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#1072: August 15, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan take a short walk through Infowars coverage of the most important issues of the day, like martial law, foreign wars, and raffled trucks. Tickets now available for our Portland show here

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dan friesen
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jordan holmes
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alex jones
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chase geiser
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unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
It's time to pray.
Andy and Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello Alex.
I'm a fish fan.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love you.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
Knowledge Fight dot com dot I love you.
dan friesen
Hey everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple of dudes.
Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Joe.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
unidentified
Jordan.
alex jones
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
So, which bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
Why don't you go first?
jordan holmes
My bright spot today is I watched, or I think I rewatched Ricky J Jay and his 52 assistants.
dan friesen
Mm, the cards.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Deck of cards.
jordan holmes
It's a legendary, like, magic show, but it's not a magic, it's like, um, it's a one man show, in a way, you know?
dan friesen
With magic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
It's like the difference between, you know, like Daniel Schar's show is not a stand-up comedy show.
It's very funny.
dan friesen
It's a one man show.
jordan holmes
It's a one man show.
dan friesen
There's something, there's an element that separates the two of them from being just like a Yeah, one person shows are more, they have like a bit more monology and a structure.
unidentified
Totally.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
There's a complete story within it.
And this is one of the, like, this is a legendary show.
It's very special for that reason.
It's got history.
It's got, I mean, it's just, it's just magical.
And he can also throw a card into a watermelon.
And that's pretty fucking cool.
dan friesen
You're proud to call it magical?
jordan holmes
I am proud to call it magical.
I attend all my puns with gusto.
dan friesen
I don't know if I have seen that myself, but I know that I've seen a fair amount of Ricky J stuff in my life.
And he's always, he's always fun to see pop up in a movie.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's also one of those guys where you're like, hey, that's that guy.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And he's one of the great.
It's so, it's so like this combination, not of that regular pitter patter of like, hey, I'm going to do some magic for you.
It's like, in 14:55 there was that, you know, it's just fantastic.
It's great.
dan friesen
I'll check it out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would recommend it to all.
dan friesen
Cool.
jordan holmes
What about your bright spot?
dan friesen
Well, I thought your bright spot was going to be that tickets are on sale on Monday for our show in Portland.
jordan holmes
Tickets are on sale today while you're listening to this in Portland.
dan friesen
I thought that was going to be your bright spot, so I queued you up to go first.
But then you didn't do it, so I should now take that as yours.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But I unfortunately have another bright spot.
jordan holmes
Awesome.
Then we have a combined bright spot at the end of our separateate bright spot.
dan friesen
Hold on to that.
jordan holmes
Oh, I don't know what it is yet.
dan friesen
It's going to blow people's minds.
So my bright spot is I really liked that name, formulaic confections.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think we all did.
dan friesen
And so I I have brought in a snack.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
Oh, no, it's happening.
dan friesen
This is a snack that I saw in the store.
jordan holmes
Whoa, those are Utz.
dan friesen
Yeah, they're Utz.
jordan holmes
They're Utz.
They're not chips.
Oh my God.
And there's a.
It's lemonade?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I texted some friends about having bought this.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I sent a picture.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And they all responded, what are they?
are they like?
And I realized that I was staring at the bag of.
I was afraid to try them because this is such a crazy potato chip flavor.
Lemonade?
What?
jordan holmes
They even look like lemon.
The chips now have, have taken on the appearance of lemons.
dan friesen
Well, to be fair, they're yellow to begin with.
jordan holmes
No, I understand, but that's my perception.
dan friesen
I'm going to try this.
I guess you're going to try it too.
Please try not to chew on the mic.
I'm a bit sensitive to you go first.
jordan holmes
This is your, this is your whole bit.
I'll do a little bit of vamping so you don't chew on the mic and there's still something to listen to.
From your face, I can say right now we are getting not a negative reaction, not a like.
It's a negative reaction, not a like, eww.
dan friesen
No, I'm shocked.
jordan holmes
You're shocked.
dan friesen
I'm shocked.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, yeah.
Well, you describe it, I'll take my own bite.
dan friesen
There's a fair amount of tartness to it, but it's not overt.
Because, like, I think tart in a potato chip often comes off as vinegar.
