Andrew Klavan dissects the impending culture war, arguing that societal shifts driven by the baby boomer generation's passing and internet disruption mirror the 1930s Reformation. He introduces "Clavin's Law," explaining how reform movements inevitably corrupt into their opposites, while defending artistic freedom in works like Book of Mormon despite offensive content. Klavan warns against outrage as "the devil's cocaine," advocating for honor over anxiety, before investigative reporter Luke Rosiak exposes billions in Ohio Medicaid fraud via deceptive "companionship" waivers. Ultimately, the episode suggests that navigating this transition requires rejecting rage and embracing moral clarity to counteract systemic decay. [Automatically generated summary]
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Fashion's Most Spectacular Event00:03:39
Well, this week, fashion's most spectacular event returned, as anyone who was apparently someone gathered in Manhattan for the Met Gala.
And I know what you're thinking.
You're thinking, sorry, Clavin, what were you saying?
I dozed off after the word spectacular.
One moment I was listening to you blather about fashion, then suddenly I was walking through a skyblue emptiness decorated entirely with pictures of my mother, and mysterious voices were revealing all my secret sexual fantasies, so that suddenly I started screaming, just a minute, this isn't heaven, this is the other place.
Then I woke up, and you were talking about celebrities or something, so.
What the hell is going on?
All right, that may not be exactly what you were thinking.
In fact, maybe that's what I was thinking.
Or maybe that was reality, and this is the nightmare.
In which case, let's get back to the Met Gala.
Every year, rich people who seem to think highly of themselves for no discernible reason gather at the Metropolitan Museum of Art to desecrate its wonderful art collection by dressing up like idiots and then posing and flouncing around for the cameras like idiots who are also pansies, but still idiots.
These are the individuals.
Whose fabulous glamour holds our cultural elites in fascinated thrall while the rest of us are watching Shane Gillis because at least he has some talent so we know why we're looking at him.
But of course, the Met Gala's biggest attraction are the amazing outfits that show off how God gifted these women with beauty and these men with homosexuality.
Famous designers go to the absolute limits of their lack of talent to create dresses for women who have absolutely everything except the simple dignity to cover themselves when they go outside.
lest they be exposed as narcissistic exhibitionists with nothing to contribute to society besides an inappropriate glimpse of their supposed-to-be private parts.
This year's prize for least amount of modesty went to Kylie Jenner, who simply sent her bare breast to the gala while the rest of her stayed home watching Temptation Island with a Budweiser Select 55 and a bucket of wings.
Madonna arrived, shrouded in black as if she were dead, which really wasn't all that shocking, until the EMTs showed up to carry her out to the hearse and she started shrieking, wait, wait, I'm still alive, which surprised everyone.
Doctors examined Madonna and declared that yes, she was still alive, so only her career should be buried.
Sarah Paulson, who was very famous for I have no idea what, bought her $100,000 ticket out of her $12 million net worth in order to wear a dollar bill mask to protest wealthy people by dramatizing the fact that money is blind.
Paulson made a dramatic entrance until she walked far head first into a low hanging water pipe, reeled backward, and smashed into a wall.
Then she stumbled to the very brink of a descending stairway and murmured, Maybe I should have put some eye holes in this dollar mask before she tried to walk away, but instead somersaulted down the stairs into the museum's Egyptian wing, where she had a flirtatious chat with a man who'd been dead for three and a half thousand years.
Singer Stevie Nicks was also there.
Nicks recently revealed she was glad she had had an abortion because if she'd let her child live, there would have been no Fleetwood Mac.
Nicks wore an outfit with a large empty space in the center to show the place where her soul used to be.
Cultural elites were also delighted to see their new favorite celebrity, White House Correspondents' Dinner attacker Cole Thomas Allen.
Allen, wearing an elegant orange jumpsuit, was released from jail to attend the Met Gala after DEI Judge Zia Faroukwi apologized for having him locked up when all he'd done was try to shoot the president.
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And let's face it, who hasn't at this point?
All in all, the fashion spectacular was a sparkling and glamorous reminder that even the mightiest nations ultimately succumb to corruption.
And produce an elite class so useless and perverse it drags a civilization that was the labor of centuries into a hellish oblivion.
But at least they dress badly.
Trigger warning, I'm Andrew Clavin, and this is The Andrew Clavin Show.
All right.
The vast right wing conspiracy known as Clavinon continues.
And it's even growing larger now.
It's even growing vaster because a new episode of Clavin's on the Culture is out with my son, Spencer Clavin, no relation.
This time, this is the third episode.
This time, we cover the Michael Jackson film, Michael, and the controversy over the fact this is a massive hit film.
I mean, it's going up toward $500 million, I think, worldwide in box office.
But the film leaves out all the controversies surrounding Michael Jackson, all the accusations against him.
So we talk about it.
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See, this is the thing I worry about a little, that people think we're just going to talk about some movie or other.
But we use the movie as a springboard on which to talk about much larger issues, obviously in this one, the controversy.
And, you know, I really hope you'll support the show because we're contracted just to do six.
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And if it plays out and it works out for the company, you know, then they'll renew it.
And, of course, I think it's important because, according to Candace Owens, Spencer and I are the only two people who haven't been laid off at the Daily Wire.
So, you know, it's getting lonely over there.
If you don't support the show, it'll just be an empty hall, according to her.
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And if you do like it, you know, leave comments.
And also, if you have something you'd like us to cover.
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It doesn't matter where you put your comment, we will come and collect it.
And if it is evil and disgusting, it will fit right in with our content and we'll read it on the air.
Today's comment comes from SAM Girl, S A H M Girl, and she says, I am leaving my evil and disgusting comment here as instructed by my overlord, the mighty Clavin. master of the right.
Now, just to show you how industrious we are, we always make sure that these are not fake comments.
And this one I'm a little bit suspicious of because I looked at the lady's picture and she has an incredibly sweet face.
And it's also S-A-H-M girl, which I assume means stay-at-home mom girl.
So I'm not really totally convinced she's as evil and disgusting as she pretends to be.
So we're having investigators sent to her house right now.
But meanwhile, we will get to today's episode, How to Fight a Culture War.
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Recap Of Our Story So Far00:15:30
Every now and again, I like to stop a little bit, pause, and just recap what I think is unfolding in this moment in our country and in really Western civilization, because I think it's a big deal.
And I don't think we can understand the news.
unless we put it in the context of what is happening.
And since some of the many of the things I've told you, almost all of the things I've told you, have ultimately become realities, I think this is a way to prepare for what's happening.
So we know we're not watching what we think we're watching.
We're watching something real, but it's taking place in the speaker contest.
So context.
So as I said, we're going through this period of transition, and it's a power shift.
It's a vibe shift, as they say, but it's really a huge cultural transition that, Is sort of like the transition of the 1930s that marked the end of European dominance in the West and the rise of America, the American superpower.
And transitions like these are always marked by fierce ideological debates for the simple reason that the center disappears.
And the reason the center disappears is that's where the shift is.
That's because the center has been the social standard or the social imaginary, whatever you want to call it.
And now it's exactly the thing that is fading away.
Right?
It was fading away in the 30s because Europe was essentially dying from a point of unbelievable dominance.
And the center is what is going away.
And so there's all these this is when the people come out from under the woodwork, and I would say some of them come out from under rocks, spreading radical ideas.
So in the 30s, of course, it was Nazism and communism.
And these transitional periods, for the same reason, are always tumultuous.
