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Sept. 20, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
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#965: September 15, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex responded to news of another attempted assassination against Trump.  Turns out it's bunker time.

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alex jones
15:20
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dan friesen
38:19
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jordan holmes
23:58
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harrison smith
01:02
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jack posobiec
01:56
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col ghannon burton
00:25
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ivan raiklin
00:11
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naomi seibt
00:49
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nick sortor
00:54
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pastor david manning
00:02
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steve quayle
00:02
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andy in kansas
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
knowledge fight.
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
andy in kansas
I love your room.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
alex jones
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
unidentified
Oh, indeed we are.
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is, I don't know why necessarily YouTube recommended something to me, but I'm glad they did.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
It's something I didn't really know existed, but somewhere in the back of my mind, I kind of think I must have known.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's something called GeoGuessing.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I know.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, baby.
Oh, that's the shit.
Oh, you don't know about GeoGuessr?
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
I think I knew it existed on some level, emotionally.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But I never watched a tournament of it.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
And I...
Became endlessly fascinated.
jordan holmes
It's incredible.
dan friesen
Well, because they have not memorized the whole world.
jordan holmes
They can't possibly have memorized the whole world, can they?
dan friesen
No.
And so I understand how this works.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Sort of.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Right?
Obviously the sun, the position of the sun.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It has something to, that'll give you a clue about hemispheres and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Anytime you start with obviously the sun, we're in for a long day.
dan friesen
Right.
But like, the quality of the video.
Or the picture that you're seeing.
The particulars of the car that is driving it.
Like, these things are tells that they have.
Like, oh, this is in Asia somewhere.
It's like, that to me is an insane amount of information to consume and then have at your disposal.
jordan holmes
And then synthesize and then apply.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Insane.
dan friesen
But then sometimes they are able to figure out, like...
Oh, I see a little bit of writing over here.
I know what street that is.
It's just amazing.
But here's what I like.
jordan holmes
What do you like?
dan friesen
They still always call it a guess.
It's geo-guessing.
jordan holmes
It's geo-guessing.
dan friesen
This person could figure out, like, I don't know.
One-eighth of a mile from a random picture on Google Earth.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And it's still a guess.
It's a little insulting to what these people are doing.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know.
dan friesen
What a great guess!
jordan holmes
Man, but...
Sometimes when they get it so close, it's witchcraft.
It is honestly terrifying whenever they're like, oh, and now we'll zero in on the exact spot they showed, and then it's the exact thing, but at a little bit of a different angle, and you're like, that's the exact spot!
dan friesen
How did they do that?
And it's pretty remarkable how they managed to make a coherent game out of it.
The way that if you guess quick, you put the pressure on the other person because the timer will shorten.
So there is kind of a strategic element to it.
I got really caught up in...
jordan holmes
It's riveting, too.
It is quite literally riveting to watch these people look at a map and go, I wonder where that is.
dan friesen
Yeah.
When I started, like, the first...
In a little bit of it, I was like, that can't possibly be what this competition is.
jordan holmes
It is exactly that.
dan friesen
It's exactly that?
jordan holmes
100% that.
dan friesen
And somehow it is entertaining.
jordan holmes
No more and no less.
It is exactly what you think it is, and it's great.
dan friesen
I was also watching the 2024 championships, and I was like, man, they drew a crowd.
There's a bunch of people here to watch.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Weirdos look at pictures of maps and be like, I know where that is.
jordan holmes
It doesn't need to be as visually compelling as we're so used to sports having to have things going on.
It's just two guys kind of looking.
dan friesen
Being like, oh.
jordan holmes
They're real intense.
dan friesen
Are they going to get that clue?
That might be a clue, but also might be a false clue.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Wow.
Let's see.
This picture looks like it was taken from a couple of years ago.
Now, only in this.
What country are these models of cars still used?
This one is obviously the tires are only about three quarters worn, so they've been doing this.
Is it Tanzania?
What?
dan friesen
But here's the fucked up thing.
It's like, okay, if you see a white car, you know it's got to be one of these four countries.
It's not because there's only white cars in those countries.
It's because there's only white cars captured on their Google car or whatever in those four countries.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
I don't...
It's...
I just got a glimpse into a deep, deep world, is what I'm saying.
And I enjoy it, I'm glad it exists, but I'm going to become a GeoGuessr.
That's what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
That's your plan?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I think it's an admirable pursuit.
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is, well, from the mailbag, Zip.
Zip.
One of the wonks is actually a camera operator at, you guessed it, the United States Tennis...
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
And they have sent some swag.
dan friesen
The United States Tennis Playing Open?
jordan holmes
No, I was just making it a...
dan friesen
I didn't know if that was something else.
jordan holmes
No, no, it's the U.S. Open.
It's the regular old U.S. Open.
So he sent a tennis ball with the U.S. Open.
I mean, it's very cool for me.
So I think it's very cool.
dan friesen
So you got an official ball from the Open?
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
Wow.
Yeah!
Has this been sweated on by Alcaraz?
jordan holmes
I wish.
We can pretend.
Oh, I'd put it right up into those nostrils.
dan friesen
Wow, that's awesome.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
Did you get any wrist sweat?
jordan holmes
I haven't actually gone and picked it up yet.
I just know that it has arrived.
dan friesen
That's exciting.
jordan holmes
So I'm excited to go grab it.
dan friesen
Maybe a U.S. Open headband?
jordan holmes
I mean, it'll be really cool.
dan friesen
Replace your tie-dye nonsense.
jordan holmes
I would be so excited to wear a U.S. Open headband.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Straight up.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
jordan holmes
Thank you to them, by the way.
In case they were ever wondering if I was thanking them.
Yes, thank you.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
I'm glad you cleared that up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, for sure.
dan friesen
I thought you were saying, fuck you for sending that up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, fuck you!
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fuck you for this episode.
jordan holmes
Not you.
dan friesen
The universe.
jordan holmes
Fair.
dan friesen
Because it's not great.
A package from the U.S. Open is great.
This ain't great.
But, hey, we're going to be talking about September 15th, 2024.
The reason for this, day that Trump got shot again.
Or sort of.
Kind of figured, let's see what Alex is up to.
See how he responds to the day of news breaking that someone shot at Trump again.
But didn't, actually.
But there was a gun on his golf course.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So we'll get down to business and see how Alex handles this.
But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Liriel and Robert, clearing hoarder houses full of rats carcasses.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Matt eats a sodomite's bucket of poop.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you.
And Tucker's callous cannibalism joke.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And we get a technocrat in the mix.
So thank you so much, too.
I've been a wonk for three and a half years and finally got around to asking for a shout-out.
Thank you so much.
You're now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
And if you would like a shout-out, just send an email to knowledgefight at gmail.com.
Jordan will get you on that list.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
So, look.
Butler, PA.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He had a Trump assassination attempt.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There was a shot while he was on stage.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Got some ear, a lot of blood in that ear.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And, of course, Alex afterwards was like, they're gonna do it again.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
I think everybody was kind of like...
It seems like it could happen again.
jordan holmes
These are the times.
dan friesen
But Alex was very insistent there was going to be poisoning, there was going to be a car bombing, or something like that.
Yeah.
I won't give him prophetic credit for a guy with a gun showed up near the golf course in Mar-a-Lago.
unidentified
Nah, it doesn't count.
jordan holmes
That doesn't count.
dan friesen
But he will.
He will give himself the, I called this credit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Of course.
And we'll see what else he does.
But here is an out-of-context drop, because this is just super cool.
alex jones
It's going to be real funny when they kill him.
Not.
unidentified
Ha ha!
So cool.
jordan holmes
That is the first time the 90s has really made me laugh.
unidentified
Psych!
jordan holmes
Oh god, what an amazing...
dan friesen
It's good.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
You say a thing, and then you dot, dot, dot, and then say not.
dan friesen
Perfect timing.
jordan holmes
Perfect.
dan friesen
So, here we go.
We'll jump in with Alex breaking the news here on his show from the 15th.
alex jones
We are 50 days, 9 hours, 59 minutes, 34 seconds, until the election, the most important election in world history.
It is Sunday, September 15, 2024.
And on Friday's show, I said another...
An assassination attempt against Trump is imminent, probably at Mar-a-Lago, probably at his golf course.
That's the main target.
They know when he's there most often.
And we caught the globalists with their pants down on this big time.
I have literally hundreds of articles where within minutes of this breaking, about an hour and 45 minutes ago, every channel, CNN, New York Times, all of them have been given the official story by whoever.
That it was just a gang shootout and it wasn't Trump and everything was fine.
Then Sean Hannity was supposed to go with him and play golf this morning but didn't.
Calls Trump and calls other witnesses.
They're between the 5th and 6th hole.
The Secret Service see a guy with a gun pointed at Trump.
They reportedly start shooting.
They tackle Trump.
He had a semi-automatic rifle described as an AK-47 type.
They return fire.
The individual...
Flees in a black SUV and has been captured.
Now, will they blame Iran?
We don't know.
But who gave them the story that, oh, it's a high crime area, the richest area in the U.S., and that...
jordan holmes
Isn't that a high crime?
Am I right?
alex jones
It was an assassination attempt of Trump.
dan friesen
So I'm not sure exactly what media Alex is talking about where they said there was likely a gang shooting nearby Mar-a-Lago, but as far as the stuff I saw, everyone was covering it as a potential attempted assassination pretty much from the jump.
