#963: September 11, 2024
In this installment, Dan and Jordan take in Alex celebrating the anniversary of 9/11 by discussing the debate between Trump and Harris, and announcing that he's raffling off a truck.
Sept. 13, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
01:27:12
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Need money. | ||
| Andy and Kansas. | ||
| Andy and Kansas. | ||
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Stop it. | |
| Andy and Kansas. | ||
| Andy and Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your word. | ||
|
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Knowledge fight. | |
| Not knowledgefight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| My bright spot today is I finished the first season of Poker Face, and that's great. | ||
| We've talked about this a little bit on the show. | ||
| I watched Glass Onion and Knives Out. | ||
| I think I might be a Rian Johnson guy. | ||
| I don't know anything about him except these two movies and this show. | ||
| I'm into it. | ||
| I'm excited. | ||
| I dig these products. | ||
| I'm excited because you're eventually on... | ||
| Here's what I'm excited for. | ||
| You're on a pathway that leads you to being on a couch next to me watching The Last Jedi, and it's going to be great. | ||
| I think I've seen it. | ||
| That's... | ||
| I didn't say, oh, for the first time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think I've seen all the Star Wars movies. | ||
| I think. | ||
| I know that I've seen all of the old ones. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Which includes the prequels. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because now we're all old. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But I think I've seen the last three, too. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Also. | ||
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All right. | |
| Not three, too. | ||
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Also. | |
| Right. | ||
| But this was before you found out you were a Rian Johnson guy. | ||
| True. | ||
| True. | ||
| Before I've been introduced to Benoit Blanc. | ||
| Yeah, now you know about the Blanc. | ||
| Now you need to know about the Star Wars. | ||
| Is Daniel Craig somewhere in that Star Wars movie? | ||
| That's what I'm asking you. | ||
| I don't actually, I actually don't know. | ||
| That might be one of those things where if you watch behind the scenes, they're like, Daniel Craig wanted to be on the set for one day. | ||
| He's hiding in the background. | ||
| There's a stormtrooper smoking a cigar. | ||
| If he was one of the red stormtroopers, that'd be fucking dope. | ||
| Yeah, but I just really like, you know, I like a mystery show. | ||
| I like that whole aesthetic. | ||
| Natasha Lyonne's great. | ||
| She's great. | ||
| It's a lot of fun. | ||
| Without any spoilers, I just thought it was very satisfying. | ||
| Also, just the arc of the season. | ||
| Great! | ||
| It's great. | ||
| How about you? | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot is tomorrow. | ||
| I'm getting my first appointment with my tattoo. | ||
| Getting my leg done. | ||
| Whole bottom, you know, knee down. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Getting my leg done. | ||
| I'm very excited. | ||
| I've always been a huge fan of the old ink wash paintings from, you know, Sean Shreve because my Mandarin's great. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so I was thinking about that. | ||
| I was thinking about one of my favorite poets. | ||
| Han Shan. | ||
| I was thinking about mountains, essentially, is what I'm trying to say. | ||
| I was just focused on mountains for a while. | ||
| And then, yeah, I decided that I wanted one of those. | ||
| A mountain? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I couldn't afford one, for obvious reasons, so I got a tattoo. | ||
| And the artist that I like, Caitlin Drake McKay, turns out she learned all about the ink wash stuff. | ||
| Wow. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| From school and all that stuff. | ||
| So we're talking about it, and I wanted that kind of thing. | ||
| But in her style, you know, from when we're alive, which is now, and not several hundred years ago. | ||
| Merging the present and the past. | ||
| That's the idea. | ||
| So tomorrow is when I'm going to see what it is. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| So I'm getting my Sean. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Yeah, I'm excited. | ||
| I'm very happy for you. | ||
| I'm excited. | ||
| It's very interesting when someone says, I'm getting, like, tomorrow I'm getting, or whatever, because that could go, like, you know, your brain's Google autofill. | ||
| Could go anywhere. | ||
| And the first thing I thought you were going to say was my wisdom teeth out. | ||
| I don't know why, but that was stuck in my head. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| Do you like your wisdom teeth? | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I had them out. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
| And then I read recently somebody's like, why are we ripping everybody's wisdom teeth out? | ||
| And nobody had a good answer. | ||
| I didn't know that this was a controversial subject. | ||
| Turns out, probably doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, someone, I got that root canal, and then someone very kindly brought up to me, hey, you know, people say root canals, baby, they're not what you're supposed to do anymore. | ||
| Great. | ||
|
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Cool. | |
| Every time I learn about something, the thing that I knew for my entire life turns out to be wrong! | ||
| Yeah, sweet. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| Well, tattoos are healthy, and I hope it goes well. | ||
| I'm excited. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know how St. Louis I am? | ||
| How St. Louis? | ||
| Yeah, that's my tattooist. | ||
| It's Murphy Lee lyric. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we've got an episode to go over. | ||
| We're going to be talking about September 11th. | ||
| 2024. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Not 2001. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| We've already done that. | ||
| Yes, we have. | ||
| We're going to be talking about Wednesday on Alex's show, the anniversary of September 11th. | ||
| Probably, you know, I think in the context of his career, probably one of the biggest things. | ||
| Yeah, I would say so. | ||
| In terms of being the building blocks of what he's got now. | ||
| Wow, that's an ironic... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Because, you know, like, his career started, obviously, with stuff about Waco and rebuilding the church in Carmel and stuff. | ||
| You know, like, there's that shit, but that never would have gotten us where we are now. | ||
| No, I mean... | ||
| 9-11 truther stuff is really the bedrock. | ||
| It is interesting to think that perhaps 9-11 truthering and, you know, just W and Cheney together... | ||
| Are the reason that patriot lore became all lore. | ||
| It became so widespread in the way that it has. | ||
| There's such an increase in its place in the market. | ||
| Yeah, I would very strongly argue that all of the disinformation network space and all of that stuff that's been created out of that was really a result of Bush and Cheney in the Iraq War. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah, I think, especially the effect of the combination of 9-11 and the Iraq War, in as much as deeply traumatic events paired with sort of untrustworthy responses to them, create a... | ||
| Just a vast space that something like Alex can thrive in. | ||
| Yeah, why would you trust the official story when the official story is untrustworthy? | ||
| It's just, we're stuck with this asshole instead. | ||
| Which is not trustworthy either, but, eh, here he is. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| So, let's get, we'll get down to business on this here episode, but first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Ooh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, my boy Bath Saltz, thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a ballsy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Next, Chris Loves Blair. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| And congrats on the new job, Mary! | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you! | ||
| And we had a technical aid in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much. | ||
| To Heather, continue using Knowledge Fight as the carrot for washing your face, and keep an eye out for domestic Tyler. | ||
| Ooh, demonic Tylers. | ||
| Demonic Tylers. | ||
| Right, demonic Tylers. | ||
| Look out. | ||
| You're not a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
|
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ! | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| I thought that domestic Tylers was a play on domestic terrorists, and so my brain just jumped to that. | ||
| Didn't even see Demon there. | ||
| I immediately thought, when did they domesticate Tylers? | ||
| Have Tylers been domesticated first? | ||
| Horse was first. | ||
| Was it first? | ||
| Okay, so I thought Wolves was about 30,000 years ago, so I put Tylers at maybe... | ||
| Where do you think Horses were? | ||
| 60,000? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Do you think wolves or horses came first? | ||
| I think... | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I think anything I say will be 100% a guess, and any type of backing up of it will be bullshit. | ||
| So I'll leave it to the experts. | ||
| I'm not even making fun of you. | ||
| I think they probably were concurrent. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| Someone was working on both at the same time. | ||
| Hey, I'm fine not knowing. | ||
| So we start off here, Jordan, like I said, it's September 11th. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's not just the anniversary of the terrorist attack. | ||
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Sure. | |
| It's also the day after the first debate between Trump and Kamala Harris. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so Alex obviously has a number of thoughts about both of these subjects. | ||
| Yes, I imagine so. | ||
| Waging war on corruption. | ||
| Crashing with the lies and disinformation. | ||
| You found it at the tip of the spear worldwide. | ||
| Driving forward the truth of the heart of the beast that is the New World Order. | ||
| It is Wednesday, September 11, 2024. | ||
| 23 years to the date that the deep state attacked the World Trade Center complex and the Pentagon. | ||
| And I was there as we speak as the... | ||
| Wait, you were there? | ||
| What an epic debate last night. | ||
| It's going to take some real work to cover all the angles. | ||
| Trump won, but it was three against one, and Kamala lied about everything. | ||
| He told the truth about everything, and it's easy to Monday morning quarterback it. | ||
| She has such low expectations that because she was able to just parrot off stuff and... | ||
| Snarl at him. | ||
| She looked more impressive than she normally does, but that's like 100 pounds of dog manure versus 80 pounds of dog manure in your yard. | ||
| It all sucks. | ||
| It's all terrible, but because the expectations were so low, oh my gosh, she's done just a totally fabulous job. | ||
| She did a pretty good job. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is better, 80 or 100 pounds? | ||
| Of manure? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Depends on if you need to fertilize the crops. | ||
| I mean, that's... | ||
| I mean, it depends on if you have a use for it or not. | ||
| It's a little ambiguous. | ||
| If your expectations are low, you would, you know, low 80 pounds. | ||
| But, I mean, maybe you would prefer... | ||
| Your expectations are like, well, it's probably 100 pounds. | ||
| Oh, it's only 80 pounds that I have to remove from my lawn. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's very difficult to understand. | ||
| Well, I mean, if you have no use for something... | ||
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Sure. | |
| ...then having more of it is... | ||
| But if you have use for it... | ||
| If you have something, you should find a use for it. | ||
| I think that Alex is struggling because the debate did not go well for Trump. | ||
| I think pretty much across the board, people were like, this is pretty bad. | ||
| Why would it? | ||
| It's a bad look. | ||
| He looks bad. | ||
| How could it? | ||
