Coronavirus: The Police State Perfect Storm w/ Whitney Webb
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Welcome ladies and gentlemen.
Adam Green here with no more news dot org.
Today is Monday, March 23rd, 2020, another day of pandemic pandemonium.
And joining me to talk about the latest news and some of her thoughts and investigative research on the coronavirus is the one the only writer, researcher, and soon-to-be author, formerly at Mid Press News, Miss Whitney Webb, who's now writing for Unlimited Hangout.
Thanks for uh coming on, Whitney.
Hey, thanks for having me back on.
Well, I've been following you on Twitter, and I noticed that you're not at Mid Press News anymore.
So why don't you tell us about uh you've gone independent now?
Yeah, so um I'm decided to do, you know, my own thing, sort of do a more relaxed uh schedule um and do some more like bigger investigative stuff.
Um I'm gonna be publishing at my own site that I just set up.
It's kind of rudimentary, right?
So like the design's really basic.
I hope to make it you know snazzier at some point in the future, but I'll be publishing some stuff there, but most of my stuff from now on is gonna be up at the last American Vagamo uh Vagabond.com.
Um and so you can find uh most of my work there going forward.
Cool.
Yeah, I've been on uh Ryan's show, Last American Vagabond, and he's been on a few times.
So good to see that you're uh gonna be publishing over there.
And your articles are normally picked up and republished all over the place.
Yeah, sometimes.
Sometimes all right.
Well, um, oh, and tell us about your new website as well.
Oh, I think I mentioned it a little bit.
It's just something I set up um in case I publish at some other sites too, sort of a place to have all my future work anyway, um, you know, all in one place.
Um before that, all of my work pretty much was published just at Mint Press News.
So, you know, the use and the archive of that would just be my author page at Mint Press, but all the stuff going forward, whether it's for some, you know, other sites I contribute to besides you know Ryan's page and things like that, it'll be it'll all be there.
Cool.
Yeah, you used to have uh a Whitney Webb section on uh no more news.org until I redesigned my my homepage.
But uh so I wanna you've got this new article out about uh continuity of government, and I want to get into that, but but first I want to back up.
It you did an article a while back about Operation Blackout, and I and the company c uh Cyber Reason.
You've been covering them a lot.
I did a video, it looks like two months ago, Operation Blackout Israel hacking America.
Um, why don't you tell us about uh a little bit about cyber reason and how they were pr predicting um like kind of the that the elections would get messed up and then this how that connects to this tweet.
Right.
So it wasn't just cyber reason that was predicting the elections were going to be messed up.
It was pretty much in the US too.
Every intelligence agency, DHS, the DOJ, they were putting out all these statements warning that the 2020 election was gonna, you know, be subjected to unprecedented foreign interference, and they issued this joint statement, and then a couple paragraphs down, they admit that they don't have any evidence uh for putting for making those claims,
but they're telling you, you know, in advance to get you prepared for this election season to be chaotic, and at the same time, we have a company like Cyber Reason, which is advised by you know some former CIA and like you know, intelligence spooks from the US, but is basically, you know, for all intents and purposes,
a front company for Israeli intelligence, openly doing these simulations um about how you know there's gonna be this insane chaos on election day, and beforehand that the elections are going to be canceled, that there's gonna be these huge cyber attacks, cyber attacks and hacks on critical infrastructure in the US.
Um the first simulation, well, they did several simulations last year, but the one that really got my attention and got me writing about them was one they did last November, where they basically simulated taking controls of city buses and ramming them into civilians waiting in line to vote.
Um they most recently did one in February in New Hampshire, right before the primary, where they tried to hack the sewage system and flood the streets with raw sewage so people want to go vote, um, which is pretty crazy.
And as time has gone on, they also tweeted out stuff about um coronavirus and how coronavirus could up in the 2020 election, and they were calling for more to do simulations of coronavirus in the 2020 election.
And after an hour, they deleted their article and their tweet.
I only got a screenshot of the tweet that I tweeted it out.
Um and they acted, yeah, so you just pulled it up and they're talking about um you know fake news is a problem, cyber terrorism, all this stuff, cyber reason as a company, along with Microsoft and US intelligence is basically set up a lot of countries to take the fall for this.
Not surprisingly, um Iran is like the main one that they're basically fingering in advance for all of this.
And what's also telling too is that the Department of Health and Human Services not that long ago reported being hacked by what they said was a hostile foreign actor, and they haven't um determined who that is, but I think when they say who did it, we should be very skeptical of who they're blaming because they have this narrative, as I detail in my series on cyber reason.
They've had this narrative set up, you know, so long in advance.
Cyber reason is just one of these companies that's connected to intelligence, like pushing this out.
And you know, for people that haven't read my series, the reason why I say cyber reason is a front company for Israeli intelligence.
It was all co-founded by Unit 8200 guys.
Um, the CEO, who was also one of the co-founders, uh, says that his work at Cyber Reason is a continuation, that's a quote from him, a continuation of his service to Israeli military intelligence.
So I mean, that's it was pretty much as obvious uh of an admission as you're going to get, and not only that, they also have a an intelligence working group of active Unit 8200 members that work for cyber reason and look at hacks and mailware attack malware attacks that go on in the world and assign blame for those to nation states, right?
So anytime this company is going to tell you that this you know nation state was responsible for a hack, be very skeptical.
And also, um, I should point out their CEO, this guy who says that his work there is a continuation of his uh time at Cyber Reason.
He used to lead Unit 8200's uh offensive hacking unit targeting nation states.
So this guy is a professional hacker that attacks nation states.
They they're openly simulating you know chaos in the U.S. uh, you know, um uh like uh election system and basically predict planning out ways to uh create a crisis of faith in the U.S. government, which is really happening on its own anyway.
I mean, the US government is doing that, you know, well enough on itself, but a lot of these simulations they're doing and the statements that people from Cyber Reason have been putting out about like Iowa, what happened there, and things like that.
They say, look how fragile U.S. faith and democracy is.
Look how easy it is to create chaos and you know, and making really odd statements.
Wasn't that like in Ohio, there was an election app software that was run by like a um a Zoom.
Iowa's right.
Yeah, it was Seth Klarman was the guy behind it, Seth Clarman, who owns the Times of Israel and is a funder of the most extreme settlements in the West Bank that are also have been funded by the Kushner family, including the people that wrote the King's Torah, which was a you know talking about killing uh Palestinian babies before they can threaten uh you know, Jewish Israelis, you know, just crazy stuff.
