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Oct. 4, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
01:43:44
#969: September 27, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to find Alex discussing cow/human clones, admitting to some shady dealings with his bankruptcy, and talking about how many times he's had to beat up dogs.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
26:18
d
dan friesen
47:29
j
jordan holmes
24:08
Appearances
d
darren j beattie
01:13
Clips
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pastor david manning
00:02
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steve quayle
00:02
Callers
andy in kansas
00:03
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
andy in kansas
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your room.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
Knowledgefight.com I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan.
jordan holmes
Jordan.
unidentified
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is we were texting, and I remembered the movie Josie and the Pussycats.
Yes.
unidentified
And I went back and I watched it.
dan friesen
Yes.
unidentified
Because I wanted to check in and see if it was as good as I remember.
dan friesen
Did you?
I don't think I've watched it in quite a while in its entirety.
But yeah, it's great.
Great parody of consumerism and advertising.
Great satire.
Everyone is killing it.
Parker Posey and Alan Cumming are just destroying every scene they're in.
jordan holmes
I've never seen Josie and the Pussycats.
dan friesen
You gotta see it.
jordan holmes
I assumed, because the way it was advertised whenever it was out, I was like...
Oh, this isn't a movie that I will enjoy.
dan friesen
It's a teen pop movie or whatever.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And it is on some level.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
But I'm not...
Maybe I just wasn't...
I wasn't attuned to the Parker's Posey or the Cummings Allen.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's a very scathing criticism of advertising and the dehumanizing aspects of it.
And, like, Seth Green, Breckenmire, Donald Faison...
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ, those guys.
dan friesen
...and a fourth guy, who I'm not sure who he is.
Yeah.
Do tiny cameos as a boy band that gets quote-unquote killed at the beginning of the movie.
jordan holmes
Fun.
dan friesen
Like, they were huge stars.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And they were just like, fuck it, I'll do it.
unidentified
Yeah?
dan friesen
Carson Daly is in it as himself.
alex jones
Man.
dan friesen
Fuck it, I'll do this.
It's great.
jordan holmes
What a weird trajectory for Seth Green and Breckenmire to go like, famous, famous, famous Robot Chicken.
dan friesen
Robot Chicken was deeply successful.
jordan holmes
I think it's great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And it's really creatively cool.
dan friesen
And then the two of them were together on Heroes.
jordan holmes
Oh, were they?
dan friesen
In one of the later seasons, they played comic book store employees who helped Hero get his memory back.
jordan holmes
Nice.
dan friesen
Yeah, Seth Green, Rick and Meyer.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
What was the other thing?
There was some other thought about Josie.
Oh, Tara Reid is so good in that movie.
jordan holmes
Tara Reid is so good in that movie.
dan friesen
Yeah, surprisingly good.
To the point where I feel really bad that her career didn't go incredibly well.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Oh, right.
So it's apologizing for the whole career is what Josie and the Buzz.
dan friesen
She had a terrible career, but she's doing some subtle work playing a really dumb character in this movie.
jordan holmes
This is no Sharknado.
dan friesen
No.
She's good.
Anyway, I like it.
Check it out.
jordan holmes
I believe you.
dan friesen
You have to watch it.
unidentified
I will.
jordan holmes
No, I will now.
dan friesen
I will.
It's good.
jordan holmes
I believe you.
dan friesen
Music strong.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Done by Letters from Cleo.
That singer with Biff Naked.
Biff Naked does some of the backup vocals.
jordan holmes
What's wild is that I really do like the Josie and the Pussycats cartoon.
That old Hanna-Barbera kind of style, that was my jam.
I watched all of that style.
dan friesen
Archie spinoff.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'd never, I just, I guess I thought the movie was going to be like a, I don't know, like a bad Charlie's Angels riff.
dan friesen
Actually, there's a good Charlie's Angels joke.
jordan holmes
There's a good Charlie's Angels riff in there.
dan friesen
There's a joke in it, where when they become really famous, there's like headlines that flash over the screen, and one of them is Drew Barrymore, Lucy Liu, and who's the third person in Charlie's Angels?
Cameron Diaz.
jordan holmes
Cameron Diaz.
dan friesen
To play Josie and the Pussycats.
jordan holmes
Oh, nice.
dan friesen
So there's a joke on Charlie's Angels.
jordan holmes
That's fun.
All right.
All right.
Okay.
dan friesen
Anyway, what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is that we have been invited to and are attending a wedding this weekend.
dan friesen
Dear friends, Marty and Sarah are getting married.
unidentified
They're getting full-on hitched.
jordan holmes
It's going to be great.
I'm excited to go.
dan friesen
Yeah, definitely.
I know they've both been on this.
I guess Marty has.
I don't know if Sarah has.
I feel like she would be too bummed out by Alex Jones that I've never subjected her to it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, her energy and Alex's would not mesh well together.
dan friesen
We did the role-playing show, your wizard show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
They're just delights, and I'm thrilled for them to embark on the next chapter of their lives together.
unidentified
Totally.
Yep.
jordan holmes
We've known them through a whole different...
Yeah, it's like...
It is a little bit like, oh, this is a button on a whole chunk of their lives, you know?
And then they've got a whole new one coming up, and it's cool.
dan friesen
It's exciting.
It's real to be a part of it.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
To go and drive too far.
So that'll be fun.
Yeah.
Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
We're going to be talking about September 27th.
That's last Friday.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
On Alex's show.
We're a little bit behind.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But we'll catch up.
We'll catch up to the present.
jordan holmes
I'm sure.
I'm sure the present will go all right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this show is weird.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
As most are.
jordan holmes
I like that.
dan friesen
Alex is sick, I think.
He might have caught a little something in Pennsylvania.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And his voice is just...
I don't know what it is.
There's something about his voice character in this that seems pained, but also I enjoy.
Okay.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
And so we'll get down to business on that.
It is great voice work.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Deep State Hattie.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you!
Next, if you love Rian Johnson so much, why don't you marry him?
Also, check out his first film, Brick.
It's amazing.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
unidentified
You know what?
dan friesen
Maybe I will.
jordan holmes
I can't second that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Brick is amazing, and you should marry him.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
That's what I was talking about.
Marriage.
jordan holmes
I know.
I know.
No, no, no.
I know.
dan friesen
He's my plus one for Marty and Sarah's wedding.
jordan holmes
I'm seconding both of you.
We'll get this going.
dan friesen
Me and Rian Johnson are going to Marty and Sarah's wedding together, and then I'm going to be in season two of Poker Face.
jordan holmes
You know what'll happen?
He'll make a movie about getting married at a wedding.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
That'll be the two of you.
dan friesen
And then Benoit Blanc comes around for something like I'm murdered.
jordan holmes
And then there'll be a murder!
We're at the wedding!
Oh, damn it.
This is too good.
dan friesen
Next, to the team at JWN Designs, Big Pete sent me a bucket of panther poop.
Thank you so much.
You're an out-policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much.
To Suzanne, I'm keeping knowledge fight in the prenup.
Thank you so much.
You're an out-technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Come on, Rian Johnson.
This mustache could match.
Natasha Lyonne's freak in Poker Face.
jordan holmes
That is a good point.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This mustache makes me qualified to be in Poker Face.
jordan holmes
No, I thoroughly agree with you.
Poker Face and Breaking Bad.
Both are available to you at this point.
dan friesen
I think I would be a bad character in Breaking Bad, though.
jordan holmes
You wouldn't be a good guy.
dan friesen
I might have been in the last season.
jordan holmes
You wouldn't be a good guy.
dan friesen
I might have been holding Jesse hostage.
jordan holmes
You would have been, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Plimptum and you might get along well in the last season of Breaking Bad.
I'll say that.
dan friesen
Do you mean...
Plemons?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's what I mean.
dan friesen
You mixed up Pinkton.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jesse Pinkton.
Or Pinkman, yeah, yeah.
And Plemons, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Well done.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
So we start off here, and we've got to count down to the election.
Running countdown.
It's coming up.
jordan holmes
Goddammit.
alex jones
38 days, 14 hours, 52 minutes, 50 seconds for the most important election in world history.
And then once elected, the globalists have pledged publicly, the Democrats have announced civil war conditions in the next 114 days, trying to get Trump actually inaugurated in the District of Evil, D.C. This is 100 trillion times infinity, more important than the NFL and the Super Bowl, because that doesn't matter.
dan friesen
100 infinity times something that doesn't matter, like times zero is zero.
I get what you're saying, but who cares?
jordan holmes
Is the Super Bowl happening right now?
dan friesen
He usually complains about the Super Bowl around the Super Bowl.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we got five months before we have to worry about him complaining about the Super Bowl.
dan friesen
Usually.
But I just, I gotta listen to the version with music.
I can't do this anymore.
I can't listen to this version without music.
This is so sad without it.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
Actually, that could have been a bright spot.
Somebody emailed me one of the speeches with Tank from Cowboy Bebop on Drake.
It works.
It fucking slaps.
dan friesen
You need something.
This just sounds like someone...
Really struggling to get their words out.
unidentified
With a cold.
jordan holmes
Somebody with a cold really struggling to get their words out.
Somebody who's complained about vaccines having COVID again is what he sounds like.
dan friesen
Fuck the Super Bowl.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Super Bowl's not important compared to elections.
jordan holmes
Great.
Fine.
dan friesen
So he goes on.
alex jones
There are so many big stories that we broke 25 years ago, 15 years ago, five years ago, a month ago.
That the public wasn't ready for.
And there's literally thousands of these.
And it went super viral Monday when I was at Tucker Carlson's big event in Pennsylvania.
And I said, I want you to search human-animal hybrid clones are chest-dating inside cows at labs across the United States.
And that pulls up like a seven-year-old, eight-year-old MIT article.
I was covering stuff 28 years ago when I first learned about that.
dan friesen
Yeah, so for one thing, Alex doesn't understand what breaking a story means.
He would cover articles in outlets like the BBC about genetic testing or stem cell research and then pretend that he broke that story.
It was published in another outlet.
The only thing that he broke is that he made up a ton of details about something that someone else actually reported.
But I'm having flashbacks.
Because what Alex is describing here is exactly what he said in 2017 after he was on Rogan's podcast the first time and was talking about human-animal hybrid chimeras.
We're in reruns!
jordan holmes
We are totally in reruns.
dan friesen
We're trapped!
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's no escaping it.
It's like we're in tanks with sad human eyes, and our gills are falling apart.
dan friesen
We're just hearing Alex rejoice in telling a new audience that doesn't generally listen to him his stories.
jordan holmes
You know, maybe he's been hiding in plain sight this whole time.
Maybe you and I hear breaking a story, and we immediately think journalism-style breaking a story.
But maybe he's going with the screenwriter type.
Where he's like, ah, I'm breaking the story, which means that after having gotten together with some people, we figured out the beats that are going to allow us to move forward with our bullshit.
dan friesen
That's possible.
jordan holmes
It's a good way of breaking a story, you know what I mean?
dan friesen
Or a break in the Limp Bizkit sense.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
And break stuff.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Give me something to break!
jordan holmes
I'll tell you what it's not.