| Why did it happen? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That was more my thought. | ||
| When I was watching it, I was like, boo, this is grim. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But she was doing fine. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Kamala Harris did fine. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Trump is yelling about how everyone's eating dogs. | ||
| I recognize that we still have to go through the motions, but if one of the Uruk-hai is running for president, I don't think man flesh is back on the menu, boys. | ||
| It's like, oh, okay, well then we've got this one. | ||
| It was dark. | ||
| I always try and keep a little bit of perspective. | ||
| I understand that we've gotten where we are by degrees, and it is just sort of gradual and over time that this is... | ||
| Frog boiling. | ||
| Hey, I mean, I have to correct you because I've corrected Alex on that one. | ||
| That doesn't really happen. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| We've gotten here as a slow progression, and if I imagined seeing this when I was younger, it would have been unthinkable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This would have been so shocking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| His behavior, like, they're not really serious about this, right? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that is fun. | ||
| That is funny, because this is pretty much how I thought this was going to go. | ||
| I mean, as far as general direction goes, I think I was pretty right on from the jump. | ||
| I don't know if I'm right about events or anything, but this is where I thought we were going. | ||
| We have one candidate who you can have some pretty good disagreements with if you want, but is being a politician. | ||
| And then you've got a lunatic. | ||
| And that's... | ||
| Essentially, the dynamic that we exist in. | ||
| I mean, it's perfect. | ||
| It's perfect to have a lunatic because then what the lunatic does is reveal that actually the media is fucking insane. | ||
| Like the idea of any of them have it like, well, we're going to fact check. | ||
| It's the Uruk-hai! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I mean, I don't disagree. | ||
| It's just I don't know what the answer is. | ||
| Change. | ||
| Once the Uruk-hai is there. | ||
| Have the entire media go, oh shit, we have been pretending they're not orcs our entire lives. | ||
| Well... | ||
| We're stupid. | ||
| Well, but then the issue becomes, like, we don't really have the power to say you're not a legitimate candidate up there. | ||
| It would be a shock to them if they discovered that they did have that power by just doing that. | ||
| So, look, here's the deal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Trump won. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| Truth. | ||
| About 70-30. | ||
| Oh, that's... | ||
| What? | ||
| Very generous for Alex. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| Now, could have Trump totally dominated her and done better? | ||
| Yeah, Trump won by, I'd say, 70-30. | ||
| If he'd have brought up 325,000 missing kids and said, you oversaw it, you're the greatest human trafficker in history with your cohort. | ||
| Your partner in crime, Mayorkas, and when I get elected, we're going to find those children, we're going to prosecute you for stopping the DNA testing and telling the crime gangs to come in and giving them money. | ||
| It would have been a 100. | ||
| He would have politically gutted her and decapitated her non-violently politically, that's a metaphor, to the world. | ||
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So... | |
| I don't know what the hell the Trump campaign is doing on issues like that, but when you've got the nuclear weapon and you can use it and win, what is the problem? | ||
| Alright, so Trump won 70-30, but... | ||
| If he had said the magic words and demanded that Kamala Harris show her demonic form that is truly underneath her face, I would have been 100. | ||
| Then he definitely would have won. | ||
| If he would have forced her to admit that she worships Satan and is trying to kill all humans to usher in the age of Silicon in honor of the planet Saturn, if he would have done that, then it would have been 100. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, you know, you make fun. | ||
| But I do think that would have been a hundred. | ||
| If that's your benchmark, then yeah, 70-30 seems about right in context. | ||
| Now it makes more sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Your benchmark is discovering the secrets of the universe. | ||
| So yeah, I mean, yeah, you can't get a hundred. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And demanding that she admit that Tim Walz is a Chinese agent. | ||
| Yeah, that was going to be tough. | ||
| Everything Harris said. | ||
| Lie. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| Every single thing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| To the point where it gave Alex a headache. | ||
| I bet it did. | ||
| And I think that might have also... | ||
| Alcohol can give you a headache. | ||
| Yeah, that'll happen. | ||
| Well, last night was extremely frustrating to watch, but also very interesting. | ||
| Thank you for joining us on this live Wednesday, September 11, 2024 transmission. | ||
| And we're going to dissect what happened there. | ||
| Everything Kamala Harris said was a lie. | ||
| And everything she said was a multiple, triple, quadruple flip-flop. | ||
| And it gave me a very bad headache when I was driving home at midnight last night. | ||
| The crew stayed until past 1 a.m. on air. | ||
| Did a great job. | ||
| I've been up since 5 a.m. | ||
| I had to tap out at midnight. | ||
| And then I got up at 5 a.m. this morning after about four and a half hours sleep and went back to work. | ||
| I have done my duty here. | ||
| And you see this huge stack? | ||
| Most of these are just one page thick. | ||
| Each one of these is a lie by Kamala. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| You printed off a bunch of tweets. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Just a lot of oppo research on each individual lie right there. | ||
| Really burning the midnight oil. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| If I were him, I imagine it would give me a headache to watch this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it looks bad. | ||
| It's really, it's harder to cover for Trump. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because he's saying enough stuff that is like, that's exactly what I would say. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it looks stupid. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| If you're Alex, you're like... | ||
| Do a little bit more? | ||
| It's just not... | ||
| It's hard to make excuses. | ||
| I just love that we're in a place where an entire political party was like, oh, I never thought that they wouldn't run the corpse against us. | ||
| I was just so sure that this dead man would be... | ||
| All we had to do is weekend at Bernie's, this guy, and we were going to win. | ||
| How could they ever have chosen someone who was alive? | ||
| Well, it's an interesting bet that they made. | ||
| But unfortunately... | ||
| The things that were done while under that assumption have not paid off very well. | ||
| No. | ||
| Like, Trump seems to not have any ability to adapt. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Picking J.D. Vance was a stupid idea. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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I just, I don't know. | |
| I would be pretty mad if I were Alex watching this. | ||
| But one of the things that made him the most mad is the fact that it is a three-on-one match. | ||
| Trump versus Kamala plus the two moderators. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then you've got the three-on-one, and I knew what I was seeing, but even Megyn Kelly and Dr. Phil, but even some CNN people were like, well, they would do double follow-up fact checks on him like they were God, and of course they were lying. | ||
| And so it was Kamala and the two so-called moderators gang up on Trump. | ||
| They would talk over Trump. | ||
| They would turn his mic up too high, down too low. | ||
| Audio experts, Grammy Award winners, are on with Phil talking about it. | ||
| I mean, they were jacking with Trump. | ||
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And... | |
| I'd give him a B+. | ||
| Oh, B+. | ||
| Was she plumping, though? | ||
| Was she on a bag of blood? | ||
| Ah, yeah. | ||
| So this stuff Alex is saying just isn't accurate. | ||
| I watched the debate in full, and if anything, the moderators were overly fair to Trump. | ||
| He kept butting in and wanting to respond to things Harris had said, even outside of the format of the debate. | ||
| The moderators gave him a lot of leeway, and there was at least one glaring instance where Harris wasn't given the same courtesy because they knew that they needed to move the show along and that she wasn't going to throw a tantrum if she didn't get her way. | ||
| There were a couple of mic issues, but that wasn't just Trump. | ||
| Harris had sound issues, too. | ||
| It was a production issue, not a Trump sabotage issue. | ||
| I feel like we now live in a time where it's always in your best interest when you're someone like Alex to engage with stuff as if you're supposed to lose. | ||
| If Alex says that the moderators are ganging up against Trump and the sound team is in on it, then Trump's actual performance doesn't really matter. | ||
| If he loses the debate or it's just fine, then he actually should have won, you know, because the odds were up against him. | ||
| You know, they're stacked against him. | ||
| Winning should have been impossible. | ||
| Like, he just was that good. | ||
| On the flip side, if he wins, you just get to say that he defied all these impossible odds because he's just too good. | ||
| All of this is just fake storytelling stuff that Alex is doing, but he's doing it in a way that projects weakness. | ||
| I have a fundamental problem with this. | ||
| Consider wrestling. | ||
| A lot of times, the heels cheat. | ||
| The bad guys cheat. | ||
| That's the idea. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're the bad guys. | ||
| They have their allies interfere in matches or they use weapons. | ||
| Everyone knows that they're going to cheat. | ||
| And in a lot of instances, it can become what you expect from their matches. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like right now, there's the faction, the bloodline. | ||
| And you know that they're going to interfere in matches to exploit the numbers advantage that they have. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| A babyface going up against them would look really shitty if they talked about how the game was rigged and that these guys were just going to cheat in their match. | ||
| You'd rightly have a difficult time rooting for that person to overcome the odds because they kind of come off whiny. | ||
| It just sucks. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Even if they won, it's probably because they cheated too, so who cares about their complaining about the cheating? | ||
| It just makes you look weak. | ||
| This is not... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Talking isn't going to do it. | ||
| They're living in this, like, they're constructing this fake reality, but because the other party isn't really participating with them in it, they aren't able to do it well. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so they're playing this thing that just looks weak. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| Yeah, I mean, when you're all talking shit, you know, then everybody's playing the same game. | ||
| But whenever it's revealed that you're just, you're the only people talking shit, and everybody is being patient with you, like, the idea of, like, oh, God. | ||
| Can you, like, okay. | ||
| In 2016, I get it. | ||
| You're getting blitzed. | ||
| You're a media person who's supposed to be moderating a debate. | ||
| And this is Trump debate? | ||
| So you're like... | ||
| When we were doing this with fucking Gore and Bush, everybody was just like, lockbox. | ||
| It was very simple stuff. | ||
| Even when you had Ross Perot, he wasn't being like, my dick isn't small. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So in this case, in this regard, I get you not knowing what to do. | ||
| But if you are now in 2024 and you're like, well, I am going to make my decisions based on the fact that I know that this giant baby is going to throw a tantrum and you're going to... | ||
