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March 17, 2020 - Know More News - Adam Green
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DEBATE: Know More News vs. Infowars' Harrison Smith
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What will we do?
Can you pretend to be Adam?
Uh yes.
There we go.
There we go.
All right.
Now can we see him?
Because I had it off screen.
Um is your is your camera working?
His camera's up.
Okay.
All right.
So both of you been on the program before.
Uh, but just for formality's sake, you know, podcast, maybe somebody didn't see you or whatever, you know, we we'll get that uh that reset going.
Uh since uh since Harrison was here and talking first, Adam, why don't you introduce yourself to the killstream audience once again?
You've been on the program a couple times, but Adam Green, no more news.org is my website.
Um on DLive Bit Shoot, YouTube.
I do videos mainly focusing on Zionism and Israel and Jewish supremacy, Judaism, prophecy, end times prophecy stuff, uh that sort of thing.
So naturally I uh have a lot of disagreements with InfoWars.
All right.
Also, chat's mentioning that they they couldn't see the picture.
I'll pull that back up real quick.
But Harrison, go ahead and introduce yourself now.
Okay, Harrison Smith.
Uh, you can find me at Off Limits News on Twitter and uh all the other things.
And uh I've worked for InfoWars for about three years at this point, got hired as an editor and camera guy, and then I just started making reports and nobody stopped me.
So now that's generally what I do with them.
And uh I feel like for the purposes of this discussion, I should make it abundantly clear.
Uh I am not Jewish.
Uh, I've never been Jewish.
No one in my family is Jewish.
Uh been a Christian my whole life.
My family's been here.
Uh was some of the first 300 families uh to arrive in Texas um on my dad's side.
My family's been here since um before America was a thing.
I feel like I need to get that across because uh I know that's going to be an accusation quite a bit.
And so I wasn't gonna say that.
I feel I mean I get that from a lot of people and a lot of people who no, no, yeah, not you.
But and I just want to make it clear like I'm not here to argue for the Jews.
I think they can do that fine by themselves.
I'm not here to tell you that you can't talk about Zionism or prophecies or Judaism or anything like that.
Uh specifically, my issue, I think with Adam, is the stuff he says about InfoWars and the lies he says about InfoWars, because I know they're not true, and I don't appreciate other people uh spreading them around.
So that's that's the issue I would like to discuss or what I'm here for.
Uh just things abundantly clear.
Let's do that since I mean the onus kind of is on Adam in a certain way in this in this because uh he's wanted to have a discussion like this with InfoWars and Yeah, I think you've been on InfoWars anyway.
We'll get into that, but why don't I just let you uh lead it off, Adam?
Go ahead.
Yeah, I have had um had two two short debates with Owen Schreuer, one on my channel and one on the war room.
And a few months ago I called into the show and waited on hold for like two hours and got through and was heavily muted by Jones and insulted and didn't let me respond to any of his points.
He never honestly debates any of his critics and has any good debates.
He takes callers, but he's really good at uh uh using the mute button to uh to win those.
And I do want to say thanks for having me on and thanks for being here, Harrison.
And uh Harrison was on Ralph Retort like a couple weeks ago, and I was on Twitter and I said, I will debate anyone from InfoWars, and you guys all set it up.
So and I had been talking about maybe trying to have uh Harrison on for uh a debate as well.
So I'm happy to be here and happy to talk about this.
All right, now what do you say to his opening salvo there?
Well, he says that I'm spreading lies about InfoWars.
What are these lies that I'm spreading?
Uh that there's some sort of uh maligned influence that we are paid by Israel that we are um told to not be able to do that.
Uh that's the general uh emphasis of what you're trying what you talk about, what you say.
And I think you know go ahead.
Well, let me just clarify.
I've said all the time throughout the years, I don't know exactly what's going on, but the bottom line that's clear for everybody to see is that you guys are definitely the narrative is pro-Israel, pro-Zionism, and it's not just that you're not criticizing stuff and you're lying by omission, but you're counter-signaling.
You're you're putting out like convoluted, twisted, inverted truth narrative that's just like misdirection and disinfo and smearing people and counter-signaling people that do call out Zionism and Israel and Jewish power in America.
And I'm not saying a lot of this, I'm not even targeting at you, Harrison.
You've been around at InfoWars for three years.
I started listening to Alex Jones in 2009, so it's been 11 years.
And after all the years seeing him go, oh, I'm neutral, I criticize them, I'm not a Zionist.
And then once this, you know, 2012 and then 2015 when Trump came around, it's like he took off the mask and just went full Zionist, full Trump shill, full shilling for Netanyahu and Kushner, and it got really bad.
So I've never claimed that you guys are for sure Mossad agents or you're being paid, or even that you're blackmail.
I've speculated that it could be some of these things, but the bottom line is the info you put out is like kosher conspiracy garbage, where you'll criticize all this other stuff except the main big elephant in the room.
And frankly, InfoWars's and Alex Jones's credibility has been shot from this.
The word is getting out, people are waking up and they know, and InfoWars has become like a joke.
No credibility when it comes to these issues, and just a pure Trump network sycophant, wall-to-wall coverage.
and go ahead uh well yeah i think definitely we are pretty heavily pro-trump and And that generally I think is a wider understanding of the you know, the global chessboard or whatever you want to call it, and how Trump fits into that and what an opportunity he is.
And in fact, that Trump really represents um the truth that things are not all controlled by puppets moving strings.
I think legitimately the people in power wanted Hillary to win when Trump got elected, it was you know astonishing to them, and they, you know, couldn't handle it.
And so I think you're wrong basically in two different ways.
I think you're wrong about the supposition that we are told what to say, or like you know, intentionally don't talk about things.
I literally talk about whatever, whenever I'm American, I have no loyalty to Israel, I don't have anything, no reason to protect them or talk, you know, nothing.
I literally, if it's something that somebody's doing that is bad, I will cover it, regardless of who they are, where they come from, anything like that.
At the same time, we have an individualist mentality, which means you we don't smear any groups of people really ever at all, right?
We you know about the Chicoms, what about China?
That's a country.
Jones is fine about blaming the Chicom, saying they control everything or the Muslims run the Federal Reserve.
But if you say that it's Jews that do it, he says you're you're mentally ill and that the Jews are the that Israel's a distraction.
And if you talk about Zionism, you're you know eating Cheetos in your mom's basement and you're a Nazi, he says it's bad, Harrison.
And I got all the clips too.
I don't like how on well, well, one, I did like you uh on our R O T C I covered it on my video the other night.
I thought that was funny.
You're like, we're primarily gonna talk about the Jew stuff.
Um, right.
But you said that you said that I play clips of Jones out of context, and that is just a flat out lie.
There's so many.
No, no, no.
I was talking about uh your debate with Owen Schreuer, where you were just like rapid fire playing a whole bunch of videos of Jones and like telling him to defend it.
Like, I'm not Jones, I don't need to defend Jones.
Jones defends himself on his radio show every day.
He doesn't, though.
He doesn't.
He he he should be debating me.
Instead, I have to do these with you or with Owen or I have to call in.
I'll explain it.
Because this is my second point, right?
The first point I think you're just wrong about what you say about InfoWars and other things.
Excuse me.
I also think you're wrong in your tactics because even if you were right, your tactics and the tactics of your followers uh are counterproductive to what you're trying to achieve.
In a lot of ways, I think you and I have the same enemies of like globalism and people who, you know, the anti-Christ faction, which I think, you know, basically in the world, you have people who are working for Christ and working against him, and that's not the Jews, it's everybody who's evil and does evil things and works for evil.
Bob Lubavich, Chabad Lubavitch with Kushner and all the ultra-orthodox that are around.
Great.
Sounds good.
They are extremely anti-Christian.
They're the ones that are calling for the Moshiach, which Christians believe will be the Jewish Messiah, the antichrist in Christianity.
Gotcha.
Um, but here's the thing.
I will go on Twitter and I will say something that is anti-Zionist.
I'm I'm criticizing Israel in some way about something they're doing.
They're, you know, uh bobbing children because somebody floated a balloon across their field.
And I comment on it, and I'm like, you know, let's laugh at Israel for being so lame or whatever.
And I don't get any Jewish people contacting me or responding to it, saying, Oh, what the hell?
They're just trying to like nothing.
I get no response from them.
Instead, what I get are followers of you, your fans, and uh people who you know link your videos and stuff, and they're like, Why won't you talk about Israel?
What are you covering up for, Zionist shill?
And so for me, I'm like, what the hell?
I'm not sure.
It's because you work for InfoWars.
They've seen what InfoWars and Alex Jones has done over the years.
Right.
But I'm explaining, I'm explaining how I'm explaining how Alex Jones could get to this point because to me, it's like it's so insistent and it's so pervasive, and it's like constantly people who agree with you are like bothering the hell out of me and like demanding that I cover what they want me to cover, and why aren't you talking about the third temple and all this other crap?
And it's like, then it's like, oh my god, these people are literally I'm I'm criticizing Israel, and they're calling me a Zionist shill.
These people seem crazy, and I'm not calling people crazy out there if you if you will either.
There's crazy out people, there's crazy people out there online that attack me all the time too.
So let's not talk about them and their behavior.
Let's talk about my issues that I have with with info wars.
Like Alex Jones is parroting ADL talking points about Israel.
I've done the compilation so and showing Abe Foxman and Barry Weiss and all the Zionists, and he repeats the same talking points.
Like Israel just gets blamed for everything.
They're the scapegoat, this double standard argument that that you know the magnifying glasses is always on them.
And if you fall on a banana peel, they blame it on Israel.
These this stuff that he says.
And Jones has had to, like, for his whole career, basically, there's been these rumors and accusations that he's a Zionist.
And then now he goes, Everybody bullied me so much that now what you said about me is true, and I am pro-Israel and I am a Zionist.
He's lying.
He was always a Zionist.
See, but I I literally sympathize with that because that's how I feel.
I'm like, I should theoretically be on y'all's side.
Like if you put if you were to put up the chart or whatever, and like I'm closer to y'all than I am with you know, CNN or whatever, but it's like the annoyingness of it, the like demand that uh we cover exactly what you think is going on, and the fact that you focus on Israel and Jews exclusively, which is true.
And like, you know, you put up a tweet today saying, Oh, I'm sure we'll we'll learn what the ChaiCom means.
It's like, do you not think that the coronavirus has something to do with the communist Chinese?
No, no, no.
Really, like I said, the tweet was I listened to Alex Jones this morning, and he starts the show saying, It is clear this the coronavirus is a bioweapon, and it's made by the ChaiComs in the deep state to take down America and bring down Trump.
And he doesn't know any of that stuff.
Who knows if it wasn't Israel that went and planted it in China or something like that?
See, but that that's he doesn't know his thing.
You have you have whenever he blames the Chikoms and the globalist, everybody did you can just kind of replace Zionist and and Jews basically in there, and then you'd get the truth.
Come on, the ChaiComs run Hollywood.
When Epstein got arrested, I have the clip too.
Jones did a quick video at the airport, and he goes, This is how the Clintons and the deep state and the Chikoms control us with Epstein's blackmail is what he was talking about.
Well, I've he's he's also talked about the fact that Ghislain Maxwell is hiding out in Israel and has talked about the Mossad connections to Epstein and Weinstein and all these people.
He talks about this stuff on his show, which it's like it's not like he doesn't talk about this stuff.
It's like if you even start to talk about this stuff, people from both sides start swarming around you.
It's annoying.
But anyway, you talk about that stuff, but at the same time, that is not the only faction that's out there.
The Chinese, the Chinese communists are a powerful faction on their working age.
That's the other part.
It's a false dichotomy.
They're working tech deals with Israel, big belt and road trade initiative.
He talks about the ChaiComs.
Look at who brought communism to to uh China with Mao.
It was a bunch of Jewish communists back in the 50s.
He and he talks about the fact that the banks went in there and set up communist China.
He does He doesn't say, and by the way, they were Jews.
It's like, no, there were bankers that went in and set up this communist system and that supported Mao and did all this.
But that's the thing.
You can talk about the Chinese communists.
You can talk about what they're doing.
You can talk about the problems they have and the influence they have over our country and the way that you know globalism is failing, how we get everything from them, all this sort of stuff.
And I mean, I guess you can play find the Jew and go, yes, but they're also connected to Israel, or you can say there are many, many factions all over the world.
They're always vying for power against each other.
Some are infiltrated, some aren't, some have control over others.
Like it's a wide array, a vast array of you know, powers trying to manipulate each other.
