Knowledge Fight’s #1002 episode dissects Alex Jones’ January 21, 2025 rant on Elon Musk’s "Nazi salutes," Trump’s Paris Accords/WHO withdrawal, and his January 6 pardons—mocking Jones’ weak rebuttals ("Roman salutes") and demonic globalist conspiracy theories. They expose his selective outrage (ignoring past "Hitlerian" claims) while critiquing his embrace of extremists like Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio, whose pardon Jones frames as heroic despite Tarrio’s violent history. The episode reveals Jones’ pattern of conflating facts with fringe narratives, ultimately exposing his role as a platform for far-right figures tied by shared legal representation and financial speculation. [Automatically generated summary]
I have to say that I rarely have trouble saying which action is the best of a group of good things.
But today, it's important to ask what is the most important thing he's doing.
Well, in general, it's getting our morale up and then bringing tangible, real things to the morale being up that will actually then have that successfully relaunch the civilization.
But there's so much getting out of the global carbon tax, world government regime, the heart of the new world order, pulling out of the WHO, the J6, complete pardons.
Bunch of scientists, what, six, seven years ago, thousands of them signed a big letter, astrophysicists, you name it, that the sun drives 99 plus percent of our climate.
Of course it does.
We'd be below zero if it wasn't there.
And the UN put out a declaration saying the sun has no effect on climate.
You look that up.
UN issues declaration that the sun has no effect on climate.
I mean, it's like saying we have a declaration that oxygen is not needed for humans.
So you're dealing with savage-level lies.
Like Bill Nye, the science guy, says there are not X and Y chromosomes in his new children's show.
Niels deGrasse Tyson says women are as strong as men.
Next, he'll tell you that leprechauns are real.
So this is a sabotage system sabotaging civilization and logic.
And I know you know that, but we have to say, we know you're a fraud.
We know you're a depopulation weapon system.
Everything you push is to sabotage us.
You're in a death cult.
Paul Ehrlich would go on TV in the 70s, 80s, and 90s.
He's the grand poo-bah of it, all the Club of Rome, and say, we're going to have only images of men as bad in TV.
We're going to destroy the family.
We're going to cut off the resources where you're so poor you can't afford to have kids.
And we're going to dumb people down so they're more easily manageable.
And that's what we do because I'm a liberal and that's how we want to sabotage civilization because humans are bad for the earth.
And then we'd have the liberal talk show host clap and agree.
So, Alex wants his audience to treat the other side as if all of their points are secretly about launching this demonic population depopulation agenda because he knows that's really his only chance of winning an argument.
If you, by default, assume that anyone you disagree with is secretly just trying to advance the devil's grand schemes, you probably won't take any time to consider the veracity of the information they're presenting.
It's just a shortcut to disproving things without disproving anything.
I think our show would be pretty useless if, on episode one, I just said, Alex claims this thing, but I don't care about that claim because he's a racist.
If I'd had that approach, my criticisms would not truly be based on how the things he's saying are bullshit.
They would be attacking the messenger.
And I've tried not to fall into that being the core of what I do.
I attack the messenger plenty now because he's a dipshit, but I try very hard not to say this point is stupid because Alex is the person saying it.
He's stupid and needs a liar, but that doesn't mean that everything he says is a dumb lie.
Alex's show is useless as a source of information because he's training the audience to just assume that anything the enemy is saying is a lie meant to cover up their real position, which is that they want to depopulate the earth on behalf of the devil.
It's cheap and it's not based on anything.
And then beyond that, you just have him rambling about all these things that aren't true.
When his fantasies intersect with reality, where he's supposed to provide the foundation for his shit talk, you end up with erroneous claims like that the UN said the sun has nothing to do with climate or this imagined rant that Paul Ehrlich definitely went on on TV.
If everything is the same thing, all things are interchangeable, and you don't have to read anything because you already know what it's going to say, fine, have fun, but I'm going to treat you as a stupid person as opposed to someone who actually knows the things they're talking about.
Sure.
So there's one thing that Alex is caught on to on the 21st, and that is that people are saying some stuff about Nazis.
Ignore them because the last power the corporate media has with almost no audience is to attack Trump and myself and Elon and everybody else that's fighting them and then have us spend our time responding to the BS they put out.
