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#926: March 4, 2011

In this installment, Dan and Jordan do the show live at the Middle East in Cambridge, MA.  They cover March 4, 2011 where Alex is very preoccupied with Twitter and interviews a guy who happens to have written a book on pick up artistry.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
08:57
d
dan friesen
33:17
j
jordan holmes
15:49
Appearances
b
bob chapman
01:41
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
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Jordan, I sweat it KnowledgeFight.com It's time to pray I have great respect for Knowledge Fight Knowledge Fight I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys Saying me are the bad guys Dan and Tor Knowledge Fight I need I need money Andy and Panza Andy and Panza Stop it Andy and
Panza It's time to pray Andy and Panza Hello Alex, I'm a big fan I love your room Knowledge Fight KnowledgeFight.com I love you Everybody *Cheering* Woo Thank you.
dan friesen
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We are a couple dudes who like to travel the East Coast, sit around a bit, and also talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
unidentified
Oh, indeed we are, Dan!
Bah bah bah!
Bah bah bah bah bah boo!
Boo!
dan friesen
That is never comfortable in front of a live crowd.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what we do is we all listen to the worst man talk and then laugh.
unidentified
Cool!
jordan holmes
That's our job!
dan friesen
How you doing, Boston?
Seems good.
Seems good.
unidentified
Thank you so much for coming out to the Middle East!
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
This is absurd.
There's so many of you.
unidentified
So many of you.
dan friesen
25 years ago, a little boy named Dan heard the opening notes to 128 by the Mighty Mighty Boss Tones live at the Middle East.
And here we are so many years later.
jordan holmes
Oh, it happened.
dan friesen
It did.
Why?
unidentified
It took a lot of work.
jordan holmes
Here we are.
dan friesen
And I'd like to introduce our trombone section.
The trombones didn't show up.
That's why we started a little bit late.
We thought the horns...
jordan holmes
We had to lie about it because otherwise, whenever I sold the venue on the show, they were like, it's two dudes talking, eh?
In this legendary punk venue.
dan friesen
Compelling visually.
jordan holmes
I feel like every now and again I just have to pump my fist just to...
unidentified
Yeah!
See?
dan friesen
Terrified.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I'm going to curl up in a shell.
jordan holmes
Yep, that's too much power for one man.
dan friesen
Austin has turned me into a tortoise.
unidentified
Pick her up, pick her up.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
dan friesen
I'm going to have to skank around the stage.
So when we were preparing for these shows, I was like, I've got to do something special.
And my biggest idea was I would debut a new shirt at each show.
Which goes to show how...
Maybe that would be fun.
jordan holmes
All right.
Again, legendary punk venue, that was the shirt.
dan friesen
Thank you!
jordan holmes
The shirt bit paid off, buddy!
unidentified
All right, we can't keep this energy up the whole night.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
This is impossible to do.
dan friesen
My other big idea was the reveal that I actually spoiled for you.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
But I figured out the cities that we're going to around the East Coast.
I was like, what's the connection between them?
And I figured it out.
And it's that all of the...
We're doing a tour of cities with notable regional accents.
Boston, Baltimore, New York.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Philly.
jordan holmes
All of whom...
It is the Jordan's gonna try and they're gonna hit accent tour.
dan friesen
Yep, yep, yep.
Couldn't get it done in Scotland?
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the Scottish are weak.
I bet Boston's got me.
dan friesen
Oh no, oh no, oh no.
jordan holmes
Somehow daring boss Busting to hit me and promising Scotland will later.
unidentified
Fuck.
dan friesen
So normally you would ask me, but I'm going to initiate with you.
What's your bright spot, bro?
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
Oh, you did?
Oh, you got one of the three!
unidentified
Whoo-hoo!
Completely ready.
dan friesen
Random, and that is fucking awesome.
jordan holmes
That is really cool.
dan friesen
What's that?
unidentified
Hey!
dan friesen
Brother got rehired!
Congratulations.
jordan holmes
Bright spot achieved.
How can you not make that your bright spot?
That's the coolest thing I've ever heard.
What was my bright spot?
We survived hanging out there for two hours without freaking out on each other.
dan friesen
That is true.
jordan holmes
At no point in time did I stab your leg with a fork.
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
Never happened.
dan friesen
I saw some motions.
I was pacing around because I got my Fitbit, trying to get my steps in.
Pacing around backstage.
Like a lunatic.
unidentified
How many steps did you get backstage?
It's...
dan friesen
I don't want to admit to these fine people.
It's not less than 1,500.
But that's your rights whether we survived backstage.
jordan holmes
I suppose.
I mean, come on.
It is this.
It is this magic.
It is achieving something that is both ridiculous and impossible to achieve.
This is like how you can't buy something that's free.
unidentified
Ah.
You know?
dan friesen
I sensed a real, like...
Vague nod coming from the audience.
Like, fuck yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
All right.
Now we could leave happy.
Absolutely.
What's your bright spot, Dan?
dan friesen
I guess it's just coming back to this city.
I spent a little time growing up here.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
Grew up here until a certain age?
dan friesen
Until quite a young age and then moved.
But I had not been back, I don't think.
And I don't remember shit.
jordan holmes
Turns out.
dan friesen
Lovely city.
I've enjoyed walking around, getting my steps in.
But I have...
I don't remember...
What's up?
unidentified
Did you grab the goose?
dan friesen
Did not grab the goose.
No.
And I probably shouldn't encourage this sort of thing.
jordan holmes
No, no questions from the crowd.
While listening to the podcast, you can ask all the questions you want.
Live show, it's harder.
dan friesen
Here's what I'll say about yelling interjections.
Stop it.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
But I appreciate it.
unidentified
This is what we do now.
This is what we do.
jordan holmes
Can you tell we haven't been on stage for a while?
Maybe milking it a bit?
unidentified
Maybe.
dan friesen
Just trying to have some fun.
jordan holmes
We're having fun.
dan friesen
So today we've got an episode to go over, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Banter achieved.
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Check.
dan friesen
We've got an episode to go over and we're going to be talking about March 4th, 2011.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Alright.
Alright.
dan friesen
Do you have any idea why?
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
The rumble through the crowd is very intimidating.
dan friesen
They can't possibly be rumbling for the reason I chose this date.
It's literally impossible.
jordan holmes
Okay, March 3rd, 2011.
dan friesen
Well, March 4th.
jordan holmes
March 4th?
All right.
Well, March 3rd was a better date.
dan friesen
It probably was, yeah.
jordan holmes
I would have done that one.
dan friesen
Well, in hindsight.
jordan holmes
Right.
Boy, no, I have no idea.
What could possibly be happening in March 2011?
dan friesen
Well, we're going to find out.
jordan holmes
Did we start another war?
Did I miss a war?
dan friesen
It's not a war, although a war will be mentioned.
jordan holmes
Ooh, okay.
Charlie Wilson.
dan friesen
So here we are, Jordan.
Boston.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Beantown.
The home of Fenway.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yep.
dan friesen
The main character in Good Will Hunting is the city.
We all know that.
jordan holmes
Is the city of Boston?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The home of C.T. from the Real World Road Rules Challenge.
unidentified
True.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
Is C.T. here?
That's too bad.
unidentified
Yeah, I showed up.
dan friesen
Good on you.
jordan holmes
Thanks, CT.
dan friesen
So there's a lot to say about this city.
So choosing a date to cover was no small feat.
I do think that one thing that immediately comes to mind when you think about Boston, though, is a good old tea party.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So I decided to try and find an episode on the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
They all sucked.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So I tried a couple more dates related to the Boston Tea Party, and they all sucked.