And to focus on one to the exclusion of the others is just not an accurate view.
Well, that's what Jones does.
He excludes Zionism, or he's a lot, he's aligned with Zionism.
I mean, shilling so hard with Trump.
Trump is a freaking traitor for Israel, basically.
Signing executive orders that college campuses can't criticize a foreign country.
These anti-bigs, yeah, it's disgusting.
It's crazy.
It's absolutely disgusting.
Trump is being funded, and and Jones always used to say, Oh, he's his own man, he's independent, you know, he's not bought off by billionaires.
Sheldon Adelson, how often does Alex Jones talk about Sheldon Adelson who spends hundreds of millions on Trump, buys all the Republicans?
He's he literally flies over to Jerusalem with the governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis, and signs a bill, no criticizing Israel on Florida campuses in Jerusalem.
Adelson's and I come back.
Hold on, let me finish one point about Alice.
Adelson, I got a clip of Adelson saying, All I care about is being a good Zionist and a good citizen of Israel, and this guy is buying off Trump.
They're saying it Trump gives his wife the medal of freedom or whatever it is, top award for citizens.
He she says she hopes though there will be a biblical book of Trump, Apex, ZOA, all of this, these Zionists, Christian Zionists that surround Trump, all these Jewish Chabad ultra-orthodox.
It's it's he's the Israeli president.
Mark Levin said you're the first Jewish president, and Jones is saying, don't worry about the Zionists.
You're mentally ill if you say they have any power.
It's it's straight disinfo gatekeeping misinformation.
Over 2,000 people watching the kill stream live right now.
We're having a blood sports between Adam Green and Harrison Smith of InfoWars.
I'm gonna read these because they paid me to read these.
Uh Turkey Baser says Richmond has house, hash house.
Almost said ass house.
That's not the same thing.
Hash House Harriers, green dress tomorrow.
I'm gonna let you get in next, by the way, Harrison.
Turkey Baser says 1 p.m.
Ponies and Pints, come and say hi, Ralph.
Then he says Saturday, not Friday, pregame too hard.
Gordzilla 37 says, by Alex's own admission, his producer, he says small hat.
Uh must be some lingo.
I'm not familiar.
Of course I am familiar with it.
But uh producer's Jewish.
I don't know.
I I really don't.
And I'm gonna I have a question for Adam too, but I'm gonna let Harrison respond after.
But I mean, first, uh Gordilla 37, resub for three months, eight-month streak.
Thank you, sir, for that kind support.
Beard the butcher says, Why does Alex Jones shill against all the Middle East wars?
Um, I mean, sorry, sorry, are you done?
Uh well, not quite.
Somebody else linked a CNN article, and I didn't see this before we came on air.
Uh, but apparently uh the United States has uh launched air strikes against multiple Iranian-backed militia sites in Iraq that just happened right before we came on air, and I didn't see it until just now.
So yeah, um, that's happened.
Uh, I don't know if it's since we started the show or right before Trita says, hashtag Rand Thoughts Rise Up.
Beard the Butcher says anyone who doesn't name them is a Zionist shill.
Herward Silvatici says, competition, best AJ impersonation, Adam Green, E R. Is that me?
I don't really have a good one.
Uh, or Harrison Smith.
We'll get to that maybe at the end.
Gorzilla 37 says, in the Western world, small hats exclusively hold the reins to all power.
Pyrrhus 777 also chimed in, just didn't say anything.
Thank you.
Corzil37 says that matters.
That was the last part of his hold all the reins to power that matters.
Now, Harrison, go ahead.
Okay, yeah, I sort of lost y'all a little bit.
I'm not sure if um y'all could hear me, but uh Trump is so this is one of the things.
Zionism, to me, as I see it, is one aspect of a wide array of issues that are affecting the world right now.
Now, if you want to boil everything down into he supports Zionism or just supports Israel, you know, if you want to extrapolate Zionism, this esoteric concept from Israel.
He calls himself the king of Israel.
So let's not exactly just some little thing.
He calls himself a bunch of crazy stuff.
But if you look at what he's actually done, you heard Hillary Clinton before, you know, during the election saying we will go to war with Iran.
Trump has done a masterful job of keeping people happy who could eliminate him at any time, right?
That's something you have to understand Israel.
Well, at the same time, keeping us out of the Middle East.
This war in Syria is over.
The uh, you know, ISIS no longer exists.
And I'm not saying this is a rah-rah, we beat the Muslims thing.
I'm saying this as a if you look at what Israel and the Zionists want, it was for Assad to go away.
Assad that's not necessarily true, though.
That's a misconception.
The clean break just called for it to be destabilized and uh balkanized.
Okay, well, destabilization involves civil war and kicking Assad out.
I'm pretty sure that was an obvious, you know, part of Yahoo says that he's fine with with Assad staying also.
Okay, well, I don't trust listen to this.
Okay, 10 years ago.
Hold on, hold on.
Yeah, let him let him get in.
Go ahead, go ahead, Harrison.
Go ahead.
So I can agree with Trump about 90% of the stuff and disagree with him about Zionism.
I don't think that he is there for a complete Zionist shill that you can be thrown to the side.
And I understand that, you know, a lot of the way this works is hey, you can say whatever you want, just don't say this.
And so you go, okay, I'll I'll go along with you.
But in my reading of the world, not based on again, esoteric kind of like prophecies about a third temple, but rather the real on the ground forces of Hezbollah and other Iranian back missions or um, you know, uh militias, along with Iran and Iraq itself and Syria and Assad and ISIS and all these sorts of things.
What Trump has done is almost unbelievable in the way that he has de-escalated the situation, has not allowed any of the globalist actors to put forward their agenda, has not, you know, toppled Assad's not done anything.
I'm pissed off at him about you know, he hasn't shut the border, he's done he hasn't done a lot of stuff that I wanted him to do.
There's a lot of things about Trump that I can complain about, but that doesn't mean I think that he is now you know an agent of the Zionists or something.
It's like there's a nuanced view to the world that I think you are lacking.
We knew hyper.
If it was Obama treating another country or Hillary treating another country like Trump does with Israel, Jones would be losing his mind every day.
If there was another president signing a bill that you can't criticize China or Saudi Arabia or whatever, he would be jumping up and down, screaming at the top of his lungs, they they ripped up the constitution, they overturned the first amendment.
There was essentially silence from Jones about the executive order, about BDS, about this whole new anti-Semitism definition.
I mean, 10 10 years ago, Jones was in an interview and said, Israel are the kings of blackmail.
He said it twice.
And then nowadays he's scared to even uh criticize him.
He goes, I'm not against Israel, I'm not against Israel.
He called he calls you crazy if you do talk about Israel.
He says, I don't want to talk about it.
I put together the compilations on my channel.
There's a playlist, info war is exposed.
Yeah, yeah, but so many examples.
That's one of the things is that I will be watching a montage that you put together, and it's literally a montage of like a bunch of Jewish people talking about how they want to like destroy white people and bring down America, and it's like, well, this is this is pretty crazy stuff.
And that's like Alex Jones, like, I've never even big to Israel, I don't know what the hell they're talking about.
And it's like it's like this doesn't belong in the rest of the montage, it has nothing to do with the rest of it.
Well, I don't know what montage you're talking about, but usually I would only throw Jones in if it's applicable.
I I mean, I don't know, it was whatever your most recent one was.
And it was like it just didn't fit, even just from a you know, objective, totally objective uh position.
It was like, why are these clips in here?
It's because you think that Jones is some sort of uh Mossad agent when in reality he's just not like do you think it's possible that people can just legitimately be pro-Israel because they you know see the world in a certain way that says, you know, I like that there is Israel in the Middle East, and I think that they're a threat, you know, either that's he's biased, he's a biased Zionist.
Yeah, I guess so.
That's what I'm saying.
Is he Zionist propagandist that doesn't tell the truth about what's going on with their with their power and with their control over Trump?
And And here's a question.
There's a video where Jones is with Schreuer, and he goes, I was visited by a Massad agent who was pretending to be a journalist.
Why won't Jones tell us who that Mossad agent is?
Under foreign agent that's a journalist in America and he's keeping that secret.
He was also on air with Jerome Corsi, who was in the CNP World Net Daily, huge Zionist network that he hired to be Corsi to be the DC correspondent.
He goes, I'm getting text messages from high up above Mossad, above in Israeli intelligence, above Mossad.
And they said, Great, I'm gonna break this info this this story on InfoWars, and they said, Great.
So Corsi who gets hired, has high up contacts with high up Israeli intelligence and comes from World Net Daily.
Joseph Farrell says he's a big time Christian Zionist.
They have all these articles about build the third temple and the crown for the Moshiach and stuff.
Not to mention all the other networks, uh uh uh media alt media right wing Trump supporters like Project Veritas, uh World Net Daily, Rebel Media, Breitbart, they're all Zionist.
The the Republican Trump supporters are completely dominated by Zionists.
This whole Fuentes Groiper versus con Inc.
It's con Inc.
is Zionism.
That's the establishment.
And they're even kicking out you guys and censoring you, and you're still shilling for him, and you still won't criticize him, and you're still hold on supporting Trump.
I I criticize them all the time.
I never don't criticize them if I think that's something they've done worth criticizing.
And yes, who are some of the Zionist experts that you've had on to expose Zionism?
Let him go.
Let him go.
Go ahead, Erson.
See, that that is the issue.
We don't focus on Zionism.
If there's something like you're missing the elephant in the room, then that is the problem.
Just we will cover that.
If there's like the Chaicoms, the Chaicoms taking over Hollywood, Muslims taking over the Federal Reserve, the important issues, right?
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
I know you're I know you're fired up, Adam.
No problem with that.
But let him get in.
Go ahead, go ahead, Harrison.
No, but this is the this is the frustration.
What is the accusation that he doesn't cover things the way you want them to be covered?
Truthfully, he doesn't cover cover them truthfully.
No, he covers them truthfully.
He just doesn't uh bring on Zionist experts.
Like it's an absurd demand.
So he brings on all pro-Zionist people and then knows.
Dude, do you watch the show?
We have people on all the time that criticize Israel.
That's just inaccurate.
Yeah, you had you had David Ike on with his book The Trigger, and if Jones would have read it, he would have saw that David Ike called him out twice in the book for shilling for Trump and for being afraid to talk about the ultra Zionists that are in control of so much of America in the world.
Like 15 years ago, there's a clip.
I have this one too.
Jones was in a commercial break with a guest, and the guest was like, Yeah, you know, that Zionists just totally dominate politics, and it's hard to talk about it even on this network.
Jones says, Oh, yeah, well, we do now, but it doesn't really do any good.
And then they went back, Ted Pike.
The and that's it, that's proof.
That's it, you know.
A 15-year-old two-second clip of like an offhand comment that Jones says right before going.
Everything's proof.
That's just a that's just one aspect of the proof.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's it's absurd because I'm just I'm just telling you, I heard all of this, I know all of this.
You don't have to tell me any of this.
I knew it all before I ever went to work at InfoWars.
I went there with the idea of like, man, if this is really a psyop, I'm about to find out you know the truth behind it, and I found out that it's dude.
Literally you don't know everything that goes on behind the scenes at InfoWars.
I go on and I host a three-hour show, I get any guests I want on, I talk about anything I want.
Nobody tells me what to talk or what to not talk about.
But there just hasn't been any anti-Zionist, anti-Israel guests on then.
Or and if there are very, very few.
See, you are viewing the world through your view of I'm going to have a Zion.
I'm not like I'm up here to battle Zionism.
I'm in your in Jones's narrative is Israel just doesn't have any power and doesn't exist and isn't all over Trump's campaign.
That's not the case at all.
I was bailed out by Will Ross in the early 90s.
That was Rothschild Baker.
And now Jones says, Yeah, my CIA source told me that the Rothschilds are backing Trump and they're bringing wealth back to the people.
That came out of Jones's mouth, that the Rothschilds are bringing wealth back to the people.
He says, here comes Netanyahu with the cavalry to save us.
He says, Kushner's a good-looking guy and strong.
And this is exactly why I said I would host a debate on a channel like this, because I didn't feel like commenting on a bunch of 15-year-old out-of-context clips from my blog.
These are the last few years.
We love 15-year-old drama here on the Killstream.
But anyway, go ahead.
No, okay, these are not coherent accusations of any sort.
You have no proof whatsoever.
Alex Jones covers things the way he wants to cover them.
If you have a disagreement with him about how he's covering things, that's fine.
A lot of people do.
