#1052: June 13-14, 2025
In this installment, Dan and Jordan check back in to see how Alex is holding up in the ongoing Second Civil War, and how he responds to the news of the Minnesota lawmaker shootings.
July 4, 2025 - Knowledge Fight
01:31:40
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| Andy and Kansas. | ||
| Andy and Kandy and Stop it. | ||
| Andy and Kansas. | ||
| Andy and Kansas. | ||
| Andy. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy and Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for all of us. | ||
|
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So Alex, I'm a different color. | |
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your word. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| Not knowledgefight dot com dot I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple of dudes. | ||
| We like to sit around, worship at the altar of Sleen and talk a little bit about Alex Jordan. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| Which bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| My bright spot today is we're back. | ||
| We're back. | ||
| We're back here. | ||
| And I had a very nice trip. | ||
| We both went on trips. | ||
| We did. | ||
| I went, I think that our trips illustrate our personalities. | ||
| That when we decide to take a little bit of a vacation, you decide to go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To my wife and I went to Costa Rica to essentially go on adventures. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I went to my hometown to relive traumatic memories of past places. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So I went back to Columbia, Missouri. | ||
| It was a very nice time. | ||
| All in all, great to see my boy Burger again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| Shout out to Swaring Jin. | ||
| But probably the best thing I' was I got to go back to Forum 8, the theater I worked at for many years. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I thought that I would get really emotional within the projection booth if they'd let me up there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it was a negotiation to get up there. | ||
| Okay, I will say that. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| I went and I asked the person at the concession stand to talk to the manager. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the manager comes over and he thinks, I think he thinks I was up to spionage. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| He's like, leave your name and number, I'll talk to my manager. | ||
| A dirty commy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I went to go see a movie and then came out and they let me up there. | ||
|
unidentified
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Right. | |
| He had like cleared me. | ||
| I checked with McCarthy. | ||
|
unidentified
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Good, good. | |
| I got the all good. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| But I went upstairs and there's no film anymore. | ||
| There's just digital projectors. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so that wasn't like all that overwhelming. | ||
| But then we came down the stairs from the projection booth and right near the stairs is the back exit that goes out to the dumpster. | ||
| And I immediately was like, I gotta go out to the dumpster. | ||
|
unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| I gotta go out there. | ||
| That's where we used to get high. | ||
| Of course, yeah. | ||
| Smoke cigarettes. | ||
| Scene of the crime. | ||
| I started smoking cigarettes just to go out there on breaks with the managers and be cool. | ||
| And so we go out there. | ||
| and the manager was telling me, like, you know, hey, we have this state-of-the-art dumpster. | ||
| And I was like, My man, that was there when I was right. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But there was a pole, a little pole that's coming out of the ground. | ||
| It's not connected to anything. | ||
| It might have been at some point. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But back when I used to work there, we would smoke cigarettes and put them in the pole. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because the pole had an open top. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Fools. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We filled it up. | ||
| And instead of cleaning it out, we just taped it over. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| And it was always this thing that was there. | ||
| There's like this taped over pole, and it's full of our cigigarette butts. | ||
|
unidentified
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Right. | |
| And out by the dumpster, it was still there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I was like, hey man, do you know why that's taped over? | ||
| The tape was still on top of it too? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
|
unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| So I told him, and I was like, man, this is great. | ||
| This is fun to be connected to a piece of lore. | ||
| This physical thing is still here. | ||
| And he was like, you gotta clean that up, buddy. | ||
| No, he was charmed by it. | ||
| He seemed like he dug it. | ||
|
unidentified
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Okay. | |
| And it was kind of cool, be able, like, hey, here's a little secret. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
|
unidentified
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We live in the present now, but I used to be in the past. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And that pole was there, both. | ||
| That's a concept. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that the pole that I. used to put cigarette butts in was probably a high point of that. | ||
| That's actually pretty interesting and fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So what about you? | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot is obviously the trip. | ||
| My wife and I went on our, we didn't have a honeymoon, and she's turning forty this year, so we did it up. | ||
| I did it all by myself. | ||
| I did the whole planet and all that stuff. | ||
| Except for the sun cream. | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, she's the responsible one. | ||
| But like you know, I was thinking about it. | ||
| And I was thinking about competition, playing sports. | ||
| You know, sometimes you can do everything right and it still just goes wrong. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's just how it works. | ||
| Sometimes it doesn't matter what you do. | ||
| You're just fucked that day, you know? | ||
| And sometimes you do a good job and things work out well. | ||
| And then sometimes you just have those days where you're just fucking everything works. | ||
| Everything works without effort. | ||
| And that was what this trip was. | ||
| It could not have been better. | ||
| It was just nailed from start to finish. | ||
| And so it was great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| What a wonderful vacation. | ||
| It was awesome. | ||
| It was really I jumped in in off a canyon thing about about thirty five feet or whatever it was. | ||
| I jumped off of there. | ||
| And normally I'm afraid of heights and my wife was worried whenever we were started doing this one that I was goingn't going to do all the jumps into the, into the water. | ||
| But do you know what she didn't know? | ||
| She didn't know that in my head. | ||
| I was wondering, I was like, this is a little bit like the challenge. | ||
| We're like going to a we're going to a different country. | ||
| He's basically doing a stunt. | ||
| Yeah, we're doing, we're doing a bunch of different things. | ||
| We're going to different places. | ||
| I remember an episode where Leroy doesn't do the jump in the Canyon Earing and he doesn't jump into the river. | ||
| And then I thought, you know what? | ||
| I wouldn't disappoint TJ. | ||
| Jumped. | ||
| Boats. | ||
| I don't disappoint TJ. | ||
| That's what happens. | ||
| He hates quitters. | ||
| He hates quitters. | ||
| That kept that I would be I would be lying if I didn't tell you that TJ helped me make that jump. | ||
| I think for people of our generation and our age that he's inspired a lot of adrenaline based decisions. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, it's fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I like I think that it's just incredibly on brand for our characters that you went and jumped into a Canyon in Costa Rica. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I cried while walking my paper wrap from when I was a kid. | ||
| So. | ||
| There. | ||
| And that both of us think that's a vacation. | ||
| Sometimes emblematic things can't be on point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| We're going to be talking about june 13th and 14th, 2025. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Last we left off, the United States was in a civil war. | ||
| Yes, it was. | ||
| How's that going? | ||
| It had been declared. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Well. | ||
| And Alex had announced that the 14th was the start date of the fifth jump off, yeah. | ||
| God was pushing everyone towards that date. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So we're going to see what happened on the 13th and the 14th. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walls. | ||
| Ooh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, ChewyVee, we support your recovery and remind you, tackle it one day at a time. | ||
| Thank you so much, you're now, Polzzy Wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
|
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Thank you. | |
| Next, hey, Dan and Jordan, thank you so much for making the wow classic grind a lot more fun. | ||
| John S. Thank you so much, you're now, Polzzy Wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I realized that's World of Warcraft, but when I saw Classic Grind, I forgot that that was what it was, and I thought of MTV's the grind. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| I don't know how we would help that. | ||
| That would also be classic, though. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And happy Pride, all you radical rainbows. | ||
| I love you all. | ||
| Thank you so much, you're now, Polzzy Wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And we had Tank of Crat in the mixture. | ||
| So thank you so much to the paddle, not the other paddle, but this one, this very one. | ||
| Don't confuse them with the other one. | ||
| Thank you so much, you are now Tank of Crat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Four stars. | ||
| Go honk your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Sharp, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little, little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
| Now let me make a quick correction. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That was Patty. | ||
| That was Patty, yeah. | ||
| Yes, yeah. | ||
| I read it as paddle, partly because my brain started reading it and I thought it was P a play on the cane from news radio. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| And I thought that's what it was, but with a paddle, but it's Patty. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, my apologies. | ||
| This Patty displeases me. | ||
| I'll keep this one. | ||
| This one I keep. | ||
| So Alex here is on the thirteenth, and a lot of the show is a dud. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not interested in a whole lot of the nonsense that he's got going on. | ||
| He has Daniel Estelin on, because I guess Bilderberg is happening around this time. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| But he has another guest on his show on the thirteenth that I think bodes poorly. | ||
| All right, we could not have a Patty better guest on right now. | ||
| He was Ron Paul Staffer, award winning lawyer for major policy ideas and things he developed. | ||
| And a Grammy. | ||
| Of course, a paratrooper and the founder of the Oathkeepers, and then the main guy of all the people that got demonized, Joe Biggs, Enrico Tario, great guys did absolutely nothing wrong. | ||
| Political prisoners, pardoned by the president or commuted in his case, put in the Gulag, never broke his will, said Trump was going to win reelection, said we were going to turn it around, and came out of prison stronger because I've known this guy for a long time than before. | ||
| And he was strong then. | ||
| I think you look younger than before J six. | ||
| What the hell is going to a time machine or something? | ||
| I'm getting jealous here. | ||
| Prison does that to you. | ||
| That's what I heard inmates say, it preserves you. | ||
| Remember Bannon came out, he looked pretty rough before, and he looked like twenty years younger when he came out. | ||
| So what an incredible time. | ||
| You can talk to the globalist, ChiCom, Democratic Party, all confirmed. | ||
| Uprising that they've got going to Mar, that's just beta tested so far. | ||
