Because the basic theme is something that we have been murdered for throughout our history.
Nobody's asking this man's trying to get through.
Jewish control of the government and cabals.
We heard it in the 1920s, we heard it in the 1930s, we heard it again in the Senate.
It's ridiculous.
And I'm not going to engage in it because my people get killed for it.
Have a good one.
Have a good one.
Often when there is dissent expressed in the United States against policies of the Israeli government, um people here are called anti-Semitic.
What is your response to that as an Israeli Jew?
Well, it's a trick we always use it.
When from Europe somebody is criticizing Israel, then we bring up the Holocaust.
When in this country people are criticizing Israel, then there are anti-Semitic.
And the organization is strong and has a lot of money.
And the the ties between the Israel and the American esta Jewish establishment are very strong, and they're strong in this country, as you know.
They have power, and they are not ready to hear criticism.
And it's very easy to blame people who criticize certain acts of the Israeli government as anti-Semitics and to bring up the Holocaust and the suffering of the Jewish people.
And that's that justify everything we do to the Palestinians.
Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg is facing backlash over a comment he made about Holocaust deniers in an interview that was published Wednesday.
I'm Jewish and there's a set of people who deny that the Holocaust happened.
Yes, right.
I find that deeply offensive.
But at the end of the day, I I don't believe that our platform should take that down because I think that there are things that different people get wrong.
Either, I don't think that they're intentionally getting it wrong.
Okay.
Holocaust denial at its core, whether it's on Facebook or any social media platform, is one of the most pernicious and sinister forms of hate speech that exists today.
You know, with all this talk about fake news, this is the original big lie in fake news.
The Holocaust is the most documented mass atrocity in the history of our planet.
Holocaust denialism is anti-Semitism plain and simple.
It is a form of hate speech that really shouldn't be up for debate.
I mean, to talk about the intent Of it is like talking about legitimacy of racism.
Simply put, it is unambiguously wrong.
It is a willful and deliberate tactic that's long been used by anti-Semites and bigots that's hateful and hurtful to Jewish people and others who perished in that terrible catastrophe.
Zuckerberg frames this as a free speech issue.
Do you think he has a point, or is this not an area that should be protected?
Well, at the ADL, we are fierce advocates for the First Amendment.
I think we need to also recognize, though, that businesses have an obligation, a responsibility to make sure their platforms are safe for all of their users.
And as Facebook is now, thankfully, taking steps around dealing with hate speech on their platform and taking steps to deal with fake news on their platform.
The original fake news, the denial of the Holocaust.
And as they are taking measures to ensure again the integrity of the experience for all their users, Holocaust denialism deserves to be considered in this body of work that again they're this body of lies that they are qualifying.
So Zuckerberg explained that Facebook may not take down individual posts that deny the Holocaust, but will block those from its widely shared news feed.
If something is spreading and is rented false by false fact checkers, it would lose the vast majority of its distribution and news feed.
Bottom line, are they going to remove the Holocaust denial stuff or not?
They're saying they're not going to remove content that's posted that is false.
They rather restrict it.
They rather downgrade it in news feeds so people don't see it in news feed, but that that content is still available if someone wanted to go and search out that concept themselves.
We don't need to uh I think debate flat earth society or that slavery is bad, or to give space for individuals to posit a big lie that's the mother's milk of every anti-Semite, every neo-Nazi and Islamist around the globe.
Again, we wouldn't debate the ethics of slavery, and we don't debate the truth of Sandy Hook, the Holocaust, its legitimacy as a historical event for which there is an overwhelming body of evidence.
and millions and millions and millions of people who perish should not be as a legitimate event up for debate.
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And German officials reminded Facebook that denying the Holocaust is a crime in Germany, subject to millions in fines.
The Holocaust is a crime in Germany.
them.
And in fact, we actually got Facebook to remove Holocaust denial material if it's posted by state actors like Iran and other groups that are clearly anti-Semitic and sometimes terroristic in nature.
So Why would there be any space for that anywhere in Facebook?
Why would you allow individual anti-Semites to be up there?
So we fully expect and still hope that through dialogue and discussion, we'll get to the right place on this one.
We work, you know, the ABL opened up an office in Silicon Valley last year.
We work actively with Facebook and the other tech companies.
They have been good partners with us in trying to mitigate cyber hate and trying to reduce online harassment.
I'll acknowledge here that Facebook has taken great steps to move the ball downfield and to make their platform safer for all of their users.
But this story reminds us that there is still a long way to go.
So what surprises me is that Mark would fumble on something that seems so incontrovertible.
Again, the intent of Holocaust deniers is one thing to promote a vicious and pernicious form of anti-Semitism.
I hope he recognizes that.
The intent of it is literally to undermine the narrative of Jewish suffering and to render Jews inconsequential to their own story.
The intent of it is to undermine the narrative of Jewish suffering and
to make the narrative of Jewish suffering.
Only 38% of people in this region have heard of the Holocaust.
Of those who have heard about it, 22% agreed it's been described fairly by history.
63% think the Holocaust was a myth or exaggeration.
The Holocaust narrative is still the third rail.
No one dares touch that.
Yet it is taught in our schools, in our public schools, in our taxpayer-supported schools.
It is a quasi religious dog dogma.
It's a state enforcement of a religious dogma.
In reference to teaching of Holocaust in the schools, this is a situation in which much more time is spent teaching about the Holocaust that happened in Europe than what the genocide against the Native Americans in this country.
I happen to be a school teacher and I substitute still in the schools.
There are programs in California, every eighth grader gets weeks of Anne Frank.
Not only her diary, but all kinds of teaching material because it's provided by Jewish establishment.
Then in the ninth grade, they all read Eli V. Cell, his book, The Night, Night.
This is in English.
And then history it's even more, and yet in the California curriculum, teachers are obliged to teach more about the Holocaust and a particular line than they are about the genocide of Native Americans in the area where I lived, there it took place in California.
Also the 400 years of slavery.
I also take exception to the lady's comment.
I I I don't think we should be uh uh problematizing the educational holocaust here.
This is that's repulsive.
And Frank, uh that it's a wonderful book.
I don't care who tells you to read that book.
If it's APAC, if it's the ADL, it's a wonderful book.
And uh Anne Frank, uh that it's a wonderful book.
It's a wonderful book.
The West thought that it incurred a debt toward the Jews from the Holocaust.
Antisemitism has returned.
But what is anti Semitism?
And why should its return be cause for grave concern, not only for Jews but for all of us?