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Oct. 18, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
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#973: October 10-14, 2024

Knowledge Fight #973 dissects Alex Jones’ October 2024 rants, where he falsely claims Joe Biden is sabotaging Kamala Harris’s campaign—distorting her Hurricane Milton call and pushing debunked election fraud narratives. He pivots to bizarre threats like globalists triggering nuclear war or "green-pilled" ideology, then promotes his store while mocking critics as cowards. The episode highlights his reliance on unverified Twitter conspiracies, transphobic "mutant" rhetoric, and a doomed November 13th prophecy about losing InfoWars, revealing a pattern of performative outrage over substance. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
a
alex jones
infowars 28:48
d
dan friesen
44:42
j
jordan holmes
23:56
Appearances
Clips
j
joe biden
00:14
l
lyndon b johnson
00:16
p
pastor rodney howard-browne
00:13
Callers
andy in kansas
callers 00:06
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
alex jones
Knowledgeparty.com.
It's time to pray.
unidentified
And I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
alex jones
Shang, we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
Reddler, rattler, rattler.
alex jones
I need, I need money.
Andy and Panzer.
unidentified
Andy and Pandy.
jordan holmes
Stop.
alex jones
Andy and Panzer.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the airplane for all of us.
andy in kansas
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fish ten colour saying I love your room.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
I'm Dan.
dan friesen
I'm Jordan.
We're a couple dudes.
Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Joe's.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
Today, my bright spot, I've brought along a visual aid and a gift for you.
jordan holmes
Oh, it is the leftover fluffer nutter cookies.
dan friesen
I know you're a peanut butter fan.
I didn't know if you were a fluffer-nutter.
jordan holmes
It's been a long time.
dan friesen
I know we were both fans of Danny Callis's joke about fluffernutter.
But yeah, one of the advantages of the Aldi is that they'll have cookie varieties quite often.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And sometimes they're a bit ambitious.
And so you'll have to give them a try.
jordan holmes
Maybe too ambitious.
dan friesen
But I saw Fluffer Nutter cookies and I was like, this is crazy stuff.
It is.
And so I tried it.
I saved those two for you because they were that good.
And I thought that you would really like them.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I could have eaten them.
jordan holmes
I believe.
No, I agree.
dan friesen
I would have given you the whole pack, but I wanted to try it.
unidentified
And you don't have a sweet tooth.
jordan holmes
I get it.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
I feel like I gave you a look that had more feeling in it than it did.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
It was disappointing.
I was calling it the leftovers.
jordan holmes
No, I'm great.
Did I call it the leftovers?
All right.
I'm grateful.
I wish I could be more grateful immediately.
It's just always strange whenever somebody hands you a half-empty plastic container.
unidentified
I understand.
dan friesen
Like, you know, you gave me a donut.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
It's not like you're giving it to me in the box of the half dozen that just has one left.
jordan holmes
It feels like it's an afterthought.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Totally, I get it.
unidentified
You know what?
dan friesen
That's a packaging issue, and that's on me.
unidentified
It's a packaging issue.
dan friesen
I'll take this note.
jordan holmes
It's a packaging issue.
That's fair.
I'm very grateful.
I'm going to enjoy them.
dan friesen
You rock them.
jordan holmes
I feel like I'm on the defensive.
dan friesen
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is twofold.
One, I just showed you before we started recording.
Got my second session of the light piece.
dan friesen
Serious.
jordan holmes
Gorgeous.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Very beautiful.
dan friesen
Full-on leg shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you're looking for a tattoo in Andersonville, evoke tattoos.
Go for it.
My second aspect of that bright spot, sub-bright spot, new Godspeed You Black Emperor album.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Fucking fantastic to listen to while getting a tattoo.
dan friesen
Okay, that's how it connects.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's great.
dan friesen
Awesome.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm glad you enjoyed it.
jordan holmes
All-around great day.
dan friesen
It looks great.
I'm happy for you.
Is there more?
Is there another session or are we done?
jordan holmes
We almost finished it, but another time tunnel tie-in.
Oh, God.
You know what?
The most painful part of any tattoo I've ever received is literally my Achilles.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
It was literally like, as it was happening, I was like, this is the most painful thing.
And she's like, you're Achilles healed.
And I was like, no!
dan friesen
This is from an episode that has not come out yet.
Not yet, but it is forthcoming.
Yeah.
More time issues.
Gosh damn.
Well, something that's not my bright spot, Jordan, is this episode today because it sucks.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
Sucks bad.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Real bad.
Yeah.
I mean, I can't even begin to tell you.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Bad.
jordan holmes
What kind of, what kind of bad, like, boring or like, oh, boy, we're going to get into some real bad shit.
dan friesen
More of the latter.
unidentified
Shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we'll get down to all that.
But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walks.
jordan holmes
It's a great idea.
dan friesen
So, first, this is your wife.
I'm in disguise.
I'm here to tell you that your mommy is broken.
Please read that in your best Gilbert Godfrey voice.
Too late.
This is your wife.
No, I don't know how to do it.
jordan holmes
Do you do not for Gilbert Godfrey?
dan friesen
You're not a policy walk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
What did he say?
jordan holmes
Gilbert Godfrey?
What did he say?
dan friesen
Made a noise, right?
jordan holmes
Let me see if I can find it.
Too bad.
No, I got it.
dan friesen
You don't have one either?
jordan holmes
I got nothing.
I got nothing.
I think I had it at a time.
unidentified
Next.
dan friesen
Shout out to Dr. Pickles.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy walk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
alex jones
Thank you.
dan friesen
And Ben a wonk for years, finally requesting a shout out.
Can you make it to quote-unquote Rob?
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy walk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Quite an alias.
And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to, oh, I read ahead in this one.
alex jones
Happy birthday, Ari.
dan friesen
A fantastic friend, artist, and the reason why I knowledge fight is my entire personality.
I love you.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
alex jones
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Sharp.
Bomb, Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser, little, little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
I realize I might have fucked that one up too because that just said in Alex Jones' voice in parentheses, but it might have just been after the I love you.
I might have been able to say the rest of it, not interesting.
Shit.
jordan holmes
He's blowing it together.
dan friesen
The packaging, the bad accent.
That's worse.
jordan holmes
Listen, you're doing great.
You're doing great.
There's no need to elevate these beyond anything that they are.
dan friesen
Now, okay.
Well, let's get to this trash episode.
jordan holmes
I think that's a good idea.
dan friesen
So it starts off here.
We're going to be talking about October 10th through 14th 2024.
That is the end of last week.
Hoping we can get maybe up to current on Monday or so.
Sure.
But this is interesting, the way that Alex is trying to position things about the 2024 election.
There's a take that he has that goes throughout this that I think is stupid.
alex jones
I reserved judgment on this the last two weeks.
I said it appears he is turning against Kamala.
In fact, three weeks ago, when he put the MAGA hat on and then walked up Air Force One with it.
But I said, let's see.
And then at least in 20 different press conferences or statements or events or announcements he's made, presentations, addresses, he has undermined her systematically.
So he could stick a fork in it.
He came out and said, DeSantis is great.
He's doing a great job.
We talk all the time.
Kamala doesn't talk to him.
She's a liar.
DeSantis is doing a great job.
I mean, I've got the video right here.
He literally rammed a giant fork in her.
And I was really thinking about this last night and this morning.
I'm 98% sure of what's going on.
Now, usually I'm 100%, and I'll tell you when I'm sure.
When I'm not sure, I'll tell you.
But I'm sure, but the power calculus could change again.
But right now, the establishment knows they can't stop Trump.
They already tried to kill him twice.
It failed.
dan friesen
Yeah, at this very second, Alex is assessing that Biden has turned on Kamala Harris.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
Yep.
He is secretly trying to undermine her campaign, and the globalists are cool with it.
jordan holmes
I believe that.
I believe that.
I believe the globalists would be cool with that.
That seems like a globalist thing to do.
dan friesen
How bored is Alex of the actual campaign?
I mean, this is where he's going.
jordan holmes
I think we all are.
I get it.
dan friesen
But we're tired.
jordan holmes
We are very tired.
dan friesen
But having to retreat to this kind of manufactured fantasy drama is just sad.
jordan holmes
Okay, that would be fun.
How, okay, let's say Biden is trying to undermine her.
How many people are involved?
How many people could he tell before it turned into like a thing that we have to deal with?
dan friesen
Wait, how many people could Biden tell?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Well, he could tell Jill.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He could tell Hunter.
jordan holmes
Can't trust Hunter.
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
dan friesen
Hunter and him are tight.
Yeah.
Who could you tell?
jordan holmes
Right?
You can't tell one actual presidential cabinet members.
Can't do it.
None of them would back you on secretly undermining the presidential candidate/slash your own current vice president.
dan friesen
Here's who you tell.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Carville.
jordan holmes
Carville.
dan friesen
James.
jordan holmes
Nobody will believe that, fucker.
dan friesen
He's alive, right?
jordan holmes
He probably.
Actually, I think he just wrote a new book.
dan friesen
Good for him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, don't.
dan friesen
So the issue is that Trump's going to win.
He's going to win by a lanceline.
Damn, Lancelot.
jordan holmes
Billion.
dan friesen
So many people.
jordan holmes
Billion, billion.
dan friesen
And because of that, the devil has decided, oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
We got to bail.
We got to bail.
jordan holmes
Sorry, the devil's bailing.
dan friesen
Yeah, the devil's realize, like, oh, no, no, no.
unidentified
Damn.
dan friesen
It's not working out.
alex jones
And because we're lied to by basically everything by the criminals that have hijacked our government and set up an alternate advanced civilization run by mad scientists, we have to analyze their public behavior versus leaked information, declassified information, and history, then reverse engineer exactly what they're up to.
And that's what I've been doing for 30 and a half years on air.
And by the grace of God and all the great guests and research, we've done the best job out there.
And I don't say that again to toot my horn or brag.
The famous thing, I'm not bragging.
I'm simply giving you a report that we are the best there is.
That means the callers, the guests, the crew, I'm just a small part of this.
Now, we've got a transmission of transmissions for you today.
A lot of the political developments have aligned.
I've got a very clear picture on exactly what's happening right now.
And I've been waiting to bring you this for a few weeks until I was completely sure of it.
But Trump is going to win in a giant landslide.
And the globalists are in disarray, falling apart all over the world.
Sanity is starting to rain.
They're about to try to make a peace deal with Russia that NATO already killed secretly three years ago on the eve of the war starting or accelerating or expanding or becoming public.
It's been going on for 11 years.
And everything they're doing is just in free fall.
And all they can do was start a nuclear war or a total cyber attack or a race war.
And then they're ready for all that.
And they still may try it.