| Bannon might have looked better because he didn't have booze in prison. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There are a lot of things that Bannon didn't have access to that he does to himself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the United States is in a civil war, as Alex has already declared. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're on the eve of the big wave that Alex is saying is kicking off tomorrow. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Not the best guest to book necessarily, the guy who stormed the Capitol with his militia gang and tried to turn the 2020 election. | ||
| But yeah. | ||
| Certainly, you know, it fits. | ||
| I mean, I suppose his book would be titled The Short Waddle to Freedom. | ||
| Something along those lines. | ||
| Because not the inspiring figure that he wish probably I don't it's really interesting to think about like what he must be feeling. | ||
| Like, because if he does feel like there's a civil war, he must feel pretty boldened. | ||
| You think? | ||
| Because I don't think you can do anything really all that worse than trying to overthrow an election. | ||
| I mean, like in terms of crimes against the community, against Yeah. | ||
| So I feel like he must think that as long as he's doing something for Trump, he can do anything. | ||
| I mean, you'd think that, but man, maybe he doesn't Okay, here's what I'd say say, right? | ||
| I'd say that unlike Roger Stone's pardon, where it was clear that from this point on, Roger Stone is my Tony in all ways. | ||
| I feel like they already were on that show. | ||
|
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Sure, sure, sure. | |
| For sure. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| But I'm sorry. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I don't see that happening with him because the pardons were different. | ||
| This was a little bit of a weird, right? | ||
| Somebody's saying, like, without the gun rights being reinstated and stuff. | ||
| If I'm dealing with the deal maker as I, as what he believes Trump to be, and I see that I'm not getting the same sweetheart deal as other people, I'm staying. | ||
| back. | ||
| You know, I'm not staying back and standing by. | ||
| I'm standing by because I'm letting other people do the you need a pardon shit for a while. | ||
| That's what I'm thinking. | ||
| Yeah, that might be, that might be. | ||
| I'm conflicting between like the I think I can do anything I want now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or I got away with a crazy thing. | ||
| I mean crazy. | ||
| I'm going to be pretty clean for the rest of my life. | ||
| Ooh boy, I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, it's like, do you buy a shit ton of lottery tickets or do you just go away? | ||
| I don't think you can go away. | ||
| I don't think if you're the type of person who leads an insurrection, I don't think you can not do it again. | ||
| If you get the chance. | ||
| There is it does feel like in for a petty in for a pound situation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So tomorrow is the No Kings protest. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And it's the big one. | ||
| We have Anapolina Luna and other members of Congress saying they've been showing the intelligence and that this Black Lives Matter, leptist committee consortium funded by the billionaires, the ChICOMs, the NGOs, No Kings are planning and are dressing up like MAGA supporters to attack people tomorrow across the country. | ||
| So J six, two point zero, the false flag, the Kent State, I don't think there's a question if this is the big one, they're going for the destabilization podesta break up the country plan. | ||
| that's public and is treasonist, they should be prosecuted. | ||
| The question is, will it fizz out? | ||
| Will it be a dud? | ||
| They're going with the big one. | ||
| This is the big fabled one. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| All of it happening now is fabled. | ||
| The question is, can we navigate this? | ||
| Will it sputter and fail? | ||
| Stuart Rhodes is our guest, gibsongo dot com comma So you didn't read Aesops a little bit about the No Kings protest? | ||
| The No Kings Fable I have not read. | ||
| How does that, does the, does the, does the tortoise win that one or is that more of a hair gig? | ||
| No, you get eaten by a witchch. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| That's a dark fable. | ||
| I mean, that's fair. | ||
| That's how they usually end. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I I'm now at the point, I think, and maybe I've been in this point for a little bit where I've heard Alex say, This is the big one too many times. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I feel like for a long time he was pretty careful to be like, There's a big one coming eventually. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And now he's just throwing it around like it's lollipops at the doctor's office. | ||
| It feels cheaper. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Everything feels a lot cheaper. | ||
| We're seeing, to put it this way., we're watching the wrong jaws because we're seeing a lot of sharks. | ||
| We're seeing too much shark here. | ||
| Right, this is like Deep Blue Sea. | ||
| They show the shark himself. | ||
| Too much, too much shark. | ||
| Give us a little suspense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Stuart has a plan. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And that is that Trump should just like make him the army. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| What President Trump can do that's unique is he has the authority that was already provided by Congress many times, many, you know, back at the start of the founding, the Militia Acts provide for calling for the militia. | ||
| He can call us all up and us veterans until 1864. | ||
| I believe he should. | ||
| I think what he should say is given the reality of an invasion, of an insurrection. | ||
| of a rebellion, of a necessity to execute the laws of the Union. | ||
| I'm calling forth the militia, not just the National Guard, but the rest of the militia, which is the unorganized militia. | ||
| I'm going to call you together and order you to organize yourselves in your counties with the veterans instructed to take command and then organize and train the other men. | ||
| You stay in your counties until the president gives you any further orders, but you get yourselves ready. | ||
| And why that's important is then you're getting yourself trained up and organized for the inevitable October 7th style attacks that are going to come. | ||
| Or the whether that's right. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| The first dead men that didn't create a civil unrest last year. | ||
| They're doing it at the beginning. | ||
| Right, and it's going to keep going. | ||
| So I don't understand what difference there really is between the way things currently are and what Stewart wants Trump to do. | ||
| He and his militia buddies can clearly organize to their heart's content and prepare for whatever terror attack they foresee coming. | ||
| He seems to want to have the official sanction of the state on his little army, but I think it's clear that he already kind of has that since they tried to overturn an election on Trump's behalf, then Trump got them out of jail when he got back in office. | ||
| In every meaningful way, Trump has called Stewart and the Oathkeepers and the Proud Boys up as a militia. | ||
| Maybe he hasn't done that through official government channels, but Stewart wouldn't want that. | ||
| That would lead him having to submit to some form of oversight or regulation, and Stewart doesn't like that shit. | ||
| That makes being a petty tyrant less fun when there are rules. | ||
| Basically what I'm saying is that if he's communicating his objectives sincerely, he's achieved them. | ||
| There is no difference between the world he envisions and the world he envisions. | ||
| Well, I mean, there's the perception different. | ||
| There's the public perception difference. | ||
| In one situation, he is essentially a Duke Bandit King. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Highwaymening his way through the middle of nowhere, causing problems. | ||
| Armies that run small towns. | ||
| To do what exactly? | ||
| To Sell merch. | ||
| What are we talking about? | ||
| To take over counties? | ||
| That's your plan? | ||
| To sell merch. | ||
| We're going to do a county by county takeover and then what? | ||
| You're going to hold municipal government earring? | ||
| Of course you're not. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You fucking lunatics. | ||
| And then we're going to tax everyone. | ||
| I mean, collect dues. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like, what are you talking about? | ||
| Organize garbage. | ||
| Or you're going to organize garbage pickup. | ||
| That's what they're going to do. | ||
| Hey, that would be nice. | ||
| It would be nice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would like them to have municipal duties to see why they don't do them. | ||
| No, because those they're boring. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Let regular people just do their jobs. | |
| No, we want to shoot things. | ||
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Then go into the woods and stay there. | |
| No, because civic government annoys me. | ||
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If that sounds true, that if that was the conversation that would actually I'd be like, yeah, that's fair enough. | |
| I guess you're right. | ||
| I guess that it does annoy you. | ||
| Baby, I don't want to be told that I have to trim this hedge. | ||
| You're a giant baby, but I guess I can't really argue with a baby now, can I? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, um, Alex seems to think that there's a flow chart to how things work in Stewart's Militia Utopia. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And Stewart seems to have a completely different chart. | ||
| These guys are not connecting. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And the real answer is the founders' answer was we the people, the militia. | ||
| Now President Trump can call us up right now. | ||
| No governor can stop him because you're being called into federal service. | ||
| And he can organize us by the county like that. | ||
| And he should. | ||
| And then the sheriff's department can weed out, you know, quickly who they don't want. | ||
| The sheriff would have nothing to do with that. | ||
| It would be the President of the United States. | ||
| But I would imagine under that command, though, the states would be brought in to organize under that. | ||
| If they're cooperating, they could. | ||
| But my point is that under federal statutes, the president has No, I understand that. | ||
| So I guess that he would design do it. | ||
| He would say the military men who live in that county come together, the veterans, and that's who he puts in command. | ||
| Now he might use a National Guard general to go oversee them. | ||
| He could certainly do that. | ||
| Or an active duty army general. | ||
| He could do that too. | ||
| Or marine corps. | ||
| He certainly could. | ||
| He could insert his chain of command into the state and make sure that the men are organized properly and that they're not doing anything they shouldn't be doing. | ||
| But my point is, is that he can go around the governors like Newsom. | ||
| He can go around any traitorous county leader. | ||
| And let's be clear, the Podesta plan from August of 2020, which they said they're implementing this time, if Trump didn't get it stolen, if they couldn't overthwrite him, they were going to go to full insurrection, blue state city secession, shut down the country and drive him from power. | ||
| Then they made the movie Civil War with a $300 million budget two years ago, released last year. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| Pre war gaming and pre programming. | ||
| This is happening. | ||
| They're trying this. | ||
| So this clip is a really good encapsulation of how not on the same page these guys are when it comes to details. | ||
| They have the same vibe, which is to overthrow democracy and install a king, but they're talking different languages. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex imagines a militia that's based in a sheriff, because the sheriff is the highest legitimate form of law enforcement that the extreme right states rights kind of the extreme right wing folks, that ideology that he grew up in, they fetishized the sheriff. | ||
| Yes, makes perfect sense. | ||
| He imagines the sheriff brings together a posse and then they do Trump's bidding. | ||
| Stewart's more in favor of just letting veterans form their own organization completely outside of any recognized chain of command under the president, because that way he can become a warlord just carrying out Trump's bidding without the pesky sheriff. | ||
| Yeah, don't eat it. | ||
| You can see from exchanges like that one how they really aren't speaking the same language, but they know they both fundamentally want the same thing. | ||
