Knowledge Fight dissects Alex Jones’ January 20, 2025 (likely 2021) misfires, where he pivots from praising Trump’s "great reset" reversal to pushing false flag migrant violence claims after a Vermont shooting. Jones’ selective constitutional critiques and misattributed quotes—like Lincoln’s mob speech—expose opportunism over principle, while Chase Geiser blindly embraces Trump’s "Pax Trumpana" fantasy. The episode mocks Trump’s TikTok extortion, profit-driven Gaza remarks, and pardons normalizing January 6th extremists, revealing a pattern of performative defiance and financial exploitation of crises. Jones’ credibility crumbles as his audience clings to outdated conspiracies, leaving his "information war" hollow. [Automatically generated summary]
My point is that of all the countries of people who have sent in button requests, I would say that Australia seems like they are the people who most think...
Next, this is Matt in Ireland who would like all Knowledge Fight listeners to know that his brother Scott in Richmond can in fact paddle the lower James.
I mean, the stuff he said in his second inaugural speech, that was extremely powerful.
On so many fronts.
He hit every point, though I wish the speech was only 40 minutes.
It could have been a lot longer.
But he did an excellent job.
And he means to do everything he said, so the policy was just excellent.
And then he did that off-the-cuff, more hardcore, hour-long talk to another area in the Capitol, to supporters.
And then now, he did that totally impromptu.
He heard there was an area with overflow.
People were watching a lot of his new Incoming staff, but also just fans.
And now he's at the scheduled victory parade.
And reportedly, this is going to be big meat and potatoes.
On the 200 executive orders that we still don't have all the details on.
We've gotten some of what he's going to do.
Very smart to declare a national emergency.
It is an emergency that is all borders and the great reset that we're fighting to totally reverse.
And repair.
But the way the laws have worked, he isn't able to even get what he wants done statutorily to override previous president's emergencies unless he declares his.
So this relationship with declaring emergencies in order to seize power cannot possibly fit with the image that Alex has presented for the rest of his career.
He's up here on his show acting like it's just how business is done.
All leaders need to declare emergencies or else they can't do anything because of the previous emergencies that past presidents have declared.
You need to declare emergencies and any president who doesn't operate that way would be an idiot not to.
But that's not what Alex believes, at least if you judge by his public positions that he's expressed over the past 30 years.
In Infowars world, the emergencies, they're declared so presidents can unilaterally do crazy shit they couldn't get away with otherwise.
It's about subverting the Constitution in order to exert power they don't rightly have outside of the context of that emergency.
I understand that the way Alex is trying to frame this goes like this.
The globalists have set up a bunch of really evil stuff that restricts Trump from being able to enact his plan.
So the only way that Trump can do what he needs to do to free America from this really evil stuff is by declaring an emergency, at which point he can act as a dictator and get rid of all that really evil stuff.
If he didn't do the dictator move, he would run into problems trying to get rid of all the really evil stuff, because the globalists have built in resistance to getting rid of really evil stuff in the bureaucracy of the government and all the checks and balances.
He has to take on unilateral dictator-type power in order to save representative democracy.
It's kind of like what happens in the Star Wars prequels.
I get that that's what he's promoting, but it's very stupid, and I don't think that Alex himself could actually believe that.
I don't believe it.
He obviously knows he's just supporting a guy seizing unconstitutional levels of power because the way he's exerting that power is in line with the white identity-based world that Alex wants to live in.
It's just a bad strategy, though, because when you sign off on someone acting like this, you really need to hope that the other side never comes back into power.
If Trump has seized all this authority because of an emergency he declared, it seems like a...
Kind of silly to oppose the next president declaring an emergency to seize their own power.
And if Trump can declare this emergency and then sign an executive order attempting to ban birthright citizenship, then why would you ever have a problem with the next president signing an executive order banning gun ownership?
The 14th Amendment very clearly says, quote, all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.
On this evening of January 20th, Trump released an executive order titled, quote, Protecting the Meaning and Value of American Citizenship that says, quote, The 14th Amendment has never been interpreted to extend citizenship universally to everyone born within the United States.