And we have to hope, and this is a big hope, we have to hope it won't be as catastrophic.
As the one in the 30s, which ended with a horrific world war, but there are frequently wars during times of transition.
Today's transition is brought on by, for one thing, this is part of it, this is about half of it, is the passing of the baby boom generation, my generation, which basically imposed its idea of the world on this country for almost our whole lives, really, almost since the people older than me came of age.
This country has been the baby boomers.
Country.
And we did all the wonderful things.
We spent the country, we spent all of our forefathers' money and spent the country into massive debt.
They just announced that our debt is now higher than our GDP, which almost always precedes, by the way, a nation's destruction or at least an empire's destruction.
It happened after World War II, but that was just because of the expenditure on the war and then it fell back to a normal place.
Right now, though, it's built into the structure of our spending, the so called entitlements, which is why conservatives are always banging on about entitlements and why it's very hard because nobody wants to give up his free.
You know, pull.
Everybody wants that free stuff, which is not free.
It's been stolen from somebody else and given to you wrongly.
So it's very difficult to get rid of.
So it's a perilous time.
But the baby boomers had to spend all that money in order to make ourselves look virtuous, in spite of the fact that we were only out for ourselves the whole time.
We made ourselves rich.
We made ourselves comfortable.
We did everything for us, but we made it look like we were doing it for virtuous reasons.
So the country tried to pass the baton to a new generation in Barack Obama and discovered he had nothing new to offer, really, but the old socialist and anti colonial ideas that have ruined every single society they've ever touched.
So he fell back on the race baiting, and that's really what came out of his.
His presidency, aside from a greater surveillance state and a stronger Iran.
So we went back to the boomers with Trump and Biden, who sort of represent, they represent kind of the living embodiment of the unspoken values of my generation, left and right, right?
It's destructive, self hating, blindly sanctimonious leftism on one side, and it's belligerent common sense on the other side, not to mention our foul mouth and our bad manners, which we cultivated carefully.
And at the same time, That transition, the transition of the baby boomers dying, was taking place.
The internet was invented, and this is the biggest advance in communication since the printing press.
There's no doubt about it.
It's not an arguable idea.
I don't think it's an arguable idea.
There's nothing that has transformed the way we communicate with each other like the internet, except the printing press, even though there have been other big communication differences.
And it had the same effect of the printing press, which is that it shattered the monopoly of thought held by the powers that.
Be.
When the printing press was invented, that monopoly was kind of held by the Roman Catholic Church.
But now it's held by these leftist cultural elites who have just dominated our culture forever, really, since I was a boy.
Because even in the time when we were more unified as a country after World War II, we were still the country was center right, but the media was really kind of more toward the middle, drifting to the left.
And the people in the media certainly were to the left, and certainly in the academy and all that.
And all of the Centrists are now gone and they've dominated, the left has dominated our culture for 50, 60 years.
And now with the internet, that was shattered.
And it's just the same.
In the old days, when the church lost its grip on this monopoly, and I'm not passing value judgment on this, I'm just saying this is what happened.
Once the printing press came along and a guy could print up his 95 theses and spread it around the entire, all of Europe, all of Christendom, there was going to be some trouble.
You couldn't set fire to everybody.
You couldn't, you know, Bring everybody into the Inquisition, it was going to mean that the Catholic Church had to let go.
And individual actors in diverse places sprang up, who then became new power centers.
And that's exactly what's happening under social media.
We're suddenly able to challenge the idea of the powerful cathedral of leftism.
And just like the church fought back, sometimes badly and wrongly, with inquisitions and censorship and all this, which was doomed to failure, that's what the left, clericy, has been doing now.
And once again, back then, back in the day, the transitional period led to a bloody warfare, the Thirty Years' War, which was one of the most it's not written about very much because it's very hard to understand.
It has so many different moving parts, but it was a horrible, bloody war that involved all of Europe.
It was almost a world war.
And again, we're hoping that won't happen, but you can see a pattern developing here in these transitional periods, and it's a dangerous time.
And there always comes a point in these transitional periods where The outcome becomes clear.
You see which way it's going, even though one side or the other hasn't admitted to it.
It.
After the horrific Thirty Years' War, this is in the 17th century, in the 1600s, there was the Peace of Westphalia.
And Ben and I are always joking about how often we make reference to the Peace of Westphalia.
But everyone agreed that basically we weren't going to fight over religion anymore.
Each principality, whatever the prince's religion was, that was going to be the religion, right?
And that marked the moment when it was clear that Protestantism wasn't going away, the church was not going to regain its hold over Christendom, the Roman Catholic Church.
Religion was going to be more personalized.
Atheism was going to become an option.
That became clear really, really right about then.
And look, some people, you know, you can look at it all kinds of different ways.
Knowles thinks it was a tragedy that the Catholic, you know, so did many Catholic writers, but Knowles thinks it was a tragedy that the Catholic Church lost its monopoly over thought.
Some people think it was the wonderful triumph of Protestantism.
I think personally that it was the will of God.
Fully understand, thought it was time for the church to fragment, and I believe he'll one day bring it back together and it'll have a new form, but it'll have the old forms within it, right?
I think that that's what I think is happening, but what do I know?
I'm just a barefoot teller of tales.
Anyway, the Peace of Westphalia was one of those moments when the result of this transitional period became clear.
Likewise, in the 30s, when the Soviet Union and the U.S. basically divvied up Europe and the Yalta Conference, which I'm sure you've heard of, which was Stalin and FDR and They sort of said, there's going to be Eastern Europe, there's going to be Western Europe.
It became clear that whatever else happened, the British Empire and the dominance of Europe were over.
That was not what was happening anymore.
It was a new time of superpowers.
So I believe that it's possible that the reelection of Donald Trump was a very similar moment.
It was a moment when, as I've said this ever since the day it happened, it was a moment when the rebel media, the individual media, the social media, the internet media broke.
the grip of big media, big academy, big Hollywood.
They did everything they could to stop Donald Trump.
And if it hadn't been a guy as durable and stubborn as Donald Trump, then it wouldn't have happened.
But with him doing it and with Elon Musk, and this is another thing I feel.
I feel God sends the people whom he needs to do what he thinks is going to be done, what he feels should be done.
And I think that that was a moment when we saw, oh, yeah, we can take these guys.
Yeah, they're an empire.
They're the empire of lies.
Little guys like, you know, upstarts like the Daily Wire and like Joe Rogan and all the others, you know, can make their voices heard and people will understand that they've been lied to and Donald Trump will win no matter what they said about him.
And, you know, it's just like these this is the moment when the angry guys who are being ousted or whose grip on power is being broken, they react.
And, you know, you can put the new podcasters on the rack, you can burn them at the stake, and you can demonize the Jews, which, by the way, is a recurring feature of these transitions in the West because that's the part. where you think like, oh, the old ways are going, therefore God is dead, therefore we can form our own morality.
I did a whole show about that a week or two ago.
I can't remember if it was one week or two weeks ago, but just like we've been trying to do since Eden, we think, oh, it's going to be us.
We want to give God the he-ho and the he-fo, and that means hating the Jews because the Jews implanted their God through Jesus Christ in our souls, and we wish we could get rid of them and do whatever we want, and we just can't do it.
Spoiler alert, it's now clear to me that the new voices won't be silenced.
They can try, they'll have victories, but ultimately, this is going to be the new world.