| To mollify that baby, then you should quit. | ||
| You should quit. | ||
| I think that a lot of people probably are scared. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| Of him. | ||
| If you are scared, you should quit. | ||
| You should fucking quit. | ||
| I think that the moderators did a fine job of holding the line, as it were, in terms of this debate. | ||
| And I think that Harris had the most... | ||
| I've seen of anybody who's been in a debate with Trump of a, like, I don't give a fuck about what you're saying. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| So there is a bit of that. | ||
| And the moderators, to their credit, like, they only were like, this is stupid, a couple times. | ||
| Most of the time it was just like, each person, say what you're gonna say, and then we'll thank you for saying it. | ||
| You know, like, it was a fairly neutral presentation. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But there were just a couple times where Trump was like, they're executing babies after they're born, and they had to be like... | ||
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| They had to be like, that's illegal in every state. | ||
| You know that. | ||
| I mean, that... | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I think that the point that you're making about in 2016, there was very little awareness of how to handle this. | ||
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It made sense! | |
| And I think this was handled a little bit better. | ||
| I think there's still improvements that could be made in how you present. | ||
| But that's always going to be the case with the media. | ||
| It's never going to be perfect. | ||
| But you see improvements. | ||
| Well, good. | ||
| I'm very proud of them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex really just wanted Trump to take the headshot. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| About immigration and all these missing children at the border. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Kamala Harris is personally trafficking. | ||
| And he's pretty pissed off that Trump wouldn't do it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's got the Death Star pointed right at her little pea brain. | ||
| And just pull the trigger. | ||
| Good God! | ||
| So I'm going to shoot some videos on this, and I'm going on the warpath in a loving way towards Trump. | ||
| What? | ||
| Because when he talked about it in two speeches the last three weeks, it went sensational. | ||
| Everybody wants that. | ||
| It's the right thing to do. | ||
| It is the winning issue that unifies everybody. | ||
| And I'm just sitting here watching it, and I mean, of course, oh, he trained with Tulsi to go after being the big police state person and putting his people on death row. | ||
| Didn't open up on her about that. | ||
| And look, I say this not to sit here and say I would have done it better. | ||
| Trump, overall B +, man the arena, works his ass off, 78 years old. | ||
| I'm not Monday morning quarterbacking this or Wednesday morning quarterbacking it, literally. | ||
| I am just simply saying that he kept the gloves on most of the time. | ||
| A little bit at the end, he took them off a little. | ||
| And I would like to see that. | ||
| So, we've got all that. | ||
| It's the 23rd anniversary of 9-11, which if you study it, which nobody's studied it probably more than I have. | ||
| It's an inside job. | ||
| Totally synthetic. | ||
| Deep State Operation. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| He sounds really pathetic there at the end, sadly trying to hold on to some idea that he's a 9-11 scholar. | ||
| Alex has literally no idea what any of his theories were about 9-11, and the most successful thing he did around that event was to re-release someone else's already successful movie, Loose Change, and add his name to it and call it Loose Change Final Cut. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Stolen Valor conspiracy theory bullshit from Jason Burmus. | ||
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| But more to the point, you can see how much Alex doesn't really like Trump starting to come through. | ||
| Trump's not extreme enough, and he doesn't have the ability to entirely steamroll a presidential debate anymore. | ||
| His rudeness and tricks are kind of old now, so they don't have the same impact they did in 2016, so most of the debate ends up him saying insane things, and then the moderator's saying thank you, then they move along. | ||
| Harris didn't even feel the need to respond to most of the bullshit Trump was saying, and like I said, I think that's pretty good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Alex wanted Trump to be his weapon, and he's losing his attractiveness as a weapon. | |
| He won't take these headshots when he has the chance. | ||
| It's kind of like he's outlived his usefulness to the crypto Nazis and only really serves any purpose if he just cuts the bullshit and becomes a tyrant. | ||
| This is basically the frustration and tension that Alex is describing. | ||
| He kind of hates Trump because he embodies all of the things that Alex is supposed to be against. | ||
| But he's the only opportunity Alex has had in his lifetime to get the thing that he wants most, which is to wield the power of the state against his enemies. | ||
| This whole thing does have big made-a-deal-with-the-devil vibes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we're in that stage where it's not as fun anymore. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| I'm going to go on a loving crusade against Trump. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| I mean, it is really, we are in a situation where it does seem to be the only thing that makes sense is he's going to have to try and take over and become an actual tyrant, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because there's no way that it would mean anything to win or lose. | ||
| So he's just got to do it. | ||
| If the stakes are as high as everybody says they are, like, oh, they're going to kill babies in the streets. | ||
| Then he has no option in the eyes of his own people but to steal it. | ||
| He would be seen as one of the... | ||
| Liberating. | ||
| Also, let's look at the flip side. | ||
| He would be seen as one of the greatest traitors if he just gave up. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, Tucker is describing him as the only hope half of America has. | ||
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| Like, do you lose an election and then be like, well, half of America, good luck. | ||
| Good luck filling my shoes, the guy who's taken over this entire political party? | ||
| I mean, that is kind of the problem with the stakes that everybody's put onto this election, is that if it is like, this is the direction of our democracy going forward forever, then it's like, well, yeah, it makes sense to try and steal it. | ||
| That's the thing you should do if you care, right? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think you get into a paradox there. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is why whoever actually does it is probably going to win. | ||
| You gotta do it, and then everybody else will be like, well, we need to argue about it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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| If that's even possible. | ||
| That is a good question. | ||
| How would you do it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I know Alex has a lot of theories about how they did do it. | ||
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| But they're all not true. | ||
| They didn't work. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because they didn't happen. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I think that from a narrative standpoint and from making sense of the trajectories that we've been on, it kind of feels like Trump has to win and then become a dictator. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or he has to lose and try to become a dictator afterwards. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And probably fail. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hopefully fail. | ||
| Hopefully fail. | ||
| I think it feels like those are the things that are going to happen, or most likely to happen. | ||
| And it does feel really strange to imagine, like, nah, there's a scenario wherein Harris wins, and Trump is like, remember after the 2016 election when he was like, ah, lock her up, that was a good one. | ||
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| You know, like, there's a chance that he just does that. | ||
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| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| The problem is, the problem with all of his trials and stuff is that by postponing them after the election, the thing that you have made very clear is that if you win that election, there are no trials after the election. | ||
| So if you lose the election, you're going to go to jail. | ||
| Because then people won't care if you go to jail. | ||
| And in fact, even your own people will be like... | ||
| Yeah, let's send that asshole to jail. | ||
| He failed us. | ||
| It becomes incredibly convenient for the right wing to turn on him at that point, I guess. | ||
| Which they should start doing now. | ||
| Much like they should start doing that with Musk, quite frankly. | ||
| Elon Musk, you guys are quickly, the window is closing on being able to disentangle yourself. | ||
| But Alex talks about both of them in this next clip. | ||
| Talking about how many clicks. | ||
| Trump got for doing an interview with Elon Musk. | ||
| Right. | ||
| A million years ago, Trump should do this again every week, for heaven's sakes. | ||
| He went on with Elon Musk and had over a billion clicks. | ||
| They estimate over 700 million people watch more than 15 minutes. | ||
| That's one of the biggest broadcasts in history, not the biggest. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Hell, for something that big, they should have a video element. | ||
| Musk could fly to Mar-a-Lago or meet Trump or Trump should come to Austin, set up cameras, have a video stream as well as an audio stream, and it'll have even more viewers. | ||
| Please, do a six-hour symposium or something. | ||
| But, oh, we've got to run to ABC. | ||
| We've got to run to CNN, whose average show has like a million, two million viewers on ABC, a million on their biggest shows on CNN, 100,000 average show. | ||
| I mean, they're just a facade. | ||
| And I made the point that I couldn't count them all up just on X alone, but I did look at... | ||
| A lot of big channels, and our coverage of Musk, Trump, before, during, and after, for like four hours, it was an hour and 15 minutes with Trump, but about an hour before, you know, the hour and 15 with Trump and Musk, about an hour and a half after, so three and a half, four hours, we had easily 15, 16 million just on X, that we had four streams going out, and it was pushing 15, 16 million. | ||
| And if you want to see this today, you can see it. | ||
| It's up on Infowars.com. | ||
| We have the different streams and links there for you. | ||
| You can see what we had yesterday in the pregame, during the debate, and after for the three hours. | ||
| I guess it was about... | ||
| Real coverage started at about 6 to 1 a.m. | ||
| So how many hours is that? | ||
| That's seven hours. | ||
| And you can see the article on Infowars.com. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Breaking. | ||
| Infowars received over 14 million... | ||
| Viewers on X alone during our Trump-Harris debate coverage. | ||
| Now, let's talk about that. | ||
| Who broke that story? | ||
| You go look at it. | ||
| One's got 10 million, one's got 2 million, one's got a million and a half, the others have a half a million. | ||
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| One stream alone's at 10 million right now. | ||
| That's what it closed out at. | ||
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| 10 million. | ||
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| That's the info war stream. | ||
| Usually it's the little stream. | ||
| But it went crazy. | ||
| 10 million. | ||
| Go look at it. | ||
| Number, 10 million right there. | ||
| Now, I'm not counting all the clips we put up. | ||
| That's another, we looked it up, 7 million. | ||
| That we just went and looked, not other people copying it. | ||
| So I looked at 30, 40 channels, because I think this is very interesting, that also restreamed Musk. | ||
| So we got 15, 16 million when we covered Musk. | ||
