January 8, 2025’s Knowledge Fight dissects Alex Jones’ wildfire conspiracy theories—blaming Democrats for "rewilding" and the 1992 Rio UN treaty—while debunking his claims about canceled policies and Newsom’s fictional "Water Restoration Declaration." Jones pivots to a dystopian Hunger Games narrative, citing H.G. Wells and Isaac Asimov, before promoting his Ford Tremor truck sweepstakes. The hosts mock his comic-book allegories (Joker vs. Batman) and repetitive, fact-free rants, exposing his pattern of attributing disasters to malice rather than systemic competence, like rapid vaccine development. Ultimately, Jones’ escalating absurdity reveals a desperate bid for relevance, blending old grievances with new, unhinged fantasies. [Automatically generated summary]
And I also, because I saw this can, I reflected on how long it's been since I've watched one of them and how much I enjoyed it, you know, a number of years back.
But, you know, this is the day after the fires in California spread a great deal, so we're going to hear some of Alex's coverage of that, which is good.
President Trump is inaugurated in less than 12 days.
And I want to be 100% clear about what's happening in California right now with 11 days, 23 hours, 56 minutes, 42. Seconds.
It's not like I'm going to come on the show today and blame the government of California and the Democrats and their policies just because I feel like it.
We've been exposing this on my show for at least 25 years.
And the different Great Reset, rewilding, post-industrial, Rio de Janeiro, UN 1992 treaty.
That...
Is doing this all over the Western world.
By direct policies, what you saw in Lahaina a few years ago, in Maui, what you're seeing now is where, starting in the mid-90s, any leftist-controlled city, including now in Europe, got rid of thousands of years of human understanding.
We're even in ancient cultures, the Romans, the ancient Gauls in what's France today, the Germans, people in China did this.
Africans do it around their villages.
You cut the brush back for a long way around your village, around your town.
You build fire breaks so that when fires come, they don't jump across and burn down your town.
But starting in the mid-90s, they stopped cutting the brush.
So it's possible that there could have been some advantages to having increased fire breaks in California, but most people who have looked at the current fire don't think it would have really helped that much.
In theory, maybe you would have been able to create more staging area for firefighters, but like...
Fire containment and prevention requires limiting a fire's ability to spread by controlling for one of the important fire variables.
Cutting fire breaks is a strategy that's aimed at minimizing the amount of fuel a fire has, which will make it less able to expand in a given direction.
If you have a big fire and it encounters a complete wall of things that can't burn, it will eventually run out of fuel, and that's one good approach for fire prevention.
In the case of the California fires, though, this really isn't a great strategy because the fires are spread less by an abundance of fuel and more by the wind.
In order to have effective firebreaks around residential areas, you'd need to cut like a mile of vegetation around them, and it just isn't something that's environmentally responsible.
Winds were like 80 miles an hour while the fire was initially spreading, so no matter the size of the firebreak you cut, embers could easily jump them and spawn new fires.
There are variables to take into account about how we can be better prepared for the next fire, but this just isn't an angle that makes sense to take.
This is a tragedy, and Alex is doing what he always does, which is exploit that tragedy for profit.
But actually, I think the first volley here isn't that bad.
I don't know what you want out of this other than to say, like, I think if you're LA, you're not worried about political party, and you're just looking at the past 40 years of people in charge, and you're going, there were things we could have done better.
Well, I think you're probably also looking around and seeing a bunch of people who need your help, and you need their help, and I think probably a lot of that, what about fire breaks, is probably not as important.
We can have what Trump calls the dawn of America's golden age or...
We can have the globalist post-industrial civilizational collapse by design, where civilization, as you know, it is over by 2030.
And then the people that orchestrated cutting off the food, the energy, the fertilizer, the infrastructure, point at the disaster and say, see, global warming caused all this.
Global warming is going to cause these new viruses to come and kill you.
And then they cook the viruses up in labs.
And, oh, the virus caused 80-something million extra people the last five years to starve to death.