If the president is able to make interpretive decisions about the Constitution, certainly it's fair game to say the Second Amendment doesn't guarantee a citizen's right to own guns.
Trump gets to do this kind of stuff because Alex really never cared about a president using an emergency to justify unconstitutional actions.
He just didn't want them doing stuff he doesn't like that way.
And he supports them doing stuff he's into however it happens.
The principles around this stuff are just a charade.
I think there are just sort of tricks that he's learned over time, and shit's gotten more and more desperate for him in terms of trying to keep things interesting.
So this is a pretty good illustration of Alex's relationship with principles.
He has a fundamental belief in the Constitution, and it's so important to follow that holy government document.
It's been everything to him.
Everything in his career has been about defending that, because the globalists need to undermine the Constitution in order to enslave humanity on behalf of the devil.
But now, he's a fully dedicated Trump supporter, and Trump has clearly indicated he has no respect for the Constitution, and he will undermine it however he can in order to achieve the political and financial goals he's seeking.
And that should be a problem for Alex.
The undermining of the Constitution is the actual problem, not just that the globalists want to use that undermining to enslave or kill off humanity.
The act of undermining the Constitution is an actual problem, because the globalists would never do that unless their goal was to enslave or kill off humanity.
Because this formulation is super clear in Alex's content, Alex now needs to come up with conditional reasons why it's sometimes okay to undermine the Constitution.
It's okay when there's a real emergency, like unhealthy children, to address.
It's okay when declaring emergencies and seizing unconstitutional power is the only way to achieve the goal that you're seeking.
If any of that is true, then there's no reason to pretend you have a constitution-based problem with the president unilaterally establishing a single-payer health care system.
There's no constitution-based issue with the president restricting access to guns, which are a leading cause of death for children aged 1 to 19 in the United States.
Alex can disagree with the goal, but he can't possibly have a problem with the method.
I'm harping on this a little bit, and the reason is because Alex's career is unique among the classic right-wing pundits.
It's come out a little more religiously based in recent years, but even earlier on, he pretended to transcend partisan disagreements, and so he needed to find ways to elevate what he thought his points were and how they were being delivered.
If he really just believed that guns were cool and people should have them, he couldn't just make that his point.
That's what everyone else was doing, and he wouldn't stand out.
He needed to set himself apart from the rest by pretending to report to the audience on the decades-long plot to surreptitiously subvert the Constitution through executive orders and emergency declarations meant to take your guns away from you.
People rightly label him a conspiracy theorist, and how that comes out a lot of the time is in him discussing the methods he believes his enemies are using.
His positions often have little to do with the actual subjects he's pretending to cover, but are actually about secret moves the enemy is making behind the scenes in order to achieve their goals.
Because a lot of his coverage and complaints revolved around these types of stories, the methods the globalists were supposedly using got a lot of attention and are roundly understood to be evil.
But now Alex has to support someone using those same tactics and make excuses for why they're doing that, and in the process it...
Calls into question how sincere any of his old complaints about these methods actually were.
If there are circumstances where you can unilaterally infringe on the Constitution when you're president because you have a good goal that you couldn't achieve otherwise, you're in very dangerous waters if you're Alex.
Very few of his past political positions make sense with that context added to them.
It kind of becomes too obvious that he's actually motivated by something else.
If you go down, that's for them all a lateral move.
So you can go back.
They can't wait to hire you back in, because then you give them the legitimacy of being like, see, we're above the partisan thing, because we've elevated Tucker Carlson back from the demon bit me to now he's Fox News' biggest host again.
The border agent reportedly shot dead in Vermont traffic stop as Trump sworn in.
A Border Patrol agent in northern Vermont was fatally shot in the neck by what is reported to be a illegal immigrant, and they're just out of control, folks.
Just after President Trump was being sworn in in hundreds of miles in Washington on a promise to deem the border crisis a national emergency on his first day in office, And it goes on to say the border agent was shot while conducting a traffic stop.
The shooter, who Bradley referred to as a visa overstay, was also reportedly killed.
So that's thanks to the Biden administration and George Soros and the NGOs.
Vermont public safety officials have issued a news release announcing that Interstate 91 at mile marker 168 is closed due to an evolving police incident.