Like I saw these headlines everywhere and I thought I sent it to you guys.
I say don't respond to it, but when I say respond to it, but explain it's designed to make you respond to it.
Don't just respond to the lie.
Explain why they're doing it so then people get it.
Elon posted it yesterday.
I thought I said it this morning.
I posted it on my ex.
But you've got all these mainstream corporate media, AP, you name it, and they're saying Trump is Hitler-like.
Trump's inaugural address was like Hitler.
And then we all go and debate and say, we're not like Hitler.
Trump's not like Hitler.
No kidding.
No, no, you then go address it and explain that that's all they've got left.
And that if you actually study them in eugenics and depopulation, they're the ones that are actually like Hitler.
So I think that Alex is probably trying to talk about how everyone was criticizing Elon Musk for throwing up two salutes to the audience that looked a lot like Zika's.
I don't really care about arguments about whether or not what Elon did was a Nazi salute because I think it's kind of a distraction.
People like Elon do this type of shit all the time.
And the plausible deniability of it is what allows them to play these sorts of games.
The joke is in the debating whether he meant to do a Nazi salute, when in the real world, his intentions don't even come close to mattering.
He either meant to do the salute as a little symbol or a troll, or he made a sincere mistake and he's the stupidest person in the world.
He did two back-to-back salutes that looked like Nazi salutes at the inauguration of a president who did a racist rally at Madison Square Garden as a way of mirroring the American Bund.
He did these salutes in the middle of a stretch where he's making public statements like only the AFD can save Germany and talking about how Germany needs to give up on its guilt from the past.
What I'm saying is that this is all meant to speak to a certain group, or Elon's revealing that he's a public danger due to how dumb and irresponsible he is with public messaging.
And I think the group he might have been trying to message towards heard him.
Folks like Nick Fuentes were pretty pumped, as were the folks in the more Nazi side of Trump space.
I'm not sure that this is what he was doing, but it would make total sense if Elon did this gesture to excite the bigot side of Trump's audience.
In the past month or so, they've been pretty mad at him about the H-1B visa stuff and him not being a hard no on immigration.
So if he decided that he would throw the bigots a bone by doing this salute at the inauguration rally, I think it would be a pretty good move on his part.
Pretty savvy.
It would neutralize a lot of the heat that he's getting from the extreme end of the base, and there's literally no risk of him being punished by the more moderate part of the audience.
Trump doesn't give a shit.
So if this is something that Musk planned to do in order to placate the Nazis, that makes sense.
Or he's showing his Nazi leanings.
Or he's a complete idiot with no awareness of how he's behaving in public and he shouldn't be allowed to have that kind of platform.
Whatever the case, Alex doesn't seem too worried about it.
Just ignore it, says the tip of the spear.
Don't even engage, says the guy who spent months whining about how Biden doing a speech at night was Hitlerian.
Yeah, I mean, for my money, it's hard not to think in the context of everything I know about this man, he is very desperate for an idiot on the internet to not be mean to him.
Like, so he's willing to go to extreme lengths for everyone that he possibly can get to like him, to like him.
So I would suggest that doing things probably look at who likes him afterwards as to the motive.
So you get the sense from that moment that Alex actually doesn't know what people are talking about, which seems impossible.
Elon throwing up that salute was a major story in the news and on social media.
So I can't imagine that Alex is actually unaware that this was the center of the story.
But maybe he really doesn't know.
That last headline that Alex reads was, quote, Trump's inauguration features neo-Nazis and Hitler's salute from top ally.
That was about Musk's salute, but also about neo-Nazis who were invited.
This is about a guy named Timothy Hale Cusinelli, who got invited for, he got convicted for his actions storming the Capitol on January 6th.
He's a notable January 6th guy because there are pictures of him online with a Hitler mustache, and he's an opium Nazi sympathizer and white supremacist.
His co-workers have said that he believes that the problem with Hitler was that he didn't finish the job.
And the reason this is kind of inconvenient for Alex to work into his rant is because it's not about the Dems or the globalists calling Trump or Elon a Nazi.
It's about Nazis saying, hey, Elon is doing our thing.
The article cites a Nazi meme channel admin from Telegram posting, We are fucking back in response to Musk's gesture.
