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June 27, 2025 - Knowledge Fight
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#1051: June 10, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan find Alex creating strong Russian propaganda, getting super into the police state and accindentally warming up to a black supremacist.

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alex jones
19:24
d
dan friesen
34:27
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dr delbert blair
05:13
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jordan holmes
15:53
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audie cornish
00:27
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brad todd
00:32
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unidentified
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Andy and Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy and Kansas.
alex jones
Andy.
unidentified
Andy.
It's time to pray.
alex jones
Andy and Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for all of us.
unidentified
Hello Alex.
I'm a Christian Collider.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your word.
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
Not knowledgefight dot com dot I love you.
dan friesen
Hey everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple of dudes.
I like to sit around, worship with the Aldrus Lean and talk a little bit about Alex Jordan.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
unidentified
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
So, what's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is I did something.
Granted, this episode will be coming out later.
So you can't find me.
Don't look for me.
jordan holmes
Can't be found.
dan friesen
But I did something that I haven't done in a long time.
And that is I bought a ticket to a movie this evening.
jordan holmes
Holy shit.
dan friesen
I'm going to a theater.
jordan holmes
You're going to a movie theater?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Outside of the doors?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Whoa.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm going to see a movie.
jordan holmes
Oh, what movie?
dan friesen
Twenty eight years later.
jordan holmes
Oh, that'll be great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I really enjoyed that rewatching the first one.
Second one, heh?
Yeah.
But I'm interested to see what they do.
The first one is so good that I'll watch every sequel they make probably in perpetuity just in case.
jordan holmes
Well, the good news for you is that the first one Danny Boyle Alex Garland.
The second one not those guys.
This one those guys again.
dan friesen
Is it Danny Boyle too or is it just Alex Garland?
jordan holmes
No, it's Danny Boyle too.
dan friesen
The whole crew.
jordan holmes
The whole crew's back in action.
dan friesen
Julian Murphy's probably somewhere there.
jordan holmes
Not yet.
He's in the next movie.
It's supposed to be a trilogy now.
dan friesen
Which I think sucks, but I'm so okay with.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't care.
It's kind of the inverse of I think I probably will go to the theater to see the new Jurassic Park.
Yeah.
But that's out of anger.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
This I have hope that it will be good.
jordan holmes
You'll go to the cinema to shake your fist at the movie, because otherwise you'll never know for sure that the movie doesn't, you know.
dan friesen
Right.
With Jurassic Park, the new one, I have no hope.
I don't expect it to be good.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But I want to be able to say, I saw it in the theater, in case someone's like, you need to see those dinosaurs on the big screen.
I want to take away that possible rebuttal to me being like, this movie sucks.
jordan holmes
I like a good preemptive argument winner.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I've intentionally not learned almost anything about this 28 years later.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
I don't know what I mean, I know, I guess it's 28 years.
jordan holmes
It's 28 years less, I guess.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know anything about the premise.
I don't know anything going in clean.
I'm excited.
I hope it's going to be good.
jordan holmes
I'm excited too.
I think it's going to be good.
dan friesen
I'm already sitting here thinking what snacks I'm going to get.
jordan holmes
What snacks are you going to get?
dan friesen
Definitely not popcorn.
I'm not a popcorn guy.
jordan holmes
You're not a popcorn guy.
No.
dan friesen
Maybe nachos?
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
Nachos in a movie theater?
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's a little loud.
jordan holmes
It's loud.
dan friesen
Man, maybe I'll just get candy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the way to go.
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is also my dark spot.
Simultaneous bright and dark spot dropped the puppers off the shore.
Sure, sure.
And sad, you know, already missing them, but also, man, not having to take care of them for like a while.
dan friesen
It's a little relief.
jordan holmes
It's crazy.
dan friesen
It's a little load off.
jordan holmes
It's crazy how little anxieties are just gone and you don't even notice that they're there all the time.
Like right now, I'm not worried that Sonny is pooping on our floor.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm just not.
dan friesen
It's nice to have that little bit removed from your brain.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And if you think about it, it's obviously sad to have drop them off and what have you.
But you're also Starting the clock on when that exciting reunion.
jordan holmes
The anticipation.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, she's going to jump into my arms like a Disney princess.
It's going to be amazing.
dan friesen
And that's, so that's building.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's very exciting.
unidentified
Cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, Jordan, today we have something to not be excited about and that's another episode of this show.
Yeah.
We're going to be talking about june 10, 2025.
Okay.
Alex, the Civil War is raging on.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He has announced it.
The Civil War is already, it's started.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we'll see what he decides to spend his time on.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
But before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new Wong.
That's a great idea.
So first, congratulations on completing your psychiatry residencycy, doctor Hurst.
Thank you so much, you're an owl, Polly Wonk.
unidentified
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you.
jordan holmes
Oh, thank you so much.
I thought this was lost.
I was thinking.
dan friesen
Sorry.
Freedom from the dogs has freed you from everything.
jordan holmes
No, that was okay.
Sorry.
dan friesen
Next, a bisexual socialist bigender.
Alex would hate me.
Thank you so much, you're an owl, Polly Wonk.
unidentified
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you so much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And my friend Tionne, who has become Dr Tionne Paris with her PhD in Black Women Radicals at Networks of Transnational Resistance in the 20th century.
Thank you so much, you're an owl, Polly Wonk.
unidentified
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you so much.
dan friesen
Everybody getting their doctorates in this.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
So we got a technocrat in the mixture.
So thank you so much, dude.
Dan should check out AEW and I hope Jordan does a very enthusiastic thank you so much, since that always makes me smile.
Thank you so much, you're now a technocrat.
unidentified
I'm a policy wonk.
alex jones
Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Sharp, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little, little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Ironic.
unidentified
Shh.
jordan holmes
No, that's what, but that's what I was thinking about.
Ironically.
dan friesen
You're self conscious about knowing that they have to.
jordan holmes
I was like, isn't this the one where and that was the exact moment where I was supposed to have done it.
dan friesen
I blew it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it was stupid.
Yeah, but also just a reminder to everyone, if you want your shout out, send an email to knowledgefight at gmail dot com dot Yeah, you got it.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I have checked out AEW, I've watched some of it.
Some of it's great, some of it I don't I'm not interested in.
jordan holmes
That's life.
dan friesen
But it's, you know, there's a lot of fun stuff.
I think, for some reason, I think I am more of a WWE fan.
jordan holmes
You're a traditionalist.
dan friesen
I think so.
jordan holmes
It's the, it's the history of it.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think it's the same way that I like McDonald's over like maybe a better burger.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
You know, like maybe a familiarity.
Well, technically higher quality burger, maybe.
jordan holmes
Maybe, maybe not.
Not important.
dan friesen
No, I want the shit.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So anyway, we have this episode here.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
Newton Tap.
jordan holmes
I want the shit.
dan friesen
You're going to get it.
So Alex starts the show off by graphically describing how the streets are on fire in Los Angeles.
alex jones
They're already intensifying riots and violence, and the police being attacked by bricks and mawab cocktails and fireworks in Dallas and Austin, I mean, just where I'm at.
You know, as I predicted in the last week, I said I expect Texas to be hotspots.
The NGOs are heavily funded here.
Houston, San Antonio.
They've got the Soros DAs that will just let these people out of jail, even if they kill somebody.
Meanwhile, they're looting stores of mainly brown people, Indians and others, South Koreans.
Women are being drugged out of their cars and beaten up in front of their children.
People are being found dead, beaten to death.
If anyone begs them while they rob and loot their shops, please don't.
They're beaten bloody.
We have hours of footage.
jordan holmes
On June 5th, they're starring Charles Bronson.
alex jones
Rise up.
They put these messages up a month ago.
A month ago.
With hundreds of millions of dollars of USAID, Department of Energy, and EPA money flooding directly into it.
And there's flyers being handed out all over the country., no kings, huge advertisements in newspapers, june 14, mobilize.