So, you know, these are the people uh, you know, that really put that stuff in in motion.
And the name of that company in Iowa was called like Shadow Inc.
or something.
I mean, what a what a ridiculous name.
I don't know, it's like almost comic book level uh craziness.
But anyway, uh one thing I want to say about cyber reasons election simulations, cyber reason officially is a cybersecurity company.
They sell, you know, like a glorified version of antivirus software that's run by AI and and all this stuff.
So what they do in their simulations, they don't involve voting machines or any other type of aspect of the electoral process where they could market their software to to make it safer.
They specifically exclude that.
So they have no financial incentive as a company to run these simulations, and these simulations involve top U.S. government officials, right?
So this is like some high-level crap, and they don't have any economic incentive.
They claim to just be Doing it out of all truism because they want to help protect American democracy.
I mean, like, yeah, right.
Um, at least that's that's my take on it.
But I think all of that is important to consider as a whole when we're talking about cyber reason and their interest in coronavirus and and the craziness there, and the fact they deleted that tweet after like an hour, I think that's uh pretty telling.
I see you shared it March 12th.
When they posted this after the coronavirus was already a thing in the news.
It was just becoming like uh, you know, the the the pandemonium, I guess, right, that has since manifested was just starting when they put that out.
And then they deleted it after an hour.
Why would you delete the article and the tweet after such a short period of time?
Why would uh like um uh uh a company that's running hacking simulations say something like this about coronavirus?
It like this is exactly what they were they were predicting and running in their simulations, like just total chaos, no faith in the media, total demoralization, no, and and so the elections ultimately get canceled, and it's looking like that might happen.
We just had tax day get pushed back.
I could see that happening.
Yeah, not long after after this article came out, there were articles in foreign policy magazine, which is you know run by the CFR saying we have to cancel the 2020 election and stuff.
So these guys were kind of ahead of the curve, I guess you could say, when it came to election day chaos and and coronavirus.
And I actually read this article they deleted.
I didn't think they delete it so quickly, otherwise I would have web archived it.
But they were talking about we need to run new simulations with government officials and promote public private partnerships between companies like cyber reason and the government to keep us safe and all this stuff.
I mean, really Orwellian when you consider the fact, too, the same intelligence apparatus to which cyber reason belongs is a history of aggressive espionage against the United States and the U.S. government.
They are not our ally.
These are people that spy on the US all the time, aggressively so.
They just had, you know, all those towers around the White House spying on the president and people that work in the executive branch.
I mean, it's just really um crazy to give these guys so much power, and they also essentially have a backdoor running on a lot of the most classified networks and US military and intelligence, you know, and on those systems.
They they uh their software's installed on computers for the NSA, the CIA, um a bunch of sensitive military equipment.
Um it's just really crazy that that this company is so you know plugged in to every to all this stuff, and they're making these these creepy predictions about how this is going to be like the last election, it's gonna be canceled, and American democracy will never recover and all this stuff.
I mean, uh just really wild.
We're putting America's security completely in the hands of a foreign country.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, what I actually argue in a lot of my pieces that are about this is that this is about building a binational security state.
Because there's a lot of people on companies, cyber reasons one of them, right?
Um, that have a lot of connections to Israeli intelligence, but also connections to the CIA and US intelligence, or you know, big tech companies in the U.S. And they're basically coming together.
So like Cyber Reason too, one of their biggest investors is Lockheed Martin.
I mean, that's a U.S. company, right?
And Lockheed was the vehicle through which they got installed in all these government computers in these important networks.
So really it's it's an effort by you know, these uh the people that are in charge of these companies and the private sector and the military industrial complexes and intelligence apparatus of both countries sort of being smushed together, right?
And and when Paul Singer um set up, you know, Startup Nation Central to get you know all these tech jobs, uh key tech jobs in the US switched over to Israel.
That was about preventing people in the US and in other countries from boycotting Israel, right?
So I mean, this is all about sort of mushing it, mushing both states together and making it impossible really uh to criticize or boycott you know, either of them.
It's funny you mentioned Paul Singer because um Clearview is a company, the facial recognition company that was founded by uh a Chabad Lubavitch Juliani aid lawyer and this like young Asian guy, and they they met at the Manhattan Institute where Paul Singer is on the board, and it was founded by uh Woolsey, right?
Who was the Oh James James Woolsey, the former CIA director, yeah.
Who's on the board of Genie Energy with all the I mean, yeah, it's such a small group when you look at it, right?
A big Chabad Lubavitch event with Lieberman, where Lieberman was on stage and said Habad is uh bigger than the CIA.
Like Avindor Lieberman or Joseph Lieberman.
Which one?
Oh, the VP and uh Congressman Lieberman.
Oh, right.
Okay.
So let me see here.
This this tweet then.
So this tweet is pretty ominous given everything you just talked about saying that he's just saying what's above the surface.
So there's a lot more that he's not telling us.
Vast changes are coming because Israel is now a power to contend with.
So that means vast changes to the world are coming.
And because of collaboration with Israel helps you prepare, in other words, secure the future of your purple uh people.
14 words must and ensure a better future for your people.
He this sounds like mafia tactics, like you better work with us and go along with us, otherwise there's no future for you in the world to come, basically.
Not just future for you, future for your people.
I mean, this is when this tweet came out, I tweeted this and I was like, what the heck is going on?
What is he saying?
Now with you know, what's going on with coronavirus?
There's a couple things I'd like to uh point out.
Not only as has Netanyahu secured his ability to stay in power basically for as long as he wants with emergency powers, there's a lot of creepy policies that they've been doing in relation to this this virus.
Let's just look at Palestine, for example.
As soon as the outbreak started to get bad, Israel stopped giving cleaning supplies to Palestinian prisoners, soap and and basic things, you know, for for hygiene purposes, and now there's an outbreak of coronavirus in Palestinian prisons, right?
Or uh prisons in Israel of Palestinian prisoners, a lot of whom are just in prison without any charges as part of administrative detention.
Now there's an outbreak in Gaza, and uh how are, you know, Gaza's under siege basically and under a blockade.
How are they going to get um you know all the supplies they need to treat that?
There's millions of people that live there, their hospitals are already hugely understaffed, and Israel closely controls who comes in and who leaves.
So how did coronavirus even get into Gaza since they've had the borders essentially closed over the past few months?
