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Feb. 21, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
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#901: February 18, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in on Alex's Sunday show, and find him attempting to cover Cheerios and a pandemic preparedness treaty, but ends up mostly just being a bit racist.

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alex jones
28:35
d
dan friesen
50:30
j
jordan holmes
25:57
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tucker carlson
01:58
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kanye west
00:02
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rob agueros
00:58
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need, I need money.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
It's time to pray.
alex jones
In Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your room.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you today, sir.
What's your bright spot?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is we have sold out in Boston.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And so all of the tickets are taken.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And it, you know, I had an emotional experience about it last night.
I made a joke when we announced the tour that there's a chance I will end up crying in the Boston show.
And I may not now because I may or may not have wept in the tub listening to the Boston's live album.
Live from the Middle East.
jordan holmes
That sounds like a perfect idea.
dan friesen
Last night, just overwhelmed entirely with emotion.
But the idea that we're going to be recording in the same room.
That, like, these albums are recorded in.
I don't mean to make such a big deal out of it, but it's hard for me to deal with.
And it's, I don't know, it has to be a bright spot, you know?
jordan holmes
I appreciate that we started a show, the two of us, with no one else, in your room, seven years ago, about Alex fucking Jones.
And then we just sold out the Mideast, and you said...
I don't mean to make it sound like a big deal or anything, but I enjoy this.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I'll be honest.
unidentified
It is a big deal.
dan friesen
And I'll be honest, I feel like that Boston's live album holds up pretty well.
jordan holmes
You said so last night, and I believe you.
dan friesen
It's not bad.
There's a lot of energy in there.
And there's a moment that I really love that I've forgotten about, and that is they start playing the impression that I get, the big single.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And Dickie is like, I think we all know this fucking song.
unidentified
There's like a resentment about their hit.
dan friesen
Maybe that's where I get some of this from.
jordan holmes
Some of the resentment for things that you enjoy?
Like a band that hates the song that brought them all the monies?
dan friesen
Yeah, so maybe I'll be an anti-vaxxer in 20 years.
jordan holmes
I think that's probably the safe bet.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
I mean, I think funnily enough, we're both on music bright spots in a certain way.
One, I think...
We've both had a lot of emotions recently.
And for me, musically, I store a lot of emotion in songs.
If I put all my emotion in a song, then I can put the song away, and then I don't have to feel it, because it's all the way over there.
But then somebody plays the song, and then I'm fucked.
There's the album, Deloused in the Comatorium by Mars Volta.
I taught myself to play the drums on that album.
dan friesen
That's an interesting choice.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and I keep so much in the drum tracks of those albums.
And it's just, it felt so good to go back and listen to it and get all that energy out.
Now I'm lost!
dan friesen
I can't do...
The vocals.
jordan holmes
There's one, I want to say it was an ESP maybe, but it's like, there's a lick that's which, if you don't know the sticking on it, it's so hard if you're not a drummer to even understand how hard it is.
But anyways, that led me to this thought.
I have been torrenting shit.
For more than 20 years now.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
LimeWire days.
jordan holmes
I've been torrenting through people getting arrested for it.
I've been torrenting through people getting sued for millions of dollars for it.
dan friesen
You're Lars Ulrich's greatest enemy.
jordan holmes
Through the fucking iPods, through the iPhones, through streaming services, through Apple Music, through Spotify.
Do you know why?
dan friesen
Why?
jordan holmes
Because I never trusted any of those fuckers to let me keep the music.
I wanted to keep it.
It's mine.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That kind of thing.
dan friesen
You could have bought a physical copy.
jordan holmes
That's hard.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I like music too much.
I cannot afford it.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I cannot afford my habit.
dan friesen
Fair-ish?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Anyways.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So what does that have to do with Mars Volta?
jordan holmes
I torrented it.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Because my...
Oh, that's right.
My hard drive...
I told you a while back, my hard drive got fried.
So I lost...
dan friesen
You're building back up that collection.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I lost several...
Almost a terabyte of music is terrifying.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
My friend group around that age, 18, 19-ish, in that span of time, spent a fair amount of time having strong feelings about the at-the-drive-in breakup.
How Mars Volta was so much better than Sparta.
jordan holmes
Oh, for God's sakes.
dan friesen
And I don't know why people cared that much.
At least my friends, I don't know.
Also famously, I used to go to do the karaoke at these random bars around central Missouri.
And one day I was looking through the track list that they had, and at the drive-in, one-armed scissor was in there.
I have no idea why.
That is not a good karaoke song.
jordan holmes
Who is karaokeing one-armed scissor?
dan friesen
This guy.
Because I started doing it.
jordan holmes
Of course you did.
You could not.
dan friesen
Freaking the shit out of these weirdos.
It never went over well.
unidentified
Cut away!
jordan holmes
Cut away!
unidentified
Sad transmission from the one-off sensor!
jordan holmes
That sounds about right.
dan friesen
Brought the house down.
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over, and we're going to be talking about Sunday's episode.
I figured, like, hey, there's so much big news in the world that we didn't really get a satisfying take on, because Alex is out of studio on Thursday and Friday.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
So Saturday, you know, he doesn't do his show.
Sunday comes in.
Maybe we'll get a good taste of coverage or something.
We don't.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But this is an emotional rollercoaster that is incredibly fucked up.
And, uh, sucks.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
So we'll get to that here in a second, but first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, the Speckles Memorial Foundation for chickens who may or may not be facing homelessness.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, as TJ says, bye-bye, Ron.
Don't take care.
Hope to see you never.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, listen to two years of current episodes.
Went back to episode one.
Never would have made it past episode 20 with Jordan's interruptions if you hadn't learned Mike Down.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
That's not, that's rude.
jordan holmes
I appreciate that one especially because they asked me, first of all, they were like, where do I send the policy wonk stuff?
And I was like, oh, send it here.
And then they sent me that and I was like, cool beans, let's do it.
dan friesen
Sure.
I appreciate that you have- Kind of an insult?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Straight to my face, I like it.
I'm not at all insulted.
I'm respectful.
dan friesen
All right, well, I'll not like it on your behalf.
Next, Lucas Lemmy, the coolest pup and cat army.
I love you.
Please do the I love you and, oh, goddammit.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Heather, mayor of Clowntown.
Thank you so much for now, Palsy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Next, the baby bullhorn goes honk.
As we say, rest in peace, nonk.
It's written like Schachter, but lacking dry laughter.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
My rhythm wasn't great there.
And then Schachter threw me off because I forgot about the limerick man.
And that was a limerick, I guess.
So limerick.
That makes Marty Schachter from the Cal Ben Soap Company.
I get it.
jordan holmes
The soap limerick man.
dan friesen
And we've got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much, too.
Oh, well, imagine you're wearing a backpack in public transit.
Then you deserve to die because Lionel, Lionel, Lionel.
Thank you so much.
You're an hour technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
I don't like to hype things, but people are designed to hype.
I am going to paint once a week on air, and I'm going to let callers call in.
We'll also take emails and request what you want to see me paint.
One, two, three, Matt Damon!
unidentified
Matt Damon!
alex jones
There you go.
Party time.
I'm going to get in your guts.
And the Nazis, in my view, were thugs that shook people down and did a lot of really bad things.
unidentified
Well, they did good things, too.
kanye west
We're going to stop dissing the Nazis all the time.
alex jones
Okay.
I'm thinking about doing some shows, too, where I run the whole thing myself, just hit record, and sit in the dark with just a few candles and candlelight.
And talk about the nature of the world universe.
I mean, you know, a big old juicy ribeye, folks, is as good as, you know, sex with your wife.
I mean, let's just get down to reality here.
I'm gonna go Donkey Kong, King Kong crazy in about 45 days.
America sucks.
We're all racist.
It's over.
Doesn't mean I want to go live, say, in some places in Asia where you get off the plane over there, folks.
They karate chop you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
I don't remember why he was going to go Donkey Kong crazy in 45 days.
unidentified
Me neither.
dan friesen
I just, I wonder if he did.
unidentified
Was it the election?
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Was it an election?
Was it some election?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Maybe it was the MIAC.
dan friesen
No.
Because that sounds like a little more current.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Just by sound quality.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
dan friesen
I don't know, but he was going to go Donkey Kong crazy.
jordan holmes
Man, I can't.
I can't say enough how much I enjoy it.
I'm going to go Donkey Kong, King Kong crazy.
dan friesen
And then the pause in 45 days.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly!
I mean, everything about it is amazing.
Everything about it is amazing.
dan friesen
Timing, strong.
Yep.
jordan holmes
Alliteration.
Spectacular.
dan friesen
So, we're going to cover this February 18th, 2024 episode, but first here is an out-of-context drop from today's show.
alex jones
But now let's end the Sunday Bible Hour.
And move into the news.
dan friesen
Yes, please.
unidentified
Please, please.
dan friesen
Don't do the Sunday Bible hour talking like that.
Holy shit, that's bad.
jordan holmes
Man, I cannot imagine the Sermon on the Mount being delivered in those tones.
alex jones
Thou shalt not kill.
unidentified
Actually, the Ten Commandments, I can.
jordan holmes
Moses brought those down.
alex jones
Thou shalt not kill.
dan friesen
I guess I got those confused because of the mountain.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I understand.
dan friesen
So, yeah, that should give you a little bit of a sense of some of the tone that Alex is in.
jordan holmes
A little intense?
dan friesen
Some would say drunk.
jordan holmes
There's that.
dan friesen
Intensely something.
So we start here and Alex is in a bit of a chipper mood.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
People are really waking up now.
I see it on the street.
I see it at the gym.
I see it at church, the grocery store.
I went to a little local gym today and it's a pretty good sized gym.
There were only like three people in it.
All men.
jordan holmes
When was the last time you went to a gym?
alex jones
And two of the three, separately, they were all there working out alone.
Two of the three, while I was there for an hour, came over to me and said, what was done to you in the courts was wrong, and we all know the corrupts are completely controlled, and what are you going to do?
And I said, what are you going to do?
Think about that.
I'm at a gym for an hour.
There's only three other men in there, and two of them are listeners.
dan friesen
Wow.
That story didn't happen.
But it introduces an interesting question.
Why was Alex going to a gym?