No, the lockdowns from the virus did it on record.
So when they get up there and tell you the end of the world as you know it is 2030 and that it's because of man-made climate change, then you read deeper into their own documents, the UN, the WF, the Club of Rome, the CFR, all of them.
They say they are cutting off the industrial system to carry the population of 8.5 billion people.
And then they intend to use the crises because every time in all the studies, any country, no matter whether you're in Africa, Asia, Europe, the Americas, people are all the same.
50% of somebody's income gets spent on food and energy.
When you hit that point, you start getting high crime, civil unrest.
These are his numbers he's pulling out of his ass because he wants to scare the audience and present a reality where you have to support everything Trump does or risk getting eaten by cannibals.
Interestingly, according to the USDA, American homes spend 11.2% of their income on food in 2023, which was unchanged from 2022 and actually significantly down from about 15% in the 80s.
A recent report by the American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy found that, quote, on average, low-income households spend 17.8% of their income on energy bills and transportation fuel, more than three times the national average.
So if we take that 11.2% of income spent on food and add the highest energy cost of 17.8%, which is three times the national average, you end up with 29%.
That's still high, and I'm not trying to say that there's no problem there, but even using these as average numbers, we're pretty far from the territory that Alex is describing.
So he's saying that 50% you get civil unrest and high crime, but he's trying to present a world where there's massive amounts of crime, cities are burning constantly, not from wildfires, but from arson and Antifa.
I think what I find fascinating about this is that in his terms, It would make more sense for all of us to pitch in to make sure people who have to spend more money on food and energy don't have to spend as much money on food and energy so they don't eat us.
Not the first time governments did this, but it put it into a cosmology and a political formula in the 1970s by two communist professors, Cloward and Piven, the Cloward and Piven strategy, and they said, we will overtake the social safety network and get people addicted to it and crank it up so high to make people dependent.
And within a generation, we'll collapse America and blame capitalism and on its ashes bring in total communism.
And what did Ezekiel Emanuel say on Fox News 10 years ago?
And others, he said, oh, Obamacare was always meant to triple prices and collapse the old system and bring in a government system.
But it'll still be run by big corporations that make the profit.
They just socialize the profit for themselves and privatize the debt to you.
When you see the fires all over the Western world, Lahaina, years ago in Maui, and you look at what really happened there, and you look at what's happening in Los Angeles right now, at every level, at every step of the way, this is not mismanagement.
This is perfect administrative, economic, industrial sabotage.
So Cloward and Piven were two academics who put forth a theory in the 1960s.
Their basic point was that the way that the current welfare state was designed was inherently meant to not address the problem of poverty, but to put a band-aid on it.
There are tons of social safety net type programs that people are eligible for, but the state actively dissuades them from knowing that they're eligible for them and tries to make them reluctant to sign up for these programs.
They theorize that if massive welfare drives were organized, then people who were eligible for public assistance would be more likely to sign up for the help that they needed.
In the process, it would create a burden that the existing welfare system could not handle because the idea that it's actually meant to handle that is an illusion.
And that's an illusion that we understand and can maintain because the system hasn't been crushed by people getting the aid that they're eligible for.
By having people sign up for the assistance they were eligible for, but the state could not provide, the welfare system would collapse.
And from that collapse would come the need to redesign what we consider welfare.
The hope was that the pressure that this would apply would revolutionize how we dealt with poverty and ideally would bring about some form of universal guaranteed income.
This didn't happen, but because it's an attack on the existing welfare state that's rooted in a desire to actually help and provide more assistance to the poor, it's the scariest thing for people on Alcina.
I live in an area that has these big fire breaks put in by the fire department, by the county, because I live on the edge of the city.
And it's nothing but neighborhoods there, so you never see big crowds on the green belt there on Barton Creek.
When you get closer to the town, you'll see thousands of people walking around.
It's beautiful.
But where I live, there's just nobody there.
You might see one person every few months when I go walk down there almost every day.