I mean, I just think um there's some shady stuff going on there, especially when we consider too that Israel, not long after all this um revealed itself with coronavirus, right?
There was this government funded institute called Megal that uh announced that they already basically have a vaccine, and they claimed in the article that it was quote unquote pure luck that they have it um you know almost ready to go when vaccine development generally takes like a year to a year and a half to do.
Um so pretty pretty crazy that they um you know already have it essentially ready to go, as they're claiming.
I mean, we'll see if that's really true or not.
But this whole thing about securing the existence of uh of your people.
They'll they'll clip you if you say that all outright.
Oh, really?
Okay, yeah.
Well, I don't have a YouTube channel, so I don't normally worry about the colour.
Well, look at what they're doing with Iran.
They're saying like, you know, they're not gonna lift any of the sanctions or the blockades, you know.
Yeah, well, I was gonna get there.
One thing that's really odd when you're looking about how coronavirus has manifested in different countries in Iran, right away.
Who got hit first?
The political leadership of Iran, a bunch of top politicians, top advisors to the Ayatollahs, Ayatollahs themselves were the were among the first people to really get hit and die from this virus.
I think that's really significant because we haven't seen major political leaders die in any other country but Iran.
And at the same time, way all of this stuff is going on.
We've had the US, whose foreign policy with respect to Iran is dominated by neocons and the Israel lobby, uh, put up put further sanctions on Iran, basically.
And then we had Mossad not that long ago saying, hey, we acquired on this complex mission in a country with which we don't have diplomatic relations, all of these coronavirus tests.
Well, you know, people were saying, oh, that that must mean the Gulf countries and all that stuff, but why would you need to r use Mossad and send them on what they called a complex mission to get you know to get supplies from a country like Saudi Arabia or the UAE, where they already have diplomatic back channels.
You know what I mean?
And they already do diplomacy and economic deals privately, even though they they don't have quote unquote public ties, you know.
So to me, that says maybe they took some of those tests from Iran.
And that wasn't widely covered at all.
It just like, you know, like let like you just pulled up, it got covered in Bloomberg and maybe some a couple Israeli outlets, and really not much attention was paid to why why is Mossad so interested in virus tests?
I'm not saying that I think, you know, uh, you know, Israel is behind this.
I certainly don't think there's evidence for that at this point, but I think they are definitely Israel's leadership.
Obviously, Netanyahu is milking this crisis for all it's worth, and I would say that a lot of other governments in the world are doing the same.
Uh something, an interesting pattern that I've noticed personally is that a lot of the first countries to go on lockdown for coronavirus were countries that all had major protest movements that now, because of you know, mandatory national quarantine, those protest movements have basically disappeared.
Uh, an example, France uh was put on Blacktown really early on.
Uh the yellow vests, uh, you know, they now can't be on the streets because of coronavirus.
Spain was next.
Um, Spain had the all the Catalonia protests in Barcelona.
Chile, where I live, uh followed not that long afterwards.
Uh Chile has been having major anti-government protests since last October.
Um, so I think that's an interesting coincidence when you think about it.
And Israel has also done, you know, this lockdown and mandated a lot of these uh very Orwellian policies like surveillance, mass surveillance, tracking um of civilians in the name of coronavirus, giving Israel's government a bunch of um a bunch of new powers.
And just the other day, the Knesset, you know, Israel's Congress basically were debating whether or not to suspend all individual liberties for all citizens of Israel, not just you know, Palestinians who basically don't have any rights respected by you know the Israeli state anyway, but even for Jewish Israelis, I mean, that's really unprecedented.
Um, and what was interesting is that in Israel, it was all these tools that were surveillance tools that were developed for counterterrorism purposes, now they're going to be used to fight the virus, right?
And I think we're seeing a lot of that being pushed in the U.S. as well.
All the stuff that was previously for nine uh post-9-11, the war on terror, is now being justified.
It's expansion and continuation is being justified as, oh, we have to fight the virus now, the virus is the new enemy.
We've moved from the invisible enemy of you know that terrorist thousands of miles away to now the invisible coronavirus, and we have to give up all our freedoms, basically.
I was just gonna make that exact point.
It's like just like Al Qaeda and the terrorists were kind of like an invisible enemy that was just like pushed everywhere in the media.
Now now they're doing the same thing here, and it's like I was looking for the article, but Trump uh declared war.
Declared war on uh they're calling it war, basically.
And I saw a tweet from Lindsay Graham about like bomb them, something like he's talking about bombing.
It was I'll I'll look it up.
It was in the It was like starve it.
Yeah, I saw the Lindsey Graham tweet.
It said, starve it, bomb it, and kill it was his coronavirus strategy.
I was like, what?
Uh that is a crazy way to frame fighting again, you know, the stuff against a virus.
But honestly, across the board right now in the US and in a lot of other countries, they are framing a lot of their rhetoric about how to combat the coronavirus in a very militaristic way that I think should really be concerning.
They make a lot of allusions to World War II and wartime preparations and this is war, coronavirus is an invisible enemy, be very careful when the government starts to do that.
That means they're going to ask for wartime powers.
Um, you know, uh, it's just the militarization of this response to the pandemic.
I think people should be very careful of what they are asking for.
A lot of people, I had people, I I did this thread yesterday because I had a bunch of people in my mentions basically saying, hey, you know what?
A military takeover of the US sounds totally awesome right now because Trump isn't competent, blah, blah, blah, or you know, and people aren't staying in quarantine.
I mean, be very careful what you're asking for because every time, you know, even if you just look at 9-11, all the civil liberties that you know got taken away then uh out of under the guise of fighting terrorism, we never got back.
We never got them back, And uh terrorism exploded and got way worse.
And uh now the US is basically allied with Al Qaeda in Syria and Yemen, uh, but we gave up all our civil liberties to fight them, right?
So anytime the government comes asking for major civil liberties uh to be taken away from the people in order to quote unquote keep us safe.
I mean, you need to be skeptical, pay attention to the historical precedent.
Now the Department of Justice, led by William Barr, who is like uh a corrupt piece of shit, basically.
I can't really think of any other way to phrase it right now.
Um he's asking for powers to indefinitely indefinitely detain Americans and pause court proceedings.
And basically, last year I reported that Bill Barr uh was had created a pre-crime program that they were going to put into effect this year, so they can arrest you and even have to plan or or plan to commit a crime or commit a crime.
They just have to think you are quote unquote mobilizing towards violence uh in order to arrest you.
