Ep. 1241’s host mocks economists’ failed predictions while praising Trump’s first seven months for reviving U.S. manufacturing via tariffs and trade deals, comparing it to Reagan’s Cold War triumph. They accuse media of racial bias—ignoring black-on-white violence in Cincinnati while amplifying anti-Israel narratives in Gaza—and warn against radical distortions of Western values by both far-right figures like Nick Fuentes and leftist projects like the 1619 Project. The episode ties cultural preservation to Christianity, promotes supplements like Balance of Nature, and ends with a Daily Wire Plus pitch, framing dissent as necessary truth in an era of elite manipulation. [Automatically generated summary]
Economists have long predicted that Trump's tariff and trade policies would cause an economic disaster.
But in reality, it now seems Trump's plans could lead to spectacular success.
So economists are trying to learn from this experience and find out what is this thing called reality and why does it keep getting everything so terribly wrong.
To find the answers, the Daily Wire used the latest technology to actually shrink our crack team of investigative reporters until they were so small they could fit inside the worldview of an academic.
We then injected them one by one into the minds of America's top economists, except for reporter Spencer Lindquist, who seems to have dripped out somewhere.
So watch your step as you're walking around and if you hear a crunching noise, call a very small ambulance.
Our first interview was with Princeton economist Dr. Herkimer Fudd, who was awarded the 2017 Nobel Prize in Economics for the most creative use of the word unexpectedly in explaining why all his financial predictions turned out to be wrong.
Dr. Fudd told one of our tiny reporters, quote, economics is a science, and as with any science, we first formulate a theory, then test the theory against the facts, and if the facts disprove the theory, then we simply declare that anyone who disagrees with the theory is threatening to cause another Great Depression.
In fact, in a little while, it'll be the centennial of the Great Depression, and economics departments across the nation will be celebrating 100 years of not having to change our minds about anything, unquote.
Another economist interviewed by our microscopic reporters was Harvard professor Theodophilus Querilis, who won the Pulitzer Prize for a series of videos for the Wall Street Journal in which he simply shrieked the word tariffs over and over in a high-pitched voice and then dissolved into a puddle of tears.
Dr. Querilis explained, quote, tariffs are an absolute disaster.
Yes, they incentivize American manufacturing and open up new markets for American products, thus freeing us from the Chinese-dominated supply chain that was threatening to leave us defenseless against a rapidly growing communist war machine, but they're going to make it impossible for me to afford a new Mercedes.
And if I have to drive around Cambridge in some crappy Chevy like a schmuck, it will threaten to cause another Great Depression.
And I can't afford the Zoloft either, unquote.
We also spoke with Yale economics professor Dr. Clapperton Drivell, who was recently awarded the Nemers Prize in Economics for proving that a penny saved is not actually a penny earned, but really just a worthless anachronistic coin that will probably sit forgotten in a jar with a lot of other pennies until your children have to figure out what to do with them after you die.
Dr. Drivell told our micro-reporter, quote, Donald Trump is playing fast and loose with the international trading system, whereas we were playing a game called, I'm an American idiot, so please punch me repeatedly in the face, until a few European oligarchs escape to Switzerland with their fortunes and everyone else has to learn to speak Mandarin.
Trump's reckless approach could cause the entire world financial system to come crashing suddenly down around our ears instead of slowly, slowly draining the nation of its life's blood, which would at least give me time to cash out my portfolio and retire to Thailand where you can marry a 15-year-old and live like a king for 60 grand a year, unquote.
To demonstrate that Trump's real-world successes could have disastrous theoretical ramifications, an international team of economists has come together to build a model demonstrating how a stack of billions of dollars in tariff revenues could tip over,
knocking a swinging boot into a bucket that would then release a marble down a zigzagging staircase until it strikes a pole with a ball on top that will drop through a bathtub onto a seesaw, flipping a diver into a barrel that dislodges a cage balanced on another pole so that the cage shimmies down on top of a plastic mouse.
This doesn't really prove anything, but at least it'll keep the economists entertained while Trump saves the country.
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Trigger warning, I'm Andrew Klavan, and this is The Andrew Klavan Show.
All right, we are back laughing our way through the greatest presidency ever.
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It now streams earlier on Fridays.
It'll be released first on Daily Wire Plus at 12 p.m. Central Time, and then at 1 p.m. Central Time on YouTube, which is 2 p.m. in reality.
I want to start this, since we have a new time and everything, I want to start today on a serious personal note.
I have always been, as you know, very outspoken in my support for Israel, my love of the Jewish people.
I consider Ben Shapiro a personal friend, and I admire his work and his intellectual integrity very much.
But if Sidney Sweeney is going to become the face of the Nazi Party, all bets are off.
I mean, principles have their place, and morality and common decency, common sense, they all have their place, but the heart wants what it wants.
And, you know, because of my personal Jewish heritage, it would probably be short-sighted of me to go full Nazi.
I might just audit courses at Harvard or vote for Zorhan Mamdani or something just a little Nazi like that.
But from now on, I will be doing the show with a loud, angry German accent and saying completely atrocious, indefensible things.
So basically, it'll be the Matt Walsh show, but without the skinny jeans.
So having said all that, I just thought I'd break that to you.
Having said all that, let me just command you in an angry German voice, go out and pre-order After That the Dark.
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So let's get to today's episode of Fantastic for America.
So just to lead off as an introduction, many years ago, when I was in my early 30s, Ronald Reagan won re-election.
I may have been exactly 30.
Reagan won re-election with the most electoral votes in American history.
He lost only one state, which was Minnesota, so that doesn't really count.
And so he was incredibly popular at that point after a slow start.
And as a youngish man, I didn't know very much about politics, and I assumed that Reagan was a dumb actor who was going to cause a nuclear holocaust by being mean to the Soviet Union, whose wonderful communist government represented the inevitable future for mankind.
So I was still reading the New York Times, basically.
But I did notice this funny thing, and I remember this very vividly.
I was in an office.
I had gotten one of my first offices.
And I remembered thinking, gee, it's funny.
