In this installment, Dan and Jordan dip back to the past to experience Alex interviewing a guy who runs a bar in Spain who has a plan to offer microchips as VIP membership cards. This results in the most bone-chilling and sinster interview Alex has ever conducted.
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And I put out two posts on it and then had a little bit of a hurdle, a little medical condition that limited my ability to expand into other side projects and such.
And then also I had a very terrible situation.
So that sub stack is largely taking Alex's emails and stuff and discussing editorial decisions and things that you can learn from them.
I had been going over all of these thousands and thousands of emails and making notes on them and stuff, and then my computer crashed and I lost that document.
So this has to do with a battle that broke out in Ramadi on April 6th, and in the first day of fighting, 12 U.S. soldiers were killed.
The thing is that even in the Sky News article, the reporter David Chatter is quoted as saying, quote, none of this is official yet, none of this is confirmed, which should be a cause to take the numbers that are being cited with a grain of salt.
He takes the unconfirmed numbers as concrete and then accuses the other media outlets of not covering the story.
In reality, other U.S. mainstream media outlets covered this battle, and with the gift of hindsight, they were much more accurate.
CNN reported, quote, as many as a dozen U.S. Marines were killed Tuesday in heavy fighting in the western Iraq town of Ramadi.
The Washington Post had an article about it, as did the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times.
The Chicago Tribune covered the story saying, quote, about a dozen U.S. Marines were killed Tuesday as fighting across Iraq intensified.
They said about a dozen because all told, the fatalities included these 12 marines, another U.S. soldier, and one coalition soldier from Ukraine.
I was trying to figure out where this 130 number could have come from, and the best guess that I have is that it was a mistake on the part of the Sky News reporter.
The Chicago Tribune article includes a figure that 130 Iraqis had died since fighting broke out that Sunday, which I have a suspicion is what is being confused by the Sky News article and then reported by Alex.
I'm not sure, that's just my best guess, but whatever the case is for what happened, it appears that this unconfirmed figure was inaccurate, but may actually reflect the death toll Yeah.
This highlights an important feature of Alex's news philosophy, though.
Here you can see him finding something a bit speculative that works pretty well for his narratives.
Instead of recognizing the speculative nature of the story, he treats it as rock solid.
And not only that, the rest of the media refuses to even cover the story.
It's incredibly important for Alex to present the rest of the media as covering up all the truths that he relays to the audience, because those same media outlets often report out information that debunks his narratives.
So nothing they say should be taken seriously.
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Except for when Alex needs to use them as, like, even major media sponsorships.
We're going to get them on the show, the owner of the number one bar disco in Madrid, Spain, where to get into the VIP section, you've got to take a microchip.
And they're doing it right now.
And how many times did I tell you?
It's going to be a status symbol.
Your teenage children, within just a few years, will be demanding that they get the chip.
They will run out to the so-called tattoo parlors that are now being signed on by Verichip.
It'll be a counterculture thing sold to you directly by the military industrial complex.
And there's now a bus here in the U.S. Embedded microchip seller Verichip announces Chipmobile is on the move.
Watch for the Chipmobile coming to your town or neighborhood.
Like the ice cream truck, children lining up for their chips.
If anyone is trying to get making chips seem cool in 2024, it's his good buddy Elon Musk, and Alex is not criticizing him about that.
He's spending his time on air pretending that Musk is purely using his Neuralink chips to treat disabilities because covering it that way allows the audience to pretend that Musk isn't doing the exact shit Alex has claimed the globalists are trying to do for decades.
Anyway, this is about a club in Barcelona, not Madrid, and it's called the Baja Beach Club.
The owners decided that it would be a good idea to offer the option to people to get a chip implant that would serve as their VIP membership card, although they could still opt for a non-chip membership if they preferred.
The thinking was that people were going to go to a dance club and they didn't want to worry about having a purse or wallet that could be stolen, and that having a digital membership you could use to buy drinks would be really convenient.
One guy who got the chip was interviewed and he summed up the appeal saying, quote, you don't need money in your pockets and you can't lose it either when you are jumping.
By 2008, they'd abandoned the chip program entirely.
So this company, Verichip, did operate what they called a chipmobile, but it wasn't like an ice cream truck.
It went to senior citizen centers and offered the chips to Alzheimer's patients.