But the idea that that somehow makes him propagating propaganda, and all these little creatures are like, oh, they've gotten their talking points.
They've gotten their marching orders or whatever.
It's like it's an absurd thing to say.
Alex Jones is as real as he could possibly be.
Like when he's in front of the camera, when he's off camera.
He's a liar, dude.
He's a lying fraud, man.
He's such a liar.
I don't even want to bring up his personal stuff.
Wait, wait, wait.
Let me ask you this.
I just want to put this out there.
Now, you know a lot about InfoWars.
Was there a time that you liked InfoWars?
You know what I mean?
Or did you just follow it to the critics?
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
I liked InfoWars a lot.
But I was always very suspicious of these.
You know, early on, there was videos saying that he's a Zionist and he won't cover this.
And he's lying about that.
And I thought there was some validity.
But I kind of gave him the benefit of the doubt because I did see he would criticize it sometimes.
But it's just become absolutely beyond any doubt that he does.
Something changed and he shills harder than ever.
And he talks about, he joked with Schroyer recently.
Schroyer was like, oh, there's this article that Eric Prince of Blackwater is setting up a deep state to help fight for Trump.
And he goes, what do you think you're doing here?
What do you think you're doing here?
Project Veritas also trained with Eric Prince in Blackwater, who is CMP.
What do you know about CMP?
Well, hold on.
Back up.
What was that accusation that Alex is setting up a deep state in the background?
Eric Prince from Blackwater.
Yeah.
And then Jones, you're doing the same thing here.
Schroyer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's the same thing.
Like we have stickers that say, I am Q. Not because we're supportive of the Q movement, but because the entire point of info, Info Wars is a human intelligence network that works together and infiltrates leftist movements and gets video of it and exposes it to the world.
That is the point of Info Wars.
That is what we're not setting up a deep state because we obviously don't have that.
That's not what I said.
That's not what I said.
I need the clip to really explain that.
I know.
Yeah.
But the point is, doesn't Jones have a Blackwater bodyguard too?
Does he have a Blackwater bodyguard?
Yeah.
The big, the real big guy with the long beard.
There.
No.
No.
Okay.
What do you know about the CNP?
The Council on National Policy.
We'll just skip right over that.
What do I know about the what?
The CNP, the Council for National Policy.
It's the right wing Zionist think tank group that Jones is tied in with a lot of people who are members.
What do you mean tied in with?
Has him on the show, hired Jerome Corsi.
It's the same networks.
It's this right wing Zionist networks that Jones is tied in with.
All right.
Go ahead, Harrison.
What were you going to say about Corsi?
I was just asking if you know what happened with Jerome Corsi.
I don't.
You guys have drama.
That's why I don't know.
But he still hired him though.
But wait, let him, because I really don't know.
You know, I tune into InfoWars here and there, but I'm not as plugged in as, you know, I have to run my own show and stuff too.
What happened with Corsi exactly, Harrison?
I don't even know what happened with Corsi exactly.
All I know is that he sort of screwed us over in certain ways.
But here's the thing.
Alex Jones is as real as he can possibly be.
I disagree with him about things.
I go up and I speak my mind.
I say whatever I believe on his shows, on his channel, on his network.
He literally says, say whatever you want.
Just tell the truth.
That is like the motto that we go by.
So it's like all of these accusations where you can take him making a joke about, oh, yeah, we're setting up the deep state over here too.
Like this is not proof.
This is not evidence.
This is just you have your hyper focused.
You're looking for evidence of something that you supposed to be true.
you're going to find all I Gotta do is turn to the show and hear him talk about the Chicoms nonstop when the Zionists are running both sides of politics.
Look at Apex.
He's talking about ChiCom all day, but not APEC.
I mean, give me a break.
Dude, we talk about all this stuff.
That's it.
Like, this is just not true.
We talk about the ADL.
We talk about the SPLC.
I mean, did you see the did you see the rant of Alex Jones talking about the ADL recently?
He was going insane about it.
Like he said they're anti-Israel and they're left.
See, and this is the thing.
If it's evidence that doesn't support your theory, then whatever, just cost it out.
It's a throwing a bone.
Oh, but if it's if if if it's an off-handed comment to a friend about something, evidence, it's proof.
The mask has slipped.
It's him.
It's it's not reality.
The reality is that everybody has nuanced ideas.
We disagree with each other about certain things.
But overall, and over the course of everything, Alex Jones and InfoWars has been such a powerful movement for human freedom and against all of these nefarious hidden uh you know cabals that are manipulating.
Besides supporting the Zionist, which is the biggest cabal out there.
And telling it and telling everybody that you're you're dumb if you if you pay attention to it.
No, we we literally cover everything.
I'm never told not to cover something.
I'm never told how many times has Jones talked about the tech to Israeli tech takeover and the transfer to Israel.
He talks about the ChaiCom's running Silicon Valley and everything when there's so much to cover with the tech transfer to Israel.
You want her network never covered it once.
You want him, you want him to cover the Israel thing.
It's a national security threat.
The biggest threat to America, yes, the biggest imminent threat that he says are our allies, they're coming to the rest.
India's also a big threat.
You see him covering the communist Chinese who control our manufacturing, who all of the Apple products come out of, who made a deal with Apple saying you have to give us a backdoor if you're going to do stuff here.
Who you know, all of Hollywood is not run by the Chinese.
There, they were in negotiations, and we can get into that.
How it didn't go through.
The guy wanted to buy six studios, and it did it didn't end up going through because strangely enough, China wants to propagate its citizens, propagandize, I should say its citizens with like weirdly uh uh wholesome stuff a lot of the time, and they're not down with a lot of the stuff that Hollywood is pushing, and so they weren't able to come to an agreement.
But the influence that China has, like the market that opened up for them and how that has influenced the movies that are made and how they're being made and how they're being sell in China.
These are all things that are concerning us, these are all enemies of America.
China is an enemy.
Israel, I would say, is an enemy.
There's in Jones says they're not.
They I have a clip, they're not the enemy, leave them alone.
That doesn't mean he's a propagandist for them.
It means he has a different opinion.
He's not telling the truth about their control or their plans, their their end time plans.
He'll talk about oh, the Muslims want to have a caliphate and take over the whole world.
He never talks about the Zionists and Abad Lubavitch and the temple and any of that stuff, which is actually things the way you want him to cover them.
Sorry.
Trump on the coin, they're calling him the Messiah in Ukraine.
He's calling himself the king of the Jews, and and you guys are acting, and then you bring in Trey Smith and all these Zionists and stuff on the show, and uh, but pretends like it's not happening.
Leo's agami too attacks me, says I'm an anti-Semite for talking about Zionism.
Meanwhile, he has a Jewish guy on his show that's talking about Moshiach Third Temple, Gog and Magog, uh, all the end time stuff.
Wait, he's talking about that stuff.
Yeah, Leo uh Z Leo Zagami.
He's in support of these things.
Ted Pike, the the Christian pastor support of these things, or is he talking of it?
Because you talk about these things on your show.
Like, yeah, he's he's he wants them to happen, he wants to build the third temple, he wants the Noah Hide laws out there.
So Ted Pike, the guy that made the old documentaries about uh the Talmud and stuff, he's a pastor.
He was on Jones' show a year ago, years ago, and Jones told him during the commercial or before they started that stay up, don't go too hard on the Jews because I'm on Jewish radio stations.
That's what he told him.
If you're on Jewish radio stations, you can't pretend like, oh, I'm the the tip of the spear telling the full truth and and the controversial stuff when you're avoiding some of the biggest power structure out there.
I mean, what what does that even mean?
We are on our own systems.
InfoWars is like fully self-contained and self-free.
You're not on hundreds of radio stations.
Yeah, we're on radio stations, but I don't think we're on I don't really, I don't really know.
I mean, I guess if that is the case, I would say you don't even know if you're on radio stations, but you know the the inner workings of InfoWars and if there's any type of outside influence giving Jones talking points or anything.
I know if he's getting talking points.
He wouldn't tell you.
I'm 100% sure.
This is the thing.
It's like, God, if you if you came to the studio for like one day, you would probably be like, oh, okay, it really is like this.
Because the idea that anybody could give Jones talking points is just absurd.
I mean, I will walk into the studio with a story and go.
I didn't say he gives you like he could get talking points and you wouldn't know it.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm a host on the I host the show.
I'm hosting War Room on Monday.
I wouldn't I get some of the talking points, wouldn't they want to do that?
When you go along with the theme of being an apology apologist for Trump and don't criticize Israel or Zionism all that much.
Okay, but I don't do that.
So that kind of shatters your whole theory, right?
Like I literally talk about it.
I'm just not I'm not anti-Israel just outright.
I criticize things that Israel does.
I criticize things that Israelis do when they do bad things.
And when they do good things, I'll I'll cover that positively.
It's a principled view of the world where I know that there are good people and there are bad people.
Like I really want to know why.
So I'm not I'm not painting with a broad brush and saying all Jews are evil, all Jews are bad or anything like that.
I'm very specific with names, groups, actions that they're doing.
Yeah, well, but only if they're Jewish, right?
And that's what it seems like to me.
You don't cover communist Chinese doing it.
Christian Zionists, I cover a lot of Christian Zionist of wealth.
It's these end times fanatics that are talking about the rapture and the end times and wars that are that are controlling our government.
That's what controls me.
That what bothers me and is a concern.
Let me ask you, what do you know about Delta Force?
From a spiritual uh aspect, you're exactly right.
That the Protestants, the Catholics, the Jews, and the Muslims all say that the Messiah basically is right around the corner.
That's who's coming.
Whereas my reading of the Bible is that the next you know event that will happen will be the antichrist coming.
So it all seems to kind of fall into line that you have people who are misreading the prophecies, misreading the text, or you know, lying about them, saying, uh, Jesus is coming, Jesus is right around the corner, when really they're paving the way for the antichrist.
But it's all of these groups, it's not one in particular, and they're not controlled by one in particular.
And like if you view the world that way, I'm just saying you're incorrect.
The Sun Tzu's first you know law in the art of war is know yourself and know your enemy.
If your enemy is not who you think it is, if you are just focusing on one aspect of your enemy, you're going to lose.
You cannot win in that way.
So if you shut yourself off to all of the other influences that are occurring in the world stage, then you are just wrong about who who are these uh other influences that you're talking about?
Who am I ignoring?
All of the people that like the they have who has more power over Trump in America and uh than the Zionists.
Look, both sides too.
It's not just the Republicans, you got Pelosi saying, even if our capital was in crumbles, nothing's more important than our aid to Israel.
Schumer.
Yeah, it's it's totally insane the way that our representatives talk about Israel and the the Ron DeSantis thing, going to Israel and being like, oh no, we're we're not doing any business there.
And like people, uh Jewish people uh put forward a bill, you know, a petition saying you're not allowed to go conduct business in a foreign country.
And they said, We're not conducting business, don't it's just a we're gonna take a couple pictures, shake a couple hands, no worries, don't worry about it.
And then they get there or they get back, and it's like, we signed the biggest deal ever.
The headline was like, biggest deal ever signed with Israel.
And it's like, okay, so you're lying.
You're doing govern, you know, American state government business in a foreign country.
All of these things are wrong.
Are they wrong because it's Israel?
Are they wrong because it's Zionist?
No, it's wrong because it's a foreign country, it's foreign influence, it's all these sorts of things.
It's like you're you're not you're not saying, oh, that's fine because it's Israel, and you're not saying, oh, that's bad because it's Israel.
It's bad on a principled uh manner that that it would be bad with any country, it would be bad with any group of people Exerting this much force and and this much control.
And I mean, you can look at all the you know, uh Al Jazeera came out with the um documentaries, The Lobby, right?
where they-Did Rollins ever cover that one?
All the spying going on?
Has he talked about Israeli spying?
That's the problem.
I prove your theories wrong, right?
I talk about all of this.
I just don't have any influence on anybody else on Infowars and nobody in Infowars tells me not to do it.
But I know that- That people like you are gonna bother me, Jewish people are gonna bother like you get a lot of crap thrown at you if you even start talking about it.
So I still do because I don't care, and I'll just cover stuff regardless.
But it's perfectly understandable to me that somebody would say, dude, these anti Semitic people, these these people that just are hyper focused on Zionism, piss me off, and they're weird and they're too obsessed, and I don't like them.
So, you know, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
You guys make me feel like an enemy the way that you attack me and the way you attack info wars, and it's like, my God, it are are they should I be on the other thing?
You should feel like enemies.