And then, whether it's Saturday or Sunday or sometime next week or two weeks from now, in Chicago, in Austin, Texas, in LA, we don't know, in Denver, someone from a parking garage that's got good concealment that can put the Patsy's dead body there,
a one-man team, three-man team, sprays the crowd of illegal alien rioters, communist rioters.
And if you think they burned down the country over George Floyd, that will look like a minor inconvenience compared to what happens.
And then the globalist state hits the power grid.
An entire region or perhaps nationwide drops the power grid.
The US stock market drops ninety percent.
jordan holmes
Okay, ninety percent.
alex jones
So fear grips.
Internet outages happen.
Only corporate media is available.
Suddenly.
No, it's not plane is hit by service to air missiles.
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, wait.
alex jones
Rolls into the White House.
jordan holmes
Are we pitching now?
alex jones
These are the scenarios.
And then, well, Trump deserved it.
Or enough blue states secede, the economy collapses, they've been organizing coups in the military, and they go with the Civil War scenario.
And Trump is finally killed by the new military coalition in the White House.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
This is the plan.
dan friesen
This is the plan.
jordan holmes
Are we done then?
dan friesen
Yeah, well, these are a number of plans.
This is pretty bad stuff, I guess.
But you notice, this is all starting on june 14.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The new No Kings protests.
Alex is saying whatever these nightmare scenarios are, maybe it's a Civil War option, right?
Maybe it's the electricity goes out, stock market crashes and shoot down Trump's plane option.
Sure.
But it all is starting then.
That's the chance or whatever.
That's the cutoff date.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which ironically is when that dude shot those lawmakers in Minnesota.
jordan holmes
I'm trying to think of scale here right now from from what the amount of coverage and hyperbole around many of the protests recently.
You would think, whoa, huge numbers.
Not so very small, relatively speaking.
Relatively speaking, compared to the damage that they're purported to be doing.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
If you were to apply that same ratio to the women's march, those two million women would have laid waste to this entire country.
Like there would be nothing but flat land.
Yeah.
That's how crazy it is to think that this, this much damage is being done.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or like the, if you turn it over the other direction, it would mean that like the Bundy Ranch.
overthrew the country.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Like that level of wow, they did it all in one night, huh?
jordan holmes
How about that?
The whole place?
dan friesen
So Alex talks a little bit about LA Mayor Karen Bass.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
She's a communist.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
I have said in the last few months that the enemy is so badly coordinated and exposed.
Everything they're doing is falling apart that there was a good chance they'd back off this.
But a couple of weeks ago, a month ago with the No King movement and all the big funding I saw, I said they've already preloaded so much.
They've already preprogrammed the communists and anti-fund, the Mexican supremacists and all of it that this is going to roll out.
And you've got the mayor of LA, the communist, literal agent of Cuba on record, actual intelligence agents, she admits it.
They run rapid reaction forces to target ICE and that they will not come in the city.
You've got the congresswoman there in LA saying, get the F out.
We're going to crush you.
You've got Newsom saying, leave these poor innocent people alone.
Do they have anything wrong when all homes have been targetgeting as hardened criminals with rape, kidnapping, murder, arson, robbery, armed robbery, convictions out the ash.
They wisely went after the hardened criminals first.
dan friesen
So we talked about it in the last episode, but LA mayor Karen Bass said in a press conference that citizens have created rapid response networks, not that the city runs one.
Alex intentionally misrepresents this because the community looking out for each other and performing solidarity is probably one of the most effective things that can be done to counter the authoritarian power grab that Alex supports.
So it's in his interest to brand those things as inauthentic and secretly run by the communists in the government.
Bass also isn't a Cuban intelligence agent and she didn't admit that she was.
In nineteen seventy three, when she was nineteen years old, she went to Cuba with a group called the Venseramos Brigade.
This was a group started by the Fidel Castro government and the US anti war group Students for a Democratic Society.
The SDS was a larger, mostly student activism group that pretty much fell apart over their different perspectives on revolution during the nineteen sixty nine Convention.
Sure.
That was the point when the Weatherman grew out of the initial organization and the SDS began to have much less relevance as its own thing.
During 1969 convention, another group that splintered off from the main SDS was the Vinceramos Brigade, which was made up mostly of people who felt solidarity with Cuba, and they wanted to help the people living there mostly by going to Cuba and offering to provide labor where it was needed.
This took the form of helping with sugarcane harvests or in Bass's case, working on building housing.
I can fully understand why Alex would want to smear her for this, but if that's the standard that it takes to be considered an admitted agent of another country's intelligence, then that would need to apply to every missionary.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
As for the thing that's going on with the hardened criminals first, that Homan is doing?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not how it worksks.
dan friesen
No, and that's totally a lie.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that's how they wish No, here's the thing.
That's how they wanted it to work.
Because if it did that way, then they would feel justified in what they're doing.
But it turns out that nothing of what they believe is true.
dan friesen
No, but that's why you lie.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
So now they're just lying about it.
And so, well, I guess we're wrong, it's just not possible.
dan friesen
The Cato Institute just released an analysis of ICE data showing that of the 204,297 people that they've detained since October 2024, 65% of them had no criminal convictions on their record.
jordan holmes
The Cato Institute said that.
The Cato Institute.
dan friesen
That's not great.
No.
93% of them had no violent offenses, which means that of the whole mass of people, only 7% of them had previously been convicted of anything more than, quote, immigration traffic or nonviolent vice crimes.
alex jones
Great.
dan friesen
The author of that piece calculated that, quote, in early January, ICE was arresting about 32 immigrants per day in the interior who had no criminal conviction or pending charge.
By early June, these arrests were approximately 453 per day, a 14-fold increase.
Alex can pretend that Homan and the Trump administration are just going after criminals, but he's lying to cover up for a systematic campaign meant to terrorize immigrant communities.
Yeah.
And that's just what this is.
jordan holmes
I mean, there's no other comp, there's no parallel other than the Trail of Tears.
Like, that's where we're at.
dan friesen
And Alex Alex is like knowingly lying.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, I for the sake of apologizing for Andrew Jackson.
jordan holmes
It is wild to read about that and be like, wow, how could people be so fucking insane?
And then to like wake up and go outside and be like, holy shit, people are this fucking insane.
It's crazy.
dan friesen
And, um, I think on our last episode or one of our recent episodes, we talked about Alex being okay with sending in the National Guard.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the governor not approving it, and that's still being totally fine.
We've now reached the point where marines are going in.
And Alex is totally cool.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
Seven hundred marines are being deployed.
They're still at Camp Pendleton, getting some riot training to help law enforcement at LA riots until more National Guard troops arrive.
Two thousand more have been ordered.
Look at the headlines.
Newsom takes on the king.
Gavin Newsom, Trump is unhinged, speaking like an authoritarian.
You're the one that burned down your own city and then seized it under you in 50 minutes city.
dan friesen
So I think that this is just disgraceful.
Alex should not be able to report President sends Marines into American City to assist with quelling protests.
And not be like, Okay, we're spending the rest of the show on talking about why this is not okay and why this is a red alarm, red alert.
jordan holmes
This is one of the biggest, that famously, but maybe the most famous example of when a democracy becomes a dictatorship is the moment that a military force is used on its own people.
dan friesen
I definitely know that I've never said that in the past.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's like it is it's like it's obviously oversimplifying things, but also is it?
It's very obvious.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And, you know, I think that over the course of the last little bit, we've spent a fair amount of time pointing out, like, new lows and things where it's like, well, there's literally no way someone in Alex's position could be Yeah.
giving this position.
So copy and paste that here.
Because it's just doing that again.
jordan holmes
The man's got a submarine and he's only diving.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So the question of state's rights obviously is an important one.
jordan holmes
Do they have any?
dan friesen
Who knows?
jordan holmes
Not anymore.
dan friesen
So Alex plays a clip of a guy on CNN discussing this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And then, oh, a CNN panelist actually said the truth out loud, so they cut them off when they pointed out, no, this is a response to violence.
What do you think happens to you if you go over to your neighbor's car and pour gasoline on it?
