#1112: January 25, 2026 dissects Alex Jones’ reaction to ICE agents shooting a legally armed protester in Minneapolis—10 bullets fired after he was disarmed—while Jones blames Democrats for orchestrating violence via the debunked "Podesta plan." His strained arguments twist Second Amendment absolutism into justification for state brutality, ignoring past ICE atrocities like a pregnant woman’s killing. Jones also falsely claims journalists and Soros-linked groups conspire to harass ICE agents, despite activists merely coordinating protests. The episode reveals his selective outrage: protesters opposing Trump face no rights, while his allies’ violence is framed as self-defense. His hypocrisy exposes gun-rights rhetoric as a tool for political cover, not principle. [Automatically generated summary]
I would appreciate one situation at the end where it is like, hey, kid, I hate to do this for you, but the systemic and structural problems are something that I really can't alter whatsoever.
So, Jordan, on Saturday, federal agents killed another citizen in Minneapolis.
The previous incident involved a person driving a car who'd been presumably blocking traffic before being confronted by agents.
It was an awful shooting, but the surrounding details of it allowed just enough wiggle room for state media surrogates like Alex to pretend that the agent was in fear for his life and the killing was justified.
People whose careers rely on them pretending to be opposed to police brutality, like Alex, were able to continue their charade, taking up the position that the police shouldn't kill people.
But what do you expect when someone's driving a car at you?
Through their arguments, they were insincere and they were based in lies, but they were still able to keep that illusion going throughout this coverage of that shooting.
But Saturday's shooting was entirely different.
I don't think it's a stretch that people online have called it an execution.
The victim was legally recording law enforcement, got assaulted by federal agents, then was taken to the ground and disarmed, after which point he was shot repeatedly.
You can make out 10 shots fired in the video of the murder, and none of it can be justified.
The best argument someone can really make is that one of the officers misunderstood the victim's gun being confiscated as the gun being wielded, but even this argument fails.
It's the most generous interpretation of the event possible, and if that is the case, then the agents who fired need to be fired and possibly charged with crimes.
The chain of command has to be examined because this level of undisciplined violence is at least partially the product of bad leadership.
And pretending otherwise is just not possible.
Again, like the last time, I'm not interested in arguing about this, and I don't take anyone who would support this seriously.
They're not sincere participants in a debate.
They're malicious or misguided agents of state power.
Full stop.
What makes this murder different from the last one is that the only way that the right-wing media has been able to justify the shooting this time involves the victim legally carrying a gun at the protest.
Whether or not you can drive a car somewhere isn't a central issue for one political party, but whether or not you should be able to have a gun at all times is.
The Second Amendment is central for the modern right-wing, and a part of it is a full destigmatization of carrying a gun.
Not only is it okay for you to carry a gun at a protest, it's wrong for anyone to act as if it's not.
If you feel weird about me carrying a gun, that's your problem.
Brandishing a gun and threatening someone with one is an act that could lead to you getting shot.
But it's been a critical part of the right-wing project to stress the difference between carrying a gun and brandishing a gun.
But now, the only way to justify this shooting in any way is to stress that the victim had a gun.
We've often asked ourselves how sincere Alex's Second Amendment beliefs are, and I guess we're going to find out.
You cannot have a philosophical belief in the individual right to own and bear arms and say something like that.
The fact that Alex can engage with a story like this reveals that even his belief in the Second Amendment is bullshit.
The issue that this highlights is that fundamentally, Alex's beliefs have always been surface-level shit.
His dad fucked his head up with all this John Birch Society stuff when he was a kid, and he's gone on to base most of his life around one of the stupidest books ever written.
None dare call it conspiracy.
As his career has progressed, he's just been used by a bunch of attention-seeking dipshit opportunists, and a lot of those old standard anti-communist right-wing beliefs have gotten eroded by hot internet trends and dumb bullshit he sees on social media.
But none of it really matters to him.
He didn't understand or care about the principle of gun ownership and what it means to believe strongly in a right to carry.
He just knew all the language.
He memorized the catchphrases and talking points of the extreme right, and he hung out with fanatics like Larry Pratt, and that was good enough.
