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Dec. 15, 2025 - Knowledge Fight
01:19:45
#1102: The 5-Star Poetry Slam

In this installment, Dan and Jordan celebrate the holiday season with a nice, relaxing exploration of the many great literary works performed by Alex's soap sponsor over the years.

Participants
Main
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dan friesen
35:29
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jordan holmes
24:42
m
marty schachter
11:03
Appearances
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alex jones
infowars 04:21
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
alex jones
Knowledgeparty.com.
It's time to pray.
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
Shang me are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
Andy and Kansas.
Andy and Tandy.
Stop it.
Andy and Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Andy.
alex jones
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fish pin color.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your room.
Knowledge fight.
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you, buddy.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
Which bright spot today?
dan friesen
Why don't you go first?
Because it's December and you always go first in December.
jordan holmes
That's our new rule.
That's just how it works.
Yeah.
Well, my bright spot today is it's the end of the year, December, of course.
Yeah.
And this is when people start putting out all their best of the year music lists and movie lists and all that shit.
dan friesen
It'd be weird if they did that at a different time of year.
jordan holmes
It would be strange.
And so this year, I have been more disconnected from the internet and like the music and all of that than I ever have before.
So I was listening to some of those and I realized that there's a new open Mike Eagle album for 2025 and it's fantastic.
dan friesen
I feel like I've heard you talking about that on this show.
I know about this.
How do you not know?
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
That was the last one.
That was the last one that I had found.
He puts out an album every year or so, I think.
Something like that.
Sure, sure.
But yeah, it's really good.
There's a song about Superman.
dan friesen
Pro or anti?
jordan holmes
It's very, how about, wait.
Let's put it this way.
It's very much like, hey, everybody at the Daily Planet, you know that's fucking Superman, right?
Why are you gaslighting me?
Why are y'all gaslighting me?
dan friesen
You're journalists.
jordan holmes
Right.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
You're trained to ask the five questions.
You're looking at this guy.
Nope, no questions here.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Yeah.
No, and it's a really great album because that is kind of emblematic of the whole way that he manages to take these very small, like mundane pop culture things and pull really, really solid fountain metaphors out of them.
So it's just a great album.
It's a great album.
dan friesen
Was it any discussion of crypto?
The dog?
jordan holmes
Crypto the dog.
Oh, I was going to say, I was like, does he have a crypto reference?
dan friesen
I know the dog.
The cool ass flying dog in the new Superman.
jordan holmes
No, unfortunately, we don't.
I believe he was pulling more from the old Daily Planet days for comic strip days.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot?
dan friesen
At least one of those people, Jimmy Olson, is just a liar.
He knows.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Oh, that is true.
dan friesen
I mean, he knows who Superman is.
jordan holmes
Well, Lois Lane knows.
dan friesen
Right.
Right.
And she works there.
So the two of them both work there.
And yeah, they're liars.
jordan holmes
They're probably gossip.
There's a lot of people that go out after dinner or go out for dinner and stuff like that.
Everybody does.
dan friesen
Reporters drink, man.
They drink.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
There's no way that she hasn't let slip that she's fucked Superman, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's that, I mean, status.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Even if you don't say it's Clark, you're just like, hey, you know, Super Bowl.
Okay.
dan friesen
You're from the song?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So my bright spot, Jordan, is that it is the 15th.
It is December 15th.
And as is tradition through December, it is time for some cheese.
unidentified
It's time for cheese.
It's time for cheese.
Dance cheese advent calendar.
As long as Jordan doesn't ruin it with shitty vampires.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Thank you so much, Nick.
unidentified
God, what a winner.
dan friesen
Got a little gig in on Jordan.
jordan holmes
I like a good stab through the back.
dan friesen
That's I like the idea, too, that these stings and jingles are evolving as we go along to reflect what the segment has become.
Yep.
So it is the 15th, more than halfway through this Advent calendar.
And I got to chew on Aldi's ear a little bit here.
I got a problem.
I got a dark spot here.
And that is they advertise that there's 24 cheeses, and we've already repeated cheeses.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
I mean, technically, we have yet to really repeat a cheese.
dan friesen
That's not true.
I got a mature Gouda again.
jordan holmes
Oh, never mind.
dan friesen
Yeah, in terms of what we've done in the cheese jingle show, no, there's not been any repeats, but in my personal life, I have opened up one of these boxes and seen, like, oh, this is just the same thing again.
And that, I think, is a cop-out.
I think that's cheap.
There's 24 possible cheeses.
Get it together.
jordan holmes
Yes.
But maybe Aldi knows that you have a personal cheese at a professional cheese life that needs to be shared.
So they're like, maybe he would like another mature Gouda in his personal life.
dan friesen
No.
And if I did, I would go get it.
I would take that matter into my own hands.
jordan holmes
That does seem available.
dan friesen
I'm opening up, creak, opening up these little boxes on the Advent Calendar.
I'm like, oh, I fucking love this one.
Guess what?
It exists.
I can go find it.
jordan holmes
You just don't believe that Aldi knows what's best for you.
And I think that you have made a grave mistake when you don't trust them.
dan friesen
I definitely agree that I don't think they know what's best for me.
But today, we have a new one, a new little cheese.
unidentified
And it might be a little bit appropriate.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Might be a little bit appropriate because this is cheddar with whiskey.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, it might get wasted on this cheese.
And now we come to the part where Jordan vamps and I eat this cheese.
jordan holmes
All right.
I think whiskey at this time of the year is fantastic, especially today.
I don't know if it will be clear from the description later on, but we are recording this remotely.
It is roughly zero degrees outside in Chicago, and it's the type of temperature where people add the feels-like to it.
Nobody ever adds a temperature like feels like 55.
Nope, it's zero degrees and it feels like you're going to die.
Or it's 105 degrees and it feels like 130.
Like there's never a good it feels like when it comes to temperature.
So that is kind of how it is outside right now.
dan friesen
Yeah, it never feels like nicer.
jordan holmes
Feels like better than you would have expected.
Not going to happen.
dan friesen
So, a cheddar on whiskey is mighty risky.
You got him wasted.
I'm fucking wasted.
I took a bite of this cheese.
I fucked up.
jordan holmes
I'm not going to give you an open Mike Eagle lyric.
dan friesen
Or a Space Ghost episode.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Shark on beer is a beer engineer.
jordan holmes
That is old Kentucky cheese, and it has been there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You know what?
I don't really taste whiskey at all in that.
This just tastes like a cheddar.
And it tastes like a fine cheddar.
I'm not mad at it.
But yeah, this could have a little more whiskey in it.
jordan holmes
How do you infuse the taste of cheese with whiskey?
Do you know what I mean?
dan friesen
I imagine as it's aging, you maybe like barrel soak it or something like that.
I don't know.
I know that you infuse things by soaking them.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because there are some cheeses that are like soaked in espresso or whatever, and then it gets in the rind.
jordan holmes
That's more information than I had.
So it's see, like, if you had just come up to me and said, oh, they soak this cheese in a barrel, I would have been very surprised and laughed at you probably.
Because that doesn't sound real.
But I guess they might.
I guess they might just soak cheese in barrels these days.
marty schachter
Yeah.
unidentified
Put it in a barrel, you're fine.
dan friesen
I'm wasted.
jordan holmes
I mean, you had a little bit of chewing in there.
That definitely adds.
That's a little life's very fragile.
Yeah, put it in buggers first.
dan friesen
What are we doing, Jordan?
Why are we here?
jordan holmes
We are recording an episode of the podcast.
dan friesen
That's right.
We're doing it remotely because it's cold outside, and I didn't want you to have to come over here.
jordan holmes
Feels like cold outside.
dan friesen
It's so damn cold.
And unfortunately, because we're doing this remotely, I don't have the wonk sound effect, so I can't give a shout-out to any wonks.