Suddenly, there's a lot of left-wing stuff on TV, the comedy, the shows, a lot of movies are suddenly making left-wing kind of comments.
Every reference to Reagan is bad.
And I thought, if Reagan is so popular that he just won a record number of electoral votes in every state but one, why isn't Hollywood making movies for that huge audience who's out there celebrating Ronald Reagan?
And at the time, and I'm absolutely serious about this.
I thought, well, I guess maybe all these Democrats are out of work in Washington.
So maybe they went to Hollywood and they'll spend their time there until the next election.
But really, it took me a long time before I realized that basically they had seized control or at that point were seizing control of the means of producing information and they were using Hollywood and the academies and the news media to push leftism, which is always a disaster in reality, but to push it into people's imaginations, to make people think it was a good thing because you don't have to test it if it's just in a movie and you don't have to test it if it's taught in school.
You have to test it in the real world where it always comes up with disasters.
The same thing is kind of happening now.
I mean, Donald Trump is actually a fairly popular president.
His weird, or off-beat, I should say, personality alienates some people and he's very aggressive and that's alienating some people.
People haven't quite decided.
His economy hasn't quite shown up yet, so people haven't quite decided how they feel about him.
But still, there's obviously this huge audience for him.
And still, there are a lot of things going on in the culture that are trying to convince us that this is a terrible thing that's happening.
So that's what I want to talk about.
I want to talk about the culture and the culture war that's going on, even as we make incredible strides politically.
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Chapter one, how to read the news.
Without playing the Trump happiness montage, because we're never playing that again.
That joke is dead.
It is dead.
It is buried.
We buried it out in the backyard.
It's like it's finished.
I want to put everything in context because if you look at the news and you erase all the stories about bad things that the experts say are going to happen but haven't happened or might happen or could happen or all those things.
And if you erase all the stories that are centered on Donald Trump's personality and the language he uses, because he has an offbeat personality and it's very dramatic and it is a good story and I understand that.
But if you take all of that away and just look at what this administration has accomplished, this is the most insanely successful administration I've ever seen.
I can't think of in seven months any administration that has done what this has done.
It's not just what it's doing in the moment.
In fact, in some ways, it's not at all what it's doing at the moment because the stuff it's doing is going to have long-lasting effects.
Trump is transforming America into a nation that instead of declining, instead of accepting decline, it could actually dominate this century.
It could come back to where it was in the last century, and this could be another American century.
And, you know, I know that sounds like Trumpian hyperbole, but you can't accuse me of being MAGA.
I get hit by the MAGA people all the time for the times that I've criticized Trump.
And I'm also not predicting the future.
In other words, we could get hit by an asteroid.
Who knows?
Nobody knows the future.
I'm extrapolating the trajectory, which sounds like a kind of a jazz if you've got to extrapolate the trajectory.
But I'm saying where we would go if all things being equal on the trajectory that Trump is putting us on.
He is building an America that can fight a war against China, whether it's a trade war or a shooting war, which we are not right now.
In other words, right now, if a war starts with Toronto, we would have to buy our bullets from China.
We would have to basically depend on them.
They could cut us off with a lot of stuff that we need.
But his new deals are opening up markets in the EU.
He's got a great new deal with the EU.
South Korea, he did yesterday, I think it was.
And they're putting tariffs on their goods coming in, but no tariffs on our goods coming out.
So we're actually opening these markets that have been cutting us out.
They've been playing us for fools because we were fools.
And, you know, the experts can say, oh, well, you know, car manufacturers buy foreign parts, so that's going to increase the price of cars.
Maybe it will, but maybe also it mean we'll start manufacturing some of that stuff here, which will spur American creativity because you have to manufacture things to compete with things, and you have a little advantage with the tariffs, but still you got to compete.
That means that we can start to bring back the jobs.
You know, and everybody said everything's going to be robotics.
Listen, we've gone through this before.
Every time they mechanize something, it creates new jobs.
For a minute, it causes problems, but then new jobs follow.
So we can look forward to that.
And this is important because it wrongfoots the Chinese supply chain, which they've been abusing by stealing our intellectual property.
He's made the Europeans pay up more money for their defense.
He has made Israel stronger.
He is even putting Israel in a position where it might be able to arrange alliances with its frenemies, you know, the people who can tolerate it, like Saudi Arabia in the Middle East.
And that means that he can start to move military assets.
Michael Duran was talking about this on the interview on Wednesday, which if you haven't seen it, you really should.
It's a great interview about what's going on in the Middle East.
But I knew this anyway before he said it, because I know people in the DOD, and they go and they do these war games with China, and we keep losing.
And that's the problem.
So the Wall Street Journal can scream tariffs, tariffs, tariffs all at once.
But if we don't get the supply train chain through our country, then you're going to see that China is going to just get more and more powerful while we sink away.
So this is long-term stuff.
You know, Ronald Reagan won the Cold War.
I was alive, and I remember Reagan was the only person who said it could be done, who didn't take the Soviet Union for granted.
Even after it fell, George Bush, the first George Bush, was trying to keep it alive because he was afraid chaos would follow.
So it was really Reagan who did it with powerful assists from St. John Paul II, who was then Pope, and Margaret Thatcher, Prime Minister of England.
And after it was over, they gave the Nobel Peace Prize to Mikhail Gorbachev, the last president of the Soviet Union, saying that he had something to do with his fall.
He didn't.
He was desperately, desperately trying to keep the communist Soviet slave state alive.
Reagan outsmarted him, outdid him, and he basically had to give in to it.
The Nobel Prize belonged to Reagan.
Well, 15 years from now, 10, 15 years from now, when the Chinese communists are boxed in and maybe they can't get to Taiwan the way they want to, and maybe they can't cheat us in the markets, and maybe we've got energy dominance again.
I am sure Xi Jinping will get a similar Nobel Prize, but it should be Trump.
And on top of all of this, there are the cultural victories, which I have not ever seen before.
Some of it were listed by Trump fan.
He loves Trump so much that he actually got up and gave a speech about Trump's victories in the Senate.
This is Senator Corey Booker.
This cut one.
I see law firms bending a knee to this president, not caring about the larger principles that those free speech rights, that you can take on any client.