Beautiful creek, cliffs, hills.
But there's huge 50-foot-wide roads all the way down it, all the way out through the county.
And it's got fire department little signs in the middle of the neighborhood where they come in and fire hydrants.
Because if there's ever a big wildfire and it's coming through, they've got to stop it there.
It's a firebreak.
Now, Texas hadn't been completely taken over by the globalists.
But there have been city council proposals to cut the funding and for the county and the city and to stop maintaining firebreaks, which are not expensive to do compared to the cost of the fires.
So when we get dry weather, we get high winds, and the fires come in.
They rarely destroy houses.
Because they run into fire breaks, fire mitigation.
So, the U.N. proposed in the 70s.
They became a treaty in 1992.
Rio de Janeiro, Earth Summit.
Agenda 2021.
Too late.
And it said, we are not going to touch, and it's got thousands of things they're going to do, but amongst it, we're going to destroy the dams.
We're to deny farmers water, and we're not going to mar the earth with fire mitigation.
They actually even say make more dams than destroy the dams.
Alex is just making all this up and then pointing to the prop that he's created that's labeled Agenda 21. He does this when he name drops Cloward and Piven or the Club of Rome.
There's no actual information being conveyed here, and he's not even really citing a source.
It's more deflection than a citation at all.
And also, Texas has had plenty of fires.
Alex just ignores them in order to maintain this illusion.
Last year, there was the Smokehouse Creek Fire, which burned over 850,000 acres in 48 hours and would go on to spread to Oklahoma and over 1 million total acres of coverage, killing two people.
That was the largest wildfire in Texas history, but I guess it probably only happened because Beto O 'Rourke did fine at the polls.
Two months ago, all the major insurance companies...
Started pulling almost everybody's insurance in the key areas, and people are now noticing, wait, it's even the areas of all the dozens of fires in different parts of L.A. in the last 48 hours.
Now, I'm not saying the Democrats went around and set all the fires, though, back when they were trying to kick Trump out of office four years ago, Antifa got arrested all over the country, all over Canada.
Lighting fires and it would barely make the national news.
And when it only made local news, people would try to post it on Facebook or X when it was Twitter and they'd be blocked.
They arrested hundreds of leftists setting fires all over the country.
This is all a load of bullshit, but it would be really fun for Alex to try to substantiate some of these claims.
Like, I want to see the paper trail of these Hollywood payments that were given out to, like, thousands of leftists to start fires to create bad vibes for Trump.
There's a certain kind of pathetic that Alex embodies where every event that happens just has to be filtered through this prism.
This can't just be a huge tragic fire.
He needs to use it as fuel for his own fire, which is all about how everything is an attack on Trump and by proxy himself.
I was curious about this insurance conspiracy that Alex was talking about, and it turns out that Alex is just repeating something that his mortal enemy Kamala Harris said recently.
Quote, Yeah.
It feels like his audience would find that context interesting.
Alex is playing these games because the angle that he wants the audience to come away with is that these fires were set on purpose as part of an elaborate conclusion.
Yeah.
What happened here is not that insurance companies have canceled all these policies in advance of the fires that they're planning to set.
It's that insurance companies are businesses that seek to maximize profits.
It's been an existing problem that homeowners insurance in California is super expensive for people to get because a lot of companies can't profit off it.
California is a state with some decent consumer protection regulations, so the insurance companies are limited in what rates they can charge.
And given that the risk is fairly high in California with the incidences of fires and earthquakes, insurance companies know that insuring homes in the state has the potential to lose them a lot of money.
So State Farm announced last March that they wouldn't renew approximately 72,000 existing policies in California and stop selling new homeowners insurance policies in the state.
It was not profitable for them as a business, so they chose not to do it.
Now, there's been a big fire, and the ability to exploit this decision is there, so you see people like Alex weaving a conspiracy out of it.
But if you'd asked them a couple months ago when this wasn't as hot a topic, why would they have any problem with State Farm choosing to do this?
