#1013: January 30, 2025 dissects Alex Jones’ bizarre praise of Knowledge Fight, his shaky claims about Roger Stone’s 2016 recruitment (despite prior anti-Trump conspiracy rants), and the January 29th Blackhawk crash—blamed on FAA staffing or hacking, though experts ruled Trump’s policies irrelevant. Jones pivots to suppressed post-9/11 aviation threats, ignoring actual evidence, while Stone spins JFK files as CIA cover-ups, contradicting his own past skepticism. Their focus on fringe theories over Trump’s executive orders reveals a pattern of performative activism and exploitation, undermining credibility even as they cling to power associations. [Automatically generated summary]
I suggest we use Dan and Jordan to help inform the selection of our 90s cover band's less popular underground songs from groups like Built to Spill and Failure.
If they mention a song, then we know there's a market for it.
But if I were to have a 90s cover band and you were choosing songs, I think that one of the things you need to do is you need to give people songs that they don't know they want to hear, but they do.
One of these that I would king of wishful thinking is one of them.
Alex is using his normal trick here, pretending that all presidents fire inspectors general because he really needs to convince the audience that it's no big deal to replace all oversight bodies with loyalists and that that isn't a huge red flag.
The IG of the USDA, Phyllis Fong, was fired by Trump's new administration, and she refused to comply with the firing because she didn't believe that it had been done by proper legal channels.
According to the law, she is entirely correct.
You can't just fire IGs on a whim.
If you could, there's basically no reason for them to exist.
Fong wasn't arrested, but she was escorted out of her office.
Interestingly, Fong's office investigated Elon's company, Neuralink, in 2022 over allegations of animal welfare violations in their testing of brain implants.
The company had passed a series of inspections by the USDA, but there were definite concerns about their treatment of animals, so the IG, Ms. Fong, was opening a review of the USDA's review itself.
To be clear, it's very unlikely that Fong was fired in retribution for this.
The USDA has pretty weak enforcement records, and even if Musk was held responsible for mistreating animals in his brain chip research, it would just come down to him paying a fine.
I'm not bringing this up to use as like a reason to explain the firing, but to flesh out how Musk is a person with a ton of conflicts of interest, and he shouldn't be anywhere near decisions relating to government oversight.
Also, Fong is one of the IGs who are suing the government over their termination and will likely succeed in that suit because the law is pretty clear and it was violated.
No, it's like when I was fired by the coupon place, you know?
It was against the law for him to do that, but then the choice at the end of that was either you can take the job back with a giant red X on your back waiting to have the hammer nailed into you, or...
Alex can't fully hold in a laugh while reporting that Trump is going to send people he's deporting to Guantanamo Bay.
Alex is laughing because his career grew out of exploiting one of the darkest pieces of modern U.S. history, the detaining and torture of people at these prisons like Guantanamo.
He's fighting back the laugh because he's come full circle, where now he's the guy justifying rendition and this prison planet that he wants to build in El Salvador.
He's laughing because he knows his audience is too far gone to care how obvious it is that his career has been a farce.
He's the cheerleader for the very people that he made millions warning his listeners were coming.
Trump claimed that he was going to send just the hardened, the most hardened criminal immigrants to Guantanamo Bay, but unsurprisingly, that hasn't been the case.
The folks who have been sent there so far are not even people with criminal records like a lot of them, and many have alleged mistreatment by guards, including beatings, refusal to access to showers, and not letting detainees speak to lawyers.
NPR reported that some of them attempted a hunger strike, and it seems to me that this is a situation that can only get worse.
And it's crystal clear if you know anything about Alex and followed his career anyway, he knows better than to support this.
We have Solomon Rushdie getting a prize for free speech from the Nobel laureates.
We've had Alexander Sholtzenitzen, Gulag Archipelago, decades in a gulag for being anti-communist.
And then he came over here for a while and found out the same thing that Joseph McCarthy found out: that there were globalists in our country who actually created the communism over there.