I consider you guys the enemy.
You're not on my side.
You guys are aiding the traitors and covering up.
I mean, if Jones isn't talking, you can't pretend to be a patriot of America and not be screaming about Sheldon Adelson getting Trump to pass laws with Kushner that we can't talk about Jews having loyalty to Israel or Jews having controlling societal institutions.
I what I legitimately, what is the reason that you would be against that?
Because Jones Jones is an apologist and defends mildly criticizing the law itself, right?
The law itself is a uh uh suppression of our free speech, it's a destruction of our first amendment.
That is wrong.
On a prince principled aspect, that is not right, it should be resisted, it should be argued against.
And if if it was somebody else besides Trump and a Zionist do it, and if it was the Democrats doing it with another country, Jones is not consistent, he would be losing his mind over all of it.
That's fine.
I'm not let me ask you about Delta Force, please, Delta Force.
Let's do Delta Force and then I'm gonna read these, and I have some questions for both of you, believe it or not.
Uh but yeah, go ahead.
We'll do Delta Force.
Go ahead.
Okay, Delta Force.
So Jones is talked several times about his connections to Delta Force.
Um what is it called?
Uh I can't remember the the rest of the name of it now.
Let me pull it up.
Um, but he says Trump was recruited by the army, and they told him to come on my show, and Steve Pacenic in psychological operations, and he he's said he said this stuff on coast to coast, he said it several times.
I've got the clips.
What do you know of special operations command out of Florida?
All these groups, their their symbol is the spear, the tip of the spear, and then Jones is like, Oh, I'm the tip of the spear, I'm the tip of the spear everywhere.
I'm curious, which what do you uh what have you ever heard about Delta Force?
Are you aware of these clips that I'm talking about where Jones says this stuff?
No, I'm not.
Well, you'll have to check the video, it's in the playlist.
It's called.
I guess I will call like is Alex Jones a uh spy or something like that.
Okay, I can say that the answer to that is no.
As far as you know, you don't know who he talks to in his in his private time.
Dude, if you okay, yeah.
All right, yeah, I don't know who he talks to in his private time.
I don't either, but I'm just saying you can't say uh just like I can't say for sure I know that he is talking to somebody, you can't say for sure that he's not.
All right, let me read the shouting at Cloud says, Thank you, Ralph.
This is amazing, these two guests.
Actually, this has been one of the better uh bloodsworth that we've hosted, I have to say, just for me, objective standpoint, as the host and moderator.
Beard the butcher says for the Goldman Sachs Third Temple Fund.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate that.
Come on.
It's going to be just waiting Gorzal 37 says, Harrison, I hope you're wearing fishing waiters.
Godzilla 37, then he says, uh, your BS is staking up fast.
Just JD says Harrison looks like David Koresh, no offense.
Uh I had never thought that before I've seen it.
I'm honored.
Thank you very much.
You have a little bit of a resemblance to David Carrash.
I think it's the glasses more than anything, but yeah, I really had never I really had never ranch Dividians.
Ranch Dividians did nothing wrong.
I want to go on the right.
Oh shit.
Okay.
Uh I'm about to get a cramp from laughing so much.
Gorzel 37 says, No offense to David, you mean?
Uh over to the Chef says, H, I guess that's Harrison list the benefits US gets from Israel.
I I mean, if you'd like, I don't really.
I don't I don't know that I don't know.
I'm the moderator side.
I don't like particularly like Israel.
Like I think they completely take advantage of America 100%.
Like this is the problem.
Is that like I say this type of stuff, and then people are like, why do you love Israel so and I'm like, all right, you know, what this is the frustration.
I've acknowledged that I that you're not like Jones, and you do criticize Israel some.
I I'm I'm which is why it's messed up for you to have to come and defend the indefensible of all of Jones's uh No, let me ask you this though.
Okay, so you're you you delineate between him and Jones.
Now Jones employs this person, uh gives him airtime, you know, all the time.
Um what is what would you say?
Well, oh I didn't think about that.
But uh what do you say?
I mean, he does employ this guy, he lets him say what he wants.
Uh you know, is there an argument to be made that um you know he's covering his bases, right?
He's letting letting this guy have editorial control, and um is there an argument to be made there?
I don't I don't know, I'm leaving it up to you.
Um that that he does have another person who has a different point of view and he employs them, pays them, uh lets them come on his well.
I haven't watched uh I don't uh I don't ever watch Harrison's show, so I don't see how critical he's being if it's if it's so opposed to Jones' narrative that it's like a problem there.
Okay.
Well, it's not it's not opposed, I don't think in any particular way.
And it's not like I have a desire to be uh as as Christ-like as I possibly can, right?
Treat others as you would want to be treated.
It annoys me when people talk about white people as if we're all the same.
So I don't talk about other people as if they're all the same.
It's just uh a blanket rule for me.
So I don't talk about the Jews in any particular way because I know Jews that are more conservative than my than I am.
I know everybody has individual uh beliefs and behaviors, and even that can change in a single lifetime if they're presented with different information.
I believe every human has the ability to choose right or wrong.
Like I agree with you on all this.
This is like a straw man argument, basically.
I I don't do that.
I'm just saying this is this is the basis of info war.
This is the info war's ideology is you treat people as individuals, you call out individuals who are doing bad things, you call out networks of individuals who are doing bad things.
But when you get into the collectivist mindset of uh, you know, you know, you read a story about somebody and you go, is this person one of these type of people?
I'm gonna go find their background and find out if they are to prove myself, like that doesn't help anything.
It actually loyalty to the tribe sometimes.
All right, okay, that's fine.
Some people have loyalty to them, some people have loyalty to their own money, some people have loyalty to other things.
Like, that's the problem is that this your theory of Zionists are the root of and you know, b controllers of everything.
I don't say that.
I knew you were gonna say that.
That's a straw man too.
I'm never in my videos saying they control everything.
They can they uh I don't ever say that at all.
I just show what I can prove that they do control.
Like I but if I bring up people like the Bushes, the Clintons, the uh you know Bill Gates, uh Steve Jobs, like what is your answer to those people being major players, major kingpin players in the globalist system that has gotten us to the point where we are now that have detracted our, you know, that have destroyed our rights, that have uh you know enslaved us to machines, like all this sort of stuff.
Jewish, and as far as I can tell, uh they have no you know, Zionism other than what is pull uh politically convenient.
But to you, what do you blame the Bushes?
Do you blame the Clintons?
Or do you I've never said it's all Jews, I never says only Jews.
I said you're these are like the the typical like easy knock out of the part straw man arguments that I'm that I'm not making.
Okay, but then how does that how does that fit?
But if I'm talking about the ChaiComs, if I'm talking about the the Chinese communists and what they're up to, and you come out and say, but you don't talk about the Zion, it's like, but am I wrong about the the Chinese community?
Is that not a threat?
Is that not something to pay attention to?
It's lying by omission, like I said, if you're missing the big elephant in the room, then you're lying by omission.
And the way Jones smears anybody and suppresses anybody and says you're crazy if you talk about Zionism.
Yeah, I mean, you can't say that's not gatekeeping.
I've put together compilations of him just do you I've got like an hour of clips of him saying, I'm tired of it.
No more about Israel, they're not our enemies.
You know, everybody's blaming them for stuff they didn't do.
It's he's such a shill for him.
It's so obvious.
Is there any sense of maybe you have approached it the wrong way?
Because I'm telling you, I'm not pro-Israel in the slightest.
And yet, when I interact with your fans or you, I'm like, oh my god, they're making me pro-Israel by how they act, how they talk to me, how they uh you've got a weak mind then of just a little criticism.
I mean, they attack me, they call me uh they say I work with you guys.
That's how discrediting you are that my reputation is tarnished for even associating with you guys.
That I get it too.
That doesn't make me want to go love Israel because people, some people attack me.
It's not other people talking about me, it's it's you people, it's your fans and people like man should be giving you a hard time because you work it into a wars, and they are traitors to America.
All right, let me say, I'm criticizing Israel, and I have a bunch of spurgs in my comments being like, Yup, you're Zionist shill.
And it's like this doesn't make any sense.
Clearly, that's dumb.
They're dumb if they're if you're criticizing Israel and they're calling and then they're gonna call you a Zionist show right after time, and that drives somebody to go, wow, they really are like these guys are off the rock.
Like, but either way, like I said, you have to know your enemy, you have to understand your enemy.
You have to look at it like almost like a murder investigation where you're looking at a whole bunch of different suspects, and one suspect might be very close to filling all the criteria, but you found out he had an alibi at this certain time.
You can't just ignore that and go, yeah, but he's still most likely it.
You have to pay attention to all these sorts of different things.
You have to understand, and you also have to have empathy with people in order to.
You do have empathy for Jones.
I think he's blackmailed, or he's just in over his head, he bit off more than he can chew.
He doesn't want to lose his empire by getting by criticizing uh just doesn't agree much, or he just doesn't agree with you, right?
Well, then he's not being honest.
I'd like to debate him and show the facts and show where he's lying.
Like shilling for Trump.
Trump won the JNF Award.
That that's the Jewish national fund from Theodore Herzl, the top Zionist award in 1980s.
So with his father donated land to build synagogues for for uh Talmudic synagogues.
He bought bonds for early Israel, invested in Israel.
He was friends with Netanyahu in the early 80s.
Trump uh gave money to the ADL.
He marched in the in the Israel parade.
He is their candidate.
He's giving them so much stuff, he's trampling our rights in America, and to not call it out and to run cover for it is just shameful and really treasonous in mind how how do you explain how he has not done anything that Israel obviously has been clamoring for?
Are you kidding me?
That he's helping them annex the West Bank, he gave them Jerusalem, the Golan Heights, he labeled he labeled Iran terrorists, he didn't give them the sanctioned, he sanctioned Iran, he's getting cities named after him in the Golan Heights.
He brags that he'd win 98% of the vote if he ran in Israel.
I get all of that, but I'm not a single issue type of guy.
I disagree with him on most of those things.
Well, you don't even cover Zionism proportionately to how much influence it has.
It's it's not even close to enough, man.
It's you're you're actually embarrassing yourself to even try to deny that Jones isn't completely pro-Zionist propaganda.
Very mild criticism, very rarely to be proof at all, like throwing a bone.
Like that's just the thing that then Jones isn't an isn't an honest journalist.
He's a pro-Israel propagandist.
That's what I'm saying.
Okay, but I'm pro like France.
Am I a am I a France propagandist?
Like you can just say, look, this country is.
Is that your argument, really?
Yes.
I mean, how is this any different?
Dude, how is Israel in America and France in America different?
For one, we don't where's the French lobby?
For one, where's all these French awards, these defender of Zion awards that everybody around Trump gets?
Where's this unbreakable, unwavering bond in our destiny, our Judeo-Christian destiny and all that stuff?
Come on, there's no comparison.
Is messed up and weird and wrong.
And that's the thing.
Like, I just like Israel in a lot of ways, like in a lot of aspects, because of the way they treat their citizens, the way they treat their neighbors, the way they, you know, do all this sort of stuff.
It's like, but it's not spying, spying on America, attacking America, USS Liberty, dancing Israelis.
Yes, all right.
You can't just let that stuff slide.
And then you don't understand that.
Somebody can know everything that you know and still have a different idea.
Like you you understand that like there are also other things like uh uh networks of power that are operating and that are competing against each other.
And you can say that there's factions.
I've always acknowledged that there's factions.
Okay, so but you hyper focus on one faction that is sort of nebulous, and if you agree with Israel, if you you know don't hate Israel, then you're with them and you're a propagandist for them, and you are all in with them, and you must be being blackmailed by them.
Like they're just another faction that does some good things, does some bad things.
I think you know, I you know my Zionism does some good things for America.
Uh they're just another faction.
I don't think anybody is gonna agree with you on that.
But there are Israel's, there are Israelis in Israel that protest against the Third Temple.
There are Israelis in Israel who are decent, wonderful people that by no fault of their own are the enemy of their neighbors, and you know, they're doing their best to try to make peace with those people.
It's an honor.
I don't talk about all the all of them.
All right.
I don't know how to do that.
Let me let me call time.
I gotta call time.
Look, I gotta call time or where I'm never gonna get in.
Now I I've scheduled this for 90 minutes.
I don't know how many minutes you guys have, but uh I figured the bottom of the hour probably would be uh the end there.
Now we have some callers.
We're gonna take callers, Gator, somebody can throw out the call link.
We'll do a rapid fire call round here in about 15 minutes.