So I figured, you know, if I was going to do an episode about this, I was going to have to dig a little bit deeper, right?
So the Tea Party was carried out in part by a group called the Sons of Liberty, and I told myself, I bet that if I look through the list of people who were members of that group, we were going to find some fun names.
And I was right.
unidentified
Fitch Poole.
dan friesen
William Carolina Cattle Esquire.
Ebenezer Clap.
jordan holmes
Now that's a disease.
That's a disease.
unidentified
This motherfucker's stingy and he's wolf.
dan friesen
There were so many Ebenezers.
jordan holmes
It's nuts.
unidentified
I wonder what made the name go out of style.
dan friesen
And then Henderson Inches.
jordan holmes
Henderson Inches.
dan friesen
I think Inches Henderson sounds better.
jordan holmes
I think so, too.
dan friesen
That's like a mob name.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit, you seen Inches around?
He killed three people last week.
dan friesen
You give him an inch, he takes a mile.
unidentified
Oh, man.
No, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
We've been working on puns all day.
unidentified
We've been walking around Boston.
This is your fault.
dan friesen
It is true.
It is true.
Like, over lunch, I made a pun, and Jordan looked at me weird, and I was like, I'm warming up, man.
We gotta get in game shape.
jordan holmes
Gotta keep going.
dan friesen
So, I liked all those names, and they were strong, and some of them I looked into dates related to them, and those episodes also sucked.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So then I found a great name, though.
A real weird one.
Hercules Mulligan.
That's a hell of a name.
Demigod Do-Over.
jordan holmes
That's, yeah, that's when you really fucked up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I wanted to see if I could learn a little bit more about this guy, and it turns out Hercules Mulligan was a wild figure in the American Revolution.
Sounds right.
He was an Irish guy who came to New York City in 1774 and set himself up as a fancy tailor and haberdasher.
His business thrived, especially among the British living in the colonies, and he got in good with that whole world, even marrying the Admiral of the Royal Navy.
What?
unidentified
However, the whole time he harbored revolutionary inclinations and opposed the British.
jordan holmes
Harbored!
unidentified
Boom!
jordan holmes
Keep going.
That's 2-0.
dan friesen
When the war broke out, he was perfectly situated to be a spy for Washington's army, since he was fitting all the British soldiers with clothes and hats.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Legit, these dum-dums would tell their tale or everything, like literally spilling the beans on secret plots to capture Washington.
3-0!
After the war, Hercules was widely lauded as Washington's own clothes guy, and apparently he appears as a character in Hamilton, which I've never seen.
Which might be why there was an applause for Hercules Mulligan.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
Because otherwise I have no idea.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's a great story of a tailor turned spy, but also fuck him because the only reason he was able to convey secret intelligence to Washington is because he sent a person he enslaved to do it.
unidentified
Oh!
dan friesen
As with all these stories in American history, we need a mulligan.
unidentified
I was going to say...
3-1?
jordan holmes
Oh my...
The audience has spoken.
dan friesen
I think this is a knockout.
That was unfair.
Of me.
I could prepare.
jordan holmes
That one was intended?
That one was way in advance?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we're going to celebrate...
Unfortunately, I looked at every day anniversary of his birth and they were all bad.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So, unfortunately, we're going to celebrate the day he died.
The anniversary of Hercules Mulligan's death.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
So are you ready to jump in?
jordan holmes
Let's do it.
dan friesen
Alright, here is where we start off with March 4th, 2011.
alex jones
The sheening of America in less than a week troubled actor Charlie Sheen becomes country's top pop culture icon.
And they've done different analyses and breakdowns.
He's bigger than John Wayne, bigger than Marilyn Monroe.
And it's because he's not being a hypocrite.
I don't endorse...
You know, everything he's saying or doing.
But he is my friend, and he's been going through a lot.
And the point is, he's saying, I'm going to be 100% real, and I'm not going to be a hypocrite.
And that's what people recognize and appreciate is the truthfulness.
And it's just getting bigger and bigger and crazier by the minute.
I talked a lot to Charlie yesterday, talked to him this morning.
And I just hope this whole thing ends well.
dan friesen
Oh, it doesn't.
jordan holmes
We live in the future now.
dan friesen
Spoiler alert.
Does not end well.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So in case anyone doesn't remember, 2011 was the year when Charlie Sheen had his huge meltdown.
He got fired from two and a half men and became a ridiculous public spectacle.
Everyone had fun watching the train wreck he was living until they didn't and it became very sad.
What people tend to forget is that all of that happened because of an interview on Infowars.
Well, at least a lot of it did.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
It started there.
dan friesen
Sheen was talking to Alex when he got all anti-Semitic about Chuck Lorre and started his public spiral.
People may remember the 2020 interview that he did where he had, like, tiger blood and all that shit.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But Two and a Half Men was canceled directly after he was on Infowars.
It would be a stretch to say that Alex was partially responsible for what happened to Sheen, but he was definitely enabling him and being a bad friend because being a bad friend is good for business.
Because of his proximity to the story, Alex did a round of interviews, including going on The View, and he tried to cash in on this downfall.
It's pretty gross as a little patch of history to look back on, and it only gets worse the more you know about it, so let's not dwell on it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's never.
dan friesen
To give a little bit of sense of where things are at this point, though, on March 4th, the initial interview that led to two and a half men getting canceled took place on February 24th, so we're about a week away from that.
Charlie has done some interviews and he's had his kids removed from his custody and then started tweeting a bunch of nonsense like, winning!
We all remember that?
jordan holmes
I think at this point there really should be like a counter that shows up right there that goes like, seven days away.
And then over six days away.
dan friesen
So he's about a week away from announcing his Violent Torpedo of Truth tour, which I don't know if you remember that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That began with him getting booed offstage in Detroit on opening night.
jordan holmes
I would say, I would say, and I'm just going to throw this out there, Violent Torpedo is not necessarily a great tour name.
dan friesen
But what if it's of truth?
jordan holmes
Okay, never mind.
I'm back in.
dan friesen
Let's go!
It was all bad times.
But it turns out, if you know anything about this, Alex was pretty involved in the events in Charlie's life, apparently.
But mostly, like, cool things.
alex jones
I've known a calm, focused, intelligent Charlie Sheen.
People are calling him a poet, a great comedian.
All of these words he's come out with and terms are becoming cultural icons now.
And a lot of it is rooted in jokes that I told him.
Some of them.
I told him to get on Twitter three weeks ago when I was out of his house.
unidentified
Boom!
alex jones
Broke the Guinness Book of World Records for the most Twitters.
People signing up in one day.
It's approaching two million right now.
I made the joke about how people say we're warlock Vatican assassins.
Folks, he's not a ninja.
He's not a warlock Vatican assassin.
That's a joke.
And he said people don't get my satire.
They don't get my joke.
You know, put a little bit of hieroglyph into your mind to understand what I'm saying.
But people don't get it.
Well, I'm going to be doing a video later today where I may even do it on air where I break down exactly what Charlie's saying.
dan friesen
Ooh, that'll be good.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
dan friesen
Let me explain the jokes that I've told him.
jordan holmes
Alright, so you gotta understand, this man's throwing his career away because I told him a bunch of jokes.
Later on, we're gonna analyze them in detail.
unidentified
I'm gonna translate for you a little bit here.
jordan holmes
Because I want to save his career?
dan friesen
I'll take the fall on this one, please!
So, it is true that Charlie Sheen set that world record, getting to a million Twitter followers in just 25 hours and 17 minutes.
However, he was beaten by someone who Alex does not like very much.
Obama.
Got to a million in just four hours, 52 minutes.
Another parallel here that's kind of interesting.