He was a Second Amendment guy because he acted like one, and that's all that mattered.
In the present day, Alex is doing what he's doing partly because he's been entirely seduced and captured by feeling like he's close to actual state power, but also partly because he doesn't understand the ideas he talks about on his show in any depth.
He can say the words and do the performance about how gun rights are sacred when there's a mass shooting, and he needs to argue against gun registration, but he doesn't care about this shit as much as he pretends to, and it's obvious in a moment like this.
You can't say that this isn't a homicide because the guy had a gun.
Now that CNN got footage from a lady that I guess didn't post it online, but gave it to CNN this morning.
It's hits HD, and you can see it all happen.
So they're all hustling around with him, dogpiling him.
Doesn't look like he's resisting some.
And then you see the officer behind him say gun and grabs the gun out from the small of his back, you know, they're tucked to his belt, the small of his back.
And then when you watch the footage, you can see that what looks like a tear gas, not a tear gas, pepper spray, big bottle falls from one of the scuffling ICE officers.
The man's cell phone and a clip bounces out.
In fact, the clip had already bounced out about two seconds before.
And so they think that's the gun, but it's already hurt gun.
And when they hear gun, which way has a gun, that means either they've gotten the gun, which they didn't know, at least heard gun.
It means you can have another gun.
So they draw, they all draw, they all back up and draw.
And then that stuff starts bouncing around, and they think it's a gun because the guy starts getting up on his knees as all this stuff bounces out.
And in the stressful moment, they killed him.
And I think the guy was innocent.
I'm sorry that he's dead.
But those are those really high-stick situations where they're carrying out with their administrative warrants, with their court orders, out there doing that, and everybody's really on edge.
Alex is in really choppy water here because he's trying to slow play this.
He knows his career and audience are based in gun rights absolutism.
So they aren't going to love the argument that this guy deserved to be killed because he had a gun that he was carrying legally.
Simultaneously, all of the people that Alex likes in government are tripping over their own feet to smear the victim as a terrorist.
Stephen Miller posted this to describe the situation.
Quote, a would-be assassin tried to murder federal law enforcement.
Assistant Homeland Security Secretariat Tricia McLaughlin used the fact that the victim had a gun to assert, quote, this looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement.
Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noam said, quote, fearing for his life and the lives of his fellow officers around him, an agent fired defensive shots.
This looks like a situation where an individual arrived at the scene to inflict maximum damage on individuals and kill law enforcement.
Alex's own employee and dipshit friend, Nick Sortor, incorrectly identified the victim as an illegal alien and said he was, quote, armed with a gun and attempted to pull it on agents as he was being apprehended.
This is an information war, and Alex's side has made it very clear what their narrative is supposed to be here.
It's now his choice to eat this shit like his job requires or have a backbone and call the government and his own employee gun grabbers.
Those are the only two options.
And he's trying to slow play somewhere in the middle and it looks stupid.
So Alex has given in to fear and now no longer believes that citizens should express their God-given right to carry a gun because it's too likely to make federal agents see you as a target and they'll probably kill you.
If federal agents think you're a target because you're exercising your rights, then your rights are under attack.
And Alex fucking knows that.
His career is based on seeing a situation like this and saying that people should walk around with more guns.
His beliefs are based on not changing how you exercise your rights because the state tells you to.
When there's a conflict between your rights and what the state asks of you, you're in a tyranny.
I think it's also important to stress that Alex understands that what he's saying is a betrayal of his gun rights position.
And that's why he's doing this so softly.
He's trying to mask the point of what he's saying behind this facade of empathy and like, oh my God, isn't this such a tragedy?
I mean, the funny part about it, the irony of it, is hearing it out of his mouth makes it so clear that everybody who's ever been like, I'm all for the Second Amendment, is full of shit.
I mean, yeah, it is like this guy has set himself up, has talked such a big game to find his moment where he is probably positioned to lead a lot of people with a lot of dangerous ideas to do some good.
And yet, somehow, here we are with him supporting the fucking Nazis.
I think that Alex believes that he seems empathetic when he's trying to do this.
I feel bad for the victim's family stuff, but it makes him come off worse.
Gun rights is a cold-hearted business for Alex.