I don't know what...
This guy didn't shoot at Trump.
The Secret Service saw a gun muzzle in the bushes and shot at him, so he fled and then was caught.
Much of the early reporting about this explains that at Trump's golf course, it's pretty difficult to provide complete security for the entire area.
jordan holmes
It's a golf course!
dan friesen
But that expense is provided for a sitting president.
Since he's not the president, they had this standard where they would secure a hole Trump was playing and then someone would go ahead and secure the next hole before he got to that and also maintain security on the hole prior, which is pretty tight security, but it does have some gaps.
Secret Service did its job here, and without them being alert and doing a good job, this guy could have gotten a shot off.
More importantly, I'm not convinced that anyone cares about this happening.
Apparently, attempted assassinations are just kind of normal now.
It feels very weird.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think in general, if I was Trump, my concern would not be with being shot during an assassination attempt, but with the number of concussions that I'm going to receive over the myriad times the Secret Service is going to tackle me during each attempt.
dan friesen
It's a real concern.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, CTE is our...
dan friesen
He's an elderly man.
jordan holmes
Totally.
What if he breaks a bone?
This is, I mean, frankly...
dan friesen
I think it poses more of a risk for him.
Great!
So yeah, I don't like this.
I don't like the idea that, well, this has happened again, and I think already, we're recording this on the 19th, and already I think...
jordan holmes
Everybody's moved on.
dan friesen
Yep.
I don't like that, but it is the vibe.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
What does everybody want?
Everybody wants to party, just let me know where the party is.
Let's just go there.
I don't know what to tell you.
dan friesen
So here's a potential location for a party.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Bunker.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
That's where Trump should be having a party.
jordan holmes
That is a good call.
dan friesen
In a damn bunker, Trump.
alex jones
Don't worry, A.G. Garland briefed on Trump security incident.
Ladies and gentlemen, you can't go to the DHS or the Justice Department.
They're the ones that had the stand down and lied to Congress and did what they did in Butler.
And when they failed and Trump got even more popular, what were they going to try again?
Well, you know what they're going to try again.
They're going to try to kill him again and again and again.
And Trump needs to start taking this stuff seriously.
He needs to just go to a media bunker, point out the deep state's trying to kill him, and broadcast basically 10 hours a day.
They'll win by 75 points.
If he keeps running around, they will kill him.
If he makes it to the election, they'll kill him when he's president-elect during the 76 days.
jordan holmes
So should he be in the bunker then, too?
alex jones
They're going to keep trying until they kill him.
We'll be right back.
I'm Alex Jones.
We're live.
dan friesen
This guy maybe should never leave a bunker.
jordan holmes
Okay, new plan.
Everybody who thinks they're important enough and under threat enough to require a bunker, get to your bunker right now!
Get to that bunker!
And then we'll all just pretend like everybody's down there forever.
And then we just move on.
dan friesen
Yeah, and we're totally watching the broadcast.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
Oh, that's so scary.
You guys better stay in that bunker.
dan friesen
Ten hours a day.
We love all that content, Trump.
jordan holmes
So good.
We've got a guy watching it.
dan friesen
Trump, you definitely have enough to say for ten hours a day.
Oh, no, you probably don't.
Maybe you should give a couple of hours of that time to Alex and do your bunker broadcast network.
Some dumb shit.
jordan holmes
I'll tell you what, as long as they're in the bunker and everybody up here is pretending that it's where they need to be, I think we'll be fine.
dan friesen
Trump gets bored, starts interviewing a robot.
Like, what are you going to do to fill ten hours a day?
jordan holmes
This is ridiculous.
Oh, man, I would watch...
dan friesen
Somebody wants this.
jordan holmes
I would watch Trump bunker talk.
dan friesen
Big brother?
Trump bunker big brother?
jordan holmes
Yes!
The Trump cabinet is now in a bunker and we're doing big brother voting stuff.
dan friesen
Throw in Alex.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Throw in a lot of these ding-dongs.
unidentified
100 million.
dan friesen
Throw Loomer in there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Get them all in there.
dan friesen
That would be good.
jordan holmes
I would watch it.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Ratings would be high.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
Some of those physical challenges would be tough.
Yeah.
Alex probably would fuck around and get voted out first, too.
jordan holmes
Quick question.
Could Trump use the Secret Service to do those physical challenges for him, like a superpower?
dan friesen
I mean, not according to the rules of the show as it exists.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But we can rewrite that shit.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it's in a bunker.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think he could have a champion.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Maybe Alex could be his champion.
jordan holmes
I like this.
Now we've got champions.
I'm liking this.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Or I guess, like, get Stephen Miller to be his champion.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because he's been around for a while.
jordan holmes
Let's just put him in a different bunker by himself.
dan friesen
He doesn't seem to have a whole lot of personality.
jordan holmes
Let's just keep him in a bunker.
dan friesen
Maybe one of his kids.
Maybe Don Jr. could do it.
jordan holmes
That would be fun.
dan friesen
Yeah.
On his behalf.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Sort of like a designated hitter.
jordan holmes
Watching them have to try and not hate each other is just great.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
And that would be just so great.
That'd be so great.
Who's going to get head of household?
The politics down there.
jordan holmes
The politics would be so petty.
It would be beyond...
Like any reality TV show that we've ever watched, we would watch that and be like, I can't believe pettiness exists on that level.
dan friesen
This is really the only way that Trump going to a bunker and broadcasting 10 hours a day is a viable option.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
As it is now, it's very funny for Alex to suggest this as like, this is what you should do.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We've gone in a matter of a very short amount of time from...
Trump needs to do fireside chats to alleviate and reassure the American public, too.
We gotta get this fucker in a bunker.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Yep.
We need to go full fucking pirate radio.
He needs to be in international waters in a submarine in case a nuclear blast goes off.
dan friesen
In something that is shockingly evocative of Hitler's last days.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Calls to mind positive images.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, Saddam Hussein's two kids are still alive, right?
dan friesen
According to Alex.
jordan holmes
According to Alex, yeah, I think so.
dan friesen
So they're going to try and kill Trump again.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Alex will tell you that he was right on and ignore the car bombs and all the other stuff that he predicted.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But there needs to be a motive.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And I think in this next clip, Alex lays out what the motive is.
alex jones
Massive developments are happening every day.
The globalist deep state tried to kill Trump and Butler.
The evidence is overwhelming.
They lied to Congress about it.
All the evidence came out last week.
They want to start pure World War III with Russia.
Biden did greenlight bombing Russia starting as early as this week with heavy U.S.-made missiles, an act of war.
Russia says they need Trump out of the way for their big global plans of global domination.
So there's so much to unpack here.
Now, about two hours ago, on the golf course by Mar-a-Lago, between the fifth and sixth hole, citizens saw it, witnesses saw it, now come out, a man very calmly got on an SUV with a GoPro and a rifle and go up to the woods and wait, do right where Trump would be, totally being coordinated, ladies and gentlemen.
And either began to shot or was about to shoot, and the Secret Service tackled Trump, shot at him.
He escaped.
They've captured him.
Now, did the globalist hire through some third party, an Iranian, who thinks he's for the Iranians, and they're about to set up Iran at World War III?
We've seen a lot of pre-programming on that.
I don't know.
Is it some maniac that had help?
Because he clearly knew we're right to be.
dan friesen
So it's fun to just spitball nonsense in the immediate aftermath of a potentially pretty serious event.
But that's, you know, that's Alex's prerogative.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine a weirder thing to occur than for the former president currently running for president to be assassinated by Iran before the election.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That makes so little sense to me that it would be mind-boggling, right?
dan friesen
It does.
It would.
It's a strange thing to imagine.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, that being said, there have been intel reports that have come out that Iran has made threats against Trump.
So, like, the possibility of it actually happening I don't think is zero.
But it would be nuts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, but I mean, I think that's kind of a back and forth.
Trump's made threats against Iran, Iran's made threats against Trump.
You know, everybody just kind of threatens each other.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
But I mean, that would just be such a strange news day of everybody going like, okay, well then now what?
What's your next step?
dan friesen
Sure.
Yeah, no, I agree.
jordan holmes
You don't control the government now.
Yeah, I don't know.
dan friesen
Weird.
I don't know what would play out.
Yeah.
I don't think it's likely.
jordan holmes
Ah, very.
dan friesen
And I don't think that's what this was.
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
But at least now we kind of have some sort of a coherent idea of why they want to kill Trump.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And the idea is that he won't allow them to have war with Russia.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So I guess that's what it is.
jordan holmes
Right.
Okay.
dan friesen
There's some coherence there, at the very least.
jordan holmes
Okay, so Alex's conception of this geopolitical battle is Iran comes out and says, we have killed Trump, and now we'll go to war with Russia.
dan friesen
No, I think that Iran will be used as kind of a...
Sort of a false flag opportunity.
They'll blame someone.
They'll blame Iran on a patsy of some sort in order to get a war going with Iran.
In lieu of a war with Russia.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
They want both.
They want it all.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They just want wars.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The globalists are real greedy, and they love their wars.
jordan holmes
They just love their wars.
dan friesen
Yeah, and Trump stands in the way of them.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So that's why they've got to take him out.
jordan holmes
Even if he's just golfing.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So they're going to try and kill Trump and Vance.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And pay close attention here, because Alex says pray for Trump, but does not say pray for Vance.
alex jones
They're making their move, folks.