The world record for the first person to ever get to a million followers, that was set by Ashton Kutcher, the guy who would go on to replace Sheen on Two and a Half Men.
There's layers to this stuff.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
It's an onion.
jordan holmes
And then Elon Musk would go on to purchase Twitter and be exactly like Charlie Sheen.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
It makes sense.
Winning!
It's all coming together.
dan friesen
Winning!
unidentified
Winning!
jordan holmes
Cybertruck!
dan friesen
I just love hearing, though, that Alex is secretly behind all this stuff.
jordan holmes
How many times people claim to be like, no, no, no, you don't understand.
unidentified
That guy's lost his everything because I'm great.
dan friesen
So, Alex has a big announcement.
A large part of the beginning of this show is just him teasing that he has a really big announcement.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
So we actually get to some of your phone calls, which I always enjoy hearing from you and the different questions and directions you take us in.
I'm going to go ahead and go to your phone calls now.
But in the next segment, I'm going to make a very important announcement.
So please stay with us for that.
At the start of the next segment, coming up here in just a few minutes, let's talk to Scott in Mass.
You're on the air, Scott.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Whoa!
jordan holmes
Scott in Mass.
You're wrong.
He's actually in a Catholic church right now.
You've mistaken.
I understand regionally that makes perfect sense to you.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Yep, yep.
Scott in Mass.
Scott in Mass.
jordan holmes
That would be a fun background to my InfoWars call.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe.
I mean, I understand why people would applaud because it's a person who's from Massachusetts.
jordan holmes
I bet they're not going to like him later.
dan friesen
Oh, no, they're not.
jordan holmes
I would imagine Massachusetts will soon not wish this was their only son.
dan friesen
They have many other sons and daughters and folks, but Scott kind of sucks.
Turns out he might be an anti-Semite.
alex jones
Let's talk to Scott in Mass.
You're on the air, Scott.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Mr. Jones.
How are you?
alex jones
I'm okay.
Pretty tired, but okay.
unidentified
I'd like to say that we're in a depression.
Our economy is crumbling.
Look, Goldman Sachs, Bear Stearns, the Rothschilds, and other greedy and evil international Jewish bankers on Wall Street have destroyed our economy, Mr. Jones.
And not only have they destroyed our economy, but the Federal Reserve Bank was founded by Paul Warburg, which is a Jewish invention.
No!
dan friesen
Scott from Mass.
jordan holmes
I was really hoping for the three senators.
I was really hoping for the three senators.
dan friesen
No, no, bad news.
Bad news about Scott.
Sorry.
So here's what's interesting about this, though.
This guy goes off a ways.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
This is a jump off, let's say.
And it gets, like, it's such a thing that Alex is uncomfortable with that he has to push back on this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And he has to start talking about how, like, no, this is bad, this is bullshit, this last caller sucked.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And there's something...
Kind of nice about that, I guess.
jordan holmes
Somebody needs to, at least.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Scott had pushed him too far a little bit.
jordan holmes
Scott has gone too far for Alex Jones, Massachusetts.
Scott from Mass!
unidentified
Woo!
dan friesen
While I was pacing around backstage, I was thinking about that harsh turn on Scott from Mass and how a room full of people would experience that.
So Alex complains about this, about this caller.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then he says something that I think might be as close to prophetic as he's ever said.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
It's despicable, and it's crazy, and it's wrong.
Okay, so I said I'd take a lot of calls, but that one caller just absolutely had to be responded to because it's just nuts.
I mean, it's totally and completely nuts that you can't just criticize corrupt individuals that are doing things.
You have to make it about entire groups of people.
And I, for one, am tired of it.
I'm tired of people making fun of folks that wear cowboy hats and got a suntan and a red neck because they work outside all day and bust their hind in.
I'm tired of it, but people like it.
People like to pick groups out.
And I'm so tired of TV always making fun of Southerners, making fun of people in Texas, making fun of people.
I'm just sick of it.
But it's what people like because it makes them feel good about themselves.
You know, Alex Jones reaching tens of millions of people a month.
Alex Jones trailblazing the awakening against the globalists.
And there's all these armchair quarterbacks and people with, you know, podcasts with 15 listeners.
I'm better than him because I can make up lies about him.
Well, good for you!
dan friesen
Good for you!
I feel like for that clip alone, you've got to choose this episode.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
He prophesies a podcast with 15 listeners.
This is all fake audience noise.
unidentified
Did he make us?
jordan holmes
Is that what happened?
Did he speak us into being like...
dan friesen
We exist in his mind.
jordan holmes
So what happened was, Batman created the Joker.
Is that what happened?
But we're the Joker?
Wait, no.
I don't like either of those guys anymore.
unidentified
Why are you so serious?
dan friesen
That's a Joker thing, right?
jordan holmes
That is a Joker thing.
dan friesen
Yes!
unidentified
5-0!
dan friesen
Okay.
Yeah, so I guess Alex counts as a group of people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was hearing...
dan friesen
Complaints about how people are mean to Southerners and then just himself.
jordan holmes
I was hearing the theme song of Fentanyl the Magic Dragon.
I hate it when people make fun of entire groups lumping them together.
unidentified
What a monstrous thing to do.
dan friesen
Wild.
So that guy, Scott, all of your friend.
Scott ruined calls.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
They're all over.
unidentified
No more calls.
dan friesen
Yes.
So no more calls.
jordan holmes
Don't worry about that.
dan friesen
Alex is just going to spend his time teasing this big announcement.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Hey, here's the big announcement.
I'm going to come back and go to calls.
Mark Dice will be on it right after, but I've got to go to some of your calls.
Here's the deal.
Charlie Sheen's my friend.
Charlie Sheen's always been drug-free when I know him.
Married.
Upstanding.
You know, not even using profanity.
Very pious, focused.
He won a seven-month jag, got wild.
He's off of it now.
Obviously high on endorphins, being totally clean.
That's a side effect of it.
You know, is really being awake and alive.
Media calls it mania.
But, you know, I call it being awake and alive and trying to be totally truthful.
dan friesen
How do you feel about that?
jordan holmes
Sure.
I feel slightly differently about my mania, as does the swath of destruction left behind me.
dan friesen
You don't think it's just being awake and alive?
jordan holmes
I don't know if I've ever thought a tornado was the most awake and alive.
dan friesen
But what if it was violent and truthful?
jordan holmes
Okay, now we're talking about a torpedo.
dan friesen
Oh, not tornado.
That honestly is on me.
I thought you said...
I thought...
I don't know what I thought.
I either thought you said torpedo.
jordan holmes
5-1.
alex jones
Boom!
jordan holmes
Let's go.
Shit!
dan friesen
That's like me playing tennis and hitting the line.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Footfall.
dan friesen
Let me reserve.
jordan holmes
Let's start from the beginning.
unidentified
Dunk.
Sorry.
dan friesen
To end up just staring at you.
jordan holmes
5-2.
dan friesen
So is this the big announcement?
That Charlie is cool?
jordan holmes
No, it can't possibly.
It can't possibly be that Charlie Sheen is clean and also crazy.
dan friesen
And cool.
jordan holmes
And cool.
dan friesen
And Alex's friend.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
No, that's not the big...
jordan holmes
And actually, Alex is cool.
dan friesen
He is pretty cool.
jordan holmes
And Charlie Sheen is cool because he listened to Alex's jokes.
dan friesen
And he wrote his jokes.
jordan holmes
And wrote his jokes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
No, that's not the big announcement.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
There's another announcement.
alex jones
Oh, of course.
I'm on the jet airplane with him.
He came to pick me up three weeks ago.
Flying out to California.
He flew me back to.
And I said, you've got to get a Twitter account.