Communism didn't come from Russia, it came from the UK and the U.S., not bashing our country.
It's just a fact.
And it's made a joke out of the Nobel Prizes now, giving Henry Kissinger and Obama and all these scumbags peace prizes for starting wars.
It's like giving Hitler an ADL award or something.
And they could, though, get their good name back at the Nobel Society of Philanthropy if they did do this.
Elon Musk nominated for Nobel Prize, Peace Prize for Free Speech Advocacy.
Elon Musk has been nominated for the 2025 Nobel Prize for his stance on free speech.
Slovenian member of the European Parliament, Ranco Grimms, put the name forward.
Yeah, so this is a nice benefit to being in the future.
Like, Alex is really trying his best to keep the audience strung along that Trump is about to blow the JFK thing wide open, but it takes 15 days.
Patience, everyone.
Well, we're more than 15 days in the future from this, and these files have not been released.
I don't particularly care if these files are released because most folks who know a lot more about it than me are pretty clear that there's no bombshells waiting to be revealed.
If they release everything, fine.
If it stalls forever, that's not ideal, but fine.
The worst thing possible for Alex is if the files are released and it's a dud.
So that's the outcome he definitely doesn't want.
The good news is that all of this is a game.
So when Trump says that he's going to release stuff then doesn't, it's because of the 15-day holding period.
When that time runs out, if nothing's released, then oh no, the globalists left behind in the government are meddling with the release.
If Trump does release everything and it's a disappointment, oh no, the globalists did the real documents to make Trump look bad.
It doesn't matter what happens.
Reality is going to be bent to conform to the narrative that Alex is invested in pushing.
We've always known this, but I'm not sure I've ever heard Alex say that so clearly.
Roger recruited Alex to the Trump campaign, essentially.
This makes the entire time that Alex was coming to Trump incredibly dishonest.
Behind the scenes, he and Roger were having what amounts to negotiations to get Alex to support Trump while Alex was pretending to cover the primary and the election.
The first time that Alex interviewed Roger is a complete, like, it's a suspicious event in this context.
And Roger getting Trump to come on Alex's show is clearly part of a deal that they struck.
I don't think anybody could have been listening during that 2015 section and hear Alex say this now and not think, oh, wow, that's shady shit that was going on back then.
And I can just tell you that something dramatically changed about him right after the events at Butler, Pennsylvania.
A serenity came over him, a sureness, a strength, a total recognition that his life had been spared by God for a greater purpose.
You know, Nixon was deeply religious, but he would never talk about his religion because as a Quaker, he'd been taught by his mother that this was a private matter.
And Trump was always a believer, but he was never comfortable talking about the Almighty because he didn't think it was a political matter.
The first major challenge to the new Trump administration took place last night over Washington, D.C. At Ronald Reagan International Airport, when a U.S.
Military Blackhawk flew into the flight path of the airport in a landing aircraft that had authorization to land and had control of the Airspace.
And we have the flight logs.
We have the FAA tower reports.
We have it all here.
And they were telling the helicopter that they were in danger and to stop the path they were on.
And right now, it looks like something went on on the helicopter.
We don't know.
But instantly last night, after the Black Hawk collided into the American Airlines flight, 63 people on board, three soldiers on helicopter, no survivors.
This response should be all anyone needs to understand that Alex is a piece of shit and a liar.
He's the king of suspicion.
Everything is a conspiracy until proven not to be.
Or at least that's how things go when there's an advantage in it for him to position himself against the power structure.
Take, for example, all the things that happened when Biden was in office, like the Key Bridge collapse in Baltimore or the hurricanes, Helene, and Milton.
Those were immediately suspicious and likely false flags.
Maybe even weather weapons were being used here.
An accident at a bridge and two natural disasters were reported on in such a way that you could create blame that could be assigned to the Biden administration and the globalists and the government as a whole.
