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	Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
	Adam Green here with no more news dot org.
	It is November 19th, 2019.
	And joining me today, my guest, political commentator who doesn't shy away from Sacred Cows and controversial issues.
	He's uh outspoken on Twitter and YouTube.
	A good follow.
	My guest, Ramsey Paul.
	Gonna be talking about this.
	Hey guys.
	Thanks for being here, Ramsey.
	Man, it's so cool.
	You you've been on Happy Homelands, remember?
	That was wonderful.
	You're a great guest.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	I've been wanting to get you on for a while.
	I was on Happy Homelands uh a few months ago, and I'm glad to finally get you on.
	I feel like we got some uh the time is right.
	It is.
	Boy, there's so much is happening now.
	It's just uh it feels exciting.
	It's you know, the impeachment, although I'm not really following that much, but this like civil war that's really happening in the uh conservative movement, and a lot of that includes people that have been on our shows like Happy Homelands.
	Uh Nick Fuentes has been a guest in Happy Homelands, and so is Michelle Mawkins.
	So it's it's really quite interesting what's happening on the right right now.
	Yeah, some of our uh some some of uh some people are causing some serious uh waves.
	What's your take on the your summary of the whole group groper wars?
	I I I I think it's interesting.
	It's something that the conservative is Michelle Mocking calls it they didn't expect because they're expecting a challenge from the left.
	The left is ignoring that because they really don't challenge they believe in basically the same thing as the left, except maybe well, we're against socialism or something like that.
	But the the core cultural issues and foreign policy issue issues, uh that they're kind of the same.
	And so these people gripers, and they're just young people, they're they're not part of any organization or anything.
	They were asking Charlie Kirk some very difficult questions that shouldn't be that difficult.
	Like uh, if you had to choose between Israel and the United States, a policy, uh, what would you do?
	That is American Patriots.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, you you are masking your anti-Semitism with the First Amendment with that question.
	Disavow that.
	Yeah, and and it's interesting because all these questions are valid questions, and you would think because these guys get paid lots of money.
	Uh Nick Fuentes, I thought said that Charlie Kirk, this could be wrong.
	So this is a fact.
	I heard he's making like 800,000 a year or something outrageous.
	So when you're making that much money, you gotta be, you know, uh, on the talking points.
	You gotta be crisp.
	We used to call that in business.
	You know how to answer questions, and you should be able to answer that question.
	I could they pay me that much, I can answer that question to make it sound good, but they really don't have an answer, so they've decided to act like the left and call the people, they don't answer the questions, they just call the people that ask the questions.
	They're a racist, anti-Semite, uh Holocaust denier.
	Uh they just throw all out all the the bad things.
	Nazi, you know, you got it.
	And so they're they're trying to shut down debate on these fundamental questions about foreign policy and about immigration, and also about some of the culture war stuff like gay marriage and so forth.
	Yeah, it's amazing how uh all of their tactics have backfired.
	They wanted to uh shut down the QA at UCLA, and that backfired for Don Jr.
	The ZOA called for Nick to be deplatformed off of all the internet uh along with their proxy Sebastian Gorka and look at how that backfired.
	Now Nick is on the center of Drudge saying Front to Fuentes rising, and uh they basically just his stream went from having like two to three thousand people to like over ten thousand people, and the super chats are rolling in.
	They've made him a huge star by uh instead of just asking a couple qu or answering a few questions that you know they have these BS responses that they could do that they've rehearsed and scripted a million times.
	They should have just gone with with that playbook.
	Yeah, and I if Nick, I I really love him.
	I've had him on my show, and uh he's a guy that I think we may not agree on everything, but he's Got integrity.
	He was part of that whole Ben Shapiro and that little girl that sold out to the left, uh Casey Dillon.
	And he was part of that gang.
	And he could he was kind of being groomed to be part of the mainstream conservatives, but he really wouldn't go along with this whole thing, like, oh, we got to put Israel first.
	And he couldn't do that.
	He's a good Catholic.
	And I admire his stand.
	And so it's good.
	Yeah, he's getting a lot of publicity.
	Of course, I uh he's smart, and I hope he realized what they're trying to do, though, is put him in to make him the new uh Richard Spencer.
	They're trying to say that he's the new alt-right 2.0.
	So they're trying to set him up as a villain.
	But hopefully he's smart enough to not fall into that trap.
	But I think that's what they're trying to do right now with him.
	Yeah, he didn't take the trip to Israel, which is not very common.
	He took he took the hard road where uh instead of being propped up by a conservative ink, and I've noticed that too.
	I'm concerned about this, and I've been saying it for a while, is that the way they're kind of propping him up as the figurehead and the poster boy, it's dangerous because then they could just, you know, he's didn't he didn't start these ideas, and he's not gonna uh you know, they didn't these ideas and questions didn't begin with him and they're not gonna end with him.
	So they feel like they could just put out these uh threads showing these little clips about how they say he's evil, but you know, that's really just one person.
	And in this these questions are a lot bigger than just uh Nick Fuentes and the Grupers.
	Yeah, and that's a strategy.
	It goes back to the 60s.
	Uh, who's the guy that wrote the rules for radicals?
	I'm forgetting his name right off the top of the city.
	Solinsky.
	Yeah, he said what you want to do is you want to personalize it and you want to freeze and isolate that person, and that's what they try to do.
	The original alt right was not just about Richard Spencer, included a lot of different ideas, but they were able to make it all about Richard Spencer, and then they were able to attack him, and then when he fell or fell short, they're able to discredit the whole movement.
	So they're trying to do the same thing with Nick Fuentes.
	Uh Nick's smart, though.
	I think he's actually smarter than Richard.
	And not that Richard's dumb, but Nick is very talented.
	And Nick, he's sort of like a Ben Shapiro.
	He's got that ability to talk fast like this, you know.
	He's a Ben Shapiro, he's a gifted speaker, and he's got a ton of confidence as well.
	Yeah, he he talks fast like Ben Shapiro, but he's actually smarter than Ben Shapiro.
	Ben Shapiro's actually not that smart, but he talks really fast like this, and then blah, blah, blah.
	And so it kind of, you know, when you talk fast like that, you can kind of uh BS some people.
	But Nick's is actually knows what he's talking about.
	And these questions are valid, and he's getting support from people like Michelle Mockin, and God bless her, because she's got over two million Twitter followers.
	She's mainstream.
	She spoke at CPAC, and she uh was on Happy Homeland.
	Uh I did not invite her.
	She asked if she could be on.
	She's a fan, and she's uh uh a really uh great woman that's willing and able to stand up for what she believes in.
	She's an American patriot.
	And so I think that's helping too to have that uh mainstream support for or the at least the conservative mainstream support.
	Of course, now they're trying to attack uh Michelle Mock in saying that she's a white supremacist Nazi, which is kind of ridiculous.
	She's a uh his um Asian, right?
	I think she's Vietnamese, I'm not sure her ancestry, but but that's what they're trying to do.
	And uh Fuentes, he's trying to deflect that thing by saying, Oh, I'm a Hispanic, I'm a Latino, which is kind of not really, Nick, you're not really, but he's trying to use that too.
	So we'll see, but uh I don't know if that will be of any help um because it's kind of strange because so far all these white supremacists tend not to be white anymore.
	It's kind of interesting how that is.
	That you would you say they don't turn out to be white.
	Yeah, like they you remember they had that uh hearing uh that uh Jerry Nadler, okay.
	He's this corpulent and for you guys in Rio Lander, that means fat uh Jewish guy that's a Jewish nationalist, and he had this white nationalist hearing uh with no sense of irony, even though he's a nationalist for his people.
	And they had like everyone talking about white nationalists when they had the white nationalists give their point of view, disclaimer, I'm not a white nationalist, but when they got the white nationalists to give their point of view, they brought out Candace Owens as his black lady.
	It was so bizarre that works for Dennis Prager, a Jewish nationalist.
	Yeah, it is hilarious.
	And then they had some other uh Jewish guy on he was a nice man, but he had Teresh syndrome.
	It was the funniest thing.
	And uh that's the circus that we live in now.
	So uh but you know, because this isn't the uh the idea of nationalism and protecting our country, it's just not a white thing, as other people are concerned about that too.
	So it's not really about white nationalism, it's about nationalism in general, having a common heritage, language, culture.
	It's not so much about ethnic purity and all that BS.
	So it is sort of interesting how that is.
	And it's an interesting dynamic, as I'm sure you know, because the official Republican position seems to be that you must be you must support Jewish nationalism.
	You must support Israel.
	That's it, you can't be a conservative.
	Your number one priority has got to be supporting Israel, uh, ethnostate for the Jewish people, but you also have to oppose it for any other group.
	That seems to be their position, which is of course an a weak position, it's a double standard, normal people can see it.
	So that's why I pound at that position.