Dancing.
No dancing.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Zero dancing is involved.
dan friesen
There's no smoothness popping and locking.
jordan holmes
No, none.
dan friesen
So Alex goes on, and a lot of the beginning of this show is him reflecting a bit on how great he's been about stories, particularly things like human-animal clones.
Sure.
jordan holmes
Just looking into a mirror saying, look at how big our dick is.
How are we doing today?
dan friesen
Sort of patting himself on the back a bit.
alex jones
I mean, just yesterday, in fact, I gathered up the stack quickly because I got here late because I was working on a bunch of stuff.
Dig through the stack, guys.
I thought it was an InfoWars article.
It was also a bunch of mainstream ones.
Global government announced was the headlines as the answer to stop misinformation.
And I've got it back in my stacks today.
The UN is teaming up with major corporations to have a global AI system that tracks everybody's Internet ID and...
Censors, disinfo, and live time, which means anything true.
I mean, those are bombshells that we warned about decades ago.
It's now being rolled out.
Now, what's crazy is they metaphysically have to tell you in the fine print what they're going to do.
jordan holmes
Do they?
alex jones
In the fine print, like in October of 2000, three months before the poison shots rolled out, the FDA put on their website a list of possible and probable Adverse reactions to the mRNA injections that are not vaccines.
They're gene therapies.
They've had for 25 years and no one's ever approved them to the FDA because it always killed some of the test subjects.
Sometimes very quickly within days.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
And many of them died within years.
Some had miraculous healing.
I'll explain why that's so important in a moment.
dan friesen
He doesn't really, but you remember the spouse mouse?
I just, I have to say that if I ever turned on something that I was supposed to take seriously, and they were like, alright, our enemies metaphysically are bound to secretly give away all their plans, I would turn it off.
unidentified
I would say, alright man, I can't take this seriously.
jordan holmes
I mean, even the idea, I think if I were fighting a war, And somebody would be like, ah, you've got to follow the war rules.
I would be like, we're fighting a war.
Let's calm it down.
We can talk about war rules when we're not fighting a war.
That would be important.
dan friesen
I think to the degree that they don't encroach your own decency.
You're not supposed to desert in a war.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But if you're forced into it...
jordan holmes
Dessert!
Get out of here!
Get out of here, kid!
dan friesen
Not like the rules of war that are like, don't...
Kill civilians.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
But I mean, like, if you're planning and the guy's like, oh, well, we can be sure he's going to follow the rules.
Like, no, that's the idea.
You wouldn't be warring with somebody if you were sure that you knew what they were going to do.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That wouldn't make sense.
You wouldn't need to war.
dan friesen
You're beyond the point of, like, this is not a game.
jordan holmes
That guy could do anything.
That guy could do anything.
Yeah, this isn't fucking a game.
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's no, like, monopoly rules of...
The universe.
jordan holmes
And if you're at war, what are you going to do?
Like, complain to somebody?
But he broke the rules!
That's why they've got the war!
dan friesen
Yeah.
I guess in Alex's conception, what you have is, like, demons who are trying to pull off a very challenging thing that God has set out for them.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like, God gives us the advantage.
Right!
unidentified
Because we don't have...
dan friesen
The real cumbersome rules that the devil does.
unidentified
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
But it's possible that the devil could pull it off.
And then God would just have to be like, you did it.
Nailed it.
You played by the rules.
jordan holmes
See, here's the problem, because in this conception...
Now it feels like it is a game between the god and the devil.
And the devil's like, alright, so I've got all this power.
And the god's like, ah, but you're going to only use it like this.
And they can do anything.
Ah, but they don't have magic.
They don't have magic.
What will win, will or magic?
And there you go.
We're kind of useless here.
dan friesen
Yeah, it just feels dumb.
And if I were tuning into this for news, this would be a big problem.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it would be.
It would be a problem.
dan friesen
So there's rampant animal cloning going on.
jordan holmes
I would be fine with that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Not the way that Alex puts it.
alex jones
Now I go up on stage with Tucker Carlson and I say for at least 70 years they've been cloning rabbits, humans, pigs, anything they want.
They just kept it quiet.
Then by the 90s they admitted, oh, Dolly's the first one.
Yeah, right.
At least 30-something years, they've been creating animal-human cross-hybrids.
And they're not just growing them in test tubes in vitro.
They're growing to full size.
And that's in mainline literature from 30 years ago from the government and from the major research facilities.
But you never see newscasts or reports or the creatures.
And, of course, the big thing is, they admit, is they can grow up a humanoid.
Some of the bigger cows can have, like, a 60, 70-pound calf.
So they create these humanoids that develop and grow fast.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
In just, you know, the gestation time, depending on the studies I've seen, six to eight months, and you get like a 60-pound humanoid that's got everything.
It's got a brain, it's got lungs, heart, kidneys, liver, testicles, vagina, uterus, everything.
It's got it all.
And it's a human, but it's enough cow.
And that exact breed of cow, a lot of times it's actually a cross-clone with the very cow it's growing in.
It's cloned 100 bulls or 1,000 bulls of the same or 1,000 cows.
They've got the cows that are genetically related to the humanoid growing in them.
And then they shoot the humanoid out.
They remove all the goodies.
And then people are told, oh, you've got this high-quality organ.
And you think, well, people will then test and know that that's a...
Chimera, not pure human.
No, they have them sign medical forms.
dan friesen
Okay, that explains it.
So this conspiracy is stupid, and the fact that there are over 100,000 people on the organ donor waiting list kind of illustrates why.
If we had a thriving human-cow hybrid supply full of available organs, then you would think that these people wouldn't have to wait for kidneys, for example.
There's more money in providing the organs than there is in having someone on a waiting list, so you would think that would be the case, at least.
And if there's not more money in providing the organs, then there's no reason to create the cow clone program to make more money.
It's a self-defeating fucking plan.
This makes no sense.
jordan holmes
Right.
Whose idea is it, like, ah, god, I wish there was a market for this.
I've got all these clones.
dan friesen
Someone who's messed up and just enjoys cloning cows, I guess?
The super rich people already have easy access to organs, or easier access to organs than finding donors, so it's not like this is a system that would even help them out on that front.
This is one of the classic instances where Alex takes something that he has a kernel of reality behind, then he exaggerates it out and makes up fun sci-fi details to the story so he can sound interesting to these new audiences like Tucker's fans or Rogan's fans, but it's all bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
And it doesn't, I mean, I'm fine with that.
jordan holmes
I'm fine with that.
Right?
Is there a problem?
I don't understand the problem with growing half cow, half people inside of a cow.
That aren't alive and then later just stealing kidneys and shit.
dan friesen
Well, I don't think that that is what's happening per se.
I think it's more about stem cells.
jordan holmes
Well, sure.
In real life, yes.
I'm sure it's a reasonable thing.
I'm talking mad science world.
If there was a mad scientist who was just random out there just cloning.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Just like a beast.
Just cloning.
I'm fine with that.
That's the least evil version of cloning I can think of.
dan friesen
I think that's okay for you to think.
I'm not sure where I would fall on it.
I think there's some interesting questions to be asked about rights.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And, you know, are you a human?
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
Well, I mean, if you're related to a Longhorn...
dan friesen
My uncle is a...
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Exactly, yeah.
I think that it opens up some interesting questions, but I'm not sure you're wrong also.
You may very well be right that it doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
This is a free-range half-human, half-cow liver that you're going to get right here.
dan friesen
I haven't sat down to really map out all of the ethical ramifications of this, but I have considered what Alex is saying, and it's stupid.
jordan holmes
It's stupid, yeah.
That one we can agree on.
dan friesen
So PCR tests, you know, like the swabs for COVID?
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
The ones that worked.
dan friesen
They were meant to create.
A database of everyone's DNA, right?
jordan holmes
I mean, no, otherwise they would have it, because we all did it.
dan friesen
They do, and they're going to make a race bioweapon on it.
jordan holmes
All right, I'm listening.
dan friesen
So Alex talks about this, and then accidentally kind of contradicts himself in the middle of it.
alex jones
I could really impress you.
People only seem to care about something I predict before.
Have the archivist find it.
I did it four years ago.
I said, do not take those damn PCR tests.
I told Joe Rogan when he had me on his show.
He said, sorry, it's the rules of Spotify.
And you've got to do it.
I said, I'm not doing it.
So they go, okay, we'll just act like we do it.
I said, you're not getting my DNA.
So the lady just goes and puts it.
She goes, okay.
Oh, you're clear.
I go, yeah.
I'm explaining it again.
I could buy a metal detector at Academy Sporting Goods today because I bought one before.
And you can, whether you're looking for silver or gold or steel, you set it to the metal you want and you turn up its sensitivity and you can aim it at the sky and turn it all the way up and it'll go until you've got gold or whatever you want.
There's no gold in the sky.
There's no silver in the air.
There's no copper in the air.
There's no bronze.
There's no brass.
There's no steel.
There's no aluminum.
You turned it up so it misfires.
That's what they did.
But that was only scam level one to create all the fear.
They admit it's all fraud.
That's been about the inventor of it.
unidentified
That's been about the inventor of it.
alex jones
They got your DNA.
And it wasn't just the Pentagon.
It wasn't just Bill Gates' corporations.
It wasn't just the U.N. The Chinese communists were allowed to come in.
And they were the biggest collectors of it out of the companies.
And I remember at the time, they had national news stories.
Alex Jones and others claim it's a DNA database.
Damn conspiracy theorist.
They were already doing it with other PCR tests for years.
jordan holmes
Take a lozenge, man.
alex jones
And I'll show you those articles.
There's nothing more frustrating than knowing criminals are in control and only your naivete allows them to operate.
Jim Jordan had testimony about it.
How the Communist Chinese and others and other corporations and companies did this in a free-for-all.
China didn't take the mRNA shot that erases your immune system and primes you for another attack.
No, all the Western countries did.
And then they've got your DNA on top of it so they can tailor weapons.
Remember what the Russians caught starting 10 years ago in eastern Ukraine?
They caught U.S.-NATO-funded labs claiming they were doing blood tests and stuff for the public, and they were bringing it to bio labs to, again, study how to kill Russians.
Same thing.
All confirmed.
And they denied it for a few years, and then the head of the State Department operation against Russia, Victoria Nuland, went on TV in a congressional hearing and said, yeah, we're doing that.
Want to see the clip?
unidentified
Did she?
alex jones
Just look it up.
Victoria Newland admits bioweapon labs in Ukraine.
And you read the specifics?
Race-specific bioweapons.
I'm going to stop now.
I kind of go on JAG sometimes, but I have thousands of topics like this I could go down with you.
dan friesen
You definitely do.
You have thousands of topics you could go down like this, but you're just talking shit.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
This is three minutes of un...
The filtered bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Victoria Nuland didn't say that.