| Also, since the last time we recorded, I finally got to see that Civil War movie, and it's nothing like what Alex made me think it was going to be. | ||
| Not even close. | ||
| He says that the Nick Offerman character is a Trump stand-in. | ||
| And I think if you say that, you're telling on yourself. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| A little bit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That movie seems to go out of its way to not be political, and the Civil War itself isn't really well defined on purpose. | ||
| It's a story about combat reporting and how journalism gives you PTSD. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think Alex saw that movie. | ||
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No. | |
| I think he brings it up. | ||
| And I think if he did see it, I think he would be super bored. | ||
| Yeah, it's a really boring movie for him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not about two giant tanks. | ||
| shooting at each other and one of them has a big red, white and blue penis on it that he can root for. | ||
| It's about characters being in pain. | ||
| And Kristen Dunts not wanting this younger girl to be in the same pain that she is. | ||
| That's Oh well. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Next. | ||
| Really small story, all things considered. | ||
| I like, here's what I like. | ||
| I like that on the eve of this No Kings protest that Alex is trying to discredit as being a bullshit and not about the very, very thing that it is about. | ||
| Stuart Rhodes is asking for a president to have a singular army. | ||
| that he has unilateral control over, without any oversight whatsoever. | ||
| That is organized on a county basis, with veterans and weirdos who are willing to throw the government on behalf of Trump. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Loyalists like that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That is literally serfdom, that's what it was, that's the whole idea of it. | ||
| That was the thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, these guys are not subtle. | ||
| They're not good at this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex continues down this road of like, tomorrow is the day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's really the vibe you'd be getting if you were watching his show at this point. | ||
| What do you think of Anna Polly Luna and and others saying they've seen the photos, the documents from law enforcement. | ||
| The left we already talked about it, but this is big. | ||
| They're planning, they are dressing up like us and causing bedlam tomorrow. | ||
| We've got to get this information out to everybody. | ||
| Everybody watching this needs to share this. | ||
| When we archive this in a few hours on X from the show, you've got to share this. | ||
| He's going on Owen right when the show, my broadcast ends in 22 minutes. | ||
| He's walking over there, the war room, 3 p.m. | ||
| This is critical. | ||
| We've proven we This is what we do. | ||
| Stewart does this full time. | ||
| Back we worked for Ron Paul decades ago. | ||
| I do this full time. | ||
| This is what we do. | ||
| We defend the Republic. | ||
| We defend our freedoms. | ||
| We and information and trust.uth is the antidotum to what's about to go down. | ||
| So we scream full time and really agitate people and incite them about how tomorrow is the day. | ||
| That's what they do, full time. | ||
| Yeah, we cosplay a TV show for money. | ||
| Mm. | ||
| Great. | ||
| So the Commys? | ||
| Yeah, what about them? | ||
| They're going to do false flags the next day. | ||
| Right, they're dressing like the people in order to false flag you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, I can't think of anything less useful at this point than a false flag. | ||
| Yeah, I I would tend to agree withree with you. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think that people are a little jaded and desensibilized. | ||
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| In a way that it hasn't felt like for a long time. | ||
| I think that Alex's stuff feels a little sillier in 2025 than it did, certainly, even just a few years ago. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But yeah, apparently some Communists are going to dress up like Trump supporters in order to attack other Communists. | ||
| In order to make Trump supporters look like they want to attack Communists. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Although the Trump supporters really do want to attack Communists. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Quite a bit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And do. | ||
| They do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| I think because the false flag is either about getting public opinion on your side or like creating a certain Cassius Belly kind of thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think you don't need either for anyone at this point. | ||
| If you want a reason, you got it. | ||
| And I think that that extends to some of the other use that this has for Alex, which is pacification of his audience. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| If something were to happen at these protests, like a Trump supporter just machine guns people down, sure. | ||
| I think that you have a risk of some of them being horrified by this. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And for Alex to have it preemptively set up as, no, it's all fakeake. | ||
| These are just people attacking themselves. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There is a pacification that he can hope to achieve from that. | ||
| And people will just keep buying the products and ra ra the info war. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the other thing between, other than like the Cossus belly and the other option. | ||
| Just allowing it to happen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Make sure, like, desensitize yourself. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, that's going to happen tomorrow. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| If the Commons are able to get a real rebellion going other than Iceland areas and they say they're hitting a thousand areas to kill a dictator. | ||
| One thousand areas. | ||
| Gut level, do you think it's going to go big or it's going to fizzle? | ||
| Well, it depends on what happens. | ||
| I think if they want that Kent State moment, then it would go big. | ||
| It would be like the George Floyd protest. | ||
| They would use that. | ||
| Oh, that's the plan. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that's what you want to deny them. | ||
| So right now when you But they're going to do it to themselves. | ||
| It might, right. | ||
| So they just I'm predicting it may not be tomorrow. | ||
| I'm predicting they may obviously throw people down. | ||
| They're doing it. | ||
| They're doing it. | ||
| Geared up like this to not do it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I'm for. | ||
| Or maybe they Oklahoma City truck bomb them so they can kind of have plausible nihility. | ||
| So whether they do it through a false flag or whether it's a real insurrection that rises up, I think it's coming. | ||
| See, that just that's just not happened. | ||
| No, but overnight. | ||
| This gentleman, a guy in Minnesota did shoot a bunch of people. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He went to the houses of a state senator and a state representative and killed the representative and her husband and wounded the state senator and his wife. | ||
| And yeah, so that did happen overnight. | ||
| So Alex normally would be off on a Saturday. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But there were these murders. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he's established that this is the beginning of the fifth wave. | ||
| So he wants to be on air to watch the protests and like talk about it. | ||
| If there's a bomb that goes off somewhere, he wants to be able to like be covered. | ||
| Yeah, he has to be on the air when it happens. | ||
| Right. | ||
| When the shit goes off, you have to be there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You can't say the big shit's happening on the 14th and then not do a show on the 14th. | ||
| I'm going to take a day off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he does come in for a Saturday show. | ||
| And he starts off with a little bit of coverage about the shootings in Minnesota. | ||
| Probably great. | ||
| We also have the No Kings Democratic Party, Chycom Consortium. | ||
| with reportedly over a thousand locations to have disruption and violent uprisings that have already begun in many parts of the country as we go into day. | ||
| Number eight of the political violence promised by the Democratic Party. | ||
| And then as soon as I saw this break about three hours ago, two Democratic lawmakers and their spouses shot. | ||
| One lawmaker dead, her husband dead, the other two in critical condition. | ||
| I thought, let me look up their voting record. | ||
| And they had been Democrats that were coming over the Republican Party and were reportedly about to join the Republican Party. | ||
| And one of them particularly had just voted to not give illegal aliens free health care coverage. | ||
| And I immediately thought, oh, I wonder if it's kind of part two how they've Democrat parties even got bills named after the shooter of the New York health care insurance company executive. | ||
| We've got polls of Democrats up to 80% praising it saying there's going to be more killings. | ||
| I was just guessing that. | ||
| And now the police identified that the reported alleged shooter they chased off the scene so they're pretty 99% it's him is a Tim Walsh high level appointee and a no kings organizer and had a bunch of the flyers in his car. | ||
| So back in the day when events like this would happen, the people coming up with the talking points to call the shooting a false flag were rightly relegated to really dark corners of the internet like low traffic message boards. | ||
| Alex had a real purpose because he was one of the only people with a real show and he'd built up a fake persona as the guy who reads white papers and secret documents, so he had a unique ability to pass off things that he read on those dumb message boards as something other than what it was. | ||
| He gave a gravitas to it just by the uniqueness of his position. | ||
| He was in that special position where he could take these talking points from fully extreme places. | ||
| He could launder them into slightly less offensive packages so they could reach a possibly wider audience who wouldn't know the kind of shit that they were engaging with. | ||
| But like so many Americans, technology has rendered his job obsolete. | ||
| Twitter is just all of that now. | ||
| It's the home for extreme right wing talking points like the old message boards. | ||
| It's a place with a gullible wider audience of people ready to be drawn in by slightly sanitized versions of those extreme talking points and it's a place where everyone is just as legitimate as anybody else. | ||
| Most people don't even use their real names, so if they want to tell you that they have a doctorate in political science, I'd like to see you disprove it. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Who knows who this fucking ding dong is with a fake name? | ||
| All of this stuff Alex is saying about his immediate reaction to the shootings in Minnesota very well may be his actual thoughts, but they're also exactly what everyone on his side posted on Twitter to try and deflect any questions or responsibility being aimed in their direction. | ||
| No one knew what was going on or who this guy was, but the targets were Democrat lawmakers, and it's very easy as an impulse. | ||
| For people to assume the motive from the target. | ||
| Alex and all of his illk, they knew fully well that they were going to need to be on the defensive because it makes the most sense that a rampaging right wing guy would kill Democratic lawmakers, particularly in a state where the state house was at a complete tie, with both parties having sixty seven members in office until the shooting. | ||
| Alex and all of his contemporaries knew that it's critical to it's very important to avoid any possible insinuation that their rhetoric and incitement had any part of leading up to this crime being carried out. | ||
| So it's key to start fucking with that wet cement before it dries. | ||
| You need to get to work. | ||
| Whatever little things they can come up with have to be weaved into a narrative, so they hope that they can make it strong enough to hold up against the weight of any facts that come to bear upon it once those facts are known. | ||
| So you have these little tidbits of things that Alex found on Twitter. | ||
| The first story that Alex has is about this state house member who was assassinated, Melissa Hortman. | ||
| According to Alex's version, she was becoming a Republican, and she'd voted against giving undocumented immigrants free health care. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Exciting. | ||
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| This has to do with Hortman's recent vote for SSFH one. | ||