| It was like 15 plus. | ||
| Because today I can show you the actual number. | ||
| This was like a month ago. | ||
| I'm trying to remember the exact. | ||
| Do we need to be here for this conversation? | ||
| I was looking at other people's coverage. | ||
| 20 million, 30 million, 10 million, 6 million, 8 million, 4 million, 1 million, 1 million, 9 million, 3 million, 2 million. | ||
| And I just stopped in a minute and went, oh my God. | ||
| I just put in Trump, Elon Musk, you know, clicked the top thing and just was scrolling through the numbers. | ||
| And it was, I mean, if you would, I had no idea how many it was on top of the billion just on the Musk stream. | ||
| 700 million watched a lot of it. | ||
| But over a billion, 200 million was the last number I saw, clicked it. | ||
| And that was the day after. | ||
| Who knows what it is now? | ||
| And then it was all over the dinosaur media and all over talk radio and clips everywhere. | ||
| So the old media is dead. | ||
| It's not like, oh, the old media is losing to the Internet, or like Trump says, or, oh, wow, they had polls out in the last week. | ||
| Wow, the Internet now is much bigger than legacy media. | ||
| Yeah, they say 70-plus percent is the Internet. | ||
| Political coverage, of course it is. | ||
| So, even with all the censorship on all the other platforms, X has now more than doubled its size since Musk took over. | ||
| In fact, it's almost tripled. | ||
| It's now the number one social media for engagement. | ||
| That clip was so long, and I apologize. | ||
| It feels like it goes on for what feels like forever. | ||
| But, like, honestly, a lot of his show is like that. | ||
| I believe you. | ||
| So, enjoy. | ||
| But Alex is trying to make this point that Trump talking to Elon got a lot of clicks on Twitter and that the debate on ABC got less viewers than that, so Trump should do more interviews with Musk and less mainstream stuff like the debate on ABC. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's a pretty simple point that Alex has to talk about incessantly because it gives him this pretext to brag about his own inflated numbers. | ||
| A lot of that information is entirely inaccurate, but I don't really care to argue about Alex's numbers or Elon's. | ||
| Suffice it to say that Twitter is not doing record numbers. | ||
| The opposite is actually happening. | ||
| More or less destroying a social media company. | ||
| But I want to pretend that it's all true, because it's actually kind of worse if it is. | ||
| If that is the case, that hundreds of millions of people, maybe a billion people, watched the Trump-Elon interview, possibly a thousand times the viewership of ABC, what does the world actually remember about it, other than it happened? | ||
| In theory, based on what Alex is saying, it should have been a moment that'll be recorded by history and taught to classes in the future. | ||
| But I would bet a nice chunk of change that Alex doesn't even remember the specifics of what happened, other than maybe the fact that they started late because the text sucked. | ||
| If what Alex is saying is true... | ||
| Then he's really just illustrating how little of an impact his genre of social media has on the real world. | ||
| Your shit can get a billion hits and it doesn't move the needle in a meaningful way. | ||
| This isn't the flex that Alex thinks that it is. | ||
| All of these numbers are actually making him look worse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The bigger they are, the more shit you have on your yard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Essentially. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Also, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and WhatsApp have larger active user bases than Twitter. | ||
| You know... | ||
| It is interesting to think about it in that context of, like, if there were a billion views, exactly one billion, that would put it on par with, like, when the penguin falls and everybody hears it go, you know, a billion people have seen that, you know. | ||
| And if that is the same, then they're of equal substance. | ||
| There's about as much you get out of both of them. | ||
| I would argue that maybe the Penguin has more because it's not trying to. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| So maybe it is more successful in what it is trying to do for a billion people than Trump's. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I was just reflecting on that as I was listening to him brag about all these numbers, that it's like, what? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If that mattered. | ||
| Then Trump's numbers shouldn't be going down. | ||
| Like, the polling shouldn't be 50-50 or as close as they are if your billion hits mattered. | ||
| If I'm a comic, which I used to be... | ||
| And if I'm doing a show for 10,000 people at Madison Square Garden or whatever, I do not want to end that show and be like, man, I can't believe I did a show for 10,000 people who shrugged. | ||
| What a shrug show! | ||
| If I'm going to get shrugs, I'll do it for 10 people. | ||
| If I'm going to do 10,000, I want fucking big goddamn laughs. | ||
| I'm not getting shrugs. | ||
| If you are able to captivate an audience of... | ||
| A considerable percentage of the Earth's population. | ||
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| Then you should be making a lot more of an impact than whatever that fucking stupid, boring conversation had. | ||
| Alex was bored by it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Trump, the only way he loses... | ||
| Is if they cheat? | ||
| Is if he doesn't play. | ||
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| Or if they cheat. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| The corporate dinosaur media is a shadow of a shadow of a shadow of a shadow. | ||
| Compared to the independent media that is the media. | ||
| We have won. | ||
| There's election fraud in place. | ||
| They're trying to convince you this is a close race. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| If he doesn't win, it is election theft. | ||
| And they always, oh, the fact checkers, there's no evidence, she's right, that there was any fraud in 2020. | ||
| None of the judges would hear it. | ||
| They said there's no standing. | ||
| And they punted it. | ||
| Trump's won court cases all over the country. | ||
| They're kicking millions and millions of illegals and dead people off the rolls over a million in Texas. | ||
| And then the Justice Department goes, don't do that. | ||
| We're going to indict you. | ||
| That's criminal. | ||
| They said that two days ago. | ||
| So, they're covering up the windows. | ||
| Trucks are driving. | ||
| When they say it's closed, the surveillance cameras get sued, the county and districts do, and you've got the footage of them looking over their shoulder. | ||
| I mean, yeah, they stole the 2020 election. | ||
| They tried to steal. | ||
| They didn't mitigate the victory in 2022. | ||
| That's your pitch? | ||
| But I'm just going to say it again. | ||
| Whether they can steal this election or not, all over the world, the New World Order, the Globalists, the WEF, the BlackRock Crime Syndicate, power is slipping away from them, and the world is quickly waking up to them. | ||
| So for me, that's the big takeaway. | ||
| We can obsess over the rigged debate, and why did Trump do it? | ||
| Or why did he say this or that? | ||
| And Kamala is usually bombed out of her gourd or hopped up on amphetamines. | ||
| She looked like she was on some amphetamines and a little mix of maybe something to relax her, but I think they got her meds right last night. | ||
| Was it blood? | ||
| This is the best performance we've ever seen from Kamala. | ||
| But again, there's the lowered expectations. | ||
| So this is the same dynamic I brought up earlier where all of your narratives rely on the expectation of you losing. | ||
| It sounds like what Alex is saying is that Trump is going to win, but in reality what he's doing is saying that Trump actually losing is not even a possibility. | ||
| So there aren't two possible futures, one where Harris wins and one where Trump wins. | ||
| There's the future where Harris steals the election and wins, and the one where she tries to steal it and Trump wins anyway. | ||
| According to Infowars lore, as we understand it, there is no world where Trump actually just wins. | ||
| Like in 2016 and 2020, Alex knows there's a pretty decent chance Trump is going to lose. | ||
| And he needs to have this built-in reason for why that happened that isn't the ideas that my world is based on that's unpopular with normal people and appeal mostly to severely online dipshits. | ||
| All that stuff Alex was saying is bullshit that we've discussed in the past, so I'm not going to get bogged down in it again. | ||
| But there's one point that Alex made that really sticks out. | ||
| He says that no courts heard Trump's election cases and that they were all punted for lack of standing. | ||
| That's something that Trump said in the debate, but it's a complete lie. | ||
| I actually just remembered this from watching the debate. | ||
| There's a moment where the moderator asks, recently you have accepted that you lost the 2020 election. | ||
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| Trump's like, no I didn't. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| See, that's where you lost. | ||
| I forgot about that moment. | ||
| That's where you lose. | ||
| If you're the media, you've already lost. | ||
| Well, I think everyone was pretty shocked because he did say that we lost by a hair and stuff like that fairly recently. | ||
| He said he was being sarcastic. | ||
| Yep, there you go. | ||
| Anyway, a 2022 report looked at 64 of Trump's cases that were raised in six states after the 2020 election, which found that 30 of them were not thrown out for lack of standing, and they got hearings. | ||
| This report, which was written by conservative legal scholars, said, We conclude that Donald Trump and his supporters had their day in court and failed to prove substantive evidence to make their case. | ||
| It's all shit, but this is a critically important piece of the bullshit infrastructure. | ||
| This is the lie that allows the other lies to exist, because it creates the explanation for how Alex could be correct about all these things, and yet none of it's proven. | ||
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If only Trump could have had his day in court, then the truth would come out. | |
| But Trump did have his day in court, and he failed to prove any of this bullshit. | ||
| Holding on to these unproven things and behaving as if they're true is essential to Alex's ability to keep going. | ||
| So this keystone lie is holding up a lot of the weight of the other lies. | ||
| All of that other stuff that he ranted off about... | ||
| Cramming boxes and nonsense. | ||
| All of that is supported by this idea that Trump never had his day in court and all of these cases were kicked out for lack of standing. | ||
| He needs that to enable the other lies. | ||
| There's a lot of dynamics like that with his stories. | ||
| Yeah, there's so much of like... | ||
| It is a lot of, you know, when rubber meets the road kind of shit, where it's like either this or this. | ||
| And if it's not this, you have to do something different. | ||
| You can't continue to believe the same thing if you're faced with this choice. | ||
| You just have to, yeah. | ||
| And they've chosen that Trump has won. | ||
| It's already done. | ||
| There's no going back now. | ||
| And not only did Trump win the 2020 election, he's going to win this one. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And he won the debate. | ||
| He just won that fucking debate. | ||
| But then why would you ask, why would you do it, and then have people continue to ask it after the debate? | ||
| If you win the debate, people go, well, that's why you did it, to win the debate and show off how great he is. | ||
| He won the debate, but he could have won more. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah, that's the thing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The good news is, I'm looking at the numbers. | ||
| Most polls Trump won. | ||
| It was his to lose. | ||
| He won the basketball game by 12 points. | ||
| He could have won by 55. He could have done through the air, Air Jordan, you know, slamming and, you know, breaking the basket. | ||
| Huge basketball. | ||
| Shattering glass. | ||
| He didn't do any of that. | ||
| Did Jordan ever do that? | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| 78 years old, wants his ass off and refuses to debate prep. | ||
