#976: October 18-21, 2024
In this installment, Dan and Jordan find Alex doing an annoying interview with a congressperson, being very defensive about Twitter community notes, and fighting in an "ecclesiastical war."
Oct. 28, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
01:39:27
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I need, I need money. | ||
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I need money. | |
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| In Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| Workable dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| My bright spot today is actually a revelation of... | ||
| It's a big... | ||
| John the Baptist? | ||
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Yep. | |
| On that level. | ||
| I realize that I've been using a shitty rice cooker for quite a while. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I learned this by getting a slightly better rice cooker. | ||
| And I realized, oh my god, this is so much better. | ||
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Oof. | |
| So I got a... | ||
| And it's still not even a really great rice cooker. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Mid-range, Hamilton Beach kind of situation. | ||
| As good as you need. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's night and day from the... | ||
| I was getting by with the bad rice, and I thought that's what you just had to expect. | ||
| You just had to expect bad rice. | ||
| It's not possible for the in-home good rice. | ||
| Half of this is going to be inedible, but you'll get that other half. | ||
| You'll get the cream. | ||
| Scrape it off the top. | ||
| I did not realize that I was fucking it all up. | ||
| Not how it's supposed to go. | ||
| Life can be better. | ||
| I like rice a lot, so it's good to be able to make it. | ||
| Yeah, that is good. | ||
| Bryce is a very important... | ||
|
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What's your bright spot? | |
| My bright spot broke down and got Dragon Ball, Sparking Zero. | ||
| Yeah, you mentioned that. | ||
| Fucking great. | ||
| It is so much fun to play. | ||
| I was telling you, it's not like a fighting game. | ||
| You're saying it's a lot of chaos. | ||
| It is absolute chaos. | ||
| Played it enough to where I kind of started getting the reaction time down. | ||
| And when you get into this situation with this game, you can get to the reaction time where you're like, okay, so if I press right now, then I'll teleport directly behind the guy. | ||
| But then they can do the thing where they teleport behind you. | ||
| And then you can do the thing where if you get it right, you can teleport behind them. | ||
| It's like a series of evading. | ||
| Until you just break down. | ||
| Like, it is functionally a never-ending cycle of counters that you can get trapped in. | ||
| And there's no time limit. | ||
| So it's just like, you could just be dancing around forever and ever and ever. | ||
| Just an endurance challenge. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Of dance. | ||
| But then when somebody breaks... | ||
| Boom! | ||
| You throw a giant laser at him. | ||
| It's the best. | ||
| That's cathartic. | ||
| It's the best. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So are you playing against other people online, or are you playing against a computer, or how does this work? | ||
| I haven't gotten to that. | ||
| You can play against other people online, but I'm doing the story mode, which in this series of games, there was the old type that was on the PS2 that I played, too, that I enjoyed. | ||
| There's the main story of Dragon Ball that you can play along, but what's fun is they'll have, like... | ||
| Oh, if you beat this fight in a certain way, then you can see the alternate timeline! | ||
| Sure. | ||
| What would have happened if blankety-blanked, you know? | ||
| Goku something or other? | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Exactly that. | ||
| And that's fun. | ||
| So that's what I've been doing. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| I imagine that... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I guess they figured out how to do this stuff, but it seems to me like the lag could be difficult. | ||
| If you're playing online with somebody, if it's that reaction timing... | ||
| Right? | ||
| It seems like that would be challenging. | ||
| I'm a little scared to try and play online because it is tight. | ||
| It is very, very hard to play. | ||
| It's been a long time since I've played a game like that online. | ||
| And so it's probably come a long way since what I'm imagining in my head. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I think I'm thinking of like Assassin's Creed Revelations. | ||
| So that's about 20 years ago. | ||
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So yeah. | |
| I think it's progressed. | ||
| Yeah, maybe. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| We're going to be talking about October 18th to 21st. | ||
| All right. | ||
| 2024. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The boredom with the election continues to move. | ||
| It's reaching a crest. | ||
| Alex is deeply, deeply bored, and I don't know. | ||
| Maybe I'm not thrilled with him. | ||
| Maybe I'm a little bit salty about him, but we'll see how salty it gets. | ||
| But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Ooh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, love from Craden Bumbers. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Next, I'm a wonk now. | ||
| My name's Justine, though. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Also, thanks to Josh and Em at the Podcaster's Guide to the Conspiracy for introducing me to the show. | ||
| How about a crossover? | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And Wonky Pox, thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| So we start off here on the 18th, which is Friday. | ||
| And Trump had just done the L. Smith dinner. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't know if you've heard about the old Al Smith dinner. | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| President candidates go to that and then they do a little bit of roasting. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Jim Gaffigan hosted. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| This year? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| How about life? | ||
| How about it? | ||
| How about it? | ||
| So Kamala Harris did not go. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But Trump did. | ||
| And he crushed. | ||
| I don't know if we can all accept that that's... | ||
| Possible. | ||
| Can we just have a Nazi roast? | ||
| Where we're like, hey, you know, you sent him into the... | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| Are we doing that? | ||
| Well, he also, like, I don't know. | ||
| He lacked a little bit of the charm that he usually has when he's being a total dick. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think that's partially because he had writers who wrote some of these roast jokes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And, like, he'd editorialize, like, ooh, I said that one was a little bit rough. | ||
| Oh boy, wow. | ||
| That one was a little bit too mean. | ||
| Way to really make the show the show, buddy. | ||
| So Alex talks a little bit about how great he did at this dinner. | ||
| And yeah, I could play you Trump knocking it out of the park at the Al Smith dinner. | ||
| Only two presidential candidates have not showed up at that since it's been around for 80 years or something. | ||
| And that's... | ||
| Kamala Harris and Walter Mondale. | ||
| Walter Mondale lost 59 states to Ronald Reagan in 1984. | ||
| The second largest landslide in history, only being eclipsed by Richard Nixon. | ||
| So what Alex is saying isn't entirely accurate. | ||
| So it is true that Mondale and Harris are the only time since 1960 when one or the other didn't show up, but the other did at this dinner. | ||
| But in 1996, neither Bilklin nor Bob Dole came to the dinner. | ||
| The Al Smith Foundation is a big Catholic organization, and abortion was a hot-button issue that election, so they just didn't have the presidential candidates come, opting instead to invite the VP candidates instead. | ||
| In 2004, they just didn't invite Bush or Kerry to come speak. | ||
| Yeah, that was smart. | ||
| So this year, Harris didn't make the dinner, but she did send in a video featuring this message where she was doing a skit with Molly Shannon, reprising her role as Mary Catherine Gallagher. | ||
| No. | ||
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Superstar. | |
| You're joking. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Goddammit, I hate this world! | ||
| All of you go home! | ||
| There's a little bit of a tradition that the candidates go to the dinner and do a little bit of roast-type stuff, but who cares? | ||
| It's a room full of super-rich people cracking some jokes and raising some money for Catholic charities. | ||
| Bigger picture, though, this is exactly the sort of event that Alex is supposed to be against. | ||
| It's full of rich establishment assholes injecting themselves into politics and seemingly acting like some kind of gatekeepers or kingmakers. | ||
| If the only person not to accept their invitation to speak was Walter Mondale, a historic loser of a candidate, the message seems to be that you do not turn them down when they call. | ||
| This is just Bohemian Grove or like a Bilderberg Group type of energy that Alex should be opposed to on principle. | ||
| But Trump did great, so it's cool. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| See, so the Bohemian Grove is a bunch of pagan guys who are super rich doing a bunch of weird rituals in the middle of nowhere, whereas this is a bunch of Catholic guys who are super rich doing a bunch of rituals in the middle of a place. | ||
| Completely different. | ||
| Very different. | ||
| So I watched a bit of his speech at the dinner. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Just kind of bad jokes. | ||
| It was what it was. | ||
| But I ended up watching a ton of just various things since we last recorded. | ||
| Like, I watched Trump on Rogan, or at least a good 40 minutes of it before I got tired. | ||
| Before you had enough? | ||
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You did it? | |
| I watched Elon Musk doing a town hall type thing as a Trump rally. | ||
| I'm worried that flagellation is back. | ||
| Did some sort of horrible cosmic crime happen to you and now you have a cat of nine tails on your back every hour? | ||
| No, I think as we're getting closer to this election, I'm so curious about what is happening. | ||
| I think that all this stuff seems very strange. | ||
| The idea that Trump is going on Rogan. | ||
| Strange. | ||
| Elon Musk doing a town hall. | ||
| Q&A type thing. | ||
| Absurd! | ||
| Giving away a million dollars. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| A night. | ||
| Absolutely nuts. | ||
| To support the First and Second Amendment. | ||
| Bananas town. | ||
| It is all very weird, but I want to take it in. | ||
| Like, I want to see what it is. | ||
| I don't want to just get a glimpse of it from, you know, secondhand. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't want to catch contact. | ||
| I don't want to get the real thing. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| And, oh man, it's just... | ||
| I don't even know how to describe it. | ||
| It's the Wild West out there, man. | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Elon Musk has this strong energy of a guy who knows he's getting away with something. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| When he was doing this town hall, he was just very much like a guy who was like, you idiots. | ||
| I'm scamming you to your face. | ||
| I mean, listen, hey, in his situation, I would find it hard not to be more obvious. | ||
| If I was him, I would be like, Listen, how stupid you are. | ||
| I am going to tell you, straight face, to your face, I am stealing your money and I have done nothing to earn it. | ||
| And I'm going to take more of it and then I'm going to fucking kill somebody with it and no one will stop me. | ||
| We need to be really, really concerned about government spending because all government spending is really a tax on you. | ||
| I'll give you a million dollars. | ||
| And also, that million dollars is probably something I can give you because I'm subsidized by the government and your tax dollars. | ||
| It's a little bit. | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| So, Alex, he has a clip that he wants to play that proves that he's a prophet. | ||
| And this has to do with surface-to-air missiles being launched at Trump's plane. | ||
| Right. | ||
| By Iran. | ||
| Or at least they blame Iran for it. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But he fucks everything up. | ||
| Here's a clip of me right after they tried to kill Trump. | ||
| There's a bunch of these. | ||
| Saying they're going to try to get him with a service-to-air missile and blame it on Iran and be able to strike Iran at the same time. | ||
| Two birds with one stone. | ||
| And my point is, finally, Trump got the gears going. | ||
| They took him over a month, but they got it done. | ||
| An example of, we can get stuff done and we can get these other big issues front and center. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| How many times did I say Trump's plane's going to have an emergency? | ||