A Holocaust denier who works for Turning Point USA said, Holy crap, did Elon Musk just hile Hitler at the Trump inauguration rally in Washington, D.C.?
That's incredible.
We're so back.
Alex is getting mad and frustrated because he didn't actually prepare before going on air.
And these headlines don't quite work for what he was imagining that he'd be covering.
It's actually revealing a shocking level of unawareness that he must have had when he got on air.
Also, by descending into this, what about Hulk Hogan and it was a Roman salute type defense, isn't Alex doing exactly what he said not to do?
Aren't you supposed to just ignore this stuff?
This seems like him not following his own advice because he didn't know what he was talking about.
I think, I think I somewhat agree with you, but I also know enough of like seeing these types of responses over the years that the Roman salute thing is a pretty knee-jerk.
So the premise of this show was going to be that Alex was going to take calls.
But I think having this Elon Musk Nazi salute thing thrown into his lap and him seeming to be unprepared for it has led to him like, I'm not taking calls.
I'm not going to take calls now because I've got a lot of material and a lot of news to cover.
And I just got more philosophical and 35,000-foot view here.
And there's just too much news and too much that has to be dealt with.
And I need to go over these executive orders.
I need to go over his congressional policies.
I need to go over what the left's planning.
And I need to get into the international news, the military news, and the other big ways that they are now coming after Trump and coming after his supporters and trying to rebrand things that, oh, there wasn't an elite before, or there was, they cared about you.
But now that Trump and the populist movement is taking over all over the world, and a lot of powerful people are joining us because they can see which way the wind's blowing, the corporate dying media is now trying to become the resistance and say, oh, there is an elite that wants to enslave you, and it's Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
These headlines are everywhere.
American oligarchy is officially here.
And then look who the American oligarchy is: it's Trump, Musk, and Zuckerberg.
Zuckerberg capitulated because he knew he'd failed and his globalist bosses had been defeated.
So he's just a follower.
But Musk openly is opposing the actual globalist agenda and helped take Trump over the top and is the real deal.
Nothing Alex says there in any way refutes the argument that Trump is ushering in an oligarchy.
Alex is just being defensive about how it's kind of undisputable based on the actions that are being taken.
It's fair enough to have criticisms about the corporate media, but Alex should really be forced to reflect on what he's saying.
Elon Musk is a billionaire with international business interests and a ton of reliance on government subsidies and contracts that he needs in order to stay a billionaire.
In advance of the election, Musk bought Twitter and brought back to the platform a ton of people who specialized in spreading misinformation and also Nazi stuff.
He fundamentally altered fact-checking processes and moderation practices in a way that favored people who were aggressive liars.
He created a system where people could make money off tweeting if they got large enough audiences and engagement, which gave a financial incentive for people to post sensational content regardless of whether it was true or not.
Musk created a public information space that was as if it had been intentionally polluted, so it wouldn't really be of any use for the public.
And then he gave Trump millions of dollars for the election campaign and started doing raffles where people could win a million dollars for registering to vote, all while he gave speeches about how Trump needed to win or else the world would end.
Alex calls all of this Musk, quote, putting Trump over the top.
And that's fair enough.
Elon Musk meddled in the election in a way that he was only able to do because he's a billionaire, and he only did it because he knew that that's the best way for him to protect the money was to get Trump into office.
In return for Trump putting him over the top putting him over the top, he got rewarded with a fake government efficiency office where he'll use that power to advance his oligarchical interests.
And then he got to speak at the Trump inauguration rally where he threw up a couple Nazi salutes and he's going to face no consequences for it.
I understand that hypocrisy doesn't mean anything and dipshits like Alex have no concern for it, but I lay this out to stress exactly what it is that Alex is hand-waving.
If this series of actions took place but involved Biden, Alex would have very serious problems with how a billionaire was allowed to sway the election so brazenly like this.
His principles mean nothing.
So when you see him making arguments that appeal to things that kind of make sense, it's important to remember that he's just pretending to care about things that make sense to you in order to exploit your rationality.
It is tough to square, you know, screaming for 30 years about how we're going to get a dictator and then install a dictator.