There's a coup over America.
They stole the 2020 election.
They know Trump's winning by a landslide.
There's not enough fraud to steal it.
Too big to rig.
And so, all they can do is try to kill Trump.
And they're going to kill J.D. Vance, too.
They've already been sabotaging their aircraft.
Both their aircraft have had problems all of a sudden.
Emergency landings.
This is just out of control.
Drone attacks, you name it.
Pray for Trump right now.
unidentified
And...
alex jones
You know what?
If he keeps doing this stuff, I'm going to go on the trail following Trump around, bullhorning and making a big scene about this.
jordan holmes
Do it.
alex jones
I'm going to protest him if he continues to do this.
Not that they don't support him.
It's the opposite.
Trump, you're in a war.
It's time to put you in the bunker.
dan friesen
I'm going to follow you around on tour and bullhorn you to go to the bunker.
Go to the bunker.
Alex has suggested he was going to do this in the past, and he hasn't, but it is a funny...
It's a funny image.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Hey, it's tough to travel that much on the road.
dan friesen
I don't think Alex could.
jordan holmes
I don't think so.
I don't know if I could.
Honestly, getting older these days.
dan friesen
Well, the days of the Caravanity Project are kind of maybe behind us in terms of what they're able to pull off.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You can't send Owen in a tank to go do this in 2024.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
You don't have the budget.
alex jones
Nope.
dan friesen
Don't have the tank.
Owen's on parole.
jordan holmes
Maybe you don't even have the Owen.
I was going to say, don't even have the Owen.
dan friesen
Owen can't leave the state.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Times are tough.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yep.
dan friesen
But I do like the idea of Alex showing up in the background of some of these events and just yelling, go to the bunker.
jordan holmes
I think the thing that I clock here is that if I wanted to metaphorically kill Trump, the number one thing I would do is convince him to pick J.D. Vance as his running mate, right?
dan friesen
Sure.
And if I wanted to cut off...
Any kind of momentum or appeal that he has to anybody, I would say go get in a bunker instead of doing these fun rallies that are the reason people like you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think the safest man in politics right now is J.D. Vance.
dan friesen
Probably, and that's why you don't have to pray for him.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
If you hate Trump, he's your guy.
dan friesen
But the only real threat, I think, to whatever makes Trump popular is...
Listening to Alex.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, stop doing your traveling show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Guy who is only relevant because of your traveling show.
jordan holmes
Stop drumming up all of this public support that you so desperately need since you can't do anything else anymore.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, you gotta go to the bunker, though.
jordan holmes
Go to the bunker!
alex jones
He should pick one of his golf courses that has a resort area in the corner of it.
unidentified
They have those.
alex jones
He owns a bunch of golf courses.
It's got a mansion on it that can be defended and encircled with no major roads around it so that people can't bring truck bombs in.
And then that's not even safe because they can hijack a jet and fly it into them.
So he needs to be...
dan friesen
Relatable.
alex jones
Not on the news.
Trump's back at Mar-a-Lago.
Everybody knows he plays golf every day.
And then this guy, and there are police and Secret Service all over the place, trolling back and forth.
Pulls up, parks his SUV, and then magically knows how to run in the woods.
And I've looked it up.
They do question anybody that pulls a car off and parks it, usually within a few minutes.
So he wasn't like checking here and checking there and pulling over here and running over there and looking for Trump on a giant golf course, 18 holes.
I live on one, folks.
Believe me, it'd be hard for me to...
You know, just know somebody's playing golf at some time and then just drive around on the roads looking and hoping I see them.
dan friesen
See, these are the kinds of heroes we need for populism.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The people who live on golf courses.
jordan holmes
You know what I love?
I love it whenever they invent 1500s defensive measures.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
You know, like, oh, what should we do?
Build a castle?
Yes, I love that idea for our presidential democracy.
dan friesen
See, he has a golf course.
He has a mansion.
Many of them.
Plenty of them.
He needs to choose the most defensible one and take a moat around it.
jordan holmes
Defensible one.
dan friesen
He needs to put a moat.
Now, here's the problem.
People can swim.
This is why we need alligators in that moat.
jordan holmes
It makes sense.
dan friesen
This is why he really needs to use one of the southern states, one of the golf courses on the southern states, because it's temperate for swamp monsters to be in the moat.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is very much like, you know, sometimes you look at people when they make decisions in the past and you're like, ah, that doesn't make any sense.
But if you start where they started and then just keep reacting in the wrong way, you'll find yourself in that dumb spot where you're like, well, castles do make sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, and it's just silly that Alex has this whole thing of Trump is a man of the people.
He owns all of these golf courses, and he's going to choose the most defensible one and create a bunker.
And also, I live on a golf course.
I'm relatable, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, one of the most reliable measures of the quality of a ruler is whether or not he can walk amongst his people without protection.
For the protection is the people.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, look, if you just pretend that all attacks come from the globalists, then this is not a test.
jordan holmes
That does make sense.
dan friesen
So you're kind of dumb if you don't think that this was a conspiracy.
This whole thing was all a plot.
The Secret Service once again tried to kill Trump.
alex jones
I'm going to get a cup of coffee, and I'm going to come back and lay through all this, but we can obsess over the new assassination attempt in the details all day.
You're an idiot if you don't think the deep state, bare minimum, told this guy where to go.
Now, notice you're seeing a press conference right away.
You never saw one in Butler, did you?
Because that was a total setup.
This guy just got told where to be, guaranteed had an earpiece or a phone, but the FBI's going to be able to control that phone.
Who told him where to be?
Who guided him to what spot?
They need to check all his GPS, his phone record, how many times he's been back to the golf course, who'd he meet with?
But the Justice Department's going to run and control this, so you'll never see that.
dan friesen
This is really just conspiracy bullying.
Alex has done nothing to prove any of these claims.
He's done basically nothing to convince me that this shooting was a deep state plot.
But now I'm an idiot if I don't automatically accept the framing that he's presenting.
I feel like his career really would have gone nowhere if he was acting like this the whole time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
There's no appeal to this.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, no.
This is like a thing that you can only get from...
After having built something?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Because now you take it all for granted.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And your audience will let you get away with it.
But I mean, this is just...
He's just drawn conclusions that are based on nothing and is like, I will express hostility towards you if you don't automatically accept my conclusion.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Cool, man.
jordan holmes
Just blind rage and fury.
Okay, great.
dan friesen
It's not the kind of thing that's going to bring in flies like honey.
jordan holmes
It is the kind of thing that's going to make me suggest you should go to a bunker.
dan friesen
Having some bunker thoughts.
jordan holmes
Having some bunker thoughts.
dan friesen
So Alex does make up a fair amount of details about this shooting.
jordan holmes
Well, that's nice that he makes them up.
alex jones
This did not happen 50 days out from the election by accident.
Just like Butler didn't happen by accident.
The cover-up and the lies and the stand-down and everything else.
And it's a no-brainer that they're going to try again and again and again and again and again and again to kill Trump.
And they ask in the press conference that's still ongoing, well, why didn't he have a Secret Service guard in the golf course?
Well, he's not the president.
He gets a small number.
And he supposedly has Army Special Operations, former people, there's no such thing, that are guarding him as well.
Well, didn't work, did it?
Private citizens stopped it.
Like they tried to stop it in Butler, but the Secret Service sat there.
dan friesen
So this is a lie, and Alex knows it's a lie.
Anyone listening to this show should know that Alex is intentionally lying, because just before this, he played some of that live press conference from the police, which included this.
unidentified
The Secret Service agent that was on the course did a fantastic job.
What they do is they have an agent that jumps one hole ahead of time to where the president was at And he was able to spot this rifle barrel sticking out of the fence and immediately engage that individual At which time the individual took off Alex has a vested interest in creating the narrative that the Secret Service didn't do anything to stop this assassination attempt, and that it was just a loyal Trump fan bystander who caused a response to happen.
dan friesen
This was the narrative that stuck as it relates to the Butler shooting, so it's important for this one to follow the same pattern, because they're supposed to be being carried out by the same people for the same goal.
This is the priority.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Because it's almost cartoonish the way that it's described, too.
You can see the mental image of a barrel suddenly, slowly sticking out through with a little...
And then somebody running in going...
It's such a simple and calm picture.
It is not complicated.
dan friesen
It's the Secret Service, by following the protocols that they follow, found this person.
And Alex is being like, oh, that's proof that they did it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
It's almost like, I mean, what would I say?
It's partially noteworthy just due to competence.
It's just a really competent way of things working out.
dan friesen
Yeah, it would be great if they did have a castle and a moat around this golf course because the former president is there, but that's...
Unfeasible.
And so it turns out this system worked pretty well.
jordan holmes
Yeah, everybody did their job.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, it's almost not notable.
dan friesen
So you know who didn't do a great job?
The shooter.
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
Because he chose a bad gun.
alex jones
Is that our problem?
You know, gun and all the rest of it with his scope.
They said it was an AK-47 type rifle.
The clip, the magazine looks like one.
But...
I don't know.
The rest of the rifles, like a Dragunov or whatever those Russian-style sniper ones are.
There are a lot of those sold in the market here in the United States.
Not the rifle I'd use.
But thank God these guys aren't using.300 windbags.
jordan holmes
I could assassinate any old president.
alex jones
.38 Lapua or some of the others.