From the records that have been released and videos that have come out, I know that Infowars headquarters has a gym in it.
In his declaration of assets, there was an entire room that was designated as a gym full of multiple LCD monitors, a full set of Kaiser workout machines, two punching bags, two massage tables, a rowing machine, an elliptical, three treadmills.
Oh my god.
If Alex is going to a gym outside of InfoWars, then it would strongly suggest that he's already sold off this impressive collection of equipment, which seems possible, because I don't see any other reason that he would be at a gym.
I guess the other possibility is that these three people were all InfoWars employees working out at the office gym, which would explain why they're so into him.
Whatever the case, this story is fishy.
jordan holmes
Suspect.
I imagine the third one, though, if he had asked, would have gone...
dan friesen
Oh yeah, demon for sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which begs the question, exactly how did the three of them get along?
You know, how did two...
dan friesen
I don't know if there are three all there together at the gym.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, you got two info warriors and a globalist who are alone in a gym, which sounds like a great street joke.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, that also is what happens in hot tubs frequently.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
You have patriots and globalists mixing it up.
This is just the nature of reality.
jordan holmes
There need to be more mixers.
I feel like maybe one of the ways that we could combat this problem is not having Alex there and getting everybody who's, you know, needing to talk.
dan friesen
So it's not just people at the gym who are telling Alex how great he is.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
There's other folks.
unidentified
That's wild.
alex jones
And my point is, that's what I'm getting every time I go to the grocery store.
Every time I go out to eat.
Yesterday for lunch, I took my middle and youngest daughter.
Out to eat.
And we went to a very popular family-owned Italian place.
And I've been there many times.
Never had the owner come out and bring me a piece of chocolate cake and my daughter's ice cream.
jordan holmes
It was an olive oil.
alex jones
We're all rooting for you.
We know what's happened to you is wrong.
And we know they're coming for us next.
And that's an old Italian family that's had restaurants in Houston and Austin for 70 years.
And I don't start the show to say, oh, look, I'm popular.
I'm cool.
Most of you aren't public figures, which is great.
You have your privacy.
I am a public figure, so I'm like a metric or a gauge, a sensor.
And in a year and a half, I've been confronted on the street twice.
And I've shook thousands of hands.
Brown hands and white hands and brown hands, black hands.
jordan holmes
The end of hands.
alex jones
I mean, just everybody.
So the globalists have screwed the pooch.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
Alex's only real way of gauging how the war of the globalists against the globalists is going is just how he feels about how people are treating him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's pretty narcissistic.
dan friesen
These interactions almost certainly didn't happen how Alex is describing them, but he feels like they did, which means that the globalists are screwed.
And I did also think, like, this has got to be Olive Garden, when I heard him describing it as an Italian family restaurant.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
But I actually dug in a little bit, and I think I figured out where he's talking about.
But it doesn't serve any...
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I mean, their history, of course, is they left New York to escape the Irish.
That sounds right.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Right?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
They got to Alice Island.
dan friesen
They were in Houston.
jordan holmes
I was wrong.
dan friesen
Escaped Houston.
So, a lot of people loving Alex, and that's great.
That's great.
So we jump off from navel-gazing and being like, hey, the globalists are losing because people are nice to me.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
We get into some meat and potatoes.
alex jones
Because George Soros is a CIA operative.
That's what he is.
He's the front man for it.
Didn't just take over several thousand cities and counties where they have the judges and they have the district attorneys and the county attorneys in their pockets.
And now many of the police chiefs.
They have these junkets that are on record where they pay for the hotels and airline tickets to the Caribbean and to the Mediterranean and to Europe and to Canada and to beautiful places in Florida, golf courses, you name it.
We're talking five-star hotels, four seasons.
dan friesen
Three turtle doves.
alex jones
And they get lavish steak dinners, everything paid for.
And they go to these week-long conferences that are put on by George Soros organization and sub-organizations.
So you'll see like seven or eight of these groups, and you'll see Fannie Willis going to three of them a year.
And when you look at the groups, all three are either purely Soros or partially Soros, and they teach them how to engage in criminal activity.
So they're organized crime racketeering mafia meetings of the lawyers.
So they've put in a lot of the judges.
They've had them appointed or in areas where you run for office, like Texas, they've had them run.
And they've got the lawyers, they've got the judges, they've got the PR firms.
So they give them a packet.
They say, this is how it works for lawyers.
They say, we're going to sue Alex Jones, we're going to sue Trump.
And this has come out from whistleblowers.
And then they're given a packet.
This is what you say, this is what you file, this is how you do it.
jordan holmes
Why not a binder?
I feel like a binder would be more efficient.
alex jones
They're going to default Giuliani.
They're going to default Jones and say that you don't get a trial.
The judge will then find you guilty.
And then we'll have a show trial, because the public still expects one, on quote damages.
Now, when that worked on me and a bunch of other people in the last five years, they've now said, screw that.
We're just going to have judges say you don't get a jury trial and then say you're guilty on day one of the trial.
And then have their own trial where you don't get closing statements.
You don't get to put forward your evidence.
You don't get to say you're innocent.
dan friesen
So this is all a really fun illustration of Alex trying to use storytelling and creativity to cope with the fact that he's in the position he's in, and all of the people he admires are getting charged with crimes.
None of this is real, and I would be curious what whistleblowers he's talking about.
But more importantly, you even responded to, why is Soros a CIA agent now?
jordan holmes
That's annoying.
dan friesen
He should be so much farther above it.
jordan holmes
Way higher than CIA.
dan friesen
This org chart is ridiculous.
jordan holmes
God, I'm so disappointed in him.
dan friesen
It's lazy storytelling, but, you know, I think when you hear something like this, you really do have to ask yourself the question, like, all right, why aren't you blowing up a federal building then?
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, if you truly believe that all recourse, essentially, through the law is screwed, there is no opportunity for you.
Why aren't you doing that?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Why are you pretending that you're working towards some kind of an actual conclusion that doesn't involve overthrowing the fucking government?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't know.
dan friesen
Why are you pretending?
It's ridiculous.
rob agueros
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't see any...
Listen, I'm fine with it.
If you want to also...
The thing is, it's not serious.
Like, I get it.
Whatever you're saying makes blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But you're not going to say anything about Clarence Thomas?
You're not going to say anything about these people?
dan friesen
He is.
We'll get there.
jordan holmes
Oh, is he?
dan friesen
Yeah, he's gonna say his bigs.
jordan holmes
Okay, fine.
If you're willing to clean slate it...
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
That's not what he's gonna say.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I didn't think so.
No, if you're willing to clean slate all of this bullshit, I'm fine.
I don't give a fuck about any current judge.
Fuck them.
I'm fine with that, you know?
If that's your argument, I want a clean slate.
But they never want a clean slate.
They always want our guys.
dan friesen
That is true.
I think that they want, or there is a rational want for some oversight and maybe some changes to be made.
Some reform in many areas of the legal system.
That is fair enough.
But if you are acting like all of this is entirely captured by the evil globalists who are overpowered and in control of everything, you've got nothing left.
There is no reform within that system.
jordan holmes
Right.
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So it's just ridiculous for Alex to have these positions and pretend he's in a, like, I'm encouraging an info war.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So Alex, as he is in this mindset about the courts and they're all screwed and everything, he gets into talking some about Trump's case in New York.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's do it.
alex jones
And in the real estate fraud case where on Friday the judge said, yeah, I find you guilty, 400 million bucks.
380 million plus 20-something million, so it's over 400 million.
And you've got to pay it in a month, by the way.
Oh, where's the appeal?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I believe that.
alex jones
Like, what?
Doesn't matter what the law says, they do whatever they want, because, folks, they own now almost all of the appeals courts and the Supreme Courts of the states, and they are clearly blackmailing the Supreme Court justices, both Democrat and Republican.
Because all of them have taken trips and special favors and things that are kind of gray, but if it's a Republican, they're going to fry them.
That's a big shot across the bow of them coming after Clarence Thomas.
Ah, that's right.
jordan holmes
Coming after him for flying with friends.
dan friesen
He's just flying with friends.
jordan holmes
Flying with buds.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Out for fun.
dan friesen
You're not allowed to have friends.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
It's verboten.
So Trump doesn't just have a month to pay his judgment.
He has a limited window in which he can file an appeal.
And in order to appeal, you often have to either put down the amount of the judgment against you or a smaller amount with collateral as an appeal bond.
It may be that he has a month to decide to appeal, and if he does, he has to put down a deposit.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's what Alex is misrepresenting.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But yeah, it is fun to be like, hey, Clarence Thomas is being somehow actually even punished.
jordan holmes
Again, I'm fine with it.
If you want to talk about our legal system and you're like, oh, all these liberal lefty judges, fine.
Get rid of them.
I'm fine with it.
Get rid of all of them.
Clean slate.
But if they never want to do that, they're like, ah, we always want the guys who are fucking evil and shit.
dan friesen
Well, we'd like to clean slate everybody that isn't on board with us.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
And maintain...
jordan holmes
Like, who in their right mind is like, nah, I think we should keep the legal system the same.
If you believe that, you're out of your mind.
You're out of your mind.
dan friesen
I think there are some people who probably, I don't know who they are, but I'm sure there is.
unidentified
Rich people?
dan friesen
Well, maybe.
So Clarence Thomas is getting attacked.
He's under attack.
jordan holmes
Of course he is!
alex jones
On a scale of corruption, that's like, let's say the scale's a 1 to 100.
Clarence Thomas is about a 2. I mean, he did what was legal, but still they can misrepresent it.
So he's about a 2. It was legal.
unidentified
That's true.
alex jones
And the Democrat judges are a 150 on a scale of 100.
I mean, they're like breaking the needle.
Off the chart, it's like if a car has a RPM gauge and it says 8,000 RPMs, well, I mean, people like this judge, Ingeron, are at 20,000 RPMs of corruption.
unidentified
I mean, it's cartoon.
dan friesen
That is cartoon level.
That is something you see in cartoons.
jordan holmes
That is something, 20,000 RPMs is something you see in cartoons, yeah.
dan friesen
Judge Engeron's like somebody painted a tunnel on a wall.