| a bill that would strip undocumented people over the age of eighteen for being eligible for participation in Minnesota care. | ||
| To give a little background context on this, Minnesota's legislature had been in the process of trying to pass a two year budget, and in May they announced that they had reached an agreement. | ||
| Part of that agreement was the cutting of Minnesota care access for the undocumented immigrants, but this budget agreement doesn't just become law because the party leaders they all agreed on it. | ||
| In Minnesota, the members of the State House and Senate don't vote on the full budget as a yes or no bill, like one thing. | ||
| They vote on each piece individually. | ||
| Thus, even though they had this agreement for the budget, it could still lead to fights down the road or potential compromises needing to be made between lawmakers. | ||
| Democrats in the House were trying very hard to get the Republicans to budge on the Minnesota Care issue, but it was very clear that this was a hard line for the GOP. | ||
| The GOP also made it fairly clear that they were willing to shut down the government and not vote to pass other areas of the budget if they didn't get their way on this part, which is part of why it ended up passing. | ||
| Hortman was the only member of the DFL to vote for the bill, but it would have passed with or without. | ||
| If she had just abstained, it would have passed. | ||
| I can't see for sure, but I really suspect that she voted the way that she did as a sign of good faith, given her role as the caucus leader and the former speaker of the State House. | ||
| Given other recent votes that she made like voting against trans athlete bands and women's sports, I'm not convinced of Alex's insinuation that she was just about to switch parties. | ||
| Alex is using this narrative to suggest that she was killed by Democrats as a punishment for not towing the line. | ||
| That is why this piece he has pulled from Twitter. | ||
| The next thing Alex is repeating from memes that he saw was that the alleged shooter was a high level Tim Walls appointee and a no king's organization. | ||
| organizer. | ||
| The shooter did have no kings flyers in his car, but that's not evidence that he was an organizer for these protests or even involved. | ||
| The question of the shooter being a Tim Walls appointee is an interesting one though, because there's some truth to that. | ||
| Alex says that he was a high level appointee, but how high level is high level? | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| He was a member of the Minnesota Workforce Development Board. | ||
| Is that high level? | ||
| Or is that mid level? | ||
| No clue. | ||
| Low level, who knows? | ||
| No idea what that is. | ||
| Alex says that Walls appointed him to be on this board because that's supposed to create this connection between him and Walls that cans choose this guy of all people to put on this board, this high level appointment? | ||
| What Alex fails to report is that the shooter was appointed to the board by former governor Mark Dayton in 2016 for a three-year term, and Walls just re-upted his appointment in 2019. | ||
| There's no reason to assume that Walls even really knew who this guy was. | ||
| This is the level of appointment that might be relegated to a lower level staffing decision. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Alex is using this narrative to imply that Walls was in on the killing, probably as the person pulling the strings. | ||
| The specific details of how Alex wants to play this story aren't totally clear yet, but the implications you're supposed to come away from this intro withro with are one the whole country is on fire because of the LA protests and two the shootings of these lawmakers and their families in Minnesota are false flags that were carried out by the left, likely targeting one of their own who they knew was going to defect to the Patriot side soon, probably orchestrated by Tim Walls. | ||
| So that's where we're at. | ||
| Yeah, right out of the gate. | ||
| Yeah, pretty good. | ||
| It's a good start. | ||
| I mean, you know, what else would they say? | ||
| There's nothing else to say. | ||
| You're not going to be like, let's wait and see what the it's right. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| The culver heads prevail. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| The reality is these people have just made themselves irrelevant in every possible way to anyone who is listening. | ||
| Do you know what to do, Alex? | ||
| Yeah, like, if you are doing this, then you're you shouldn't be listened to, period. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, like, it is that simple. | ||
| If you are a person who is like, Well, we figured it out, then you're unlistenable to, period. | ||
| Well, I think that, yeah, I would agree with you generally, but I think that there are some people who just want that immediate knee jerk reaction. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And also you're making yourself irrelevant to them because you're revealing that all you're doing is Twitter shit. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And so that, like, yeah, it's a bummer. | ||
| It's, it's, yeah. | ||
| It's just, it's a depressing. | ||
| You've rendered voices meaningless. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I think that if you're Alex, there is probably like a pretty strange feeling you get when you see that news of I have been ramping up for a while. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That this is the day that the wave of patriot fifth wave breaks and God is pointing us towards this date. | ||
| And this is, these protests are going to be the ones where the Communists take over. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Thousand areas of the country. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just think that you probably have to wake up and see that and be like, oh shit, I gotta do something. | ||
| I mean, people are gonna be looking at me. | ||
| If I'm, if I'm, here's what I'm thinking. | ||
| I'm thinking. | ||
| Well, obviously, I wouldn't be one of them because this is how I think. | ||
| I'm thinking, I hope, if it's like if I'm a Republican, even, I would think like, boy, I hope this doesn't do what I hope this doesn't work. | ||
| Basically, I hope this doesn't succeed in pushing because if I demonstrably prove that political assassinations work. | ||
| That's not good for any politician. | ||
| It's a rough road to go down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's for sure. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I think that if you're able to directly minimize and spin political assassinations. | ||
| Ooh, not good. | ||
| That easily. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Then, I mean, one of the things that I think is incredibly shocking is like how it hasn't been that long and it doesn't feel like this is a story that. | ||
| Not a big deal. | ||
| Not a big deal. | ||
| More. | ||
| That's terrifying. | ||
| Well, I mean, hey, I, you know, Kyle Kinein had a really great bit. | ||
| where he was talking about how one of his favorite genres of film is, oh no, the president's been kidnapped. | ||
| And that's just not fun to watch anymore. | ||
| And now you're just kind of like, well, I mean, man, it's tough out there. | ||
| It's rough. | ||
| It's rough. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I I just, you know, it's a bummer. | ||
| This is all a gigantic bummer. | ||
| I would the information space that this, like containing this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| is a disaster. | ||
| Imagine, okay, so if you can, right, maybe here's Alex's long term plan. | ||
| But we retroactively make it okay for him to have done all the horrible things around Sandy Hook, because now everyone does them. | ||
| Is that a possible? | ||
| Is that a legal argument? | ||
| No, no, no, see, I made everyone on the planet me. | ||
| Now you can't judge me. | ||
| I don't know retroactively. | ||
| I don't know if it's going to help probably, maybe, maybe it'll help him feel better. | ||
| Possible. | ||
| So Alex, you know, he goes to the news about this stuff. | ||
| And by that, of course, I mean he's reading a tweet. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds cracking. | ||
| I'm told by police sources in Minnesota the suspect in the shooting of Minnesota State lawmakers is Vance Luther Bolter. | ||
| And there is a reported photo of Vance Luther Bolter being reported by the Minnesota News, the New York Post and others. | ||
| It appears as the same Bolter who was appointed to the governor's Workforce Deployment Board, 2019. | ||
| He appointed to the governor's Workforce Department Council, 2016. | ||
| Continuing, here is his appointment by the governor. | ||
| Alex is tripping all over himself reading this tweet, and I'm pretty sure the reason why is that he doesn't want to accidentally read something that doesn't work for the narrative. | ||
| All that's important right now is that Walls appointed him to a position and we need to make that position look prestigious. | ||
| Alex can't get any of the words in the name of the board correct, probably because he knows that anyone would hear the name of that board and instantly know that it's probably a volunteer kind of thing. | ||
| He also knows that it's important to preserve the impression that he and Walls have a special connection, so it needs to be brushed aside that the shooter was in that position before Walls. | ||
| Yeah, it doesn't matter. | ||
| No, it doesn't matter. | ||
| It was part of a long game to do the shooting dapping. | ||
| One thing that Alex is really preoccupied with is the danger of optics. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Not surrounding this shooting per se, but the protests that are coming later in the day. | ||
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| They're calling Trump a fascist and a dictator. | ||
| And the White House and Pentagon fear they're going to try to have a Tiananmen Square moment at one of these parades today in DC where people will run out and jump in front of the tanks and try to act like they're being attacked by tanks or something. | ||
| And like we saw with the senator out in California confronting Noam during a TV interview she was doing inside a federal building running up, Hey, I'm gonna get you. | ||
| So they would touch him and say, Who are you? | ||
| And he would fight them and he could say he was being oppressed. | ||
| They're just trying to trigger some type of Tiananmen Square event or Kent State event. | ||
| That's really what they want, but people are really seeing through this now. | ||
| So I've heard this come up a lot on Alex's show in this time period, this fear of the left creating a Kent State or Tiananmen Square moment and how that's bad for Trump's optics. | ||
| I wouldn't worry about that too much if I were him. | ||
| Like we've seen a lot of horrible shit in the past year, pictures and videos that crystallize the severity of the moment. | ||
| The kind of stuff that the characters in that civil war movie that Alex didn't watch would capture and give them PTSD. | ||
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| At the beginning of all this, Trump said that he could shoot someone on the street and not lose support. | ||
| And that's more true now than it was then. | ||
| He could run over someone in a tank, and I don't think it would matter. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| The reason that Alex brings this up a lot is because he knows that it's a possible way that the extreme right could lose popular support. | ||
| If Trump were to roll over someone in a tank, Alex is afraid that the more normy side of the GOP would finally say enough is enough, and that could erode the power base. | ||
| In order for that not to happen, Alex needs to create an atmosphere where Trump driving over someone in a tank is acceptable. | ||
| The easiest way to do that is to preemptively declare that any Kent State or Tiananmen Square type moment is staged by the protesters to make Trump look bad. | ||
| Normally, seeing someone run over by a tank would probably bum you out and make you feel mad at the force that the tank represents because it's a brutal dictator thing and you have an empathetic human response to that. | ||
| By preemptively invalidating any possible event like this from being real, Alex is allowing his audience to cheer on the force that would drive over someone in a tank while getting to pretend that they're still the type of people who wouldn't support that kind of thing. | ||
| They wanted to get run over by the tank, really. | ||
| That's yeah, you know, I don't love watching this person get run over by a tank. | ||
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| I'm not for it. | ||
| But they wanted it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it doesn't really matter if you run him over with the tank, as long as you get the pic, because the guy didn't get run over with the tank. | ||
| They, I mean, you can't prove it, but they totally murdered that guy later. | ||
| Like they just asked him to move out of the way. | ||