It's weird to scream for 30 years about how a small group of global elites have complete control over the population and they want to reduce it while at the same time ushering in an era of small group of billionaires having complete control over the government and then using it to, I guess, remove a lot of people from the country.
It does feel weird.
Although I wonder if what we should conclude is that if you yell for 30 years about how your other people are doing something, you are guaranteeing that your people will do that thing.
Yeah, I think that something that Alex does illustrate is this kind of career of like this shit talking idiot, wrong about stuff, making things up all the time, entertainment disaster kind of guy.
I think that what he pretends to be against is often kind of baked into what he believes.
It is a grassroots movement of for and by the people for a pro-human, pro-expansionist plan instead of the globalist post-human plan.
And that's the fork in the road that Elon Musk was just talking about.
And we have now taken the right fork.
So it's just insane.
And by the way, I didn't properly address the Elon Musk Nazi salute because it's so ridiculous.
I'm going to show you a bunch of videos of Democrats doing it, everybody else, and Hulk Hogan doing it, and Arnold Schwarzenegger, who actually was a Nazi, but the point is, is that, again, a Nazi salute is if you slam your hand into your chest and then say Hil Hitler at the end of it.
So that's a super convenient way for Alex to set the parameters for what can or can't be called a Hitler salute.
Also, a real shitty list of people he stammered together.
He thinks Arnold Schwarzenegger is actually a Nazi, so that example doesn't work.
Hulk Hogan famously was caught on camera saying the N-word a bunch and then talking about how his adult daughter can't date black dudes.
He came up with two people, one of whom he believes to be a Nazi, and the other is a publicly known racist who is a speaker at the Trump RNC.
Alex makes a stupid point, but even if he weren't, he made that point poorly.
If your rebuttal to someone saying that what Musk did looked similar to a Nazi salute is that other people have done non-Nazi salute gestures that looked similar to what Musk did, then a full refutation of your argument is just to provide examples of people doing explicit Nazi salutes that look similar to what Musk did.
There's no value to the evidence Alex is trying to present in terms of making the argument that he wants to make.
But I guess if you need to say Heil Hitler for a Nazi salute to be a Nazi salute, then it wasn't a Nazi salute when Richard Spencer was zigheiling and saying, Hail Trump.
I guess the folks at the Unite the Right rally weren't actually doing Nazi salutes because they were saying things like, Jews will not replace us.
Alex should probably take his own advice and not even respond to this because his response has done nothing to make me think that Musk wasn't doing a Nazi salute.
It has, however, made me pretty convinced that Alex is worried that people might think that Musk was.
All right, I've got quite a job to do here in this second hour.
I want to go through many of the amazing executive actions of President Trump, over 200 executive orders and executive actions.
Yesterday, obviously, the pardoning is good.
The people are innocent.
They were set up.
It's meant to frame Trump and America as a bunch of terrorists.
It's important to take that narrative and destroy it.
And it's good to just not give a damn what the left says and stop making decisions according to not being criticized by them or doing things so you think it makes you look morally superior when you're buying into their lies.
That's important.
But this to the economy and the world is massive.
There's different numbers and actuaries and studies out there, and really Lord Moncton's excellent breaking those down on air.
But if they had the net zero plans actually followed through on by 2030, and now they've adjusted it out of 2035 because people aren't going along with it, so they don't ever give up.
They just keep moving the goalpost.
You're talking about billions of people starving to death.
You cut the energy off here, people just get poor.
You cut the energy off in the third world, they die.
And then the survivors fly here, too.
He organizes them and does that.
So Trump issues sweeping pardon of the J Sixers.
That's great.
But the big news is Trump orders U.S. exit from the World Health Organization.
It really feels like Alex is just winging this, and he hasn't really even looked at the information he's jumping into covering all these non-prop pieces of paper on the desk.
He put off actually talking about the executive orders for the first hour, but now it's time to strap in, and it's just rambling.
He's manifesting a lot of defensiveness about the January 6th pardons because there are some people who say that it would be a good idea to pardon people selectively.
Like go case by case through it and be like, hey, you were just part of the mob.
We can pardon you.
But you got to keep some of the more dangerous people who acted violently with clear premeditation.
You got to keep them in jail.
Alex is opposed to that and favors sweeping pardons for everyone because all of the people he likes are the ones who acted violently and with clear premeditation.
