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April 25, 2025 - Knowledge Fight
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#1029: April 21, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan get back to Alex, only to find him advocating for reparations, complaining about Twitter, and celebrating the death of the Pope.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
18:17
d
dan friesen
30:26
j
jordan holmes
14:11
Appearances
Clips
p
pastor david manning
00:02
s
steve quayle
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
Dan and George.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
I need, I need money.
Andy and Kansas.
alex jones
Andy and, Andy.
Stop it.
Andy and, Andy and Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your word.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
No, no, no, no, no.
Knowledge fight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
alex jones
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
unidentified
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
Well, my bright spot today, I'll give this a little bit of a throw.
Thank you for the new pinky ring.
unidentified
Oh, thank you.
dan friesen
You got me a new pinky ring.
jordan holmes
I did.
dan friesen
As a nice birthday present, I'm very thankful.
It's nice.
It's got some runes on it, appears.
So that's cool.
Two pinky rings.
jordan holmes
We have a witch store.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We've been there plenty of times.
dan friesen
True, true.
It's where I've gotten bath salts.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Bath salts that have brought you wealth, happiness.
dan friesen
They have magical powers.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
100%.
So I figure if I'm going to get you a pinky ring, that's where we go.
dan friesen
Sure.
I mean, FFA won the Future Farmers of America.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
It was only a fill-in.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Until we could find something that maybe was a little better.
So now I've got an occult pinky ring.
jordan holmes
You're a witch!
dan friesen
Hurrah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, actually, the bright spot, though, is last night I went over to Angela Lampsbury's place.
We watched a little bit of a new movie called The Working Man.
jordan holmes
Oh!
I watched it, too!
dan friesen
I don't know about this movie.
jordan holmes
It's the worst movie I've ever seen!
dan friesen
I love The Beekeeper.
I think The Beekeeper is fantastic.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I will never tire of watching Jason Statham be a real great dude who beats people up.
jordan holmes
It's what he does.
dan friesen
Yes.
It is in my wheelhouse in terms of a movie to watch.
But I don't know.
It didn't get me the same way.
Although it was a really interesting experience to watch because it's opening up and you're like...
Huh, is that Chicago?
Wait, this takes place in Chicago.
jordan holmes
It does!
dan friesen
Crazy.
Wait, Sylvester Stallone wrote this?
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
What?
But yeah, not enough murder in it.
jordan holmes
It is a strangely chased, like, taken plus John Wick kind of thing.
But at the same time, it's like, everybody's wasted.
There's so many good people in it, weirdly enough, and they're all just like, ah, this sucks.
And then he punches a guy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, I could have used a little bit more.
Like, the beekeeper is crazy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this wasn't crazy enough.
And that to me is unfortunate, because if you made a hundred beekeepers, I would watch a hundred of them.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And now this is making me think, like, maybe not.
Maybe they don't have the formula.
jordan holmes
I think, honestly, you need to be more specific with jobs.
That's really what it is.
A working man?
Not enough!
dan friesen
I'm a working man.
jordan holmes
Beekeeper?
Transporter.
These are the things that you do in order to then murder a bunch of guys.
dan friesen
Yeah, and we all know what a working man is.
He's in construction.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
And he used to be in the military.
unidentified
I guess.
dan friesen
The British military.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's fine.
We all know that.
We don't know what the fuck a beekeeper is.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
You're just making that up.
jordan holmes
Completely.
dan friesen
And I think they need to make shit up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
In order for us to, for the buy-in of it, you know?
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
But it was still fun to watch.
I don't know.
Statham kicked a bunch of ass.
jordan holmes
You can't not keep watching.
dan friesen
And there was a guy named Dutch in it, which was fun.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is following up on my previous bright spot.
My wife and I went out, had a date at the Cubs game.
Fantastic night.
dan friesen
Cubs pulled out a win.
Unexpected.
jordan holmes
Couldn't be better.
Could not be better.
To the point where I wanted to be enshrined in law.
That nights cannot be as good as the night that my wife and I had last night.
dan friesen
I don't know how you're going to legislate that.
It's going to be tough.
Wait, you want to put a ceiling on good times?
jordan holmes
Absolutely, yep, it was that.
dan friesen
That's unfair.
jordan holmes
Legally, if you try and have a better time than that, you can't.
dan friesen
What if you accidentally do?
jordan holmes
Oh, well then I'm coming for you.
Oh, I'm coming for you.
dan friesen
Did you get some peanuts?
jordan holmes
Yes, of course I did.
Which was terrible because she's allergic to peanuts.
dan friesen
Yeah, that is true.
She was just throwing the shells at her.
jordan holmes
She was so kind to let me do my baseball rituals.
dan friesen
Give me some...
Peanuts and EpiPens.
I don't care.
jordan holmes
I wonder if they really don't care about peanut allergies in specific places still.
And a ballpark seems like, listen, if you get hit by a peanut, that's on you.
dan friesen
Well, it's not really on you, but you gotta know it's a risk of entry.
jordan holmes
It is what it is.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's still on whoever threw it.
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
And it is finally time.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
We're getting back to Alex.
jordan holmes
Ah, I was hoping to see what the third part of Mystery Babylon was gonna be.
dan friesen
It's very boring.
jordan holmes
I believe that.
dan friesen
We'll get back to Mystery Babylon at some point, but three, no good.
Oh.
So, I didn't want to do three in a row.
jordan holmes
I understand.
dan friesen
That's a little much.
So, we gotta get back to Alex.
I mean, we've had a nice little time.
Sure.
But, you know, we know what we have to do.
jordan holmes
We have a job.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This is what the show is about.
We gotta get back to Alex.
Yeah.
I was like, what are we going to do?
Re-enter a couple months ago?
That doesn't seem that good.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
That doesn't seem like what we should do.
So I decided...
The Pope just fucking died.
jordan holmes
The Pope did just fucking die.
dan friesen
Let's go.
jordan holmes
Let's do it.
dan friesen
So we're talking about April 21st, 2025, the day after the Pope died, and seeing where Alex's head is at.
jordan holmes
Finally, the Pope dying has led to something good.
dan friesen
Sure.
And the last time the Pope died, Alex was out of studio.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
David Knight was hosting.
That's true.
And so we did not get Alex's response to it.
So I thought, hey, this is going to be interesting.
He's actually there.
Let's see.
jordan holmes
Let's do it.
dan friesen
So we'll get down to business on this, but first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
First, in an interstellar burst, Jesse's back to save the universe.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
It's 2.15 in the morning.
Do you know where your god is?
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And Luke the Hound Dog, whose secret identity is Inspector Sniffington and his trusty human, Dan.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to In Memory of Elise, the biggest-hearted, kindest, smartest, funniest, and most empathetic among us.