But I'm seeing signs everywhere of partial capitulation by the globalists.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Partial capitulation is happening.
jordan holmes
What is partial capitulation?
dan friesen
It's a way of saying we're winning, but also be scared.
jordan holmes
That's the most annoying couplet of words I've ever heard.
Partial capitulate.
I'm still fighting, but I'll capitulate.
I'll give up.
I give up.
I'll still fight you.
I give up, though.
dan friesen
You know what makes it even stupider?
It's the devil.
jordan holmes
It's the devil.
I do appreciate the devil's plans can be several thousand years old and be foiled at the very last second.
dan friesen
Did I not think this through?
I didn't plan on Elon buying Twitter.
jordan holmes
I never expected God to pull that one out of his back pocket as a Trump card against me, the devil.
dan friesen
So dumb.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, yeah, Alex talks a little bit more about that here: the fact that these plans they had, the devil has.
jordan holmes
They're just gone.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
And right now, the establishment, not just publicly, but behind the scenes and in other movements around the world and here, are starting to retract their offensive proboscis.
They're starting to because it was going into full martial law, nuclear war, crazy town, race war, total collapse, dystopia, which they planned down the road, but they want to be able to control it.
Now they realize you're getting the big enchilada right now.
They're not going to be able to control this thing.
And so they are hearing the alarm bells.
Alert, alert, alert.
And they are trying to decouple.
Abort, Great reset.
Abort.
If there was a sound you could hear in the halls of their command centers, it's red alert, red alert, program failing, mission critical failure, critical failure.
And the AI and all their analysts are coming back saying, nuclear war, we don't survive, everybody kills us.
We could have a nuclear war if we could still maintain control, use every depopulation, and re-emerge with a new civilization, but we can't do it because our cover's been blown.
Shut down operations now.
And they're like, it's too late.
We've already engaged it.
We probably can't stop it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
So, one way or another, your ass is done, New World Order.
Yeah, it'll take some time and it's going to be messy.
And I'm not like a communist or a leftist or an Illuminist that tells you that we're offering some pie in the sky bed of feathers that's going to transport us into Valhalla.
No.
I'm not offering some utopia.
I'm not going to lie to you.
dan friesen
Yeah, Alex isn't promising the audience a utopia.
He just believes that if these guys get in charge, they'll end the threat of all international war.
They'll expose how climate change is a hoax, which will lead to tapping into unlimited energy resources, solving all the world's energy demands.
They'll also take control of the weather weapons to make sure that we never have to deal with natural disasters again.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
They're going to get rid of the Federal Reserve so everyone will be rich again.
jordan holmes
That'll be nice.
dan friesen
And all of this isn't even mentioning all the magic life extension technology that they'll reveal that the globalists have been hoarding all this time.
And what about the shit about colonizing space?
He's literally offering you a pie in the sky.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
You can cook a pie up on the moon.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
Alex's vision of what he's trying to sell the audience is so much more utopian and fantasy-based than anything I've ever heard a communist or socialist say.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know about Illuminists.
I'm not sure I've ever talked to one.
jordan holmes
I don't know about Illuminists.
Did they get a name?
People who believe in the Illuminati or Illuminatist?
dan friesen
Leishop and I have not spoken about his vision for the future.
jordan holmes
Are they like disciples of Illuminati-ism?
dan friesen
I guess.
Maybe Leo Zagami is the last living.
jordan holmes
Well, he is the Messiah.
So if anybody was going to have the proven he is.
So what happened?
First off, why do they program those voices into the alert?
Yeah.
Why program that?
dan friesen
Human touch.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Astonishing.
Second part.
dan friesen
It's calming a little bit because, you know, just the act of hearing alert, alert is like, that's going to make you feel stressed.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So having it be a human voice.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Takes the edge off.
jordan holmes
But I mean, just flashing lights.
dan friesen
Yeah, that is also stressful.
jordan holmes
And it's better than because you're because what if you're deaf?
dan friesen
Yeah.
This is all very dumb.
Yes.
Imagining that the globalists had this plan.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And they got to this point.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And then they're like, oh, shit.
jordan holmes
Abort.
dan friesen
We fucked up.
We've got to abort all of our plans.
jordan holmes
Abort.
dan friesen
How can you, as a self-respecting Alex Jones, think that that isn't part of their plan?
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
The pretending to alert and abort all of their plans, that's got to be part of luring you into a false sense of security, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, what if, but, but what if he feels bad tomorrow, right?
Do they have an un-abort button?
dan friesen
Yeah, I think they might.
jordan holmes
They have to.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What's the point of that button?
Why are there all these buttons?
dan friesen
Well, there's the abort button.
There's the whoops.
Don't abort button.
jordan holmes
That's a good button.
See, now that's a button I approve of.
dan friesen
And then there's the no, no, no, for real button.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's the dangerous button.
You don't want to fuck with that.
There should be keys for that button.
You got to have two keys.
Yeah, that makes sense.
dan friesen
Football.
So Alex is rambling a little bit, as he's known to do.
And he starts.
Let me ask you if you think that this phrase is sexual.
Does this turn you on when you hear someone say balls to the wall?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
No?
jordan holmes
That's not a turn-on.
Isn't that supposed to be like a let's accelerate to the max?
Let's go through this wall.
That's why I'm putting my balls to it.
unidentified
Right, right.
jordan holmes
Not like I'm going to rub my balls against the wall as a like, oh, finally, relief.
alex jones
Hmm.
dan friesen
I'm not sure even your version of it is totally right, but Alex is very defensive about using the term because people might think it's sexual.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
So I spiritually have had this realization the last three weeks.
My intellect has not been ready to deal with it because I'm always pressing the attack on the enemy.
And that doesn't mean we don't need to be 100% balls of the walls here.
I'm telling I was on a talk radio show and I said we got to be balls of the walls.
And a man calling goes, you that sounds sexual.
You're talking about sex.
And I went, no, that's an Air Force term from World War II or Army Air Corps.
When you slam the throttle all the way up to the instrument panel, there's a ball on it.
Balls to the walls.
That's what balls to the walls means.
And we need to be balls to the walls.
You'll get your balls to the walls.
jordan holmes
Are you writing that song now?
unidentified
I'm in with that song.
alex jones
Bottom of the hour.
Great, great political song.
Very well done.
German.
In English.
So they're going to break the chains.
You can't stop them.
God bless them.
They're going to break the chains.
They're going balls to the walls.
All right.
Well, we're balls of the walls around here.
And we've also got Biden completely because he flounders us out of his mind.
The first seven, eight, nine times last month he attacked Harris.
I was like, let me see.
But now CNN's joined in.
Yeah, look, Harris is an idiot.
Oh, Biden's so good.
Biden's positioning himself for Trump pardons.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
That's the game that he's playing.
He's positioning himself for Trump pardons by trying to affect the outcome of the election by turning on his own vice president.
jordan holmes
Right.
Okay.
So he turns on his vice president, thus ensuring that Trump will be elected.
In the time period, in his lame duck period between the election and the inauguration, he's going to pardon Trump people?
dan friesen
No, I think he's going to, like, afterwards, after he leaves office, he'll be able to be like, bro, I did you assault.
jordan holmes
He'll get a pardon.
dan friesen
Yeah, I did you assault.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, that makes way more sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, it came out and was systematically destroying Kamala's cabinet.
Give me a pardon.
And then Trump, of course, will because he's cool.
jordan holmes
I can't think of anyone I would trust less to give me a pardon unless I had devoted roughly 30 to 40 years of my life as his lackey.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, I wouldn't count on it.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Or if I was vaguely popular in the moment.
dan friesen
If I believed everything that Alex was saying, though, what Biden was doing, I would describe that as pretty balls to the wall.
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
Sure.
The idea.
dan friesen
Being the sitting president and trying to sink the ship of your vice president who is running for president out of spite and hoping to get a pardon for hypothetical crimes you've committed.
jordan holmes
It'd be pretty funny.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It would be pretty funny.
dan friesen
That's balls to the wall, man.
jordan holmes
That is an ooh boy.
I don't know if it's a good plan or even an actionable plan, but it's a funny plan.
dan friesen
Sure.
Do you know that song, Balls of the Wall?
jordan holmes
I don't.
dan friesen
It's from 1983 by a band called Accept.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait.
jordan holmes
Accept as an accept or accept as an accept.
A-C-C-E-P-T.
Right, right, right, right.
Okay.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That makes more sense.
dan friesen
Alex is right, they are German.
So a lot of the show up till this point has been about weather weapons because he's trying to blame Harris for the hurricanes.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
dan friesen
And so he plays a little bit of evidence from Lyndon Baines Johnson on the issue.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
Here's the breakdown on President LBJ contradicting Biden's claim that there's no such thing as weather control.
Here it is.
joe biden
Now the claims are getting even more bizarre.
Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene, a congresswoman from Georgia, is now saying the federal government is literally controlling the weather.
We're controlling the weather.
Span ridiculous.
lyndon b johnson
It lays the predicate and the foundation for the development of a weather satellite that will permit man to determine the world's cloud layer and ultimately to control the weather.
unidentified
And he who controls the weather will control the world.
dan friesen
Wow.
So that's from a speech that LBJ gave at a graduation ceremony in 1962 at Southwest Texas State University.
In context, he's discussing possible methods of weather control being one of the things that could grow out of a fully backed space program.
He wasn't saying that they had the technology at the time, and nothing in that clip actually contradicts Biden at all.
Sure.
Incidentally, three years later, LBJ gave this report to Congress: quote, We hope someday to acquire the knowledge permitting us to minimize the incidence and severity of hurricanes, tornadoes, and other violent storms, and also to be able to improve the temperature and rainfall conditions in agricultural and industrial regions.
This hope is not fanciful or unrealistic, but it would be misleading to suggest that such a day is near now.
Later in that same report from 1965, LBJ says, quote, the achievement of large-scale purposeful weather modification depends on scientific knowledge not yet acquired.
Knowledge about atmospheric phenomena ranging from the interactions of minute water droplets to the behavior of global air circulations.
Furthermore, it's essential for us to investigate the manner in which man may at present be inadvertently changing weather and climate.
If Alex was being honest with the source material he was using, instead of just trying to make clickbait memes, he would know that what LBJ was saying was aspirational, not a statement of technology that they had or were even close to having.
That report that I was reading from is three years after this speech that Alex is playing a clip from.
It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
I wonder.
All right.
Do you think that the right now would find it unbelievable for it to be God punishing us for having gay people?
dan friesen
That's interesting.
jordan holmes
Because why bring weather weapons out?
30 years ago, you know, it was gay people having sex that made bad weather happen.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
I don't see how that's changed if that's what you believed back then.
dan friesen
I think that we're getting closer to being back to that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But maybe you want to have a little bit of a fake covering of the appearance of rationality.
Sure.
jordan holmes
So you've got weather weapons?