There were a bunch of articles in, like, 2002 about the Chipmobile providing chips for eight people and how that technology could be really helpful in situations where disoriented patients arrive at a hospital and may not be able to provide staff with important details, like who they are or what they might be allergic to.
Yeah, I mean, every time I've seen a pet go to a vet and they just scan the chip and they've got everything, I've been like, yeah, let's just chip people.
We've been talking about the global mood to making an implantable radio frequency identification microchip to be the global identification system.
And I talked about how it's...
Something we'll first see in VIP circles.
And we are honored to be joined by Conrad Chase, the director of the Baja Beach Disco Bars that's in several European countries, and then it's the top-of-the-line club system.
So right off the bat, Alex is introducing the theme of this interview.
The globalists are trying to make you get an RFID chip, and their plan is to make it seem cool.
His interview subject, Conrad Chase, is the owner of a bar that's offering microchips for VIPs, which is supposed to be the exact thing the globalists would do.
He's saying that the special people get chips.
Conrad doesn't realize at this point, but that's the accusation that's running underneath this entire interview.
Well, we just opened our new VIP lounge here on the 25th.
We had the inauguration of our VIP lounge, and I wanted to have something very unique that no other club had, and we were able to achieve that with the VIP chip.
It's definitely going to be done in my club in Holland, and I will be opening soon in Cologne, Germany, another Baja Beach club.
And the...
The England, the clubs in Britain are actually a franchise, so I haven't had the opportunity to speak with them yet to find out whether they are interested or not, but I'm quite sure that this concept is really growing and I'm quite sure that they'll be interested soon.
So Conrad probably thinks that's a perfectly innocent question that someone with interest in doing a promotional interview might ask, but...
It's actually Alex grilling this guy.
These questions are being delivered with all the fake respect Alex can muster and designed to elicit responses that Alex can incorporate into the narrative that he's building.
For instance, this question was fishing for a response that the chip plan was going to be incorporated in all these other clubs, particularly the ones of the United States, so Alex could claim that the globalists are doing a trial run in Barcelona, but their main plan is to bring it here so they can chip all of his patriot buddies.
Conrad doesn't realize it, but Alex is asking him set-up questions, which explains why he's being so pleasant.
He doesn't want to raise any alarm bells and get this fish off the hook.
Well, we did that actually on a Thursday night at 2 o 'clock in the morning while the club was open and performed it right here in the club, in the VIP lounge.
And I had a doctor come to perform the procedure.
It can be performed by any licensed nurse who is certified or is trained in...
It's a simple injection, really, really simple, straightforward.
They do use a small needle to put a small anesthesia in first, and then they put the chip in, and it's not painful at all because of the local anesthetic.
In the real world, Conrad was on season six of the Spanish version of Big Brother, but that wouldn't end up being until September 2004, which is months after this.
The way Big Brother works is that the show is being filmed as it's airing, because audience votes end up altering various aspects of the game, and in the Spanish version, the audience actually voted who to evict from the house.
It seems to me that the only way that this could work is that some people who work on the show were going to get a chip to become VIPs as part of a video package that Conrad would, about him, that would play at the start of the season to flesh out his character.
Because it couldn't have been other contestants getting chipped since it's months before that season started, and it's months after the previous season had ended.
So there's just no way unless this was like a video package that they were filming because he was going to be on the next season.
Anyway, this interview goes on towards other subjects.
And I think that if I were Conrad at a certain point, I would start to realize, like, man, he's asking a fair amount of questions that aren't about my bar and aren't about this VIP program.
Yes, Alex, that's very interesting what they're doing.
It's really a great idea because the policemen that will be using it, they will have the chip implanted in their firing hand, right between the thumb and forefinger.
And that will actually provide a means of allowing the pistol to function.
If somebody were to steal the pistol from them, it does them no good.
It cannot fire unless you've got the proper chip in the hand.
Conrad's a guy who manages this bar in Barcelona who's trying to whip up press for his new VIP lounge.
But he also seems to be pretty into the microchip technology personally.
He seems to be a fan.
But I'm left wondering why it matters that he thinks it's a good idea to have chips for people to use guns.
This man lives in Spain and has no legitimate impact on legislation there or in the United States.
This is something that Alex can disagree with him about, but I struggle to see how this is meaningful.