| And so they come in and feed him all this stuff, give him all these documents and videos, and then Trump doesn't even write notes, and then he just... | ||
| And part of that's his strength. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I'm better a lot of times when I already have the knowledge, but I don't really prepare. | ||
| The best shows are when I don't prepare, but that's maybe once a month that I do that, because I'm so busy on something else. | ||
| And then I just kind of go with my deeper knowledge, and you get more of a sermon. | ||
| Again, so much of this just involves making excuses, and it just sounds incredibly weak. | ||
| Also, all of the credible polling around this is that Harris won the debate by a country mile. | ||
| A CNN flash poll before the debate found 50% thought Harris would do better, 50% thought Trump would do better. | ||
| A poll after the debate found that 63% Thought Harris did better. | ||
| What you gonna do? | ||
| 96% of Harris supporters thought she had done better than Trump, whereas only 69% of Trump's own supporters thought he won. | ||
| Harris's favorability rose from 39 to 45 before and after the debate, whereas Trump's dropped from 41 to 39. ABC reported on a trio of polls that came out after the debate among people who watched the debate. | ||
| This included the CNN poll, which had a plus-26 margin for Harris, but also included YouGov, which had a plus-23 for Harris, and a Republican-sponsored poll conducted by SoCal Strategies, On Point Politics, and Red Eagle Politics that found a plus-19 margin for Harris. | ||
| I can't find any polling that shows that Trump won, and the overwhelming majority of all the coverage of the debate was that Trump looked bad, Harris looked good, and it's insane that the Yeah. | ||
| And then Taylor Swift endorsed Harris, and in retaliation, Elon Musk offered to impregnate her. | ||
| So that's where we are. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| I'm like it. | ||
| So I've been doing the no internet thing. | ||
| Now, what I do have, though, here's my polling, all right? | ||
| We talked about this way back. | ||
| I put money. | ||
| On Nikki Haley, right? | ||
| But I also put money on a woman president, because at the time, I was like, basically the same thing. | ||
| I got a good bet on both. | ||
| Sure, you're covering, you know, you're doubling up a little bit. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| If Haley wins, you win both ways. | ||
| It's the same difference. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So what works out, Haley doesn't win, but I've still got a really great bet going right now. | ||
| And so... | ||
| What were your odds? | ||
| One to five? | ||
| That's not as... | ||
| I mean, five to one. | ||
| I would have really thought you'd got better odds than that. | ||
| At the time, no, because Haley was polling pretty well. | ||
| So it was like, you know, five to one, something like that. | ||
| But still, at the time, the presumptive nominee on one side was Joe Biden. | ||
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| So one in five odds that a Republican has to... | ||
| It's such... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I would have tried to get... | ||
| I'm going to tell you this. | ||
| I'll tell you why. | ||
| Very simple. | ||
| People who gamble are also like... | ||
| That guy's probably going to die. | ||
| I'm gambling that he might die. | ||
| True, true. | ||
| That is the gambling mentality. | ||
| One or both of those men are old. | ||
| We are in an era where people die randomly. | ||
| No, that's true. | ||
| Trump got COVID. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| Anybody could die at any point in time. | ||
| But yeah, so anytime I want to see what the polling is like, it's usually like, oh, there's a 56 cents for Harris and 44 for Trump, right? | ||
| And that's the polling. | ||
| Is it 53 to 47? | ||
| That's the same thing. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| After the debate, Kamala, yeah, it was up there. | ||
| It was at like 60 or something like that, so she did better. | ||
| Gamblers agree. | ||
| Yeah, I think if gamblers watched that, they'd be like, I don't feel great having money on Trump. | ||
| It kind of looks like shit, yelling about how people are eating pets. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| So Alex has decided that because Trump won't... | ||
| Be enough outspoken about the human trafficking and all that stuff that he's going to start attacking Trump in order to get him to toughen up. | ||
| And I'm really serious. | ||
| I've talked to the campaign people. | ||
| I've talked to a lot of people. | ||
| I can get Trump on the phone if I really want to. | ||
| But it's pointless if he doesn't want to do it. | ||
| I just... | ||
| So... | ||
| You know, I'm going to find out when he's at Mar-a-Lago because this is the kind of thing that will get attention. | ||
| And I'm not going to do anything illegal or anything bad, but I'm going to go make a scene. | ||
| I'm hoping the message gets to him, and I can call up Don Jr. | ||
| You know, I can call Kennedy up. | ||
| I do everything on air. | ||
| He doesn't have the same ring as he used to. | ||
| I give stories to. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| I give a lot of stuff to Rogan and other people, but they listen to me. | ||
| If I give it to them, they do it, usually. | ||
| I can put a bow on it. | ||
| I've sent Trump, I've had law firms create reports for him about the deep state and the sorrows people were in his cabinet and he started going after him and that's when I got attacked really hard. | ||
| But I just, it's such a no-brainer. | ||
| Do I really have to start going after Trump on air? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know, I am. | ||
| Because we've got to win 54 days out, 55 days out. | ||
| This is bumming me out. | ||
| Yeah, this is sad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is sadder than him talking to a robot. | ||
| Go! | ||
| Go! | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Should I go cause a scene? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| You're Alex Jones! | ||
| That's all you can do! | ||
| That's what you do! | ||
| Why are you not doing it is the question you should be asking yourself. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe I shouldn't be nice to a political candidate. | ||
| No, you shouldn't be nice! | ||
| I kind of have a theory about that. | ||
| And we'll get to that in a minute. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Why he wouldn't do... | ||
| This kind of stuff that he used to do. | ||
| But, like, I don't know. | ||
| There's just something so depressing about, like, I could call Don Jr. | ||
| Maybe I'll call Kennedy. | ||
| It's just like, dude. | ||
| Have dark thoughts. | ||
| We all have dark thoughts. | ||
| These aren't good dark thoughts. | ||
| They're not good dark thoughts. | ||
| But, you know, when you're in the shower and you suddenly get hit by a memory of all the horrible things that you've ever done and you have these dark thoughts, everybody's been there. | ||
| We all get that. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| Don't go on the radio! | ||
| Yeah, don't just start muttering about how you could talk to someone who can talk to Trump. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| No, again, it all just projects weakness. | ||
| Have a donut. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Have a food item and be like, I was sad, but now I'm eating. | ||
| I don't know what else to tell you. | ||
| Instead, it just keeps going. | ||
| It just keeps going. | ||
| I mean, you know the stunts I can pull to get attention with Trump? | ||
| The stuff I can do. | ||
| I don't even go around doing this stuff. | ||
| I just want to cover the news, see other people get involved. | ||
| I could go out right now and just go to every event. | ||
| Go to the DNC, go to the RNC, go to the Trump events, go to all the things, make a huge spectacle, go to all the TPUSAs, go to the CPACs, and take them over. | ||
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I don't want to do that. | |
| But damn it. | ||
| I wonder if I should skydive into Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| Of course, it's controlled space, and I'm joking, and that'll be a headline. | ||
| That'd be fucking great. | ||
| I just want this to give to Trump, and I just want him to stop. | ||
| Yeah, just stop. | ||
| This is really, really sad. | ||
| And all I hear is two very loud messages. | ||
| The first is that Alex has no access to Trump. | ||
| If he can even reach him, it's probably through multiple layers of people like General Flynn or Roger Stone. | ||
| And it seems like maybe those two aren't going to do any favors for Alex. | ||
| He is on the outside of whatever rings there are. | ||
| The second is that... | ||
| Alex is a little bit afraid to find out if his publicity stunts work anymore. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about is the reason why he probably doesn't do this. | ||
| I don't think you're wrong. | ||
| I think Alex knows damn well how disposable he is now. | ||
| How if he goes against the mob that he's helped create, he won't leave the mob. | ||
| It will turn on him. | ||
| Loyalty to this figurehead is what matters right now. | ||
| So sure, go try to take over some of Trump's rallies. | ||
| We'll see how well it goes. | ||
| Enjoy. | ||
| Turning Point is probably something Alex could have more success disrupting. | ||
| Their influence has been decreasing, and Charlie Kirk has outgrown it to have a brand of his own, so Alex might be able to mess with some of their events, but who cares? | ||
| Nick Fuentes already did that, and we've seen what the most successful outcome of invading them is, but I think that's probably a good option, because they had Alex come speak at their conference, so they let him in the door. | ||
| He could abuse that and really fuck with them if he wanted, but it's a dead end. | ||
| I like the skydiving into Mar-a-Lago idea. | ||
| For a couple reasons. | ||
| One, if he gets shot down, Alex Jones shot down, lives forever. | ||
| That's legend shit. | ||
| You won. | ||
| I'll sit down and respect that shit. | ||
| Two, succeeds. | ||
| Fucking amazing! | ||
| That's a stunt that everyone will talk about. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But even that is so, like, this is all still just Alex being uncreative, because he's just stealing this from Lord Monkton. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| Lord Monkton sky dove into the climate conference. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Yeah, he's just stealing other people's ideas to get attention. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| As he usually does. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So let's not forget, though, that Alex is doing that show in Pennsylvania with Tucker on the 23rd, which is still not sold out. | ||
| Like, that's not good. | ||
| There's still tons of seats available, and I think that Tucker might have realized that Alex isn't the draw that he was expecting. | ||
| In an attempt to sell more tickets, they just added Jack Posobiec to the show. | ||
| No! | ||
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And it's still not sold out. | |
| I think that Alex kind of understands all of this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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He can lash out and probably get a ton of hits on Twitter, but it doesn't translate to anything meaningful. | |
| He's left whining and considering publicity stunts on his show while Laura Loomer is on Trump's plane. | ||
| Like, Alex has been left behind. | ||
| And until he recognized that and flips on this whole thing, his content can't really move forward. | ||
| It's all just kind of like, you're just going to be mad at yourself until you turn on Trump and create something new for yourself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is... | ||
| Yeah, it's exactly that. | ||
| Because the only... | ||
| The cost of being on the end. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Is giving up yourself. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Laura Loomer is not a person. | ||
| She is whatever Trump says she has to be to have her be on the plane. | ||
| Yeah, she's an entity of hostility. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Like, Alex is in a strange place for these people because Alex really did build it by himself. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| What he built was his. | ||