	And they really don't have an answer when you ask them why do you hold these two separate positions?
	Uh, they can just call all they do is call you a Nazi or whatever.
	Yeah, I was gonna bring that up.
	You're all your tweets pointing out the hypocrisy and the double standard that they uh you know, you have to support Zionism, otherwise you're a Nazi.
	But if you say if you just don't hate yourself and you're a white person, you're also considered a white supremacist.
	And it's funny that the head of Zionist Organization of America was at the congressional hearings against white nationalism.
	So white nationalism.
	So a foreign Jewish nationalist is there here in America, uh, you know, attacking uh white people that don't just they're just basically America first, they're tired of all these slave shills to Israel, and they don't want to see the country drastically changed by a deliberate uh communist uh Zionist agenda.
	Yeah, I mean it's interesting.
	I mean, I'm and and I think you saw my tweet and you probably had an issue with it because or I did a video, right?
	So I'm not against Zionism as a concept where the Jewish people have a homeland.
	I just think everyone has that right.
	Like the Finns, they have a right for Finland to remain Finnish, whereas the official position is oh no, no, no, we gotta pour all these Africans into Finland.
	We can't let it remain Finland Finnish, otherwise that would be racist.
	Uh but these same people that say that are very insistent that Israel remained Jewish.
	So it's a double standard, it's a weak double standard that they can't really defend, so that's why I hit a hit them on it constantly.
	Yeah, I don't know if did anybody ask that question.
	There was a lot of questions.
	I didn't hear much of uh the Grupers at these events, and there's still opportunities, but I didn't hear a lot about APEC or Sheldon Adelson and uh about this uh double standard of Jewish national nationalism versus quote unquote white nationalism.
	Yeah, and I I would stay away from the whole white nationalism label because I'm not a white nationalist.
	I think nationalism is more than race.
	It's just smear derogatory smears now.
	Right.
	Right, it is because I just like black nationalism or Asian nationalism.
	Uh, you know, Asians, the Japanese really don't like the Chinese, they're separate people, so you don't have Asian nationalists, you have nationalism for countries, and that's how I look at it.
	And so I I think it's important to stay away from the white nationalist label because I I don't believe in it number one, and it's now kind of a smear.
	Uh but they also conflate that with white supremacism, which um used to I'd say I didn't really know anyone that was a white supremacist, and then the leaked audio from Richard Spencer came out.
	That was like, well, this is cringy.
	Yeah, I was gonna ask you about that because you mentioned Spencer.
	That was one of my questions.
	What's your take on the leaked audio?
	Well, that that I I guess I'm not surprised.
	It's just unfortunate.
	I I don't like I I mean, I don't have anything against Spencer.
	I I spoke at his events years ago.
	I think he's an intelligent man.
	I think he's very interesting.
	Most people bore me.
	Richard Spencer does not bore me.
	That's a good thing.
	He's articulate, he has got great ideas, but he's got some character flaws.
	And uh one of those is he's I everyone's narcissistic.
	I am if you're on video, you're you're sort of somewhat narcissistic.
	That's just how it is.
	But he takes it to a different level.
	And you know, when he was saying that he ruled the F and world, and everyone should, you know.
	I'm like, yeah, Richard Richard, you can't even have a you can't even get to Europe.
	You can't even hold a conference anymore.
	You don't ru rule the F and world.
	And it's the idea that we want to rule over people and all that, and he was screaming that looked like a temper tantrum from someone that was uh 10 years old.
	It was a bad look.
	And it can't it's sort of um affirm the prejudices people have against people like us that want to have our identity that we're secret supremacists.
	And so I this why I did a video afterwards and say, no, no, I'm not in a supremacist, I'm opposed to that.
	I don't want to rule over people, I don't want to uh enslave them or anything like that.
	So I I totally disreg uh uh disavow or reject that position.
	Me too.
	Yeah, that part stood out the most for me when he said uh that I'm the king of the effing world.
	It was like uh I'm King Kong or King Kong ain't got nothing on me.
	Yeah, you know, he he loves James Bond, he likes to pretend he's a Bond villain or whatever.
	I mean, come on, dude.
	I mean, this is serious stuff we're dealing with now, and we can't have people LARPing as weirdos like that, and uh that tends to happen.
	It's like I I have friends like why can't we have anyone that's just really normal?
	Why do they always have to go crazy and into these positions?
	And I'm not saying Richard's crazy, I think he's done a lot of good things, but that would that particular thing was very very unfortunate because it confirmed the prejudices of our enemies, and they'll always be using that leak tape as proof.
	This is what we and they lump all of us under him, think.
	So that was unfortunate.
	I I think Dick Fuentes is too smart for that, though, and he's a little bit more um it's ironic because he's young, he's a very young man.
	How old is he?
	1920?
	He's really a young guy.
	He's like 21.
	You know, I gotta say, he's always talking about optics, but like they're able to find some of these clips.
	Like, I don't think uh first of all, I'm glad I'm not in his shoes in this spotlight, getting all these attacks and all this attention, because like they could go through my videos, I'm sure, and find little sound bites, but I don't know if they could find some sound bites from me like they've they've found from him, even though a lot of it's irony and joking and stuff.
	You mean uh Richard Spencer?
	Fuentes.
	Fuentes, yeah.
	Oh, Fuentes, yeah.
	Well, you know, that's the thing.
	I mean, Fuentesine makes a lot of jokes and he uh fools around a lot, which isn't meant to be hateful, which in a sense, if you went on Saturday Night Live, hell, they make jokes against Christians and mock Christians and Christianity, and they would say, Oh, it's not hate, don't be so you know, don't have a stick up your butt.
	You just gotta have fun.
	This is his comedy.
	But they're very sensitive when they're the butt of the joke.
	So I I don't have a trouble with what Fuentes has said.
	I mean, he's a young guy, and it's it we live in a weird era now because when I was younger, we didn't have social media, and you could do stupid things, and but it's never going to be following you around forever.
	I'm not saying what Nick did is stupid, but I think all of at least I have in my youth.
	I did some weird things.
	I wouldn't want to be on camera forever, you know.
	So uh that's something we always got to be thinking about.
	Now, some of that follows us around around.
	That's I I've had the same pro I've had the same problem, you know.
	I I did a joke making fun of the neo-Nazis, and I did like a Hitler salute making fun of them, and the SPLC took out that uh screenshot of me making a Nazi salute and trying to imply that was something I supported, which I didn't.
	It was part of a video making fun of the people that do that.
	So that was defamation, which they do.
	And uh, for example, I did a skit where I was in a hoodie with a toy gun, and they use that, and people that didn't know it looked like I was some gangster American history ex thug.
	If people know me, that's so silly.
	But they took that out of context.
	So that's how that's how evil they are and how they defame you.
	It'd be like taking remember Star Trek.
	Do you ever watch Star Trek?
	When they went back into history as Nazis, it'd be like taking uh a still of William Shatner in a Nazi uniform and saying, Hey, this proves that uh William Shatner was a Nazi, and it's like, no, he's playing a role.
	So this is how bad it's got.
	Even if you play a role or play a skit, they'll take you out of context.
	The SPLC, the ADL, they're very hateful organizations, they're deceptive, they're just evil people, and they do that, but everyone's scared of them, so it's hard to get lawsuits against them because if anyone else did that, they'd be sued out of existence.
	Right, and you gotta know that they're not honest people.
	Anyone will your enemies will lie to defame you, and it's funny.
	You mentioned the same thing that Dan Crenshaw was uh warning all these gripers asking these questions.
	He's like, When I was young, there was no internet, everybody didn't have a cell phone, but now you're gonna regret asking these questions, which is like a uh veiled uh threat that you know you're gonna be held accountable for for all this stuff.
	And it I just want to see some debates.
	I'm tired of them saying, No, we're not gonna debate, you're just uh losers, like what um what's her name?
	Gilfoil was like, Oh, you can't get dates and you're uh you know a bunch of bunch of incels.
	I mean, you can't get laid, you can't get laid, dudes.
	It's like, geez.
	I mean, I I whatever.
	I mean, that's a sillyest thing.
	I mean uh the idea of it it's just crazy that they've been that's what I'm saying at the beginning.
	They're they're just not really professional, the responses, they're really junior high-ish and high schoolish, they're very weak and they easily flustered.
	These aren't very even smart people, they have a lot of power and they have a lot of money, but they haven't really thought things through, they don't really have good answers, and they get flustered easy.
	I think they're a paper tiger, really.
	I really do.
	I don't think they're very strong, and they could easily be toppled over.
	They've got the media and the big money behind them, so they can kind of control the narrative.
	But if it was there were just a one-on-one debate between Nick and like uh Charlie Kirk or Shapiro or or any of these people, he he would just slaughter them because the truth is on our side.
