Knowledge Fight - #1072: August 15, 2025

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#1072: August 15, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan take a short walk through Infowars coverage of the most important issues of the day, like martial law, foreign wars, and raffled trucks. Tickets now available for our Portland show here

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dan friesen

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jordan holmes

12:12

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alex jones

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unidentified		Dan and Jordan, I'm sweating.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's time to pray.
unidentified		Andy and hands with your only air.
		Well, Alex and I think it's fancy.
		I love your room.
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		I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey everybody.
unidentified		Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
		I'm Dan.
		I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
unidentified		Jordan.
unidentified		Dan Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Quick question for you.
unidentified		So which bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why don't you go first?
unidentified		My bright spot today is I watched, or I think I rewatched Ricky J and his 52 assistants.
		The cards.
		Uh yeah.
		The deck of cards.
		He's it's it's a legendary like magic show, but it's not a magic.
		It's like um it's a one-man show, in a way, you know, with magic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
unidentified		It's like the difference between you know, like Daniel Schar's show is is not a stand-up comedy show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's very funny.
unidentified		It's a one-man show.
		It's a one-man show.
		There's something, there's an element that separates the two of them from being just like a Yeah, one person shows are more they have like a bit more monology and a structure.
		Totally.
		Yeah.
		There's a complete story within it.
		And this is one of the like, this is a legendary special for that reason.
		It's got history, it's got I mean, it's just it's just magical.
		And he can also throw a card into a watermelon, and that's pretty fucking cool.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You proud of calling it magical?
unidentified		I am proud of calling it magical.
		Um I attend all of my puns with gusto.
		I don't know if I have seen that itself, but I know that I've seen a fair amount of Ricky J stuff in my life, and he's always he's always uh fun to see pop up in a movie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's also one of those that guys where you're like, hey, that's that guy.
unidentified		Yeah, and he's he's one of the great.
unidentified		Like it's it's so it's so enthralling to watch because it is like this combination, not of that regular pitter patter of like, hey, I'm gonna do some magic for you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like in 1455, there was that, you know, it's just fantastic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll just check it out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you I would recommend it for all.
unidentified		Cool.
unidentified		How about your bright spot?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I thought your bright spot was going to be the tickets are on sale uh on Monday for our show in Portland.
unidentified		Tickets are on sale today while you are listening to this in Portland.
		I thought that was gonna be your bright spot, so I cued you up to go first.
		Um, but then you didn't do it, so I should now take that as yours.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I unfortunately have another bright spot.
unidentified		Awesome.
		Then we have a combined bright spot at the end of our separate bright spot.
		Hold on for that.
		Oh, I don't know what it is yet.
		It's gonna blow people's minds.
		Um so my bright spot is I really liked that that name formulaic confections.
		Yeah, I think we all did.
		Um so I I have brought in a snack.
		Snack no.
		Oh no, it's happening.
		This is a snack that I saw at the store.
		Whoa, those are uts.
		Yeah, they're uts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're uts.
		They're not chips.
		Oh my god.
unidentified		Lemonade?
		Yeah.
		So I uh texted some friends about having bought this.
		Yeah, sent a picture.
		Yeah.
		And they all responded, uh, what are they like?
		And I realized that I was staring at the bag, afraid to try them.
		Because this is such a crazy potato chip flavor.
		Lemonade?
		What?
		They even look like lemon.
		The chips now have have taken on the appearance of lemons.
		Well, to be fair, they're yellow to begin with.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I understand, but that's my perception.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to try this.
unidentified		I guess you're gonna try it too.
		Please try not to chew on the mic out of the sensitivity for uh you go first.
		This is your this is your whole bit.
		I'll do a little bit of vamping so you don't chew on the mic, and there's still something to listen to.
		From your face, I can say right now, we are getting not a a negative reaction, not a like, ew.
		No, I'm I'm shocked.
		You're shocked!
		I'm shocked.
		Alright, well, yeah.
		While you describe it, I'll take my own bite.
		There's a fair amount of tartness to it, but it's not over the top.
		Because like I think tart in a potato chip often comes off as vinegar.
		And so I think that I think that a little bit of a sourness that this is able to convey really works for a potato chip.