The New World is going to be a world where individual voices start to coalesce into new power centers that maybe we don't even know yet, we don't even understand yet.
There's going to be space exploration, just like there was exploration around the time of the Reformation, because that's going to open up new worlds where people can go and make experimental lives with new freedoms, as they did in the New World, which was now called the United States of America.
There are going to be amazing scientific discoveries that I believe will lead us to a deeper Understanding of new facets of the same old eternal God, right?
There's only one God.
There's the God of the Jews, the God who, the I Am, who spoke to Moses out of the burning bush and was incarnate in Jesus Christ.
That's the only God there is, but we're just people.
And with our, you know, melon sized brains, we understand only a little bit of Him and we understand more as time goes on.
And I think science is going to teach us more.
I went and saw the other day on Monday, I went and saw the new Steve Meyer film.
We interviewed Steve.
Last week, and I saw his film, The Story of Everything.
I hope you get a chance to see it, but you can just see we're understanding new things about God that we couldn't possibly have known before.
And yes, do you find them in the Bible after you understand them?
Yes, but you couldn't see him there before because we didn't have the information, just like people couldn't see Jesus Christ foretold in the Bible before Jesus Christ arrived.
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Now I'm giving you the entire rest of the century.
I've told you what's going to happen in the rest of the century.
So after that, Pivotal moment of Trump's reelection.
There's now jockeying for power.
That's what's happening right now.
And I think that's the most important thing we're seeing about the Iran war.
Nobody else will say this, and I will say it.
Obviously, the Iran war is important for all of the reasons you think it's important whether this terrorist state gets nuclear weapons, whether Trump pushes too far and loses his political base, and the country is handed over en masse to the left, which would be a horrible outcome.
Will Iran strike?
Back?
Will it reform?
All of those things are also important.
But what is also happening and is incredibly important is if Trump fails in some way, if he doesn't get something out of this war and if prices go up too high, then the empire of lies that we defeated at his election will come surging back.
That's what they're waiting for.
That's what they're hoping for.
That's why, even in papers that are kind of not totally on the left, like the Wall Street Journal, you have heard just relentless negativity.
About what Donald Trump is doing, because Donald Trump is trying to clear the path for a new America that can stand up to entrenched powers like China, like Iran, like Russia.
That's the trinity of evil that we're going to be up against for the next century.
They're not going away.
And so he's trying to clear the way where we have control of some of the energy and we have positions in the Middle East, which is important.
But if he can't get it done, then the new press is going to come surging back just like a tidal wave and get back into that position of power that they lost.
I don't think they'll hold it, but they will come back.
And so if you watch the news, if you follow the news, there's been this weird mutedness after Trump made the incredible, the only surprising thing that's happened.
People keep saying, who knew that Iran was going to close the Strait of Hormuz?
Everyone knew.
Everyone knew that.
But nobody knew that Trump was going to close the Strait of Hormuz.
That came out of nowhere and it has put Iran back on its heels.
Right now they're negotiating, but Iran is such an untrustworthy negotiation partner that we can't say what's going to happen.
But everybody is waiting.
There's a kind of silence in the news, if you've noticed it, that Because nobody knows what's going to happen.
And if Trump wins, if he comes out of this with a clear victory, if prices go back down, if he gets some of Iran's nuclear program done, then the new media, the rebel media, is going to resurge and it's going to have a – there's going to be a real battle for which voices are going to form the most powerful new power centers.
Remember, the old media lost our trust with COVID and the George Floyd nonsense and Russia collusion and the overplaying of January 6th.
They lost our trust with all that, but they're trying to get it back.
And if Trump fails, they'll get it back.
But if he wins, they will be shattered.
And that is one of the most important things that is happening with this Iran war.
So, you know, what has not yet broken out into a shooting war, and please God it doesn't, is still a big, major battle for the culture.
It does include violence.
As we talked about, the left is violent because they're the ones losing the power, and those are the ones who always commit the violence.
Fighting For Cultural Righteousness00:11:19
But it is an enormous fight for the social imaginary.
And I want to talk about a few signposts to look for along the way.
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It's K L A V A N. Chapter 2 CLAVEN's Law.
So this is.
I'm calling this Clavin's Law just because I like putting my names on.
So, if Trump can do it, I can do it.
So, I call it Clavin's Law, but really what it is is an explanation of a famous quote of a royalist opposition to the French Revolution who said, like Saturn, the revolution devours its children, Saturn being a Roman god who represented time, so he devoured his own children.
And I think that that happens to revolutions a lot.
They start to just steamroll after.
After a certain point where they're absolutely destructive.
Most revolutions, that's what happens to them.
But I want to talk about how that happens, particularly in our country and in the West right now.
So Claven's Law is a five-step process.
The first one is a reform movement.
And it begins with a righteous ask, which wins the hearts of the people: no more Jim Crow, give women full human rights, take care of the environment.
And part two, step two, is that despite resistance by entrenched reactionaries, The movement succeeds as well as it can given human nature, right?
Bigotry is never going away, but you can make it so that people don't mistreat people because of their race or at least will be scorned and will maybe even be harassed by the law if they do.
But bigotry won't go away.
So the solutions are always going to be imperfect.
Women will always be mistreated because they have something desirable to people who are stronger than they are.
I mean, that's just a setup.
It takes good men to protect women from bad men because that's the situation.
And all of the rest, everything else is blah, blah, blah.
It doesn't mean a single thing.
And there'll always be people.
Who abuse resources, environmental resources, because they want to get rich quick.
All of these movements succeed, but a little bit, only a little bit.
We do conserve better than we used to.
We are better conservationists.
Women do have more rights.
They have really all the rights.
And bigotry is basically a dead letter except in the human heart.
So that's step two.
Step three is now the reform movement is over because there's nothing more politics can do.
People are going to remain people.
So we're now as fair a country as we're going to be on those particular ideas.
But the corpse of the reform movement is now reanimated, inhabited and reanimated by two kinds of parasites.
One are the people who were profiting off the reform because someone's always profiting off something.
So that would be like the SPLC, the Southern Poverty Law Center, allegedly paying off white supremacists to gin up hate and violence so they can keep fundraising, right?
If the hate is seen to have dried up as much as it's going to, they're going to lose their fundraising.
They're going to die.
So there's always people who are in it for the money and the power and don't want the money and power to go away.
And if the problem goes away, then they go away and they don't want that to happen.
But the second kind of person who takes over the dead movement are leftists who want to use the cause to destroy American liberty or any kind of liberty so they can take power.
They're trying to take power.
They want to make sure we're turned against each other, that we're divided, that we hate each other, that we think there's something so urgently wrong that government has to do it.
So, oh my God, the fate of black people in this country is so bad, the government has to step in.
Oh my God, the fate of women in this country is so bad, the government has to take your freedoms away and make sure you.
Pay them whether they're making the same amount of money for you or not.
Oh my God, the climate, the climate.
Oh, the climate.
What are we going to do about the climate?
The government must step in and spread money to all the electric car makers who now become part of the corrupt system and want the money.
And so they start screaming about the climate too.
So that's step number three.
And four, because of the takeover by corruptoids and the left of this essentially dead letter movement, the reform movement's goals inevitably become the exact opposite.
Of the righteous ask that they started with, right?
So instead of getting rid of racial bigotry, they want to glorify racial bigotry as the solution to racial bigotry.
This happens with everything.
You know, the immortal words of Ibram X. Kendi, a con man.