Why are you bending the knee?
I see universities that should be bastions of free speech bending at the knee to this president.
I see businesses taking late-night talk show hosts off the air because they dare to insult a president.
I see people who want mergers suddenly think that they have to pay tribute to this president.
And what are the very people here elected to defend the Constitution of the United States saying, oh, well, today, let's look the other way and pass some resources that won't go to Connecticut, that won't go to Illinois, that won't go to New York, that will go to the states he likes.
So this was very inspiring to the Democrats.
They immediately responded.
It's cut two.
I'm Spartacus.
Well, that was very moving.
But then Trump, you know, listened, heard Corey Booker listing his accomplishments, and he made this statement.
This is cut three.
We're going to win so much.
We're going to win at every level.
We're going to win economically.
We're going to win with the economy.
We're going to win with military.
We're going to win with health care and for our veterans.
We're going to win with every single facet.
My, oh my, what a wonderful day.
We're going to win so much, you may even get tired of winning.
Yay!
You'll say, please, please, it's too much winning.
We can't take it anymore.
I feel pretty.
Oh, so pretty.
I feel pretty and witty and gay.
We have to keep winning.
We have to win more.
We're going to win more.
So that was Trump's thank you to Cory Booker for listing his achievements like that.
But the people who are, of course, are trying to sell us a completely bizarre alternative reality are the people in news.
And I would like to see, here's the way I'd like to see them change up writing the news.
But if they're not going to do it, we have to learn to read the news by editing these things out and not being affected by them.
So we don't just react by saying that everything they say is the opposite is true, because that's also not true.
But, you know, they should start taking out words like, you know, the AP had all these words that you were not supposed to use, like illegal immigrants, and you had to use the right pronouns and all this.
You had to capitalize black.
When I was copy editing after that, the dark, I had to go through it and make black lowercase again because the copy editor, not because she's evil, but because she's just using the style book, was capitalizing the word black.
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And I thought, if white's not capitalized, then black's not capitalized.
And I went through the entire book and put them back.
So that's something that they're really pushing.
But I would like to say other restrictions.
We should stop using the term far right.
And every time you see the term far right, you should ask yourself, well, wait a minute, how far has the left gone?
If the left has gone further and further to the left, is the far right just the center?
Is it just what everybody believes?
Is it just the ordinary stuff?
You know, we should stop using the term conspiracy theory to describe things that may turn out to be true, like the Wuhan Lav Leak and the Russian collusion hoax and the Russian, you know, the Obama hoax, Russian collusion hoax that was now being exposed by Tulsi Gabbard.
You know, those were supposed to be conspiracy theories, but they weren't.
You know, it's like you've got to remember Clavinon.
You know, Clavanon is the principle that even if you have a true conspiracy theory like QAnon, where they're inventing crazy stuff about powerful people abusing children, Clavinon is the truth, that powerful people do abuse children, and we need stiffer enforcement and we need to expose them and we need capital punishment for most of them.
And, you know, I read a story in the Wall Street Journal this morning, and they've now started to very oh so cleverly, they've really gone south this paper.
They've oh so cleverly renamed the big beautiful bill, the tax and spend bill.
It's the tax and spend bill because I know Republicans don't like tax and spend.
Well, we've got to stop them.
You've got to edit all that stuff out.
They frame every issue, and this is the big one, really.
They frame every issue in relationship to Trump.
When Harvard University agrees to pay a fine for basically teaching their kids to be Jew-hating Nazis, fascist Nazis, who make Jewish students uncomfortable, that's not bending the knee to Trump.
That's not caving to Trump.
That's doing what's right and the president forcing a university to do what's right or not get our federal funds.
That's what's happening.
They were evil.
They did something evil and he caught them and he's stopping them.
That's a good thing.
And it's not like defying Trump when the Fed refuses to cut interest rates as they did this week.
I think that the Fed is politicized and nobody wants to talk about that because we need people around the world to believe in the Fed, to believe it's all on the up and up.
But Jerome Powell is not on the up and up.
He cut interest rates to help the Democrats win the 2024 election, which they didn't, but he knew that would help.
And it would help now to spread the joy that's rising in the economy, the growing GDP and so on, to spread that to ordinary people so they can buy houses, they can start investing, which they can't do.
They can't buy cars, they can't buy houses, they can't use their credit cards if the interest rates are too high, which they are.
And I think Jerome Powell is skewed.
I think he's a bent guy.
And so I think that, you know, he's not defying him.
He's doing what he wants to do for his own reasons.
We don't have to speculate on his reasons, but let's not put everything in terms of Trump.
You know, this is a moment.
This is a moment that is amazing.
It's not me just celebrating Donald Trump because I'm not that way to begin with.
And I'm not that way with Donald Trump.
But I have been so gleeful every day because the news is actually good.
The only thing that's bad is the reporting.
So we need to read through it.
And I'd like to see some reporters stop writing it that way as well.
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Chapter two, Race to the Bottom.
So now that I've become a Nazi in the hopes that Sidney Sweeney will like me, I want to say a kind word about my fellow fascist racist Nick Fuentes.
I told you I was watching Nick talk with Candace Owens and this interview they did.
I don't know what Candace is thinking anymore.
I mean, the stuff she's saying is too bizarre for me even to comment on.
But Nick got very upset, as I told you, after the talk with Candace and kind of saying she was late to the racist game and wasn't playing fair.
And, you know, he said, I'm the OG when it comes to racist, basically, and pointing out that he had lost friends and supporters by openly hating blacks and Jews.
And, you know, I was thinking that's really true.
You know, he hasn't been suggestive.
He hasn't said, oh, I'm not being anti-Semitic, you know, like Candace does and like Tucker Carlson does.
He hasn't done that at all.
He has been openly what he is.
And it has cost him socially, of course, because it's still, even for people who feel that way secretly, they don't want it to come out.
Now he's complaining that he is a permanent incel.
So here is Nick Fuentes complaining about that cut for.
I am a Rizless unf ⁇ Chud, okay?
And that's how it is.
That's how I was born.
I'm an incel.