I know there's some smaller rounds people like, but I like a.300 Win Mag.
I can shoot mountain goats at 800 yards all day, never miss.
But, thank God they're not using a real rifle.
That's what these people think are good.
dan friesen
That's a strange place for your brain to take you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's essentially, I have a bigger penis, and you're an idiot, because I could totally assassinate any old president whenever I want to.
dan friesen
But thank God that you don't have that ability.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I know guns.
jordan holmes
Yikes.
dan friesen
And I think Alex is like saying lapula.
He says that a lot.
jordan holmes
It's fun to say.
Lapua.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
It's got a, like, in the middle of it.
It's got a nice crescendo, decrescendo.
I like it, yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex rants here a little bit about how they're going to blow up Trump's plane.
Okay.
Which was his prediction last time, too.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And it didn't happen.
But maybe now, because there was another shooting, they'll have to ask away.
jordan holmes
If it's on the golf course.
dan friesen
I guess.
alex jones
They're just waiting to have some driver or somebody that works with one of these reporters.
Be a Trump supporter, mainstream media matter, that get on Air Force One.
Trump should not have the press corps on his airplane.
Everyone should be double-searched when they come on, because all it takes is a half pound of plastic explosives, or two pounds, or a pound, woven into the inside of a purse, inside the lining, and then the plane's taken off, perfect time, and all you do is dial the cell phone, call, and when the call goes through, Fuselage blows out.
He'll probably detonate at about 3,000 feet to get a good crash.
You ready for Trump?
You ready to wake up?
jordan holmes
You need to go to the bunker, man.
alex jones
You ready to be at work at lunch and everybody starts running around going, oh, President Trump's plane went down.
You ready for that?
Ready to hear, oh, a big explosion at Mar-a-Lago.
You ready for that?
You ready for that?
Because that's what you're going to be watching and you're going to be seeing, and he'll be dead.
And then they're going to stage a bunch of false flags and say right-wingers did it in response to it.
And this is all very easy to know what's going to happen.
I'm sitting here, like, telling you what's going to happen if Trump doesn't stop.
Do I have to get on an airplane and find his schedule and go make a huge scene?
I've been thinking about what I'm going to have to pull.
God, do I have to do everything?
dan friesen
I have to do everything around here.
Am I going to have to pull up Trump's plane?
What the fuck is going on here?
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, did anybody ask you to do something?
It was like a voice in the back of your head being like, you're going to have to do it.
Am I going to have to do it?
Nobody wants you to do it.
dan friesen
God was.
God was telling him you have to do everything around here.
jordan holmes
Strong disagree.
dan friesen
So yeah, Alex has to go make a big scene in order to make Trump stop doing these events.
Because if he keeps doing these events, it doesn't go to a bunker.
The globalists are going to kill him, and then there's going to be a bunch of false flags that get blamed on right-wingers in response to that.
And then we're off to the races, probably war with Russia.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
But the translation for that is that if somebody kills Trump...
Whomever it may be.
Then, no matter what, because of what we have done to right-wingers' brains, they are going to believe it was blank.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
No matter what.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then they're going to do stuff.
dan friesen
There will be some acts of domestic terrorism, a lot of them probably right-wing in nature.
unidentified
Right, right.
dan friesen
And we will call them false flags.
jordan holmes
Right.
No, there's a weird, like, admission of, listen, because we have destroyed any and all reasonable objective truth, or the possibility of agreeing on it, We're in trouble.
It's just a strange thing to admit.
dan friesen
Unless we put Trump in a very, very safe cage until the election.
First of all, we have no chance of winning that election, probably.
And second, someone's gonna hurt him.
It's just...
Too many accelerationist types.
Many of them on the right, many of them on the left, many of them probably of no discernible political real motivation.
Sure.
Recognize the value of him dying in terms of kicking off all kinds of crazy shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I guess.
I guess.
Or maybe they're all recognizing that the opposite is true.
It's a waste of your time.
Because nobody actually is going to wind up caring.
dan friesen
I think that maybe fortunately that is kind of how it seems to...
There's not like...
A great deal of reprisal, necessarily, that you've seen in the aftermath of this.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
You've seen a lot of people talking a lot of shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, I mean, you know.
dan friesen
Maybe Alex talking some shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, yeah, I don't know.
So Alex discusses how the shooting went, and he makes up a fair amount of details.
alex jones
You know this was quarterbacked by Mary Garland.
Guaranteed, 100%.
They used a couple of cutouts to, you know, tell the guy where to be.
He was so coordinated.
He was driving around in the area, ready.
They probably drilled it a few times.
His source says, all right, go to zone, such and such.
He's got it marked on his GPS, pulls up.
There's Trump right there.
Pops out with a gun.
Secret Service starts firing at him.
We're not sure if he fired.
And the rest is history.
I mean, precision.
dan friesen
It's a fun story, but none of that's based on anything.
That's kind of just Alex writing a...
jordan holmes
Yeah, what I find fascinating about that is that if this is a Garland, a classic Garland operation, then that suggests that the reason that this is happening is because Mitch McConnell wouldn't seat him on the Supreme Court.
dan friesen
You don't think he could do false flags from the Supreme Court?
jordan holmes
I mean, well, that's, I think, the question.
dan friesen
The argument that I think is compelling here is the Attorney General position is...
A lot better situated for that.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
It is fascinating.
If this is the case, then perhaps this is a man scorned.
You stole his job, and now he's hell-bent on revenge.
dan friesen
It's a supervillain story.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And so now, if all of this is true, and we're living within this false reality, then Alex has this terrible decision to make, which is, go back in time.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And stop Mitch McConnell from stopping the Merrick Garland Supreme Court nomination.
But in the process, you lose overturning Roe v.
Wade.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
What do you do?
jordan holmes
And you probably lose the election.
dan friesen
What do you do?
jordan holmes
You save Trump's life, but you mortgage the country's future, Dan.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Or not.
In either direction.
dan friesen
In terms of like a sci-fi movie, this is an interesting premise.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's not terrible.
dan friesen
A propagandist must choose.
jordan holmes
A Sophie's Choice for the propagandist would be the death of the God King or the kingdom brought about by the death of the God King.
dan friesen
In the real world, though, Alex is just making all this stuff up.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so it's, I mean, it's just fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just a story.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I, uh, yeah.
I just don't see Merrick Garland being the mastermind behind this.
Maybe.
Maybe.
I mean, I'm making a lot of assumptions.
dan friesen
You don't know Merrick.
jordan holmes
I don't.
I don't.
I could be making a lot of assumptions.
dan friesen
So, Alex, you know, he tells these stories about how this all went down.
Precision.
It's all Garland pulling the strings and all this stuff.
And it's essential to do stuff like this because you have to be interesting for the audience.
Right.
They demand something that will grab their attention.
jordan holmes
Can't be boring.
dan friesen
And you're always trying to get those new eyeballs.
You know, those new people who are coming in.
jordan holmes
Eyeballs is money.
dan friesen
Now, unfortunately, that's not true.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
New people don't buy shit.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
alex jones
They just tried to kill your freedom.
They just attacked you.
Do you understand that?
Do you take this personal?
This is not a fucking game.
unidentified
Language.
Language.
alex jones
All right, let me do this because we're going to win.
Trump's going to be safer.
I trust in God.
God's hand's on us.
And we've got to stay on air.
Before I start the next hour, we had 40 million viewers on X of Friday's show.
It wasn't just my show.
It was the loop of all the shows.
The network feed had 30 million.
My show, you added up the other shows.
There's over 40 million views of the show.
It's Friday.
But a loop of Harrison, myself, and Owen, 30 million plus.
Plus.
And then others, 10 million.
40-plus million.
And I'm not bitching.
It's great.
And we did see some uptick in sales.
We had millions and millions on InfoWars.
But it's new listeners, folks, and they don't buy crap.
It is the original hardcore folks, you know who you are, that are supporters, that are responsible for the fact we're reaching so many people.
I salute you.
I thank you.
Great job.
dan friesen
So I don't think that uptick was very much.
jordan holmes
I mean, it makes sense.
I mean, in a simple, just business way.
Right, if he's talking about new listeners through social media direct sites, right?
Well, the products he sells are for old people who are going to bunkers and need filters and shit.
dan friesen
A lot of them are survival-based and dealing with issues of aging with false promises.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He doesn't have, like, products for the hip, young Nazi.
dan friesen
What about...
Cool shirts.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know.
Do people still buy cool shirts?
Is that a thing?
What do people buy anymore?
Protein bars?
dan friesen
Sure.
Yeah.
Alex probably sells those.
jordan holmes
I think that's what you should really hammer.
dan friesen
Colloidal silver?
jordan holmes
Yeah, see, you're not going to get the kids with colloidal silver.
That's just not happening.
dan friesen
What do you should do?
Put out an Infowars Tamagotchi?
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
What's the deal?
jordan holmes
Get a TikTok.
unidentified
Get a TikTok.
jordan holmes
Get a TikTok!
That's the oldest I've ever sounded.
unidentified
I don't know what the kids want.
dan friesen
But I think that Alex's traffic may be largely inorganic.
Or people looking in to see if there's a train wreck.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so maybe that doesn't translate to a whole lot of sales.
I think his business strategy might be a little bit flawed.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It is a little bit like occasionally walking by Old Yeller being like, oh, do we do, or not Old Yeller, Old Faithful.