| And they'll do it where it's not as obvious, make an engine go out. | ||
| Or his plane blows up. | ||
| And everybody's like, oh my God, Oaks Jones is out of gear! | ||
| I had the dream again last night. | ||
| I remembered almost all of it. | ||
| And it was a bomb on the Trump jumbo jet. | ||
| And it was in the dream, me trying to warn Trump they're going to blow his plane up. | ||
| They're going to blow his plane up. | ||
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They're going to blow his plane up. | |
| I've had a lot of dreams that come true. | ||
| And I'm not saying it's going to come true, but I had a dream a week ago, and I had it again last night. | ||
| And I told listeners I had a really horrible dream last week, but I couldn't remember much of it. | ||
| But it was one of those waking dreams that's really intense. | ||
| You wake up in a sweat, really upset. | ||
| That happens to me a couple times a year. | ||
| And I've had them come true. | ||
| I've also had them be narrowly averted. | ||
| So I'm not trying to get into a bunch of metaphysical stuff here, but... | ||
| All right, well, let's stop right here. | ||
| It's no big deal. | ||
| I talk fast. | ||
| This morning I said, two hours ago, I said, hey, get me the clip of where I say Iran's going to use surface-to-air missiles, but it's not going to be Iran. | ||
| They're going to blame Iran for surface-to-air missiles. | ||
| The main threat is a surface-to-air missile. | ||
| Yes, I also said they could put a bomb on the plane. | ||
| But a bomb on the plane is not a surface-to-air missile. | ||
| So I want the archivist to find, I said it like 500 times, it won't be hard, surface to air missile, and when we put this as an archive to X, later today, the full show, I want that added in there and we'll cut me... | ||
| Okay, so that clip really pierces the veil of Alex's whole game. | ||
| He's trying to play a clip that proves that he predicted that the globalists would use surface-to-air missiles to shoot down Trump's plane, but instead they play a produced, edited clip package of him predicting something else entirely, and saying that he'd had these series of prophetic dreams about them putting a bomb on Trump's plane. | ||
| Alex knows that these are different scenarios, and people like Tucker have been building up how specific his predictions are. | ||
| Can you believe how specific he predicted 9-11? | ||
| He's got to be a prophet. | ||
| When you have that kind of branding going on, you can't play close enough games. | ||
| And that's what he could get away with here, but he's trying to get fancy. | ||
| And he really screwed up. | ||
| Yeah, I think he can get away with it on his own show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the reason this illustrates the fraud that Alex accidentally plays this compilation of clips that he would pretend didn't exist in the case that Trump's plane was hit by a missile. | ||
| These clips demonstrate how he predicts a ton of different stuff. | ||
| Then he just ignores whatever isn't convenient. | ||
| For the mind-blowing segment he wants to put on Twitter, he's literally telling the crew to get a different clip and edit it in there, essentially trying to cover up this glaring hole in the charade. | ||
| That he's putting forth. | ||
| And that's a mistake, I think. | ||
| I will say this to you. | ||
| I think if you have to edit a book of prophecies, you do not have a book of prophecies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, especially when you're editing out prophecies. | ||
| That's not how it works. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| You can't do it. | ||
| If you want to add in things before they happen. | ||
| It still has to be before they happen. | ||
| Yeah, but a little bit after you've written the book. | ||
| I'm going to give you a pass on that. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| If you just want to amend and add to it. | ||
| But if you're taking stuff away to make yourself look more accurate, then that's kind of shady. | ||
| Unacceptable. | ||
| Bad profit stuff. | ||
| I would even say adding stuff, maybe you should have seen that. | ||
| You would have needed to add stuff coming. | ||
| I think that's probably part of it. | ||
| That's the thing about prophecy. | ||
| You've got to be 100% right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No middle ground. | ||
| Shit becomes really silly when you're not. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Oh, I was 98% of the way there! | ||
| That's 0% of the way there! | ||
| Yeah, why would this gift that you have of prophecy, why would it end up giving you multiple dreams, vivid dreams of the future, where you're trying to warn Trump about this bomb on the plane, but it's actually a missile, and oh, those dreams were wrong. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That seems dumb. | ||
| But it was close. | ||
| It was close. | ||
| So, when I said that, I felt a little bit mean. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I'll be honest, that's because Marjorie Taylor Greene is on, and Greene brings out the mean. | ||
| Mean T. Greene. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I just, I think that she is such a disaster. | ||
| The Democrats are saying, Jamie Rasky and others are not going to certify. | ||
| They're saying civil war conditions. | ||
| They're saying Trump is going to use the military to kill Americans. | ||
| Well, meanwhile, and we'll talk about this after the break, we have this DOD directive based off of what the Biden administration told them to do. | ||
| For basically martial law and killing U.S. citizens, Congresswoman. | ||
| Yeah, that's terrifying. | ||
| I've been seeing a lot of people post about that online. | ||
| And to go along with that, Alex, I was really shocked when I heard Kamala Harris during her Fox News interview with Brett Baer say and accuse President Trump that he would lock up his political enemies. | ||
| And she was saying that he would use the military against the American people. | ||
| Which is a complete lie. | ||
| This is the exact opposite of what has truly happened. | ||
| Trump said. | ||
| He said the enemy within that whole thing. | ||
| So this is a sitting member of Congress being asked by Alex Jones about the Biden administration telling the DOD to put out a directive to bring in martial law and kill U.S. citizens. | ||
| As a sitting member of Congress, her response is that she's seen a bunch of people posting about this on social media. | ||
| This is just embarrassing. | ||
| If you want to say that you see a lot of posts about how inflation is too high, that's fine. | ||
| Because you're reflecting a sentiment that you're seeing that's... | ||
| Valid, subjectively. | ||
| If tons of people are feeling the pressures of inflation and they're talking about it, then definitionally, that's an issue that a representative should address. | ||
| Conversely, if you for a second believe that the DOD is planning martial law to kill U.S. citizens in false flag social unrest events, and you're wanting to pretend that your belief is connected to a document or some kind of, you know, revelations... | ||
| You better not say, I've seen a bunch of people posting about this. | ||
| You better know this directive chapter and verse, because the threat of martial law in killing U.S. citizens is sincere, and it's very real for you. | ||
| You're an elected representative, and you have a responsibility to represent the people that elected you who presumably don't want martial law and don't want the military to kill them. | ||
| MTG having a moment like this is a dead giveaway that she doesn't give a single shit about this. | ||
| It's all just a game. | ||
| The political ideology is primarily centered on getting angry about tweets and then pretending everyone should take you seriously. | ||
| And, like, I don't know how to say this other than, she's in Congress. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's not a... | ||
| Like, okay. | ||
| Let's really think about what Congress is. | ||
| Alright? | ||
| The people who actually write legislation are not elected to Congress. | ||
| Because the people who are elected to Congress are face people. | ||
| They're people who talk loud. | ||
| They don't know how to write. | ||
| Marjorie Taylor Greene has never sat down and typed up a policy proposal. | ||
| I'm not sure if that's true or not, but I take your point. | ||
| I would just rebut that this is like a bad face person. | ||
| I agree, but not for her. | ||
| Not for her gig. | ||
| She's a great face person for her gig. | ||
| I feel like there were people who were up to no good and maybe on the take. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And, you know, maybe there were bad representatives or shady. | ||
| But, like, I don't feel like when I was younger people were directly like, you're stupid. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| This is stupid. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, I wonder if that is... | ||
| I mean, maybe we just weren't asking the right questions back then. | ||
| Maybe if we'd really scratched it. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| It's like whenever they were like, oh, we just didn't used to ask presidents if they were fucking random strangers on the sidewalk. | ||
| That wasn't what you did. | ||
| Maybe we should have been like... | ||
| Hey, it's 1992. | ||
| Do you really believe that Jesus Christ is going to come back if you do this thing? | ||
| Yeah, you scratch that itch, they're going to tell you the truth! | ||
| Maybe the pressures of just the existence of social media and people... | ||
| Asking questions all the goddamn time about everything. | ||
| Yeah, maybe that just reveals an idiocy that was there that people were better at hiding. | ||
| It was there the whole time, but you didn't have the chance to say anything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You didn't have anywhere to say it. | ||
| It might be. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because I think a lot of this does just trace back to social media idiocy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just earlier this morning, I received from a very good friend of mine that lives here in my district. | ||
| And so Whitfield County, someone posted up. | ||
| That when they went to vote in Whitfield County here in Georgia's 14th District, now remember, we're a swing state, and we need everyone to vote in my district. | ||
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And so they went to vote, and we have the Dominion machines. | |
| And you mark, you go through and you mark president, you mark, you know, for Congress, that would be me. | ||
| They mark Donald Trump, and they mark who they were voting for the rest of the way down their ballot on the machine. | ||
| Then when they're finished, The machine prints their ballot, a paper copy, a printed copy, and each voter has to review that printed copy to make sure that it has selected the candidates that they want to vote for. | ||
| And so when this voter printed their ballot and they looked, it had changed. | ||
| It was not Donald Trump. | ||
| It was not me, and it was not the other ones they had voted for. | ||
| It had switched. | ||
| And so they went up to one of the election workers and they said, here's the problem. | ||
| The machine switched it and my printed ballot, I did not vote for these people. | ||
| So they had to start over and they went through it several times and it kept on making the same error. | ||
| Kept on switching the votes. | ||
| Damn! | ||
| So if you're a dumb dumb, that probably sounds like a terrifying story of clear voter fraud. | ||
| But if you're paying attention, you might notice that this is just MTG passing along a story that a friend of hers saw on social media. | ||
| She didn't even see this on social media herself. | ||
| It's a secondhand tweet being passed off by a sitting member. | ||
| The bar is really low, I think, for her, based on past behavior, and this is embarrassing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, let me throw another possible explanation for you, okay? | ||
| Having read a lot of the memoirs and stuff of the different eras... | ||
| Most people were maybe too drunk to give this many words of explanation at any given point in time. | ||
| Like most of these congresspeople from like 1895 and stuff like that, you'd read about them and it'd be like, oh, he was drunk at 9 a.m. every morning, passed out at 1.30. | ||
| Why would you even ask him a question like, oh, is there voter fraud? | ||
| He would go and then fall asleep. | ||
| So you don't know if he's crazy. | ||
| He's too busy drinking. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We need to get Marjorie Taylor Greene a drinking problem ASAP. | ||
| Make America drunk again. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I found my... | ||
| Okay, so I had been watching a couple of these Trump rallies. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I did notice that he'd always close with a list of Make America Blank Again. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's like, Make America Healthy Again. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And I found myself, after every single one, just saying it as an acronym. | ||
| MAGA. | ||
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MAGA. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I just kept saying that. | ||
| And sometimes it was repeats. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Because I can't remember what... | ||
| They were like... | ||
| Two of them that were the same acronym. | ||
| And I was like, wait, I'm saying MABA again? | ||