He said, the only remedy to racist discrimination is anti racist discrimination.
The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination.
The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.
Kind of like Martin Luther King when he said, I have a dream that one day, you know, you will be judged by the content of your character instead of the color of your skin.
No.
That's how we go in the opposite direction.
You will be judged by the color of your skin.
The feminist movement, the same thing.
They fought for women's rights, but now they denigrate women's natural biological role as mothers and homemakers, which is their power.
That is the power women have.
The power women have is the power to create the generations and make homes and nurturing.
That is real power.
Everything else is ephemeral, and they want to take that away.
In fact, they don't even.
in the feminist movement don't even admit there's such a thing as women anymore and all I have to do is put on a string of pearls.
And by the way, I look great in a string of pearls.
All I have to do is put on a string of pearls and I am just as much a woman as they are.
And the conservationists, they wanted to conserve resources.
They were saying we'll run out and then our economy will be destroyed.
Now they want us to stop using all resources and destroy the economy.
Everything becomes the opposite.
And the final part of Clavin's Law, part five, is that as the reform movement Becomes a destructive profit center and a way for corrupt politicians to take power and corrupt activists to take power.
Its opponents, the people who are now saying, hey, wait a minute, this civil rights movement isn't a civil rights movement anymore.
It's bigotry.
This feminist movement isn't a feminist movement anymore.
It's some attack on the normal human interplay of romance and creativity and love.
You're destroying everything.
We don't even have babies anymore.
Or wait a minute, this conservation movement isn't conserving anything, it's just destroying our economy.
In order to pass graft to electric car makers, once that happens and the opponents come out, the opponents are automatically demonized by identifying them with the original reactionaries who opposed the righteous ask at the beginning.
The guys who said, oh no, I don't want black people to be free because we're having a good time here picking on them or because they're inferior or whatever their rationale was.
You're now identified with them.
Even though what you're saying is, no, I agreed with the righteous ass.
Now it's the opposite and I oppose it.
And so that's the way this happens.
This happens again and again.
We just saw it with the Supreme Court decision.
I think it was last week, Louisiana versus Calais, where the court ruled against gerrymandering, racial gerrymandering.
And it doesn't get rid of the Voting Rights Act, which I think they should get rid of the Voting Rights Act.
It was passed in 1965, a lifetime ago.
It's a different world.
Back then, yes, blacks were sometimes being prevented from voting in the South.
And sometimes white people would refuse to elect blacks.
Now, black registration in the South is higher proportionally than white registration.
Most black members of Congress aren't from majority black districts.
And in fact, racial gerrymandering keeps them in those districts and actually limits the amount of power they can get.
We had a black president elected twice, mostly by white people, despite the fact that his policies and his actual record actually sucked.
So being black actually helped Barack Obama, but it didn't stop Barack Obama from sending out a post saying, Today's Supreme Court decision effectively got success.
Key pillar of the Voting Rights Act, freeing state legislatures to gerrymander legislative districts to systematically dilute and weaken the voting power of racial minorities.
Who even wants to do that?
Nobody.
It's ridiculous and it's not happening.
And Kentonji Brown Jackson, who is not a Supreme Court justice, she's an activist in a justice's robe, she actually put like an insult to the court in her dissent on this decision, saying the court has abandoned principles for power.
And Alito responded with a footnote saying, That was a groundless and irresponsible charge, and it is the dissent's rhetoric that lacks restraint.
I mean, this is.
None of the other left-wingers actually joined with Jackson, who has just become a disease in the court, destroying what used to be the collegiality of the court, which is important for when people disagree, they have to like each other so they can reach good decisions.
She's a grifter and she's a socialist.
So Claven's Law repeats over and over again because people remain imperfect, no reform is going to finish, and every reform creates a business model.
For people to get money and power.
So it's going to repeat and repeat and again.
And my point is this as we fight the coming battles for the culture, it's not that hard to avoid being demonized as reactionary.
First, don't be reactionary.
Don't go back and think, like, wow, this, you know, those guys who said that blacks shouldn't be made equal, they were right.
Look what they're doing now.
No, they were right in the beginning.
It's wrong now.
You're fighting the wrong battle.
You're fighting a battle that was actually a righteous battle and now is not a righteous battle.
Fight the lack of righteousness.
And, you know, so don't get sucked in by the loudmouths, the Andrew Tates who tell you women are, you know, evil, the Nick Fuentes and now Tucker Carlson who tell you really it's Sharia law we need, you know, because unbelievable stuff.
Then you play into the hands of the demonizers.
Instead, explain Clavin's Law.
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Keep it right front and center, truly.
You don't have to call it Clavin's Law.
I just did that for my own pleasure.
But still, explain that now movements change into the opposite of what they represented because of corruption, because human beings want power and money.
And follow the righteous path.
Make sure you are actually on the side of liberty and equal treatment for people.
And stay calm and know the facts.
The guy who's really good at this is Scott Jennings.
If you watch him, he's really good bringing the facts.
And always, you never hear him say a bigoted thing.
You never hear him say a thing that's cruel to his fellow Americans.
He takes people apart.
I salute him.
He does a great job.
And they shout him down all the time because he destroys them.
It's easy to win.
We can do it.
We can do it.
Just don't be sucked in by the rage.
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Chapter three, skip the outrage.
So I started a minor firestorm on X this week by talking about this controversy.
I put out a Post on my sub stack that I have with Spencer at the NEW Jerusalem.
And I put out a post about this controversy over Mormonism, which was started by Matt Frad.
I believe he was the latest guy to start it.
He attacked Mormonism, saying that Joseph Smith was a false prophet.
Spencer was giving me a hard time because I put out this New Jerusalem post, and people were outraged about it.
It went insane.
And Spencer was saying that his feed was getting clogged by people trying to attack me.
Which made it hard for him to watch his cat videos or whatever, even cats quoting Plato, whatever he's watching.
A lot of this stuff, this outrage is fake.
And I know this because I've tried to answer letters I get and find that there is no post, the address is fake.
People who hate the Daily Wire.
Now, people who hate the Daily Wire, you know, it's one thing if the people who really just hate it don't listen, so they're not a problem.
But the people who are trying to destroy the Daily Wire or rejoicing in the recent layoffs and all this, a lot of them are anti Semites.
They are reactionaries.
They are hateful people who don't like the fact that we have different, you know, opinions here.
And they always have the same.
I used to love you, but now I don't like you.
They never loved us.
They never subscribed.
I'm canceling my subscription.
They don't have subscriptions.
They didn't read what I wrote.
You could tell from their responses to what I said.
But they gin up the anger of people who are upset.
I got one letter from, I got a bunch of letters actually, but I got one in the Clavin Clapbacks from Scott saying, Dear flawless, hairless master of the feather quill, I read your subsect article.
I'm not someone who hates The Wire.
I'm a lifetime member.
I'm not outraged.
I'm not fake outraged.
I'm just annoyed.
There are plenty of leftist targets to focus Daily Wire's attention on.
friendly fire on other Christians and people of faith is just unnecessary and leaves us feeling annoyed.
Annoying the hand that feeds you is bad business strategy.
Perfectly valid and reasonable thing to say.
I want to say this.
I love Matt Frapp.
I think he is a really, really wonderful person.
And I think he is a deeply religious man and a true adherent to the faith.
He's not like these hateful people just slinging mud in the name of God.
He is a true believer in Jesus Christ.