It's cartoon level.
jordan holmes
He jumps up in the air and his legs spin around really fast before he moves!
dan friesen
Clarence Thomas is a two, baby!
jordan holmes
How are you even pretending that that's okay?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Only zeros are okay on the scale!
dan friesen
Well, that, I think, speaks to what your point is.
It's like, okay, if it's two, fine.
That's still too high.
jordan holmes
Get him out of here.
Fine.
Why is this a complicated question?
unidentified
There's a corruption.
dan friesen
If there is corruption, then...
jordan holmes
Any corruption is a problem that needs to be removed.
Excised.
dan friesen
Well, not for Alex.
You know, it's just like, if it's a two, it's fine.
jordan holmes
Hey, come on.
You've only got a little breast cancer.
It'll be fine.
We'll see you in 10 years.
dan friesen
He is also the guy who has bumpers that come in and out of break that's like, he's the one who's standing up and fighting corruption.
But also a two is fine.
That is fine.
That is...
jordan holmes
I mean, hey, we should all be grateful for a two because it could be so much worse.
It could be 20,000!
dan friesen
Like cartoon RPM meters breaking off.
So, Alex talks a little bit about the judges in Travis County and how that's all a mess.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
The crooks think they're above the law.
And here's an example, okay?
Travis County, they have elected judges.
And I've had all sorts of court cases in there, and they used to have old-fashioned judges.
Most of them were women.
And they would sit there and go over the facts.
jordan holmes
Why is there being women particularly notable?
alex jones
The word came in about five years ago, none of you are getting financed for running for office, and they all retired.
Every judge retired in the last three years.
And now every judge, 34 of them, every judge in Travis County, Austin, Texas, is a woman.
And every one of them has pledged allegiance to Soros.
And is financed by the Democratic Party.
jordan holmes
Was there a ceremony for that?
alex jones
They have no pretense of justice.
They think it's funny.
dan friesen
If you're listening to this, you've got to just think this guy's a baby.
Like, this is such stupid shit.
But, like, we've been over this a little bit in the past, and Alex is just wrong.
But I wanted to get a sense of precisely how wrong he is about Travis County judges.
jordan holmes
How many judges are there?
dan friesen
So, I mean, I don't have a full number, but we'll break down some of the courts.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So, in the associate courts, there are four judges.
Three of them are men.
There are two county courts.
jordan holmes
No.
All of the judges in Travis County are women.
dan friesen
Three out of four of the associate court judges are men.
jordan holmes
Well, that's too many.
dan friesen
And there are two county court judges.
Both of them are men.
Okay.
The claim that they all got into office in the last three years and have sworn allegiance to Soros is a slightly different matter.
For instance, in the 98th district, the Honorable Rhonda Hurley has been at that bench since 2009.
In the 201st district, the Honorable Amy Clark Meacham has presided since 2011.
In the 250th district, the Honorable Karen Crump has been in place since 2015.
In the 245th district judge, they've been in there since 2017.
The 419th since 2019.
And Alex's own judge, the Honorable Maya Guerra-Gamble, has been over the 459th district.
jordan holmes
So it's five years.
dan friesen
Plus.
And more.
jordan holmes
Right.
And there are men elsewhere.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Of the 12 district judges, six of them have risen to the bench since 2021.
So Alex is off by a little bit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
With the shit he's just making up.
I'd like to see what the foundation for the claim is that they all swore allegiance to Soros.
I imagine the citation is something in Alex's imagination.
jordan holmes
Do you have to write it down?
I feel like you would have to write it down.
Right?
Because you can't swear allegiance to Soros, but just orally.
Because Soros then doesn't have a blackmail thing on you.
You know, he has to have a blackmail thing on you.
dan friesen
Well, now you're talking yourself into believing the Soros-Antifa contracts are real.
jordan holmes
I'm trying to figure out a way for this to...
a way for you to...
Okay, I'm trying to figure out a way for you to swear allegiance to something and then have somebody else find out about it without a written document.
dan friesen
I'm guessing that just some of the judges got, like, donations to their campaign from foundations that might be connected to Soros, and Alex is assuming that everybody did and it's a blood oath that they've taken to swear allegiance to Soros.
It's nonsense.
It's just really stupid.
And if you're listening to that, you gotta be like, this guy is...
jordan holmes
A whiner.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And he's expressing, like, my feelings about the court.
jordan holmes
Every judge is a woman is the one type of thing you hear a one type of person say.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Like a drunk uncle that you don't want to hang out with.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Who's mysteriously four times divorced.
jordan holmes
I'm not a misogynist!
Why does everybody keep saying that?
Especially women who don't know anything and are dumb!
alex jones
Right.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Travis County is basically run by Antifa witches.
jordan holmes
Sure.
That would be fun.
alex jones
And even the mainland Democrat lawyers are freaking out because I talk to them and they say, man, it's a circus.
They don't even read filings.
They just hackle and laugh and just because, folks, it's a formula.
And you know the judge's Facebooks and it's them with Antifa outfits on.
We're going to get Trump.
We're going to get the white men.
And it's mainly white women.
It's a cult, folks.
They went to law school.
They got recruited into these groups.
They got sent to junkets in law school so Soros' people in the CIA could kind of handle the fruit, handle the stuff in the vegetable department.
They are vegetables, culturally, mentally, spiritually.
And then who are they going to basically finance and put in?
And now it's full-on war.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's war.
So you get it?
You get what's going on here?
These people in law school, they go to these junkets where they're recruited by Soros operatives in the CIA.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Soros is maybe in the CIA.
Maybe he's like over part of the CIA, the part that recruits witch judges.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So they recruit them and then they're Antifa witches.
jordan holmes
God, I want witch judges.
I want witch judges a lot more than I want any other type of judge.
dan friesen
Now hear me out on this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Costume-wise.
jordan holmes
Same difference.
dan friesen
Similar.
Black robe does seem like something that could go witch or...
jordan holmes
And they always whine about how other people dress?
dan friesen
Antifa outfits is just people dressing in black.
jordan holmes
I was gonna say!
Yeah, isn't that the idea?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
God, also, man, what, is a judge gonna burn down their own courtroom?
Antifa judge?
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
Well, that is a problem for Alex.
jordan holmes
Antifa judge.
dan friesen
So we got all these problems with the court.
The court is all taken over.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And this is what the globalist plan is.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
They've had, on average, over 100 meetings with these DAs.
With these attorney generals, they have had meal after meal.
They have sat around and laughed about their criminal takeover.
jordan holmes
They work together.
alex jones
This is their takeover.
This is their assault.
And the few pockets of judiciary that still do their jobs are being hunted.
Soros didn't spend billions of dollars, the CIA taxpayer money he was given, to just open the borders and flood the country.
Soros has spent...
Billions, and he's just one of the big ones.
There's a bunch of groups.
To literally create this, where people shoot up federal courthouses, firebomb it, shoot people driving in pickup trucks because they're white, and they let them out of jail the next day, and the vice president bailed them out when she was the candidate.
People that shot federal courthouses were bailed out by the vice president.
They're revolutionaries.
jordan holmes
Which one?
alex jones
You understand that?
They are evil criminals.
And they're coming for you and your family.
dan friesen
Oh.
You should be scared then.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I thought the medical system was the big globalist takeover.
I thought that fraud in elections was the big globalist takeover.
I guess Alex is just kind of mad about the courts today.
Hard not to see why, given that his hero just got hit with like half a billion in judgments against him, and Alex has to take the last two days of his show off to deal with bankruptcy issues.
Almost as if the thing that's affecting him most personally has become the central plan of the globalists.
Almost as if their imaginary plans map suspiciously well onto Alex's personal feelings.
We've been over this, but Soros isn't taking over the courts, and all Kamala Harris did was tweet a link to a bail phone.
Yeah.
She didn't bail anyone out.
And if Alex actually believes in the justice system at all in the American way, then he should believe that everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
And if the courts determine that they're safe to be eligible for bail, there's no reason they should be forced to stay in prison just because they can't afford to buy their freedom.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But when we talk about people shooting at courthouses, it's an interesting point because there hasn't just been one person who's ever shot at a courthouse.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, I can think of some people who have done a lot of things to courthouses.
dan friesen
Well, there's like in 2019, Brian Isaac Clyde shot at the Earl Cabell Federal Building and Courthouse in Dallas before being shot by cops and killed.
After his death, they found his social media was full of incel material as well as extreme right-wing ideology, including a lot of transphobia and misogyny.
It's not a stretch to say that a lot of the material he was posting wasn't too dissimilar from the stuff you'd hear on InfoWars.
Or in 2021, Cody Levi Melby was charged with shooting at the Portland Federal Courthouse.
He'd been arrested two days prior for attempting to trespass into the courthouse while in possession of a firearm, an act he committed after attending a Stop the Stats.
SEAL rally.
Alex isn't talking about these cases.
He's obviously talking about Portland in 2020.
Sure.
unidentified
But he has zero specific details about whether or not anyone was charged with crimes or faced punishment.
dan friesen
It just feels like no one did.
And that's what works best for his narrative.
So that's the truth that gets presented in the InfoWars.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, it makes me uncomfortable.
I just don't like it.
I don't like Alex wanting to protect federal buildings.
dan friesen
It is a twist.
jordan holmes
It's just so far away from its roots.
I mean, I don't want him being like, hey, let's all go blow up federal buildings, but I don't want him being like, federal buildings are sacrosanct territory.
dan friesen
It is a little bit convoluted on his part, although I will say that I guess he's technically imagining that he's opposed to the Oklahoma City bombing.
Sure.
He's pretending that Timothy McVeigh didn't do it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know?
jordan holmes
Right.
He was pretending that the guy who believes everything that he believes didn't do it.
dan friesen
Right, right.
It was all fake to make people who believe what he believes look bad.
jordan holmes
That was a smart move on his part.
dan friesen
So let's get off this court shit because it's just, it's incessant.
We get to something that I tried to hand wave away in our last episode.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which was a special report about Cheerios.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And Alex...
jordan holmes
We gotta dig into that Cheerios report.
dan friesen
Unfortunately, we at least need to mention it.
unidentified
Cool.
alex jones
I'm gonna get into the UN saying, if you don't...
Give us the world pandemic tree to run your life and your body.
Disease X is imminent.
It's going to kill you.
And then I've got all this other huge news.