And so I think that a little bit of a sourness that this is able to convey really works for a potato chip.
And I don't think lemon is that unwelcome.
No, I'm shocked.
jordan holmes
I completely agree with you.
dan friesen
I'm blown away by this.
jordan holmes
I kind of like that.
dan friesen
That is good.
jordan holmes
There is, so here's the thing that I think I immediately react to is the lemonade is going to be overpowering and a chip is not the way to deliver the lemonade flavor.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, I was worried about that.
That was exactly what I thought.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, but this seems to be like a chip that allowed lemonade to be nearby and then gives it a little bit extra, ooh.
dan friesen
Yeah, I was kind of worried that it would just be like, oh, there's a dusting of like country time.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, like a Doritos lemonade is the most horrifying thing I can think of.
dan friesen
Yeah, but that's balanced.
jordan holmes
No, that's really good actually.
dan friesen
Damn it, Ux.
jordan holmes
I could eat it.
I could eat it, yeah.
Wow.
dan friesen
Holy cry.
jordan holmes
Jason is out of control.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
I was excited to try that as we were recording because I didn't know have bet money that it was going to turn into we both think it's pretty good.
jordan holmes
I would have been fine if one of us thought it was okay and the other was like, I don't like this, but this is wild.
Yeah.
This is a quality chip.
dan friesen
Unprecedented.
Unprecedented.
So we have a joint bright spot and that is the tickets are available.
jordan holmes
The tickets are available.
dan friesen
The link is in the web theater december 19th in Portland.
And yeah, description.
And click on that should be live Monday midnight right away.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
With some time zone for you.
jordan holmes
Pretty much when you're listening to this, it will be available for you to click on.
If you're worried that I don't know, we we probably listen.
I'm not going to say anything.
Go buy tickets.
dan friesen
Sure.
So today we have an episode to go over, but it's going to be a little short, shorty.
We're going to talk short.
jordan holmes
We're going to talk shorty?
dan friesen
Well, we're going to talk about August 15, 2025.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I just I was wrestling with, hey, it's Labor Day.
There's a part of me that feels like we should take off Labor Day.
jordan holmes
To honor all the people who have died trying to get unionized Labor Day.
dan friesen
I think it's an important holiday.
I mean, it's a lot of people.
It would be great to recognize that.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But then I also started to think, well, we record on Sunday.
So it's not actually Labor Day when we're working.
jordan holmes
There is that.
dan friesen
And you don't have to be at work to listen to a podcast.
jordan holmes
You really don't.
dan friesen
So, you know, I think people could be taking a day off and listening to a podcast, but if they do, they probably don't want to listen to, like, a really long podcast.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's probably true.
dan friesen
So let's meet in the middle.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Have a little shorty.
jordan holmes
Well, I think that's a good idea.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we'll talk about this shorty here in a second.
But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walls.
jordan holmes
I don't like the way you say shorty.
dan friesen
Lemonade's going to my head.
So first to my amazing wife Fenn, happy second anniversary.
Here's to many more years and adventures together with our little ham, roaming the world and listening to Knowledge Fight.
Love you always, Maney.
Thank you so much, Journal Now, Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you so much.
dan friesen
Mego, next.
My brother Edward.
Where are you, dog?
Where are you?
Report to Brain Quarters immediately.
Thank you so much, Journal Now, Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you so much.
dan friesen
Mego, and Brett is a globalist.
Thank you so much, Journal Now, Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you so much.
dan friesen
Mego, and we got a technocrat next, Jordan.
So thank you so much too.
Shout out to the Luchador, the summoner of fire dumpsters, and the keeper of the apocalypse.
You're now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
alex jones
Someone, someone, Sonomite sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Shark bump bump bump bump.
Jarge R. Binksh has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little, little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
So, you know, we are in a position here where Alex has experienced Trump sending feds to DC and National Guard and you know all this and he's been pretty into it.
Yep.
jordan holmes
And this is all because Gene Hackman died entirely, I think.
dan friesen
Yeah, we haven't figured out the exact thread, but it is somehow in the picture.
jordan holmes
It is all because of Gene Hackman.
dan friesen
Alex let Gene Hackman die, freed a demon.
jordan holmes
And that's where we're at.
dan friesen
Yeah, something like that.