| You gotta have fun. | ||
| You gotta have fun where you can. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So Marjorie has some more dumb thoughts. | ||
| And everyone I talk to feels like Donald Trump would win by a landslide if they don't steal the election. | ||
| Because Alex, you got the poly market. | ||
| The betting market is... | ||
| Going hard for Donald Trump. | ||
| You've got everyone you talk to from every business sector is saying Trump is going to win. | ||
| Wow, so this sounds like grassroots populism. | ||
| You know, the bookmakers and the corporate owner class, they're behind Trump. | ||
| You go to the Bellagio, you see all the smart monies on Trump, not like the voters, those idiots who don't have any cash. | ||
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Polls. | |
| Bunch of morons. | ||
| So Polymarket is a betting platform that's based in France, so it's technically legal. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because a lot of the polling has been up and down, Polymarket's become the big selling point for dipshits like Marjorie Taylor Greene trying to prove that Trump is going to win by a landslide, and that if he loses, it must be cheating. | ||
| The argument is supposed to be that a betting market is a system that works itself out and will give you more accurate information about public opinion than polls, since people have to put their money behind these bets. | ||
| You know, they must really mean it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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In practice, this is stupid, though, because people who live in foreign countries and therefore don't vote in our election are able to gamble on this. | |
| And this is where things get kind of interesting, because in theory, if someone in another country were to bet a And as it turns out... | ||
| This is not theoretical, because recently, a French dude using four different accounts placed over $28 million in bets on Trump to win, which very likely drove a large amount of odds shifting on that site, which was then being reported by people like MTG, Alex, Elon Musk, all these folks as proof that he's going to win in a landslide. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| This is all just bad information gathering and handling on Marjorie Taylor Greene's part, and her base should expect better. | ||
| This is just fundamentally bad use of information. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, what else is there to say? | ||
| After Biden stepped down and Harris took over, the whole world as I saw it... | ||
| From the newspapers to everybody was like, oh, now Kamala's going to win in a landslide. | ||
| Oh, now Trump is going to lose in a landslide, right? | ||
| That was a few months ago. | ||
| In the intervening time period, I have not heard one person go like, well, now I have changed my vote. | ||
| Or I have changed my mind. | ||
| I feel you. | ||
| And at the same time, I have heard the polls are changing non-stop! | ||
| But I have not heard anybody go like, oh, well, I don't think my belief system is the same as it was two days ago? | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| I don't know if there is a wild fluctuation of public opinion, but some polls have been inconsistent. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| In ways that, you know... | ||
| You got to take it with a grain of salt. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Now, what I would say in response to you, though, is that, like, I don't think that when Biden stepped down, people were like, Kamala's going to win by a landslide. | ||
| I think they were like, the chances are much better now. | ||
| And there was a wave of relief. | ||
| But my sense of it was not like, this shit's over. | ||
| It was just like, well, it's better. | ||
| This is going to go better for the left or Democrats than it. | ||
| Looked like it was. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I will double down on your point, but also tie it back into the betting. | ||
| I've still got my money where my mouth is, and I bet on a woman becoming the president, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Immediately after that, I checked because I thought I had lost that bet. | ||
| And then, uh-oh, Dark Horse Harris coming in, maybe I'm still going to win it. | ||
| The odds were up at like 56 to 44. That kind of thing. | ||
| Just check now. | ||
| It's the reverse. | ||
| 44 to 56. Nothing has changed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Except that one guy put $28 million down. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's the only difference. | ||
| Right. | ||
| A betting market and shit like that can be fundamentally altered like that. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's a large part of why this is just bad information. | ||
| Just bad information. | ||
| But to the point you were saying, I kind of feel similarly, but there must be some... | ||
| People who are changing minds. | ||
| Like, there has to be. | ||
| But it feels so strange because here we are as the election is, you know, right around the corner. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You have Trump going on Rogan, and I don't really feel like that mattered. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Didn't mean anything. | ||
| I don't think, from my, you know, taking the temperature of stuff, I don't know if that was the biggest deal in the world. | ||
| I don't think that it's being used the way you would expect it to. | ||
| And then on the flip side, you have, like, Eminem introduced Obama at a Harris rally. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And you had Beyonce was at, you know, a Harris campaign event. | ||
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Right. | |
| And I really don't know if that's moving the needle either. | ||
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Nope. | |
| It's strange. | ||
| No. | ||
| Because both of these things should really get people excited, bring people on. | ||
| The problem is so simple, and it's very obvious. | ||
| Everybody was so relieved whenever Biden was gone. | ||
| And I will say this. | ||
| I think it was people on all sides. | ||
| Because at the very least, something different was happening. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's not a repeat. | ||
| We already know Biden. | ||
| We already know Trump. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It sucks for everybody. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| So the only argument now is who sucks more, right? | ||
| And so whenever Kamala took over, everybody was like, finally, she'll do something different. | ||
| She'll make a name for herself. | ||
| She'll do something. | ||
| In the intervening time period, she's been like, hey, let's keep on rolling with the exact same thing. | ||
| So now we're back right where we were, where it's the same thing either way. | ||
| Everybody knows who Trump is. | ||
| Everybody knows who Kamala is because it doesn't matter. | ||
| So here we are. | ||
| I think a little bit of that exuberance of it's not the same matchup has dwindled a tiny bit. | ||
| She could have distinguished herself in any way. | ||
| I think she has in some ways, but maybe not as much as you would want. | ||
| In some ways, yes, absolutely. | ||
| But in a meaningful, like... | ||
| I am going to take a stand against my own administration because I'm demonstrating that I am a new thing. | ||
| She has not done that at all. | ||
| I can see how it hasn't been adequate to what you would want. | ||
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Sure, sure. | |
| And I think that that's fair. | ||
| I just think more of what's going on is everyone... | ||
| I think most people, it's a clear decision. | ||
| You know, like, it's not close in people's minds. | ||
| So having star power or going on Rogan, I don't think that's going to change anyone's mind. | ||
| I just think it's fundamentally like, you're in or you're out. | ||
| On both. | ||
| Either way, you're not changing. | ||
| Why would you change your mind away from Trump now? | ||
| Oh, did you just find out he's a rapist? | ||
| That's on you, man. | ||
| Oh, he had a bad set on Rogan? | ||
| That's your fucked up shit. | ||
| Nobody is surprised that he's a rapist. | ||
| So Marjorie Taylor Greene is more dumb things to say, of course. | ||
| Texas, I believe, has 40 electoral college votes. | ||
| If they somehow swing the state of Texas and they do that through illegal aliens voting in the Texas election, you can forget it. | ||
| It is over. | ||
| We will never win another election in this country. | ||
| Texas with 40 electoral college votes. | ||
| And by the way, the left has been saying for 10 years they're going to turn it blue. | ||
| They're engaged in massive fraud with ActBlue and all the rest of it. | ||
| And so many Texans are like, that'll never happen. | ||
| California 40 years ago was redder than Texas. | ||
| People better stop thinking we can't lose Texas. | ||
| Oh, yeah, you can lose Texas. | ||
| And let's also talk about the fact that your great state attorney general, Ken Paxton, is not allowed to investigate election fraud. | ||
| Did you know that? | ||
| Yes, but elaborate. | ||
| Yes, so Ken Paxton. | ||
| They took away his power to investigate and prosecute election fraud in the state of Texas. | ||
| This is the state attorney general, Ken Paxton, has no power to investigate and prosecute election fraud. | ||
| That is such a dangerous setup. | ||
| So you might have noticed that Alex gave away that he had no idea what MTG was talking about when he said that he totally knew what she was talking about, but that she should elaborate. | ||
| Hey, you should keep going. | ||
| I know what you know, but for the listeners who have no idea what you're talking about, keep going. | ||
| It's a good move. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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So the court didn't say that Ken Paxton can't investigate voter fraud. | |
| The district court ruled that a law Texas had recently violated the Constitution. | ||
| This was a law that made it a third-degree felony to compensate people for vote harvesting services. | ||
| But the way the law was written made it unclear if you could get arrested for doing something like providing food for voter registration drive volunteers. | ||
| Like, you might go to jail for that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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It's so, like, just casually written that... | |
| Free speech is basically under assault, if this stands. | ||
| Well, yeah, that's the idea. | ||
| Folks like Paxton have been working pretty hard to disenfranchise voters in their state, and the court just ruled that he can't do it this way, because it's unconstitutional. | ||
| This information is being relayed by a sitting member of Congress as some evil, unspecified they taking away Paxton's ability to investigate voter fraud. | ||
| Like, this is a shameful, uh... | ||
| Presentation here. | ||
| Yeah, you go back in any direction, this is no good. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| It should be that they took away Paxson's ability to do anything as Attorney General. | ||
| That should have been taken away. | ||
| You shouldn't be there. | ||
| Yeah, I don't disagree. | ||
| So you have Marjorie Taylor Greene coming in with this insane idea that she's saying. | ||
| This completely fraudulent premise. | ||
| They went into his office. | ||
| He had a stamp that said, investigate or don't investigate. | ||
| And they took away the investigate stamp. | ||
| And I'm picturing it as someone with a Hamburglar mask. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| Tiptoeing. | ||
| You just see their shadow, their silhouette. | ||
| Oh, that's a good one. | ||
| And they have a big bag over there. | ||
| That's where they put the stamp in. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| It has all the other stamps in. | ||
| 49 other AG stamps in there. | ||
| So she's got this stupid premise, and then Alex is like, oh, I totally know all about that, but please tell me more about it. | ||
| He doesn't know shit. | ||
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Nope. | |
| So then she's explaining it to him, and I guess someone in the control booth is like, I should probably Google this. | ||
| Why? | ||
| What? | ||
| Why? | ||
| I don't know, but it's a mistake. | ||
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That's right. | |
| To be specific, we put the document on screen. | ||
| They claim he can investigate, but they defanged him where he can't prosecute. | ||
| So it's just like the Democrats are saying they want an inspector general over the Supreme Court. | ||
| That would be a legislative coup over the judiciary. | ||
| They're doing this everywhere. | ||
| They're defanging any of the good guys, removing their constitutional power. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he can investigate, but he cannot prosecute. | ||
| So what's the sense of investigating if you can't prosecute it? | ||
| So who would prosecute it in the state of Texas? | ||
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If it's not your attorney general, who could prosecute it? | |
| So Alex has looked up this Ken Paxton story and accidentally revealed on camera that MTG is wrong about what she was claiming. | ||
| Then, instead of accepting that they got this one wrong, Alex decides to jump in with a bit of spin, coming up with a new plausible thing for the audience to believe. | ||