But in place of that, something that I would like to do is discuss maybe not an, I don't know if it's a bright spot, but it's something that happened last night, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Are you going to talk about somebody in particular who might be joked?
Very ripped.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe an honorary wonk of some sort.
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, I like that.
dan friesen
Last night, we witnessed John Cena's last match in the WWE.
He is gone.
The last time has passed.
And I almost cried.
I was close.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
I was close.
I got sentimental.
jordan holmes
Yeah, for sure.
So this is something that I do want you to talk about because we have had many conversations about John Cena over the years based upon your whimsical nature of liking and disliking him.
And I think that has been the wrestling fans' entire experience, right?
Isn't that what I mean?
dan friesen
I've always liked him, but I think some stretches of his career are pretty boring.
I think that sometimes things weren't going that great.
And I think some booking decisions were obviously wrong.
But I've always thought he has something going for himself.
He's a cut above the norm.
And he seems like a great guy.
In terms of he has a really good public image of like, I spend all my time doing all this make-a-wish shit.
I have a good sense of humor about myself.
I'll let myself be the butt of jokes and movies and late-night appearances.
I don't care.
I don't take myself too seriously.
jordan holmes
Actual scar.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I think that that charm has always been there.
And yeah, I like the guy.
I think, you know, sometimes he's boring, but sure.
jordan holmes
I just think that he's kind of from what I've read.
dan friesen
Pray should have won.
Yes, okay.
Exactly.
That's fine.
jordan holmes
From what I've read.
No, but from what I've read about Cena's current retirement and eventual unretirement, is that his relationship with the fans has been like they have either liked or disliked him, and sometimes on the same show.
Yeah, like it's just a very random feeling kind of relationship in terms of liking and disliking.
dan friesen
He won all the time, and for like no one beat him for you had like Hulk Hogan level, no one can beat him.
And so people did turn on his super Cena-ness.
And so like there was a stretch of time where people would have like signs that say, if Cena wins, we riot.
And it would become a thing where people would chant, let's go, Cena, Cena sucks, let's go, Cena.
Like dueling chants would break out pretty regularly.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Yeah, that explains America right now.
That explains it all, doesn't it?
dan friesen
Well, and the fact that that is like a sustainable thing that someone can do is such a testament to how good they are as a performer.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That like you're getting these reactions out of people.
And, you know, I think in this last stretch, him like the going bad heel turn stuff didn't work.
Yeah.
But that was the rock's fault.
I think that I 100% think that's the rock's fault.
But yeah, the last match, obviously he had to lose.
It was destined to lose.
And he was he went, he was against Gunter, the Nazi fella, the giant Nazi fella on the lineup.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
So the American hero lost to the Nazi?
dan friesen
Yeah, and he John Cena, his whole thing is hustle, loyalty, respect, never give up.
And he tapped out.
jordan holmes
And he tapped out?
dan friesen
Yeah, to the Nazi.
jordan holmes
That is a metaphor.
That is dark.
That is a dark metaphor.
dan friesen
It is, especially considering after the match, there's this big ceremony.
Everybody comes out to the ring and is standing around.
He kisses the mat, but also the mat is, it says Riyadh season on it.
It's just dark.
It's just fucking dark.
jordan holmes
This is a dark timeline, man.
dan friesen
All really normal stuff.
Like, he's got to lose to a heel in his last match.
He's got to kiss the mat, show the respect for wrestling.
He's got to do all these things.
But because of the world we live in, it's all like just reflected in a crazy house mirror slightly.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
So he has to lose to the heel.
So the story going in is avenging Cena just immediately right out the gate, taking it away from the bad guy.
dan friesen
No, no, but you have to go out on your back if you're like a big guy because you got to put over the next generation.
You know, like you winning doesn't do anything except for your ego is stroked by you won the last match.
Whereas if you're someone like Cena, someone retiring you and beating you in your last match can be really good for them going forward.
So he has to do that.
If he wins his last match, he's an asshole.
That's basically the understanding that everybody has.
And it's better if it's a real heel who beats him because then he can be like, I fucking beat your hero, you piece of shit.
You all suck.
You can't compare to me, the Nazi ring general.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
He wasn't even going to retire that show.
He was going to retire the next show, but I kicked his ass too hard.
He had to retire.
dan friesen
Well, I don't know if you could pull that off because the whole thing was kept talking about how this is his last night.
jordan holmes
It did feel very obvious.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It was fun, though.
Like, you know, walk down memory lane of stuff.
And like, they had a lot of great video packages of his career and like past opponents and stuff that was really sweet.
Like CM Punk's interview, like when they were talking to him, he was like crying.
Like, he had tears in his eyes talking about how everybody thought I hated you, but in reality, I've always just been following your lead.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
That was beautiful.
But then there was also The Rock, and The Rock made Cena's retirement all about him.
What?
jordan holmes
I can't believe that.
dan friesen
Yeah, you earned a great retirement, and we did some great matches together.
jordan holmes
It was come see my upcoming movie, Black Adam 2.
dan friesen
Get some terramana tequila.
jordan holmes
Do you know what?
You remind me a lot of the smashing machine out last summer.
Yeah.
dan friesen
No one can make me watch that movie.
You'll have to clockwork orange me in order to force me to see that.
But anyway, it was a nice time.
I had a blast, I guess.
Good.
I guess.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, it was a moment in your life, and those are sometimes tough to come by, right?
dan friesen
It's weird, too, to have somebody who's like, you know, he is a star now.
He doesn't have to do this.
He's in movies.
And he was.
jordan holmes
Well, he's in movies with Idris Elba as the prime minister, and he's the president of the United States.
So let's not say he's like in movies.
dan friesen
For wrestlers, that's huge.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
Compared to the movies Hulk Hogan was doing.
And John Cena's in the Fast and Furious franchise.
Like, he's, you know, he's doing things.
jordan holmes
You're right.
You're right.
dan friesen
And also, he didn't hurt himself in some terrible way.
So he's retiring in a way that's not like, sorry, this sucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's, it's, it's strange.
You rarely get to get to see these weird moments like this.
People in that industry either usually die or it's really sad.
And so like, this was weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Vaya Condios, John Cena, wish you all the best.
jordan holmes
Until we see you again.
Change shape, buddy.
dan friesen
But but Bray should have won.
So, Jordan, today we have an episode we're going to be doing here.
Okay.
And I knew that we were going to be recording remotely.
And so I wanted to do something that wasn't going to be too difficult, too hard, too straining on our emotions.
Sure.
And then also, I had a feeling that this last couple months, I've been trying real hard to give you superpowers.
I've put you through a real gauntlet of shit.
And maybe that's not fair.
Maybe you deserve a break.
Maybe we shouldn't just be trying to push your buttons all the time.
Maybe we should do something nice.
jordan holmes
Two Brits.
Two Brits who talk too much and are awful people.
That's two.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
And even beyond that, you know, there's Elijah Schaefer and a possible Elijah Schaefer full episode that still could be coming.
There's other things that I'm going to do in the future that this is sort of an apology in advance for.
unidentified
Gotcha.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
Well, thanks.
That's pleasant.
dan friesen
So what I thought I would do is I would put together just a nice walk through the park of times that Marty Schachter, Alex's soap sponsor, has been on the show and done limericks.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
This might be the happiest day of the year.
dan friesen
So we can.
And I think that this really leans into some of your skills as an English major, as someone who likes literature.
jordan holmes
As somebody who ruins things with bad vamping.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yep.
Ooh, vamping and vaping.
unidentified
That's the is that us?
jordan holmes
Is that our new after-show about when we talk about Knowledge Fight?
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
On Hulu.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I just have a collection of Marty Schachter.
Some limericks, some not, some very much not.
jordan holmes
I'm in.
