He was a member of the BNP, the British National Party, since 2002, where he was a youth leader in college.
And Mark is also the author of The Fall of the Western Man.
His website, The Fall of the Western Man, all the links are below.
And of course, his YouTube channel.
He's still on YouTube for the meantime, although he was caught up in the Vox Edpocalypse purge last week and has been heavily censored for his videos.
He is the host there of the Patriotic Weekly Review, as as Mark likes to call it, the Patriotic Weekly Review.
I was a guest on the show about a month or two ago.
And Mark has some other great videos here as well.
Very insightful analysis and commentary on a lot of very extremely important issues.
And you know, I've seen, you know, if you believe the mainstream media uh hit pieces and lies and slander, you'd think he was uh evil extremist radical, but everything that I've seen, he is very articulate and eloquent and doesn't back down from debates and really uses a lot of logic and facts.
So uh I've been watching and I'm happy to have you here to talk with me.
Thank you for joining me, Mark.
Hello, Adam.
It's great to be here.
You are absolutely phenomenal when you're on my show earlier this year.
Um it's it's been a real real uh pleasure getting to know you as well.
Um you helped me immensely with the debate earlier this week, and since I discovered your YouTube channel, I one of my friends put me on to you.
I've been enjoying your content.
It is always top-tier material, and it's fantastic to see uh a channel like yours grow so rapidly.
Thank you so much.
Well, it's a pleasure to have you here.
I'm looking forward to the talk.
I'm sure we're gonna get into some great stuff.
I feel lucky to have you here right after the big huge debate that you had this week, which you just mentioned, and uh I'm I'm glad I forgot to mention that about how I was uh I was helping you.
I saw you announce the debate, and then uh one on five, you were debating five five uh Jewish fellows from the Israel.
Well, one of them was Indian, one of them what there was four four Jewish, four Jews and one Indian.
But he was the Indian seemed to sort of uh tilt more our way as the debate went through.
Right.
So you went on and uh and I was messaging you during the debate.
I was watching, and I was uh if I had any thoughts like for to respond to what they were saying.
Um I think you used one of the things I said.
Um I it must have been hard, uh I can imagine to try to listen to all of them yelling at you and in and all of their different points and arguments.
So uh, but I think you did mention the part about the Russian Tsar, like who killed him.
I don't know if you saw that I wrote that, but you did mention that when you were talking about the Bolsheviks.
It was quite funny, actually, because I had so much evidence, I had too much.
And when he came to the bit about who was behind communism, it was one of the folders that was buried.
And I I was trying to find the actual folder.
You see, when I debate with these people, I always like to be able to bring something up on the screen to uh not just not so it's just not just my words.
You know, I know who's behind communism.
Um a lot of the people, nearly everyone watching will have done, but for any neutrals, it's important that they know too.
So I brought up the piece about Putin admitting it.
Um, but then they started to try and claim that a lot of people weren't Jewish.
Now we both know, and so does probably most of your audience, that Jews have a habit of changing their names, and they do so in order so they can hide in plain sight.
Now, it's an absolutely uh really an undebatable point that they were they were behind communism.
And in fact, as I was saying, I like to use their own um I like to use their own uh sort of what can I say, their own sources.
I like to bring up news articles from specifically Jewish publications, so Heretz, the Jerusalem Post, the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, and I like to show them in their own words, talking about things they have done which aren't conducive to the good of Western society.
But the communist one was one that, as I said, it was just slightly buried in my huge list of uh things.
And I think that since the debate they've actually pulled down that they pulled down the debate, they pulled down the advertising video for the debate, but they've replaced it with a small video of why they pulled the debate, and they've the only thing they've managed to put into that is a very small clip of them rebutting the argument or attempting to rebut the argument on communism,
because the one thing I couldn't immediately find in my folder, which had over a hundred and fifty different pieces of evidence in, was more was the extra pieces on the communist issue.
Yeah, I've uh I've seen people have emailed me stuff like just huge long lists of so many uh quotes from different books and what different people say, and it's just like it's so well documented who was behind the the Bolshevism and uh in communism.
And uh, but yeah, that it's amazing.
You you debated one-on-five, and they pulled the video down, they took the video down, and and you were just telling me how funny this is that it actually there's an article up of them saying like how awful the debate was.
Yeah, they've there's been a couple of articles, one from the Jewish news and one from the Jewish Chronicle.
Oh, you put it up on screen.
Pro-Israel groups online debate with far-right activists backfires.
So even their fellow um their fellow uh Jews are furious that they held this debate, and they're claiming it was a gigantic loss, that it was something that is only uh backfired on those running the debate because everyone knows that they came out of it very, very badly, and to see their main advocate quit halfway through the debate and storm off screaming and shouting, and all he could keep saying was anti-Semite.
That was the other thing.
Now, at the time when he said anti-Semite, I said, Oh, that that's just a word you people use to silence us, it's a silencing tactic.
But what I should have quoted was um a former Israeli cabinet member, and she said, anti-Semitic, it's a trick.
We always use it to stifle legitimate criticism of Jews and Zionist Israel, and that is from the winner of the 2000 Israel Prize.
Um, I believe her name is pronounced Shulamit Alone.
Now, I should have quoted that as well.
That was also in my folder, and that just goes to show that they know what they're doing when they're using terms like Nazi, when they're using terms like anti-Semite or bigot, hate speech, hate speech.
Exactly.
You know what bothers me?
Uh I was telling you, I was messaging you saying, call him a supremacist.
You know, Zionism is supremacy, uh, totally.
Kabbalah and Chabad and all the influential uh Jewish leaders over there are so supremacists, the headlines that say that uh we're only here to serve them, and that you know, stuff like that from Ovario Yosef and and uh the Revy, it's it's so incredibly supremacist.
I just did a video on BitChute only, all about the supremacy, and that not to mention the debate was about uh their hypocrisy of them wanting to have strong borders and only Jews in their country, but then everybody else, it's uh multiculturalism and diversity, which you won that aspect of the debate for sure.
Oh, uh a hundred percent.
And one thing that always amazes me is almost from the very outset, they won't talk about facts, they won't talk about the actual people behind many of these damaging uh social narratives that are being pushed.
They can just scream Nazi, they just scream anti-Semite.
And one thing that was very, very notable, and I kept saying this.
Well, what about the porn industry?
And when the guy who quit stormed off, he he tried to say, Oh, you're saying that we're purveyors of porn, we're purveyors of filth.
And I kept saying, What about the essay by Dr. Nathan Abrahams?
What about the essay by Dr. Nathan Abrahams?
Now he will know that Dr. Nathan Abrahams is one of the world's foremost experts on pornography.
And he wrote an essay called The Triple Xnics, which is a play on sort of triple X and ethnics, where he outlines not only how, but also why Jews are involved in the porn industry.
And he claims that Jews got involved in the porn industry as a way to express their anti-Christian and anti-white hatred.
And he specifically says it's based on a power fantasy of Jewish males having sex with Catholic girls as a form of defilement.
They are his words, not mine.
Yeah, it's really well documented, but uh I actually told you that I didn't think it would be a strong point to bring that up because I wasn't sure how religious they were.
Because if they were religious, they would just be like, oh, I agree with you, that's bad, that's secular, that's leftism, that's atheist Jews.
You know, they they have that excuse, kind of.
Well, they do and they don't.
I mean, it's like the Karl Marx thing.
They always say, Oh, well, Karl Marx was a secular Jew, he was an atheist Jew.
Um, communist.
Anti-Semitic, they call him that he they mentioned that in the debate that he was anti-Semitic, which he did say um he had some quotes that were uh woke, I guess you could say.
Well, uh they these are the sort of things they come out with, but then what they forget to mention or neglect to mention or sort of willfully hide, is that in communist states such as the Soviet Union, you have some of the most harsh anti-Semitism laws um ever known to man.
Absolutely.
The Bolsheviks took over and made anti-Semitism illegal, and still to this day with Putin in Russia, you can't question World War II, or it's like you go to prison and have to pay huge fines.
And and he's right there with uh uh Rabbi Borrell Lazar, the Chabad leader who's close friends with the Rothschilds and you know the Sanhedrin asked not just Trump to help uh rebuild the temple, but Putin also.
It's like those are their two uh puppets.
Exactly.
And this is you see, the in the interesting thing about the quote that I used about the Soviet government, it was actually from Horetz.
Putin, first Soviet government was mostly Jewish.
Speaking at Moscow's Jewish museum, Russian president says politicians were guided by false ideological considerations.
So this isn't some sort of random clown who's coming out with this.
This isn't a source that's sort of dragged off the very corners of the internet on some blog that could be described as a conspiratorial blog.
This is being reported by Horetz, it's been said by Putin, it was said by Putin at a speech to a Jewish group.
None of this has been um rebutted, none of this has been debated, none of this has been uh you know, debunked until he decided that that wasn't true when it blatantly is true.
And as I said, I always use sources such as Heretz, the Times of Israel, the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, because if you look at the actual, when I say Jewish press, I know a huge amount of Western media is owned by Jews, but when you actually look at papers or publications which are specifically aimed at Jews,
written by Jews for Jews, like Heretz in the times of Israel, you often find a very, very different, different narrative in the pages of those publications than you will do in the pages of publications which are primarily aimed at those of European descent.
They oh yeah, the Israeli press criticizes Israel and the Knesset and Netanyahu far more than American media does.
That's that's always been the case too.
It's well known all around the world, America.
There's just a documentary out recently which I wanted to tell you that because they were disputing that there's any Zionist propaganda in the media, and literally the night before I just watched the most amazing documentary called The Occupation of the American Mind.
It's narrated by Roger Waters of Pink Floyd.
And it's it's amazing, phenomenal documentary, all about how all the Zionist neocon propaganda, pro-Israel stuff on Fox News and all throughout the mainstream media, all the talking points and all of the biased Zionist people that they have on all the time.