Defending your right to defend yourself has meant that he's had to do some horrible shit in public and re-victimize a ton of grieving people.
He's had to defame and disparage people who are just living their lives before tragedy struck.
And sure, it comes off bad to treat people like that, but it was what Alex had to do to make sure that the gun grabbers didn't grab your guns.
If Soros lawyers and judges are the only ones who are going to try to indict these agents for murdering a citizen just because he had a gun, and that's not going to work, then doesn't it kind of seem like federal agents could just kill anyone they see with a gun?
If what Alex is saying is taken seriously, then you don't have a right to carry a gun.
Your God-given Second Amendment rights are conditional, and you can only exercise them when the government tells you that you can.
And they don't even need to tell you you can or can't.
If the more important things to him were catered to, which are his feelings of white identity, his Wantant desire to oppress the LGBTQ community, kicking out immigrants.
Like, if those things were catered to, he never would have felt the need to protect himself from an oppressive government.
No, the honest thing is, the honest truth of Alex right now is that if he had any integrity, whenever he realized this is the government's line, he should have fucking lit himself on fire outside of his studio.
Like, that is that's the level of protest he should be killing himself right now.
Like, that is what should be happening.
Because that's your choice.
Your choice is either to die in one way or die in another.
I can die in real life and not have to fucking suck the feet of goddamn Donald Trump anymore, or I can kill myself in another way and say, This is fine.
Alex straight up said that until the night before this, January 24th, he hadn't even seen one battle after another.
All the shit that he's made up about it and how it's a podesta plan, all of that came from a guy who had only seen the trailer and heard his racist friends on Twitter complain about the trailer.
I think that that's something that we've identified over and over again: Alex exists in a petulant state of oppositional defiance.
He can only be understood and understand himself through what he is to his imagined enemy.
And like, that's kind of sad.
And when it's like the enemy is revealing their plans to me through movies and you don't even watch the movies, you don't even take your own psychosis seriously.
Yeah, if the Joker just had like a sustainable theft model of like mid-tier banks from city to city, never staying anywhere too long, you know, not really causing chaos so much as living fine.
But again, my prayers go out to ICE, the American people, and to this fellow's family.
And the left saying go out there with guns, and then the stuff starts happening in confusion.
Clearly, they didn't want to kill him.
They didn't want the paperworker to go to prison or to face all this.
But they're going to do what they're doing.
And they are sworn law enforcement and they are trained.
Most of them are former cops or military or both.
And again, I'm surprised at how professional they've been so far because these are dangerous situations they're in.
Even before this guy got killed, you're saying they're throwing giant chunks of ice at him and bricks at him and, you know, just everything else because they just scream, Nazi, have you died, die, die?
It's just like, and then they lied about that kid, you know, that five-year-old at the school.
The dad runs.
Little kid's standing there.
So they just say, well, here, let's lead you inside.
And then that's the truth.
But it doesn't matter.
It's always just some new hyped up hysteria, some new craziness.
At the end of the day, they're the ones that created the crisis.
They're the ones that told the illegals to come up here.
I get that Alex is peddling around a lot of bullshit about how everything is the globalists' fault, but let's just cut through all of that.
Because the globalists have done all the things that they've done over the last few decades.
Alex does not believe that you have a Second Amendment right anymore.
Because he likes what ICE is doing and because he feels like they hurt the right people, they should have no punishment for killing you because you're legally carrying a gun in public.
All the shit that he's doing, all of these like touch points he's trying to make, all of it is a distraction from the main point of this video, which is that the state can kill you for having a gun now.
Attempts to punish federal agents for killing someone for having a gun, that's just Soros judges trying to meddle with Trump's agenda for success.
Two of them shoot in to the man on the ground, Alex Pere, who's now dead, and we're sad for him and his family.
So that's the reality of what's happened here.
But when you say that there's no borders, when you say get out of the city, these are sanctuary cities, even for hardened criminals, it creates constitutional crisis, and Trump is not going to back down.
So they've created this crisis.
They cooperate with ICE, but no, they want illegals to be part of the new census, 18 new seats for the Democrats already.
They want them to vote in elections.