| You know, that was the thing about when we were looking at Becca Lewis's research, you know, and she's showing, like, This whole thing is just separate from the media ecosystem. | ||
| It's just, that's him, you know? | ||
| And then when he got on the inside, he had to become like a Laura Loomer, and now he's nothing. | ||
| He's just nothing. | ||
| They've stolen a lot of the things that he did in order to create whatever he created. | ||
| And in the process, he's given up so much of the ability for him to move in this space in the way that made him unique. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And it's really tragic on a kind of like... | ||
| If it were a science fiction story. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| If we're a thousand light years away and we're reading about this story, despite the fact that he is clearly the villain, we go, aha, the irony of life and blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Fuck him, I don't care. | ||
|
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Exactly. | |
| I'm not sympathetic to it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| From a narrative standpoint, a character study is kind of depressing. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Faust wasn't the good guy. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Alex, I mean, just, like, listen to this shit. | ||
| This just makes you sad. | ||
| Please remember. | ||
| Yeah, we had 14 million viewers just to our pre, during, and post-debate coverage on X alone. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Millions at Infowars, millions on radio stations. | ||
| I'd say conservatively, 20 million people tuned in last night. | ||
| I checked this morning, no extra money. | ||
| Regular sales, barely enough to pay the bills. | ||
| I'm not bitching. | ||
| These are great products. | ||
| I need your support. | ||
| Go to drjonesnaturals.com. | ||
| Go to infowarsstore.com. | ||
| You need nitric boost. | ||
| You need X2. | ||
| You need X3. | ||
| What does that tell you? | ||
| I mean, that should be all... | ||
| Any advertising marketing agency or anything would be like, well, we need to make a change. | ||
| We had 20 million people watching our show, and it translated to no sales. | ||
| You have to either conclude that this sucks and it's not working, or these are fake people. | ||
| These numbers aren't real. | ||
| Or we're doing something bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I mean, when I first started doing the hearing aids, way back when, they would do these direct mail campaigns, right? | ||
| And the marketing people would show up and they'd show you the little postcard and they'd be like, this is the postcard that's getting our best response. | ||
| Half a percent. | ||
| And you'd be like, wow. | ||
| That's the response. | ||
| So you send out 20,000, you know, and you get half a percent. | ||
| And that's a real number. | ||
| 20 million. | ||
| You should get a very real number out of it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes, you should. | ||
| You are not getting a real number, which means the numbers are fake. | ||
| It's all fake, man. | ||
| Yeah, even if your conversion rate is minuscule on 20 million viewers, you should see a considerable rise in sales. | ||
| Absurdly huge, yeah. | ||
| And so something's wrong. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that bummed me out. | ||
| And then this commercial that Alex played bummed me out even more. | ||
| A 2024 AEV Dodge Prospector. | ||
| This is my dream truck. | ||
| But this truck won't belong to me. | ||
| It's going to belong to you. | ||
| The folks that visit thealexjonesstore.com and enter to win for free by entering your email. | ||
| Or when you buy products, they put you in five, ten times in the raffle for this bad boy. | ||
| I'm going to walk you through this. | ||
| But this is hands down. | ||
| Look up for yourself. | ||
| The most badass truck in the world. | ||
| It's a pretty badass truck. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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He's doing a truck giveaway. | |
| I've never been in a business where they said, you know what? | ||
| It was the raffle that really turned everything around for us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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We were on a real downward trajectory, so we all got into the room and had a big meeting, and somebody was like, we should do a raffle. | |
| We raffle off a badass truck. | ||
| That's worked every time other businesses have tried it. | ||
| You know, there's something about Alex that, like, he comes from radio. | ||
| And so this feels like a local radio station. | ||
| It really does. | ||
| It feels... | ||
| sad. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I don't know what to say. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Yep. | |
| You're not supposed to be this, man. | ||
|
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You gotta... | |
| Oh, God. | ||
| If you are... | ||
| If you find yourself here... | ||
| Don't be here! | ||
| Go somewhere else! | ||
| Do something else! | ||
| It just stinks of local radio. | ||
| It's beneath what Alex pretends to be. | ||
| And I thought it was very, very funny. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I'm not knocking local radio. | ||
| No. | ||
| We would both be delighted to have our voiceover careers from 10 years ago start. | ||
| And I lament the way that Consolidation has ruined independent local radio stations. | ||
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Totally. | |
| Or hindered them in a great way. | ||
| I love radio. | ||
| It is Alex who is the... | ||
| He is the creation of that. | ||
| I think the idea of a truck giveaway for a local station is fantastic. | ||
| It's what you should be doing! | ||
| That's great. | ||
| For Alex, bummer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's supposed to be like God's chosen messenger on Earth, and he's doing a fucking raffle. | ||
| There's a fine line between everybody put your hand on this truck, and whoever's hand is there at the end gets to keep the truck, and they shoot horses, don't they? | ||
| Big difference. | ||
| Maybe you just need to hear a little bit more about the truck. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| When you enter to win this, you fund the info war and take it to the globalists. | ||
| Now, let's talk about this badass truck. | ||
| This is a freaking monster. | ||
| Now, you're getting the colors I like the best. | ||
| This dark green, this black, the red pinstripe. | ||
| What really matters is the shocks, the giant tires, the engine. | ||
| Now, because one of you lucky people out there is going to own this truck, I'm not going to take it off-road. | ||
| But we've taken other ones off-road. | ||
| Believe me, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| You don't need to tell me that. | ||
| Look at this sexy monster, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Just be that! | ||
| Look at this sexy monster. | ||
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Do that! | |
| Stop being the Alex Jones of the InfoWars guy and then just be the guy who's like, look at this big fucking truck! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe you should just be a car dealer. | ||
| That'd be great! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's where people like him have always meant to be. | ||
| God. | ||
| It just, it was, I got a little bit of whiplash from this commercial. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look at this sexy truck! | ||
| That is. | ||
| He seems so mad. | ||
| That is fucking crazy. | ||
| So we come back for a commercial. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I got even more sad. | ||
| Watch the rebroadcast later, you can't call in. | ||
| But right now, we'd love to hear from you on last night's debate and September 11th and how it changed our world 23 years later. | ||
| That's a big place to go. | ||
| The entire campaign, World War III on the table, forced injections, new deadly mRNA shots that they get in, and open borders, and expanded human trafficking, and the criminals getting away with it all. | ||
| We deserve it. | ||
| I think we're delivering. | ||
| Please support us. | ||
| The Deep State came out of that. | ||
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877-789-2539. | |
| I'm seething right now. | ||
| Yeah, I would be too. | ||
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I don't know if it gets better than that. | |
| I just don't know how to... | ||
| I don't know how to... | ||
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I don't know how to... | |
| I don't know how to never forget more than that. | ||
| Yeah, I thought I was hallucinating when I first heard that. | ||
| I just accidentally started playing a commercial. | ||
| Alex recognizes it, loses his train of thought, and then is just mad. | ||
| I mean, that's a genuine, you should be furious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For the context of what you're talking about. | ||
| Talking about September 11th being meaningful. | ||
| In another life, he would have stormed off the show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I think the robot has taught him some patience. | ||
| Oh, that's nice. | ||
| Good job, robot. | ||
| He doesn't actually storm off the show. | ||
| He's very polite and apologizes. | ||
| He takes some calls. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And here's one that's real dumb. | ||
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And another thing, too, I want to bring up is some of those questions, like, about her race. | |
| What race do you think she is? | ||
| And like he said, nobody cares. | ||
| Nobody cares about stupidity like that. | ||
| We care about, you know, turning this country around. | ||
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I don't care if she's related to Barney the frickin' dinosaur. | |
| I've heard that one before. | ||
| So that was just plain stupidity. | ||
| Well, it's meant to be saying he's like racist. | ||
| I mean, the woman is Indian. | ||
| Her father was maybe... | ||
| Careful. | ||
| I did the numbers. | ||
| I looked it up. | ||
| He's the same amount of African that I am Native American. | ||
| So if my dad's like 13% and his dad was 30-something percent... | ||
| Percentage is a great way to describe this. | ||
| That would make me... | ||
| Six and a half percent. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| So she's three and a half percent black. | ||
| I mean, I've done the numbers. | ||
| The genealogy of her is well known and out there. | ||
| So the only reason that the question was asked in the debate about this was because Trump said that Harris recently became black in an interview he did with the National Association of Black Journalists at their conference. | ||
| If Trump hadn't said what he said, there would be nothing to ask about. | ||
| It's his fault. | ||
| He did this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Alex really isn't helping here. | ||
| Trump's comments were that Harris became black, not that she became African. | ||
| African-American and black are not the same word. | ||
| And Alex is asserting that Harris' father is not African to claim that he's not black, which is Alex intentionally playing games with words in order to make a racist point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Regardless, Harris's father is Jamaican with African descent, so all this is just absurd levels of rationalization meant to slightly obscure these folks' fundamental racism that this world is based on and built upon. | ||
| So that's fun. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, it made sense, I guess, whenever people were like, let's stop using black. | ||
| But in reality, black is the correct word because it was never about, like, It is just finding a reason to exclude and enslave all of these people. | ||
| And skin color is a great one for this. | ||
| It has never been like, oh, well, we're not from Egypt. | ||
| We'd say it's Africa. | ||
| They don't even know what is in Africa. | ||
| It is just... | ||
| It's just what it is. | ||
| They're racist towards black people. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Black people! | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And Alex is trying to somehow intellectualize things, and it's just, all you have to do in this case is say, like, wow, Trump really fucked up there. | ||
| Yeah, shouldn't have done that! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hey! | ||
| It's not easy, or it's not difficult to not defend that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Even if you're Alex. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| But... | ||