There's no question.
And these guys in the debate really showed that they have no integrity or honor, and they're not having an honest debate.
They couldn't even acknowledge that APEC had tremendous influence.
They were even trying to deny that.
Well, that was another one of those really amazing things.
And one thing he used as a kind of distractionary tactic was to try and claim how much money, how much money does APAC make?
How much money does APAC make?
How much power does AIPAC have?
Well, you see, APAC isn't what is known as a PAC.
In America, they have, well, you live a lot closer than Americans and me, and a lot of your audience knows they have PACs, and these PACs do have to report their spending.
But Israel isn't actually a PAC.
It's um it's a different type of group, but members of APAC get involved in these other groups which do have to report their funding.
And what you will find is that APAC coordinates huge amounts of spending that it doesn't have to declare as its own, because it is essentially running that spending through other campaigning groups, controlling those campaigning groups and using it to support or to knock candidates that they don't agree with, or people who dare criticize the state of Israel.
And I made an entire documentary on that, something I think it's about uh 20 uh minutes long, and it discusses how APAC have infiltrated the American political system and how essentially they control huge amounts of very well-funded smaller groups and use those smaller groups to influence politics, but in a way which doesn't directly lead back to APAC.
So it appears as if AIPAC doesn't have as much influence as it does.
But anyone that doubts APAC's influence, anyone that doubts, only has to look at every presidential election.
Every presidential election, both of the leading candidates, so both the Democratic nominee and the Republican nominee go to APAC and give a speech to the delegates at APAC.
So essentially, you have both nominees for the presidential role having to take the knee and beg APAC for support.
What other group in America has that degree of power?
No other group, not even close.
It's uh it's a foreign lobby that openly buys our politicians and strikes tremendous fear and has control over like 99% of Congress, bipartisan support, president after president after president, everybody that even wants to be president has to go there and grovel for their support.
It's uh it's it's so ridiculous, and they couldn't even conceive that that APEC has a lot of power.
I mean, it that shows how intellectually dishonest they were.
And I just gotta say something else funny, uh, a quick point that I noticed.
At one point they were trying to attack you, saying, like, oh, like you're a minority and nobody agrees with you, and only Americans like you, and you don't have a platform, they were saying, which is funny because you've got uh almost a hundred thousand subscribers and they've got 10,000 subscribers.
And the ADL has like 3.8 or uh uh 3,000 subscribers.
So whose ideas are popular are our ideas.
It's just the mainstream media and the algorithms are giving them every advantage to booster them up.
You just did a video last night on the YouTube, didn't you?
I did, it's about the future of the platform.
And one other point on when he was saying you're not popular.
If we weren't popular, if what we were saying wasn't hitting home, if we weren't hitting the mark, if what we were saying was utterly ridiculous and nonsensical, we wouldn't be getting taken off YouTube.
The reason we're being Deplatformed is because not only is what we're saying absolutely true, but also it's getting more and more popular.
And the discourse about Zionist power is now seeping into the mainstream.
More and more people are talking about it.
Celebrities are starting to talk about it and tweet about it.
BDSP.
You are starting to have a huge pushback from both the right and the left.
And essentially, this is something that worries them.
So now they are shutting down channels, they are deleting comments.
YouTube deleted 100 over a hundred million comments in the first three months of this year alone.
Yeah, it's it's a travesty what's happening on YouTube.
I'm I'm doing bit shoot exclusives now to try to get everybody to move over.
Um so a little bit more on the debate, and we'll move on to some other topics, but this is just so juicy.
We could talk a whole two hours just on this debate because there's so much to break down from.
Are you gonna do that on your channel, like uh an in-depth debate breakdown, or are you just moving on?
That was something I really wanted to do.
I'd have loved to have done a live stream, gone over it and broke it all down.
But because of the speech restrictions, you just don't know who's going to be next or what they're gonna take your videos down for.
I mean, all my videos that I produce, all of the ones that are um scripted videos with information, get uh looked over and the scripts are read and passed by a practicing English solicitor before they go online.
So every single one of them is legal under UK law, and it is absol or English law, and it's absolutely absurd that videos that are legal under English law and pass some of the strictest hate laws in the world are now being removed off YouTube.
So YouTube are basically saying that their internal guidelines are stricter than the strictest, some of the strictest uh hate laws in Europe, and this is absolutely insane.
So if I was to do a blow-by-blow breakdown of that debate, adding more info, adding bits of context, I think my channel would have a strike on it straight away.
And at the moment, there is this push for creators like you and I to either move to a different platform or start producing material that would ultimately be rather vacuous in comparison with material we've produced in the past.
Right, right.
Yeah, I saw uh you were talking about how it even if you're careful, which you know I I don't hold back, it's not like I want to say a bunch of nasty things and I have a bunch of hate and I'm holding it back.
I say what's on my mind, but I am careful to try to not get censored, you know, use like uh you know a code word or euphemism here or there, but it doesn't even matter if you're careful, you stick to the facts, you only use their words.
It does if you're exposing truth that they don't want out there, it doesn't matter how careful you are, they will take you down.
So it you just I guess the hardcore stuff put on bit shoot, keep the the more uh safe stuff on YouTube that is that the path forward for now, you think?
It is, but I mean, when we talk about using safe words, I always try to use words and phrases such as uh those of European descent, I try to use words and phrases like those of immigrant descent.
So I am not naming any specific racial groups when I use either of those um comments, and it's very important that we do that because we are trying to stay within their guidelines.
But when I'm producing a video talking about tweets from John Cleese, um, which have been widely reported in every single mainstream newspaper, and I'm simply talking about demographic trends, which again have been widely reported in every mainstream newspaper, and at the same time I am using terms like those of European descent, yet my videos are still being removed.
You've got to start wondering how far is this gonna go.
And if and if you think to um what's been going on on Twitter, people have been banned for calling liberals and Marxists NPCs.
So if you're calling somebody an NPC and using a silly little grey face, um blank expression grey face, and you're getting banned for that, how much further is it gonna go?
Is there are the euphemisms we can use?
I mean, at one time they were banning people for simply having um the three parentheses around names and words.
And I think the way their algorithms are moving and the way their technology has advanced, I think very soon they will be able to just put in whatever words and phrases we are using as a group, and entire videos will go.
And no one is safe.
I mean, when you look at some of the bigger channels, like the Thulian perspective, we've lost um countercurrents publishing.
Patrick Slattery, another guy who helped with the debate, a good friend of mine, you know, he's lost every single video he's ever produced.
His whole channel has never had a strike, never had a single infraction, and it was all just gone in uh in an instant.
Brother Nathaniel had his channel uh with like hundreds of thousands, the whole thing taken down.
It's just uh the biggest burke burning ever.
They're calling they're they're calling people Nazis and then burning their books.
You know, they don't get the the the hypocrisy again.
Well hypocrisy, the the the the the great hypocrisy of that is um when the Nazis were burning books, they weren't actually burning books, they were burning pornography, and they were burning material aimed at children that advocated for nonsense such as transgender studies in schools.
They weren't burning ideological texts, they were burning absolute filth and degeneracy.
What is being destroyed today isn't the filth and degeneracy.
The filth and degeneracy is just one or two clicks away, and you'll find all the filth and degeneracy you want.
What they are destroying today is actual knowledge and political discourse.
And if you actually look at uh recent tweets by people who are pushing the transgender agenda, they are all saying, oh, wasn't this a terrible time in Nazi Germany when all the transgender study books were destroyed?
Well, it it probably wasn't a horrible time for children because they weren't mutilating their own genitals and committing suicide because they'd had a sick ideology pushed upon them.
Yeah, I I I don't want to get uh too off path right now, but I did see you talking about how the idea that all of this how it's it's a something I hadn't thought of, how it's sexualizing children.
Like children don't know anything about sex until they like start you know hitting puberty.
So this idea that young kids, pre-puberty kids are prepubescent children, are thinking about what gender I am is just completely insane.
It is, and what you've got really is you've got people like I think he's called um Desmond is amazing.
Now Desmond is amazing.
Um his parents said he came out as gay or identified as gay before he um when he went to kindergarten when he was about two years old.
Well, what two-year-old child comes out as homosexual?
Why would a two-year two-year-old child even be thinking about who he or she wants to have any form of sexual activity with.
A two-year-old child only begins talking about sexual activity and ideas of gender orientation if they have been absolutely indoctrinated or abused by their parents or carers.
Exactly.
And the more it's gonna be like a crazy uh slippery slope.
Once it gets more and more snowball effect, it'll be in the media more, there'll be more people that are that are this is uh falling for this stuff, and it's just gonna get it's already sliding out of control.
It's it's scary where it's going.
And you know, uh a second ago we were talking about uh the censorship.
Oh, you know, Mark, it's better if you don't do mute, because be mute, I hear a little feedback.
It sounds better to stay off.
Oh, okay.
So it's just sometimes I type to people in the chat and I don't like to give you the uh so sorry about that.
Alright, no problem.
You can you can still do it if you want to chat.
But um, you mentioned something, I saw that some of the new terms for what they're taking down, I believe it was YouTube, but it could have been Twitter or Facebook, you know, who knows which one it was.
It said you can't talk about immigration status.
So you're not allowed to say like somebody is an illegal immigrant, that's enough to get your video taken down, even if you don't break the rule, if it's just brushing up against a rule or it's borderline content, which means they can just arbitrarily take down whatever they want with selective enforcement.
Also, hate speech laws like Canada, they're trying to bring in, the ADL's trying to push in the United States, where it's like you you have to use the right uh gender, gender name for people and stuff, or you can get in big trouble.
Go ahead.
Well, I was just gonna say about this.
It's very interesting reading YouTube's guidelines, and I've read them carefully, and they are purposely written in such a grey and woolly fashion that now anything can really be qualified as hate speech, and they've also said that users who stay within their guidelines, but they feel come close to the guidelines will also face infractions.
