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Jan. 13, 2025 - Knowledge Fight
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#997: January 8, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to hear Alex break down some dumb ideas about the California fire, "big boy talk," and how Trump and Elon are basically Bruce Wayne.

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alex jones
26:20
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dan friesen
38:49
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jordan holmes
18:23
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pastor david manning
00:02
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steve quayle
00:02
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alex jones
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
unidentified
Thanks for holding us.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your world.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship with the author of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot is twofold.
One, I forgot to mention it, but we were recently on God Awful Movies.
unidentified
Oh, yeah!
dan friesen
And we discovered a great auteur of the MAGA world.
I don't recommend that people go watch his show necessarily, but I think it's fun to hear us discuss.
A MAGA creator who we actually think has an accidental depth to him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't want people to watch it, but I want people to watch it so they can think about it way more than watching it.
So don't watch it, but think about what you might want to think about real hard.
dan friesen
Yeah, it was a lot of fun, so thank them for having us on.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
And then the second fold is we have a weird food thing.
Keeping up the 2025.
I like it.
Four fives, five fives.
jordan holmes
Right, I like that.
dan friesen
So I noticed Pringles.
They have some varieties out now.
They have some new varieties.
I wanted to give them a test drive.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So first one was Everything Bagel.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Trash.
Oh, I love an Everything Bagel.
dan friesen
I do too.
jordan holmes
It's one of my favorite bagels.
dan friesen
It doesn't translate to a Pringle.
jordan holmes
It makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How could it?
dan friesen
I felt disgusted, and I did not even finish the can.
jordan holmes
Makes sense.
dan friesen
I am sure some people will enjoy it, but it was not for me.
But I do like an Everything Bagel, and I actually think...
You know, it has an interesting flavor because of the poppy seeds and the onion and all that.
But yeah, it doesn't work.
And the other one is Hot Ones.
All right.
Los Calientes.
jordan holmes
Ah.
dan friesen
One of their hot sauces.
And it's pretty hot.
alex jones
I believe that.
unidentified
It's nice.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And that's not even like a crazy, crazy hot version of their hot sauces.
That's middle of the road in terms of it.
It's a pretty hot chip.
alex jones
I like it.
dan friesen
It's not bad.
jordan holmes
Nice!
They've...
Really taken over a lot of shit, the Hot Ones.
dan friesen
The Hot Ones, yeah.
jordan holmes
Wow, did that go fast.
dan friesen
It did.
And I also, because I saw this can, I reflected on how long it's been since I've watched one of them and how much I enjoyed it, you know, a number of years back.
jordan holmes
Ten years ago, yeah.
dan friesen
And also how much it's like, I don't really eat that crazy spicy stuff anymore.
Right, right, right, right.
And, you know, obviously some things are a phase.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And maybe it was a little bit.
But I had some crazy hot Nashville chicken the other day.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I experienced what I used to seek out.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I kind of remembered it a little bit.
jordan holmes
You enjoyed it?
dan friesen
Not really.
But I remembered what I enjoyed.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
I gotcha, I gotcha.
It was worth it, but it was not worth it.
dan friesen
Well, I remembered that it's basically like a feeling of, I don't know if I can survive this.
jordan holmes
Right.
Oh, okay.
And that's what you were seeking out.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's ingesting something that is like, this might kill me, or I might kill myself because this will never stop.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then getting through that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The alleviating of that.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Is really what I...
jordan holmes
There's so many problems I'm dealing with.
This one I know I can endure.
dan friesen
I like the flavors of a lot of spicy foods, too, but it is...
I do realize, having had that experience again, it was a little bit of, like, food-based...
Right.
...based jumping or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So anyway...
Cheers to the Los Calientes.
Cheers to the Everything Bagel.
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is I finished it.
I posted it up on my website.
Part one of my new book.
dan friesen
Nice.
Do you have a name?
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's called The Institution.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And yeah, it's on my website, The Quiet Part Loud.
There's a PDF and an EPUB.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
You can have one or other.
dan friesen
Not both?
jordan holmes
You have to choose one.
You should force people to choose one.
Well, I actually did make them two different versions.
Oh!
Different endings?
No, not like that.
But I did the same thing with The Quiet Part Loud, was that all three versions and the audiobook have small differences within them.
I don't know why, I just like doing weird stuff like that.
dan friesen
Well, the audiobook would naturally have that, because you're reading it, and it would have some even inflection.
jordan holmes
Well, and also a guest star turn from you.
dan friesen
I remember that I produced it, but I don't remember that I said anything.
jordan holmes
No, there's a specific section that's in Spanish from a specific region, and I had you put in, like, Jordan is not going to try an accent on this.
dan friesen
I completely forgot that I did that, but it's now going on my reel.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
IMDB page.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
We're going to be talking about January 8th, 2025.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Four, four, five, fives.
jordan holmes
How about we do this?
You do 4-4 and I'll do 5-5.
dan friesen
Nah.
jordan holmes
Nah, fair enough.
dan friesen
We'll come up with something better.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But, you know, this is the day after the fires in California spread a great deal, so we're going to hear some of Alex's coverage of that, which is good.
jordan holmes
I believe you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I believe that this is the one where he turned it around.
It's too close to where Joe Rogan used to live.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
Obviously, you know, our hearts go out to everybody who is affected by the fires.
And hopefully, you know, there's recovery efforts that can go smoothly.
And it is unfortunate that we have to listen to Alex be a real dick about this.
jordan holmes
What a weird turn for us.
dan friesen
But before we get into all of this, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Well, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, this is the coffering for my dragon queen without the coffee in her hand.
She'll kill all the villagers in the land.
This is the coffering for my dragon queen.
Without this coffee every morn, she'll eat all the babies born.
This is my coffering.
Thank you so much, you're not a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Coffee-ering?
jordan holmes
Coffee-ering.
dan friesen
I get what it's going for.
I get it.
I just don't know how to say it.
jordan holmes
It's like a coffering.
dan friesen
Coffee offering.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Next, Jordan, let's nuke the seventh dimension.
Thank you so much, you're not a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
The eighth is for Buckaroo Banzai.
dan friesen
Okay.
And happy birthday Hannah from Colorado Village Collective.
Jace Face Says You Smell.
Thank you so much.
You're now policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to Steve.
Happy 40th from Amy Chen and the Dinosaurs.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
So we start off here on the 8th, and you know the problem's the left.
The left is doing these fires.
And here's Alex doing his first pitch at being a dick.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
alex jones
All right.
It is Wednesday, January 8th, 2025.
President Trump is inaugurated in less than 12 days.
And I want to be 100% clear about what's happening in California right now with 11 days, 23 hours, 56 minutes, 42. Seconds.
It's not like I'm going to come on the show today and blame the government of California and the Democrats and their policies just because I feel like it.
jordan holmes
I feel like it's about to happen.
alex jones
We've been exposing this on my show for at least 25 years.
And the different Great Reset, rewilding, post-industrial, Rio de Janeiro, UN 1992 treaty.
That...
Is doing this all over the Western world.
By direct policies, what you saw in Lahaina a few years ago, in Maui, what you're seeing now is where, starting in the mid-90s, any leftist-controlled city, including now in Europe, got rid of thousands of years of human understanding.
We're even in ancient cultures, the Romans, the ancient Gauls in what's France today, the Germans, people in China did this.
Africans do it around their villages.
You cut the brush back for a long way around your village, around your town.
You build fire breaks so that when fires come, they don't jump across and burn down your town.
But starting in the mid-90s, they stopped cutting the brush.
And a lot more.
We'll explain it all when we come back.
dan friesen
Oh, cool.
So it's possible that there could have been some advantages to having increased fire breaks in California, but most people who have looked at the current fire don't think it would have really helped that much.
In theory, maybe you would have been able to create more staging area for firefighters, but like...
Fire containment and prevention requires limiting a fire's ability to spread by controlling for one of the important fire variables.
Cutting fire breaks is a strategy that's aimed at minimizing the amount of fuel a fire has, which will make it less able to expand in a given direction.
If you have a big fire and it encounters a complete wall of things that can't burn, it will eventually run out of fuel, and that's one good approach for fire prevention.
In the case of the California fires, though, this really isn't a great strategy because the fires are spread less by an abundance of fuel and more by the wind.
In order to have effective firebreaks around residential areas, you'd need to cut like a mile of vegetation around them, and it just isn't something that's environmentally responsible.
Winds were like 80 miles an hour while the fire was initially spreading, so no matter the size of the firebreak you cut, embers could easily jump them and spawn new fires.