We'll figure out all the details once things become declassified.
jordan holmes
I mean, you just can't deny God.
If God tells you to do something, you have to do it, otherwise you're going to get invaded in DC.
That just makes sense.
dan friesen
If you get two hundred dreams about saving a celebrity, a retired actor, do it.
Basically, the free world will be in peril if you don't do it.
jordan holmes
That's our advice.
That's our advice, official stance.
dan friesen
So I just think that, you know, we come to a certain place where, like, you know, he's agreeing with all this stuff that's an invalidation of his career.
He's just like trying to platform and legitimize a Nazi.
Yeah.
Saying, hey, anti Semitism is cool now because people are too mean to whites.
jordan holmes
Still hard to believe that one.
dan friesen
Yeah, so like, I don't know what could happen that would be shocking any more.
You know, it's a good question.
I feel like my job is to document this stuff, play it for you, and then you be surprised or shocked in some way by the things that are being said.
jordan holmes
I don't like your setup.
dan friesen
But I'm like, what can shock and surprise any more?
jordan holmes
I mean, first off, I'm very easily startled.
So you could come up from behind me with a big boo.
There's a good chance that I'm going to go, ah!
like that.
dan friesen
That's true, we could get a jump scare out of you.
jordan holmes
You could get a jump scare pretty easily.
dan friesen
But I mean, at a certain point, the outrage behind a response, it has to get watered down.
It's like, this is what we expect from this asshole now.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
I mean, I still feel the rage.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And I have it within me and it could be released at any point in time.
But there's also an element of like, if I'm going to keep showing up to work every day, we can't always be this rage filled.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Right.
But, you know, I just think, I think that we're at a place where he's got to do something really, really bad in order for it even to rank.
Yeah.
So I just thought that this had a little bit of a fun path to it.
Honestly, there's nothing that's going to shock you too much.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
It's just there's a fun little ride we're going to go on.
Okay.
So we start off and Alex is talking about the Trump Putin summit, right?
That's taking place in Alaska.
Yes.
He's very optimistic.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, it is august 15, 2025 on this Friday live edition coming up at 2:30 Central time, 3:30 Eastern time, 12:30 Alaska time.
Vladimir Putin and President Trump, the president of Russia and the US will meet in Anchorage, Alaska.
A little more than three and a half years after the Ukraine war escalated into seriously bloody, dangerous proportions, over a million dead, conservatively.
Here is footage of Vladimir Putin landing in Anchorage today.
dan friesen
The vibe you get is kind of almost like, it's more exciting that Putin's more exciting than Trump.
Yeah, well, I mean, and that's not new, but you can feel it a little bit.
jordan holmes
Which is weird because now they're more like each other than ever.
I think it's a weird thing where it's like, well, because I don't hear Putin news all goddamn day every goddamn day, then I can just paint upon him the thing that I really want.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Whereas with Trump it's all day every goddamn day and then suddenly DC is invaded.
Like, you know, with Russia, Moscow can be occupied and you're like, eh, whatever.
What are you going to do?
dan friesen
You know, Russia, the government and Putin is a much more successful image of a strong man.
Yeah.
The audience is kind of beaten down by the amount of pushback that the right wing media has had to perform in terms of the Iran attack and Epstein and Big Beautiful Bill, Elon Musk.
All these things cascading make Trump not look like the strong man they want him to be.
So meeting with Putin kind of only highlights that difference.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's not great.
jordan holmes
And one of them doesn't wear their shirt, so that's already a victory in right wing man worlds, right?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So manly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
He's on a horse.
dan friesen
So Alex's belief is that Trump and Putin already have a deal.
Right.
So this is all just about forcing Zelenskyy into it.
unidentified
Right.
alex jones
That if you look at being, you know, three and a half years in.
Russia has absolutely won this war.
So just from a pragmatic perspective, Trump is right saying it needs to be ended.
But if NATO and the EU want to continue, if they don't accept this deal that will be announced by Putin and Trump today, it was already agreed on over a week ago, as I told you, that Trump will give NATO and the EU and Zelensky their puppet.
I'm predicting a month month to agree to this deal.
And if they come back halfway reasonable with a couple of tweaks, then there'll be another meeting with Trump, Zelensky and Putin.
dan friesen
So we know from the fact that this didn't happen that Alex is wrong.