80% of Americans test positive for a chemical that sterilizes you and bends your genders.
Quaker Oats, Cheerios, and hundreds of other products.
Told you this a long time ago.
It's being done by design.
They know exactly what they're doing.
So they're banning carbon dioxide that plants breathe.
Allowing chemicals that literally bend the genders of every animal from ants to honeybees to mammals to amphibians to birds.
jordan holmes
Name five more kingdom phylum fucking, what are we doing?
dan friesen
Ask any ornithologist.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
So the UN isn't saying that if you don't sign on to this treaty, then disease X is imminent.
Disease X is imminent no matter what, because it's not an actual disease.
It's a placeholder name for the future challenge that our public health system is going to encounter, so there's no point in squabbling about whether it's going to happen or not.
In Alex's world, this isn't the case, though.
For him, all of these diseases are bioweapon releases from the globalists, so there are conscious decisions that can be made to make the releases happen or not happen.
When public health officials propose a treaty that makes international cooperation easier in the case of international pandemics, Alex doesn't believe those pandemics actually happen.
So the specter of them happening must be leverage that the globalists are applying to scare us into signing onto this treaty.
Basically, it's a bunch of bullshit, but the plotline becomes a little more understandable if you look at it through the Infowars prism.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like, if you don't, it's just like, the fuck are you talking about?
But then you take on the, it's the opposite of the they live glasses.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I was reading some asshole's point of view on Tucker interviewing Putin or whatever, and it was very much like, Tucker, the serious American journalist, didn't do a good job.
And he's like, no, you don't understand what anybody was trying to do there, because you can't understand what Tucker is thinking.
Like, you don't get it.
You think Tucker is similar to you.
As opposed to being completely different.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Like, if you can't get inside the mind of this person, everything you say is going to sound insane to me.
dan friesen
Or at least look at it with the awareness of, like, this is what is being discussed with the subtext and the cultural context that these things are discussed in.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
You're bringing the wrong stuff to this table.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
So the Cheerios issue here is about a pesticide called Chlormaquat.
dan friesen
This chemical is largely used on oats because it restricts the stem growth, making it so stocks don't bend over, which makes them, if they do bend over, makes them much more difficult to harvest.
In April 2023, the EPA sought public comment about allowing this chemical to be used on Sure.
There was a lot of study that's been done on rats and rabbits, and at high doses, they did find some negative effects, some involving the reproductive system, but that doesn't mean that that would translate to human concerns.
Pre That was the only application in the United States that was allowed.
But it was and has been allowed in other countries for agricultural applications.
So imported things and things that are produced in other countries.
jordan holmes
You got some chlormaquat in your body sooner or later.
dan friesen
There's a decent chance that there is.
All of this information that Alex is reporting on traces back to a paper recently published in the Journal of Exposure Science and Environmental Epidemiology.
I read the paper, and the most you could say for it is that it suggests that further testing should be done, because it doesn't really achieve what I would consider concrete conclusions.
The paper sought to test for chloroquine presence in urine samples, and in order to do that, they purchased urine samples from various places, taken at various points in time.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
There's no explained rationale for why they chose the sources they chose, which I find a little bit worrying.
jordan holmes
We went out looking for pee, and we got some!
What do you want?
dan friesen
Why'd you choose that pee?
jordan holmes
Don't ask!
Ask questions that you don't want to know the answer.
dan friesen
It's not randomized.
jordan holmes
It's not easy to find pee, okay?
dan friesen
It's so easy to find pee.
jordan holmes
No, it is not.
You've got to go out to places where people is.
dan friesen
So I had some concerns.
Like, for instance, 21 of their 23 samples for their 2017 cohort were, quote, consenting de-identified pregnant women at the time of delivery from the Medical University of South Carolina.
The other groups aren't predominantly pregnant people which makes that selection seem strange.
Why is that one entire cohort that you have?
jordan holmes
If I understand correctly, these are women who are peeing while giving birth.
And that is the urine that we are using?
dan friesen
That does seem to be what it says from the explanation.
At time of delivery.
jordan holmes
I mean, I'm fine.
I have no comment about that.
I just want to be clear that I understand when it is we are collecting this urine.
dan friesen
Apparently.
jordan holmes
And now the question that you have as to why did you choose what urine is very interesting.
dan friesen
It's very strange.
jordan holmes
It's very interesting now.
dan friesen
So they also purchased 25 urine samples from between October 2017 and September 2022 that were provided by volunteers in Maryland Heights, Missouri, which is a suburb.
samples from that time frame.
jordan holmes
What the fuck are these people?
dan friesen
They collected more samples than the data that was presented, and no reason is given for why certain ones were excluded.
Their numbers just don't seem to match up.
They have three sets of data, one from 2017, one for 2018 through 2022, and one for 2023.
I have no idea why these were the sets that they chose, and it just seems weird.
jordan holmes
Four years is about how long it takes for a pregnant woman to give birth, and you can only collect urine when they give birth.
dan friesen
They're not all pregnant people, though.
jordan holmes
But they could be within four years.
dan friesen
So for their 2017 data, that's the one from the pregnant folks, they say they got 21 samples from the pregnant people in South America.
Can we call these people?
jordan holmes
They exist, right?
We can call them and be like, dude, you guys did such a bad job.
dan friesen
Well, we were playing piss pong the other day.
jordan holmes
We got them all in cups, and then we didn't know who drank whose, so we had to put them all in the same thing!
dan friesen
Piss is fungible.
jordan holmes
We got a little jungle juice of piss going on.
dan friesen
Yep, and we found chloroquine.
unidentified
Great.
jordan holmes
Great, that's science, baby.
dan friesen
I have some issues with the information presented in this study, and it makes sense because three of the four authors of the study work for the Environmental Working Group, an organization that's known for making exaggerated claims and who have been accused of being a political tool of the organic farming industry.
In the past, their methodology has been examined and found to, quote, lack scientific credibility.
And I would suspect that this is another case of that.
The group put this out as a means of furthering advocacy around organic farming, and now Alex has picked it up and is morphing it into a means to delegitimize trans identity.
He doesn't have a leg to stand on here in terms of the actual information, but that's never stopped him before, and I don't even think he really has a grasp on any of this.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He hasn't read anything past, like, maybe a headline in a blog.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't have a 100% grasp on this other than to say it looks like rich folk be doing it again.
I don't know what to tell you.
dan friesen
I have a hard time getting past the piss, honestly.
jordan holmes
I really do!
What are you doing?
dan friesen
Yeah.
What are you doing?
It calls for alarm.
jordan holmes
If you come to me with this array of piss and no explanation, no detailed explanation, even if your explanation was like, look at all this piss, we found it, I'd be like, that's better than, here's the piss.
dan friesen
I don't think that it's a setup.
That controls.
You know what I mean?
It's not a good experimental setup.
jordan holmes
No, it's absurd.
dan friesen
And so I need a little more.
jordan holmes
It's a childish setup.
dan friesen
It is something that he's able to twist into being something that supports the bigoted worldview that he wants.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he doesn't give a shit.
Why look deeper into it if you're only going to possibly end up poking holes in your own fun?
jordan holmes
Yeah, and I imagine that the organic farm growth people don't think about the possible ripple effects of Lying.
dan friesen
Well, I don't...
Yeah, I...
It's difficult for me to know what they're up to.
That's the way I'd put it.
I don't know what they're up to.
jordan holmes
Stealing pregnant women's piss!
dan friesen
They bought it.
So look...
jordan holmes
See, now I've been torrenting piss for 20 years.
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah.
All right.
jordan holmes
Come on now.
dan friesen
So, we don't have any clips of this, but Viva Frye comes on to complain about the New York judgment against Trump.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It's very boring, and it makes me wonder, where's Bobby Barnes?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a good question.
dan friesen
Because Frye and Barnes host a show together, and so, like, was Barnes busy?
jordan holmes
Right, so they sent in B-Team Barnes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Co-host with Bobby Barnes.
I think maybe, I don't know.
I don't know if I've just missed some episodes that Barnes is around and I just conveniently never see him.
jordan holmes
It's been a long time since I've heard him.
dan friesen
Maybe they don't like each other all that much.
Maybe.
I don't know.
No, because if he didn't like him, then he wouldn't have his co-host on.
I would assume.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Or it's that great way to insult somebody who you don't like, but who you still have to maintain a professional working relationship.
dan friesen
All I'm saying is we've come a long way from Barnes essentially trying to take over Infowars with his own show and being Alex's lawyer.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
That has preceded a little bit.
unidentified
Good times.
dan friesen
So after this interview, Alex gets into a mood.
Remember that Outer Context drop?
We're getting towards that.
alex jones
Bible out.
I believe our most important work is still to combat.
Regardless, we put 30 years into this fight, everything else from here is pure gravy.
Because now, I've said a thousand times or more on air, my goal is to become obsolete.
My goal is for people to finally get there under attack and start researching the New World Order's battle plans.
They've been so arrogant, almost all of it's public.
And it's starting to happen.
It's starting to happen.
Now, unfortunately, so much of the plan is already in place.
They have passed the event horizon or the point of no return.
The system is going to crash.
But will it be a controlled crash, a survivable crash, or unsurvivable?
I wished I could turn this around, but I can read the Bible.
We don't.
And it's before the beast wages war against the saints and overcomes them, read Revelation, that then you have a few years of hell and then the greatest revival ever seen comes out of that.
So the devil doesn't win when he wins that battle.
dan friesen
Right, it's the battle versus the war.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So this is the news.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex is doing a news show, a very serious show about how revelation is real.
jordan holmes
Hey, I read Alabama's state Supreme Court writes, listen, Jesus Christ should be the person who makes all our laws.
So, hey, what are you going to do?
dan friesen
I mean, I don't think that's the news either.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, well.
dan friesen
So Alex is already obsolete because of how the internet and social media has evolved.
He has a great legacy in terms of harming the public information space, but there's millions of him on Twitter at this point.
No one needs his dumbass.
That said, if his goal was to make people research the claims he's made, I've done that, and I've found he's full of shit.
He has a habit of making things up, and he greatly exaggerates anything he's even close to being right about.
And tons of the primary sources he's based his worldview on are frauds, like silent weapons for quiet wars, or just things he's entirely...