| That's all good and well, and it's what you expect from Alex, but this next move from MTG is just pathetic. | ||
| She's supposed to be the one who's informing Alex about this story. | ||
| You expect that she would have the facts. | ||
| And yet, based on just a cursory Google search, Alex introduces new information into the narrative, and MTG incorporates his context into her story like it's a bad improv scene. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And, um, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, who would—okay, so some guy at the state level is able to investigate at the state level what we considered a federal crime. | ||
| Who could possibly prosecute said federal crime? | ||
| Is there something above some sort of state legislature, some sort of governing body that someone might be a part of that is of a larger state? | ||
| I get what you're saying, but I also think a lot of these cases wouldn't necessarily be federal. | ||
| No. | ||
| Because states handle a lot of the election-related stuff. | ||
| There wouldn't be any cases at all. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, there would be. | ||
| But they wouldn't be based on real things. | ||
| There wouldn't be good cases where fraud was the issue. | ||
| No. | ||
| There would be crime cases where the case itself is the crime. | ||
| So Marjorie has something else to say here about... | ||
| Women who don't have kids. | ||
| What about them? | ||
| Who needs them? | ||
| Am I right, gals? | ||
| What? | ||
| This is 30 seconds long, and I really got whiplash. | ||
| Of course, I'm not weighing against any woman that decided not to have children or couldn't have children or don't have children. | ||
| I would never judge any woman that way. | ||
| But Kamala Harris is a woman that does not have children, and that means... | ||
| To me, that she truly, from her point of power, she's not going to truly consider the future of this country because she has never had children herself. | ||
| Can you hear yourself? | ||
| All right. | ||
| I would never judge anyone for not doing this thing. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| If you don't do this thing, you are a monster who should be judged and killed. | ||
| Just throwing that out there. | ||
| I would never judge someone for not having children, but this person that I really don't like doesn't have children, and therefore, because of that fact, is incapable of caring about the future in a way that I deem appropriate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| People really gotta figure out how to use the comma and the but. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Because a lot of the times what I'm hearing is people not understand that the but is not like a complete negation of the first part in order to serve the predicate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The but is an additional kind of thing. | ||
| It's like, oh, I'm going to the store, but also my feet hurt, so I'm going to have to drive. | ||
| Do you understand it? | ||
| It's not, oh, I'm going to the store, but no, I'm fucking not! | ||
| Yeah, it's just troubling because she's in Congress. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Anyway, I felt like she made me very mad. | ||
| I didn't enjoy listening to this interview at all. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| But then she leaves, and Alex starts discussing how much research he does. | ||
| And he brings up the guy who wrote The Godfather. | ||
| All right. | ||
| This is just fun. | ||
| This is good, clean fun. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I've been studying this stuff, knows the grindstone, 35 years. | ||
| I've been studying it for 40 years. | ||
| I was 10 years old, learning about the globalist, the New World Order, and I thought that was pretty important. | ||
| I didn't want to read comic books anymore about fiction. | ||
| I wanted to know about real stuff. | ||
| So I got into World War I, World War II history, Roman history, all of it. | ||
| I've read, no exaggeration, it's got to be over a thousand books. | ||
| And I hardly read books anymore about history and globalism because I'm just reading news all day and I already have such a backlog of knowledge and so many guests, I don't have the time to do it. | ||
| But I used to stay up until 2 in the morning almost every night until... | ||
| Probably about 12, 13 years ago, and then I just, I might read 10 books a year now. | ||
| Because I'm just, half the time I already know everything that's in the book anyways. | ||
| It's like Mario Puzo, who wrote The Godfather, never written a book. | ||
| He grew up in New York, actually knew the real gangsters. | ||
| He just changed the names of real things that happened and put it in a book. | ||
| And when he won all those Academy Awards, they wanted him to speak at a big college. | ||
| He's done interviews and told the story. | ||
| He's dead now. | ||
| And he was going to speak to a major university about screenwriters. | ||
| To screenwriters. | ||
| I think it was UCLA. | ||
| So he thought he'd go buy a book, the best-selling book that year, a few years after The Godfather came out, on screenwriting. | ||
| He bought the book, and the whole book was inside about The Godfather and how Mario Puzo was the best screenwriter. | ||
| Never went to college for screenwriting, knew nothing about it, wrote what they say is the best screenplay ever, and then he goes against a book that's the best seller about how to write screenplays, and it's all about how to do it the way he did. | ||
| So, and I'm not saying I'm that smart, but this is all I do. | ||
| 99% of the time I go read something or whatever, and I'm like, I already knew that, knew this, knew that, knew that. | ||
| I just get more constantly watching clips of them, reading white papers, documents, legislation, globalist statements, what's coming out of the CFR, what's coming out of the WEF, and then it's all just a continuation of their death cult, world government, technocracy, mad scientists. | ||
| Satanic, lunatic asylum. | ||
| Okay, so this is fun and all, but Mario Puzo wrote the novel The Godfather, but the screenplay was adapted by himself and Francis Ford Coppola. | ||
| Also, he'd written a bunch of stuff before that and wrote in his 1972 memoir, quote, I'm ashamed to admit that I wrote The Godfather entirely from research. | ||
| I never met a real honest-to-God gangster. | ||
| I knew the gambling world pretty good, but that's all. | ||
| He got a degree from City College of New York, where presumably he took some English courses. | ||
| I don't know if he studied screenwriting, but he did go to college. | ||
| Alex is rattling off this nonsense about Puzo, because it's not about Puzo at all. | ||
| It's actually Alex talking about how he wants to be seen. | ||
| He's got no education in anything, but he grew up in this shit, and he's a natural talent. | ||
| He studied all the globalist documents, and now he doesn't need to read anything, because he already knows everything any article is going to say before he even gets into it. | ||
| He's too smart for information. | ||
| In real life, Alex just skims tweets, and then he gets mad about them. | ||
| I mean, it's not hard to think you know everything when all you're doing is looking at shitheads on Twitter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, that's probably a pretty... | ||
| I mean, you'd probably feel pretty smart. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And especially when so much of it conforms to what you want to believe already. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, think about this. | ||
| On the one hand, you could read a book which would take time, effort. | ||
| Might challenge you. | ||
| You might not know every single word's definition right away. | ||
| You might find some information that you can't immediately discount, so you might have to do your own work there. | ||
| Or... | ||
| You could read a bunch of tweets by people who are either dumber than you, or agree with you, or both. | ||
| And live in a conspiracy space that is largely inspired by how successful you've been at monetizing conspiracy bullshit. | ||
| So it's kind of reflecting you back on you. | ||
| When's the last time Alex has had to finish a World Net Daily article? | ||
| Or a Zero Hedge article? | ||
| Never. | ||
| He just reads a paragraph and he's like, oh, yep. | ||
| My enemies are evil. | ||
| I do like the idea of being like, I don't want to read fiction anymore, so I'm going to read history books about the two most fictionalized things that anybody has ever talked about. | ||
| The World Wars. | ||
| A thousand books. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you could read a thousand books about the World Wars and never read a true fact. | ||
| That is 100% possible. | ||
| It is. | ||
| I mean, there's obviously a lot of real... | ||
| Totally. | ||
| But there's quite a canon of revisionist stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you want to get rid of fiction, go to someplace really boring. | ||
| Something really, really boring like the invention of the rotor. | ||
| And just read a story about the invention of the rotor and about how it works. | ||
| You remember back when micro-histories were a real fad that was going on? | ||
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Uh-uh. | |
| There were just micro-histories everywhere. | ||
| Micro-histories everywhere? | ||
| Yeah, there was that book Salt. | ||
| That was one of the big examples of it. | ||
| It was just like the history of salt. | ||
| Just the whole fucking thing. | ||
| Just bang it out. | ||
| Now you know the history of salt. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Move on. | ||
| I feel like that was a really successful one. | ||
| And then there were just these about everything. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| I remember getting into that for a while. | ||
| I like the Sparks notes of just existence. | ||
| These were not Sparks notes. | ||
| These were... | ||
| Exhaustive. | ||
| Oh, oh, so they weren't micro. | ||
| It was an almost ironic name. | ||
| Well, it's micro in terms of, like, it's targeted. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
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It's about salt. | |
| Gotcha, gotcha. | ||
| That is it, though. | ||
| Gotcha, gotcha. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| How are we related to salt? | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| No additional stories. | ||
| Just rock. | ||
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Okay. | |
| It used to be money. | ||
| It did used to be money. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| You earn your salt. | ||
| Money can be anything. | ||
| Money's in the mind. | ||
| I'm just trying to prove I read that book. | ||
| I believe you. | ||
| I believe you. | ||
| So, Alex has a plug here towards the end of this episode. | ||
| I want to thank you for your support, but we need it now. | ||
| And I also need you to follow OnX, if you're a real Alex Jones follower, to go to what's in the corner of the screen. | ||
| At AJNLive. | ||
| One word. | ||
| Alice Jones Network Live. | ||
| It's just the initials. | ||
| At AJNLive. | ||
| And that is a system owned and run by other people, not me. | ||
| So the people coming after me can't shut down somebody else's company in operation. | ||
| And that's just a escape backup emergency pod that itself has a podcasting studio and a broadcasting desk. | ||
| The basic stuff. | ||
| And it's there. | ||
| And then there's some other stuff being set up and being done. | ||
| Because I really, even though Austin's been taken over by the communists, my mom's from here, I'm from Dallas, been here since high school, my family's all here. | ||
| Just because the communists took over this town, I'm not going to run out of here. | ||
| Okay, well I'm certainly convinced that this is a totally separate business with nothing to do with Alex. | ||
| This is on the up and up. | ||
| I'm convinced. | ||
| I'm not concerned. | ||
| Don't need to tell me twice. | ||
| Incidentally, if you go to this Twitter account, you'll find a number of videos that are posted on there, which seem to all be Infowars broadcasts. | ||
| He says that they have their own studio and all that, but a number of these videos are shot in a studio with a clear Infowars sign in the backdrop, and I recognize them from his use on the show. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| I hope that's not the case. | ||
| I wouldn't do it. | ||
| Also, as of this morning when we're recording, that account has 46,000 followers, which is about 6,000 more than it had the last time we checked, which is bad news for the viability of this escape pod. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Good conversion. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| No, if you have a real... | ||
| Or maybe it's just a measure of just how few people actually are on Twitter anymore. | ||
| The idea of having millions of followers and then tweeting out to a different account used to mean that account was going to have an additional hundreds of thousands in a heartbeat. | ||
| Not maybe the whole millions, but there would be a big jump. | ||
| Yeah, there would be motion. | ||
| This is not that. | ||
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No. | |
| Maybe, I don't know if anybody's on Twitter anymore. | ||