And some people say, you're rich, you're famous, you're not bad looking.
Why can't you riz up the baddies?
Why can't you riz up Livy Dunn?
It's because I am a chud.
I am a rizless chud.
That is why.
So it's over for me.
So I actually feel, I kind of have this weird heart for Nick Fuentes because I feel that there's an actual good person inside him who's been taken, you know, the devil got to him by saying, nobody will say this.
If you say this, this will make you famous.
And, you know, he has said some really stupid stuff like that Holocaust.
He suggested the Holocaust was a fake and that segregation was good for blacks in the South.
It's just ridiculous stuff.
I mean, really embarrassingly silly stuff.
But a lot of the stuff he says is stuff that people are not supposed to see, but actually is there.
I mean, you know, this is, and I feel for him about this because I feel that people get so frustrated at being censored and told they're racist for seeing things that are there.
So, you know, he says that Africa did not develop the great civilizations that Europe did.
That's true.
He says that there talks about the high crime in black neighborhoods.
That's, of course, is true.
You know, the Jews love the Jews dearly, but they sometimes circle the wagons.
I thought that happened with the Epstein story.
I thought all the, you know, the really big Jewish commentators like Ben and Mark Levin and Barry Weiss, they were all saying, you know, oh, it's a nothing burger.
I thought, whoa, That's not.
I mean, I think maybe they were worried that there is some Israel involved in that because I think Epstein spent some time in Israel.
But what Nick doesn't understand, the thing that makes me feel sorry for him is even if everything he says is true, and it's not, most of what he, a lot of what he says is not true, and a lot of it is simplistic.
I mean, there's a million reasons why civilizations didn't develop in Africa.
If you read Tom Soule about that, he's brilliant on it.
It's just very complex.
So it makes a civilization.
It's not just one thing that makes a civilization.
All kinds of things that go into it.
But let's just pretend for a minute that every racist thing that Nick Fuente says is true.
It's still, there's still different ways to look at it, to react to it, right?
If he looked at the situation with tragic Christian love and compassion, if he remembered that this is the image of God he's talking about when he runs people down for the way they look or for the way the race they were born into, not only would he get a more complex, deep, and realistic view of the world, he would be happier.
He might not be a ris list judge.
He might get a date from time to time.
He's obviously an intelligent guy.
He's a witty guy.
And he might be able to see the world, the human race, as something very beautiful if broken.
And the thing is, when I was thinking about this, because I really do feel this way about him, I thought, like, there is a guy in there somewhere.
I thought, the thing that I want to say to Nick, I also want to say to the left, the left is insane.
This week, there was this horrible, horrible shooting in New York City.
I'm sure you heard about it.
This is in Manhattan.
It's right in the middle of town.
A young black man who felt he'd been injured playing football in high school, I believe.
He thought he had a brain injury from that.
Walked into a Park Avenue office building that housed some NFL offices and opened fire with a rifle and, of course, just killed four beautiful people who had done nothing to anybody, right?
And he's a mom and a very brave police officer, you know, and black people and white people, everything that makes New York New York.
One guy had a Muslim name, everything that makes New York New York and by extension makes America America.
He went in there and killed all these people.
And they had a security cam picture of him.
He's obviously a black guy.
And here's Aaron Burnett on CNN before anyone knew really anything describing him.
Cut five.
Showing your hair to John's reporting that they do know what they look like.
Male, possibly white, mustache, sunglasses in that building, isolated to, they believe, to various locations, including upper floors.
Now, nobody was saying possibly white, but her.
Nobody was saying that.
What's wrong?
I want to say the same thing to Nick.
What are you doing to yourself?
What do you think?
You're going to sell people lies.
Are you going to use lies and that's going to reduce racism?
Who would whispered that in your ear?
Who do you think told you to do something as stupid and ineffective and degrading to yourself as that?
In Cincinnati, Ohio, a gang of blacks wolf-packed some white people, three white people, I think it was, beat the living hell out of them.
And the police say they were whispering to each other before the attack.
So it looks like they were conspiring to do it.
Now, I don't have to say this, but if it had been white people attacking black people, we know how it would have been, how it would have been reported instantaneously.
If you think about George Floyd, remember the officer, Derek Chauvin, who was put away from murder, ridiculously, for the death of George Floyd.
He was never accused of a hate crime.
They said we don't have the proof of that.
So there was no reason to report it as a white, black story, but they did.
But anybody who should say, oh my gosh, this is, you know, these are black people attacking white people, then it's a sin.
The police chief in Cincinnati, a woman named Teresa Fiji, came out and scolded the press for showing the pictures because you could see in the pictures what color people were.
Here's police chief Fiji, cut six.
At times, social media and mainstream media and their commentaries are a misrepresentation of the circumstances surrounding any given event.
What that does, that causes us some difficulties in thoroughly investigating the activity and enforcing the law.
Because what happens, that social media post and your coverage of it distorts the content of what actually happened.
What is she talking about?
First of all, it's not her job.
It's not her job to uphold the law.
It's not her job to scold the media.
And secondly, the media is bringing up the pictures.
Their pictures were on social media.
They showed what happened.
Everybody knew what I mean.
She just doesn't want us to see it.
I mean, it's kind of like in England, they're strengthening their censorship laws.
They're trying to make it almost impossible.
They're basically eliminating free speech.
Why?
Because they replaced so many English people with Muslim people from overseas, with Muslim migrants, that they're overwhelming the cities there.
They're the majority in many of the cities there.
And they don't want people to say, oh, they're raping women and they're killing people and they don't agree with our values.
And we want them gone.
They don't want them to say it.
It's basically, we replaced you in your own country.
We destroyed your culture.
But we don't want you to say it because then it would be our fault.
But if you don't say it, then we'll just quietly wipe you off the face of the map.
A black city councilwoman in Cincinnati named Victoria Parks, I want to make sure we know her name, said of the people who were beaten up, they begged for that beatdown.
I'm grateful for this story.
You know, in the Bible, Jesus said, the words that come out of your mouth reveal your heart.
What do you think that woman's heart looks like?
What do you think Victoria Parks' heart looks like who says something like that, to live with that kind of hate and anger with you?