Or with any insurance company deciding where they want to do business and where they feel they can't make a profit doing that?
Are insurance companies supposed to be benevolent, self-sacrificing entities that exist outside of a profit motive?
Definitely not to Alex.
Absent a giant fire to exploit emotionally, Alex would strongly defend an insurance company's right to do business how they want.
In California, it's illegal for them to cancel a policy while it's active for no reason, but what authority should force an insurance company to re-enter existing policies, or enter new ones that they don't want to?
Alex's ideology hits a brick wall here because he has no answer for this.
Insurance companies abandoning people when they can if it looks costly to provide the actual product they sell is the free market that he supports.
And it's absolutely ludicrous to imagine Alex containing these positions.
I understand that it is really, really monstrous right now to defend the actions of these insurance companies canceling these policies because people who were affected by it maybe now don't have insurance and their house burned down.
So the fire chief in Los Angeles is a woman named Kristen Crowley, who is a lesbian.
So this has naturally become a point of attack for the folks on the right who are definitely not primarily motivated by their deep-seated bigotries.
When Crowley said that the whole water thing wasn't her job, she's right.
That is a higher-up, the latter state government issue that isn't part of her job.
As she put it, quote, when a firefighter comes to a hydrant, we expect there's going to be water.
Crowley is the first fire chief in LA who's a member of the LGBTQ community and the first female to hold that position as well.
She'd been a firefighter for 22 years when she was appointed in 2022, and a part of the backdrop of what was going on at the time was that the previous chief, Ralph Terrazas, had recently gotten into some trouble about allegations that he'd allowed a, quote, pervasive, racist, and sexist culture to exist within the LA Fire Department.
Great.
The president of the Los Angeles Women in the Fire Department There were multiple reports of sexual assault and rape occurring at firehouses, and many felt that these reports were not handled seriously enough.
In October 2021, the LAS released an investigation that found that there was endemic hazing and harassment that were directed at female firefighters in the department and that the institution did not seem all that interested in addressing it.
The accounts they uncovered, along with the push from the L.A. women in the fire service group, led to a little bit of public pressure to stop ignoring this shit.
So Tarazis retired, and Crowley was elevated to this position.
When she came into the role, she spoke about a lot of improvements she'd like to make to the department, including but not limited to addressing this culture of harassment that women and minority recruits had to endure.
Naturally, the right wing, who are definitely not just fundamentally bigots, took this as an attack on white men, and now Alex doesn't even consider.
her a person, but a DEI hire.
So this just feels like a right-wing grievance checklist that we've gone down.
We've got the fire breaks storyline.
We've got the Cloward and Piven.
We've got the Agenda 21. We've got the attacking the left, attacking homeless people, attacking LGBTs.
The Fabian Socialist, H.G. Wells, was the head of their society.
Back in the...
Earlier 20th century, first parts of that.
He wrote more nonfiction books than fiction.
And he said, I put in my fiction books allegories of what's really happening.
Like the time machine.
They're the Morlocks, we're the Eloi.
And one of his protégés, because they had their Nebula Awards and all the rest of it, where they would push members of their futurists.
Transhumanist cult to make sure they were the top science fiction writers so that they could get their ideas into the culture through entertainment to pre-program people with predictive programming is what it's called.
And if you read the Foundation series of Isaac Asimov and they've made a TV show on Netflix I watched a little bit of it but it was just too woke version of it so I just couldn't watch more than a few episodes.
In it, they've done the math with their supercomputers in the 20th century.
This books are written in the 50s.
The early 21st century is when it's set.
And they decide this cult to create a breakaway civilization and then sabotage civilization and short-circuit it.
Because in their permutations, then it allows civilization to survive in the long run, but if they don't derail it up front, then it will race forward, go intergalactic, but then collapse.
Interstellar, intergalactic.
Now, then you go read another member of their cult, Arthur C. Clarke's books.
So you can handpick the top people in the sci-fi world.