This is just a load of nonsense.
But yeah, so the Chinese government is trying to take your samples or something.
PCR tests are collecting your DNA.
But they've already...
It doesn't make sense because he also says that they've been doing that for a while.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's other PCR tests and shit that they've been...
So it's just maybe a ramp up of operations.
It feels...
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I can't be more hardcore about this.
What's fun about DNA and swabbing it and getting it in front of scientists and being like, all right, now create a race-specific bioweapon is that when scientists who work with DNA look at DNA, they're like, race isn't real!
dan friesen
Unless you're trying to make a bioweapon on InfoWars.
Right.
I mean, like...
jordan holmes
It's insane!
It's insane to the idea that the communist Chinese are getting PCR tests to find the whitey gene to get rid of whitey!
That's not how it works!
dan friesen
It is if you're just trying to do fear stuff.
It's fine for fear in Alex's audience.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
It doesn't make a lot of sense in the real world.
unidentified
Oh my god.
jordan holmes
Honky pox.
dan friesen
Oh.
I don't think the World Health Organization is going to sign off on that name.
I think there's going to be some problems.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, that'd be great, though.
dan friesen
The military.
jordan holmes
It's all in the family, that.
That's what we're talking about right there.
dan friesen
You can't call it Honky Pox because of woke, Jordan.
You know that.
So, the Pentagon, they told the military, don't take these...
unidentified
Tests.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Don't do that stuff.
Don't do it.
Don't do the 23andMe and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because they're just going to make a race weapon on it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
So remember this?
Years ago, old Pentagon leaders told troops to stop using mail-in genealogy DNA kits because the Communist Chinese and others are going to create specific weapons to kill them, Fox News.
Pentagon warns military personnel against at-home DNA testing kits.
New York Times.
dan friesen
So if you go read this article, the Pentagon did tell soldiers to stop taking these at-home DNA tests, but it wasn't because China was making a race-specific bioweapon.
It was because these tests were not always totally accurate, and they could create real problems for enlisted persons.
Non-enlisted people are protected by the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act, which says that insurers cannot discriminate based on people's genes.
If you're the carrier of a particular condition, but you don't have it, your insurance company cannot treat you differently based on that.
However, the military is not bound by this act, and they can discriminate based on your genetic information all they want.
If you take one of these tests, you might learn something that can natechize.
negatively affect your benefits or your possibilities for advancement.
So they were kind of advising people, don't do this.
You might learn stuff you don't want to know.
Wow.
unidentified
Beyond this, there's just interpersonal issues, too.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
The Navy suggested that their folks not get these tests because it could provide inconvenient news.
dan friesen
For instance, you could be on a deployment...
And find out some heavy stuff about underlying health conditions one of your family members might have, or if your kids are really yours, and that could have an impact on your ability to do your job.
Right, right, right.
So they didn't want people to take these for a lot of different reasons.
jordan holmes
You are not a person while you are in the military.
Please do not behave like one.
dan friesen
Especially not on deployment.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So maybe the Chinese were making a race bioweapon.
Maybe that's why, or maybe it's some of these other reasons that are...
Far more connected to reality.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, those make more sense.
I was immediately going to like, oh, well, yeah, obviously the military doesn't want to find out how many people are related to serial killers that work in the military.
dan friesen
Or find out that possibly, like, your kid could have some genetic condition.
There's a hundred fucking things.
jordan holmes
Any number of things.
dan friesen
And I know these things because I consulted the sources that Alex cited, which is weird.
jordan holmes
That's odd.
dan friesen
Maybe you should have read these articles.
alex jones
Nah.
dan friesen
So they want your fucking DNA.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And they're going to get it through the whole COVID scam.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Except they already have your DNA from another narrative that Alex accidentally brings up in this clip.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
alex jones
China's quest for human genetics data spurs fears of a DNA arms race.
So they let China come in here with 23andMe and all these scammers.
And then the Pentagon's like, we're in a race.
We've got to do it through the PCR test and then let China collect too.
Meanwhile, the Pentagon was way ahead of China with everybody born's DNA.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Oh, look.
They're ahead of us.
Yeah, right.
You invented it.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Exclusive China gene firm providing worldwide COVID tests working with Chinese military.
Reuters.
Isn't that just sweetie cake?
dan friesen
The villain's motivations don't make sense here.
If everyone's DNA is collected and put into a database at birth, then there's no reason to do the PCR testing in order to gather DNA.
The only people that would be useful for is people who weren't born in the US, but Alex also believes that immigrants were exempt from COVID requirements because the globalists like them so much, so that's kind of stupid.
This is one of the problems with the way that Alex handles information.
He has tons of disconnected ideas based on his flights of fancy and his need to sound smart and interesting on a daily basis.
He'll start rambling about one of these things, and in the middle of his ramble, he'll mentally connect it with another thing that he's rambled about in the past.
But sometimes that thing will contradict the point of where he started, like in this case.
There's no reason to do PCR tests to gather DNA if everyone has their DNA collected at birth.
It's an internally inconsistent story, and if you listen to that clip, you kind of hear Alex realize that as he's saying it, and then just move along.
That headline at the end there about a Chinese company is about BGI, or Beijing Genomics Institute, who has some involvement with the Chinese government, which I can see that as...
unidentified
Everybody in China has involvement with the Chinese government!
dan friesen
It's the whole thing!
So in 2021, Reuters reported on the extent of their connections, which were a bit troubling.
But also, the U.S. largely didn't use tests created by BGI.
Most of the tests that were available early on here were made by companies by Abbott Laboratories or Quidel, both based in the United States.
Famously, BGI offered to help California provide increased testing in 2020, and the offer was rejected because of concerns of them being too closely.
jordan holmes
Okay, if you have an authoritarian government, one of the perks of the authoritarian-ness of your government is that...
Everybody is closely working with you if you want them to be because you can go to their home.
They can't go to yours.
You're the government.
You can go and be like, hey, guess what?
You're a dry cleaner that works very closely with the Chinese government now because we're an authoritarian regime.
Everybody works closely with the Chinese government.
It's fine.
dan friesen
Well, and Alex isn't dealing with the fact that this isn't information that no one had.
The reason that California, as a state, didn't get involved with them as a COVID response thing that would have been easy to do, the reason was because of concerns about the very thing that Alex is talking about.
California is supposed to be the most liberal, globalist state that's in bed with China.
So none of this makes any sense.
It's internally inconsistent and detached.
But whatever.
jordan holmes
And as a plan, it doesn't make sense.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
For one very obvious...
Well, I mean, for any number of obvious reasons.
dan friesen
One of them he brought up.
jordan holmes
One of them he explicitly says.
But just also, like, the signal-to-noise ratio on data collection of that size is pointless.
If you've got everybody's DNA, everything you have is pretty much worthless.
There's just too much to sift through.
dan friesen
I think that's probably true, but I don't work in that field, so I don't know what exactly you can get out of it.
jordan holmes
I mean, what would you even be looking for?
Like, oh, Derek's there.
Like, what?
dan friesen
I know that on population levels, there are good ways to find markers for diseases and things like that.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So a big enough database like this, while it wouldn't have as much utility on an individual scale, the research use of it would be large.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it could be helpful.
dan friesen
But yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Not to make it a race-specific bioweapon, though.
dan friesen
So Alex takes a lot of time on that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The race-specific bioweapon, if it all.
But then, it's time to talk about beating up a dog.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
God damn it, man!
dan friesen
Sorry in advance to all the dog owners out there.
jordan holmes
God damn it!
alex jones
You don't want to serve Satan, man.
That's the last guy you want to be cuddled up like a little chick under the wings of Satan.
Oh, you're my Satan.
You're gonna kiss me.
The god of failure, the god of betrayal, the god of disorder, the god of ugliness.
Who the hell would want to worship that?
Dumbasses.
Fools.
People that have Stockholm Syndrome and subconsciously and spiritually are scared of it, so they decide to roll over to it.
See where that gets you.
One thing my dad taught me when I was really young, when I'm walking through a neighborhood or something, Dog runs out and starts barking at you.
The last thing you do is run or it's going to bite you in the ass.
You just turn around and be very calm.
That really freaks them out.
And if they keep coming, you say, get out of here!
And if they really keep coming, it's real simple.
You kick them under the mouth right when they come over.
And if that doesn't work, there's plenty of stuff you can do.
And I've only a few times had to beat the living shit out of a dog.
unidentified
What the fuck is happening?
alex jones
What are you doing?
is that, is that...
unidentified
What is the point?
alex jones
If you think rolling over to these people and shelling your ass to them like an ostrich is going to get you ahead in life, you're a dumb bastard.
All I know is it feels good to fight on my feet.
dan friesen
Against a dog?
I think all things being equal, I've only had to kick the shit out of a dog a couple times, is...
Bizarre thing to be brought to say on air.
Because I think he was initially trying to use this as a metaphor, and then was just talking about beating up dogs.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
Yeah!
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fucking...
No!
What?
Stop it!
dan friesen
It went from allegorical to literal.
unidentified
Oh my god.
jordan holmes
I had...
This fucks me up.
Yesterday morning...
dan friesen
You had to beat up a dog?
jordan holmes
No!
Yesterday morning, I was out going to play tennis with my cousin, and as I'm on the way...
All of a sudden, a dog runs by with somebody chasing after it.
And I immediately was like, let's go.
So I started chasing after the dog as well.
Because I was like, oh, this person, they lost their dog.
I've got to help find them.
And it turns out they didn't know whose dog it was.
Neither of us knew whose dog it was.
We wound up running around my block for like a while trying to catch this dog.
And it's too fast.
And I couldn't catch it.
And it crossed the street.
And thank God it made it safe.
But at no point in time would I ever think about kicking a dog!
dan friesen
Right under the head.
jordan holmes
What is wrong with you?
dan friesen
Right under the head.
jordan holmes
That's crazy!
dan friesen
That's where you do it.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
And if that doesn't work, there's a lot of things you can do.
jordan holmes
It fucks me up thinking about somebody not being nice to that dog and that dog running away.
And then their fucking horrifying sadness.
And Alex is like, sometimes you hit a dog.
dan friesen
Fuck you!
No, it's not hit a dog.
jordan holmes
You beat the shit out of him.
God damn!
dan friesen
That phrasing is strange.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
dan friesen
But I think the darkest moment, and there's a lot of competition in that clip.
Yeah, there's a lot.
The darkest moment.
jordan holmes
There's a lot.
dan friesen
But I would argue that the darkest part is when he says, you kick him under the head, and if that doesn't work, there's a lot of things you can do.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The a lot of things you can do is murder.
Grim.
jordan holmes
He's talking about murdering the dogs, right?
dan friesen
I think so.
jordan holmes
I think he's murdered a lot of dogs.
dan friesen
In a variety of ways.
jordan holmes
You know, there is that, like, it's cliche, you know, how you treat the least of these kind of stuff.
But, like, the way people treat people with less power is very indicative of how they're real.