There are variables to take into account about how we can be better prepared for the next fire, but this just isn't an angle that makes sense to take.
This is a tragedy, and Alex is doing what he always does, which is exploit that tragedy for profit.
But actually, I think the first volley here isn't that bad.
I mean, this is kind of just...
Standard-y Alex-y dumb shit.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
What we need to do is we need to, you know, he's mad that everyone's mad at Trump for saying, like, we need to rake the forests a number of years ago.
jordan holmes
That's what's more important.
It's that people are mad at Trump, not that the fucking city's on fire.
That's what Alex is exemplifying.
dan friesen
If only they had a Republican government.
Some parts of California are.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't know what you want.
I don't know what you want out of this other than to say, like, I think if you're LA, you're not worried about political party, and you're just looking at the past 40 years of people in charge, and you're going, there were things we could have done better.
dan friesen
Well, I think you're probably also looking around and seeing a bunch of people who need your help, and you need their help, and I think probably a lot of that, what about fire breaks, is probably not as important.
jordan holmes
Not helpful right now.
dan friesen
But also, I think that...
Alex, what he's trying to do here is that he's trying to create a dichotomy and use these fires as an illustration of the alternative to Trump.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You can either choose Trump or this.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Everything is going to be on fire.
alex jones
We have two choices as a civilization.
We can have what Trump calls the dawn of America's golden age or...
We can have the globalist post-industrial civilizational collapse by design, where civilization, as you know, it is over by 2030.
And then the people that orchestrated cutting off the food, the energy, the fertilizer, the infrastructure, point at the disaster and say, see, global warming caused all this.
Global warming is going to cause these new viruses to come and kill you.
And then they cook the viruses up in labs.
And, oh, the virus caused 80-something million extra people the last five years to starve to death.
No, the lockdowns from the virus did it on record.
So when they get up there and tell you the end of the world as you know it is 2030 and that it's because of man-made climate change, then you read deeper into their own documents, the UN, the WF, the Club of Rome, the CFR, all of them.
They say they are cutting off the industrial system to carry the population of 8.5 billion people.
And then they intend to use the crises because every time in all the studies, any country, no matter whether you're in Africa, Asia, Europe, the Americas, people are all the same.
50% of somebody's income gets spent on food and energy.
When you hit that point, you start getting high crime, civil unrest.
You push up to 60%, you get revolution and war.
You push it up to 80%.
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
I don't know if you can tell just by the way he's talking and the rhythm of his speech, but Alex is just making all that up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that has to be.
I don't even know what that means, honestly.
dan friesen
These are his numbers he's pulling out of his ass because he wants to scare the audience and present a reality where you have to support everything Trump does or risk getting eaten by cannibals.
Interestingly, according to the USDA, American homes spend 11.2% of their income on food in 2023, which was unchanged from 2022 and actually significantly down from about 15% in the 80s.
A recent report by the American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy found that, quote, on average, low-income households spend 17.8% of their income on energy bills and transportation fuel, more than three times the national average.
So if we take that 11.2% of income spent on food and add the highest energy cost of 17.8%, which is three times the national average, you end up with 29%.
That's still high, and I'm not trying to say that there's no problem there, but even using these as average numbers, we're pretty far from the territory that Alex is describing.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So he's saying that 50% you get civil unrest and high crime, but he's trying to present a world where there's massive amounts of crime, cities are burning constantly, not from wildfires, but from arson and Antifa.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So, like, I don't understand.
jordan holmes
I think what I find fascinating about this is that in his terms, It would make more sense for all of us to pitch in to make sure people who have to spend more money on food and energy don't have to spend as much money on food and energy so they don't eat us.
dan friesen
I guess, and that's a logical extension of what he's saying.
jordan holmes
I mean, it makes sense.
He's going for socialism by fear of cannibalism, I believe is what's happening here.
dan friesen
Hey, and if so, I'm on board.
jordan holmes
If that's what it takes, whatever it takes to get you there, man.
dan friesen
So, Alex talks a little bit about Cloward and Piven.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Not Jeremy.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
Not Jeremy Cloward.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
Anyway, it has something to do with the fire.
alex jones
What is Cloward and Piven?
Well, it's...
Not the first time governments did this, but it put it into a cosmology and a political formula in the 1970s by two communist professors, Cloward and Piven, the Cloward and Piven strategy, and they said, we will overtake the social safety network and get people addicted to it and crank it up so high to make people dependent.
And within a generation, we'll collapse America and blame capitalism and on its ashes bring in total communism.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
And what did Ezekiel Emanuel say on Fox News 10 years ago?
And others, he said, oh, Obamacare was always meant to triple prices and collapse the old system and bring in a government system.
But it'll still be run by big corporations that make the profit.
They just socialize the profit for themselves and privatize the debt to you.
When you see the fires all over the Western world, Lahaina, years ago in Maui, and you look at what really happened there, and you look at what's happening in Los Angeles right now, at every level, at every step of the way, this is not mismanagement.
unidentified
This is perfect administrative, economic, industrial sabotage.
alex jones
This is murder.
This is destruction.
This is scorched earth.
This is siege by design.
dan friesen
So Cloward and Piven were two academics who put forth a theory in the 1960s.
Their basic point was that the way that the current welfare state was designed was inherently meant to not address the problem of poverty, but to put a band-aid on it.
There are tons of social safety net type programs that people are eligible for, but the state actively dissuades them from knowing that they're eligible for them and tries to make them reluctant to sign up for these programs.
They theorize that if massive welfare drives were organized, then people who were eligible for public assistance would be more likely to sign up for the help that they needed.
In the process, it would create a burden that the existing welfare system could not handle because the idea that it's actually meant to handle that is an illusion.
And that's an illusion that we understand and can maintain because the system hasn't been crushed by people getting the aid that they're eligible for.
jordan holmes
It works until you go look for it.
dan friesen
Yes.
By having people sign up for the assistance they were eligible for, but the state could not provide, the welfare system would collapse.
And from that collapse would come the need to redesign what we consider welfare.
The hope was that the pressure that this would apply would revolutionize how we dealt with poverty and ideally would bring about some form of universal guaranteed income.
This didn't happen, but because it's an attack on the existing welfare state that's rooted in a desire to actually help and provide more assistance to the poor, it's the scariest thing for people on Alcina.
unidentified
Right.
They're even worse than the system.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I don't know what it has to do with the fires or anything, but I...
jordan holmes
I was wondering about that particular element of it, and I was wondering if it was because of Cloward and Piven that we got the 80% cannibal part.
dan friesen
I think that 80% of people are eligible to be cannibals.
jordan holmes
I think that's a good point.
dan friesen
Do you want to have a cannibalism drive?
jordan holmes
I think we should, because that'll get the welfare state off of our backs.
When there are fewer people to put a drain on it, we've eaten them.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, at California, the issue that Alex has identified is that they didn't have these fire breaks.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But Texas does.
unidentified
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Texas totally does.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
alex jones
I live in an area that has these big fire breaks put in by the fire department, by the county, because I live on the edge of the city.
And it's nothing but neighborhoods there, so you never see big crowds on the green belt there on Barton Creek.
When you get closer to the town, you'll see thousands of people walking around.
It's beautiful.
But where I live, there's just nobody there.
You might see one person every few months when I go walk down there almost every day.
Beautiful creek, cliffs, hills.
But there's huge 50-foot-wide roads all the way down it, all the way out through the county.
And it's got fire department little signs in the middle of the neighborhood where they come in and fire hydrants.
Because if there's ever a big wildfire and it's coming through, they've got to stop it there.
It's a firebreak.
Now, Texas hadn't been completely taken over by the globalists.
But there have been city council proposals to cut the funding and for the county and the city and to stop maintaining firebreaks, which are not expensive to do compared to the cost of the fires.
So when we get dry weather, we get high winds, and the fires come in.
They rarely destroy houses.
Because they run into fire breaks, fire mitigation.
So, the U.N. proposed in the 70s.
They became a treaty in 1992.
Rio de Janeiro, Earth Summit.
Agenda 2021.
jordan holmes
Too late.
alex jones
And it said, we are not going to touch, and it's got thousands of things they're going to do, but amongst it, we're going to destroy the dams.
We're to deny farmers water, and we're not going to mar the earth with fire mitigation.
dan friesen
The word fire appears three times in the Agenda 21 report, and at no time do they say they don't want to mar the world with fire mitigation.
jordan holmes
What are you going to do?
dan friesen
They actually even say make more dams than destroy the dams.