He's going on about how he's coming up on 30 years on air, and honestly, it's hard to look at that and see anything of value that he's added to the world.
He's led people astray from pursuing legitimate curiosity, he promotes a ton of societal bigotry, and with his health advice, he's probably been an indirect contributing factor in a number of deaths.
And it's for nothing.
It's for nothing.
jordan holmes
No, he made himself very rich.
dan friesen
That's true.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's true?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I mean, I was looking at the sort of macro.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
I mean, I don't know.
That's a good question.
I feel like if I were him, my goal, if I were real him, if I was what I said I was, then isn't my goal to be killed by the government?
dan friesen
I think that would be the greatest validation.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
Like, I am here to do things that are extreme enough to force the government to kill me.
dan friesen
Your goal is to be like Quaid in Men in Black.
Not Men in Black.
jordan holmes
Independence Day.
Wait, are you sure you don't mean Total Recall?
dan friesen
No, Independence Day, when he flies into the spaceship.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah, Randy Quaid.
I was thinking, Quaid, start the reaction.
dan friesen
No, your goal is to be that.
Go out in a blaze of glory.
jordan holmes
Go out into the, yeah, fuck you, up your, that whole thing.
That should be you.
You're not the guy giving the Independence Day speech.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You're not Bill Pullman.
dan friesen
But neither was Quaid.
jordan holmes
No, but that's what I'm saying.
Pullman is not Alex Jones, right?
Quaid is Alex Jones!
dan friesen
Pullman is Tucker.
jordan holmes
Something like that.
Who cares?
dan friesen
Maybe Rogan.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Whatever you want.
dan friesen
Certainly.
Well, it's Trump.
It's gotta be Trump, right?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
But the point is, you're the guy who blows up the ship.
You're not the guy...
dan friesen
You don't get to live to see the positive end result or whatever.
That is success in Alex's schema.
jordan holmes
You are meant to sacrifice yourself, and that sacrifice is what is necessary to bring about the positive world that you want.
dan friesen
Right.
And because this has not happened and isn't happening...
Whatever happens.
Alex has turned his own consequences and his legal battles into him flying into the alien mothership or whatever.
So he's trying to really force the positive outcome that his sort of character is supposed to entail.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he knows that's what he's supposed to be doing.
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's...
jordan holmes
But he can't, because he's a coward.
dan friesen
Because there's no alien mothership, too.
jordan holmes
There are no alien mothership.
That is true.
That is true.
You are pointing out a very good point.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, this just creeped me out.
alex jones
And I am just extremely not proud, not invigorated, but satisfied.
jordan holmes
Don't say it like that.
alex jones
I've never in my life been so satisfied growing up.
I was a great-looking guy and strong and smart and had anything I wanted.
Hang out with the coolest people, have all the best women, but I wasn't satisfied.
dan friesen
You all right, man?
alex jones
And it wasn't until I went under the attack of the New World Order and committed to this war that I had become so satisfied that I don't even feel like I've been alive until 10 years ago.
I'm a totally different man.
And the reason I tell everybody that is this.
All these evil people keep committing acts of evil, thinking it's going to satisfy them, and they keep upping the ante, doing worse and worse things, thinking magically somehow they're going to be satisfied, and you're not going to become satisfied until you learn the truth and then stand for the truth, and then you are persecuted for the truth.
Because I'm not a sadomasochist.
I don't like pain.
Until now, weirdo.
jordan holmes
Oh, for God's sake.
dan friesen
So ten years, huh?
That's interesting, because that's certainly not when Alex started fighting the globalists.
It certainly wasn't when he started being persecuted for fighting the globalists.
That is incidentally right around when Alex started selling supplements and making insane amounts of money.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
A cynical person could hear this and say that Alex is being fairly truthful, that he never knew satisfaction until about ten years ago because he became super rich after that point.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, it is strange.
It is strange to listen to him talk because it's like...
Of all the things that you are satisfied, like, you are a yawning black chasm of unsatisfaction.
It can never be filled.
It can't.
It is not possible to fill it.
You know how I know?
Because you could physically escape the consequences that are legendary.
You have the resources to escape those and live comfortably for the rest of your life, and yet you're still on the fucking air.
That means that you have a need that will never be filled.
dan friesen
Well, that's, yeah, I mean, he has a need.
To be the hero who, you know, destroys the alien mothership, basically.
And that is unfortunate.
So he rambles for a long time about the globalists rejecting God and what have you.
jordan holmes
Well, they do.
dan friesen
We'll get into a little bit of that take here.
alex jones
But I'm not looking to try to convert them.
They've committed the ultimate sin.
They have refused the Holy Spirit.
It's unbelievable.
unidentified
It is unbelievable!
alex jones
Wow.
Okay.
You just refused absolute perfection, absolute eternity, total consciousness.
You don't have that, but you are literally in Congress with that.
You are interfacing.
God is the groom.
You are the bride.
You are literally being...
Brought into a system of ascension.
And just as the blasters, just as the main engines, if you watch how a rocket takes off, it's moving a few inches a second at first, then a few feet, then a hundred feet a second, then a thousand feet a second, and you watch it take off slow, and then...
I mean, you immediately dial into this, and it's like the engine...
unidentified
Cool.
alex jones
I mean, the difference between Christ energy and satanic energy is not even a difference.
It's not even the same universe.
It's so pathetic.
jordan holmes
Different?
alex jones
When you look at this judge in New York, Ingeron, or Leticia James, or V.I. Lennon, or Mao Zedong.
dan friesen
Big jump.
jordan holmes
Is that a district attorney?
alex jones
You look at these sacks of weakness.
And you ask, how could something be this disgusting?
They love it.
They think it's funny.
jordan holmes
It is funny.
alex jones
And so I hope they revel in their time.
Because the devil sends the beast with wrath because he knows his time is short.
My time is not short.
dan friesen
I'm going to just go out on a limb.
I don't think Alex is quoting the Bible.
I think that's Iron Maiden.
I think he's quoting Iron Maiden.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
There's something that's just so disappointing about these protracted rants about demons and Christ energy and all this stuff.
And then it's like, I'm complaining about Trump's lawsuit.
It's really what you're doing.
It's a grounding of the divine in the banal.
And I find that to be just like, I don't know.
I know that you have a strong opposition, essentially, to spiritual things.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I don't fully share that, necessarily.
unidentified
No, no, no.
dan friesen
But I'm also not a fully spiritual person myself.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But I have a little bit more respect for the idea of it.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I think that this is disrespectful to divinity.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The way that this is also cheaply thrown around for these...
Little political points.
It's just...
I don't know.
I find it very weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, it was...
It's so interesting because I didn't understand truly what it meant when you took the Lord's name in vain.
If that makes sense, you know?
dan friesen
You thought it was just saying goddamn or something.
jordan holmes
Whenever I was growing up, that was the context that it was always explained to me.
It was never made clear exactly what it was.
Because I don't think people really understood the concept, you know?
The idea of diminishing God, that is taking the Lord's name in vain.
And to diminish something that is infinite could not be done better.
Could not be more accurately done than if you gave Alex a microphone.
dan friesen
It does feel that way.
I don't know.
It's not for me to be offended by, necessarily.
I don't have a stake fully in it.
Just objectively, just externally see it, and I think this is probably, if I did have those beliefs, if I was somebody who believed and was, you know, Christian in inclination, I would be offended by this.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
I think it would be kind of a misuse of the divine.
jordan holmes
No, whenever I was a believer, the only people that I truly hated were Christians.
Like, truly, because...
Because everything that I ever talked about when I believed was from a point of, this is true.
There's no getting around it.
It doesn't even matter if it's good or bad.
Bad and good don't exist whenever this is true.
You just do it, right?
Because there's God.
And then so many people would be like, well, no big deal.
It's like, I can't live in this.
I can't live in a world where there is a God, but also, everything's cool.
God is kind of a big deal in my world.
dan friesen
Right, right.
So, Alex, I think this episode has just devolved into what I would describe as him lazily preaching, like, really slowly.
alex jones
I will be grafted into God's consciousness if I'm successful.
And I pray I will be.
And I will be eternal.
unidentified
You won't.
alex jones
Imagine an eternity cut off from God.
Everything we have, God gave us.
Everything we are, God made us.
And you would deny your father.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yeah, totally.
What?
What are you, crazy?
alex jones
Alright, let's shift out of the preaching.
And let's talk about the news, because I've...
Prepare it, as usual, quite a bit for this broadcast.
I come here usually and prepare for seven, eight hours, and then cover one-tenth of it, and that's okay.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
alex jones
In all my research, I can then understand the enemy's operations and how to counter it.
But I'll just say this.
I am so sad for all of you that have not chosen God.
dan friesen
So you're going to stop the preaching?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he's sad.
dan friesen
I think he's on a depressant.
That's probably true.
jordan holmes
I like the idea that there was that moment where I was like, but that's okay.
That I immediately got the idea of an alcoholic Mr. Rogers just walking in, like, talking to himself.
The way that Mr. Rogers would soothingly talk to the camera.
As you were a child, you would watch him and you would go, thank God, this person is so stable.
I don't have to worry about, I don't have to turn around and then see all that stuff.
I got Mr. Rogers there.
But imagine if it was an alcoholic just walking in like, I don't need to change my shoes!
That's okay.
dan friesen
I prepared for eight hours to walk through the neighborhood.
It's a lovely day, but that's okay.
unidentified
Let's go talk to the puppets.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
jordan holmes
The puppets make me feel better.
dan friesen
It's a bad vibe.
jordan holmes
It's a bad vibe.
dan friesen
Studio.
Not great.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So Alex jumps from the preaching over into complaining about the...
The news.
Well, yeah, sure.
The UN pandemic treaty.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He's upset about that.
unidentified
Right, right.
alex jones
And so now we see...
The United Nations and their world government pandemic treaty that openly takes control of every major government at the government's invitation.
Hedro said a few weeks ago, we don't make you do it, you sign it.
We don't control you and lock you in your house and make you take shots.
Your governments do.
jordan holmes
I mean, that already happened, right?
alex jones
And so their treaty, the final version of it published weeks ago, They say they're probably going to run a new one.
Whatever they say is a lie.
Final version.
Well, you know, there'll be ten more versions or more.