Isaac Asimov's Foundation series gives away the globalist plans, but the TV version was too woke for Alex to watch.
The Nebula Awards were started in 1966.
Yup!
Run by the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers Association, which wasn't founded by H.G. Wells.
Yep, I knew that.
art until 1953 and also had nothing to do with H.G. Wells.
I'm pretty convinced Alex has these mixed up because Foundation didn't win a Nebula, but the original trilogy won Best All-Time Series in 1966 at the Hugo Awards.
He was an outsider in the same way that you, like, slam your shoulder through a door, and everybody's like, please get out of here, and you're like, I'm L. Ron Hubbard!
Then you go read another member of their cult, Arthur C. Clarke's books, and it's all the same stuff.
We gotta have a world government, we gotta kill everybody.
We can't have free market competition.
It'll create too many competing technological bases.
And those technological bases will then war with each other in the future.
And so we have to have a total tyranny to get rid of most people and create kind of a Hunger Games world where you have very small, compact, high-tech city-states and everybody else that's allowed to live.
In small numbers, are agrarian and basically kept artificially like Amish.
And then we're seeing, those of us that are allowed to survive, as a nature preserve.
So you have the Elysium fields of the demigod elites who then will transcend to an Olympian level of godhood once they achieve immortality through technology.
And then they will leave a few of us as wild humans, and then just like in the Greek legends, they'll land in their ship or whatever, and we'll think they're Zeus, and they'll come out in a white outfit and have sex with our women and do whatever they want.
Recognize that this is a little bit of a be careful what you wish for kind of thing, because I did constantly say that Alex needs to stop drinking so much.
And now we have what appears to be a sober Alex, and it sucks.
And we've achieved that where they'll never get away with it now.
So they need to stop, be honest about it all, we've got to educate the public, come up with a new plan that is through free will and through adoption by the general public because it's the best plan, and we've got to colonize space immediately, we've got to be honest about the super technologies, and we've got to just move forward.
And that's what my mission is here.
And that's why I'm listening to...
By the bad guys and the good guys at the highest levels is because this is not a child's program here, okay?
The Carnegie Endowment after World War I. That's supposed to be real.
First put out their internal report in late 1920.
The report began public by the mid-20s.
And they said, we can't have another war like World War I. We've got to come up with a plan to end all war.
And the Carnegie Endowment went out to a bunch of top scientists for a few years and they came back and said, you have to end the human condition as it is.
You have to end men and women.
You have to end men being competitive.
You have to end competition because you'll always get different power groups and structures that'll be basically on par with each other in competition because, you know, they'll rise to a level and then just like two bulls will want to fight for over who gets to mate with the cow, it goes to basic biology.
We will continue to have wars because that's the final extension of competition.
And so we have to go ahead and make men feminine and make women useless and just destroy society and go ahead and cull back most of the population, bare minimum, or civilization we've got out of control and we'll have an Atlantean-type situation where the technology gets distributed and then we blow each other up.
And the globalists that they can control that and have us low-level kill each other and collapse, and that that won't suck them in, not going to work.
So, we're going to go to break.
Start the next hour, but I thought it was important today just to explain how things really work.
And I've got a lot more to say, but I want to go through the technicals coming up next hour.
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Governor Gavin Newsom refused to sign the water restoration declaration put before him that would have allowed millions of gallons of water from excess rain and snow melt from the north to flow daily into many parts of California, including the areas that are currently burning in a virtually apocalyptic way.
He wanted to protect an essentially worthless fish called a smelt that's not even indigenous, I should add.
By giving it less water, it didn't work.
Of course they weren't protecting the fish.
It was the excuse.
But didn't care about the people of California.
Now the ultimate price is being paid.
I will demand that this incompetent governor allow beautiful, clean, fresh water to flow into California.
He is to blame for this.
On top of it all, no water from fire hydrants, not fighting, not firefighting planes, a true disaster.
Yeah, people ask, I have the newscast, why aren't there firefighter planes they have all over the West?