Well, if they don't shoot you, the cops are going to be coming up about five minutes and slamming your ass on the concrete.
Well, what do you do when five hundred cars get burned down in hundreds of stores, people getting killed?
And I got all these videos of brown women, Hispanic women being jerked out of cars with their kids and people getting beaten up.
jordan holmes
What are we doing here?
alex jones
Big raging mobs beating each other.
jordan holmes
What do you think you're doing here?
alex jones
And then Hillary Clinton and BET and CNN and all this CIA funding, no king, no king, no king, no king, no king.
And all Trump does is send help to these cities.
jordan holmes
Huh.
Huh.
alex jones
Believable.
Here is CNN cutting off the panelist.
Brad, what are you thinking?
brad todd
Well, we got to this moment because California has a sanctuary policy.
The state law forbids local law enforcement to cooperate with or local government to cooperate with immigration enforcement.
We have immigration laws that govern the entire land and California is willfully ignoring them.
California's left-wing politicians set this up.
If California had long been cooperating and helping enforce immigration laws all along the way, this would not be.
audie cornish
It's not the whole state.
You do know that some of this is jurisdictions.
There are certain towns that do.
But there are certain towns that absolutely have cooperated with federal authorities.
brad todd
Shouldn't they all?
audie cornish
You know, this is part of the issue that's always interesting here is when Republicans want to talk about states' rights, it's about states' rights when it's something that they're interested in, and not when it's something that perhaps Democrats and their states are interested in.
brad todd
And so I think we've all agreed on what immigration laws are.
There's no state there's no state.
jordan holmes
We're going to talk about this more in the hour.
I want to bring in Stephen.
Are they all new to this?
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
They're calling it states' rights.
The president, even a governor doesn't call out the National Guard.
can call out the guard.
That's all constitutional.
And I guarantee you, well, I polled people in California for real, and eighty percent of them want what's happening.
jordan holmes
That's not in the constitution.
alex jones
So here's 1992 when this act was invoked, which Trump hasn't even fully done yet, and put army and marines on the streets of LA.
Here it is.
dan friesen
In 1992, the governor requested it.
So what I mean, what are we even saying?
Like, this is such a good illustration of how states' rights don't even mean anything specific to Alex.
It's just a thing to yell when you're not getting your way.
If you sincerely believe in states' rights, then you believe that the federal government doesn't get to dictate immigration laws that states are then required to follow.
The states' rights argument is largely based on the Tenth Amendment, which says that all powers that aren't clearly designated to the federal government by the Constitution are the authority of the states.
The federal government could do small numbers of things, and then the rest of it is left up to the states to decide.
The states are supposed to have even more sway than the Supreme Court because decisions like ones guaranteeing access to abortion or marriage equality, those are attacked by folks like Alex on the grounds that states should make their own rules on that stuff despite.
Despite Supreme Court rulings.
States rights doesn't mean states rights in a literal sense.
It's a buzzword and a dog whistle of the right wing southern strategy, and one of the founders of that school of thought explained it pretty simply.
Quote, you start in nineteen fifty four by saying N, N, N. By nineteen sixty eight, you can't say N, that hurts you, it backfires.
So you say stuff like forced busing, states rights, and all that stuff, and you're getting so abstract.
Now you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things, and a byproduct of them is blacks get hurt worse than whites.
We want to cut this is so much more abstract than even the busing thing., in a hell of a lot more abstract than NN.
That was how Lee Atwater, noted former partner of Roger Stone, described it.
And this has been a critical part of how the far right operates ever since.
And so I think that pretending that the states' rights thing really ever meant anything more than that is a losing game.
jordan holmes
Yeah, in all honesty, in that clip, the CNN reporter is at fault.
That is pathetic.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That is pathetic.
How old are you?
unidentified
Well, I think that I find it interesting.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's certainly not a powerful reputationudiation.
jordan holmes
It's not it's none at all.
It's a misunderstanding of what's even being done to you.
You're a dance partner in a game and you are either willingly doing it or so dumb that 2025 years since the year of Jesus Christ have passed before you understand that maybe these people are lying to you.
dan friesen
Right.
I don't know who that person on CNN was because I didn't look into it.
So I don't want to.
jordan holmes
It doesn't matter.
dan friesen
Right.
I don't want to make too many assumptions.
But I think what you're coming at this with is you believe that there's not really a difference between a person no pushback and weak pushback?
I mean, because what she's illustrating or doing there is a form of pushback, but it's a weak pushback.
jordan holmes
It's nothing, right?
It's nothing to use this question.
It's not even engaging with what's happening.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It's willfully misunderstanding what's happening or being so stupid that you can't engage with what's happening because what's happening is he's beating you with his ball sack.
Right.
And that is what is being shown is it has nothing to do with anything that you're saying.
None of the words either of you are saying have meaning.
He's just slapping you with his dick.
That's what you're doing.
dan friesen
That's what you that's the way you you see it.
You see, that's what it is.
jordan holmes
That's what it is.
Because what is she saying?
Even if she's saying, I find it interesting to note that it's states' rights whenever Republicans want it, but not whenever Democrats want it.
When has that not been the case?
Since fucking Bush?
Right, twenty years.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
See, this is where, like, my sticking point is with, I don't know who this person was.
I don't know what this show was.
Sure.
I don't know if it's her role on the show to yell about your balls.
jordan holmes
No, that's fine.
dan friesen
Yeah.
In the sense of like, if this is a moderator or someone who's just on the show.
Sure.
I think that this I understand your position.
I just don't know if I can fully commit to it that ineffective or ineffectual pushback is the same as nothing.
Because there's a world where she says nothing on this show.
jordan holmes
I would go so far as to say as ineffectual pushback is worse than if she just said nothing.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
If she just said nothing and just stared at this man as he dissembled bullshit.
And then at the end of it went, None of that was true.
Good night.
And then moved on.
That would be better than if she goes, I find it interesting that sometimes Republicans do this, but then they're not whenever that's even what you're implying is that this man is lying to you, and you're not even willing to engage with that.
dan friesen
Sure, but the person who, like this guy just says whatever he says, she says nothing, and then at the end says, None of that was true.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
is a different kind of pushback.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It's not no pushback.
Yeah, well, I mean, it is essentially allowing a different kind of pushback to what you are, what you heard.
jordan holmes
Or perhaps I would say that that is pushback as compared to what she was doing, which is not actually pushback.
It is something that is masquerading as pushback when in reality is submission.
dan friesen
I don't fully agree with you, but I understand where you're coming from.
And I think that there's an arc, there's a point to be made there.
And I don't I don't fully agree with you black and white.
I understand.
I I think I think that I think we can both come together on a there should be better pushbacks.
jordan holmes
I can I can agree with you there.
dan friesen
That's definitely true.
jordan holmes
There's any doubt.
dan friesen
So I got really excited because at a certain point Alex was teasing that someone real special was going to be on.
I was like, who the fuck could this be?
unidentified
Hmm.
alex jones
Okay.
I want to show you someone really special, thirty plus years ago, who knew more about the New World Order than even I know today.
And this is going to be really special at the start of the next hour.
Then I'm going to get into all this other news.
Also, AI video depicts hellish globalist dystopia, sexbots, own nothing, live in pods, eat the bugs.
That's coming up.
Next hour is going to be particularly powerful.
Then it's ongoing, a huge Russian conference with Laboroth and other top leaders of Russia about the globalist plan to exterminate humanity.
I was asked to attend it, so I did it remotely.
And we're going to have some big excerpts of that.
That also Elon Musk's father was speaking.
dan friesen
This is fucking insane.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Alex was invited to a conference called Future Forum 2050, which was put together by a Putin aligned oligarch named Konstantin Malofjev.
Malofjev has strong ties to the Kremlin, runs a pro-Putin TV station called Tsarsgrad, and is the subject of international sanctions.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
If Alex was paid for his appearance at this conference, it might be illegal.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
So I think doing it remotely might have been a little bit of a strategy that I can't afford a ticket to Russia with the bankruptcy going on.