Well, that's like playing a game of football, and the referee saying, right, we're gonna have a throw in there, and the striker says, Well, I kept the ball in, I didn't go over the line, the ball was in play.
Well, you were very close to the line, so I'm deciding to give the advantage to the opposition.
You know, there'd be uproar.
The players would walk off the pitch, the referee would get sacked.
And this is what they're doing.
They're saying we are overseeing this game, and we are going to interpret the rules in any way we see fit, and even if you haven't broken them, even if by our interpretation you haven't broken them, we still might penalize you.
And that just shows how there really isn't any way we can win.
And I was talking to somebody the other day, or when I say any way we can win, any way we can win on YouTube.
But there is plenty of ways we can win, and one of them's adopting alternative platforms.
But one thing I was saying to someone the other day, technically, if you said you were arranging a hike up the side of a mountain for um healthy bodied uh males, you could actually be banned under hate speech because you'd said healthy bodied, so you were discriminating against uh disabled people, and you'd said males, so you weren't being gender inclusive.
So simply by arranging a scouting event for healthy bodied males, you could be kicked off YouTube under their new guidelines if they chose to.
And they would have every right to do that because their rules are written in such a grey, an open-ended fashion, that they can encompass things which are absolutely um reasonable and absolutely benign.
Exactly.
Like the the way they describe uh their their guidelines on YouTube, it's like anything that could incite hate, that means like any word, basically, you're not allowed to be a journalist and expose any kind of crime or wrong, wrongdoing or injustice in the world, which if you're not exposing and making some um you know big powerful person mad, you're not doing journalism essentially.
It's weak journalism.
So taking away on the monopoly, the public forum, uh selectively, people who are exposing uh corruption in the establishment and you know, Zionism, whatever, it's just uh it's obvious what they're doing and they're getting away with it, but I don't want to get too much into the censorship.
I want to try to bring it back to the debate, because this guy here, how he was just like, you're an anti-Semite and hate speech, and I'm leaving, I didn't even talk to you, and he didn't refute any of your points and just like the righteous indignation, like he's got the moral high ground when really he's just psychologically projecting like i his supremacy.
If he's a Zionist, he supports supremacy, and he's just trying to you know push it all on you, essentially.
Well, the the interesting thing was one of the final things he said.
He said that my point was that um I was saying, he was claiming that I was trying to say that Jews living in the West should behave themselves, and if they don't, they should move to Israel.
Now, that was an absolutely insane point, because I don't think a single um person of European descent could go to the state of Israel, attempt to make it their home, and not be thrown out if they acted in a way that was not conducive to the well being of the Israeli state.
And what he was essentially saying is that ultimately anyone that goes to Israel must be in a way that is conducive to the well being of that state.
But all of those who come to the West should have absolute freedom to behave in any way they want, which again is another one of these huge, huge hypocrisies.
In fact, one of the other guys on there, Brian of London said that people who go to Israel and advocate on behalf of the Palestinians should be removed from Israel.
They should be deported.
Now can you imagine if I would have suggested deportations, which I didn't, for um Zionists in the UK who are advocating for open borders.
If I'd have said that, I could have ended up being arrested the next day.
But he can sit there and openly say we want rid of anybody coming to Israel to advocate on behalf of the Palestinians.
And they think that's completely reasonable, and they sit and they nod and they smile.
But if somebody says, Well, you know what, maybe you guys should respect us.
Maybe you guys should actually behave in a way that's conducive to our well-being when you're living in the West, and then they start talking about the Holocaust.
He started saying, I wanted to put him on a uh a cattle truck and send him to a death camp.
It's like every time they have to go to that.
Like that's their only debate strategy is call people anti-Semitic Nazis and then bring up the you know World War II.
Exactly, because it's so emotive.
It's a weaponized subject.
And I've always said there are three pillars to white guilt.
There are three pillars to white guilt.
There is the Holocaust, there is slavery and colonialism.
And those are three topics that are the most lied about topics in history, and they are used to instill white guilt amongst those of European descent to make us hate ourselves and to morally disarm us when we are advocating for our own rights and well-being.
So I was simply saying we want a homeland for our own people.
We have the right to exist, and he was saying, well, the Holocaust, checkmate, you don't.
Well, I think that's absolutely absurd, especially when you look at acts like the Holodomor, which Israel refuses to acknowledge.
The state of Israel refuses to acknowledge acts like the Holodomor, and they think that's absolutely okay.
They think that not acknowledging the Holodomor is absolutely a reasonable thing.
But if anyone was to question any facet of the official narrative on the Holocaust, and all of a sudden, there is absolute outrage.
Yeah, yeah.
The fact that we need to talk about that kind that issue on BitChute speaks volumes in itself, that that's uh one of the things they go after the the most.
But um, yeah, that it's like a never-ending mass collective guilt for the Europeans and and then uh eternal innocent victim in sympathy for them and they just bring it up uh every single time.
You know, the the that uh Knesset member of the woman that said anti-Semitism was a trick, she she mentioned uh polling the HALA card as well in that video.
They always do it, it is their Trump card.
But what you've got to ask yourself is if we're talking about suffering, if we're talking about pain, if we're talking about death, and if that's what matters, if the reason they bring up the Holocaust is something to do with suffering and that human suffering is bad,
then if we take their official number, if we take the official statistic off six million, that absolutely pales into comparison with the hundred million that have been killed in the name of Marxism,
have been killed by communist regimes, millions and millions in China, millions and millions in the Soviet Union, eight to ten million in the Ukraine, um, by means of forced starvation, you know, the killing fields of Cambodia.
I mean, look at the mountains of skulls that are in the world.
The Zionist War of Terror and you know in our lifetime also.
All of these things.
Yet it's not about death.
It's not about suffering.
Because if it was, we'd be talking about the Holodomor.
But we are only talking about the Holocaust.
Because in the UK, the Holocaust is the one historical occurrence which is central to every curriculum.
It's the one thing that no British school is allowed to remove from the curriculum.
So every child is force fed this diet of the Holocaust, the Holocaust, six million, Nazi monsters, white people should hate themselves.
But if you said to children, do you know about the Red Terror?
Do you know about the gulags?
Do you know about the Holodomor?
Do you know about the killing fields of Cambodia or the Great Leap Forward?
They'd look at you as if you'd fallen off the face of the moon.
They would never have heard of these things.
And all of the things that I have just mentioned are constantly debated.
Some people deny them absolutely, and no one bats an eyelid.
Yet again, the Holocaust is the only historical occurrence which you can be imprisoned for questioning any facet of.
And the amazing thing about so-called Holocaust denial is if you question any facet of the official narrative, if you question the roller coasters of death, if you say that maybe only five million nine hundred and ninety-nine thousand nine hundred and ninety-nine people were killed in the Holocaust.
If you question the numbers by just one, that is classed as Holocaust denial, and that can land you with a prison sentence in many nations around the world.gov says that if they exaggerated any aspect of it, that's anti-Semitism.
But we've seen so many people busted about lying about stories or you know, hearing you know, myths and repeating them that turned out not to be true.
So the fact that they could they can if if it's the law that they you can't call them out for exaggerating something, that gives them the ability to exaggerate anything and to be able to get to get away with any kind of lie that they want if there's no debate or scrutiny allowed.
But what one more thing on this debate, and and that is uh they posted it live, it streamed live.
There was like I do you know how many people were watching, like 1300 or something like that?
Uh about 14, 1500 people, I believe, at the peak.
It was it was quite well viewed.
I mean, I believe if we had proper uh algorithms that actually pushed things up that were popular, it could have been one of the top streaming things on the on the platform at the time.
Possibly, yeah.
Uh well, YouTube will never allow allow you to uh trend or show up over here in the recommended um so the important people know this is they'd never posted it after it was live, they pulled it down, then they put up this little five-minute hit piece where this guy's like, oh, it was it was so racist, and the chat was full of so much hate, we had to pull it down.
You know, if if he you were so awful and they were so right and won the debate, they should leave it up so everybody can see you embarrass yourself and them just dominate you with their logic and facts, you know.
But no, they took it down, they put up this little segment, and look at the thumbs down.
1.3,000 thumbs down to 230 up, and they had to remove the comments here as well because they just they can't handle.
Can't handle it.
Well, just one last one last point on this.
I this was another piece that we never got to in the debate, but um the the head of the Jerusalem office of the Simon Wiesenthal Center said that the the holodomor is definitely his words not mine, is definitely not a genocide, and Israel should not recognize the Holodomor as a genocide.
So the Simon Wiesenthal Center wants to completely deny the suffering of those of European descent when it is at the hands of Jewish people, but it exists primarily to make European people feel guilty for crimes that they allegedly committed against the Jewish people.
Yeah, in Norman Finkelstein's book The Holocaust Industry, where he says that they're uh they're crooks like straight out of the elders of the forgery and um that they have a what they're trying to do is they want to have a monopoly on suffering because it makes them like unique and and special in a way, and they can all always uh you know bring it up like the Trump card, like you said.
No, no, well, that's that's the they have two unique traits, two unique mindsets make up um their psyche.
One is that they are the chosen people, and they often refer to themselves as the chosen people.
So, in a very real way, they are supremacists and they believe themselves to be superior, but on the other hand, they have another very unique and almost contradictory mindset, and that is they are absolutely persecuted.
So, on one hand, they believe they're better than everyone else, and on the other, they believe everyone else is out to get them, and that creates a very powerful um feeling of in-group preference amongst them that they have to stick together, they have to maintain their superiority, but equally they have to stop everyone else who is trying to get at them.
So they stick together as a group, they have this powerful in-group preference, but they realize the power of that in-group preference, and then try to break down the in-group preference of other groups, such as um those of those of European descent,
and they then engage in activities which are not conducive to our well-being, and often undermine, attack and erode family values, and attack the nuclear family, which is of course the foundation of any uh successful civilization.