But now Trump is in charge.
They've all made a big deal out of ending DEI practices.
And one of the main areas that the right-wing media has agitated about this in terms of pilots and air traffic controllers, they've gotten their way, and we see a big airline crash in basically the first week of Trump being in office.
In this situation, Alex has two choices.
One option is to say that the deep state did this attack in order to make Trump look bad or something.
The globalists knew that Trump was trying to clean up the FAA, so they did this false flag in order to derail that.
This option helps deflect from Trump having to take any responsibility, but it also introduces some liabilities.
For one, a bunch of people died in the crash, so Alex needs to decide if they were real people or not.
If not, he's in danger of getting into the crisis actor storylines and risking more lawsuits.
But if he does say that they're real, then he needs to accept that Trump is so out of control with his own administration that the remaining deep state folks are murdering civilians in plane crashes, and he can't do anything about it.
There aren't a lot of good outcomes for him down this path, which is why he seems to be taking the second path.
This is the path where he just accepts that the world is complicated, and sometimes bad things happen, and no one planned them to be that way.
It's an explanation that would suffice for the majority of the news that Alex ever covers, but then pretends are false flags, which is why it's strange to hear him use this approach here.
Alex does not want Trump and Musk's power to be questioned.
So his instinct towards suspicion just kind of disappears here.
When it would be an overdrive if Biden was still in office, there would be an elaborate story to be told about this.
Sure, but you don't know if maybe a giant grabbed it with its big hands and then put it off the train and then created a fake little crash scene to hide up their giant's tracks.
See, you can never trust anything.
The world's crazy.
unidentified
There's just no way to know what makes anything happen.
Air travel is, depending on the country, on average, about 20 times safer than automobiles.
Okay.
But it's not as glamorous when people are chewed up and wounded and dead on the highway.
And by glamorous, I mean it's so commonplace that it doesn't get people's attention.
And of course, when you do have an air disaster, it has a much higher rate of fatality because you're moving faster and you're high up in the air generally.
So our hearts go out to all those that died.
But before we knew anything last night, I have the timestamps right here.
The entire corporate media came out and blamed Donald Trump, Elon Musk, and Doge for simply stating the fact that the majority of federal employees rarely ever go to work and do almost nothing.
Unless they're like the Border Patrol who busts their ass.
I've seen it.
That's a hard job.
Customs people, that's a hard job.
So the law enforcement angle works their butt off.
But the bureaucrats, the bureaucracy, I mean, across the board, there's whole studies and governmental and corporate grading of it.
But it's a joke, and we all know that.
And Trump is demanding they come back to work.
And if they won't work or secretly have another job, they're going to be fired, obviously, and probably criminally charged.
He said that last night, and that's true.
So cutting the waste and fraud and abuse out did not cause this.
So I think it's very striking how defensive Alex is about this story, and I think I understand why.
I'm pretty sure that Alex understands a real serious problem.
There's a bunch of them that Trump and Musk's plans are going to cause.
Things like greater incidents of plane crashes, foodborne illness outbreaks, predatory scams being carried out on consumers.
These are some of the fruit of what the government is doing right now.
It's going to end up happening.
Alex believes the ends justify the means here, but he also knows that the means involve common people getting hurt in really bad ways that he can't defend.
He wants what's on the other side of this, but he does not want to take responsibility for the path that leads there.
Well, I mean, just because when they put seatbelts in, people stopped flying through their windshields so much doesn't mean that seatbelts led to people not flying through their windshields.
So as these consequences start happening, he's going to be in a position of minimizing these things, carrying water for and justifying the powers that be, because he believes that doing so furthers the larger good goal, which I guess is colonizing space with white people.
The Associated Press reported that the staffing at the airport on the day of the crash was, quote, not normal, and that one air traffic controller was doing the work of two people.
Complicating matters, Elon Musk had called on the head of the FAA to resign around when Trump was inaugurated.