You're sorely missed.
Rest easy, tiny horse.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone, someone, sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little, little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I mean, we've spent a little bit of time exploring some other things that, you know, we can incorporate.
We can incorporate some Tucker, go through this mystery Babylon and stuff, but we cannot lose focus of our primary ding-dong, and that is, of course, the thick-necked...
Texan.
jordan holmes
Our primary ding-dong.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
I think that should be his name.
Our primary ding-dong has the floor.
Yes.
dan friesen
So I, you know, Pope dead?
jordan holmes
Pope dead?
Pope dead.
dan friesen
And Alex starts off the show obviously needing to cover that.
alex jones
Yep.
The SJW Jesuit Pope is dead at 88. Died just hours after meeting with U.S. Vice President J.D. Vance.
jordan holmes
Connected.
alex jones
And to say that Pope Francis was the ultimate globalist pope so far is putting it lightly.
Absolutely supporting every major policy of the globalist open borders, world government, carbon taxes, all of it.
But that entire plan is falling apart.
dan friesen
Yeah, so the SJW woke pope is dead.
Just after meeting with J.D. Vance.
That is weird.
He stresses that timing every single time he talks about the Pope dying.
jordan holmes
Very strange.
dan friesen
Just after he saw J.D. It feels like he's trying to make you think that Vance killed the Pope.
jordan holmes
Okay, yeah.
I mean, it makes sense to make me think that.
My next thought, though, was like...
Oh, man.
That guy has done so much, and then the last thing he sees before he dies is J.D. fucking Vance.
Brutal.
dan friesen
I was looking at news stories, and it was saying that he was one of the last people that he saw.
I don't know if he was actually the last person who saw the talk.
jordan holmes
Fantastic.
That's good.
dan friesen
Yeah, that would be a real bummer.
Yeah, Vance.
Those weird eyes.
jordan holmes
Especially since you believe that you, I mean, by necessity, if you're the Pope, you kind of have to believe in an afterlife.
And to have a God that shows you that right before you get to the pearly gates, your first response is like, hey, God, what were you doing being a prick about?
dan friesen
Not cool.
jordan holmes
I was the Pope, dude!
dan friesen
That guy bummed me out.
But also, the premise of him killing the Pope is stupid because the Pope's been sick for a bit.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so, like...
I don't know.
I don't know what the importance that Alex is stressing on this is.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
We'll see.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think it would be very...
I mean, yeah, no, I guess in real life, it would be hilarious if the Vice President killed the Pope.
I think that would be a very funny thing to have happen.
dan friesen
Sure.
In order to try and undo Vatican II.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
That would be a funny thing to have happen.
dan friesen
It would be pretty crazy.
So there's a lot of stuff going on in the world, and Alex has something that he seems to be pushing for that I think is real weird for him.
alex jones
Multiple states are moving down a lot.
Same-sex couples adopt children because we know they'll target them on average for transgender mutilation.
There is so much happening today.
And we have something I've said for a long time.
You've got the left pushing reparations for people for slavery 180 years ago.
That's not in the law.
You yourself weren't a victim.
The people that did the victimization aren't alive.
What about everybody victimized by the Democratic Party letting in the illegal aliens and the unprecedented crime sprees?
Well, that could be reparations of the companies, NGOs, and groups that supported it, and that has real teeth in it.
See, reparations are supposed to be for people that were actually hurt.
And nobody's been hurt more by the illegal alien surge than black people and Hispanic, predominant Hispanic neighborhoods that have seen the majority of the suffering from Okay, so Alex wants reparation for immigration.
dan friesen
This is a little silly for a number of reasons.
It's silly just on its face, but then it's silly for Alex to endorse this because shouldn't he be paying reparations to the Sandy Hook families then?
This is nonsense.
This is so antithetical to his view of the world and responsibility.
But Stephen Miller has come out and been advocating this recently as a way to try and attack politically opposition organizations and Democrats and pretend that it's doing so in service of Quote-unquote reparations.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
Okay, so is this a new strategy that we could try?
It's like, oh man, we need to give women equal status because of the immigrants!
You know, like have we considered this?
dan friesen
I think it would ultimately, I think that using that kind of ploy or trickery in the way that you're using rhetoric plays into their advantage.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It would never be useful for good.
jordan holmes
Sure.
We'll see.
dan friesen
I think you would end up with women's rights being eroded and immigrant rights being eroded.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, my friend...
I don't know if you've looked outside.
dan friesen
No, no.
I understand that that is what is happening.
I just think that your strategy, like what you're saying, wouldn't solve that problem.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that works.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So like Jamie Raskin, you know, he threatened the Civil War.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Back with...
jordan holmes
I recall.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He's up to his old tricks, making threats about if they get back in power, they're going to...
Fuck shit up.
unidentified
Ooh!
alex jones
Massive war developments on every front.
Jamie Raskin making huge new threats about, oh, we're going to get everybody when we get back into power.
We're not going to look kindly on you.
We already know about your persecution.
You're the ones that started it.
We're not persecuting you.
We're retaliating to your tyranny.
dan friesen
So Jamie Raskin was on Pod Save America and was being interviewed and he talked about how countries that are Cooperating with some of these things that Trump's doing, like El Salvador.
Should he not be in power in the future, this is going to reflect very poorly.
The idea that you're taking money to house criminals, or non-criminals.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Eh, I think they'll get over it.
dan friesen
Probably.
But it's a normal thing for someone in Jamie Raskin's position to be saying.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And Alex is trying to say that it's like, once we get back in power, we're going to fuck everybody up.
jordan holmes
Nah, it's a nice little bit of diplomatic saber-rattling.
Like, oh, we're going to get you.
No, we're not.
But we'll...
dan friesen
There will be consequences for enabling this.
jordan holmes
That's what you do.
dan friesen
So, J.D. Vance didn't kill the Pope.
But...
jordan holmes
God, that'd be funny, though.
dan friesen
There's a horrible rumor flying around that he did.
unidentified
Ooh!
dan friesen
And Alex talks about how that's a horrible rumor.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Well, we're entering the 91st day into the 92nd day of the new Trump administration.
Pope Francis died earlier today.
Just shortly after the Easter holiday ended.
Hours after he met with U.S. Vice President J.D. Vance.
That's creating its own baseless rumors.
I don't call it conspiracy theories.
That's a term the CIA on record came out in the Senate Intelligence Committee hearings in the late 70s, the Church Committee hearings.
They couldn't cover up the fact the government killed Kennedy.
So they said anytime we're challenged with real knowledge and facts, don't debate the people spewing facts.
Just call it a conspiracy theory.
The headlines are, conspiracy theorists think J.D. Vance killed the Pope.