I couldn't be more in.
I just want to hear limericks for the rest of the day.
dan friesen
So these are all in chronological order.
These are like in terms of his first appearance as things go on, as he gets a little bit more comfortable with being on the show and maybe pushes things too far.
jordan holmes
Are you saying that we are doing an evolution of Schachter episode?
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This is a deep dive on the soap man.
jordan holmes
I love it.
dan friesen
So here is the first time that Marty was on the show and goes for a limerick.
And it's a real simple one.
This is just a nice old man.
alex jones
Again, the globalists are shysters.
So, see, they set up the system again.
It's always the same to do this.
Whereas we have Made in America, high-quality systems that just use plant matter, just use vegetable oils to truly clean the good old-fashioned way.
Folks, give him a call, 800-340-7091.
God bless you, and good to have you on, Marty.
marty schachter
Thank you very much.
Can I close with a poem?
unidentified
Sure.
marty schachter
The little soul, he has no time for birth control.
That is why, in times like these, we have so many sons of bees.
alex jones
They're funny.
Take care.
marty schachter
Thank you.
alex jones
You bet.
He's a real character, folks.
You can hear the phones ringing.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a real character right there.
Sons of bees.
jordan holmes
I like that.
I like that for a couple of reasons.
One, if this is his first time and he's thrown out, can I close with a poem?
Alex does not actually know what is about to happen, right?
dan friesen
I think not.
I would assume not.
I mean, like, who knows what goes on in contracts?
You know, like, there could have been a deep negotiation that went on.
But I will say, at this point, I do have some context.
Like, Marty Schachter was only a sponsor with Genesis Communications, and Alex wanted him to be a direct sponsor for Alex, as opposed to sponsoring Alex through GCN.
And so at this point, he is like hooked up with Ted Anderson and the GCN folks.
So Alex isn't, he's not directly sponsored by him yet at the point when he's doing this B limerick, this B poem.
jordan holmes
That's more of a couple, that's a couplet.
There's two lines, two rhymes.
I like that.
That's a little four spot.
dan friesen
Yeah, these bees, they're busy souls.
They don't have time for birth controls.
jordan holmes
Do you think he wrote that on his own, or do you think he grabbed that from somewhere?
dan friesen
Tough to say.
Also, the bee population is dropping.
jordan holmes
There are not enough sons of bees, frankly, at this point in time.
That's what it feels like.
dan friesen
Yes, he's totally wrong.
jordan holmes
Somehow, even when they're just doing borderline innocuous poems, they're wrong about something.
Horrible.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I mean, bees should wrap it up.
Sure.
Cool.
So a little bit later, Marty is back on the show.
And Alex has him bring on a little limerick.
marty schachter
We sold a factory direct, and we still got people after all these years buying our products for themselves, their new families, or whatever.
alex jones
All right.
Marty, let me give people the number.
800-340-791-800-340-791.
God bless you, my friend.
We'll talk to you again soon.
marty schachter
Alex, thank you.
Let me close with a little tiny poem.
A bee's a busy little soul.
He has no time for birth control.
That is why, in times like these, we have so many sons of bees.
alex jones
Take care, my friend.
marty schachter
Thank you, Alex.
alex jones
There goes Marty.
What a character.
dan friesen
Yeah, what a character.
Did the same fucking poem.
jordan holmes
That was the second time.
And he did the same poem.
All right.
dan friesen
He did the same poem.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
So let's have a post this one conversation between Alex and Marty right here.
Because to me, I'm hearing this and I'm going, well, this man's going to try and make this the same bit every single time that we see each other.
So I need to nip this in the bud right now.
I need you to never do a poem again, Marty.
dan friesen
I need you to either never do a poem or you need a new bit, man.
You can't be coming to my show and doing the same material.
The audience, they're not responding anymore.
The bee stuff is dead.
You burned it.
jordan holmes
This is not 80s comedy.
You can't be touring the same hour, buddy.
You got to rewrite, rewrite, rewrite.
You got to go.
dan friesen
And I know the bee bit is good.
It's strong.
I understand that.
But yeah, you got to keep moving.
You got to keep moving.
jordan holmes
Because you're on the right path.
We love being mean about birth control here.
That's what we're here to do.
So add more lines, write new poems about birth control, but do not do the same poem ever again.
You cannot fake laugh anymore.
dan friesen
Now you've touched on something interesting because I think that Marty's folksiness and what the implication of the limerick is, is supporting birth control.
I think that this is actually counter to the beliefs that Alex would want.
Like, there would be less sons of bees out there if people were using birth control.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but they don't, but they don't want people to use birth control because then there won't be enough white people.
That's the next part of these poems.
It needs to be more about white people.
dan friesen
This is in like the 2006, 2007 period.
So that might have been too strong for the time.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
It was different.
Yeah, that's fair.
Well, passionate conservatism.
dan friesen
I'm not sure if Marty got a note from Alex that, like what you're saying, of like, you got to get some new bits, stop it with a bee thing.
But he does branch out for his next appearance.
And instead of having a poem, he has a life philosophy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Marty, thank you for being one of the few companies, I guess, left in this country.
And thank you for your amazing product.
We've got to get it in Whole Foods grocery stores.
Have you tried that yet?
I've been for years buying organic subs there, and a lot of them are really harsh, super expensive, even more than the normal toxic stuff at the regular grocery store.
Have you tried to get your...
marty schachter
Yes, I'll tell you a story about that on our next visit.
unidentified
I'd like to end with a little, just a little philosophy.
marty schachter
Yesterday is history.
Tomorrow is a mystery.
And today is a gift.
That's why they call it the present.
alex jones
Marty, take care.
marty schachter
Thank you, Alex.
alex jones
He is something else.
dan friesen
He sure is.
jordan holmes
This makes me think he did not write the previous poem.
dan friesen
No, he fucking saw them on a Hallmark card.
Also, Marty Schachter fought in World War II.
jordan holmes
Do you know what's crazy?
Do you know what he said on VJ Day?
Let me close with the poem.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Every single time there's a D-Day memorial, he comes up with a limerick that there once was a man from Normandy.
jordan holmes
I have a question.
His wife thought he was a Bourbony.
unidentified
I believe you said you had a question.
jordan holmes
Sorry.
All right.
So once we've established that this man likes to close things out with his own little sign-off, right?
Do you think this extends to other places in his life, or do you think this is just like, I'm on the radio, I have to have a sign-off?
dan friesen
I see, no, it's not just the radio, I assume.
Yeah, I think when Alex says, oh, he's a character, I think that's true.
I think he's probably a fucking character.
unidentified
He's a lot to deal with.
jordan holmes
You don't say it literally every time unless there's something about it.
At Barty, he's a real character, isn't he?
dan friesen
But I also think that's a pleasant character for the most part.
He's an old man who's a little bit annoying, who likes to tell little poems.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I've met that guy so many times, fairly benign.
Sure, there's an annoyance there, but you know what?
Sometimes it hits the spot.
It's almost like a little nostalgia burst.
You're like, you do it, old man.
You fucking keep it going.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he fought in World War II.
He's still got a little spark of life in him that he wants to entertain people.
Come on.
unidentified
Let the man be.
jordan holmes
That should be our only true law in this country.
I'm against all laws except for one.
If you fought in a war, you get to do limericks.
dan friesen
No, no.
It's got to be a specific kind of war.
It's got, like, World War II is a war that I think we can all look back on as, like, it's defensible.
jordan holmes
The last good limerick war.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The last war that justifies limericks.
jordan holmes
Right.
Gotcha.
You can't do limericks if you went to Vietnam.
Let's just get that out of the way.
Nobody can do limericks for Vietnam.
dan friesen
No.
And if you're about to go to Venezuela, you can't do limericks.
jordan holmes
Not anymore.