	Like, if you remember Shapiro did the interview with the guy from BBC, and he just asked him about like the the uh anti-Palestinian uh tweets that Shapiro was doing, and he just he threw a hissy fit and walked off.
	And that's what happens when you just shine a little bit of light on these people.
	Yeah, well, Ben Shapiro, you know, if talking about digging out old tweets, he actually literally advocated ethnic cleansing.
	No joke, he advocated that, and he's still on there.
	So that's an example of the double standards.
	This is, and I don't think Nick's ever advocated ethnic cleansing like Ben Shapiro has against the Muslims he did.
	Uh, but yeah, that shows a double standard.
	They can get away with stuff that anyone else, if you turn it around, we'd be forever considered hateful and everything else.
	But you're right, Ben Shapiro, he's good against obese purple haired uh lesbians at the college campus about their weirdo identities, but trying to debate someone that's intelligent, he he really can't.
	I don't think he could even debate me.
	And I'm not I'm not saying I'm the smartest guy, but I can see through his BS and the verbal tricks he does.
	He's one of those guys, he's kind of like a shyster lawyer that can talk fast or a salesman, but they're not really saying anything.
	And that's kind of Ben Shapiro's shtick.
	And if you have someone that can see through that and hold him accountable, he'll he will easily get triggered and storm off.
	You saw the the tweet by the Daily Wire who uh so the guy that works for Shapiro, he said that uh all Europeans have uh hate Jews, it's in their DNA to hate Jews.
	You saw that one?
	Yeah, there's a there's a lot of I I've noticed with those people there's a lot of um projection.
	There really is.
	They they it's what they think, how they feel of us, that they think we feel of them when it's actually opposite, because most Christians, at least I've been around, are very sympathetic towards Jews.
	They feel sorry for them, they like them.
	I'm here in the South, there's a lot of Christian Zionists.
	So it's kind of opposite of what they think, but they have such hostility and they have such paranoia, and they have such, I would say, hatred towards Christians and Europeans based on their policies that they assume that we feel the same towards them.
	And I think that explains a lot because of their projection.
	What they what they're accusing us of having is really what they have, and how I've seen them interact so dishonestly and so hateful.
	Wow.
	I mean, it's an eye-opener.
	It's I I'm shocked when I see it.
	It's it's very uh devious and deceptive, and uh straight out anymore.
	I'm just calling it evil.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They um this guy Josh Hammer that works for Shapiro, he he's really showing how they really feel.
	They so when you hear Shapiro and these people cry anti-Semitism for anything that we say, when we put point out their supremacy or their hatred or something they're doing, um, they think we're just everything we do no matter what.
	Even thinking, even saying that like we feel a certain way, and the motive isn't just baseless hate and anti-Semitism, they'll say that's anti-Semitic as well.
	And and of course, yeah, go ahead.
	No, I I I did a video about this.
	Is how they do their verbal tricks.
	It's very interesting.
	They want to address the issue.
	They just start attacking you personally.
	And they they somehow I guess they're telepathic because whatever position you have, they know they just know in your heart you have hate.
	And it's like, oh, really?
	How do you know that?
	You read my mind.
	In our DNA, they say it's our DNA is hateful.
	And really the truth is if you look at Judaism, they're incredibly anti-Christian in Judaism.
	The Talmud and uh and Habad.
	But Ben Shapiro says, Oh, I love Christians.
	Of course he does.
	All the Christians that buy his books and in uh buy his products and uh support Israel from the religious.
	I mean I yeah.
	And and you gotta be careful, there's a broad you can't paint with a broad brush, so there's a lot of exceptions and so forth.
	But definitely, uh at least with their core or their organizations, uh, they're extremely hostile towards Christianity.
	They mock Christianity, they don't have an issue with that.
	They never call that hate.
	We can't call their constant mocking of Christianity.
	Uh you know, they could do a comedy skit of fissing on Jesus Christ, and they just think that's funny.
	They don't consider that hate, but oh, we do their little sacred cows, and there's all sorts of accusations of hate and being a Nazi and anti-this, anti-Semite.
	Um it's just it it's not a honest way to argue, but that's how they do it because they find this effective, because people get on the defensive, because you start to defend yourself.
	No, I'm not an anti-Semite, I have some Jewish friends, or I'm married to a Jew, or I have the, you know, you start doing that, and you're you get away from your original question, and that's what they want, because they can't answer the original question, so they deflect.
	They uh they immediately start accusing you of things and trying to get you banned, and I got that on Twitter.
	I am careful how I word things, but I I never discuss the Holocaust because it's not a legal um uh subject to um discuss.
	And but I will discuss if uh an event should be allowed to be debated.
	And so I just stated, I said, you know, every historical event, I don't care what it is, Christian, Jewish, Islam, whatever, it should be allowed in a free society to debate, disagree with, whatever.
	Some people are gonna be cranks, whatever.
	Doesn't mean it's true, what people believe, but we should be able to get all these ideas out there.
	It's it's actually a good thing.
	That's how science works, that's how history works, that's how you determine the truth.
	And that's all I've said.
	And from that, they said, Oh, you just have this hatred in your heart towards Jews, you're an anti-Semite, you're a Nazi.
	I'm like, what the hell?
	I'm just saying everything people should be allowed to discuss freely.
	So it's amazing.
	It's amazing how they get on point with this type of thing of just not even discussing like denying the Holocaust, which I never do.
	I'm just saying it should be allowed to be discussed.
	Just having that position, they consider extremely hateful and biased, and you're just full of hate.
	And it's just like, wow.
	And the reason I do this, because I know the response, I can bait them.
	It shows a lot of normies, because a lot of normies they see that they're like, what the hell?
	This is you know the Western concept in America, not only in America, but the West is you know, whatever it is, you should be able to debate and talk about it.
	You shouldn't have these things that are heresy.
	It'd be like the Middle Ages.
	You can't speak against the Trinity, it's just how it is.
	If you speak against the Trinity, you should be put to death.
	You know, that's not it's not on our nature.
	With through the Enlightenment, we said everything should be able to be discussed to debate.
	I mean, you could be full of crap, but we should be able to debate things.
	And here you have a group saying, No, you can't debate this little uh story we have.
	Uh and if you do, it means you're full of hate and you need you're a horrible person, you should be deplatformed, you shouldn't ever get a job.
	Really, it's just a form of intimidation, and it's horrific.
	It's it's just it's straight out evil.
	Intimidation, like with Michelle Malkin, the way that they're treating her, she's like one of the the only mainstream people to speak out and kind of just say, Hey, these guys have these are legitimate questions, they shouldn't be smeared like this.
	And the chilling effect, she gets fired, everybody's disavowing her, everybody's attacking her.
	It really creates an atmosphere where nobody else is gonna want to speak out.
	I I don't you've probably seen Cassandra Fairbanks has been tweeting that she's she's been standing up for the groupers too, and then everybody's messaging her, telling her that she better delete this tweet or she better disavow Stefan Molyneux today.
	Came out with what looked like a force disavow to me, you know.
	And um are you are are we gonna see a Ramsey Paul disavow anytime soon?
	I I don't imagine so.
	Uh never, never.
	Because everything what I wanted to do with my videos, my one of my first videos was called the truth.
	And I've always wanted to try to figure out what the truth is.
	Doesn't mean I have it.
	I'm not perfect, I can screw up, I can change my mind, I can say I understood things wrong, you know, previously.
	But the goal is when I talk to all you guys, it I'm not different if you meet me in person.
	I meet people in person, they're like, you're the same guy, you have the same opinion.
	So I'm not trying to hide things.
	I just really want to understand the truth.
	And I can't I couldn't do that because I think I would be kind of cheating the audience or people that respect me, I would consider that a lack of integrity as a man.
	And 50 years from now, or probably a lot sooner, I'll be dead.
	And I want to live life as much as I can, at least in intellectually with integrity, and say, this is what I believe, and I'm not going to change it because of threats and intimidation.
	And I I and it doesn't really work.
	The Soviets did that too, and they could shut people off, but then people normies are like, what the hell's happening?
	Why can't we discuss this subject without penalty of potentially going to prison?
	Something sounds really, really fishy about this, if that's what you're having to do.
	That's what people think.
	They really do.
	That's what normal people, normies think.
	So uh while they can get people that silence people underground are starting to talk like, Wait, well, there's something really wrong here, and we're actually living now under a tyranny, because if you can't speak your mind and debate historical, scientific, religious issues, you're living under a tyranny.
	We're no longer a free nation, we're no longer in a free society.
	We're living with people that are ruling over us via fear and intimidation.
	And fear and intimidation does not make things right, it doesn't make things true.
	It's just you hold it because of your fear and intimidation.
	The minute you lose that, you're gonna be in trouble.
	And I think they're really scared they're gonna lose it.
