In this installment, Dan and Jordan tune in to hear Alex endorsing regime change, getting annoyed at longtime callers, and making a critical error in who he thinks is the Robin to his Batman.
My bright spot, I think, is since we already know where your bright spot's headed, for the both of us, I will choose our amazing live shows in Portland.
And but I'll say that my bright spot, my bright bright spot is this.
Not to put the venue's business out there, but in times many venues have had to deal with frustrating audience members who are causing problems, right?
So they got security and they got all this stuff.
And they had asked us whether or not we needed anything.
And I told the guys before the show even started, you won't need to worry about our audience, right?
Just looking out, seeing all the people wander in, and an independent security guy, and like just out of nowhere, pops up and he's like, I got to say, your audience is the nicest group of people we have had in here in I don't know how long.
And I just noticed as we were going live, he was talking about how great the economy is and cheerleading American business, which is important to get foreign investment into the country.
But for the average American, he told them, oh, I'll be able to cut inflation back overnight.
And I said, that's a campaign promise.
He's not going to be able to do that very quickly.
They can slow it and get a lot of new jobs and get payup, which will balance out, which is the policy.
Cool policy or stagflation, depression with inflation, which is the great reset, which is what the globalists want.
So instead of explaining that to people, he just gets up and says, we have the best economy ever, best economy in the world.
So Alex's take on Trump here is that he's trying to court foreign investment by lying to and gaslighting the American public into thinking that the economy is better than it is.
Further, Alex is clearly accepting that Trump rose to power by making cynical false promises about how he could fix the issues that impact the public, just like every other politician in history.
Alex didn't say that the fixing inflation was a campaign promise.
It sounds to me like Alex is describing an elitist liar who wants to use the power of the state to enrich multinational corporations while ignoring the economic factors that hurt everyday people.
Sure.
Which is not surprising for Trump, unless you believed that the version Alex is pretended exists is real.
If you cut through all the bullshit, what Alex is saying is that the base is sick of Trump lying to their face about things that they're personally experiencing.
He can crow about how great the economy is, but they're buying pizzas with less toppings on them.
So what if some American billionaires are getting richer?
The reality of Trump's gold toilet and fraud lifestyle is finally catching up to the folks who have been forced to pretend that his political beliefs were ones that helped the working person.
The populist illusion is becoming impossible for the base to accept.
And that's a huge problem for Alex.
In order to keep supporting him as a media surrogate, Alex needs Trump to tone down the pompous narcissism and act more like a normal president.
But Trump never was that and was never going to be.
It's stuff like this, where Alex is thinking he can just yell at Trump and he'll course correct that make me suspect that Alex didn't fully understand the game he was playing with Trump and Roger.
I wouldn't be too surprised if Alex thought they were going to do all the chaotic stuff and it would be an elaborate strategy to facilitate the white identity takeover of the government and that they would start operating efficiently and smoothly once that takeover had happened.
I mean, I don't know how better to describe like or how better to elucidate how bad an idea it is to just like trigger the libs as a political ideology other than to say, look, this is what happens when you're triggering is your entire political ideology.
Yeah, and I think that if someone on the left like had no, like not a lot or maybe no substance past like, fuck, the right-wingers are pissed at this guy.
What value does that have?
I don't think, I really don't think you'd get a lot of traction.
Nick Fuentez, very controversial individual, will be joining me in the third and fourth hour today to discuss and debate different world events and how he sees the midterms coming up.
His analysis of the Trump administration, his take on the fact that Israel and its undue influence in the United States is now one of the major front-burner issues we will talk about a lot with Nick coming up in the third and fourth hour.
And you saw the big controversy when Tucker a month ago interviewed him and folks trying to cancel Tucker.
You can't have the left saying Christians, Catholics, and whites are inherently evil and bad.
And I've got big compilations here of that.
You've all seen it everywhere.
And then when somebody turns around and says, fine, I'll be race-based back against you, and then say they're the devil.
It is the globalists, it is the universities, it is the left that pray to this climate.
And Nick Fuentez is mild compared to where a lot of people are going.
So Tucker Carlson was, until recently, the highest watched and paid anchor on Fox News.
He's someone with a decades spanning career in mainstream broadcast journalism, and he's friends with the president as well as most of the administration.
He gives keynote speeches at turning point events in front of arenas and recently held a tour of his own events where he interviewed thought leaders of the extreme right wing like Russell Brand, Alex himself, and Trump's son.
There's no equivalent of him that Alex can play in any compilation who's saying that white people or Christians are inherently evil, nor is there any equivalent of him Alex can come up with who's giving friendly interviews to people who say that white people or Christians are evil.