But this is an instance where Alex is asking these baiting questions and he got exactly the answer he was looking for.
He doesn't respond to this with anger or even comment after Conrad answers because it went perfectly.
This guy who's running a microchip program to make chipping look cool wants you to have to get a chip to get a gun.
Alex has something he can work with here, but things aren't really where they need to be because this is still just a guy who runs a bar.
We need to elevate him somehow, which will be the next major challenge Alex has to face in this presentation that he's putting forth with this interview.
Well, I mean, I think the obvious thing is that the bar owner gets the famous people, the famous people get the chips, the famous people make regular people want to get the chips, etc.
The place of reality intersection is like, okay, you can grill him about the impact that making it look cool to get a chip has, I guess.
But when you're trying to branch it off into all of these other microchip conspiracies, you kind of need to make him more than just a guy who runs a bar.
ADS was preparing to declare bankruptcy, but IBM decided they could just pay back $30 million of the loan, and then they would call it even, as opposed to them just going out of business.
Also, just because something is produced in China, that does not mean that the Chinese government is a part owner of the company.
What I think is really interesting there is the dynamic that plays out over the course of this clip.
Alex directly asserts that IBM owns Verichip, but he wasn't expecting that Conrad would know the company that actually owns them.
Because Conrad pushes back, Alex has to retreat from his firm assertion that IBM owns the company to some vague ideas about boards and creditors.
This is how Alex is with all of his information.
He has very strong statements that he makes about his shit because he knows that most of the time no one will actually know anything about what he's talking about.
In those instances...
runs into someone with actual knowledge about the thing he's talking about, he crumbles.
And he has to severely hedge the strong statements he started off with.
And part of the reason he crumbles is because he's not looking to have an argument with Conrad at all.
Alex is doing this interview and saying the things he's saying with a wink to the audience.
He's playing to them, and Conrad's a prop in this.
It doesn't serve anyone's interest to argue about whether or not IBM owns the company.
So Alex is asking if the dancing girls are getting chipped because he's fishing for things that would make getting chipped sexier to the general public.
Also, I'm not sure if there are dancing girls at this club, the way Alex is suggesting it.
It's interesting to hear that he's chipped three customers and there are six lined up because that's pretty close to all of the customers that he would have signed up by the end of the year, according to an analysis done by researchers from the University of Wollongong.
On the other hand, though, it does make sense that he would know a lot about the chip because this is 2004 and you're getting a chip implanted into your body, right?
Like, even now in 2024, the most famous rich person alive is...
Telling people that I'm going to put computer chips inside of you, and people are understandably, for the most part, reasonably concerned.
The best I can tell is he's actually very interested in this technology, and that's why he chose it to be the big PR stunt that they're doing to open this VIP lounge.
The chip costs €125, but what we do is we, the person would pay the €125 for the chip, and then they automatically receive €100 credit on their balance to be put towards purchases in the club.
If Alex stayed within a certain range, you can't see him coming.
What in the world?
There's no way you see a guy like Alex coming if you're a bar owner in Barcelona who's just chipping people because you got super interested in the chip technology.
I'm reading some quotes, some of the things you said.
Did you say, quote, the chip will prevail in the future because in those times the people will use it as cash and getting rid of the need for a credit card?
I think that the first stage of microchipping of people has reached our country.
This is being launched to appeal to young people in the first place.
I think Alex was even surprised that this dude just said the chipping might prevent wars.
That's almost too perfect for what Alex is on the hunt for.
This question is meant to further the idea that Conrad is in on the conspiracy to trick young people into getting chipped as part of something bigger and more sinister.
That's pretty ridiculous, and his answer is right in line with what he is.
This guy who manages a bar who's made a plan to differentiate himself from the crowd with early adoption of what he thinks is going to be the next big tech thing.
He's wrong, but Alex is very clearly asking about this quote to twist his words.
When he says it's going to prevail, you get the sense that he means as a payment option or something.
It's not like everyone is going to be using it, but it'll prevail in the market.
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Alex is dancing around the subject because he has to know that if he were to just say, hey, I think your VIP chip thing is a critical piece of the international system, And then what do you do?
Yeah, what I find so interesting about all of this Mark of the Beast shit and all of these ideas and all that stuff is ultimately, like, if you go back and then kind of just trace the broad strokes, when cell phones became so ubiquitous that everyone had one...