	Yeah, especially with this uh this cookie issue that you know, Nick has brought this cookie monster issue to the forefront.
	You were arguing with people or debating people on Twitter yesterday, calling um this World War II event uh like religion.
	It cannot be questioned or else it's embarrassing.
	Yeah, let me yeah, let me explain that a little bit because um again, I never discuss the Holocaust if it's true or not, because it's something that can't be discussed because of legal reasons.
	And I really don't know.
	I mean, if you're gonna really discuss something, you have to set parameters, you have to define terms, and you have to look at the evidence, and you have to allow people to object to the evidence.
	That that's how science works.
	That's how history works.
	People that object, you don't call them haters, you don't sh shut them up.
	You're like, huh, you may have a good point that makes us have to revise our understanding.
	Any event, the Civil War, Julius Caesar, that's how things work.
	We can't do that with a Holocaust, it's illegal.
	At that point, if you can't discuss uh in issue a historical event in that way, it's no longer a historical event.
	It still may be true, but it's religious.
	It's a religious event that if you go against this heresy.
	And so that's my point is we shouldn't have historical events be in that category.
	That's not the Western mind.
	And I don't care about religion, you know, because if you're a religious person and you believe, you know, God created an Adam and Eve and there was a flood, and you re believe all this stuff.
	I respect that.
	That's your belief.
	You can believe what you want.
	And it's not really subject to academic debate because it's based on faith.
	You believe the Holy Spirit's telling you this, that people are inspired by God.
	Whatever.
	I I understand that.
	Your religion, but if you're gonna deal in the world of facts, science, history, you can't base it on that.
	You gotta base it on documents, you gotta base it on be people able to debate stuff.
	We can't do this right now with this event.
	We can't.
	If you well, you can, but you can only do it on one way.
	Because if you have any objections, you could end up in prison.
	And if anything you do that at that point is not historical, it's not scientific.
	You're dealing with religion.
	And that's what it is right now, is religious.
	And so I'm saying that the subject, not just the Holocaust, everything should be free to discuss, Free to discuss without worrying about going to prison.
	So if you ask the question, hey, how about this?
	This doesn't add up.
	The way do you do that is you show facts.
	Oh, okay, here's your objections.
	Well, here's the facts that counter your objection.
	That's how you do it.
	You don't take that person and say, you're full of hate.
	We're throwing you in jail, like that 90-year-old German lady.
	Uh you can get people to shut up that way, but you're not at that point dealing with science or history.
	You're dealing with really religious zealots.
	And a lot of what I've seen are people that are like uh radical Islam or Muslims that want to blow people up because someone draws a cartoon of um Muhammad.
	It's the same type of thing, or Christians, I'm not picking on Muslims.
	Some of the old Christians, oh, how do you deny the deity of Jesus Christ?
	We're gonna put you to death.
	It's the same type of philosophy.
	It's like, my God, we're going back to these really dark times and dark ages where people can't discuss things freely without being thrown into prison.
	What the hell is that?
	And how are these people that are advocating throwing 90-year-old women in prison because they disagree with a whole uh some historical event?
	How are you the good guys?
	You're evil if you're doing that.
	You are the bad guys, you are the zealots, you are the tyrants, and we got to get that point across.
	And that's why I never debate the Holocaust, because I don't know.
	I mean, that's to debate the Holocaust, you have to have a free society to do that.
	We don't live on that, so I don't I don't debate the issue.
	I don't say anything about that.
	But I debate the concept of can we discuss any issue and should we be able to discuss any issue without being thrown into a pit?
	That shouldn't it be such a radical position?
	But just be just holding that position, saying even that position, saying everything should be able to be discussed freely is like, oh, hate, hate Nazi.
	It's just crazy.
	And normal people can see this, and this is a strong position to take.
	Yeah, the one the one issue that you can't even discuss not being able to discuss, and where if this is uh one event, what's next from just you can't talk about uh 9-11 or you can't talk about uh this other thing that happened.
	What where will it end?
	Yeah, that started.
	That started.
	Yeah, you you've heard this the climate change denial, they want to make illegal now too.
	Vaccine, and by the way, denial, yeah, yeah, denial is a creepy religious term.
	It's no term in science or history or anything like that.
	Denial, I deny the Trinity.
	He he's a denier, he's a heretic, he's a witch.
	Is that crazy that you shouldn't be using that type of language in a scientific or historical process?
	You can have people that may object, they're critics, but denier, but you're right.
	And we've seen that.
	We've seen this in climate change.
	And then pretty soon you end up like the Soviets or North Korea.
	You can't deny that the uh the leader is some god leader.
	He and if you do that, that means you're full of hate.
	And it it's a bad thing, and it's a slippery slope, which is real, and excuse me, and it won't end with a Holocaust or climate change, it'll just go on and on with things you can't discuss, and we're no longer free men.
	Right.
	Yeah, how about those USS Liberty deniers?
	We've been seeing a lot of those uh on these uh turning point campus tours, and in this denier term, I was about to bring it up as well.
	Uh Ryan Dawson's got a new documentary on this issue called uh spinning squirrel, the official documentary will be out soon.
	But um, he he basically shows this woman, Deborah Lips lipshat.
	She's got uh TED talks and books, she's like the famous uh you know anti-denier woman.
	But the way she tries to frame it like an all or nothing, like these people are deniers.
	They said the the Holocaust didn't happen.
	They frame it as an all or nothing thing.
	You could dispute one issue, you know, one number, and they say, Oh, you're denying that any of it happened at all.
	Yeah, I did a video about that today.
	Let's take a uh a hypothetical.
	In Gettysburg, what we know that the union they lost around 23,000 men in the Battle of Gettysburg, uh, that's killed and wounded.
	It'd be like if because of new evidence, we're like, uh, maybe that number was more like 10,000.
	It'd be like, oh, you're a denier, you deny the civil war.
	And it's like, no, what the hell?
	This is one specific thing.
	And so when you have this broad label, like the Holocaust, and like I brought up, by the way, that's a new term.
	I I still have my encyclopedia, thank God, from 1974.
	And that term's not even in the encyclopedia.
	It didn't mean that people didn't believe that six million Jews were killed.
	I'm not saying that.
	But the term the Holocaust wasn't even really used.
	It wasn't used in that fashion.
	There was a word and meant the burn offering, but it wasn't used in the World War II thing with the Jews.
	That came in 1978 with the Steven Spielberg's The Holocaust miniseries.
	That's when this whole thing came about, the Holocaust.
	And so what do you mean by Holocaust exactly?
	Do you mean Jews killed in Russia that were partisans?
	Do you mean Je well, what does that mean?
	So you have to define your terms.
	You have to define your boundaries.
	And that's what I'm saying.
	So I don't get in involved with that discussion.
	But you're right.
	This whole idea of making everything binary is so ridiculous.
	We don't do that anything else.
	And um but you know, because they're stuck on the six million number for there's symbolic reasons for that, but you can't get off that number.
	And if you do, you're a deniers.
	It's binary.
	And it's already illegal to do to question this all over the world.
	I think it's important that we continue to exercise our rights to investigate this.
	Otherwise, there's a saying like you don't really have a right if you're not able to actually exercise that right.
	And and one more thing about it being a religion is uh is this right here.
	They did a poll.
	This is Pew Research 2013.
	What does it mean to be Jewish?
	And you can see here uh the number one thing is remembering the Holocaust.
	So even more than being part of a Jewish community or observing Jewish law or eating Jewish food or caring about Israel, by far the number one thing that connects them as they're you know, new modern day religion is all of this, the Holocaust industry.
	Yeah, I mean, years ago it was the the Passover and getting out of Egypt, the Exodus, which by the way, I guess how many the Bible says were Jews escaped the were part of the Exodus.
	It's a six number, six hundred thousand.
	You go through I I made a whole video about the number six and the religious significance of that number to Jews.
	I mean, they're the star of David is six points.
	It's six is very symbolic to them.
	And um, like they said there's six hundred thousand words in the old testament.
	It's not true, but that's what they taught.
	So all this is very symbolic.
	So now they have this as a Holocaust as sort of the new Passover, and it's become central for their identity.
	And it's also more I and I've also said is it's also been used as a reason they can get over some of these double standards, like why do the Jewish people, why do they have a right to a homeland that we must maintain as majority Jewish, but the Finns to keep their homeland majority Finnish would be considered wicked, evil Nazi.
	They could say, oh, because of the Holocaust, because of the horrible Holocaust, we need our own homeland, and because of the Holocaust, you guys aren't allowed to have homelands.
	That's really I think the driver.
	I don't quite understand all of it, but that whole issue for them is like key.
	It's like everything will fall apart if that was should be taken apart.
	And uh whether it's true or not, I don't get involved with, but it we should be able to discuss it freely.
	We're not able to discuss it freely, so I do not discuss it.
