Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes dismantle Alex Jones’ shifting blame in #1090, exposing his 2013 Obama-era "National Security Investigation" claims as inconsistent—from vague "fake evidence" to dead figures like Larry McDonald. They mock his martyrdom narrative, Trump oil policy spin, and deposition evasions, calling his "crushing globalists" mission a deflection. Jones’ baseless theories about Charlie Kirk’s shooting—bullet angles, missing reports, Israeli/DNC cover-ups—reveal attention-seeking over substance, while his promotion of fringe figures like Fuentes and Owens highlights his struggle with credibility. Ultimately, the episode underscores Jones’ pattern of evasion, financial opportunism, and conspiracy-driven media strategy. [Automatically generated summary]
My bright spot is: I met my childhood best friend for lunch.
Yay.
He reached out and was like, ah, I exist.
And I was like, wow, me too.
We were alive at the same time.
And then we went and had lunch.
He's a great person.
Nice.
Which is cool because I was thinking about this afterwards.
I was like, considering where we're from, considering where the world is and how it's heading and how it changed while we were growing up, the chances are much higher for both of us to be horrible people.
So that the two of us worked out made me think maybe there was truly something of like when we were growing up, we influenced each other to keep us from being pieces of shit later on in life.
So, first, from the king of cats, forget the frogs, stepdad to my bisexual roommate's bisexual cat who gets bullied by my girlfriend, my girl Yannefer.
So that answer that Alex gives is interesting, I think, on two fronts.
The first is that he's saying that the courts claim that he failed to turn over evidence with no proof.
He's arguing that they insisted that Alex held a piece of evidence that he wasn't giving them.
But in reality, this evidence didn't exist.
They were demanding him turn over something that wasn't real.
So this is essentially a trap that he got put into.
In a situation like this, it's very difficult to prove that someone's withholding evidence without knowing what that evidence is.
In Alex's case, though, the court absolutely knows that he withheld evidence because his lawyer accidentally sent the plaintiff's lawyers in Texas part of Alex's phone records.
In Discovery, Alex was required to turn over all communications that he had that mentioned a ton of key terms, including Sandy Hook.
And he turned over a bunch of stuff, but it appeared incomplete.
When his text messages were accidentally sent to the lawyers, there was one where Paul Joseph Watson was warning him that this COVID stuff that he was doing was, quote, Sandy Hook all over again, which should have been turned over in Discovery.
The fact that this text wasn't produced in Discovery irrefutably proves that there was material that Alex was required to turn over to the court that he did not.
There is rock-solid proof that he didn't comply fully and appropriately with Discovery.
So when he's saying that they say I didn't turn over everything with no evidence, it's so often very easy to make that argument.
So this is about some FOIA documents that came out recently that showed that the FBI was assessing, quote, white racially motivated extremists in 2013.
It says nothing about Alex.
It's just kind of understood by all these media figures that he is a white identity extremist.
So this must have been Obama trying to crush him.
I can say this with no uncertainty.
If Clinton, Obama, or Biden were half as inclined toward dictatorship as Trump is, Alex would be in prison right now.
He has committed crimes, and the only thing that's protected him is that his enemies believe in upholding the traditions and protections that our legal system affords.
He is living free because other people believe in the rules that he pretends to care about.
Yeah, yeah, I know it would be a tough sell, but it would be something where I would consider it much more cleanly if Obama had been like, guys, listen, I get it, but I'm just going to take this one off the board.
This one's me.
I'm just going to take this one off the board.
Come what may.
I think it makes more sense than to go through all of your bullshit.
But you know what?
Chess is the way it is.
Bye.
You know, I would have been able to accept more of that argument.
Well, I think one of the issues that Alex has is he has to stay pretty vague on this because I do think that if he were to say that the lawyers introduced fake evidence and use a specific, they would fuck him.
So Alex rants a little bit here about his forefathers and all of these intellectuals that used to come on his show and coached him and taught him about life.
The sick, beautiful irony of this is, even if you guys kill me or put me in prison or whatever you do, you can't stop a signal because now Alex Jones is everywhere.