It made perfect sense to turn all of those conveniences into just stuff that you could add on or make the phone do.
And that you have your phone with you more often than 98% of the time to the point where the metadata that your phone carries knows where you are at all times.
It's like everything that they've dreamt was inevitable being chipped to your body just became inevitable by...
But his answer there when Alex asks about the future, that's marketing.
That's not a sincere answer, and the demand at Barcelona Club is clearly lower than what he's telling Alex, saying he's flooded with requests.
This is, in essence, a perfect setup for Alex, because in order for Conrad to pursue his goals of promoting the club, he has to make getting the chip seem like an appealing prospect, which is actually exactly what Alex is saying the globalists want him to do.
But his actions pursuing his own wants are indistinguishable.
Distinguishable from what a globalist would do pursuing the wants that Alex is describing.
But foreseeing a future where you need to be chipped to enter a club would require you to imagine a future where clubs are not market-driven businesses anymore.
When you're running a service business, you want to do whatever you can to limit the barriers to customers spending money at your establishment.
That's why a lot of bars are lax on carting people, because if you're loose on that, you take a risk, but you expand your pool of potential customers.
If we had a world where you needed to be chipped to get into a club, you're putting an unnecessary restriction on who can give you money.
The only way a business would go for that is if they were forced by the club.
the government, which if that's the case, then getting into a bar is the least of your worries in that scenario.
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That's not going to happen unless everything has changed.
I don't know, though, sir, if you can really compare those two, but certainly I can see that young people are going to be more open-minded and are going to be embracing this, and I've seen that.
So now, in order to further this goal of making Conrad a more important cog within the machine, Alex brings him up again this idea of, like, you're working with Verichip.
So here is where Alex is making his move to make Conrad more important than just a guy who runs a bar.
Now we're getting the insinuation that Verichip is trying to to implement a world ID, and Conrad is more or less a front man working with them to make it look cool.
It seems like he's a guy who believes in the potential of this technology, and of course Verichip executives would want to pursue a gigantic business application of their tech, like for identification purposes.
Yeah.
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The idea of a global ID based on this is a bit too ambitious, but having a contract with a government agency?
But in reality, Alex is asking him, do you have any secret conspiracy conversations with Verichip about how they're going to force me to get the mark of the beast?
This would be a great guy to use if you're an evil corporation, but I just don't feel like there's any way for you to get this guy to really be evil about something that he likes.
That's where I see one of the largest advantages of this, to be put in the military.
I served in the military myself, and I know in the indoctrination process, you run through before boot camp, and you get your shots, and I can see this very easily being implanted in each soldier as they run through the indoctrination process.
And instead of carrying dog tags, which was always a problem, your dog tags would get lost or stolen.
You know, having that information, if you're, let's say, an Alzheimer's patient who doesn't remember things when you show up in the hospital, it's there when you need it.
No, no, no, I understand, but I mean, if you, there's no way that anybody could ask me to, like, hey, could you say a slogan for me without me being like, any slogan anybody uses ever is evil for some reason.
As you said, you talked to Mr. Bolton, and the government's pushing this.
And, you know, people talk about Germany with the papers, please, and this tracking and this controlling and having it to buy and sell.
You think that's coming?
I mean, you know, you said the TV show Big Brother is coming out to interview you.
I mean, this is Big Brother, and this is a total control grid that's being put in, and I see it being pushed as a VIP thing so that the youth all go out and get it.
Yeah, I think it's the technology that's there, and I'm a strong believer in taking advantage of the technology at hand.
There are a great deal of advantages in using the technology, and I think people need to get over their fears, like I used before, the chicken little fears.
The Founding Fathers said, don't trust government, limit its size, have liberty, have a Bill of Rights, and you're saying you're not worried about that?
So this guy doesn't seem to get that Alex is now just directly saying to him, I'm accusing you of doing PR work for the Mark of the Beast that will enslave all of the world's free people.
He's too busy living in reality, where there's a concern about this kind of technology, but he takes the optimistic view, where businesses and government should be trusted and the prospects of this technology outweigh its risks.
He seems to think that that's the kind of conversation he's having, but he's very wrong.
I think Conrad seems very naive, both in how he's dealing with this interview and how he's viewing the idea of this technology being used harmlessly for everyone's benefit.