	Um I I guess it's true.
	I mean, I I'm fine going with the law saying it's true, but we need to be able to discuss it freely.
	We would never, never deny that violates YouTube rules.
	And uh, but it is a card.
	It's funny we keep saying, oh, we're not talking about it, but it's been like 30 minutes that we are talking about it.
	It's the card that never expires.
	They really get it's just their their Trump card, they always get to pull.
	Yeah, and I never get involved with the specifics because again, it's illegal.
	Like I'm not gonna talk about the wooden doors, I'm not gonna talk about the various changes of the numbers or the different stories that happen.
	I'm young enough, I remember they that they were talking about lamps shades and making them part of soap or something.
	They dropped all that.
	So there's been various iterations, but I don't talk about that because that's not the key issue.
	The key issue is can we talk about it at all?
	So that's what I focus on.
	I don't focus on the very specifics and you know what happened on the Eastern Front and the rails and Auschwitz and the other concentration camps.
	I don't get involved with that because that's not a legal thing to get involved with.
	I talk about the more greater issue is Should we be allowed to discuss that?
	Should we be allowed to investigate those things?
	And currently the answer in most of Europe is no.
	And by de facto, even where it is legal, you you'll get a deplatform, you get in trouble.
	It's just it is basically de facto illegal.
	Other places deserve illegal, but here's de facto illegal.
	So I don't I don't get involved with the specifics, so that's I don't have those conversations.
	Well, it is in America still quasi illegal.
	But all of this kvetching that they do over it is gonna do the stri stra uh stre-zand effect, and it's gonna make more people go, hmm, why are we not allowed to question this?
	Uh another thing you mentioned earlier, the double standard with uh uh the Muslims and not how you're not allowed to draw Mohammed.
	So these Zionists like Pamela Geller, they'll hold big events and advertise it and say we're drawing Mohammed.
	But then if the New York Times draws a cartoon with Netanyahu uh leading around Trump with uh some blind man glass uh uh uh sunglasses, they lose their minds that the UN ambassador for Israel literally went to the UN and said that they want anti-Semitism anti-Semitism to be criminalized over a cartoon, a political cartoon.
	Yeah, I mean they're tribal.
	People humans in general are tribal and they want to defend their tribe, and every tribe has their foundational myths or whatever.
	Uh the United States did with George Washington, you know, he could not tell a lie, or he chopped down this cherry tree.
	That never happened really.
	But you know, those are the things that all societies have, and Jews have them, Muslims have them, and various countries have them.
	So yeah, they're definitely trying to protect their tribal interests, which kept Jews cohesive for a couple thousand years because they didn't have a homeland.
	So they had to have something that hold held them together, and part of it was their religion, Judaism, and other aspects of it too.
	And now it's like the Holocaust holds them together because a lot of Jews aren't really particularly religious, but they have this Holocaust as a sense of uh victimhood, which historically would never work because you told Gingas Kong he killed millions of people, and if you complain to him about it, he it wouldn't work with him.
	But for us and our Christian morality, it works.
	And they've done a kind of a switcheroo.
	It used to be, oh, just how evil the Germans were, but now it's like the whole race.
	Even whites that fought against the Nazis, like my grandparents then, they're considered evil, even though they fought against the Nazis.
	So they've kind of conflated that whole tale to say the villains are not just the Germans.
	It used to be the villains were just the Nazis, and it was like all the German people.
	And then it became basically all the American people, too.
	All the white race are are guilty inherently.
	And it gets back to what Ben Shapiro, his editor was saying, that all Europeans are all white people and genetically uh anti-Semitic.
	It's just a flaw in their character, which if we said the same thing about Jewish people, oh wow, you know.
	So uh yeah, that's that's sort of how that works.
	And they have every everybody has a right to act in their own self-interest and their own, you know, tribal uh self-interest.
	But it I've I've noticed that I think some of the some Jewish people believe that it's in their tribe's best interest to not allow other tribes to act in their best interests.
	So that's where the double standard and the suppression of uh of uh our right to uh what's the term I'm looking for?
	Self-determination or like Palestinian uh self-determination.
	Um, which let's talk about uh you mentioned it a little bit earlier.
	I wanted to ask about your uh your infamous Zionist video.
	So yeah, yes, I I I always get everyone pissed off at me at the right or the left, and that was the one I got a lot of people, I guess, uh upset with that.
	And what I meant by Zionism is the dictionary definition that the Jews have a right to a homeland, and I think everyone does.
	And that's how I define Zionism.
	Now, if you define Zionism in a more broad sense of trying to infiltrate governments or to corrupt them, obviously I'm against Zionism.
	To rule the world via prophecy.
	Right, I'm against that.
	But if you it's idea that the Jews should have a homeland, I don't know where it should be.
	Okay, and I I'm I'm for the Palestinians having homeland too.
	That's what I was saying.
	Here's the point.
	I I don't care.
	I don't want to give my tax money to the Jews in Israel, and I don't want to give Them to the Palestinians, because I don't care.
	I shouldn't have to care what's happening 6,000 miles around the world.
	I mean, do you how many people here care about the dispute between the Hungarians and the Romanians over Transylvania?
	Most people don't even know about because they don't care.
	And that's the way our policy should be to the Israelis, the Jews, and the Zionists in Israel and the Palestinians.
	We should have the hands-off policies like well, whatever.
	You guys work it out.
	It's not our business.
	So I I don't get involved with these Gaza boundary disputes or whatever like that is, because it's not my business.
	I don't think we should be supporting Israel.
	At the same time, I don't think we should be supporting really any country.
	Every country should support themselves.
	So that's my position on Zionism.
	And it's easy for me because it makes me very consistent.
	I I I this way, because I I would feel like being a hypocrite saying, okay, the Germans have a right to Germany, Finland have the right to, you know, they have a right to homeland, but Jews, they don't have a right to homeland.
	I I I do think they do have one.
	I think that helps with self-determination.
	They can have the religion, they can do whatever.
	Uh they can have the religious beliefs, but uh that should be for everyone.
	So um they they did have a homeland though.
	You know, they were in Germany, they were in uh they were in in Russia.
	Uh there was a famous uh White House uh correspondent, an old uh old woman, and she said the same thing.
	She goes, they should go back to the countries and not take uh the Palestinian land, because you go back to 1948, and uh if the Palestinians had a little bit more nationalism, they may have not have had the uh the Russian Jewish uh immigration crisis that ended up taking over the whole the whole country.
	Well, yeah, I mean it's a complicated process because originally that was part of the Ottoman Empire during World War One, I believe.
	And that that was part of the whole issue of the uh Balfour Declaration was hey, you know, if we can get America in the war because uh promise of Jews a homeland in the future, because they wanted a homeland in Israel, but the it was under Ottomans, and it was under Turkey, and they said, No, we can't you know give you a homeland, there's people there.
	But the British were able to promise that as if you know they could use influence to get the United States in World War I. So there's a long history there.
	They were offered other places too that they could have taken where they wouldn't have had to displace, but they didn't they had to have the temple mount because it's important to to prophecy.
	Yeah, it's important for the religion.
	They consider that themselves that they come from the original Israelis sites, and um, which is probably not historically accurate of how that happened, but whatever.
	You know, it's um over the years, people have these again, these foundational myths, and that was one of their foundational myths of Israel.
	So they decided uh they wanted that to be their homeland.
	And I I don't know what the solution is.
	I think the Palestinians have a right to homeland too.
	How that should be divided up, I don't know, and I don't really care that much because I care about my people.
	I'm not I'm not really a big fan of either the Palestinians or the Jewish people in Israel.
	I just don't care about them one way or the other.
	Doesn't mean I hate them, I just don't care.
	I care about my people and European nations being able to protect their country.
	So that's really my focus right now.
	So I definitely understand looking at it on like the the theoretical level that you want to be consistent and say, you know, everybody deserves to have their own uh you know uh their own home own homeland.
	But when you say that you want to be like neutral and stay out of it and you don't really care, you have to factor in that America and the West has been supporting Israel for so many decades with so many billions of dollars that to stay out of it at this point is essentially just siding siding with Israel 100%.
	Isn't it?
	Well, I'm a yeah, I I'm opposed to all that aid, and I've caught I've been very clear about that, and I've been opposed to like all these laws are trying to make it to boycott Israel.
	Outrageous, outrageous in America.
	There's some Muslim lady that was a um special ed teacher in Texas, and she was a contractor, but Texas made it a rule that you can't boycott Israeli products if you're a contractor, and she's a teacher.
	She said, Well, it's no, it's against my religious faith.
	I don't want to support the Israeli products, and they want to hire her.
	So that talk about a violation of the First Amendment, it's just outrageous we have that.
	So I I'm I'm I I don't boycott Israel because I don't care one way or the other, but if someone wants to boycott Israel in America, by God, that's their right as an American.