Who they are kind of thing, you know?
And the way you treat animals who depend on you for living is very obvious.
dan friesen
Well, I know that when I'm out at like a five-star restaurant, let's say, and I get bad service, first thing I do is I yell at the waiter.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
Second thing, kick them under the mouth.
jordan holmes
Well, and if that doesn't work, there's a lot of things you can do.
dan friesen
There's a lot of things you can do.
jordan holmes
There's a lot of things you can do.
You know what else is family at Olive Garden?
dan friesen
Yeah, I think he should have taken the day off.
Between the clear sickness he's experiencing and that fucked up thought.
jordan holmes
That should take you home into a bathtub and make you really think about your life and how...
dan friesen
Yeah.
Take a day off, but he can't.
He can't.
Too much news.
jordan holmes
Too much.
dan friesen
Too much news.
alex jones
Alright, I've got so much news on World War III and the economy and just masses of stuff.
I didn't go into a 45-minute breakdown of the technocracy because I didn't have news.
It was the opposite.
I was sitting here thinking, I don't need to just sit here and tell you all the problems and all the symptoms.
I need to tell you the disease, the technocracy, the eugenicists, the globalists that want the life of this technology and have now got it and don't want us to have it.
Stealing the whole future from everybody.
And if people get into what I'm into, which is happening, reality, knowing how the architecture really works, we can change it and defeat it and stop it together.
And I'm not offering some utopia like the left does.
I'm saying a lot better world that's pro-human.
Team humanity.
And Elon Musk agreed we'll call it team humanity.
There's been some buzz around that, but not enough.
I think we need to announce our team.
Not just oppose the enemy, but announce what we stand for.
Alright, let me stop there.
dan friesen
You should.
It's totally fine with me that Alex wants to call his side Team Humanity.
That makes sense.
Whatever.
Generally, people do stuff like that with naming when they're showing their cards about how full of shit they are.
Stuff like the Patriot Act.
Team Humanity is a glaring joke of a name.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're the super nice people foundation of helping people all the time.
dan friesen
My issue here is that Alex can't bring the name Team Humanity up without mentioning that he talked to Elon Musk that one time and that Elon liked the name.
It's very desperate and makes me sad.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
But call it team humanity.
That's fine.
I don't give a shit.
You already took Patriots and all of these other things that aren't things that have negative connotations but now kind of do.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I get worried if someone says they're a Patriot now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I don't like any positive...
The connotation word now has got that right-wing think tank vibe to it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Anything like, oh, we're the happy-to-see-you organization.
Oh, you're fucking scary, man.
dan friesen
I'll still appreciate what patriotism is, and I don't think it's negative to have it, but the word itself has been taken by Alex's side.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
In the same way that humanity will never get me to stop appreciating what humanity is.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But if you want to ruin that name, go ahead.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Go ahead.
I don't care.
It's just a word.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, the ironic implication of Team Humanity is that you're the only people on it, and humanity itself is aligned against you.
dan friesen
Yeah, it is ironic.
So we got Darren Beattie coming in to talk about January 6th and how vindicated they all are.
jordan holmes
Are they vindicated?
dan friesen
Yeah, quite.
Quite vindicated.
jordan holmes
Been a while.
dan friesen
I really don't like this guy.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
I hate listening to him, so we'll just listen to this one clip.
jordan holmes
Okay.
darren j beattie
I'm very disturbed by all these attempts, and I think not enough attention has been given to that latest attempt, maybe even not the latest, but the one in Long Island, New York.
Now, this was something very bizarre because there was an explosive scare.
Cops freaked out.
jordan holmes
They responded to it.
darren j beattie
And then all of a sudden, the media just clamped down on it, and the headline in the news was...
Elon Musk and Marjorie Taylor Greene fall for a disinformation scam and falsely reported that there were explosives.
Then you read like eight, nine, ten paragraphs down and you find the buried lead, which is insane.
And that is, apparently there was some private individual.
At this location, who was training his dog to sniff and detect explosives.
So a private individual was conducting a training exercise involving explosives, and apparently there was a false detection event.
And that triggered the law enforcement response.
jordan holmes
No further information about this.
darren j beattie
No further information about this bizarre individual and why he would be doing such an exercise at a location where the president who just survived two assassination attempts was to speak just hours later.
jordan holmes
No name for this guy.
darren j beattie
No word on whether he too had...
unidentified
An intriguing travel history involving Ukraine and whatnot.
dan friesen
Fun.
So you might notice that they just have decided to drop the whole Trump was hit with a chemical weapon in Tucson storyline.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let that one go.
dan friesen
Because it was ridiculous, and I don't think it was testing well.
jordan holmes
Nah, it probably wasn't.
dan friesen
It was a nice try, and Alex will never have to answer to his audience for pushing that stupid shit, because now we're on to another attempted assassination that gets to be the third try.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
In Long Island, there was a rumor that spread about police finding a bomb, but it turns out that what happened was some idiot had self-trained his dog to sniff out bombs, and his dog erroneously found a bomb.
He reported this to the police, who found that he was wrong, and then took him in for questioning on suspicion of falsely reporting a threat.
Sure.
unidentified
He wasn't even necessary.
dan friesen
Sure.
This guy was just somewhere nearby in Nassau County.
And the Secret Service has said that this was, quote, unrelated to the rally.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Possibly had nothing to do with Trump's rally.
There was no bomb.
There was just a crazy person who wanted to train his dog to sniff bombs.
jordan holmes
So you're saying it was not the mad bomb or what bombs at midnight?
dan friesen
It was not.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
A bunch of the attention-chasing shitheads in Alex's side of the fence, like Musk and Patrick Bat-David, they ran with the story because it was the kind of story that they were going to tell anyway.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's a fun story.
dan friesen
It was good luck and timing for them because the chemical attack story wasn't really working, so this gave them a new angle.
Darren Beattie is smuggling conclusions into this story in a way that's very intentional.
There's no more information publicly available about this guy, so maybe he went to Ukraine.
Maybe he has a suspicious travel history in Ukraine.
alex jones
It's all a cover-up.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
It seems entirely likely that there's no public information about this because the police questioned him, and it was a sincere mistake on his part, so they decided not to charge him.
If he imperfectly trained his dog to smell bombs and in good faith reported what he thought was...
Not going to help anybody.
Absolutely not.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But Darren Beattie is trying to do this thing where he's an idiot, but his tactics aren't stupid.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's operating in a space of unknown information and provides the audience with emotionally satisfying explanations for why they don't know a particular thing and then gives them a conclusion that matches up with the shit he's selling.
But in the process, if you listen to that...
He's asking a question.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's just asking a question.
unidentified
Does this guy have a suspicious history of traveling to Ukraine?
dan friesen
Maybe we'll never know.
jordan holmes
No, but if we release his name, I bet we'll find something.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But what do you think?
jordan holmes
He's just asking questions.
He's just asking questions.
dan friesen
He's not saying anything.
jordan holmes
I mean, I will say that there is one reasonable question to ask, which is exactly how do you train your dog to sniff out explosives without access to explosives?
See what I'm saying?
There's that little question there that lingers.
But let me tell you something.
That the dog got it wrong, that gives me a lot of hope.
I bet he didn't have explosives.
unidentified
True.
dan friesen
That's true.
But also, are all explosives illegal?
Like firecrackers and stuff.
You could get gunpowder and some other components.
jordan holmes
But that's what I'm saying.
That's why I'm less concerned, is because of that false test.
This guy's not working with explosives on the regular and his dog is having a...
dan friesen
And there's such a laundering of what the story is through Beattie, too, because he's like, there was an exercise involving explosives.
Now, maybe it was a dude with a firecracker and a dog.
jordan holmes
No, and now I'm more interested about this dude.
What was he thinking?
Like, oh, I better trade my dog how to sniff out.
Does he have a bunch of dogs?
Does this dog sniff out explosives, but the other dog sniffs out weed?
dan friesen
Has Alex kicked the shit out of his dog?
jordan holmes
Totally!
What?
Where are we at with this guy?
I'm interested in him, but I don't want these people to know about it.
dan friesen
It would just be the same kind of behavior that they're engaged in.
But I could see a very simple explanation of this being somebody who's a Trump fan who thinks that they can provide better security than the government.
jordan holmes
100% possible.
dan friesen
Who has trained their dog to sniff out bombs.
jordan holmes
100% possible.
dan friesen
In a very misguided but possibly well-intentioned.
jordan holmes
100% possible.
dan friesen
Exotic campaign.
You know, that explanation would make sense.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
But who knows?
Maybe it's not a political person at all.
jordan holmes
I mean, it would be...
See, I don't want that guy's information out.
And I don't want these people to meet him.
But if I were at a bar and this guy was like, hey, I have a dog that sniffs out bombs, I would ask him so many questions.
dan friesen
I would say, good, because I got a bomb.
Let's test this.
unidentified
Let's talk.
jordan holmes
Let's figure this out, buddy.
dan friesen
You and your dog have to go to work because I planted a bomb somewhere.
jordan holmes
Where is it?
dan friesen
I am the mad bomber.
jordan holmes
This is the escape room.
dan friesen
So, um, Darren Beattie with his, uh, I just, I have to say this every time he's on, he just sounds like he's twirling a pen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's evil.
dan friesen
Or, um, like, a parody of Academic.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, just like, uh, the boo.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Um, and so I don't care.
Uh, his appearance is boring.
And, uh, Alex comes back after the two of them chat.
jordan holmes
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
He's got so much news.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
There's a lot of news to get to.
jordan holmes
Does he?
dan friesen
He said it earlier.
jordan holmes
Are you?
alex jones
I have got...
A lot of news on every front with the globalist program rolling out of the economy, the election, the hurricane, Kamala and the open borders and the scams they're running.
I'm going to be getting into it all here and so much more I haven't mentioned.
But I really cannot overstate The danger we're all in.
And the major crossroad, turning point, flashpoint, inflection point, fourth turning, political realignment, birth pains ahead of the singularity, moment of truth.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
alex jones
I mean, there's just not words about how existential and real this is.
You're living, I'm living, in the most dangerous, insane, wild time of change, the planet.
That we know of has ever seen in our species.
dan friesen
So this is a standard tactic for folks like Alex who are trying to pad time and defraud an audience.
He's insistent that he has so much actual, hard, grounded, fact-based news to get to.
He's totally going to, but first he's got to rant a little bit about feelings-based stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's no way for anyone to be right or wrong about this bullshit he's rambling about.
Is it the most important time in human history?
Maybe.
Or maybe in five years, Alex will have moved on to a new brand presentation and this will look embarrassing in hindsight, so the pretend he never said it.
Like, this is all feeling-based.
This is vibes and rambling about...
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's entirely possible that the most important event that ever happened was like a volcano going off 25,000 years ago, and we don't even know about it, because all that happened was the people available felt the effects.
They didn't actually see it.
They didn't have the internet to tell them where the volcano went off.