Yeah.
dan friesen
What you're really talking about, your feelings are basically wrathful God.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Right.
But you're pretending it's weather weapons.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, I feel like they have a, I swear to you, I feel like they have a better leg to stand on if it's just God.
If it's just God punishing us, that makes more sense than man has control over the weather.
dan friesen
Sure.
So, you know, Alex has that alexjonesstore.com, right?
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And that's run by Big Lee.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That's the company that's behind that.
It's a very different company.
jordan holmes
Completely different.
dan friesen
The different company.
jordan holmes
Unrelated.
dan friesen
Totally unrelated.
It's called The Alex JonesStore.com.
It's not related.
alex jones
We need real capital coming.
I want to thank those that have given, but that's the people say, oh, 250 grand, that's a lot of money.
Not fighting these people.
Trump needs billions to fight the enemy.
He's already spent billions in his election cycle.
I need millions.
It's simple.
A very small investment.
Realoffshows.com.
And then separately, outside sponsors, companies I don't own, that the enemy doesn't have the power to go after and attack with all their lawfare, like Big Lee, makes some of the best t-shirts and Patriot apparel.
They're geared up and pledged and committed to be one of our main sponsors in this, and I'll leave it at that.
And critical to the things that are going on behind the scenes, I'll stop right there.
And you need to flood them with support, incredible t-shirts, incredible hoodies, incredible ball caps, and two incredible supplements, ladies and gentlemen, right now.
And the big one you want to get is Ultimate C Moss.
dan friesen
Yeah, the Moss is part of this.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
It honestly couldn't be more obvious what he's doing.
Like, I know that I'm just ringing the same alarm as always.
It's just, it's very frustrating and disillusioning to watch.
jordan holmes
It's comically, I mean, it's at the point where now it's too funny.
It's too funny now.
dan friesen
It's he couldn't be trying to hide it less.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think it would, I think it makes it more overt when he says, oh, stop right there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
It definitely gives like the, here's the shady stuff.
jordan holmes
You're saying you have a thing to hide.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
I'm hiding it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I won't tell you about this thing that I'm hiding because I'm either ashamed of it or I will get in trouble if you know about it.
dan friesen
Right.
Yeah.
It's very obvious.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this next clip, Alex is, he says something that gets me fairly excited, but also said.
alex jones
I'm up here telling you exactly what I think.
I do what I want to do, and I talk about what I want to talk about.
And it really helps me to ask people on X what they think, and I get a lot of great ideas reading it.
People say, look, is it Jones commenting and responding in the comments?
Yeah.
My wife, at like midnight, I'll go, go to bed and stop responding to people's comments.
I just can't.
It's great.
I love it.
It's fun.
And people send me so much stuff, so much research.
I'm about 98% sure about what I'm going to say when we come back.
And it's a big deal.
And it's a lot bigger than just the current political cycle we're in.
If you understand this compendium of discussion, you really understand how the world works and what the human condition is.
And you're going to be green-pilled, a term I've coined that I want to explain in more detail.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
alex jones
Not red-pilled, not black-pilled, not white-pilled.
Green-pilled.
And I really like this understanding to get into the vernacular and into the discussion areas like Team Humanity has.
Because we can't just label what the bad guys and the enemy are doing and oppose them.
We do that, of course.
That's half the equation.
But you've got to have the other half, and that's what we stand for.
So I'll lay this out when we come back.
And then I'll open the phones up to see what you think.
dan friesen
So I take it you're not green-pilled?
jordan holmes
I'm annoyed.
I'm annoyed.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How many colored pills?
dan friesen
Yellow-pilled.
jordan holmes
How many colored pills do we have?
dan friesen
Purple-pilled.
That's a D12 song.
jordan holmes
Oh, that is a D12 song.
That's a good point.
There is that.
dan friesen
Cool, calm, like my mom.
So people of volume inside a palm.
jordan holmes
So I am purple pill.
That is what I am.
I refuse to accept any other colored pills from here on.
dan friesen
You've been to Mushroom Mountain.
That's from the song.
jordan holmes
I know.
I haven't listened to the song.
I never really listened to D12 except for that one time whenever Eminem showed up.
dan friesen
He was always in it.
jordan holmes
See?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
I never really listened to him.
dan friesen
He was part of the six.
Even why it's called D12.
jordan holmes
Because there's 12 of them.
dan friesen
There's six of them.
jordan holmes
That doesn't make sense.
dan friesen
They each have two personalities.
unidentified
Boo.
dan friesen
Eminem and Slim Shady.
jordan holmes
Retroactively, I am grateful for not listening to them.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Look, I don't want to.
Obviously, a lot of it's going to be pretty rough.
It was horror core at the time.
Even intending to be super offensive and confrontational.
Like Bizarre was intentionally awful.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I wonder going back and listening.
I bet some of it's still good.
Anyway, purple pills.
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
The issue is Alex is going to reveal the human condition.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's going to describe the human condition.
jordan holmes
I appreciate the juxtaposition of I am ignoring my family and life in order to reply to comments online.
Yeah.
And also, I am going to tell you about the human condition.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
I'm deep thinking you already had her.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You have already told me about the human condition, my friend.
dan friesen
Tell you about the human condition, and that condition is desperate.
jordan holmes
Absolute addiction to any and all positive.
dan friesen
It says something nice about me on Twitter.
And you understand this human compendium.
You understand?
jordan holmes
I don't have neurons anymore.
I just have neurotoxins.
dan friesen
So this next clip, Alex gets cut off by the break.
And I don't know why.
I just thought it was a little sad.
alex jones
The enemy right now knows they're losing and they know to pull back.
That is the only smart, sane move, but they're not completely sane, as you know, because they follow the devil, their father.
But even they still have some humanity and some self-preservation left in them.
And there's a lot of people in corporations and government systems that have a preservation instinct, even though they're not dollars of the Holy Spirit.
You know, you've got Satan's influence.
You've got human flesh influence that's got problems, but still isn't completely evil.
And then you've got God that's completely perfect and total completion.
And just there is no time.
There is no space.
It's just total, not even, it's not even ecstasy.
It's just total completion.
It's just absolute just everything's good.
jordan holmes
Stall.
alex jones
So you got to learn to recognize the devil's wavelength, human wavelength, and then God's wavelength.
And those are the three wavelengths.
The wavelength of destruction and then the attack on good and then the love of betrayal and ugliness and then humans that are the bridge between that and absolute enlightenment and perfection.
But the only way you could have total perfection would be free will, which and the creation of new free will and sentient beings, which then have to go through the processes of decision about the resonance of their energy in time and space for all of eternity.
We'll come back.
Yeah.
pastor rodney howard-browne
Okay.
Yep.
dan friesen
That was something.
jordan holmes
Sounds right.
dan friesen
He said some things.
jordan holmes
You know, I've read some books by plenty of modern philosophers.
There's a guy who's like, oh, let's talk about the science of Utah.
What's a post-work world like?
And he's got a PhD, but ultimately he said basically that.
He just has better words for it.
dan friesen
He said basically that.
jordan holmes
Basically that.
dan friesen
There are three wavelengths.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
The devil, the flesh, and God.
jordan holmes
Basically that.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
The whole thing.
That's pretty much it.
pastor rodney howard-browne
Right?
jordan holmes
That's how you.
That's a post-work world.
dan friesen
The only means of perfection is creating sentient life, and then it needs to have resonance challenges.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
We got to go sell some moss.
jordan holmes
This is why you get AI is so you can have the resonance challenges.
And that'll be your utopia, a post-work world.
Universal basic income, same difference.
dan friesen
Devil resonance.
Flesh fluence.
jordan holmes
Flesh fluence is good.
dan friesen
And God's perfection.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
These are the three auras that play for man's soul.
Right?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Cool.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
Like in the gut.
dan friesen
So we have all these resonances.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Free will creation and all this testing is utter that's perfection.
jordan holmes
Same difference.
dan friesen
And so Alex goes to break, and when he came back, this is when we're supposed to discuss the human condition.
pastor rodney howard-browne
Yes.
dan friesen
That was all filling time before he went to break.
Sure.
And so he comes back, and I was excited to hear about this mind-blowing stuff that he's 98% sure about.
alex jones
The biggest development in the global political awakening and realignment that's happening versus the great reset.
There's a lot that goes into this, but here we are.
Biden is a complete puppet.
And Biden stole the election with his handlers in 2020.
Then they obviously drugged him up in Vegas, flew him out, held him for eight days, put out a fake resignation letter, which Pelosi admits was fake.
jordan holmes
Was he fake?
alex jones
And made him step down or they were under the 22nd Amendment.
dan friesen
This was kind of a disappointment that the human condition and the human compendium understanding stuff is just his Biden is turning on Harris narrative.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So there's no time that Biden was kidnapped for eight days in Las Vegas.
jordan holmes
I'm dope about that.
I'm excited to hear more about that.
dan friesen
Why eight?
I don't know.
This was just what people said at the time.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
This was a narrative that was surrounding like he had COVID, you know, and conspiracies that grew out of that.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But also, Alex is wrong about the letter thing.
Pelosi said that the letter where Biden said he wasn't going to step aside in the 2024 election didn't sound like him.
She never said that his letter stepping aside was fake.
Alex's first two points laying out whatever he's getting at, whatever his argument is, they're completely made up.
This is not a good start.
jordan holmes
Now, I have this question for you.
All right.
If he's already been kidnapped, if he's already been plumped and whatever by the globalists.
dan friesen
Plumping's good for you.
jordan holmes
Right.
How is it possible for him to now be undermining Kamala's campaign?
dan friesen
Right.
It's difficult to imagine from a structural storytelling perspective.
Sure.
Yes.
Because he was kidnapped in Vegas for eight days and forced to step down from there.
jordan holmes
See, yeah, the moment that happens.
dan friesen
Well, that has to, that's why he has to have the blessing of the globalists to be turning on Kamala.
Right.
Which means that these people are all over the place.
jordan holmes
What was the point of kidnapping if later you're going to be like, ah, shit, we fucked up.
Abort!
Now fuck with Kamala?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
These people are fucking up.
dan friesen
Yeah, they are almost like stupid villains.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Almost unbelievable.
jordan holmes
We're at Boris and Natasha levels of failure.
dan friesen
No, they look so competent.
jordan holmes
They do.
dan friesen
In comparison.
jordan holmes
They really almost succeed all the time.
dan friesen
Yeah, you just imagine the globalists sitting there with a bomb with a lit fuse.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So Biden turning on Harris.
That's the big story about the human condition.
jordan holmes
I like it.
alex jones
Then Biden got with his crime syndicate family and others and got pissed off and realized they were planning to continue to burn him and his son.
Then he starts putting on a month ago the Trump hat that was on an accident.
And then since it is all these press conferences or announcements or events or addresses when Kamala's speaking, and he continues to contradict her when she comes out and says, you know, I'm not associated with Biden.