| I think that there have to be, maybe, like, bots aren't alerted to Alex's new location. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or whatever, but, like, he's on his show, which he claims 20 million people are watching. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He's got millions of followers on Twitter. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Like, this kind of promotion of, this is where you need to go, should have a much better rate. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| You know, it's like, I wonder if business-wise, if like real business-wise, if you get down to it, Alex is really dependent on like 15,000 people. | ||
| Like it's just Alex and 15,000 people, 15,000 people. | ||
| He says that 1% of the audience buys products. | ||
| Sure, but I mean, let's go even smaller. | ||
| Like, could it really be like that number of people or the ones who actually support him? | ||
| To the point where maybe he should just give up with all this Twitter shit anyways. | ||
| Go to their homes. | ||
| There's not that many of them. | ||
| Well, I think that that would be getting back to the roots. | ||
| That's what I'm saying! | ||
| Back in the day, they'd have John Birch Society meetings in people's homes. | ||
| Twitter doesn't butter your bread, man. | ||
| Those 15,000 people do. | ||
| You fucking, you know, give them a little zhuzh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I think that they'd get bored. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I think... | ||
| Part of the allure that keeps those 15,000, speaking in that hypothetical number, I think part of that is the illusion of the millions. | ||
| Of being part of the largest group. | ||
| He does sell you that part. | ||
| You're not crazy. | ||
| I think that if you strip that away... | ||
| You might lose a good bit of it. | ||
| If you really went to the hotel conference room and it was just you and the guys you already know, you'd be like, oh, this is not the movement that I thought I was part of. | ||
| And then a strange guy from Chicago with a mustache who's giggling in the corner. | ||
| Right, absolutely. | ||
| So yeah, Alex has another thing to plug, though. | ||
| Oh yeah? | ||
| And this is cool. | ||
| This is really cool stuff. | ||
| I think it's 45 or 50% off two bottles, 40% off when you get one bottle. | ||
| That's back in stock at the Alex Jones store. | ||
| Talk about the Moss. | ||
| There's a VIP section on there that I noticed was getting really a lot of traction, because I hadn't really... | ||
| Because other folks on this, other folks that are great run this, the folks at Bigly, great Patriot backers, total Patriots, J-Sexers, you name it. | ||
| I didn't realize how good the VIP thing was. | ||
| So when I saw this the other day, I said, I better talk about this. | ||
| So if you're a member of the Alex Jones VIP Club at Alex Jones Store... | ||
| This is a critical time in our nation. | ||
| We don't know what the future holds for the operation. | ||
| The following information I'm about to relay to you is imperative so we can stay in touch. | ||
| You can get great products and keep me on the air one way or the other along with the crew. | ||
| Monthly member credits. | ||
| Every month as a VIP member you get $40 of free store credit. | ||
| That's more than it costs. | ||
| They're paying you to be a member. | ||
| That sounds true. | ||
| So, to be clear, if I'm to believe what Alex is saying, another company that he has no control over or direct involvement with has started up an Alex Jones VIP club that's kind of like a subscription service. | ||
| Alex had no idea that they were doing this, so when he heard about it, he thought, I better plug this. | ||
| This sounds really cool. | ||
| So Alex gets on air to promote this thing and plug it. | ||
| He hadn't heard about it before. | ||
| And to do so, to get this plug going, he reads a copy on the page that's promoting the VIP club, which is strangely written in the first person from the perspective of Alex Jones. | ||
| If I were Alex and I really didn't have any direct involvement with this company, I might think that they were taking liberties with my name and likeness. | ||
| It's one thing to call your store... | ||
| The Alex Jones store. | ||
| But they were writing ad copy for a subscription service named after him, and they didn't tell him about this? | ||
| I'm supposed to believe that launched without an arrangement in place for Alex to get a cut of this VIP club? | ||
| Complete bullshit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| This is nonsense. | ||
| It's so far past the line of trying to pretend it's a different company. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| The only place that people could consider this not a crime would be the court, which is unfortunately where it would matter. | ||
| Well. | ||
| Oops. | ||
| So we get to the 20th, which is Sunday. | ||
| We jump to that. | ||
| And this show is a bit uninspired, but also very severe. | ||
| Yesterday morning, I got up at 5 a.m., got a cup of coffee, went and got on my desktop, and boom! | ||
| Right out of the mouth of Xi Jinping, the Chinese communist dictator, in battle fatigues. | ||
| He's never done that. | ||
| He's not one to... | ||
| Play soldier, usually, reviewing all the different military forces in two different speeches that we've got for you in Chinese and Mandarin, saying war is imminent, we are prepared right now, and I want you to get ready for war as soon as tomorrow. | ||
| He said imminent war with the United States. | ||
| If you just do the simplest search possible, you'll immediately find tons of pictures of she wearing camo and army uniforms throughout the years. | ||
| This isn't a big signal of anything, and Alex is making up that he's not one to dress up. | ||
| He's never done this. | ||
| Making that stuff up. | ||
| Because Alex is desperate to keep the audience's attention, and he's just super bored with the election as it's actually happening in the real world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's found himself in a position where the candidate he supports keeps saying stuff that runs directly against his primary principles In any normal situation, this is a situation where you could pull back your support of that candidate and moderate your position But for Alex, this is a war against the literal devil that represents the culmination of his career's trajectory He's made everything he believes in, from political ideas to religious doctrine, secondary to Trump. | ||
| And in doing so, he's created an impossible situation to be in. | ||
| Trump is threatening to use the military as a domestic police force. | ||
| He's talking about how police brutality would solve the country's crime problems. | ||
| And even just on these two points, leaving everything else aside, Alex should not only abandon his support for Trump, but he should be denounced as an agent of Satan. | ||
| Alex made multiple videos and documentaries called Police State. | ||
| Like, he's the police state guy. | ||
| And he's just, he can't. | ||
| No, I mean, if anybody ever has been guilty of predictive programming, in a sense it would be Alex doing it to himself. | ||
| Insofar as, by creating an enemy that can only be matched by itself, Alex has set him up. | ||
| I think another issue here, though, is that Alex has just become a follower, not a leader. | ||
| He doesn't like feeling that way, so he's trying to act out in whatever ways he can to still pretend that he's a leader. | ||
| And this often takes the form of him interpreting imaginary clues about what's going to happen in the world. | ||
| Something that happens a lot, like G wearing camo, becomes a unique occurrence that only Alex is smart enough to understand. | ||
| One of the big problems is that Alex exists in a media ecosystem that's very impressed by people who find imaginary patterns in the world. | ||
| Conspiracies are about connecting dots and sometimes those dots aren't really there. | ||
| Alex has never held to account for these fake dots that he's connecting because the whole thing is just... | ||
| series of exciting fake dots. | ||
| By the time that you realize that that whole theory about Biden turning against Harris and how the globalists were in retreat, that was based on him connecting fake dots. | ||
| But by the time you realize that, he's moved on to another fake pattern that he's seeing, like, she never wears army uniforms, so this must mean war. | ||
| That does sound true. | ||
| And I think he's doing that in order to assert some feeling like he's leading. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Whereas the reality is he's just an utter Follower for Trump, for Musk, Tucker. | |
| Yeah, I think, you know, like, okay, if you're Alex, the only thing that you can think of now that still gives people a charge from you, right, is that Tucker thing where it's like, he predicted 9-11. | ||
| So your value comes from being able to predict bullshit. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And the thing that he has that other larger people don't have is the ability to predict a million different things without ever receiving, like, oh, you look like an idiot now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like, even, like, you know, you see a smaller account of some sort posting some, like, oh, she's never worn fatigues before, and there are people who are just piling on, you're so fucking stupid, you know, for no reason. | ||
| That guy didn't even do anything, you know? | ||
| But Alex... | ||
| He can say that shit and get away with it scot-free. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He has the luxury that most people aren't actually even watching his show. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then he can take, of the hundred predictions he made, he can ignore 99 of them and pretend like, this is what I meant all along. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Which is the game that's, the illusion is pierced by that surface-to-air missile thing from earlier. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Like, his only real talent is... | ||
| Taking one of the things he said in the past and pretending it was prophetic. | ||
| And putting a beat to it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Someone did that. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| Which was appreciated. | ||
| So, Alex, just, I mean, it's mostly just ranting about tyranny is here. | ||
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Sure. | |
| It's Sunday, October 20th, 2024. | ||
| I am your host, Alex Jones, coming to you from the embattled InfoWars studios in Austin, Texas. | ||
| And the intensity of the attacks on this independent pro-human Team Humanity broadcast are emblematic and are just symptoms of the larger attacks on humanity. | ||
| We are 15 days, 7 hours, 53 minutes, 6 seconds, the most important election in world history. | ||
| Then, President Trump will be President-elect, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| In 91 days, he'll be sworn in. | ||
| But in the 76 days, when he is president-elect, the Democrats have prepared for martial law and the implementation of U.S. troops on the streets, seizing control of all infrastructure, and the killing of Americans. | ||
| It's all public. | ||
| I warned you of this for decades. | ||
| And now... | ||
| The secret plans they've been constructing and building and perfecting in the shadows are being revealed. | ||
| The knife, the dagger, the sword of tyranny has been unsheathed and is now pointing at the heart of our republic and the entire world. | ||
| And that's not hype what I just said. | ||
| That's not hype. | ||
| That's not hype. | ||
| It's not hype. | ||
| Not hype. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Even though we were born for it. | ||
| And we were playing this, doing this over the final countdown. | ||
| Maybe the most hyped up. | ||
| Hype song that could you imagine? | ||
| The final fucking countdown? | ||
| That didn't match up well with the music. | ||
| No, I was wondering who I'm supposed to be rooting for if the final countdown is playing. | ||
| Like, are they the protagonists that I'm like, yeah, they're doing it! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Right? | ||
| Well, we're heading for Venus. | ||
| And Elon Musk in his town hall meeting that he did the other day, he was talking a lot about how one of the biggest priorities is... | ||
| Getting some of that water on Mars. | ||
| We gotta just cool Mars down a little bit. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Go. | ||
| Somebody get him to Mars. | ||
| Get his ass to Mars. | ||
| Let's all vote for Trump so he can cool Mars down a bit. | ||
| Whatever it takes to get that man off of this planet, I am willing to entertain. | ||
| So I was listening to this and I'm just like, okay, this rant doesn't feel that inspired. | ||
| And then on top of it, it just doesn't sync up well with the final countdown. | ||
| I'm not enjoying this. | ||
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Sure. | |
| It's a lot of ranting on this episode just about fears and the world. | ||
| And then he pivots into trying to sell gold with Kirk Elliott. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so I'm out. | ||
| Don't eat it. | ||
| So we jump to the 21st. | ||
| We jump to Monday. | ||
| And you were saying a minute ago about people piling on to people on Twitter. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And how Alex seems immune from that. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And it's fascinating because I totally agree with you. | ||
| Until this episode. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I think Alex is starting to feel some pressure from Twitter. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| And then you've also got Zelensky last month saying he wants nuclear weapons and may have nuclear weapons soon. | ||