Uh before we do, I'm gonna read these.
I have some questions uh for the guests themselves of the debate participants.
Herward Silvati says, Adam, was it David Duke on InfoWars?
I didn't see it.
Yes, I can answer that question.
He was, and uh very aware that hard to find on their media channels.
Jones pulled it down.
He pulled down the debate.
Uh that's my understanding, yes.
Wonder Girl 60s, uh donated a diamond.
Spicy one with the diamond says, Remember Jones.
Wow, okay.
Remember Jones versus Duke, Jones tried to scrub that.
Harold Silvatigi says, quoting Pelosi, my father was a Shaboskoy.
I don't think did she actually say that?
She did, she did for sure.
Apex, she said that.
Yeah.
Did she actually say that?
Okay, I didn't hear that, but that's unbelievable.
Um Boondock uh with the diamond didn't say anything.
Green Danger says, evil Daniel Bryan versus Disco Inferno.
That's pretty good, actually, if you know your wrestling.
Uh shouting at Klaus.
You do look like evil Daniel Bryan now that I think about it.
Shouting at Cloud says, Ralph, outstanding job as a moderator.
You're a pro.
I appreciate that.
Mostly just stayed out of the way tonight.
Every once in a while, I have to jump in.
Cortillo 37 says, for fuck's sake, Bibble Bibble, let the guests talk.
You always interrupt.
Shut up, Bill.
Shut up, Bibble.
Yeah.
I did I did have some questions here.
Not before.
No, no, you didn't.
No, you didn't, because I gotta get these questions in.
Uh well, just let me get one in.
Adam, how do you feel about D D?
Oh God.
I don't know what that is.
Dungeons and Dragons.
Oh I mean, I don't know what to say about the nerds in high school used to play it.
That's about all I know.
Exactly.
That's right.
Also, no offense, Harrison.
No offense, Harrison.
Can you guys uh can you yell at each other more?
It's been far too polite.
And if you don't know, this is called blood sports, not okay.
I'll let you talk sports.
Now you know what's funny is Dungeons and Dragons is awesome, Adam.
Super fun.
We go.
It's been heated, but it's also been polite, which is rare.
And and I think it's been really good.
Pinkie Kelser says wars for Israel killed millions and cost trillions.
Spartan zero zero zero, sub to me now says French cutting frog skin and French global banks.
There's a couple more.
Duff guy says, obligatory.
We love Israel.
That's in the stream elements chat.
Uh let me refresh that to make sure I got all those.
Okay, I did get those.
Now, here's a question for Adam.
I have uh adversarial questions for both uh that I worked on with the producer but worked on.
I mean, he helped me write them mostly.
But uh Adam Green says the pub or for Adam Green, excuse me.
The publications V-Dair and American Renaissance both discuss a wide variety of controversial topics and do so with honesty and integrity.
Two of the topics that they Actively avoid is Israel and Jewish power.
Is it okay for them to avoid those topics?
Are the controlled opposition disinformation agents?
Are they, excuse me, controlled opposition disinformation agents or Zionists and Jewish shills?
For you, Adam.
Um, you said V Dare doesn't talk about Israel.
Yeah, it's like V Dair and American Renaissance.
I think I've seen them criticize Israel a little bit in American Renaissance.
Is that uh or maybe maybe not that they don't ever talk about it, but with a lighter touch, I guess you know.
Well, no, to answer that is I think some people can play their role.
Like if InfoWars and Alex Jones wanted to keep his business alive and he wanted to stay on the radio and not get banned, even though he's already banned, I would say he could like tiptoe around the issue and try to tell the truth, but that's not what he does.
He's he's not just not telling the truth.
He's counter-signaling it, putting putting out contradictory information and and literally suppressing and shutting down anybody that does warn of the threat of Zionism and the control of Zionism.
How do you explain the fact that we've been banned off everything, that we have no sponsors whatsoever?
I mean, there, you know, if you look at the Daily Wire, if you look at these other publications, it's not hidden even.
Like we know how this works, right?
It's either uh blackmail or it's uh you know, financial support, and we don't get either one of those, and we've been banned, and you know, the New York attorney general is trying to get us to stop selling things to like how do you explain the immense amount of pressure that we're under from these structures of power if we are supposedly serving them?
Well, I don't think it's not like there's just one power that you're serving, you're serving uh Israeli interest with with your your narratives that you put out.
But okay, but they but are you saying these are the media and the big tech companies are not and they're going against them by banning us, or is this all just a false flag?
Like I think you guys are banned because of media hype attacking you, and honestly, honestly, I think it's because a lot of stupidity.
Jones kind of made it easy for them to uh flag him and you guys getting taken down, set the precedent for them to start really cracking down hard on everybody else.
They were censoring people before you guys, but not anybody as big.
And like a lot of it was over Sandy Hook, where Jones backpedaled everything.
If if he he should have stood behind his reporting and tried to win in court and and defend his beliefs, but instead he backed out, and then that's what took him down, being um irresponsible and saying people are crisis actors or every every event is a false flag, or being really hyperbolic and sensationalist and and being like incendiary rants and ripping his shirt off and calling you know Michelle Obama trend or a man and you know what I'm talking about.
Like you can't compare the way I act online and the way Jones acts online.
But you're not saying that because he said that stuff, you should have been kicked off the internet, right?
No, I'm not saying that.
Of course, not why so why was he?
If he's the like a shill, if he's if he's part of this, you know, controlled opposition, if you know all this sort of stuff is happening, why are we so often under the pressure of being attacked by these groups that everybody will tell you are incredibly Zionist facing?
Well, you you guys may be censored off some of the top social media companies, which lots of other people are as well, and I've been censored heavily on YouTube also.
But for a lot of the years, the the blaze isn't.
I mean, there are lots of things that you know are not, and we we know why it's because of the establishment.
Jones Jones has spoken a lot of truth over the years, and he has been a thorn in the side of uh mainstream media, but he's also acted like such a fool that he makes the whole conspiracy movement kind of look stupid and kind of gives the general public like a oh, maybe we should ban these, you know, hateful Sandy Hook uh you know parents harassers, and and I'm not saying you guys did that, but that's the narrative that they were able to spin.
And um that does, but that doesn't answer the question, like why you guys are still have your app, you're still on tons of radio stations, you've got band.video, you've got you know, dozens of probably like 50 employees, you're building new studios.
It's all organic, and it's 100% because Alex Jones set up a store where people could go and buy wonderful products like this bodies with Tumeric route that uh does wonders for your joints.
But seriously, what this is how we get all of our money.
This is how we sustain ourselves.
This is how we're able to expand our audience going out there, sharing our stuff, getting around the censorship, uh, sponsoring us, you know, supporting us, sponsoring us.
So it's like 100% organic, hundreds hundred percent real.
We would not shill this stuff so much if we didn't need to.
Like if people don't like it when we do commercials, people don't like it when we pitch stuff.
We know that.
We don't like having to do it, but we have to keep ourselves afloat, and we do that through the donation.
Don't you think if we were serving some you know wider goal of being controlled opposition or trying to make people look like would we have to do this?
Or I mean it's just it's an organic company.
I know from the inside.
I'm telling you from the inside.
I know how most of it were.
I don't know how the contracts with the radio stations work, but I know how you know things get made and things get produced and commercials get made and all this sort of stuff, and it's us doing it.
It's us, it's me, it's Owen, it's Savannah, it's Craig.
I believe we're making stuff and being supported by our fans.
So we're 100% organic and real, and we say what we think.
I mean, can you imagine if we were in any way serving the purposes of the control freaks?
Wouldn't we be like the young Turks and be on every smart TV and be on on YouTube TV and have a channel and get hundreds of millions of dollars to do that?
I just heard Jones's commercial this morning saying that you're on all these these TV stations.
Obviously, not on regular cable, but you're on something.
Yeah, so we have we have people like there's a guy in Houston uh who runs a company that services uh has you know provides cable for a large percentage of Houston, Texas.
He's a big fan, he's 90 years old.
He looks like he's 60 because he drinks apple cider vinegar all day.
He's a he's a crazy awesome dude.
He like funded Ron Paul, he's huge in the Liberty movement, and he because it's his cable network, dedicates a channel to the Ron Paul, uh Liberty Hour and InfoWars.
So if you, you know, instead of going with Comcast, you go with his cable company, um, which I'm I'm sure I can say it, but I I'll just won't just to avoid anything.
Yeah, I think that's good.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's a bit it's a big cable company, but he puts us on there because he believes in us and he does it free of charge, and we provide him the content free of charge.
And that's how it works.
No shady maneuvers, no like manipulation.
Like there are patriots out there that want to work with us.
There's patriots out there that are willing to be.
I don't know how any of this is relevant because all that I'm criticizing is the information that you're putting that Jones is putting out.
So it doesn't matter really where you're at.
This is a a side a side issue.
You how you fund you?
All right, let me let me call Tom on that.
We'll read some more.
Also, we'll take some callers.
Um, I see uh let's see, uh Scrub Lord Man.
This could be a quick answer from you both.
He says, tits or ass.
We'll start with you, Harrison.
Ass, my friend.
What about you, Adam?
I'll be a contrarian.
No, you've had to go take tits no matter what.
All right, Chromatron says, kill stream forever.
I'd have to agree with that.
Speaking of shilling, patreon.com slash the Ralph Retort, New Project 2.com slash the Ralph Retortort bonus episodes for you all.
If you pay me money, and you can see those.
Mike Hotchell says, Blonde guy does cult cuck old porn as his day job, right?
I don't believe so.
Uh shouting at Cloud says, I believe they were banned more by Big Pharma.
All right, now I have a question for Harrison.
Uh it says, despite its commitment to free speech, InfoWars has failed to be consistent in publicly defending others when they were censored, with the most prominent case being the unprecedented levels, unprecedented, excuse me, levels of censorship faced by Andrew Anglin and the Daily Stormer.
Why is this the case?
Now I've seen this argument as well.
People have come on the show and said, uh, you know, people defended Alex, but he didn't defend them, though you know, the way he should have.
Um just your answer on that, I guess.
Uh yeah, we pretty much are pre-speech, you know, purist.
We think everybody should be allowed to have a platform.
So, you know, uh just because we don't cover one particular person or not, I would say sure, Andrew England should have a uh voice, and everybody should have a voice.
Adam Green should have a voice, we should have a voice.
I mean, you know, I'm I think we're pretty pure on that.
I don't know.
Uh oh, I honestly a lot of people, you know, times will go by and I'll look back and be like, wait, a month ago, this guy got banned.
I didn't even realize.
So sometimes it just flies under the radar.
That's probably what what happened there.
All right, Adam, if you want to.
Let me just add in there that Owen did ask me to come on for a quick segment when I got uh demonetized at the Vox Apocalypse.
He also did have uh red ice on when they got censored off of YouTube, although there was a little discrepancy before that happened.
And uh Jones did give a shout out to True News and Fuentes when he was censored recently.
Yeah, and I'll and I'll say also, I mean, Harrison Smith had me on his program actually when I when I got censored, so uh by YouTube.
So I'll point that out as well.
But yeah, go ahead, Harrison.
You want to say something.
No, yeah, yeah.
We just try to literally cover anybody who who gets kicked off for an illegitimate reason, which is because of their beliefs or their ideas, not because they're actually doing something like you know, child point or something like that.
Yeah, there are limitations, obviously, but um but no, yeah.
And and it's funny because it's just the way we are, and like with Nick Fuentes, I don't agree with everything Nick says.
I agree with a lot of it, but you know, there are times you don't agree with with bacon cookies.
Yeah, I don't agree with bacon cookies.
I disimaged you in trouble with Jared Hall cookie joke.
Um we're gonna have a bake off here on the kill stream.
Anyway, sorry, I shouldn't have made that joke.
But no, but uh what'd you say?
I said we're gonna have a bake off on the kill stream.
Uh go ahead, uh go ahead, Harrison.
Well, you know, Nick Fuentes is a good example because again, I really like Nick Fuentes just personally.
I think he's a great guy.
I think he is I mean, what he's been able to do at such a young age is incredibly admirable and uh just incredible, honestly.
Really amazing stuff.
And uh we have people coming up to us, you know, saying stuff about him and saying just cra just craziness.
And it's like, guys, the more you tell us not to have somebody on, the more we want to have them on.
Like that's just how we operate.
And it's not like oh, what is what are the men up st what are the suits upstairs say?
What is the producer?
What's today's memo say about who to have?
No, no, we just cover what we want to cover.