I'm going to do things different.
He says, no, no, no, she was running things.
Which, of course, she wasn't, but you can, people have been saying for a month he's against Kamala.
And I'm like, well, let me see.
dan friesen
Well, let me see.
So the idea that Biden got together with his, quote, crime syndicate family and realized that Harris was going to keep coming after him is entirely from Alex's imagination.
There's zero basis for this, and it doesn't even make sense.
Biden put on a Trump hat in an appearance in Pennsylvania because the guy who was wearing a Trump hat put on a Biden hat.
It's not a subtle message that only Alex is smart enough to decode.
It was a folksy moment of imagined unity.
Alex spends his nights on Twitter being bombarded by the types of bullshit that his audience likes to post.
So he's just coming up with conclusions based on that cycle of fake information.
Conversely, in the real world, here's a little bit of a speech that Biden gave on the campaign trail in Philadelphia the other day.
Quote, four years ago, I picked Kamala to be my vice president.
I picked her because she's smart and tough.
She was a first-rate district attorney out in California, an attorney general, and then a U.S. senator.
But most of all, I picked her because she has character and she has integrity.
And I must admit, I picked her because she had one endorsement that mattered most to me.
My son, Bo Biden, was the attorney general of the state of Delaware.
And I give you my word, before he left, headed off to Iraq for a year.
He said, Dad, I met the next generation, man.
He worked with her.
He worked with Kamala.
As attorney generals, they work together to take on big corporations.
Biden went on to say, quote, I'm one of the few people in American history who's been vice president and president, and I know both jobs, what they take.
And I can tell you, Kamala Harris has been a great vice president.
She'll be a great president as well.
Alex is trying to craft this narrative where Biden is secretly against Harris because he's mad that she usurped him, but that's not real.
There isn't some kind of feud here.
And Biden even addressed this idea in one of his speeches saying, quote, every president has to cut their own path.
That's what I did.
I was loyal to Barack Obama, but I cut my own path as president.
And that's what Kamala is going to do.
She's been loyal so far, but she's going to cut her own path.
How to further economic growth, how to keep making it easier to start and grow a business, how to make a border more secure, how to make healthcare more affordable, dot, dot, dot, on and off.
So this idea is like, I think it's just Alex is like, I would do that if I was him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, 100%.
dan friesen
But it's not based on any reality.
jordan holmes
I got my shit stolen from me.
Now I'm going to be a petty little baby.
dan friesen
I've got crimes to cover up.
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Like, amazing.
dan friesen
Man.
It's a bit of projection.
And if you understand this piece of the human condition.
jordan holmes
Right?
I wish, I wish I, I mean, you know, that would be more fun.
It would be more fun.
It would just be a more fun and more whimsical world.
dan friesen
I think we would all be way more dead.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Because it would have happened over time.
That pettiness and childish leadership would have probably not navigated some of the more serious crises that we've faced.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we would have a lot of spite dead.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
So also, but the establishment, they've turned against Harris because that was fast.
But it's proven by Biden's turning on her.
Sure.
He must have their backing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Otherwise, the story makes less sense.
jordan holmes
It does make less sense.
alex jones
Now we have CNN and other corporate media channels.
I mean, I've got new ones today.
CNN mocks Kamala Harris for being outsmarted as Biden puts handcuffs on her.
I mean, it goes on and on.
So I was waiting until I was sure about this.
And I'm certainly not the first or only person to notice this is all over the news that he's turned against her.
But he doesn't do anything unless his funders are for it.
And you've got thousands of points I've seen, but you've got 60 minutes.
That's definitely new or mouthpiece when that's scripted.
Saying, Kamala, you didn't get one vote.
You've been appointed like a dictator.
That's un-American last Sunday.
dan friesen
That headline Alex is reading about CNN mocking Harris, that's not an actual headline.
Alex is just reading a tweet that links to a Gateway pundit article about a CNN contributor named Scott Jennings making fun of how Harris has to deal with whatever Biden does, in addition to presenting herself as the best candidate.
Jennings is not some down-the-middle kind of news person either.
He's on CNN as a conservative commentator, having been the head of George W. Bush's 2000 campaign in Kentucky and being involved in multiple campaigns for Mitch McConnell.
jordan holmes
That's funny.
dan friesen
He's a big-time Republican, and there have been whispers about him being a potential choice for Trump's press secretary if he wins.
Point is, this is not CNN mocking Harris.
Alex is distorting reality to fit the image that he wants to sell.
And as for that 60-minute interview, isn't that good that they're asking her a difficult question about her not winning the primary?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
That is good.
jordan holmes
It is good, but it's not good because that means that the globalists have added that to their plan.
But their plan at the same time is also them shouting abort.
unidentified
And I think I'm getting hurt.
jordan holmes
I think I'm hurting myself now.
Yeah, this is bad.
dan friesen
Well, maybe you just don't have the full picture or a gestalt.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't understand the human condition.
I will guarantee that.
dan friesen
Would you care for more evidence that the globalists, the devil, is in retreat?
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
I see other big signs.
Like a month ago, they announced they're going to start raining storm shadow heavy, U.S.-made, European-made missiles on Russia.
Russia says, well, New, can we do that?
The missiles never got launched so far, knock on wood.
But that wasn't enough to see that NATO was backing off, realizing they pushed the edge of oblivion and had to stop.
Now we've seen NATO, the head of NATO, and others, say, well, okay, Ukraine's going to have to give up territory to Russia.
dan friesen
So that dynamic that's playing out here is an essential piece of how Alex's games worked.
He spent weeks, even months, yelling about how the Storm Shadow missiles were about to be launched against Russia, which would kick off nuclear war, and that hasn't happened.
It was never a very likely thing to happen, but Alex played up the possibility of it in order to stoke fear and be sensationalist.
And now that it's become fairly clear that things aren't going to go down this road, Alex is able to deflate the tension that he himself created and pretend that it's an indication that the globalists are backing off.
This is a rhetorical trick, and it's built into his whole like, if something that I predict doesn't happen, it's because I stopped it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's these unfalsifiable games.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, none of the stuff that he's saying connects to reality at all.
In fact, last year there was a big controversy when the chief of staff for NATO's Secretary General suggested that Ukraine could give up some of its territory as part of a peace deal.
That was last year.
He was discussing possible paths forward and had to quickly clarify that he wasn't proposing that as a plan.
Earlier this year, then Secretary General Jen Stoltenberg made it very clear that a land for peace deal was not on the table.
And just this month, Mark Rutty took over as the Secretary General, but he hasn't turned cold on supporting Ukraine.
In fact, just today, as we're recording this, he did a press conference and explicitly said that Ukraine will be a member of NATO in the future.
I don't think that the picture Alex is painting has any connection to reality, but it all works for what he's doing, which is not reality.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's an abort/slash new plan slash Biden's going to tear down our old plan ourselves with his help that we kidnapped him to obtain.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't think that this is the most inspired work of Alex's career.
jordan holmes
It is lacking.
dan friesen
I think that the Ebola thing made more sense just from a straightforward perspective.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This is stupid.
jordan holmes
You know, I think it is a problem of familiarity.
He was doing the anti-vax, the COVID stuff for so long to the detriment of his other conspiracies.
You know, and now he doesn't have his fastball.
dan friesen
Sure.
I also think that, you know, you have a like who cares about the electrical politics.
jordan holmes
There's definitely that.
dan friesen
Do you really need to convince your audience not to vote for Harris?
Seriously, Alex?
Do you think that there are some hidden possible Trump voters in the mix somewhere that need to be persuaded?
jordan holmes
Who are the people you need to convince?
dan friesen
The only people you need to convince are people who are never going to vote for Trump anyway.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Because they would have been on board for RFK.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Or some other even crazier person.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's just, you don't need to bash Harris.
jordan holmes
No, this is.
dan friesen
There's no point to this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it was fucked up whenever he was like, Trump has spent billions on this thing.
And then it really did hit me.
Like, they are wasting, they might as well be lighting so much money on fire to get like one extra dude from somewhere to be like, well, maybe that's it.
That's the whole billion dollars that's being pissed on just for that fucking guy.
dan friesen
But here's the thing: I think that from a national perspective and from a like Trump campaign perspective, spending money attacking Harris makes some sense in terms of trying to depress voter turnout on the other side.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Trying to demoralize or whatever.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So I can see, like, I still think it's a waste of money from a human standpoint.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But I get where the motivation comes from.
Alex isn't going to depress voter turnout by all the Biden is trying to sink Harris.
He's just trying to be interesting, and it's not interesting.
It's stupid.
jordan holmes
It is even more interesting because what I would do if I wanted to depress voter turnout and I was Trump is not attack Harris.
I would be like, I'm so proud of Harris for doing all these things that we do.
She's right on.
I love the way they're doing this.
dan friesen
You're kind of touching on Alex's point about Ron Paul back in the day.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Was that the only way the media could erode his base is by supporting him.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Trump could probably attack Harris by being supportive of her.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's really the best.
I mean, that's the best way to depress in her turnout, right?
Is pointing out that there won't be any difference.
dan friesen
Maybe.
I'm not sure.
But this just seems like Alex treading water terribly.
alex jones
And then I've got all these videos and reports.
NBC News files hilarious hurt feelings report over Biden siding with DeSantis instead of Kamala.
And Kamala says I talked to DeSantis.
No, she didn't.
She's a damn liar.
And then she spends it on 60 Minutes and goes, well, I've been talking to other governors.
Oh, I get it.
Kind of like they're in the debate a few weeks ago with Vance and Tampon Tim.
They go, hey, why did you say you were intending to square what happened?
Well, I'm a coach and a father and in the military and blameless talks for two minutes.
She goes, hey, you didn't answer the question.
Well, I'm kind of a knucklehead.
I just, you know, I wasn't there.
And then now you've got Harris again for the last four days saying, no, I did talk to him.
Well, now she didn't talk to DeSantis.
And then Biden comes out and says, well, I've been talking to him, and he's doing a good job to hurt her.
You know, he's making deals behind the scenes with other segments of the power structure, other factions.
And he's been told Trump's 20 points ahead in the general election.
He's 10, 15 in all the battlegrounds, as I told you months ago.
Now it's all in the polls.
They were skewing him before.
Now they're not doing it as bad.
They're actually started sampling only 5% more Democrats than Republicans because national numbers show the Republican Party now, the majority of the people.
jordan holmes
Why get rid of Biden?
alex jones
The first time ever two weeks ago.
jordan holmes
Why kidnap anybody?
alex jones
They're at least hedging their bets.
And that doesn't mean that the bad faction or the worst faction won't get back in control and they won't go ahead and start World War III or they won't go ahead and do a cyber attack or they won't go ahead and blow up a bunch of black churches or something and blame it on Trump supporters.