They admit all that now.
And this is about breaking the country.
If the Democrats can hold the cities hostage, they control almost every one of them through election fraud.
So to translate that, if Alex has seen a couple of movies he doesn't understand and he feels like some protesters are yelling some stuff he doesn't like, then the Bill Of Rights doesn't exist anymore.
I think it may be an overly simple way of putting things, but Alex just doesn't believe in universal rights.
He may believe that rights are endowed by the creator, but he doesn't think that everyone was created equal with the same freedom to pursue happiness.
And until he gets real about that, this shit is stupid.
Yeah, like he doesn't think that some people have rights.
Yeah yeah, he can act like he's a second amendment guy, but it's just like some people don't have that right.
Yeah, I mean, it's universal, except that I I find it uh, you know, it's like a degree for me, like the every headline that I saw that was like Ice shoots and kills U.s citizen are such like I don't even know if they realize that they're implying that it would be totally fine if they'd killed a Non-U.S.
Citizen or a person who was illegal or a person who was not supposed to be there, or blankety Blank.
That implies that it would have been different as opposed to, hey, ICE can't kill anybody.
And I realize that part of the reason, for me, at least, in the framing of how I'm talking about this, is because I meet Alex at least partially where he is.
Sure.
So for him, the fact that this is a citizen matters a lot.
But yeah, it is very much like the addition of that detail is meant to assuage, like, well, I mean, now that we've added this accuracy, we don't have to then go retroactively say, let's go look and see how many people ICE is murdering.
How many people is ICE murdering?
Why don't we know how many people ICE is murdering?
Because if we have to acknowledge that one of them is a U.S. citizen, doesn't that imply that there's a bunch that I haven't heard about who weren't U.S. citizens?
We don't know that, but it doesn't strike confidence that this is like a, oh my God, what the fuck kind of situation when the behavior is like you're describing.
One other key point in the Podesta plan that they're following.
They want to build public support for the blue cities and states to break away and have a secession and literally lead local police and governments against the federal forces.
That's in the Podesta plan.
That's in the Civil War movie.
And that's now what the police chief, the mayor Fry, the governor are talking about by saying what ICE is doing is illegal, which it's not in its main actions.
It delegitimizes them in the eyes of much of the public that are ignorant.
And that creates the schism as the pretext for the civil war and the secession that's in the plan.
So let's say that the Podesta plan does involve trying to delegitimize ICE.
According to the way Alex is applying that piece of information, that means that no criticism of ICE can ever be taken as valid because to accept that some delegitimizing piece of information about ICE is true would be in effect part of the Podesta plan working.
If the Podesta Plan requires the delegitimization of ICE, then the best way to fight it involves supporting ICE at all costs.
Everything that ICE does will be justifiable this way.
And God forbid there ever end up being like a mass casualty event surrounding ICE.
Alex could just pivot to saying it was a false flag being done by the globalists to make ICE look bad.
It's all perfect.
He has a system in place where no state atrocity could be taken seriously and where the Trump administration can get away with anything.
And if you're a long-time listener of this show and check out what I claim, you know what's going on.
The Democrat Party has an official plan called the Podesta Plan that is built around if Trump ever got back in office and deployed ICE like presidents have done in the 23-year history of ICE, then they will have their mobs attack ICE.
And then when ICE then defends themselves, at some point, there's going to be some dead people on both sides.
And then they build Trump as a dictator and use that as a pretext to have the blue states go into open rebellion and start seceding.
Now, that's an official Democrat Party plan.
I made a big deal about it since they first said in August of 2020, if he wins and we can't steal it, we're going to do that.
I'm reflecting on myself and the journey that I've taken through life.
And this has given me a moment of gratitude because I've realized something.
I've done a lot of drinking in a lot of public places.
And it is by the grace of God that I did not run into somebody saying shit like this at the wrong time.
You know, like, I have not been to jail.
That's crazy.
Because if at any point in time I was less in control and there was somebody saying shit like this after God knows how many atrocities we've lived through.
Yeah, I guess the circumstances are always going to be hard to like recreate at different times in the past.
But like, how many times did somebody probably say something to you that like you might want to swing at them, but you just didn't know what the words meant?