But then he starts rambling about cutting off the energy and Lord Moncton, pivoting into covering an article.
But the headline is about Trump taking the U.S. out of the World Health Organization.
Between this kind of shit and him seemingly being on the back foot about Musk throwing up that salute, this is a real special level of him seeming to be unprepared for the show.
But as I mentioned it, Trump signs order directing U.S. withdrawal from the Paris Climate Agreement.
And again, that's where Europe, the U.K., Australia, New Zealand, the U.S., and Canada get rid of our fossil fuels and have a bridge to nowhere with supposedly nuclear and wind and solar.
And then we're all supposed to drive electric cars that are built in China or Mexico or India or South Korea.
And then you were supposed to charge those cars up with wind farm electricity.
And then in all the numbers, it doesn't even give you 10% of what you need.
Put windmills up everywhere.
It wouldn't do it.
So again, they want to get rid of cars.
They want to get rid of private cars.
They want a post-industrial world.
They want to get rid of your gas range stove and everything else.
That's the UN Global Treaty, agenda 2030.
But they don't just say, oh, we're going to take your cars.
I mean, they admit that in the fine print.
And, you know, banning all fossil fuel-powered cars by 2030.
And those orders have been signed, the sale of them.
And then countries that are further along, like Germany, are saying, oh, soon we'll ban you even owning one.
And banning the sale of RVs.
Seven states passed that last year.
BlackRock lobbied for it.
They don't want you and they're gouging real estate and inflation to actually be able to survive and live in a mobile home.
Pretty good living, actually.
Things are pretty nice.
And you can move around and stay different places and see people.
Oh, nope.
Sorry, you can't have that.
It's bad.
It's about destroying your lifestyle, killing your mobility, and locking you down in a 15-minute city.
So, including in his executive actions, Trump withdrew the U.S. from the Paris Accords, which he did in his first term, too, a move that was reversed by Biden when he got into office.
Pretty much the entire world is on board with these climate accords, partially because they aren't very strict.
It sets goals and ambitions, but there's no mechanism to enforce anything.
So it's actually kind of a, it's the least we can do situation.
If you're a climate change denier, it's actually probably in your best interest for the Paris Accords to be in place because governments and corporate interests can point to it and say, we're doing the best we can in response to activists pushing for tighter and more serious climate action.
Alex doesn't know anything about this subject and is just kind of saying whatever comes into his mind.
For instance, this thing about RVs being banned in seven states is just made up.
Claiming that BlackRock wants to ban RVs is something he's crafted out of various memes he's seen and dumb thoughts he's had and a way to create a fun story about BlackRock wants you to not be able to afford your mortgage, so they also don't want you to have RVs.
I like the idea of because it's a lot easier to be like, oh, BlackRock wants to ban RVs.
Because then you create a fictional building.
You don't go like, oh, there was a meeting where six billionaires got into a room and some dude had a PowerPoint presentation that was like, aha, fellas, here's how we do it.
Trump's orders, U.S. withdrawal from Paris climate, revokes Biden climate actions.
And there were a whole bunch of those, as you know.
But I'm hearing from all the Republicans: okay, we won't close the remaining coal power plants now.
Turn them back on.
Trump's plan, and he can do it, is to cut energy prices by 50% within one year of being in office.
And you don't just drill, baby, drill to do that.
Yeah, that will cut the cost of the gas tank.
But you need coal to drive down electricity prices to make us competitive with Mexico and with China and others.
And you go down to the Mexican-Texas border and you fly around in a helicopter like we've done a show in the Illegal Alien UN migrant bases, and you look off a few miles over the border and you just see coal plants everywhere in factories.
And you see the brown smog because they don't run scrubbers in Mexico.
They got a turbine that turns in boiled water, hydroelectric, and they just dump black smoke into the air that is very bad when you're burning dirty coal.
The U.S. has the largest deposits in the world of clean burning coal and enough to run for over a thousand years at current rates.
It's estimated if you burn the dirty coal, 10,000.
So scrubbers and coal power plants are there to remove things from the gases that are emitted when you burn the coal.
And in terms of like sulfur dioxide, they do a pretty good job of that.