It doesn't mean that's not going to happen.
Doesn't mean they may not go ahead and still try to kill Trump.
Doesn't mean some crazy, they've wound up to do it or it's just some lone nut might actually do it.
But I'm seeing the establishment that thought it had us in our jaws, realizing it's got a tiger by the tail and they're trying to turn loose right now.
dan friesen
Okay, so here's the underlying story that Alex is covering in a nutshell.
When Milton was approaching Florida, it was reported that Harris had tried to call DeSantis to offer aid and open the lines of communication, but he had refused her call.
Some people in the press were interpreting this as him being a bit of an asshole during a disaster and that maybe it wasn't the time to play politics.
When asked about this, Biden said that DeSantis had been gracious and was not aware of the refused call, implying that he had spoken to DeSantis himself, which makes sense because he's the president.
There's no evidence I've seen that Biden was aware of the interaction between DeSantis and Harris, and he's clarified that he wasn't making any kind of dig at Harris by positioning himself in the middle of the story.
He was just focused on the recovery and preparation for the storm, not gossip-level political bullshit news like Alex is doing.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
DeSantis' camp has tried to claim that they didn't know that Harris reached out and that the federal authorities have given all the support that's been requested to them.
Some people say this claim that he didn't know she reached out is bullshit.
At this point, it's kind of hard to know what the truth is, and ultimately, I'm not sure it's that huge of a deal.
Response to the storm requires cooperation, but it doesn't require everyone cooperate.
The federal response and state response need to work together.
But if FEMA and the president are in communication with the governor, he can be an asshole to the vice president if he wants, I guess.
jordan holmes
So can you?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's not really, I don't know if it's that essential as long as there's the fundamental cooperation that needs to be.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I mean, but that's the math.
That's why they're lying, is because one, you don't have to take a call from the vice president.
Fuck the vice president.
But the vice president is calling you because she is running to become president.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So it would give her a kind of presidential air to do it.
Fuck her.
I'll talk to the president.
Makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Right.
And, you know, you can do whatever you want to do in these types of situations so long as it isn't like at the expense of the people who need the help.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I don't know if DeSantis was talking to Biden and shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Then I then.
jordan holmes
Two birds with one stone.
I get to be a dick to Kamala and I still get the aid from my people.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
You're being an asshole, but like.
jordan holmes
Fuck them.
Yeah, I get it.
dan friesen
This is what politicians do, I guess.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're a bunch of assholes.
dan friesen
So do you know about that thing about walls?
Did you understand that?
jordan holmes
No, I don't.
I got distracted because I was like, Tampon Tim is terrible.
But then I thought, what about Tampon Jim?
And then I thought about a guy who's just like roaming across the countryside, just spreading tampons and awareness and like making sure.
So I want Tampon Jim to be vice president, but he doesn't exist.
dan friesen
What about Earthworm Tim, which is his Earthworm Jim, but Tim Walz?
jordan holmes
That makes more sense than Earthworm Jim.
This is fascinating.
The T and the J need to be switched for these franchises.
I mean, and also one of them is in my head.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Anyways, so what were you talking about?
dan friesen
So he had said that he was in China at the time of the Tiananmen Square protest.
Sure.
And it turns out that he was there a little after the actual event.
But it was like a month or two after.
jordan holmes
Oh, for sure.
dan friesen
So obviously there's still stuff going on in China.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
People are still dealing with.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And so he was asked in the debate about this discrepancy.
And his answer was pretty not good.
But I think an acceptable answer is: I was there at that time.
I mean, yeah, what do you have misspoke?
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
I wasn't the guy who got run over.
I don't know what you want from me.
Yeah.
Guess what?
Even after those protests were done, people were still pissed.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's kind of dumb, but Alex is one of the big proofs that he's a liar.
jordan holmes
No, it's very dumb.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex has decided that we're going to do, we're going to take some calls about Harris getting turned on by Biden.
joe biden
Sure.
alex jones
And I'll ask callers coming up next hour, what do you think about what I'm saying?
Do you agree with this?
Do you disagree?
But you can't see all these signs.
And I knew this weeks ago, but I wanted to really cogitate on it.
I wanted to let it simmer and marinate in my old brain.
And before I came out and said this, and this morning, I was hiking, beautiful hill country, and I, for a couple hours with my youngest, my middle daughter, three daughters, a great son.
They're all great.
And I just thought, no, that's what this is.
So it doesn't mean we're out of the woods.
It doesn't mean we all shouldn't work harder than ever.
But the establishment knows they're getting their ass kicked on every front.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
They're going to take some calls about how I have decided that Biden is turning rogue.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is just the Queen's hit the dictator button all over again.
This is horseshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this next clip is fun.
This is, I believe, Alex thinks that on air he's working out a deal for Mark Zuckerberg.
jordan holmes
Okay.
One that Zuckerberg might or might not take.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It's in the cards.
dan friesen
In the same way that Ivan Reichland was on, and he was talking about how he's going to offer amnesty to all of these people if they came forward.
jordan holmes
Really nice of him.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex is trying to work out a Napoleon deal for some of these globalists.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
I mean, New Orleans, you got a problem.
You got a problem.
jordan holmes
You got a problem.
alex jones
A big problem.
unidentified
Big problem.
alex jones
And like I keep telling you, you need to give up right now.
You need to run up the white flag and we'll give you abstentia.
We'll ship you politically to an island.
dan friesen
Politically?
jordan holmes
How do you ship someone politically to god damn it?
alex jones
Give me a couple soldiers you can order around so you feel powerful.
jordan holmes
Why?
What?
dan friesen
Political.
unidentified
What are we talking about?
alex jones
Pushes you in a corner where you'll attack and blow the planet up.
So we got a deal for you.
Give up.
Start blowing the whistles one way to do it.
To the lower-level people.
And for the establishment, folks like Alexander Soros, go away.
And we'll let you continue, you know, being with us here in the third dimension.
And if you don't do that, well, I think you can look at the writing on the wall, can't you?
And you understand I'm not a person that tells people things that I don't believe.
In fact, I know that you will be destroyed.
And I dislike you so much that I just want you off our backs.
I'm not a vengeful person.
I don't dream about you hanging at the end of ropes.
I don't want to see you there in prisons upsetting other prisoners, having to be close to people like you.
I would really like to just see you go away.
And I know you got a hunger to hurt us and a hunger to dominate us because you inherently are cowards and filth.
But we are going to beat you.
So I just need to give you a chance here to parlay, to send the signals that you're rolling over right now, like Zuckerberg's done.
As I said months before he did, I said, you better, I said, you're in that bunker.
It's not going to save you.
unidentified
Everybody hates you.
alex jones
I mean, literally, they're one degree away from running around with burning torches and pitchforks in Kauai.
Because everybody knows me.
I mean, literally.
And I mean, like, oh, come meet the chief.
And I look it up, like, this is the actual last real Hawaiian chief.
And I'm like, up the mountains, and nobody gets to go to.
And they're like telling me how much they hate Zuckerberg and everything.
And everywhere I go, the tourists hate Zuckerberg and the construction workers hate Zuckerberg.
And all they're talking about is how they can't wait until everything goes under because the first thing they're going to do is go get Zuckerberg.
And I go on there and I say, Zuckerberg, listen, you understand your bunker is a tomb.
You need to roll over right now.
I mean, my God, I probably had 100 people tell me how much they can't wait to, you know what?
So I don't want that to happen to Zuckerberg.
I just want you to go away.
Just go away, Zuckerberg.
Okay?
Bye-bye.
Take your stolen loot, run off, act powerful.
Do whatever it is you're going to do.
Just get out of the way.
We don't want to smash you.
We don't want to.
I mean, it's like I see a cockroach outside my house.
I don't step on it.
But in the house, it's gross.
It freaks out my wife and kids.
And I got to feel sorry for it.
It's looking for some food.
But I go ahead and step on it.
unidentified
I got a napkin and throw the trash.
alex jones
Just, you know, just get out of my house.
Just come on.
unidentified
Get out of my house.
jordan holmes
You could use the napkin to grab it and then throw it out of your house.
dan friesen
Nah, it's in the house.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
You don't want to do it, but you got to do it.
You got to kill it.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
unidentified
Hey, look, we're going to politically zip you to an island because we're not going to let you be in the third dimension, if you know what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
I will say this: I think historically, the French have two great lessons to teach us.
And they all happen real, they happen real back-to-back, in fact, which makes them such great lessons, which is one, when you are killing all the rich people, you can kill too many people.
Two, when you got a Napoleon, you got to kill Napoleon.
You can't ship him off to an island.
dan friesen
Yeah, the subsidiary lesson is you're going to get off that island.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
So you got to, there's a threading the needle that you got to do, and that's what the French have taught us.
Sure.
You can't go too far in either direction.
Because if you let him live, you're fucked.
But you junked it.
dan friesen
But what if the people politically sent him to an island?
jordan holmes
I swear to God, that is the most annoying fucking thing because he.
Also, why wouldn't you think that the armed guards are there to murder you?
They're your jailers.
dan friesen
No, they're there to make you feel powerful.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Why would you do that to anyone?
What is wrong with us?
dan friesen
All of this is crazy.
jordan holmes
All of this is crazy.
dan friesen
This is just murder threats against Alex's enemies.
And I think there's something fascinating about him being like, yeah, I got on air and I said that everybody wants to kill Zuckerberg and you got to turn over.
You got to give up.
jordan holmes
And then it happened.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, he did say that Trump getting shot and then putting his fist up was pretty cool.
jordan holmes
See, there you go.
dan friesen
Hey, don't joke Alex's deal.
jordan holmes
That's because he listens to Alex like all other world leaders.
dan friesen
He partially capitulated.
jordan holmes
And the real Biden also listens to Alex because he was replaced by a fake Biden when he was kidnapped in Las Vegas.
But they killed the fake Biden whenever he stepped down because the fake Biden could go rogue.
dan friesen
And then the real Biden broke out.
jordan holmes
Broke out and is now undermining Kamala.
Now it's making sense to me.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This makes as much sense as what Alex is actually saying.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
Which is stupid.
alex jones
Well, so Helene went up the west coast of Florida, hit the most conservative area in the panhandle, and then went into the South, the main South, and it's now confirmed.
We now have female whistleblowers in Congress testifying that they were told to stand down and not bring aid.
So that's confirmed.
And Axelrod brags that it's meant to help conservative areas, the rural areas in the South are mainly conservative, upwards of 80% Republican voters, that they think that that would disrupt the election enough with now 25, 24 days left to ensure a Kamala victory.
But I don't see that.
We now have confirmed, she's done it so much, it's definitely not gaps, that Biden has been siding with the Santa's.
He's been criticizing Kamala.
He's been saying that she's a liar, that she wasn't part of the administration.