Alex is just making all this up and then pointing to the prop that he's created that's labeled Agenda 21. He does this when he name drops Cloward and Piven or the Club of Rome.
There's no actual information being conveyed here, and he's not even really citing a source.
It's more deflection than a citation at all.
And also, Texas has had plenty of fires.
Alex just ignores them in order to maintain this illusion.
Last year, there was the Smokehouse Creek Fire, which burned over 850,000 acres in 48 hours and would go on to spread to Oklahoma and over 1 million total acres of coverage, killing two people.
That was the largest wildfire in Texas history, but I guess it probably only happened because Beto O 'Rourke did fine at the polls.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
This is bullshit.
You can have all kinds of good preparation and things can still go bad.
You can do decent preparation and still have missed some points.
You can have mismanagement and...
Have a complex situation.
It doesn't have to be like this.
jordan holmes
We're a giant ball of rock orbiting fire orbiting a black hole.
What the fuck is...
Anything could happen.
I get that.
I don't understand how you can both be like, ah, the globalists are our number one enemy.
Also, city councils are an issue.
An issue.
They're an issue.
Like, you can't have both.
I don't feel like you can have both.
dan friesen
The city council doesn't want to maintain the fire breaks because of the devil.
jordan holmes
But what's the point of Cloward and Pivot then if we've got city councils already on...
The job!
dan friesen
Right.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Weird.
dan friesen
Also, how does the devil play into this?
Second, weren't we supposed to be having a catastrophic contagion?
Wasn't that where we were?
jordan holmes
Well.
dan friesen
Weren't there aliens?
unidentified
Nah.
dan friesen
What's happening?
jordan holmes
That different thing is happening now, so we're exploiting that.
dan friesen
People were, their attention is over on something else, so you're trying to hijack that shit.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you wanted to argue that the devil created city councils.
That's a conversation we can have.
But beyond that, I don't know what to tell you.
dan friesen
Well, you know what the devil says is think globally, act locally.
jordan holmes
I think that's right.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's in the details.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The devil is.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
Devil to eggs.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
That was nothing.
So there's a conspiracy here.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
There would have to be.
And it has to do with insurance companies.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But it's not what you think.
alex jones
Two months ago, all the major insurance companies...
Started pulling almost everybody's insurance in the key areas, and people are now noticing, wait, it's even the areas of all the dozens of fires in different parts of L.A. in the last 48 hours.
It's like key specific areas that just so happen.
jordan holmes
Don't do this.
alex jones
Yeah, the fires.
Now, I'm not saying the Democrats went around and set all the fires, though, back when they were trying to kick Trump out of office four years ago, Antifa got arrested all over the country, all over Canada.
Lighting fires and it would barely make the national news.
And when it only made local news, people would try to post it on Facebook or X when it was Twitter and they'd be blocked.
They arrested hundreds of leftists setting fires all over the country.
jordan holmes
Sorry?
alex jones
To create a sense of doom, a sense of fear.
Came out that Hollywood ordered all the people that were getting money through their ESG program, their corporate credit score.
We want to...
Fair.
We want depression.
We want demoralization.
So people would then associate that with Trump.
dan friesen
This is all a load of bullshit, but it would be really fun for Alex to try to substantiate some of these claims.
Like, I want to see the paper trail of these Hollywood payments that were given out to, like, thousands of leftists to start fires to create bad vibes for Trump.
It's sad.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
There's a certain kind of pathetic that Alex embodies where every event that happens just has to be filtered through this prism.
This can't just be a huge tragic fire.
He needs to use it as fuel for his own fire, which is all about how everything is an attack on Trump and by proxy himself.
I was curious about this insurance conspiracy that Alex was talking about, and it turns out that Alex is just repeating something that his mortal enemy Kamala Harris said recently.
Quote, Yeah.
It feels like his audience would find that context interesting.
Alex is playing these games because the angle that he wants the audience to come away with is that these fires were set on purpose as part of an elaborate conclusion.
Yeah.
What happened here is not that insurance companies have canceled all these policies in advance of the fires that they're planning to set.
It's that insurance companies are businesses that seek to maximize profits.
It's been an existing problem that homeowners insurance in California is super expensive for people to get because a lot of companies can't profit off it.
California is a state with some decent consumer protection regulations, so the insurance companies are limited in what rates they can charge.
And given that the risk is fairly high in California with the incidences of fires and earthquakes, insurance companies know that insuring homes in the state has the potential to lose them a lot of money.
So State Farm announced last March that they wouldn't renew approximately 72,000 existing policies in California and stop selling new homeowners insurance policies in the state.
It was not profitable for them as a business, so they chose not to do it.
Now, there's been a big fire, and the ability to exploit this decision is there, so you see people like Alex weaving a conspiracy out of it.
But if you'd asked them a couple months ago when this wasn't as hot a topic, why would they have any problem with State Farm choosing to do this?
Or with any insurance company deciding where they want to do business and where they feel they can't make a profit doing that?
Are insurance companies supposed to be benevolent, self-sacrificing entities that exist outside of a profit motive?
Definitely not to Alex.
Absent a giant fire to exploit emotionally, Alex would strongly defend an insurance company's right to do business how they want.
In California, it's illegal for them to cancel a policy while it's active for no reason, but what authority should force an insurance company to re-enter existing policies, or enter new ones that they don't want to?
Alex's ideology hits a brick wall here because he has no answer for this.
Insurance companies abandoning people when they can if it looks costly to provide the actual product they sell is the free market that he supports.
This is bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's...
Okay.
We've gone down this road before.
It's already been tried whenever you had to pay a fire department if your house was on fire to...
Put it out.
And they wouldn't put it out because you didn't pay them, but they would hang out next door in case the fire spread.
That's not a functional way of doing things.
And second, this whole thing is getting to Spanish Inquisition levels of like, oh, are you saying something that's reasonable?
You're probably blaspheming God.
We're going to have to kill you.
dan friesen
No, for sure.
jordan holmes
Hey, this sounds reasonable.
It's an attack on Trump.
Like, well, okay.
dan friesen
And it's absolutely ludicrous to imagine Alex containing these positions.
I understand that it is really, really monstrous right now to defend the actions of these insurance companies canceling these policies because people who were affected by it maybe now don't have insurance and their house burned down.
It's monstrous to defend that.
But you must.
If you are Alex.
jordan holmes
That is the problem with it.
dan friesen
Because the belief itself is monstrous.
It was before the fires.
And it still is.
jordan holmes
No, well, it's easier, though, whenever you don't...
You know, it's like insurance.
It always works until you need it.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And insurance companies not providing it when you need it, but taking your money when you don't.
jordan holmes
Seems like it's almost a scam.
dan friesen
It kind of counteracts what it's supposed to be.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And moments like this really make that clear.
Yeah.
And Alex...
Doesn't have a problem until it looks bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, their position is like, you know, insurance is a scam, except for sometimes it's not.
So I guess that works.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So at this point, Alex seemed to be hitting just as the check marks.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Just like there's a list of people you've got to demonize.
jordan holmes
These people.
dan friesen
So we've already talked about the leftists.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But now what about people who are experiencing homelessness?
unidentified
Obviously.
dan friesen
What about them?
jordan holmes
It's their fault.
alex jones
Why do the insurance companies know?
Well, they know high winds are coming.
All this brush has grown up.
There's walking dead, 70,000 homeless that love to set fires.
A large percentage of them, a large minority of them, so they're out running around enjoying themselves.
Some of those psychotic, drugged-out homeless have the same spirit as the globalists.
They're just the non-player character level of it, zombying around on the ground.
But up above...
The globalists get all the disaster money, all the control.
dan friesen
Yeah, man, so that's fucked up.
You just got a bunch of unhoused people who like to run around and set fires.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't even know where to start.
dan friesen
No.
Start and end with fuck you.
unidentified
Yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
So we get down the checklist even further, and now what about calling people DEI hires?
jordan holmes
Great!
dan friesen
How about that?
jordan holmes
How about it?
alex jones
So you have the L.A. mayor cutting.
$17-plus million last year out of the funding for the fire department, cutting hundreds of millions out of other fire mitigation.
And they literally spent it on DEI hires, and they have the new fire chief that came in last year going, I'm a lesbian, and my main mission is DEI.
We have the clip.
And they're not read into this.
They believe that their main job is being politically correct.
They don't need to know how to put out a fire.
They don't need to have any responsibility.
When they get asked on the news, hey, why is the mayor in Africa on a junket?