What's the difference?
You know, this is the thing.
Let me do one more.
The New York Times, other outlets, a lot of outlets are posting photographs of children in Gaza who have diseases like cerebral palsy and calling it starvation.
Now, I believe there are starvation victims in Gaza.
I would think there would be.
Maybe there aren't.
But they keep suggesting that Israel is responsible for this.
We can see, we have people who have been in there and see the food that Israel is allowing in, stacks and stacks of food.
And the United Nations and Hamas are colluding to keep that from them so that useful idiots like the New York Times will direct hatred to the Jews.
And by the way, Netanyahu, who handled this wrongly, he said, we're not starving anybody and there's no starvation.
He just should have stopped about halfway through that.
And Trump, who's looking at the pictures and who has a heart for human suffering, he's obviously sees his presidency as bringing peace, which, by the way, is the opposite of what fascists do.
Fascists love war because it keeps emotions high so people support them.
And Trump said this, Cut Seven.
We have a lot of access to food.
We got a lot of food ourselves.
And we're going to bring it over there.
We're also going to make sure that they don't have barriers stopping people.
You know, you've seen the areas where they actually have food.
And the people are screaming for the food in there.
They're 35, 40 yards away.
And they won't let them because they have lines that are set up.
And whether they're set up by Hamas or whoever, but they're very strict lines, so we have to get rid of those lines.
But we're going to be getting some good, strong food.
We can save a lot of people.
I mean, some of those kids are, that's real starvation stuff.
I see it.
And you can't fake that.
And, you know, he's right.
It doesn't matter why they're starving.
I mean, it matters why they're starving.
But what matters as far as we're concerned is making sure that the aid gets to them.
And if they break down those barriers and find it's from the United Nations, I hope Trump will tell us that, which I think I think, because that's what all the reporters who are there are saying.
Racism drives you insane.
Racism drives you insane.
It does.
You know, I mean, I get it.
They're racist.
Some races have bigger problems than others.
Some races have more accomplishments than others.
If that's the way you look at people, but if that is the way you look at people, you will go nuts.
You will go nuts.
You know, Douglas Murray, who I really admire and like, he's a good guy and he's a really brilliant guy, wrote in one of his books, he said at the end of the book, look, I don't especially think of myself as being white, and I don't particularly want to be cornered into thinking in such terms.
But if you are going to corner me, then I will say this.
The good things about being white include being born into a tradition that has given the world a disproportionate number, if not most, of the things that the world currently benefits from.
Almost every medical advancement, almost every scientific advancement, most of the world's oldest and longest established educational institutions.
And he goes on and on.
Now, Douglas isn't saying that white people are better than other people.
You know, like I said, there's a million of reasons why civilizations rise and fall.
What Douglas is saying is that if you want to play that game, then everybody gets to play that game.
Because Nick Fuentes and that black city councilwoman and Nicole Hannah Jones, who wrote all those lies in the 1619 projects of the New York Times, they're not on different roads.
They're not going different directions.
They're all going the same direction.
They're all doing the same thing.
They're all the same person.
Nick and Nicole, they're the same person with different color skin on.
That's what it is.
And it's like, it's not the facts.
That lying is going to solve this.
That censoring people is going to solve this problem.
When it is a problem with the human heart, tribalism and racial hatred, these are problems with the human heart.
But it's not the truth we have to be afraid of.
It's the human heart we have to be afraid of.
It's the human heart we have to school in understanding in the truth how you can love people.
How can you love people?
You know, I have friends who are racist and they'll say, well, I got mugged three times and every time I was a black guy, and I'll say, well, maybe, you know, there's a bigger story to it.
And then they'll say, I don't care.
I just don't want to be mugged.
That's what the left calls lived experience.
They're living off their lived experience.
Living off your lived experience is a limited way of seeing the world.
Living off your lights, which tell you to love your neighbor, which tell you that the world is a small place.
We're all going to be living in it.
That's a different thing.
Then if you don't do that, everything becomes Nick Fuentes and Nicole Hannah Jones.
Living Off Lived Experience00:02:23
That's what it is.
It's Nick and Nicole.
There was actually a depiction in this new movie, The Fantastic Four, that spoke into this issue in a new way.
And I will get to that.
I will get to why I think that there is a hope in the image of Fantastic Four America.
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Smithsonian's Silent Culture War00:09:32
Chapter 3, The Silent Culture War.
Before I get to Fantastic Four, I have to tell you one quick story that you don't know, and I know you don't know it because I didn't know it, and I follow this stuff really carefully.
And a friend of mine at church actually told me about the story.
I was thinking, how did I miss this story?
This was reported in the New York Times with a writer's name Robin Pogremen.
She says, Amy Sherrold, the artist who rocketed to fame with her 2018 portrait of Michelle Obama.
You may have missed that particular rocket, but apparently in the New York Times, she rocketed to fame.
She has withdrawn her upcoming solo show from the Smithsonian's National Portrait Gallery because she said she had been told the museum was considering removing her painting depicting a transgender statue of liberty to avoid provoking President Trump.
The artist said, I entered into this collaboration in good faith, believing that the institution shared a commitment to presenting work that reflects the full complex truth of American life.
This is a letter she wrote to the secretary of the Smithsonian, Lonnie Bunch III, who I think is one of these sinister guys who pretends to be acting in good faith, but is actually a way, way, way, way woke leftist.
That Lonnie Bunch is a guy who should go.
The president can't just remove him, but he should be gotten out of that position because he is basically trying to bring this stuff in and would be bringing it in if the Trump administration hadn't caught him.
The artist says, unfortunately, it's become clear that the conditions no longer support the integrity of the work as conceived.
Ms. Sherold said that Mr. Bunch on Monday had proposed replacing the painting with a video of people reacting to the painting and discussing transgender issues, an idea the artist rejected because she said it would have included anti-trans views.
When I understood a video would replace the painting, I decided to cancel.
The video would have opened up for debate the value of trans visibility, and I was opposed to that being a part of the American Sublime narrative.
She didn't even want that opinion.