Instead of just sending stuff through TMZ.
You've got to get a Twitter account.
You've got to get a Twitter account.
We finally did get a Twitter account.
It's almost two million people now in three days.
World record, Guinness Book of World Records.
And I thought to myself, why am I giving advice but then not following my own advice?
We've got a Twitter account for, I don't know, six months or so.
Twitter.com forward slash RealAlexJones.
And I never promote it.
I never hardly use it.
We're going to start sending photos out daily.
I'm going to start giving you sneak peeks of what's coming up.
I'm going to start, because this is a powerful tool where I can be on the ground.
In New York City or anywhere else, a rally or the police are about to arrest me, and I can fire out a Twitter.
So I know how to Twitter.
I send out some Twitters, but I'm going to start sending out a lot of Twitters, and I want to get 100,000 Twitter followers by next Friday.
dan friesen
I know how to Twitter.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
Give me one world in which Alex Jones' fat fucking fingers can fire off a tweet before he's goddamn arrested.
How dare you, Alex Jones?
unidentified
That is the only thing I don't believe about you, sir!
dan friesen
Well, this is 2011 technology, too, right?
unidentified
He's on a flip phone.
dan friesen
So, yeah, the announcement is that Alex is going to get on Twitter.
jordan holmes
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that is a bummer, because in some ways, you know, this might represent the beginning of Twitter brain.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Like him chasing a social media high that was proved by Charlie Sheen being so successful.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's literally, I saw my friend get a million followers, so I want two million because I'm a great friend.
dan friesen
And also, it was my idea that he got on Twitter.
jordan holmes
It was my idea!
So I'm going to take his.
unidentified
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
What a lunatic.
dan friesen
What an anniversary.
Hercules Mulligan.
jordan holmes
Hercules Mulligan.
dan friesen
Thank God he didn't live to see this.
jordan holmes
Man, it really would take a Herculean Mulligan to get Charlie Sheen back.
dan friesen
Or get Alex.
jordan holmes
You know what, everybody?
unidentified
We're just going to call it Live and Let Live.
jordan holmes
Two and a half men is back.
That's the correct response.
dan friesen
For something that is going quite well.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fair amount of jocular boos.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which I appreciate.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
So Alex is going to promote his Twitter.
That's the name of the game.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We've got to get this Twitter out there.
Paul Joseph Watson has written a press release.
There's hissing!
unidentified
I have not heard a hiss.
jordan holmes
I don't think ever on stage before.
It was a delight and also never do that to me, ever.
unidentified
That will hurt my feelings more than anything I can imagine.
dan friesen
Scared of snakes.
jordan holmes
Get hissed at?
unidentified
Goodbye.
dan friesen
Yes.
So, we're doing that promotion.
We're trying to get the word out there about Twitter.
alex jones
So, please.
Twitter.com Real Alex Jones.
We're going to do a Google search term and test the new Google algorithm that's trying to block us getting number one search terms.
We haven't done this in over a week.
I need you to Google Alex Jones Twitter.
Alex Jones Twitter.
A-L-E-X-J-O-N-E-S-T-W-I-T-T-E-R.
dan friesen
Three words.
alex jones
Alex Jones Twitter.
Alex Jones Twitter.
And I want to make that number one to test what Google's doing, but also to get more people on our Twitter account.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that's probably the second reason.
It's probably the reason.
One of the things that Alex built a lot of his career on is gaming the internet.
He, more than many in that field, realized that things like trend data could be manipulated if enough people engaged in it, and he had zero qualms with being really transparent on the show about what he was doing.
At this point, Google search trends were very rudimentary and easy to cheat, so Alex would often go on his show and tell his audience specific terms to Google because that would make these terms appear in other people's suggestions for trending topics.
Essentially, it's free marketing you're getting the audience to do for you, pretending that it's some form of activism.
It strikes me as a little embarrassing to be this naked about it when you're doing your show, but you really can't argue with results.
According to Google Trend data, there was almost no interest in the words Alex Jones Twitter on March 3rd.
And then on March 4th, the number shoots way up.
Of course, it's entirely unsustainable, and that line immediately starts dropping the next day until it's back at almost no interest.
But your hope is that you're creating, you know, these small fire with these trends, and if you do that enough, eventually one of them will catch on big.
The ultimate goal of this is actually just trickery.
You're hoping that the lazy media outlets will see that you appear to be really popular, so they decide to do a story about an artificial trend.
Fun fact, if you consult the Google Trends website, this day in history was the largest peak for the search terms Alex Jones Twitter would ever be.
With two exceptions.
The day he was kicked off Twitter.
jordan holmes
Wow, that makes sense.
That does make sense.
dan friesen
And the day Elon Musk brought him back.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
Those were the two days.
Other than this, it's wild.
Oh, snakes!
Sneaky snakes everywhere!
unidentified
This is going to be a new thing.
jordan holmes
People are going to start hissing everywhere.
dan friesen
Bringing hissing back.
jordan holmes
It's about time.
dan friesen
It's so fun to look at that chart, though, because it's like 2011, huge spike, and then boop, boop, boop, boop.
Long time.
Real, real...
jordan holmes
I think what's fascinating about it is that it is like the three types of Alex Jones fame, which is people are looking for him because he's hated.
People are looking for him because inexplicably he's back.
And people are looking for him because he's begging for you to.
Please, please, please put Alex Jones Twitter into Google.
It's the third highest possible way he can get attention.
dan friesen
And it's not just put it into Google.
It's do it repeatedly.
jordan holmes
Of course!
alex jones
We've dominated, dominated, dominated.
Now we're going to dominate Twitter.
Another salvo in the info war.
Twitter.com forward slash real Alex Jones.
Google search the term Alex Jones Twitter.
We'll be right back.
Help us get that out.
Put it in the Google search box over and over again.
unidentified
Money!
Money!
dan friesen
I mean, honestly, the idea is money!
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean...
dan friesen
We can't argue with results.
jordan holmes
I think he gets a point, so it's 5-2-1 now.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
For playing money.
dan friesen
I am not going to lose this.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So Alex washes the feeling of the Scott from Massachusetts off himself.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Just dumps a pile of I'm great and Charlie Sheen loves me on his face.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And so he decides, I can get back to calls.
I can do that.
unidentified
Sure!
dan friesen
I can do that.
jordan holmes
He's strong enough.
dan friesen
And so he takes a call, and this guy, man, just bums me out.
Just bums me out.
alex jones
Julio in Illinois, you're on the air.
Welcome.
unidentified
Alex Jones, lover of freedom, brother in arms.
Good to talk to you as always.
Quickly, three reasons why we're winning and we've already won.
Winning!
Winning.
Charlie Sheen has that Twitter account, my favorite band, Umphreys McGee.
Everyone all throughout the world are saying winning.
Freedom lovers of Charlie Sheen fans, please show your friends 20 minutes with the president of Charlie Sheen and expose to them why Charlie Sheen is a great friend of 9-11 Truth.
jordan holmes
Can you imagine going to an Umphreys McGee concert and finding the only Nazi?
unidentified
That would not be winning.
dan friesen
I like that people are just unprovoked on info saying, winning!
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Winning!
jordan holmes
Winning!
dan friesen
It's a bummer.
That really bums me out.
jordan holmes
It is sad, not least of which, because Alex cannot stop himself from being like, that's a word I know, winning!
It is a call and response of a child.
dan friesen
And it mirrors the Trump winning layer.
Just all very depressing.
jordan holmes
Oh man, like Gamergate was the first of all now.
Charlie Sheen was the first of Trump.
It's all coming together now.
dan friesen
Did Alex write Trump's jokes?
There's layers to this.