The hosts do it, the the producers do it.
We we communicate with each other and decide what what goes up.
Nobody has leverage over anybody else, except you know, if I'm hosting the show, then I get to say what cover what what we're covering.
I get to put the videos in the full in the stuff that you cover, Jones Jones put out an article, it was from Michael Snyder, republished at InfoWars.
Ten times God punish the world for dividing uh ten times God punished America for dividing the land of Israel.
If that's not Zionist propaganda from InfoWars, and Jones was on with Corsi once, and he goes, There's a special providence for England and America for supporting the the Jews in Israel.
Like really, oh, we're gonna be blessed if we help.
Like if that's that's Zionism mantra.
Say stuff like that.
Go ahead, Harrison.
Give your response to the next question.
Yeah, go ahead.
No, we can just go to the next one.
Okay.
Uh let's see.
Uh well, let me read these.
Herbert Silvatigi says 15 seconds in Shabog Shaboskoy.
I don't know what that is.
Uh it's a link, and I have a policy of not just pulling up links because I've done that before, and uh, I don't really know what are on those links.
Uh I help I'll look at it though.
A helpful friend says, How do you feel about the right stuff?
Uh start with you, Adam.
That's uh Enoch, right?
Yes.
Uh I don't I've haven't watched the show, and I've heard a lot of criticisms about him from other people, but he's got some great takes on Twitter that I I gotta I can't deny that.
And I've been attacked too, so I don't know if I believe all the attacks that I've heard about him.
But um yeah, he's he's got some great takes on Twitter.
I'll say that.
All right, you can give an answer if you want, Harrison, or you can skip it.
It's up to you.
Uh I honestly don't know him at all.
So Beard the Butcher says something about preheating.
I'll leave that there.
Um leave that one hanging.
Yeah, I'll just leave that there.
I don't know what he means.
Uh Adam Green, this is a question for you.
Define what a gatekeeper and what a gateway are, and what are the differences between the two?
I've never heard gate gate.
What was the second one?
Gateway.
Gateway, yeah.
I haven't heard that one either.
But I guess you can't okay, just gatekeeper.
That's a defunct Dell company, I think.
I actually bought a computer from Gate.
Well, I didn't buy it, my parents did back in the 90s.
A gatekeeper is a guy that pretends like he's he's the the tip of the spear giving you the whole truth, but won't talk about the elephant in the room, which is Zionist power in America controlling both sides.
And especially Trump more than ever.
All right, do you have a answer for that?
Uh and well, let me add sorry, uh Ralph.
Someone who like won't let other people on to give, you know, they they're stand at the gate and they won't let certain information through, also.
Definition B. Do you think I guess I could turn it around this way?
Do you think InfoWars acts as a in a in a gatekeeper manner, Harrison?
Uh no, except that we have a giant platform, so anybody that we bring on will be introduced to a larger audience.
So I guess in that way, like who we decide to get on is a form of you know, allowing you have more pro-Zionist people on or more uh anti-Zionist on.
Uh what would you say is the percentage?
See, I don't know because I don't judge everybody by how they feel about Zionism, but I'll tell you like I've had you talk about Steve Pachinik.
I'm sure you think Steve Pachinick is a Mossad agent of some sort, but he was on the reason.
You do, right?
So he came from psychological operation.
Sorry.
Although he does speak a lot of truth, he spins it into still supporting Trump and Kushner.
Well, I I'm Trump, pretty sure.
Well, Steve Pachinik came on the war room, and we talked about Hezbollah is not a terrorist organization and is a militia of Lebanese people who formed to protect themselves against Israel.
Like that was over the airwaves on it.
So it's got a lot of truth, too.
But you have to tell a lot of truth.
If you're a controlled opposition, you have to be opposition.
You have to put out some.
That's not the way that we think.
We just tell the truth.
It's not like I'm gonna tell just enough truth so I can conceal this thing over here.
Like that's just a foreign way of thinking to me.
I don't think like that.
I don't think anybody in InfoWars thinks like that.
We literally just want to tell the truth.
And if it's something that is contrary to what I already believe, I consciously make the effort to go, okay.
Well, then I can't say this thing that I believed earlier because now I have proof that that that is incorrect.
So I mean, that's the way I think about things.
I'm pretty sure it's the way Owen and David and uh Alex all think about things.
It's it's not I don't know.
You and this is the frustration is it's like we get these accusations of like you're just telling, you know, literally, I will say something truthful, and the accusation is you're just saying just enough truth to cover your lies.
And it's like, how about I just said something truthful, and that's just what I said, and it's not there's no nefarious purpose behind it, it's just the reality of the situation.
I mean, uh this is the frustration that I have with people like me that are so hyper focused on one thing.
Say the same stuff to me too.
But what I was saying is Pachenik gives a lot of truth, but then he spins it in the end to still supporting Trump, which I think is uh is a problem.
All right, let's keep going.
Go ahead.
If you want to weigh in real quick, go ahead.
No, if you if you look at what Trump has done in the Middle East, it has not been to Israel's favor.
Uh, there are little things that you can talk about with the Golan Heights and all these sort of you know, little agreements and stuff.
He put forward a two-state solution if if Trump is uh being fair in the Middle East.
He's got Kushner on the peace deal.
Kushner is uh Habad Lubovich supremacist cult.
Do you know what the type of stuff the Rebbe says?
He goes and visits the Rebbe's grave, and that's the one that's doing the peace deal.
It's it's ridiculous.
It's a joke.
All right, let's keep going.
Um Harold Silvatiti says, hey Ralph, you can trust me.
When have I ever let you down?
I don't know.
Zero Gear says, Thank you though.
Zero Gear says, Who can do the best Alex Jones impression?
Then we'll take callers.
Uh we'll start with you, Harrison.
Well, I'll just say I'll I'll do the impression I always careful.
Yeah, go ahead.
No, no, I'll do the impression that I always do, and it's it's what I've said before.
And it was the first day I was at work at InfoWars, and I walked up to introduce myself to Owen Schreuer, and he was talking to Alex Jones and he was saying, I'm gonna cover this this way, I'm gonna cover this this way.
And Alex Jones just said, say whatever you want, just tell the truth.
This is Alex Jones.
Well, you are the resistance.
It's not bad, right?
I'm not too bad.
What about you, Adam?
If you want to.
I call them the Clintons in the deep state.
They're coming after Trump.
They want to take him out.
They're coming after Netanyahu too.
Kushner's a good looking guy.
He's a strong voice, they're grooming him to be president.
The Chicoms, they run Hollywood, the Muslims, they took over the Federal Reserve.
Don't listen to those Nazis in there, those anti-Semites, those leftists, they're falling for Soros, Islamist uh indoctrination, programming, brainwashing for the deep state.
Uncanny.
Shouting at Cloud says, special providence given to England is Colorado.
I don't even know what that means, but I read it.
Also, uh breaking news, uh, Trudeau's.
I guess it's breaking.
I didn't see it earlier today.
Uh Justin Trudeau's wife has tested positive for coronavirus.
Uh, so that is uh a little bit.
I'm sure she tests positive for a lot of different things.
Yeah, too many immigrants.
Uh well, no, I just about that talk that comment.
But uh, yes, um she has coronavirus.
Oh, I look so stupid.
Uh Professor Eric says, big love for Adam, smartest guy on the stream.
I would take objection with that, but uh Harry Silva C says LMO Adam won by Country Mile.
Okay.
Uh now there's another question, but I'm gonna go to the callers because I could ask questions.
Well, you know what?
I can't sit here any longer with this because I I can't stand Adam for his anti-Zionism, and I can't stand Harrison for not admitting that Hebrew Israelites are the real Jews, so I have to leave.
I have to night, Bill.
Wait, wait, you mean blackball?
Wait, you mean black Hebrew Israelites?
Because if they're just Hebrew Israelites, they're not well.
I mean, that's redundant.
I mean, black Hebrew Israelites are the only Hebrew Israelites, not these so-called Jews out there, right?
That's right.
That's right.
Thank you, Bibble.
Appreciate you checking in, man.
Yeah, thank you.
All right.
Um, so we have callers.
I'm looking through here.
Uh, you should have my boy Jake.
I was gonna do that very right off top, actually.
First caller, Jake Lloyd.
Uh worked for InfoWars.
Uh, I think he's muted though.
Uh so he'll have to unmute himself.
Uh, but we'll keep talking for a second.
Over 25.
How come Jake's blocked me on both my accounts?
Over 2500 people watching us live.
Jake Lloyd, we can hear you.
Go ahead, sir.
Hey, has my audio all right?
I'm in the car, so well, I mean, it's not great, but we can hear you.
Okay, let me.
All right, maybe that's a little bit better.
That's a lot better.
That's a lot better.
Wow.
Awesome.
Awesome.
Wait, so first, so I just wanted to join because I'm like listening to this, and by the way, I don't work at InfoWars anymore, so it's like I don't really have a dog in this fight.
I just like kind of listening to it, and it's kind of ridiculous.
What?
But wait, blocked you on both your accounts.
What do you mean?
You blocked me on Twitter.
I don't think I don't think I blocked you on Twitter.
Maybe I did.
I don't know.
I block a lot of people.
It's because the stuff you say is so ridiculous.
It's just like so kind of I mean, you know, maybe I'm being a little bit more adversarial than Harrison has been, but it's like people say stuff, and it's like when I just like when I have lived this experience, I know that it's just not true.
It gets really annoying.
I mean, like, I have literally posted videos on the InfoWars YouTube channel when we still had one, like actually talking about Jewish power and stuff, and then people will be in the comments like, how dare you shill for Israel like this?
And it's like, okay, like, you know, I'm just not gonna, and I get that on Twitter all the time.
Like, I mean, you can't blame me for some crazy trolls.
There's people online that say everybody's an agent.
They do it to me too.
You said that I'm what I'm saying is ridiculous.
What am I wrong about?
Well, you're saying that like InfoWars, for example, and Alex specifically, is like a an Israeli or Jewish propagandist like arm.
And so, I mean, like, if that's the case, then why would they hire somebody like me and allow me to talk?
I've talked probably like 15 hours worth of showtime talking about Jewish power.
I mean, like Enach, the Clean Break memo, Greater Israel, uh, the Levant affair, the Samson, every every like talking point that you can think of as far as discussing Jewish power, I've talked about it.
I've had Vince James on to talk about it.
I've had Nick Fuentis on to talk about it.
I've had Patrick, I've had all of these people on, and it's like not once did I ever even get somebody like that.
They all support Trump still.
Okay, so well, so I mean, this is a thing.
You're like presupposing that the only way that you can accurately understand the world is to say that is is the way that you do.
Oh no, ICOM running Hollywood and the Muslims running the Federal Reserve and the Zionists uh being a distraction and a scapegoat.
That's totally what's going on.
That's the narrative that Jones puts out.
You think that's reality?
Well, of course I don't agree with everything that Jones puts out in the same way that I don't agree with the thing that everybody else does.
But I'm what I'm taking issue with is the fact or the assertion that there is some kind of coordinated effort to push specific talking points.
Well, here are the talking points that come out of Jones.
Well, I like look, I like Jones, but I definitely don't agree with all the stuff that he says.
The thing is, though, is that he's not like you know, he he has a different worldview than I do in certain respects, and he believes certain things that I don't believe, but there's like no coordinated effort to say like this is what we have to push, and we have to put you know mostly truth and then salt it with lies so that people believe it.
Like, this is just ridiculous.
I mean, the the I really had slightly that.
I never said he told you guys to do that.
This is a But if it's a if it's an Israeli Jewish propaganda agency, then why would they allow people to come on and say things not only that just are not pushing that agenda, but things that are explicitly contrary and contradictory to that worldview?
Why would they allow that?
Why does he hire he he hired Jerome Corsi, who is a huge Zionist from the from the CMP and used to work at WorldNet Daily?
He hired that's that was the DC bureau chief that he was gonna have.
He taught he joked about or or told Laura Loomer he was gonna hire her several times.
Okay, but to say that but to say that hiring somebody who happens to be a Zionist makes it a Zionist propaganda agency means that for them to hire me or somebody like Harrison, even would be them would prove them to be like an anti-Zionist propaganda agency.
That argument just doesn't hold up.
We actually have your coverage of of these issues, but you're not there anymore either.
And I've been watching InfoWars for 11 years now, and I've seen the way he responds to when callers call in and bring up Israel.
I've seen the information he puts out.
I see the guest he used to have and the guest he has now.