No.
dan friesen
So Marty comes back with the heat.
And this, actually, I found this one a little confusing.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And I was really excited to hear that your phones melted off the walls for three days.
Last time we had you on.
I wish we had that type of response here with my videos.
marty schachter
We're going crazy here.
The people kept calling.
They want soap.
They don't want detergents.
They don't want to be ripped off in the marketplace with all these poisons.
And this is what we're there to help you.
There's nothing, nothing, but we offer any marketplace, anywhere.
This is something we are proud of.
I'd like to close with a limerick.
alex jones
Sure, go ahead.
marty schachter
There was a young monk from Siberia whose life grew drearier and drearier.
So a night with a yell, he escaped from his cell and eloped with a Mother Superior.
alex jones
Thank you, Marty.
Always good to talk to you.
unidentified
Thank you, Alex.
marty schachter
Talk to you soon.
alex jones
You better take care now.
dan friesen
Okay, so there's a monk in Siberia whose life sucks.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Well, Siberia.
dan friesen
He runs away with Mother Superior.
jordan holmes
I think there's a lot of problems I have.
First off, I am strongly against slant rhymes.
I don't know if this has been made clear in our 1100-odd episodes, but slant rhymes are, I think, a cruel joke that terrible writers play on the rest of us.
And two, what kind of monastery is he at?
dan friesen
That's what I was struggling with because I feel like we hear monk in Siberia.
I'm thinking a Buddhist monk, maybe.
I'm thinking maybe in the mountains.
I'm definitely not thinking somewhere close to a nunnery or where Mother Superior would be.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, you could go with like a Russian Orthodox monk.
dan friesen
Sure.
But is a monastery connected to a nunnery?
unidentified
Not that I'm aware of, but who knows?
jordan holmes
You know, some people have like little separate areas?
I have no idea.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe there's wisdom to this limerick that's beyond the credit that we're giving it.
jordan holmes
Maybe there's something deeper here within this limerick.
And actually, this was set by a man who is trying to escape from Siberia.
dan friesen
Maybe it's Marty taking the piss out of religion.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
dan friesen
You commit yourself to religion and you're a monk.
Oh, God, your life sucks.
It's awful.
But you know what?
Go run away with this lady.
jordan holmes
I posit this to you.
I posit this to you.
This man is the least interesting character in this entire story.
All right.
What is the Mother Superior's internal life like, where she has made it all the way up to Mother Superior at a monastery, clearly male-controlled?
Sure.
And then she has been seduced, or did she seduce this man who is lazy and bored?
dan friesen
It's hard to say, but the implication I think from listening to it is clearly she wasn't kidnapped.
jordan holmes
No, she was not.
dan friesen
There was a choice that she made to go away with the monk.
jordan holmes
We can assume there was a loving relationship at the end of this limerick.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And his life was less drearier once he left Siberia.
jordan holmes
You know what's crazy?
I fucking, I was vibid with Schachter's belief in soap.
I felt that.
That was a true man who was proud of his goddamn soap.
The people, they want soap.
They don't want detergent.
That was heartfelt.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You'll hear that a lot from him if you listen to his interviews.
He is deeply passionate about, well, first of all, hating detergent.
And then just like, he is a fucking soap guy.
Like, he's not trying to branch out into other things.
It's kind of refreshing in some way.
Like, this is a good thing.
jordan holmes
He's a soap man through and through.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yep.
So this next one is the first time we get a little bit of a little cheeky.
jordan holmes
A little saucy limerick.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
marty schachter
And we've been doing this, and this is our year, the 60th year of getting soap back into the home again, and saying to Proctor Lever and Colgate, I don't need you anymore.
alex jones
That's right.
You guys started in 1947, so you're now celebrating your 60th year.
marty schachter
And our slogan here is our business is going down to drain.
alex jones
All right, Marty, CalvinPureSub.com or five-starsove.com or 1-800-340-7091.
Thanks for coming on, Marty, and we'll talk to you again.
marty schachter
I'd like to leave a thought for today.
The thought for today is sex on television is not harmful unless you fall off.
alex jones
Take care, my friend.
marty schachter
Thank you, Alex.
dan friesen
All right.
alex jones
Good to talk to Marty.
dan friesen
What a character.
What a character.
jordan holmes
Isn't that a Woody Allen joke?
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
I want to say that's a Woody Allen joke.
That was in his sex between two people is amazing.
So provided it's the right two people.
That one?
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm sure it's in 100 books of jokes.
Sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
I want to be clear that Marty Schachter supports Woody Allen.
That's what I want to be clear on this.
This is my end now.
This is why I don't like him because his folksy attitude and his love of soap win me over very quickly.
dan friesen
But his ripping off of Woody Allen makes you suspicious.
jordan holmes
Of course.
Of course.
Well, this is don't tell me.
He's a doctor.
dan friesen
2007, 2008.
It was a different time.
People didn't know about Woody Allen's stuff.
But, like, I think that's a little ribald.
I think that's a little – Alex is probably feeling a little bit – Uh-oh.
The hope schooled kids listening.
Ooh, they're good.
jordan holmes
Well, I hope his next joke isn't from Roman Polanski.
dan friesen
It is not, but it is.
It's from a famous figure.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This is attributed to Abraham Lincoln.
I don't think Abraham Lincoln said it.
alex jones
Okay, Marty, we'll talk to you soon.
unidentified
Give us your limerick.
marty schachter
This is from 1870, attributed to Abraham Lincoln.
I'm not sure if it's so, but some say it is attributed.
It goes like this.
Drinking beer from a tomato can will never kill a man.
Drinking beer won't kill a man, but an old tomato can.
alex jones
Take care, Marty.
marty schachter
Thank you, Alex.
alex jones
You bet.
What a character, folks.
dan friesen
Oh, you take care.
What a character.
What a character.
unidentified
When would Lincoln have said this?
dan friesen
Gettysburg.
jordan holmes
Hey, guys.
Hey, real quick, before I start the main speech, can I do a little warm-up for everybody?
I got some bits, and then I'll get into the forescore.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
Four score and 20 tomato cans.
jordan holmes
I just want to open with a.
I got some hot new tomato can material.
dan friesen
You can drink beer out of a tomato can.
Beer won't kill a man, but a tomato can.
jordan holmes
We don't drink beer out of tomato cans.
Shut up.
I'll do my brain speech later.
God damn it.
dan friesen
That's it.
I'm freeing the slaves.
jordan holmes
That's it.
Everybody's free.
Everybody's free.
dan friesen
Do you like that?
That's it.
Civil war.
It's Civil War time.
If you don't like my tomato limerick.
jordan holmes
Was the tomato can the one that did it?
Was that the end?
dan friesen
It could have been.
So that is weird.
That's a weird one.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Yep.
That doesn't make any sense to me.
I recognize that it's a play on the number of times you could put and in there.
dan friesen
No, yeah, no, it makes sense grammatically.
And an old tomato can kill you.
That's true.
But beer can kill you, too.
And so can drinking out of an old can.
You can get tetanus or, you know, something like, so all of that stuff could kill you.
jordan holmes
Here's what the problem is, right?
We live in the post-Lincoln times.
So once you say drink beer from an old tomato can, I'm like, that's botulism, sir.
Please do not tell me any more of this joke.
You need to go to the hospital as soon as possible.
dan friesen
Yeah, you guys didn't even understand canning back then.
You didn't like boil the jars.
Come on, man.
jordan holmes
Pasteurization even start.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So that one, I think, makes total sense, but it's kind of dumb.
But the next time that he's on, Marty's got a little limerick, of course.
And then Alex asks for clarification.
What was that Lincoln one about?
alex jones
Marty, thank you for spending time with us again today.
marty schachter
Thank you.