Yeah, the the victimhood status is a very powerful position to uh to uh position yourself in.
And uh you have to the the book The 48 Laws of Power, it talks about how the person that's always pretending to be the moral one and and to be the victim to watch out for them.
It was like he's describing the the ADL uh to the T. It's almost like they even have to be the best at being hated.
You know, all the studying and oh, anti-Semitism is rising, and that's another telling thing.
They always say anti-Semitism is rising.
The answer to that, more education on World War II, which shows that they use that to try to stifle uh so they can get away with their Zionist uh agenda, which really is building a temple, fulfilling their prophecies, and enslaving the non-Jews, or having the non-Jews be Noahide law followers where they have to worship Israel and the Jewish people.
I mean, it's all in their own words in the books.
I just put it up on BitChute.
Well, it's very important that people educate themselves on issues of World War II, and I recommend the greatest story never told, and also the documentary called Hellstorm, which deals with um the horrors that the German people were subjected to after the Second World War,
and actual massacres and mass starvations of people who uh were in prisoner of war camps that served um as part of the Wehrmacht or other German military units, and these things are absolutely horrific, and you can see the way history has been absolutely twisted,
and the way um I mean, when you speak to people about that history, uh people actually do believe that Germany declared war on Britain and other nations, when in fact it was Britain who declared war upon Germany, and it was Winston Churchill who was quite a large supporter of uh Zionism who was absolutely desperate to ensure that the war was as brutal and destructive as possible.
And what does that plunged Europe into?
Well, it's plunged Europe into this multicultural state which is wriggled with uh sexual deviancy, cultural Marxism, and every form of mental uh madness you can imagine.
And Europe now, it's it is not a better place, it is not a safer place, it is not a place where European people um even feel at home anymore.
Because of the results of that war, Europeans are now second-class citizens in their own homelands, and the people of Eastern Europe suffered unmentionable crimes at the hands of their Soviet overlords.
It's just amazing.
It feels like we're like living in a crazy dystopian movie where just a hundred years ago, uh the not even a hundred years ago, the biggest biggest war, World War II, and now it's like there's an official version, and then no one is around the whole world is allowed to talk about it or question it.
And if you just deviate a little bit from the official narrative, you're just you're out of work, you're pounded, you're de-platformed.
Like, isn't that scary?
Like just thinking of that, forgetting all the rest of it, just thinking about that point alone.
That is very disturbing that we can't talk about such uh pivotal event in history.
No, of course.
And it's very interesting as well, because when you look at the uh founding of the state of Israel, Israel was actually founded on ethnic cleansing, it was founded on massacres, and it was founded upon terrorism.
And interestingly, Britain was one of the uh victims of that terrorism.
The bombing of the King David Hotel, the uh the hanging of British soldiers.
It w it was terrible.
And you look at things like the Dare Ya Sin massacre, where hundreds and hundreds of Palestinians woke up to find Israeli gunmen rampaging through their settlement, massacring them in the dead of night.
That state was built on the kind of atrocities that they claim they are the victims of.
And I find it again another great hypocrisy that things like that cannot be talked about because when you actually examine the truth of these historical occurrences, they are often very different to the way you are taught about them in schools.
Well, you know, the Orwell quote who controls the present controls the past, controls the future, and uh it's it's just obvious it's a common sense that history is written by the victors, and uh, but let's try to keep this video up.
I don't even think I I didn't have a note here to get into uh World War II at all.
We're asking for some limited state on this one.
Um I want to ask you, Mark, about the the BMP, because uh I've talked about the BMP before, mostly just uh proving of like of all the controlled opposition uh controlled opposition Zionist uh in the media, the Trump supporters, with uh Nick Griffin's uh coming out saying that the EDL or Zionists came to us offering us money to focus on Islam and not talk about the banks.
Uh what what's your take on on that?
Can you elaborate on that?
I obviously I worked with Nick Griffin for a long time, and Nick Griffin um I remember when I was stood with Nick Griffin in London, and Nick Griffin gave a speech to people saying that he would tear down the statue of Winston Churchill in London because Winston Churchill had brought nothing but misery upon Europe and um on Britain.
I was stood there when he said those words, and he was somebody who is absolutely um committed to anti-Zionism.
Nick Griffin did not want the British National Party to be controlled by people who advocated for Zionist power, and the British National Party was approached by different groups who wanted to fund it,
but there were absolute caveats to their funding, and those were that we only spoke about the issue of Islam, the effects of Islam, but we were not allowed to criticize Israel, we were not allowed to criticize Zionism, and we were also not allowed to talk about Zionist Israeli or Jewish groups that advocated for the mass migration of Muslims and other um groups into the UK.
And Nick Griffin, I mean, I'm not on great terms with him now.
Uh, we we certainly don't speak anymore, we fell out, but to his credit, Nick Griffin totally rebutted those advances and would have nothing to do with it.
And when you look at the operation of other groups like the EDL, you can see where the Zionists went with their money when the BMP rejected them.
Absolutely, yeah.
It sounds exactly like you're describing Tommy Robinson, Lauren Southern, all the rebel media people, basically all of the alt-light, essentially.
That's what alt-light means to me is just uh people that are on the right that are Zionists, essentially.
Exactly.
And what's more, I just want to touch on the Lauren Southern thing.
Um, Lauren Southern had the gall to make a documentary called Borderless, which was largely scripted by two Hope Not Hate informants, and she sat with the head of an NGO of an Israeli NGO, um, an actual Israeli herself, who was bringing uh migrants into Europe, teaching them how to lie to the authorities, and she sat there and refused to name the ethnicity of that woman.
Now, Squatting Slav did an amazing video on this.
I think it's called something like what Lauren Southern isn't telling you, Red Ice did a very similar video, and I did an hour and a half expose on Hope Not Hate and how they were manipulating Lauren Southern from behind the scenes, and some people didn't believe me, but when Borderless came out, that documentary was a complete disgrace.
Where instead of concluding that this mass migration is doing huge, huge uh damage to European nations, she concludes that it's just bad for everyone, and maybe some of them should come here, but the right ones aren't getting here.
Well, that's just nonsense.
It's like these people who live in America and are so cooked, I call them cuxervatives, and they constantly say, Well, we're we're only against illegal immigration.
What?
So if Trump says it's legal all of a sudden for um a hundred million sub-Saharan Africans to flood into America, is that all of a sudden a good thing?
Because somebody's got a little rubber stamp and whacked it on a piece of paper to state legal.
That doesn't make any sense.
This definition between legal and illegal immigration is something which doesn't really add up because as soon as you have one of these ridiculous amnesties and all the illegal aliens just become American citizens, what do they transform overnight because somebody's hit that piece of paper with a rubber stamp?
Of course they don't.
They still pose the same threats to the American way of life as they did the previous day when they were classified as something else.
Uh Trump at CPAC, there was a video that was a clip from his speech, he was like, We're gonna we need even more legal immigrants because there's so many jobs, and a bunch of people were really mad, and I guess Kushner was working the immigration deal too, which people were real concerned about that.
Um you did a video, so Milo, like last week or two weeks ago, he came out with this huge article uh trashing uh Lauren Southern and and uh Colin Robertson and her two uh her two uh producers.
Yeah.
And uh her her two producers, and uh you did a video exposing Hope Not Hate a few months ago as well, and and Tommy Robinson kind of touched on that in his uh panorama video.
He called Lauren Southern and called her out, sorta.
Um what do people need to know that about uh hope not hate and uh and Robinson and Southern and all these people?
Well, the most thing important thing I can say on this issue is people need to watch my video.
It's on my channel, it's about an hour and a half long, but I was the one who laid the groundwork, and then when Milo came out with his um huge, huge expose, it was essentially just going over what I said, but adding detail because he was one of the people who'd been attacked by them.
They were passing information.
Calen Robertson and George Llewellyn John, um two homosexuals, were working for Lauren Southern as her production team.
Both of them were in regular contact with operatives from Hope Not Hate for around two years.
And when I say regular contact, I mean calling them, emailing them, meeting them.
They were in such regular contact that Hope Not Hate flew to Italy to meet them whilst they were filming Borderless and shared bedrooms with them.
And Lauren Southern knew all of this was actually going on.
She knew all of this was happening.
She covered it up, she joked about it, and when Tommy Robinson actually went to her and said, What's going on here?
Do you know about this?
At first she tried to deny it, then he pressed her on it, and she reluctantly admitted it, and she admitted herself to having met representatives from Hope Not Hate.
And when she released Borderless, and when she knew it was more than just me, because again, she's another one.
I don't listen to Mark Collett, you know, he's a he's a fringe guy, don't listen to him, you know, just keep giving me the beta bucks, pay piggies, you know, that was her message.
But when she knew that Milo and a group of other people were on to her, and when people like Paul Joseph Watson and others started to sort of say, wow, people need to listen to this, she cannot be trusted at all.
She announced her retirement and disappeared into the sunset with huge amounts of money.
And my big thing, look, I don't have a problem with anyone earning a decent living.
You know, if you're making 40,000, 50,000, $60,000 a year from spreading the truth, great.
But if you're making 400,000, 500,000, 600,000 a year, you don't need that to make a good living.
You could be using that money to start an actual political movement.
The BNP ran an entire political party for years on between quarter and half a million pounds with multiple paid members of staff with offices, um, with a newspaper, with a magazine, and these people making this massive, massive amount of money, should be ploughing large portions of that money back into the movement to do real world activities.
Because if they're not doing that and they're just using it to pay off a gigantic mortgage on some condo on a hillside somewhere, that is not somebody that anyone should be trusting or anyone should be investing in.
Because those people are looking if you think of Western civilization, think of this as an analogy.
You think of Western civilization as some sort of mighty beast walking across the plains, and it was once proud and it was once strong, but now it seems to be faltering and it keeps falling over and it's looking in a bad state.