That is that that's already been implemented in at least one state in Nevada.
Uh they they've had that go live already.
And now he's asking for power to indefinitely detain Americans on top of that.
Um and in his request for new powers, one of the things he said in there was uh to pause, you know, normal uh just like legal proceedings for um all processes, um, all of the legal processes involved in an arrest and prosecution, and he uses the term pre-arrest, so even before they arrest you.
And this guy, politico, was you know, the first to really report on this request by the Department of Justice.
And the person they cited, who's like this head of uh like a criminal uh defense lawyer network or something, he was like, Oh, yeah, that means they can basically just uh take you in your house and put you in prison for as long as they want until they decide the quote unquote state of emergency ends.
And Trump already declared a state of emergency over coronavirus, right?
So as soon as the Department of Justice gets those powers, if they do, um, we could really be looking at a very unprecedented uh, you know, case in the US for sure.
Um, and uh I think people should be very wary about giving all of that power to the state, to the yeah, I mean, the the US government is so ridiculously corrupt, and William Barr is insanely corrupt.
And so to like to give him all of this power is just like it's nuts.
I mean, if you think these people want to protect you from a pandemic illness and keep you healthy and stuff, I mean, uh I don't know.
Uh turn back on Fox News, I guess you shouldn't be watching this channel if you think that's that's what the government wants for you.
You know, uh QAnon people are actually promoting the idea of martial law because they they think it's a cover for Trump to go after the deep state and round up the deep state.
Yeah, right.
Okay, so uh yeah, I've seen that too.
I think that's uh a bunch of bull crap.
Um there's a lot of reasons why, mainly because if you look at Trump, right, yeah, so he's the president, but who uh is his administration stuffed with?
They're stuffed with neocons, right?
Neocons have been planning for an emergency situation like this since the 1980s in the Reagan administration, which was when a lot of these, you know, well-known neocons first rose to like major positions of power.
And that's when they developed um continuity of government plans that involve uh, you know, uh suspending the constitution and definitely uh imposing a uh like a new type of government where there's no legislative branch at all, and and you know, going through a lot of these really uh,
you know, just plans that are are just so insane and and really dangerous, and basically use this database called Maine Corps that I talk about in my latest article that has a list of any American that even for the most trivial of reasons can be deemed unfriendly by the US government, you know, uh it detain people like that indefinitely, which Barr is already asking to do.
Um those people that came up with those plans in the 1980s, which even Kiwan people would call quote unquote deep state, those same factions and a lot of those same people are in power in the Trump administration right now.
Like Bill Barr.
You know, one of the people most involved in in the continuity of government planning in the 1980s was Bill Casey of the CIA.
Bill Barr uh during the Iran Contra scandal worked as a uh as a liaison for Bill Casey prior to that.
He worked for the CIA covering up um investigations of the CIA during the church committee.
He did the Iran Contra cover up when he was attorney general the first time under George H. W. Bush, who is like ridiculous ridiculously corrupt, also involved in continuity of government planning under Reagan when he when Bush was vice president.
I mean, how how how is putting uh Bill Barr in charge of you know, who gets detained and who doesn't, fighting the deep state?
He is the deep state.
You know what I mean?
So, like people that are are thinking that they are living in in this this bubble of fantasy where they're basically thinking that this government right now is going to be the good guys and they're going to arrest everyone bad.
I mean, that is just some comic book shit.
That is not how the real world works at all.
It it I I mean, I just I I almost don't even know what to say to those people.
I don't even know if they're even worth reaching at this point.
I think they are worth reaching because I used to uh I don't normally talk about these QAnon people, but I'm noticing they're getting so many views and and and having influence right now, especially in the response to this coronavirus.
And I I think it's just so incredibly dangerous what they're doing.
They they try to frame it.
You know what I think's really telling there though, is that the fact that those videos are not getting censored to hell by the crazy algorithms they're putting in now and all the extreme censorship measures tells you that the quote unquote deep state or whatever in charge of that censorship likes the message they're putting out and wants that to spread around.
Why all the other channels that are saying stuff and questioning the government's motives are being censored to an extent we've never seen before, and we're probably gonna see in a couple of weeks, maybe even sooner, uh extreme deplatforming to Twitter and Facebook and YouTube.
Um all of those companies, well, in YouTube's case, Google, right, met with intelligence agencies last year and talked about how they were going to protect public discourse ahead of the 2020 election and and combat disinformation, and they did they came out and said the same thing about combating disinformation about coronavirus.
So I mean, if you think um, I mean, if they're gonna deplatform people like me for that, but they're not gonna deplatform the QAnon people, I mean, then I think that tells you a lot.
They want that message out there.
They want people begging for martial law for whatever reason, whether they think it's gonna keep them safe from coronavirus, or it's gonna mean all the deep state pedophiles get arrested.
I don't know.
I mean, Bill Barr didn't do anything with the Epstein investigation.
Galeen Maxwell is hiding somewhere, probably in Israel, and they haven't done shit.
Uh, and that investigation, the FBI's investigation is a total farce.
It's totally just like non-existent, basically.
So I mean, if you think that guy is gonna round up the all the baddies for you and like, you know, be like a comic book superhero and and put all the bad guys in jail.
I mean, I mean, really?
I I don't I don't know.
I don't I don't even know what to say.
Quote conspiracy theories always used to be that the government was conspiring to do something bad.
This is a conspiracy that the government is secretly good and everything's 3D chess, and they're going after this this supposed deep state, which these QAnon people just basically frame it as the Democrats are the deep state.
And like, you know, a faction of the the right wing and that Trump and the Patriots are the ones Trump is just you know, it's so swampy and so tied in with like these these mafias that it's just it's ridiculous.
It's fan fiction.
I want to shift gears to uh some of the rights that they are definitely gonna try to capitalize.
You know, it's never let a crisis go to waste, whether it's a genuine crisis or manufactured.
Let's talk about some of the stuff that they're talking about doing and that you think they're gonna rights they're gonna take away or new new uh you know Orwellian policies that they're gonna enact.
Oh man, where do I start with the rights they're taking away?
Well, I already talked about indefinite detention.
I mean, that right away, that's you know, you lose the right to a free trial.
I mean, right there, I mean, habeas corpus out the window.
It already kind of was after 9-11 a little bit, but now I mean they're just opening the doors to it to like just be a memory for everyone, um, which I think is really dangerous.
The other thing too, the censorship on social media um is gonna be an attack on free speech for sure.