I've just got a poem for you.
alex jones
I always love to hear him.
marty schachter
I'm dedicating this to my hero, Alex Jones.
Bee's a busy little soul.
He has no time for birth control.
That is why, in times like these, we have so many sons of bees.
alex jones
Now, last week, or excuse me, last month when you were on with us, I didn't get the limerick or the pun or the joke about potato or tomato cans and Lincoln.
None of us understood that.
Can you break that down for us?
marty schachter
From the 1800s, they think it's from one of the stories of Abraham Lincoln at that time.
And it just goes like drinking beer from a tomato can can never kill a man.
Drinking beer won't kill a man, but an old tomato can.
alex jones
All right, now I get it, Marty.
dan friesen
Now you get it?
jordan holmes
How does that make it more clear?
dan friesen
He just said it again.
jordan holmes
All right.
Oh, now I get it.
A tomato can.
Did he actually not understand the removal of an additional word and how the tomato can is a double entange for the can?
dan friesen
He said that no one around here got it.
So that implies that everyone at InfoWars, they were like talking to each other.
Marty's usually like, he makes a lot of sense, but what the fuck was up with that tomato thing?
jordan holmes
And not just that, but they were also talking about Lincoln while they were doing it.
They were like, how did Lincoln involve himself within this tomato can bit?
dan friesen
That's attributed to our great former president.
So Brock brought the B one back.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I know the last one, he said, oh, go ahead, Marty.
Give us your poem.
So he already knew that Marty was planning on giving a poem.
So I think we've established now that every time we see Martyr, shit's going down.
dan friesen
Yeah, by this point, Alex has become resigned to his fate.
I think that this guy is just going to do a poem.
And it's unfortunate when one of them is one he's done many times before.
But, you know, it's hard to get sponsors.
jordan holmes
Not everybody listens to the show every single day.
Not everybody is listening at every Marty appearance.
So it's brand new to somebody.
That's live radio.
dan friesen
Sure.
It's like Must See TV.
It's new to you if you didn't see it.
Rewrite.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So you were asking earlier about the idea if Marty is like this because he's on air or if he's always like this.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And I think he's always like this because he's trying to evolve the bit.
Like he's gone from like, I'm doing the same limerick.
I'm doing a little bit more limericks.
I'm now demanding that I end with a limerick.
And at a certain point, he introduces sound effects.
alex jones
And Marty, I heard you wrote us a poem.
I'm touched.
marty schachter
Yes, I did.
Are you ready?
alex jones
Yes.
marty schachter
Jones keeps on flowing with info that is growing.
So you've earned this short poem.
No like it.
You don't know him.
Alex, you're bliss itself.
You win, you touch all bases.
If you were packaged on a shelf, I'd buy 12 dozen cases.
Your rating is quadruple A. At Genesis, you're the most.
Business-wise, I've got to say, you are my favorite host.
alex jones
You're a sweetheart, Marty.
marty schachter
Wow.
unidentified
What a bad.
alex jones
Marty, thank you.
marty schachter
Thank you.
alex jones
Marty's now doing sound effects for us.
unidentified
It's so wonderful.
marty schachter
It's so hard to wonder.
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
Hey, Marty.
How'd you make that sound effect?
marty schachter
I got all these people here.
I got 2,000 people standing here listening to me.
alex jones
Listen, you're a sweetheart, Marty.
Always love talking to you, and take care, my friend.
marty schachter
Talk to you soon.
Thank you, Alex.
unidentified
Take care.
alex jones
Ah, Jay, that's a sweet old man right there, folks.
dan friesen
That is a sweet old man.
jordan holmes
Here's what I love about that.
I love, I love whenever you can audibly hear somebody go, no point in keeping this going.
Whenever he's like, hey, how did you do that sound effect?
And Marty gives that explanation.
He's like, hey, great to see you.
No follow-ups.
I don't want any more.
There's no way that continuing this line of thought is going to end well for me.
So we're done.
dan friesen
But meanwhile, you can also feel Marty want to continue to play.
Because he's like, oh, I've got this huge crowd here.
There's 2,000 people watching me.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's mix it up, buddy.
How do you feel about this crowd over here?
dan friesen
He is ambitious.
jordan holmes
He is.
dan friesen
He is a guy who's like, I fucking love soap.
I've made this soap company, but I am now allowed to be on a radio show.
I'm going to live my dream.
I'm going to make the most of it.
I'm going to fuck around.
jordan holmes
Yep.
It is hard not to believe that Marty truly lives in a completely different world than the rest of us.
And like, all of the stuff that normally bothers people just bounces off because this man cares about soap and limericks, and that's it.
dan friesen
The end.
And annoying Alex as part of a financial agreement.
jordan holmes
I love the confidence because that's not a poem that he found somewhere else.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That's not a limerick.
That's not a structured poem.
That is a free form.
I'll rhyme if I want to or I won't.
The meter is what I say it is or it's not.
The length of the stanza is however long.
unidentified
He wrote.
And then he said it out loud.
dan friesen
And I think there's a real brilliance to it in that he knew that this is talking about how great Alex is.
I think he's going to let me roll.
I think I can do it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're going to have a much more positive reception to your poems if one of them or the possibility of one of them is Alex is great.
Alex is great.
Alex, Alex, Alex, Alex is great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I think he had a real triumph there.
And unfortunately, this leads him to, much like Icarus, fly too close to the sun because he decides, Marty decides, that Alex's show needs a little bit of culture.
He needs to class this place up.
jordan holmes
Good.
dan friesen
And so instead of a limerick one day, he decides he's going to do a scene from Hamlet.
marty schachter
We are so appreciative of that.
It just makes our day and our week.
Marty.
unidentified
And our month.
marty schachter
Our year.
alex jones
Marty, go ahead and get into your Hamlet, and then we'll tell folks about the show.
marty schachter
I thought your show could use a little culture, so I want to offer a culture interlude.
Up in the Colorado Mountains, pile high, above Denver, is a castle.
Residing in the castle is His Majesty King Bates, his beautiful wife, Queen Bates, his lovely daughter, Princess Bates, and his teenage son, Master.
The king makes a proclamation and says, Today is Monday, and it's laundry day.
He calls his stepson, Hamlet, and says, Go to the market and secure a box of laundry detergents.
Now, Hamlet doesn't always listen to the king.
He is still pissed off because the king killed his father to marry his gorgeous mother.
This is a real soap opera.
So Hamlet goes up to his room, gets up on his pedestal.
All castles have pedestals, by the way, and shouts, Act 2, scene 1.
He's a fan of Shakespeare and also the Alex Jones show.
Act 2, Scene 1.
He proclaims to buy or not to buy.
That is the question.
Whether it is nobler in the home to suffer the perfumes and dyes of outrageous chemicals or purchase pure soap against this sea of pollution and by this acquisition end them.
To wash, to bathe much more, and by this real soap product say we end the falsehoods and a thousand unnatural corruptions that detergent is heir to.
Tis a consummation devoutly to be secured to buy pure soap, perchance to use.
Aye, there's the suds, for in the pleasure of ownership, what dreams may come when we have cleansed our mortal home must give us pause.
There's the respect that makes living of so long life enjoyable.
For must we bear the unrelented distaste of enzymes, the antibacterials, the bathtub stench, the pangs of extreme costs, the sodium chlorides, the insolence of detergents, and the deodorants that patient merit of the unworthy takes, when he himself might as quiet as make with an all-natural soap.
Who would that bear this cost to grunt and sweat under a life of perfumes?
But that the dread of this can change forever with the undiscovered wealth of the Cal Ben Soap Company no consumer could be without.
What puzzles the will is what makes us rather bear those expensive chemicals we buy.
Alex must talk to all others that know not of him.
Thus ignorance does make cowards of us all, and thus the Cal Ben Q of resolution is strengthened over with great soaps, design and enterprises of great quality and truth.