My job is really easy because we have the enemy's own plans.
But it's also hard because I've been hammering this and hammering this.
And we're just now seeing the White House and people get it and talk about it.
But if you just look at the tragedies that happen here and there that are caused by them triggering all this, and if you only focus on those and debate individual events, you're down on their level where they want you to be.
Instead of going, look, they said they would do this.
They're the ones foaming.
So you have his latest guy shot.
And we now have the details on that.
What really happened?
We'll be getting into it.
Because better up close footage has been released.
But when you pull back from it, this is exactly what they want.
Alex says a pretty solid strategy to distract people from situations that are really bad for his narrative, which involves fluctuating between whether or not specific details matter.
In a case like this, where the situation is indefensible, Alex knows he's going to lose an argument trying to say that the federal agents were right to shoot the guy and that it would look bad, even if he tried to mount that argument.
That's the conclusion he's supposed to get his listeners to accept.
And his job is to pacify them in situations like this.
But the approach of looking at the details of the shooting and defending them is a bad way to do it.
Instead, he's able to lead them down the path of not caring about the shooting by demanding that they zoom out and see the big picture.
Sure, if you focus on the specific incident, you're going to get mad at ICE.
And you're going to see it's a police state kind of shit that's completely out of control.
But that's what the globalists want you to do.
They've brought in all these immigrants and had their paid provocateurs yell mean things at ICE so it would lead to a moment with optics like this.
Also, they could trick you into being mad at ICE because you were so set on missing the forest for the trees, you fool.
If you watch enough of his show, you'll notice that this is a strategy that works both directions.
When the big picture of something looks really bad for Alex, he demands that the most important thing is focusing on really minute details.
Take, for example, the whole Sandy Hook thing.
His arguments were incredibly stupid there, but he was able to keep the audience from recognizing that by insisting that they need to just focus on these anomalies that he got from people like Wolfgang Halbig and Jim Fetzer.
In that case, you were supposed to be as lost in the weeds as possible because Alex knew you would lose the big picture game.
The big picture was that gun proliferation in the United States had gotten to the point where children might not be safe going to school, and that was the result of policy choices that we had made and could choose differently about.
This was the argument Alex needed to avoid.
So instead of demanding that the audience see the big picture about this, it all got very granular.
And this is a rhetorical tactic that manipulative liars use, and it's what he's doing.
You have Senator Chris Murphy, one of the most evil senators in Congress out of Connecticut, and others saying Trump is planning to cancel the 2026 election.
You're not even speculating.
It's a fact.
If he wins, he's stolen it.
Well, he says last week he said he's going to cancel them.
Now he says he's going to steal them.
Now, remember, they indicted Trump for saying that 2020 was stolen from him, but he had evidence.
And Jack Smith just testified to Congress about that this week.
He's saying that all these folks like Chris Murphy are saying that Trump is going to try to have another term as president.
And Alex is acting like this is an accusation that's coming out of thin air.
These folks were only discussing the idea of Trump running again and violating the Constitution because Trump tweeted, quote, this is all caps, record numbers all over the place.
Should I try for a fourth term?
A lot of Alex's show can be deconstructed like this.
Step one, Trump does or says something completely insane and inflammatory.
Step two, someone else responds to Trump's inflammatory shit by saying something like, he shouldn't do this.
Step three, Alex reports on the response without ever actually dealing with the inflammatory thing Trump did that started it.
And he's pretending that all this is coming out of nowhere.
Maybe if the Democrats win the midterms and then immediately 25th Amendment him with like cops and shit arresting him and like putting him on a boat that goes into the middle of the Atlantic Ocean and then nobody can ever find it again.
And I'm sorry, you can be president if you get back.
You can be president if you get back, but you start in the middle of the ocean.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's get into it right now.
We have incredible discoveries that I spent hours today researching.
Unbelievable.
Journalists were able to infiltrate the signal chat app used by the Democrats in Minnesota and via that into California, Illinois, you name it.
And it is state senators, state reps, high-level staffers of walls commanding people to harass and attack ICE and stalk them and dox them and foment all this.
Now, we already knew that was going on, but here is confirmation.