And anybody that's followed it like I has or has seen all the videos I've got up on my playlist on the channel, just it's the proof is in the pudding.
Okay, but judge a tree by its fruits and the fruits coming from Jones is all Zionist propaganda.
Well, maybe maybe Jones has like certain personal opinions about things, but what I'm saying, and again, like I don't have a dog in the fight as far as like I have to defend info wars.
Like I'm not, like I clearly take issue with a lot of the things that go on there, like as far as things that they like bully, we just have big differences, them and I, in certain areas.
But what I'm taking issue with is this idea that it is like a propaganda outlet, or that it is that they're shilling for a certain purpose.
That's all that I you know, and and I don't want to take up too much time.
I know there's other callers and stuff, but I just wanted to jump in and like put that out there from somebody who's not even there anymore.
Well, I appreciate you jumping in, and I meant to I lost my phone in DC, but I don't already talk to you about coming on the show, so we'll set that up later.
Uh but yeah, I appreciate you jumping in.
You got anything else real quick to add or uh no, I think that's about it.
Like I said, I don't want to take too much time, but yeah, thanks for uh bringing me on for a minute.
Thank you, Mr. Lloyd.
I appreciate it, sir.
All right, appreciate it.
You guys have a good one.
All right, Adam, you want to respond real quick, and then we're gonna run through a lightning round here.
Oh, I thought I did respond.
Okay, so you're good.
Is there something hanging there?
Not really, but uh yeah, that's just my obligatory stance just to make sure.
I thought I was interrupting him the whole time.
Nah, nah, that's well, I mean, but you know, I'm the moderator, so I always try to say, Oh, do you want to say anything else?
You know, thank you.
So easy.
A caveman can do it.
Baron Von Ass celebrating that name cracks me up.
Is he talking about me?
I look like the the uh the Anatol in the case man.
I believe he was, yes.
Uh when I put on the shirt, I thought the same thing to be honest.
Enemy media 14 says Jake's video about the JQ never aired.
He's BSing.
I don't have any knowledge about that, so I can't comment one way or the other.
They paid me to say that.
So I don't have a position on that.
All right, let's uh keep going.
Pepto Bismal, you're on the kill stream.
Adam Green versus Harrison Smith.
No.
Yeah, so uh I'll I'll be quick.
I noticed uh so for well, first off, most importantly, to get this out there before I get hit off, is that uh Alex Jones, he is a knight of Malta.
Uh back in like 2008 for how long, if you were to ever to post uh Knights of Malta, anything referring to that exposing Alex Jones as Knight of Malta on InfoWars, it would get immediately censored.
That was one of the only things that ever get immediately removed.
Uh second off, I noticed uh glasses go.
I kept saying over and over again every time that uh you point something out about or the other guy would point something out about Alex Jones where he fucked up or something.
The guy's like, yeah, well, I didn't do that.
Well, how come I'm here and all this shit?
Well, the whole point of having good controlled opposition is that you hire real people and then have them working for you.
It's um what's the word?
Useful idiots to run the operation to seem good and all that, and then you only you or whoever's in the inner circle in the know gets to go out and actually have the what uh push the actual agenda, which is why Alex Jones won't talk about the Jews, Or I mean whoever uh but these guys can because that's the whole point.
They can get rid of these guys immediately.
They're expendable.
Alex Jones, they need him because he's part of uh like how David Icke, he's part of externalization, externalizing the hierarchy.
The whole point of it is that you put someone in place, tell them 95% of the truth and sprinkle in five percent of the lie to weave in your agenda or whatever agenda you're working towards.
Thank you, Cosmos.
There you go.
I appreciate it.
Any comments uh on that?
Uh no, I mean that uh doesn't really make any sense because uh I mean useful idiots that's not where that comes from.
It's uh that was a communist thing, but um I get to say whatever I want, and uh no one ever tells me what to say or doesn't say, so great great theory, I guess.
Let's see if you start criticizing Zionism on the regular, if if anything happens.
I I don't see that this is I don't criticize Zionism, I don't criticize Jews, I don't criticize blacks, I don't criticize Hispanics, I criticize the action of individuals, so or or networks of individuals or influence or whatever.
Um so that's just the way that I am.
So you know, call me a useful idiot if you want, but that's just a belief that I have as an eighth-generation Texan and American that uh it's being an American is the most important thing, and if you're against that, then you're against me, and if you're for that, then you're for me, and doesn't matter who you are, uh or or what you do uh in your spare time.
I will say I am still a libertarian, as unpopular as that is becoming.
I still love liberty.
I will say this before I let Adam get in that I was kind of surprised at how readily you agree to this uh debate.
Like uh there was no convincing needed, like you kind of just jumped into it, and um so I'll uh I'll give you credit.
I mean, because you're carrying the InfoWars banner, obviously, because you work for them and stuff.
So I was kind of like, well, wow.
Well, and that's the same thing.
I mean, you're speaking, you're speaking for yourself, of course.
But you know what I mean?
But just by virtue of working for them, though, right?
But I don't have to, but that's but that's the thing.
I don't cover up either way.
I'm not a Zionist and I pretend not to be, and I'm not an uh an anti-Semite and I pretend not to be.
I just have these beliefs because and you know, honestly, it I really I wonder, Adam.
Do you are you friends with any Jewish people?
And I don't mean to be condescending, but I really want to know like if you've ever spent extended periods of time with Jewish people.
Uh just a few online, like and not spending time with them.
But no, I mean there's not in my real life, no.
Yeah, so so let me explain why I say that.
There wasn't like the they go to their own Jewish schools and Hebrew school.
There wasn't like uh the I don't even know any Jewish people that went to my high school.
Yeah, that's fine.
And I'm not I'm not blaming you, I'm not saying you know, that's it's not this isn't a got you like I'm I was just wondering because I honestly believe this maybe dangerous for me to say, but like I would probably be much more in line with the way that you think if I didn't have personal experiences where I grew up in Houston, there's a neighborhood called Meyerland that's very Jewish.
Most of my a lot of my friends grew up there, and um, so it's like if you grow up with somebody and you play you play on the same baseball teams and you're in the same school and you're going after the same girls, and like you grow up with this person, and I've I've been to Jewish weddings and funerals and bought mitzvahs and bar mitzvahs, and here it is, guys.
It's not no no.
I'm not I'm not Jewish, but it's like if you just see these people as you say you were Jewish.
No, I know, but that's that's always the accusation.
But like if you see these people as something other, as something like that you only read about in headlines when you are you know are are finding out who's Jewish and who's not, like it would be easy to under to think that they are all a certain way or whatever.
But the reality is that these people, Jewish people, are often more conservative than I am, or like more extreme in their conservatism.
They are just regular people who this is the same argument you keep going back to, and I say I don't paint with a broad brush.
And you said that like it's it's me d making them the other.
That's what Judaism is all about segregation, separation, us versus them differentiating between Jew and non-Jew.
So that that's their thing.
And obviously, I don't you know see uh a Jewish person out, you know, at the store and just think like, oh, they're probably evil and and want to rule the world.
I don't think like that.
Uh that's but if they're in power presenting what I cover on my channel.
All right.
But if they're in power, they do.
Like I don't know.
It's just it's just a understanding of the thing.
You don't think Sheldon Adelson is like a Zionist first traitor that's openly buying our politicians and subverting America?
Sure, but Bernie Sanders.
Why doesn't Jones talking about it?
Where's the bigger threat than the billionaire that dies off the president?
Like what?
Bernie Sanders putting forth bills to ban usury and like is doing all these things that would destroy the banking system and you know all this other stuff.
It's just not as simple as they're Jewish or they're not, they're Zionist or they're not.
It's a it's just a multi multifaceted reality.
Sometimes they are, sometimes they're not.
That's that's just a side issue.
It's it's gonna be irrelevant to to what I cover.
All right, let's roll through these callers.
I I mean if you guys are cool um with it, I had only slated it for 90 minutes, but um because an hour's not enough.
We've done an hour blood sports, it just never works out.
The the stick thing uh with E. Michael Jones, I mean I enjoyed the show, but it was almost like uh, you know, there was more there, and we didn't get to it.
So that's why I slated it for 90 minutes.
There are some callers.
I'm gonna try to run through them quickly.
I've tried that before.
Uh we'll see how that goes.
Fish and soil, lightning round, go.
Uh on the air, Alex Jones said he wanted to raise uh the alcohol when it's for drinking and driving.
Do you support this?
I support that.
Yes, I support that.
1000%.
I support that, and I want to start the hashtag.
Anyway, go ahead.
Uh yeah, sure.
Why not?
Jones spun his arrest into uh a rant against mothers against drug driving, and there's a big conspiracy to arrest everybody for DUIs when they're not drunk.
Well, hey, they are kind of pieces of shit, though, to be honest with you.
Yeah, they are kind of pieces of shit.
He did.
He also lied, Harrison.
You know that the all the news coming out proves that he lied about his explanation of what happened.
All right.
That's his personal busiest.
I'm not gonna make it.
We'll leave that there.
Yeah, I was gonna say we'll leave it, we'll leave that there.
That's that's not really fair.
But again, fuck fuck all that shit.
Fuck mothers against drum runner.
I shouldn't say that, maybe.
All right, let's keep going.
Johnny, X Johnny, you're on the kill stream, but you're muted, sir.
So I hope you uh unmute yourself.
It's fine.
There you go.
Go.
Lightning round, go.
All right.
Uh I'm just gonna say I don't care about the Jews.
I'd say we should uh blast China.
Fuck them.
Spaceman, you're on the kill stream lightning round, go.
Hey.
Hey, um I just want to have a question for uh both of you guys.
Uh are you familiar with John Mark and propertyism?
No.
I'm not.
Oh, it's some good stuff, just basically solutions to the problems in this country.
But anyways, good stuff.
That's all I have to say.
Thank you, sir.
I appreciate it.
You're better, much better than the last caller, I have to admit.
Uh Cook, you're on the kill stream.
Go ahead.
It's live, ladies and gentlemen.
I can't control that.
Go ahead, Cook.
You're on the kill stream.
Go ahead.
I don't know.
I have a question for um Mr. Harrison Smith here.
Okay, give it.
Have you ever read the Talmud?
You're friends with them?
They consider you cattle.
They hate you, and they are in a race war to make you extinct in the next hundred years.
Uh yes, I have uh read large large chunks of the Talmud before.
But yeah, that's uh something you would think if you didn't grow up them.
I totally and Jones will criticize Islam all day.
When does he ever criticize the Talmud and Jewish supremacy?
Good question, right?
I don't know question.
But thank you, caller.
Appreciate that.
Oh man.
Okay.
Some of these callers I don't trust necessarily.
But uh Southern Dingo can at least keep it under control.
Uh go ahead, Dingo.
Uh great, absolutely great debate, Ralph.
Thank you.
You know what?
Uh and I'll uh the that one caller threw me off.
I'm not going to lie to uh the audience.
It's pretty obvious.
But uh I thought this has been a great debate, actually.
Yeah, all the way through, yeah.
Absolutely.
Um I just wanted to ask each guest.
Well, can I first say to Adam, Adam?
Uh I I actually had a lot of bad opinions of you coming into this thing, and I've got to say they're all gone.
So uh I was really glad to get to hear hear your thoughts on a lot tonight.
Um, not that you give us yet what I think, but I'll just let you know anyways.
Um would each of the guests say this following sentence.
Blacks rape more than whites.
I just kind of want to see if they're willing.
It's up to the guests.
I'm just I'm just the host, of course, but uh yeah, I I don't know that the thank you.
I'm gonna kill myself now, but I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
Let's just move on.
Will Heron, my friend from El Paso, Texas, actual journalist, uh well, a legend, I don't know.
However, you wanted to find it.
He he actually does do journalism.
Good guy.
He's muted though, so I I'm starting to wonder if he realizes the um complexities of live television here.
I think it's funny that Southern Dingo said that he had bad opinions of me, but like this debate changed his mind as if this debate is anything different than all the other videos I ever do.
I think that's interesting.
Will Heron, sir, speak.
Oh, poor Will.
All right.
Well, we'll have to keep moving.
He might have been he might have had a little bit of too much of the sauce there.
Maybe, I don't know.
Professor Eric, go please, God, don't make me ban you, but go ahead.
I had a question for Harrison.
Um he said earlier that uh Trump had a lot of policies that were negative for Israel, and he brought up uh that he suggested a two-state solution.
Um how do you see the solution that was proposed as detrimental to Israel's interest?