Yeah.
Yet another prediction that he's making that will just be ignored whenever people want to trot out any Alex Jones was right games.
Yeah.
But that's fun.
He's just writing fanfiction about how he wants this war to end in Russia's favor.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
Which is interesting.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It's not, it's weird because there's a, there's like this low level kind of understanding that Russia is not fighting this war, they're fighting the next war.
You know what I mean?
If like, if they get territory now, then the next war is already won because they know how that goes.
You give us territory to end the war.
dan friesen
And because that's how the last one went.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So they're preparing for this one.
jordan holmes
So we've got this all going, right?
But Alex seems to be like, well, you know, let him win the next war too.
We know what Russia wants, so let's give it all to him.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, you know, that insight of him wanting to invade Mexico, like, I think it does help.
He just believes in regional superpowers and like becoming colonial superstates.
jordan holmes
Is it really just his understanding of global politics as like a game of risk where he's like, oh, if you have control over the whole continent structure, then no one can attack you except through Alaska.
dan friesen
Yeah, they have to get Irkutsk.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Yeah, man, you can't get Irkutsk.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
You never get it.
dan friesen
You want to get to Australia.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
You're untouchable in Australia.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That's the problem.
That's why they had such strict COVID mandates down there was because they were trying to get Oceania all combined so no one could invade.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that does make sense.
dan friesen
I do think that like, you know, he talks a lot about like the big new Brzezinskis, the great game, great chessboard.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
of the world.
I think he might take that a bit more literally than he needs.
unidentified
So.
jordan holmes
Everybody's also just trying to get through the day at the same time, buddy.
It's true.
You know, we don't have to do all this stuff.
dan friesen
Well, part of getting through the day is relying on your local leaders.
So we got to look domestically.
jordan holmes
I think that's smart.
dan friesen
to some headlines.
Let's do it.
And gerrymandering is the subject of the day.
How are we going to choose those local leaders to represent us?
Fairly.
Yeah, totally.
Alex thinks they should they should just the GOP should just fucking chop it up.
alex jones
Okay, now I want to hit some really important domestic developments.
Governor Newsom came out yesterday, we covered it and said, We're going to totally rewrite the state for Democrats ahead of Trump trying to make us rewrite the Congressional lines.
And the Democrats have always been the world champions of gerrymandering.
They're the ones that wrote the book on it.
They're the ones that have always done it.
The Republicans have to do this.
California, Illinois, New York.
I mean, it's totally written to keep them in power.
dan friesen
So one of the biggest allures of the Alex Jones worldview and this kind of politics is the pretending to be above the left-right paradigm.
And if you were saying that the GOP needs to gerrymandering in order to fight the Democrats gerrymandering, you are deeply caught in the left-right paradigm.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah.
dan friesen
You are making excuses for things that are not cool because they benefit your side.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
Outside of the left-right paradigm, you go.
You go, gerrymandering is bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Inside it, you go, our team gerrymandering is good.
dan friesen
And it's defensive.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Against the other team.
Yeah.
And that's why, I mean, like, I don't think that I have any interest in defending a lot of Democratic attempts at gerrymandering.
Sure.
In the same way that I wouldn't with the GOP.
Yeah, creating the most fair way to provide representation is the way to go.
Yeah.
Not strategically chopping up states in order to create more seats for yourself.
jordan holmes
And even if you are going to do that, right?
Some of these are geometric shapes that look like I'm a bad person.
Like if you were just drawing this geometric shape, it would be the shape of a bad person who would draw it, right?
It's like, it's, it's, it's got too many sides, too many angles, and it's too small in certain areas.
Yeah, it's absurd.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And it has like a tentacle or two.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guys, we gotta not do that.
dan friesen
Yeah, that, that kind of stuff is, I think, a big part of what hurts the public trust in our institutions.
Yeah.