I'm sure there's some kind of random people on TikTok or maybe even people with sizable audiences that say that kind of shit.
But in terms of a figure who's accepted as part of the mainstream of broadcasting, who's personally associated with all of the power structure and whose dad was apparently in the CIA, there's no one close.
If someone online, you know, if they're being racist against white people, that sucks and they shouldn't do that.
But it doesn't justify interviewing and being friends with explicit white supremacists.
You can't just say they started it and then everything is cool.
So it's very clear to us that Alex's message has always been rooted in white identity and that Nick is exactly the sort of person he would want to promote.
He's struggled to get Nick to speak in more PC-coded language so he wouldn't scare off some of the more normy people left in the Infowars audience, but it's become clear that isn't happening and that Nick has no reason to moderate his message at all.
Other figures bend to him, not the other way around.
So if Alex wants to continue this association with Nick, the thing to do is explain to the audience how racism is totally cool and loving it doesn't make you a racist.
If someone else is racist to you, you get to be racist back as a defense.
Yeah, it is like when you are revealing that you have to sit down and imagine a scenario that makes this okay.
And the scenario you come up with is so cinematically ridiculous that you like literally he's requiring a cigar chomping movie villain to be like, and we will end Christianity in order to justify his friends existing regularly.
The argument that's made in favor of blowing up these Venezuelan boats is that they're carrying lots of drugs, which will end up killing U.S. citizens if they aren't blown up.
The people on board have no rights because they're trafficking drugs in a way that Trump has decided to make them terrorists so they can be killed indiscriminately.
Obviously, I disagree with this, but if Alex accepts that killing people in those boats is just and legal, why did he ever have a problem with the war in Afghanistan?
It wasn't the whole story, but folks like Tucker in the past justified fighting the Taliban by pointing out that they were responsible for a large chunk of the international opium production, and that was killing America.
It was to Alex's credit that he didn't accept this as a justification for war in the 2000s.
But here we are 20 years later, and it's pathetic to see where he's ended up.
If he believes that the United States military can indiscriminately blow up boats and kill whoever it wants, then every criticism that he's ever made of U.S. militarism falls apart.
And so many of the things that were like, well, he makes a good point there.
Yeah, it is like the concept of thought leader reveals itself to be fucking stupid whenever you realize these people are just following along with what is popular at the time.
You know, over 80% of the military-age males that have come into Europe, it's the same number.
Some countries are up to 90.
They never get a job.
They either wear track suits or the nightgowns that they wear.
Their women wear the beekeeper outfits.
And they just create no-go zones and just sit around on welfare and then deal drugs and run sex slavery because we're Kafirs or infidels.
And so they're allowed to sell us drugs, put us in sex slavery because we're subhuman.
You mean to play a bunch of their newscast, national Islamic TV around the world saying that?
I mean, that's what's going on.
But they don't allow the jihadis in Saudi Arabia or Jordan or Egypt.
No, they're exported here by the leftist NGOs to further destabilize the country.
And it's a real shame because the Middle East, until the rise of Muhammad 1,400 years ago, had some of the greatest science, greatest art, greatest architecture, culture.
I mean, it was at the top.
Just leaps and mounts.
And as soon as Rome fell, the Middle East was becoming dominant just through culture and science.
I don't think he sees it as a religion, which means that there wouldn't be a conflict with the First Amendment if he wanted to just come out and say we should ban Islam.
And we should label anybody who is Islamic a terrorist, and we should, anybody who's found holding a Quran should be arrested and et cetera, et cetera.
I think that one of the funny things about this jag that Alex goes on is that later Nick comes on and he's like, there is no real problem with Muslims in the United States.
The crew made this ridiculous graphic, which I love.
I'm Batman, and Nick Fuentez is Robin.
Nick's joining us here in about 53 minutes from now.
So there you go.
That should be an interesting discussion debate coming up in the third and fourth hour today.
And I'm going to have them post that image above the live feed on X and point out that Nick's on it about 50-something minutes and that please post your questions in that post under it.
And then, guys, print me off some of the questions or comments or statements so that we can do that on air with Nick.
We're going to post that again right on top of the live show fee at the top of X.
So you see that post.
You just put your comments or questions in there.
We'll print them off and I'll read those on air with Nick.
That way I'm not the one captain of the ship here.
Like the Batman comes home and then slowly over time is like, all this Batman iconography used to have more bat, and now it seems like a bunch of lying.
But then Robin was like, hey, have you considered, though, that we're kind of exploiting the socioeconomic difference between us and the people that we describe as having a quote-unquote life of crime?