| Whoopsie! | ||
| So, earlier in the show... | ||
| I didn't cut a clip of this, and I kind of regret it in hindsight. | ||
| Alex started sort of riffing a song parody of Karma Chameleon. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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How does this get racist? | |
| So he's like, oh man, I gotta write out those lyrics. | ||
| No. | ||
| I gotta make this cover of Karma Chameleon. | ||
| And then this happened later. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
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All right, we're going to post this on X. We'll make a music video out of it. | |
| Chase Geiser is so amazing. | ||
| He's like an octopus doing so much work back there. | ||
| And he heard me first hour just off the top of my head just say those lines. | ||
| He wrote that down. | ||
| AI and said rock and roll woman's voice. | ||
| And 30 minutes later, we have this. | ||
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Wow, it's so good. | |
| Wow, it's so fun. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Come on, come on, come on, easy on. | ||
| Gotta take your guns. | ||
| Gotta destroy your border. | ||
| It's not World War III. | ||
| Wow, it's so good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I like the central metaphor. | ||
| All right, that's great, but I did that off the top of my head. | ||
| We need to come up with the rest of the song. | ||
| Like, gonna chop your son's penis off. | ||
| Gonna cut your daughter's breast off. | ||
| Gonna have Satanism at the Super Bowl. | ||
| Gonna give you poison shots. | ||
| Die, die, die. | ||
| The chameleon's gonna kill you. | ||
| And it's gonna be fun, fun, fun. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| I'll write some lines up. | ||
| Yeah, please do. | ||
| So yeah, I just, I struggle as somebody who's followed Alex's career. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I struggle to hear that and not, like, I don't understand why he's not mad about this. | ||
| I am. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I hate it. | ||
| I hate AI. | ||
| I hate it. | ||
| He should be furious about this bastardization and this parody of human creativity. | ||
| Yeah, it's horrifying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Chase should be out on his ass, thrown through the studio plate glass window, quite frankly. | ||
| Agreed! | ||
| Get that fucking octopus out of here. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Yes, this is bad! | ||
| By your own rules! | ||
| Why am I the one who is angrier about this? | ||
| I watched Waking Life not too long ago, because I wanted to revisit it. | ||
| And I'd forgotten that Alex was in it when I started the movie. | ||
| And his scene came on. | ||
| And I was really taken back to seeing this for the first time, not knowing who he was. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And one of the things that he's screaming about is the creativity of the human spirit that will not submit! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, and all this, like... | ||
| Going back to the 90s, these are the kind of messages that were really important about humanity's too good. | ||
| And now we have, isn't it funny that this robot made a song in 30 minutes? | ||
| I did something. | ||
| I watched Ghost in the Shell. | ||
| I re-watched Ghost in the Shell, the original 95 one. | ||
| Obviously the 90s, that's where we're living at these days, apparently. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And it is like, for all the themes about it... | ||
| The thing that people tend to forget is the idea is that the consciousness is searching for death. | ||
| Because death is the way you validate existence, right? | ||
| So that's the entire thing. | ||
| And that the AI cannot die is the problem. | ||
| That the AI is not alive, you know? | ||
| And that the AI can't emote. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| It's meaningless. | ||
| You're creating a facsimile of the, whoa, whoa, or whatever, but that was supposed to be, in the context of music, this expression of somebody feeling something. | ||
| It is not aesthetically pleasing. | ||
| No. | ||
| It is by the lack of aesthetic pleasing that we are allowed to see the emotion within it. | ||
| Otherwise, we could have just had somebody who was very good at singing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And this bums me out. | ||
| And it should bum out Alex. | ||
| It should bum everybody out. | ||
| We're in such a weird space. | ||
| Where Alex is like, oh, isn't that fun? | ||
| We can make song parodies faster. | ||
| Yeah, I think we need to... | ||
| Dan, I think it's you and me. | ||
| We're leading the Butlerian jihad. | ||
| I think it's us. | ||
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This is trash. | |
| I think all thinking machines have to die. | ||
| So Alex takes a call from Twitter. | ||
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Sure. | |
| He's also on Spaces. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And this person's another idiot. | ||
| Right. | ||
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I wanted to really thank you. | |
| I happened to hop in right when you were touching on what's happening here in Springfield, Ohio. | ||
| I'm about a county over. | ||
| And no matter if the cat that was on the police video was killed by a woman here in Canton, Ohio, or if the The geese were killed by migrants at the park. | ||
| But no matter if some of the topics or the ways that stories were conveyed in the moment were off, the main thing is that we now have gotten the message out there that a town of What was 38,000 or maybe 40,000 has now had an increase of 20,000 people who are going to need assistance that the local community does not have to provide. | ||
| Now I'm noticing when I've dealt with my, and been in charge of my grandfather's disability and food stamps for the past couple years, that this is one of the first months that he has not been, or that his payment is now five days late. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's Cloward and Piven. | ||
| They know bringing in 25 million illegals in just three and a half years is going to collapse the country. | ||
| It's designed to do it. | ||
| They admit that's their plan. | ||
| So, this caller really gets to the core of what the strategy is for these folks. | ||
| And also, you had a lot of confused looks on your face. | ||
| I'm worried... | ||
| Did you not hear about any of this stuff? | ||
| No idea. | ||
| Any context? | ||
| No context at all. | ||
| Okay, well, feel free to ask questions as we go along. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, this caller is essentially openly admitting that it doesn't matter if all that stuff about people's pets getting eaten was a lie, because they accused Haitian immigrants of doing it, which drew spotlight to the fact that there's a bunch of immigrants in this town, which is... | ||
| Apparently a problem. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Incidentally, it's not a problem. | |
| Springfield, Ohio's population has been increased considerably in the past few years due to an influx of migrants. | ||
| but its economy has also improved along with it. | ||
| As the economy has generally improved without the labor that these migrants provide, the factories and industry in Springfield wouldn't have been able to operate the way that it has. | ||
| A lot that's being ignored. | ||
| So what's going on here is that on May 18th, 2023, a 35-year-old Haitian man drove a minivan into ongoing traffic, which ended up causing a bus to veer off the road. | ||
| The ensuing crash killed an 11-year-old child and injured 23 other kids. | ||
| The man driving the bus was charged with involuntary manslaughter and vehicular homicide. | ||
| Despite pleas from the deceased child's family, this event was used to stoke hatred towards the largely Haitian immigrant community there in Springfield. | ||
| J.D. Vance has been an utter disappointment as Trump's VP choice and is from Ohio. | ||
| In recent weeks, he's been trying to get some of that hometown cred in speeches, and he's hit particularly on the subject of Springfield, Ohio, multiple times, looking to inflame the feelings of resentment towards migrants, exploiting the death of this 11-year-old child. | ||
| People are posting bullshit on social media, blaming migrants for stealing and eating pets there, which is sort of working in concert with J.D. Vance's bringing up of Springfield, and so people are trying to validate it with things like, someone ate a cat! | ||
| It turns out it's not a migrant. | ||
| It's all just a bunch of bullshit. | ||
| Now Alex is pumping this up, and Trump is repeating it aggressively on the debate stage. | ||
| That's what Trump was talking about when he's like, they're eating pets. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| It's literally all xenophobia and racism, and this caller is a really great representation of how it doesn't matter to a believer whether something is true or not. | ||
| He wanted to believe that immigrants were eating pets because he wants to demonize immigrant populations. | ||
| He's going to push the story that they're eating pets because it furthers that goal. | ||
| Once it's a little too embarrassing to continue pushing the story that they're eating everyone's pets, he retreats to just saying, well, aren't there a lot of immigrants there? | ||
| As if that's been his point all along. | ||
| He points to his grandfather's supposedly late check, which, if that story is even real, has nothing to do with migrants in a different city, and Alex thinks his dad shouldn't be getting, his granddad shouldn't be getting to begin with. | ||
| The eating pets thing might have been bullshit, but my grandpa's check is late, and that's what this is really about. | ||
| That's an unacceptable point, and that's an unacceptable way to present your shit, but that's exactly what this caller is embodying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's how these games are played a lot of the time. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, that's so fucking... | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| Every part of that sucks. | ||
| It's just trash. | ||
| The willingness to be like, ah, maybe the whole story that we were telling isn't true, but still... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's just... | ||
| Come on, guys. | ||
| I mean, just fucking... | ||
| Awful. | ||
| No! | ||
| How do you listen to somebody? | ||
| I mean, it is like, Sir, stop all of that. | ||
| Call the office and see where your grandfather's check is. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's our conversation, sir. | ||
| Everything else, shut the fuck up about. | ||
| And I thought, the first time I listened through that clip, I thought he was saying this is the first time the check's ever been late. | ||
| But he didn't. | ||
| He said this is one of the first times. | ||
| It's not even a unique experience. | ||
| What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| People just have... | ||
| Too much ability to say things and demand people hear them. | ||
| Just idiot shit is too available. | ||
| And that's... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What else is there to say? | ||
| You know what else there is to say? | ||
| What? | ||
| Do you want a fucking sexy truck? | ||
| I do! | ||
| You know what? | ||
| That actually has brightened my day. | ||
| I take back everything I've ever said about sexy trucks. | ||
| I know a guy who could get you a sexy truck. | ||
| I bet giving him my email address is a good idea. | ||
| So here's where I was like, I heard that commercial for the sexy truck. | ||
| And I was like, this is pathetic. | ||
| This is a real bummer. | ||
| But then, a little bit later in the show... | ||
| Alex has a guest on. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Who's the guy who's giving away that sexy truck. | ||
| Now I'm back in. | ||
| And I started to understand what was happening here. | ||
| So Alex talks to this guy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Been working with Nate Hughes and his crew for a while. | ||
| They're in Bentonville, Arkansas. | ||
| They got their own Made in America knife company and t-shirts and everything else. | ||
| And when you go to thealexjohnstore.com... | ||
| There's over 30 amazing t-shirts. | ||
| They're the ones that design the t-shirts for so many folks with the Hodge twins and Steven Crowder and so many others. | ||
| They've got next-level t-shirts. | ||