The fact that people do that kind of stuff makes you think like, oh, there's a lot of power that people are pursuing as opposed to representation and protecting our interests.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it would serve both sides, honestly, to cut that shit out.
jordan holmes
It doesn't serve quote unquote Democrats, or at least it doesn't serve the people who vote for Democrats to have Democrats who are not concerned about losing their jobs if the people who vote for them don't like them anymore.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, creating safe districts and stuff, I understand the argument that it helps protect your interests.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
sort of.
jordan holmes
I guess.
dan friesen
But what it really does is protect the interests of the people who want to be safe in their seat.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or whatever.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
So like, I think that the appeal of Alex's politics is being able to say both sides are doing this shit.
and it's fucking bad.
jordan holmes
It has to stop.
dan friesen
It's corrosive to politics.
Yeah.
And he has betrayed or abandoned his ability to take that stance.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The GOP must, uh, gerrymandering.
jordan holmes
There's just a place, you know, okay.
Like you got your, you got your social media sites where there are places for things.
You know, like an Instagram is a place for this, a TikTok is a place for this, a Twitter is a place for this, right?
Like when you go to Infowars, this is not a place where Wolf Blitzer is going to have the fucking county map up of who's voting where.
I'm not here in Infowars to shout about demons.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm not here to vote for like the fucking lesser of two demons.
Come on, man.
Yeah.
That's a pun you meant.
dan friesen
I don't know if it was a pun.
jordan holmes
As play on words.
It's play on words.
dan friesen
You're fine.
But yeah, I totally agree.
I mean, it's just this is mealy mouth.
jordan holmes
This is not the place for this.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
If this was a bar, I would kick you out of the bar because this is not the place for this.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So there's a, you know, the police state is activating in some ways.
jordan holmes
It's fine though.
dan friesen
You know, like feds are snatching people up.
jordan holmes
Sure.
I mean, when you say it like that, it really doesn't sound good.
dan friesen
Yeah, but have you considered possibly that they're immigrants?
alex jones
Newsom said California to draw congressional maps to end the Trump presidency.
And then he has these outdoor rallies for redistricting.
And beautifully, the head of the border patrol showed up, talked to the press, and then arrested a bunch of illegal aliens.
And then Newsom is like, how dare they?
This is a police state.
This is terrible.
And you go to MSNBC, CNN, ABC News, it's all the same.
This is a police state.
While you got federal agents jumping out of cars and grabbing people.
Yeah, grabbing illegal aliens.
dan friesen
Oh, it's fine.
It's fine.
jordan holmes
You got policemen jumping out of cars and grabbing people.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Illegal immigrant?
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
People who they suspect are illegal immigrants.
It's fine.
jordan holmes
There is no situation where how is it possible not at least have like a knock on the door?
And can we come in, please?
How is that possible that we could have any other discussion?
where it's okay.
Because anyone, anywhere, just grabbing people off the street is bad.
dan friesen
Oh, it's bad.
And then you add on to that that this is clearly political targets.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
What Alex is describing is the Trump administration showing up to a political rival's rally.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then just grabbing people that they suspect are undocumented immigrants.
You got it.
And that's terror.
jordan holmes
That is literal terrorism.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what we call it.
dan friesen
And whether or not Alex is accurately describing what happened is one question.
Sure.
But based on the way that he's describing this, this is not okay.
I mean, this is not Infowars what they're supposed to be about.
jordan holmes
I just feel like if we get to the bottom, and this is what I feel like.
I feel like one of the hardest parts is finding things that we all agree on.
But I think 95% of the people, if you just scratch them, if 95% of the people had to stop and think, every one of them would be like, No, you shouldn't be allowed to just grab people from the streets.
dan friesen
Man, I hope that's true.
jordan holmes
I think it is true.
There's just a small number of people who get too much power who can convince themselves of things that are insane.
dan friesen
And then come up with ways to make it harder to scratch under the surface of people.
And recognize the shared agreement that we have that this is way to go.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Listen, we can argue about Christianity and religion and all that stuff, but I guarantee that there's a 95% chance you don't think it's okay to grab people off the street and take them.
dan friesen
Especially like on the grounds of like, I think that you're an immigrant.
jordan holmes
You look different.
That's crazy.
That's not even okay.
That's not even okay to think about.
dan friesen
And on a societal level, that's all true and fair.
But on an Infowars level, on an Alex Police Stadium kind of level, yeah.
It's just flagrant.