There's layers.
So Alex teased a little bit ago that he was going to have a guest on.
And that is a fellow by the name of Mark Dice.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
I feel like just about any name is probably going to prompt.
Disappointment in hissing.
jordan holmes
It's a bit like a graduation ceremony.
Save your hisses for the end of the list of names.
You're going to get there.
unidentified
We're all gonna get there.
dan friesen
Throwing my hat in the air?
alex jones
Foot fault.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
dan friesen
Here we go.
Mark Dice is coming on.
alex jones
Joining us is Mark Dyes, author of Big Brother, The Orwellian Nightmare Come True.
And I think it's the most powerful book he's ever written.
We carry all of his books at InfoWars.com.
But we've teamed up with Mark when he wanted us to contact us a few months ago with this idea.
In the first three and a half months of its publication, we're going to be the exclusive place to get Big Brother, The Orwellian Nightmare Come True.
It starts shipping about the 21st of this month.
dan friesen
That's pretty exciting.
jordan holmes
Is it?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Not in the least.
jordan holmes
No, not even a little bit.
We're a publishing house now is not an exciting thing to say.
Especially in 2011.
dan friesen
I got a big announcement.
We're on Twitter and also I guess we're an exclusive outlet for books.
So I know that we've talked about Mark Dice in terms of him being an idiot who does man on the street videos that Alex really thinks are news.
But I'm not sure that we've ever gone too much into his deeper backstory.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So among Alex's pack of weirdos, there's very few of them who are as well-documented as who have a career, like a scamming career.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Like Mark.
In the mid-90s, he was engaging in your standard get-rich-quick-online kind of hustles where he started to spread his wings in like 1999 when he began a business called Advanced Memory Concepts.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
This hustle all started back when he was working at a gas station in Burlington, Wisconsin.
Where he would allegedly memorize customers' credit card numbers while ringing them up.
Then use the fact that he'd memorize their number to sell them a book he'd written on how you can have a great super memory.
At least that's the story that he tells.
jordan holmes
That's like the guy who breaks into a bank, like, ah-ha-ha, is just teaching you how to break into your bank.
I'm your new security consultant, thank you very much.
unidentified
Also, I still have your money.
dan friesen
Change your credit card number for sure.
jordan holmes
You should probably do that, because I will steal from you.
dan friesen
Oh, buy this book, or else I know your credit card number.
So either this didn't end up being lucrative enough or Mark got bored and decided to stretch his wings because in 2005 he wrote a book called The Resistance Manifesto under the pen name John Connor because all these dudes think they're the main character in sci-fi movies.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
The book caused shockwaves in the conspiracy world and laid out a very religiously based opposition to the coming New World Order.
Mark wouldn't be revealed to be John Connor for a while, so in the meantime, under his normal name, he also became a pickup artist.
And you...
unidentified
That's fair.
dan friesen
That's fair.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That is a lateral move.
dan friesen
So under this guy's, this persona, he wrote a book called The Book on Dating, Strategies Every Man Should Know.
unidentified
Oh, God.
dan friesen
This is something that I can't overstate.
The man who was pushing a religiously motivated conspiracy manifesto was simultaneously selling a book that he wrote about how to pick up chicks.
So Alex says that he sells all of Mark's books on InfoWars, but I'm not sure if he actually meant the full catalog, like including that pickup artist book.
I was sadly unable to find that title on Alex's store.
jordan holmes
Oh no!
dan friesen
But that doesn't mean I couldn't find it elsewhere!
unidentified
Whoa!
Oh, no!
No!
Whoa!
dan friesen
It's got a chess piece on the cover and everything.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh my god!
dan friesen
Yep.
Yep.
It's not good.
jordan holmes
Trying to sleep with women is trying to defeat them in a fucking war.
dan friesen
He will say repeatedly, it's not about sleeping with women.
Because...
Because he's a bit religious.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
This is about finding a wife.
The day to find a wife is to psychologically terrorize her so much she feels incapable of leaving you.
dan friesen
Right, like this wonderful passage here about how women cannot have male friends.
Yeah, cool, man.
Cool.
Most of this book, if I had to boil it down, is about how if someone tells you that they have a boyfriend, they don't really.
That's what a shocking amount of this book is.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Like, if they're not married, uh-oh.
Maybe you're looking to upgrade.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's pretty bad.
Also, it gave me the delightful line, those who hesitate, masturbate.
unidentified
It's...
dan friesen
I've heard worse.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, you know, there's...
Ah, fuck him.
I don't want to think about him like...
dan friesen
So, you don't?
jordan holmes
Ah, I struck out.
unidentified
I will be right back.
dan friesen
No, I didn't.
So I was going through this, and it's a shit book.
It's pretty bad.
But there are some suggested pickup lines.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
Oh, God.
Okay, let's do this.
dan friesen
You might need to walk around.
jordan holmes
Let's hear these.
Come on, now.
dan friesen
Okay, this is in parentheses.
An idea I got from Seinfeld.
unidentified
No!
jordan holmes
What a coincidence what's happening with Seinfeld today, and he's in Mark Dice's book from ten years ago.
dan friesen
There's a fair amount of stage direction in here, which I will also be reading.
Hi, I'm Mark.
I'm unemployed, and I live with my parents.
Smile and pause for reaction.
But I more than make up for it with personality, and that's what really matters, right?
Pause for reaction.
I'm kidding.
I just wanted to say hello and see what you were up to.
Parentheses.
Or what you girls are up to if it's a group.
And then a new parentheses.
unidentified
Smile.
Smile.
jordan holmes
What are you gals up to?
dan friesen
This is literally just doing a scene from science.
jordan holmes
Basically, yeah.
dan friesen
It's an idea you've got from it.
jordan holmes
That is...
unidentified
That is such a...
dan friesen
So you're not going to adopt that one?
jordan holmes
Man, that's brutal.
What is the average response to that?
What could possibly be the response other than stop, sir?
dan friesen
Mace.
jordan holmes
Go away.
dan friesen
From now on, it should be a loud hiss.
That's right.
That's right.
So you want another one?
jordan holmes
Yes, absolutely.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
At a bar, and then this word is all caps.
unidentified
Immediately!
dan friesen
After you see a guy strike out and walk away from a girl or a group of girls, walk right up to her and say, I guess since he just struck out, I figured I would step up to the plate next to see...
jordan holmes
I'll fuck ya!
unidentified
See...
It also...
dan friesen
It also ends with parentheses, smile.
unidentified
Smile.
Ah!
Who's the stage direction fool?
dan friesen
It's for the person who doesn't realize I should probably smile if I'm talking to people.
jordan holmes
I mean, I suppose if you are treating the idea of meeting women as an aggressive act, it would be wise to remind people to smile.
Because essentially you're treating them like you've got a chessboard on the front just like...
Pause for reaction.
Interesting.
She likes unemployed people.
Lose my job.
dan friesen
I just quit!
jordan holmes
Smile.
dan friesen
Do you like me now?
Parentheses, don't say out loud.
So this one's good if you're trying to pick up someone who's with their mother.
unidentified
Like...
dan friesen
His loss!
You all can hear this important, very important, good advice.
Introduce yourself to the mother or father, whoever she's with, and tell them that their daughter is so beautiful that you would be a failure to the male species if you let this opportunity pass you by without asking her out.
unidentified
I get the...
jordan holmes
Like, I can think of an honest human reaction to that, just being my first thought, just being like, Go!
dan friesen
You mean if you're the parent?
jordan holmes
If I'm anybody!
unidentified
If I'm across the street and I hear half of that, Run!
dan friesen
It's like coming in for a spear tackle.
unidentified
Yes, absolutely.
dan friesen
From across the street.
jordan holmes
I'm John Connor from the future.
unidentified
You gotta go.