You can't get those emissions down to nothing, but you can cut them pretty far down.
And most of them work by spraying something like limestone slurry into the area where the gas is emitted, where the calcium in the limestone reacts with the sulfur dioxide to combine into a neutral substance.
I believe when he thinks about the scrubbers, he sees a cartoon, like conveyor belt with chunks of black coal and mechanical arms with scrubber brushes scrubbing it off.
I believe it too, but I believe it's slightly different.
The image is different in my mind.
It's the same thing, except instead of arms coming down, the conveyor belt stops, and it's Alex sitting in a bathtub with a little rubber duck in there, and he takes the coal and he's scrubbing up.
On the subject of Bill Gates, just before the inauguration, he went around making nice with Trump.
He told the Wall Street Journal about a dinner he had with Trump, saying, I was frankly impressed with how well he showed a lot of interest in the issues I brought up.
He does a lot of philanthropic work, and there's a large upside to a lot of that stuff, and some criticisms, too.
But he's still part of the mega-rich class, and his behaviors will generally tend to follow that.
Like, his whole idea is I'm going to have a legacy where I saved people's lives despite being a billionaire and murdering everybody and doing all this horrible shit.
Instead, he's got to look people in the face and say shit like this.
So getting out of the World Health Organization is just stupid, and it's likely going to lead to increased difficulty handling all kinds of public health issues.
It seems like if the complaint is that the group is too political, you'd want to stay in it so you can exert your own political will in that arena.
The WHO is going to continue to exist with or without the United States.
And now Trump has just removed us from the body where collaborative decisions happen.
It seems like shooting yourself in the foot so you don't have to spend money on global health issues that affect everyone.
I've seen different numbers, but on average, federal workers show up about two or three days a month, and they say they work from home and they have these devices.
I don't, I can't imagine anybody on the side of the worker who's like, man, they really should force you to go into the office whenever it is exactly as the same.
And so for most people and most jobs, there's a lot of screwing around going on.
And people just try to figure out a way to act like they're working.
I mean, the examples are out there where you have government construction crews will take 20 years to build something when a private company can do it in two.
And in Texas, they really privatize most of it now, and they can build stuff way quicker than when it was the Texas Highway Department doing it.
And it's just like NASA couldn't even build a Saturn rocket anymore.
That's a Werner von Braun design from the 60s that they put up.
And then here comes Elon, and just more space exploration, acceleration, innovation in a decade than all other space exploration before, government or private, because he sets aggressive goals.
And that's how you get stuff done.
Things either happen really quick or they don't happen at all.
But Alex is a stupid rich person who should know better.
That's true.
So he gets into just reading off all of these executive orders and play a little bit of this just because this is the level of shit we're dealing with.
I mean, even just hearing like taking care of the cost of living crisis is like, wait, does that mean lowering it or does that mean like making sure it feels nice about itself?
Giving it a good day, you know, taking the cost of living crisis to a massage pilot.
But what if I were to tell you that this was actually about an OECD plan for global minimum tax, which would only apply to multinational companies that take in more than 750 million euros a year?
What if I were to tell you that this was just about making a rule that such companies would be subject to a 15% minimum effective tax rate, which has the effect of disincentivizing businesses who leave their countries in order to operate in places that have low or no taxes?
We ought to go back and just get footage from yesterday during the swearing in and during the ceremony.
And I mean, you look at the faces of Obama and Hillary and Bill Clinton.
And Hillary looks like she's been taxidermied.
Obama looks like he's crapping his pants.
But Bill Clinton, who's looked like a corpse for years and still looks like he's starring in Day of the Dead, but animated-wise, was laughing and smiling and turning red and getting off on it.
Very, very cool, you sharing lawyers with these guys.
That's not suspicious or shady, especially considering that it's Norm.
Great.
But yeah, so he's going to have Enrique Tario on.
And I thought that was predictable and kind of funny.
But more funny was that I hadn't thought about for a while the fact that he used to hang out with people who jumped you into a gang until you named cereals.
So, Tario, he has this to say about, I think he stops just short at the end of this clip of saying, I owe Trump my life, which I think is kind of what he's saying.
Now, the issue that I have is I get that the games that everyone's going to play with these folks, like Alex and all of them, they're going to, you know, sort of re-solidify their narrative that these guys were innocent and they were all set up and all this and Ray Epps, blah, blah, blah.