He gave me a rosary, which I've used many, many times to my improvement.
But I have to say, I don't agree that he should be doing this.
I'm not saying, oh, it's a terrible thing.
I'm just saying, you know, people love their religion.
It sustains them.
We all know we have disagreements between our creeds.
You know, that's part of religion.
But if Mormons aren't blowing people up, you know, leave them alone.
You know, that's why I pick on religions when the religion is producing something bad.
And you can always make the argument that policy, that Theology you disagree with leads to something bad.
But the problem with that is that when you take away something that you disagree with in somebody else's faith, you might think you're doing something good because you're ripping something out of their hands, but you might actually be taking the step away from them that's going to lead them to something closer to the truth.
Even if what they're thinking is false in your opinion, it might be false in such a way that leads them to something true.
Personally, I've always loved Mormons, the LDS people, because I spent a lot of time skiing in Utah, met a lot of them, took Skiing lessons from a lot of them.
And they were always just lovely people, very thoughtful, not at all like in the Book of Mormon, where they're just kind of bland, stupid people.
And I went to see the Book of Mormon at the same time that Matt Frad was putting this out.
And, you know, it was just my wife said, You want to see the Book of Mormon?
I was like, Yeah, sure.
And it's, if you don't know, it's this smash hit of a theater piece.
And it's by the guys who do South Park Trey Parker and Matt Stone and the songwriter from Avenue Q.
So you know, you know, it's what to expect.
You know, it's going to be.
Full of four letter words.
You know, it's going to be, you know, the plot is about some absurdly caricatured Mormons who are sent on a mission to Uganda.
So it's all these jokes about female mutilation and AIDS and raping babies and how stupid it is to have faith.
And, you know, the lady sitting next to me was offended by it.
She's a very elegant, very attractive lady who didn't like all the cursing and making fun of mutilating women and so on.
Plus, she was my wife.
So I'm sure she was right about it all.
But to me, art.
Is a free play zone.
Art is the place where you go, where you let your mind be taken away by the artist.
I do believe there can be evil art, and I reject that.
I would never play Grand Theft Auto.
But Ben Dominic told me he loves Grand Theft Auto, and I don't think he's stealing cars.
I don't think he's a felon.
He's a little shifty looking, but I don't think he's a felon.
So it's all about the state of your own soul.
I refuse to watch that demon movie called something like Midnight Mass because I was just really getting into the Mass, and I didn't want those images in my head.
So sometimes art can do something evil.
But most of the time, I just let the artist play with my mind because I know I'm going to come back to the truth and come back to reality, and he's not going to hurt me.
There was one song in the Book of Mormon where the Ugandans curse out God for all their suffering.
And for a moment, I kind of stiffened up, but then I thought, you know, this is a joke about theologies that aren't realistic about suffering.
So it was pretty funny.
I started to laugh.
And here's the thing here's the thing I'm trying to get at.
Whether it is true criticism like Matt, which I said I wouldn't have done, but Matt's a good guy, and you don't have to listen to him.
There are plenty of other people at the Daily War.
But whether it's that or whether it's comedy, I think we should cut down on the outrage.
I think outrage.
Anger is the devil's cocaine, and outrage feels good, but what is the point of it?
This is seriously how I feel about this.
Now, I'm very serious about my faith.
Nick Fuentes this week said that me and Ben were evil Jews, and that's just a lie.
Ben is an evil Jew.
I'm an evil Christian.
I actually am very serious, I'm very dedicated to my belief.
I'm a very regular churchgoer.
I pray every day, I read the Bible every day.
But that doesn't mean I have to be serious about myself in my beliefs, right?
I'm not serious about myself.
And it doesn't matter to me whether you agree with me.
As long as you're not physically assaulting me or preventing me, if you just think, I've had plenty of people tell me that my beliefs are wrong every day.
I loved when I put up this thing.
People were saying, you were ratioed.
First, I had to look up ratioed.
But aside from that, I've been ratioed my whole life, maybe.
It hasn't stopped me from being right.
Being ratioed to me just means that these guys are going to have to run fast to catch up with me once they figure out that I'm telling them the truth.
Okay, that's all ratio means to me.
Being popular has nothing to do with anything except being popular, and it's never been all that appealing to me, and I don't care about it very much.
You know, obviously, I want my wife and kids to like me, but aside from that, I'm just trying to get at what is happening.
That's my job.
That is my job.
So I don't really care about how they're reacting to it.
But also, my faith doesn't depend on their agreement.
My faith is well thought out, it's well read.
I read about it all the time.
I change my mind when I think I'm wrong.
I expect to develop in my faith, I expect to find dearly held.
Opinions that I have to think suddenly, no, I've got that wrong.
I've got to change that because wiser heads, I read something by a wiser man that puts a hole in it.
At this point, I've thought it out so well that the change is not going to be 180 degrees, but still, I modify what I think.
And God, no matter what I think or you think, God's still going to be God.
He's not going away.
It doesn't matter whether you believe in Him, it doesn't matter whether you don't believe in Him, it doesn't mean a thing.
So there are lots of reasons for outrage in the world.
Murder is a good one, rape, you know, atrocities, reality TV, those are all good reasons for outrage.
But Bad ideas, you know, you can challenge bad ideas with good ideas.
And if people aren't going to listen to you, walk on, walk on.
This is not about Mormons.
You know, this happens to everybody.
I think people get very, very prickly about religion.
And personally, I think it's because they are unsteady in their belief.
We all have moments of doubt, we all have areas of doubt.
And I think that when people challenge a proposition, I talk about the perpetual virginity of Mary all the time.
Catholics and Protestants will go crazy when you challenge it.
And I think, why?
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Why?
You weren't there.
You know, I respect people who believe in it.
I don't believe in it.
I don't believe that.
I have a great reverence for Mary, but I don't think being a virgin wife is a good thing.
Now, the Catholics really have a tradition of believing that virginity is higher, the Roman Catholics of believing virginity is higher than marriage.
I don't believe that.
That's what I think the argument is about.
But so what?
Live your life and live with love to your opponents and to your friends.
And why are we angry?
What are we afraid of?
Well, that's what I want to end with talking about because I think fear.
There is a fear that runs through the human race, and I think that this is the biggest danger to winning the culture war, is if we let our fear become anger, if we let our anger carry us away and turn us into the people our opponents think we are.
There's a word people like to throw around, sheep.
Sometimes people throw around the actual sheep, but usually when they're talking about sheep, it means someone who just goes along with whatever they're told, doesn't question it, doesn't push back.
We all like to think that's not us, but then you look at how we behave online.
We know we're being tracked.
We know our data is being collected, sold, analyzed.
We know companies are shaping what we see.
And what do we do?
We shrug it off.
We keep scrolling.
At a certain point, you have to ask is that really any different?
I mean, it is amazing how people are sacrificing their privacy.
I see it with young people all the time.
They shrug it off.
You're not going to like that in the long run.
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It's K L A V A N. Final chapter, your life is a weapon.
Last week I made a statement about this that a couple of people have written to me about, saying that your life is the greatest weapon you have in the culture wars.
You know, people who speak are important, art is important, teaching is important, but if you're a parent, you're going to be a teacher as well.
And even if you're a friend, you're a teacher just by the way you live.
And that is the thing that when you live a certain life, You teach the people around you.
If you live it with joy, it becomes appealing.
It becomes an appealing way of life.
You start to surround yourself with people who live that life, and then you have a community.