Why aren't you releasing the water from the reservoir?
And the woman says, that's not my job.
So you put a bunch of inept...
People in at the grassroots that don't know what's going on.
dan friesen
So the fire chief in Los Angeles is a woman named Kristen Crowley, who is a lesbian.
So this has naturally become a point of attack for the folks on the right who are definitely not primarily motivated by their deep-seated bigotries.
When Crowley said that the whole water thing wasn't her job, she's right.
That is a higher-up, the latter state government issue that isn't part of her job.
As she put it, quote, when a firefighter comes to a hydrant, we expect there's going to be water.
Crowley is the first fire chief in LA who's a member of the LGBTQ community and the first female to hold that position as well.
She'd been a firefighter for 22 years when she was appointed in 2022, and a part of the backdrop of what was going on at the time was that the previous chief, Ralph Terrazas, had recently gotten into some trouble about allegations that he'd allowed a, quote, pervasive, racist, and sexist culture to exist within the LA Fire Department.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
The president of the Los Angeles Women in the Fire Department There were multiple reports of sexual assault and rape occurring at firehouses, and many felt that these reports were not handled seriously enough.
In October 2021, the LAS released an investigation that found that there was endemic hazing and harassment that were directed at female firefighters in the department and that the institution did not seem all that interested in addressing it.
The accounts they uncovered, along with the push from the L.A. women in the fire service group, led to a little bit of public pressure to stop ignoring this shit.
So Tarazis retired, and Crowley was elevated to this position.
When she came into the role, she spoke about a lot of improvements she'd like to make to the department, including but not limited to addressing this culture of harassment that women and minority recruits had to endure.
Naturally, the right wing, who are definitely not just fundamentally bigots, took this as an attack on white men, and now Alex doesn't even consider.
her a person, but a DEI hire.
So this just feels like a right-wing grievance checklist that we've gone down.
We've got the fire breaks storyline.
We've got the Cloward and Piven.
We've got the Agenda 21. We've got the attacking the left, attacking homeless people, attacking LGBTs.
LGBTQ people having a job.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
And I just, I think, like, this feels dull.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you recall, I said we wouldn't make it out of the witch era.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think, and how about this?
Maybe we go back.
We go further back, all right?
How about we try some virgins, okay?
We just have some vessel virgins, all right?
And then when shit like this happens...
They gotta go, that way we don't scapegoat poor people and the disenfranchised, you know?
We're prepared for this scenario so we don't have to exploit people.
dan friesen
This is dumb and bad, but also, I think, too advanced for Alex.
jordan holmes
I think you're right, too!
Goddamn, we're not making it out of the trees, man.
dan friesen
But I also just, I feel like this is dull in a way that's like, I don't feel energy here.
Like, I don't feel passion behind what Alex is saying.
Like, I think that he's, uh...
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Is this his version of being, like, a...
dan friesen
Respectable?
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, a respectable newsman?
jordan holmes
This is his version of a compassionate version of Alex not, like, I'm not going to go too hard screaming about how bad these people are.
There's an emergency.
dan friesen
There's a problem that I kind of feel from some of this.
Like, you know, he's gotten, he's lost a bit of weight.
He's trying to hang out around, like, America First.
Great.
He's friends with Tucker.
I think that there's a feeling of, like, I'm pretty fucking close to power.
Like, the problem is me.
The problem is the way that I blow up.
The problem is the thing that makes me entertaining and valuable as a commodity.
jordan holmes
I need to take it down and be more serious.
dan friesen
Because maybe then I can actually become the next Rush Limbaugh, as opposed to being...
Alex Jones for the rest of my fucking life.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine.
dan friesen
There's a feeling that I have a little bit of that.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine the possibility of that level of pivot.
Jeremy pivot.
I just can't.
dan friesen
Cloward and pivot.
jordan holmes
Went twice.
Tried it twice.
Didn't work the first time.
Now we got it the second time.
dan friesen
I don't think it worked either.
So I think that there is a respectability mask that he's trying to put on a little bit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
By not blowing up and not being as entertaining.
And just kind of being like, hey, we're going through the motions of right wing grievance stuff.
And I think that's stupid.
Because for one, you will never escape this box, Alex.
You're destined to die in this box.
jordan holmes
You built it.
dan friesen
And good!
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because you get to do stuff like this.
alex jones
The Fabian Socialist, H.G. Wells, was the head of their society.
Back in the...
Earlier 20th century, first parts of that.
He wrote more nonfiction books than fiction.
And he said, I put in my fiction books allegories of what's really happening.
Like the time machine.
They're the Morlocks, we're the Eloi.
And one of his protégés, because they had their Nebula Awards and all the rest of it, where they would push members of their futurists.
Transhumanist cult to make sure they were the top science fiction writers so that they could get their ideas into the culture through entertainment to pre-program people with predictive programming is what it's called.
And if you read the Foundation series of Isaac Asimov and they've made a TV show on Netflix I watched a little bit of it but it was just too woke version of it so I just couldn't watch more than a few episodes.
jordan holmes
Too woke.
alex jones
And Too woke.
In it, they've done the math with their supercomputers in the 20th century.
This books are written in the 50s.
The early 21st century is when it's set.
And they decide this cult to create a breakaway civilization and then sabotage civilization and short-circuit it.
Because in their permutations, then it allows civilization to survive in the long run, but if they don't derail it up front, then it will race forward, go intergalactic, but then collapse.
Interstellar, intergalactic.
Now, then you go read another member of their cult, Arthur C. Clarke's books.
Yeah.
And it's all the same stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, read some more of that shit.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
So I've tried to figure out another way to say this.
I really sat and thought about it because I don't want it to be this simple.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But these are the thoughts of a complete idiot.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is outrageous.
Yep.
unidentified
If you follow out his thought, then you have H.G. Wells secretly revealing the globalist plans through his sci-fi books.
dan friesen
And then in order to make sure is heavily influenced by this globalist ideology.
He starts the Hugo Awards, or was it the Nebula Awards?
unidentified
Nebula, yeah.
dan friesen
So you can handpick the top people in the sci-fi world.
Isaac Asimov's Foundation series gives away the globalist plans, but the TV version was too woke for Alex to watch.
The Nebula Awards were started in 1966.
Yup!
unidentified
Run by the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers Association, which wasn't founded by H.G. Wells.
dan friesen
Yep, I knew that.
art until 1953 and also had nothing to do with H.G. Wells.
I'm pretty convinced Alex has these mixed up because Foundation didn't win a Nebula, but the original trilogy won Best All-Time Series in 1966 at the Hugo Awards.
Right.
unidentified
The first Nebula Award for Best Novel went to Dune.
jordan holmes
Sounds right.
dan friesen
Yeah, which is great for Alex.
But what about the other winners?
Like in 1967 and 68, Samuel Delaney won Best Novel.
I've never heard Alex talk about any of his shit.
jordan holmes
You've never heard of Sammy Delaney?
dan friesen
Not from Alex.
jordan holmes
He's Zany Delaney.
dan friesen
Two years in a row won the Nebula.
He must have been a huge part of the cult.
jordan holmes
He's probably a big part.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Esimov wouldn't win one until 1973, and it wasn't for Foundation.
No.
See, I don't know.
This is an idiot.
jordan holmes
Asimov's main problem was having written too many goddamn books.
dan friesen
And too woke.
jordan holmes
Well, I will say this.
Asimov's problem, not wokeness.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Current Foundation, again, also not wokeness.
dan friesen
Too woke for Alex.
jordan holmes
Different reasons.
But yeah, and also that's not the plot of Foundation at all.
dan friesen
But also...
When Foundation won Best...
jordan holmes
All-Time Series.
dan friesen
Yeah, in 1966.
You know who got snubbed?
jordan holmes
Who?
dan friesen
J.R.R.
Tolkien.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's right!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Izemov, I remember reading something where he said he was really, really surprised by that because he expected so many other...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Edgar Rice Burroughs stormed the stage.
And had a yay moment.
jordan holmes
Oh, did he?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
dan friesen
Like, all respect to Asimov, but Tolkien had the greatest series of all time.
jordan holmes
Greatest series of all time.
Goddamn hobbits.
What are you going to do with these fall of Rome allegories?
Fuck you.
dan friesen
So this is fun.
And, you know, Alex just trying to defend why he thinks reading sci-fi books as a kid counts as research.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's cute.
But in the same way that it just feels dull, him talking about the fire stuff, it feels empty for him to deliver this in a non-crazy, cryptic way.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
What I think is so weird is he has an almost...