If you buy me a ticket, you're under sanctions..
I might not be able to accept that.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
I'll just turn on the webcam.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fuck it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So here's a little clip from Alex's speech.
That he sent in for the conference.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he did that.
alex jones
So if you ask me, what can Russia do better?
I think you just do more of what you've been doing.
And people see what Russia has been through that are informed.
And it's been an exciting thing for us to see your successes against the globalists because we have the same enemies.
And we have that camaraderie.
We have that shared fight that we believe in sovereignty and the family and God and decency and hard work and and we're not ashamed of ourselves we don't hate ourselves we don't turn our children over to this satanic pedophile cult and so it's through that shared ideology that we understand that that transcends national borders that transcends history it transcends everything it's it's really who we are That doesn't mean we give up our sovereignty.
It makes our sovereignty even stronger because it's like in a ship.
You've got bulkheads in case one area floods.
The whole ship doesn't go down.
Or in an apartment building, you have firewalls inside in case there's a fire in one apartment.
It doesn't get out.
But we can take what the Russians have done and had success with, and we can duplicate it, augment it, expand on it, make it better.
You can take our successes and take that and expand on it.
And I think it's through that understanding that we can transcend this death cult that has tried to break our will.
And so I think at the end of the day, continue with your strong will that the world has seen so many times with Napoleon Bonaparte and Adolf Hitler and all the other invasions, and just know that there are people around the world, not just in America, that take your example as something very, very positive and something to emulate.
And quite frankly, in competition, I would like to surpass.
And America has done a lot of great things, but we also can't live on our predecessors and say that we are the most exceptional nation.
Yes, in our time, we've done some of the most exceptional things and at points in history have been the most exceptional, but it's like a soccer team that goes out and one year wins a championship and the next couple of years doesn't even make the finals.
That doesn't mean they're always the most exceptional.
So to use the soccer analogy, Russia has won some world championships, so has America.
We have that competition, but at the end of the day, we're all on the same team, Team Humanity.
dan friesen
Okay, so that's a good pretty good speech.
jordan holmes
I think that's about what Rocky four really wanted to say.
Yeah.
You know, that's what Rocky really was about.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What that was.
dan friesen
I think you're, I mean, the obvious message you're supposed to take away is that Russia's the best soccer team right now.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Right?
Because Alex, he says he wants to do better than them and he feels like he's not.
They're not, US isn't.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know.
dan friesen
America's not that exceptional.
Russia's more exceptional at this point.
jordan holmes
See, see, but Dragov, he wins and then Rocky wins.
It's, you know, that's what it is.
It's America, it's Russia., you win something, you lose something.
And you give and take, and then you hug at the end.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It makes sense.
dan friesen
So at the beginning of Alex's recorded little video that he sent to the Kremlin, right.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He holds up a piece of paper that is the piece of paper that they sent him, and it's got a bunch of questions on it.
Oh, no.
And so I was trying to zoom in and clear, like trying, but it was too fuzzy.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I couldn't actually see what the questions were, except for the last one, because it's handwritten on the piece of paper.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And it's what can Russia do better?
unidentified
And so this is the response that Alex has.
dan friesen
I don't think that he answers all of the other questions, right?
Because there's probably like five or six other ones that I couldn't make out.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And if anyone has like that CSI enhanced.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
kind of technology, please go find that and see what was on that paper, um, because it's shady as shit.
jordan holmes
Wow.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
I love that the answer to what can Russia do better is keep it up.
jordan holmes
That keep on keeping on.
I love that the answer could have been keep on keep it on or it could have been everyone's doing great keep on keep it on.
But instead was a meandering walk through three metaphors that.
fell apart almost immediately.
dan friesen
Well, but the only place where it really touches reality is keep on.
Keep on.
jordan holmes
That is true.
That is true.
When you when you remove all the, like, evil is coming to take us and Napoleon didn't kill you, so everything is happy.
You just get, yeah.
You guys are great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Love it.
jordan holmes
Crushing it.
dan friesen
So because Alex revealed that he sent this ten minute video in to Russia.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
For their conference that is named suspiciously like all the globalist conferences Alex is.
So again, because that really blew me away.
I've almost forgotten that someone spoke special was coming up.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I'm glad that Alex gets back to it because this is incredibly special.
alex jones
And I discovered last night someone and I posted on X that I never heard of.
And then I researched him last night and this morning and watched a bunch of his videos.
What a bummer that he's dead.
But see, well, I'll talk about the next segment.
This is just, it's wild.
And so, you want to hear about someone that was ahead of the curve.
I'm Demaris next day.
This guy, unbelievable.
dan friesen
This fucking guy, I saw a meme.
And this dude, who is this dude?
Harrow.
He hasn't said.
He's just a prophet.
It's a bummer, he's dead.
jordan holmes
Who is it?
dan friesen
Harrow.
jordan holmes
Oh my God.
dan friesen
You don't know, if I said the name, he wouldn't know who it is.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But we'll talk about it when.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay, whatever interview.
dan friesen
There's not like some fun thing or it's like Gene Hackman.
jordan holmes
Right, or it would be amazing.
dan friesen
Johnny Carson, he's just fucking funny.
He puts those envelopes up to his head.
He reads it every time.
unidentified
It's a prophet, I tell you.
dan friesen
So yeah, before we get to the revelation of who this prophet is, okay.
Alex gets really introspective and historical and wants to talk about the tradition of the Patriot movement and how there were a bunch of waves to it.
alex jones
Okay, I want to cover something from 31 years ago and I looked it out, that's when this interview was done.
And I've talked a lot about this over the years.
It's very important historically that I came in the third anti New World Order globalist wave.
And then the fourth wave starts.
started in about 2016 because the waves are coming quicker and quicker.
dan friesen
Pizza gate.
alex jones
Like everything in this big fourth turning acceleration.
And now there's already another wave forming, even more accelerated.
If you study the energetic nature of the great awakening and the political realignment that the globalists knew was here cyclically that they were trying to short circuit and bring it into an even greater tyranny.
But instead it's backfiring because we bet on humanity.
We didn't just believe we were trash and didn't have power and were just victims.
But being part of the third wave.
The first wave goes back to about 1910.
And Lindbergh and all the rest of it fighting the private Federal Reserve and fighting Woodrow Wilson and his New World Order plan and the fusion with the British Empire and trying to stop World War One.
dan friesen
So Alex is kind of correct.
He exists in a continuum of waves of figures who prefer fascism to democracy.
The numbering that he's using is meaningless, like third waves and all of that, like, what are you, a ska band?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Getting off this.
But he is right.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
This tradition that he I don't think it starts with Lindbergh.
I think there are things that pre date that would be relevant as waves.
Sure.
But yeah, fair enough.
jordan holmes
I would say that, you know, like if you just go with, instead of the fascism as political ideology and go with the function of an autocratic person on top kind of dictating things, you can go all the way back to Protestants, man.
You can do the whole thing trying to take down Catholics.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Sure.
I think there's something a little bit more specific in terms of this, which has to do with like, freedom really meaning businesses.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, like the way that Alex is going to say in this next clip, like, the John Birch Society is the second wave.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And their version of freedom, they love freedom so much, but it was freedom from having to pay your employees.
Sure.
Freedom from safety regulations.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, masquerading as like this real concern for constitutionalism and all this.
And I think that that also has a certain touch with, you know, Lindbergh.
jordan holmes
Nazis got a Nazi.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, but they're.
jordan holmes
Whenever they see each other, they dab.
It doesn't matter what era you're from, they're just dab.
dan friesen
There's a corporate Nazi thing though.
That I think is that runs through these waves that Alex conceptually got you.
alex jones
First wave goes back to about 1910 and Lindbergh and all the rest of it fighting the private Federal Reserve.
jordan holmes
You mean when women got the right to vote?
alex jones
His New World Order plan and the merger with the British Empire and trying to stop World War One.
And then that wave, it was a long one and was intellectual, had a lot of key people, but did not get a lot of traction.