The location is near Newport, north of Burlington, near the Canadian border.
Vermont officials have not released additional information on the incident.
So here's another one.
Border patrol agent shot and killed during traffic stop.
It's Fox.
U.S. border agent killed.
Now, this is what we're talking about.
In fact, guys, I meant to get the clip of the mayor, the jerk, in Chicago ready.
Borders are Tom Homan says raids on sanctuary cities to port illegals may be paused after plan was leaked.
So Alex's big conspiracy storyline here is that the Trump administration is going to carry out raids meant to round up undocumented immigrants, which, insanely, Alex supports.
But, I guess, whatever.
There is some opposition to this plan, so people have indicated that they're going to protest these raids, and when possible, maybe even try to obstruct them through some form of civil disobedience.
Alex believes that these protests will be cover that the globalists will use to set off truck bombs and mass shootings, targeting the protesters, which will then be blamed on Trump supporters as a way of demonizing Trump's plan to round up immigrants.
On one level, this is just Alex doing preemptive damage control for the fact that there's a non-zero possibility that some Trump fans or more extreme right-wingers who feel betrayed by Trump's insufficient action, they could commit acts of domestic terrorism against left-leaning protests.
Alex knows that this would be a huge PR problem for his business, so he has to do everything in his power to make sure that no one cares if some act of terrorism like that happens, or at least, if they care, that he's able to hijack that concern and redirect it towards things that...
profitable for him.
But in order to flesh out this narrative, Alex is incorporating this breaking news about a Border Patrol agent getting shot.
This is meant to be an example of the sort of thing Alex has been predicting will happen.
This specific incident is reported in the context of this larger story because it's supposed to be connected.
However, this was about a German guy in Vermont who had overstayed his visa and had been under surveillance prior to this traffic stop.
He and a 21-year-old woman from Washington State had been reported to the police as suspicious because they showed up to check into a hotel in tactical gear and the woman had a gun in a visible holster.
So the police had been following them, and they saw them go to a Walmart, and the man exited the store with a bunch of aluminum foil, which was eventually used to wrap cell phones, which is a little bit suspicious.
The Border Patrol attempted to make a routine stop to bring them in for an interview, and the woman started shooting, ultimately killing one of the agents, and in the firefight, the German man was killed also.
According to the Seattle Times, the woman's parents had reported her missing to Seattle police in May, fearing that she was in a, quote, controlling relationship and was being forced to cut off contact with friends and family.
I don't know exactly what happened in this case, but it definitely appears that it was some bad shit.
The issue is that it has no connection to Alex's narratives about immigration protests and false flag truck bombs.
He has no information about this story other than a couple of surface details, and he's trying to use that to manipulatively reinforce the story he's been pushing.
This is not following best practices with reporting.
But it also seems like from the details that are available when I was preparing this episode, it seems like it's an instance where there was probably a fairly abusive guy who had...
I think, and I don't know, I can't prove this, but I would bet, I would bet everything that I've ever owned and will own in the future, that if we got rid of all of the agencies that we had.
And then put them into one big agency that just deals with domestic violence, we would do better at solving the problems that all of the agencies have.
It went around social media a couple years back being attributed to Abraham Lincoln, and the folks who researched the quote agree that it's basically a rephrasing of an actual line from an 1838 speech that Lincoln gave.
Quote, at what point then is the approach of danger to be expected?
I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us.
It cannot come from abroad.
If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and our finisher.
As a nation of free men, we must live through all time or die by suicide.
This speech that Lincoln gave was specifically about mob violence that was popping up around the country.
Lynch mobs and what have you.
Sure.
On an unrelated note, one of the first things that Trump did when he got into office was pardon all the members of the Oath Keepers militia and Proud Boys street gang who conspired to use mob violence to stop the certification of the 2020 election.
So this is an inconvenient misquote that Alex is trotting out here.
I don't know if it was going on at the exact time, but one of those things that this quote could really very much apply to is whatever Kansas and Missouri went to war about slavery.
I think what we're going to see from Donald Trump is more action in the first 30 days, in the first four weeks of his presidency, than we saw from Joe Biden in the first four years of his.