Alex is wrong on the other side of it, but that doesn't mean that I agree with Conrad either.
See, now Alex has asked that question, and he has decided that the answer to yes, the NSA, is yes.
He's just decided that based on that answer, he's admitted, basically, that he was working for the NSA.
So now, not only is he in bed with these Verichip people who are owned by IBM and the Chinese government, he is now also an operative of the National Security Agency.
It does feel as though we're at the Coliseum, and they just toss somebody in with a lion, and that person was like, I've never seen a lion before, and starts petting him.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and I think you need to investigate Verichip and IBM, and you need to look at Applied Digital, and you need to look at the plant they've built in China that you said you were aware of.
And I think it's very scary for you to say, no chip, you won't be able to get in the club, and that you think that's somewhere you might be going, or having chips in our hands to have guns.
So Conrad's not doing a good job of making his point about whether or not you should need a chip to get into the club.
It does kind of seem like he's saying yes and no to that simultaneously, but I think he means that he would not enforce that now, but can envision a world where...
Where it's the normal means of identification off in the future.
It's not actually contradictory, but it's not being expressed well.
But you can hear Alex expanding his implications that Conrad is working with the government, saying that his words are mirroring the Army War College.
Alex saying, you're an interesting fellow, I appreciate your honesty, can be translated to, you naive idiot, I'm gonna fuck you over so hard with this.
It's amazing.
There's such a giddiness in Alex's voice when he's like, you are an interesting fellow!
Well, that's very interesting, and I hope that you will look down into your heart and your soul and get some discernment and look at the bigger picture of the global ID system that you discussed and ask yourself, is a global government a good idea?
I mean, everybody wants to rule the world, and who are these people that are going to rule the world, and how will they use these ships to do it?
It's mysterious why he didn't grill this guy about how he was reading from a government script while the interview was going.
I have a strong suspicion it was because Alex could tell this guy was a little bit of a salesman and he was promoting his club, but also what seems to be like a sincere belief in the potential of chip technology.
There was so much more to gain from that interaction by not blowing up on this guy and revealing your true intentions in the conversation, which is exactly what Alex did.
That said, because I understand the world this interview took place in, I feel terrible for Conrad.
In the real world, this was kind of...
of a boring interview with a guy who runs a bar and believes in the potential of microchip technology.
But in InfoWars world, this was a damning revelation of a cocky NSA hatchet man chipping VIPs at his club to make it cool so kids want to get it to bring in the one world government to the mark of the beast.
He almost couldn't have answered a number of those questions better for Alex's purpose.
It is like, if you can imagine, like I imagine, And going to an alien planet a billion light years away, you land on there and you can talk to everyone and it sounds like you're having a perfectly normal conversation in every possible way, and yet everything that happens is completely wrong.
And it's like, no, it is just a complete coincidence that the sounds they're making are similar to the ones that you think are worth.
And I told you, year after year, they're going to have it as a status symbol to get in certain bars, to get in amusement parks, and then to do anything to travel, you're going to have to have it.
And here is one of the minions at an implantation center.
They're setting up at the bar.
They've already implanted a bunch of the patrons.
The CEO telling Mr. Chase, oh yes, we're going to have this global ID, and this is going to be the system, and everybody's going to have this.
And I said, oh, so in a few years to get in the club, you'll have to have the chip.
And he said, oh yes, I see that happening.
Oh yes, it's wonderful.
Oh, this will stop war.
Oh, globally, everyone having the chip.
That's the plan.
That's what the military said in 2000.
But when you watch the nightly news, oh, it's for the old people, the young people, the foreigners, the criminals.
He's fudging a bunch of the details and adding his own spin onto everything, but for the most part, he's repeating things that were said in the interview.
Like, for instance, he says that the CEO of Verichip said that there was going to be a world ID, and that's not really totally accurate, but also not made up.
Conrad said that he spoke with the vice president of Verichip and they both thought it had an application as a passport replacement The issue here is a disconnect in what's being discussed Conrad and this VIP are promoting their businesses They believe that there's a massive potential for this technology to be used in all kinds of ways Which would further their bottom lines and make them a bunch of money They aren't announcing a new world order plot to chip everyone, starting with having a couple people in Barcelona make it look cool.
But that's what Alex is going with.
They're announcing this as their plan for a world idea, as opposed to...