They were just like, it's fucking cold!
That's it.
dan friesen
with this kind of thing too I don't think that there's anything wrong with feeling that what's happening right now is the most important thing sure and I don't think there's anything wrong with expressing it and giving voice to it because on some level there's always a truth to that and it always looks embarrassing in hindsight sure so I don't want to shit too much on it But I do think that when there's nothing behind it...
Like, there's the pretending that we're going to get to this hard-hitting news.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's where I take offense.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I don't...
jordan holmes
If it was in, like, a faux, like, self-help style of, like, well, listen, you can't do anything about the past, so that's not that important anymore, and the future hasn't come yet, so the only thing that really is important is the present, fine.
We can...
Yeah, sure.
dan friesen
This is a faux self-help thing.
He's talking about metaphysical rules that the devil can't break.
jordan holmes
Right, but he's not even doing it good.
dan friesen
It's too much as an excuse for not doing his job as opposed to part of the job.
So this next clip, Alex is supposed to be getting to the news, but instead he rambles about how fun it is to look at people.
jordan holmes
It is fun to look at people.
dan friesen
And I think what I felt...
While I was listening to this was, he sounds like he's describing a mushroom trip.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He sounds like he's on drugs.
alex jones
You can't hide out and have this pass over you.
You can't let somebody else do this.
This isn't 10 years out or 20 years out now.
unidentified
It's now.
alex jones
So that's where we are.
unidentified
And.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
alex jones
There's not words to describe it.
You can see it.
We almost have a moment of silence.
Radio stations we're on don't like it because alarms go off when we're silent for more than 10 seconds.
Sometimes silence is deafening, isn't it?
Maybe just have a mental moment of silence here.
Just sit back and really look at what's going on.
And then look at how wonderful your children are.
Look at how beautiful the stars are, and the trees, and the moon, and the wind, and the leaves, and all the good things in life, all the enjoyment God's given you, all the fun, all the things you've been involved in, all the experiences, and just wow how magic every moment is.
I was hiking the other day on the green belt, and I was watching people come by with their dogs, and the trees, and the birds, and a frog hop by, and ribbit.
jordan holmes
Frog.
The blue frog hop by.
Kick it in the throat.
alex jones
And I'm just thinking, look how interesting that person is that just walked by.
They can be old.
They can be young.
They can be ugly.
They can be handsome.
They can be pretty.
How cute and funny the dogs were.
And just everything's like so fantastic and amazing.
If you've never seen it before.
If we were an alien that came here and looked at all this.
How wild it all is.
And God made all that.
God gave you.
Your heart and your mind and your guts and your blood.
They gave you your wife.
God gave you your husband.
They gave you your children.
They gave you the flavor of that hamburger.
The smell of the flowers.
The taste of the warm coffee.
The thrill of the fight.
The thrill of the chase.
The thrill of hard work.
Just all of it.
Just beauty and magic and strength and amazing.
And what do they want to do?
lock you in a cage by yourself and brainwash you and make you feel all alone because they extract spiritual demonic power from cutting you off from God.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
The rejection of the enemy spiritually is the journey, is the victory.
No matter if you're in a solitary confinement jail cell, you can transcend.
And God will give you the most beautiful visions you've ever imagined.
dan friesen
Still gonna get to the news, I promise.
I just think that there's something about what he's describing that is so much like a mushroom trip.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Like, one of the features of it is things that you see every day, you see them as if you've never seen them before.
That's an experience that a lot of people have.
That's what Alex is describing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's talking about seeing a frog after you've taken psilocybin.
jordan holmes
I have no idea why, but I listen to that and I want him to be a clown at kids' birthday parties.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
I think there's something that...
dan friesen
Talk about it, the clown.
jordan holmes
The kids need to know things.
And I think him being dressed up like a clown and saying exactly stuff like that will teach them something very important, which is don't be like that.
dan friesen
You know what?
I think that you're describing...
jordan holmes
Scared Straight programs?
dan friesen
No.
I haven't seen it in a long time, so I might be talking out of school here.
But Bad Santa.
With the movie Bad Santa.
Starring Billy Bob Thornton.
jordan holmes
Could be.
Boy, that was back in the day.
That was pretense.
dan friesen
I was working at a theater when that came out.
jordan holmes
Was that 05?
dan friesen
I don't remember exactly, but I know they made a sequel.
Alex could be bad clown.
jordan holmes
Super bad Santa.
dan friesen
No, that would have to have Seth Rogen.
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
That'd be fun.
We'll just do mashups.
dan friesen
Super bad Santa.
Combine the two.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
We're cooking.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I like it.
So we get to the next clip, and Alex is going to get to the news.
And instead doesn't.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But says something that...
I really think should be a big problem for him.
alex jones
Now, I'm going to have some big news here.
Ladies and gentlemen, we stand, as I've said, at a decision point, a crossroads in civilization and history.
And the enemies of human liberty and freedom, the enemies of team humanity, have determined in the last decade that InfoWars is critical to be destroyed.
If they are going to win and dominate humanity.
And I accept the challenge and responsibility, but I can't do any of this without you.
So, I ask you to count the cost and to look at the world around you and to say, what are you doing to fight tyranny?
I'm sure you're doing a lot of things and that's good.
And I would encourage whatever you're doing, keep it going.
Many hands make light work.
You don't have to beat it by yourself, but together with God working through us, we will.
But there isn't anywhere in the fight against the globalists that you can do more than supporting President Trump and voting for President Trump and then supporting operations like InfoWars.
And there are some other operations doing great jobs, Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, others, but they are not in the dire straits because we were attacked first the most intensely by the enemy that InfoWars is in.
Without getting into a long diatribe and explaining it all, and I've already done that, I just want to say this.
The coordinates to either keep InfoWars on the air, and even if that gets taken over and shut down coming up on November 13th, I keep saying 16th, in the sale, if they get tyrants that buy it to shut it down, we already have a lot of options and a lot of things and a lot of plans.
That I'm not going to get into here on air for obvious strategic reasons, but I will say this.
dan friesen
The law.
alex jones
It is critical to these operations not being stifled or even hitting a speed bump or a hiccup during the critical time right after the election during the 76 days of hell to have to reconstitute and relaunch.
So, whether InfoWars continues or not, the backups are being done.
And then those will just be absorbed in if InfoWars survives.
If not, we continue.
So I ask for your aid and comfort.
I ask for your succor.
I ask for your support.
I ask for your aid in war for all of our futures at a critical juncture.
You can't spend money, and you can't spread the word, and you can't pray, I say that humbly because it's the truth, for an organization that is on record more effective against the enemy or that the enemy hates more than this operation.
And we try to make it easy.
Go to thealexjonesstore.com, get the amazing 50-plus designer t-shirts that spread the word, and help you meet like-minded people in the third dimension on the ground, and fund this show, or whatever comes after it.
Now is go time.
dan friesen
There really isn't a way that Alex could make it more clear on air that he's redirecting finances and reorganizing his business in likely illegal ways to avoid the consequences of the bankruptcy court.
Prior to this, he had his supplements through InfoWars Life or InfoWars Health, but to protect that revenue stream, his dad and brother-in-law have created Dr. Jones Naturals.
He used to sell his own shirts and merch, but now there's the AlexJonesStore.com, run by his former knife sponsor and a guy who's probably going to jail for assaulting the police on January 6th.
Alex's admission here isn't that he's doing all of this to avoid the bankruptcy.
That's been obvious this whole time to anyone who's paying attention.
The admission he accidentally made in that clip is that none of these businesses are real.
If they succeed in retaining the rights to InfoWars, these companies will be absorbed back into InfoWars because the reason they were created has been subliminal.
I think he's admitting to straight-up criminal stuff here.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Yeah, that's fraud.
dan friesen
Yeah, it seems like it.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, but, like, come get him.
Like, at a certain point, I am now on his team.
dan friesen
I understand that you have this, it's the system's fault that it's not punishing, where it is very, very obvious here.
jordan holmes
Hey, I mean, back in the day, I would be like, ah, justice moves, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Time's passed.
Time's passed for that.
We're past that point, so now it's on you.
dan friesen
I get your point, and I can't advocate anything, but I can just say, this is the shit that he's saying on air.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I feel nothing about it.
That's where I've gotten to.
I feel nothing.
dan friesen
I feel regret.
jordan holmes
I feel sad for anybody.
Who's getting taken in by any of the scams?
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Who are like, oh, if you donate here, we'll bid on something?
Fuck you, don't give anybody any money for bidding on an InfoWars auction thing.
That's fucking insane.
That's insane.
They're just gonna take it, and then when they don't win, they're going to keep it.
They're not gonna give it back to you.
dan friesen
I do think that without being too much of a dick about it, I think that...
I don't know if the attempts to, like, crowdfund to buy Infowars, I'm not sure if those have the potential to make enough money to compete with the kind of backing that Alex has.
I don't think it's impossible to have that kind of backing to compete with Alex.
But I think the potential of a lot of stuff that I've seen on, like, Twitter, I think it's fun.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And what have you, and disrespectful to Alex, which is great.
jordan holmes
That's always nice.
dan friesen
So, Alex, he said that there's some good operations out there.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he said, Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson.
Now, Elon Musk owns Twitter.
And Tucker's show is on Twitter.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he's pretty much just a Twitter guy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's saying that Twitter is really good.
And apparently Alex thinks that Twitter is Google.
alex jones
Then she came out, I sent the clip to the crew two days ago, and I forgot to play it.
But she gave this speech.
I saw it live on CNN.
And she's like, and we're going to stop price gouging with price controls.
She did it again.
And that's why they do it.
It was big when she first said it a few months ago.
She did it again on Wednesday, live, because it was after the show, like 2.30, I was eating my lunch.
And I just sat there and watched her.
And I went and told the crew, hey, get that clip.
I'm sure they did.
I forgot to play it the next day.
And she just announced price controls again.
And then notice, it wasn't, maybe somebody picked it up.
Guys, type into X, because Google's totally rigged.
X is a good search engine now.
People don't use it as that, but that's really what it is.
Just type in Kamala calls for price controls again.
dan friesen
So that's troubling.
Alex thinks that Twitter is a search engine.
I would caution people from...
jordan holmes
Like, computer people are like, oh, they ruined Google.
Like, that's the new, that's the thing.
Not new, you know, but people who've done the analysts.
dan friesen
Google's gone down in quality for sure as a user experience.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they changed their whole thing, right?
And the people who did the research, they noticed that because they noticed shit like that.
None of them would be like, but instead of that.
Use Twitter.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's the most absurd thing.
dan friesen
As a search engine.
jordan holmes
Any complaint you might have had, I think Wikipedia is a great source of information.
For the largest part, it's filled with people who really care about the most specific things.
And good for them.
dan friesen
It can be a good launch-off point.
Don't end there, though.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
But it's still a social source of information.
And that is a social source of information with people who are, like, obsessed with it.