| Then you've got Build last week saying that they are going to get nuclear weapons reportedly from their sources inside NATO in the next two weeks. | ||
| I reported on that. | ||
| And then it trended top of X. Is that true? | ||
| And Elon Musk asked the question of my live show last night under it. | ||
| NATO plans to give Ukraine nuclear weapons. | ||
| Is this accurate? | ||
| You can see his comment down there at the bottom. | ||
| Well, that's a build report. | ||
| And the hundreds of thousands of commenters and people, most of them agreed with me and were putting links to it, but... | ||
| Then others were conflating it with Zelensky last month, saying he wants nuclear weapons and is close to getting nuclear weapons, and then walking it back. | ||
| So I'm reporting on the most respected publication in Germany. | ||
| I just put it on screen for everybody. | ||
| NATO, a session, or nuclear weapon. | ||
| And so NATO is saying, and that's what the diplomats are saying, it's in the news as well, it's not just sources, that either Ukraine is allowed into NATO, Or it's given a nuclear weapon. | ||
| And that was a headline a few weeks ago. | ||
| The one last week was Ukraine to have nuclear weapons in two weeks. | ||
| Okay, so that's two separate stories. | ||
| And people then went with community notes and said, no, this was last month. | ||
| Zelensky said he wants nukes. | ||
| But then he walked it back. | ||
| That's a separate story. | ||
| From the build story. | ||
| So overhead shot. | ||
| I'll show you the build story and reports on the build story. | ||
| So here's Elon Musk asking NATO plans to give Ukraine nuclear weapons. | ||
| Is this accurate? | ||
| Community notes. | ||
| He asked community notes to check into what I was saying, which is a good question. | ||
| And then here's some of the build articles that are being confused with the one from last week. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Ukraine claims it could have nuclear weapons within weeks. | ||
| Build. | ||
| Ukraine pushes back on weapons of mass destruction report. | ||
| That's a few days ago. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| So we're reporting on that. | ||
| Then there's Zelensky. | ||
| Ukraine will seek nuclear weapons if it cannot join NATO. | ||
| London Telegraph. | ||
| So we're talking about different stories here. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| That's what's going on. | ||
| I'm reporting on BUILD. | ||
| I didn't just pull that out of my ass. | ||
| So Alex has been heavily pushing the narrative that NATO is going to give Ukraine nukes so they can bomb Russia. | ||
| He's been sensationalizing headlines based mostly on Zelensky's comments at a meeting of the European Council, and now Elon has tweeted about this, which threatens to take the narrative outside of Alex's sphere of influence. | ||
| If some globalists at Media Matters or the SPLC debunk one of Alex's claims, the audience is not going to give a shit, and they'll go on trusting Alex. | ||
| However, he's built up Elon Musk in a way that makes him a little bit threatening. | ||
| If Musk tweets about this and it becomes too clear that Alex has been sensationalizing and making shit up to scare people, the audience might actually take that seriously. | ||
| Because Alex likes Elon Musk's approach towards facilitating bullshit and harassment on Twitter, he's had to pretend that community notes are great. | ||
| It's a democratized way for truth to be spread, which is all fun and games until the thing that you're saying is shown to be bullshit by that very system. | ||
| And so, Alex is playing a little bit of defense. | ||
| It's very easy to hear his narrative and say, oh, it's just him sensationalizing comments Zelensky made, which is why Alex is trying to distinguish between these two stories. | ||
| So that's one of the stories, but the one that he's talking about is a different story from Build. | ||
| So I'm just going to go ahead and read to you the start of the article and build that Alex is talking about. | ||
| Quote, a bombshell from Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky on the sidelines of the UN summit in Brussels. | ||
| He made it clear how his country wants to protect itself from Russia in the future. | ||
| Either NATO quickly accepts his country into the alliance, or Ukraine will once again become a nuclear power. | ||
| The article continues, quote, This article is about Zelensky's comments at the EU. | ||
| In the context of discussing that, Bild mentions, quote, What a high-ranking Ukrainian official hinted at to Bild and other politicians and officials several months ago. | ||
| This official was said to have commented, quote, we have the material, we have the knowledge. | ||
| If the order is given, we will only need a few weeks to make the first bomb. | ||
| This comment from the Ukrainian official is the second story that Alex is pretending he's actually covering. | ||
| But he's got it all wrong, and it was just background context in this Build article that's actually about the story that he's pretending not to be covering. | ||
| But you get the defensiveness, because... | ||
| What we kind of have felt for a long time isn't correct. | ||
| He is worried about Twitter people piling on to him and community notes explaining what he's lying about. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's scared. | ||
| I... | ||
| Elon asking in... | ||
| I mean, I guess he's actually asking, is this accurate? | ||
| I want an apology from every writer for the past 20 or 30 years who's ever said he's smart. | ||
| I want everybody who wrote like, oh, he's the real Iron Man. | ||
| I want them fired. | ||
| I want them disgraced. | ||
| I want their books burned. | ||
| Every financial writer out there who's like, Elon Musk is a good businessman should have to look at that tweet. | ||
| Asking Alex Jones, is this accurate? | ||
| And then quit their fucking job because they should be embarrassed about themselves. | ||
| Well, I'm guessing that what he kind of hoped is that there would be some kind of a weird pedantic technicality. | ||
| That the community notes would say, oh, this is true. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So people would just gloss over it and see like, oh, it's been confirmed by the fact check folks. | ||
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| Or whatever. | ||
| But unfortunately, it went the other direction. | ||
| And the community note is that Alex is wrong. | ||
| I mean, I think my demands remain the same. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I just think it's interesting that Alex has a real defensiveness about this. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It is interesting. | ||
| And I think it carries out throughout this episode. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So I was reporting on all of these developments, and people saw the headline, Ukraine may get nuclear weapons, and they went, well, where's the proof? | ||
| And then they went and found Zelensky a month ago saying, I want nuclear weapons, and we'll have nuclear weapons, and if you don't let us into NATO, we'll get nuclear weapons. | ||
| And then NATO's made similar statements. | ||
| Well, fine, if you don't let them into NATO, if you try to stand in the way, we'll just give nuclear weapons. | ||
| And Russia's already given nuclear weapons to Belarus, so this is getting out of control very, very quickly. | ||
| So that's what I'm reporting on. | ||
| So nothing. | ||
| So NATO did not say we're going to give them nukes. | ||
| That's nonsense. | ||
| Alex is making that up. | ||
| But also, shouldn't Alex have a huge problem with the idea of Russia giving Belarus nukes? | ||
| Seems like that's not what international cool guy and all-around chill friend Vladimir Putin should be doing, right? | ||
| I mean, the image that Alex presents of him is not like the guy who's going to give Belarus nukes. | ||
| Sure, sure, but I mean, like, I don't know. | ||
| I don't understand any of these conversations, ultimately, because it sounds like people are saying we're going to move nuclear weapons so they will hit you five minutes faster or slower because we want you to invade or not invade. | ||
| That doesn't make any sense to me. | ||
| No. | ||
| I mean, it doesn't make any real sense, because we don't want them to have nukes, is like the idea being that if Ukraine... | ||
| has unilateral control over a nuke, then they would be able to defend themselves without NATO by using the threat of, like, a North Korea, in essence becoming their own rogue state, right? | ||
| So we don't want Ukraine to have nuclear weapons because then Russia couldn't invade them and there wouldn't be any pressure from NATO to have Ukraine join them. | ||
| But at the same time, we don't want Belarus having nukes because that's a proxy for Putin to give his nukes to Belarus, putting them a little bit closer, maybe avoiding a... | ||
| The point is, all of this is essentially, people are bored. | ||
| There is nothing going on. | ||
| Nothing is happening. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| At least if you just take this from Alex's perspective. | ||
| Certainly, you're seeing a bit of boredom from him. | ||
| I'm putting missiles on a truck is still not exciting to me. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| If that's even happening. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Right. | ||
| This might all be in Alex's head. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's mad that... | ||
| People community noted. | ||
| Absurd. | ||
| And I think the problem is that Elon posted about it. | ||
| I think so, too. | ||
| Because that's what brings that community note there and makes it, like, much more prominent that, oh, here's the community note saying that Alex's story is inaccurate. | ||
| It would not be seen by nearly as many people if Elon hadn't tweeted that. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And isn't Alex, isn't your first thought if you're Alex, like, do you not understand the game? | ||
| Like, in a genuine way. | ||
| Are you? | ||
| Because that would be the startling realization if I'm Alex is like, oh no, not only is he dumber than I thought, he's dumber than everybody thought. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So we get back to an old voter fraud story because we're coming up on the election. | ||
| Everybody knows the term gaslighting. | ||
| And it's when a bunch of people basically get around you and tell you something that you know is true isn't. | ||
| And that works on weak-minded people. | ||
| Like a Jedi mind trick. | ||
| It'd be like if you're watching me on television in a room full of people right now, and you say, Alex Jones is wearing a dark blue shirt, and he has a blue background. | ||
| And you're in a room with two people, and they go, no, Bob, or no, Carol, or no, whatever your name is, Alex Jones is wearing a red shirt. | ||
| You go, no, it's a blue shirt. | ||
| They go, you're crazy. | ||
| And then when Trump saw the election stolen in 2020, and all the evidence has now proved it was worse than what we've said, illegals voting, dead people voting, ballot box stuffing, keeping the polls going for days, you know, with ballots only marked for Joe Biden, with not even signatures being checked. | ||
| Violating law, the judges said, we're not going to look at that when Trump would go file in court. | ||
| They'd say, we don't have jurisdiction. | ||
| The Justice Department, the FBI ran around. | ||
| One of these different postal workers, multiple ones in Pennsylvania and other states, said, yeah, I was driving down to New York into there, and I pulled up and sat there for like six hours. | ||
| Remember, the guy did press conferences, and I thought, this is weird, because he was watching all these other things being unloaded, looked like ballots being brought into his warehouse. | ||
| He said, I'm going to look in the back of the mail. | ||
| They have that authorization. | ||
| He was also an inspector. | ||
| He had that authorization. | ||
| Opens it up, and it's all marked just for Joe Biden. | ||
| And he goes, whoa, this is crazy. | ||
| And then he does a press conference, the FBI comes and threatens him, but he's since testified to Congress and legislatures, and it's all confirmed. | ||
| Okay, so this is about a single guy named Richard Hopkins, who is a mail carrier in Erie, Pennsylvania, that was interviewed by Project Veritas after the 2020 election. | ||
| He made claims about overhearing the postmaster discussing a conspiracy to backdate ballots in order to get more votes for Biden. | ||
| This claim caught fire with the dipshit Alex-type media who just assumed its accuracy because it made them feel good when in reality all evidence was pointing at them being losers. | ||
| But in addition to being a huge publicity stunt, these allegations were really serious. | ||
| If what Hopkins was saying was true, then this isn't something you can just let slide. | ||
| So the USPS did a thorough investigation of the matter. | ||
| They found that there was no evidence of his claims, and in the process of the investigation, Hopkins recanted his story, saying that he'd just seen the postmaster talking to someone and assumed that it was about backdating ballots. | ||
| In essence, upon questioning by someone who wasn't James O 'Keefe, this guy's story began to change because he was full of shit. | ||
| As he told them, quote, I didn't specifically hear the whole story. | ||
| I just heard a part of it, and I could have missed a lot of it. | ||