No, that's called a baseless rumor.
dan friesen
So what is the attack calling that a conspiracy theory about?
What's that to deflect from?
If the government weaponizes things that are inconvenient for them by calling them conspiracy theories, what are they trying to distract from by calling J.D. Vance killed the Pope a conspiracy theorist?
jordan holmes
That he actually killed the Pope, right?
alex jones
Is it?
unidentified
Maybe.
jordan holmes
That has to be.
That's what he's saying.
dan friesen
Alex is making me think that J.D. Vance killed the Pope.
jordan holmes
Right.
Like, he's coming out to run interference for what is obviously J.D. Vance killing the Pope.
dan friesen
Before I turned on this episode, I thought there was a 0% chance that J.D. Vance killed the Pope.
I didn't even know that it was something that people thought.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
And now I kind of think he might have killed the Pope.
jordan holmes
Okay, I immediately have an entire heist movie written that relies on J.D. Vance killing the Pope.
I mean, I would have to have begun recruiting him back in Harvard, so it's going to be a long movie.
But yeah, I think this works.
I think this works.
Because how else are you going to get the Vatican jewels, man?
dan friesen
How does Hillbilly Elegy play into this?
jordan holmes
Oh, well, because you've got to get people to get him into the vice president's chair, right?
And obviously the only way to do that is with a mediocre book.
dan friesen
So you kind of tried to do that, like, almost sort of Democrat presenting.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Or at least, like, kind of moderate.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And that didn't work, so you flip him over.
Yeah.
Wasn't he in Harvard before Pope Francis was the pope?
jordan holmes
Sure, but, you know, I always knew that Francis was going to be there.
dan friesen
Okay.
Or you could conversely say, like, one pope's as good as any.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's about getting the jewels, right?
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
So you've got to have a dead pope.
dan friesen
It's not about the pope.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
It's about the jewels.
You've got to have a dead pope to get all of the cardinals in there doing their little vote pope.
dan friesen
Conclave.
jordan holmes
Conclave.
Great movie.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Really enjoyed it.
dan friesen
Predictive programming.
jordan holmes
Absolutely!
God, Ralph Fiennes was also Voldemort.
Voldemort killed the Pope.
dan friesen
Right.
Alex can do magic.
jordan holmes
Voldepope.
Yep.
dan friesen
Alex is the boy that lived.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
It all makes sense, man!
The CIA is calling you a conspiracy theorist.
unidentified
You're so right.
dan friesen
Just because you believe that I don't know enough Harry Potter specifics to make more jokes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, don't worry about it.
It's fine.
dan friesen
Owen Troyer?
Ron Weasley?
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Oh, it's kind of red-haired, I guess.
jordan holmes
If Ron Weasley had a dumb beard, that would have made that whole movie a lot better.
dan friesen
Right.
What does that make Chase?
Who's the nerd?
They're all nerds.
jordan holmes
They are all nerds.
They're magic nerds.
dan friesen
So, I don't know.
J.D. Vance killed the Pope.
Who gives a shit?
So, there was a judge in New Mexico that recently resigned.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
And Alex covers this story as very...
He's good at this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Tying together with that New Mexico Democrat judge resigns after ICE arrest alleged Venezuelan gang member of TDA in his home, and we've looked into the guy.
Major, major training at gun ranges with other groups, with the judge making...
TDA hand signs.
It's bad.
And of course, what did I tell you years ago?
And what did the dictator of Venezuela say a few months ago?
He said, listen, we don't want sanctions.
Biden said he'd take the sanctions off of us three and a half years ago if we would send all of our gang members from TDA to the U.S. They work for the CIA, not us.
Which is partially true.
jordan holmes
What a strange deal.
alex jones
That's why Trump's declared them terror groups.
Because the deep state's running them, the Democrats are running them.
dan friesen
Man, you're fucking stupid.
So, this is about a judge named Joel Kano, who recently resigned from the bench and was subsequently ordered never to be allowed to hold that type of office again by the New Mexico Supreme Court.
The trouble started when officers showed up to his home looking to round up a guy who was living in a detached studio apartment that he owned.
In April 2024, this guy did some handyman work for the Kanos, and according to Joel, he presented them with documentation that they were seeking legal status and that they were going through that process, so it was okay to hire them.
At some point, this guy got evicted from the apartment that he was living in, and the Kanos decided to let him live in this studio apartment.
Now, it appears that this guy is a suspected member of Trend de Aragua, the scary name group of 2025.
new ms-13 or isis or al-qaeda whatever you like as far as i can tell this is just an allegation that hasn't been proven and there isn't clear evidence that the judge knew of any potential gang affiliation that this guy had the guy was found to be in possession of some guns but it's also unclear if kano knew about that though he did apparently go to a gun range with the guy at some point uh which i don't know if that's illegal or not I don't know.
jordan holmes
I wonder what an interesting life Kano is leading.
dan friesen
Well, but like, I think, I think that from the evidence and from the things that I've been able to tell, there is a plausible version of this where he's a decent person who had someone he was employing as a handyman.
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
There's a other plausible version of this that is a little bit more nefarious, but I don't see evidence of that.
I see salacious rumor-mongering by folks like Alex.
But I don't see the evidence of that.
jordan holmes
I mean, it tells you where I'm thinking whenever anybody with any amount of power has somebody who just lives in a place.
My first thought was like, oh, did he enslave him?
That's fucked up.
But then it was like, oh, okay, good.
Judges can't enslave people still.
dan friesen
Not quite.
jordan holmes
Good news.
dan friesen
So there's clearly something going on with this, and we don't really have a clear picture about what exactly it is, but there's no reason to automatically assume that the judge has some connection with a gang.
That he was harboring anyone illegally.
As far as I can tell, the guy who was staying at his guest house had guns that he wasn't legally allowed to have.
That's something we can say.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But that shouldn't be a problem for Alex.
jordan holmes
Not for Alex, no.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No one should ever have or not have guns legally.
You should just have guns.
dan friesen
Right.
The right to self-defense and to arm yourself comes from God.
It doesn't come from the government.
jordan holmes
It's inalienable.
dan friesen
Yeah, so if you are someone who's undocumented, you should still be able to have a gun.
The government shouldn't encroach upon that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I guess.
dan friesen
If you're Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if you're Alex.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Oh well.
So reparations become quite a topic for Alex.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This dude's a fucking straight up clown.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
But the idea of reparations is even more cynical than the Democrats pushing the idea of free healthcare, free education.
Oh, we're going to forgive your student loans.
They just dangle that out there as a lie.
You're never going to actually get it.
But I know the administration has been talking about this behind the scenes.
I told you about it six months ago.
Reparations against the NGOs, against the Democratic Party, against the U.N., against companies that have been involved in human trafficking, fentanyl.