And then a second wave comes in the 50s with Joseph McCarthy and with the John Byrd Society and with Senator Goldwater and others.
And then out of that big wave goes through the G. Edward Griffins and the Anthony Sutton's and countless other amazing people.
dan friesen
The specifics that Alex can point to for the first wave are basically people who wanted the US to not get involved in World War two, which in effect would have left Europe to be conquered by the Nazis.
A huge part of defeating the Nazis was the contribution of the Soviet Union, who were the target of the second wave of Alex's forefathers, folks like Joseph McCarthy and the John Birch Society.
This is not a coincidence.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would also say that if you line up the times, you would have women getting power and then non white men getting power and they line up very close with when the wave's it.
dan friesen
Once again, not a coincidence.
jordan holmes
Isn't that crazy?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's interesting.
dan friesen
So the third wave is the John Birch Society.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So Alex is the third wave, which is like Ruby Ridge and Waco.
alex jones
Sure.
The third wave starts at Waco.
That's the big really Ruby Ridge and then Waco 92, 93.
And then the next wave starts 2016 and is 100 times bigger and then Crescendo right now with Trump's reelection getting in delivering on the agenda to a great extent in only 141 days.
I would say right as the left.
launches these uprisings, not just here but worldwide funded by the globalists and the CIA, your tax money, that that is a counter to the fifth wave.
And if you had to pick a date for the fifth wave, it is the army's birthday this Saturday, Trump's birthday, Flag Day.
June 14th, 2025 is the beginning of the fifth wave.
And it's the wave we've got.
to complete, to change the entire course and make it past the fork of the road, that would change the civilization.
All of our ancestors, all of their will, God's force working through us, is now focused on the beginning of this wave.
The fifth wave is here.
It's cresting, and we got to jump up on top of it on that board.
And like the Silver Surfer, come in.
This is it.
dan friesen
The Silver Surfer is the herald of Galactus who eats worlds.
jordan holmes
So not a good, not a good grasp on protagonism and antagonism.
Does not understand those two concepts.
dan friesen
Now, I think that, but given that we're in the future a little bit and we know some things, I think that it looks really bad to say that june 14 is going to be the kickoff of the fifth wave.
jordan holmes
You think?
dan friesen
That God and everyone is focusing all their attention on when, you know, that day, that morning, this guy went out and shot these lawmakers.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And texted his family, dad went to war today.
Yeah, yeah.
I think that there's a little bit too much going on here that Alex should really reflect on.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, the irony of it is that like that it would be if he was going to if the connection to Alex and this was going to be examined in court, it would be because he called he's like Alex drove me insane, right?
Like that's the only way that this connection would really be in any way kind of investigated in court.
He would have to bring it up as the reason that I did this.
dan friesen
And even then, I don't know what, like, legal culpability Alex could, could have.
But that doesn't mean that we're stupid and pretend that this shit isn't, like, in some way, at least spiritually connected.
Yeah.
So, because of that, because of the talk of the fifth wave, yeah, the fifth wave.
I once again almost forgot that there was someone very special.
A prophet.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Who Alex discovered last night and is unfortunately dead.
Well.
And thankfully, Alex does get back to back to it.
alex jones
Okay.
And so last night I was going around the web and saw a post on X saying, Wow, this guy said all this 30 plus years ago.
So I click it and everything he says is accurate.
So then I repost it and say, Who is this guy?
And they tell me who he is.
And then I started watching his other videos.
And then I sadly learned he died years ago.
jordan holmes
End of story.
alex jones
A black man from Chicago, a doctor, a pastor, but also a scientist.
And I looked it up, 31, the post said 30.
31 years ago, he made this clip you're about to see from a movie, Dr. Dilbert Blair.
dan friesen
So I think Alex might not have done too much digging around into Dilbert Blair.
I feel like he saw a popular tweet going around and he wanted to get in on some of that attention, so he's pretending that this guy is on the same page as him.
It is true that Alex and Blair have a fair amount of overlap, but Alex should absolutely hate this dude.
He's associated with the Nation of Islam and he's a major supporter of a pseudoscience called melanin theory.
The basic piece of that school of thought is that black people are superior to white people because they have more melanin, which gives black people adaptability and some magical powers.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
To put it simply, Alex is spending a large part of his time endorsing a black supremacist because he saw a meme that looked like it might be an opportunity for him to find a new figure to add to the third wave pantheon of his fight against the globalists.
jordan holmes
Hey, if we've got a black guy, it's not all white people and it's not very obvious that we're Nazis.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is such a great example of Alex just being a social media addicted dick shit and not even having any curiosity.
He saw this meme and then he decided to pretend he's looked into this gu guy a bunch, so the audience comes away with the impression that Alex was curious and he wanted to learn.
Alex just doesn't care.
He saw a meme that said, and he just said, like, that works for me.
If he'd spent even a couple minutes looking into Delbert Blair, there's no way he would not come to the conclusion that this is a white genocide guy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And to be fair, I don't, from the clips that I've watched, I watched a few of his lectures.
Sure.
I don't think Blair doesn't come off to me as like the same kind of black supremacist as like kill the whites or anything like that.
It is far more pseudoscience based like, hey, if we just chill out, the white people will all die because God has created us in a way that we'll survive things they won't.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
I like that point of view.
dan friesen
It's a little I mean, I don't like it.
It's a little bit less hatred.
jordan holmes
All things considered, that point of view at least doesn't bother me.
dan friesen
And it takes a little while longer of watching some of it in order to get the point that he's making.
Right.
Whereas someone screaming, I kill the whites.
Alex could easily recognize that as being something he probably shouldn't endorse.
jordan holmes
I mean, I will say that if his theory is based almost entirely on the idea that white people are.
worse at the sun than us.
I don't think that's a bad basis for a theory.
dan friesen
That's not all.
Yeah, see, that's where Yeah, it's a piece of it.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex loves this dude.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And literally, he talks about nanotech, imprinting you and tracking you, he talks about the geoengineering that had just started operationally then.
And he literally nails it better than anyone today.
31 years ago.
We got to get everything this guy said.
In fact, more and more I realize people don't listen to what's happening now, they listen to people who got it right before.
There are so many people, not many like this guy.
I mean, this is whole and one.
jordan holmes
I agree with that.
alex jones
This is Tiger.
jordan holmes
Not many like that guy.
alex jones
Fighting the New World War.
dan friesen
This is whole and one, Tiger Woods type stuff.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Then Alex goes even further, okay.
alex jones
And here is this doctor.
I'll read you his Bible and come back.
Engineer, research scientist, metaphysics teacher, historian of the highest level.
That's what they wrote about him decades ago.
Well, boy, isn't it proven now?
Every damn thing I've watched him say is 100% nailed and decades before even the best of us could figure it all out.
Wow.
dan friesen
So I get that Alex liked the meme that he saw and it's kind of embarrassing to spend time on your show saying, I saw a meme that I liked, so now I'm going to try and mythologize the guy in it.
So this game is kind of necessary.
Alex has to pretend that he watched a bunch of Blair's videos and that he's right about everything, because that gives this whole thing a lot more weight.
It makes Alex seem studious and not like who he really is, a lazy dick shit who just rants about his Twitter feed.
But since Alex wants to play, let's fucking play.
Here are some things that Blair has said that Alex is now endorsing as totally correct and decades before its time.
dr delbert blair
We talk of the Tetradition, which of course Jewish people cannot affirm.
They would not say the name Yahweh.
They would not say Yad Hivar Hey.
They would not say any of those things because they were not the chosen for this energy.
They were usurpers and interpreters of the books of magic without the soul to contend with them.
But the soulless ones and the soul ones were both asleep.
dan friesen
So I guess Alex thinks the Jewish people have no soul.
jordan holmes
That's going to happen.
dan friesen
So far so.
jordan holmes
You're reading the books of magic.
Some people can, some people can.
It's the magic.
dan friesen
Right.
So Alex is like really into this now, okay.
unidentified
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
Let's see what else Delbert has to say.
jordan holmes
What you got going on, Delbert?
dr delbert blair
Let me just say this as I conclude the first part.