And so maybe actually we are the Nazis in the first place.
So I think that there's a fascinating glimpse there into how the audience, or at least the staff of Inforce, wants to paint Alex's relationship with Nick and how much he wants to sign off on that.
And we can see how they use the special ops group that went into Venezuela to overthrow Maduro on a secret note.
I just, like you said, we need to send the military in there, and we just need to stay away from the special forces because I think that's where the PSYOPs are going to take.
I'm not ascribing this to anybody's brilliance or capability whatsoever.
Not even competence.
But I find it interesting that because of the propaganda that's gone on for so long about Obama being a dictator during those years where everything was ascribed to him, it was Obamacare.
It was why is Obama doing this?
Why is Obama?
You know, like all of that reinforced for the people who consumed it that the president is the king already.
Right?
So one section of the world got news that only said, well, the president is a king.
And then the rest of us got news that was like, Congress is keeping him from doing stuff.
Alex, the problem we've all had, and the reason we're pulling our hair out trying to figure out is Trump with us or against us is that he flew under a false flag to get into office.
He said he was MAGA, but he's hopelessly conflicted.
He is a member of Chabad, a Jewish supremacist organization, as Henry Makow points out in his book, Illuminati 4.
And he's also a Freemason, which also is Kabbalah light.
So his allegiance is first and foremost to Israel, which is why he went ahead and bombed Iran, despite the fact that he had no congressional cover to do that.
I mean, it was a war crime, actually, to bomb a country that had done absolutely nothing to us.
Again, it's from Henry Maikau, who was himself in these organizations.
He knows what you're speaking of.
That Trump is on board.
You also have to understand, as he points out, Maikow does in his book, a former member of Chabad, a former Freemason, that Netanyahu was trained from his birth in Philadelphia by the Rothschilds using satanic ritual abuse.
He's on a suicide mission for Israel.
And I don't know if the Israeli people understand that, what he's doing here, just indiscriminately slaughtering Palestinians.
And I don't know if Trump understands that either.
Well, I think that there's something about the incremental change that has to play a role in it.
Because if you've listened to this show for 25 years, then you've just heard Alex saying that the president can do regime change and that it's fine to blow up these boats.
And if you've listened for 25 years, that's out of sync with the positions you're supposed to hold sacred.
So you have to be changed by the content that you're listening to over time to stay into it.
You can't listen for 25 years and have a consistent position.
He went to the funeral celebration, the death anniversary of the Lubabature Rebbe, Menachem Mendel Schneerson, put on his kippah, Trump did, and placed his hand on whatever monument is there to Schneerson.
I mean, why would a Christian president put on a kippah and celebrate the death of a crazy, an obvious rabid Jewish supremacist who wants to kill most of the Gentiles on the face of the earth so that the Jewish race can come into its own?
This caller has nothing and can't defend his points past dumb shit that Henry Macau is whined about in his anti-Semitic books.
But this exchange is fascinating because it reveals how little Alex has.
He thinks that pushing back and saying anyone can write something in a book is going to be good enough to shake this guy.
But then the caller comes back with this story and Alex can't really engage with it.
He's condemned so many people for so much less than what this caller is describing.
And he's based his recent career on yelling about spirit cooking and satanic rituals.
This caller has Alex on the back foot with this because if he tries to minimize the seriousness or relevance of this Jewish funeral anniversary or whatever, it threatens to break the Kfabe that Alex's show exists in.
And so all Alex can say is, what, you want to vote Democrat?
That's all he has left in the tank.
He's more pathetic and lost than any vote blue, no matter who MSNBC anchor that he would make a whole day out of making fun of.
He can't argue with this caller who's accusing Trump of being a Jewish supremacist Mason, so his only refuge is lesser of two evils rhetoric.
Alex has trapped himself in a box where the opposition to Trump is the greater of two evils by definition because they oppose Trump.
This has been the cornerstone of his content for years.
The idea that you know a person by their enemies and the devil hates Trump.
I think it's a big part of what makes him unable to break with Trump.
It's one thing to turn on him and be critical, but then what does that mean about all the demons who have been saying the same shit for years?
If virtue is determined by whether or not someone supports Trump to the point where you call people the pejorative never Trumper, that's a term that's an insult.
Do you have to reassess everything when you start not supporting him?
But I think that risks breaking the KFAB in the same way as being like some ceremonial shit isn't ritual or isn't like magic, evil devilry or whatever.
Sometimes when you are watching one of those old medieval age set movies, those old sword and fighting movies, you know, and there's all the kings and stuff, and you're like, man, this dialogue is really terrible.