They're also, you know, surveilling people, they want to expand surveillance programs, all of that surveillance stuff and everything you say on social media, that that is all plugged into this pre-crime dragnet that Bill Barr and and these um, you know, you Uh Israeli and US intelligence leak tech companies have been setting up.
I talk about that in this article that I did last year.
I highly recommend people revisit it.
It's called uh how the CIA Mossad and the Epstein Network are exploiting uh mass shootings to create an Orwellian nightmare.
I think that's the full title.
Um basically in there I lay out a lot of what they're trying to push out now, which is you know, uh mass surveillance, and it to and not just mass surveillance to see what you're saying now, but to be able to predict your future behavior.
Let's remember too, last year the FBI came out and said conspiracy theorists or domestic terror threat, basically saying that anyone that doesn't believe government narratives, whether those are about past events or current events, um, it can be cons uh determined to be you know a threat to the public order.
And a lot of what Bill Barr is saying now about individuals mobilizing towards violence.
I mean, you that's so vague that it could on honestly be used uh against anyone who who expresses discontent or displeasure with the government or a specific policy.
That's kind of how it is in China right now.
Right.
Well, China, China is the model for where the U.S. is going.
I mean, I think honestly, what we're seeing too with coronavirus, we're seeing a lot of this nation-state against nation-state.
But let's remember that the real levers of power exist above the nation-state level.
I mean, there's a global oligarchy.
Um, that's why you see China and the U.S. partnering with people like Bill Gates, you know, and things like that to quote unquote solve the corona, the coronavirus pandemic.
Um, China's social credit score uh system and mass surveillance system.
I mean, all of that they are trying to make globally with the complicity of the U.S. government and all these other governments that are trying to do this.
I mean, this is what they want.
These all these governments, communist, fascists, whatever you want to call them, it's all about authoritarianism.
It's all about creating authoritarian societies that are technocracies, essentially, um, and and just eviscerating liberty um in all of its forms, basically, and and it's it's really dangerous.
Um, you know, a lot of this about China and the US having this war on words type of thing.
At the end of the day, what both of those governments want is what they're trying to push through now with coronavirus as the excuse, which is mass surveillance, tracking people, tracking what you say, limiting free speech, limiting freedom of movement, limiting pretty much every freedom uh you can think of.
So they can hold on to power.
I mean, continuity of government, right, uh was just recently resurfaced as a term.
Um, you know, I was talking about the plans for that, uh, for martial law and all that that were developed back by the neocons that are still in power today, uh, right.
But all of continuity of government isn't about continuity of the constitution.
It's about continuity of the government, uh i.e.
keeping the powers that be in power and keeping the system as it is in place, right?
So those the fact they're talking in the mainstream now about those type of plans going live.
I mean, be very be very careful um about supporting, you know, what what comes out of that, you know, because uh the US is on a path right now with the emergency powers it's seeking, where there really isn't going to be much difference between quote unquote authoritarian China and quote unquote authoritarian USA.
You know, I mean, one calls itself communist and one calls itself capitalist, okay, whatever.
Um, but honestly, there's been so much, so many moves just in the past couple weeks in the US about public-private partnerships to fight coronavirus, where a bunch of corporations are basically fusing with the state in a lot of ways.
Uh big tech companies already kind of do that, allowing the government to determine and uh you know who they censor and who they don't, or foreign governments in the case of the ADL's involvement um in censorship and stuff like that.
The ADL was asking for a bailout for charities on Twitter yesterday.
So I so I assume including themselves.
Yeah, they're they're shekel grabbing out of this crisis as well.
Oh my god, oh my God.
Yeah, I mean, they're ridiculous.
Um they they have so much money.
I mean, they were funded by people like the Braunfmans and the lauders and like the richest, some of the richest people in the world throwing money at them for decades, and and now they they want some of the bailout money.
Okay, green blood makes more than half a million a year.
Yeah, I think I think I've if I remember correctly, they make they bring bring in like a hundred million in donations a year or something like that.
So um you mentioned, I think the first thing you mentioned with the rights being taken away is increased censorship online.
They are very, I'm seeing it everywhere about how they're trying to counter the misinformation.
So that'll be definitely implemented.
And also they've announced that they're doing more censorship, that they're having to rely more on the uh algorithms, the ADL and trust project, like you wrote about created algorithms.
Yeah, it's all about moving moving all this all this stuff to artificial intelligence, so it's not just people in charge of it.
Um and and basically automating this whole like control grid, whatever you want to call it, they're setting up, whether that's you know, the social media angle or this new law enforcement angle of it that Bill Barr's been involved in setting up with pre-crime or companies like Palantir, Peter Thiel's Palantir, which is involved with intelligence and a bunch in DHS and a bunch of other agencies, you know, it it's all artificial intelligence based, not really to have people regular human operators making decisions.
It's about writing the algorithm and giving it all over to the machine.
And uh Israel is really, you know, has through this, you know, um patronage of people like Paul Singer and all this money that's been thrown at their cyber security and cyber startups and and all this stuff have really um you know done a bunch of AI stuff and really dominate that field in a lot of ways.
So I mean, a lot of those AI algorithms are being written in Israel by people with ties to Israeli intelligence or Israeli military intelligence.
Um so I think that is really significant and definitely concerning.
Also, an interesting thing.
Um when I was writing about a lot about you know, um their the Israeli startup scene uh in their connections to intelligence and the military and all of that, there was one field that didn't really make a lot of sense about why they were so invested uh in startups in the healthcare field,
uh, but now it's starting to make more sense because a lot of those uh companies that have really benefited from coronavirus, like telemedicine or uh remote uh hospital visits and all this stuff, a lot of those are Israeli startups that now are making a killing and their stock prices have just exploded as coronavirus has gone on.
Um so I think that's pretty pretty wild.
Yeah, I remember noticing that too.
Like it's it uh the all the tech companies that uh the Israelis and the startups were focused on, a lot of them were health care, and then now we're seeing this big uh health crisis coming about.
And I remember uh just came to my mind Ivanka Kushner was talking about uh healthcare, and she wants some huge database to track everybody's uh health systems.
Um Kushner is involved with the healthcare industry as well with this company with his brother that uh is I believe involved with the website and the testing, the testing case as well as is outlined in this article.
And right, it it was co-founded by his brother, but Jared Kushner was apparently like uh on on the books, down as like uh having a key leadership role in that company, and his name disappeared not that long before the recent crisis, um, from what I understand.