I don't know if it's an accidental or if it's like there's no way for me to have a coherent position at all, but L. Ron Hubbard is not brought up.
And it's like, that man threw so many fucking words at sci-fi.
How can you not include him as a guy who, like, he wasn't an influence.
dan friesen
But he was a little bit of an outsider to some of those awards.
jordan holmes
He was an outsider in the same way that you, like, slam your shoulder through a door, and everybody's like, please get out of here, and you're like, I'm L. Ron Hubbard!
dan friesen
Yeah.
But also, like, I mean, there's the insanity of that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But then there's also, like, there's a great diversity of...
Sort of ideologies that are espoused by people who are in sci-fi.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, you have people like an H.G. Wells.
jordan holmes
That wasn't a great diversity.
dan friesen
You have people like Philip K. Dick.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, like, what's his position?
Where is he coming from on a political spectrum?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Getting high.
dan friesen
People like Frank Herbert.
People like Starship Troopers guy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't scratch any of them too hard.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You wouldn't like what you'd find.
dan friesen
Some of them are more authoritarian, fascist-y types than others.
jordan holmes
Sure.
No, there's definitely gradients.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
That's the diversity.
Not so much the women weren't allowed.
dan friesen
So Alex, I just think he sounds better when he's saying sci-fi movies are real when he's drunk.
And I think that when you're sober and kind of talking like a normal person trying to pitch this, it becomes too clear that you're an idiot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's not fun, idiot.
jordan holmes
There should almost be like a, hey, this is the aside where bong rip, let's go.
dan friesen
Right, like him on Rogan talking about this shit while he's drunk.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
That's fun.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
This isn't.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But he insists on going along.
jordan holmes
Gotta keep going.
alex jones
Then you go read another member of their cult, Arthur C. Clarke's books, and it's all the same stuff.
We gotta have a world government, we gotta kill everybody.
We can't have free market competition.
It'll create too many competing technological bases.
And those technological bases will then war with each other in the future.
And so we have to have a total tyranny to get rid of most people and create kind of a Hunger Games world where you have very small, compact, high-tech city-states and everybody else that's allowed to live.
In small numbers, are agrarian and basically kept artificially like Amish.
And then we're seeing, those of us that are allowed to survive, as a nature preserve.
So you have the Elysium fields of the demigod elites who then will transcend to an Olympian level of godhood once they achieve immortality through technology.
This is their official plan.
jordan holmes
Official.
alex jones
And they use Greek mythology as the allegory, as the model.
jordan holmes
Sounds true.
alex jones
And then they will leave a few of us as wild humans, and then just like in the Greek legends, they'll land in their ship or whatever, and we'll think they're Zeus, and they'll come out in a white outfit and have sex with our women and do whatever they want.
This is their plan.
You go, wow, that's great.
That's Clash of the Titans.
Yeah, yeah.
And see, it was...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
It was...
They make movies like Elysium, all of it.
Recently, like 10 years ago, with Matt Damon.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
I think you listened to our live episode.
alex jones
Came up with all this plan.
The depopulation, all of it, 2,300 years ago.
So they're following his plan.
What?
unidentified
And...
alex jones
I'm saying, Musk is saying, Trump is saying, we need to abandon that plan.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's all Elon Musk and Trump and Alex Jones are saying is, don't follow Plato!
jordan holmes
You know what?
I like having it boiled down into those terms.
I like that.
That's very simple.
I can engage with that.
Elon's plan is let's not follow Plato.
dan friesen
Agreed.
jordan holmes
I guess we are in agreement.
Now what?
What's our next step forward is my question.
dan friesen
I don't think we're going to agree with Elon on that one.
jordan holmes
I have a strong doubt.
dan friesen
I just think that this is...
These are the thoughts of a lunatic.
And when they're being presented...
Kind of calmly.
It just sucks.
jordan holmes
There's a secret society that invented Plato, created his plan, and has slowly pulled it out from blankety-blank, let's not worry about it.
dan friesen
Use Greek mythology as an overlay.
jordan holmes
We've already used that with Plato.
Now we've got Elysium.
Great movie with Matt Damon.
Done and done.
I don't understand how you don't understand.
dan friesen
Yeah, I do understand, though.
That's the problem.
jordan holmes
I think that is the problem.
dan friesen
I've listened to too much of his show.
jordan holmes
I think that is very much the problem.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I do not hate you because I do not understand, sir.
I hate you twice as much because I do.
dan friesen
Well, the issue is that when he's doing his, like, I tell you the big enchilada, and that kind of stuff, it's like, ah, this guy has access to...
Sure.
that he's not telling me.
Right.
unidentified
But when he actually just has these sentences and lays out, like, this is their plan, they're going to use Greek mythology.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
It's like, okay.
dan friesen
You're an idiot.
You're dumb.
As opposed to someone who's withholding some sort of mysterious wisdom that is maybe too much from my brain.
jordan holmes
Right.
And you could also always be like, well, you know, he was shitfaced.
If he wasn't shitfaced, he might be able to present it more rationally, but he wouldn't do it because he was rational.
So you'll never get the imaginary version that makes sense.
You'll only get the drunken version that's enjoyable to listen to.
dan friesen
Recognize that this is a little bit of a be careful what you wish for kind of thing, because I did constantly say that Alex needs to stop drinking so much.
And now we have what appears to be a sober Alex, and it sucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, listen, that is far from my first transition from a fun drunk to a sad sober.
But what you gonna do?
It's better for you.
dan friesen
So look.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The globalist plans?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Plato's plans.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
Don't say it's all Plato's plans.
That's insane!
dan friesen
Well, he wouldn't defend that.
jordan holmes
Okay, fair enough.
dan friesen
It felt good at the moment.
jordan holmes
It did feel good, yeah.
dan friesen
So they've been stopped.
The globalist plans are done.
And now it's time to take over space.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
If you expose that evil project, then they'll never be able to execute it because they've got to be operating in secret and posing as the saviors.
jordan holmes
Sounds true.
alex jones
During each successive intensification.
Of the strangulation.
And we've achieved that where they'll never get away with it now.
So they need to stop, be honest about it all, we've got to educate the public, come up with a new plan that is through free will and through adoption by the general public because it's the best plan, and we've got to colonize space immediately, we've got to be honest about the super technologies, and we've got to just move forward.
And that's what my mission is here.
And that's why I'm listening to...
By the bad guys and the good guys at the highest levels is because this is not a child's program here, okay?
This is for big boys.
jordan holmes
This is big boy talk.
alex jones
And I don't say that to our main audience or great people.
I say it to the left-wing people and the crazy, racist, right-wing people and all of you folks.
We're all going to kill each other if this doesn't stop.
dan friesen
This is big boy talk.
We need to colonize space.
I think that, you know...
Obviously, I only have an undergraduate degree.
I only have a bachelor's.
But I know that when I was in college, I never would have respected a professor who told me it was big boy talk.
I never would have taken that seriously.
I would have been like, you're overcompensating.
This is kind of inappropriate for context.
So when I hear Alex say that, I just really feel like it's not big boy talk.
When you say it's big boy talk, it can't be.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's little boy talk.
jordan holmes
I have heard big boy talk out of people who do science.
And I can't understand a word of it.
None at all.
None at all.
They just, oh, we're at the Large Hadron Collider.
It's 99.9% speed of light.
Cool.
Done.
And then if they get into big boy talk, I'm out.
dan friesen
This is like really defensive little boy talk.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Is what it is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's somebody who wishes that they thought that 99% light speed was the big boy talk.
dan friesen
It's little boy sci-fi talk.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That's fun.
I guess.
jordan holmes
I don't think it is.
dan friesen
No, it's not.
jordan holmes
I prefer big boy talk that I can't understand.
There's at least something fun in that where I'm like, oh, it's like listening to a foreign language.
I understood that word.
That's a cognate.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, Alex just wants us to not kill each other.
I think that's not.
Because if not, we will end up going the way of Plato's Atlantis.
jordan holmes
Oh my God.
alex jones
The Carnegie Endowment after World War I. That's supposed to be real.
First put out their internal report in late 1920.
The report began public by the mid-20s.
And they said, we can't have another war like World War I. We've got to come up with a plan to end all war.
And the Carnegie Endowment went out to a bunch of top scientists for a few years and they came back and said, you have to end the human condition as it is.
You have to end men and women.
You have to end men being competitive.
You have to end competition because you'll always get different power groups and structures that'll be basically on par with each other in competition because, you know, they'll rise to a level and then just like two bulls will want to fight for over who gets to mate with the cow, it goes to basic biology.