| And then because they, we don't know who he is or where he's from and we have no further information about him, one thing you could probably infer from that is that guy is super dead. | ||
| Uh, uh, but I. I, I, like, you understand that the Tiananmen Square moment can't be manufactured unless the one guy driving the tank is like, doing it. | ||
| Like, you could just be like, Hey guys, we're not going to do it. | ||
| We're just not going to do it. | ||
| We're not, everybody, we'll get out of our tanks, we'll go shake the guy's hands, we'll have a good time. | ||
| Like, you have to be running over people with tanks to be the Tiananmen Square moment. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Kent State didn't happen because they like, forced that guy to do all that stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| But I think that Alex knows that the present climate is not restrained. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We've got so many guys who just can't fucking wait to kill people that it's like, how do we not kill people? | ||
| Alex just had Stuart Rhodes on the show. | ||
| I mean, he's crazy. | ||
| You know, like, of course, of course. | ||
| So the Communists, yeah, they're all over the place false flagging. | ||
| They just can't stop false flagging. | ||
| They can't. | ||
| So that's their plan, it's been their plan. | ||
| And now they are really trying to take it into high gear. | ||
| And you're going to have also a lot of lone crazies inside the Democratic Party system that are going to go out and carry out events themselves. | ||
| You already saw in Pennsylvania a crazy leftist because the governor Shapiro wasn't communist enough for him going and fire bombing his house while he was in it and burning down a large portion of it. | ||
| But those stories hit the news and left. | ||
| So earlier this year, a guy named Cody Balmer threw a Molotov cocktail into Josh Shapiro's home and I guess Alex has decided that it's because he was a communist and Shapiro wasn't communist enough for him. | ||
| Sounds true. | ||
| That's fun and all, but I'll just read it to you from the Associated Press about this guy and his brother. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The brothers also disagreed on politics. | ||
| Cody Balmer, who is a registered as an unaffiliated voter had always been politically interested and considered himself more of an independent than anything else, but tried to convince the family to vote for Donald Trump in the twenty twenty four presidential election, said his brother. | ||
| I'm not even trying to say that he's a Trump guy or anything like that. | ||
| This was a man who was in the grips of some serious mental health problems. | ||
| If you read what his family has said in interviews, it's clear that he'd been in and out of hospitals and frequently resisted taking prescribed meds. | ||
| It's very sad, and he seemed to have also taken an interest in Gaza, but just like with him trying to get his family to vote for Trump, I don't think that's a coherent part of any political identity. | ||
| CBS News released the text of the nine hundred and eleven call that he made after setting Shapiro's house on fire, and he says, quote, I don't really have an emergency. | ||
| I would like to apologize. | ||
| Governor Josh Shapiro needs to know that Cody Balmer will not take part in his plans for what he wants to do to the Palestinian people. | ||
| He needs to leave my family alone. | ||
| He needs to get his eyes off my daughters, and he needs to stop having my friends killed like he killed. | ||
| He had Manny killed two weeks ago or last week on Saturday. | ||
| He was a guy who was struggling, but also a guy with a pretty clear history of domestic violence, so don't get me wrong, I don't want to make him out to be some kind of tragic figure. | ||
| He seems like a violent, abusive, mentally unwell guy. | ||
| But what he doesn't seem like is a communist who was just mad that Josh Shapiro wasn't communist enough. | ||
| But Alex is right about something, and that is that these stories just come and go in the media, which is ironically why Alex can get away with playing the game that he's playing here, calling this guy a communist who was just mad that Josh Shapiro wasn't communist enough. | ||
| So he's kind of complaining about the very thing that feeds him. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, like it's so hard with these political things because people talk about like an ideology motivating people in this regard, but that's that's really awfully vague. | ||
| Like, nobody's motivated on either side by, like, oh, we need a two percent progressive additional tax on, you know what I mean? | ||
| Like, it's when we're here, these guys are violent people, regardless of which political party they're in, it just so happens that one political party is willing to use them in the way that they want to be used. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the other political party is trying to keep them from being used that way, but, you know, maybe not keeping them healthy in order, you know, like there's a reason that they're vulnerable enough to be used in that kind of regard. | ||
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| So Alex gets back to talking about the shooting. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And the shooter. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Who is still alive. | ||
| Very responsibly, I assume. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he reflects on the fact that maybe it's a good thing that he's still alive so we can get the full story from him. | ||
| Yes, that's it. | ||
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| Can you imagine if a Trump MAGA person went to two state lawmakers, a senator and a house member. | ||
| Boy can. | ||
| Legislature. | ||
| And shot them and killed them. | ||
| Killed the senator and her husband. | ||
| Seriously wounded the state rep and their spouse. | ||
| and is on the run right now. | ||
| And the police just thought, hey, there's another lawmaker close to here. | ||
| Let's go check there. | ||
| And there he is in the parking lot coming out after he just killed these people. | ||
| They died by the police got to him right there. | ||
| And shoots at the police and then just runs off. | ||
| So too bad the police weren't able to get this guy, but maybe that's a... | ||
| We can find out who put him up to it. | ||
| We already know from interviews with the shooter's roommate and longtime best friend that he was a fan of Infowars. | ||
| He was an active viewer of the show, so it's a reasonable question to ask if he's listening to this episode. | ||
| He would have to know that Alex would cover this shooting, and if you're a real info warrior, you probably think Alex can come up with the best spin to make sure that Trump and the extreme right don't get any blame for the shootings. | ||
| It's hard for me to imagine that he wouldn't be listening and maybe taking cues from what Alex is saying. | ||
| Like here, Alex is saying maybe it's good that the guy's alive, so he could tell us who put him up to it. | ||
| Before the shooter was caught, they found a Buick that he was driving abandoned, and inside there was a letter to the FBI, where he claimed that he'd committed the assassinations on behalf of Tim Walls was pulling the strings, and he was supposed to also kill Amy Klobuchar so Walls could take her Senate seat. | ||
| All of the reporting that I can find around this letter refer to it as rambling and full of conspiracies, and while I haven't read the actual letter so I can't say for sure, it kind of makes sense to me. | ||
| These murders were carried out as an extension of the information war, and thus, how the media covers it and what stories can be told about the murders, they're just as important as the murders themselves. | ||
| More so than in almost any other case that we've come across before, at least in my memory, I get the feeling that this shooting has synergy with the right wing media space. | ||
| The timing and the impetus of the attack was pretty much scripted on Alex's show, and the broader social media world that he's a part of all were in the same kind of line, hyping up the fourteenth as the day that this shit kicks off and all that. | ||
| The social media world and Alex as a mouthpiece crafted an explanation for how this wasn't the right wing's fault by latching onto this tenuous connection with Tim Walls. | ||
| And it seems to me like this guy most likely wrote a letter to the FBI that was meant to piggyback on these conspiracies that were being pitched by folks like Alex and tons of other dipshits on social media. | ||
| I have to call out that I'm making some pretty big logic leaps there, and a fair amount of this could be off, but this is how it feels to listen to this episode. | ||
| Like Alex is coaching a murderer how to spin his crimes not to imply the larger information war. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that feels fucked up. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, that one's that one's funny. | ||
| It's funny that like, it wouldn't occur to anyone in the regular media, you know, they would write it down as, oh, this is rambling and filled with conspiracy theories, as opposed to looking at it and being like, oh, this is Alex's episode from yesterday. | ||
| Well, yeah, I think that Alex is pretty lucky that nobody's listening to him. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's fucking crazy. | ||
| It's crazy that they would just ignore that. | ||
| But it's not crazy. | ||
| Anything that matters they ignore. | ||
| Right, but even the, like, just to be totally clear, the Tim Wall's connection conspiracy stuff is not like unique to Alex. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I I I I I just am pretty sure based on the way his roommate described it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think he probably would be listening to InfoWars the day after he Absolutely. | ||
| kills two state law bosses. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So if Alex is getting it from Twitter and then this guy is getting it from that or he's getting it straight from Twitter, who cares? | ||
| People just swatch themselves on the systems. | ||
| Yeah., that is, that is absolutely what he was doing. | ||
| Absolutely, with a thousand percent. | ||
| People in the middle of car chases are sometimes watching to the coverage. | ||
| They're listening to the coverage of them being in the car chase with the P. Yeah, I mean, come on. | ||
| So that made listening to this episode feel particularly glow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And thankfully, Alex jumps to a different topic. | ||
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Fair. | |
| Because you know, Bilderberg is going on. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Bilderberg, you know, until about fifteen years ago didn't exist, the media said, big globalist consortium of the NATO US British Intel system. | ||
| About 15 years ago, they started putting out their agenda. | ||
| It was usually bull. | ||
| It wasn't what they're actually getting into in the Maine. | ||
| But this time, they said how to depopulate. | ||
| Depopulation and replacement migration. | ||
| He says it's on infours.com, the link to the Bilderberg website. | ||
| So think how far we've come where even 15 years ago they would say it didn't exist and we were crazy. | ||
| We were top artists. | ||
| I was literally in Virginia one time covering it. | ||
| What 2009? | ||
| And they set it up just Jones made it up. | ||
| No one was there. | ||
| He was in the woods by a hotel just imagining. | ||
| It didn't matter. | ||
| I had helicopters and secret service and they had the Marines out there guarding them. | ||
| Just no, it doesn't exist.. | ||
| Nobody said that Alex made up that Bilderberg was meeting in Virginia. | ||
| Someone pulled the fire alarm in the hotel he was staying in and Alex got all scared and freaked out about how they were trying to smoke him out of his room and people made fun of him for making that up. | ||
| I can understand how he'd want to reclaim that story because it's a bit embarrassing. | ||
| It was an embarrassing story, yeah. | ||
| It is true that the Bilderberg group has their agenda bullet points listed on their website and the 2025 meeting does include one that was quote depopulation and migration. | ||
| You'll notice that Alex has interpreted this as how to depopulate and then just added the word replacement in before migration. | ||
| Yeah, no, it's a good place to put it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The population might be on the agenda because it's something that you might be worried about. | ||
| Like how in 2022, disruption of the global financial system was on their agenda. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Not because they were doing it, but because COVID had done it. | ||
| I thought everything that they do there is a how to class. | ||
| Yeah, it must be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So no, I don't I'm not convinced by this spin that he has on this one bullet point. | ||
| But come on. | ||
| Alex shouldn't be worried about these guys. | ||