So how how convenient for him, right?
Um but with Ivanka Trump calling for that type of database, let's remember too that not that long ago, she was calling and lobbying her dad, the president, for the creation of this new agency called HARPA, which was going to be about analyzing people, uh analyzing um their medical histories and their comments made online on social media and things like that for mental health purposes to try and identify people that might be violent and might conduct mass shootings, right?
Which at the same time that Bill Barr was creating this you know pre-crime program for the same purpose, but now it's not about mass shootings anymore.
Um it's about you know people that could be potentially spreading the virus.
There was this article that came out not that long ago where the FBI is saying that now you have to worry about neo-Nazis licking coronavirus on your doorknobs and and stuff like this.
Um, you know what I mean?
So they're like setting up a really I mean, honestly, if you take the time to objectively think about this and you like don't think about this from the perspective of like the national panic, you know, we're in saying that neo-Nazi groups are going around licking doorknobs to give people coronavirus.
I mean, just sounds absurd, right?
But you know, and you know what else?
I saw somebody retweeting that, and then they they got it, they did it like an advanced search on Twitter, and there's all these people joking around joking about going and coughing on white people and stuff.
So it and it shows that the feds are in Telegram, like you know, po probably posting stuff, trying to provoke people, you know, which we know it's not even a question that they do that.
They just try to find their Pazis.
So the FBI and uh almost every terrorism arrest they have made uh since 9-11 has been has involved FBI informants uh grooming and goading on the people they eventually arrest to do stuff, right?
Uh it happens a lot in American Muslim communities.
It happens also um, you know, with young white men, um that the in neo-Nazi groups are so infiltrated by the federal government and the FBI and the CIA.
I mean, it's just um uh it's really comical, I think, to think that you know they're planning have all these plans in secret that the that the feds don't know about.
I mean, those groups are just so it's so documented how infiltrated they are that I think that threat is really overblown.
But then you have like, you know, the Southern Poverty Law Center um stoking fear about that all the time.
But if you actually look at their numbers, I mean it's a very small amount of individuals that they end up talking about.
If you actually look at it uh on the scale of like, you know, uh the nation.
For an example, the pictures they always use is always from Charlottesville 2017.
It's not like there's like this is just prevalent everywhere, and they've got all this institutional power.
It's just and if if anybody were to say the same same accusations about uh Israelis or or Jewish people, you know, the ADL would come after you hard.
But I mean, this is all about divide and conquer, right?
So it's like, okay, after 9-11, we all have to be scared of Muslims and then um you know create this division between Muslim Americans and the rest of Americans.
And now it's oh the new boogeyman are uh young white men, so we have to create division between you know uh people that are white and everyone else, you know, just to keep everyone divided and angry at each other and ignoring the people on top that are doing all this crazy stuff and and creating you know these taking away freedoms of everyone on both sides of the divide and and ushering in a very Orwellian future.
Not a lot of people sadly on Twitter basically just like begging for.
I hope that's not common uh in the US on a massive scale, as I've seen it on Twitter lately, um, of people just begging for the government to come and and save them and uh and all this stuff, just really um really depressing to see so many people assuming that having the military on the streets is gonna make all of this go away.
Um I know.
I mean, it it the virus is is not going anywhere, so I guess it's all about flattening the curve, as they say is what they're trying to do.
Kushner is running this uh shadow task force, and very likely another another movement is gonna be the mandatory vaccine uh movement is really gonna get a big push after this uh medical.
Absolutely.
Okay, and then there's the phone tracking that Bill Gates has been calling for in the past and and recently.
Look, here's Israeli spyware firm wants to travel.
It's an SO group.
That's my firm in that article is NSO group, the people that sell the Pegasus software that's been used by governments around the world like Saudi Arabia to spy on and then later kidnap and murder people.
And we're supposed to trust them with our data now.
I mean, it's just laughable that it in that article they claim, oh well, this is the software we're we're promoting for coronavirus, is different because it's for a civilian purpose.
I mean, uh if you really want to trust all these like unit 8200 and Israeli uh uh intelligence like front companies and cutouts with all your data and give them all this power.
I mean, it's just um I don't know.
If you if you think that's safe, you are really naive.
That's all I have to say, and you don't know the history and you're anti-Semitic if you have a problem with this, Whitney.
It's anti-Semitic to not want Israel to track you uh by your phone.
I saw I don't want any government to track me.
I don't want the Chinese government to track me either.
Does that make me anti-Chinese?
I mean, like, come on.
Uh it it's ridiculous uh to make that accusation against people that are raising the alarm about how our civil liberties are disappearing because it's a time of national confusion and panic Right now.
I saw a documentary about China, and the this Chinese girl opens up her phone and there's an app where everybody that's sick you can see around them.
So they're doing this phone tracking thing over there, just like they have the facial recognition stuff everywhere over there, which they're gonna try to bring here too.
They also have cameras set up and stuff that you walk through where they can measure your temperature too.
And then if you have a high temperature in China, they take you and quarantine you and put you away.
And every few hundred feet, there's somebody measuring your your temperature as well.
It's this is the perfect excuse for them to implement like every fantasy they've ever had for a police state.
Well, I'm gonna have an article coming out in a couple of days.
I was planning to have it out early this week, but it's really big, so it might take me some time to put together.
But basically, um the neocons have been planning for a pandemic like this for a long time, and they've been doing simulations really um for over two decades now about pandemics and what would likely happen.
And a lot of what they predicted is coming true.
One of these simulations people may know for people that investigated you know 9-11 and the anthrax attacks, it's called Dark Winter.
It involved people like we mentioned earlier, like James Woolsey, uh, the former CIA director, um, who was uh apparently, like you said, you said that he is really into Chabad Lewibitch, apparently.
Um, but he also you know used to be head of the CIA, was involved in these creepy suspending the constitution martial law plans.
Um that was about uh that happened about three months or so, maybe a little more, uh, before 9-11 and before the anthrax attacks, and basically predicted the anthrax attacks and set up a narrative of oh, Saddam Hussein is gonna be guilty um of releasing anthrax and and all this stuff.
And one of the things that came out in that simulation in terms of the government response is that they were going to indefinitely detain people that the government suspected of having uh you know the the virus in question in that simulation and that their civil liberties were going to be violated.
And that was back in 2001.
And since 2001, there have been simulation after simulation.
The most recent ones happened last year.
There were four simulations that the US government did on pandemic influenza.