They not only have found the same Sphinx on Mars, as the Zulu also told you, but on the Moon, okay.
On Jupiter, and everywhere they go, the same Sphinx carries them back.
The Sons of God did not just come to the Earth.
They are the masters of our solar system and our constellation.
Just because in Star Wars there was war between the good and the bad.
What are we doing with it?
The war here on Earth.
They hid that book from the Bible, The Wars of the Lords.
They hid all the things that would let you begin to understand that you were different from the other races of Earth, and Earth was your home, not theirs.
dan friesen
So I guess that Alex thinks that there are space sphinxes all over the place, which prove that Egyptians and Africans are the true people of Earth and descendants of the gods, whereas white people don't belong here.
That's a pretty big leap for Alex to endorse that.
You know what I like?
jordan holmes
I like a job.
I like a title.
I like a person who says, hey, I'm an engineer.
Because when the person says, hey, I'm an engineer, what they're doing is they're infusing years giving a shit about engineering into the title engineer.
I don't like, I'm not saying that you can't be a polymath.
I'm not saying that you can't be a polymath.
dan friesen
I think he did, I think he did start his own church.
And I think he did, he does have a school of metaphysics.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he could, he did those things.
jordan holmes
These are things you can just say about yourself.
That's why I don't like it.
Right.
Because you've got a lot of titles.
dan friesen
Historian is if he.
unidentified
Historian?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Sphinx is on Jupiter, historian!
dan friesen
Yeah.
And the moon.
jordan holmes
And the moon.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He also believes that the earth is hollow as is the Mars.
jordan holmes
See, these are fine.
dan friesen
Yeah, sure.
jordan holmes
Those are fine.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, they kind of are, except for the way that they always seem to be also, hey, Jews have no soul.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there is that.
dan friesen
Those things seem to always go hand in hand.
jordan holmes
It's a real problem.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So let's hear some more.
Let's hear what Alex's new ideology is.
dr delbert blair
Human, by which, if you look in the encyclopedias and dictionary, it says we're all human beings.
jordan holmes
Always a good.
dr delbert blair
That's a lie.
We are not all human beings.
Human is animal man.
Hugh was a god Hugh, which ruled the lower plains again under the old teaching of the ancient Sudanese and Nubian people and later on the so called Egyptian people, which was a mixed race.
unidentified
Sure.
dr delbert blair
You're going to find out just how mixed in a minute.
jordan holmes
How mixed?
dr delbert blair
Human did not come from God or what we call the Creator.
unidentified
Sure.
dr delbert blair
But from lords or what we now call the Lord God and animals.
unidentified
Okay.
dr delbert blair
They were a creation by scientists whom we now refer to as Lord Gods.
jordan holmes
See, this is where you lost me.
dr delbert blair
And they made humans by engrafting and changing the animal life at different times as they found it on this planet and from other planets.
jordan holmes
I'm back on board.
dr delbert blair
We'll drop them off here.
Godman, this is the key, and the ones that had the key to the Sphinx and the pyramid were from the sons of gods, which we now refer to as the angels.
dan friesen
So now we're definitely in the territory of polytheism where there's an overarching creator god and then a bunch of lower gods, which Alex definitely isn't supposed to agree with.
jordan holmes
Not a good thing.
dan friesen
And I'll give you one guess who Delbert thinks is a real man and who is a man animal..
The point here is that Alex is so caught up in chasing whatever's popular on his Twitter feed that he spends a large chunk of time on this show promoting this guy who he should hate while the US is supposedly in a civil war, a literal civil war.
This is just such nonsense.
I can't believe I can't believe how low the bar is.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is wild to hear in the past a dude do the exact same thing.
Just like, huh man.
See huh?
You just split him up and now I've got a whole thing to tell you.
dan friesen
Huh, my.
jordan holmes
Like, ah, come on.
Just a couple of weeks ago we heard Alex start spe splitting up words.
Just a few weeks before that, we heard some other ding dong saying, Oh, the sun.
dan friesen
Foundation of Bill Cooper.
jordan holmes
You got Bill Cooper's whole thing, Jesus Christ, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Etymology is one of the most widely abused things in the world.
jordan holmes
Words are just noises, man.
Just noises.
dan friesen
So some noises come out of Alex's mouth as he tries to read Delbert's bio, which is on his own website.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that engineer label and the historic that's self-described.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That seems, it seems odd.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
All right, let's get into it.
unidentified
The show.
alex jones
So I discovered last night an amazing individual and I probably spent an hour last night watching his videos and about an hour this morning I didn't have got up about 4 a.m. because I was researching everything else but I'm going to try to get some of the people that worked with him on play more of his clips in the future but Dr. Dilbert Blair was an engineer research scientist metaphysics teacher and
historian of the highest level for over 60 or 50 years.
He was the director of the Metacenter in Chicago since 1973, former pastor on his own church and lectured and answered questions in over two hundred forums on various topics such as the facts and myths.
It goes on twenty twelve, the eighteenth dynasty of Egypt, our sons, radiation in hospitals, calls from running out of gas.
The dangers of mobile phones and other energy vampires, ELF, high frequency waves, sexual energy dangers, the dangers of driving cars and other models of transportation, applied science, meditation, and much more.
dan friesen
You can tell that as Alex is reading that bio, he starts to realize, oops, I should have looked into this before I decided to cover it this way.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This dude's bio includes references to his lectures on 2012, Truth and How Driving Cars is Evil.
Also, when Alex says Our Sons, I should point out that this is Sons with a U, and Alex is he seems to be intentionally omitting the word to.
It was Our Two Sons.
I think he did that because he doesn't want to deal with the fact that Blair believes that there are two sons.
This is embarrassing.
What a fucking asshole.
jordan holmes
Wow.
I you know, it's so much of a shit.
So sometimes I'll scroll.
I'm a human being, by which I mean a human and I'm a monkey man.
I'm a monkey man that scrolls and sometimes I'll see something because the internet does that and then I'll go, Well, that's obviously not true and then I'll look it up and there's a good chance that it's not.
But sometimes it is and it's an exciting moment.
True.
I wouldn't want to share that moment of discovery.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I like that moment.
dan friesen
You just saw it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I like that moment to be alone in my private time, not being like, ah!
in front of me.
dan friesen
Alex has just spent multiple segments on his show building up to playing this meme.
Yeah.
And right there, you felt the air.
come out of the room.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Right when he saw twenty twelve written on that page.
That was the beginning of the end.
jordan holmes
Sometimes you just want someone to say, Oops, and then move on.
dan friesen
Guys, I'm gonna bail.
jordan holmes
This is a hot air balloon and I am jumping.
Goodbye.
dan friesen
So Alex plays the meme.
alex jones
So here's a clip of him, 30 plus years ago, almost 31 years ago, laying out what was currently being beta tested and what we now all live under now.
This is powerful.
Here it is.
dr delbert blair
Under foods, modified..
Tomato, potato, asparagus, broccoli, coliflower, almost all the basics are.
Purposely.
And as you know, they have a Terminator seed now too.
unidentified
Yes.
dr delbert blair
Because the farmers can't plant seeds, you can't plant seeds now unless you buy it from the government.
They come up one season and they're gone with you.
They're already modified.
dan friesen
That clip is not thirty years old.
It's definitely from a currently created meme alleging that this is a thirty year old video.
But Delbert looks a bit older than he would have been in the nineties.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
When he's talking there.
Those clips that I played before, those were from a lecture that he did in 1994, which is thirty one years ago.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
This other clip of him talking about these GMO seeds, I think is probably like 15 years old.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's Monsanto's.
dan friesen
I can't date it, but it's not from the 90s.
jordan holmes
They wouldn't, they didn't exist.
dan friesen
And he's visibly older than he was in 1994.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Sounds definitely older.
dan friesen
It sounds a lot different.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that meme itself has a watermark on it, indicating that it was created by an account called Alkaline Underscore Institute.