Unbelievable.
And in the signal chat apps feeds are hundreds of videos of, well, I could call them as communists running these operations.
So there's your racketeering right there.
It's one thing to say we're not going to aid federal agents following the Constitution with court orders and warrants.
That's just obstruction of justice.
But when you're out there cornerbacking, working with thousands of people and working with NGOs, it is a conspiracy.
It is racketeering.
So I could do the whole four hours tonight on that.
Okay.
Just that.
Incredible.
Because they upload videos of themselves doing it and the meetings they have and in the field and stalking, harassing innocent people, demanding citizens' papers.
I mean, it's everything they claim ICE is doing, they're doing it with no legal authority.
So it's pretty shitty that Alex is teeing off on this story and he's not crediting online dipshit Cam Higbee for doing the legwork of hanging out in a bunch of signal chats and taking screenshots.
Alex is making up a ton of new details and embellishing this story out, but he's basing all of this on the supposed investigation someone else carried out.
This is an almost perfect InfoWars primary source.
It's not really all that scandalous, and no one's going to read the stuff that was posted, but the fact that it exists is enough to use as a base upon which you can build whatever you want.
Protest signal groups were infiltrated by a social media dipshit, so now because that premise is true, you can do whatever the fuck you want with it.
Man, I do like how this is like, not only am I going to ignore the thing that is basically the death knell of any concept of principles, but I'm also going to talk about this extremely low stakes dumbness.
So the victim didn't bring a gun and decide to get involved in a riot.
He went to a protest and legally carried a weapon.
Something Alex believes is him exercising his first and second amendment rights.
Understood correctly, Alex is trying to argue that it's too dangerous and tantamount to suicide to exercise your rights if you're opposing Trump's government.
They will kill you if they feel threatened, and no courts are going to do anything about it.
Alex believing that militarized police were willing to kill protesters and dissenters, that's nothing new.
That's been a feature of his content forever.
But it's important to recognize that he's not on the people's side anymore.
If federal agents kill you because they were scared of how you were exercising your rights, well, that's a shame and you seem like a nice guy, but what do you expect to happen?
If you're saying like, hey, if the government, if you bring a gun to a protest, then it's fine for the government to murder you, then you're saying don't bring a gun to a protest.
Or if you are bringing a gun to a protest, be aware that it is now a firefight.
Yeah, I think a lot of those right-wing audiences that have been radicalized by his actions and people like his actions, I think a lot of them would see this kind of behavior as like, all right, man, you are a betrayer.
All that stuff Alex is saying in that clip is a lie.
Five-year-old Liam Ramos was taken by ICE and the Border Patrol in the front yard of his home.
Witnesses on the scene have said that it was clear that they were trying to hold this child to lure his mother out of her home so they could snatch her up too because they didn't have the ability to enter the house.
The mother refused to come outside, so her child was taken and brought to a detention center where his father was already being held.
His father was a legal resident of the United States, having applied for asylum in 2024 after leaving Ecuador and following the steps that are required to go through for that process.
He does not have a long criminal rap sheet, and in fact, CNN was unable to find any criminal record for the father, either in the United States or in Ecuador.
Alex is lying about this case because it's indefensible.
Either ICE is disciplined and they're actually out hunting down super criminal targets, or they're randomly picking up people they suspect might be in the country illegally in a big drag net.
If they're rounding up large groups from the Home Depot, then their operations are not targeted.
Alex understands the difference, and he doesn't care.
Yeah, they had a million people protesting up there this weekend and one guy with a gun and he gets tackled and then there's stuff flying around and things falling out and clips on the ground and gun, gun, gun.
And in hysteria, he is shot.
Yeah.
Don't play in traffic.
Saddie's dead.
But the point is, they created the chaos and said they're going to create the chaos to get this done.
So they started it.
It's their plan to do this.
They're the bad guys.
Again, ICE is 10,000 enforcers on the enforcement side against 40 million illegals.
I'm surprised under the incredible pressure they're in that they haven't had more mistakes, you could say.
But it wasn't intentional.
And he came to that event and he was armed.
And that's what happens.
So they will not be convicted.
Believe me, they're not happy about that.