It's so flagrantly wrong and against what he pretended to care about that it's like it's parody.
jordan holmes
It's it's against what anyone pretends to care about.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like that it is it is just I don't I just don't know how you can talk yourself into, oh yeah, so if you're in a car, you jump out, grab a nothing suspecting person, get them into the car with handcuffs, and then drive away real fast as a okay sequence of events.
dan friesen
I think I can come up with one scenario.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's a birthday party.
jordan holmes
Same place.
dan friesen
That's one.
jordan holmes
Same place, yeah.
unidentified
Two.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Prank show.
jordan holmes
Prank show, that sounds right.
If Eric Andre grabs you.
But even then, if Eric Andre grabs you, you kind of know what's up.
dan friesen
up.
I just watched Jackass Forever.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Finally got around it.
It's over.
Eric Andre is in there.
jordan holmes
I know, he's great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Got hit trying to get a coffee.
jordan holmes
It's really fun.
dan friesen
I feel like whenever they have a thing that, an inflatable thing that pops out.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fuck, I'll laugh every time.
I don't care.
You could do it a thousand times, it's still funny.
jordan holmes
I have watched the hand slap the guy holding the tray of drinks.
I can't even tell you how many times.
It's just.
Yeah, I could never not watch it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Gold.
jordan holmes
I think we should stop the show right now and watch it.
dan friesen
I think we need to invest.
Like, fuck 24 hour news.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
24 hour people being hit by things that are like, Oh my God.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
That'll save society.
jordan holmes
We've done everything wrong.
dan friesen
So they say in life that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Sure.
And in that case, we have Rex, son of Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Rex Jones.
jordan holmes
Rex son of Alex.
dan friesen
The apple hasn't fallen far from the tree.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's in the shadow.
unidentified
He is.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He shows up.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And many people would think like, Okay, Alex's son carrying on his legacy.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
That would mean him getting deep into communist conspiracies and John Birch Society stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it turns out it's really, he's into supplements.
alex jones
Well, when Rex was like ten years old, he would hang around here at the office, here at these studios.
That's how long we've been there.
He's 22 now.
He'd be like, you know, ten then.
We've already been there a few years.
And we'd just point a camera at him.
And he was already so politically informed.
He would do a great job.
People say, How's that kid reading the script or does he have a teleprompter?
The answer was no.
He just played one of those clips going to the last break.
But Rex's real genius is he runs some online stores and on his own is doing a great job.
the last few years is chemistry and supplement development.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's carrying on my legacy as a fence.
jordan holmes
I mean, as in a vacuum, not forcing your political beliefs on your child, I guess is good.
dan friesen
I don't think that's happened.
jordan holmes
I don't think it's happened either, but in this, in this small area where we're leaving out any possibility, let's say that this child has left all that stuff behind, but grabbed the one little piece that he could hold on to, which is the chemistry involved in supplements, and then took that little piece and made something out of his life.
dan friesen
I don't think he's also into the chemistry and supplement development.
I think his name is on some businesses so Alex can probably illegally.
But like, I think that there's something really interesting about this and that like, if you are Alex Jones' son, yeah.
Obviously you're going to want to make your dad proud.
You know, there is a desire to live up to the expectations for sure.
That he has clearly, like, you're his firstborn son, you have the race memory.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Of like, you're Paul Atreides, you know?
Like, yeah.
There's a real pressure to be this, this heir.
Yeah.
And, you know, you're going to live with that for a while.
Be and my son, yeah.
I think what Alex is describing at the beginning there is the way that you do it first.
It's like, I want to get into this politics stuff and impress my dad with my repetition of things that W. Kleon Skausen said.
But then over time, you realize your dad doesn't give a fuck about that stuff.
He cares about the supplements.
jordan holmes
It's about the business.
dan friesen
He wants to sell these supplements.
And so now, in order to try and make your dad proud, you sell CBD.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Okay.
So we're talking about the evolution of daddy issues over time.
dan friesen
And I think that this is a more sincere one.
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Interesting.
dan friesen
The true legacy and the true trying to get get dad's attention is starting your own supplement business.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, any dad with a huge personality often leaves issues in their wake.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
A dad with this personality cannot help but leave a trash behind.
dan friesen
Oh, you know, garbage islands.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I think that if I were Rex, I probably would recognize quite accurately that nothing I do is ever going to be better than Nick.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Nick Fuentes is going to be able to outscircle you in terms of rhetoric, politics, all this stuff.