Some people are running around trying to administer medical care to this creature, get it back on its legs, get it back fighting fit so it becomes what it once was.
Other people, on the other hand, are more like vultures, and they're flying around, circling, swooping down and taking pecs out of it and getting fat off simply reporting on the problems, but not trying to solve any of those problems.
And that is exactly what Lauren Southern became, and her camera crew were far worse because all of them were actually working with the people trying to destroy Western civilization and profiting from both sides.
And in the end, it's been alleged that they stole tens and tens of thousands of people, uh sorry, people, tens of tens of thousands worth of money off people who are trying to talk about these issues, which is absolutely disgusting.
Right, right.
And uh during the European election, you were doing some uh scathing commentary for Sargon of Akkad and also uh Tommy Robinson.
Uh what do you think about Tommy's campaign?
Uh definitely controlled by by Zionist uh through and through, right?
Look, uh I'll tell you about Tommy's campaign.
Everything to do with Tom, and I've heard this from people on the inside, everything about his campaign was controlled by Zionists.
His leaflet was designed by a Zionist who lives in Canada.
His legal operations were being run by Ezra Lavant, and also the coverage on the night was run by Ezra Lavant, again, another Zionist.
He had a man on the ground running his um actual day-to-day campaign and campaigning with him, a guy called Avi Yemeni from Australia, another Zionist who flew all the way to Britain to work with him, and the other person who is funding a large portion of what he does is um another Zionist who runs the American Middle East Forum.
All of these people are putting huge amounts of money into him, they are managing him on a day-to-day basis, they surround him, and his campaign went nowhere.
And one of the reasons his campaign went nowhere, I have produced leaflets that have been successful on all levels of governance.
I've had people elected to um European Parliament to the London Assembly at local council level at county council level.
I know how to produce a good leaflet.
And Tommy Robinson, whether we like it or not, um, and in some ways he does push certain things that need to be spoken about, and I I can't knock his bravery.
I mean, he went to prison for um uh breaching court orders and talking about Muslim grooming gangs.
So I've got to be.
Have you ever met him or talked to him?
I've I've spoken to him once.
I have never um I have never met him in person.
Was it on air, like in a video in a video or just privately?
I spoke to him privately on one occasion.
Um however, what I'll say about his leaflet, his leaflet looked like a cheap pizza advert.
It looked like a Papa John's flyer, it was terrible.
And I believe that those controlling him and those running his campaign run him, so it focuses on Islamic uh gangs and nothing more, but he will never get any serious power because all of it is just a way to raise huge amounts of money, and where that money goes, I don't know.
And to control the opposition to to uh the immigration and cover up who the the bigger agenda behind it all to kind of it's like a release valve.
All the people that are upset with the Islamification of their uh their their cities and their towns, they want they need somewhere to go to, so if that's controlled, you know, in the paradigm.
You know, I wanted to mention one other uh interesting connection with Tommy Robinson, is not just the Middle East Forum and Ezra Levant at Rebel Media, but Robert Shilman, who is a tech billionaire that donates heavily to the Technion Institute, there's a statue of him there, and then you do he he funds uh rebel media and the Friends of Israel, he sits on the board of the Friends of Israel Defense Forces, the Jewish Foundation for the Righteous.
I guess that's the righteous uh Gentile, the Noah Hyde Gentiles.
The David Horowitz Freedom Center funds James O'Keefe, the rebel media.
So that's you know, uh Tommy was a Shilman fellow.
That was his title for some point.
So sh funny the name Shilman, right?
People usually get a crack out of that.
No, it is.
And you've got to remember though, for working class communities, Tommy is very much a hero because many working class communities in the UK are under siege by um hostile Muslim communities who are perpetrating huge crimes against white girls.
They're sexually abusing them, they're grooming them, they're doing horrific things to them.
And Tommy speaks out about that.
So these people love Tommy and they think he is the way forward, but he will never actually talk about those who are behind multiculturalism.
He won't talk about those pushing the open border policy.
And that is the issue, and I think that is what many of these Zionist organizations want.
They want to control the opposition to multiculturalism so that it never names groups like the British Board of Deputies, who, whilst on one hand, they absolutely support and advocate for the state of Israel, but on the other hand, they absolutely support and advocate for open borders for Britain.
Yeah.
Uh, you know, Nick Griffin in one of his videos called Tommy Robinson like a useful goy or a stupid goy or something like that.
How has nobody like gotten cornered Tommy and like forced him to talk about uh all of his Zionist support?
I know that there's an old video of him mentioning it, somebody cornered him, but like nowadays, like how how has nobody put the pressure on him to talk about uh Zionism and the bigger agenda behind uh multiculturalism, the religion of diversity.
Well, firstly, he he is very well protected.
He has people, as I said, you you don't really know what a phenomenon he is unless you live in the UK.
You speak to normal people, and normal people on the street are all aware of him.
He is a de facto sort of regular political celebrity.
Everywhere he goes, people know him and they either love him or they hate him.
But he has a huge amount of support.
He is constantly Protected.
And he always not from milkshakes, right?
Not from milkshakes, no.
But he he would never allow himself to get into any position where he was questioned on these things, and he certainly wouldn't debate them.
And what's more, when he does appear on different events or different sort of uh scheduled events like this on YouTube, they are usually on channels like Rebel the Rebel.
So he's on Rebel Media, he sat with Ezra Levant, Ezra Levant wheels him out and uses him because that brings in the super chats, it brings in the donations, it brings in huge numbers of names and addresses, which he can then use to solicit more donations.
And when you look at Ezra Levant's uh operations, it really has two, I believe it has two main objectives.
Firstly, it's to keep people from ever going the full way and knowing the full truth.
But secondly, it is to make huge, huge amounts of money.
And when you look at how much money that organization turns over, solicits in donations, and everything is always a campaign, but it's a campaign which never achieves anything.
So there's always campaign to stop this.
Well, how are you stopping it?
Are you getting somebody elected?
Are you going out there?
Are you challenging people?
Are you raising awareness?
Are you talking to people on the street?
Oh no, you're producing a URL which is going to have a campaign page, which will have donation buttons, every other word.
Free Laura Loomer.
Exactly.
Just completely.
It's funny that uh Colin Robertson from uh all of this, he uh did an expose on Rebel Media and called them out for their, you know, sign up for our mailing list, you know, making all this muddy and not giving it out to people.
Um is it is it safe to say that you've got a you know, I've seen your debate five uh five on one the other day on the Israeli advocate.
I saw you do a debate last week too with um Lucy Brown on her show.
Who was that debate you did?
It was a guy called Mystery Rob.
Mr. Rob, yeah.
The mystery was where his uh testicles had gone.
No, you you uh you dominated him in that one as well.
So I'd like to see a Tommy Robinson, Mark Colette uh Battle of the Britons debate.
I'd like to see that happen.
If you can set that up, if you can set that up, I will be more than happy to participate.
Any and that that frozen out.
There's two people I would love to debate.
The first is Tommy Robinson, I'd love to debate him.
In fact, not even debate, just have a friendly chat, put the facts in front of his nose and see what he says.
And the other person I'd like to debate um is a guy that sort of follows me around onto different streams saying that I lie about things.
He's called Jack Buckby.
He's another one of these people who claims that everything all he does is sit in streams when I'm on them, just saying he is lying, he is lying, but presents no rebuttal, and he claims um he's another one of these alt-light sort of shysters, and I would very much love to debate either of them on these issues and present the kind of evidence I was presenting the other night,
but on a much much more focused issue, which is cultural Marxism and the push for multiculturalism and mass immigration, which is driven by many of these Jewish groups.
It was like when I was saying the other night, they were like, well, you know, uh what this is only a couple of this is only a couple of Jews.
Well, Hyas managed to get the signatures of 1,500 rabbis in the United States, all of them calling for open borders.
And I saw an amazing video that you did that I shared on the day of the debate on my Twitter, where you actually um have footage of a Jewish girl who is saying she says, Rabbis don't agree on anything, but I got 1,200 of them, a number which rose to 1,500, in fact, to agree on open borders.
So this is someone who says it's impossible to get rabbis to agree on anything, but the one thing they all agree on is open borders for America.
I mean, when you listen to that, how can you put that information in front of anyone and they not say it's from their own mouths, it all adds up.
You know, they're even saying we don't agree on anything except for this one issue, which is basically flooding Western nations with migrants.
Right.
Uh you mentioned one thing, you mentioned cultural Marxism.
Uh That they're coming after that term that you can't even use that term anymore.
That's uh quote unquote anti-Semitism now to even talk about you know uh something like that, Marxism, a philosophy.
And then uh, you know, in their own words, this was something I sent you because the debate you had the other day was about the double standard of Israel being a racial ethno state, but them pushing open borders and diversity and uh multicultural religion everywhere else.
And look here, Exodus 233 says, They shall not dwell in thy land lest they make thee sin against me, for if thou serve their gods, it will surely be a snare unto thee.
So only is Israelis, only Jews can be in the holy land, is what Exodus 2333 says.
And then go ahead.
No, I was just gonna say, when you look at the people behind the Frankfurt school, again, every one of them was of Jewish descent, and it's a mixture of Marxism and Freudian psychoanalysis.
And then here's another one, too.
Just so you see, it's like in their own religion, essentially.
For from the top of the rocks I see him, and from the hills I behold them, the people shall dwell alone.
The people shall dwell alone.
So that's why it's okay for Zionists to pass the Jewish state law and to have their you know, their strong defensive borders and walls and all that, but then for everywhere else, it's gotta be uh world, you know, communist global internationalism.
That this idea go ahead.
I was just gonna say you just talked about a border wall.
I've just got to bring this up.
When they debate a border wall in Congress, no one can agree to give Trump money for anything more than a poxy little fence.
I think they gave him 50 billion for a fence.
Um whereas when we start talking about Israel, Israel gets given 38 billion a year, much of which it spends on enforcing its border and preventing anyone from crossing that border.