And Ted Rose says, oh, there'll be disease X and disease Y and disease Z. And if you don't sign on to the treaty, I can't protect you.
That's called putting a gun to your head.
It's called holding you hostage.
dan friesen
It sounds real fucked up.
You know?
Things have taken a real shift in terms of mannerism delivery.
jordan holmes
I will say that my number one complaint with that clip is that was maybe the most opportune time for a rhyme.
I can think of.
dan friesen
Where would you have put it?
jordan holmes
I mean, the word...
unidentified
That we close for thee!
jordan holmes
You know, like, it's very simple.
He started with an E, and then you end with an E, and instead he said you!
It's very frustrating.
dan friesen
Well, you know, Alex is nothing if not...
Unsatisfying.
unidentified
And it's an evil manifestation of stuff.
jordan holmes
Of course they rhyme.
They're demons.
Demons are supposed to rhyme.
dan friesen
Yeah, the snake loves word games, as we learned years ago.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
The dukes of hell always rhyme.
dan friesen
So Alex's talk about this pandemic preparedness treaty is cartoon-level shit, and it's impossible to take this seriously.
International organizations looking at the mistakes that were made in the response to COVID and trying to see how we can all do better the next time is not putting a gun to anyone's head.
But you have to understand that Alex...
That's all fake.
And the people who are running the World Health Organization are the people who unleash the pandemic.
It's really impossible to have a coherent argument about the subject with him because he exists in an entirely different reality.
There are many valid criticisms of the draft proposals for the World Health Organization treaty coming from groups like Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch who feel like the drafts don't do enough to protect all human rights and ensure that all people are able to benefit from scientific advancements.
Like, here's a complaint that the Human Rights Watch had.
Quote, the draft treaty says that requirements for preparedness, readiness and resilience are subject to applicable laws and national laws.
But domestic law cannot be used as an excuse for failure to comply with provisions and international treaties to which governments are party.
Even more concerning is that parties appeared merely to be encouraged to, quote, adopt policies, strategies or measures, but not comply with specific laws.
One of the most fundamental complaints that many groups have about the draft proposal is that it's not enough like what Alex is describing.
There is no set guidelines that are to be followed by people signing on to the treaty.
And thus, it's a weak framework.
jordan holmes
The UN is probably the most disappointing conspiracy theory organization that's ever existed.
Because I can't think of anything binding.
I can think of everything non-binding.
dan friesen
There probably are some things, but yeah, there are many more instances you can draw to mind of things that are like, that should have been binding.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Not binding.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
If it's not binding, then you're not really a conspiracy.
dan friesen
That is true.
jordan holmes
That's just my rule.
That's my rule.
dan friesen
So yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's just...
Alex thinks that they're threatening to release a bioweapon if you don't sign the treaty.
It's all just like, why even do this?
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And if that's the case, then you have justified more crimes than you can imagine by not immediately getting an army together and attacking the UN, right?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, the alternative...
Well, I guess it would be the World Health Organization in this case.
Sure, sure, but yeah.
Like, yeah, I guess it would because you would be effectively stopping...
International terrorist group that releases bioweapons on civilian populations.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
You have no choice.
dan friesen
There is essentially no end that would not be justified.
Nothing you could do.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So yeah, I guess that is kind of an implication of what Alex is saying.
jordan holmes
Yep, but his way of dealing with that is just like...
Well, you know, give me some money.
dan friesen
Spread my articles around.
Amazing.
Let's boost awareness.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So there was a summit recently.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
There's a globalist-y summit that Alex wants to complain about.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And there's Tedros up there at the World Government Forum.
At the World Government Summit.
Oh, the New York Times and the Washington Post.
jordan holmes
New York Times!
alex jones
They say there's no world government.
It's a conspiracy theory.
It's a pipe dream.
It's a lie.
But there they are at their World Government Summit in Dubai.
dan friesen
It's not the World Government Summit.
It's World Governments Summit as it relates to the governments of the world, not a one-world government.
I know that Alex is an idiot, but there's a fairly simple distinction.
Also, is Alex pretending that Tucker Carlson wasn't a speaker at that summit, and in fact that was where Tucker said that it didn't matter that Putin killed Navalny because leaders have to kill people?
That seems strange.
jordan holmes
Eh, what are you gonna do?
dan friesen
By the way, that interview that Tucker did is ridiculous.
I don't want to spin off and cover that entire thing, but there's a little clip I want to play for you here where Tucker seems to endorse authoritarianism for a weird reason.
unidentified
Cool.
tucker carlson
What was radicalizing, very shocking and very disturbing for me was the city of Moscow, where I'd never been, the biggest city in Europe, 13 million people.
And it is so much nicer than any city in my country.
I had no idea.
My father spent a lot of time there in the 80s when he worked for the U.S. government and barely had electricity.
jordan holmes
Wait!
tucker carlson
It is so much cleaner and safer and prettier aesthetically.
It's architecture.
It's food.
It's service.
Than any city in the United States that you have to...
And this is non-ideological.
How did that happen?
How did that happen?
And at a certain point, I don't think the average person cares as much about abstractions as about the concrete reality of life.
And if you can't use your subway, for example, as many people are afraid to in New York City because it's too dangerous, you have to sort of wonder, like, isn't that the ultimate measure of leadership?
And that's true.
By the way, it's radicalizing for an American to go to Moscow.
I didn't know that.
I've learned it this week.
To Singapore, to Tokyo, to Dubai and Abu Dhabi.
Because these cities, no matter how we're told they're run and on what principles they're run, are wonderful places to live.
They don't have rampant inflation where you're not going to get raped.
Sir, excuse me.
jordan holmes
What is that?
Except for by the government.
unidentified
Are you anti-American model?
tucker carlson
No.
I am the most pro-American.
So I'm 54. I was born in 1989.
I grew up in a country that had cities like Moscow and Abu Dhabi and Dubai and Singapore and Tokyo.
And we no longer have them.
And what I have discovered is that's a voluntary choice.
As inflation is, as you heard in that fascinating last panel, inflation is the product of choices made mostly by the central bank, not exclusively, but by policymakers.
Crime, same.
You don't have to have crime, actually.
unidentified
My children don't smoke marijuana at the breakfast table.
tucker carlson
Because I don't allow them.
It's very simple.
And you can run your country the same way.
We're not going to put up with that, so don't do it.
And people understand that.
jordan holmes
Amazing.
tucker carlson
Filth, graffiti, Paris, one of my favorite cities, New York, one of my favorite cities, are filthy.
And part of the reason they're filthy is because people spray paint obscenities on buildings and no one cleans up.
So that encourages more people to do the same.
And our policymakers, for some reason, don't notice this.
dan friesen
What is happening?
jordan holmes
I mean, hey, listen.
dan friesen
This is a ridiculous perspective for him to have.
jordan holmes
Listen, all of the rest of you are fine with rich people, so you fucking go get them or don't.
I don't care.
I wash my hands of that.
If you don't understand exactly what he just said, then fuck you.
dan friesen
Well, I want to take it and tease this thought out a tiny bit.
This idea that...
Crime is a choice that the society has.
You don't have to have it.
And the way that he contextualizes this is my children don't smoke weed at the table because I tell them they can't.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So he's more or less saying you should have a parental relationship with the government.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The government should be your parents saying you do not smoke weed at the table.
I feel like that's antithetical to literally everything that him and his community believe about these abstract ideas about freedom and how important freedom of speech and the press and blah blah blah are.
No, he wants authoritarian rule because streets are too dirty.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
Well, I mean, I think a lot of people believe things about America, which is nice.
And I love them for it.
And I hope they continue doing it.
unidentified
But...
jordan holmes
If you have the tradition of Alexander Hamilton as your intellectual superior, then yeah, of course you want a fucking king.
White men only.
The end.
What don't people understand about America?
dan friesen
That's not totally what he's saying.
It's just he doesn't like graffiti.
Yes, it is!
He doesn't like graffiti.
jordan holmes
Yes, it is!
dan friesen
He doesn't like graffiti.
jordan holmes
White men only.
What else do you want?
Just say it.
dan friesen
This is a shocking thing.
To here, I guess.
jordan holmes
Not anymore!
dan friesen
Well, no.
That's kind of...
I guess I'm being a little facetious.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
dan friesen
But it's shocking that he articulates it this way.
You know what I mean?
But I guess there is an advantage to this, and that is that he's at a world government summit.
jordan holmes
Do you know what?
Here's something that I hadn't thought about.
I have actually talked to a lot of rich people.
Like, really rich people.
Like...
Absurdly rich people.
dan friesen
By way of the podcast?
jordan holmes
By way of hearing aids.
So when I was doing hearing aids, when I was going around doing hearing aids and all that stuff, I found my way into a lot of very odd places for a me.
dan friesen
And there are people who are talking louder than they should because they need hearing aids.
So you can overhear them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
People have no idea what rich people think.
And everybody abstractly has this idea of like...
Oh, their lives are different, so they're sequestered or they don't understand what it's like for real people or anything like that.
You have no fucking clue what world they live in.
None.
If you listen to any rich person talk for longer than ten minutes, you will hear absolutely insane shit.
Because you have to justify the fact that you get everything and everyone else gets nothing.
So you believe insane things, because the only reason that is is because of insane shit.
If you are a sane person, you go, well, there's no reason for that.
That's absurd.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I feel like that's probably a part of where Tucker's coming from.
jordan holmes
Also, his dad...
Was in Moscow in the 80s?
dan friesen
Quite a bit of time.
jordan holmes
Are we not thinking that he's a Russian?
dan friesen
No, his dad works for Voice of America, right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
But Alex thinks that's a CIA front.
jordan holmes
Tons of CIA people were Russian spies, man.
I'm telling you right now, Tucker is the Americans.
dan friesen
Okay, you heard it here first.
rob agueros
Yep.
dan friesen
So we get back to Alex, and he's complaining more about Tedros, because he was also at that world summit that Alex is ignoring that Tucker was at.
alex jones
So, you better pass our treaty, or we can't protect you from the new disease that's coming.
What person in their right mind, not knowing the history of biological testing on different countries, including the U.S., or how they cooked it up in a lab, or how the poison shots erased your immune system, and how they create spike proteins from HIV in your body, and you're sitting there watching a guy that murdered over a million of his people.