Those are the small little places in which the American life is formed.
We're always so afraid that everything has to happen today.
Just remember the left stole this country over the course of 60 years.
It took them 60 years to march through the institutions.
You can do it too.
It doesn't mean you have to be a plotter, it doesn't mean you have to be a conspirator.
It means you have to live by the values that you have.
It's huge.
There's a big movement going on right now.
You know, conservatives are always hoping for a reawakening, a religious movement.
But there's something going on right now.
A lot of people are going to church who weren't going to church before, especially the Gen Zers, the young folks, and especially young men.
And as I always tell you, the future is male.
The young guys are the guys.
I don't know why exactly.
Well, I kind of do.
They take more risks.
They're always looking for something new.
They're the ones who go first to the new stuff.
Women are a little bit more cautious, they take fewer risks.
And young men in particular are interested in faith.
A Gallup poll released last month found that in 2025, 42% of young men said religion is very important to them, up from 28% in 2023 and overtaking young women.
In New York, they are.
Packing churches, mostly Catholic churches.
And of course, this was something that people talked about even during the Reformation when atheism was allowed.
You were ultimately burned at the stake, but there were people who were atheists and they would say, well, both sides are wrong, but the Catholics have the good ceremonies.
The Catholics do have beautiful churches.
They have much prettier churches.
They have better art and they have more of a sense of beauty and they have lovely rituals and rites and music.
And I think that that is a very, very powerful thing.
And it's orderly and it takes people.
Back, you take people in.
A lot of these guys are mixing socializing with church going and a lot of their surrounding businesses, like a pizza parlor saying, have a pizza before you go to the pews or vice versa.
And so a lot of guys are going to church looking for girls, which you might say that's not a good reason to go to church.
I think it's a great reason to go to church.
Be fruitful and multiply is God's first command to the people.
Be fruitful and multiply.
I think it's a wonderful thing to find a girl.
You know, nothing sexier than a girl who prays, man.
That's what.
It's something you know, there's something in her, that she's not just a pretty face.
And they're actually having these holy girl walks because there was to imitate the hot girl walk.
It's funny, I was watching this video of the girl who invented the hot girl walk.
Her name is Mia Lind, where she claims to have invented it.
This is what she says about how to do a hot girl walk.
Think about the little things in life you have to be grateful for all the way into the bigger things you have in life to be grateful for.
It is so important to start with this step because it'll put you in the right headspace.
Next, you think about your goals and how you're going to achieve them.
I love to think about all of the things I've accomplished thus far and then leading into thinking about what's next for me because once I've counted all the amazing things that I've accomplished and I leave being humble at the door.
I love it.
Like, get rid of that humility.
You don't want any humility.
What's a girl who's modest and humble?
Who wants that?
But you know what's funny about it is she starts out talking about, you know, first you want to really look good, you want to put on a nice outfit and you want to put on makeup and all this.
Then when you get your music, Going, and then you go out and you do the walk.
Because if you don't look good, you won't feel good, and you want to get good music.
And what's funny is if you go over to the holy girl walks, they call them, that are the competition to the hot girl walks, their attitude is totally different about what you should be thinking about.
You should be thinking about Jesus.
You should be thinking about surrendering yourself to God.
So there's going to have a different outcome.
But before they get to that, they talk about first you got to put on a nice outfit and good makeup and get good music to listen to.
Because whether you're a hot girl or a holy girl, you're still a girl, which I think is great.
That's one of the best things about them, right?
We love.
We love the girls.
It's wonderful that they're both doing this.
But this is a big movement that's happening.
The reason I'm talking about this is because I've seen a lot of people fall by the wayside in my life.
I've seen a lot of people fall by the wayside.
Maybe the biggest reason people get lost in the world is that they don't want to acknowledge who they are.
They're blindsided by their own flaws, their own sins.
The doctrine of original sin is one of Christianity's greatest gifts.
To the human mind.
It's painful.
It is painful.
It's not that you're bad.
Original sin is not that you're bad.
You know, that's kind of the way people talk about it.
Even the word sin doesn't mean the way we use it.
In the Bible, the word sin means to miss the target.
And what original sin means is the best way I can describe it, or my understanding of it, is that it's a disconnect between your desires and what you know to be right.
I mean, St. Paul says, What I want to do, I don't do.
What I don't want to do, I do.
And he talks about the flesh and the spirit.
And I think about that too that I'm not against the flesh.
We're made of flesh.
God must want us to be made of flesh.
But the flesh has.
Desires that are unparsed, whereas the soul, the spirit, understands morality.
So, you know, think about how Clavin's Law is implemented.
What do they do?
They shame you.
They say, oh, you have implicit bias.
And you want to say, no, no.
But yes, you do.
You know, the body is tribal.
The body wants to survive.
It has evolutionary pressure on it and it wants its people to survive.
We all love our family more than we love strangers.
We all love our neighbors better than we love people who live far away.
All of us, all of us are like this.
If you are aware of these things, you're not ashamed when people say it because you know they're just projecting something on you that is on to them, right?
And when they say, oh, you know, men, they, men, you know, me too, me too, men, yeah, men want to sleep with lots of women.
Men can get very carried away by their sexual desires.
Women want fresh romances all the time.
And that sometimes eats into their commitment to fidelity.
All, you know, this is what happens to people.
Once you get it, once you get the fact that this is what you are, that you are a divided soul, divided between.
What you desire and what is right, and that you have to use willpower to make that, to get to what is right, and it's hard and you will fail.
Once you get over that, you can't be shamed because you've already gone before God, and God, because this is the kind of guy he is, has forgiven you.
He has forgiven you.
He gets it.
He knows you're not hiding a damn thing from him, okay?
And not a single, there is not a single thing that is going on in your beleaguered, divided, sinful soul that God is not aware of down to the last molecule.
And so, You don't have to be ashamed.
You are just like the guy next to you, everybody who's accusing you.
Jesus was serious when he said, Don't judge.
This is why I say this, because you've got no standing.
You have no standing in the case, right?
You're not going to judge where other people are in their journey to God.
And yes, some people are not going to make it.
Some people are going to fall by the wayside.
Maybe.
We don't even know that's true.
But you're not the guy.
All you have to worry about is you.
That's all you have to worry about.
All you have to worry about is your own heart.
What's in your heart?
What are you going to do about that?
And so when people accuse you, your thing should be.
Hey, I knew that already.
I knew that already.
I'm just trying to do the right thing now.
This is what you do.
You take each person, you take each incident as it comes.
You take each person as he comes.
I mean, I always joke, but it's really true that I like everybody, but I like everybody because I know they're corrupt.
And sometimes they follow their corruption, and I can't like them anymore.
I can't be close to them anymore.
I still may worry about them, I still may love them, but I can't be around people who are going to be destructive because they've lost their path.
But I already know.
And this makes people uncomfortable.
Even the people I love and even the people I love the best, I know who they are.
I know what they're thinking.
I know when they tell me what good people they are.
And people spend about 85% of their speaking time communicating to you in one way or another what nice people they are.
I know they're not nice people.
I know they're self interested and sinful because all of us, that's all of us.
This idea of original sin is incredibly liberating.
But when you face it, it's painful.
You have to go before God and say, I get it.
I'm a coward.
I'm a fool.
I'm controlled by my desires.
All you can do is do the next right thing.
Stop watching the porn.
You know, porn is not a pathology.
You're not battling a porn addiction.