So whilst the American whilst American Congress can't find the money for a border war for America, it can find the money for a border war for Israel.
Yeah, that that money ends up going one way or another to the ADL who goes down to our border and says, let's uh open them up and let uh you know map pushes mass immigration and then tries to shut down and deplatform anybody that calls out Israel's hypocrisy.
Just in I want to show one other, just to show uh in their own words, there's also this one too, about you know, they say it's a conspiracy that they want to uh you know, rule anything or that they have any power or control, that's an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory, according to their state definition.
For the Lord thy God blessed thee as he promised thee, and thou shalt lend unto many nations.
Thou shalt use usury to enslave the other nations with debt, but thou shall not borrow, and thou shall reign over many nations, but they shall not reign over thee.
I mean, it isn't it not just blatant supremacy?
How do these people, how does that guy point at you and say, you're hate speech, you're a supremacist, and then sign off like he's got the moral high ground when the when what's going on in Israel with Zionism.
Well, when you if you want to talk about um Jewish supremacy, I do actually have I have I have a few quotes on that.
Um because there is actually a case of uh an Israeli, Israeli lawmaker, Israeli lawmaker proclaims the supremacy of the Jewish race.
Likud's M. Mickey Zohar says Jews are the smartest in the world, so he knows that Netanyahu isn't corrupt.
And you do have regularly people who are high up in the Israeli cabinet, high up in Israeli government, who will talk about the supremacy of the Jewish people.
They claim they are the greatest.
And to a degree, and again, I've got to be completely honest and open here.
I don't blame them actually For saying that.
Loving your own people, thinking your own people are the best, wanting to be around your own people, is not something that should be demonized.
What I have a problem with is the fact that they love their own people.
They proclaim that their own people are the best.
They want to be around their own people, but anyone else, especially those of European descent, who say the same about their own people, are then shouted down as racist.
So they can claim to be the best.
They can claim they want to be around each other, they can have their in-group preference.
But when we have ours, we are shouted down and painted out to be devils incarnate.
I think it's disgusting that they're supremacists and they think they're chosen and they have higher souls and we're just like animalistic, like cattle and only here to serve them, you know, on and on.
It's like I've been reading these books, it's like they've been sitting around arguing for hundreds of years on how much better they are than the non-Js, but it's the supremacy is just so blatant, and that they're in the position to censor anybody that talks about it, is what makes me so angry.
Like they could have those views if they want to be crazy and think that they're better than everybody and they're gonna rule the world from their temple and have animal sacrifices.
You know, I guess that's their right to do it, but the fact that they're in the position where they can actually implement these beliefs and they're enforcing and being successful, like with their control over politicians and and uh entertainment and media and news and all that stuff, that's where it's disturbing.
They're actually getting away with this supremacy.
Well, let's talk about another aspect of supremacy and another aspect um of it is you'll actually like this because it's going to tie into Tommy Robinson.
Now, Tommy Robinson and um many others in the UK love to point out, and in the US, love to point out when Muslims do certain things.
They love to point out um the issue of grooming gangs, they love to point out um the horrors of halal slaughter.
But if you say to these people, what about kosher slaughter, they don't have a problem with it, even though it's exactly the same.
And I will, in a nutshell, sum up how much power these Zionist or pro-Israeli or pro-Jewish groups have.
In um certain facets of the Jewish Orthodox community, they have a practice called oral suction.
Now, oral suction is when a rabbi circumcises a male Jewish baby uh in a synagogue, and then he places his lips on the penis of the Jewish baby to suck off um any excess blood.
Now, if anyone that doesn't believe me, there are many pictures of this on the internet, there are many stories about this, and there are in fact stories about um how Jewish babies have actually been infected with herpes during this practice.
It's it's quite disturbing.
Now I can tell you this.
If there were stories about Muslim communities doing this, if there were stories about things like this going on in mosques, Tommy Robinson would have it all over placards, so would Pamela Geller, so would all these other anti-Jihadists, and they would be marching up and down every street in Britain and America talking about this.
However, as it is the Jewish community doing it, people like Tommy Robinson don't want to know.
And I've actually encountered um people who are on the British um sort of nationalist scene who, when they have been challenged about the issue of kosher slaughter, they have said that should absolutely be legal, it should be supported, and it's completely different to halal slaughter.
And if you were to talk about the issue I've just raised now, they would either completely deny it or call it um part of um Jewish culture that they may not necessarily agree with, but they wouldn't want to interfere with.
And this is the double standard.
This is the double standard.
If you were to go to Tommy Robinson tonight and talk about this rather horrific and disturbing issue, which is going on in the West, like if they want to do this things like that in Israel, I will never agree with practices like that.
I think they're Absolutely foul and abhorrent.
However, if they want to do them in their own country, it's none of my business.
But the fact they are going on in Western nations and these so-called nationalists would never ever mention something like that, but at the same time are tripping over themselves to discuss Islam for any reason shows that there is this Zionist double standard, even amongst the nationalist community.
Right, right.
Yeah, it's funny that you went into the uh circumcision, because I was just going to mention that's a huge double standard as well.
They always like to say, oh, the Arabs and the Muslims, they do female genital mutilation, but it's like, okay, you guys also are doing the snippet as well.
Male genital mutilation.
Also the double standard that they're always uh fear-mongering about uh Sharia law, but they say nothing about the Noahide laws, which which are equally disturbing and actually written into a bill in the United States in 1991 that that uh President Bush uh signed into law, the Noahide laws.
Not that they're enforced, but they are in there in the language.
And also the another hypocrisy is they all these Zionists you mentioned, Pamela Geller, they had the draw Mohammed contest, like where they're all defiant and you know standing up for free speech.
But the same very same people that supported the draw Mohammed contest lost their minds when there was this anti-Semitic cartoon in the New York Times with Netanyahu leading Trump or a blind Trump around.
No, this exactly, and and these are the double standards.
Now, I believe here in the UK, if people want to draw a cartoon of Mohammed, they should be absolutely allowed to do that.
Um you should be absolutely allowed to do that.
But if you're absolutely allowed to do that, you should absolutely be allowed to draw a humorous cartoon that offends or ruffles the feathers of any other religious or ethnic minority.
And I just find it absolutely um mind-boggling how these so-called counter-Jihadists take such absolute pleasure in insulting Islam in any way they can.
But if you were to even utter the most mild criticism of the state of Israel, they go out of their minds.
And again, that's another huge and really uh pertinent hypocrisy that we need to talk about is the fact that here in the West, we are meant to value the right to criticize the state you live in.
Well, people in Britain are free to criticize the British state, but very soon they won't be free to criticize the state of Israel.
Well, imagine that.
A Western state making it illegal to criticize one particular foreign state.
Imagine if we said it was illegal to criticize Russia.
And I brought this up in the debate.
You have magazines like The Economist drawing cartoons of Putin as an octopus and calling him the meddler, stating that Russia menaces Western democracies.
Well, I don't think Russia exerts anywhere near the influence on America that Israel does.
In fact, no nation exerts the influence on America that Israel does.
No nation has America yapping like a dog and jumping around performing tricks for it.
Israel does it openly, it's like systematically.
It's it's all throughout the system, they're openly doing it at every level.
But I do think that that Russia, you know, is working covertly for their own interests as well.
And and and playing their part in this whole Chabad Zionist uh world order.
Oh, look, Russia, like any other nation, will act within their own interests.
But my point is you are allowed to call Russia out for that.
You are not allowed to call Israel out.
And if I was to say, how much do I think Russia influenced the American election?
Well, I think they did want Trump to get in.
I think they did want Trump to get in.
I think they probably used Russia today, they probably used Sputnik, they probably used people who create memes to push a pro-Trump narrative.
But to suggest that Russia today and a few um Russian meme makers sat in uh sat in little offices in Moscow have anywhere near the power that APAC does is absolute fantasy.
Well, the just just the simple fact that all of the talk about Russia meddling or m Russia collusion and not a word about Israeli collusion.
And when one center uh when one Congresswoman Ilan Ilhan, what's her name?
Ilhan Ilan Omar.
Ilhan Omar, she speaks up and just mentions APEC exists, and they all go crazy and pass unanimous bills in the house to condemn it, and Ted Cruz just passed another one to condemn it.
And the the double standard, how dangerous it is.
You know, I mentioned the Noahide laws and Sharia law.
The the relationship that Chabad Lubavitch, you know, Kushner and all the people connected with that and the Trump uh the Trump presidency, that would be like a president, like a Muslim president bringing in like some radical extremist cult that is supremacist and wants to rule the world and bringing them in and you know honoring them and having a special day for them.
That it's it's the same thing, and that's what's going on.
That's how disturbing it is.
Oh, of course, of course.
And again, you talking about these hypocrisies and the power they have.
Isn't it amazing that in America, Christian symbols are now banned on public ground?
Christian symbols.
Now, actually, today, uh, another great content producer, I've got to give him a shout out, he's a wonderful guy, Vincent James of the Red Elephant.
He has become um very, very red-pilled on the JQ.
And he posted this up earlier today, and I'm gonna read this from his uh Instagram.
ADL, which stands for the Anti-Defamation League, slams Scota's decision to allow World War One Memorial Cross to stay on public land.
The anti-defamation league announced Thursday, they found it deeply disappointing that the Supreme Court decided not to tear down a nearly 100-old Memorial Cross in Bladensburg, Maryland, honoring soldiers who died in World War One.
Now, isn't that amazing that the Anti-Defamation League wants to tear down a nearly 100-year-old cross in a war memorial for men who were 99%, if not a hundred percent Christian that fought in World War One.
Yet every year you see the world's largest menorah pop up in the grounds of the White House.
So the Christians who fought and died in World War One for America, um now lie in this cemetery.