And bringing in illegal aliens that have committed rape, murder, crime, arson, you name it.
And I think it is an excellent, excellent idea and needs to be done.
I mean, that's happened a lot in even our current law.
If somebody's got money and they say, kill your daughter or son, well, when they're found guilty, in many cases they get a long prison sentence and a big fine.
And then the money, at least a lot of it, is paid to the victims or their survivors.
That's what we need to see.
And we need to explain this to leftist minions that really think that, oh, if we just had a Bernie Sanders, everything would be equal and you'd have all these free goodies.
That's not the way it works, because if you take other people's wealth to give it to others, other people stop producing because they're not getting their own wealth.
You can take some of people's wealth and redistribute it, but that always brings in more political control.
And it's very, very dangerous, and you see where it gets us today.
dan friesen
Wow, you sound really stupid.
jordan holmes
I think listening to him try and tell me about how money should be given to victims made me want to kick a man in the balls.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That was about as close to being like, wow, let's just kick a man in the balls a bunch.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's the kind of argument that someone makes that you kind of just have to nod and be like, You're getting swung on or I'm walking away.
And I'm going to choose to walk away because this is incredibly stupid.
It's stupid.
It's disrespectful to his own beliefs and to everybody that he's harmed.
Like, honestly, what we have is an advocating of a position where, let's say, an immigrant commits a crime against somebody.
Now, civilly, we can hold responsible, or the government can hold responsible, An advocacy group that protects migrant rights.
If that level of responsibility, that tenuous connection of responsibility is possible, you open the door to just any kind of political destruction of anybody who doesn't agree with your set of beliefs.
jordan holmes
No, it would end the legal system.
It wouldn't even be able to be something that's done because everybody would just be trying to handle all of the cases that are happening everywhere all the time.
dan friesen
It makes for a farce of civil responsibilities.
And Alex knows that.
Alex is the end goal of destroying the...
Judicial system.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and he owes people a billion dollars and has yet to reparations any of that shit, so fuck off.
dan friesen
And based on his own conception of how he's saying that this should work, he...
Then, I think I would respect it a little more if he took on the responsibility of paying these families.
jordan holmes
It would make sense.
dan friesen
Then it would at least not appear that his beliefs are conditional and only work when they're to his advantage.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But as it stands, he just sounds like a fucking idiot.
jordan holmes
I want money from everybody.
dan friesen
Yeah, because I've been wronged.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Cool, man.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
So, he mentioned Venezuela, that deal that Biden made with sanctions earlier.
jordan holmes
It was a really strange deal to, if I understand correctly, import gangs to work for the CIA?
dan friesen
Yeah, and apparently the president of Brazil did it on Venezuela's behalf or something.
jordan holmes
That's strange.
alex jones
You remember the dictator of Venezuela, Lula, a couple months ago.
jordan holmes
That's Brazil.
alex jones
Right when Trump got in, the headline, you want to pull it up with the video, is Venezuela's Lula surrenders to Trump.
There's a Breitbart headline instead on.
And then there's the three-minute video of him.
We've already played it a bunch here.
Won't play it again.
You can just pull it up.
And he says, listen, your FBI has the documents.
We have the documents.
He says TDA did not come from us.
It was set up in the West, and Biden told us he'll take the sanctions off our oil if we send them here.
Well, I already knew that back in the time.
It was unofficial, but that's what's happening.
dan friesen
Alex is mixing up his characters a little bit here.
So Biden didn't say that he would remove sanctions if Venezuela sent their gang members here.
There was an easing of oil sanctions that happened in 2023 that was contingent upon the government and the opposition party agreeing to hold an election in 2024.
This was important because Nicolas Maduro has been in power since 2013, but in 2019, Juan Guaido declared himself the real president of Venezuela, having decided that the 2018 election was illegitimate.
At this point, the country had...
Kind of two presidents, which was a mess.
The U.S. initially recognized Guaido's presidency, mostly because Maduro's an anti-democratic leader and has a lot of connections with Putin and has access to Venezuela's oil.
But when the whole Guaido thing fell apart, the U.S. withdrew its recognition of him as a leader, and it became a priority to negotiate a fair election.
The Biden administration offered to ease oil sanctions as part of Maduro agreeing to a fair election in 2024, which went forward, then Maduro won, and the general consensus was that it was not a fair election after all.
In 2024, in April, Biden reimposed all of the sanctions that were relaxed on Venezuela's gas and oil sector, and this is nonsense, and Alex has written a fun story about it.
But yeah, so, yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
How about that?
dan friesen
Or, conversely, the flip side of it is we ease sanctions in order to convince them to send all the gangs.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Hey, listen.
You know what?
I'm starting to think now.
Stay with me.
Since I've been alive for a long time, I have yet to see sanctions do anything but hurt poor people.
unidentified
So...
jordan holmes
Bummer, I guess.
dan friesen
I think that, yeah, it's an unfortunate reality that it is a tool that should be useful.
But when it's being used against people who rule undemocratically, who rule through oligarch connections and shit like that, it's fairly easy to find workarounds to keep yourself in power while sort of...
Displacing the damage and the pain that those sanctions caused on the people who were lower than you, who were subject to your rule.
And that is unfortunate.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't...
jordan holmes
It kind of makes the sanction part worthless.
dan friesen
It kind of does.
jordan holmes
In fact, it almost seems like if you understand how sanctions work and then you impose them, you're just hurting poor people on purpose.
dan friesen
In a perfect world, a sanction in that shit would be exactly the way you would go about trying to influence better behavior.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But functionally, the world doesn't work like a perfect world.
unidentified
Nah.
dan friesen
And that is unfortunate.
Shit.
So, Alex is probably the most targeted person in the world.
jordan holmes
If I understand correctly, when somebody fucks up, then civilly, they can be held liable for large amounts of money, and then they have to give that money to the victims.
dan friesen
Alex said that earlier.
jordan holmes
Alex said that earlier.
dan friesen
But he's also, like, just the most targeted person.
And he knows that because he talked to Michael Flynn, and Michael Flynn told him.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
alex jones
You heard General Flynn on a few weeks ago, and I was confirming this is another high-level source.
He talked to high-level government people in the NSA tracker computer systems, let's leave it at that, with multiple high-level pings that the deep state, the globalists, working with Ukrainian-connected groups, that's where they cut the money out and snoot over their back, were targeting a large list of key people, including myself and General Flynn.
Talk about himself in the story, but he's a target as well.
That's a large number.
It was over 30. But previously, we're only targeted at a lower level.
This is the highest level below the president.
So we've now been included in a group that was only reserved for the president and his family.
The open bounty on us to the drug cartels.
And I explained back then, I said, these Democrat judges, these Democrat...