We will continue to have wars because that's the final extension of competition.
And so we have to go ahead and make men feminine and make women useless and just destroy society and go ahead and cull back most of the population, bare minimum, or civilization we've got out of control and we'll have an Atlantean-type situation where the technology gets distributed and then we blow each other up.
And so that...
But see, then...
They didn't even follow that plan.
So it's a lie.
jordan holmes
Why?
What?
You can't just say that.
alex jones
I'm going to get into all the fires, all the latest, all the angles.
jordan holmes
That's what?
alex jones
Everything.
So much other huge news today.
Trump's incredible.
Golden age of America, which means the golden age of the world.
It's that.
You've got to reach for the stars and of optimism and you'll do it.
Or we all just kill each other.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And the globalists that they can control that and have us low-level kill each other and collapse, and that that won't suck them in, not going to work.
So, we're going to go to break.
Start the next hour, but I thought it was important today just to explain how things really work.
And I've got a lot more to say, but I want to go through the technicals coming up next hour.
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dan friesen
Another truck to give a raffle in a truck.
Because things are good.
jordan holmes
That was, that clip feels similar to being hit by said truck.
That was very...
I mean, I went through the gamut there of all different types of anger.
No other feelings.
Just different types of fury.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The UN and the globalists and all of them put out this report that competition must end in order to not make Atlantis happen.
Or maybe that was some sci-fi shit that I read.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
And they were giving away a truck.
jordan holmes
There we go.
Nothing makes me angry about all of that.
Put all that together in a row.
No problems there.
dan friesen
What a fucking asshole.
jordan holmes
That is...
Contextually, that's worse.
It's so worse.
dan friesen
Silence comes back, and as promised, he gets back to the fires.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
And he's bringing Cloward and Piven back into it.
jordan holmes
Well, now that I've heard that, I trust that he's going to treat this with the same level of respect it deserves.
dan friesen
Quite a bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
It's all Cloward and Piven.
It's all done by design.
And Trump released a statement.
Governor Gavin Newsom refused to sign the water restoration declaration put before him that would have allowed millions of gallons of water from excess rain and snow melt from the north to flow daily into many parts of California, including the areas that are currently burning in a virtually apocalyptic way.
He wanted to protect an essentially worthless fish called a smelt that's not even indigenous, I should add.
By giving it less water, it didn't work.
Of course they weren't protecting the fish.
It was the excuse.
But didn't care about the people of California.
Now the ultimate price is being paid.
I will demand that this incompetent governor allow beautiful, clean, fresh water to flow into California.
He is to blame for this.
On top of it all, no water from fire hydrants, not fighting, not firefighting planes, a true disaster.
Yeah, people ask, I have the newscast, why aren't there firefighter planes they have all over the West?
And they said, oh, Biden's in town.
The airspace is closed.
Only commercial aircraft are allowed to fly, not emergency aircraft, of the government.
And so the reporters had to get on a plane flying out of California to even get the footage we have.
They have an administrative list of a few hundred things you've got to do to make sure it's this bad, and every one of them they perfectly did.
This is not incompetence.
This is perfect administrative warfare.
dan friesen
So Alex was just reading some dumb shit Trump posted on Truth Social, including an allegation that Governor Newsom refused to sign, quote, the water restoration declaration.
The governor's office responded in a statement saying, quote, There's no such document as the Water Restoration Declaration.
That is pure fiction.
What Trump is talking about is water being redirected from the north of the state, from the Bay Delta to the south, which has had very low rainfall.
Experts on the subject have been pretty clear that directing water from the north of the state to the south of the state would have no real effect on this firefighting effort.
This is all just playing politics.
Biden was in LA on January 7th to commemorate the opening of a couple monuments, so there was a restriction on the airspace around where he was.
However, this didn't apply to firefighting aircraft, who could still fly just as normal, coordinating with air traffic control.
The issue was really that flying was not always possible, because there were like 80 mile an hour winds.
When you have that kind of severe weather, you run into two problems with air-based responses.
The first is obviously that flying conditions are less safe, but the second is that you can't really deploy air-based solutions effectively.
If you drop water, it's going to be blown off target from where you're trying to get it.
It sucks, but in these conditions, at points, the aircraft option was more dangerous and less likely to be effective than just grounding the planes.
However, at other points, planes were flying around and dropping water and none of it had anything to do with Biden being in town.
This is all just Alex repeating bullshit to exploit the understandably strong feelings that people have around the fire.
And that's sad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That sucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is like...
There's this weird phenomena of being alive in 2025 where it feels like we've been through so many of these horrific events in the past 20 years that...
There are extremely competent people in all kinds of positions all over the place who have thought this through, man.
But it's also still okay to just be Alex Jones being like, they're a bunch of fucking idiots.
Nobody's done anything right.
They're people actually trying to destroy you.
And it's like, man...
The vaccine was built in a year!
You know, like, there's extreme competence all over the place.
dan friesen
Yeah, and if everybody had done everything exactly the way that Alex would have wanted in response for the fire, it would have been...
Some leftist set the fire.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
There would be some other way for him to exploit things, and it's not about competence.
It's about bottom feeding.
jordan holmes
And that is like, well, the response to this is never going to be like, oh, shit, these extremely competent people did a good job.
Let's listen to what they have to say to not be here again.
They're like, hey, thanks for your work.
We're going to continue doing the same dumb shit we've been doing.
Because clearly, Alex has a better point than I do.
I mean, it's...
dan friesen
Yeah, it's infuriating.
jordan holmes
It is infuriating.
dan friesen
But, you know, it's not.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
The Joker.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
That's why the left loves the Joker.
That's what they are.
They want to burn things.
They want to blow things up.
They want to hurt civilization.
They want to watch the world collapse.
That's the Great Reset.
That's the WF.
That's the nihilistic rule order.
You look at their prototype, the French Revolution.
This is in the PhD-level political science where they teach the real political system of the world.
Where does left come from?
Well, it wasn't ever used as a political description until the French Revolution.
Right after ours.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck me.
dan friesen
This is not PhD stuff.
jordan holmes
This is the way it really works.
alex jones
The Illuminati sent his letters.
That's a real thing, not just pop culture.
And they wanted a nine-day week.
They wanted to end the family, and they wanted to destroy civilization.
And then that became communism.
If you look up the Jacobins and the history of communism, that's where it comes from.
And the left today is the Jacobin movement.
And so, you go watch a movie like The Joker and you go, why would he want to do all this?
Well, he's a psychotic.
And he's miserable.
And he wants to make you miserable.
But...
That's the attitude of their minions and their operatives.
On top of them are the really evil people that want to destroy civilization and pose as the saviors to control it and vertically integrate it.
dan friesen
Like Harley Quinn.
alex jones
So, do you want the Joker to be our example of civilization, which will mean we won't have one, or do you want Batman?
jordan holmes
I don't want Batman.
alex jones
If the rich aristocracy, real aristocrats who in the old aristocratic system were trying to build civilization were Swain or the Joker.
See, everything in Hollywood is telling you what they're doing.
They think you're stupid.
And now who's the hero in their movies?
The Joker's the good guy now.
jordan holmes
When?
alex jones
So where is an aristocracy that wants to not blow the earth up?
Donald Trump?
Ron Musk is the old style of the Renaissance, which is the new style, aristocracy.
dan friesen
So Alex continues to fail his media literacy test, jumping from adolescent and young adult sci-fi over to comic books.
He, like, legitimately couldn't sound stupider if he tried.
The term left as well as right, as political labels do start with the French Revolution, they had to do with where people sat in the National Assembly, with the supporters of the monarchy sitting on the right and the people who were more opposed to the royals on the left.
So seating arrangements in the French National Assembly led to the creation of Jacobins and communism because they tried to make a nine-day week and destroy the family.
And you like the Joker.
jordan holmes
Whatever.
dan friesen
He's your hero.
jordan holmes
Fine.
dan friesen
You love the Joker.
jordan holmes
Like, it doesn't matter what the...
The divide exists.
Outside of whether or not you believe it is the left or...
It could be the right or the left.
It doesn't mean anything.
It's about the divide.
dan friesen
But it's PhD stuff to know where the term comes from.
It's PhD stuff also to understand that the world is either the Wayne family or the Joker.
These are the only things that are options.
I think that maybe a more sophisticated analysis of a lot of Batman literature is to say that neither are good.