		And I don't think lemon is that unwelcome.
		No, I'm shocked.
		I thoroughly agree with you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I am blown away by this.
unidentified		I I kind of like them.
		That is good.
		There is so here's the thing that I think I immediately react to is the lemonade is going to be overpowering, and a chip is not the way to deliver the lemonade flavor.
		Yeah, yeah.
		I was worried for that.
		That was exactly what I thought.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
unidentified		But this seems to be like a chip that allowed for lemonade to be nearby and then gives it a little bit of extra.
unidentified		Ooh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was kind of worried that it would just be like, oh, there's a dusting of like country time.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		Like a Doritos lemonade is the horror most horrifying thing I can think of.
		Yeah, but that's balance.
		No, that's that's really good, actually.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Damn it, uh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I could eat a yeah.
unidentified		Wow.
		Holy crazy sons of bitches.
		Out of control.
		Wow.
		I was excited to try that as we were recording, because I didn't know what direction it was gonna go.
		Yeah.
		I wouldn't I would not have bet money that it was going to turn into we both think it's pretty good.
		I would have been fine if one of us thought it was okay and the other was like, eh, I don't like this, but this is wild.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		This is a quality chip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Unprecedented.
unidentified		Unprecedented.
unidentified		So uh we have a joint bright spot, and that is the tickets are available.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The tickets are available.
unidentified		Uh the link is in the show.
		Peter, December 19th uh in Portland.
		And uh yeah, the description and click on that.
		Should be live Monday.
		Midnight.
		Right away.
		Yeah.
		With some time zone.
		Pretty much when you're listening to this, it will be available for you to click on.
		Uh if you're worried that I don't know.
		We it we probably listen, I'm not gonna say anything.
		Go buy tickets if you need to.
		Um so today we have an episode to go over.
		But it's gonna be a little short shorty.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're gonna talk a shorty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, uh, we're gonna talk about August 15th, 2025.
unidentified		All right.
		And um I just I I I was wrestling with hey, it's Labor Day.
		Right.
		Let's, you know, we there's a part of me that feels like we should take off Labor Day.
		In honor of all the people who have died trying to get unionized labor.
		I think it's an important holiday and a lot of people.
		It would be great to recognize that.
		Sure.
		But then I also started to think like, well, we record on Sunday.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it's not actually Labor Day when we're working.
unidentified		There is that.
		And you don't have to be at work to listen to a podcast.
		You really don't.
		So, you know, I think people could uh be taking the day off and listen to a podcast, but if they do, they probably don't want to listen to like a really long podcast.
		Yeah, that's probably true.
		So let's meet in the middle.
		Okay.
		Have a little shorty.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that's a good idea.
unidentified		Yeah.
		So we'll uh talk about this, Shorty, here in a second.
		But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
		Lemonade's gone to my head.
		Um so first, uh to my amazing wife Fenn, happy second anniversary.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's to many more years and adventures together and uh on with our little ham roaming the world and listening to Knowledge Fight.
unidentified		Love you always, Maney.
		Thank you so much.
		You're not policy wonk.
		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Uh next, uh my brother Edweard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Where are you at, dog?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Where are you at?
unidentified		Report to Brain Quarters immediately.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
unidentified		You're not sure.
unidentified		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		And Brett is a globalist.
		Thank you so much.
		You're an Iowa Paul's wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified		Thank you very much.
		Thank you.
		And we got a technical credit in the mix, Jordan.
		So thank you so much too.
		Shout out to the Luchador, the summoner of fire dumpsters, and the keeper of the apocalypse.
		You're now a technocrat.
		I'm a policy wonk.
		Four stars.
		Someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
		Daddy Shark.
		Bom bom bum bump.
		Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action.
		He's a loser, little little kitty baby.
		I don't want to hate black people.
		I renounce Jesus Christ.
		Thank you so much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, thank you very much.
unidentified		So, you know, we we are in a position here where Alex has uh experienced Trump uh sending feds to DC and National Guard and you know all this, and he's been pretty into it.
		Yep.
		Um this is all because Gene Hackman died entirely, I think.
		Yeah, we haven't figured out the exact thread, but it is somehow in it.
		It is all it is all because of Gene Hackman.