| Ours are great. | ||
| I designed them, so I'm going to be quite honest. | ||
| Most of our t-shirts are not this badass. | ||
| Well, these are our t-shirts now. | ||
| TheAlexJonesStore.com. | ||
| We need funds. | ||
| To get more reporters back, to expand, to fight the tyrants during this key election, look at those t-shirts. | ||
| Look at them if you're a TV viewer. | ||
| If you're a radio listener, these are in stock. | ||
| These are made right here in America, printed in Arkansas, ready to ship to you. | ||
| And I hope with some of the concepts on these, but their concepts are even better. | ||
| These are badass t-shirts. | ||
| So you get what's going on, right? | ||
| Alex has got a new t-shirt guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's trying to get all of the... | ||
| His supplement business is now his dad's supplement business. | ||
| The clothing and apparel and all of that stuff is now this. | ||
| But he needs to drive traffic over to this thing. | ||
| And so we have the Alex Jones store is the URL for this guy's business that is totally separate. | ||
| Completely separate. | ||
| Totally separate. | ||
| And they're giving away a truck in order for you to be lured into going and giving your email address and buying product to try and transition customers over to this. | ||
| You've got to off-ramp people. | ||
| No, it makes sense. | ||
| It makes total sense. | ||
| It's a great business move. | ||
| It's painfully transparent. | ||
| I can't believe this is all legal. | ||
| I can. | ||
| Yeah, I guess so. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So anyway, this guy is also his old knife guy. | ||
| This guy is also his... | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| Why won't anybody just do fucking limericks like they goddamn meant to? | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Sometimes it's like, just do fucking limericks! | ||
| If Marty Schachter was giving away a sexy truck, perfect. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Everything makes sense. | ||
| The world is a better place. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But so Alex's knife guy is now his clothes guy. | ||
| He's giving away a truck. | ||
| And also... | ||
| That could not be more of like a, hey, I've got my idiot brother to run this multinational corporation because he's absolutely not related to me in any way. | ||
| Now let me ask this question about your idiot brother. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Was he there on January 6th? | ||
| And we're not going to spend the whole show on this at this hour. | ||
| We're going to go to your calls and spaces because Nate Hughes is a patriot. | ||
| He's a J6er. | ||
| He didn't want to get into it, but just like Owen, right now he's facing prison time. | ||
| So the owner of the company, he's trying to stop that. | ||
| I know you don't want to get into the case, but you did absolutely nothing, of course, just like Owen. | ||
| And it's just all part of the dragnet. | ||
| Absolutely criminal in my view. | ||
| But your whole company are patriots, and it's full of veterans, and you're just kicking ass, and you've been doing a great job for so long, and it's wonderful to be working with you. | ||
| So Nate Hughes was a violent rioter on January 6th. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There's footage of him fighting with the cops, wearing one of Alex's Space Force shirts, no less. | ||
| Good. | ||
| He attempted and failed to steal a cop's shield and was recorded yelling incitement towards his fellow rioters on multiple instances. | ||
| Hughes is actually a living embodiment of the fact that Alex's version of the story on January 6th is full of shit. | ||
| Hughes was doing things that Alex claims didn't happen. | ||
| And on August 6th, just a little over a month ago, he pled guilty to one count of civil disorder, one count of assaulting, resisting, or impeding an officer, and one count of violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds. | ||
| He's set to be sentenced on November 15th, so you know he's hoping Trump wins. | ||
| Or else he might end up getting some horrible punishment like probation. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So anyway, he's a knife guy who's now a clothes guy who's giving away a truck, also is facing... | ||
| Possible prison time for January 6th. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| This is Mad Libs. | ||
| I appreciate just how useless the legal system is. | ||
| It's almost impressive at a certain point. | ||
| Apparently, I mean, just this moment, this snapshot is such an embodiment of that. | ||
| It is just like, do they get together and then listen to this moment and go like, oh. | ||
| I think we've done great. | ||
| So this guy who tried to overthrow the government. | ||
| Let's stop right there. | ||
| In service of Trump who lost an election. | ||
| While he violently tried to steal a cop's shield in the scuffle. | ||
| So he pled guilty to that stuff. | ||
| And now he's decided to... | ||
| Create a shell business for Alex to sell merch through. | ||
| See, now, after trying and failing to overthrow the country, he's going to steal money from the families of a dead child. | ||
| Right, and take a cut. | ||
| And take a cut, yeah. | ||
| By using Alex's name. | ||
| Right, and then the legal system is going to collect those fees, baby! | ||
| Billable hours! | ||
| So now, I think, because they're talking about a sexy truck, I think that Alex might... | ||
| Confess to something here that could be illegal. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| I don't know if there's going to be any consequences for this, but we'll see. | ||
| You go to thealexjonesstore.com, you support Alex, you get entered to win a truck. | ||
| It's a win-win, it's a no-brainer. | ||
| It's very fun. | ||
| Well, I just found the truck I want. | ||
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Me too, I want it too. | |
| I'm kind of jealous. | ||
| But I'm not just saying this, folks. | ||
| You should. | ||
| Ford's got big tires, and it's great, and I put it through hell. | ||
| I even had the rear alignment fixed recently because it just rattles all over the road. | ||
| I'd given the truck to my dad, but then with the bankruptcy stuff, he said, you can use the trucks. | ||
| It's not even my truck anymore. | ||
| But the point is, I love the old truck. | ||
| I had a lot of fun in it. | ||
| But I've got to get rid of it once I drove this. | ||
| I don't know how it's so smooth. | ||
| Did you give your dad a truck to shield it from bankruptcy? | ||
| Yes, obviously! | ||
| Alex, what are you talking about? | ||
| Don't talk about giving away your assets in the context of a bankruptcy while you're on air doing something that's meant to shield assets from bankruptcy. | ||
| I mean, you know, it is like... | ||
| What keeps society together is we all just agree that if Alex doesn't say it out loud, maybe it's not true. | ||
| But he did say it out loud. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| Now we all have to admit that he's hiding his essence from the bankruptcy. | ||
| He's frequently saying this shit out loud. | ||
| And they are not doing anything about it. | ||
| So it's fine. | ||
| It's legal. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| I am shocked that everybody is not stealing shit all the time. | ||
| So I don't know exactly how this business is set up. | ||
| I didn't have a whole lot of time to look into it, but it is just basically a Shopify sort of online store or whatever. | ||
| In theory, I mean, enough pressure could be exerted on Shopify, and this could be shut down. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| Because they, I imagine, would not want to be associated with this very clear attempt on Alex's part to pivot customers from his business that is subject to bankruptcy over to a new dummy business. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's owned by a guy who tried to overthrow the government. | ||
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Well... | |
| I'm not saying people who try to overthrow the government shouldn't be allowed to own stores. | ||
| That's not what I'm saying. | ||
| Who among us? | ||
| Hey, listen. | ||
| I'm closer to the overthrow the government side than not half the time. | ||
| But I don't know. | ||
| At the very least, you should have to make your own store. | ||
| It can't just be something that Alex gives you. | ||
| I honestly think that trying to overthrow the government is more defensible than starting an online store for Alex Jones. | ||
| Yeah, I 100% agree with you. | ||
| I think you could construct a much more sound, Ethical argument for overthrowing the government. | ||
| We celebrate overthrowing the government once a year. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So until we celebrate Alex stealing money from tragic families, then yeah, I think it's worse. | ||
| So anyway, I got to a point where I was like... | ||
| Click. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm going to listen to Alex and this Ding Dong talk about how great this truck is. | ||
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The problem is I would listen to the commercial about, look at this sexy truck! | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| I would listen to that for half an hour, but Alex just sort of sitting in the studio with this guy trying to talk about the great truck. | ||
| Not fun. | ||
| No. | ||
| And this is the day after the debate and the anniversary of September 11th. | ||
| If I'm this guy, right? | ||
| The only reason that this guy is the guy who's chosen is because he's the guy who's not going to be like, why'd you pick me? | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because if Alex is like, hey, I'm trying to hide money from these families. | ||
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And you are conveniently going to be in prison. | |
| I would be like, why do you think I would want to be involved in that? | ||
| There are some uncomfortable questions that might be arisen. | ||
| I get the whole idea that we could, like, in their world, they can be like, ah, I'm hiding it from bankruptcy lawyers and all that stuff, but, like, at the end of the day, you're stealing it from families of children. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You're just a thief. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| Thief slash knife salesman slash... | ||
| Yeah, so he... | ||
| Shirt designer slash... | ||
| Excuse me, sir. | ||
| I know you have no morals. | ||
| Please, I'm setting up a store. | ||
| I just, I can't find it within myself to understand that kind of a decision. | ||
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Ugh. | |
| But hey, they're going to make some bucks on some shitty hats and shirts. | ||
| Best of luck to them, I guess. | ||
| And to whoever wins that sexy fucking truck. | ||
| Oh, also $10,000 cash. | ||
| I forgot about that part. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| $10,000 cash and the sexy truck. | ||
| That's what people are trying to win. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I kind of want that truck. | ||
| $10,000 put up by the shirt company, Alex specifies. | ||
| We're just robbing people. | ||
| Feels like it. | ||
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Yep, yep. | |
| Anyway, we'll be back with another episode. | ||
| See what the other kind of... | ||
| Honestly, the heights of the first... | ||
| Robot interview. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And the ride that we took. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I really felt at a low when we hit that third interview. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I thought, like, I feel a little dirty. | ||
| Now this. | ||
| Alex is giving away a truck. | ||
| You know, it's the problem with the roller coaster. | ||
| We went up too high. | ||
| We heard the chick, chick, chick, chick, and we were like, well, we're obviously going to stay up here forever. | ||
| No, sir. | ||
| Wrong. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Now we're giving away a fucking truck. | ||
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We'll see what happens with that, but until then, we have a website. | |
| Yep, we'll also be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I am the mysterious professor. | ||
| Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo! | ||
| And now, here comes the sex robot. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. | ||
| Hello, Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work. |
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