| My mind probably added the rest. | ||
| And then the postmaster Robert Weizenbach, a noted Trump supporter himself, sued James O 'Keefe and Project Veritas because their story ruined his reputation and caused him to be the target of a ton of harassment. | ||
| O 'Keefe, Veritas, and Hopkins all had to admit as part of the settlement that the story was baseless. | ||
| But this shit is profitable. | ||
| And so, you know, the game was supposed to go a little bit differently. | ||
| It just didn't play out as planned. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| Yeah, coming and going. | ||
| Unfortunately, Hopkins revealed to the investigators that he was recording them, and they didn't care. | ||
| But because he was recording, that tape became a part of the investigation. | ||
| Before, O 'Keefe could have had editorial control over what got released, so he could tell whatever story he wanted. | ||
| But now the USPS had the raw footage, which made Hopkins look really bad as a source. | ||
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| Hopkins had set up a give-send-go page and raised about a quarter of a million dollars based on claims that he'd made about this voter fraud. | ||
| So obviously this wasn't something you could just say, oops, about and then move on. | ||
| But once he decided to record the USPS investigators without their consent, he'd entered into... | ||
| really dangerous territory. | ||
| If he revealed what he was doing, the power of the propaganda story fell apart. | ||
| But if he didn't tell them and then O'Keefe released the video of their interview, he'd probably go to jail because he didn't have permission to record that. | ||
| Anyway, O 'Keefe got sued and had to put out a statement on February 6th, 2024. | ||
| Quote, neither Mr. Weisenbach nor any other USPS employee in Erie, Pennsylvania, engaged in election fraud or any other wrongdoing related to mail-in ballots. | ||
| Alex has created his own fun story to add on top of it, but it's all bullshit. | ||
| In effect, he's gaslighting the audience. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| Ironic. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Man. | ||
| So, it must be, like, if you're Hopkins. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I feel for him just in a certain way because it's like all of the government is coming down on him and he's just got to be like, man, I was just talking shit. | ||
| Everybody else I see talking shit all over the place like this and none of them got in trouble. | ||
| Well, he got exploited by Project Veritas in a way that maybe he was willing. | ||
| To participate in, but hadn't thought it out. | ||
| No, absolutely not. | ||
| Because the state and the government is not coming down on him. | ||
| They're taking his claim seriously. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| Like, if what you're saying is true, we must behave this way. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We must grill you. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And we have to figure out, we gotta grill those other people too. | ||
| We gotta figure out what's going on. | ||
| You have started a whole process that you don't think exists. | ||
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| And here it is! | ||
| And because it does, unfortunately, your claim isn't going to stand up to the scrutiny. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's an unfortunate situation. | ||
| And James O 'Keefe's the only one who's really coming out of this profiting. | ||
| That does seem like... | ||
| It seems like that should have been one of those old-timey, like, two armies are on the field of battle. | ||
| And then the two guys come out to the center, and then one of them just looks over and is like, oh yeah, it's just me and Terrence over there. | ||
| And then the other guy has an army, and they're like, fine. | ||
| I was just talking shit, man. | ||
| My bad. | ||
| My bad. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| You guys win. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| You shouldn't have to go through the whole investigation, but you have to, because you can't not. | ||
| Yeah, and because you decided to record in that investigation room. | ||
| It's just you and Terrence, man. | ||
| They got an army. | ||
| So Marjorie Taylor Greene was on. | ||
| We heard that. | ||
| And the left, after her interview, they said she was crazy. | ||
| Can you believe that? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They're saying in Texas, again, three weeks ago, and we have video from the Secretary of State and the statement saying, yeah, if somebody has a non-citizen ID, we're going to let them vote. | ||
| And then you point that out, and the left runs around saying, they're insane. | ||
| MTG's insane. | ||
| You know, that trended one of the top stories over the weekend. | ||
| MTG on the show Friday. | ||
| She's on tomorrow. | ||
| And she just said, I've got constituents coming to me. | ||
| And they're sending her the messages where it happened saying I vote Republican and it flips it to Democrat. | ||
| And then no sooner had she said that, that reports came in all over the country and the same thing happened. | ||
| So Alex is rewriting history here a bit. | ||
| In effect, gaslighting the audience. | ||
| MTG didn't say that she was getting a ton of reports of votes being switched. | ||
| She very specifically said that a friend of hers saw a post on social media that made this claim, and there was no proof beyond that. | ||
| Now, about that thing about the Texas Secretary of State. | ||
| Alex is once again lying. | ||
| Texas issues temporary driver's licenses to non-citizen legal residents of the state so they can drive. | ||
| Generally speaking, this license would be a perfectly fine way to prove your identity. | ||
| A video went around social media of a guy in Denton, Texas, discussing how poll workers might run into these IDs and that they can be accepted. | ||
| Naturally, the dipshits like Alex and MTG had a field day with this and it went around like what you're hearing. | ||
| This guy was saying that the voter registration workers might run into this type of ID because some citizens have them. | ||
| For example, you might be someone who has got one of these licenses, and then you become a naturalized citizen, and thus you can vote. | ||
| If you haven't gotten a new license yet, this might be your primary form of ID, even though you're a citizen. | ||
| This is why the Texas Secretary of State said that this was not a preferred form of ID to participate in elections, but that it's normally a valid ID. | ||
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After all these idiots started going wild on Twitter and claiming that the Secretary of State was saying that non-citizens could vote, the office came out with a very clear explanation that if someone presents this as their ID to register to vote, Texas requires them to also provide naturalization documents to demonstrate that they are a citizen and haven't gotten a new ID yet. | |
| Alex is lying about this story because he's not covering the actual story. | ||
| He's covering... | ||
| People's stupid posts on Twitter about this and pretending that it means something. | ||
| This is nonsense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You look into it a tiny bit, you have no reason to come out with the kind of conceptions that Alex and MTG have, because it's motivated. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| When people are calling her insane, it should be Alex who's calling her insane. | ||
| Like, you, at the very least, be like, I would want a more circumspect devil. | ||
| Instead of one who's just out here like, eh, we're stealing the election. | ||
| Go fuck yourself. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, just aim higher. | ||
| I'm not asking for Sherlock, for God's sakes, but I mean, higher than some... | ||
| Douchebag just being like, I'm jerking off on your face! | ||
| Like, no! | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| You cracked the damn case. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Dream big, man! | ||
| So Alex has also some thoughts here about how non-citizens can sometimes vote in local elections. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And that's no good. | ||
| You got Democrats everywhere saying, oh, we have initiatives for migrants, illegal aliens, to vote in our towns. | ||
| They go, oh, but it's only in local elections. | ||
| Well, how many local elections aren't held on the general election or the off-year election? | ||
| Almost all of them are. | ||
| Every once in a while, there's a weird special election if somebody dies or resigns. | ||
| So this is going on, as Elon Musk has pointed out, as I've pointed out, as Trump's pointed out. | ||
| So this is a really good clip that illustrates the disconnect Alex has with actual civics and how he takes advantage of the audience's lack of interest in reality. | ||
| It does kind of feel like you end up voting for a bunch of stuff in general elections other than the president, so when Alex says that local elections are always held with the general elections, it kind of feels true. | ||
| The audience can just gnaw along and be convinced that allowing non-citizen permanent residents to vote in local elections is clearly a plot to secretly let them vote in the general election. | ||
| It feels right, so Alex has proven his case. | ||
| However, all that's being shown is a lack of understanding of the real mechanisms of politics. | ||
| Local elections are not always or even frequently held at the same time as the federal general election. | ||
| It feels like an efficient way to do things, but it's not how elections work, and Alex would not be able to get away with this embarrassing level of being uninformed if the audience knew what he was talking about. | ||
| For instance, one of the places that Alex likes to complain about is Montpelier, Vermont. | ||
| They're one of the places that is allowed non-citizen voting. | ||
| They passed that law that non-citizens can vote in local elections. | ||
| These local elections are held for things like city council members and take place in March every year. | ||
| With the general elections. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| By far the biggest controversy around the non-citizen voting stuff, it revolved around San Francisco, where they passed Prop N in 2016. | ||
| This allowed non-citizen permanent residents to vote specifically only in school board elections. | ||
| These elections actually are held every two years, and they're held at the same time as general and midterm elections. | ||
| So you have to ask, how could they possibly keep all this separated? | ||
| And if you're curious about this at all, you can look at the San Francisco city government's election webpage and easily find that a, quote, one card ballot for non-citizen voters will list the board of election Great. | ||
| Dumb shit. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Just infuriating. | ||
| I feel like we need... | ||
| Okay, because this is the reveal of why all of this shit happens. | ||
| Not knowing anything? | ||
| I mean like the ID, like needing the ID and all this stuff. | ||
| Put your money where your mouth is. | ||
| Let's have a practice election where everybody can fucking vote. | ||
| Everybody can just vote. | ||
| It's not a binding election. | ||
| We're just going to see what happens if everybody can vote. | ||
| With no IDs or anything like that and see where it goes and see if it's fucking chaos or whatever. | ||
| And I would guarantee a million billion times out of a hundred, it's going to be fine. | ||
| It's going to be similar, if not the exact same, if not more democratic and more reflective of the way that you will ostensibly want democracy to work. | ||
| Yeah, it'll be a slight variation on what happens in normal elections. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But by having all the IDs, you can do all this shit, and then you can have the voter ID laws that are so vague that you have to have courts go to tell you not to do them so you have papers report on how you tried to do the vague thing, and the court saying that everybody's wasting everybody's goddamn time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you have all these initiatives to kick people off voter rolls this close to the election, and these are not sincere efforts to clean up voter rolls. | ||
| No! | ||
| Intentionally trying to kick a bunch of people off and they won't have time to clear it up before the election. | ||
| And in effect, you disenfranchise a ton of people from voting. | ||
| And then when courts strike down your purge of these voter rolls, you'll be like, they don't even want to clean it up. | ||
| They want to put these illegal voters back in. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| It's just a nonsense game. | ||
| Just get rid of all of it. | ||
| Everybody vote. | ||
| It's very transparent. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| So the defensiveness keeps going. | ||
| And extends to people talking shit about Marjorie Taylor Greene coming on and talking shit. | ||
| Marjorie Taylor Greene pushes claim Dominion machines are switching votes to Democrats in wild Alex Jones interview. | ||
| And then they're all like, we're going to sue Alex Jones. | ||
| We're going to sue her. | ||
| I just had a congresswoman on to say what her constituents are telling. | ||
| You're allowed to do that. | ||
| That's free speech. | ||
| Oh, but they don't want it looked into. | ||
| Biden says he's concerned about what they're going to do. | ||