		Alex let Gene Hackman died free to demon, they got into Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that's where we're at.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Something like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll Figure out all the details once things become declassified.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you just can't deny God.
		If God tells you to do something, you gotta do it, otherwise you're gonna get invaded in DC.
		That just makes sense.
unidentified		If you get 200 dreams about saving a celebrity, a retired actor, do it.
unidentified		Basically the free world will be at in peril if you don't do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's our advice.
unidentified		That's our advice, official stance.
		Um so I I just think that you know, we come to a certain place where like, you know, he's agreeing with all this stuff that's an invalidation of his career.
		He's just like trying to platform and legitimize a Nazi.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Uh he's saying, hey, anti-Semitism's cool now because people are too mean to whites.
unidentified		Um still hard to believe that one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so like I I don't know what could happen that would be shocking anymore.
unidentified		You know, that's a good question.
unidentified		What like I I feel like my job is to document this stuff, play it for you, and then you be surprised or shocked in some way by the things that are being said.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't like your setup.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I'm like, what can what can be shock and surprise anymore?
unidentified		Um, I mean, what first off, I'm very easily startled.
		So you could come up from behind me with a big boo.
		There's a good chance that I'm gonna go, ah, like that.
		That's true.
		We could get a jump scare out of you.
		You could get a jump scare pretty easily.
		But I mean, like at a certain point, the outrage uh uh behind like a response, yeah, it's gotta get watered down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like this is what we expect out of this asshole now.
unidentified		Right, right.
unidentified		I mean, I still feel the rage, yeah, and I have it within me, and it could be unleashed at any point in time, but there's also an element of like, if I'm gonna keep showing up to work every day, we can't always be this rage-filled.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
unidentified		But um, you know, I just think uh I think that uh we're at a place where he's gotta do something really, really bad in order for it to even rank.
		Yeah.
		Um so uh I just thought that this had a little bit of a fun path to it.
		Honestly, there's nothing that's gonna shock you too much.
		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just there's a fun little ride we're gonna go on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Um so we start off, and Alex is talking about the uh Trump Putin summit.
		Right.
		That's taking place in Alaska.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Uh he's very optimistic.
		Ladies and gentlemen, it is August 15th, 2025 on this Friday live edition.
		Coming up at 2 30 Central Time, 3 30 Eastern, 12 30 Alaska time.
		Vladimir Putin and President Trump, the President of Russia and the U.S. will meet in Anchorage, Alaska.
		A little more than three and a half years after the Ukraine war escalated into seriously bloody dangerous proportions, over a million dead conservatively.
		Here is footage of Vladimir Putin landing in Anchorage today.
		The vibe you get is kind of almost like it's more exciting that uh Putin's more exciting than Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I mean And that's not new, but you can feel it a little.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is weird because now they're more alike than ever.
unidentified		I think it's it's a weird thing where it's like, well, because I don't hear Putin news, oh god damn it, every goddamn day.
unidentified		Then I can just paint upon him the thing that I really want.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Whereas with Trump, it's all day, every goddamn day, and then suddenly DC's invaded.
		Like, you know, if with Russia, Moscow can be occupied, and you're like, eh, whatever.
		What are you gonna do?
		You know, Russia, the government, and and Putin is uh is a much more successful image of a strong man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And uh the uh the audience is uh kind of beaten down by the the amount of pushback that the right wing media has had to perform in terms of the Iran attack and and Epstein and big beautiful Bill, Elon Musk, all these things cascading does make Trump not look like the strong man that they want him to.
unidentified		So meeting with Putin kind of only highlights that difference.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's not great.
unidentified		And one of them doesn't wear their shirt, so that's already a victory in right-wing man world, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So manly.
unidentified		Yeah, absolutely.
		He's on a horse.
		So Alex's belief is that Trump and Putin already have a deal.
		Right.
		So this is all just about forcing Zelensky into it.
		Right.
		Then if you look at being three and a half years in, Russia has absolutely won this war.
		So just from a pragmatic perspective, Trump is right saying it needs to be ended.
		But if NATO and the EU want to continue, if they don't accept this deal, it'll be announced by Putin and Trump today.
		It was already agreed to over a week ago, as I told you.
		That Trump will give NATO and the EU and Zelensky their puppet.