Twitter is a social source of information with people who hate information and want to destroy it.
dan friesen
And are so mad at wokeness.
unidentified
Wokeness!
dan friesen
Yeah, I just find it to almost be self-parody to think of Twitter as a search engine.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, that's crazy.
dan friesen
So he's talking about Kamala Harris announcing price controls when obviously it was about...
Anti-price gouging measures that she would take.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
And so Alex has his team search Twitter to see if he can find this clip that he was talking about.
unidentified
Goddamn.
alex jones
Just type in Kamala calls for price controls again.
And I bet it comes up, the video clip.
But she gave him a speech two days ago and she just announced price controls again.
And then I didn't even see it anywhere.
I'm just guessing.
I bet somebody did.
Harris talks economic plan price controls if Americans can trust her.
Scroll down.
What's the date on that?
I guess she'd know.
This was a spell.
Oh, God, she did it again.
I didn't even know about this one.
Get me that one.
So yesterday, she did it on another show.
I saw her.
See where she gave a speech Wednesday.
It was said live, so like 2.30 Central.
She's giving a speech and says it.
So we already found one.
Wow, well, get me that one.
So see, why is that not a bigger deal?
I didn't even know about that clip.
So in the last 48 hours that I know of, she's called for price controls twice again, and I'm on the news cycle like flies on you know what, or white on rice.
And I hadn't seen that.
So that means we're not making it a big issue.
The damn witch just did it again.
But see, that's how it works.
The first time I freaked out and ran around like a chick with my head cut off, the next time, a couple months later, I'm like, hey guys, get that.
I forget to make a big deal about it.
That's why they do it.
They wear you out.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
So this is a really sad display for someone who's trying to be taken seriously.
He's already said that he thinks Twitter is a search engine and now he's having the crew search Twitter for a video he half remembers seeing.
They find some other clip in a tweet Alex hasn't seen and without watching it or knowing what it is at all, he decides that it's Harris pushing for price controls yet again.
He hasn't watched the clip, he's barely even seen the tweet, and yet he's running with this reporting.
This is pathetic work.
So I found the tweet, and the clip doesn't include Harris pushing for price controls.
jordan holmes
So weird.
dan friesen
She's asked by an MSNBC reporter about her stance against price gouging and how some have accused her of wanting price controls.
She expresses that she's not going to equivocate about how she's opposed to companies raising prices specifically to exploit people's desperation.
It's a fair point that she's making, and it's probably in Alex's best interest to just jump to conclusions about the tweet instead of playing it cold, because I think he wouldn't be able to...
Tell the same stories about it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
This is tough.
This is like 30 years ago being like, ah, you can't trust libraries.
I'm going to go to the bathroom stall at a lion's den off I-80.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's where I'll find the good information.
What's that hole about?
dan friesen
So there's also, like, strip away all the pretense.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Strip away the studio, the fact that Alex is a famous rich guy.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
What you have is a 50-year-old dude getting mad at a tweet.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And then deciding to yell about it.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Like he knows what the story is.
jordan holmes
While he's sick.
dan friesen
It's really sad.
It is.
jordan holmes
He should be watching The Price is Right.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
And yelling at it.
Yes.
He should be yelling like, lower, lower, lower.
That's what he should be doing.
That's what you should be doing.
That's what America does when it's sick.
So just go watch The Price is Right, man.
dan friesen
So speaking of him being sick.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think he did get COVID.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would make sense.
alex jones
Car analogies here today.
They just come to my head.
I don't know if they're the best, but you can think of better ones.
I picked up a little something in shaking thousands of hands in Pennsylvania.
jordan holmes
Who could have guessed?
Who could have seen that?
alex jones
A couple of fire answers sitting in my trachea, stinging me, and a couple up my nose, but it's all right.
But I apologize for the sniffling and snorting and all the rest of it, but it goes with the territory, doesn't it?
So, there's that.
dan friesen
There is that.
Your supplements seem to be doing great.
I did feel a little bit weird about not wearing a mask.
jordan holmes
Did you?
dan friesen
That big of a crowd.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But also, I thought, like, if I wear a mask, I'm gonna get beat up.
jordan holmes
Oh, you're public enemy number one.
You're done.
dan friesen
I felt like this is not a situation where it's socially acceptable.
I saw zero people wearing masks.
And so what I did was, you know, did some testing and shit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Afterwards, because I was pretty worried that I would get COVID.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, a reasonable worry.
dan friesen
Yeah, but no, I was fine.
I tested negative and haven't been sick.
But Alex, the guy who really knows about medical stuff, seems to keep getting COVID.
Or keep getting some kind of sickness.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know.
dan friesen
It's curious.
jordan holmes
I think before COVID, before we all spent two years in lockdown and shit, I was far more understanding of people being like, germs, they could be anywhere.
Now it's like, you know.
You know.
To wash your fucking hands.
You know!
You know these things!
It's available to you!
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
And it does bring up the amount to which risks can be mitigated and people choose not to.
You know, that is something that if there's a clear...
Crystal clear lesson that we can take from that time period.
It is that.
We did learn that there are things you can do.
jordan holmes
Oh, you can totally do that.
dan friesen
There are advantages to wearing a mask in groups of people, even if you're not worried about COVID.
jordan holmes
You should probably do it anyways.
dan friesen
Right.
There's a lot of people who have...
You know, immunocompromised conditions.
And it is a considerate thing to do, especially if you're not feeling well.
jordan holmes
Shouldn't breathe up close to somebody.
Shouldn't avoid washing your hands and then talk to them.
Shouldn't give people a hug that if you're not comfortable.
That totally makes sense.
dan friesen
There's all these kinds of things that are like, well, you realize now how much of choices they are.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex doesn't give a shit and keeps getting sick and probably got a lot of people sick on that trip.
jordan holmes
Can't believe it.
Can't understand how it would happen.
Must be God.
Cool.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we do finally get to some news.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And here's the first story.
alex jones
Now, let's move in to the rest of it.
With an election looming, the U.S. is approving citizenship applications at the fastest speed in years.
And that's been reported by AOL, AP, all of them.
And people from 63 countries in mass being fast-tracked into citizenry.
And I'm not against that, but accept that it's all part of giving the right to vote, and it's being accelerated for the Democrats.
U.S. speeds approval of citizenship applications as electioneers, L.A. Times.
Elon Musk says, George Soros just bought 200 radio stations.
He's buying a propaganda machine to influence you.
More.
And now you think, uh, yeah.
Uh, yeah.
dan friesen
Uh-oh, George Soros is buying radio stations to control what I see, says the insane billionaire who bought a social media site so he could control what people see.
Elon has been so successful in what Alex is pretending Soros is doing that Alex thinks Twitter is a competent search engine.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
This is just pathetic self-parody garbage.
jordan holmes
I don't even know how to deal with it.
dan friesen
But at the same time, you know, hey, I don't like the idea of big groups owning a ton of radio stations, so...
I'm not thrilled with that either, but you should really look in the mirror.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm...
How about...
Let's go with this direction, alright?
Everybody, stop it.
Everybody, stop it.
But Alex, especially stop it.
dan friesen
Stop it in a different way.
jordan holmes
You stop it the most.
dan friesen
Keep on stopping it.
jordan holmes
However stopping it you can, stop it more than that.
dan friesen
Some people should just stop it.
You've got to think about why you need to stop it.
You've got to get into a timeout.
jordan holmes
Yes, yes, yeah.
dan friesen
Also, if Alex had read these stories that he's scanning the headlines of, he would know that the approval speed for naturalization requests isn't really up.
It's back to where it was in, like, 2014.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
When Trump was in office, he almost doubled the processing time that applications were subject to because his administration wanted to make it harder for people to become citizens so they could be disenfranchised.
Trump's xenophobic policies created a problem, which was increased processing time and a huge backlog of applicants.
And now Biden is cutting through some of that red tape to sort of...
Yeah, but...
jordan holmes
Yeah, if there's anything that everybody should be able to agree on, it's that no matter how fast the United States government's bureaucracy may be reported as moving, it is not moving fast.
dan friesen
It could move faster.
jordan holmes
It could move faster.
It could always move faster.
It is not moving fast.
dan friesen
Yeah, and this reporting of, oh, these applications are moving so fast, is exploiting Trump slowing it down.
Right.
Hurdle being removed.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and even then, like, these applications are moving so fast, it only takes 11 years!
Jesus Christ, guys.
You know?
dan friesen
So, in the next clip here, Alex discusses how nobody likes Kamala Harris.
No one likes her.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Because she's not a juicy hamburger.
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
A greasy, juicy hamburger.
unidentified
That is true.
jordan holmes
She is not.
alex jones
98% of people don't like her.
99% of black people don't like her.
You could not find a more dislikable person or a faker.
I mean, the woman is tortured to watch.
Everybody knows that.
I mean, it's like, what the hell is this?
She is not real.
It'd be like if you ordered a hamburger from your favorite hamburger place and they brought you a plastic piece of plastic.
You'd look at it and say, that's not a hamburger.
It doesn't smell.
I can tell it's plastic.
What is this?
And Trump's big old giant triple meat, cheese, onions, crispy fries and onion rings just came out of the fryer, man.
You can see the grease dripping off of it.
jordan holmes
That's bad for you.
alex jones
I cannot even believe we have to even do this.
And they think we're so stupid that a woman that 98% of people don't like in the polls when she was up against 10 other Democrats.
But again, that's the new world order, folks.
They want to feed you what you don't want.
You want a nice salad with some tomatoes and onions and ranch.
They want to give you cockroaches to eat.
The WEF is funding with Bill Gates, wait for it, for school children.
They're already doing it in Europe.
Cockroach milk.
It's not milk.
It's cockroach juice.
jordan holmes
They don't have tits.
alex jones
Why would they come up with cockroach juice?
Because it's the grossest thing you could think of.
Other than...
unidentified
Being with Kamala.
alex jones
That sounds about having sex with a cockroach.
dan friesen
Makes me so disgusted on a beat up a dog.
Yeah, right?
I think he's hungry.
jordan holmes
You know what's nice?
Here's what's nice.
Once you have Hillary...
Doesn't hurt.
Oh, she's so mean.
Everybody hates her.
Yeah.
Welcome to the fucking...
Who cares?
We already ran that one.
dan friesen
It does...
Well, it also feels like once they've done all they did against Hillary, a lot of the same tricks just don't feel as potent.
jordan holmes
No, you nailed Hillary with those.
It's just not going to work anymore.
That's the problem.
You hit her on the head.
And you know what?
You got her.
Congratulations.
Good for you.
But that's only a one-time shot, you know?
dan friesen
You also made a great point that Alex's metaphor is a meal that is really bad for you.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And probably going to give you a heart attack.
jordan holmes
Perceptually, you believe that this is something that you will enjoy.
And during the process of eating it, you will find that you do not enjoy it.
And then you will die early.
dan friesen
Trump's going to make you shit your brains out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Yes.
Trump is the diarrhea of politics.