| Biden warns election may be violent. | ||
| Remember that three weeks ago? | ||
| And now here's some of the other headlines. | ||
| DNC announces initiative innovative six-figure investment in Democrats abroad to ensure engagement of key voters living outside the U.S. Oh, people abroad. | ||
| 25% of Georgia lives abroad, BS. | ||
| What? | ||
| What? | ||
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| And so he's getting a bit defensive about it. | ||
| Isn't it a sitting congressperson's right of free speech to get on a shithead's radio show and accuse a real company of stealing an election and overthrowing a country's government based on an unverified thing her friend claims to have seen on Twitter? | ||
| Are we not a Well... | ||
| It took a long time to figure out where Alex was getting that idea that 25% of Georgia voters live abroad. | ||
| That is interesting. | ||
| I was like, what the fuck? | ||
| I would like to know more about that. | ||
| It took forever tracing down. | ||
| Because what even is it? | ||
| I legitimately thought for a while that he'd mixed up the state Georgia and the country Georgia. | ||
| And the country Georgia, that's what I thought. | ||
| Because they just had an election, too. | ||
| I feel like he's sloppy enough that he would make that mistake. | ||
| But as it turns out, this is about Brad Raffensperger, the Secretary of State of Georgia, saying that they instituted this new law, SB 189, that makes it so, quote, all early votes and all early accepted ballots have to have their results reported by 8 p.m. | ||
| That 70, maybe 75% of the vote totals will be reported no later than 8 p.m. on election night. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So one of the reasons that some votes won't be counted that night is that votes from military and citizens living abroad, they have until Friday to arrive. | ||
| So Alex and his dumb friends have decided that Raffensperger is saying that 25% of the voters in the election are going to be these overseas voters. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is a result of Alex lacking very elementary reasoning skills. | ||
| Raffensperger estimated that 70-70% of the votes will be counted by 8pm on election night, not that 25% would be a mystery until Friday's deadline. | ||
| He was saying that all early votes and early accepted ballots would be counted by 8 p.m. and that a proportion of the in-person votes would be counted by then, and that would likely add up to about 70-75% of the total votes that would be cast in the election. | ||
| Some of the rest of the 25-30% would be these oversee ballots that have the Friday deadline. | ||
| Some of them would also be in-person votes that remain to be counted that night later into the evening. | ||
| The new law, SB 189, only mandates that these early votes have their results reported by the 8 p.m. deadline, whereas regular voting could go on a little later into the night. | ||
| This is very simple to understand, and if you're curious and asking a sincere question, you'll find and understand the answer easily. | ||
| In order to reach the conclusion Alex is, he has to either be a complete idiot who is not capable of any kind of critical thinking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| that he's reporting on his show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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The article Alex is skimming, the headline there about the DNC has to do with them investing in a group called Democrats Abroad, which is focused on mobilizing voters overseas like military members. | |
| Do you think they shouldn't vote, Alex? | ||
| They're not in the country! | ||
| They're illegal immigrants! | ||
| There are about 9 million eligible voters who live outside the United States, and only 8% of them were registered in 2020, so raising their engagement rate seems like a good possible electoral strategy. | ||
| And according to that article that Alex is citing, there are approximately 295,000 Georgia voters who live abroad, which is not 25% of the eligible voters in the state. | ||
| There are over 7 million active voters. | ||
| Well, it makes the most sense. | ||
| And there was actually even some articles that were... | ||
| Pretty recent about the country of Georgia having more outside the country polling places. | ||
| See? | ||
| Because they do have an expat population. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| And so, like, I was like, is it possible that this is what is being miscommunicated? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It took a while to get that context. | ||
| That makes so much more direct one-to-one sense than the... | ||
| Pretzel it takes to get to 25% out of what Raffensperger said. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's absurd. | ||
| Well, and it's such a basic, stupid misinterpretation of what he's saying. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| That you really have to want to believe that conclusion. | ||
| Yeah, it's a pie graph that a child would be like, no, no, no, let me explain where you got that wrong. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, he's just defensive as shit, I feel, on this episode. | ||
| So let's play some of the clips I mentioned here. | ||
| And if you're a new listener, I noticed some of the comments last week because three weeks ago I covered it. | ||
| Two weeks ago I played the clips from the news. | ||
| And then when I mentioned it, I still see comments going, Texas Secretary of State didn't say people with non-citizen IDs can vote. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| You want me to show you the articles or videos again? | ||
| Go look it up yourselves, okay? | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| Did you get another community note? | ||
| It would be so funny if Elon Musk's hands-off approach to fact-checking and moderation of content in any way on Twitter accidentally destroyed Alex's business model. | ||
| Absurd. | ||
| And it's all in his head, too. | ||
| Everyone will have forgotten about it tomorrow. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is what day is this from? | ||
| This is from the 21st. | ||
| Nobody remembers. | ||
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| Nobody. | ||
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| Elon Musk doesn't remember. | ||
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| Alex doesn't remember. | ||
| There's no reason to ever feel defensive about something that you lied about, ever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Especially 30 years into this game or whatever that Alex is in. | ||
| Yeah, it's so bizarre to see how much this struck a nerve. | ||
| Right! | ||
| I mean, because it's tomorrow. | ||
| We live in Groundhog Day with these people. | ||
| They do not remember what happened the day before. | ||
| It's a brand new day. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Biden turned on Harris and was working to help Trump, and then I guess, uh-oh, whoops, no, he's not. | ||
| Are you telling me that an is-this-accurate would have shut that whole narrative into a fucking tizzy? | ||
| If Elon tweeted it, yes. | ||
| Because Alex has made Elon too important. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| Of course it's not accurate, goddammit! | ||
| Dammit, Elon! | ||
| I've said this repeatedly. | ||
| This is the wrong position for the conspiracy theorist. | ||
| It is! | ||
| Siding with Elon like this is a bad move. | ||
| And this is part of the subsidiary consequences of it. | ||
| He has made him credible to his audience in a way that this fact-checking could fuck you over. | ||
| You know, I mean, if you want to go even simpler and more just like purely elemental with it, you know, when Alex is fighting against George W. Bush, when you say it's me against the devil, it helps if you've got the devil on the other team. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's much more believable than if you're like, hey, it's me and the devil versus the devil. | ||
| No! | ||
| You're with Elon fucking Musk, man! | ||
| Yeah, it's true. | ||
| And then also the devil is like... | ||
| The other devil, the one you're fighting, is like Klaus Schwab. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| If you're gonna be against the devil, pick a devil! | ||
| It would help. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| So, you know, I think there's a lot of people who, you know, the auction's coming up for Alex and he's gonna have his business sold. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And a lot of people are like, hey, Elon Musk should just buy it. | ||
| Because Alex kisses his ass all the time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I make the point that... | ||
| That's why Elon Musk shouldn't buy it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because he doesn't own it now, and look at this. | ||
| I've got a big New York Times article where they're bragging about the thousands of lawsuits the Democrats and feds have filed on Elon Musk and their lawfare plan to bring him down. | ||
| Support Elon Musk and his Starlink is an incredible product. | ||
| We use it. | ||
| Works great. | ||
| Just get it. | ||
| Support his other endeavors. | ||
| If you don't back people that are the good guys, you're insane. | ||
| This is an economic, cultural, spiritual, political, ecclesiastical war. | ||
| And you better choose a side is all I'm saying. | ||
| So this clip is a good illustration of why, like, it's just a waste for Elon to buy InfoWars, even though he could afford it very easily. | ||
| Like, what would the point even be? | ||
| Alex is already doing a ton of free advertising, and he's clearly deeply addicted to Twitter. | ||
| There's no upside to buying it. | ||
| You just take on liabilities and responsibilities and associations you don't actually want. | ||
| The dom does not pay the sub. | ||
| That's not how this transaction works, my friend. | ||
| You pay the dom! | ||
| Also, what is an ecclesiastical war? | ||
| Letter writing? | ||
| I feel like he just uses that word as a replacement for religious. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, I'm not sure what the difference between an ecclesiastical war and a holy war might be, but just do a crusade already, dumbass! | ||
| It feels like he thinks that ecclesiastes just means Bible. | ||
| Well, I mean, it has a Christian connotation to it, but just a... | ||
| Just a fucking... | ||
| It's such a dodge that isn't working. | ||
| Just say you're in a holy war, man. | ||
| Put on swords. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, we're all talking about imaginary people at this point. | ||
| Nobody's gonna deal with reality. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| I think that Alex wants to say we're in an ecclesiastical war, but doesn't want to own actually saying we're in a fucking holy war. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I am running a crusade, basically. | ||
| Right, well, if you say that I am running a crusade, then you have to behave like you're running a crusade. | ||
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| And not a quote-unquote ecclesiastical war. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's much more palatable that way, and you can join the Alex Jones VIP Ecclesiastical War Club. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| Well, and I mean, just for the people who watch the show, like, oh, we're in a crusade. | ||
| Are we? | ||
| Then why aren't you actually fighting? | ||
| Why are you doing the exact same thing you were doing two weeks ago when we weren't in a crusade? | ||
| You have to change things up if you change the word. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you're in a crusade, why aren't you conquering a city? | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jerusalem is still out there. | ||
| I think fucking Saladin is coming back. | ||
| Let's go! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, it's an ecclesiastical word, so that means we can just talk shit and sell moss. | ||
| Yeah, that works. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| So anyway, you take some calls and I don't really give a shit. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| So you got your trip. | ||
| I do. | ||
| And so I'm going to make this my goal. | ||
| What's your goal? | ||
| And I'm going to speak this into existence. | ||
| Speak it into existence. | ||
| I am going to get up to current. | ||
| For when you get back. | ||
| While you're gone, I'm going to be a busy beaver. | ||
| I mean, I'm only gone for one day. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Honestly, I'm not even gone for 24 hours. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I'm going to make the most of it. | ||
| You better hurry. | ||
| Or maybe not. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
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We'll see. | |
| We'll catch up. | ||
| I would have maybe covered more, but Alex says the Marjorie Taylor Greene's coming back on it. | ||
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Oh my God. | |
| You can't do two in one. | ||
| No, can't do a... | ||
| So, yeah, we'll be back with another episode, but until then... | ||
| We have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I am the mysterious professor. | ||
| Woo! | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Woo! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Woo! | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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