		I'm predicting a month to agree to this deal.
		Then if they come back halfway reasonable with a couple tweaks, then there'll be another meeting with Trump, Zelensky and Putin.
		So we know from the fact that this didn't happen that Alex is wrong.
		Yeah.
		Yet another prediction that he's making that will just be ignored whenever people want to trot out any Alex Jones was right games.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Uh but that's fun.
unidentified		If he's just writing fan fiction about how he wants this war to end in Russia's favor.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is interesting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		It's not surprising, though.
		Right.
		Right.
		And it's it is weird because there's a there's like this low level kind of understanding that Russia is not fighting this war, they're fighting the next war.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If like if they get territory now, then the next war is already won because they know how that goes.
unidentified		You give us territory to end the war.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And because that's how the last one went.
unidentified		Exactly.
		So we've got this all going, right?
		Uh but Alex seems to be like, well, you know, let him win the next war too.
		We know what Russia wants, so let's give it all to him.
		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		And and uh, you know, that that insight of him wanting to invade Mexico, like, I think it does help.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He just believes in like regional superpowers and like becoming uh colonial super states.
unidentified		Is it is it really just his understanding of global politics is like a game of risk where he's like, oh, if you have control over the whole continent structure, then nobody can attack you except through Alaska.
		Yeah, they gotta get Urkutsk.
		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh man, you can't get Arkutsk.
unidentified		No.
		You never get it.
		You want to get to Australia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
unidentified		You're untouchable in Australia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		That's the problem.
		That's why they had such strict COVID mandates down there.
		Was because they were trying to get Oceania all combined so no one could invade.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that does make sense.
unidentified		I do think that like uh, you know, he he talks a lot about like Zabignu Brzezinski's the great uh game, great chessboard of the world.
		I think he might take that a bit more literally than he needs to.
		So everybody's also just trying to get through the day at the same time, buddy.
		It's true.
		You know, we don't have to do all this stuff.
		Well, part of getting through the day is relying on your local leaders.
		Uh so we gotta look domestically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think that's smart to some headlines.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's do it.
unidentified		Um and gerrymandering is the subject of the day.
		How are we gonna choose those local leaders to represent us?
		Fairly.
		Uh yeah, totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex thinks they should just the GOP should just fucking chop it up.
unidentified		All right.
		Now I want to hit some really important domestic developments.
		Governor Newsom came out yesterday, we covered it and said we're gonna totally rewrite the state for Democrats ahead of Trump trying to make us rewrite the congressional lines.
		And the Democrats have always been the world champions of gerrymandering.
		They're the ones that wrote the book on it.
		They're the ones that have always done it.
		And the Republicans have to do this.
		California, Illinois, New York, I I mean, it is totally written to keep them in power.
		So one of the biggest allures of of the Alex Jones worldview and this kind of politics is the pretending to be above the left right paradigm.
		Yeah.
		And if you were saying that the GOP needs to gerrymander in order to fight the Democrats gerrymandering, you are deeply caught in the left right paradigm.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		You are making excuses for things that are not cool because they benefit your side.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Right.
		Outside of the left right paradigm, you go, gerrymandering is bad.
		Yeah.
		Inside of it, you go, our team gerrymandering is good.
		And it's defensive against the other teams.
		And that's what's a Cassisbelli here.
		Yeah, and that's why I mean, like, I don't think that I have any interest in def uh defending a lot of Democrat uh uh attempts at gerrymandering in the same way that I wouldn't with the GOP.
		Yeah.
		Creating the most fair uh way to to provide representation is the way to go.
		Yeah.
		Not strategically chopping up states in order to uh create more seats for yourself.
		And even if you are gonna do that, right?
		Some of these are geometric shapes that look like I'm a bad person.
		Like if you draw this, if you were just drawing this geometric shape, yeah, it would be the s the shape of a bad person who would draw it.
		Right.
		It's like uh it's it's got too many sides, too many angles, and it's too small in certain areas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's absurd.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and it has like a tentacle or two.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified		Guys, we gotta not do that.
unidentified		Yeah, that that kind of stuff i is I think a big part of what hurts the public trust in in our institutions.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		The fact that people do that kind of stuff makes you think like, oh, there's a lot of power that people are pursuing as opposed to representation and protecting our interests.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it would serve both sides, honestly, to cut that shit out.
unidentified		It doesn't serve quote unquote Democrats, or at least it doesn't serve the people who vote for Democrats to have Democrats who are not concerned about losing their job if the people who vote for them don't like them anymore.