Well, a little bit old yeller.
Hopefully old yeller.
dan friesen
I think it has a lot of the vibe of people who made the pivots to video and stuff unnecessarily using bad metrics.
Alex is looking at these numbers and I think that he thinks that they're real and thinks that they mean that 40 million people were all watching him and wrapped with attention.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
These are not potential customers.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex Lies, a little bit about MSNBC.
alex jones
MSNBC on second assassination, Trump.
MSNBC on second assassination attempt.
Trump had it coming.
These people, man.
jordan holmes
Crazy.
alex jones
They're literally out to get us.
They want to cut our son's penises off.
And they brainwash them in public schools from Texas to New York, from Colorado to California.
You think you're in a red state, but your cities are blue.
Most cases.
dan friesen
Okay, man, that was out of nowhere.
But that headline Alex is reading isn't something that was posted on MSNBC.
That headline that says that Trump had it coming is from Infowars, which is how one of Alex's employees characterized what people on MSNBC said.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
They never said that Trump had it coming.
They said that he's not going to de-escalate his public rhetoric and that he has a very serious propensity towards violent language.
That's what they were talking about.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
The aftermath of the last assassination attempt.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They thought, everyone kind of thought, like, maybe he'll cool out, maybe take the temperature down a little bit.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And he didn't.
jordan holmes
No, they did, I mean, you know, I understand why you would characterize what they said as being shortened down to he had it coming, but I would argue that it's more like a, it takes two to tango scenario.
Not necessarily a, hey, you do this, you're gonna get, you know, talk shit, get hit situation.
I think it's a different conversation.
dan friesen
I think that, you know, he had it coming.
As being Alex's Infowars headline about this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I think that it's on the far end of how people write headlines.
And that's not always the case for Alex.
A lot of times it is completely out of whole cloth.
He's misrepresenting what they said, but a lot of headlines are kind of misrepresentative of the content of an article.
But he had it coming after the former president Has a theoretical assassination attempt.
It's a pretty crazy thing to put on somebody.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so for him to claim that MSNBC is saying that, I think it's too far.
jordan holmes
It's probably a lot.
It's probably a lot.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex starts ranting here about how the shooter knew exactly where to go, and then he starts swearing.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think the evidence would...
See, the thing about knowing exactly where to go is that after the fact...
You can prove that the shooter did not know exactly where to go.
dan friesen
You know what?
I think I agree and disagree with you.
And there's a very obvious fucking reason.
But I'll let Alex talk about how it's all so suspicious.
And then he starts swearing, and then he gets mad at you if you're judging him for swearing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
alex jones
How big is Trump's golf course in Mar-a-Lago?
How many acres is Trump's golf course in Mar-a-Lago?
What?
400?
500?
600?
Probably 1,000?
I don't know.
And so a guy, imagine you're hunting a buck, and there's woods all over the place.
It's heavily wooded.
I'd say half the golf course is woods, and there's roads around it.
He knows right where to pop up, right where the buck is, right on the hole he wants.
Come on, people.
You're hunting on 500 acres, and there's one buck, and you just pull your car up and just get out, and the buck's right where you come out.
Come on, people.
jordan holmes
Do Bucks usually golf?
alex jones
That's why folks tune into this show, because I come up with the angles other people don't, and I don't want to be the one coming up with the angles.
It's so frustrating.
I mean, that's what the Secret Service and the local police should be asking and then the FBI is how the hell did this guy know right where to pop up?
Okay, well, it's 7,326 yards of play space.
Look up this.
How many square miles is the West Palm Beach Golf Club?
That's what I want to know.
When I said 500 acres, it's going to be thousands.
Let me make a guess.
It's a very expensive area, so I bet it's smaller than that.
I bet it's 1,000 acres.
unidentified
What do we do?
alex jones
But it doesn't matter.
The point is it's big.
And if you think that guy just parked his car, went through woods, you can't even see the golf course there, it's designed like that, and then pops out and just perfectly is about to kill Trump, you need to have your head examined.
I'm so angry I can barely do the show right now, I don't want to start cussing.
But I know what it's going to be like if they kill Trump.
I mean, you know, my ass is on the line, so is yours, but mine a lot faster.
I mean, our lives are in the...
I'm not taking the Lord's name in vain.
I apologize.
jordan holmes
Is that how God works?
alex jones
I want God to damn these people.
I mean that.
I'm praying for God to damn these people to hell.
I grew up Baptist.
You ever say that you're taking God's name in vain?
No, I'm not taking it in vain.
I mean it.
I want God to damn these people.
It doesn't matter.
I'm not a preacher or a priest, so God knows my heart and you don't.
And what comes out of my mouth comes out when I want to say it.
I am beyond pissed off right now.
Oh, boy.
Okay, I'm under control.
It's only 200 acres, so I guess that it's still big.
dan friesen
Still big.
Still big.
Now, that's obviously unintentional, but amazing timing.
jordan holmes
That's an amazing punch.
That is...
Fucking crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Spinning his wheels entirely, and we have to put a button on the how big is...
jordan holmes
God fucking dick!
The point is it's big!
God fucking...
You know what?
People don't even like it when they say...
I'm not saying they're like...
200 yards, huh?
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Also, a fifth of the size that Alex...
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Is that...
Big?
I don't know.
dan friesen
It's big enough.
jordan holmes
It's too big!
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what it is.
dan friesen
So all this that Alex is doing here is a really fun imagination exercise, but what if we added in a couple more details?
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
So you're a hunter that's trying to find a single buck in a couple hundred yards, and that's kind of like a needle in a haystack.
But what if that buck was playing a game that required he follow a single path through those couple hundred yards?
And what if that game involved going to specific starting and You'd know that the buck was gonna get to the T at hole 5, for example, eventually.
Like, if they started playing the game.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
You wouldn't need luck or a magical ability to find the buck.
It would come to you by virtue of how the game the buck was playing works.
And Alex keeps saying, like, oh, he just got out of his car and was magically right where he needed to be.
unidentified
What if I told you that he camped out for 12 hours beforehand?
jack posobiec
Well...
dan friesen
He didn't just get out of his car and magically was at the right spot?
jordan holmes
Well, you know, I mean, 12 hours...
I mean, it's not a new iPhone, but, you know, 12 hours is enough.
dan friesen
If you know...
That one comes before two, before three, before four, and holes are numbered, and it's on a golf course.
You can't move the golf course.
You know where the things are.
You could just maybe camp out somewhere for 12 hours, knowing that someone was eventually going to be at a certain point.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, it reminds me of the opening scene on Ocean's Eleven, right?
Whenever they're stealing the blueprints to the Bellagio.
Or whatever.
You know, and they've got that whole, they do the whole, they're cool thing.
And how important it is to have the blueprints of the Bellagio in order to pull off this heist.
And it's like, well, I mean, now you could just Google Maps it.
And now you have the whole, yeah, now you can pull it off.
It's not hard.
You know the whole terrain.
dan friesen
Or you could interview a robot.
unidentified
Or you could find a GeoGuessr.
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Now we're talking.
dan friesen
Here's two things that I thought of with the GeoGuessr.
One that I just thought of and one that I thought of earlier.
The one that I just thought of was show them the inside of a safe or something like that.
Like, where is this?
See how good they really are.
And the second thing that I was thinking of while I was watching it is, like, give them a fucking fake location.
See what happens then.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
What would happen?
jordan holmes
I mean, are you trying to trick them?
dan friesen
Would they make an educated guess about a fake location?
jordan holmes
Oh, or would they be like the person who's like, Steve died last year, otherwise I would answer your obvious trick question.
dan friesen
Yeah, would they be able to tell it was fake?
I don't think they would, but it would be interesting to see how they rationalized what their guess was.
jordan holmes
What if they know Earth so well they know when not Earth?
dan friesen
It's impossible.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know.
dan friesen
No, there's no way.
So I get that Alex thinks that he's come up with some mind-blowing angle on the shooting, but it's just dumb.
That's why he needs to oversell it with this dramatic, swear-filled display.
He's overcompensating for how stupid this is.
Just the fact that it was a golf course.
Means that it's not finding a buck within a wooded area.
So dumb.
jordan holmes
I remember playing Assassin's Creed Revelations, the third in the Ezio trilogy.
And you would do the eagle eye vision, and then it would give you the exact track that the guards would take.
You'd have like, oh, well, if I go over here and wait, then the guard will come to me.
I know this for a fact because I see the track.
It is impossible for the guard not to come to me.
dan friesen
Where did you manage to magically figure out where it was going to be?
jordan holmes
I pressed, I believe it was triangle.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
And then here we are.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's, I mean, it's clearly an inside job.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that does make sense.
dan friesen
So Alex has a surprise guest that comes on.
This is the future secretary of retribution.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Ivan Raiklin.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And he is very dumb.
ivan raiklin
It's very disingenuous to say that it is yet another mistake.
Like Jack Dorsey says when he censors folks, it's a mistake.
unidentified
The Secret Service say it's a mistake.
ivan raiklin
No, at this point in time, it needs to be presumed that it was an inside job.
unidentified
And then it needs to be disproven that it was an inside job.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
I agree.
What are your other observations?
dan friesen
Oh, wow, that's really cool.
I like the idea of some lunatic who thinks that he's going to be a Secretary of Retribution demanding people prove that they're innocent.