No, I...
dan friesen
I promise I'm not going to do this all night.
But I might.
I could.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm at least going to read you one more.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So this is the words.
It starts in media res with the quote.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm curious.
Have you ever been on a blind date?
Girl's answer.
No.
Response.
Well, I know someone who I'd really like to hook you up with and I think you'd hit it off pretty well.
Girl.
Really?
Response.
Yeah.
Pause.
That person is me.
parentheses, smile.
This book, it's something.
But I do love that reveal that always is like, and I know that person because he's me.
unidentified
That dramatic moment is pretty fun.
jordan holmes
Can't argue with that.
dan friesen
This book is trash.
www.markdice.com He does tell you not to use these lines in church.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah!
These aren't church lines.
dan friesen
No, no.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
You don't want to be in church talking to somebody's mom.
dan friesen
I would be a failure of the male species if I...
I would say that there's like 15 different variations of I would be a failure if I didn't ask you out.
It's very sad.
So I got one more.
You guys fine with one more?
jordan holmes
Obviously.
unidentified
Obviously.
dan friesen
Parentheses.
If you're tall, to a tall girl.
unidentified
Shorties need not...
dan friesen
Hey, I'm gonna stand next to you for a minute because talking to all these short girls is causing me to slouch and it's really bad for my posture.
Parentheses.
Smile.
Very important.
Very important.
jordan holmes
Ah, man.
unidentified
I feel like the smile on that one is actually terrifying.
jordan holmes
I hate short people.
dan friesen
This, I mean...
I spent more time than I like to admit reading this.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
I didn't learn much.
Mark Dice is an interesting fella.
So do you feel more equipped to pick up people at a bar?
jordan holmes
Man, that breaks my heart.
It breaks my heart not because there might be somebody who needs it, but because in Mark Dice's mind...
Everybody but Mark Dice needs this.
And that's sad.
Like, this is a man who's like, I don't even need these lines.
I'm so good.
dan friesen
He talks quite a bit about, like, memorizing all of this and, like, practicing it in a mirror.
jordan holmes
Why is this the same as rich dad, poor dad?
But for fucking.
dan friesen
So leaving all of this aside.
That was just a little bit of fun.
This partnership that Alex is announcing with Mark ends up being a really bad, chaotic affair of him selling Mark's books.
According to Mark, Alex didn't pay him for the sales of his book.
And quote, when I called and asked for the check, he, meaning Alex, flipped out and told me to fuck off.
This led to a period where Mark was talking mad shit about Alex, putting out videos calling Alex a, quote, conspiracy shock jock and said that Alex would, quote, hype things up I knew weren't accurate and sensationalize half-truths and misunderstandings.
jordan holmes
Parentheses.
unidentified
Smile.
Smile.
dan friesen
It was pretty ugly for a bit, and Mark claimed that he'd seen behind the facade, but naturally that didn't stick, and before too long, all of these revelations that Mark had about how Alex was running a multi-level marketing operation and how everything was sensationalized, it all went away.
I guess you just, you know, the Twitter worked.
jordan holmes
Maybe actually Alex just showed him, like, you sold four books, dude.
I would have given you a check, but it's a bill.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Best seller.
I do worry that me buying that would cause a noticeable blip.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Like he got a direct email to his phone like, holy shit, somebody did it!
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
I know that it's probably irrational, but I do think that happened.
jordan holmes
I kind of do, too.
I think he seems like the type who would be...
dan friesen
So Mark is on.
He's talking about this new book that I don't care about because it's not that one.
jordan holmes
This is the only book that I've ever cared about now.
dan friesen
He is also on a little bit of a campaign against Facebook.
which, fine.
unidentified
Yeah.
Well, let's start off with Facebook Defriend Day.
There's a whole section in the book about Facebook.
And again, much of this audience may be familiar with this.
So this is for the masses.
This is for the people that aren't aware of these issues or maybe the people that are just starting to care about what's going on.
And so we're announcing Facebook Defriend Day.
Just time to step back and think about the social implications of Facebook.
People, there are police that are going on Facebook pages and arresting students for underage drinking using the photos that they've posted as the evidence.
So just imagine the police are going on Facebook pages, finding photos of students, and then tracking them down and arresting them for underage drinking.
This is Big Brother.
dan friesen
I mean, it is a little crazy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's nice.
dan friesen
That did happen to somebody that I heard about.
Sure.
It was pretty wild.
But it was because they had a party that got out of control.
The photos from Facebook were just used against them.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
It's not like the police were looking on Facebook, scrolling through, like, oh my god, there's someone with a can of beer.
jordan holmes
We've got a dedicated officer of looking at underage children's Facebook pages.
unidentified
Yeah, that's going to go well.
We hired a real weirdo for that one.
Whoops.
So, it's interesting because...
dan friesen
I didn't stop it, but I appreciate it.
I think that Facebook defriend day and being against Facebook, great.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Except, I mean, you're really just trying to get publicity for yourself.
Well, there is that.
So that's kind of how this goes.
alex jones
I think the best search term is just Defriend Day.
D-E-F-R-I-E-N-D Day.
Two words into Google over and over again.
Let's hit them.
Let's hit them hard, folks.
You've got so much power if you take action.
Defriend Day.
Put it in Google right now.
Google bomb them.
dan friesen
You've got to Google it.
Google bomb them.
So everything is a fucking Google bomb.
jordan holmes
I mean, how many Google bombs can one conceivably do in a day?
dan friesen
I mean, how many times can a person Google?
It's a philosophical question.
jordan holmes
That is a philosophical question.
If a million monkeys Google...
Never mind.
I don't know how that's going to end.
I was like, this will probably go somewhere wrong.
dan friesen
They'll eventually create a banana search engine.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't know what that means.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I like Donkey Kong Country.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Scott from Mass!
dan friesen
So, we got a lot of attention-driven things going on here.
We got Alex Jones Twitter.
You gotta Google that.
You gotta Google DeFriend Day.
And now, Mark wants everyone to call Sean Hannity.
He's just trying to get everyone to bother everyone.
And then Alex makes...
A terrifying realization.
unidentified
Today, I'd like to launch Phone Mob Friday.
I'd like everybody to phone mob Sean Hannity.
I think it's fun.
It's the way that everybody, with one phone call, you can speak to hundreds of thousands of people, maybe millions.
I'm not sure what the audience is.
alex jones
I'm going to interrupt you because we've got an emergency right here.
I just searched DeFriend Day, Mark.
I didn't know that had already been done last year.
By other people, so it's going to send traffic to a place that makes no sense.
Stop putting Defriend Day in, folks.
You've got to put in DefriendDayInfowars.com.
Three words, DefriendDayInfowars.com, or they will not go to the Mark Dice exclusive article.
So, the two search terms are Alex Jones Twitter.
That's one.
Put those in over and over again.
But put in...
DefriendDayInfoWars.com.
Those three words.
DefriendDayInfoWars.com.
Put it in over and over again.
We cannot fail.
We kind of false started on that.
dan friesen
Yep.
Messed up a little bit.
This is something that someone else already fucking did.
And we can't exploit it if the traffic goes to them.
unidentified
That just makes me so happy.
jordan holmes
We've got an emergency.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
jordan holmes
Someone's had this very obvious idea.
dan friesen
Thank God he tried to look for it.
I mean, otherwise they might have completely fucked up on this one.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
That's just beautiful.
That's just beautiful.
dan friesen
So, Mark got everyone off Facebook.