Why do you think he's doing that?
Now NATO's talking about a peace deal with Russia.
I'm seeing a lot of signs that the globalists took us to the very edge of things, Pastor Brown, but now we're getting cold feet because everything they do blows up in their face.
pastor rodney howard-browne
They're trying to go in reverse.
They're trying to put everything in reverse mode right now because they realize they overplayed their hand and everybody can see that what they're doing.
dan friesen
He's talking to Pastor Rodney Howard Brown, who sucks.
But if you're expected to believe Alex means anything that he's saying, then the globalists forced Biden to step down because he was going to lose to Trump and are so hell-bent on stealing the 2024 election that they were willing to use weather weapons to depress rural GOP voter turnout and tried to kill Trump multiple times.
But now that we've gone through with all this, they're getting cold feet.
That's what I'm supposed to believe.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
They used weather weapons to win the 2024 election for Harris, but for no reason whatsoever, they've decided to use Biden to undermine her and hurt her chances to win.
This is so stupid.
And the image that he's trying to portray of these villains is from the mind of a child.
This is comically stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's interesting because, in a way, it is also a great lesson to learn about long-term planning.
And if you've got a good long-term plan, then the day-to-day is really almost a little kind of tedious.
It's just like, oh, I just have to enact this small part of the plan.
And then at the end of it, a large thing will have occurred.
This feels like they are not good at long-term planning if every day it feels like they have changed their minds.
dan friesen
Yeah, the globalists now are really bad at this long-term planning stuff because Alex is getting all of his dumb shit from Twitter.
jordan holmes
That is a good point.
Twitter is not good at long-term planning either.
dan friesen
Whereas before he had these like anti-communist texts and all of this sort of tradition of the John Birch Society and all that that had, like, say what you want about it, it had a more solid footing than dumb shithead on Twitter posted something he thought of, and now Alex has decided is news.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, that makes the globalists a lot more erratic when it's based on that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
The JBS kind of had a long-term plan for everybody, which was like, ah, they're going to do the horrible things we want to do to you, but it's black people.
unidentified
Ah!
jordan holmes
You know.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And this just feels flighty and disconnected.
jordan holmes
Take your daughter fishing, man.
Stop reading Twitter comments.
dan friesen
So beyond the demonstrable lies that Alex is telling the audience, even in that clip, I wish the listeners would sit back and think about this kind of conceptual stuff.
If they reflected on what Alex is telling them the evil plan is, they would have to realize that it makes no sense and he's just making this shit up as he goes along.
Like, it's that is to me a real, real bummer.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because so many of these listeners are absolutely capable of enacting a long-term plan.
I'm sure.
They've done it before.
They have jobs.
They go to work.
They do all kinds of stuff.
If they were to sit down and be like, should I let this man run my fucking lawnmowing business?
No, because his plans are terrible.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And you have to imagine, like, how would it even be possible for these globalists that Alex is describing to do anything?
Yeah.
It's absurd to imagine that they could make toast.
jordan holmes
Totally, quite frankly.
No, they would have to abort 30 seconds before it finishes because they're a little panicked that the fake toast wasn't working.
dan friesen
Right.
But their plan to make that fake toast would have to involve an assassination or something deep.
jordan holmes
Blowing up a fake toaster.
dan friesen
But it's the only way to be sure you get toast.
jordan holmes
Wow, obviously.
dan friesen
And then halfway through the plan, be like, oh, fuck, we fucked up.
jordan holmes
The deep state toast machine has fucking gotten us again.
dan friesen
Nonsense.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex is going to open up them phones.
alex jones
I'm going to open the phones up right now on two giant topics that you can work any comment in on these two big topics.
If you heard me in the first half of last hour describe the evidence that the globalists are now putting in reverse the Ukraine war, not just in public statements, but stuff leaking from behind the scenes and going for an armistice and a deal.
You've got Biden, it's going on for a month, but it's certified now that he's against Kamala, making deals behind the scenes.
You've got a lot of this Civil War, kill all the Trump supporter crap being dialed back by the Democrats.
You've got Trump just 20-plus points ahead of the national polls.
Battleground states 15, 20 points.
I mean, this is just devastating.
They already tried to kill him twice.
They've done the math politically.
They do kill Trump.
They're going to get the blame.
dan friesen
Okay, so this is all fake shit.
A lot of times, Alex will take calls or cover stories that are at least somewhat based in something that happened, but all this is entirely fake.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also, it's important to track some of that language.
Alex said that it's, quote, certified that Biden is against Kamala.
What does certified mean to him?
In our last episode, that was the word that he was very specifically using to mean that the government had officially declared that they could control hurricanes.
They certified that in 1967.
joe biden
Sure.
dan friesen
Certification is something that has a date.
It's supposed to be an official thing.
But here, it's just that Alex has decided that he wants to say it.
He's certified that he enjoys telling the audience that Biden has turned on Kamala.
That's all that certification means.
But he's using the language in a way that's supposed to denote something serious or official.
He does this all the time with words like declassified or admitted.
So when you hear him use those words, it usually means that he's freestyling and he just wants what he's saying to sound more important than it is.
And now certified is the one that he's hot on.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's good.
I like it.
Two reasons.
One, I think what he means is certainified.
dan friesen
98% certainified.
unidentified
Right?
jordan holmes
That's because I think because that's kind of how he's using it.
He's using the Latin root to kind of do a lot of work for him.
Yeah.
But two, if he is right, that makes me think that the devil has a notary public on hand.
dan friesen
Must.
jordan holmes
Because, I mean, it makes sense.
How else do you fucking make sure that that contract written in your own blood is real?
You got to have a witness.
dan friesen
Right.
Demon public.
jordan holmes
Demon public witness.
dan friesen
So that, oh, everything is just bumming me out.
Yeah, we haven't even gotten to what's really awful about this episode.
Great.
But this was a side-awful thing that I just had a really tough time dealing with this.
alex jones
But I did an interview yesterday, about a 40-minute interview with Dr. Drew that I thought would be about medical stuff or something.
I don't, you know, I do interviews.
I don't do pre-interviews.
I don't talk about what I'm coming on about.
I just want an interview.
You got one.
It's a big show.
And if I like folks, think they're interesting.
I'll do little shows.
I don't care.
And I can do 100 shows a day.
That's another thing.
These idiots think they try to take Infowars off the air.
I could now even be on the air and do 20 interviews a day.
dan friesen
Yeah, you get real boring real fast.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I went and I watched the Dr. Drew interview with Alex, and I want to make one thing crystal clear.
Dr. Drew Pinski is one of the biggest pieces of shit in the world.
jordan holmes
Man, what a turnaround we've seen.
dan friesen
In no uncertain terms, he knows what he's doing.
I've listened to enough of him.
I know the way he operates, the cognition that he's capable of.
He knows what the fuck he's doing.
jordan holmes
He's been around for almost 40 years.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
One of the things that you'll remember very clearly if you listen to Loveline back in the day is how sensitive Drew is towards people's affect.
He would make very strong judgmental conclusions based on how the caller was talking, the pace of their speech, how connected their thoughts were to each other.
They could tell, Adam and Drew could tell with shocking accuracy when a caller had a history of stimulant abuse.
That was something they could pick up on from their voice very fast.
Drew seems to have lost all of these instincts as he's gotten older because I went and I listened to this and he just lets Alex ramble about a ton of bullshit and then just pensively nods along with it.
I was going through Drew's recent guest list and honestly, that's a show that would fit us covering it.
It has a ton of InfoWars overlap, but I don't think I can do it without getting too emotional and all of that getting mixed up in it.
I'm more mad at him than I am at a lot of these other shitheads.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, I will say murdering your heroes is a big part of growth.
jordan holmes
I don't think it's a bad idea to murder your heroes.
The past needs to die, my friend.
dan friesen
Just a little point here, though.
unidentified
What's that?
dan friesen
Drew's show is mostly him interviewing right-wing shithead types about culture war nonsense.
But then some of the episodes are his wife talking to psychics.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Fuck Dr. Drew.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
The worst.
jordan holmes
Man, that is so fucking like that's just how available the grift is.
If you have just enough fame, if you have the absolute barest bones of a conscience, you can just step into the grift.
It's a lateral move from regular ass radio host.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And you'd think, you know, you'd hope with the position that Drew had in so many people's lives.
Yeah.
And particularly because it was in a world that involved really difficult topics.
You know, people who are survivors of abuse.
jordan holmes
When people weren't even talking about that at all.
dan friesen
And the audience was fairly young, you'd think that you'd have a particularly heightened responsibility in terms of how you behaved with the grift, let's say.
It is not a lateral move.
It is such a deep dissent because of the dynamics of why he's famous.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, it's fucked.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway, I don't know if we'll ever get into that, but I really, really get ahead if we do.
So speaking of dark times, here's where things go very bad.
I'm going to just give a little bit of a content warning.
Alex gets into a bit of transphobia that's real bad.
Great.
Dehumanizing to a great degree.
Except to the point where you can't really ignore it.
alex jones
They want to just fry society.
And they're like, well, if we dump all the chemicals in the food and water that feminize the boys, we'll then tell them how cool it is that we made them mutants.
Don't beat me to little boys.
You know, don't give them testosterone replacement because they got stunned by the chemicals.
You know, the average American male has about 80% lower testosterone than a male in 1950.
Instead of addressing that and saying, oh, maybe these boys that are effeminate should be given testosterone replacement.
Kind of like if someone's a dwarf or a midget, a midget's, dwarves are actually, it's a genetic issue, but the dwarves are, midgets are actually small, anatomically correct.
They give them growth hormone and then they grow up like they're supposed to.
So if people are hit by chemicals, first we take the chemicals out because they got chemicals that don't do this.
They did it on purpose.
And then there's programs and the medical system can make money actually helping the children with the hormone replacements they need.
But instead they go, oh, we already made you kind of a girl.
How about we really give you the chemicals?
But you won't really be a girl.
You'll be a mutant.
And then they make it cool and organize the mutants to love how they were made to be mutants and then organize them to be mad at the rest of society.
You go to a Democrat event or one of their pride parades.
I mean, it's a mutant parade.
And I don't hate the mutants.
I mean, none of us are as masculine as our grandfathers.
I don't care what color you are.
You lived in a Western country under this chemical deluge, particularly America.
No, you've been hit by it.
So take a look at men in the 1950s in photos or film footage.
Eat like pigs, smoke cigarettes.
They're all like they're in great shape.
No, almost no fact.
unidentified
Do they?
dan friesen
Yeah, he makes a great argument there.
unidentified
Do they, though?
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Do they look like they're in great shape?
dan friesen
Such great shape.
jordan holmes
Or do they look like they were 50, but actually they're 20.
dan friesen
And a definition of just rugged masculinity.
So Alex really just wants people to live exactly how he sees fit.