And by the way, Bunch and his group says that they weren't going to take out the painting.
They just wanted to add the video.
A White House official said that the removal of this exhibit is a principled and necessary step toward restoring what it sees as the proper role of institutions like the Smithsonian.
The transforming liberty painting, which sought to reinterpret one of our nation's most sacred symbols through a divisive and ideological lens, fundamentally strayed from the mission and spirit of our national museums, said Lindsay Halligan, a special assistant to the president, who's been working on his efforts to transform the Smithsonian.
Now, the funny thing is, is I agree with everybody here, okay?
I agree with everybody.
I think the artist was right to pull the piece if it wasn't going to pull the exhibit, if it wasn't going to say what she wanted to say.
I think she had a right to say it.
And I think the administration was right in keeping it out of the Smithsonian.
Work like that does not belong in the Smithsonian Institute.
That's not where it should be on.
You know, if she wants to paint that, that kind of radical notion of what the Statue of Liberty, that it should be a trans black male, I think it was, that should go somewhere, I guess, but it shouldn't go into our National Museum.
You know, a very funny musical satirist who I liked a lot named Tom Lear died.
He was 97.
He was actually a mathematician who taught at Harvard and MIT and UC Santa Cruz.
But he wrote funny satire songs.
And in the 60s and 70s, he had this kind of moment of flash.
So here's a funny one he wrote about World War III coming.
He said, you have to write the songs for World War III before it happens, since the world won't be there after it's gone.
Here's just a little bit of that as cut eight.
So long, mom, I'm off to drop the bomb.
So don't wait up for me.
But while you swelter down there in your shelter, you can watch me on your TV.
While we're attacking frontally, watch Brinkly and Huntily describing contrapuntally the cities we have lost.
No need for you to miss a minute of the agonizing Holocaust.
Anyway, he was funny and the songs were funny and all this stuff.
But he was, of course, a left-wing kind of radical guy.
It was the anti-nuclear proliferation, which was the thing that finally was nuclear proliferation that finally brought down the Soviet Union.
But these were his opinions.
He was funny and he was not a huge star, but he was the kind of guy you passed his records around and you listened to him and they were a little naughty and he would make fun of Catholics and things like that.
So the Washington Post published a piece by a guy named David von Driel that said this.
He said, there never was a time like the 1950s, not even during the 1950s.
Not if you have in mind the decade of conformity of moms in pearls and church-going families of patriotic youth and apple pies cooling on the sills of tidy new suburban homes.
The 50s were a time of protest, division, and disillusionment.
Tom Lehrer said it to bouncy music and satirical lyrics.
He's saying that Tom Lyric was the real 50s.
That's not true.
That is simply, I mean, just factually, that's not true.
The moms in pearls and the church-going families and the patriotic youth and apple pies cooling on the sills of tidy new suburban homes was in fact the mainstream.
It was the heart of the country.
It was the idea the country had of itself.
It was the standards the country held itself to.
It was just that people like this guy wanted it to be something else.
Just like now, the Democrat Party has used all its amazing power and communication power to convince us that their little sliver of radicals is the opinion of the country.
That's how they shut people up.
By convincing them of that, unfortunately, they seem to have also convinced themselves of this.
The fact is, you know, I think you need radicals on the left and the right in a country, a free country.
You have these standards that uphold the center, that uphold the normal ways that human beings thrive.
That boy-girl marriages, that's one way that human beings thrive.
Faithful marriages is a way that human beings thrive.
I noticed the left is just absolutely going bats trying to reinterpret the adulterers caught on cold play.
What's the problem here?
Why should we have these cameras?
Why is everybody shaming them?
No, they committed adultery.
They should be shamed, ridiculed, mocked.
If we're doing it to entertain ourselves, I don't care.
That is a value that should be the central value.
But it doesn't matter to me if somebody wants to write a work of art in which adultery, like Casablanca, in which adultery is the best thing that happens in the movie.
That's part of life too.
I mean, life is full of very complicated relationships, and it keeps you from becoming sclerotic, hardened.
It keeps you from becoming hardened and hypocritical to have radicals on both sides, to have guys like Nick Fuentes off to the side saying, well, you know, you're hiding the fact, the true facts about, you know, the way Jews and blacks are, and to have radicals on the left saying, you know, oh, it's all whiteness is the worst thing in the world.
That's not a bad thing.
It is a bad thing when the center tries to sell one form of those radical ideas to the rest of the country.
When the radicals become the mainstream, it's only going to be one side.
The country declines because radicals, by definition, oppose the very values that made them who they are, that made the country what it is.
So that's why I want to take a look at Fantastic Four, because it has this very, very strange depiction of what America might be, and in my opinion, was supposed to become after the 1960s.
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Pregnant Superhero Dilemma00:05:59
Final chapter, fantastic.
So I went to see Fantastic Four, and I have a million things to say about it.
And I can't say all of them here, but I'll say a few of them.
As you know, if you listen to the show, I don't like superhero movies.
I like a superhero movie.
If one superhero movie came out a year, I would probably go see it.
But the fact that superhero movies dominated the movie culture, I think has been infantilizing, especially to boys.
Like I've said before, I think there comes a time when boys have to put away the blankie cape and stop pretending to be superheroes and talk about being men.
And I think art should deal with the things that men have to deal with and women, grown people have to deal with.
I think you should go to the arts to expand your view of life.
And every superhero movie is the same.
And when I was 11 years old, I had a big stack of comics.
And I, man, I love those comic books.
And somewhere around 12 years old, I suddenly noticed, what are those girls?
This girl thing is kind of interesting.
And that was the end of it.
That was the end of it, because that's what adults live with.
They live with ideas like, what am I supposed to do with my sexual impulses?
What's the moral way to use that?
No set of rules has ever solved that.
Don't let anybody fool you.
When you study history and look at the way people acted in churches and in religions, there may be rules that would work if people live by them, but they don't live by them.
It's a very complicated question.
The question of, you know, how do you make a living without selling your soul?
When is it right to sell your principles to make a living?
When is it wrong?
All of these things are grown-up things that people deal with, and none of them figure in the sexless superhero comics.