That was successful.
jordan holmes
They did it, yeah.
dan friesen
Or they drove a slight amount of traffic to enforce.
jordan holmes
Right, and then eventually everybody did get back on Facebook to share more anti-Semitic memes with each other.
dan friesen
And Alex had like 30 accounts or something when he got kicked off.
So Mark comes and goes.
He does his business, and thank God he did, so I could share some wonderful pickup lines in a room full of people who were hissing at me.
I kind of know how he must have felt.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's kind of an artificial recreation.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like any pickup line.
It's a roll of the dice.
unidentified
Hey!
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
jordan holmes
smile.
Hold on, let me write that in the fucking book.
Mark Dice Clay to Mark...
Oh, everybody.
Yeah.
unidentified
Sorry.
dan friesen
That's all right.
So we got Mark.
He comes and goes.
And now we get another championship weirdo.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
He is an old feller.
He is Bob Chapman.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He comes on to, obviously, to sell gold.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
He's there to try and get Ted Anderson and Midas Resources gold out the door.
unidentified
Of course.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And so he has some shocking predictions.
jordan holmes
Okay.
bob chapman
I think the way that they're going to do this, I've spoken of this on the program many times before.
I think they're going to have a meeting.
They're going to revalue and devalue currencies against each other.
They will have multilateral default.
What percentages, I don't know.
alex jones
So coordinating default with the G20 has been saying for two years.
bob chapman
Yes.
And my guess is it'll vary from currency to currency or country to country.
The U.S., I'm looking for a two-thirds evaluation.
In other words, you'll have 30 cents in each dollar that you've got.
But I think that there's a good chance that they may use the dollar again.
And once that default and devaluation is in place, they would have the dollar back 25% by gold, where the gold would come from.
They either have it or they can borrow it.
And they would use that again.
I'm just telling people, don't discount that, but it'll be a dollar, which will not be like the same that we have now.
It'll be a great deal less valuable than it is.
today.
unidentified
So that's, I think, the way I think they're going to go with this.
bob chapman
Timing, seeing that they're making these kinds of announcements, war will come over the next several months.
They may try this before the end of the year.
dan friesen
Whoa, whoa.
Shocking.
jordan holmes
That is a, I mean, really a bold prediction is to say a small group of people will destroy the entire global economy in order to raise gold by 25%.
That is a pretty bold prediction.
dan friesen
And you will need to buy that gold now.
jordan holmes
You're going to have to buy that gold, otherwise you're fucked.
dan friesen
And I know just the guy.
There are a bunch of times that it's like, Alex is like, oh yeah, Ted's got a great special going.
How's that special sound, Bob?
So good.
jordan holmes
So good!
Because the entire world economy is going to crash and then you're going to need that gold.
It's such a crazy idea that there would also be a special simultaneously.
It's almost suspicious.
dan friesen
Ted does come in at the end with some pretty killer specials.
jordan holmes
Oh, does he?
dan friesen
Wild.
So this episode is so Twitter-ish.
And it's nuts, because if you go back in time to listen to these episodes, it's not the same as in the present day.
There's just this obsession with Twitter, and everything is turned into this.
But it's not like that all the time in 2011.
And then Charlie Sheen got a million followers, and Alex lost his fucking mind.
Maybe it didn't last his obsession with Twitter constantly, but this day is just...
It is Twitter.
He's taking questions from Twitter.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
alex jones
I've got a few questions here, though, that came in off of Twitter.
Several for Bob Chapman, a whole bunch for me.
It goes on to say, Alex, what is your favorite anti-tyranny quote?
JBYRD Street asked that question.
It'd have to be, I have sworn on the...
Altar of God.
Eternal resistance against every form of tyranny over the mind of men.
Thomas Jefferson.
In fact, guys, can you cue up that liner?
I think we had it dry just with Thomas Jefferson because I think I paraphrased it a bit there.
While they're getting that cued up, Bob, we have a couple questions here for you.
Bob Chapman, they asked the question.
It was actually HMHMAA asked me about my favorite quote.
It was Jaybird Street that asked Bob Chapman, how would you hold gold or silver?
Proofs, uncirculated, or bars?
dan friesen
Oh, what a shock.
The question for Bob is, should I buy gold?
Yeah, and of course this weaves eventually to also Ted's got some great gold that you should buy.
jordan holmes
What type and how much gold should I buy, sir?
dan friesen
All of it and from Ted.
jordan holmes
What a great idea!
Amazing that you would have this for me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex's choice for a tyranny quote?
jordan holmes
If Thomas Jefferson said that, I'm gonna be real mad.
unidentified
He did.
jordan holmes
He did.
dan friesen
That one's a real one.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
That's very frustrating.
I'm fine with that.
Fuck TJ!
dan friesen
I can't tell if that was a fuck Thomas Jefferson or if it was a fuck that it's a real quote.
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
We are all so disappointed!
dan friesen
I think it's so fun when something's fake.
Like a fake quote.
jordan holmes
It is so fun.
dan friesen
And it's a delight to be able to reveal that.
jordan holmes
And it's so frequent that you almost expect it.
It's like if you see somebody holding a donut about to hand it to you and then it turns out to not be cake.
I don't know what that show is about!
dan friesen
So this is a fun quote, though.
It is real, but it comes from a series of letters between Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Rush.
In the letter that precedes this one, Rush had sort of indicated a wish to combine religion and government, saying, quote, It is only necessary for republicanism to ally itself with the Christian religion to overturn all the corrupted political and religious institutions in the world.
The Jefferson quote Alex is citing comes from his response to this letter where Jefferson is very clearly rejecting this idea.
The full context of the quote is, quote, the clause of the Constitution, which, while it secured the freedom of the press, covered also the freedom of religion, had given to the clergy a very favorable hope of obtaining an establishment of a particular form of Christianity throughout the United States, and as every sect believes its own form, the true one, everyone perhaps hoped for its own, but especially the Episcopalians and Congregationalists.
The returning good sense of our country threatens abortion of their hopes, and they believe any position of power confided in me will be exerted in opposition of their schemes, and they believe truly.
For I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.
So that's the context that quote comes in.
jordan holmes
Is it true that essentially Thomas Jefferson is arguing that the First Amendment is almost entirely because Episcopalians wouldn't shut the fuck up?
Is that what we're going to be?
dan friesen
It's an interesting reading.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying.
It feels like he was like, God damn it.
Fine.
We're putting religion in there.
dan friesen
You should make a musical about this.
Maybe a rap musical?
jordan holmes
Could be troublesome for me.
dan friesen
So Alex and Bob, they take some calls.
I mean, you only really need to ask Bob one question from Twitter.
jordan holmes
How much gold should I buy?
dan friesen
Booyah!
Where'd that come from?
Love it.
So Alex takes a call, and it's from a guy who's a little bit confrontational.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
With Alex.
And it's pretty funny.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Aaron in Nevada.
We're on the air with Bob Shatman.
Hey, thank you very much.
This is Go Not Radio calling again.
Thank you very much, Bob.
Listen to what Bob said.
unidentified
When he answered your question, he said demonstrate.
And I think that's what we've got to do, and you've been kind of shying away from that.
Second thing I want to say is.
alex jones
Excuse me?
I haven't been against demonstrating.
No, hold on.
When did I say don't demonstrate?
unidentified
I've called you before and you say you don't want to organize.
Take your Infowar listeners and put them in the street.
alex jones
Listen, I appreciate your call, sir.
I had Max Keiser on saying demonstrate yesterday.
I have Bob Chapman saying it.
I tell people go out and get in the street and be active.
And it's not that I don't mind being criticized, but why is it never legitimate?
Okay?
I mean, I'm working 18 hours a day sometimes.
I'm trying.