I know I say this all the time, but you're just doing what feels good instead of what feels right.
You're not in love with another woman.
You love your wife.
You still love your wife.
That's what the word wife means.
That's why you married her.
You're just doing what feels good instead of what you know is right.
That's the way it works.
And so the left, see, has this philosophy that human nature can change.
Original sin isn't there.
They're bringing utopia.
Their system is going to eliminate the fallen nature of man.
And you know, because if you have the doctrine of original sin, You know that's false.
And he wants to catch you up in the shame that you are not.
This is what critical theory is.
They want to catch you up in the shame that you're not ideal.
If you start from the position that you are made in God's image, that you are part of a fall, part of a disastrous fall, that you are burdened with original sin and you have been forgiven, and you've been forgiven, they can't touch you.
You're like Muhammad Ali.
They cannot find you, they cannot touch you.
You do the next right thing.
You treat everybody the same.
You treat everybody.
You judge people.
When you judge people on a human level, you judge them for their actions, not for their thoughts, not for what's secretly going on.
And that will make you stand out.
That will make you unique because we all, deep down, we all know the rules, right?
We all know the Ten Commandments.
So what happened?
Don't murder.
That eliminates 55% of Democrats who feel that murder is justified.
Don't steal.
That eliminates all socialists.
Don't bear fall witness.
That eliminates the entire staff of the New York Times.
Don't commit adultery.
That eliminates a lot of rich people, even some poor people, but certainly a lot of rich and powerful people.
And love God and love your neighbor, that eliminates just about everybody.
If you follow those rules, you are going to stand out.
God hates nothing that He has made.
He hates nothing that He's made.
You're not disgusting for being human.
You're just human.
You're not disgusting for being burdened with original sin.
You're just human.
Every man and woman is in the same struggle.
If you are doing your best and acknowledging your failings to God in prayer and moving on and trying to beat the devil inside you, no one will be able to manipulate your guilt.
And once you are that, person, you are a joyful person.
You're not happy all the time.
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That would be crazy.
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Once they're around you, you've got a community.
Once you've got a community, you've got a power center of its own.
And its power is the power of love.
And you cannot be defeated.
The people with ears to hear will hear you.
And the best of them will follow you.
And that is the way you win a culture war.
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I love to hear from you.
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I love knowing what you're thinking about and what's bothering you and what is encouraging you.
It helps the show.
And even though I can't read a lot of the letters on the air, I do read them.
From Andrew.
Hi, Mr. Clavin.
I can't help but think that one of the main issues we face in our society is that many men need to learn how to be real men of honor and chivalry.
In my personal life, I notice that many adults mumble their words and struggle to hand things over with a firm grip.
I see too many guys who are whiny and anxious.
I believe that if these individuals were to become real men, I could significantly address many of the problems.
It could significantly address many of the problems we have.
I want to add, you yourself gave me advice years ago to be a man, and it was one of the best things for me.
It helped me be able To have the relationship I have today with my daughter.
I probably wouldn't have it if it wasn't for that advice.
I love your show and all that you do.
That is very encouraging to me.
Thank you for telling me this.
Andrew, I could not agree with you more.
I've been watching, I think we've all watched the way that Erica Kirk has been treated.
And obviously, some of this came from Candace Owens, who's just a lunatic at this point.
But I think that the men who did this, who do this, who join in on this, are scum.
And I think that the very base, that and the idea of letting So called transgender people into girls' private spaces.
You know, girls' modesty, girls' privacy is the way they preserve their humanity because the sexual thing is so strong and it's just pure animalism unless there's love involved.
The love transforms sex into something that is not just animal, it is spiritual as well, and that uplifts everybody and makes women, gives women the power to collaborate in creation and to collaborate in the nurturing of souls that is homemaking and just.
Femininity itself.
And you take that away from them when you take away their modesty, when you take away their privacy, and when you treat them like objects, obviously.
And this is the reason that you have chivalry.
Chivalry is a creation of the Catholic Church to fend off the bad behavior of knights in the Dark Ages, of, yeah, knights in the Dark Ages who were just louts, basically.
They weren't King Arthur people.
And yes, you are absolutely right.
Chivalry and honor.
Is true manhood.
It always has been.
It always will be.
And it'll get you, you know, if you want to show how brave you are and how tough you are, chivalry and honor will get you into enough trouble that you will know just how much your integrity counts.
You're absolutely right about this.
From Kitty Hi, Mr. Clavin.
I'm a mom of boys, and I have to say a huge thank you for writing YA novels, both My Teen Sons Love If We Survive and Your Mind War series.
We're getting into the Homelander series next.
I think If We Survive, I'm very proud of that.
The Homelander series, I think they're really going to like.
Two questions Have you seen Malcolm Geat's new book, Galahad and the Grail, yet?
I'm reading that book right now, and I may have him on after I want to finish it first.
I'd never heard of him before, and it's a poem.
It's Galahad and the Grail.
He's going to Do, I think, a trilogy of Arthurian stories.
And he has brought back, I've read a lot of the Arthurian stories, and he's brought back a fair retelling of them in ballad form.
And the poetry is quite good.
It's ballad poetry, it's not complex verse, but it's ballad poetry, and it's really quite good.
So, yes, I have read that, and I am thinking of asking him to come on if he will.
I believe he's a priest as well as a poet.
And the second question is Do you have any other reading suggestions to help boys develop an appreciation for poetry?
I homeschool my kids, so I have a lot of sway over what they read, but honestly, I'm running out of ideas.
I trust your wisdom on raising intellectual young men based on how well Spencer and No Relation turned out.
Yeah, well, that's a good reason to trust it, although probably my wife gets all the credit.
You know, there are books called Poetry for Boys, and I haven't looked at them, so you want to read them first and check them out first.
But there are great poems for boys, especially story poems.
The Highwaymen, great poem.
I think boys would love that poem.
I think girls might love that poem, but it's an action poem.
I'm trying to think offhand.
Certainly, Some of the Greek myths are things that boys would like if they're translated into maybe somewhat sanitized versions.
But there is poetry for boys.
Ulysses by Tennyson, one of my favorite poems.
I think boys would love that about the old king going off on his last adventure.
And they might like that before the Odyssey movie comes out because it's quite interesting and it's inspired.
Tennyson was inspired by Dante's version of the Odyssey.
So there are poems and look them up.
You know, that you can find them.
And as I say, there are books called Poetry for Boys, and you should take a look at them and see if they do what you need.
But check out Ulysses and the Highwaymen.
They might really like those.
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And among the some of the best content we have is coming right now from Luke Rosiak, who is our investigative reporter.
It is one of the areas that I think is very important that we start to fill the gap between conservative or at least patriotic investigative reporting and the kind of investigative reporting that's being done.
By the left.
And Luke has been a major, major factor in our trying to do that at the Daily Wire.
He has got a new series out.
I'm going to let you tell him about it.
Luke, it's good to see you.
How are you doing?
Hey, Andrew, I'm good.
Thank you for having me.
I was watching your video.
I guess they're calling it a mini documentary.
It's about the corruption in the center of this country, and it is mind boggling.
Can you give the audience just a summary of what you found?
Sure.
So, the funny way that I describe it is free butlers for Somalis in Ohio.
That's what everybody, I may go to Ohio just for a free butler.
Yeah.
It wouldn't be nice to have a butler, somebody who would come to your house and cook and clean for you, whatever you need.
That's what they're paying for in Medicaid.