With this regard, their sales of current turn upward and gain the name of action.
Buy soap now.
Oh fair, oh strong, oh Jones, nymphs and thyorisons, be all my ads flow through thee.
unidentified
Yay!
alex jones
Oh my gosh.
Hear that?
marty schachter
Oh, hold on.
alex jones
Oh, they want to applaud again.
Here it is for you, Marty.
Another applause.
Marty, I don't think they're going to have Calvin Pure Soap in the FEMA camp.
marty schachter
Pardon?
alex jones
Oh, it's just, have you heard that Cheney has now announced himself above even executive orders and his own laws that he's been?
marty schachter
Oh, is this new?
I haven't heard that.
dan friesen
Is that new?
jordan holmes
Okay, I put this to you.
As you know, I have a weird feeling for power imbalances.
That was Alex demanding dominance back over his show.
dan friesen
One million percent.
He's like, I've got an applause clip.
I've got a better applause clip than I'm going to play for your old ass.
Except it goes so fucking long.
And Marty still has his own applause clip.
They have, yeah.
marty schachter
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Yes, totally.
That is a dominance play.
jordan holmes
That was amazing.
That was amazing.
At no point in time was I ever convinced he was going to do the whole thing.
And he still did it.
He did it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Amazing.
I mean, I'd heard it before, and I still was shocked every moment that it kept going.
And every time I looked at the progress bar, I was like, two minutes left.
Wow, this is a lot.
jordan holmes
I'll tell you this.
That is a man who appreciates and has participated in local theater.
Yes.
dan friesen
Maybe in World War II, he was doing theater for the troops.
Maybe that's what he was doing.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
And he did the whole thing about so he really just put the soap.
God, that guy loves soap more than love.
If you killed his father, that would be less offensive than if you fucked with soap instead of detergent.
You know what I mean?
dan friesen
He loves soap and performing.
Like, it's so, like, he's just a little, he's just a little guy who loves the spotlight.
He can't get enough of this.
I'm going to write a five-minute telling of Hamlet that's about soap.
jordan holmes
And I'm going to deliver it.
And I'm not going to just deliver it.
I'm going to act it and I'm going to act it hard.
I'm going to hit my, I'm going to hit my meter.
I'm going to hit my fucking stanza breaks.
I'm going to go for each little spot.
And at every point in time, people will know I hate detergent and I love soap.
dan friesen
And look, there's a part of me that feels like the line between this and like pretty fucking good alternative comedy in 2007, 2008, not very, it's not a very, it's pretty close.
jordan holmes
Right on.
Right on.
dan friesen
We're somebody doing a character on Alex's show.
Like, it's hilarious.
jordan holmes
Yep.
100%.
dan friesen
It's a sweet old man, though.
jordan holmes
Which makes it weirdly endearing.
I would love for it to be an underground, hard-edged comic who's doing a bit and who's really taking the piss out of Alex that it's an old man who truly loves local theater tanks makes me feel weird.
dan friesen
So he does a couple more really long Hamlet-like Shakespeare.
He does a Caesar one, and I just don't have the energy to listen to another five-minute thing, but it's pretty much the same thing.
It's very similar.
He does a few of these.
jordan holmes
Doing one of those is more like extortion than advertising.
That is too long.
That is like forcing somebody to be there against their will for too long.
dan friesen
And I think it pissed Alex off.
I think that there was probably a point where it came to be like, we're doing a show here.
You can't just, you can't do a monologue.
You can do a limerick, but you can't do a monologue.
So everything comes back to more reasonable length.
alex jones
Give me a limerick.
We only got 30 seconds.
marty schachter
Okay, then let me give you the limerick for today.
How we got the limerick going?
All right, I want you to write this down because it's important for your family.
alex jones
All right.
marty schachter
There once was an egg named Mabel who tried to stand across the table.
But her problem, you see, was solved.
One, two, three.
If you first sprinkle salt on the table.
alex jones
1-800-340-7091, 5-starsub.com.
Marty, you are a character.
We love you.
God bless.
dan friesen
So, sure, the egg on the table needs salt.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
All right, man.
jordan holmes
That's fine.
dan friesen
Sure, it is what it is.
But I started thinking about it maybe because I was bored with that limerick in particular.
I was like, his phone always seems to ring at certain times.
He's already shown himself to be capable of sound effects.
I think that's a sound effect.
jordan holmes
I pointed it.
I pointed at you so hard because I had that same thought.
When that phone rang, I was like, that sounds fake.
That sounds fake as shit.
There is no way this man is doing that fucking Hamlet speech and is also this busy.
dan friesen
It's very tough to imagine.
And it seems the phone does seem to ring at kind of opportune times.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I think maybe it's all fake.
And maybe this is some kind of real avant-garde art project.
jordan holmes
I would give anything to find out that that man does not sell soap.
I would give anything to find out that there's no soap company and he may be just like an eccentric billionaire who's living out some sort of weird role-playing fantasy that's been going on for a long time.
That would be amazing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He's just a lonely guy with disposable income who knows Ted Anderson and tricked Alex into thinking he has a soap company.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And it's just for him.
dan friesen
Or it's some guy who hangs out at Largo doing a bit that never paid off.
Like it never got revealed.
Yep.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I just had the thought of somebody having like a brilliant bit like this that is playing out in the background of everybody.
And there's a moment where it's going to be revealed and everybody's going to go ape shit.
But then they died first.
And so then there's just this historical missing bit that's out there that we'll maybe never find.
God, that's so sad.
That breaks my heart.
dan friesen
Well, that could be what we're uncovering, and we get all the credit.
So Alex's show, obviously, in the present day, deeply religious.
marty schachter
Yes.
Deeply.
dan friesen
But at the time, just kind of religious.
You know, in the late 2000s, not super.
jordan holmes
Peace can be on birth control.
dan friesen
Yeah.
We can do a limerick about Satan.
alex jones
As always, Marty, it's great having you on.
Give us a limerick.
marty schachter
Okay, this is way, way.
This is my most favorite limerick.
Very, very old.
God's plan made a hopeful beginning, but man spoiled his chances by sinning.
We trust that the story will end in God's glory, but at present, the other side's winning.
alex jones
Marty, or something else.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
The devil is winning.
unidentified
His favorite limerick is about how the devil's winning.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
I love that Alex totally expected there to be more to that.
He was clearly like, well, it doesn't end there.
It doesn't end there, right?
God wins in the end.
dan friesen
Got to be some assurance of God's victory.
No.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
We think that, but the devil's fucking winning.
jordan holmes
Hopefully, it all ends in God's glory.
But it turns out the rhyme requires the devil to be winning right now, unfortunately.
dan friesen
Shit looks bad right now.
jordan holmes
Sorry, the limerick rules apply.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this is what I feel marks the departure for Marty.
You know, we've had the era of testing the waters.
We've had the era of Shakespearean monologues.
And now he has declared that the devil is winning the battle of good and evil.
And I think he's just going to lean into it and start being a little bit dirty.
alex jones
Marty, it's always wonderful having you on with us.
Give us a limerick.
marty schachter
This is a very old one.
An accident really uncanny occurred to my elderly granny.
alex jones
She sat down in a chair while her false teeth lie there and bit herself right in the fanny five starsoap.com 1-800-340-7091.
At least get the sample tote bag.
dan friesen
At least get the tote bag, guys.
Come on.
So that's dirty, but it's at least a little bit.
It's public domain dirty.
You know, like in the UK, maybe fanny, that kind of language wouldn't fly.
jordan holmes
But here, well, that one actually goes back to Lincoln.
It was Lincoln who said that one.
So we know that that was mainly butt-related.
dan friesen
Yeah, false teeth bet the fanny.
Tom Tom.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
It's a little dirty.