Guilty until proven instant.
False flag until proven not.
This is so, I mean, it's comical levels of stupid.
jordan holmes
I'm going to tell you, I respect that this is not the first time anybody's had this idea.
And perhaps we should think about the Spanish Inquisition for just a little bit.
Like, we should assume murdering you is the right choice until you prove I shouldn't kill you.
dan friesen
Well, I really would love to get Ivan Raiklin in a room.
And workshop how we're going to deal with the witch problem.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
dan friesen
You know?
jordan holmes
We're going to have to assume that the only way to prove they are not witches is if they float when they drown.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Otherwise, you'll never know.
dan friesen
Come on, Raiklin, get on it.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ, man.
dan friesen
So, another guest is Jack Posobiec.
Sure.
jordan holmes
Illuminary.
dan friesen
Wow, this guy is not subtle.
jack posobiec
This was a Trump assassination attempt, the second one we've seen in two months, almost two months exactly to the day.
And what we are now witnessing, and people know that I've got the book coming out about the first one.
I've just got off the phone, by the way, with my publisher just a few minutes ago.
Ryan Routh will be included in Bulletproof.
Orderbulletproof.com.
Ryan Routh included all of the information that we collect on him, and we're collecting a lot.
dan friesen
Don't worry.
Sorry, whatever the information may be, we're going to stop the presses on this hot book in order to capitalize on this shooting.
jordan holmes
That is, that is like...
dan friesen
That's cynical.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know if it gets more just pure capitalism.
dan friesen
It's dark.
jordan holmes
You know?
That is, that is like finding out, that is like at the end of Trading Places when they're like, oh, it was a bet for a dollar.
And you're like, oh, you motherfuckers are crazy.
That is that crazy.
dan friesen
I wonder if he thinks that, like, ah, people will hear this and be like, God, he's a completist.
This is a professional who wouldn't let this book come to market without getting that little detail in there.
jordan holmes
It's about giving us value.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
We don't want to have to buy another book.
dan friesen
I wonder if he actually thinks that's how it's coming across.
Maybe it does to some people, but it seems very transparent to me.
jordan holmes
Trying to make money off of an assassination attempt.
dan friesen
Maybe we can get a little bit more if we include this part in this.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it also makes me think, like, man, it must be easy for you to publish your books.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So Posobiec's got some information.
It turns out that this shooter, potential shooter, liked to eat a Comet ping pong pizza.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
That's not his information.
But I just wanted to remind everyone that...
Jack Posobiec almost left in tears from Common People.
jordan holmes
He was so scary!
jack posobiec
No, look, we know that Ukraine has been a nexus for CIA activity.
We know that the CIA was directly training, and even the New York Times has reported the CIA was directly training Ukrainian death squads, directly training their individuals that were over.
And, of course, we also know that the New York Times and others have reported that these guys were heavily involved in foreign fighter flows.
Ryan Rath was the head of the International Volunteer Center in Ukraine.
That's, quote, Look, this was not aid.
This was not humanitarian.
This was combat.
This was going into combat, and we're starting to see pictures of him, and we're starting to see things come out that basically it looks as though this guy wasn't just there for fun, that this guy was actively involved in combat operations in Ukraine.
dan friesen
So this guy did go to Ukraine to volunteer to fight, but he was turned down.
According to the Washington Post, after this, he, quote, set up a tent in Kiev's central Independence Square and spent several weeks camped there before the structure was removed by police.
He's not the head of some volunteer fighter organization in Ukraine.
He was a guy who lost his mind a little bit and tried to go fight in Ukraine, was rejected, and then hung out there in a tent for a little while before coming back to the United States.
There's no evidence that he got some kind of special Ukrainian CIA training while he was there, but there's folks like Jack are pretty desperate to fill in the blanks in these narratives.
So you just make these kind of leaps.
Newsweek did a story about this.
Apparently, the shooter claimed that he'd helped recruit for the International Legion for the Defense of Ukraine.
who have flatly denied that bullshit.
Evelyn Aschenbrenner, who's been with them since 2022, told Newsweek that she received contacts from the alleged shooter that were unwelcome.
He, quote, messaged Aschenbrenner between March 2022 and March 2024, sending details of potential recruits, including a list of some 6,000 Afghani citizens.
He would then become hostile and manipulative when told to refrain from doing so.
Quote, he sent me a PDF of like 6,000 Afghani citizens.
They can't legally enter Europe.
He was combative.
He was argumentative.
He refused to understand basic army policy, Ashen Brenner said.
In some interviews, the alleged shooter has misrepresented himself as being involved with groups like the International Legion and as the head of the International Volunteer Center, but this seems to have no basis in reality.
Evidence seems to have been also produced that seems to paint the picture that this was just kind of a crazy dude.
And, you know, a lot of it was expressed around support of Ukraine.
But the extent to which they're taking a lot of this seriously when there's no evidence that he actually was involved in recruitment or in any fighting or training, it's just kind of desperate.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
It makes you go back.
jordan holmes
I guess this is a very specific reference, but there were quite a few writers and authors who talked glowingly about the French Foreign Legion.
And now I think they may have been full of shit.
dan friesen
So, Jack Posobiec believes that Trump needs his own army.
And why not get Eric Prince to build him an army?
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Because there's traitors within.
jordan holmes
What kind?
jack posobiec
I think a lot of people have been saying this over and over.
He's got to call in Eric Prince.
He's got to call in Eric Prince or someone to run private security for him, to someone to control not just the venues, but at all times, at all times, because clearly what's going on has been penetrated multiple times now.
Whatever it is right now is not good enough.
Number one, of course, needs presidential level security, something the Biden White House continues to decline, continues to refuse to give full presidential security to Donald Trump.
dan friesen
It's so cool.
This is the kind of talk that definitely doesn't have a very specific vibe in history.
You know, get Trump down in the bunker.
Get him a private army.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Good stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so far we've invented castles and warlords.
We're moving towards the future, baby!
dan friesen
Yeah, this feels chill as hell.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Also, these people need to grow the fuck up.
Trump doesn't have presidential-level security because he's not the president.
I can't even count the number of times that these people and their entire grievance narratives have been based on how they think that some group or another is demanding special treatment.
But now this is what they insist on.
Maybe Trump does need more security.
Maybe that's the case.
I'll believe that.
But he's not getting treated like the president because he's not the president.
And what's being done here is Jack is insisting that we partake in his fiction.
For him, Trump still is the president, so he's entitled to presidential security details.
He's not getting this, which means that the people in power are withholding this thing that he's entitled to him because they want him to be killed.
I'm perfectly happy to engage with the premise that Trump may need more security.
But if you're trying to sell it to me as, like, he should be treated like the president, that's a non-starter.
He's not the president.
Fuck off.
You know?
And that's the game that Jack wants me to engage with, and I won't engage with that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I mean, I don't know what the phrase more security even means in this regard.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, I understand the idea of like, oh, well, he needs more security.
But in terms of people, you can only, I mean, you can only fit so many people in any given space.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
So many people can only look at so much space at any given point in time.
You're literally talking about, just put him in a bunker.
Put him in a fucking bubble.
And that's it!
dan friesen
You remember Hands Across America?
Do that with guns outside everywhere he is.
jordan holmes
Yes, if that's what you need, if you need like a little perfect bubble of marble to encase him in, I'll tell you what, Han Solo spent some safe, safe time in carbonite.
You know, I say we do that.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't believe there will be a point at which they...
Would ever say, oh, this is an appropriate level of security that's being provided.
I don't think that that exists.
But, at the same time, I don't think that it's unfair to say that Trump is behaving in ways that put much more risk to himself.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And maybe the amount of security that he has is insufficient to deal with the way that he behaves.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I'm talking myself into this.
Maybe here's what we do.
Here's what we do.
We get rid of this whole way we're doing things now.
Terrible.
Both candidates, or all the candidates, write out like, oh, if I were to become president, this is what I'd do.
Then we freeze all of them in carbonite.
Everybody votes.
Whichever carbonite wins gets to be put in the White House.
And then we just do what's on the list.
dan friesen
Or put them and their cabinets in a Big Brother house.
jordan holmes
Everybody else goes in the bunker.
dan friesen
So we got the Secretary of Retribution, Ivan Raiklin, has popped in.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Dumb, ding-dong, Jack Posobiec.
unidentified
It's so pizza.
dan friesen
Has popped in.
And now we get one of Alex's new best buddies, Nick Sortor.
jordan holmes
Nick Sortor.
dan friesen
Nick Sortor is a guy who runs a Twitter space that's apparently fairly popular, like a Twitter talk show.
unidentified
So old.
dan friesen
He's also very dumb.
And he thinks that Trump should get more security.
Fine.
jordan holmes
Sure.
nick sortor
And we heard the Secret Service earlier say during the press conference that the reason they didn't protect and have a perimeter around the entire golf course is because he's not the president of the United States.
Now, I'm going to make this point right here, and I'm opening this up to anybody that wants to argue with me for it.
Donald Trump is a much bigger target than Joe Biden is.
jordan holmes
Nobody cares about Joe Biden.
Nobody cares to go.
unidentified
If they take out Joe Biden...
jordan holmes
He's not running the country anyway.
Somebody else is running the country.
They get Kamala Harris, which is controlled by exactly the same people.
alex jones
Let me just interrupt you.
Let me interrupt you and just say you're totally right.
dan friesen
Totally right.