Remember, coronavirus is a type of influenza, technically, right?
So they were doing multiple simulations last year, and one the guy that led that simulation was present at the dark winter simulation before the anthrax attacks that predicted them in 2001.
So I think that's really freaking convenient.
And the fact that these pandemics all together have this stuff um, you know, like, oh, civil liberties are going to be violated and there's going to be misinformation on the internet.
We have to censor the internet.
That was in the 2001 exercise.
That was in the exercise last year.
I mean, this is all very convenient.
And let's remember too that these simulations, we're talking about uh earlier cyber reason simulations about the election being super chaotic and being canceled.
Then you have, you know, what a year before 9-11, they simulated planes being flown into the and into the Pentagon.
And then they said, Oh, who could have ever predicted that?
Who could have ever imagined?
The failure, the failure of imagination excuse, even though they simulated it a year before, and actually, cyber reason in in the news coverage of their simulations, they say that same excuse.
We want to avoid the failure of imagination that that didn't prevent 9-11, right?
You know, they simulated it a year before, and here they are simulating the same stuff, and these are all tied into spooks in the US and Israel.
I mean, wake up, people, the enemies are the military and intelligence operatives that are in the in real control of the country.
And then we have a real deep state.
Look at this.
Trump, I I don't have Washington Post, but it's who could be who could have predicted Trump would be such oh, that's not what it is.
Sorry.
Trump said something about who could predict, but I don't even have it on the screen.
But speaking of anthrax, Alex Azar, who is involved, appointed by Trump here in 2017, Department of Health and Human Services, he was also George W. Bush's HHS secretary, Tommy Thompson said Azar played an important role in responding to the 2001 anthrax attacks.
And we all know about how fishy, you know, it stinks to high heaven those anthrax attacks.
That The anthrax attacks, a lot of those uh letters went to congressmen that oppose the Patriot Act and they get anthrax letters, and allegedly they claim for a long time that oh, that anthrax came from Saddam Hussein and later it's revealed it came from the U.S. Oh, weird.
And the guy they accused of um you know being behind it all um got suicided and the case just went away, right?
So yeah, those same people that planned that crap in 2001 and simulated it and then responded to it and then were involved in the FBI investigation last year, did four simulations about pandemic influenza uh coming to the US and creating this huge crisis, and there were gonna be all these failures of lack of medical equipment and all this stuff.
That was in the simulations last year, and that's what's happening now.
The shit was planned.
And at the same time, they were simulating that stuff.
Bill Barr was creating his pre-crime system.
They um, you know, all the stuff about um that's being put live now, definite detention, um, you know, uh the mass surveillance, expanding that, um, predictive policing, uh, all the stuff we've been talking about, that was all being put, you know, put in place last year why they were simulating this crap, right?
Yeah.
And these are the same people, like I said, that were doing these simulations with the anthrax stuff, James Woolsley, the CIA, you know, these are the same people also that were involved in this suspension of the constitution, martial law, uh continuity of government programs that involves the mass indefinite detention of Americans they think are unfriendly or will resist a government like a takeover like that.
Just like just like the tech companies, Converse and Amdocs that were could all surrounding 9-11 are also being put into you know, given responsibilities to protect America as as well.
So it's amazing.
And uh now they they got us all basically on house arrest, so there's no protesting in the streets, you know, against the martial law or the mandatory.
No protests or anything and they know you're at home.
There's no protests, and they know exactly where you are, and and as often as you're on your smartphone or on your computer, I mean, they know what you're saying and what you're thinking and what you're doing.
I mean, that that's their plan anyway, you know.
They're trying to keep people isolated.
Um, and also having people stuck in their house, I mean, that has a that has an effect on people.
Cabin fever, whatever you want to call it.
If you're stuck in a small area and you can't move around and have normal freedom of movement, I mean, that has a major impact on our on our capacity to think critically and just function as normal people, you know.
And at the same time, a lot of these social media companies, Facebook's a good example, have practiced manipulating news feed algorithms to try and manipulate people's emotions and make them more depressed.
Right?
I mean, that's just like on the books, right?
I mean, that's documented.
Facebook tried to do that.
Um has done studies on that.
And all this stress and anxiety and fear is gonna make more people sick, and staying indoors and not getting vitamin D is gonna make them sick as well.
It's uh something else I wanted to mention that we're noticing is these huge bailouts, too.
And now they're talking about like you know, socialism give everybody $2,000 a month through the throughout the whole crisis, is what I saw Bernie say yesterday.
Totally.
This whole economic thing is about restructuring the economic system so the state is the main force in people's lives, and the state will determine who is an essential worker, who can work, who can't work, who gets a check, who doesn't get a check.
Who who gets to leave their house, who doesn't get to leave their house?
Who gets to be online and use PayPal and all this kind of stuff?
That the China documentary, they were like, yeah, if you get in trouble, you're not allowed on Instagram, you're not allowed on it on the internet, and then like everything you pay through everything, your whole life is connected through social media like Black Mirror, and you know, they're we're heading there real quick, and it seems like this crisis is they're gonna really move the move the ball down the field a lot.
And and let's remember that the the last time there were bailouts in 2008, there were massive protests, Occupy Wall Street.
But if everyone's stuck in their house, uh, where's Occupy Wall Street 2.0?
It's not gonna happen because they're keeping they're you know, in a lot of you know, places now they have the National Guard to make sure people aren't congregating and aren't you know on the streets and things like that.
So I am really concerned that long after the threat of the virus fades and the and and worry and concern about the pandemic goes away, a lot of these systems are gonna stay in place because once you give the state more power, it's very hard to get that power back for them to relinquish that power, right?
And we've seen that after 9-11.
I mean, just look at historical precedent.
The more uh power, wartime powers, you know, uh extra constitutional powers that they take, they do not give back in the U.S. I mean, that is just what has happened with history.
Um, you should assume that will be the case this time because to think that, oh, Trump is so great and so powerful that he's gonna arrest all the baddies for us.
I mean, that is just basically assuming, you know, just looking at the world like I said earlier in a very cartoonish um type of way and not being realistic.
And also it it's giving up your individual responsibility to one guy, one leader in the U.S. and assuming that one guy is just gonna be able to change this corrupt system that's been in place for like decades and decades and decades.
Yeah.
I think that's really naive.
Yeah, that they literally like worship Trump like a hero savior figure.
And uh, I don't think that's gonna get you uh anywhere.