Their business would make a lot of money if they were able to do that.
And by the way, yesterday we posted a new microchip that is a swastika, and the company's called Matrix.
It's a Carloff Group-owned company.
I went ahead and went to their website and researched their corporate filings, and one of the heads of the Carloff Group heads up Matrix, a Carloff Group company.
It's a chip that's a swastika, and it's called, the company's called Matrix, and it's owned by the Carlyle Group, and was founded by members of the National Security Agency.
And I just knew in the last segment with this bar manager that he would have some NSA work in his past, and when I asked, guess what he did?
We played that clip earlier, but all Conrad said that he was in communications.
It was Alex that accused him of working for the NSA, but that was never established.
But apparently it's fact now.
And see, one of the reasons that I think that this is a really valuable thing to go over is you can see See the way that the information in the interview is being recontextualized for Alex's purposes immediately.
So they didn't get into specifics, but Conrad was in the U.S. Army Signal Corps, not the NSA.
He was also, like I said, a contestant on Gran Hermano and was in the Dutch Bowie Band called the Baja Boys, but no sign he was in the NSA.
Alex is telling the audience that because it helps make this narrative work, that this guy was essentially speaking for the government, popularizing their plans to make everyone get chipped.
This Matrix microchip thing is about a company called Matrix, but it's spelled with a C-S.
There are a couple people on the board with ties to the Carlyle Group, so Alex has just decided to report that they're a subsidiary of the Carlyle Group, because why not?
It's fucking simple.
I went to look at the InfoWars article about this to find a picture of the chip, and it kind of looks like a swastika, but I think Alex might be making more out of this than is merited.
That being said, as it turns out, around this time, some researchers were finding that the swastika shape worked really well for microchips.
I'm not sure if it's the best, but people were saying that it was very good around this time.
According to an article from the World Jewish Congress, an optical engineer at Southampton University had found that the symbol has, quote, the perfect geometry for twisting light in a way that can encode information.
That a thousand years from now, some historian would have to say the idea that one of them is like, Nazis put technology back a couple of decades because people just couldn't get over the fact that swastikas worked so well.
The interview I just did with the director of the Baja Beach Disco Bars, big 2,500 palatial clubs with the half-naked dancing girls at the big resorts around the world.
You don't know this!
That has to be the most revealing, wicked interview we've ever done.
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Oh, I talked to the CEO where we'll all be getting our global identification chip.
So Alex is right that he managed to do an interview that's illustrated that a guy who runs a bar in Barcelona is in favor of all of these applications for microchip technology.
What he actually failed to do is show that this is a plan that anyone has, or that this bar owner believing this means anything.
It's a victory for Alex, but from my vantage point, it seems like a hollow victory.
He has all the appearances of a big gotcha, but I don't think any of it matters.
This bar got a few people to get RFID chips voluntarily for their VIP program, and then they abandoned the program a few years later.
It didn't make getting chips into the coolest thing ever, and the kids aren't all secretly getting chips behind their parents.
That would have been 2008.
Yeah.
Alex succeeded in tricking a bar owner into saying exactly the things he needed someone to say.
But everything else around this he's super wrong about.
A big story, and I'm going to cover this, then we'll get to your calls, is from Infowars.com, directly from ADSX.com, or Applied Digital Solutions' stock website.
And the embedded microchip seller, Verichip, announces chipmobile.
It's on the move.
Watch for the chipmobile coming to your town.
Hey, kids.
So much for the Oscar Mayer Wienermobile.
The beast system is here, and Verichip has announced that the chipmobile is on the move.
So yeah, what Alex knew before looking up anything was that he was going to find a way to twist whatever he found into being part of his larger conspiracies.
It just so happened that one of the members of the board of Matrix, Michael Arneson, had worked for the NSA from 1979 to 1999.
Alex knew that there was a good bet that someone on the board would have a history with a government agency, so he knew that he was going to be able to hinge a conspiracy on that.
A testament to how shallowly he actually looked into any of this is if he dug a little deeper, he would have found that Matrix got funding from DARPA, which would have been a much more direct conspiracy.
The same is true for the claim that he knew that IBM owned Advanced Digital Solutions before he looked it up.
He didn't know that, but he could be pretty sure that there would be some piece of investment or some association of a board member that he could twist into his narrative.