So the argument is that because Trump is more of a target, more public resources should be expended protecting him, even though that represents an unfair distribution of taxpayer funds.
I don't think that these guys understand the implications of the arguments they're making.
Because it's a pretty short walk from this kind of thinking to universal housing or medical coverage.
It's pretty hard to demand that the government provide extra security to this guy while saying that the government has no responsibility to protect its citizens' well-being in areas like housing and food insecurity.
The image is even harder to square because Trump is a fucking billionaire and he should have no problem paying for this additional security himself.
The perspective that Alex and Nick have is incoherent.
And on top of that, they think that the Secret Service are the ones who organized and let the shootings happen.
They shouldn't be demanding more protection from the same entity that's trying to kill him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, it all is, like...
It's main character disease.
It is like, oh, these are the characters in the story.
So these are the only people that I have to be concerned with.
So I don't actually have to step back and think, oh, does what I'm saying apply to...
People who are not main characters in the story.
And because they don't exist.
The people, quote unquote, do not exist in these conversations.
Right?
Who cares?
Who cares why you would need security?
This guy is a bigger target than you, so he needs more security.
That makes sense.
dan friesen
Oh, so we distribute based on who has a need?
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, no.
Because he needs it because we all need it.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
See, because we need...
So, like, I understand that you might need security.
So, like, oh, you're not large, and there are large people nearby who can beat you up and take your stuff.
I understand you might need security, but he's a bigger target, and if he's secure, then you're secure.
Now, admittedly, he won't do anything about those large people who are going to beat you up and steal your stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think, you know, I think once you go down this road too much, it's a matter of perspective.
And I think it's just a value judgment.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then you start choosing who's valuable and who's not.
dan friesen
And I think they have.
jordan holmes
And there we go!
Nazis!
dan friesen
So Nick is kind of upset that he can't bring water into Trump rallies.
Sure.
nick sortor
They still didn't give any presidential-level detail that, honestly, that he deserves.
Like I said, this guy is a lot more of a target than Joe Biden is.
I go to Trump rallies all around the country at this point, and they still have not banned rangefinders.
You can still bring a rangefinder into a Trump rally, but you can't bring a water bottle with a lid on it.
You have to go inside, and you can buy a water bottle, but you have to take the lid off and everything.
jordan holmes
People aren't serious.
unidentified
So at a very minimum, Alex, they're complicit.
dan friesen
It's kind of sad to hear this kind of thing from Nick.
Like, rangefinders aren't illegal to carry, and they aren't only used in the context of shooting.
Like, they have applications in photography and shit like that.
Plus, shouldn't they think that Trump banning rangefinders at his rally would be an attack on the Second Amendment?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, these people make no sense.
jordan holmes
Also, shouldn't they be like...
Oh, who needs a rangefinder?
That's not the assassin that I'm scared of, right?
I don't know what these...
dan friesen
I guess there could be some bravado.
jordan holmes
What's the consistency here?
dan friesen
Also, a lot of concerts and events don't let you bring in outside drinks.
They want to sell you drinks while you're a captive audience.
Or at very least, they don't want people sneaking in alcohol.
I don't understand what Nick's complaint is here.
jordan holmes
It's very obvious.
dan friesen
This is very dumb.
jordan holmes
Here's middle ground, alright?
I also want to get rid of the TSA.
So let's sidestep this whole Trump issue, and we just deal with, you can bring water on planes now.
See?
Problem solved.
dan friesen
Okay.
I don't think, I mean, look, obviously I think Nick might join you in that, but I don't think it would affect his feelings about Trump rallies.
jordan holmes
We need to ignore those.
He shouldn't be going to Trump rallies.
dan friesen
No range finders and let me have my fucking water.
jordan holmes
Done.
dan friesen
Whatever.
jordan holmes
Deal made.
I don't care.
I'll spit in my hand and shake it.
dan friesen
So Alex believes that he's proven that the shooter was CIA, Ukrainian.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
All this stuff.
Which he has not.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But then Harrison pops in with something that's very dumb.
alex jones
Bottom line, Trump's would-be assassin is now a confirmed CIA-Ukraine war foreign legion cutout who knew right when to drop in at an unannounced event that nobody knew Trump was going to be there.
And that's what they're saying Mangino is saying, and I'll go with Sartor.
He's a great source.
We'll go back to Sartor in a minute and other speakers, but right now, let's go to Harrison Smith.
Harrison.
harrison smith
Yeah, no, I think you're exactly right to question, you know, how this guy knew where to go, how he knew exactly where to be.
Tons of questions swirling about this.
But you know what?
Forget the Ukraine thing.
Forget the Russian thing.
To me, this is about the stochastic terror of the left.
This is about radicalized.
Democrats.
dan friesen
So Alex has proved literally none of that stuff that he says, but man, it sounds like he's having fun.
I'm glad for him there.
Also, Harrison, he needs to learn the word stochastic, and then he needs to learn how much Alex doesn't believe in theories about stochastic terrorism.
It's critically important for him to not believe that violent rhetoric being deployed can directly result in an increased likelihood of real-world violence being committed, because if Alex does accept that premise, then he should call for his own.
Infowars as an institution really only makes sense if you reject the concept of stochastic terrorism, and this is a really good example of how Harrison doesn't really get the larger game that he's supposed to be playing with Alex.
Accusing the left of stochastic terrorism feels really good right now, in the moment, and it probably feels smart, like he's using big words and heady concepts, but then you have to kind of pretend that...
Everything would be fine if the left just mumbled politically after they said it.
And you look stupid.
You look really fucking stupid.
Smash cut to Alex pornographically describing stomping people's guts out and all this shit.
Harrison's a fucking idiot.
jordan holmes
No, there's tons of like, I know you are, but what am I's whenever you are at the very least nominally another organization.
But you are essentially...
The stochastic terrorism example.
dan friesen
Yeah, and your world relies on doing it and pretending it doesn't exist.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can't call the kettle black because it's you.
Like, you embody it.
dan friesen
It's one thing to have some sort of hypocrisy about things and events and shit like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, because it's like, if I was going to an encyclopedia that was like, explain stochastic terrorism, because I've just heard Harrison Smith say stochastic terrorism, it would be like, well, on Infowars, here's stochastic, and it's the example, it's like such a perfect example.
dan friesen
Yeah, once you accept this premise that this is a thing, it now becomes incumbent upon you to explain.
And why that is not why you have a job.
jordan holmes
Yes.
It just must not exist for you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And that's kind of the way that I think Alex deals with it a lot of the time.
unidentified
That's the only way.
dan friesen
This is really glaring.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Harrison also always...
Says it's stochatic.
jordan holmes
Harrison is one of those classic, like, man, he thinks he's smart, guys.
dan friesen
And he's a dweeb.
And he's weak.
He's fucking weak.
And Alex smells weakness on him in this next clip and has to try and save the ship.
harrison smith
But I'm a little bit annoyed that Trump is joking about this.
And again, you know, this is Trump.
We know who he is.
We know how he reacts.
I don't want to throw shade at the guy when he survives his second assassination attempt in as many months.
But when he's going, you know, well, I wish I could have finished the hole.
I was, you know, I was too under par.
It's like, dude, there are Trump supporters being beaten in the streets.
They're trying to kill you.
He's got to take this seriously.
And it's not even that I think he's handling it incorrectly.
It's almost like he doesn't get it.
It's almost like he doesn't understand.
They're trying to kill him.
He's not taking it seriously, and not even for his own sake, but I think just for the sake of his supporters and the violence and rhetoric and demonization that we're subjected to.
You know, you've got people like...
alex jones
Well, that's why the deep state hates Trump, because I've been around Trump only a few times, talked to him on the phone a lot.
The presence he has is intimidating, and I don't get intimidated either.
He's like, whoa, his wife too.
And he's just so confident and thinks he's invincible.
That these people are all a bunch of evil, scared rats.
They just freak out around it.
They don't want to support strength.
They get threatened by it, you understand?
So, I think Trump...
I mean, Roger told me this many, like, eight years ago.
They said Trump is fatalistic.
In that he just doesn't...
It's...
I mean, look, he's behind glass now at the rallies.
dan friesen
Yeah, cool.
That's strong.
So, Harrison's point that he's making is, what about me?
His point is, like, okay, first of all, like, Trump...
If he got shot on a golf course, if they're shooting at him and he's like, I didn't get to finish my hole, that's so strong.
That's cool.
That's acting like, I don't give a shit.
jordan holmes
That's what you should say.
dan friesen
Exactly.
And Harrison is reacting to that like, but me!
My feelings!
I'm under attack!
Trump, why do you validate my feelings?
Why do you have to act so strong?
It makes me feel weak.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex can smell that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he responds by talking about how strong Trump is.
jordan holmes
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Man.
dan friesen
He's just a fucking wiener.
jordan holmes
How is he still around?
It's almost tokenistic at this point.
dan friesen
Argument that I have.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
There's no one else.
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
There aren't other applicants.
jordan holmes
That is not an argument.
Argument accepted, argument over.
dan friesen
I don't think that there's a lot of people who it's very appealing for them to be third banana in pro wars.
Actually, fourth if you count Chase.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, Chase...
Chase did not even try.
He just showed up one day and he was like, you're number three now.