Congratulations.
dan friesen
Also, they're not trying to make kids drink cockroaches, but that's fun.
jordan holmes
I mean, I'm fine.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fine.
dan friesen
Should we get to another news story?
jordan holmes
Because the first thought I have, I understand.
They are not milking cockroaches.
There's not going to be a little lab somewhere with a bunch of little, like...
dan friesen
Are you imagining Robert DeGiro as a cockroach?
jordan holmes
I'm 100%...
dan friesen
Can you milk me?
jordan holmes
Can you milk me?
dan friesen
You're imagining him as a cockroach.
jordan holmes
I mean, why not?
unidentified
Now you are.
jordan holmes
Now I am.
dan friesen
So, we get to another news story.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And it's just about woke again.
Woke has taken over.
jordan holmes
Things are woke.
alex jones
Remember the New York Times headlines and others a few years ago?
Is milk racist?
You want a new one today?
Zero Hedge.
Migrant, now racist hate speech, says unelected language cop.
unidentified
The Intercept is reporting it.
alex jones
And the UN group wants you to stop using it.
So first, don't call them illegal aliens.
Then don't call them aliens.
Then don't call them illegal.
Then don't call them foreigners.
Now you're supposed to call them migrant.
And now you don't call them migrant.
You call them citizen like...
She said, and like Biden said, the minute they get here.
dan friesen
Not really.
So this is an op-ed piece in The Intercept that was covered in Zero Head that Alex is whining about, where the writer discusses linguistic history and how the term migrant or migratory wasn't generally used in terms of people until fairly recently.
that had patterns of movement, and in some ways the labeling of people as migrants assumes that they are always migrants, which is to say that they're not incorporated into the whole of where they arrived.
And so there is an interesting point that's brought up by this.
The word is somewhat fitting for seasonal workers who would come up from Mexico and then return, but that term doesn't describe the population that it's being applied to now.
This isn't some woke lecture that's being forced on Alex.
It's a good point that writer Debbie Nathan makes, and I'm going to reflect on this language use on this front, thanks to...
What I read in the article and points that were made.
I use the word migrant a lot as a catch-all term, and there's probably a better word that I could use in a lot of those instances.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I did not realize that.
So, it's a good point.
Anyway, Alex is mad about this because he's constantly searching for new things to be mad about and hates immigrants.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think the irony of what he said is he does bring up the point.
That is being missed by the very cogent explanation of migrant and its history is that...
Your problem with the word migrant has nothing to do with the word migrant.
It has everything to do with Alex using the word migrant.
Because, as he said, oh, it used to be we could say foreigner, but now we can't say that.
Because the meaning of foreigner is, to me, the same as the meaning of migrant, is the same as the meaning of scary murderer, is the scary Mongol.
dan friesen
Your problem is that you can't denigrate this population.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
You use this word as a way to other and hurt.
Right.
And you don't care about the word itself.
jordan holmes
Right.
And, you know, the problem with that...
The idea of like, oh, well, people didn't use the word migrant like this before.
That's because back then they were using forerender.
dan friesen
Or harder slurs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
The reason is not because it's being used wrongly.
It's because it was adopted to avoid you being like, you shouldn't call them the N-word.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And the thing that this piece I thought was interesting is like, obviously it...
Addresses that and the othering language and the dehumanization that's inherent to the process that we've had of these words.
But at the same time, it does also make the point that what migrant means isn't really accurate in this sense.
And I think that on that level, Alex should...
I don't know.
Listen.
Just shut up, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, that is so...
It's always interesting listening to somebody who is an expert at linguistics and linguistic history.
dan friesen
Talking about an unelected language cop?
jordan holmes
Which, again, that's my favorite way of describing anybody.
Oh, this unelected language cop.
That's good stuff.
But at the same time, like...
Their meaning of the word has nothing to do with your understanding of the definition of the word, the popular usage of the word, the historical context of the word.
They have stolen the sounds that that word symbolizes to you and turned it into foreigner.
They're stealing it.
They're thieves.
dan friesen
And Alex's main complaint is about people judge me for using these words angrily.
Yeah.
All right, man.
jordan holmes
I mean, people judge you for using the meaning of words wrong.
You're doing it bad.
dan friesen
So we got another big news story, and it turns out you can't ask questions anymore.
jordan holmes
At all?
dan friesen
Nope.
There's other unelected cops, apparently, who are...
You can't ask questions.
alex jones
Finishing up, I was just hitting on these UN-affiliated groups now, and the media and the professors saying, oh, now the word migrant they told us to use, you're not supposed to use that word now, it's racist.
Well, that dovetails with this article from Infowars.com.
Links right to the announcement yesterday.
American Psychological Association tells children that asking questions is a form of disinformation.
They say if it's a school or mainstream media, do not ask questions.
That's bad.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that's quite a story.
jordan holmes
That is a big deal to tell children not to ask questions.
dan friesen
Yeah, so if you go to the Infowars article that Alex references, it actually doesn't link to the American Psychological Association, but it pretends to.
jordan holmes
So weird.
dan friesen
Instead, if you click the link that appears to go to their primary source, it takes you to a Substack post on a blog called Armageddon Prose, written by somebody named Ben Barty.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
He's not exactly a hard news kind of guy with one of his recent articles.
Now that's an elected language cop right there.
So here's a choice passage from that article.
Sounds kind of mad.
jordan holmes
Neither of those two things would be real.
Restorative justice, I would say.
dan friesen
Seems like the kind of guy that I'm going to link to as a source, though.
Seems like a good writer and qualified.
jordan holmes
Going to be tough.
dan friesen
So anyway, on his blog post, he doesn't link first to the APA either.
Instead, he links to another substack, which sets the framework for what the APA set.
Only after that is there a link to the actual document.
As it turns out, it's not an announcement or a document.
It's a book called, quote, True or False, The Science of Perception, Misinformation, and Disinformation.
It's a landing page where you can buy that book.
This other substack covered the blurb on the page where you can buy the book, and this seemingly very not racist guy covered it again on Armageddon Prose, and then Alex covered his blog post on Infowars, which he is now talking about.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
All of this just comes back to, like, a three-sentence overview of the book.
A three-paragraph little blurb.
By the time this is on Infowars, the article begins, quote, So stop asking questions, says the APA.
That's quite a lead.
jordan holmes
You know what I like about the horrible laundering system that we have that gets this kind of stuff all the way up to Fox News eventually?
What I do like is that even people like Infowars have to be trolling around, fighting that, going like, man, I can't believe this guy found a way to be mad at this book.
That's amazing.
It's impressive to get that mad about something that is not possible to get mad at.
dan friesen
Well, I think that there's a pretty good, clear reason.
Why they're mad about this.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And I'll talk about that here in a second.
But I want to make the point that none of what is going on here, none of what's in Alex's coverage of this or any of the stuff that he links to on the Infowars thing, none of it...
It's supported by the underlying material.
This is not for children.
It's a preteen or young teen focused book, according to the blurb.
And they never say that asking questions is intolerable disinformation.
And this is what it all links back to.
Like, all of this, Alex links to the blog.
The blog links to another blog and the associated, the AAPA book sales website.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So following this train of sources, you go InfoWars, blog, APA.
It takes you right back to the primary.
In fact, the page to buy the book, it links to a seven-page excerpt from the book that includes a note for adults reading, quote, Definitions of critical thinking vary, but most focus on a number of different cognitive skills, including the ability to analyze and think rationally about it.
Whatever the definition, the goal is to help students develop a questioning approach to information so that they can arrive at an unbiased judgment about its accuracy.
That's the only time the question appears in that sample section.
Yeah.
unidentified
The InfoWars article and then Alex, by extension, are taking their reporting entirely from the Armageddon Pros blog...
dan friesen
In its headline, quote, APA's children's literature, disinformation can be spread by asking a question.
This doesn't appear in the APA page selling the book.
It's a construct entirely of Ben Barty's interpretations and feelings.
But if you go to the second Substack post that he links to in his post, they actually read the book, and that blog includes the passage that this is all being based on.
It's absent from Ben's blog and also from Alex's coverage, but if you go an unnecessary third step deeper, you can find what they're talking about.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
And the problem is that this book very accurately and dangerously conveys the entire game that Alex plays.
From the book, quote, It might be disinformation, especially if the person asking doesn't have facts to support what they're implying, or if they can't even answer their own question.
Disinformation spread through questions can be used to challenge scientific evidence, even when there's no proof that the data are wrong.
This makes me think of...
Darren Beattie, when he was on earlier, asking a question about, is this person possible?
unidentified
Just asking a question.
dan friesen
Has he ever been to Ukraine?
Does he have a suspicious travel history to Ukraine?
Is that disinformation being spread by a question?
jordan holmes
I don't think he can answer that question.
dan friesen
No, he can't.
jordan holmes
It makes me suspicious.
dan friesen
Yeah.
If people more widely understood this tactic for spreading bullshit ideas, Alex wouldn't have a career, and neither would any of these dipshits in the whole ecosystem that he lives in.
They know it, so they have to create disinformation about people who are trying to help people understand this dynamic, which is why this guy gets mad on the blog and which is why Alex is covering him getting mad on the blog and misreporting it this way to his audience.
What's interesting is Alex's insistence that he's covering the actual source document here, when he's covering a substack covering another substack.
Why didn't he go one step deeper and just report on that second substack that actually read the book and has the information available on it, as opposed to the substack that he did use as a source which doesn't have any of this stuff?
I suspect it's because the writer of the Infowars article wanted to use some of Ben's language and some of his lines, like this one that they do quote from Ben's blog about the...
Quote, Quote, This is the subspecies of human, parentheses loosely defined, that aspires to be the gods of the brave new world, argues Ben Barty of Armageddon prose about Toner and her ilk.
jordan holmes
Oh, good.
dan friesen
So I think he wanted to use the kind of vibe that this guy is putting forward.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also, just before that part that Alex quoted on the blog, Ben also said, quote, look at those Adderall reptile eyes on this bitch, Jacqueline B. Toner.
Weird that didn't make the part that Alex quoted.
Maybe it was a little too over.
jordan holmes
Damn!
dan friesen
Or the article about white cucks supporting Kamala Harris.
See, I think he wanted some of that editorial tone, which is why he used Ben's...
And when I say he, I mean whoever wrote the Info's article.
But they wanted to retain some of that, which is why this is a source, even though it's an incomplete source and a bad one.
Whereas the other sub stack would have worked to show the thing that you're claiming to report on.
I don't know.
It's interesting.
I think it's intentional.
Yeah.
unidentified
You would rather guide people to this angry racist guy's blog than, uh, Yeah, 100%.
dan friesen
Totally.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, it makes perfect sense because it gives you the two things that you really want, which is it gives you the chance to say you've cited a source so you feel like a real journalist, despite the fact that you haven't, and it gives you the chance to quote people who say things that you would say but that you wouldn't be allowed to say if you were a journalist, so you get to be like, ha-ha, see, I didn't even say it!
dan friesen
Isn't it fun?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex tells a little bit of a fib about this book.
alex jones
Why asking questions is a conspiracy theory.