Uh well, I don't really, except that uh it's it's more the way that he's been able to put off being further embroiled into the Middle East.
And like when he first bombed Syria way back when, when he was first president, that was like a heart sinking, like, oh my god, he fell for it, like we're going to war sort of thing.
Turned out to be a well orchestrated publicity stunt essentially that kept us out of a war that basically everybody else in power has been trying to get us into for uh a very long time.
So I just think uh you know, when you look at Trump, you have to look at what he says and what his actions are.
His actions for the most part have been to have been America first, except that he loves Israel and wants to give them a ton of money.
And uh, you know, it you know it it's it's almost like stuff there's almost a divide just on on the right in general, where it's half people that are like they love Israel because they want to have the same sort of control over their population that Israel has over theirs.
Where I'm on the other end of the spectrum where I have no problem with Israel except when except that they have no regard for freedom or their neighbors or anything like that.
And so I think it's weird and creepy to have DNA tests to determine if you're a citizen.
I think it's weird to lock up your neighbors and and you know put walls around them and you know measure uh who comes in and who's out.
That's all I'm saying.
How about they want to destroy Edom and end Christianity and rule the world according to their prophecies and have us be their slaves?
Yeah, a lot of people do.
I don't necessarily put too much uh credence into their um prophecies because I think the most prophecies have been fulfilled with Jesus, and uh, you know, the the main prophecy that people are trying to fulfill right now, as I understand it, is the basically the first prophecy, the first promise that Satan made to Eve,
where he said, you know, serve me and you will be as gods, and I think right now the people that are in charge think that they're very close to achieving immortality through science or cloning or um you know artificial intelligence, and I think they're trying to set up a world in which they have a class of people that will live forever, and that technology, that ability for endless life will be doled out to those who serve them, and all the rest of them will die.
In s you know, and in doing so would fulfill the promise of Satan of being gods themselves amongst Earth, and I think that's the primary uh direction that we're moving.
I think you know, if you want to look at where we're headed, you can look at Brave New World and see how that uh society operates.
And I think it has less to do with um actual prophecies being fulfilled as it does with the prophecies being useful tools for people to manipulate um those who subscribe to them.
All right.
Um I think that's the last caller.
I uh there are a few more callers, but uh well gunshine out.
Yeah, I'm gonna be a little more careful now, ladies and gentlemen.
You know how it goes.
I I don't recognize some of those names, and uh one of them already got me, so it is what it is.
It's live.
Uh I think Adam called it uh called it neatly when he said it was uh ADL trying to get you trying to get you kissed.
I think actually honestly, and that I'm really mad about that.
Um but there's nothing I can do about it.
So um I think this is the the wrap-up portion, and I forget who I let off with.
Gator, do you remember?
It was Adam, I think.
Okay.
Well, then I'll uh if I let off with him, uh, I guess I'll lead off with him here and let Harrison get the last word.
Go ahead, Adam.
I think you should try to cover more of the Zionist stuff, more the Adelson, and see what happens there working at InfoWars.
Ten years ago, Jones would say Zionist fingerprints are all over 9-11.
He would say that Israel are the kings of black male, and that narrative has completely changed.
Now he says he's pro-Israel, he shills for Trump who's the biggest Zionist president, and he says he agrees with 95% of what David Horowitz says.
Stuff like that.
Um I think Roger Stone coming along is highly suspicious in his connections with Roy Cohn and all of his lobbying for Nexium and swinger ads and living with the madam in New York and him coming along from Trump's you know, association with Trump and getting you guys to jump on board and be lapdogs for Trump.
I find that very disturbing.
And uh I just I really wish that Jones would come clean and admit, at least have an honest debate and have a real debate with somebody about Zionism.
Admits, you know, he's obviously not doing well in his personal life right now.
I hope he hits rock bottom, comes clean, admits he was wrong, and uh, and we can actually f fight the subversion and the takeover, the conquering that's happening with Zionism in our country right now, marching us towards uh a Zionist dystopian end times prophecy, technocratic uh and uh you know, nightmare.
Uh also I see Southern Digo says, please tell Adam he should have asked me why I didn't like him before while I was on.
I'd have told him, well, it's a lost opportunity.
May I'm sure Adam will be back.
I'm sure Harrison will be back.
I hope Harrison will be back.
Um Harrison, you got the final words, sir.
Okay, yeah.
Uh thanks for having me on.
This has been uh really fun.
I've been wanting to do this for a while because uh Adam Green annoys me on Twitter, and I've wanted to actually hated me before I debated Owen.
You're like Adam Green, I hate that guy.
But you know what?
This has been a very civil conversation, to be honest with you.
But but I was kind of surprised.
I mean, it was still hated.
You both got your your points out, but it was pretty civil all the way through.
Is Jones watching?
Probably I mean, come on, no.
He's having a big bullet till he was a goofy and some zombie.
Uh but yeah, go ahead.
Go ahead, Harrison.
Finish up, man.
Uh, sure.
Uh here's what I'll say.
Alex Jones and InfoWars has been one of the most powerful weapons array against the enemy of globalism uh that the world has ever seen.
You've seen the results of it in getting Trump elected, even if you think he's a Zionist puppet.
I moved to the show.
Trump was a Zionist in the game, wait, wait, wait, Zionists.
You can't you can't interrupt the final statement.
You can't don't do that.
Go ahead, Harrison.
I I've actually lost my train of thought.
But um you're fighting the globalists.
It's been uh yeah, yeah.
Well, definitely uh Alex Jones and InfoWars has been a massive positive uh movement in terms of waking people up, getting them aware that they're not being told the whole story in the media, uh getting them to look into things that are being hidden from them.
It's been an absolute uh positive force.
I also had reservations before I started working there.
I'm just telling you from a first person view of somebody who is uh completely disinterested in any sort of power movements or manipulation or anything like that that I can tell you from the inside, it is as pure of an operation as you could ever possibly have with complete freedom of uh thought and speech and uh subject and uh talking points.
None of it is decided by anybody except for the person you're seeing, say it to The camera.
I speak without a teleprompter.
I speak off the cuff.
I cover whatever the hell I want, however I want, and it's fine because as a Christian, nobody watches.
I love everyone, and uh I believe everyone deserves freedom, and everybody yearns for freedom, and those who are uh attempting to destroy it, whether it's because of they see themselves as ethnic supremacist or because they think that they'll be destroyed if they don't, whatever the reasons.
I don't care.
I'm against tyranny in all forms uh over every uh over anybody.
That's how I am.
That's why I've been able to work at InfoWars.
We've been an incredible good uh force for good, as have people like Roger Stone, and for it, we have had upon attack upon attack.
We've been kicked off of everything.
I've personally had Twitter's, you know, Twitter accounts deleted, uh, YouTube accounts deleted.
Roger Stone has had his life destroyed because he's been fighting against the forces of evil, the forces of globalism, the forces that would seek to uh destroy our institutions, destroy our heritage, and uh you know, m rule over us as as uh as tyrants.
So these are the people that are fighting the good fight that have done a lot of good, and to attack them endlessly with very small amounts of out of context evidence, I think is uh not just a overall negative for uh our movement, the movement for human freedom, the movement for nationalism and uh libertarianism are just self, you know, um uh self-autonomy.
Uh and the the proof is in the pudding.
We have had incredible success.
Our audience is the best audience in the entire world and has supported us every step of the way.
We have no you know, I I just don't I don't I don't even know what to say.
It's just these people have done incredible things, they've had their lives destroyed or attempted to be destroyed and been attacked on every angle, and it frustrates me to no end that people who agree with us 99% still spend 50% of their time attacking us uh because they don't agree 100% with what we say.
And as a final note, I will say that this um uh this uh debate that we're having has been brought to you by Brainforce Plus.
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Harrison Smith, Adam Green, one of the best blood sports we've ever had here on the kill stream.
Thank you both for joining me this evening and joining Gator and Bibble as well.
You guys have a good day.
It's good to talk to you, Adam.
Thank you.
Thanks, guys.
Farewell.
All right, that was good.
That was really good, actually.
Even better than I thought it would be.
Let me read these because they paid me.
Potato Pop says, and that's BTFO'd DR3 while swearing they cover the JQ.
Uh Kill Moose Kill says scuffed Daniel Bryan beat this jabroni like a mule.
Uh let's see.
Uh shouting at Cloud says, has InfoWars ever done an article on the Jedi Cloud.
I don't know.
I didn't get to ask that, so I apologize.
But that was you know, by the way, my bad for sneezing into the microphone.
Yeah, you know what?
That was another thing.
So they're like, oh, Ralph's snorting a line.
No, that was actually Gator sneezing.
That was you can see my icon pop up.
Yeah, it was not me.
Obviously, they're fucking with me, of course, but when are they not?
Terry J says, Hey, studio I can.
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Uh let's see, Herbert Silva TC says, Harrison shield better than PJW on the Neuroforce.
I didn't expect the the ad there at the end, and that was uh pretty hilarious.
I have to give credit where credit is due.
Also, something we didn't bring up.
We talked about it, but we didn't actually pull it up.
This is Harrison Smith.
Compared to David Caresh.
There on the screen, and uh I have to say the similarities are pretty striking, Gator.
Can you see that?
Oh, yeah, I can see it now.
You know, that is interesting.
That is interesting.
That is very I mean.
I don't know.
You know, I'm not a big conspiracy guy myself, uh, but uh it's pretty close.
Uh physiognomy or whatever the fucking word is there.
Uh there's other stories.
I have some cue the unsolved mystery music.
I love you know what that music used to scare the fuck out of me when I was a kid.
Uh there's some more stuff.
Uh like JF did a set for an interview with CBS News, shockingly.
He got pilloried and embarrassed.
Uh I was originally gonna play that tonight.
It wasn't just JF they were going after.
They were going after other people like Fuentes and stuff too, even though Fuentes doesn't care for JF.
We'll probably do that tomorrow night instead because I'd rather go through it thoroughly.
Yeah.
Jeff was the only person who actually sat down.
And they make a point to like emphasize that.
It was like we tried to reach out to all of these evil internet Nazis, but only one evil internet Nazi would sit down with us.
And I'm like JF you fucking idiot.
Just because you fuck retards doesn't mean you should be one.
I see Ursus saying play it.
We're going to play it tomorrow to be honest with you.
I want to go through it all and if I did it now it would be short shrift and it's not fair.
I mean this was the main event.
This was the program.
And I wasn't just blowing smoke.
I did think that was one of the better blood sports we've ever had.
So I appreciate both those gentlemen for coming on.
There was a couple we'll go through it thoroughly tomorrow.
Don't worry about that.
And if you don't if you want to watch it go watch it first but we will go through it tomorrow.
I do I am proud of my APAC tweet.
Which I thought that was excellent actually.
Metalhead Martyr says Harrison Smith was the last minute advertisement the legend also Adam kept interrupting in my opinion he did interrupt a few times and I tried to control that.
But I think both guests for the most part were on their best behavior.
We can't say the same for every caller but uh I I thought it was good.
I thought it was civil and yeah you know they're fired up there was some interruptions here and there but uh Harold Silvatiji plays says play Pelosi Shabbos Goy clip I actually could play that since I did bring it up that's relevant.
I'll pull it up it's already in there let's hit it right now.
When my I before I was even born my father was in the Congress of the United States Thomas Delasandro Jr.
He was a okay let's hear it for dad he was as a little boy uh little teenager a shabba Goy so he spoke he spoke yiddish so as he grew up in that and he was an orator he was a great speaker and all the rest and he had a love for the idea of a Jewish state in what was then called Palestine.
So when he was older and he went uh to Congress this was hit one of his big issues he worshipped at the shrine of Franklin Roosevelt he was a New Deal Democrat.
He worshipped at the shrine of Franklin Roosevelt I disagreed with him on two very strong points one was on the treatment of Jewish people in Europe that he wanted to call more attention to second the establishment of a Jewish state in what was then known as Palestine.
It's still known as Palestine you fucking cunt anyway sorry I shouldn't say that I don't have to wear the moderator hat now though you fucking bitch anyway Shabbos Goy.
She literally did and that was at APAC by the way anyway I want to thank Harrison Smith.
I want to thank Adam Green.
I thought it was great.
I uh oh there's a couple here actually on the stream elements uh nemesis prime says info wars makes conspiracy movement look bad questioned and Jewish conspiracies would make it look would make it look great right totally not radioactive LMO pandemonium says Adam is autistic about Israel there's nothing Harrison could say that would be critical of anything if it wasn't against Zionism I think that's it.
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