This is a lunatic clickbait Instagram account where someone using the name William Hogue cuts together memes of people talking pseudoscience bullshit.
A lot of it centers around health and wellness type nonsense, because if you look a little bit deeper, Hogue runs a site called Alkalinism, which sets off about every possible red flag for scams.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
His site reads, quote, I'm William Hogue, your guide on a journey towards better health, empowered habits, and meaningful income.
In twenty twenty, my design business was hit hard, and like many, I needed something new.
That's when I found a wellness opportunity through a friend in the skateboarding world.
Skeptical at first, I did the research, tested the product, and committed part time.
Today, I've helped over a hundred families transform their health and finances.
Now, I'm here to share this same opportunity with you so you can decide if it's the right fit for your life.
Congratulations for looking into this.
Ninety percent of people will miss this important information.
Then right underneath that, there's a heading that says trusted by the best.
And then under that, there's a ton of pictures of celebrities like Steven Tyler, Tom Brady, Kevin Hart, and Mariah Carey, obviously meant to insinuate probably illegally that these people are involved with this guy's business.
jordan holmes
Well, just that they trust him.
dan friesen
He's trusted by the best.
jordan holmes
They trust him.
We don't know with what.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
What about?
dan friesen
This is a textbook pyramid scheme landing page, and the marketing strategy that this guy is using to is to put out these memes that he hopes will go viral and the watermark.
will lead people back to his multi level marketing opportunity.
Alex is essentially helping promote this guy's business by playing this ad, and in the process, he's decided to make a black supremacist one of the unsung important heroes of the fight against the devil.
This is such trash, and the reason that it's happening is because Alex knows he doesn't even have to try.
He's told the audience that the US is in a literal civil war, and this is the kind of shit that he's bringing to the table because it doesn't matter.
He has no respect for the information that he's passing along to the audience.
jordan holmes
No, it's demonic.
It is demonic what they do to all of us because this is the.
dissonance that you feel when you get told and understand that the most powerful man in the world is going to stand and give a speech, and then he stands in front of the Four Seasons Gardening Outlet, and you're like, You can't be both.
You can't be both.
You have to be one or the other.
dan friesen
You can't be fighting God's fight against the devil that kicks off on june 14, and you know, everything is so important.
We're in a literal civil war.
And also, this meme takes up an hour on my fucking show.
jordan holmes
Yep, and it's about a guy who I didn't know until just now.
You found out.
You Find Out believes there are two sons.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I'm pretending that I looked into this guy pretty deeply because I was fascinated by the meme that I saw.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Well, guess what?
I was fascinated by Alex talking about him, and then I watched a bunch of his lectures.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So I know what he's about.
jordan holmes
Right.
That's the weird thing about actually being the person who looks into stuff, as opposed to being the person who tells people you're the person who looks into stuff.
dan friesen
It's dissonant.
jordan holmes
It's very hard.
dan friesen
So the clip, the actual meme that Alex plays, has this stuff about the Monsanto Terminator siege and shit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It has that, and then there's also a clip from the 94 lecture.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So there's a little bit of that that.
And Alex is confused a little.
dr delbert blair
A spiritual person doesn't need a church for the home and temple of God that they find their souls in is the church and how they keep it clean and how they keep it out of ignorance and what they do is it shows their manifestation of the God's light.
For the other, they need a religious fervor and constantly reminded because they don't have quite the soul that is risen to the point where they can again manifest the Creator in them.
So they constantly have to remind themselves as a herd come together to give themselves the strength to carry on.
That is changing.
That's why you're going to find the church being attacked like never before and leaders in false churches falling like never before.
And that's why the fall wells and all the rest of it.
And you find them like little animals attacking each other, each one pulling each other down and the congregation suffering from it.
Because man must learn he doesn't have to go to a church, he is the church.
alex jones
And of course Jesus said that over and over again in the New Testament.
And the church says, Oh, no, no, no, you're not God.
He's not saying you're God.
You raise your consciousness, God raises it, and now you can interface directly with God.
dan friesen
This right here is a dead giveaway that Alex is either is either a liar or he hasn't watched the whole lecture that this comes from.
Delbert is very explicitly saying that man is God, specifically the man with higher levels of melanin.
The sign of being a descendant of God and therefore containing the potential to be God is an operating pineal gland.
And the pineal gland produces melanin, so people with more melanin are the god humans, and the people with less melanin are people who are animal humans.
jordan holmes
Makes sense.
dan friesen
His lecture argues that man was originally neither male nor female, but a self-replicating being.
But over time, lower level gods have engaged in genetic manipulation of the human to turn us into mere animals.
jordan holmes
What about you weirdos?
dan friesen
It's a one part five percenter.
Five percent kind of talk, one part Age and Aliens, but nothing of it is acceptable to Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't think Yahoo!
is hanging out.
No.
dan friesen
No, Yahoo!
is in play.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it feels very struggling like Yahoo!
is there.
dan friesen
The way that Alex is signing off on this guy based on a meme meant to promote a guy's alternative health pyramid scheme is tragic.
It's it's like seeing a guy hit a rake.
Yeah.
But only once.
It doesn't have the brilliance of the humor of the repeat.
jordan holmes
It's just, ugh.
And it's even more disgusting because you don't get the you don't get the recognition that you just walked into a rake likeke, it hits them in the face, there's a rake shape, a red spot, and then they just keep walking as though nothing had ever happened.
I need closure on you stepping into that rake, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
No, he's just going to probably ignore it and move on.
jordan holmes
Say Ow!
alex jones
Nah.
dan friesen
So Alex has an idea of how he can, uh, sort of profit from this meeting.
unidentified
I'll start a multilevel marketing scam.
alex jones
And on target, because he's saying it thirty years ago.
And because it's all right.
You could take every five seconds he says and do a whole broadcast with documents about how he was right.
That's what I forgot to do last night when I was watching these clips.
He just sent it to McBreen, the best probably to do it or do, or somebody there.
Everybody's great.
I want to take Dr. Dilbert Blair's clips and I want to put news articles and clips to it and have him say it, boom.
Say it, boom.
Say it, boom.
Because that's what really wakes people up, is seeing something thirty years ago come perfectly true like you were told.
dan friesen
So I can't wait for Alex to not do this.
But I would love to see him flash up on the screen a news article that confirms this.
unidentified
Okay.
dr delbert blair
Mark my words, you're going to hear more and more talk about the Sphinx this year and through 96 than you've ever had.
And by 95 and 96, it's going to start giving off vibrations.
Just as man's skull that is the son of God will start giving off vibrations.
When it gives off vibrations, the skull of man, the real man, the sons of God, will also start giving off vibrations.
And when that tunnel to the Grand Gallery also opens as the stone falls away, so will the tunnel leading to the pineal gland within the sons of God open and the powers will begin to run.
dan friesen
through him once more.
So that happened in 1996.
I like that.
jordan holmes
It's in the Washington Post.
I like that that's in a lecture.
Probably in front of a lecturn.
dan friesen
Ah, sitting at a table.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Because that's that would if I'm in a graduation setting and someone's like, Listen, you're gonna want to strap in for this.
That's what I want to hear.
dan friesen
Sure, but this isn't a graduation setting.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
No, this isn't like, Oh, we're just going to, we're just waiting to throw our caps in the air.
Yeah.
Let's at least be entertained.
No, this is a this is a lecture on what man is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Don't think it would be a small school if it was a graduation ceremony.
I don't think it was well, a super long ceremony.
Yeah.
So I feel like it's really funny just to imagine Alex trying to take these actual things and be like, yeah, okay, here's proof of that, here's proof of that.
But from that last clip, you can see why this meme, Alex, why he got so excited about it.
He gets so much more traffic and attention on Twitter from old clips of his that he can present as if they were prophetic, and now he's found this guy who's presented as if he's saying prophetic things in a clip that Alex saw on Twitter.
If Alex were a sincere actor, you would call this him getting high on his own supply.
But he doesn't actually think the Delbert's prophetic.