People want to def that well, the ADL wants to defile their memory by ripping down this cross, but at the same time, you get this whacking gray, I don't know how many foot tall it is, what, 20 foot tall, maybe more, menorah, you know, dominating the White House grounds with Trump like little specks stood beneath it.
So what are we saying here?
That in America, crosses are banned on public ground, but Jewish religious symbols are not.
Well, if that does not illustrate who holds the whip hand in American politics, nothing will.
And anyone that closes their eyes and their ears to that truth that I have just exposed is willfully deluding themselves.
Well said, you know, um uh Henrik from Red Ice did a video a couple weeks ago about how they're trying to the world Jewish Congress is trying to ban their Nordic ancient symbols.
That'd be like banning hieroglyphics from Egypt or something.
And of course, it's the World George Congress working and and uh lobbying you know politicians in Sweden to get rid of their own heritage.
And uh, you know, I just did a review on my bit shoot of this video, Kabbalah and Meditation for the Nations, and it talks about how Christians and Muslims have been taught a false heritage, and um it's not at all surprising that they're taking down uh you know crosses and and they're trying to capture Christianity and convert them to follow the Noahide laws,
which is like an inferior type of like uh Torah servant to the chosen ones, and it's all in this book in their own words, and he wrote this is written by a Chabad Rabbi for Gentiles to convert them.
And I wanted to show you this too.
This is uh this is crazy out of the JTA.
Orthodox trained rabbi makes history as head of a mostly Christian theology center.
So I see in the future just Christianity is going to be slowly Judaized, you know, the Judeo-Christian, pretty soon the Christians gonna fall off and they're gonna try to convert all these Christian Zionists with the Schofield stuff to just be uh totally subservient to the nation of priests, the chosen ones in and uh Israel in Jerusalem.
Oh, ultimately, the goal is that well, the goal for these uh Zionists is they are going to try and control a group that they call the Christian Zionists who almost seem to worship Zionists as living gods.
And when you see the way that some of these um sort of evangelical Christian Zionists have been absolutely brainwashed into supporting Israel, it's almost like they would all go and lay down on train tracks if they were asked to by their Zio masters, and it is how they are pulling the strings of the American establishment.
And it was quite funny because I was talking about power, just to go back to that debate, I was talking about power, and uh I remember Joseph Cohen, the moderator of the debate, he said, Well, most of the money to support APAC comes from Christian Zionists, Christian Zionists give millions and millions to influence America to support Israel.
Well, if anything, that proves my point to basically state so brazenly that um Zionists have captured vast numbers of Christians and basically had these people advocate, not in their own interest, but in the interests of Israel, that again shows an incredible level of power that no other racial group, the world over, exerts over another racial group.
Exactly.
Okay, uh Mark, I know I I told you we'd uh end around an hour and a half, but I still got two more questions that I want to get that I have to get to.
I can go for a high power stream like this, Adam, I could go all night.
I'm rejuvenated, I slept properly last night, I'm back in the game, my friend.
Awesome.
I'm I'm enjoying it.
It's a good talk so far.
So I want to say uh at least back you got in the BMP, you were the youth leader in like around 2002, you've been talking about these kind of uh issues for almost two decades now.
Uh how vindicated do you feel talking about things you know 20 years ago that are happening now?
Like, has it played out like you thought?
And uh so that's that's the first question.
Um I feel in some ways being vindicated is great because you are like, I was right.
I was right about all the things I was warning about, I was right about the things I talked about, I was right about the fate of the UK and much of um the fate of other white Western nations.
But there's also you say I was right with a heavy heart because you have predicted disaster, you've warned of disaster, and disaster has come to pass.
And ultimately, despite the fact I warned everyone that terrible things were going to happen, I can't really take much pleasure in uh watching those terrible things come to pass because I've spent my life warning people with the aim of preventing them from happening.
But I have warned people, and sadly, my warnings have fallen largely on deaf ears, and those horrors have come to pass, and we are facing a situation where we are being genocided in our ancestral homelands, and if things don't change soon, that will be carried through to its logical conclusion, and we will be minorities in the places our forefathers created as homelands for us.
Right, well said.
And and where do you think on the trajectory we're on right now, where do you think the world is gonna look like in 20 years?
Oh, I think in 20 years' time, if I'm still here, if I'm still here to be discussing it with you, which I hope we both are.
I hope both of us are still here to discuss this.
Where the neither of it and hopefully neither of us will be in prison either.
Um but I see a real nightmare scenario.
I see uh a Western world where white people are far further along to being a minority.
I see a place where mental illness is at an all-time high, where things such as sexual deviancy, um, diabolical lies about gender, um, different subcultures, the cult of hedonism,
the cult of materialism has taken a far greater toll, where people are disgusting fat slobs who live for either eating, sexual debauchery, just sit watching endless shows like Love Island or other such nonsense.
That's my favorite show, man.
Love Island, I've never even heard of it actually.
Is that in the UK?
That's in the UK, it's the latest degeneration.
Love Island, right?
And everyone, everyone absolutely adores it.
But I believe that our people will have fallen further from grace and they'll become closer and closer to being a minority.
And those people who have fought back against it, those people who are standing up against it, they will be a larger minority because as things get worse, more people wake up.
But that larger minority will also be persecuted on a greater level.
I think as things get worse, our oppressors will tighten the laws, they will close loopholes that they see on freedom of speech, and I think things will be grim.
However, and there is a positive to all this, and I spoke about this when I spoke in Sweden at the Scanzer Forum.
Every civilization rises and falls.
Everything is part of one grand cycle.
But in the end, the European spirit always, always rises like a phoenix from the flames.
And if history has taught us one thing, it is that tiny minorities of very motivated European men and women have repeatedly changed the whole passage of history simply by making incredible sacrifices.
Whether we're talking Rourke's drift, whether we're talking the battle of Thermapoli, whether we're talking about the siege of Vienna, small numbers of people have often managed to make a huge, huge difference and change the course of history.
And that's something, the ability to do that is something which is absolutely European.
It's something that lives within us all.
So what I'm saying is, never, never give up hope.
Because a great man once said, only he is lost who gives himself up for lost.
In other words, you're only beaten when you accept defeat.
And I, for one, for as long as I live, will never ever accept defeat.
I will never ever accept being a second class citizen.
I will never ever accept being a slave to these Zionists.
And really, as long as we have the truth and hope in our hearts, we can still turn things around.
And that is the most important message I could give to anyone.
Awesome, awesome answer.
I'm glad I asked that question.
That really uh sent you down a good one.
So hopefully this one will be also as good.
Uh, you mentioned about like uh the European people, how they have uh a resistance, uh not uh giving up.
Um what do you think is the agenda?
Who what is the reason for this multiculturalism religion and uh you know who's who's behind this mass immigration agenda and and what is the motive of it in your opinion?
The motive of mass immigration and multiculturalism is white genocide.
If you look at the UN's definition of genocide, what is happening in European nations falls well within that definition.
We are being bred out and we are being bred out for a reason because we are the only people who, as a collective, when we come together, can stand up to the might of Zionism.
And we have done it before.
We have done it a hundred and nine times, and the last time we did it was in the 1930s In Germany.
And since then, they have doubled down, they have tried to clamp down, and they have tried to prevent us ever doing it again.
But, and the weapon and the uh the weapon they use against it ever happening again is literally the destruction of our genes.
They are now importing millions and millions of people who are not culturally, um, not culturally or ethnically compatible with our people with the aim of reducing us to minorities and eventually breeding us out of existence.
And if things carry on the way they're going, we will be a minority in the UK by 2060.
And once we're in that position, the people pushing this agenda are convinced we will never be able to fight back.
We will never be able to break free.
But as I said before, that is not the case.
As long as the European spirit lives on, there is always hope for our people.
I hope so.
I still have hope.
I'm I'm doing all I can to spread the awareness about this knowledge, really is power.
Sometimes I feel like uh our battle isn't necessarily with the bad guys, you know, the small minority, it's more with like our uh the people that should be on our side but that are duped by the propaganda.
I saw you in one of your uh Patriotic Weekly Review videos, you were having a debate on if you should go after like uh the people on the left or if we should more focus on like the the alt light, the kosher servatives and try to like that's the first battle.
Uh what's your take on that on uh on on who's to blame?
Like, don't you see what I'm saying, right?
That we need to wake up our basically like our own people, the people that should be allies against the oppressors.
And it's well go ahead, I'm sorry.
Yeah, it's a really good question.
And and I used to work in marketing, and I've got a degree in marketing and economics, so I know exactly what I'm talking about here.
Never ever waste your time trying to win over people who you can never win over.
Let's say you're working for a company that sells rugged off-road mountain bikes.
Are you going to try to sell those mountain bikes to people age 70 and over?
You're not, are you?
Why?
Because they don't ride mountain bikes, they're not in the physical state to go riding mountain bikes.
You're also not going to be um trying to sell those mountain bikes to people who are vastly overweight, people who are disabled, people who don't ride mountain bikes.
You try to sell your rugged off-road mountain bikes to people who ride mountain bikes, people who are interested in um uh uh hardcore sports.
So that's where you market it.
Now, one problem that our people have is that patriots and nationalists spend an awful lot of time arguing with the left in little private forums or on Facebook or on Twitter to no avail.
Do not market what we have to sell to people who don't want to buy it.
You will come away from that endeavor, ultimately disappointed and frustrated.
We need to market what we are selling to people who are more likely to buy it.
So if I was marketing mountain bikes, I would put my adverts in mountain biking magazines.
I would speak to healthy young men and women that liked outdoor activities.
And if you follow that through, we must take our message to people who are already partially awake, to people who already have traditionalism in their hearts, people who are already standing up and saying, where's the Western culture going?
And we have to convert them, we have to give them the information to bring them the rest of the way.
If we waste our time smashing our heads into brick walls and shouting at pink-haired um, you know, obese feminists, don't get anywhere.