But I would bet you five bucks that guy's got his head on a spike by the end of this movie.
And I get asked this question a lot because I spend all my time attacking Republicans and the right wing and Trump in particular.
And people say, well, why don't you focus more on the left?
Or why don't you focus exclusively on the left?
And to that, I would say we're in power right now.
We, the Republicans, the Trump movement, are in power.
Trump is in the White House.
Republicans still, as of right now, control the House and the Senate.
Allegedly, in the first term, they engineered it so that we could control the federal judiciary, the Supreme Court.
So without a doubt, we have all the cards.
We have all the power.
And I think that when that is the case, especially, maybe it's a different story when Biden was in charge.
I was certainly far more critical of the Democrats when he was the president.
But when Republicans are in charge, I really believe we have a special obligation to put the heat on Trump and to light a fire under them to get the things that they promised to do finished because we don't have that much time.
Maybe not none of the, maybe not none of them are willing, but maybe everyone, anyone who's willing has does not have enough backup and is not equipped.
And if you get that power, all of the money that you're making selling these supplements is nothing compared to what you would be able to pick your beak into.
If I'm the president, I'm going to do mass deportations.
I'm going to do everything in my power to deport as many people as possible immediately.
And no excuses about we need to spin up the personnel.
And I get it.
I talk to people that are in government and I understand some of the problems, but we need like a Herculean effort to get those deportations up immediately.
Like, I don't think there's a blackmail tape or anything like that, but like, there's some financial reason or something because it's ludicrous that he wouldn't recognize that like society is fucked in the brain.
Because we can't do it in real life on account of we'll all probably die.
So, you know how sometimes in those movies where they'll have the person who like was at the scene of the crime, but then there was a bomb or whatever.
So they take him to the fake hospital room and they've got the whole like fake TV show like, oh, the president has died.
And the guy's like, ah, our plan succeeded and reveals all the evil plans, right?
I want to do one of those for Alex, but just have a succession of the worst Trump things you could possibly imagine.
Like Trump goes to your house and fucks your wife in front of you and him be like, you know, that's a really good plan.
I think the task of the right is to outflank the left on economic populism.
That's just the answer.
It's literally that simple because the left has a lot of internal contradictions.
It's not so easy for them because, you know, there's going to be this like Josh Shapiro, Zorhan Mamdani problem is what I would call it.
On the right, we really just need to capitalize on the fact that the left is sort of being dragged down by the identity politics for them.
It's like the anti-white grievance politics, the radical stuff, the anti-FUD, transgender stuff.
It's really hurting them with a lot of their people, but the right just needs to get out of their own way.
They need to deliver on affordability housing.
They can't be telling the voters, if you can't afford to live in your city, you have to go and move somewhere else and work on an oil rig.
Like that's not going to work.
So there's opportunity for the right, but they have to listen to people like me, people like you, people like Tucker.
They need to kind of hear that we're at a red alert.
Big opportunities, but also major risks if we don't make the smart decisions.
So that's sort of my crystal ball for 28.
I think that, you know, the left is still not completely fortified yet, not consolidated, but they can, and you can see it, they're rallying because the right is making a lot of unforced errors.
If you want to be a permanent majority for the Republicans, you get the racists, and then you actually provide on like, hey, guess what?
Everybody makes like 50K and the taxes are low, whatever.
We're fine, right?
And if you're the Democrats, you're like, hey, we can do like a monumental change or gradiations of change or whatever, but also we're going to point the guillotines at the right people.
Like those are the two.
If you can get somebody on either side who can do those two, you'll be all right.
I think that Nick has a fine point for the 28 midterms, though, or 2028 election and the midterms.
Sure.
You know, like that they need their messaging to be like real world.
It needs to not be like, oh, look at these crazy Democrats or whatever.
And I think that that's a message to Democrats running, quite frankly, is that appeal to people who might be inclined towards Trump on the economic populism level and make sure that he's not able to trick people into supporting him with it.
Well, I don't know that he's listening to us, but I think it's strategic because, you know, you look at his actual policy, and I'll never forget this, and other people shouldn't either.
And this is a concern.
I'm always listening and I'm always open-minded.
But last year, Vance made a very intentional choice during the election to go to an anti-war think tank called the Quincy Institute.
And they're not isolationists, but they're prioritizers.
And there's a book by Barry Pose, and it kind of gives their ideology.
And they talk about prioritizing China or the Western Hemisphere.
He goes to a think tank, which is very much against the Middle Eastern wars.