And that is a point that is driven by a lot of the content.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That the Joker represents a system that is not good.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And the system that the Waynes tried to perpetuate, though well-meaning in many ways, leads to the creation of supervillains.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
I don't know if Alex thinks.
jordan holmes
You know, I think one of the things that's interesting about it is I do think that there is something to be said about his sci-fi, but not at all in the way that he's describing anything like that.
But the way that sci-fi always has this element of reducing...
Groups to characters.
And so there's main characters and then there's just the people.
So in most sci-fi, because you're dealing with vast interstellar distances, you can't have everybody has a character.
Everybody has a name.
dan friesen
Oh, sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so you wind up creating a system wherein there are real people who are characters and that's who's important.
So, in Alex's conception now, we need aristocracy to grow the thing.
That doesn't mean that aristocracy governs well or anything like that.
What he means is that the main characters can kill as many of the poor people as they want, so long as main characters proliferate.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know, and that's kind of the problem with sci-fi, is not so much the government aspect of it, but the dehumanization aspect of it.
Removing people as people, and only having, like, eventually...
God damn it, if you read any modern sci-fi, there's a fucking...
Royal in everything.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
It's infuriating.
dan friesen
But I think that there's another aspect to Alex's sci-fi stuff that I feel like we should probably touch on and explain, which is that it often does mirror real-world dynamics.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that they have to.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because you have to make things relatable.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And science fiction, by its definition, involves things that you can't relate to.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So in order to give the reader something that connects to something they can understand.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
A real science fiction novel should be unreadable.
unidentified
It should be in glyphs that you can't interpret.
jordan holmes
If you watch Star Wars, the ship battles are ship battles.
They're in an ocean.
Not like they can move in any direction they want with limitations based on blah blah blah.
The speeders are in dogfights.
Not like three-dimensional gravity defying everything along these lines.
dan friesen
Aliens talk to each other.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
And then us!
Like, that's fine.
dan friesen
Yeah, because...
And I think that Alex misunderstands some of those things being relatable to human stuff as being like...
jordan holmes
A plan.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what they're trying to turn us all into, as opposed to, we're trying to have something.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think he's dumb.
jordan holmes
I think so, too.
dan friesen
But also, he's a real bootlicker.
And you can tell that through this...
jordan holmes
That's a dangerous combination.
Dumb and bootlicking and famous?
That's no good.
dan friesen
Trump and Elon Musk are Bruce Wayne's parents and shit.
It's crazy.
alex jones
So do we want conquest-based society or renaissance-based society?
Do you want golden age or do you want dark age?
jordan holmes
Who do you think paid for the renaissance?
alex jones
Those are the two paths.
Those are the two.
And you have to know how the world works.
You have to be engaged to build a golden age.
jordan holmes
Don't.
alex jones
And then because a golden age produces so much freedom and property and innovation, you've got to not give your kids everything.
You've got to have hard competition.
You've got to be in shape.
You've got to be in sports.
You've got to be well-read.
You've got to be intellectual.
You've got to have historic understanding.
Or you will create decadent slob children and then the parasites will come in to the future generations and take over and you go back to warlords.
jordan holmes
That fast?
alex jones
And Trump is the ultimate example with his kids that are amazing of having all that wealth and all that power and producing very good children.
jordan holmes
Oh my God.
alex jones
Elon Musk gets it.
And so I admire that.
Because they're prime examples of the leaders we need as examples to us.
That's what we're talking about here.
Do you want Batman or do you want the Joker?
It really comes down to that.
Do you want Batman heading up the ship or do you want the Joker and his gang?
It's that simple, people.
jordan holmes
Is it?
alex jones
I mean, look at...
unidentified
George Soros.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
So, I just think that this...
I don't know how else to, like, really sum it up other than, like, this is disappointing.
unidentified
I mean...
dan friesen
He's rounding off some edges of himself to fall in line and be sort of obsequious to Trump and Elon Musk.
Yeah.
I think that makes him so much less interesting.
I don't think that Sandy Hook and his behavior around that can kill his legacy.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
In terms of him being this, like, you know, the next generation of Bill Cooper.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
You know, I think that, obviously, to right-thinking people and people who care, it hurts his legacy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it doesn't really hurt it within the conspiracy community and all that shit.
I think him doing this kind of stuff, it makes him really soft and not a renegade at all.
And I think that sucks for him.
jordan holmes
Okay, so removing the comic book and stuff, and let's go to a different genre of movie.
It makes sense if you think Trump is a Morton Joe, right?
And you're the spokesperson.
Because in this situation, there's like 10 people who get to drink water.
So it's like, yeah, I want to be one of the guys who drink water.
We are not in that scenario.
Yet.
But this is bad.
dan friesen
No, no.
What Alex is doing makes sense if you think Trump's Hitler.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This makes total sense.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
If you are scared for your life or something.
jordan holmes
But not if you think he's Stalin, in which case, Alex, you're getting removed from the picture, buddy.
You're not going to make it out of that picture alive.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's interesting the kind of maneuver that he's trying to make.
Whatever it is, it seems sad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I don't respect it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was thinking the other day, like, I feel a bit like an Italian fisherman during Mussolini's rise just, like, on the dock somewhere, and it's a nice day for me somehow, but I'm looking over and I'm like, this whole place is going to hell.
I don't know what to tell you.
Inflation's out of control.
I don't know what to do, you know?
Yeah.
dan friesen
I just, I...
unidentified
And he's just...
dan friesen
Boring.
He's talking about how Trump's Batman and the alternative is the Joker and how we all love the Joker so much.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
And it's still just like, ugh.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're gonna have to put some face paint on if you want to pull this one off.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, and you know who really embodies Heath Ledger's Joker?
jordan holmes
Who?
dan friesen
Klaus Schwab.
You know?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Two peas in a pod.
jordan holmes
Couldn't be more like the Joker.
dan friesen
So Alex has been given God's blessing to...
Take over space.
alex jones
Okay.
And to them, they think people like you and me are dumb because we're not predators.
No, we're smart, buddy.
If we tried to be predators, we'd be a lot better than you.
We are good people.
We build civilization, you damn snake.
You are a parasite, jackass.
We like to have a civilization where people are strong and healthy and good because we believe in ourselves and we believe in others and we are so dominant that we aren't threatened by other people doing well.
We want our children and our future children to live in a world with other good people they can marry and live with and have children.
We believe in our species.
We are the leaders.
You are the enemy.
jordan holmes
We are the dreamers of dreams.
alex jones
We are civilization.
We are the inheritors of God's providence.
We have been given the manifest destiny.
jordan holmes
There's no way of knowing.
alex jones
The heavens.
You are the problem.
dan friesen
So yeah, God has given Alex and his dipshit friends the mandate and inheritance to colonize the stars.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Jesus Christ.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
Yeah, yeah.
You know that mandate of heaven?
That one goes back a long way.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
People have been getting the mandate of heaven for a lot of stuff over the years.
I'm starting to think that they're not always telling the truth about it.
dan friesen
See, here's the issue.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Not with the mandate of heaven thing.
I totally agree with what you're saying.
jordan holmes
You're right.
There is the mandate of heaven on what you're saying.
dan friesen
I'm crystallizing this point.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And Alex is...
Dumb shit like this.
God has chosen us to...
I don't even like hearing you repeat it.
I'm fighting against the spirit of the Joker and Trump is Batman.
All this stuff, it kind of needs to come from someone who seems nuts.
It needs to because it's nuts.
So when he's out here like...
Seemingly tortured by the burden of the information that he's carrying.
Like some kind of a Lovecraftian protagonist.
unidentified
Like, it makes sense for him to seem nuts.
Yeah.
dan friesen
When he's just delivering this kind of normally, it doesn't hit.
jordan holmes
I think it goes back to something that we've kind of hit on a bunch of times, which is, you know, when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro kind of thing.
Before, sounding crazy while looking professional was the trick because it felt like that was almost a dark commentary on how crazy everything was while people still tried to act like it was normal.
Now everything's fucking nuts and he is not stepping up his game.
He's not!
He should be the Joker at this point, right?
dan friesen
I think so.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I think that this is what I just get the sense of and what I feel.
I don't have anything to base this on, but I just get the sense of him realizing that he can make a lot of money with his AlexJonesStore.com and all of these little shells that he's set up and ways to avoid the bankruptcy and all that.
But it's not that much.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He can make a good amount of money, but he's also pretty adjacent to the power structure that is ascendant and going to be coming in.
He's close enough to Elon Musk.
He's had the guy who sounds like him on the show a couple times.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think he's making a pitch.