| His buddy Peter Thiel was there. | ||
| Joe Rogan's boss, the guy who owns Spotify, he was there too. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's a cool guy club now. | ||
| It is now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Alex shouldn't be worried about these Bilderberg things. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you know, what do you now that you're against the whole no kings, why not have a bunch of kings? | ||
| I think that's the way to go. | ||
| There's never been a situation in my understanding, like in my reading of history, where a large group of aristocrats holding all the power and wealth have done poorly for the major population. | ||
| Yeah, and don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say that the Bilderberg is super awesome or cool. | ||
| I just don't think that their depopulation and migration bullet point means what Alex was pretending that it does. | ||
| I think that his criticism is silly and doesn't get us anywhere towards solving the problems that the people of the city have. | ||
| that Builderberg type organizations make a cause. | ||
| Okay, so it's a let's call it a double bluff, okay? | ||
| They named it that just so people would never believe that they were doing a how to depopulate and replace migrate class. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Right, so then you do go, you show up, you're one of those rich people, and they're just like, here's what you do to depopulate and replace your population. | ||
| What do you do like, do you do a double take? | ||
| Like, are we just, are we just opening up? | ||
| Are we just saying it now? | ||
| There's a part of me that wants to just go to the next Builderberg. | ||
| Yeah, see if we can get an invitation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Who knows anyone who built a bridge? | ||
| Yeah, come on. | ||
| We're not rich, but fuck it. | ||
| We'll dress up nicely. | ||
| Yeah, because he knows how he won't dress up nicely. | ||
| If that class is about how to depopulate, Yeah. | ||
| I would like to have that experience. | ||
| I would like to know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It would fundamentally change my view on things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think it really would. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, um, Alex, you know, this is the day when the uprising is happening in a thousand places. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so he wants to watch a bunch of, you know, the protest or videos and stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think he quickly bores himself. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| So the uprising has definitely started. | ||
| Most of the events start at 3:00 Central around the country. | ||
| And then the main ones start in about three hours. | ||
| Five Central spaced out across the country, but on that time zone. | ||
| So the next few hours it really kicks off. | ||
| And this goes on for a while. | ||
| You seem bored. | ||
| I seem bored. | ||
| Seem real bored. | ||
| Eh, it's kind of boring. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think he played this game out in 2016 and it's kind of been diminishing returns ever since. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he has a little video of a protester who's talking. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I think that try and see if you can tell where Alex laughs in this clip. | ||
| But you know what I know? | ||
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Growing up in a white nationalist evangelical home, that it's hurting us. | |
| In the inside, it's a psychic wound. | ||
| White supremacy is not the issue for white people. | ||
| It hurts us. | ||
| We have to let go of... | ||
| Strange place to laugh. | ||
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I mean, it is kind of funny. | |
| It's a weird reaction. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, listen. | ||
| Listen, I mean, hey, to each their road. | ||
| I'm just saying that what that might be a little bit over top. | ||
| Just throwing that out there. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think that Alex is ready to engage with the subtler version of the argument that this protester is making. | ||
| But I think that he was laughing because he does think that white supremacy is the answer for white people. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So he ends up just making fun of this protester for a while and does some voices. | ||
| And he's having a good time. | ||
| The good news is this creature will not be breathing probably. | ||
| But yet, we'll survive her. | ||
| Is that the good news? | ||
| Indeed, put the creature in public school. | ||
| out power even the private ones are and this pops out. | ||
| My God. | ||
| What a creature. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| America's evil and white. | ||
| It's wild! | ||
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It's wild! | |
| The lawmakers of the John Kill Night voted to give the illegal aliens everything they had to the kill. | ||
| Oh, so he's a wide-up. | ||
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Sorry, channeling that. | |
| Bad acting. | ||
| It's like two parts mental illness, two parts acting. | ||
| But they become the theater. | ||
| What about demons? | ||
| Though there are demons. | ||
| There should be demons involved. | ||
| Yeah, it's just half bad acting and half mental illness. | ||
| Is mental illness demons? | ||
| I guess you have to go Yeah, she was more Yeah, it's got to be bad. | ||
| It's all about the it's all about the throat. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It's the epic. | ||
| It's a flan the thing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Yeah, that's how the demons are the phlegm. | ||
| Demons are the phlegm. | ||
| Demons are the phlegm. | ||
| It makes perfect sense. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I find it silly to constantly call them, this person a creature. | ||
| Seems a little bit dumb. | ||
| Also, they're young. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like, I think, I don't know if, like, the clip that I played fully encapsulates it, but I think this person had a little bit of a dramatic flair to themselves. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I also think they're young. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I think that it's kind of dumb to be an adult and... | ||
| It's you know what I mean? | ||
| It's dumb to be an adult and criticize young people, probably period. | ||
| Because frankly, we're going to die and they'll be the only ones left. | ||
| Or at least to criticize them without the awareness that, like, they're young. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what else you were dumb to? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Let's move on. | ||
| Super dumb. | ||
| Oh, surprise, the young person does a thing. | ||
| Yeah, we got it. | ||
| Young people are, I swear to you, next year, they're going to do more things. | ||
| They just don't stop. | ||
| And then eventually they'll be old people and they'll say that about young people and we'll just do this whole fucking thing all over again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, um, Alex referenced earlier that a senator got in trouble. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For coming into a press conference. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This was Alex Padilla. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What did he do? | ||
| He well, we'll talk about it after Alex talks about how cool it was. | ||
| Okay, cool. | ||
| Handcuffing an US senator is a warning. | ||
| The Atlantic, yes. | ||
| He just busts into a federal building, runs up. | ||
| Ah, I don't know who he is. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| I'm going to fight you. | ||
| I'm getting down. | ||
| He may have a gun or something. | ||
| Oh, your senator will just stop attacking. | ||
| No, how'd that come? | ||
| Help me. | ||
| I can't believe you did this to me. | ||
| The warning, not the million plus dead from fentanyl, not the World War Three, not the human trafficking, not the sex slavery. | ||
| So Alex is talking about Senator Alex Padilla who got handcuffed and manipulated at a press conference that Christy Noam was holding, and I don't really have much commentary about it. | ||
| Like the video is widely available online, so anybody can watch it for themselves. | ||
| I think that some person could have a complaint that Padilla was disrupting the press conference and that he wasn't being polite enough to know. | ||
| I think you could. | ||
| I might listen to that complaint from some person, but not from Alex Jones, who's famous for his bullhorn techniques. | ||
| He paid listeners thousands of dollars to yell Bill Clinton's a rapist at Hillary's speaking events. | ||
| True. | ||
| This isn't political or even about ICE, but Alex's take the agitation and disruption guy, and now I'm all of a sudden supposed to pretend that he thinks that Padilla should have been more polite and less disruptive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex should just come out and say what he believes, that his disruptions are a necessary heroic part of democracy, and that disruptions against his side are illegal. | ||
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Mmhmm. | |
| Just spit it out already. | ||
| Yeah, that makes everything a lot easier. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This game where I'm supposed to pretend that there's like, oh no, this is, this is bad disruption. | ||
| But I mean, it's the game that we play to live together, you know? | ||
| Because if you, if you, if everyone was just out and out honest about what Alex and his people believe, then we got it. | ||
| We gotta fight. | ||
| We gotta fight and somebody has to lose. | ||
| And whoever loses, you gotta suck it up because you lost. | ||
| Like, that's just how it's gotta go. | ||
| But if we if we convince ourselves of like, you know, hey, it could be meaning something else, then we can just move on and live our lives. | ||
| Maybe that's, you know, I do think that there are obviously lives we must tell ourselves to live in civilization. | ||
| Maybe that's one of them. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So Alex, I think probably should be more concerned about essentially speech getting. | ||
| Getting a senator handcuffed. | ||
| Yeah, that would be wise. | ||
| I think he should. | ||
| I think he I honestly, based on everything he's supposed to believe, that should be a big deal. | ||
| But this should be worse. | ||
| US Marines arrive in Los Angeles to temporarily detain Army veteran. | ||
| So yeah, oh my gosh, people get in their face. | ||
| They don't know what's going on. | ||
| They say, Okay, detain them, so we'll see what the cops do. | ||
| Oh my gosh, for the first time in US history, Marines attacked a deadly attack today. | ||
| It's shocking video. | ||
| Oh my, where they actually touched the man by the arm. | ||
| So they agitate, this goes on, and they're just waiting for a kid state. | ||
| This is literally what Alex has been yelling about for years. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is literally what he's called martial law, the carrying out of domestic police duties by military troops. | ||
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| A man was running to get to an appointment with the VA and he didn't realize that he'd entered a taped off area. | ||
| He didn't hear the Marines when they told him to stop because he had his headphones in, so when they got him to the ground, they put him into zip ties, he was held over two hours and then he was released without charges. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| This is so far past what Alex can accept that there's no real point in even maintaining the illusion that he cared about the stuff that he used to pretend he cared about. | ||
| He never gave a shit about posse comatus. | ||
| It was all about exerting power. | ||
| That was the way that he felt he was able to exert. | ||
| some kind of power. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And possibly violence. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, he can't he can't make this mocking kind of, they did a violent attack. | ||
| Like he should be doing that about himself, like, they're going to put me in a FEMA camp. | ||
| Like, great. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, you know, maybe we're thinking about it backwards. | ||
| Like the actions are dictating his bullshit, right? | ||
| So if what he believed before was actually true and what he actually believed, then you have to start a fight now. | ||
| Like you have to start a civil war. | ||
| They did it. | ||
| They did the thing. | ||
| The military arrested someone on US soil. | ||
| It has to be done. | ||
| We got it. | ||
| It's just that's what he said. | ||
| It's like an automatic kill switch, you know? | ||
| It's like you don't even get to think about it. | ||
| You just have to do it. | ||
| Not necessarily. | ||