And he gives a speech about putting a pro-Israel spin on America first and justifying the relationship with Israel on the basis of missile defense or arming them to fight Iran or integrating them into an Abraham alliance that can kind of share the responsibilities in the Middle East.
And that was like a very intentional signal.
He was signaling allegiance and loyalty to the Israel lobby.
And, you know, and I don't know if I agree with that necessarily because I don't think that that's even possible.
And I think that this year has sort of shown the limitations of that idea because Trump is trying to extricate us from the region and Netanyahu wants us to fight Iran.
And so I don't know how simple that is to say, well, we're just going to hand it off to Israel.
I think Israel's always going to kind of need our help and they're always going to demand more.
So it's just, it's a question.
And I think that Vance is acutely aware of the fact that public sentiment is turning against Israel.
And that's why he didn't condemn Tucker.
That's why when he was asked about it, he actually went and quote tweeted some Jewish journalist who was attacking Buckley, Tucker's son, who works for Vance in the press office.
That was a very telling response.
And so now Vance is pivoting and now he's signaling to the Groyper aligned Gen Z or the Grouper Aligned millennials and Xers who are very critical of Israel.
So I think that Nick is somebody who, like, if Alex had any kind of like JD Vance was possibly like interested in him or, you know, could be argued that Alex had shaped his thinking.
Now, I will say that Alex does have one thing going in his favor from that otherwise very rational response that Nick gave, which is that Nick is not allowed to say certain words because he cannot say them descriptively.
They can only be said pejoratively.
Like in Nick's mouth, it should be the J-word.
He should not be allowed to say.
You can't be like, oh, he's a Jewish politician.
That doesn't exist for Nick.
He's a, you know, like, I don't even want to repeat it.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I can see why you would want to pull back the language a little bit to get your point across.
Yeah, and I think it's a very interesting position because I think that Nick is clearly, he's been bolstered by Tucker interview, by all of the fucking attention.
And now, like, he was on Piers Morgan.
Jesus.
And, like, all these people are falling into the trap of engaging with him.
And he's, like you said, he's perfectly situated to exploit all of this shit.
And I think that Alex has to recognize that.
He knows that he's on the fall.
Nick is on the rise.
And them being next to each other, like, if I'm Alex, I don't know how you live in that moment.
Hire one of our employees who've been over 10 years.
Infiltrate, jack into all the cameras for a year, found nothing corrupt watching us.
We don't have like in the rooms, but in the hallways and outside.
And they just publish it all.
Totally illegal, totally criminal.
We're filing suit on them.
Like, probably within a week, all of them.
But civil rights violations, conspiracy against rights, all run with the DOJ.
But I saw you a clip from you a few days ago on when you did it, but I watched a live show.
Son of using his clips.
You were explaining, like, they go through and they hire these people and they, like, Jared Holt, and they just, and then they contact everybody in your family, everybody you know.
They find somebody to then pay them off to go lie about you.
I mean, this is people, and we're not playing victim here.
You just need to know how nasty these people are.
And people say, oh, why don't more people stand up?
Because when you come prominent, folks, they literally come after you and stalk the living hell out of you.
I think that as long as he just talks about the SPLC and the ADL and stuff, you have a sort of umbrella of like, I'm not talking about an individual person.
It's almost like by, I mean, it is in a way ultimately the highest compliment that we are paid, which is that no one will ever acknowledge that we exist.
And then there's the other humor where he will make a joke about six million cookies being cooked during a certain amount of time in order to make a joke about Holocaust denial, which is his actual position.
And the good news is I think people are starting to wake up because I see these kind of out-of-context clips and I see all the comments are saying, oh, nice.
You edited down to eight seconds.
What's that all about?
So I think people are starting to become aware.
That being said, I don't think that that will ever go out of fashion because the vast majority of people have such a limited attention span and are quick to judge and everything like that.
And one of the things that's so fascinating about it is that it exists within this context of a conversation of people playing short clips to take them out of context.
And in context, he is saying that the Jews use out-of-context clips and short things in order to attack the goy.
It makes me, it really takes me back to some, like, like, this is shit that should have been handled when you were young.
This should have been, like, this feels like something that a coach would take you under the bleachers behind and be like, listen, I'm going to explain this to you politely and kindly one time.
And Alex knows what he's doing and he's he's totally fine with and endorses.
So, yeah, as I'm listening to this, this discussion about people taking clips of them as a person whose job it is to independently take clips of them and yell about them and go to Portland to do sold-out shows playing those clips.
I can't imagine what it's like working in one of those offices, a daily wire, because you got to remember, and I know you do, Mark Levin and Shapiro, these guys were on top 10 years ago.