Another thing I want to touch on before we wrap it up here, I know you gotta go, is the people, the advocates for a cashless society and and one world currency.
This is the perfect crisis for them to achieve that.
They're saying banknotes spread coronavirus.
Right.
So we can definitely see that.
That is definitely another agenda that is being pushed through, and they are also trying to make the solution to that cryptocurrency, government-controlled cryptocurrencies, which we've seen them been trying to build up the past couple of years, and Facebook, for example, making their own crypto coin and and all of the stuff.
I mean, that is that's where where we're headed um if these people get what they want.
I mean, what they're basically doing is a controlled demolition of the economy, um, and they're gonna be able to pick up the pieces and rebuild that system however they want if you know people don't resist, basically.
Did you see this story too?
This is out of Forbes coronavirus fight back.
Even Israel's top secret unit 81 has just broken cover for COVID-19.
So look, they're even they're revealing their secret uh military groups.
Look at these soldiers here.
They they look like scary uh just kidding.
Uh they're they're saving the day, just like um they're gonna come out with the vaccine first, is what we keep seeing.
And now they're sending masks and they're sending medicine all over the place.
Uh, you know, in case well, let's talk about the vaccines for a second.
Um, I don't know exactly what mechanism Israel's is supposed to use, but there's also some companies in the U.S. that are developing a vaccine, and they are all strategic partners of DARPA.
Every single one of the US companies making a coronavirus vaccine is a strategic partner of DARPA, that is the Pentagon's super Orwellian and creepy research arm that is basically trying to hook up the human brain to artificial intelligence.
If you think that sounds nuts, please Google that um and look up human uh machine, human brain machine interface DARPA.
Um, you'll see what I'm talking about.
So these are the people behind um the the Moderna's uh RNA vaccine for coronavirus and Enovio's DNA vaccine.
There was a report that came out yesterday.
I did a report on that in January.
There was a report, mainstream report that came out, I think just a few days ago saying, yes, actually, DARPA is behind all of the technology that both of those companies use, and they are the reason that we have these vaccines so close to being uh so close to being deployed.
The RNA vaccine that Moderna developed is skipping animal trials, it's going straight to human trials, it's already started.
It could be available in a matter of weeks.
What people need to know is that RNA vaccines and DNA vaccines, that's foreign genetic material being inserted into your body and into your cells.
That type of that class of vaccine has never been approved for human use ever in the history of vaccines.
Other vaccines they're streamlining it right now.
Right.
So like traditional vaccines, you know, they have like uh a deactivated portion of the virus to create like an antibody response or whatever.
So what this does instead is that it puts genetic material that's supposed to code pieces of the virus into your body, and you basically become uh what DARPA calls a bioreactor, you know, for all these proteins and stuff like that.
Um, and it's never been approved for human use before.
They tried to make an RNA vaccine for the Zika virus.
I think they also tried to make one for Ebola, um, but they couldn't get them approved, and now they are going to ram this through.
No one has any idea about the long-term health effects or even the short-term health effects, and they're not doing animal trials.
Uh, I mean, uh it just really dangerous.
In in the this the big swine flu epidemic that happened, I think it was in the late 70s.
Yeah.
That didn't they rush out a vaccine and a bunch of people got really sick.
And a bunch of people died.
Yeah.
Yeah.
More people died from the vaccine than died from the actual virus because there was another, you know, a pandemic scare.
Um it was also an election year.
And uh it was Gerald Ford uh running for re-election, and he pushed this through.
And some people say it's one of the reasons that Carter ended up beating him is because of how you know how poor uh, you know, how how horrific that situation quickly became for people.
Um just really concerning.
Um I mean it it's really dangerous to assume that this is safe.
I mean, they've already suspended, like I said, they suspended animal trials, they've suspended normal protocols for this to try and ram it through.
Um, but even the company that's making the vaccine, Moderna, they've said we have no idea if it'll be effective or not.
Gee, we sure hope it works.
You know.
Um, it's just it's crazy.
And one thing that that huge like 8 billion coronavirus relief bill gave a ton of millions and millions of dollars to that same company to push through this vaccine.
I mean, those guys are gonna make a killing, but who knows?
Uh I mean, it seems really unlikely that that vaccine is is gonna be effective because their past ones were not and couldn't even get approved for human use, you know.
But it's gonna be pushed through just to make people stop panicking and make them safer, make them feel safer.
Sorry.
Well, there's certainly a lot to be concerned about about uh with all of this going down.
So um I'm I know you gotta get going, Whitney.
Thank you for uh joining me to discuss this stuff.
Uh I look forward to your your future reports.
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It could really come at any time considering the current climate we're in.
So please uh you know, take some time to do it now.
I've noticed the shadow banning is is getting really awful on Twitter right now, also.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it'll been going on for a while.
All these programs, all these censorship programs have been going on for a couple years, but they are just taking it to the next level now, and they're gonna keep taking it to the next level.
So don't get complacent, you know.
That's uh that's all I want people to.
That's what QAnon is too.
It's trust the plan, don't do anything, it's all gonna be okay.
Or everybody that's just so focused on, oh, all of this is is uh is a hoax, it's a hoax.
There's no virus, it's it's 5G, you know, all the time.
Yeah, so I mean, whatever it is.
Anyone that's telling you not to trust your own critical judgment and uh telling you to question everything and use your own discernment and look at the facts and make your own opinion.
People that are telling you no, trust authority, ignore your feelings, ignore your thoughts, and trust the plan.
I mean, that to me just screams psyop.
Trust the person psyop to me.
And it makes me wonder if the Q PSYOP was this is its purpose.
Is this coronavirus happening right now?
Well, whether it was coronavirus or something else, I think you know, the it ha it's not just right now that the QAnon uh uh universe has been pushing and promoting martial law as a solution, uh, you know, where Trump can round up all the baddies.
I mean, that has been going on for a while from what I understand.
So I think it was more about getting people who would normally normally identify as patriots and resist a type of martial law takeover to actually end up cheering it.
I think that was one of its main purposes, and that's what we're seeing right now.
Absolutely.
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Whitney, thanks for coming on.
Uh, I hope to talk To you again soon, and uh hopefully hopefully we'll be able to uh in a few months or a few weeks just look back on all of this as uh you know and and laugh, but uh we'll see.
Time will tell.
Yeah, I hope so.
We'll see.
Alright.
Well, thanks, Whitney.
I'm gonna wrap it up.
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