He doesn't even care to learn about him past what exists in the meme that he saw, and he doesn't even have a good grasp on that.
This is not Alex falling for the same game that he plays on his audience, it's an instance of him recognizing the potential of using Delbert to play the same game on his audience.
This is cynical bullshit, and the person who probably benefits the most is that alkaline guy.
He gets away clean in this whole thing.
Theoretically, Alex is showing this meme to a broader audience.
They all see the watermark on it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They'll all whoever wants will go and maybe fall into his trap.
jordan holmes
I imagine, here's what I imagine.
If we if we remove the words and the things that he's doing and we just like replace it with a very similar concept.
I imagine a small child with a blindfold on getting like blocks by a scientist and then they put the they feel it and then they put the block in the correct hole, right?
Simple shit.
But they can't see.
Now I imagine that the scientist just starts handing blocks to this person and they just fucking start jamming shit wherever they possibly.
can, throwing it off the back, bouncing all across the walls and then they just leave.
And then they just leave.
That's Alex.
It's infuriating.
dan friesen
And he insists he passed the test.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, man.
What was that?
dan friesen
So Alex, you know, he's not going to give up on this and he's going to try and he's going to stake his, even look, reading that bio was a little embarrassing.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I think he feels like he made his way through it.
alex jones
Why?
Viral videos probably 20 million views yesterday just on X of not just our channel people picking it up and I would just look at the comments just a third of them are.
like, God, he's one of them.
How does he know this?
I just told you in the report how I knew.
I showed you.
Because I want you to get it.
You don't want to give men fish.
You want to teach them how to catch fish.
See, I don't want to sit there and feed you like you're a domesticated animal information.
And you go, oh, God, Alex Jones is the high priest.
He gives us information.
No, I want you to understand how you get the information.
Because I can go watch a few hours of this guy's videos and every damn word of It's dead on.
And I can tell you, that's the Holy Spirit.
That was God speaking through that man.
You were getting a message from God, from Dr. Dilbert Blair.
dan friesen
Oh, so God was speaking through Dilbert.
jordan holmes
Yeah, God.
dan friesen
Oh, I guess this was this was God.
Is this God?
Is this God?
dr delbert blair
This summer you will hear, and starting this summer, probably for the next three years, about the sunspot activity being on the increase.
unidentified
Sure.
dr delbert blair
You'll begin to hear more, again, about solar activity, prominences, all types of energy from the sun that will be very harmful.
You'll hear about ultraviolet light burning tissue and melanomas and carcinomas affecting the blood and the skin of people on earth.
For the sons of God who have an active pineal, that will be a day of blessing for it will not affect you.
You will not be burned, you will simply darken and the melanin growing.
It's almost like a vicious cycle to make you more and more powerful.
As they get cancers of the skin and glands, you will get glands beginning to awaken and throwing out the frequencies that are not good and reconnecting the DNA molecules that were separated.
jordan holmes
Sounds true.
dr delbert blair
For at one time we had twelve strands of DNA, now we have two.
dan friesen
So that was God's plan.
jordan holmes
It doesn't sound like random made up bullshit at all.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Son will give you superpowers.
Have you seen Superman?
jordan holmes
I what we need, we need Spike and Denzel to get together and make Malcolm X the identical movie, but with this guy.
Just the same.
Because the way he says so authoritatively and with such conviction, things that are absolutely insane.
Yeah, it's amazing.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, and I think that if you watched like his like Fuller lecture, I don't think you would have a different perspective.
No, there would just be more.
Yeah.
And I find it legitimately impossible to imagine that Alex watched anything past the meme if he he's trying to say that he watched hours hours of this guy.
Yeah, impossible.
jordan holmes
Impossible name name a length of time that you believe if you okay, you have his entire works in front of you.
All right.
Now, how long do you think he goes at any given point in time without saying something absolutely absurd.
dan friesen
Maybe a couple of minutes.
And that's why there are a couple of other videos that you can find on like social media that get posted.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That are like a minute long.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Something.
And there are other clips that kind of sound like, Oh, fuck, this guy's on to something.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's talking, he's talking about transcendence or, you know, like there are, yeah, I'd say a minute and a half.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
But now, imagine you have his entire works and you have every one minute and a half that he's done of not insanity and you cut that out from everything else.
That still wouldn't equal.
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
No, there's not an hour of all those minutes that you can put together.
dan friesen
No, and someone would have to really selectively put that together.
jordan holmes
It would be an insane amount of work.
dan friesen
So I've sort of tried to not avoid, but I don't want to make too big of a deal of the fact that Alex was really particularly interested in this guy because he's black.
Yeah.
But unfortunately, Alex.
jordan holmes
That's the whole reason.
dan friesen
Well, Alex kind of makes it too close.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Boy, don't you wish you could get all those rioting Hispanic and Black and Antifa people leading him?
Don't you wish you could set him down and make him watch make them watch Dr. Dilbert Blair for a few hours?
And say, does your ideology ever give you anything that empowers you?
Does your ideology ever do anything but lie to you?
You're always going to get this free lunch, just keep following the carrot hanging in front of your face?
Does your ideology know things decades before?
No, your ideology is a lie to slave and destroy you.
Because your ideology comes from the devil.
dan friesen
I don't think that watching hours of Dilbert Blair would lead people towards info wars.
I think it might that's strongly down.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't know if that's, if there's a persuasive argument in that, in what I, at least in what I've listened to.
dan friesen
Yeah.
No, I mean, look, he's, he's, is he persuasive?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
But he's not without people who gravitate towards him.
He's not like, he's not someone who has no followers.
jordan holmes
Sure.
No, I'll just say this, that if, if one of your arguments is, one day, eventually, white people will start to melt and black people will have superpowers, I'm fully on board with you the day that happens.
But until that happens, sorry, buddy.
dan friesen
He also does this thing in the lecture where he has people, well, only men.
Women can't do this because they don't have to see.
jordan holmes
There we go.
There it is, buddy.
dan friesen
It's a blessing.
jordan holmes
Every time.
dan friesen
Or a curse.
Not entirely sure, but whatever it is.
Men, put your tongue on the top of your mouth.
unidentified
Greg.
dan friesen
He has it like them try and feel in their mouth with their tongue to try and find the pineal sinus hole.
Anyway.
Persuasive.
It's sort of.
jordan holmes
Not entirely persuasive.
dan friesen
So anyway, this is where I we're going to end.
unidentified
I don't want to end.
jordan holmes
I want to listen to that guy for a while.
dan friesen
Well, Alex only has the meme.
So unfortunately, I had to go get the other stuff because Alex is a lazy dick.
But I think there's something really, endlessly fascinating about this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And in that he saw this meme, where this meme comes from is a multi level marketing scam guy.
He's promoting this.
And because it serves his interests to try and add another character, particularly a black character, into the John Burton scam.
John Birch Society, Charles Lindbergh, a kind of series of waves of his patriotism or whatever.
Alex just completely makes a fake version of this guy in order to sell the audience and insists that that fake version is something that he has found from research.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Meanwhile, LA is supposed to be burning and the civil war starts in less than a week.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So what the fuck are we doing?
jordan holmes
Here's what I like about people who are transparently looking tokenize a non white male.
When it doesn't turn out the way they like, they inevitably do something like, Oh, well, I can make them say whatever words I want them to say, thus revealing how even more fucked up your racism actually is than just discrimination.
It is a complete non essence of them as human beings.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think that the way it's going to be expressed here probably is Alex might just be like, Yeah, we'll move on.
Yeah, you know, like, Yeah, it's probably not worth it to try and split up more stuff from his lectures.
You know, I think that Alex would probably be wise just like, Fuck it.
jordan holmes
Chase, take a look at that.
No, you've thrown it away.
Okay, well then never mind.
We're never going to do this.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, um, anyway, this has been something.
And we'll be back with another thing.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
Indeed, we do.
jordan holmes
It's knowledgefight dot com.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark.
I'm the mysterious professor.
alex jones
Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.
jordan holmes
And now here comes the Sex Robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
So, Alex, I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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