That's how bad Harrison is on the depth chart.
dan friesen
It's rough to watch.
jordan holmes
It is!
dan friesen
You feel bad for the guy, and especially because he's calling in on the Twitter space.
jordan holmes
I know!
dan friesen
He doesn't even have to be there.
jordan holmes
What are you doing?
Go to the office!
I don't know what to do.
dan friesen
So we get some callers on Twitter, and this person, this is a crazy point that they make.
col ghannon burton
I'm asking everybody out there to pray for this one thing, that there's some group of people inside of the DOJ because they have the actual power to get and take down the traitors that are in Department of Homeland Security and that are in the State Department and are in the CIA and that they act, that they take down somebody like a Blinken or a Mayorkas.
The signal is sent that we're serious people and we've got control of our political system again, and we're going to have a free and fair election.
unidentified
And if those people don't stand up, we will be destroyed.
dan friesen
In case it's not clear, he's saying that we need to send a message to Putin.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So basically what he's saying is, I hope there's some people within the DOJ who are strong enough to overthrow the government as a message to Putin that we're cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Don't bomb us, Putin, please, because we've overthrown our government.
Wow.
jordan holmes
I really like the idea of just overthrowing a department as though it's not part of the whole, like, hey, hey, listen, we're never going to get the whole government.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But the DOJ is ours.
unidentified
The DOJ.
jordan holmes
Because we've got Blinken in a hole.
dan friesen
We need somebody at the DOJ to take over the Secretary of State's department as a message to Putin that we're chill.
jordan holmes
Wait, hold on.
unidentified
What?
What?
dan friesen
This is a conversation that belongs on Twitter.
unidentified
Who is giving him this message?
dan friesen
He'll get it.
He'll see.
jordan holmes
He'll just get it?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay?
dan friesen
Yeah.
No.
Any world leader would understand that if you arrest the Secretary of State, that means that you're willing to play ball.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
No, I get it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Sure.
That's what I would assume.
dan friesen
Cool.
So Alex hasn't proven shit about this shooter at the golf course.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
But he sort of takes a little bit of a victory lap.
alex jones
All right, this is breaking.
Of course, it broke over an hour ago here with Jack Posobiec on the show.
He broke it before the name was even released, that it was a Ukrainian foreign legion guy from the U.S. Now the New York Post, AP, they're all reporting would-be Trump assassin ID'd as Ryan Roth, 58 of Hawaii.
And he is part of a CIA foreign legion and then magically knew when to drop in when it was totally unannounced where Trump was going to be.
That's now confirmed and was very close to him, so he had help.
This is the type of libtard, loony-toon nutjobs that wants to kill Trump because he doesn't want World War III.
You have Sean Penn, a year and a half ago, saying nuclear war is good, let's have one with Russia.
I mean, these are lunatic, maniac, crazy people.
I just can't even believe it.
dan friesen
You shouldn't.
Because you're just making it up.
jordan holmes
I absolutely cannot believe it.
That is an unbelievable story.
dan friesen
Yeah, pretty much all of that is completely disconnected from reality.
jordan holmes
Thoroughly unbelievable.
dan friesen
Yeah, but we've seen over the course of this episode the way that each of those details kind of gets built in.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And how they're all really dumb.
Yeah.
But it comes together to a cohesive whole that he's now pretending the AP is reporting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is odd because it's like...
It's like watching somebody buy a puzzle, like a 500-piece puzzle, and then being like, oh, this puzzle is really fucking hard.
And then they throw that puzzle on the ground.
And then they just grab a bunch of pieces and then they try and fit those together and like, ah, this is never going to work.
So then they just get a piece of paper and cut it into four squares and then tape it together wrong somehow.
dan friesen
Ta-da!
jordan holmes
That is what we are looking at.
Yes.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, a little bit later in the show, Nick Sartor is talking, and...
jordan holmes
That's a great last name.
dan friesen
Especially when you pronounce it like Alex.
jordan holmes
Sartor!
dan friesen
Sartor.
He's talking, and he's like, you know, Alex, a lot of people have been woken up because of you, and I'm not just saying that.
I got people on the ground, they're talking to people, they're like, oh, they love you, Alex.
jordan holmes
Always on the ground.
dan friesen
And then Chase comes in, and he's like, um, Alex is gone, he's working on other stuff.
So Alex has just left at some point.
So I did turn it off after that deflationary moment.
jordan holmes
That's the good stuff.
dan friesen
But we have one more call here.
And this person, I feel like I resent them more because towards the end of it, they reveal that they live in Europe.
And that, I feel like...
jordan holmes
Doesn't count.
dan friesen
It bothers me.
naomi seibt
Well, I just want to point out again, because it was mentioned before, how crucial it is that we recognize...
unidentified
Trump is unique and he's irreplaceable.
And that's why if something...
naomi seibt
I mean, of course, we don't hope for an attack like this to happen on Kamala Harris either.
But if it happened, she would be easily replaceable, just like Joe Biden was replaceable.
unidentified
But Trump...
Trump is completely irreplaceable.
naomi seibt
And each time something like this happens, we have to realize that there is nobody else in the Republican Party who could replace Trump simply because he is not only shifting the Overton window towards a more right-wing narrative or something.
unidentified
No, he's allowing us freedom of the people.
naomi seibt
He is the man of the people, and that's why he is stepping out of this entire establishment.
unidentified
That's why he's such a threat to the entire system.
naomi seibt
And Kamala Harris came up with a statement, apparently saying that she condemns the violence or something like violence has no place in America.
unidentified
Well, isn't that fucking ironic?
Sorry for swearing, but she is the one letting in the illegal immigrants.
And we have seen not just in Europe, but also now in America to what kind of crime that Oh boy.
dan friesen
So, yeah.
Kamala Harris supports violence because she is fine with...
Immigrants.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Go fuck yourself.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
But also, like, at the beginning, the whole thing about Trump being irreplaceable and shit, like, I get it.
And I do think that in terms of, like, you're going to have a hard time finding a charismatic leader at this point.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You guys have committed a little bit far in this direction.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But this hits me the same way that hearing someone like Tucker say that the hopes of half of the country rest with this one person.
Without him, they have nothing.
I think lowly of Trump supporters, but I don't think as badly as this.
Without you, we've got nothing.
You're irreplaceable.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's so many problems with that in terms of, like, if you just want to be an asshole about them, just be like, well, strategically, that's your fault.
That's not your enemy or opponent's fault.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is your fault.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
So you should deal with that as though you have made a mistake.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You have overcommitted in this direction, and that is a big blunder.
jordan holmes
Totally.
But furthermore, if you just want to go with the...
General principle of representative government.
I understand that we care about these people because they are people.
But at the same time, the point is, everyone is replaceable.
Every single person could be replaced at any moment because we govern ourselves.
dan friesen
Within representativeness.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the idea.
The problem with everybody in the government being murdered right away is the chaos of having to replace everybody in the government.
Not like, oh, no one will ever be able to do these jobs!
dan friesen
Yeah.
The problem is your relationship with Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You are doing this.
jordan holmes
It is all your fault.
dan friesen
And, you know, I think that you can take it.
On that level, but you can also look at it on a human level.
And it is a real bummer that there is that much codependency between them and Trump.
Like, I really wish that what I could do is get them to listen to that Beyonce song.
You must not know about me.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I could find another you in a minute.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Get to that place with Trump.
unidentified
The GOP needs to just...
dan friesen
Get that Beyonce energy.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
Because it's sad.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Sad to see.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Brutal.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Brutal.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
I don't know what it's like.
So when I was getting my tattoo done, there was a guy who was very much of the, like, well, how would I describe him?
The guy who's got a small business that you don't know if it is or isn't successful, but he's got his business name on his truck.
That kind of guy.
And he was getting a tattoo.
And he was very much of the, like, here's why I supported Trump and all this stuff and what Trump does and all these things.
And it's like, this has nothing to do with Trump at all.
Like, they have just got a complete...
I don't even know if they've...
I think it's even transcended the concept of Trump or what Trump is or believes.
And it is a purely religious, like, Trump means the good things that I want to happen.
You know, like he's not related to any concept of like Trump has said he would do this or this is something Trump has done or this is something that Trump wants to do at all.
It's just like, well...
Yeah.
with, I must believe that Trump will provide them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
And I think enough time with enough messaging along the lines of that shit that Tucker says, stuff like, without him, they have nothing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
It's...
dan friesen
Not unimaginable that some people internalize that.
jordan holmes
I mean, but they internalize it in a weird way where it doesn't require him.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
You should have to have something if not having it is meaningful.
dan friesen
Well, I know that, you know, as we look at the presidential ticket, Trump is not replaceable by Vance.
That is for sure.
jordan holmes
Of all the, like, shit, guys, this is my first day there could ever be, it would be J.D. Vance trying to then run a presidential election.
dan friesen
I would say that if Vance knows what's up, he will not make Vivek his running mate if Trump dies, because his days will be numbered.
Somehow, through palace coup, Vivek is going to become president.
jordan holmes
It would be the only thing that makes sense.
There's no way that just regular, you know, that's kind of the problem with where we're at, is that it feels like there's no way there's just going to be a regular-ass Democratic outcome.
Just like regular-ass, like, oh, we vote, and the thing happens.
dan friesen
You're holding on to your Nikki Haley could become president.
I'm holding on to my vivac.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
Why not?
dan friesen
So anyway, we'll be back with another episode.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Hey, D, we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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