It's untoward.
You're talking about butts.
jordan holmes
I just like that Alex had a genuine laugh after just the first two lines.
unidentified
He was genuinely like, ha, look at that granny.
jordan holmes
Ha, she's probably going to get hurt.
dan friesen
Oh, there's an accident that happens to an old person.
We're cooking with gas.
jordan holmes
He was laughing in anticipation.
What's going to happen to Granny?
I bet it's not good.
dan friesen
Well, he should know that it's a poem.
And what rides with Granny, Fanny?
He should see this bus coming from a ways away.
And yet he still seems a little bit caught off guard.
jordan holmes
He's very.
I don't know if he's ever seen the punchline coming.
I think Alex is a very strong, the punchline will always hit hard.
dan friesen
And that makes him a good audience.
So Marty is now emboldened, I think.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And he is full of just hubris to the point where I believe he is now doing bestiality-related.
marty schachter
Well, this I heard this last week on the radio from a major San Francisco station owned by Disney, and I immediately wrote it down because I wanted to share with you.
It starts like this: There was a young maiden named Myrtle who had an affair with a title with a swelling in her girdle, and her mother found out that Myrtle's turtle was fertile.
alex jones
Man, you're something else.
Marty, we'll talk to you soon.
Take care, my friend.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
So this lady fucked a turtle.
Yep.
What are we doing?
jordan holmes
Yep.
We're going to have a sad human-turtle hybrid with eyes.
That's what's going to happen.
This is where it all began, buddy.
dan friesen
What about the homeschool children that are listening to this?
This is no good.
Alex can't be having this kind of content.
This is obscene.
jordan holmes
This is the most 1940s World War II veteran that you can be.
I heard this thing, and I was like, I got to go write this down.
I got to go write this down.
There's no other way for me to hear a thing and then share it with you later.
I got to go write it down.
Amazing.
dan friesen
A Disney radio station had this filthy fucking poem about having sex with a turtle.
I got to write this down.
I got to tell Alex.
jordan holmes
Also, what a relationship.
Obviously, it's very one-sided.
It's very one-sided.
Alex is never out and about thinking, oh, I'll write that down and tell Marty later.
dan friesen
Yeah, if he hears a good limerick, he's not going to save it for his old buddy.
jordan holmes
No, but Marty, Marty is like going out just getting people little gifts.
I bet he goes out and he just stops out somewhere and he just goes, oh, this made me think of you.
And he bought it and then he gives it to you.
dan friesen
And it has nothing to do with you and it's fucking gross.
jordan holmes
Yep, absolutely.
I'll throw it away immediately.
You have purchased garbage for me, sir.
Thank you.
dan friesen
So the trend continues a little bit.
And there's a little bit, it's cheeky.
There's some cheeky stuff going on.
alex jones
Got about 60 seconds.
Give me a limerick.
marty schachter
A cute little babe from St. Paul wore a newspaper dress to a ball, but the dress caught on fire and burned her entire front page, sporting section and all.
alex jones
Oh, Marty.
dan friesen
Sporting section.
Marty.
jordan holmes
I'll tell you what, that one was disappointing.
That one was real disappointing.
dan friesen
Marty.
jordan holmes
Oh, Marty.
Oh, Marty.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But she had a newspaper dress and she burned her tits off.
jordan holmes
I think this, I think here's what happened.
All right.
First off, of all of his limericks and poems up to this point, this is the first one that had the correct meter and had the upward inflection at the end of the second line, which is very important.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
So it was going great.
It was going great.
Then the third line, short, boom, nailed it.
Then the fourth line.
unidentified
No, he ended in the middle of the phrase.
jordan holmes
So now the whole thing is run.
dan friesen
The whole thing is run.
I'm less tough on him from that standpoint.
I think that it's high art to refer to someone's body parts as their sporting section on Alex's show.
I think that that's quite a swing.
And Alex should not be thrilled with this.
This should be like, you're a fucking gross man.
I like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, what are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
As far as horrible things that old men have said about women goes, to me, at least, this is way low on the list.
dan friesen
True.
True.
But there's homeschooled kids listening, and Alex has a responsibility to teach them.
jordan holmes
Imagine if they go to school the next day and tell all of their classmates.
Oh, wait.
unidentified
No, they can't.
dan friesen
They could tell their mom.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's probably not a good recipe.
dan friesen
No.
So the next limerick we have is about a guy with a smelly ass.
marty schachter
Here's the limerick.
You ready?
alex jones
Yes.
marty schachter
There once was a man from Australia who painted his ass like a dagger.
The color was fine.
Likewise the design.
But the aroma, oh, that was a failure.
alex jones
All right, Marty Schachter.
Always good to have you.
Take care, buddy.
We'll talk to you again next month.
dan friesen
Thank you, Alex.
So I don't think Alex is thrilled with this.
The guy's ass stinks.
jordan holmes
All right.
I like that the content of the limerick seems very important to Alex as opposed to the turn or the concept of the joke being a thing.
It's very much like, oh, oh, Marty.
This one's no good.
Like, what are you doing?
dan friesen
And you get a feeling of like lowering action.
Like, he's starting, like, Alex is starting to feel like, oh, God.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Fucking sporting section.
Lady fucked a turtle.
This guy's ass smells.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
We're on the fourth layer of the pre-taped call-in show.
That's where we're at right now.
unidentified
I swear to God, I told you one more limerick.
dan friesen
So I have a theory that Alex had a little chat with Marty about these limericks about how they're dirty and how this is a family show.
There's homeschoolers listening, and it's Alex's job to teach them.
And so Marty comes back with what I would describe as a meta-limerick that is a limerick about his limericks and how they're clean.
marty schachter
Limerick for today is A limerick packed laughs anatomical into space that is quite economical.
But the good ones I've seen so seldom are clean, and the clean ones so seldom are comical.
For Alex, every line has been clean.
Not a word that's profane or obscene or spelled in four letters that might pain our bettors or snafu.
If you know what we mean.
alex jones
All right.
Marty, good heaven when you with us.
We'll talk to you again soon.
dan friesen
That feels in response to something.
That feels like half of a conversation where the first half is your limericks are dirty.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And he's saying in limerick form, Alex, all my shit's clean.
I don't use four-letter words.
This is all clean.
I've been so clean for you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it feels like this was a, I was brought into the principal's office and I heard what the principal had to say, and the principal didn't listen to me.
So I went home and I wrote a two-stanza limerick.
And when I tell the principal, they'll finally be on my side because the only way to fight fire with fire is with limericks.
dan friesen
And instead, the principal is even more fucking annoyed.
jordan holmes
Of course.
It's twice as long.
It's twice as long.
You could have done half of that and it would have been better.
It said you did two.
You could have just left the first one the implied response to mine.
You didn't have to make it an extemporaneous text.
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Marty's time is short after this.
I think that the difference of opinion between them about whether or not limericks are dirty or not is they just can't bridge that gap.
No amount of shared soap love or advertising dollars is going to work.
And so we have one last limerick from our friend Marty.
alex jones
All right, Marty, again, it's fivestarsub.com and give us today's limerick.
marty schachter
A skydiving couple named Lord decided on sex while they soared.
They got so excited while flying united, they never did pull the rip cord.
alex jones
Marty, that's a little racy, but that's your first racy one, so we'll let you get by with it.
God bless you.
We'll talk to you again soon.
marty schachter
Thank you.
dan friesen
Marty, Marty, little racy.
Talking about fucking on a plane.
Yeah, I can't let you get away with that one.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
Little racy.
Little racy, buddy.
Actually saying sex out loud?
People doing it?
dan friesen
Sex on a plane?
jordan holmes
That's racy.
dan friesen
What does it mean that they didn't pull the ripcord?
jordan holmes
It wasn't on a plane.
They were skydiving.