So like, why would you ever try try to impress your dad down that route?
Go the other way.
jordan holmes
Get big.
Yeah, get swollen.
There's something Nick can't compete with.
So let's swollen.
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Under your dad's name in a business that's probably canaling money out.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's totally legal though.
Do things that are totally legal for your dad to hide money.
That's always worked well in the past.
dan friesen
It's a family business.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
So, Alex, you know, he's talking about a bunch of shit and who cares a shit.
But towards the end of the show, in the fourth hour, Chase Geyser takes over.
And I thought that there was a moment that is so funny.
We're talking about Trump and Putin meeting to try and end a war that Alex thinks will lead to a nuclear apocalypse.
We have troops taking over DC and Alex is like, yeah, I think it's fine that the Feds snatching people up at protests because they're immigrants.
It's not what you're going to do.
jordan holmes
What are you going to do?
dan friesen
Right, you have all this and Chase is going to interview the person who won a truck in an Infowars raffle.
chase geiser
And just in a few minutes, we're going to be joined by Cheryl and Tim Schoner, who won the Ford Lariat.
Absolutely incredible family, incredible inspiration to see all the supporters.
It's one of my favorite things is when the winners of the giveaways come out.
We don't talk about the giveaways very often on this network because, frankly, it's hard to go from talking about, I don't know, World War Three, about ready to explode right in front of our faces, conflicts with Iran, Epstein files, the existencial threat that we're in as a species because of people like Bill Gates blocking out the sun, the Fauci's getting away with murdering tens of thousands, if not millions of people, the major pharmaceutical companies.
You go from all this coverage of mRNA vaccines and just total bio engineering and the technocratic takeover and the artificial intelligence wars that we're in with the CCP and the fact that everything seems to be at a critical point in history.
And then you go, hey, by the way, if you go to the store, Or ten X entries on the new truck.
It's hard to pitch it.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, it is.
jordan holmes
It does feel incongruous.
Yeah, but you put it like that, specifically, exactly like that.
I think you have already made the argument for yourself.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think you are revealing that you have a human self consciousness about doing something super shady and performative.
jordan holmes
Oh, Chase.
dan friesen
I do like the little moments of self awareness that he can offer.
Yeah.
Because I think that if you didn't realize that saying this kind of reveals how artificial all the very serious things you're listening are.
If you didn't realize that, then this is a really this is a normal thing to feel.
That is a tough pitch.
jordan holmes
No, that's a tough pitch.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's not that hard for Alex, and that's why he does bring up the raffles periodically.
jordan holmes
I mean, he's he has the ability.
dan friesen
He has no problem making that jump.
No.
But for someone like Chase, who maybe is a little connected to his humanity still, he understands it's fucked up to be like, hey, we're all dying because of a bio weapon attack that these people have made and they're trying to block out the sun.
Yeah.
Also, hey, if you buy our dumb pills, you could win a truck.
jordan holmes
I mean, what's funny to me about about it, though, is that when you condense it down like that, right, it feels like you guys are overreacting in a way of, of, of, like, see, look, there's like a million things to kill you right now.
Calm it down.
Just do a truck.
dan friesen
You know, it's not going to kill you.
jordan holmes
Raffles.
Right, have fun, have fun at any moment.
It could all be over.
So have a raffle.
dan friesen
And, and I think that this is like, I think we've talked about it a little bit in the past, but like there's something so old radio station about raffling off a truck.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It feels like your local radio station is trying to generate some kind of publicity.
And that that that's the world that Alex comes from.
is old radio.
And so this makes total sense to him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like this is what we're going to do.
It's going to be fucking huge.
We're going to raffle these trucks off.
jordan holmes
No, there's a plot of That seventies show that is one of those like hold your hand on the car contest and you win.
Like that's where we're at.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is the this is the old time.
dan friesen
Except we haven't gotten to the point where there's a contest yet.
There's just a raffle.
That's true.
But it's silly.
jordan holmes
We'll get there.
dan friesen
It's silly and it's fucking stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I love the idea that we're talking about all this serious stuff and then the last hour of the show is talking to someone who won a truck.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, here's the weird part.
unidentified
I really think that's great.
dan friesen
Well, it's like, like, Alex talking about butter.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know?