Under UN orders not to give medicine to people that had cholera.
Christians he killed.
To make room for the Muslims.
And you just sit there and you think, why in the hell would anybody listen to this guy?
Well, they're not.
The average American still got a movie they're going to go to.
Or a Netflix show they're going to watch.
Or some party they're going to go to.
Because you know what?
I'm not going to let...
The world get in the way of my fun.
But you look at those people that spend all their time in entertainment and all their time just having fun.
They are the most miserable people on earth.
While this globalist wants to own your body.
jordan holmes
That's you.
alex jones
We're just supposed to sit back and say, that's okay.
Fannie Willis can persecute the real president of the United States trying to put him in prison.
For questioning election fraud, she's black, so it's okay.
unidentified
Cool.
jordan holmes
Now we're doing it.
alex jones
Now we're doing it.
jordan holmes
Let's do it.
alex jones
It's okay if the UN and the Clintons kill...
Millions of Christians in Rwanda.
jordan holmes
White hood off.
dan friesen
They're liberals.
unidentified
This is getting...
dan friesen
This is the part of the night where your drunk uncle is starting to get into his feel as a little racist oats.
unidentified
Ugh.
dan friesen
Starting to get scattered.
jordan holmes
I love it.
I'm...
Here's the thing, right?
Like, this is just such stuff that we should learn from as like...
unidentified
This is what Alex believed 20 years ago.
jordan holmes
He didn't change.
dan friesen
No, he hid it better.
unidentified
He changed.
dan friesen
Well, he hid it better, too.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
He hid it better.
And also, you just didn't need to say most of this stuff because everybody believed it.
You didn't need to say, oh, I don't like blank, blank, blank for this reason.
Everybody was thinking it.
dan friesen
Or there was kind of like acceptable codes that people on the right wing used.
rob agueros
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
So also, Alex has some of the basic facts here wrong about the accusation he's making against Tedros, the director general of the World Health Organization.
Tedros was the health minister for Ethiopia between 2005 and 2012, then foreign minister until 2016.
And when he was running for his position at the WHO, he was accused of covering up cholera outbreaks.
There's not concrete evidence necessarily that he did.
I'd do that, and there's no way to put the number anywhere near as...
For instance, there was an outbreak in 2009, which caused 193 deaths.
That's terrible, and I'm not minimizing it, but I'm just saying that Alex is way off on this.
You can determine your own feeling about whether or not Tedros was covering things up.
The Ethiopian officials claimed that there were cases of acute watery diarrhea, but they didn't have positive testing that indicated cholera.
In any case, the UN was pushing for more aid to be sent.
So Alex's theory that Tedros' actions were at the behest of the UN Just doesn't make any sense.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's just on one.
rob agueros
Yeah.
dan friesen
And of course it veers into feelings about race because of course it does.
jordan holmes
Because he's a racist.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Because if you don't have any reason beyond I'm a racist misogynist you start making shit up and then when you run out of shit to make up and you're lazy all of a sudden you go You know I hate black people, right?
dan friesen
So Alex, now that he's back on Twitter, we know that he's been going on Spaces a lot.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
But also, apparently, he's been posting videos of black-on-white crimes.
I'm sorry?
jordan holmes
What?
That's his hobby now?
dan friesen
Well, apparently he's been doing a bit of that, and people have said, hey man, why are you doing that?
jordan holmes
What the fuck?
dan friesen
What's your problem?
jordan holmes
What the fuck?
dan friesen
So he talks about that a little bit here.
alex jones
When I publish on X or InfoWars, I think it's five, ten million views.
Just some white man walking down the street and ten black people run over and beat him to death.
And I see the comments from liberals going, why are you promoting racism?
If there was video of ten white people beating a black person to death, I would instantly publish it and instantly say it was wrong.
But I can't sit here...
All these brutal attacks the leftists promote and the Soros-controlled DAs have let the criminals and others the green line to rob and kill white people and then say it's okay to have open season on white people.
I'm against open season on black people.
I care about everybody.
I fight against the fact that over half the abortions in this country with blacks only being 13% of the population.
jordan holmes
I care about them when they are not alive.
But when they're alive, I hate them.
alex jones
And we all are made by God, and I'm against that.
But I will not sit here, and I will not watch and see the crime statistics.
20 to 1 black on white crime.
Look it up.
The Fed tried to suppress it.
Because they're advertising, go kill the white people, and say that's okay.
dan friesen
So to be clear, Alex is very racist.
We've illustrated this over and over again.
And if he was somehow forced to report on a video of a group of white people attacking a black person, you can safely bet that he would have reported it as being the black person's fault.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
And I don't need to assume that he would.
That's literally what Alex has done in the past.
There was video of Travis and Gregory McMichael murdering Ahmaud Arbery because they assumed he was a burglar because he was jogging in their neighborhood.
Alex spent a whole lot of time creating excuses for the murder and saying, oh gee, I don't think he should be murdered.
Maybe he was a criminal.
There was video of George Floyd being killed by the police and Mr. Police State Guy Alex Jones spent incalculable amounts of time on his show covering stories meant to give the impression that maybe Floyd deserved it.
Maybe it was his fault that he got killed.
Alex is so full of shit on this, and the reality is that one of the show's primary editorial goals is stoking white fear.
It's consistent through his coverage, and trotting out black abortion statistics doesn't make you less racist.
It means you're an anti-abortion zealot who's using black abortion rates as a prop.
Misrepresentations of crime statistics are one of the major tools used by white supremacists to radicalize people, and it was that radicalizing point for many people who've carried out racially-motivated They have said so.
A fact.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Alex is just wrong, but he's, you know, really gotten pretty far off track here.
Like, I feel like this was supposed to be a segment where he was covering his really bad fears about the World Health Organization pandemic preparedness treaty, but he just remembered that Tedros was black and he's just ranting like a racist drunk.
This is awful.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I am amazed how many people we've let get away with saying, I only care about black people before they're born or after they die.
Mm-hmm.
Hey, listen, whatever it is you say about those black people that are being hurt by the government, fuck you.
There are unborn black people that aren't okay.
And also, I love Martin Luther King Jr.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
The end of number of black people I love.
dan friesen
So Alex has gotten some criticism for posting these videos.
jordan holmes
What for?
dan friesen
I don't know.
And it turns out that this is not going to achieve the goal of him stopping.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a surprise.
alex jones
So I told everybody, the more you bully me, and the more you tell me not to cover this, the more I will cover it.
So you don't get one post a week of racist blacks attacking whites.
You get five a day now.
And keep complaining.
Because the real issue is...
Why can I find 50 videos a day of racist black people attacking white people, but I can't find one a day of white people?
And when it occasionally happens, it's the top story of the country, because they all want us killing each other.
And use your brains, black people, you're smart.
And white people, you're smart.
When everybody sees this being done to whites, and no one's told it's part of a globalist sorrows or war plan.
Whites are going to become anti-black when the vast majority of black people are hard-working good folks and do not support this.
So black and white have to come out and say no war on white people, no knockout games, no Rob Whitey, none of this, which the majority of blacks are for.
They're against that.
So am I. We have to get past this Soros operation and decry it for what it is.
And then we can save the unborn children no matter what color they are to have beautiful souls made by God.
dan friesen
It's almost impossible to listen to this without doing like a head wobble.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like doing a about to pass out.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Just...
So I went scrolling through Alex's Twitter timeline, and he's definitely posting occasional videos from TikTok that he finds of fights, but they don't really make a coherent point.
Yeah.
Incidentally, he also repeatedly posted videos of the Nazis marching in Nashville recently and commented, quote, feds on the move.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I guess that wasn't a group of racist white people.
And if they ended up beating up somebody, I guess it would have just been the feds, so no worries there.
Nothing to worry about.
I was looking at his Twitter to get a sense of what he was posting, and basically he'll just retweet any case he finds where there's a black perpetrator or something and comment, quote, white supremacy is the number one threat facing America.
It's pretty dumb, but something I thought was more fun is when he reposted that video.
You know, I don't know if you saw this.
There was a video where a cop got scared by an acorn falling on his car and then just started unloading.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah!
Yeah, yeah, yeah!
No, cops are great!
dan friesen
So Alex posted that video with the caption, quote, they should transfer her as a diversity hire to the FAA so she can fly large passenger jets.
What harm could she do?
My man was so blinded by his desire to throw out some kind of culture war meme dunk that he just decided this male cop was a woman.
Alex's point in the clip that we just listened to is incoherent.
Posting WorldStar videos isn't some kind of bold activism.
He's just trying to excite his racist audience who are addicted to feeling like they're under attack.
These videos affirm those feelings, so they eat that shit up, and Alex is pretending there's some sort of grander point to it, and there's not.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So Alex has, I mean, just...
You could be fair to say that he's full of racism, and it's a huge mess.
But, of course, that leads into, hey, let's talk about how I shouldn't feel bad about slavery.
alex jones
The idea that you're guilty because you're white because some white person hundreds of years ago had slaves is preposterous.
jordan holmes
The president!
alex jones
And the idea that you're black and some black ancestor did something is just ridiculous.
If your dad commits a murder and you weren't part of it, you're not guilty.
How the hell is somebody 500 years ago, how are you guilty of that?
jordan holmes
If you're rich because of it.
alex jones
I can show you a video of slave auctions going on all over Africa currently.
And so I decided to post one of these.
Women and children being sold for as cheap as $400 apiece.
From Libya in the north all the way down to central Africa and the Congo.
And the Christian areas of Africa do not allow slavery.
It's a fact.
The Muslim areas and the animus areas, they worship animals.
dan friesen
They have it.
alex jones
So there are tens of millions of slaves in Africa right now.
I have all the numbers right here.
So I posted a video on X yesterday that's got millions and millions and millions of views of reportedly an auction.
Why did you say reportedly?
Usually it's Christians they capture.
And they have them in bags as a presentation of the women to have kids around the house who'll do work for them and work in the fields and do all the rest of it.
And people said, oh no, there's no slavery in Africa.
Then I saw comments by prominent people on X saying white people invented slavery.
The most continual institution in human populations since recorded history 7,000 years ago is slavery.
Okay?
So, everybody did it.
None of us are guilty for it.