And he's constructed a web of conspiracy bullshit in order to explain why his perspective is supposed to sound rational.
He doesn't just want to enforce rigid controls on how people express themselves around gender because that's a very powerful form of societal control that he feels like he's losing.
It's just that trans people are mutants who are created by the chemicals in the water and food, which made them have less testosterone than Alex thinks they should.
He's really the good guy here.
jordan holmes
Once again, I think he's working for the devil.
dan friesen
He might be.
jordan holmes
Because based on his own conception of the devil's plan being, I mean, you know, like a 1984 kind of thing, forcing chemicals on people to make them conform to the gender norms that you have made up.
That seems pretty chemically based on the money.
dan friesen
That's not what he's doing.
jordan holmes
Because isn't he the one who's like, oh, this Huxley set all this up?
But then he just proposed.
dan friesen
Are you talking about the lies that he tells about Brave New World revisited speech at Berkeley in 1962?
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
But he just proposed that if your child is like, hey, I'm having this thing, you should dose them with chemicals until they behave the way you want them to.
dan friesen
Right, because he has the version of the correct thing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There's the correct, there's a correct thing, and then there's mutants.
jordan holmes
You know, okay.
So, like, here's the problem with that.
dan friesen
It's not Nazi-ish.
jordan holmes
Here's the problem with that.
All right.
And when I say the, I mean, A, there are so many, there's an infinite number of problems with that because it's an infinite problem.
Yeah.
But for all the prey out the gay people who had to go to those fucking camps and all that horrible shit and all that abuse, you know, if you are allowing chemicals, why not peyote out the gay, right?
And then everybody at least got high.
This is what I'm saying.
People aren't creative when it comes to these kinds of things.
dan friesen
Sure.
I get what you're saying, but how much more harm could you be doing?
jordan holmes
I mean, you're already establishing that giving people chemicals is fine for you.
So fucking, let's have a good time.
dan friesen
I guess so.
And I really don't know what I can say to this other than that it's fucking stupid and comes from a place of hate.
Trans women don't all have decreased testosterone, and Alex seems to be ignoring the entire population of trans men, gender non-conforming people, you know, non-binary people.
Like, this is such a stupid and limited version of what he thinks he's attacking.
Yeah.
Also, one of the contributing factors to testosterone rates falling, which is something that has been observed over time, one of the contributing factors is a sharp decrease in people smoking.
Alex can pretend that he's isolated this one variable, which is globalists putting chemicals in the food and water.
And that explains everything.
But the truth is there are countless influences on the endocrine system that come from environmental factors and lifestyle choices we've made as a society and as individuals.
And it's just fucking stupid.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
So, okay.
So now I say to you, I think now, you know, he says there's two genders.
I think instead there's two emotional states that we should be allowed, right?
Calm and not calm.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And he's not calm.
So I think it should be chemically okay to make him calm.
dan friesen
Blow dart.
jordan holmes
I think that's fine.
Based on his reasoning, I think that's fine.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so I was listening to this.
I don't really care about his stupid callers and his dumb idea that Biden is turning on Harris.
But I was listening.
I was like, all right, let's keep going.
I'm bummed out about Drew.
And also, I do think that in terms of rhetoric, calling trans people mutants, that represents a shift.
But I also kind of thought, like, well, maybe it was just that day.
Maybe he's.
Sure.
And so we jump to the 11th Friday, and he's doing it again.
alex jones
So much of this is dumped into our food and water supply every year.
That's why if you're not filtering your water with a filter system that cuts it out, because the average filter doesn't do it, you are insane because that's where you're mainly getting it.
But also bioaccumulates in a lot of the food.
That's just one of these forever chemicals.
I'm going to be getting to that as well today.
And then as we get all these mutants, people that have had their gender bent at the embryonic level, they're not female, but they're trending towards it.
They have those inclinations instead of saying, oh, let's get the chemicals out of the food and water.
On top of that, let's have hormone therapy for children that aren't going into puberty and aren't manifesting their characteristics.
Why don't we give growth hormone, low dosages, and testosterone to these young boys when they hit 12 and aren't going to puberty, aren't growing.
They're also stunted from atrazine.
Oh, no, we'll just go with the chemical that bit you this way and bend you and break it off and go all the way.
And so I've been talking about this for decades, but now even mainline endocrinologists and scientists are saying, no, we should start hormone supplementing for young boys.
Instead, again, oh, Lo, let's give them more female hormones and accelerate the mutation or go with the mutation.
dan friesen
So, I mean, I think that over time, the X-Men story has grown to take on some characteristics of civil rights-type struggles being embodied through the social stigma against mutants.
Sure.
And I guess Alex has decided to just reverse it.
unidentified
I mean, you know, take a vulnerable group and call them mutants.
jordan holmes
In a sense, in a certain way, I would be grateful for this kind of mask off moment because, you know, Magneto was right.
The end.
I'm down.
Magneto was right.
dan friesen
And I think that it has very little to do with trans people in particular.
jordan holmes
That has nothing to do with trans people in particular.
dan friesen
It is, this is the group that he has decided he can lash out at.
jordan holmes
It was 20 years ago, the gay people caused the weather.
dan friesen
Right.
If Alex could have gotten away with this about gay people, if he could do that now, he would.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he is sort of.
Because this is meant to carry over into, he's talking about pride.
There's all kinds of mutants.
Do you think that your child who's cisgender but wants to dye their hair a weird color?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Do you think maybe that might be a mutation?
jordan holmes
Not yet.
dan friesen
But it will be.
jordan holmes
You better believe it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
This is really fucked up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is a development that I really don't like to see.
But also, in the way that you're saying, I do also kind of like, well, it is mask off.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, that's nice.
dan friesen
He's been a hateful type of person very clearly for a long time.
But this kind of dehumanization and clear intention of saying this over days.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, it's a new thing.
We're going to call them mutants.
Yeah, I mean, fucked up.
jordan holmes
You know, it is like, I think a lot of people generally assume the best of others rightly.
I think most people, even if they are bigots of some sort or another, see you as a human being.
But this motherfucker, you can throw hands.
Done and done.
dan friesen
Even as the Professor X of this equation, I find it very difficult to.
jordan holmes
Magneto is right, man.
dan friesen
So the rest of a lot of this episode is Bobby Barnes coming on.
Oh, my God.
Basically, they're just trying to fundraise for Alex's legal defense.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Barnes is a dumb piece of shit.
So we're going to jump to the 14th.
All right.
Because Sunday's show that's just Chase hosting.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And I don't care.
So Alex comes on on the 14th, and he has fallen for a fake story.
alex jones
So we've got all of that, and it's starting to break and come out on Tim Walz that after he claimed he stopped being an alcoholic and got arrested, that he was kicked out of school, the school he worked at, put on leave, and they've redacted a bunch of it.
And the folks that pointed this out weeks ago said, check those dates in his career.
Well, the documents are coming out, but they're redacted.
They say that it is inappropriate relationships with minors.
Well, you take one look at him and then his activities and his transgender pushing and his tampons, the boys' bathroom, and there's a lot of smoke there.
And where there's smoke, there's fire.
dan friesen
So this was a story that a Twitter user called DocNet YouTube posted, and it's picked up some traction in the Alex-type media sphere.
Anna Merlin did a good article about this, and perhaps unsurprisingly found that Alex actually follows that Twitter account, which makes sense because he's just pretending that there's all kinds of great documents behind this.
And she's a fucking Twitter user.
So Anna discussed this Twitter user's claim and the email they allegedly got from an anonymous source who was Walls' victim.
The Twitter user, quote, included a screenshot of the purported first email.
As thousands of people immediately noted, the image had a cursor at the end of the last sentence, making it obvious he'd written it himself.
It's a sad state of affairs, but there aren't really any consequences for Alex reporting whatever comes across his Twitter feed as if it's serious verified news.
The only sin that he can really possibly commit is not giving the audience exactly what they want.
And that is the sort of cage that he's trapped in.
He can lie and quote, like, just whatever comes across the Twitter feed, put no effort into anything and just this is, but that's all you can do.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's no escaping that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because you will be then forced to conform.
Like when you're early, Alex, and you're that iconoclastic kind of guy.
dan friesen
You're breaking into Bohemian Grove.
You're leading the news cycle.
You're setting the tone.
jordan holmes
And one of the things about that is if somebody purportedly on, quote unquote, your side criticizes you, that's when you double down.
You're fucking stupid.
That kind of thing.
Now, if he gets criticized, he is conformist.
He has to conform.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And do what he's told.
dan friesen
There's not really much of an ability for him to be the leader.
He's a real follower now.
And I think that most of any relevance he has is by virtue of like Tucker Carlson.
We'll talk to him.
Joe Rogan had him on his show a couple years ago.
Like there's not a ton of built-in credibility for himself.
There is just like a, oh, Tucker Carlson's one of the most popular people in the world and he says I'm not nuts.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, you know, today, just today, I was watching Rafa play Carlos Alcaraz at the Six King Slam, which is Saudi Arabia's MBS.
He wants to sport wash how horrifying their crimes are.
dan friesen
Sure.
But, you know, WWE does that too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, whatever.
Everybody's doing it.
But yeah, so Rafa and Carlos Alcaraz were playing, and Alcaraz was just beating the shit out of him because Rafa's old and retiring.
But he's a ghost.
He's got the ghost of Rafa there that people still come see.
People want to watch, but they're thinking about the Rafa from the past as they watch the present Rafa.
And they're going, oh, I wish it was better.
And that's what this is.
That is people going like, oh, I remember when Alex was a thing, and now we're just seeing the ghost.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it's got to hurt on some level for him to live in that space.
Yeah.
You know, he always pretends like this, I want to leave once I'm obsolete.
And, you know, like, it's my mission to become obsolete.
Yeah.
And that sounds magnanimous.
And I appreciate that he probably thinks that on paper.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's been true.
And he's painfully holding on to pretending that he's not obsolete and that he matters.
While I would dare say 85 plus percent of his show is dumb shit he saw on Twitter.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's America's funniest home videos.
dan friesen
And him yelling about his feelings.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, it's I don't think that he's replaceable in terms of like how insane he is of a performer.
Sure.
But it's mostly just Twitter shit.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, you know, that's perfect.
The world is a house and he's a motherfucking poltergeist.
He's just a ghost.
He can throw shit and cause problems, but nobody...
You're dead, man!
dan friesen
Go away.
So, Alex, when he was younger, his dad was a dentist.
Sure.
We know this.
Yeah.
But, you know, fluoride is a thing that involves dental care.
jordan holmes
I've heard about it.
dan friesen
I know that it's involved in that world.
jordan holmes
I've heard about it.
dan friesen
When Alex was a kid, he knew more about fluoride than his dentist father.
alex jones
My dad's a dentist.