It's like Spartacus.
We're all Alex Jones now.
Okay.
And the truth is, I only popularized what the former head of the FBI in Los Angeles taught me, what the former head of Air Force Weapons Development taught me, what my uncle, who was in black ops all over Central South America, Iran, contrary, you name that, Southeast Asia before that, everything he taught me.
Everything that all these amazing people taught me when I was a child and a teenager and then an adult.
So the truth is, I didn't discover all this.
I didn't, I know.
I simply got on air when I was 19 and already had the background and then was able to get syndicated and successful by the time I was 21.
And then I got to be interfaced with all the top brains, the Anthony Suttons that ran the Frank Church committee hearings on the deep state.
All of them, the G. Ember Griffins, the Ron Pauls, all of them, all of them, all the inside experts from Reagan, all the head of the Department of Education, Charlotte Isaby.
I got to sit there with thousands of all the best people we've got seven days a week, interviewing them, researching, traveling, being sent documents by them.
And that's why, that's why I've been proven right.
Because all I did was take what all these people that didn't have media and were doing conferences and writing books and trying to warn people and going to Congress and trying to get them to listen.
That Congressman Larry McDonald, the Democrat who was super hardcore and was going to win the presidency, so they killed his ass.
You know, the John Birch Society, William F. Jasper, all these people.
So I stood on their shoulders, but I was able to take this giant brain trust and put it out in an interesting, I guess, entertaining way.
I wasn't trying to, but that's just how it happened.
So what about the visions from God that Alex got as a child?
Like, what about his gift of prophecy and all the dreams that tell him the future?
I get that Alex wants to make it sound like he comes from a serious line of thinkers and all that, but he just ranted for two minutes about what makes him important.
And there's not a single word about God.
It's almost as if he has a sense that Sean's brand is a little more in the Rogan space than the Tucker space, where it might be a little embarrassing for him to just let Alex make himself the Messiah on this show.
If you were like, God chose me as a child to lead the resistance against the devil, your trainer might be like, hey, man, what the fuck are you talking about?
There's no way Alex said Larry McDonald on his show because that dude died in 1983.
McDonald was on a Korean airlines flight to South Korea that was shot down when it entered Soviet airspace.
And because he was a die-hard anti-communist, a John Birch Society guy, it became part of an elaborate conspiracy.
Incidentally, Larry McDonald also ran his own intelligence company called Western Goals.
An article about it in Politico quotes one of its former employees, Mary Joe Buckland, as saying, quote, a lot of funding came from Germany, more than what came from the United States.
A lot of it was kept from us.
The Germans were all a lot of medals and they had a lot of money.
The Germany people never came to the United States.
They would fly Western Goals accountant to Germany.
I mean, I loved in Connecticut when he goes, you know, you know about the Godfather?
You know the movie, The Mafia?
I'm like, yeah, Mario Puzzo's, you know.
I'm like, that's a great story about.
He was going to go speak at a college, Mario Puzzo, who'd never written anything, never done anything, and he just hung around as Italian in New York and actually knew all the real mobs.
So he put a fiction thing on him, actually with real people.
He just changed the names.
It's actually a documentary, literally.
And he writes it, and he's going to go speak at a top college on top college screenwriting.
So this is fun, but Alex doesn't realize what his actual appeal is.
If he has to sell Infowars and go work for somebody else, it pierces the entire premise that his career is based on, which is that he's totally free.
He's his own man, and no one can tell him what to do because he runs the whole thing.
If he closes up shop and goes to work for Bigley, then he can get fired.
Bigley obviously supports the political ideology that he pushes, but they're first and foremost a money-making operation.
They sell shit.
And if he does something that makes it impossible for them to make money selling shit, he's no longer worth employing.
Alex can take on this posture that he doesn't need to be flashy and living a ritzy lifestyle.
And that's fair enough.
I do think that he would accept a certain amount of diminished luxury and continue doing what he's doing.
But this isn't about that.
It's about his soul and being free.
At InfoWars, Alex is free because it's a one-talent business built entirely around him.
If he wants to get drunk and cry about demons on his show, no one can stop him.