Lawmakers, these Democrat mayors, they are literally running these groups as field commanders on the ground.
And they are preparing, when activated, with some social justice excuse, illegal aliens getting killed at a demonstration or something will be the perfect trigger.
They've already hyped up, saying it's imminent with no evidence because they're going to do it.
Then they'll blame a Trump supporter, and then they activate the terror gangs, the...
TDA, the MS-13, the rest of them, the Black Lives Matter, the Antifa, and they burn the country down this summer, which they now admit is their plan.
dan friesen
Summer of rage, incoming.
jordan holmes
Didn't this man put a $1 million bounty on a judge when he was sitting next to his lawyer?
dan friesen
No, I think it was Chris Maddy.
I think he put it on the lawyer in Connecticut.
jordan holmes
My bad.
I always mix up who you put a $1 million bounty on.
You know?
dan friesen
Yeah, I think Alex...
If he has an open target on him, open bounty on him, I think he'd be a little bit...
Go on so many vacations, maybe.
Or maybe his life would be more full of exciting gun battles.
Yeah.
It seems absent from...
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
I always thought...
Here's my thoughts on bounties was that the problem with bounties and why you put them out is because it's hard to find a guy.
The resources necessary to find the guy who's trying to hide...
Too much.
So you put a bounty out, somebody else spends their resources finding the guy.
This guy, I know where he is pretty much all the time.
dan friesen
This level of persecution is extreme.
jordan holmes
I thought it was fictional.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's fictionally extreme.
jordan holmes
It is fictionally extreme.
dan friesen
So I was listening to that clip, and like, you know, the Summer of Rage, obviously.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He's building that up.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And like, we jumped ahead a little bit in time from the last 2025 episode we listened to.
But it's all just the same.
He's saying the same shit.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
Trying to crash the market.
They've had some success.
Not as much as they wanted.
They're trying to heat up and authorize and prepare their groups, but they need something much bigger than George Floyd for the corporate media to hype it and then try to get the general public out rioting some that's the cover to make it look grassroots for the real professional teams that are going to do assassinations of major Trump supporters.
Major terror attacks, knock out the power.
The globalists can knock out the power in areas.
Just claim right-wingers did it.
Because remember, you're not just going to have the communist, globalist, Islamic, drug cartel combined axis of evil strike force.
That's the cover itself for the deep state with its kill switches and power plants, relay systems, computer systems, communication systems, transportation systems.
To hit those to completely tank the market, plunge a lot of the U.S. into darkness, and then say it's Trump's fault.
But they've got to crash the market first successfully, I mean massively.
They won't do this if they're not able to do that.
That's their go point.
They need that first.
Then they'll have right-wingers, staged terror attacks, or say we did.
That is the pretext, the racial attacks on illegal alien protests and things like that, black churches, colleges, you name it.
To then go to full burn the country down, knock the power out, and blame Trump.
And at that point, if Trump's hanging on, the globalists will fly a big drone in with a nuke on it.
They can fly one in and have it detonate a few miles from the White House, and that'll knock out most of the communications and defense systems.
And then another one comes, and they'll have 10 of them lined up with nukes.
However many they need, they plan to get him.
jordan holmes
Sounds easy.
alex jones
It could be at Mar-a-Lago, you name it.
And I'm just laying out probable approximation scenarios for my battle war game system that is my mind that is constantly updating with all the latest information, historical context, sources, analysis, methods.
dan friesen
Oh, you mean your imagination?
jordan holmes
His battle computer mind.
dan friesen
Imagination.
jordan holmes
Well, you could say that.
dan friesen
I mean, like, when Trump won in 2016, Alex said they were going to fly a fucking helicopter into the inauguration.
jordan holmes
They did.
dan friesen
Like, come on.
They're going to fucking 10 nukes.
Ten nukes!
jordan holmes
I feel like...
I feel like I would see so many more assassinations if any part of what Alex says was true on a regular basis.
Like, if you stop and think about how many people there are at any given moment that are worthy of assassination in Alex's world.
dan friesen
Lots.
jordan holmes
The number of people who are out there assassinating, huge.
Like, on a...
Almost weekly basis, somewhere, you should have a headline of, like, fresh assassination, you know?
dan friesen
If Alex's view of the world was, like, even close to accurate, there would be so many bodies in the street.
jordan holmes
There's a lot of countries.
There's a lot of stuff.
There's a lot of ambassadors.
There's a lot of heads of state.
There's a lot of congresses.
There's a lot of people.
Out there with bounties on their head in Alex's world.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And I feel like we rarely, like Trump didn't even get his head blown off.
He just got shot a little bit, you know?
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, they could have nuked him.
jordan holmes
They could have nuked him.
I'll tell you what, wouldn't have missed.
Would have been hard to miss.
dan friesen
There's just this part of me that is like, okay, if it's an option that they're going to drop ten nukes.
jordan holmes
Ten.
That seems like so many.
dan friesen
Why are they waiting?
I'm not saying get on with it.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
But I'm saying that if the end goal of that is stop Trump, then they could have done that at any point.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And avoided all of this intervening time where Trump's done a bunch of really...
Like a bunch of shit they don't like.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I think I'll go a step further.
I'll say that if the end goal is just nuking shit, well then get on with it.
I feel like, what are we doing with the next couple of weeks?
I don't want to pay taxes and shit if I know that in a couple of weeks everybody's going to explode.
dan friesen
I would say that...
I'm not going to say, hey, let's get to nuking already.
That's not my...
jordan holmes
Let's go!
dan friesen
We may have slight differences of opinions there.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
But I feel like they're wasting time.
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
I think the view of the globalists that Alex has, they're deeply wasting time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're just fucking around.
I mean, honestly, this is my taxpayer money going to the wrong things, you know?
dan friesen
So, Trump and his White House, they have signaled that they are more into the lab leak idea for the origins of Hillary.
jordan holmes
Still going, huh?
dan friesen
All right.
And Alex, apparently...
And so Alex spends quite a bit of time...
Being really defensive about this and yelling about how he's not Twitter saying that I cover this up.
I started it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
So yes, the Lister's on X. You bet.
I'll stop covering up the lab leak theory.
It's not a lab leak.
It was not on purpose.
Under the Obama administration, they had it ready to go, and they had the UN saying, soon disease X will come, and we'll use it to take over the world, and they'll prepare you for climate lockdowns, and train you to stay locked in your house, and you'll have six feet distance, and you'll have to wear masks, and that'll be used to create fear in the public, and I told you all of that, and said, you won't be able to go to the ballgames six feet apart, and you'll wear a mask, and then people said, how the hell did he know that?
Because under Operation BioShield 2004, multi-billion dollar funding by Congress, the Bush administration, they put up a public battle plan and sent out millions of packages to churches and other groups preparing to do it in 2006, but they didn't sing six feet apart, wear your mask, can't go to the ball game, got to stay in your house.