| I think, I think even within Alex's old framework, there is a way to deal with this without a civil war. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But it must be taken very seriously. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It has to be like, this person must be court martial. | ||
| There has to be a giant investigation of how we got to this point to begin with. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're probably going to end up with, like, the Joint Chiefs of Staff getting fired. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Probably some turnover in cabinet positions. | ||
| A series of events. | ||
| So wildly impos improbable that civil war makes just far more sense on a logistic point. | ||
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Right. | |
| But I'm just saying that there are other options. | ||
| There are other options. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| It's not an option. | ||
| I accept that. | ||
| But yeah, this making fun of the idea that the military arrested a guy. | ||
| Certainly that one's not that one's not in there. | ||
| That one's not that one's just not in there. | ||
| No, what an asshole. | ||
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Yeah, that's boy. | |
| He must just not think that the past is real, right? | ||
| I mean, he must, he can't think that like, well, we don't have mallets with the past written on them. | ||
| Because if we had mallets with the past written on them. | ||
| And then whenever you do something and the past. | ||
| is like, nah, and you get hit with a mallet, then you remember the past. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| We have to have mallets. | ||
| I think that it's totally fine to forget about things and to make mistakes and grow over time. | ||
| Certainly. | ||
| I think all these things are ways that the present could not fully align with the past. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But being cool with marines arresting a guy. | ||
| There's stuff, you know what? | ||
| There's stuff I've gone past and I still get hit with a mallet that says past on it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, how come this guy, how come this doesn't get hit with a mallet? | ||
| He should get hit with a mallet. | ||
| He should get hit with a mallet. | ||
| So we get back to the Minnesota Shooter. | ||
| And they're really trying to figure out how to blame these lawmakers getting shot to Republicans, but it's a Tim Walsh staff or appointee. | ||
| The police saw him, identified him shooting at them. | ||
| I think it's the same to say he's the guy alleged. | ||
| And he's got all the No King stuff in the police car if he runs off, the fake police or the real police car he somehow got. | ||
| So we've got lots of Mexican flags all over the country. | ||
| We've got feeds here for you. | ||
| The Tim Wall, though, says it appears to be politically motivated, but wonder if he's going to put any news news statements out now about it being his staffer, his senior appointed on the labor board for the state? | ||
| Alex has a ton of information wrong there, but it doesn't matter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The audience is not coming to him for accuracy or else they would have left a long time ago. | ||
| No. | ||
| He doesn't have to be right, he just needs to feel right. | ||
| And it feels right to the audience that this shooter wasn't someone like them. | ||
| He's a different type of person, he's a communist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's it. | ||
| It is it is it is it is pacification. | ||
| It's almost confusing why he tries to adhere to any of the truth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like just free, just free yourself. | ||
| Well, I think that some things would not be in your best interest. | ||
| Like to say air isn't real or something like that. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| It's a pointless fight to pick to like subvert that kind of truth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, probably. | ||
| I mean, it would be it would be worse for him strategically if instead of inspiring people to murder their political opponents, he inspired them to jump, thinking they can fly. | ||
| Well, we know that there's a line because he does not put up with like flat earth stuff. | ||
| True. | ||
| So like there is a line that he thinks is like beyond obviously this is stupid. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| So truth matters somewhere. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just finding out exactly what that line is is almost impossible. | ||
| People are weird, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| People are weird. | ||
| So Alex is talking a little bit about ICE and their detentions and arrests and stuff. | ||
| I think he accidentally reads a statistic that he didn't mean to read. | ||
| Yeah, you didn't want that one out there. | ||
| The arrest of non criminal eagles up 800 percent. | ||
| Well, they're all criminals, but yeah, they've been focusing mainly on the gangbangers and drug dealers, and that was who they focused on. | ||
| Now they're moving in to people that are here illegally, period. | ||
| And that didn't go to their hearings. | ||
| Oh, the hearings. | ||
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So 800 percent is a lot. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I think even he was a little bit surprised. | ||
| There's no situation where 800 percent should be used, probably. | ||
| Unless it's like, oh, no, actually I can't think of one that is like, oh, we're over year over year, we're up 800 percent is not a warning sign. | ||
| Even if your business is doing well, we're up 800 percent, then what happened? | ||
| What is going on? | ||
| We're out of control. | ||
| We're going to lose everything. | ||
| Like, it's nuts. | ||
| 800 percent. | ||
| I hit 800 percent of one pin when I bowled. | ||
| I got an eight. | ||
| out of eight, eight hundred percent of one pin. | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, it's it's tough to pick up a spare. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'd have to get two hundred percent. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So yeah, dumb. | ||
| Anyway, Alex, I think he has gotten some messages that he needs to be a little harder on Israel. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think that he's maybe seeing that the trend in the right wing world, there's a growing popularity of folks who are more like Nick Fuentes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And are more openly critical of Israel and the way that Alex is. | ||
| Alex has tried to play this game where he's like, look, I don't like Netanyahu, but I don't want Muslims coming here. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like that game is not enough and it opens him up to way too much attack from these anti Semitic critics that he has. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That, oh, you work for Israel kind of stuff. | ||
| Yeah, I imagine as Christianity, the actual, the religion, religion becomes less important to that subset of people who want to destroy the world. | ||
| Then, yeah, it would be harder to make that same leap that so many Republicans do, which is just like, we support Israel because that's where the end of the world is going to start. | ||
| You know? | ||
| So it makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There is a shift that is starting. | ||
| It's not meaningful because he still really doesn't have a position. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But he, now that Iran and Israel are fighting, I think that he's like, well, it's going to come to a head. | ||
| I have to do something. | ||
| Sooner or later you're going to have to choose something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he has now kind of shifted his position to, look, Iran's bad. | ||
| I don't like the Mullahs. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I don't like Israel. | ||
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| The Nanyahu's bad. | ||
| What about him? | ||
| But let's be honest, we overthrew the Shah. | ||
| You know, we put in the Shah. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
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That's a like, this is kind of like, it's all our fault, you know? | |
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| All this is our fault. | ||
| I agree with you wholeheartedly. | ||
| I'm being more generous to his position than maybe I should be, but probably it is like, you know, we've meddled in the region and, you know, we destabilized Iran in order to put in like a friendlier I broke all my best friend's toys and now I should just leave his house. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he has this take that is like, I don't like either. | ||
| I really hate Muslims. | ||
| But it's kind of our fault in the past. | ||
| It's a toss up, guys. | ||
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Yeah? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So you play us a clip of some people talking about positive stuff about Iran. | ||
| Where? | ||
| What world are we in in 2025? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think he found it on TikTok. | ||
| Do you know why Iran took our hostages back in the fucking seventies? | ||
| Because fucking Jimmy Carter. | ||
| Jimmy Carter started that shit. | ||
| Iran just didn't out of nowhere be like, What the fuck, USA? | ||
| and start calling us the devil. | ||
| No, it's because our CIA is constantly over there fucking in their shit with Mossad and the fucking goddamn Jews. | ||
| Confusing? | ||
| Instigating bullshit. | ||
| We are all fucked. | ||
| Usually it's optimistic. | ||
| I want to be, but I can't. | ||
| Not on this. | ||
| I have to be realistic. | ||
| We're all fucked. | ||
| We're all fucked. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| Long live the Republic. | ||
| I like that guy. | ||
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He's an elegant person. | |
| He swears too much. | ||
| The timing on that was pretty good. | ||
| I like this guy. | ||
| I like that guy. | ||
| Yeah, it's like he's got a good head on his shoulder. | ||
| Fucking around with Mossad and the Jews. | ||
| He's got to be realistic. | ||
| We're fucked. | ||
| We're all fucked. | ||
| I also think I also think that someone with like I don't think that you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would say I don't think you would frame it that way if you weren't antisemitic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think you're saying the Jews in there. | ||
| There's that kind of I think you're kind of tipping your hand a little bit to choosing the seventies arbitrarily for, yeah, oh yeah, just the seventies. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| No, that's fine. | ||
| I don't believe that this is I don't know who this person is, so I don't want to judge too harshly because I don't know the larger body of their work. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I get a bad vibe. | ||
| Yeah, agreed. | ||
| But second, I just think that you don't have a good position that includes that rant. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I would have liked growing up., you know, now that I've lived a lot and I've read a lot more about how things actually functioned, I would have liked a lot more nuance and understanding of multiple points of view from my history classes growing up. | ||
| I would have liked it if they didn't just go like, ah, the gas crisis happened in the 70s and then Jimmy Carter and yada yada yada. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| You know, it would have been nice if they gave you some context for all the things that were going on so you don't believe in bullshit when you grow up. | ||
| But I don't know if someone being like, you know what else? | ||
| It's Carter's fault in the 70s! | ||
| Where fuck? | ||
| would have helped my education, you know? | ||
| Well, I look, I went to Missouri. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Public schools. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know what they were like in Illinois. | ||
| They weren't they weren't that. | ||
| But is it worse? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
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Wait, yes, yes, no, no, school's better, school's better, school's better. | |
| I take it back. | ||
| I got it backwards. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So Alex goes on to just make up some fun stuff about this shooting. | ||
| Yeah, great. | ||
| We've got a major update in the Governor Tim tampon dispenser walls situation and the man they caught dressed up like a police officer with a stolen police car. | ||
| They said it's with one of their police cars that just killed a state senator and her husband and shot and almost killed a state rep and other spouse. | ||
| We actually have a clip I forgot to play of the senator where she talks about, no, we're not going to vote for illegal aliens to get health care. | ||
| And she was leading the Democrat group that was against that. | ||
| And so was the other state rep that was shot. | ||