	And for have these little tyrants come over and say we can't boycott their damn ethnostate when they're like, oh, ethnostate for the Finns or the Germans, oh, we can't have that.
	That's hate Nazis, but but you got to support our ethnostate, otherwise you can't get a job.
	Such uh what's the word hut spot, hut spots?
	That's arrogance.
	I mean, how can they do that?
	And then we need to be able to show the double standard there and say, that's bullshit.
	I mean, if American wants to boycott Israel, fine.
	If they want to boycott Germany, fine.
	That should be an American's point of view.
	That's what's called freedom.
	And we're going so far away from freedom and the basis of what this country is, it's almost unrecognizable to me anymore.
	Is it's quite scary.
	I'm I'm I'm 56, and I can remember how America used to be, and all this stuff would have been conceived been inconceivable that we're at this place now, but here we are.
	Um you got a lot of books behind you there.
	Could you suggest us uh a good book and like who uh radicalized you and how long have you kind of been uh uh aware of these kind of issues?
	Um I I'm not really radical.
	I just I did uh you saw the uh quotes the airport.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's that's how the saying goes.
	You know, Ben Shapiro and Dave Rubin radicalized me.
	Yeah, I I like to I like to de-radicalize.
	Um it's fascinating because when I first went into videos, I was always right, Wayne.
	And I was more like a GOP kind of standard type of thing.
	And then when I saw some other issue, whenever there was something like anti-white, I'm like, wow, this is a coincidence.
	This group's always seems to be popping up.
	Uh has it always been like that though?
	I feel like if you would have said, oh, there's like an anti-white agenda, if you would have said that like 20 years ago, you would have got laughed at.
	But it's like nowadays it's just everywhere in our faces.
	Well when when did you start noticing this?
	Oh, it was more so after the year 2000, because I was just watching some old TV series in the 90s recently.
	I I won't say it because it's embarrassing, it's trashy TV programming just for fun, right?
	Oh, we gotta tell us now.
	All right.
	I I was watching some old repeats of a soap opera called Melrose Place.
	Have you ever heard of that?
	Melrose Place.
	I remember I never watched it, but I remember the name of it, yeah.
	I I know, I know.
	I'm gonna be shamed for that.
	But it's this trash entertainment.
	But everyone on yeah, I am, but everyone on there was white, or maybe they were Jewish too, I don't know, but they look white, right?
	All the actors and actors says no one had a big deal about it.
	And they even still talked about Christmas and stuff like that, uh, which is kind of verbo to now.
	And they did have one gay guy, but it was kind of discreet.
	Of course, they're they're starting the propaganda even earlier than the 90s.
	They were starting it there.
	But it you could still, this was still defined as mostly a white nation, and there's no issue with it.
	Whereas now everything is so so hyper political.
	Did you see that Charlie's Angels movie that totally bombed?
	I didn't see it, but I read about it.
	And I guess it was like ultra-feminist, where they had a white girl and African American girl, and I think an Asian girl, maybe Hispanic, I don't know.
	But the white girl was also a lesbian, and they were all these super, you know, the 95-pound woman could beat up a 200-pound man, all the cliches, it was horrible.
	But that's where we are now.
	Everything's all politicized.
	Yeah, the the Sprint, all these big uh multinational companies like uh Sprite and Coke and you know, everyone down the list, uh, Gillette Razors, like Sprite had the video the other day where it's like they're they think of themselves as social engineers that are literally trying to drastically change and it just look how far we've come in just the last decade.
	Where are we gonna be in another decade uh on this uh trajectory?
	It's it's scary.
	And that's what's interesting that everyone had wrong back like in the 80s when I was younger.
	Everyone assumed back then when I was in university, early 80s, that the corporations were always sort of right wing and conservative and reactionary, and uh the other organizations were more progressive.
	But now it's all about money, right?
	They go, oh, it's all about money, but really it's not, it's about changing people's minds.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	Money's like secondary to these people.
	They have uh so that's where people got capitalism wrong.
	And I think it's surprised people on the right and the left.
	So now you have all these anti-fall types.
	Uh they want to protest corporations, but these corporations, it's like anti FAW, sponsored by Pepsi.
	It's bizarre, You know, and they're supposed to be anti-corporations.
	It's it'd be like to see like uh Bill Gates or something like, yeah, down with these damn billionaires and corporations.
	Let's stick it to the man.
	I'm like, dude, you're a billionaire.
	Like uh Warren, sorry to interrupt, but Warren, what's her first name?
	Elizabeth Warren just put out uh a billionaire tears mug, and it was she's selling it on Shopify, which is owned by billionaires, so she's really sticking it to him, right?
	I I know it's just so it's bizarre.
	I don't understand how these people could rationalize it.
	I would think if you're like an antifa, you're fighting against capitalism, and all these capitalism are like funding you and supporting you and showing you as a good guy.
	You think, well, wait a minute, am I on the right side?
	So uh yeah, being a dissident is interesting because we have no political, no media, no corporations, no nothing.
	It's uh we just but we have the truth.
	We have the truth, and the truth will sit you free, and that's the most powerful thing we can have.
	Knowledge is power.
	So uh next question.
	I've got a little concern with the whole Groper thing.
	Like uh I saw Nick on Alex Jones today.
	I did a live stream on DLive on that, and Jones was careful to say, well, I'm pro-Israel and I'm not against Israel, and I disavow all this stuff you're saying.
	But uh I've noticed that like the debate, a lot of the debate is turning into who is the real Trump supporter.
	And so um I'm pretty sure that you supported Trump in 2016.
	Um I did.
	Are you do you still are you still supporting him in 2020?
	Or do you think we should uh he's a total total uh Zionist puppet and he betrayed he's a traitor of America and we should try to find uh a third party.
	Uh well, third parties will never work in this country based on how it's set up, and I don't look at things as binary.
	I and I'm disappointed in Trump.
	And supporting them, I don't know what that really means.
	Um the state I'm in is gonna go to Trump no matter what, just because most states are pretty there's only a handful that go either way.
	Yeah.
	Uh so I speak out.
	I'm getting getting back to the truth.
	I I I will speak my mind what I think is true.
	Could be wrong, could be right, but I've criticized Trump.
	And he's been mostly a BSer.
	He's kind of a loud-mouthed New Yorker.
	I thought he had more principles, he doesn't.
	We always knew he had poor character.
	I mean, he was screwing this uh porn star when his wife was pregnant.
	I mean, he's a he's a scumbag morally, but I thought, okay, he's a scumbag, but maybe he'll fight for us.
	But nah, he's more about Trump is about Trump.
	And you know, the whole he tries to gaslight us on this whole building the wall bit.
	He was doing that.
	And turned out the the department of um what was it, homeland security said no, it's just you know, the 78 miles was just refurbishing the wall that was already there.
	There's no new miles built under Trump.
	So that was all a gaslight lie.
	Immigration is more than ever under Trump.
	Uh, yeah, obviously his first priority.
	Oh, they have to be fair.
	He was always a Zionist.
	He always put um Israel first, and part of it, I think is his boomer Christian, although he's not much of a Christian, but upbringing, you know, the Jews are God's chosen people.
	We must support the Jews.
	And you know, that's why I move the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
	Yay, you guys may be out of a job and dying of opiate addiction, but yay, I moved the embassy.
	Made the Jews happy.
	And everyone's like, what the hell?
	But so yeah, he's been disappointed on a lot of things.
	Uh he's been entertaining, how he's been able to trigger the liberals and stuff.
	That's kind of fun.
	But Izzy a guy, he's been kind of a chaos agent.
	So that was good.
	It threw people into a disarray.
	It showed the corruption of the media, you know, the term fake media.
	He didn't coin it, but he turned it back on the media.
	We've been able to see a lot of normies how they're fake.
	At least, you know, I I hear that a lot though, and I want to push back on that, because like they always go, oh, Trump exposed the media.
	It's like nobody really trusts the media.
	Maybe he he brought a little bit more doubt, but he also, you know, like Fox Five and Hannity are his favorite shows.
	So and Fox is like is uh just as big or bigger than all the other uh uh big uh television uh cable companies uh combined when it comes to news.
	So um, but you know, I I will say I I heard somebody say this the other day like I don't even blame politicians for all shilling for Israel because they all realize that if they don't, they'll be destroyed by the media, they will never have a chance of being elected, which speaks it it shows uh how the whole system is broken in the country when you have to bow down to APEC and you have to go visit the wall and you have to uh you know play this this game with all the big Zionist money on no matter
	what side you are on to get elected.
	So it really is a bigger systemic problem than just Trump is the way I see it.
	Yeah, and no, I agree, and there's really no way to bring the issue up without being called without being called a Nazi.