Just do your shit.
Talk about this truck.
jordan holmes
Come on, man.
Just have a good time.
dan friesen
But I was, the reason that I played that clip is like, it's such a capsulation of what I'm talking about.
Yeah.
Like, Chase is trying to be a little bit defensive about how difficult it is, Yeah.
Thematically, to have this show that's about all this, like, you're gonna die, you're gonna die.
We have a raffle.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a hard sell.
It's a hard pitch.
jordan holmes
I think there's something in him.
Now, I'm maybe reading too much into this, but I think through that little clip right there, there's something in him going, like, I think I want to do something else.
I think I want to do a different kind of radio.
I think he really likes radio.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
I really think he does.
I think he wants to be like a Zoo crew guy.
dan friesen
There's at least some piece of him that has to recognize the artificiality of this.
And like how difficult it is to keep sincerity, an image of sincerity when this is the totality of what you do.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like you contain all this.
Yeah.
It's like, no, you're silly.
This is stupid shit.
Yeah.
Stop trying to make me think you actually believe that COVID is a fucking bio weapon.
jordan holmes
Now tell me more about this truck.
Tell me more about the great truck.
dan friesen
Also, another thing, I don't know if I've pointed this out, but Alex has a couple of times mentioned that there are still daggers available.
And that is worrying because those should have sold.
jordan holmes
Daggers should sell.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He, he, I don't remember exactly.
I think it was like a thousand or two thousand of them that he bought.
And like, he should be able to sell two thousand daggers.
jordan holmes
I think that tells us what age level of audience is still staying around.
dan friesen
People who are too old to be.
jordan holmes
People who are old enough for a.
Survival foods and supplements, but not young enough to want a dagger any more.
dan friesen
Somebody who doesn't trust that they could stab.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't think a dagger's doing too much for most of his, unless they're like displaying it, which I don't know if you're buying an InfoWars dagger to put behind glass.
dan friesen
I mean, it's it's it's like a burning of Alex's signature in it, so like, you know, it's a commemorative piece.
jordan holmes
It's a little it's a conversation piece for sure.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It'll start a conversation.
dan friesen
Well, look, those daggers may not all be gone.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But every time they raffle off a truck, someone's getting it.
jordan holmes
Chase will be there to give it to you.
And to ask you how you feel about it.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
How do they feel about it?
dan friesen
Great.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's a good truck.
unidentified
It is, and how long is the interview?
dan friesen
I mean, at most of the chapters.
You don't give him a full hour for, you know, maybe not the full hour, but they, you know, spend more time than you need to on, hey, I got a truck.
jordan holmes
What do they talk about?
dan friesen
The truck.
jordan holmes
That's it, they all talk, like, there's no, like, follow up on, like, what's going on in your lives that you're using.
dan friesen
It's so like a dagger.
Bah, I mean, well, there's, like, human, there's some human interest.
jordan holmes
How do you feel about Bill Gates killing all your family?
dan friesen
Well, I'm worried about the sun.
jordan holmes
See, there you go.
dan friesen
And my son.
He's blocked.
What's my son going to do without the sun?
jordan holmes
Where's Rex?
dan friesen
So, anyway, this was just a little ride I wanted to go on was a seriousness to truck giveaway.
But we'll be back for another episode and, you know, dive into a little bit more about the police state stuff and how this whole thing is, it sits with his career.
It's the only thing that I think is important.
jordan holmes
It's fascinating.
dan friesen
And I don't think that he's going to be all that helpful in learning about what's important about it.
Very doubtful.
So we'll try and figure out an angle on that for next time.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we do.
It's knowledgedrive dot com dot Yeah.
dan friesen
But hey, go out there and get some Utz Lemonade.
unidentified
No, not sponsored, but crazy.
dan friesen
Crazy that it's good.
jordan holmes
It is good.
And also we have a show or something.
Some tickets or whatever.
dan friesen
There, thanks.
jordan holmes
Utz Lemonade.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Serious.
dan friesen
Happy Labor Day.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
unidentified
Woo.
Yeah.
Woo.
Yeah.
Woo.
jordan holmes
And now here comes the Sex Robots.
alex jones
Andy and Chanzas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
So, Alex, I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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