He did so, but there's no clear replacement.
It might be Chris Rushlow, who's an interim administrator, but Reuters reported on January 30th, the day of this episode of Alex's show, quote, the FAA for 10 days has declined to say who is running the agency on an acting basis.
Michael Whitaker was the previous FAA head who quit when Trump came into office.
That's not that crazy of a thing to happen, and replacing him would have been fine in the changing from one administration to another.
One of the reasons this is messy, though, is because in 2022, the FAA imposed fines on Elon's company, Starlink, for quote, violations of safety protocol.
Musk claimed that the FAA was harassing him, and then he was fined again in 2024 directly by Whitaker for, quote, alleged violations of its government license in two rocket launches, according to The Guardian.
There's no way to know exactly what's going on in people's heads, but these circumstances represent another massive conflict of interest for Musk being anywhere near the levers of power for the government.
He has immense personal interest in making these bodies unable to operate because when they work correctly and in the public interest, he gets fined a ton of money.
Alex understands all this, and his career is supposed to be based on fighting against the unelected bureaucrats who had outsized power in our government.
He spent his whole life yelling about George Soros, and yet here he stands, making his career entirely about defending Elon Musk.
And Alex knows how bad this looks to the point where he's willing to call something a coincidence.
You know, it is one of those things where it's like they're going after that shit.
And the regulations weren't even that tight.
You know, like it's just one of those pieces of evidence of like either go hard against them or you might as well not even have it because they're going to try and the SEC hasn't really affected the stock market in a million years.
And yet they're still going to try and destroy you.
You know, like, it doesn't matter if it's weak capture or strong capture.
Just that you exist at all is a check on their power is what makes them hate you.
You know, it has nothing to do with how much you do against them or not.
But Trump just came out a few minutes ago and a press conference is still ongoing and blames DEI for weakening FAA in aftermath of Reagan national plane crash.
And there's no doubt that's true that DEI and corporate corruption at Boeing and other areas in the studies has really caused the massive increase of problems and bad service and breakdowns and disasters and near collisions, mid-air collisions going way up.
And this idiot FAA official that said we're going to hire schizophrenics.
I mean, seriously.
And people that see pink elephants.
And I remember that broke a few years ago and I said, is that even real?
I have no idea why Alex would be worried about people who see pink elephants flying planes.
He sees demons and he's allowed to do a radio show, which I think is probably infinitely more dangerous to the general population.
Maybe the pink elephants are interdimensional flying assistants that only the really good pilots can see.
Like, who's Alex to judge another person's hallucinations?
That's not cool.
So in the real world, the FAA did not say like they want people with active hallucinations to be able to fly planes.
There's a long-standing problem with the FAA where pilots were afraid to utilize mental health resources that could be available to them because doing so could risk their job.
There was a culture of silence that had grown around mental health issues in the field where if you admitted that you wanted to or were seeking treatment for depression or anxiety, you could risk losing your livelihood.
That created an atmosphere where people were suffering but were afraid to get help.
In 2023, the National Transportation Safety Board held a summit called Navigating Mental Health and Aviation that was meant to explore this dynamic and see what could be done to better serve people's needs.
In response to this conversation, the FAA began to make moves to broaden their rules about mental health treatment.
By making guidelines that better address the actual situation pilots are in, the hope is to destigmatize manageable mental health conditions and get appropriate help for people who are experiencing conditions that would make it actually unsafe for them to fly.
Previously, the system relied on self-reporting by pilots and by reports filed by the aviation medical examiners.
The AME had a list of conditions that they were required to report, which put a person at risk of being grounded.
In 2024, the AME empowered their doctors to rely on their own judgment when it came to a list of conditions, including generalized anxiety disorder, situational anxiety, social anxiety disorder, postpartum depression, situational depression, obsessive-compulsive disorder, PTSD, and some general categories for unspecific anxiety and depression.
This is the real-world version of what Alex wants to attack.