		You know?
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		Uh creating safe districts and stuff, uh uh I understand the argument that it helps protect your interests, sort of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I guess.
unidentified		But what it really does is protect the interest of the people who want to be safe in their seat.
		Yep.
		Or whatever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You got it.
unidentified		So, like, I I think that the appeal of Alex's politics is being able to say both sides are doing this shit and it's fucking bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's gotta stop.
unidentified		It's corrosive to the politics.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he has betrayed or abandoned his ability to take that stance.
unidentified		Yeah.
		The GOP must uh gerrymander.
		There is just a place, you know.
		Okay.
		Like, you've got your you've got your social media sites where there are places for things, you know, like an Instagram is a place for this, a TikTok is a place for this, a Twitter is a place for this, right?
		Like, when you go to InfoWars, this is not a place where Wolf Blitzer is gonna have the like uh fucking county map up of who's voting where.
		We're here in InfoWars to shout about demons.
		Yeah.
		I'm not here to vote for like the the fucking lesser of two demons.
		Come on, man.
		Nice.
		Now that's a pun you meant.
		I don't know if it was a pun as play on playful.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's play on words.
unidentified		You're fine.
unidentified		Um but yeah, I I totally agree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's just this is um this is uh mealy mouth.
unidentified		This is not the place for this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		If this was a bar, I would kick you out of the bar because this is not the place for this.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		So uh there's uh you know, the police state uh is is uh activating in some ways.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's fine though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, like feds are snatching people up and stuff.
unidentified		When you say it like that, it really doesn't sound good.
unidentified		Yeah, but have you considered possibly that they're immigrants?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There's some shit California to draw congressional maps to end the Trump presidency.
unidentified		And then he has these outdoor rallies for redistricting, and beautifully, the head of the board patrol showed up, talked to the press, and then arrested a bunch of illegal aliens.
		And then Newsom is like, how dare them?
		This is a yo police state.
		This is terrible.
		And you go to MSNBC, CNN, ABC News, it's all the same.
		This is a police state.
		Well, you got federal agents jumping out of cars and grabbing people.
		Yeah, grabbing illegal aliens.
		Oh, it's fine.
		It's fine.
		You've got policemen jumping out of cars and grabbing people.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		Illegal immigr.
		What?
		People who they suspect are illegal immigrants.
		It's fine.
		There is no situation where it's how is it possible to not at least have like a knock on the door and can we come in, please?
		How is that possible that we could have any other discussion where it's okay?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because anyone, Anywhere, just grabbing people off the street is bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's bad.
unidentified		And then you add on to that that this is clearly political target.
		Absolutely.
		What Alex is describing is the Trump administration showing up to a political rival's rally and then just grabbing people that they suspect are uh undocumented demographics.
		You got it.
		And that's terror.
		That is literal terrorism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what we call it.
unidentified		And and whether or not Alex is accurately describing what happened is one question.
		Sure.
		But based on the way that he's describing this, this is not okay.
		I mean This is not InfoWars what they're supposed to be about.
		I just feel like if we get to the bottom, and this is what I feel like.
		I feel like one of the hardest parts is finding things that we all agree on.
		But I think 95% of the people, if you just scratch them, if 95% of the people had to stop and think, every one of them would be like, no, you shouldn't be allowed to just grab people off the streets.
		Man, I hope that's true.
		I think it is true.
		There's just a small number of people who get too much power who can convince themselves of things that are insane.
		You know?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then come up with ways to make it harder to scratch uh underneath the surface for people.
unidentified		Recognize the shared agreement that we have that this is way fucking wrong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Listen, we can argue about Christianity and religion and all that stuff, but I guarantee that there's a 95% chance you don't think it's okay to grab people off the street and take them.
unidentified		Especially like on the grounds of like, I think that you're an image.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You look different.
unidentified		That's crazy.
		That's not even okay.
		That's not even okay to think about.