	And people have been so conditioned, Nazis are worse thing, worst thing in the world, so there's no way to really bring it up, and it's just how it is.
	Everyone knows that's how it is, or everyone in politics knows that's how it is.
	And even Trump gets called a Nazi.
	Even Charlie Kirk, I've seen they call Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro alt-right and stuff.
	That's fine.
	I I kind of like that.
	The more people they call Nazis, it sort of devalues the term and it does it loses its impact.
	So I I don't really care if they call every white person a Nazi.
	It's probably good.
	Uh but yeah, I mean that's just how it is.
	That's just the reality of the situation.
	And uh yeah, we we just have to I I think when they're looking a little bit more obvious, though, and people are starting to see through it.
	Cool.
	Uh thanks for uh joining me, uh Ramsey.
	Uh we're an hour in.
	Let's go like another 10 to 15 minutes and try to take a couple questions.
	Do some uh rapper rapid fire questions from the chat.
	Do you still have a few more minutes?
	Yeah, and I'll answer quickly so we get through them.
	Cool, guys.
	Come on, let the let the questions come in.
	I'll be uh flipping back and forth between D Live and YouTube.
	Of course, I don't have super chat, so I can't uh I'm just got my eye on this fast moving chat uh completely demonetized.
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	And while the questions are coming in, uh why don't you do a few plugs for some of your stuff where people can find you too, Ramsey?
	Well, I yeah, I'm Ramsey Paul.
	I mean, uh I'm on YouTube and on Twitter, and uh with Tina on Saturdays, I do happy homelands.
	Uh Tina Vick.
	I say Tina, I assume everyone knows her.
	She's a Finnish nationalist, she's a millennial uh woman, and uh it provides a good balance to our show, and we I think we have a lot of good chemistry, how we do our show together, so it's a lot of fun.
	Uh our show is kind of laid back, we're not really argumentative, or we're not like blood sports, we're just kind of mellow, but we've had a lot of interesting people on with different political point of views.
	I mean, I I I could do like we've had like every box.
	We've had an African American on now, we've had an Asian, we've had a Hispanic, we've had a Jew, we've had a homosexual, and we've had a tr transgender.
	How's that for inclusive?
	Wow.
	Okay, uh that is very good.
	I I can't say the same for my channel.
	It's very uh uh what's the I know I don't know.
	But first question, I like this one, and I I thought about this too.
	We want to know when is uh Ramsey Paul gonna get a bookshelf.
	I'm at a like a temporary spot here.
	I can't I I can't say where.
	I do have a bookshelf, so I I hope to get a bookshelf soon, so that will be coming.
	Could you um I asked about a good book you could suggest for people?
	Uh I just see all those books behind you, and I'm just like all of that info packed in your brain.
	Uh can can you give us a suggestion of a good book for people to read?
	I know it's kind of putting you on the spot, but you can't grab it out from the bottom or else your whole uh tower will topple over there.
	I know I don't know any from here.
	These aren't really my books, but uh Hitler's let me see.
	Hitler's Revolution was interesting.
	It was about Nazi Germany before the war.
	Um I also like Guns of August.
	I'm reading right now, it's a mainstream normie book written in 1965 about World War One.
	And I I like history because it makes me understand how things were set up and how things happen.
	History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes, I think is the saying, and that's true.
	You see very similar things, although it's always different because things are different.
	But so I'm currently reading about World War One, and uh I I love the book Slaughterhouse Phi by Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
	Um, he was a um a German POW who's actually in Dresden.
	That was kind of his book about that.
	So I enjoyed that too.
	So I kind of read a lot of different things, but I tend to focus on um uh history history.
	And I like David Irving's Hitler's War.
	That was pretty good.
	It wasn't a pro-Hitler book.
	I he he was uh falsely defamed for that.
	He was trying to look at the war Kind of from a objective perspective without all the propaganda stuff.
	And that that that was sort of interesting too.
	So if you look at the World War One and the Second World War, you can kind of understand where we are today.
	Here's a question.
	This isn't uh wasn't a question from the chat, but I've heard this a lot.
	Is it true from your research that uh the Germans didn't actually call themselves Nazis, and that was only like uh outsider uh derogatory term?
	Yeah, I I think so.
	I I've heard various things about them.
	I mean, is uh actually the Nazis were the National Socialist Germans Workers' Party, and they had the German term for it.
	So didn't Nazi was just a term that was sort of an acronym that the like the Americans and the British used to describe fighting that party.
	Uh I don't think they really used it.
	They were National Socialist German Workers' Party.
	And there was two.
	There was a party, and then there was the ideology.
	And the ideology could be for any country, but the Nazis, as we would say called Nazi National Socialist Germans Workers' Party, were just was this for Germany.
	And they weren't, by the way, white nationalists, they were German nationalists, is quite a bit different.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Um circumcision.
	Do you agree or uh opposed?
	Um I'm uh kind of I I think it should be up to the parents on that.
	If people do that for the religious beliefs, not the babies.
	You you don't give consent to the babies.
	Well, I I give consent, you know, for example, Jewish people want to do that.
	I guess I'm different.
	I think parents should have the right, and the circumcision with a male is different than from a female where you're actually taking off the clitoris.
	Uh hormone therapy.
	No.
	So how's circumcision different?
	Because circumcision is not like cutting off your penis or your balls or changing you.
	It's not quite as bad, I'll give you that.
	That's true.
	Right.
	It's it's so I I I believe in giving parents some more of the latitude, and that's been a long tradition with the Jewish people.
	And I'm not anti-Jewish.
	I think I I I have a God, this sounds so cliche, but I have a lot of, you know, I have Jewish friends and everything, and I I don't mind their culture and religion and so forth.
	I uh just object to some of their organizations, I guess is how I should put it.
	Their uh their subversion of America, right?
	Yeah, not and again, and again, it it's not all, and I'm not you know you gotta be careful not a broad brush and everything.
	And I mean, there's a lot of people, they just try to live their lives like everyone else.
	So I think we need to be careful about that.
	But you notice it goes without saying it goes without saying yeah.
	Yeah, but about that's a broad brush, everyone.
	We're all KKK, right?
	Right, yeah.
	It's okay to uh do it when you're talking about uh about us.
	Okay, um okay, I saw a question about 9-11, 9-11 conspiracies.
	Uh your quick take on those.
	I'm not really big on them, and I I think that's sort of a dead end.
	I I generally believe uh that Israel probably knew that was going to happen, but I don't believe the stories of they secretly put bombs in the buildings or anything like that, or the planes were holograms, and I think focusing on that is not really uh it doesn't really get us anywhere.
	To talk about holograms is like an extreme straw man, but is it the dancing Israelis that makes you think that they probably had prior knowledge?
	Yeah, I think they had prior knowledge, but that I doesn't mean they necessarily did it, but they definitely weren't ha unhappy that it happened.
	I mean, that now who said he was happy because it was able to use that as an excuse to attack Iraq, even though Iraq had nothing to do with it, but Americans are kind of dumb.
	They thought, oh, you know, all these Muslims must be the same, so might as well attack Saddam Hussein.
	So uh no, but I don't really get into that too much.
	I think in general the story was pretty much true, except you know, it did benefit certain people.
	And how they still use it to this day to justify the the war on terror.
	Somebody says I blame Israel for everything.
	Not me, but the person in the comment.
	Okay, here let's go click over the D Live and get just a couple more questions in, then we'll wrap it up.
	Thanks everybody for being here.
	Uh oh, I've been working on a oh, your your video moved.
	I've been working on a cool video that's gonna come out maybe on Thursday about it's called uh God's Chosen or Chosen by God, and it's gonna talk about uh some real supremacy, some real ADL.
	Were you on the ADL hit list or or was that the Huffington Post one recently?
	Um I don't think I was.
	Maybe I was, I don't know.
	I was on the SPLC stuff, but I I don't really pay attention to that too much.
	But um I the ADL and SPLC to get they kind of blur together for me.
	They're losing some credibility, which is a good thing too.
	So whatever.
	ADL is easier to make fun of because they are literally they support nationalism for their people.
	It's kind of funny.
	Yeah, and the uh Jonathan Greenblatt, where's the Kabbalah bracelet?
	And you can look into Kabbalah, and it's there's some supremacist aspects in that as well.
	Yeah.
	Okay, let's see.
	What else can we see here?
	Last question.
	Uh somebody says something about Joker.
	Have you seen Joker?
	I did.
	I enjoyed that movie.
	I I think too many people read too much into it.
	I don't think it was right wing or left wing, really, my opinion.
	Um, but yeah, I know a lot of people read a lot into it.
	Okay, one last good question, guys.
	Help help us out.
	Let me check my notes here.
	Oh uh third third party.
	Let's elaborate a little bit more on that.
	So if I I can understand the argument that a third party uh won't be possible, that definitely seems like a two-party dictatorship right now.