And they said, oh, Biden's in town.
The airspace is closed.
Only commercial aircraft are allowed to fly, not emergency aircraft, of the government.
And so the reporters had to get on a plane flying out of California to even get the footage we have.
They have an administrative list of a few hundred things you've got to do to make sure it's this bad, and every one of them they perfectly did.
So Alex was just reading some dumb shit Trump posted on Truth Social, including an allegation that Governor Newsom refused to sign, quote, the water restoration declaration.
The governor's office responded in a statement saying, quote, There's no such document as the Water Restoration Declaration.
That is pure fiction.
What Trump is talking about is water being redirected from the north of the state, from the Bay Delta to the south, which has had very low rainfall.
Experts on the subject have been pretty clear that directing water from the north of the state to the south of the state would have no real effect on this firefighting effort.
This is all just playing politics.
Biden was in LA on January 7th to commemorate the opening of a couple monuments, so there was a restriction on the airspace around where he was.
However, this didn't apply to firefighting aircraft, who could still fly just as normal, coordinating with air traffic control.
The issue was really that flying was not always possible, because there were like 80 mile an hour winds.
When you have that kind of severe weather, you run into two problems with air-based responses.
The first is obviously that flying conditions are less safe, but the second is that you can't really deploy air-based solutions effectively.
If you drop water, it's going to be blown off target from where you're trying to get it.
It sucks, but in these conditions, at points, the aircraft option was more dangerous and less likely to be effective than just grounding the planes.
However, at other points, planes were flying around and dropping water and none of it had anything to do with Biden being in town.
This is all just Alex repeating bullshit to exploit the understandably strong feelings that people have around the fire.
There's this weird phenomena of being alive in 2025 where it feels like we've been through so many of these horrific events in the past 20 years that...
There are extremely competent people in all kinds of positions all over the place who have thought this through, man.
But it's also still okay to just be Alex Jones being like, they're a bunch of fucking idiots.
Nobody's done anything right.
They're people actually trying to destroy you.
And it's like, man...
The vaccine was built in a year!
You know, like, there's extreme competence all over the place.
So Alex continues to fail his media literacy test, jumping from adolescent and young adult sci-fi over to comic books.
He, like, legitimately couldn't sound stupider if he tried.
The term left as well as right, as political labels do start with the French Revolution, they had to do with where people sat in the National Assembly, with the supporters of the monarchy sitting on the right and the people who were more opposed to the royals on the left.
So seating arrangements in the French National Assembly led to the creation of Jacobins and communism because they tried to make a nine-day week and destroy the family.
You know, I think one of the things that's interesting about it is I do think that there is something to be said about his sci-fi, but not at all in the way that he's describing anything like that.
But the way that sci-fi always has this element of reducing...
Groups to characters.
And so there's main characters and then there's just the people.
So in most sci-fi, because you're dealing with vast interstellar distances, you can't have everybody has a character.
But I think that there's another aspect to Alex's sci-fi stuff that I feel like we should probably touch on and explain, which is that it often does mirror real-world dynamics.
Yeah, I was thinking the other day, like, I feel a bit like an Italian fisherman during Mussolini's rise just, like, on the dock somewhere, and it's a nice day for me somehow, but I'm looking over and I'm like, this whole place is going to hell.
And to them, they think people like you and me are dumb because we're not predators.
No, we're smart, buddy.
If we tried to be predators, we'd be a lot better than you.
We are good people.
We build civilization, you damn snake.
You are a parasite, jackass.
We like to have a civilization where people are strong and healthy and good because we believe in ourselves and we believe in others and we are so dominant that we aren't threatened by other people doing well.
We want our children and our future children to live in a world with other good people they can marry and live with and have children.
I think it goes back to something that we've kind of hit on a bunch of times, which is, you know, when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro kind of thing.
Before, sounding crazy while looking professional was the trick because it felt like that was almost a dark commentary on how crazy everything was while people still tried to act like it was normal.