The other end of it is that the FAA doesn't discriminate in hiring based on disability status, and that was clear in their posted materials in sections around DEI.
He's doing those gaggles where he stops with reporters.
I mean, I can't even keep track of it.
And it is exhilarating, but also exhausting.
And then he's got time to watch me and Roger last night and call us up and tell us how much he likes the show and invite us to the White House for dinner soon.
It was already big news when other people called and said, hey, come to Mar-longo.
When do you want to come to the White House?
That was just people in his operation.
I just mentioned it came a big top news story yesterday.
Oh my God, the evil Alex Jones.
And again, I haven't really pushed that or even asked for that stuff because I don't want Alex Jones to be a diversion.
But at the end of the day, from the overall agenda, it's also a litmus test to say, screw you guys.
We're pardoning all the J Sixers.
Screw you guys.
What you did to Alex Jones was made up, exaggerated.
He didn't do anything.
We're not buying into your crap anymore.
Yeah, Don wrote about it, and Drudge took it as the top story.
And it was just my phone was ringing off the hook.
And I'm just like, I guess that elicited Trump to come watch the show and then say he liked it.
And Roger's saying, yeah, I just talked to Trump.
He says the stuff they're declassifying proves the CIA, you know, was involved killing Kennedy.
And then it got millions and millions of views, like 10 million views on the clip from the show.
So the only thing that I think is really actually important about that clip is that Alex said that the night before, Roger was doing this episode with him, and then Adon Salazar wrote about it, and it went on Drudge.
And I mean, I don't even have time to barely eat dinner with my seven-year-old daughter or wife.
I'm eating dinner like once a week with them now.
And they understand.
I barely have time to see my parents.
My dad's been sick.
I still get over there once or twice a week because history's happening now.
I have to do this.
So the left all thinks I'm like somebody that wants to be in the cool club and, ooh, let's all make a big story and put pressure on Trump to stop him from having Alex Jones around.
That'll just make Trump send a jet to get me.
Just in case you don't know.
Okay.
So, so, and I don't even want to make myself the big story.
I could definitely make myself the big story.
I could be hanging out at the White House all day, but that gets in the way of Elon that has moved into the White House, into the Lincoln bedroom, and is running doge out of it, working 20 hours a day at least.
The guy sleeps like two hours a day.
He's not there so he can act powerful.
He already is.
He's there to make sure the mission gets done.
So, no, I don't need to be hanging around the White House distracting people.
I'll continue at my post-attacking.
Now, I'll go up if he really keeps pushing it and have dinner with him.
Ian I and Roger have a private dinner.
That's what he wants to do.
Great.
I'll do that.
But the left doesn't understand.
I want to dominate you and stop you and crush you.
You lying scum that have tried to destroy my country and my family.
That's my mission.
That's the brass ring.
That's the focus.
Nothing else even compares.
And I like eating dinner with my wife and daughter and playing board games.
I like going on hikes with my adult children.
I like going to seeing movies and comedy clubs and eating fine steak dinners.
It's all been put on the side.
Because the war for the future, destiny of humanity is now and we're winning.
And I'm not about to sit on the sidelines and rest on my laurels and think we got this in the bag.
Not until their entire globalist transhumanist death cult's been dismantled.
Alex is super embarrassing, but Trump's hanging out with Musk.
He made RFK the head of HHS, and he recently made dipshit radio host Dan Bongino the deputy director of the FBI.
There's no reason that Trump should think that it would be a negative for him to hang out with Alex.
At the same time, Alex's whole thing about not wanting to be the cool guy hanging out with Trump is complete bullshit.
He would trip over his feet if Trump or Musk offered him an audience with them at any time because the association with power is basically all Alex has left other than a social media account at this point.
Consider the fact that the only reason this conversation is even happening on a public radio show is that Alex needed to brag about how Trump allegedly called him after the show with Roger the night before.