So they had jumped out of the plane.
dan friesen
No.
He said they were fucking on a united plane.
jordan holmes
No, They were united.
dan friesen
Ooh, let's listen to it again.
jordan holmes
Go for it.
alex jones
All right, Marty.
Again, it's fivestarsub.com and give us today's limerick.
marty schachter
A skydiving couple named Lord decided on sex while they soared.
They got so excited while flying united, they never did pull the rip cord.
alex jones
Marty, that's a little racy, but you're right.
dan friesen
You're right.
Flying United is not flying on a united airplane.
They were united as one, so they died.
Yeah.
Wow.
I didn't get that.
I thought they were just hitting a plane.
Pulling the ripcord, I thought was a metaphor.
See, I thought it was like they didn't bust or something like that.
Right, But no, no, they're dead.
They died because they did not pull their shoot because they were too distracted by the fucking that they knew they were going to be doing while skydiving.
jordan holmes
I love that the response to that is little racy.
dan friesen
Little racy.
jordan holmes
Of all the things that I could respond to that with, I feel like little racy isn't one of them.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it is a little racy.
jordan holmes
You know, no, no.
I'm with you.
I'm just saying that in terms of like, okay, if somebody just out and out says that to me, my first thought is, are you okay?
Is there something you need?
dan friesen
Right.
What if this person is selling you soap?
Then what?
Are you still worried for their welfare?
jordan holmes
I mean, I guess no.
I guess that makes him the perfect man to sell soap, really.
Like, if you were going to make a Willy Wonka but for soap, I don't think that he, I mean, like, a limerick guy would kind of fit.
dan friesen
Yes.
Now, I just thought of an ad campaign.
Okay.
So he's out there.
He's talking about like this lady fucked a turtle.
Then he was fertile and all this like really gross limericks.
jordan holmes
A lot of turtle fucking.
dan friesen
Right.
That's the before.
Then he washes his mouth out with soap.
Calvin pure soap.
jordan holmes
Oh, love it.
dan friesen
And he's.
unidentified
I love it.
dan friesen
He's doing like just very clean, family-friendly limericks.
We got an ad campaign here.
jordan holmes
You are just about to change your goddamn name to Dick Whitman, my friend, because you're a genius.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Imagine soap.
What is it?
It cleans your mouth.
jordan holmes
That's so weird because I was just reflecting earlier this morning.
Like, I had my mouth cleaned out with soap when I was a kid for swearing.
And nobody was like, this is dumb, right?
Everybody was like, no, it makes sense.
See, because it's dirty language.
So you clean it with soap.
It makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I remember the first time that happened in my life, I didn't know how to articulate it, but I was like, this is symbolic, right?
I didn't know how to say that as a kid, but there was a part of my brain that was like, I know this doesn't work.
This isn't doing anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is a, you're poisoning me as a punishment, right?
That's what we're, that's what's happening.
dan friesen
That's that soap tastes bad, right?
That's, that's what's happening.
Okay.
Great.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
So Marty is gone.
Marty, I don't know.
I don't know when he died.
I don't know if he's still with us, but he stopped appearing on Alex's show in about 2010.
And probably I like to believe, absent any other information, it's because of the trajectory that we have laid out here today.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
He got too big for his britches, started doing legitimate small-town theater on Alex's show, got scolded, started getting dirty, and then Alex had enough of it.
jordan holmes
I truly, I truly believe in my heart of hearts, and I don't care what the truth is, in my heart of hearts, Alex loves money so much, but Schachter's limericks were so bad that he had no choice but to go against everything that he believed in and say, I don't want your money.
I hate your limericks.
dan friesen
Well, I think that's part of it.
And then I think also, you know, we touched on when Alex brought in his own applause sound effect.
He was trying to dominate.
And I think this probably is a space that's so silly.
It's so whimsical.
And Marty does have a sense of humor.
Like, it's not great, but it's there.
jordan holmes
It's there.
dan friesen
And Alex can't, he can't entangle.
He can't get, he can't dance with it.
And he can't dominate that space.
Marty is a little, a little cherub running around that Alex can't understand.
He can't figure out how to best Mr. Mixelplicks.
jordan holmes
You know what it is?
He's got a segment.
That's what's happened.
Somehow, Schachter has just forced his way into being like, well, this is the Schachter five.
We're going to give Schachter five minutes every time he comes on.
And that's not how this goes.
You sponsor the show and then you get the fuck out.
You don't get your own little, like, here's what I'm challenged about today.
dan friesen
And I will yell about how great your soap is.
We'll do everything we can to sell your soap.
But yeah, you don't get your own corner.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
I think that once somebody can do that, people will stop liking Alex as much because they'll realize there's something more fun to listen to.
jordan holmes
Look at this silly old man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Why don't you give...
Here's the problem, though, right?
Is then the next step is, why don't you give him some more time?
We love silly old man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then out of nowhere, now you've got 20 minutes devoted to Schachter's limericks every damn episode.
dan friesen
And then Alex is just sponsoring the Shachter power hour and the poetry slam with Schachter.
Alex tries to write his own limericks to get in.
jordan holmes
Oh my God, I would love to see a dueling limerick between Alex and Marty Schachter.
dan friesen
I don't think he has no creativity.
It's such a low standard of creativity, and yet I think Alex doesn't clear that bar.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel like you should be able to bang out at least one limerick in a day.
You know, just spend some time on it.
Get three, four hours set aside, and then you can bang out a solid limerick.
I feel like that's what I'm saying.
dan friesen
What was that, Kanye?
Like seven beats a day for three summers?
But limericks.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly that, but limericks.
dan friesen
So yeah, I wanted to do this partially because like, you know, like I said, I wanted to give you a light day at the office.
But also, like, I've done some interviews and people have asked me, like, what do I want people to know about Alex Jones?
And it's such a nebulous question.
It's such a like, yeah, there's a lot of things that I'd like people to know.
Like, he is a racist and that kind of shit.
But there's something about this that is what I want people to know about Alex.
He's a fucking clown.
He is the kind of person who is doing a show about how the globalists are going to round everyone up in FEMA camps and take over the world and poison the vaccines and all this.
And the only way he can make money doing it is if an old dude tells dirty limericks on his show.
Like, that's who he is at his heart.
And so I like, it's a hard, it's a hard thing to put into words precisely.
unidentified
But if you get Shachter, you get everything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's an element of when other people see him, because he has got so many decades of effort put into this glitz, this show, this illusion around him, that it is very hard for people to see the truth, which is that this is a man fighting for dominance with the soap limerick guy.
dan friesen
And losing.
jordan holmes
And losing.
And losing, not even close.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I think that's important.
That's an important image that people keep in their mind.
Yeah.
So we are going to be off in Portland in the near future.
So I think I'm not sure when our next episode is going to come out.
jordan holmes
The immediate future.
We'll be off in Portland in the immediate future.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Very shortly from now.
dan friesen
We are doing a show on Friday there.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So I don't think we're going to have a Friday episode.
Right.
jordan holmes
Because we're also doing a show on Thursday.
dan friesen
Yeah, but we might be back on Monday.
I would like, if possible, to put the Thursday show out on Monday, but I'm not sure logistically if we'll be able to pull that off.
So we might be back next week.
Who knows?
We'll be back.
jordan holmes
We'll be obviously.
Listen, we're not going to run out now.
We're at 1100 odd.
We'll be back.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I'm just trying to warn people that it might not be on Friday.
We might, you know, hey.
jordan holmes
It might be tough to get one out on Friday.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But we'll see.
But whenever it is, I'll write a limerick for y'all and it'll be a lot of fun.
unidentified
But hey, Jordan, what fun?
dan friesen
We'll be back.
jordan holmes
A delight.
A delight.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we do.
It's knowledgefights.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
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