This is not somebody who is a puppet, who obeys the orders or commands of the globalists at the top or the elite of the highest levels of the political class.
He's not someone who is subject to the world bankers or international interests.
And one of the things that kept running through my head as I was listening to it was the only relevant question here is to what degree are you aware you're lying?
And we're going to see people go up and give speeches and talk about how great Trump is and just totally kiss his ass.
And we're going to see from the Zuckerbergs and the Bezoses and the Bill Gateses and the other Globals deletes, even the Alex Soroses.
How they're just going to stroke his ego and attempt to flatter him and flatter him and flatter him because they believe that he is leading based off of vanity or some superficial motive.
But it's not true.
He's leading for the sake of his legacy, which one could say is vain, but it isn't in his case, in Trump's case, because it's about conscience.
Something these globalists know nothing of.
Something the Alex Soroses and the Bill Gateses and the George Soroses know nothing of.
They haven't tasted conscience since their youth.
If they even had it then, a conscience.
And so he's not going to fall for it.
He's not going to fall for the vanity and the flattery.
He doesn't care anymore because he dodged a bullet and he saw the face of God.
So we as a nation need to realize that what Trump experienced in Butler, Pennsylvania, dodging of a bullet and seeing the face of God, seeing the hand of God, is also what we as an American population experienced.
So BRICS is an acronym meant to describe the countries that are a bit more in the Russia and China sphere of influence, which exists sort of in response to the G7 group of countries.
And their grouping, the BRICS, was formed after Russia invaded Georgia in 2008, and it became somewhat clear they were going to be kicked out of the G8.
I'm glad that Chase thinks this exchange is funny and illustrates some ignorance on the part of this reporter, but it should be pointed out that Spain is definitely not a BRICS country.
The S in BRICS is for South Africa, who joined what was then called BRIC in 2010.
There are 10 countries in BRICS.
There's Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Egypt, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Iran, and the UAE.
There are nine countries who were offered status as partner states and then accepted, which are Belarus, Bolivia, Cuba, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Nigeria, Thailand, Uganda, and Uzbekistan.
Spain is nowhere near this thing, and yet the whole conversation about BRICS countries began with Trump complaining about Spain not paying into NATO enough and accusing them of being a BRICS country.
He's the one who doesn't know what he's talking about.
And yet Chase is too dumb to realize this, so he just laughs at the reporter, filling in and just falling in line with whatever the God King says.
Trump dictates the terms of reality, and then Chase insults people for not following them, even though they're stupid.
I do know that there was the TikTok ban that everybody wanted, specifically Trump, and then there was the TikTok ban that nobody wanted, specifically everybody, and now there's the TikTok ban that they're not going to do because people are mad.
And remember, TikTok is largely about kids, young kids.
If China's going to get information about young kids, I don't know.
To be honest, I think we have bigger problems than that.
But, you know, when you take a look at telephones that are made in China and all the other things that are made in China, military equipment made in China, TikTok...
I think TikTok is not their biggest problem.
But there's big value in TikTok if it gets approved.
If it doesn't get approved, there's no value.
So if we create that value, why aren't we entitled to, like, half?
The other thing, too, is I like how he hit a brick wall when he was like, you know, it's all a lot about children, and if China's going to be trying to get this information about children...
Fucking crazy.
And then the thought just dropped, because I think he realized, like, we should get some of that information.
I mean, yeah, he's essentially going like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody wants that information, because he almost said, eh, you can have information on young people.
There's a real shittiness to, you know, dealing with the people in North Korea who are suffering under Kim Jong-un as, like, oh, there's a lot of, you know, resort potential.
You know, but what we don't talk about, we talk a lot about Jimmy Carter selling his peanut farm, but we don't talk about how he launched a peanut coin.
That just so happens to run the AlexShieldStore.com.
And he's a great dad and a father and husband.
Nate Hughes.
And we've shown you the footage.
We've shown you the trial.
We've shown you the documents.
They're crushing a bunch of people up against the tunnel.
They kill a woman right in front of him.
He does nothing but, in a huge crowd, reach out with his arms, trying to hold himself up and touches a police shield.
They want to put him in jail for three years into sentencing.
So, Nate, Trump is delivering here.