IBM didn't own ADS, but they did formerly have a loan going.
So that's confirmation of the thing that Alex went into this research knowing he'd find.
He knew he would find something he could work with.
If Alex had looked into ADS and found that Apple had given them a loan, then guess what?
He would have known that going in.
Or if one of the big banks that are so evil had given them a loan, Alex would have known that from the jump.
This is a pretty blatant example of confirmation bias in action.
Alex has this unified field theory of geopolitics, which is basically just his way of saying his narrative...
Everything he finds must comport to that narrative, so when he sits down to search out information, it magically always does.
The claim that Matrix is a Carlisle Group subsidiary is a good example.
Alex is basing that on the fact that there are two members of the board at Matrix that have ties to Carlisle.
One of them, Brooke Coburn, was at the time a managing director at Carlisle, and the other one, Mark Ein, worked there prior to 1999.
But two members of the board also have ties to another company called LCC International.
One of them, Puyash Soda, was the CEO of LCC and also the CEO of Matrix, and Mark Ein also worked at LCC.
So why isn't Matrix an LCC subsidiary?
The reason is because the audience has no idea who LCC is, whereas they've been primed with plenty of talk about the Carlyle Group due to its association with the Bush administration.
So this is the angle that you go.
Also, the company isn't The Matrix.
It's just Matrix.
And it stands for Microwave Array Technology for Reconfigurable Integrated Circuits.
The Matrix sounds cooler for the audience, though, so that's what it is.
It's The Matrix.
So yeah, I don't know.
I just find this notion that I already knew when I went in.
I already knew all this ahead of time, because I know the devil's plans.
Yeah, it is so much of a, like, I don't know, what would I call it?
It's not hindsight is 20-20-20.
I think the lesson or something to be learned from Alex is just like, when Alex was doing this, there is something that he's pointing to that is actually so valuable that we needed to address.
Which is that there are too many people who are associated with too many companies.
You see a spot, you see a job opening that everybody kind of needs, which is somebody to be bombastic and to tell the truth, and you put in there somebody who is almost all of those things.
It's called The Matrix, just because they want to take good care of you always.
And again, I'm not bragging when I say I know what I'm going to read before I see it, but if you study this stuff and you know their game plan, well, it's like a cop who's been hunting after a serial killer for 20 years.
The serial killer's killed 40 people.
They found these dead women.
They found these dead men, whatever.
And the cop has seen the serial killers work so many times, when they get the call, And before he even walks into the woods to another scene, he knows what he's going to see.
I mean, that's really it.
So here I am every day.
I open the brush and walk into the woods and smell the rotten flesh.
And, well, I'm going to see their handiwork again, aren't I?
Same people, same operation, same wickedness.
And, again, that's my analogy of understanding these people.
Flaunting it in your face, throwing it in your face.
The destruction of this country and bringing in the new world order.
If Alex were like a detective and he was tracking down serial killers, he would see a calling card for a serial killer and then he would misinterpret it to be similar to another fake serial killer's calling card or something like that.
And yes, tomorrow, in one of the three hours, I'm not sure which one yet, I will re-air the most frightening, disgusting, slimy interview I have ever done.
We will re-enter the interview with the entity that we spoke with in the last hour, the microchip government creature who was telling us how wonderful it is and how we'll all need the chip to come in his club and how we'll all have our global chip.
He spoke with the same tongue, the same words.
As the others from this group.
So, if you listen carefully to this interview, it is the most...
I had goosebumps while this guy was talking.
To be talking to a creature like this is very, very serious.
The thing I was wondering as I was listening to that interview, I'm opposed to this, just outraged as much as you are, but when they say there's no drawback, on an implanted chip like that, couldn't you kill someone and take the chip?
Last year, about this time, through your listeners on your show, I was thrown into, well, I was thrown, because I believed all the things that you claimed.
I was thrown into the nut house, because I was allegedly nuts, because I was paranoid, because I couldn't disprove the competent evidence that you and other people had produced about who really did 9-1-1, what was really going on, the fact that there's a globalist takeover and that there's a mass genocide is ultimately the agenda of these satanic worshipping.
Abominable, super-rich, the global banking cartel and all the stooges who are doing their bidding.
But at any rate, the long and short of it is that we remember that through your listeners almost just knocking out the whole circuit on the mental health hospital, we got out of there in a matter of days.