I feel like he's trying to do a job interview or something like that.
That's what it feels like.
unidentified
Well, that does make sense.
dan friesen
I just don't think it works.
It's not a good fit.
jordan holmes
Here's what I feel like I would do if I was Alex.
I would try and go the drug kingpin on the run way.
I don't own anything in my own name.
But I have so much attachment.
Everybody around me is throwing around millions of dollars like it's pennies.
He can live on the best life without anybody even knowing it's his shit.
unidentified
What is he doing this for?
dan friesen
I think he has no joie de vivre.
jordan holmes
I think you might be right.
There's just nothing he's got to live for.
dan friesen
No!
Except space.
Fighting against Batman.
jordan holmes
No matter how many times you tell us how great your kids are, you have to spend time with them to prove that you love them.
dan friesen
Anyway.
Alex goes on to talk about how these fires, they're like that ERCOT failure.
jordan holmes
The one that was totally because of the globalists.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When there was that blizzard in Texas.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I remember that one.
dan friesen
And then he gets off track.
alex jones
Administrative murder.
And then it was like three years ago in Texas.
Under the federal laws and regulations that Biden put in.
The states are told, and the power collectives, most of them private, but they're all in collectives, are caught here in Texas.
It supplies three states pretty much completely.
Total gives power to five other states.
And they said, five days before, the governor sent a letter to the feds and said, we need you to give us an emergency authorization to up power at our coal plants and natural gas.
We got this blue norther coming.
They said, nope.
We'll give you a million dollar an hour fines.
An hour.
For anybody that ups the power, and they feed into the collective grid, and will also consider criminal charges if you do.
So they let the Blue Norther come in, almost all the power went off the first day, and then two days into the blackouts, they said, okay, you can up power now.
Because imagine, you're the globalist, you've got all these controls, and you can just flip off the power here, flip off the power there, let fires get out of control here.
You can defund the police everywhere and then have the city councils hire their own private security, like in the case of many different areas around the nation, like Minneapolis and St. Paul.
And it's all just a flagrant, raw, insane exercise of power.
And again, it doesn't matter where you are in Europe.
Australia, the UK.
I mean, it came out that in Europe proper and Australia in the last few days, that they have the exact same policies where an illegal alien migrant rapes a child.
They don't charge them because they would be deported, and according to their regulations, it's not even a law, they've decided it's immoral to deport an illegal, so they're allowed to rape.
Here it is.
Victoria magistrates taught to give light sentences to avoid having criminal migrants deported.
I have the newscast, it's in the biggest newspapers, and they're saying it's good!
dan friesen
So Alex's retelling of what happened with the Texas snowstorm is completely false.
That is just an entirely fictitious retelling of events that's filtered through this weird Infowars prism that none of that's accurate.
But also, what does this have to do with the deportation policies of Australia?
Why do we jump from...
So Alex is reading a headline about some reports about a presentation at a judicial professional development meeting that discussed ways to avoid deportation being an additional penalty people might face on top of jail time.
The article Alex is talking about includes commentary from a former Victorian Supreme Court justice named Kevin Bell, who said, quote, So if this training creates the appearance that a particular outcome, that is, that offenders likely to deportation must be given a light sentence, I think that's very unlikely it would be followed.
The Judicial College of Victoria already includes a recognition that the possibility of someone being deported can make a sentence more onerous and reflects an additional consideration for a magistrate, but that doesn't mean that they have to give immigrants lower sentences.
Their manual is clear.
This depends on the personal circumstances of the offender, and a court should not consider the possibility of deportation as a mitigatory factor unless it will actually be a hardship for the offender.
Moreover, it will be given limited weight in cases where the offending is particularly serious.
This very article that Alex is using as his source quotes the manual, saying that it is, quote, error for a sentence in court to artificially lower a sentence in order to avoid the consequences of the Migration Act.
This is all a bunch of bullshit, but it's also a tangent.
This doesn't mean anything.
He's talking about energy issues, and then he just jumps off into an entirely other...
Flagrant, emotionally charged subject that he's mishandling the information around.
It's just fucking bullshit.
jordan holmes
It's like a karate movie.
And the part where the guy suddenly drops down and does the spin kick and trips you.
Like, that's what it felt like.
It felt like he was talking to me and then all of a sudden I was on the ground on my back.
Like, what the fuck just happened here?
I've been tripped, you very good at karate man.
Except for he's bad at it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it feels more like that Indiana Jones moment.
jordan holmes
Oh, where he's doing all the ha-ha-ha-ha-ha, and then you shoot him.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it's reversed.
jordan holmes
But it's reversed.
dan friesen
Like, as the villain shoots the Indiana Jones.
jordan holmes
But also the villain is doing a bunch of stuff with the gun at the same time.
dan friesen
And then Batman's there.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly!
dan friesen
Everyone likes a Joker.
jordan holmes
He is the villain, and he's Indiana Jones and the guy, and the giant guy getting chopped up by the plane.
Let's put it all together.
dan friesen
So, Biden...
jordan holmes
How is this possibly his fault?
dan friesen
Well, he wants people to not fight fires.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
That sounds true.
alex jones
Biden is in California.
The zombie, the crib keeper.
And he's sitting there with Air Force One and all the rest of the aircraft that follow him around.
A bunch of presidential Ospreys, you name it.
And he's just sitting there today and they're impeding any of the emergency air traffic aircraft that's on the news still.
From going in and fighting the fires while the airplane sits there.
Every administrative thing they can do, like Nero reportedly sat and watched Rome burn after he started the fires.
jordan holmes
That was Plato's plan, actually.
alex jones
That's on record in Roman histories.
Commercial flights are allowed to fly, so the news had to get up and take flights to other cities.
Because they're emergency choppers.
Everything is not allowed to be in the air because his lordship is there.
If Trump was there, obviously the president, he would have instantly lifted the flight map.
But Biden doesn't give a crap.
And they've been talking about this flight control since yesterday afternoon.
And here we are the next day.
There's the flight restriction map on screen for TV viewers.
And it's funny to them.
They're like, well, they're just idiots.
No, they're not.
dan friesen
So, I'll be perfectly honest with you.
This was not the end of the episode, but this is where I was like, fuck you.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I was done.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is a lot.
dan friesen
Because, I mean, like, you're just passing along bad information about this fire and creating sensationalism and nonsense while at the same time explaining...
That science fiction movies and books are real, and it's the plots of my enemies, and you gotta be a Joker or Batman.
unidentified
Yep.
All this, it's just, it's stupid.
Yeah.
dan friesen
It was just stupid.
And, I don't know how else to put this.
It's a fucking weasel.
Like, this is so pathetic.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's, like, I think in 2016...
He was less of, like, a pathetic entity than this.
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
We've been through this already.
Trump dropped the mother of all bums and they shoved ISIS up our dirty assholes.
We've already been over this.
He had a failure of an administration that was infested with globalists and all this.
He had to make excuses for four fucking years and then pretend that he won the election in 2020 secretly.
Like, we've already done this.
jordan holmes
Stop it.
dan friesen
Stop pretending that he's like...
A model of an Adonis who knows how to raise kids.
This is just...
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There's a lot of reruns on the screen these days.
I'm not stoked about that.
It feels like everybody is like...
I don't know.
We can't change the channel.
I guess we're just watching reruns.
Fuck!
dan friesen
I find that unacceptable.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
And I think we need to do whatever we can to not be in that.
And if Alex insists on being in reruns and pretending that the last eight years didn't happen, I'm not saying I'm not going to listen to him, but I'm going to be more hostile, I think.
jordan holmes
I think that's a good call.
I think that is a good call.
dan friesen
This makes me really mad.
jordan holmes
I think that's a good call.
dan friesen
I just can't hear...
I can't...
I cannot hear someone calmly explain to me that sci-fi is real while trying to exploit tragedy that is affecting people we know and friends of friends.
It's just...
Fuck off, dude.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
Get bent.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
We'll check in and see if his tune changes a little bit or if we get back to catastrophic contagion being released on us or if the Ebola comes out of Denver or if the aliens arrive.
jordan holmes
Get some new storylines, man.
dan friesen
He tried.
No, that's not the problem.
That's not the problem.
He gets too many new storylines.
jordan holmes
It's the worst part.
Yes, exactly.
dan friesen
Anyway, we'll be back.
Until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep, we'll be back.
dan friesen
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
jordan holmes
Woo!
unidentified
Yeah!
Woo!
Yeah!
Woo!
steve quayle
And now, here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
andy in kansas
Alex, I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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