	But do you think that we'll ever be able to fix it from within, or is it gonna have to be some type of uh revolution to ever uh get the country back on track?
	I I think the country will break apart, but I don't think it's anything we need to advocate or help.
	So I'm not an accelerationist.
	I think we all always have to do what's right and legal, but things are gonna break apart no matter what we do, and because this of the scenario of we're becoming so multicultural countries, they never stay together unless you have a police state.
	I think we're gonna have a lot of financial problems.
	So we're gonna start to see uh interesting times.
	The 20s will be interesting times, put it that way.
	And I think what we need to focus on is our identity, our positive view of the future, and don't get involved in anything crazy or illegal or anything like that.
	That just gets you in trouble, and it doesn't really help.
	Right.
	That's a good way to look at it.
	That uh it the divide and the the echo chambers and the partisanship is really gonna get worse, and then it's gonna be you know, there's a saying it it can got to get worse before it gets better, so that's kind of uh where you think it's it could be heading.
	Yeah, and even mainstreamers are starting to comment on a possible civil war coming up in the future.
	I forget who it was.
	That one comedian who was I'm thinking of that I don't know, but there's a lot of people are starting to see this besides the fringe.
	Well, what do you think of all these all these Republicans just talking about the the Eric Solwell fart?
	Like, why do they even care about that guy?
	Wasn't he pulling it like zero percent and all I'm just seeing fart stuff everywhere?
	Uh because it's stupid and easy and they don't they won't get in trouble for talking about it, and they think they're funny and edgy, it's just dumb.
	And it's where it's just partisan hackery.
	Have you been watching any of the or following any of the impeachment?
	I haven't followed any of it.
	No, no, I I've been like most Americans, most Americans.
	I guess the polls have no concern whatsoever about it.
	People see this just partisanism.
	No one cares that Trump talked to someone in Ukraine about Hunter Biden's corruption.
	I mean, it's not a thing that really excites people.
	So and that shift character, he just looks totally insane.
	If you look at his eyes, his eyes are screwy.
	Have you seen them?
	They look like Andy Coffin.
	It's like a caricature.
	The guy's nuts.
	So I don't know.
	No, but it doesn't have any uh legs.
	I don't think it's just I think the Democrats were doing that to try to keep their crazies in line because the whole Russian conspiracy hoax fell apart, and uh it's not gonna go anywhere.
	He's not gonna be removed from office because it's the Senate's not going to do anything.
	It's just some nonsense theater that's I don't think even as theater is not working very well.
	So and we have election next year, so what what the hell?
	So it's it's not going anywhere.
	You think Trump is gonna be re-elected?
	No, I don't think he has much of a chance because of demographics.
	He only won barely by razor thin margin with some basic states, and based on demographic changes, I don't see he can win.
	I know a lot of people are talking about the Trump slide, and there's all this enthusiasm for Trump.
	Well, yeah, but enthusiasm doesn't translate into votes necessarily.
	And if you look at the demographics, I I I don't see it.
	I think people are being delusional, and that's just reality.
	We're headed towards a one-party state in the United States.
	It's gonna be it's gonna be the uh the SJW radical communist versus the two parties, and then it's gonna be the more uh just average uh Democrats is what we're gonna have to do.
	You know, it's weird too.
	All of this talk about white nationalists and uh you know white supremacists and stuff, and then there's been a few articles that came out recently.
	One was New York Times talking about Virginia turning blue because of demographics, and then there was one in LA time shortly after that.
	Talking about California, the same thing happening.
	And we've been hearing for years about how they're the Democrats want to turn Texas blue, and once Texas turns blue, I don't think another uh Republican or conservative candidate will will ever win in the country again.
	No, of course not.
	Because the people the nation are is the people.
	And if the people change, the nation will change.
	So if you could imagine take every American out of here and they disappear and put like a bunch of Somalis, this place would look like Somalia.
	That's how it is.
	If you replace a population of Japan with Somalia, it'd look like Somalia.
	And in uh Somalia, if they were all Japanese, it would become a prosperous country with the Japanese.
	That the people make the difference.
	So if we replace the people, of course, of course, the country's gonna change, not rocket science there.
	And that's why a country, the whole purpose of the country is to have self-determination and give it interest to the people.
	But we don't care about the people here, so they decided to replace the people.
	So yeah, bad times ahead.
	Well, I saw Charlie Charlie Kirk say that America is just a placeholder for ideas and that it doesn't matter, uh doesn't matter who lives there.
	So uh I don't think we have anything to worry about.
	Well, if he gets a if he gets 800,000 a year, then he can live in a nice mansion with a wall and security, so maybe it doesn't matter to him, but it matters to the real people out there.
	And I think some of us like Net Fuentes probably, and myself and yourself, we care about what's real, and we care about r regular people.
	So uh yeah, uh for the rich, it probably doesn't really matter.
	Right, yeah, they're definitely uh a lot of them are living in their their bubbles.
	That was one of the arguments that they said was oh well if you look at these uh c states that have the most white people actually voted democrat, but that's an interesting phenomena because they live in in white states, so they don't really have to they don't live next to the inner city or next to you know down by uh T the border in in San Diego or that kind of thing,
	so they don't actually experience any of the the negative uh I don't want to say side effects, but uh you know any of the negative aspects of uh this experiment.
	The prejudice I call it prejudice, they're prejudice, they're prejudging people based on what they see on TV, not reality.
	I could show them reality out here.
	It's not what you see on TV.
	And so these people they don't know.
	And if they're around diversity, they they get a quick wake-up call.
	And if the media wanted to, it's all what they focus on.
	If the media wanted to focus on uh crime in in Chicago, like I think that's where where Nick is from.
	If they wanted to focus on that, they could just be fear-mongering the hell out of uh the stories that they want, but instead that'll all be buried in and ignored.
	But if uh you know a white person goes and does something, that'll be you know talked about years from now.
	They'll be using that as examples for uh the evil evil white people.
	Yeah, that's why most umass shooters are not white, but you want to know that because they just ignore it.
	Like there's that shooting in California, and it turned out it was an Asian, and V Dair did a thing, it had to do with the Hamong community or something.
	It was a uh it was like an Asian gang thing.
	It had nothing to do with whites or anything, so they quickly dropped the story.
	But most mass shootings aren't white neo-Nazis.
	That just gets all the attention, mostly is people of color.
	All right, well, let's uh let's wrap it up.
	I enjoyed chatting with you, Ram Ramsey.
	I'm glad we finally got to do this.
	Uh people can find you on Twitter.
	A great follow.
	You're basically uh a powerhouse on Twitter.
	Yeah, you got the blue check mark somehow.
	You're really going to war on some important issues uh with some of these uh Twitter trolls.
	So uh I suggest everybody follow you on Twitter and uh subscribe to the YouTube channel, the the show.
	You guys do uh it's a Saturdays, right?
	Is that right?
	Yeah, happy homelands every Saturday uh uh uh one p.m. central time, and um it's just fun, it's laid back.
	it's about love.
	That's what I'm about.
	Love for everyone.
	Just have self-determination.
	Goodness for all people.
	Let's be able to discuss everything freely.
	That's what I'm about.
	And I think that's what's happy homeland's about.
	And I'm sure that's what you're about.
	You want the best for everyone.
	Absolutely.
	Another uh episode, another video of pure love speech.
	No hate speech here, just all about the truth and uh and justice.
	So uh thanks.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	So YouTube and Twitter.
	Uh anywhere else you want to plug before we wrap it up.
	Uh no, uh, that's basically where you're finding me.
	I think probably most people know me by now.
	But uh thanks, guys, for watching me and uh thank you for inviting me on your show.
	You're a great guest for Happy Homelands, and I had a friend that recommended you, so that that's how I got you on a happy homelands, and so you have a big following all over, even here in Arkansas.
	So uh awesome friend in real life, I uh I R A L friend.
	I did, I I meet a lot of people, and it's a lot of there's mostly all very good people, normal people, they're not crazy, they just care about America and they don't have any hate in their hearts, they're just full of love for everyone.
	Cool.
	All right, guys.
	Well, thank you.
	Thank you, Ramsey, for joining us.
	Uh, enjoyed it, and thank everyone for watching.
	Make sure to like, share, subscribe.
	Uh let I love reading your comments, so let us know uh which what you thought.
	Uh any questions, comments.
	Uh, we'll be reading those.
	And stay tuned for a few days.
	The video I've been working on, it's gonna be powerful.
	Called uh, I think it's gonna be called The Chose What is it?
	I had a documentary called God's Chosen People.
	This is gonna be called Chosen by a God, and we're gonna be talking about uh the real supremacist mindset out there that the ADL is burying.
	So stay tuned for that, and I will see you guys soon.
	Alright, guys, talk to you guys later.

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