And this person can be anyone.
And there are these businesses that have rosters of older people, you know, you're supposed to be 65 or older or whatever.
You need some, you have some health condition.
And so Medicaid pays for it and they'll come to your house and help you.
But what happened is the Somalis in particular started signing up their own family members to be the assistant to their mom or whatever.
And this is actually allowed too in Ohio.
And there's fraud here, but at the core of it is a program that's, I think, inherently wasteful, and it is permitted.
You can actually get paid to hang out with your own family members.
And when I say hang out, I'm not exaggerating.
You go to these businesses and they list the official services that they provide.
One of them is called companionship and conversation.
So this is in Ohio, which is kind of a red state.
I mean, we've heard about corruption in Minnesota, a blue state, California, obviously one of the most corrupt states in the union.
How much of this is connected to the Somalis?
So, when I asked, so HHS released a database of all the Medicaid spending.
And, you know, Nick Shirley did great work.
And this is kind of has echoes of that.
And some people claimed, well, was he cherry picking?
Was that not representative?
And I'm a data guy.
I like to look at the data and see, like, in aggregate, like, was that fair?
Like, what does it look like at the big picture?
And sure enough, it really is all, it really is like overwhelmingly Somalis.
Especially with these programs that are more easily defrauded, like the stuff that happens inside the privacy of somebody's home, because that's really difficult to show fraud in.
And so I essentially asked the database, because I'm here in DC, I had no connection to Ohio.
I asked the database to show me where there was really sketchy money flying around.
And it took me right to Ohio.
And when I landed, I realized I'm in the middle of this Somali land.
And so, sure enough, I mean, we saw it in Minneapolis.
Those were primarily Medicaid waivers, which is the same thing going on in Ohio.
In both cases, you have the Somalis.
Columbus, Ohio is the second largest place where Somalis live in the United States.
So, what kind of money are we talking about?
How much is being ripped off, would you say?
So, it's a billion dollars a year for, you know, butlers for Somalis in just in Ohio.
I think we should call it Jeeves for thieves.
I think we should.
Yeah.
And I mean, this is happening in New York as well.
I don't know what ethnicities or anything is happening there, but people getting paid to like take care of their family members.
By Medicaid is apparently now the most common job in New York State.
And when they come out with these economic figures, that's like we have a lot of job growth, they're actually losing jobs, but they're adding so many people that are getting paid by the government to hang out with their own family in their own house.
And they count that as jobs.
So are these people essentially taking the system and using the rules?
Are they even committing fraud?
I mean, they're using the rules to take the money, but the rules are what the rules are, or are they actually breaking the rules?
I think it's a mix of both.
And the problem is, there is a lot of people that are straight up defrauding the system, but it's hard to prove it.
It would be very time.
And I spent months on this and I was able to track, you know, okay, so Omar Muhammad is actually the brother of Abdikar Muhammad.
It's very difficult to do, it's very time intensive.
I was able to kind of figure out what was going on, but proving it in a court of law and doing this at scale for the government, it's kind of like playing whack a mole to find the fraud.
At the best case scenario, there's no fraud and we're just paying people to hang out with their family members.
Worst case, there's massive fraud.
I think the easiest thing to do from a policy standpoint is just terminate this practice of paying people to hang out with their family members because it makes it too difficult to police the fraud.
But when I walk through these buildings, so if I'm getting paid to hang out with my mom because she's 65, I don't get paid directly by Medicaid.
I become an employee of this middleman company that then has the ID number to bill Medicaid.
And so there are all these middleman companies, and it's so lucrative now to.
To be in this Medicaid industry, that you drive down the street in Northeast Columbus and all the other businesses have shut down.
Everyone is just operating their own home health company.
And they've got employees who are really just people hanging out with their own families.
They may have people that have or purport to have a roster of old ladies that they go and check on, but we don't know if they're really going there.
And one can imagine how these are all Medicaid patients, they're all poor people.
None of them have paid much in taxes at all.
And now they're having paid servants come to their house, and it's not even for medical things.
But the point is, they're poor.
It would not be that hard to offer someone a kickback and say, hey, if I give you a hundred bucks or a case of beer, will you go to this doctor who's going to write down that you could use some help at home?
And then I'm not really going to come there, but you just don't say anything about it.
That's basically how easy it is.
And I think maybe part of the reason why we see Somalis do it is they have these gland based networks that make it easy to have a doctor in on it, a bunch of old ladies in on it.
And then the people that operate these businesses.
But the businesses, the background of these people, when you look up who incorporated these LLCs and you look into their background, oh boy.
So, yeah, I read in the Daily Wire that said that your investigations have inspired investigators in DC.
Is that something that you have?
Do you have any hope that that's going to have any results?
So, you know, JD Vance responded to the story and he's the head of this task force, which is really cool.
Think that he would be as competent and as aggressive as anyone could be as a fraud investigator.
I do have concerns that it's not a long term policy solution.
Maybe it'll help embarrass, you know, if you get a few case studies and prosecute them, it may help move the needle in terms of narrative and political will to make people understand what this really is.
But it's kind of like filling a bucket with five gallons of water and then taking an eyedropper and taking four of those gallons out one at a time.
It's like, why don't you just turn off the hose?
Well, you know, you say that, but then wouldn't they have to get rid of?
I mean, it's not, this is not the only program being abused.
They're using preschool, abusing preschools and all kinds of almost every kind of entitlement there is.
They're kind of, they've kind of glommed onto it.
You'd have to just shut down their whole entitlement system, which would make me happy, but I don't think they could get away with it.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, the waivers are given out one at a time per program and per state.
And so you can start with what they call the personal services waiver.
And personal services just means they're not even medical.
So, you know, basically, the monetary justification offered by people like moderate Republican Governor Mike DeWine in Ohio was it's very expensive to put somebody in a nursing home.
And so, if you had a poor person who really did need to go to a nursing home, that would cost 100 grand a year to the taxpayer.
If there was a way you could just send nurses to their house once in a while, maybe it only costs 40 grand and we've saved some money.
But oftentimes, I think what people on the left don't understand is incentives.
A lot of people will suddenly find themselves to be feeling quite infirm if there's a monetary incentive to be infirm.
Not that many people are going to go out and really try to get into a nursing home really hard if they don't need it.
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Yeah.
But there are people who are perfectly capable of living at home without assistance who will try to get a doctor to say that they need help if they can just keep living their normal life.
But then their spouse gets a free paycheck just for hanging out with them.
Where can people find your video?
Dailywire.com.
You should see the whole.
We've got like three parts out on this series.
There's more to drop, and you can find the links to each story at the bottom as well as the video.
You can also find it on my Twitter, Luke Rosiak.
And then At the top of my Twitter, because I just tweeted it recently, there's a funny little you'll hear this phone call where I call up this guy that owns a business that took a million dollars from Medicaid and he's got like 30 criminal charges, child endangerment, theft, fraud.
And you can just hear how it goes with me because it's he's he's very he's very entitled to this millions of dollars.
He came from Sierra Leone and he had nothing and now he has a million dollars and he's a criminal, but he says he's just I was too dumb, I didn't know what the law is, and the government says it's fine.
Are you telling me I don't have a right to?
To my business.
So, yeah, take a listen to that and I'm interested to know what people think.
Corruption is comical, except when you think about the money being stolen.
Luke Rosiak, great work.
It really is good stuff.
And I hope people will go and check it out.
It's good to see you.
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