You know, the full names haven't been released because there's thousands, but they put the supposed worst devils up top, who we know from following the trials, no evidence of seditious conspiracy, no nothing.
So, undoubtedly, your name is going to be on there, and if you get missed, they'll be added.
But how does this feel right now as a father of a young baby?
If you want to stretch out rehabilitation to be the broadest fucking thing possible, he has now found a place for himself taking a cut from Alex's online store in order to get around the fact that Alex can't own the company.
So he's kind of in a position where he could be a productive...
But then in terms of rehabilitation, in terms of recognizing what you did and how it was wrong, there's no hope that two years in prison is going to do that.
But I think that when you get further out, though, and you have people like Stuart Rhodes and people like Enrique Tarrio, that, I think, is really fucked up.
The whole thought around January 6th for Stuart Rhodes was that at some point Trump is going to call us up as the rightful militia and we will be empowered by the force of the state.
I don't know why he wouldn't think that even more now.
Also, the Sunshine Patriots thing isn't from Washington's letters.
It's from Thomas Paine's The American Crisis, which starts, quote, These are the times that try men's souls.
The summer soldier and the Sunshine Patriot will, in this crisis, shirk from service of their country.
The term Winter Soldier actually didn't come into fashion until the 1970s as the result of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, who sponsored a hearing called the Winter Soldier Investigation.
The hearing was meant to highlight war crimes carried out by soldiers in Vietnam and how the culpability for those crimes lay with the military hierarchy and their policies.
It wasn't the result of a couple of bad people doing bad things.
They were arguing that it was the product of a corrupt system.
John Kerry testified at the hearing, and he described how they'd come up with the term winter soldier as a play on Thomas Paine's term summer soldier.
He said, quote, we call this investigation the Winter Soldier Investigation.
The term Winter Soldier is a play on the words of Thomas Paine in 1776 when he spoke of the Sunshine Patriot and the summertime soldiers who deserted at Valley Forge because the going was rough.
We who have come here to Washington have come because we feel we have to be Winter Soldiers now.
We could come back to this country.
We could be quiet.
We could hold our silence.
We could not tell what went on in Vietnam, but we feel because of what threatens this country, the fact that the crimes threaten it, not Reds, not the Redcoats, but the crimes which we were committing that threaten it, we have to speak out.
Alex has literally no idea what he's talking about.
He just confidently makes shit up like, oh, it's Washington's letters.
He just makes that shit up all the time, and he says it confidently enough that everyone just lets him get away with it.
Yep.
That's a falsely attributed Mark Twain line.
In 1710, Jonathan Swift, the guy who Alex knows a whole bunch about because of satire and eating his neighbors, he wrote, quote, falsehood flies and the truth comes limping after it.
The expression was repeated in various forms for about 200 years until it was attributed to Mark Twain in 1919, years after he had died.
Nate, your feed cut out, but just talk about the info war.
I mean, it takes money to win a war, and we need to remind listeners that we're not as well endowed financially as Trump or as Elon Musk, which is great.
I'm glad that this guy got his pardon and stuff, but in terms of substance, this seems like a sort of lazy excuse to have your main sponsor on the show and do a bit of a segment.
Just extolling how the only thing you need to do in the information war is give Alex money through this shell that he technically doesn't own for legal reasons.
Yeah, I will say that it seems like the people that are involved in Alex's sphere now, most of them, we've reached the majority point of having received pardons from Trump.
Before, it used to be just like, oh, Stone.
You're like, oh, well, Stone did all that illegal shit.
Less about the physical or like legalistic or bureaucratic logistical hurdles that Trump might face because the greater one is not giving a shit about Owen Shroyer.
Like, did he just hear a bunch of things that were, like, kind of great turns of phrase, and then he wrote them all down, and then everyone just remembers all this stuff?
Well, I mean, theoretically, or from stuff that I've read, Churchill did that.
That was his kind of vibus.
He had a bad memory for speaking, and he wasn't very good extemporaneously, so he would write down pithy quotes from other people and then use them in his, you know...
I think that people who generally say, you know, may you live in interesting times, they're generally, I think you hear it a lot more from people who like the not interesting times.