| So very, very interesting now. | ||
| we'll go to that video in a moment, but first Minnesota shooting suspect Carr had no King Flyers and Police warned the suspect of Minnesota shooting had a list of targets that included representative Melissa Hortman and Senator John Hoffman, who both got shot. | ||
| Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband were killed. | ||
| So you can see how Alex has crafted this narrative into being primarily about Tim Walls, not about the shooter or even the victims. | ||
| This is how he jumped back into the story by saying that they have an update on the Tim Walls situation. | ||
| The messaging is very clear here. | ||
| The goal is to pin this on Walls, which is exactly what the shooter ended up trying to do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Beyond that, Alex is just making shit up and reaching bad conclusions here. | ||
| For one thing, the car that the shooter used wasn't a stolen police car. | ||
| Alex has just assumed that because the police said that the car looked a lot like a police car. | ||
| Second, Melissa Hortman was a member of the Minnesota State House, and the other target, John Hoffman, was in the state senate, but Alex has them mixed up. | ||
| Hortman wasn't leading the Democratic group that was opposed to extending Minnesota care to undocumented immigrants. | ||
| She was the only member of her party who voted that way. | ||
| Alex is making up a story about them because it adds to the intrigue of the whole thing and because he's a monstrous liar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, I think that long pause at the end of the clip was because Alex didn't know if he should read the part. | ||
| about the shooter's target list being a bunch of Democratic politicians and abortion rights advocates. | ||
| I suspect he got to that line in the story and he couldn't tell in the moment if that helped or hurt the narrative, so his brain just paused. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| Like, would it make more sense for this guy to go and shoot people who support abortion? | ||
| False flagging, that's what they would, that's what they would want to do, right? | ||
| But if my angle is that I'm trying to pin this on Tim Walls, then Tim Walls wouldn't want to false flag that. | ||
| Maybe he would. | ||
| Maybe he would. | ||
| This is why you pause. | ||
| But would he? | ||
| This is why your brain just says, don't say anything. | ||
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work. | |
| It doesn't work. | ||
| It's, you know what it is? | ||
| It's too complicated. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're just complicating things too much. | ||
| It's one ingredient in the soup too many. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So Alex gossips a little bit about how this, this lady who got murdered, she was totally about to leave the Democratic Party. | ||
| Sounds true. | ||
| And here she is literally just last week, and the word was she was about to leave the Democratic Party. | ||
| Well, now her spirit has left this plank. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| I know that people will be hurt by that vote. | ||
| And I'm. | ||
| We worked very hard to try to get a budget deal that wouldn't include that provision. | ||
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DFL Speaker, emerita Melissa Hortman, emotional following the House's adjournment from a special session Monday. | |
| Hortman was the only DFL legislator to cast a vote to cut Minnesota care access for undocumented immigrants. | ||
| It's a move she made with a heavy heart. | ||
| I did what leaders do. | ||
| I stepped up and I got the job done for the people of Minnesota. | ||
| The rest of this news report goes on to talk about how the GOP wouldn't budge on this provision. | ||
| So nothing was going to happen unless someone, one of the Democrats voted for it or didn't. | ||
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vote. | |
| This provision was necessary for them. | ||
| And so when she's talking about that, she's very emotional about the fact that she made this vote that was against what she believed in. | ||
| She is not somebody who's like, oh, I think I'm going to leave the Democratic Party. | ||
| I'm leading this resistance to fuck over immigrants or whatever. | ||
| And this is ghoul shit. | ||
| This to me is disgusting. | ||
| When Alex says the word is she was going to leave the Democratic Party, now her spirit has left the earth or whatever. | ||
| should apologize immediately after that clip ends. | ||
| That is so inappropriate. | ||
| No. | ||
| She died that morning. | ||
| Fucked up. | ||
| Fucked up. | ||
| Anyway, yeah. | ||
| Alex is going to talk about Iran and Israel. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Two things that he knows everything about. | ||
| Well, but he's not actually. | ||
| He gets sidetracked. | ||
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Wise. | |
| I want to get into the big developments in the Iran-Israel escalation, where I see that going, what the different angles are of that in just a moment. | ||
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Probably well. | |
| And then I'm going to get into one of their favorite hoaxes they're pushing again that you see everywhere. | ||
| And that deals with claiming that polar bears can't swim. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| What? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What? | ||
| Can polar bears swim? | ||
| No, you can't do that. | ||
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Meh. | |
| I mean, I don't I don't It's jarring, isn't it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I If You forgot that feeling, didn't you? | ||
| If the FCC exists for any reason, I like show tits, have fun, but full bush, I don't give a shit. | ||
| Get it out of there, but stop that from happening. | ||
| The whiplash was fucking horrifying. | ||
| It's dangerous at any speed. | ||
| It is, that hurts. | ||
| This is where we need Ralph Nader to wow. | ||
| Come in and get seatbelts. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| For the content. | ||
| If we're going to do I know it when I see it bullshit Supreme Court, fuck it, I know it when I see it, and that needs to be stopped. | ||
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So we're going to talk about Iran, Israel, but hey, what about these polar bears? | |
| No. | ||
| Can they swim? | ||
| I'm going to recycle it. | ||
| I'm old. | ||
| All climate change. | ||
| All my political beliefs are now mallet based. | ||
| I'm just going to write time periods., 1950s, Mallet, that's when you made the mistake. | ||
| GB Carter, we're fucked. | ||
| Boom, Mallet, boom, there it is. | ||
| So Alex rants a little bit about the various thoughts he has that shoot off the polar bear swim in the pool. | ||
| Yeah, great. | ||
| Overall aggregate sea level has stayed the same for five hundred years, the watermark. | ||
| So, yeah, let's show you a few of these, okay? | ||
| We've got two hundred year old photos. | ||
| And what does it show? | ||
| 1878 to 2018. | ||
| Unprecedented sea level rise in Sydney Harbor over the last 440 years due to massiveive climate change. | ||
| It is exactly the same. | ||
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Interesting. | |
| And we can show you hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of other things. | ||
| By 2017, the ice caps will be gone. | ||
| This feels so stupid. | ||
| America's supposed to be in a civil war that kicked off all these No Kings protests that are happening while Alex is on air that he's supposed to be monitoring. | ||
| Multiple lawmakers in Minnesota were the targets of assassination the night before. | ||
| Israel and Iran are bombing each other, and Alex is arguing with no one about climate change memes. | ||
| Who's he trying to convince? | ||
| Does anyone in his audience care about sea levels at this point? | ||
| Is there possibly a single Infowars listener who might be swayed by Al Gore? | ||
| This game is dead because there is no battle that Alex needs to be fighting here. | ||
| Trump is all about the big corporations and he doesn't give a shit about environmentalism. | ||
| So Alex doesn't need to be out here trying to run propaganda against regulation and climate considerations. | ||
| It's all done, buddy. | ||
| After the Supreme Court overturned Chevron, The EPA doesn't really have any authority. | ||
| It's all gone. | ||
| He's wasting his time. | ||
| This feels so dumb. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was thinking about throwing a water filled or a water balloon filled with pee at him. | ||
| And then I thought, I've never done that before. | ||
| And then I thought about it another step further. | ||
| Have you ever done that? | ||
| No comment. | ||
| That's a yes. | ||
| See, here's the thing. | ||
| I suddenly realized that I don't want to get involved in the logistics of moving urine into the actual water balloon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I'm assuming, so my first thought was like, well, without tools, this is clearly just going to be a avenue for me to pee on myself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| So then you get a funnel, right? | ||
| You think funnels are the way to go, but you don't know if that's going to have enough water pressure to expand the balloon. | ||
| What if it just pops right out at you? | ||
| Yeah, it doesn't. | ||
| Look, these are all these are all questions that you come to ask yourself very quickly when you decide to When you decide your first piss filled balloon is a lot of trial and error. | ||
| I do think that I can say that no one has ever got it right the first time. | ||
| That's definitely. | ||
| You look, it's What about a piss filled m malice. | ||
| It's just it was just a lot of fun because while that clip was going on, the tail end of it had me with a bunch of different images of me in a cartoon scenario where I'm pissing all of myself. | ||
| So that was nice. | ||
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That was a nice little You'll get back on Alex by pissing on your penis. | |
| Yeah, by I'll just have piss covered hands as I have a little balloon wrapped around my penis. | ||
| Yeah, that works. | ||
| So I think I feel like there's some real, real, real, real, real serious stuff going on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The military has arrested someone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Senators are getting handcuffed for asking questions. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Political as nations. | |
| And I felt so weird with Alex just going into polar bears. | ||
| Like, it felt like denial. | ||
| It felt more like denial than anything else. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, this, everything's too much. | ||
| I'm going to retreat to back when I could yell about Al Gore and climate credits and Absolutely. | ||
| It really felt pathetic. | ||
| I felt like it was, it is the Infowars version of an Adam's family values whenever they have when they're at summer camp and they send him to the small house where all the Disney. | ||
| films are. | ||
| Like, it was very much like, you know what? | ||
| I'm going to return to a safer, more idyllic place and I'm just going to watch Disney films. | ||
| Oh, polar bears can't swim. | ||
| I bet they can. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I just, I don't know. | ||
| It put a bad taste in my mouth. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| So we'll see what happens over the intervening days. | ||
| Probably not much. | ||
| Probably not much. | ||
| Eventually, it is obviously going to come out that this guy was an InfoWars listener. | ||
| Are we in the future? | ||
| What? | ||
| We are in the future, right? | ||
| Do you mean right now? | ||
| We have not been civil warred as of yet. | ||
| I mean, are there branching paths? | ||
| Ooh man, you just got multiverse. | ||
| Did our vacation cause a split path? | ||
| Are we the reason that we either are in a civil war or are not in a civil war, depending on which pathway we are in? | ||
| I think on a pretty official sense, we're not in a civil war right now. | ||
| But yes, we are in Alex's show. | ||
| Okay, then let me ask you. | ||
| Because he has not end, he has not declared a end of hostilities. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| So we are in a civil war until he officially is. | ||
| Until we go to Appomattox. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's still going on. | ||
| Someone has to sign something. | ||
| Someone has to sign something. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that makes sense. | ||
| It's going to be a long civil war. | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, we have websites. | ||
| DVD, it's knowledgefight dot com dot Yeah, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo, Neo, DZX Clark, I'm the serious professor. | ||
| Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo. | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| Well, Alex, I'm a first name caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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