I can't do everything.
I can't lead.
I'm not all powerful.
Don't you understand that?
Bob Chapman, do you have any comments to what Aaron just said?
bob chapman
Well, I think Aaron is in a position where he would like to see things happen more quickly.
And I can understand that.
But there's a time to do everything.
And we're getting close to the time for major demonstrations.
Particularly with what just the TSA is doing.
alex jones
But I've been leading those.
unidentified
I mean, I never can do enough.
alex jones
I mean, I'm not going to do this, but maybe you'd be happier if I just quit, because I'm so bad that I worked so hard.
dan friesen
I'm the problem.
alex jones
I'm the evil.
Not the Federal Reserve.
Not the New World Order.
It's all my fault, Bob.
bob chapman
Of course not.
And you know that.
dan friesen
Of course not, Alex.
It's not your fault.
jordan holmes
What is the time from I don't mind criticism to I'll just quit?
dan friesen
Fuck all of you!
I can't do everything!
jordan holmes
Is that 30 seconds?
Listen, I don't mind it when people criticize me.
It's no big deal.
I don't particularly care if people say that my hair looks bad.
unidentified
Fuck all of you!
I'm leaving!
dan friesen
Never again!
Bob, tell me I'm cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Bob, what are your thoughts on that guy telling me I stink?
dan friesen
You know you're great.
Thanks, Bob.
Bye, gold.
unidentified
Michael, yeah!
dan friesen
He's all I think that this is fascinating, because not only do, in this single episode, we have Alex prophesying that a podcast with 15 listeners would critique him.
We have...
unidentified
Can't not.
dan friesen
For the live audience, New Dune coming out soon.
jordan holmes
New Dune coming!
dan friesen
So we have that crazy nonsense.
We have this present-day obsession with Twitter kind of being felt.
And then we also have Alex being a little baby and saying he's going to quit.
Which you don't see all the time in the past.
jordan holmes
This is a really...
dan friesen
2011, I'm just going to fucking quit?
That's a rare...
jordan holmes
That is nice.
On such little bullshit, too.
It is not enough.
dan friesen
It is not enough to threaten quitting.
Why don't you tell people to demonstrate?
I do.
All right.
unidentified
Yep.
Could have ended there.
Could have ended there.
Proceed to break down.
dan friesen
So, we have one last clip here, folks.
jordan holmes
You've all been standing for so long.
I'm surprised.
I'm surprised we're getting hisses and not cheers.
unidentified
Thank God!
dan friesen
Alright, message sent.
unidentified
Here we go!
jordan holmes
What do we got?
unidentified
What do we got?
dan friesen
I sort of referenced this a little bit earlier about Mark saying not to use these lines on people at church.
jordan holmes
Are these the ones you can use on people at church?
dan friesen
No, this is a personal anecdote.
Buckle up.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Here we go.
dan friesen
One time I thought it'd be really cool and I ran one of my opening lines by a girl in the church.
It didn't exactly go over too well.
jordan holmes
Which one?
dan friesen
This was when I was still working the bugs out of my approaches.
The next week the pastor asked me to come into his office and he...
unidentified
And he had a talk with me.
dan friesen
Apparently the girl had told him what I had done and it wasn't even outrageous or even borderline risky, I had thought.
I was a little embarrassed to say the least.
This isn't the place for that, I can still remember him saying.
unidentified
Oh my god.
dan friesen
So yeah, it's speaking from experience that you don't want to try these at church.
There are not any in here.
There's not...
Here's what you do, alright?
jordan holmes
I'll give it to you, okay.
Tall man to parents of 14 year old.
I'm sorry?
I'm sorry, what was that?
Alright.
dan friesen
The book does end with just a whole selection of stray thoughts.
And most of them are like, it doesn't matter if she has a boyfriend.
It's almost like he's just repeating that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
It's a mantra at the end.
There were not a lot of editors involved in this book.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think so.
I don't think there were a lot of looks over it.
dan friesen
Was this put...
Oh, self-published.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
It's hard to believe.
Also, I should say this.
I mean, if you look through this...
The entire book is not laid out in chapters.
It's a couple of paragraphs with a header throughout the entire thing.
It's like there's a header and they're not connected at all.
It's just like random musings.
It's painful.
jordan holmes
It is a man who wrote it down and never looked back.
dan friesen
Well, he wanted to help people.
Yes, indeed.
unidentified
Indeed.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex just got that call that made him break down a little bit and threatened to quit.
And that's where the show's supposed to end.
He's running out of time.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
For the show.
And so he complains a little bit and makes an executive decision.
alex jones
It's always this moral judgment.
They call in and tell me how I did something wrong and they're better than me and that's their big coat of arms in life is that they showed the big Alex Jones and it doesn't hurt me that they're attacking myself.
It hurts me for them.
I'm like, you know, tell me why I'm not saying take action.
What are you talking about?
We're all about action.
It's Action Jackson.
unidentified
You know what?
alex jones
I'm going to Overdrive five minutes, Bob.
Stay with us because I want to go to...
I don't want to end on that caller.
I'm going to go to Frank, Chris, and Wolf on the other side.
dan friesen
Fuck yeah.
You say I don't do action.
I'm Action Jackson.
I cannot end the show with that bad taste in my mouth.
We're doing five more minutes.
But the rest of the five minutes that he does in Overdrive is trash.
It's unfortunate because that would have been a nice like, no, I can't end on this note.
There actually being some sort of a triumph or anything, but there's not.
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
It reminds me of our comic friend from the old days who would try his closer and it wouldn't go anywhere.
And they'd be like, okay, I'll do one more.
And then he'd get one and he'd get a huge laugh.
And then, because he was an addict, he'd be like, well, I can do one more.
And it wouldn't go.
dan friesen
I knew exactly who you were talking about as soon as you said they'd try their closer and it wouldn't work.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Oh, good times.
Good times.
jordan holmes
Good times.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, how do you feel about what we've experienced here today?
jordan holmes
I feel like...
dan friesen
I mean, not with all these fine people.
That's all great and wonderful.
jordan holmes
I...
I truly feel that there's something about Mark Dice that suggests caging people wouldn't be too bad.
Like at a certain age, maybe we keep all men between 15 and 25 in like pens, you know?
And then we can slowly educate them so they can enter the real world.
Where you can't go with tall man to tall woman.
dan friesen
We tall.
jordan holmes
Be taller.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
We are so tall.
Fuck these short people.
jordan holmes
We hate short people.
dan friesen
Are you my wife?
jordan holmes
This is the man who's figured out the bugs.
dan friesen
Think about how many more books we would have like this if your plan of caging...
jordan holmes
We gotta Google bomb it!
dan friesen
Do not buy this book.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I don't think there's enough copies for...
But, also, I'm embarrassed to say I paid full price for that book.
I know.
I know.
I deserve that.
jordan holmes
Listen, fair is fair in commerce.
One must render unto Caesar what is Mark Dice's.
dan friesen
And, I mean, what are the odds I'm going to go to, like, a second-hand bookstore and find that bullshit?
Odds aren't high.
jordan holmes
And the problem would be if the odds do hit, you're probably in for a lot more problems as well.
Like, oh, this is the second-hand bookstore that keeps this.
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Oh, my God!
jordan holmes
What else do they keep?
unidentified
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
It's the Necronomicon!
unidentified
They have fake books here.
jordan holmes
Self-published.
dan friesen
So, we come to the end of this and we got Alex's beginning of his road on Twitter.
unidentified
Yeah, amazing.
dan friesen
What a day, brought to you by Hercules Mulligan deciding to die on that day.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan holmes
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much!
unidentified
Thank you!
You've been wonderful!
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