I sit there and watch them, and I remember what it was like to be 11 years old, because even when I was 11, I used to say, all of these stories are kind of the same, and they all end with a big fight, and that's kind of simplistic.
Okay, but that's the way I feel about it.
It's not like I wouldn't watch a superhero movie.
I think there's just too damn many of them.
And so this movie, like all movies, stars Pedro Pascal.
People are theorizing why Pedro Pascal is in, he's in every single movie.
You can't go to a movie without seeing Pedro Pascal.
And they think, well, because he's got a trans brother, I think, and he's got all the right ideas.
He's got all the woke ideas.
No, I think it's because he looks white.
So white people won't stay away from the movie, but you can win an Oscar with him in the movie because he's Chilean.
I think that's why.
The unions have imposed what I think are illegal rules saying you can't win an Oscar if you don't have this many black people writing behind the scenes or in front of the camera or something like that.
Put Pedro Pascal in it.
But people get tired of seeing, you know, black people are what, like 14% of the country.
Not every movie, everybody wants to go to, not everyone wants to see a black lead in every movie.
So you put Pedro Pascal in it, you can get your Oscar, but he looks white.
So that's why he's there.
And by the way, it's not a hit on him.
He's a perfectly good actor, but he's in every, every single movie.
All right.
There were things in the movie, I have to say, that spoke to my heart.
It centers on mother love and the value of a baby.
And there is a scene, Storm is the lady Fantastic Four person, and she is played by Vanessa Kirby.
And there's a scene where she's pregnant and they look at the baby through her belly as you would with an ultrasound, but because it's a superhero movie and this is this kind of weird scientific wonderland, you can see the baby inside.
And that is not Vanessa Kirby's body.
That is a baby.
That is an individual person.
And you see it, and you kind of sit up because it's a baby inside a person.
It's got what we call motherhood.
It is a very specific and totally unique relationship.
And there's no way you abort that baby.
In the whole movie, it's a kind of a trolley problem movie where they have to decide whether to sacrifice the baby to save the earth or you sacrifice the earth to save the baby.
And that too, by the way, those kind of big philosophical problems are for children.
I mean, real life problems are much more complex than that.
And the whole story hinges on a mother's love.
And that's you save the world through a mother's love.
So all of that really spoke to me.
And what you're seeing, but what really got to me and what I've been sort of building the show around was the art design.
It was the design of the world in which the Fantastic Four exists.
The story is set in an imaginary America.
They give it some date, like 823 or something.
I don't even know what that means.
But it's the 1960s, which are really the 1950s, right?
It's the 1950s America, late 1950s America.
Only not.
The values are family-based, civilization-based, Western-mannered.
The men wear ties and hats, and all men should wear ties and hats.
The women wear skirts, you know, all the dresses.
And the values that are being projected by the Fantastic Four are family values.
Here they are.
Here's a short clip where they sit down to Sunday dinner before they find out that Storm is pregnant.
Who's the one who looks like a big boulder?
He's one of them.
And the other guy is the guy who lights up.
So who knows who these people are?
But here's the scene where they sit down to Sunday dinner, cut nine.
We're late for Sunday dinner.
Should we wait?
I guess.
You're late.
What do you mean?
What do you mean, what do I mean?
You're late for dinner.
Oh, yes, we are.
Really late for the moment.
Yes, we were just putting some aloe iodine.
I do his shoulder.
Why is that breakfast cereal on the dinner table?
Why are you being weird?
You're not being weird.
Well, I'm doing that weird thing with your face.
Oh, we don't know what you're talking about.
Are you pregnant?
Yeah, I'm pregnant.
Yes, yes.
I know that.
Why We Want Free Choices00:08:26
I know.
He just cannot keep his equal.
It's a family, right?
It's family values.
The pregnant sea is wonderful news.
Everybody's happy about it.
They work as a family.
They are the protectors of the world.
And so it's the 1960s.
It's basically, and all the material, it's kind of like in that movie It Follows.
The material is kind of 1960s, but a little bit off, a little bit, what's the word, super scientific and stuff.
It looks like the Jetsons more than anything else.
However, it's the 1960s, except not because it's completely integrated.
There are men and women and white people and black people together in the same places.
There are women in positions of power.
It's a world in which the inequalities, such as they are, that were real inequalities, by the way.
I grew up then.
I remember this.
It was truly unequal, especially with black people.
They've been erased.
And the thing that I was thinking as I'm watching this is that was actually the world that the radicals offered us.
Martin Luther King didn't stand up and say, give us affirmative action.
He said, I want a world in which people are judged by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin.
Women said, you know, we want to be free to make choices.
They didn't say, we never want to be homemakers and mothers.
That was not what they said.
They said, we want to be free individuals who can make choices, which are things that conservatives agree with.
But you have to remember Clavin's political rule, number one, in America, because of the domination of the left, of our means of information, the entertainment industry, our news industry, our academies, every social movement is taken over by the left, which hides its destructive purposes because the left wants to destroy the West.
It hides because it hates freedom.
It doesn't believe in freedom.
It believes in top-down governance.
It hides its destructive purposes behind the movement's original good purposes.
So the blacks say we want to participate fairly in America.
It's not fair that we can't get certain jobs.
It's not fair that we aren't allowed into places.
That's not fair.
And Americans kind of respond to that.
They were resistant, but a lot of Americans were saying, yeah, that's kind of our values.
That is American values.
We've got to kind of respond to that.
But the left slowly takes that over.
So it's first, well, it's not fair because they've suffered in the past.
So in order to make that up, we need affirmative action.
Well, that's not fair because affirmative action isn't working.
So we need to actually withhold things from white people.
Well, that's not working.
So we have to hate whites.
We have to diss them.
We have to basically blame them for everything.
And the left turns every constructive movement into the opposite of itself.
They start out, we want to get rid of racism so everything's fair.
And everybody goes, yeah, that sounds good.
And it ends up like, no, we just want to be racist against the other people.
Your racism against blacks.
We want to replace that with racism against whites.
We want to get rid of Christianity, the feminism.
Women should have full human rights.