They're going to have to get lawyers.
They're going to get sued.
They're going to get docs.
They're trying to not do that.
But they're like, gun, gun, gun.
He had a gun.
A bunch of stuff falls out on the ground.
They think it's a gun.
Boom, They're highly trained, folks.
These are almost all former police and military.
They're not hiring wimps, as you can see.
But they're also not playing around, folks.
They're out there being screamed at and attacked all day long, surrounded.
And then you want to go insert yourself in the middle of it.
You're asking for it, folks.
It'd be like if it was a 50-mile an hour, 100-mile-an-hour windstorm, and I went up to Mount Bonnell in Austin, the highest point, and stood on the edge of a cliff, and then I get blown off the cliff, and I'm like, oh, my God, I'm going to die.
Yeah, I mean, you don't get in high wind and stay on the edge of a freaking cliff.
So it's important to understand the conceptual framework Alex is operating in here.
This guy who federal agents killed has to be blamed for his own death because every other conclusion requires you to re-examine whether or not ICE should be operating how they do.
And Alex, if he teases that threat out, has to become an enemy of the state.
The only thing that makes his death in any way debatable is the fact that he had a gun on him.
That doesn't make the shooting justified, but it's the big what about that the Trump media has chosen to latch on to, as seen by so many members of the administration and other media figures.
It's the variable that makes this an unfortunate accident instead of a murder.
So a guy with a gun at a protest is to blame for their own death if the feds kill him.
That's the standard that we're starting with.
But right off the bat, it's clear that Alex wouldn't defend that.
He's loved gun-toting protesters in the past.
Multiple times.
He's had guests on his show only because they were on local TV carrying big guns at protests against Obama.
From that, we learn that it can't just be the act of carrying a gun at a protest that Alex feels is like playing in traffic, where if you do it, you're to blame for your own death.
That means we need to figure out what the variables are here that make it okay.
It seems like the next meaningful factor Alex goes into is that the Democrats and globalists have raised the temperature and created a dangerous environment.
So, if one side is escalating and creating social unrest, then it's okay for the feds to kill you if you're at a protest with a gun.
But this can't be Alex's position either, because he was very aggressive about supporting the heavily armed trucker protests during COVID.
They were creating a very heightened, dangerous environment, and tons of them were openly carrying guns.
Certainly, Alex wouldn't just shake his head and say, oh, what a shame if one of those protesters, one of those people, was killed because the feds got scared.
The next thing Alex seems to bring up is that there were people yelling, and this guy got killed.
He put himself in the center of things.
This one is the easiest variable to dismiss because that's just a guy exercising his First Amendment rights.
So Alex can't possibly think that that's what justifies his death.
So after we take in the rationalizations that Alex has to offer, we don't really come away with any clarity.
We hope for some kind of actual explanation for why this situation is different, why this is an instance of the feds killing a citizen that's okay for Alex, whereas in the past, that would have marked the beginning of 1776 part 2.
And the unfortunate truth that you have to come to is that the joke is on us for imagining that there's a depth to the question at all.
We demand a depth because the clown made us think that.
But the truth is, Alex just doesn't believe the people who disagree with him deserve rights.
The Podesta plan is to use this to trigger a civil war.
We have them.
So yeah, I'll individually get on ISAS when somebody makes a mistake or does something wrong, but they are responding to the takeover.
They are the literal front line in the attempt to take down of this country.
Look at the thankless job, the David versus Goliath job.
Look at the attacks.
Yeah, they're warriors.
They're heroes.
And some listeners want to say, oh my God, you're sucking the weenie of the police state.
No, I'm not.
The police state is the Democrats and the left and them wanting to take our kids and brainwashes and take our speech.
When you have illegal aliens run by the Democratic Party committing mass crimes and the left telling their people go out and riot.
And we've still got men and women willing to go out there and face this attack to do their job against child molesters, arsonists, murderers, bank robbers, carjackers on the streets.
Let me tell you, I wouldn't take Ice's job because I'm going to tell you right now.
Somebody starts spitting in my face, hits me in the head with a big old piece of ice, I go crazy.
Somebody rams my car, I wouldn't be as controlled as they are.