		And on a on a societal level, that's all true and fair.
		Um, but on an InfoWars level, on an Alex Police Stady kind of level.
		Yeah, it's just flagrant.
		It's so flagrantly wrong and against what he pretended to care about that like it's it's a parody.
		It's it's against what anybody pretends to care about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Like that it is it is just I don't I just don't know how you can talk yourself into oh, yeah.
		So if you're in a car, you jump out, grab an unsuspecting person, get them into the car with handcuffs, and then drive away real fast as a okay sequence of events.
		I think I can come up with one scenario.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Um it's a birthday party party.
		Yeah, yeah.
		That's one.
		Same place, yep.
		Two, all right.
		Prank show.
		Prank shows.
		That sounds right.
		If Eric Andre grabs you, but even then if Eric Andre grabs you, you kind of know what's up.
		I just watched uh Jackass Forever.
		Yeah.
		Finally got around to it.
		It's over.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Eric Andre is in there.
unidentified		I know, he's great.
		Yeah, yeah.
		Yeah.
		Got hit trying to get a coffee.
		It's really fun.
		I feel like any time they have a thing that an inflatable thing that pops out, yeah.
		Fuck, I'll laugh every time.
		I don't care.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You could do it a thousand times.
unidentified		It's still funny.
		I have watched the hand slap the guy holding the tray of drinks.
		I can I can't even tell you how many times.
		It's just never, yeah, I could never not watch it.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		Gold.
		I think we should stop the show right now and watch it.
		I think that we need to invest.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, fuck 24-hour news.
unidentified		Yeah.
		24-hour people being hit by things that are inflating.
		Oh my God.
		What are we doing?
		That'll save society.
		We've done everything wrong.
		So they say in life that the apple does not fall far from the tree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		And in that case, uh, we have Rex.
		Son of Alex Jones.
		Right.
		Rex Jones.
		Rex son of Alex.
		The apple has not fallen far from the trees.
		Oh, he's on the show.
		He is.
		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He shows up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alright.
unidentified		And many people would think, like, okay, Alex's son carrying on his legacy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		That would mean him getting deep into communist conspiracies and John Birch society stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		But it turns out it's really he's into supplements.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, Rex was like 10 years old.
unidentified		He would hang around here at the office here at these studios.
		That's how long we've been there.
		He's 22 now.
		He'd be like, you're 10 then.
		We've already been there a few years.
		And we just point a camera at him, and he was already so politically informed, he would do a great job.
		People say, how's that kid reading the script?
		Or does he have a teleprompter?
		The answer was no, we just play one of those clips going to the last break.
		But Rex's real genius, as he runs some online stores and on his own is doing a great job the last few years, is chemistry and supplement development.
		Yeah.
		He's carrying on my legacy as a fence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, as as a as as in the in the in a vacuum, not forcing your political beliefs on your child, I guess, is good.
unidentified		I don't think that's happening.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it's happened either.
unidentified		But in this in this small area where we're leaving out any possibility, let's say that this child has left all that stuff behind, but grabbed the one little piece that he could hang on to, which is the chemistry involved in supplements, and then took that little piece and made something out of his life.
		I don't think he's also into the chemistry of supplement development.
		I think his name is on some businesses so Alex can uh provide money.
		Probably illegally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But like I I think that there's something uh really interesting about this, and that like if you are Alex Jones' son.
unidentified		Yeah, obviously you're gonna want to make your dad proud.
unidentified		You know, there he there is a desire to live up to the expectations that he has clearly like you're his firstborn son, you have the race memory of like your Paul Atreides, you know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like there's a real pressure to being this uh this heir.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Um and you you know, you're gonna live with that for a while.
		And yeah.
		I think when what Alex is describing at the beginning there is the way that you do it first.
		Is like I want to get into this politics stuff and impress my dad with my repetition of things that W. Cleon Scousen said.
		But then over time you realize your dad doesn't give a fuck about that stuff.
		He cares about the supplements.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's about the business.
unidentified		He wants to sell these supplements.
		All right.
		And so now, in order to try and make your dad proud, you sell CBD.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alright.
unidentified		Okay.
		So we're talking about the evolution of daddy issues.
		Yeah.
		Over time.
		And I think that this is a more sincere one.