If he wants to pretend that an Ebola outbreak is about to happen in Denver, no one can stop him.
If he wants to continue to harass the Sandy Hook plaintiffs and cover new stories in ways that mirror how he behaved to get those lawsuits started in the first place, no one can stop him.
But Bigley isn't a one-talent business.
They may like Alex and see a profit in him, but they run stores for tons of shitheads in the right-wing media and they don't need Alex.
The audience may not immediately understand this, but the idea that Alex is an employee of someone else's thing will become a problem for them.
In the back of their minds, the audience gets that in order for Alex to make money, he can't own any business ever again.
And that makes his position vulnerable.
Bigley may be better than him going to work for like Fox News, but ultimately it's not that different.
He's giving up his independence and putting himself in a position where corporate interests can very easily exert pressure on his content or fire him.
So all this talk about victory and all this bluster is fine.
And I'm sure it feels good to do these rants and talk about Mario Puzzo.
But underneath this, Alex almost certainly knows that it's not just a website or studio he's giving up.
There's no way to either reveal that everybody already knew that you were doing what you were told from, you know, Trump or whatever it is, and they didn't, and they don't care that you work for somebody else now, or you are revealing that even though you quote unquote work for somebody else, it's a bullshit arrangement and you should have all of your shit stolen from you again, right?
I genuinely, and I've been wrong some and gotten things wrong.
I had people on it were wrong, but never intentionally.
I see a lot of people just jumping on bandwagons because the public has woken up to their being lied to, but they haven't woken up to exactly what's going on.
So just because you got the general public that wasn't awake yet, it's kind of like there's a fire alarm.
You wake up, you don't know where the fire is.
You're kind of like in the dark.
So you got to flip the light on and get your bearings.
So we have the Great Awakening happening.
It's part of the fourth turning.
It was predicted decades ago.
It's here.
But you got a lot of people now that don't have enough depth or sophistication or context.
And I see what they're doing.
And they will just jump on things just because they know it's clickbait.
And Whereas the globalists lie in the seed for their power and control, there's an organization to that, and it's still very destructive.
But because they've been proven to be liars, now Hillary Clinton could walk out in a blue sky day and say the sky is blue, and people wouldn't believe her.
And so then there's also a danger that people then think everything's a lie, everything's a conspiracy, everything's a scam.
And then I get to hear, oh, you're the guy who thinks the earth's flat, or you're the guy that thinks reptoids really run things.
And how dare people try to associate Alex with such silly ideas?
He only covers the real, hard-hitting, not disputable facts, like how God gave him 200 prophetic dreams about Gene Hackman in the year before his death, and Alex just ignored them for some reason.
Or how God tells Alex what time it is in the middle of the night so he can prove that it's God talking when he tells Alex that he needs to slow down on the booze.
He's not lying to the audience because truth is irrelevant to how a headline can be used in order to push what he thinks is a larger, more important truth, which is that white Christian men should hold all the power in society.
Yeah.
And so I think in service of that larger truth, he allows himself to lie or imagines that God has given him permission.
Yeah, I would say that, like, whenever he says those types of words, I think he's more meaning it in like a, this is a successful decision or a failure decision based upon how much money or influence I received from it.
Right.
So yeah, I've gotten some things wrong because people got mad at me and didn't give me more stuff afterwards.
Not by deception, not by theft, not by lies, but by election and by example and by quality, whether it's in businesses, corporations, everything is a vote in this world.
And we have to hang our shingle out and we have to advertise that we are superior to these globalists and we want prosperity and goodwill.
And Trump definitely wants that.
He's definitely for a renaissance.
I mean, you saw what he did two weeks ago.
He pressured Saudi Arabia to basically double oil output.
No one's ever done that.
Now think, people.
He's got us as the number one producer in the world.
We're number three under Obama.
He cut it off.
Cranks us up to number one, beating Saudi Arabia.
And then Biden comes in, prices double, which is the ultimate tax on people's energy cost.
And then Trump skyrockets it back in just a few months to number one producer again.