I don't know how you do it, but it sounds all right to me.
I just, I can't, I can't imagine how you can't look at this and be like, yeah, you guys all know.
You know, and you're going to behave based on what you know, not based on what you're pretending to believe in public.
This is real fucked up.
I think that there is a PR and whatever kind of thing that Trump could have done when he came into office with like, yeah, the guy who shit on Nancy Pelosi's desk, you're pardoned.
The guy who stole the lectern, you're pardoned.
You know, like this, all this stuff, you know, it could be like, you're not going to learn anything from going to prison and you're not really a danger to society.
I'm going to give a blanket pardon to all of these people.
Sure.
But still keep Enrique Tario, Stuart Rhodes, the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers.
Those people should not have gotten pardons because exactly what you're saying is too obvious through that action.
I've I've honestly, like, the only people that I can see it being a purely rational choice to be like, I hope Trump becomes president, that's those guys.
And they know where their bread is buttered, and they know that they have the president and the government's blessing to go beat up people at liberal protests and stuff.
Well, they actually pulled me out of my cell at 4 o'clock yesterday Central Standard Time, and they told me, that's it, pack your stuff, you're leaving.
They put me in a holding cell, and right when they were about to release me, they told me, wait, we have to wait because the verbiage on the pardon might exclude you because the way that the pardon was written, it was for people who were at the Capitol.
So since I wasn't at the Capitol that day, I wasn't even in the district that day, the warden just wanted to make sure that my name was on the list.
So they put me back to my unit where I sat and I waited up until this morning.
Yeah, so there's almost a part of me that feels like what he's actually telling Tario to do is be sure you go to these protests and cause some trouble.
We need to make sure that We cross our T's and dot our eyes, you know, and not fall for any traps.
You know, I really, I really think that we need to be looking at, you know, a lot of these people that rile up crowds and really take a look at who they are and what's going on.
For those that don't know, Merrick Garland put quite a few Trump officials, including Steve Bannon, in prison for contempt of Congress, refusing to testify, even though they were part of the administration.
Clear executive immunity, meaning that they do not testify on matters of that, because that would violate the separation of powers and allow congressional wish hunts.
And so he, though, said, well, I'm the attorney general, so I'm allowed to.
And that's a great point, that that would be a good start to put Merrick Garland in prison.
So Alex is full of shit, but let's just imagine that all of that description that he gave is accurate.
Even if you stipulate all of that, then he shouldn't believe that Garland should be prosecuted.
He believes that Trump administration officials shouldn't have gotten in trouble for not answering a subpoena, and because they did, he believes that his side is entitled to do things that he believes to be unconstitutional and bad.
Hearing him discuss these kinds of dynamics should make it clear to anyone that he doesn't care about whether or not something is unconstitutional or bad.
This is about making an excuse to do shit in retribution that Alex couldn't justify otherwise.
Because if he believes that Steve Bannon was unjustly prosecuted, the answer isn't unjustly prosecute someone else.
That's not appropriate.
If your concerns are based in the appropriate carrying out of the law, it's either both or none for Alex.
Also, I think it's kind of a little bit sad just from the, like, hey, I run this organization where we go beat people up and we have fun and we drink and we talk about cereals and have fun nicknames for each other.
I think it's really sad when you get pardoned because then it's like, I have the approval of the state.
Because now basically you have the impression, or you should, if you're Enrique Tario or Stuart Rhodes, you should have the impression that basically you're the military or the cops without the rules.
You know, we had the Proud Boys, for people that don't know, founded because, well, it was already founded, kind of just have fun by, you know, cereal lovers.
Kevin McGinnis, but got serious when Antifa in Portland, in Seattle, in other areas, was just going up and beating up any type of Christian barbecue or any type of conservative.
And that is that we could be looking at a situation where Joe Biggs gets out of prison and he returns to the sort of second in command position of the Proud Boys.
So you have an InfoWars employee who is a second in command of a street gang.
You have Stuart Rhodes coming out, and if he comes back in charge of the Oath Keepers, then you have a fucking right-wing extremist militia that is headed up by someone else who's super close to Alex.