Alex didn't need to reveal that information, but he did it because it made him look like a big boy.
All of this rant is really just Alex's internal struggle between his desperate need to be associated with the other cool kids and his awareness that his brand requires him to be above that kind of vanity and how those two things are deeply at odds with each other.
Within 30 minutes, the corporate media was blaming Trump and Elon Musk and then Hegseth.
Saying they made cuts.
Trump made cuts that haven't even been implemented yet.
Judges are trying to block it, as you know.
It'll get overturned.
Blaming them for this when they didn't even know what had happened.
And now we know they had fully staffed air traffic controllers, the passenger plane, American Airlines, with all the finger skaters, Russian American, coming in, was authorized, doing its job, had control of the airspace.
It was their airspace.
And the tower was saying to the helicopter, you're going to crash.
You're coming into a collision.
And we have the video of their telemetry screens, because they record all that, released within hours.
So it was the helicopter.
We don't know what happened yet, but it had nothing to do with problems at the FAA.
So within 30 minutes of the Sandy Hook shooting, Alex blamed Obama and the gun grabbers.
Within 30 minutes of Hurricane Helene, Alex blamed Biden.
His claim that the media blaming Musk and Trump isn't even true.
But if we pretend that it is, he has no leg to stand on.
He's just doing defensive spin instead of what he usually does, which is attacking spin, smearing his imaginary enemies by exploiting tragedies.
As far as what Trump did or didn't do, part of the problem is that the chaos he's causing makes it very difficult to tell exactly what effects are due to what.
For instance, a few days after getting into office, Trump offered all federal workers the option of a deferred resignation where they could quit and then continue to get paid for about the next nine months.
It's unclear what level of staffing changes that could have caused.
Also, Trump put in place a hiring freeze, which has been challenged by the courts, but it also obviously had some effect.
Reporters who have looked into it aren't sure if the freeze itself applied to air traffic controllers because that's not spelled out.
Add to that the absence of an acknowledged head of the FAA, and you kind of see how this is, you're unable to solve any problems that might come up.
The media wasn't saying that Trump's actions caused the crash.
In fact, here's what PBS said.
Quote, Trump in his first week in office did announce sweeping personnel changes, including a hiring freeze.
But aviation experts said there was little that Trump did that could have precipitated the crash between a commercial jet from Wichita, Kansas, and a military Blackhawk helicopter.
There simply was too little time, less than 10 days after Trump was sworn in, for any of his broadly worded executive orders to have an effect, experts said.
Alex is seeing people on social media blaming Trump for the crash and then just pretending that's what the media is saying.
And that makes a lot of sense.
Alex considers himself to be the media and all he does is scroll through Twitter.
So every other idiot on Twitter is the media to him.
Like journalism doesn't exist as a concept.
He's just getting mad at Twitter and other dipshits on social media.
Like, who knows who any of these people are that he's mad about what they posted?
And for decades, all the Blackhawks, all the commercial aircraft have systems that aren't just autopilot, but can be remotely accessed by the airlines.
And that's in the documents.
Bush talked about it right after 9-11.
They shut up about it real quick.
Well, if you have those systems, somebody can hack into them or they can malfunction.
And a lot of experts, and I've got the articles and reports here, are saying, let's investigate that.
We're not saying that's it.
I'm saying it should be looked at because it makes no sense that just here comes this helicopter.
Let me just fly over one of the most busy airports in the world with a bunch of runways with two different large aircraft coming over their landing lights on.
Let me just fly right in front of that big giant aircraft with huge lights all over it.
When you're in a helicopter, you ever been in a helicopter, folks?
His angle is supposed to be that accidents happen because that's the correct defensive position for Trump and Musk.
But he knows that's boring.
He yearns for the elaborate plot and the boogeyman he needs to be pretending to fight.
Like he can't get out of his own way.
And that's something I think is really interesting about this episode as just sort of a snapshot is like you can almost feel him talking himself into like, can we put some garlic in this?