And then he tells U.S. oil companies, I want you to work even harder to cut prices.
And then he goes to Saudi Arabia and says, I want to help the whole world.
So you know this is going to hurt U.S. oil producers.
The whole world's connected, which is true.
I want to lower energy prices for everybody because this is a global problem.
And my economists explained that to him.
He already knew it.
So he got the Saudis who they went.
Actually, you're right.
Everybody collapses.
We're screwed.
So they did the biggest increase in oil production ever.
Wow.
Now that is how you fight inflation is the base level.
So the Saudi government did agree to increase their oil production in the last months of 2025, but part of that agreement was also to not increase in the first quarter of 2026.
A lot of this does have the optics of a win for Trump, but the larger picture here is that OPEC understands that Russian oil companies are under sanctions.
So raising production is a move that's designed not necessarily to lower prices, but to be more stabilizing on the supply end of the supply and demand.
A lot of experts view it as a kind of risky move, but one that's not very surprising.
More to the point, though, shouldn't Alex think this is the government getting involved in price fixing for commodities?
I feel like everything about his political ideology should be against the federal government getting another country to change its energy policy in order to manipulate prices.
This isn't the free market that Alex loves and yells about being so important all the time.
Yeah, with these types of things, it's when you know that you're so starved for a victory that what is actually a huge, horrible loss, because in the moment seems like you've got a big fist up in the air, you call it a victory anyways.
Like there's no situation where in the long term, Trump has done the country good.
You know, like this is just a couple of days for him to go, oh, look at how great I am.
Yeah, I mean, it is wild to consider that part of the decision making for a government like the United States is includes what can I make us look good about tomorrow on the paper.
So Alex in 1999 might have been willing to do this shit for free and live under a bridge.
But hearing him say this in 2025 is a little much.
It's important to understand that the reason that he set up these fake companies like Dr. Jones Naturals and the Alex Jones Network are to make sure that he can still profit from his very easy job.
If he really didn't care about being poor or living under a bridge, then he wouldn't be doing everything he can to protect his assets and wealth from the bankruptcy, up to and including giving away his autonomy.
Yeah, Alex can say that he would do this for free and that he would live under a bridge if it meant that he could get the truth out, but his actions are all in service of making sure that he's able to maintain his wealth and doesn't have to resort to some kind of harder job than being a guy who yells and makes shit up to piss people off.
And I'm pretending that I'm so committed to the fight and being this person that I am that I would suffer the you know, like living under a bridge in order to stay that.
Would they be harder to answer because they would be more incomprehensible, or would they be easier to answer because they would be as easy to understand as he could?
Well, I pledged to do it, and they want the name to misrepresent act like they're me and a bunch of other harassment, which is fine.
And when I say I'm going to fight and support the listeners, they buy so much product at the authorshore.com and support us that I was 100% not pulling punches.
I was fighting as hard as I could.
But then there's something when you know you've been in a rigged game like the movie Gladiator, but you still get them at the end.
This is their defeat, and we're only going to get bigger out of this.
And now they can target me all day instead of targeting my organization, trying to shut it down.
And then now the money can go not to legal most of it, but to new crew and more hosts and going like basically 24 hours a day, at least 20 hours a day.
So, yeah, I'm excited in that I fought the fought, left it on the field, you know, exposed them, won the court of public opinion, and now they basically, I got a tug of war, think they pulled something out of my mouth and run away with it.
I know it's a lipstick of dynamite.
To paraphrase, but you went down to the bottom of the bottom.
Well, maybe like some of the things you say when we're exercising or hiking, maybe there's something that you've let me in on and you are not giving any of it.
I think at this point, it would probably be best for Alex to not even bring up Epstein anymore.
His actions have thoroughly demonstrated to anyone paying attention that he does not care about the actual crimes that were committed, and it's all just a prop that he uses to attack his enemies.
So the less attention brought to it now, the better.
He's taking a victory lap for bringing up Clinton and Epstein in his deposition many years ago, but seems uninterested in holding Trump in any way accountable for the very obvious connections that he has with the guy.