Now everything's fucking nuts and he is not stepping up his game.
But I think that this is what I just get the sense of and what I feel.
I don't have anything to base this on, but I just get the sense of him realizing that he can make a lot of money with his AlexJonesStore.com and all of these little shells that he's set up and ways to avoid the bankruptcy and all that.
Under the federal laws and regulations that Biden put in.
The states are told, and the power collectives, most of them private, but they're all in collectives, are caught here in Texas.
It supplies three states pretty much completely.
Total gives power to five other states.
And they said, five days before, the governor sent a letter to the feds and said, we need you to give us an emergency authorization to up power at our coal plants and natural gas.
We got this blue norther coming.
They said, nope.
We'll give you a million dollar an hour fines.
An hour.
For anybody that ups the power, and they feed into the collective grid, and will also consider criminal charges if you do.
So they let the Blue Norther come in, almost all the power went off the first day, and then two days into the blackouts, they said, okay, you can up power now.
Because imagine, you're the globalist, you've got all these controls, and you can just flip off the power here, flip off the power there, let fires get out of control here.
You can defund the police everywhere and then have the city councils hire their own private security, like in the case of many different areas around the nation, like Minneapolis and St. Paul.
And it's all just a flagrant, raw, insane exercise of power.
And again, it doesn't matter where you are in Europe.
Australia, the UK.
I mean, it came out that in Europe proper and Australia in the last few days, that they have the exact same policies where an illegal alien migrant rapes a child.
They don't charge them because they would be deported, and according to their regulations, it's not even a law, they've decided it's immoral to deport an illegal, so they're allowed to rape.
Here it is.
Victoria magistrates taught to give light sentences to avoid having criminal migrants deported.
I have the newscast, it's in the biggest newspapers, and they're saying it's good!
So Alex's retelling of what happened with the Texas snowstorm is completely false.
That is just an entirely fictitious retelling of events that's filtered through this weird Infowars prism that none of that's accurate.
But also, what does this have to do with the deportation policies of Australia?
Why do we jump from...
So Alex is reading a headline about some reports about a presentation at a judicial professional development meeting that discussed ways to avoid deportation being an additional penalty people might face on top of jail time.
The article Alex is talking about includes commentary from a former Victorian Supreme Court justice named Kevin Bell, who said, quote, So if this training creates the appearance that a particular outcome, that is, that offenders likely to deportation must be given a light sentence, I think that's very unlikely it would be followed.
The Judicial College of Victoria already includes a recognition that the possibility of someone being deported can make a sentence more onerous and reflects an additional consideration for a magistrate, but that doesn't mean that they have to give immigrants lower sentences.
Their manual is clear.
This depends on the personal circumstances of the offender, and a court should not consider the possibility of deportation as a mitigatory factor unless it will actually be a hardship for the offender.
Moreover, it will be given limited weight in cases where the offending is particularly serious.
This very article that Alex is using as his source quotes the manual, saying that it is, quote, error for a sentence in court to artificially lower a sentence in order to avoid the consequences of the Migration Act.
This is all a bunch of bullshit, but it's also a tangent.
This doesn't mean anything.
He's talking about energy issues, and then he just jumps off into an entirely other...
Flagrant, emotionally charged subject that he's mishandling the information around.
Because, I mean, like, you're just passing along bad information about this fire and creating sensationalism and nonsense while at the same time explaining...
That science fiction movies and books are real, and it's the plots of my enemies, and you gotta be a Joker or Batman.
And I think we need to do whatever we can to not be in that.
And if Alex insists on being in reruns and pretending that the last eight years didn't happen, I'm not saying I'm not going to listen to him, but I'm going to be more hostile, I think.
I cannot hear someone calmly explain to me that sci-fi is real while trying to exploit tragedy that is affecting people we know and friends of friends.
We'll check in and see if his tune changes a little bit or if we get back to catastrophic contagion being released on us or if the Ebola comes out of Denver or if the aliens arrive.