		I agree.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		Interesting.
		The true legacy and the true trying to get dad's attention is starting your own supplement business.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		I mean, any dad with a huge personality often leaves issues in their wake.
		Sure.
		A dad with this personality cannot help but leave a trash behind.
		Oh, you know.
		Garbage island.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified		Yeah, and and I think that uh if I were Rex, I probably would recognize quite accurately that nothing I do is ever gonna be better than Nick.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified		Nick Fuentes is going to be able to outcircle you in terms of uh rhetoric, politics, all of this stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, like, why would you ever try to impress your dad down that route?
unidentified		Go the other way.
		Get big.
		Yeah, get swole.
		There's something Nick can't compete with.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that's under your dad's name in a business that's probably funneling money on.
unidentified		Yeah, I mean, it's totally legal, though.
		Yes.
		Be do things that are totally legal for your dad to hide money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That has always worked well in the past.
unidentified		The family business.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified		So um, Alex, you know, he's he's talking about a bunch of bullshit, and who gives a shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But towards the end of the show, in the fourth hour, Chase Geyser takes over.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I thought that there was a moment that is so funny.
unidentified		We're talking about Trump and Putin meeting to try and end a war that Alex thinks is gonna lead to a nuclear apocalypse.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have uh troops taking over DC, and Alex is like, yeah, I think it's fine that you know, feds snatching people up at protests because they're immigrants, it's fine.
unidentified		What are you gonna do?
		Right.
		You have all this, and Chase is going to interview the person who won a truck in an InfoWars raffle.
		And just in a few minutes, we're gonna be joined by Cheryl and Tim Schoener, who won the Ford Larry absolutely incredible family, incredible inspiration to see all of the supporters.
		It's one of my favorite things is when the winners of the giveaways come.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		We don't talk about the giveaways very often on this network because frankly, it's hard to go from talking about I don't know, World War III about ready to blow up right in front of our faces, conflicts with Iran, Epstein files, the existential threat that we're in as a species because of people like Bill Gates blocking out the sun, the Faucies getting away with murdering tens of thousands, if not millions of people, the major pharmaceutical companies.
unidentified		You go from all this coverage of MRNA vaccines and just total bioengineering and then the technocratic takeover and the artificial intelligence wars that we're in with the CCP and the fact that everything seems to be at a critical point in history, and then you go, hey, by the way, if you go to the store, 10x entries on the new truck.
		It's hard to pitch it.
		Yeah, yeah, it is.
		It does feel incongruous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now that you put it like that, specifically exactly like that, I think you have already made the argument for yourself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		I think uh you are revealing that you have a human self-consciousness about doing something super shady and uh performative.
		Oh, Chase.
		I do like the little moments of self-awareness that he can offer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Because I I think that if you didn't realize that saying this kind of reveals how artificial all of the very serious things you're listening are.
		Um if you didn't realize that, then this is a really this is a normal thing to feel.
		That is a tough pitch.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that's a tough pitch.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		It it's not that hard for Alex, and that's why he does bring up the raffles uh periodically.
		He's he's got the ability.
		He has no problem making that jump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
unidentified		Uh but for someone like Chase who maybe is uh a little connected to his humanity still, uh he understands it's fucked up to be like, hey, we're all dying because of a bioweapon attack that these people have made and they're trying to block out the sun.
		Yeah.
		Um also, hey, if you buy our dumb pills, uh, you could win a truck.
		I mean, what's funny to me about it though is that when you condense it down like that, right?
		It feels like you guys are overreacting in a way of of like, see, look, there's like a million things to kill you right now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Calm it down.
unidentified		Just do a truck.
		You know, it's not gonna kill you.
		Raffles.
		Right?
		Have fun.
		Have fun.
		At any moment, it could all be over.
		So have a raffle.
		And and I think that this is like I think we've talked about it a little bit in the past, but like there's something so old radio station about raffling off a truck.
		Yep.
		It feels like your local radio station is trying to generate some kind of publicity.
		And that that's the world that Alex comes from.
		Yeah.
		Is old radio.
		Yeah.
		And so this makes total sense to him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Like, this is what we're gonna do.
		It's gonna be fucking huge.