By continuing to pretend to care about this when it involves Clinton, but giving Trump a full pass on it, you run the risk of the audience catching on that you really don't care about crimes against children.
You're just happy to exploit people's revulsion about the subject for profit, and you kind of look like a real asshole.
And I don't think it's fair personally to be Alex Jones having gone through the verbal Lashings, the exanguination via word that he's gone through to then be like, these stupid guys, here's how I zinged them.
I would, I, I, and, and, God, I mean, obviously we don't get any ad revenue from anything, but like if some platform was inserting commercials on our shit, I would hope someone would tell us so I could like address that.
I mean, like, if I were creating the show like this, I would feel really bad about this being the product.
Like, I understand you've got to insert the ads wherever they go.
Because I don't want to be too much of one of those guys.
But there is just a craft to making a show, man.
Like, if you're not interested in making a good show, if you're not even interested in asking people who make good shows, like, hey, should I cut off things mid-word?
If part of your process for making a show is understanding and accepting the possibility that a passionate rant that Alex is in the middle of could get cut off by a commercial, I think you don't care about the product.
Well, when I was up at Tucker's last Monday in Maine, he was going to dinner that night about to jump on a jet up to Maine over to D.C. to have dinner with the vice president and with Charlie's widow, Erica Kirk.
And I was talking about all these things with him and he said, well, the way Kash Patel and them haven't been releasing more videos and more documents and putting their narrative out, he's talked to him and Mongino, and they're like, well, we don't want to give the case up.
And Tucker's been his first job as a crime reporter.
He goes, you guys always put out the narrative of what's there.
That's not true.
And he said, that's what's generating all of this.
And, you know, he literally just had.
Did he tell me that?
Was that off-record?
God, they tell you so much stuff.
I better just not say it.
But the point is, Tucker's dialed into everything.
I mean, I mean, everything.
A little more than meets the eye with that guy.
So he's like the secret.
I mean, this is known out.
He's like the secret U.S. ambassador of the world.
No, and it also, like, I don't know the extent to which I believe this.
But if you're someone like Alex who is distrustful of power, and you have a guy who has a weird media show, and he also is the ambassador to the world, a lot of power carrying secret messages to world leaders on behalf of the president of the United States.
You know, if you were carrying secret messages from the president, a notoriously elderly man who says and talks a lot of shit that he doesn't mean and won't take back or will take back at a moment's notice, maybe you think I could change some of the words to what I want them to be.
But I think more realistically, if you're this guy, if you're Tucker, and like Alex is doing an interview on his trainer's podcast where he reveals that you tell him a bunch of stuff that maybe he can't repeat publicly, maybe you stop telling him stuff.
I mean, I have to tell you, the implication is, and I've heard this, and I want to be very clear.
People have a right to say this.
Just like I had a right to say what I wanted about Sandy Hook, I just didn't even say the things they said I said.
It's a First Amendment.
Okay?
So what you're getting at, and let's just say it, is what now five weeks into this, what people are telling me two weeks into it, all these Green Berets, Delta Force, sniper experts, medics, unless they release the HD and we see a bunch of blood on the ground, and I'm sure that's the case, and other stuff going on here, they're saying Charlie Kirk didn't get killed.
And that's what all this builds towards.
I believe he got shot from a higher angle.
I was the first to get the information from the head of TPUSA because he put out a little bit and he called me when I said it sounded crazy that the 30 odd six didn't go through.
He said, no, it came down from an angle, went down his vertebrates, bounced back up.
Shrapnel, that's now been said by the doctor.
And they say they're going to release it at the end of the month.
The autopsy, that better happened.
So I'm giving the benefit of the doubt.
I don't think the doctor's lying.
I don't think Charlie Kirk's best buddy's lying.
And all of this, though.
But people have a right to say the moon's made of cheese.
People have a right to say, you know, that didn't happen.
That's an American right.
And you brought this up to me.
You don't believe it.
There's got to be some other explanations.
But what you and I, what you said to me two, three weeks ago is what during the breaks when I'm talking to these green berets and all these guys are like, you're like, man, it just, you know, if they don't release that HD or at least, you know, show it because if there's not blood down there and it's just a squib pack, because that's how they do it in stunts, is it pops and then pops the back of the movie to make it look like it's real.