Why you shouldn't do that.
Again, you know you're in a cult when that's happening.
American Psychological Association's children's literature disinformation can be spread just by asking a question.
Wow.
And here's the document.
True or false.
And it goes on saying, asking true or false is not good.
You need to do what you're told and take things at face value.
jordan holmes
I don't feel like it's...
alex jones
Oh, wow.
You don't walk from something like that.
unidentified
You run.
dan friesen
I guess.
If he looked into this at all, he'd know that one of the sample pages is actually a big list of statements that it asks the reader to assess as true or false.
Bulls get angry when they see red, or swimming after eating causes cramps.
It's an illustration of statements that are false, but a lot of people probably believe because of the way information has been transmitted over time.
A lot of well-meaning misunderstandings or mistakes have contributed to a lot of people having incorrect perceptions, and that's okay.
You can build from there, typically by asking questions, which this book encourages you to do.
Alex is committing a deep fraud in order to...
Not have people question what he's doing.
Protecting the business by not allowing this influence in that calls out the game he's playing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is fun.
jordan holmes
It's like that...
What?
My oldest brother was saying something about 90% of your body heat escapes through your head.
And I was like, okay.
Here's what happened.
They were testing body heat.
And then they didn't make the guy wear a hat, okay?
He wore a suit, but he didn't wear a hat.
So all the heat...
There was only one place for the heat to go.
It has nothing to do with...
Whatever you're saying about 90%, it doesn't make any sense.
It doesn't make any goddamn sense!
It's just bullshit!
dan friesen
And it's a good thing to think when you're remembering to have your kids wear a hat when it's cold out.
So why not believe it?
It's a harmless misconception.
jordan holmes
You've never been like, oh man, I can't believe that guy died because 90% of his body heat.
What are you talking about?
dan friesen
Should've worn a hat.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex says that his gold sponsor is going to be coming on to talk, so I got real disappointed and felt, well, my time is not long here.
I will be leaving once the doctor, the good doctor, comes around.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But first, Alex blessed me with a really fun one-two punch.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So he starts talking about how many people have cows in the U.S. Okay.
Maybe not for clone purposes, just for beef.
Just for beef.
jordan holmes
I like the idea of a guy who trained his dog to smell clones and keeps calling the cops and is like, oh, there's a clone!
dan friesen
Plot twist.
That's why the dogs are so mean to Alex and has to keep beating him up.
jordan holmes
Right, because he's a clone!
dan friesen
And that's how he finds out.
jordan holmes
Got it.
dan friesen
So anyway, he starts rambling about how many people have cows.
alex jones
And so Kamala comes out over a month ago and says, these corporations gouging people, we're going to lower prices by not letting them overcharge you.
Now, our country is still so competitive, unless it's something like insurance or things that the government's got involved in that are oligopolies, that's groups that work to form monopolies, that most stuff's very competitive.
Eggs, bacon, milk, lettuce, tomatoes, strawberries, cucumbers, anything.
jordan holmes
I'm legally required to have insurance.
You understand that.
alex jones
There's hundreds of thousands of groups and people producing potatoes.
There's hundreds of thousands of people, probably more.
Own cows.
I mean, there's a lot of people that only have like 20 acres and they got five cows and they have a few babies a year and every few years they sell a couple cows and, you know, you get $5,000 or so.
It's a little extra money to pay the property tax.
I would guess, let me just randomly guess.
I bet the number of people just randomly in the United States out of 350 million raising cows, type in the number of Americans raising cows.
jordan holmes
To Twitter.
alex jones
I bet it's 5 million.
Just type it in.
They'll have a Commerce Department number.
I bet it's...
I mean, we got an economist, Kirk Elliott.
He's about to come on.
You search into that.
You're the economist.
How many Americans raise cattle?
See, we got five of them.
That counts.
I would imagine it's in the millions.
So there's competition there.
dan friesen
It's competition because a lot of people raise cows.
Probably five million.
jordan holmes
I strong one?
That is an insane way of thinking about how things work.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
I bet there's millions.
Things work.
dan friesen
This is why ChatGPT cannot replace Alex.
Random stray thoughts and trying to impress people with his guesses of how many people have cows.
jordan holmes
Hey, I bet it's 4.15 in the morning.
I bet it's 4.15 a.m. right now.
Go ahead and Google it.
dan friesen
For now.
jordan holmes
Look it up.
dan friesen
You better look it up quick.
jordan holmes
It's going to change.
It'll be 4.16.
dan friesen
I think that one thing that's not being taken into account is the government subsidies that go into all of these crops.
Like, a lot of them are...
Their government is involved in a lot of those things.
Alex isn't taking that into account.
But I don't really even give a shit, because I like a guessing game.
And I love it when Alex gets into one of these moods.
Because sometimes, you would be surprised by...
Random trivia that he does kind of actually know.
So sometimes he'll ask himself a question like this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it'll be pretty close.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And he'll be like, I was just going from memory.
And he'll feel really proud.
jordan holmes
He will feel proud of himself.
dan friesen
And then sometimes it goes like this.
jordan holmes
There's 20,000 max.
Something crazy.
dan friesen
Well, maybe it's 5 million.
That's the over-under.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
I'm going to take the under.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Most of the time, even under Trump, a gallon of filtered water was more than a gallon of gasoline.
So you're getting gouged by the gas station that has nothing to do with that.
That's a lie.
But she wants price controls on gas stations.
All right, less than 1% of Americans are involved in farming operations, which includes raising cows and agriculture.
So 1% of $350 million.
They're saying a few million.
I don't think that's accurate.
unidentified
I've driven all over this country, Wisconsin, Texas, California.
jordan holmes
Probably all over this country.
They're fucking everywhere.
alex jones
You have to get the exemption, the ag exemption, and they've got cows.
Or they're raising bees or something to cut the taxes.
That's not true.
They probably don't even have accurate numbers, I would guess.
jordan holmes
Why?
Why wouldn't they have accurate numbers?
alex jones
We actually have numbers.
About 5% of the public in the last numbers I saw are somewhat self-sufficient with a large enough garden or farm and cows to be self-sufficient.
It used to be like 45% during the Depression.
But I digress.
The point is there's competition there.
There's a lot of people raising cows.
But I'm digressing.
dan friesen
Certainly.
Certainly are.
So, let's track this.
Alex started by, for no reason, challenging himself to guess how many people raise cows.
jordan holmes
I bet everybody raises cows.
dan friesen
I bet it's five million.
jordan holmes
I bet it's five plus million.
dan friesen
He starts talking about something else.
Someone does look it up.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And it turns out that he is way over.
jordan holmes
Too many.
dan friesen
So, instead of saying, like, I was off, he says that is wrong.
jordan holmes
Ah, fuck them.
dan friesen
They're wrong.
And not only that, the actual number is unknowable.
It is impossible to know how many people are raising cows.
I have driven around.
I've seen a lot of cows.
jordan holmes
Probably in Wisconsin.
dan friesen
So I'm actually right.
This number is wrong, and it is impossible to have knowledge because I have been shown to be wrong.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
But you know what is knowable?
This talking point that I have about 5% of the population being self-sufficient, which is changing the subject entirely.
That's not how many people have cows.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
This is stupid.
I think this is the person who's trying to tell you that the man says that it's a conspiracy to ask questions.
This is a guy who's trying to tell you that he understands the rules the devil follows.
This is a petty, stupid asshole who thinks Twitter's a search engine.
And you see a demonstration of the way that he's acting when he's confronted with being wrong about something.
It's funny.
jordan holmes
By himself.
Yes.
By himself.
dan friesen
About cows.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I can't imagine being at a fucking local fair, walking by and being like, oh, I bet there's 20,000 jelly beans in there.
Now there's 500.
Fuck you!
There's 20,000.
Give it to me.
dan friesen
Really?
jordan holmes
Can anybody count that high?
dan friesen
How can one know?
jordan holmes
Can anybody count to 500?
No, obviously not.
So there's 20,000 jelly beans.
Give me the jelly beans, please.
dan friesen
Well, yeah.
It's sad.
jordan holmes
It's insane.
dan friesen
It's weird.
jordan holmes
It's insane.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I love it.
dan friesen
I love a moment like that.
jordan holmes
Nah.
They're wrong.
No wrestling with it.
No, like, moment of, like, what if I am wrong?
What does it mean if I just, like, overestimate it?
Wait, maybe I was just embellishing.
Maybe you know what I was?
I was kind of actually just saying that it's more...
What I was saying is, like, metaphorically, it's more than you think.
It's more than you might imagine.
That's what I was trying to say.
dan friesen
Competition is all I was trying to say.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's what I was trying to say.
But instead, it was, nah, they're wrong.
It's five million.
dan friesen
And this is something that I think is magical and can really only exist...
In a semi-empowered workplace.
Yeah.
Like, Alex has given the people who are behind the boards enough ability to just Google shit and put something on the screen that sometimes it's a problem for him.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And he has to roll with it.
They don't know that he absolutely doesn't want them to put that up.
jordan holmes
They can't know.
dan friesen
Or maybe they do know.
unidentified
But...
dan friesen
They put it up anyway.
Maybe they don't care.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Who knows?
dan friesen
It's such a weird work environment that this can happen.
Any professionalism, this would never happen.
It's charming.
jordan holmes
It's amazing.
dan friesen
Anyway, Kirk Elliott comes in, and who cares?
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
So, I think the most important thing about this episode, really, at the end of the day, is that admission that he has of...
That these businesses are fake.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
All this other shit that he's doing will be absorbed into Infowars if they succeed in repurchasing the IP.
Yeah.
I think I've not heard him be that blunt about it.
But yeah, probably nothing will happen.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So, okay, how about this?
All right.
So 5 million plus people have cows in the United States, which we are accepting as true.
That is now 100% true fact.
dan friesen
We know that it's true because it's unknowable.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is unknowable.
I do love that.
Okay, say one of these clone cows...
Right?
Escapes.
Or whatever.
Interbreeds with one of these regular cows.
Alright?
We already know that with that Monsanto guy, if he gets a hold of your Gene stuff, he'll splice it and he'll get his own thing going.
Somebody is making their own homemade clone cows.
Talking about Percy Schmeiser?
Yeah, exactly.
I need to know who it is.
I want a homemade clone cow.
dan friesen
Well, and here's the thing.
If you do a 23andMe, you might accidentally find out.
jordan holmes
I am the cow!
dan friesen
It's an inconvenient knowledge that you're partially related to a clone cow that Percy Schmeiser is growing.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
Oh, man.
dan friesen
We've learned a lot today.
jordan holmes
We have learned a lot today.
dan friesen
But we've also learned nothing.
jordan holmes
We've learned nothing.
unidentified
So we'll be back.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
unidentified
Woo, yeah!
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robot.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
Hello, Alex.
andy in kansas
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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