Still not retired, but he doesn't really practice, an oral surgeon.
And I remember when I first got on there 30 years ago, he said, son, he knew a lot more than me on most sons.
He's not on fluoride.
He goes, son, you need calcium fluoride to live, and it's actually good in your teeth.
dan friesen
I green pilled my dad on fluoride.
He's a dentist.
He didn't know this stuff.
I'm so smart.
jordan holmes
He is smarter than his dad on fluoride.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So I thought that that was just a big brag and that was just fun.
Sure.
But it turns out he was getting into fluoride because he was talking about how they've put all these chemicals in the water in order to turn everyone into mutants.
jordan holmes
Right.
alex jones
I've talked to a lot of people that are engineers and scientists and IT people who will get a six-month or year-long or three-month-long job in Europe, particularly Eastern Europe.
They run, they jog, they're pretty healthy, but they go over there and eat food that doesn't have glyphosate and doesn't have bisphenol A in it and doesn't have atrazine.
And they lose 10, 20, 30, 40 pounds and look 10 years younger.
Nobody in the world allows atrazine, the number two pesticide, excuse me, herbicide in their food supply.
But we do.
And the allowable parts per million bends the gender of most animals that come in contact with it.
So it literally is in the water.
And these people are born this way because it happens in the first month of the zygo.
It happens when the embryo's forming in the first few weeks.
Low levels of it bend the gender.
So you're not a male, you're not a female.
You are a mutant.
And I'm not mad at the mutants, and I feel sorry for them.
And then the system collects them and makes it popular and gives them a new way of life instead of getting this stuff out of the water.
Oh, breaking.
CBS News, federal court rules against EPA and lost it over fluoride and water.
Yep.
I didn't even know that just broke.
Print me that.
dan friesen
So just to be totally clear, it's becoming obvious that this is a new push from Alex to label trans people as mutants.
And I have no other response than if he said it near me, I'd hit him.
Yep.
Even I would hit him.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Like, I just don't care.
jordan holmes
It is what it is now.
dan friesen
The U.S. isn't the only country in the world that allows atrazine.
It's a popular herbicide, and it's used in Canada, Australia, Mexico, China, Brazil, and many other countries.
The major folks who have banned its use are the evil globalists at the European Union.
I'm not trying to say that atrazine is great or anything like that, but the complaints that Alex is making aren't about pollution and chemicals.
It's about his desire to mask his bigotry in a form that he thinks it comes off as socially acceptable.
Also, Alex being surprised by a weeks-old headline about a federal case involving fluoride shows how carefully he follows the news and cares about this underlying subject.
He had no idea this case even happened and hasn't discussed it on his show, but literally every day he's been demonizing trans people and calling them mutants because that's the part that's important to him.
The fluoride shit's just cover to be able to say this stuff and pretend that it's not just based in your desire to control and hate.
Yeah.
Load of shit.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So he sees this fluoride headline, though, that someone flashed up on the screen.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
He's surprised by it, right?
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But he's reporting it as a good thing.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
But then he thinks about it a little longer and realizes, oh, no, it's a bad thing.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
God damn it.
alex jones
Now, the crew flashed up a headline earlier that I misread.
I said, oh, it's good news.
No, it was bad news.
I didn't even know this happened.
A few weeks ago, CBS News, federal court rules against EPA in lawsuit over fluoride in the water.
Even the EPA said it's hurting people, lowering IQs, doesn't help teeth.
Pull it out of the water.
And the federal court said, no, we're going to keep it in the water.
So Bill Gates isn't a doctor, but he wants to control your medical life.
And now this federal court does.
The federal court in California ruled Tuesday against the Environmental Protection Agency, ordering officials to take action over concerns about potential health risk from currently recommended levels of fluoride in the American drinking water supply.
Well, at least the truth's coming out, folks.
And if you're drinking tap water or showering in it and not putting a filter over that or bathing in it, you're nuts.
dan friesen
So when Alex saw that headline, he had no idea what the story was.
So he just made up a version that he wanted to tell the audience.
Now he's had a little bit of time to think about it, and it doesn't quite feel right that the federal courts could possibly be on his side about fluoride in the water.
So Alex has decided to walk it back and report the story as a negative thing where the courts were ruling against his side.
The EPA said take it out and the courts said no.
Then he reads a little bit of the story and it appears to be saying that the court is in fact on his side, which contradicts the correction that he's trying to make.
What's happened here is that the story that Alex made up based on the headline was close to right, but he second-guessed himself and ended up doing an incorrect correction.
One of the main issues here is that Alex doesn't want to deal with this issue sincerely because as it stands now, the federal government doesn't control water fluoridation.
It's handled much more locally than that.
So if you want to end water being fluoride added to it, if you want to do that in your town, the feds aren't going to be able to help you.
Alex wants to pretend that there's a mandate from the top to put fluoride in the water, but in reality, what he's pushing for is a mandate from the top that people can't put fluoride in the water.
If he got into the details and particulars about this case, it would reveal that his position on the issue is incoherent.
And it's mostly just a vehicle to disguise his bigotry and sell water filters and maybe supplements too.
Because, you know, got to get that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is a testament.
Like, this is one of those things where it is the weakest link kind of level of conversation because so much of the arguments and so much of the Twitter and so much of the TV, all of the media stuff winds up boiling down to some people being like, what the fuck exactly do you want?
Every time we talk, you come up with some other bullshit.
But the truth is, by being distracted by this concept of like, oh, do you want fluoride in the water or not?
Then you have missed what they really want, which is fucking to hate trans people.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I have one more clip here, and it is just to get a different feel for the end of the episode.
jordan holmes
Yes, please.
Thank you.
dan friesen
Because as it is now, it's bad shit.
But Alex is a little bit down in this clip, and we can all feel good about that.
unidentified
Hey.
alex jones
I am not somebody to give up here.
And there's a lot of stuff at play, a lot of things going on, a lot of big talk by a lot of groups, some pretty prominent people That they are going to buy InfoWars on November 13th.
Everything in the deep state attack on me of the last 20-something years, but really the last eight years, eight and a half years intensifying since Trump got elected has been rigged.
So I really don't have any confidence that even if we have people that try to outbid the Soros Democrats, that they'll even be able, like the internet will switch off or something will happen that they'll be locked out or they'll be disqualified.
I mean, I would imagine that November 13th, Deep State will get Infowars, and that's the website of the shopping cart and the equipment and the stuff and shut us down.
Maybe that doesn't happen.
Maybe I'm not being optimistic.
But they really see it as a symbol of their victory against free speech, the American people, and against humanity.
To get that, they've been trying to get me off the air for decades, and we have made it through all of that because of your support.
That's why when you call in and just start thanking me a bunch, I say, please stop.
dan friesen
Please stop.
Plug a product.
So I think that Alex maybe got some bad news from one of the people who he was banking on buying InfoWars.
Maybe they're like, ooh, the price is getting a little higher than we expected.
Yeah.
Maybe, maybe, yeah, maybe they've realized that there's a ceiling for this business, isn't that profitable?
jordan holmes
Are they like?
I understand that behind the scenes are behind the scenes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And it annoys me to no end.
But is there like a bidding thing?
Like, are rich people going back and forth?
Like, I'll spent $15 million on it.
dan friesen
I'll spent $16 million on it.
As I understand, I mean, obviously, people have to get qualified to be able to bid.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so maybe there are bigger fish than Alex might have expected that don't want to buy it for him.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And maybe that's leading to a little bit of lack of confidence.
Man, I feel like that's the sense.
I don't know.
I don't know exactly how it works with specific bids and all that shit.
jordan holmes
You should be.
I disagree with any auction that doesn't allow you to go like 16.
dan friesen
Right.
And you need a hammer.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And someone talking really fast.
jordan holmes
Ridiculous.
dan friesen
Probably it should be in a barn.
jordan holmes
I mean, and Alex has a good point.
The internet could go out.
That's why you got to have it at a barn.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Barnes can't go out.
jordan holmes
Barnes cannot go out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I hope this depression that he has is warranted and that he loses a fucking company because this guy's a real load of shit.
I think that there's such a dehumanizing shift.
Like, I understand that his language, particularly around LGBTQ folk, has been dehumanizing forever.
And it may be a distinction without a real difference, but starting this push of labeling them mutants, it means something.
There is a I don't even, I don't even know really how to adequately give weight to that kind of a shift in the way he's talking.
But it's real bad.
jordan holmes
You know, I mean, it's like for most of our lives, the language of euphemism has been the language for us of plausible deniability, for us of being like, maybe what they meant was different.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Maybe what they meant was blank.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe that wasn't racist.
Maybe that was.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Maybe, oh, maybe they did a blank, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Or we should take them to blank blah blah blah and then just talk about it and just get that whole conversation done.
dan friesen
Or, you know, grandpa's work in the right direction.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, he's.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but the language of euphemism is lies, the language of lying.
People are lying.
That's why they use euphemisms to lie.
dan friesen
But this is still euphemism.
Yeah.
But it's a different level of euphemism.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
It's now allegorical, literally allegorical based upon the X-Men.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It is elevated that far.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, I do not like what that portends.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Pretty worried.
But the rest of his show is quite boring.
Other than that, I think I would say a great deal of this episode.
I would have been watching this stuff and I don't really care.
It's stupid shit about Biden turning on Harris.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm getting bummed out thinking about Dr. Drew.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like all this stuff is like, I really feel he has no interest in the actual election.
Yeah.
I think him, he has a similar feeling to what you've described of like, let's be done with it.
Let's get to the other side of it.
There's just nothing.
He's so bored.
It's boring.
So much advertising.
So much desperate, like, we're going.
Go to the sponsors.
I need you to give the money there.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Nothing really is meaningful outside of this shift.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I was thinking about it, and it really is for the longest time.
We've had a solid, like, you know, decade-long cycle and then a change.
You know, we had the Clintons, you know, 12 years with him and Bla, and then we had, or no, the original Reagan.
We had the 12 years with the HW, then the eight with the Clinton, then the eight with the Bush, then the eight with Obama.
Now we've got eight years with the same two people, and our outlet is the same shit at the end of it.
So we've still got another four years of the same exact shit from both of these people, whichever one continues.
There's no freedom of this election.
dan friesen
Anyway, this episode is a depressing thing, but hey, maybe next time it'll be better.
Yay!
Maybe Alex will be better tomorrow.
He won't.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So, but we'll check in on it anyway.
See how bad it can get.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's the epitaph on America.
Let's see how bad it can get.
Are we going to do anything about climate change?
Nope.
dan friesen
Until then, we have a website.
unidentified
Indeed, we do.
jordan holmes
It's Ellajoy.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo Leo and DZX Clark.
I am the mysterious professor.
unidentified
Yeah, woo, yeah, woo.
dan friesen
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
andy in kansas
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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