Yes, but then they only are worthwhile if they act like men.
And since men are better at being men than women are, then men can be women.
And that'll be just as good.
And it always becomes the opposite, where the women actually are now disadvantages, disadvantaged by men dressed up in skirts.
What Fantastic Four is showing you is what we were promised, is what they promised us.
They promised us, just let us in, just let us in, and then we will become part of the civilization, and that will be fair.
The left has used race and sex to cover up bad behavior and bad beliefs.
I was talking about in England where they're trying to silence people because people are going to say, we don't want these Muslims here.
They don't like it here.
They come here and then they want to transform it into the places that they came from.
They should leave.
They shouldn't be allowed.
Obviously, this isn't every Muslim, but it is a goodly portion of them.
They are raping women.
They are causing riots.
They're doing bad things.
Make them go.
And so what they're going to do is they're going to silence them and tell them that they're racist.
But Islam is not a race.
It's not a race that makes people rape people.
That's not the way it is.
It's ideas that do that.
And you are allowed to say that idea is hateful.
The left says it all the time.
And we're allowed to argue that out.
And you should never be able to censor anybody who is arguing about ideas and defending one set of good ideas against another.
This is what I mean when I talk about hierarchy and grace.
I believe that there are good rules for a thriving, free society.
I believe that you should privilege male and female marriage.
I believe that that is the center of all human life.
And it is the best way to keep women from being abused by men is to have them married to somebody who has responsibilities to them, has responsibilities to take care of them.
I believe that women should bring some of their abilities to nurture and homemake and take care of children into that relationship so the man is getting something for his investment of his sexual time and energy.
I believe that we should keep the values and customs that brought us where we are.
And if you want to say those are white values or British values or whatever you want to say, fine.
That was the amazing thing about the Fantastic Four is that the people are wearing 50s uniform, 50s, 60s uniform, the hat, and the ties and all this stuff.
And now you sell us, well, that's white culture.
No, it's the culture that brought us here.
I believe we should privilege the culture that brought us here.
But that doesn't mean just because you privilege male-female marriage does not mean you have to torment gay people like Socrates.
You don't have to give Socrates hemlock.
You listen to Socrates, let him have his say.
Just because it is a Christian-based country, you don't have to be cruel to Jews like Jesus.
You want to listen to Jesus because they sometimes say things.
The radicals, the outsiders, sometimes say things that are true.
This is true on both sides, left and right.
The radicals say something that is true, and you can take that from them and improve your society, but you do not let them take over the means of information, which is what has happened to us here.
That is how we lost everything.
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It's the truth that makes you free.
It is the truth that makes you free.
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We have to be afraid of the sinful human heart.
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From David, I was surprised to see a ton of hate online for your nice comments about the late pastor John MacArthur.
You'd think you had accused him of eating with tax collectors and sinners or something.
Please remember that for every one person who got mad that you said he was kind to a gay person, your story made him more likable to three normal people from David.
Thank you, David.
You know, it's disgusting.
I'm disgusted by it.
And what I'm really disgusted is that they lie about what I said.
They lie and say, oh, you said that, you know, John MacArthur was in favor of homosexuality.
They just lie.
And it's amazing.
They put the video of me saying John MacArthur and I had very different opinions and approaches to homosexuality.
They put it up there, but they know that people are so full of hate that they won't look at the video, so they can just lie.
And then if they entice me to come on and say you're lying, then they have a way of sort of getting at me.
But if they, if you, here's the thing, you can read the gospel different ways.
Many people read the gospel different ways.
But if reading the gospel turns you into an evil little schmuck, then you're reading it wrong.
I'm not a pastor.
I'm not a theologian.
I try not to preach doctrine to people.
But if you read the God, you remember Satan quotes the gospel, quotes the Bible too.
So if you're quoting the Bible and you've become an evil little vicious schmuck who's lying about people and attacking people, that's on you.
That's not on Christ.
That's not on God.
From Matthew.
So thank you for saying that.
They were awful.
Yeah.
Matthew says, it's been a pleasure to listen to you for several years now.
I always appreciate your wisdom.
I have a question for you pertaining to the Epstein situation.
I'm a Christian and American who believes Israel is God's chosen people and America is the greatest nation on earth.
However, as I've delved deeper into this Epstein thing, I'm beginning to think that there is a real possibility that this wicked pedophile was an agent from Assad, the CIA, or both.
If it's true that the intelligence organizations for these nations were complicit in child sex trafficking ring, can it really truly be said that we are the beacon of goodness in the world?
I await your incredible words of wisdom, Matthew.
Yeah, I suspect that it's not true, actually, but it is possible that they used him from time to time.
I don't know.
I think the important thing is we really don't know.
And until we get more information, we won't know.
And I think it's more important to admit you don't know.
I've seen all the stuff that you've seen.
I haven't been convinced.
You know, it would be really strange if they were running, helping him run his pedophile operation.
It might not be strange if now and then they said, Oh, this guy, you've compromised this guy, or we want the pictures or something like that.
But I don't even know that.
I do not know that.
I want that information, and I think we deserve it.
But I think you should hold fire before you make your judgments because I just don't think we have the information.
We have a lot of suggestive stuff instead.
Jared says, I appreciate how you challenge my perspective on politics through a Christian lens.
I don't agree with all things.
The nuggets of perspective you put out make me want to dig in deeper into my faith.
You have said this multiple times that you believe some people are born gay and that they're just not looking at the right genes, that they need to look at the mother because there's something that happens in the womb with those without prying too personally.
Why do you say that?
Yeah, it's not personal at all.
First of all, it's strange that people who normally don't reproduce should continue to reproduce, produce gay people at the same, basically the same rate as forever, about 5% of people.
They've done vast studies and have never found a genetic trait in gay people themselves.
That doesn't mean they won't find it, that we don't know that much about genetics as much as people think we do.
So that's another thing about it.
And I've noticed that they run in the female line of families.
I've just seen it many times because I'm an artist.
I've worked with a lot of gay people.
I've seen that the mother's side of the family produces it again and again, and that just solves the problem for it.
May not be true.
It's not a personal thing, it's just a guess.
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