Well, we had this happen again recently by someone who did a lot of 911 work.
Did you escape?
We've just seen the abuses in the court system where people get rid of the problem.
You know, this is the kind of thing that I can see in the real world matching the details of his story.
But instead, the way it's interpreted is...
I was too onto the real shit.
I couldn't disprove this stuff, so everyone thought I was crazy, and so I got put in a hospital, and then your listeners called, and they demanded my freedom.
And then he suspends the elections and everything to keep himself in power, you know, for, and I don't know how long of a time he could do that for, but I understand he has the power or the ability to do that.
And then he could, you know, proclaim himself as the dictator for this country, just like that.
I mean, what are the chances, do you think, of something like that happening?
Government plans, declassified documents to bomb D.C., to commit sniper attacks, to hijack jets by remote control and crash them, killing people, or staging fake crashes as a pretext I have misrepresentations of Operation Northwoods, and therefore, there's a good chance that Bush is going to do a giant false flag in order to become the dictator by canceling the 2004 elections, which we know happened, and then four years later, all kids are being microchipped because it's cool, because...
We've been fighting the globalists so successfully that whereas two years ago they had a time frame to carry out more terror by now, big events here in the U.S., not pinpricks around the world, not a pinprick if you die, but comparatively speaking that's what they call it, just their scare tactics, they would have already engaged in bigger events.
Right now I think they're trying to address things, they're trying to study.
They're kind of like deer in the headlights.
Things aren't going as they thought it would.
There's a massive awakening that's already taking place, so they're even in a way more dangerous right now, but overall that's good because now they're a little more ham-fisted and making a lot bigger mistakes.
So we've got them on the defensive right now, but we're in the 12th round of a heavyweight battle here.
I think that's something I touched on in one of our really early episodes, is the idea of somebody who is vigilant and watchful and a little bit bombastic.
Is something that society could use.
If Alex was what he pretends to be, there is a use for him in a functioning society, but not the actual thing that he is.
So Alex and this guy, you know, they riff a little bit about the interview, and Alex feels pretty good about that, but I think it's still eating away at him that...
I get the feeling that he's still kind of that youth watching his dad's John Birch Society friends yell about bullshit, and then he's doing an impression of that.
And they should all be arrested and put in forced labor camps.
We have a national show on 450 stations saying put people in forced labor camps.
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You're right.
It's terrible, and unfortunately, you know, I have gotten some of your videos, and I've been giving them out to people, and it's very hard to break through the brainwashing that they're getting from the neocons on TV and on the radio.
I mean, just a little while after this, once Michael Savage starts being nice to Alex, he's a forefather of the Patriot movement and one of the greatest.
Sky Television News is reporting that a Pentagon source has told them that 130 U.S. troops have been killed.
But you're going to see this broken up into each individual battle and reported in pieces in the newspaper.
You'll have to add them all up for yourself as a propaganda tactic.
London Guardian's reporting that they escalated all of this, again, so the U.S. can stage as the bad cop and the U.N. can be the good cop, and so they don't have the handover.
And now they've blown up part of a mosque, which is sure to stir things up even worse.
So Alex also has a really convenient way to not be wrong there with the 130 deaths.
You're going to see reported lower numbers than that, but that's actually them just breaking it up and blah, blah, blah.
No, it's not.
You've got bad information and you're not going to admit that it was tentative information that you have reported as factual and complete because it's more important that the media is...
Yeah.
I mean, ironically, telling people that this is a propaganda tactic is itself a propaganda tactic.
You know, an interesting exercise in Alex doing an interview that's a setup, and then paying it off with talking about the interview immediately after, fleshing out the, this is how you interpret the things he said, this is the, he's announcing this plan, as opposed to just being a guy who's in favor of these technologies and thinks they're cool.
It's literally, not only has the context not changed, it's actually freakish that the one thing that you really legitimately should be like, If a billionaire is trying to put chips in you, I warned you about that before other people did.
If there was anything you were going to do that for.
I don't have a clip of this, but in a part of it, when he's talking about that Army War College report that is about everyone getting chipped, he said that they predicted it would happen by 2025.
Of all the things that we have to listen to you be Alex Jones is right about, this one instead, you're like, well, hey, man, this guy's actually fucking cool.