I mean, you could, if you've got him already on the we can kill you tip, right, but then pick a better time for it.
There's, I mean, I'm not saying he's not a murderer, but it didn't feel like there was that much to change the world with in July or whatever, you know?
Sure, it was deeply traumatic, and some like professors lost their jobs and shit, but well, yeah, I don't, I just, I don't, I get the sense that this is what happens when you talk to a conspiracy theorist's trainer.
Well, listen, when something like this happens, you have to look at what are the possibilities of the actual motive and who did this.
In my opinion, it's like, okay, option number one, what they're telling us is absolutely correct.
It was Tyler Robinson.
He shot him from the roof, and everything else is just weird.
The second option is there was a second gunman, and maybe they used Tyler as a decoy, and we're kind of seeing what looks to be, I mean, to me, it looks like they're covering something up, and I don't quite know why.
I don't know why they took the narrative and ran with that so quickly.
I don't know why Erica Kirk was giving Tyler forgiveness so quickly after the investigation was still ongoing.
Why are you giving forgiveness to somebody that just killed your husband and you don't even know if he's the actual guy?
So I feel like this is a really good encapsulation of how Alex likes to do business.
He talks to a person who's willing to say some crazy shit, and then if the audience is into it and it drives traffic and sales, it slowly becomes the InfoWars position while Alex pretends to have not endorsed these ideas himself.
Sean is painfully uninteresting in this interview, and this anomaly that he comes up with is idiotic.
Erica was forgiving the guy who killed her husband because that was what she was required to do to perform the character of a saintly Christian, which is the brand that she's inherited from Charlie.
Sean is acting like there needs to be a conviction in the courts before you forgive someone, which is fucking dumb.
If this is part of your group of arguments why you think maybe Charlie's death was fake, you are grasping at straws.
The last option, and there's only one option that answers every single question mark that all of these influencers have that are floating out all of these theories and all these video angles and everything.
If the families of turning point workers like Erica Kirk get harassed by people who have been incited by Sean's coverage of the shooting, then they should be able to take legal action against him.
He's not just playing around with interesting ideas.
The interesting ideas he's throwing around require that Erica Kirk be involved in gigantic crimes.
These aren't just theories.
They're also accusations.
And that's the piece of this that folks like Alex have worked so hard to obscure.
It's like a fully, it's like they isolate this incident so that this incident can be analyzed and all of these theories can be made, but these theories cannot have any effect on the larger world, despite the fact that this incident only exists because of its relationship to the larger world.
The consumers of this media would be wise to ask themselves: at what point do questions demand answers, and at what point are they not really questions?
The game that Alex and Sean engage in is pretending to be asking questions that demand immediate answers, but the answer that satisfies their question and gets them to say, well, that explains that, that doesn't exist.
If the police don't release the confession, then that's suspicious.
If they release the confession, why did it take so long?
If you say it's the First Amendment, you have to say the entire First Amendment.
That is now a rule.
That's a law.
I'm not going to restrict your free speech.
You can say First Amendment all you want, but if you say First Amendment, you have to say, for the government shall not make a law infringing upon the right for people.
Well, she was in a sort of social media for women.
And then the liberals wanted to get control of it.
So they were false flagging her, threatening her, like white supremacist stuff, but it was the women in the group doing it.
So that's kind of how she woke up as a liberal because they were like Jesse Smolletting her.
They were staging stuff.
So, and my lawyer, Norm Pattis from Sandy Hook, up in Connecticut, where she's from, he actually represented her and got her a big settlement where she did go through racist stuff in high school stuff.
So one of the things that's really great about Alex is that, you know, you have people like Candace Owens saying that the murder was an Israel hit job.
Okay, but there's all sorts of groups and organizations like that, but I don't sit there at night jacking off like, I hate the Jews.
You know, that stuff just gets really old.
So, well, that's what a lot of these guys that hate them do.
I mean, they literally, look, maybe I have an allergy to it because I've been on here 30 years plus.