If it were Biden in office, it would be, no, Biden did this on purpose.
It's a false flag or whatever.
It's very simple.
But he's like, ah, shit, that path on the tree, the logic tree, doesn't work because Trump is in office and he's already taken over all of the globalist infrastructure and all this.
You know, I've said the globalists could hack in, take out the power grid, turn off the energy grid, blame it on Trump.
Once he got in, I said cyber attacks.
I mean, I've been predicting that.
I'm not saying that's what this is, but you don't normally see Blackhawk crews just decide to go on an unscheduled flight through some of the most busy airspace in the world, right over one of the most busy airports in the world with a whole bunch of airplanes coming in for landings.
And you don't get anywhere around those unless you're authorized and already have a plan to be landing there.
And here's some articles and videos from Sikorsky or Lockheed Martin demonstration of their autonomous Blackhawk helicopters in Washington just before the U.S. election.
And then you've got the community notes on there on action people are attacking Musk and Trump.
They explain the Aviation Safety Committee was disbanded, but the committee members working for federal government were not fired from their primary jobs.
They advise the TSA, not FAA, on their security functions, which isn't typically relevant to mid-air collisions, LA Times source.
But still, the corporate media in most places is trying to say that it's all Trump, Elon Doge, Hegset's fault.
Headline, the first big challenge to Hegset, why did this happen?
Well, he better put out why it happened.
They better find out.
But how do you find out when the helicopter's a pile of ashes and the people are dead?
Hmm.
Why this helicopter just take off when Trump's dominating the globalists, dismantling them, and just magically flying the most busy airport ever ride into a passenger plane?
And the corporate media is all ready to blame Trump.
He's introduced too many conspiracy elements to this story and started to incorporate his past predictions, like attacks on the power grid, into the narrative as a whole.
It's gaining momentum, so now it's important to dress things up with the normal suspicious patterns.
Isn't it weird the media all had their script so fast?
It's almost like they knew what was going to happen in advance.
This is a type of reporting Alex does that's based on feelings.
He's creating the feeling that the media all had their story straight in half an hour, and that's suspicious.
The goal of creating that feeling is to give the listener a reason to accept the conspiracy explanation for events that have happened before it's too late for actual explanations to be available to them to have answers to these questions that are now just quote-unquote anomalies.
Alex knows that this is the way that he makes money.
Tragedy happens and he comes up with interesting explanations for why the big, bad, imaginary enemies are totally secretly to blame for it.
And the only way that things will ever get better is if you accept this interpretation and buy his CMOS.
He understands that game and that's why he can't just leave this well enough alone and say that accidents happen.
It would be an act of him robbing himself.
So you can, it's fascinating to me that like it's a perfectly acceptable defense to say accidents happen.
Any other human could lead the show with this is a tragedy.
And what's interesting to me about that is that, like, I perfectly conceive of how this is working on Twitter and racking up views and numbers and stuff like that.
You know, it is like there was a certain amount of creativity back before instantaneous news, you know, where you'd have sports talk radio and they'd really have to spend like an hour discussing something that could be like five minutes long.
Like, oh, yeah, he needs to shoot better.
Boom.
They got to spend an hour.
Ah, his girlfriend, you know, like that whole thing.
But now, you know, there's that like, oh, I don't even need to provide context.
This guy sucks.
Next one.
This guy's, you know, there's just so much constant information that it doesn't require the same creativity that it used to.
And like, you know, for like what you're describing, like back these sports talk shows would be like, we're getting word from trainers that here's a situation with an ankle or whatever.
Last night, you did an emergency broadcast from me that's gotten tens of millions of views.
Thanks to listeners for watching out of the Alex Jones Network studios.
And you were very clear that Trump told you five years ago at the first declassification of 80% and then the new one he signed last week that has 15 days for them to develop the planet or law to release will, quote, seal the fate of the CIA and the deep state that we're still fighting basically the grandkids of, and that Trump said to you, it is just so horrible that he didn't release the first time and then went on CIA involvement.