So people get the clips of me talking about that, but like 20 seconds, and they get hundreds of millions of views, and they go, how the hell did he know it?
Well, in the full clip, I tell you.
dan friesen
Alex can only look like a prophet in tiny clips that he cuts together, because if his audience actually did go seek out the context of these things that he said, they'll find he's full of shit.
We talked about this specific a while ago, but in case people didn't hear that episode, when Alex said that bit about how you won't be able to go to ballgames anymore, he wasn't talking about a virus being released and how the government won't allow you to go to the ballgame, which you did last night.
jordan holmes
I did.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's the image that he tries to create with his tiny edited clip, that he predicted that and it came true.
In the full original context, Alex is saying that once you accept the truth about his globalist conspiracies, you won't be able to go to the ballgame anymore because you'll be too busy fighting the devil.
Going to the ballgames will become a trivial thing, and the fear of losing your ability to enjoy anything in the world is part of what subconsciously stops you from acknowledging that Alex is right about everything.
You'd rather be asleep and able to go to the ballgame than wake up.
Alex knows that he didn't predict any of this shit, and all of his public image is based on this very strategic distortion of old clips of his show.
He's a Wizard of Oz-ass fraud.
This is such bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's tiring.
jordan holmes
It feels like whenever we'd been doing the internet early on, and people just started hearing about deepfakes and all that stuff, and they were like, ah, but people are going to have so much to be afraid of because of these deepfakes and all this stuff, and it's like, you...
People are still fucked up by editing.
You don't need a deepfake for this shit.
You can just have a lot of clips of something and then cut it down and a lot of people will be convinced anyways.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And even if they're not, Tucker will pretend or act like he is and then try and help persuade people of this bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's crazy.
dan friesen
So they're winning.
jordan holmes
Well.
dan friesen
Alex and his folks, they're winning.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't say they're not.
dan friesen
And so he rants about that a little bit.
And it leads to...
Exactly where you would expect.
alex jones
It's a U.N. global corporate dictatorship plan.
And it failed.
And it caused the Great Awakening.
And we're winning.
And that's why you see all this happening.
But it's important to understand they're going to try it again.
And they're going to try to cause a race war as the cover for their martial law.
And they're trying to crash the market right now.
So the fight ain't over.
The fight just begun.
And because we're halfway awake, we're beating the living shit out of the New World Order.
But if people take stuff for granted and they don't realize how intense this is, we are going to get our asses still handed to us.
You heard Raskin.
Oh, we're coming after everybody that facilitates what's happening.
Oh, we're coming back to power.
We'll be back in what you were.
All right, we're going to break.
I'll hit the Pope.
jordan holmes
It sounded like a demon ground.
alex jones
WF, all of it.
That I'm telling listeners right now.
I need you to realize how important you are.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
alex jones
In the InfoWars.
To take the live feed at Real Alics Jumps.
To take the clips.
To cut it out yourself.
Put them up.
Whatever.
Share on your email list.
Your text message list.
Your friends, your family.
Tell them to share it.
And support the broadcast.
Because I'm not even spending time on what's going on in InfoWars and what's happening.
Bizarreness, all sorts of stuff, trying to shut us down again, but nobody wants to put their name on it.
Nobody wants to...
It's a whole bunch of stuff.
You'll see big news and lawsuits and everything this week.
It's all going down.
We were going to file them a week and a half ago, but more stuff came out, even worse stuff.
It's just, wait, if you think the corruption you've seen in the inside jobs and them trying to shut us down and the Justice Department corruption and all the crap was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet.
We have to keep amending these lawsuits and amending these criminal referrals because...
More, more, more, more.
So, now we're in the main part of the battle right now.
And we need your financial support.
We need your word of mouth.
We need your prayer.
We're in this together.
This is a marathon, not a sprint.
And we're in the lead, but they're right behind us.
And so please, go to the AlexShieldStore.com right now.
With all the stuff going on in the environment, all the toxins and all the crap, you're insane.
If you're not taking Ultimate Iris CMOS and our Ultimate Turmeric Formula.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're nuts.
So yeah, obviously, this is the direction things go.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
We're winning, but if we think we're winning and we take that for granted, then you're not going to buy my CMOS, so buy my CMOS.
Yeah.
Yeah, I want him to sue everybody, I guess.
Just go ahead and do it.
Stop amending these lawsuits.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fucking sue everybody.
Do it.
jordan holmes
You know, I was thinking, you know, a lot of what's going on, a lot of how these things work really is, like, the settlement comes down to a place where everybody just kind of wants to move on with their lives, you know?
Put a button on it, next chapter of my life kind of thing.
But this is Alex's life.
This is Alex's life.
He will never go, oh, I want to move on with my life.
This is it.
I'm in.
I'm in it!
dan friesen
Yeah, I think it's Lenny Bruce, a lot of his performance became wrapped up in his free speech to the detriment of his ability to move on and create as an artist.
And I think that Alex probably has some of that same dynamic.
He's lost.
And he's never going to take the L and just move on into the next phase or whatever.
There isn't another phase.
So he'll pretend that he's going to have these righteous lawsuits that are coming out any time now.
And he's going to be vindicated.
And you just need to give him more money.
And then they'll cross out one person's name and write the other person's name.
That's why it hasn't happened yet.
These lawsuits are coming.
We have to change some names and stuff.
It's all a load of bullshit.
I think it's weak.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's hard not to think, like, there's only one way to really not lose, and that is to die first, you know?
Before the consequences come calling.
dan friesen
As Alex loves to reference, war games don't play the game.
jordan holmes
Or don't play the game.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's the other way not to lose.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Crazy.
dan friesen
So there's a lot of people, like, Alex is winning.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, they're all winning.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And so one of the signs of that that you'll see is that a bunch of these folks are coming over to his side.
You know?
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Folks like Bill Gates' ex-wife talking shit about him.
That's a big win.
jordan holmes
There you go.
An ex-wife not happy with her husband?
dan friesen
But we can't trust these people.
We should celebrate that they're kowtowing.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Yeah, we can't trust them.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
Well, we don't trust Melinda French.
Well, of course we don't.
But the fact that Fredo Cuomo's running from him.
And Bill Maher's running from them.
And Jeff Bezos is running from them.
And Mark Zuckerberg's running from them.
They're running from the Globals.
They're running, they're running, they're running.
Because we're routing them.
But their minions and the Soros groups just still, and the Jamie Raskins, they're not giving up.
There's the Soros-Raskin axis.
And I'm not saying they're the actual kingpins, but they're the guys you know about.
But if the Globalists keep being identified...