The only, the only exception to that is if you get the chance to debate these people in front of a neutral audience, as I did the other night.
Because if you get the chance to debate people in front of skeptical or neutral audience, you are not debating these people to win them over, but you are debating them to illustrate to the audience that your arguments are correct.
But do not Spend huge amounts of time in one on one private chats or little Facebook um partisan battles with people where the comments are only going to be read by people who've already made up their mind.
The big struggle as somebody who's been involved in marketing is ensuring that the message goes to the people most likely to buy into that message.
And if you think of yourself as a salesman, you know, if you're a meat salesman, you're not going to take your bag of steaks to a uh to a to a vegan party, are you?
You're gonna take it to a place where they're barbecuing every weekend on the beach and everyone's a ravenous bodybuilder or meat eater, because they're gonna buy a lot of steak and we are selling something, and we have to identify our target audience, and that is key to success.
So you're saying that the target audience should be like the people on the right that are Zionists, we should try to w win them over first, kind of change their minds first, and then kind of co-opt all of the right and then go against the left.
Yeah, we don't waste your time trying to um bring over people from the left, because for every think of it like this if you've got a hundred people who are traditionalists, who don't like the LGBT agenda,
who are nominally anti-migration, and then you have a hundred people who are totally pro-globo homo, pro totally pro uh migration, totally pro-feminism, hate uh Western traditions and culture, and you try to sell our message to those two groups of people, you might win over one or two out of the left wing group, but you might win over 50, 60, 70, even more of the more right wing group.
So, what I'm saying is we need to be going to things like Trump rallies and keeping our ears to the ground.
And when we hear people say, Well, you know what?
I don't really think we should be going to war with Iran.
It seems like we're just doing Israel's bidding.
When you hear somebody saying that, say, well, you know what?
I've thought about this, and I was watching this awesome channel called No More News, and this guy talks all the time about the the role of Israel in wars in the Middle East, maybe have a listen to him.
And that's how you win people over.
You know, if you were to sort of say that at c at some kind of pink haired feminist rally, you'd probably get lynched.
So essentially, don't waste your time.
Use your time wisely and take our message to people who are much more likely to be amenable to that message.
Interesting.
I I like your take on that.
Okay, it kind of reminds me of my own experience because a lot of with my channel I've been going after like uh people on the right, Trump supporting Zionists, you know.
I I focus so much on them that people think that I'm a leftist or I'm paid by Soros or something, which you know couldn't be farther from the truth.
But I've been going after them, you know.
I I came on your show and I've uh I've exposed InfoWars a whole lot, and I think some of that is actually working because once I got demonetized last week, uh Schreuer on War Room had me on and let me drop a whole bunch of truth about Israel and the tech transfer and a bunch of stuff that it's really important to get on their platform and and to have them here.
So I feel like I'm doing a little bit of my part of co-opting some of InfoWars and hopefully persuading and influencing them to be less Zionist and uh help wake up their followers to what Zionism is.
No, exactly.
Um, and that's how I found your channel because you were you were basically doing that.
You're exposing info wars and you were bringing over because you see, InfoWars is another one of those sites where people see the problems, but then they go to that site because the site talks about problems, but when answers are presented, the answers are always completely disingenuous.
So it it's not high ass, it's the Chinese communists.
It's not, you know, it's not the Frankfurt school, it's the Chinese communists, it's not Hollywood and it's not the Zionists, it's the it's the terrorist Palestinians, you know, everything's exactly everything's and everything's whenever Alex Jones, I always laugh because Alex Jones always leads you down a road.
He identifies a problem, he talks about the problem, and then as soon as he's about to expose who's behind the problem, he then goes completely off piste, and that's it.
And you're like, how did you get to that?
So now Hollywood And the porn industry and the media, it's all run by Chinese communists.
And he's he absolutely screaming into the camera, he's bright red, his voice is going hoarse.
He's like, We've got to stop these Chinese communists.
And you're like, what?
What are you even talking about?
If you actually look at what's going on in communist China, they're actually putting in social measures to prevent cultural Marxism gripping their young people.
They're actually putting in social measures to prevent people becoming addicted to the themes in Hollywood movies, in uh Western music.
They are stopping this because they don't want young Chinese men and women deciding to go out, get drunk, have promiscuous sex, get tattoos all over their face, and sit in a drug den injecting heroin, listening to Miley Cyrus.
They're battling against that.
If any if any um nation on the planet is putting more moral um moral guidance in place to stop the influence of Hollywood and the rest and press, it's China.
So what Alex Jones is saying is demonstratively false on many, many levels.
But he thinks if he says Chinese communists, they'll let him off.
That they won't they won't um they won't completely demonize him.
But he's a fool, and he was absolutely wrong.
Of course they're gonna completely demonize him.
Because the way these people work is there's a line that goes from right to left, and they pick off the person at the furthest right first, and everyone else to the left of him usually says nothing because they don't want to be associated with that scary person to the right of them.
But as soon as they get rid of the person to the furthest right, they brand the next person, one step to the left of the person they've just got rid of as the new extremist, then get rid of him, and the process continues until every last person to the right of center has been destroyed.
If you capitulate, they know that what they're doing is effective, and then they try it some more.
That's why you'll get Carlos Mazer saying, Oh, we're we're going deplatforming and deplatforming is the coolest and stuff, and that's how the they're always acting on Twitter.
Um I think the chats on to you, they're saying that you're a Chinese shill for all that.
I'm just kidding, I made that up.
But uh, Israel works with uh I'm I'm joking.
I was j I was just making a joke.
Israel works with China on all these business deals and all these tech transfers.
Also, you know, who brought uh communism to China and built up China in the first place was a lot of the usual suspects as well, not to mention like Kissinger and Nixon and though those those groups.
But uh oh no, definitely, but what I was gonna say about the uh China is there's a great episode of Murdoch Murdoch.
I don't know if you ever watched that.
No, I haven't.
Well, in that in that episode, the Chinese invade America and the China and the American nationalists conclude that they're in favour of the Chinese uh invasion because white Americans are only second class citizens after China's invaded, but under the current sort of Zio influence, they're seventh class citizens, so they settle for the uh the improvement of Chinese overlords who treat them with more respect than their Zio overlords.
People should watch Murdoch Murdoch.
I'm sure some people in the chat do.
I'll have to check that out.
Murdoch Murdoch.
Interesting.
Okay, Mark.
Well, um, I think I've run well over time.
Yeah, we're a little over the time.
I just want to do one more quick check, make sure I got everything.
So who who do the motive behind all the immigration you think is uh that they want to get any competition out of their way, which you think is uh the European are their they they see the Europeans as their biggest competition.
Why do they want to get them out of the way though?
The competition because in the past, and I said this on the debate, um, Jews have been thrown out of country so many times for the things that they've done, and Europeans have a habit of being very rebellious and eventually noticing things around them and pushing back.
And their way of basically ensuring that no other group has in-group preference, that no other group sticks together, that no other group acts with a coherent um racial mindset is to push multiculturalism.
Because if all other groups are broken down, weak, atomized, and their nuclear families shattered, they will have no society, they will have no culture, they will have no traditions.
They all the glue that binds us together as people and keeps us together so that we can stand as a shield wall has slowly been dissolved over time.
And once we are broken apart, once we are atomized, we are far easier to dominate.
But there is a serious flaw in their plan, and that is that even if they succeed, the resulting flood of Islamic immigration into Europe could well make European nations far more hostile to Jews and Zionists than it ever ever has been.
That's the plan.
That's the plan.
They want they they don't care because then all they can all flee to Israel and make a Leah and that fulfills their prophecy when they all return to the holy land.
Well, that very well well well that very that may well very be the case.
I mean, I you know, I mean, as far as I'm concerned, the big thing for me, the absolute big thing for me is to ensure that those of European descent do not go quietly into the night, that we are not um destroyed as a people.
And the greatest threat we have ever faced is multiculturalism because it isn't like a war, it's not like a battle, it's not like something where lines are drawn and people lift their swords and go charging into each other.
It's something that happens door by door, street by street, town by town, village by village, village by village, city by city.
Generation by generation, too.
Exactly.
And I always say this to people who say people will wake up eventually.
People did not organically wake up when London became majority non-white, nor when Leicester or Bradford or Birmingham went the same way.
So why will they wake up when Leeds, Manchester, Liverpool, or Newcastle go that way?
Because it's a gradual change, and people do not resort do not react to gradual changes in the same way that they react to an instant change.
Because gradual changes take place around them in the same way that if you have a frog in a in a pot of cold water and slowly turn up the heat, the frog doesn't jump out because it gets slowly warmer, and he doesn't even notice the change in temperature because it's so gradual.
Whereas if you threw him into a pot of uh warm water, he'd jump out straight away because he'd feel the change instantly.
And that's the problem with what's happening.
And that's why it's imperative that we warn people, because there will be no organic wake-up.
The wake up of white Western people will take place due to people like you, myself, and many, many other wonderful content creators the world over talking about this and hopefully taking our message to the general public in a much much wider fashion.
Well said, Mark.
Uh let's wrap it up.
I don't want to get over two hours.
Uh, thank you so much for taking the time to chat with me.
I enjoyed it.
We'll have we'll definitely have to do it again sometime.
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Mark, you think you're gonna make it to a hundred?
Or the I know uh all the YouTube creators I've just been decimated.
I my channel is completely plateaued and all the numbers are are dishonest, skyrocketing down roller coaster.
Uh every time um I I said this last night on my stream, every time I I I get a little bit of steam um going forward, I'll just get two or three hundred people magically unsub, and I think they're trying to make it so um I I think that they're that we're trying they're trying to make it so ultimately nobody um breaks that hundred thousand they're trying to if we aren't unpopular which we're not they're gonna do their damnedest to make us look unpopular right
again Mark for coming on I enjoyed it so it was a thought provoking talk keep up the great work and uh I'll talk to you soon.