		We're gonna raffle these trucks off.
		No, there's a plot of that 70s show that is one of those like lip hold your hand on the car contests and you win.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like that's where we're at.
unidentified		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is the this is the old time show.
unidentified		Except we haven't gotten to the point where there's a contest yet.
		There's just a raffle.
		That's true.
		Um But hey, it's silly.
		We'll get there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's silly and it's fucking stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I love the idea that we're talking about all this serious stuff, and then the last hour of the show is talking to someone who won a truck.
unidentified		I think that's great.
		I I mean, here's the weird part.
		I really do think that's great.
		Well, it's like the like Alex talking about butter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, like just do your shit, talk about this truck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come on, man.
unidentified		Just have a good time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I I was the the reason that I went I I played that clip is like it's such a encapsulation of what I'm I'm talking about.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Like Chase is trying to be a little bit defensive about how difficult it is thematically to have this show that's about all this like you're gonna die, you're gonna die, we have a raffle.
		Yeah.
		Uh it's a hard sell.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a hard pitch.
unidentified		I think there's something within.
		Now, I'm I may be reading too much into this, but I think through that little clip right there, there's something within him going like I think I want to do something else.
		I think I want to do a different kind of radio.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think he really likes radio.
unidentified		Probably.
unidentified		I really think he does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think he wants to be like a zookru guy.
unidentified		There's at least some piece of him that has to recognize the artificiality of this.
		And and like how difficult it is to keep sincerity uh an image of sincerity when this is the totality of what you do.
		Yeah.
		Like you contain all of this.
		Yeah.
		It's like, no, you're silly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is stupid shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		Stop trying to make me think you actually believe that COVID was a fucking bioweapon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now tell me more about this truck.
unidentified		Tell me more about the great truck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Tell me more about the great truck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, another thing, I don't know if I've pointed this out, but Alex has a couple times mentioned that there's still daggers available.
unidentified		Ooh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that is worrying.
unidentified		Because those should have sold.
		Daggers should sell.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		He he I don't remember exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it was like a thousand or two thousand of them that he bought.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And like he should be able to sell two thousand daggers.
unidentified		I think that tells us what age level of audience is still sticking around.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		People who are too old for daggers.
unidentified		People who are old enough for survival foods and supplements, but not young enough to want a dagger anymore.
unidentified		Someone who doesn't trust that they could stab.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't think a dagger's doing too much for most of his uh unless they're like displaying it, which I don't know if you're buying an InfoWars dagger to put behind glass.
unidentified		I mean it's it's got like a like a burning of Alex's signature in it.
		So like you know it's a it's a commemorative piece.
		It's uh it's a little it's a conversation piece for sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		It'll start a conversation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well look those daggers may not all be gone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		But every time they ramble off a truck, someone's getting it.
unidentified		Chase will be there to give it to you and to ask you how you feel about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		How do they feel about it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great.
unidentified		Yeah?
		It's a good truck.
		It is and how long is the interview?
		Uh I mean it uh most of the uh Chase's do not give him a full hour for you know maybe not the full hour but they you know spend more time than you need to on hey I got a truck.
		What do they talk about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The truck that's it they all talk that like there's no like follow up on like what's going on in your lives that you're gonna use.
unidentified		I mean there's some human interest how do you feel about Bill Gates killing all of your family.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well I'm worried about the sun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See there you go and my son.
unidentified		He's blocking gonna do without the sun where's Rex So anyway this was just a little ride I wanted to go on was uh seriousness to truck giveaway.
		Um but uh we'll be back for another episode and uh you know dive into a little bit more about the police state yeah stuff and and how how this uh this whole thing is it sits with his career.
		It's it's it's the only thing that I think is important.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's fascinating.
unidentified		Um and I don't think that he's going to be all that helpful in learning about what's important about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very doubtful.
unidentified		Um so we'll try and figure out an angle on that uh for next time but until then we website indeed we do it's NT.com yep uh we'll be back uh but hey go out there and get some Utz lemonade not sponsored but crazy crazy that it's good it is good and also we have uh show or something some tickets or whatever but there's that's lemonade seriously happy labor day we'll be back uh but until then I'm Neo I'm Leo I'm DZX Clark I am the mysterious professor.

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