The Larry Finks and their owners, the quicker we expose them now, the more so many of their minions will give up, they won't even have their counter-response.
But now we're into their counter-response.
So this is a race, a race to finish them off politically, to destroy them in the public eye.
Don't just destroy Bill Gates.
Don't just destroy Klaus Schwab.
Go after all of their kingpins, all of their mouthpieces.
Politically expose them.
Because their plans are set.
And, oh, they're really dumb they released another virus.
They're really dumb they killed Trump.
It'll make it that much worse for them, but it'll make things destabilize and be horrible for us as well.
So we want them to be smart.
Discretion is a greater part of valor.
And to surrender now.
Publicly come out and endorse the golden age.
Come out and endorse the new renaissance.
Come out and endorse the great awakening.
And then show us, as a high-level globalist, mid-level, low-level, buy good work, and then you save yourself from your boss's own project.
And then I can tell you, we're smart.
We'll leave you alone.
Unless you've committed crimes against kids, you're going to have to fall down some stairs.
It'll be an accident, no big deal.
That's already happening.
And that's the thing of why they're losing so quickly, is I just imagine that gloves have been taken off here and there.
And I see evidence of that.
And that's just a little message.
dan friesen
So all these people that Alex is listing as turning on the globalists and going with Trump are wildly opportunistic people whose allegiances aren't meaningful.
I don't care what Chris Cuomo, Bill Maher, or Mark Zuckerberg think.
They're likely going to go wherever the wind blows and take up whatever positions benefit them the most.
Who gives a shit?
I didn't care about Bill Maher when he was saying things that I liked.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
I abhor people who commit crimes against children, but what Alex is saying in that clip, it should be completely antithetical to his idea of a functioning government.
Alex is saying and celebrating that people who are suspected of committing crimes against children are being killed and that it's being covered up as them falling down some stairs.
It really feels like he should recognize how much power he's bequeathing to the state here.
Not only is he condoning summary executions by law enforcement agents, he's endorsing the practice of covering up those executions because it would be very illegal for law enforcement to operate this way.
I understand that it feels like people who commit crimes against children don't deserve due process, but to advocate for a state that operates that way is very dangerous.
Alex has pretended to be a liberty guy for like the last 30 years, where the defense of the Constitution is the most sacred duty, but you can see in the way that he acts that that was all a facade.
He doesn't care about any of that shit.
His side just knew that their only shot at ever-seizing power was rooted in insisting that the other side was always breaking the rules and that the rules were very important.
The Constitution is essentially a joke to him, and we're the butt of it.
If you think that it's okay for people to be doing summary executions, I think that one of the worst...
Eh, not one of the worst things, but something that I'm opposed to is people who are part of, like...
White separatist, white supremacist groups.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That plan, you know, I don't know, racist outbursts.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Let's say.
That's really bad.
jordan holmes
Problems.
dan friesen
I do not think that if law enforcement, I don't think they should be able to kill the people who organize those groups.
I think that the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers plotted to overthrow the election.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't think that law enforcement should have been able to go to Enrique Tarrio's house and kill him.
I don't think that they should have the ability to do that.
They deserve to have trials.
And Alex is supposed to believe that too.
And he doesn't.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean...
I...
You know, I feel like there's been a lot of political workings around anytime there's something that...
It shakes the whole core of everybody.
I just feel like people are not really where they were before.
Like, for some reason, Alex and his folk are now on the, like, my rich people should win over your rich people tip, which is crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's not, they're monarchists, you know?
They're like, oh, the king, my king is better than your king.
dan friesen
Yeah.
With a veneer of populism, like pretend populism thrown on top.
jordan holmes
Right.
The answer is no kings.
No kings.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
None.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Here we are.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think that one of the things that it becomes really clear to me in the present is how much, like, it hasn't changed that much.
Like, you're saying these people aren't where they were.
They are.
It's just that where they were before was pretend.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
This is not really all that different than how Alex was.
jordan holmes
Sure.
I mean...
dan friesen
It's just that the need to pretend that some rule-based society is important, the need to pretend that is gone.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Well, I mean, you know, until it's back.
And then it'll pretend otherwise.
dan friesen
Right.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What is pretend?
Do you know?
dan friesen
Should Trump ever not be in power, then the Constitution's gonna be very, very important again.
jordan holmes
Super important.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So important.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's opportunistic, and he's full of shit.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, uh, the Pope?
Dead.
jordan holmes
Finally.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, not finally dead, but you know what I'm saying.
dan friesen
He gets to it, talking about it?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
He rants a bit about it, how the Jesuits aren't supposed to be in charge and all this stuff.
jordan holmes
Sure, yeah.
alex jones
He literally helped lead the assault of the Islamic invasion against Europe.
He got the King of England on Easter saying Easter is about Islam and its values.
I'm not kidding.
Pull up.
Just type in King Charles' Easter statement sparks outrage.
I meant to cover that Friday and get to it.
It's like the greatest thing for Easter is the values of Islam.
Nothing about Christ.
Nothing about God.
Nothing about Christianity.
Nothing.
None of the icons.
None of it.
None of it.
Because the globalist system is against Christianity.
Because whether you believe in God or not, the globalist system is at loggerheads against Christian doctrine and ideas.
And against the West itself.
That is the blessing of Christianity.
dan friesen
Alex is just straight up lying about King Charles' Easter message.
Just flat out lying.
jordan holmes
Works for me.
dan friesen
He talks a ton about Christianity and Jesus.
People like Alex just got mad about this part of his comments, that it included this.
Quote, The love Jesus showed when he walked the earth reflected the Jewish ethic of caring for the stranger and those in need.
A deep human instinct echoed in Islam and other religious traditions, and in the heart of all who seek the good in others.
He included that, and that's the basis for this bullshit that Alex is spouting.
Because he said this, Alex is pretending that he didn't even mention Jesus, didn't even mention Christianity.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, I think the irony is...
dan friesen
That's a sin.
jordan holmes
The irony is, still go fuck yourself, King Charles, or whatever it is, because you're only adding that bullshit to make it sound like you're...
Nobody asked you for that shit.
Nobody's like, oh, we need to get a mention of Islam in front of...
Eh, fuck off, you piece of shit.
Fuck the king!
What are we doing here?
dan friesen
I'm never gonna...
Even in the best circumstances, I'm never really gonna go to bat for the king.
King Charles is not a great king.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
He seems like a real...
jordan holmes
Fuck that guy!
dan friesen
Real dick.
But, um...
Yeah, I think that it's a sort of standard magnanimous type Easter message.
And if you're a royal in the present day, I feel like there's probably an obligation that you say something.
So...
jordan holmes
I guess.
dan friesen
He said something.