And I love most of the listeners know you're good friends with Trump and all the rest of it.
And Trump's even made some of those statements public.
They said, what's the source?
It's the president.
But then you got a call and other folks.
And we got, you know, without getting into all that, it's ridiculous for the idea that we would be saying something, you would be saying something when you're a known confidant of Trump and it would be something that we were just making up.
But Roger, recap all the history and then what you're expecting and what you've heard.
This is obviously classified, so you can just give your scalps of it about what is about to come out and why they're so scared.
Back in the late 90s, a law was passed that mandated the release of all the declass and the declassification of all the materials pertaining to JFK's assassination.
The date they set fell early in Donald Trump's first term in 2017.
And I brought it to his attention in a phone conversation.
I said, you know, this is coming up.
What are you going to do?
He wasn't aware of the deadline, but he said he'd check into it.
Then he got back to me and he said, you're right.
This is all set to happen.
What do you think I should do?
And my recommendation was to release it all.
It'd been more than 50 years.
There's nobody involved who is still alive, by and large.
And if elements of the government were involved in the murder of American president, well, the American people should know that.
So he told me he was going to think about it.
And I got the strong impression he's going to release everything.
And then he released about 80% of it.
Now, we found out some very significant things in what he did release.
For example, the KGB had run their own investigation.
They had determined that there was a conspiracy, a plot, and that Lyndon Johnson was the centerpiece of it.
The French intelligence had also run their own investigation, come up with the same conclusion.
But then, ultimately, he released about 80% of it, held back about 20%.
And when I asked him why he did that, he told me that Mike Pompeo, then the head of the CIA, had convinced him that it was too explosive and it would expose the agency's methods and sources.
If I look, maybe I have a Devil May Care kind of streak to me, but if I am in Trump's position, I fuck around, accidentally become president, I find out about the JFK stuff, and I'm willing to tell a dear, dear friend of mine that it's so horrible.
It's interesting that I was in a green room with Geraldo Rivera at Fox.
This was after I wrote my book.
And I told him that I had seen his iconic interview with Madeline Brown, in which she tells him that the night before the assassination, she had an assignation with LBJ in the Fort Worth Hotel.
And I think that there's something to be said for, like, oh, yeah, you know, after you did that interview, she was also on Geraldo or something like that.
But to retell the exact story and refer to it as something that happened in an iconic Geraldo interview.
Well, first of all, we have to pray for all those victims of both aircrafts.
The whole thing is so horrific, just horrific.
In all honesty, today, because of our great show last night, I've been completely immersed in JFK, RFK, and MLK because of the media inquiries that our show last night generated.
So I've read a little bit about this.
My son, as you know, is a very accomplished pilot.
He told me, Dad, something's not right here, but I haven't had a chance to have an extensive conversation with him.
He knows that you've stuck with him through thick and thin.
You've taken some criticism.
I remember when I first went to you, we met during the JFK memorial celebrations, and I said to you, you know what, Donald Trump's going to be president.
And you said, well, you know, Ted Cruz is a Texan.
He's been talking to me.
And I've been thinking about maybe supporting him.
I'm not that political, really.
And I said to Alex, Donald Trump is going to be president.
And you have huge influence with Republican primary voters because of the giant audience of conservatives who watch Infowars.
And if anyone will read my book, The Making of the President 2016, which you can find at stonezone.com.
I feel like there's almost like an ability to cover a thing.
You know?
Sure.
There was the plane crash, and Alex was able to try and struggle with that.
Yeah.
I just, I was looking through like a list of Trump's executive orders and shit, and it's just baffling the amount of stuff that is not being addressed on his show at all.
I think that's something that if he did the level of preparation that he pretends to, he maybe should have come to a conclusion before getting on air about that.