And I was on here just a few months.
And like, I'd have guys come down the studio and go, you're talking about the new world order, but you know, it's the Jews.
And here's some pamphlets.
We want to come on your show.
They'd be up there the next week.
I've been on here like a month, 31 years ago.
They're like, I noticed you didn't call me back.
I guess you work for the Jews.
And my friend, I was like, no, I hadn't read the stuff yet.
I was like in the back of my car.
I'm like, yeah, Joe's is kind of a Jewish name.
We'll be watching you, boy.
So my first experience was like, these people are like, just, I was like, whoa, they're the worst ambassadors there are because they're the little club that's good, and everyone else is not pure.
I think that what he's describing about this Nazi that he interacted with a month into his career is literally exactly the same thing that happened with Nick.
You know, for me, Candace can, you know, talk about how she thinks Israel did it.
And that's the big popular thing to think.
And I think she really believes that.
It's kind of like, you know, those ink blocks where you kind of see what you want in it.
And I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that a weird RNC alliance that wanted control of the group because it was bigger than the RNC now and bigger than CPAC with Israel, you know, didn't use Israeli operatives because they're very competent assassination to do it.
That's a possibility, pure speculation.
The DNC knows he got two and a half million people to vote for Trump was the reason he won.
And they're the ones calling for him to die, celebrating when he died.
And then you got all these other transifa, trans antifa out blasting people every week and you know shooting up.
I saw him like, I'm like, yeah, DNC, RNC, Israel alliance.
You actually don't have to engage in rampant, idiotic speculation about every event that happens, desperately chasing clicks and attention.
If you really think that it's possible that all these different groups could have been involved in an elaborate assassination plot against Charlie, then you have no evidence about any of it because you sure as shit haven't ruled out any of these suspects.
I mean, it's exactly what Alex was saying earlier.
No one believes anything anymore.
There's yeah, and I think that one of the things that's really shocking too is that like I don't think that Charlie Kirk's assassination was that hard to pull off.
And I think that that is, I hate to say a silver lining of this event, but it is kind of like, well, this would be happening a lot more if the world that Alex lives in was the real world.
And like the bottom line, I feel with this kind of interview and this tone is like Alex is coming up with fun, fanciful things to be like, well, maybe they did it.
If speculating about nonsense and making shit up were the only way that I could make money, then I would say that maybe the Chinese or maybe the Trans Antifa gone to my head.
Whereas with the other side, every single underling, everything they do is Obama's fault.
Everything is Clinton's fault.
Clinton actually orchestrated all of these little downstream decisions and everything.
And I think that some of the more like newer wave conspiracy folks, they don't buy into that same old right-wing mentality of protecting where the buck stops.
Yeah, I mean, I think in our lifetime, I can only point to examples of them essentially circling the wagons, being like, listen, sure, we've yelled about this for a while, but now that we know we're not going to get any traction with this, we're just going to pretend it didn't happen.
We're just going to move on like, bah, ba, ba, ba, bay.
Yeah, sure.
They caught this guy doing whatever.
Didn't happen.
We're moving on, you know, because we've already agreed that we're going to let Trump off the hook for it.
So if we've already done that, then let's not like pick it a scab.
And I think that There's, I don't know exactly how it plays out because I think that people who are willing to call out the hub of power or whatever and not be like, well, let's blame the scapegoat.
I mean, that's, I think that's probably the, if, if, if we had, let's say, a fair marketplace of ideas, I think maybe Sean Johnson's point of view would get more traction overall.
But since the overwhelming money can put its put a hand on the scale to like, hey, Trump gets to do whatever he wants.
Yeah, but the problem is like the marketplace of ideas, like if it were just like a free and open marketplace, like the guy who's like, no, we still need to blame Trump is also the guy who's like, I don't know.
I think Charlie Kirk's assassination might have been faked.
I think that's probably because we're downstream of those guys already.
You know what I mean?
Like, if we had gone back to a place before where they have poisoned us all in this horrible well of bullshit, then maybe we would have Sean Johnson be like, you know, I have questions about regular government.