And because it wasn't Christian extremist enough for Alex, it's become fodder.
jordan holmes
I'm of the opinion that the only thing a royal should say is, I'm sorry and here's all my money.
I'm going to go away now.
dan friesen
What about the guy who was on the traders?
jordan holmes
Gotta go!
Get out of here!
dan friesen
You don't like Ivar?
jordan holmes
Ivar's fine.
Just give all of your money and then go away.
It's very simple.
You know who said something like that?
That old fella Jesus.
dan friesen
Right.
But also, the Pope is being...
Alex is screaming about the Pope, and then he brings up what King Charles said.
Yeah.
It's very much...
My sense of his take on the Pope's death is very much like, I have some complaints about this fucking guy.
I remember that John Paul II was pretty anti-communist.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't like this guy.
jordan holmes
Preferred Nazi Pope, for sure.
dan friesen
I have a lot of friends who are Catholics.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
They're mad about Vatican II.
jordan holmes
For some reason.
dan friesen
But I don't really want to fully commit to that.
But boy do I hope that there's a real conservative Pope next.
So that's kind of where he's at.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
His take on it is very uninteresting.
Crazy.
But, the Pope cursed Europe.
jordan holmes
Oh, now I'm listening.
Now I've got some interesting stuff to say.
dan friesen
And Catholics.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He has brought a curse upon them.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And then Alex leaves.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck.
alex jones
And Europe has been cursed under this pope.
Catholics have been persecuted and cursed.
You know the pope said that Biden don't persecute conservative Catholics.
Don't call them the most dangerous terrorists for no reason with no evidence.
Preposterous.
He would have stopped, but they didn't.
And he let Biden and others continue to get communion and all the rest of it.
That's a blasphemy.
That's a satanic ritual.
Openly supporting partial birth abortion and still getting communion.
That's what the Satanists do when they rent these Catholic churches and others and go do satanic masses there publicly now.
That's blasphemy.
That's what the devil wants.
That's what Satanists love.
They love to get our children God's creation.
They want to hurt God.
They want to hurt children because it hurts Christ.
Now, I want to get into the Oklahoma City bombing total inside job anniversary and recap that.
I have a special guest on coming up.
No one's going to be here as well.
I've got legal stuff I've got to deal with because I've got to certify and sign off on these final lawsuits.
They're going to be huge news against the bad guys.
We'll be back with reports.
But Owen, and the editor of the New American Magazine, so smart, top globalist expert.
Is coming up.
You don't want to miss that information.
But I'm going to say this again.
I don't tell you stuff that isn't true when I can certify it and verify it.
I'll speculate sometimes, and I'm almost always right.
Sometimes I'm wrong.
I'll tell you when I am.
But when I tell you that I'm certain about something, I've never been wrong.
And I'm telling you right now.
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dan friesen
Yeah, so the Pope has cursed Europe.
Yep.
Buy my shit.
I gotta go.
I gotta go.
Owen's gonna take over this Ron Weasley-ass.
I'm gonna go and sign some legal documents that apparently I couldn't sign when the show was over or whatever the fuck.
Cool, man.
jordan holmes
I think you should have to, if you're gonna curse, you should have to tell me what the curse is, right?
Like, I mean, if he's just saying that the Pope has cursed Europe with a general, like, less than positive vibe, that's not really a curse.
If you're the Pope, you've got real curse powers, right?
You have to believe you've got real curse, like you can call down some heavenly curse shit, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, well, I mean, look, if I had to guess what Alex is referring to, it would be that there are a lot of non-white people in countries that Alex thinks are white.
Right.
And there's a lot of immigration, and that's the curse.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And the source of his curse is the Pope giving Biden communion when he supports abortion.
jordan holmes
This is another interesting thing, that he is...
Glossing over there.
Do you want the Pope to be able to influence the President's choices via communion relations?
dan friesen
I think...
jordan holmes
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
When it works to his advantage, yes.
unidentified
Right?
jordan holmes
But you don't want that.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Like, you really don't want that.
dan friesen
Well, you're a dirty papist if you believe the Pope in ways that Alex doesn't like.
jordan holmes
Right.
But, like, you remember when they elected Kennedy?
There was a lot of talk about we can't elect anybody who's Catholic because the Pope will run the country.
dan friesen
Right, right.
There was a lot of talk of that.
And that will be important if there's a Catholic that Alex doesn't like around.
That makes sense.
Yeah, when he can use Catholicism to his advantage, he will.
jordan holmes
That's what you gotta do.
dan friesen
Then the Pope should be influencing the president.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is so fun.
The undercurrent to all of his religious talk, ultimately, with other sects of Christianity is, I want you to be more like me now.
Because we've got bigger fish to fry.
But then later, you're going to be very much not like me, no matter what you do.
dan friesen
You're going to be a fish I'm frying.
jordan holmes
You are fried, my friend.
dan friesen
His relationship with a lot of religious stuff is the same thing that it is with the Constitution.
It would be silly to think otherwise.
It's a conduit through which he wants to exert power.
That's really the...
What's at the bottom of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And when he can, or feels like he can, use the Pope or the Vatican or Catholicism in a way that boosts his power, then he's totally comfortable with it.
But when there's a Pope who's, quote, SJW and woke and all this stuff, then that is, again, counter to his ability to use it to exert his own power.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's, at the end of the day, all that really matters.
Yeah.
Because he's dumb, and he's desperate for power.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's a smart thing to do, you know, in its own way.
Like, the Constitution is very important, yada, yada, yada.
But, you know, then you lose a Supreme Court justice because a guy bluffs, and then it's got to be very important.
And then whenever they get to, they use it for power.
And then it's fun to watch, like, this happen in both directions, you know?
Like, I've just been listening to Democrats be like, Why don't they care about the Constitution my whole life?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
And it doesn't work the other direction.
Nope.
Because Alex's side doesn't care.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
They don't care about the rules.
They want to force the rules on you.
And that doesn't mean that you should break the rules.
It just means insisting that they follow the rules is never going to work.
jordan holmes
It means that there's a different set of rules that everybody's playing by, but you're not.
dan friesen
It should...
Cause some examination of that, at very least.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So this episode's a little bit short, because Alex, as Owen takes over...
jordan holmes
He's gotta go.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's gotta go do some legal stuff.
jordan holmes
I gotta go do some legal stuff.
dan friesen
But we're back to Alex.
Hooray.
Indeed.
Pope's dead.
jordan holmes
Pope's dead.
Sad Pope.
dan friesen
I'm excited to see Alex's in-depth coverage of the selection process of a new Pope, and whatever these lawsuits are that he's going to file on everybody.
So we'll check in on that in the future.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
unidentified
Woo!
Yeah!
Woo!
dan friesen
Yeah!
unidentified
Woo!
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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