Those people are all long dead.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Everybody did it!
alex jones
But the point is, is that they're trying to create this guilt to create this division and act like modern white people have something to do with what happened in the past.
dan friesen
Alex doesn't need to feel guilty personally about slavery, but that has nothing to do with the point that people make about the legacy of slavery and how it affects people still today.
He can keep responding to fake points because they help him feel better, but it's...
Further, Alex keeps flashing like he's flashing his source up on the screen, and it's a CNN report from 2017 about a slave auction in Libya, which is ironic since Alex keeps telling me that the mainstream media is covering this stuff up.
They want you to think that only white people ever do slavery, and yet Alex's source is the mainstream media.
The reporting on this was actually very clear.
What happens is that there are thousands of refugees in Libya who are waiting to be taken by smugglers to the coast.
And to quote CNN, quote, He does not care if they have to live in slavery as long as they don't come here.
All this concern he's pretending to show is entirely fake.
They're a prop to him.
Also, on our last episode, Alex was trying to justify Putin's horrible actions by saying, that's a Russia issue.
So by the same token, shouldn't he see slavery in other countries as that country's issue?
Seems like he's got a bit of an inconsistent standard here, and I wonder why.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is so much like this.
This...
unidentified
What would I say?
jordan holmes
You know, the instinct is to say, like, animalian of some sort.
But I mean more like, just...
Natural, just pure nature, you know, without that level of self-awareness is just the way that he avoids feeling.
You know, just like...
The way that he responds to something that will make him feel bad with, like, a shrinking and just like a, well, here's why it's okay for them.
And the way he responds to things that make him feel good.
He just runs into and makes everything up as much as he can, you know?
Like, there's a certain purity to the fact that he's incapable of thinking clearly, you know?
dan friesen
Or you could argue that it is thinking incredibly clearly down manufactured paths.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Would there be a difference?
dan friesen
I'm not sure from the outside you could tell.
jordan holmes
Yeah, fascinating.
dan friesen
Yeah, also fascinating is England.
jordan holmes
What did they do now?
dan friesen
They ended slavery.
alex jones
You can look this up.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
alex jones
About 220 years ago, the abolition movement had started really 300 years ago in England.
But about 220 years ago, they got control of the parliament.
And England, you could say, use it as an excuse, but they banned slavery in the entire...
Areas they control.
They went to war with eight different countries over the next 30 years to try to end slavery.
So if you want to give credit to anybody, England and the British Empire is who did it.
But it's still going on in the Middle East.
It's still going on in Africa.
It's still going on in some areas of the Pacific.
So I want to roll some of this video.
slavery still practiced across large areas of Africa, but because it's black-on-black slavery, the Western media will not cover it.
dan friesen
So the media won't cover this, except that Alex has used CNN as a source, and many of the details, like the $400 figure, comes directly from that article.
Sure.
unidentified
Almost like Alex himself is proving that there isn't a cover-up, but pretending there is plays into the white identity narratives that Alex promotes about how the media only allows negative coverage of white people.
dan friesen
I'd be interested to know what Alex thinks those eight wars that England fought were to end slavery, England did send out, like, naval patrol boats to try to disrupt the Atlantic slave trade, and there is a lot of, you know, solid...
I can't think of any way to read history where that makes sense.
jordan holmes
I can't even think of a fictional history where that makes sense.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Like the turnaround.
It would have to be so instantaneous that it would defy all imagination.
And entire people just suddenly deciding.
dan friesen
Well, there was an abolition movement, and they did engage in naval...
Sure.
Against slave trafficking.
That is definitely true.
jordan holmes
I mean, and it's illegal to own slaves here, but there are a lot of people who are still totally cool with it.
dan friesen
And there's a rich legacy in the United States of by another name.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex is really trying to drive home that the media is covering this up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that kind of is hindered by him reading a bunch of headlines from the mainstream media.
jordan holmes
Oh, for God's sakes, man.
alex jones
So here's some headlines.
Inside the smuggler's warehouse, Africa's 21st century slave trades.
Irish Times.
Inside the modern slave trade, trapping African migrants.
Time Magazine.
Slave markets found on Instagram and other apps.
jordan holmes
Bastion of right-wing thoughts, Time Magazine.
alex jones
White and black slaves.
People for sale, where lives are auctioned for $400, CNN.
Markers from West Africa are being sold in Libyan slave markets, The Guardian.
Okay, so we're not making this up, and we're not lessening peoples whose ancestors 180 years ago were slaves, for God's sakes.
jordan holmes
In what way are you not doing that?
dan friesen
I thought that the mainstream media wasn't covering this stuff at all, and yet here we have a story from Time magazine.
The last headline Alex doesn't attribute to anybody was from the BBC, and the Irish Times article is covering the same territory that CNN piece was, and CNN was in the list that he had.
It seems to me like the media may in fact not be covering this up, but Alex profits from pretending that they are.
The point up to this point in the show is supposed to have been that the media just uses the word slavery to make white people feel bad.
And in order to do this, they don't report on slavery involving black enslavers.
But whoops!
Alex accidentally just read a list of articles in mainstream outlets doing the thing they're supposed to be covering up.
And you can see the way that he pivots.
Alex completely drops the idea that the media is covering this up.
And now, because there are all these articles, this is proving that Alex isn't making up the existence of slavery in Africa.
He shifted because he...
He accidentally disproved his own point but can't admit it.
So that's fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, what do you do?
What do you do?
How do you get...
So, okay.
So you're on autopilot because there's no way that we can thinkingly get to the place where we are.
Right?
Where you're reading out...
dan friesen
Especially with forethought.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You probably would not end up in that position.
jordan holmes
So imagine...
dan friesen
If he prepared for seven or eight hours as he claims.
jordan holmes
So imagine you're in this situation, right, where you blacked out and all of a sudden you're two examples into the mainstream media never talks about something.
unidentified
BBC, The Guardian, Time Magazine.
What do you say?
jordan holmes
What do you say?
dan friesen
Well, it's like this is proof that I'm right.
But that's the thing.
I mean, there is something almost enviable, if it weren't being used for such awful purposes, there's something enviable of being able to default position everything you're right about.
There's a power there.
It's a debilitating level of self-confidence, almost.
jordan holmes
Well, for the world, it's a debilitating level.
dan friesen
Yes, but for yourself, you can jump any hurdle of nonsense because, in fact, illustrating that I'm wrong is proof that I'm right.
We're just going to shift it over to a different point.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Which is fun.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex has another article that someone has just brought in to him that is maybe, I don't know, I don't think he looked too deeply into this.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
alex jones
Rob Aguero, one of our great producers, brought me an article.
And I'm glad he brought me the ZeroHedge.com article because I was familiar with this and saw this a few days ago.
They're going after this Harvard professor who spoke at UT last week.
And he found that there is no racial bias in police shootings.
And look, you can argue that.
jordan holmes
Through a Herculean effort.
alex jones
You are twice as likely to be shot by police per capita.
There are more white people than black people in America.
It's not you're twice as likely because there's more white people.
You are twice as likely to be shot as a white person per capita, meaning person to person, for every black, every white, because the police go to your house to the call.
They do their job.
They slow roll to the black neighborhoods and don't respond because they're afraid of going to jail if they hurt somebody or shoot somebody.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, that makes sense.
So this is about an economics professor named Roland Fryer who put out a paper saying that there was no racial bias in police shootings.
This was back in 2016, and since then, multiple papers have been published dedicated to illustrating flaws in his methodology.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
This paper has all but been refuted by repeated analyses of the same data that Fryer used, which was police shootings in Houston between 2005 and 2015.
Also, Alex is just absolutely lying about the idea that white people are more likely to be shot by police, even if you...
I mean, that's a just.
A 2021 analysis by the nonprofit Mapping Police Violence found that black people were 13% of the population, yet accounted for 27% of those shot and killed by the police.
That's over double the expected amount by way of population numbers, so for white people to match that, about 140% of all people shot and killed by police would need to be white.
Even if you consider non-fatal shootings, the same is true.
There's no national reporting on the number of such shootings that don't end up...
And fatalities, but the Washington Post did an analysis of 156 police departments in 2022, and one of their findings was, quote, Black residents accounted for 16% of the combined population policed by these departments, but they represented 30% of those fatally shot by police and 41% of those shot and wounded.
Sure, the police shoot way more people than they should, but research has consistently shown that they shoot and kill black Americans at wildly disproportionate rates.
Alex is just lying, because his worldview relies heavily on his white identity, and so the inverse of what is true is presented as true.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, you know, when you train an entire country's police to hate black people, you're gonna get that.
You're just going to get that.
dan friesen
It's an unfortunate outcome.
So Alex has some thoughts about the police killing people, which is fun.
I mean, it's not fun.
It's horrible.
But it's very strange from him, of all people.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
This is a Zero Hedge article.
Ben Weiss of the Free Press sat down with Harvard economics professor.
The University of Texas in Austin last week discussed what it means.
To pursue the truth.
Fryer, a highly respected economist, told Weiss about the intense blowback he was dealt to him after he published a study in 2016 showing there was no racial differences in officer-involved shootings.
But that was before the police defunding and George Floyd.
Now, it's two to one, Weiss getting killed by cops.
And most of the time, they deserve it, folks.
Cops aren't perfect, men.
You know, there's a home dispute, domestic thing, guy runs out with a gun, cops shooting, that's almost, most of it is domestic disturbances.
People are emotional.
Cops will tell you they hate going to domestic disputes.
Those are the most dangerous.
I don't want their job.
Hell, I mean, they keep saying it's all these white cops.
Most of the cities, half the people or more aren't even white.
dan friesen
So, worth noting, Alex has been on the other end of domestic disturbance calls.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Anyway, this is a real change in tone from Mr. Police State.
Now, apparently, just because someone has the police called to their house in a domestic dispute and they happen to have a gun, it's okay for the police to shoot and kill them?
I gotta say, that's pretty embarrassing for a person like Alex to make a point like that.
That's crazy.
jordan holmes
I do think, I think what's very interesting about that, though, is that...
Alex makes a compelling point that if you call the cops on somebody, you are an attempted murderer.
dan friesen
You are creating a scenario where an escalation could get to that point.
jordan holmes
It's almost inevitable.
dan friesen
Maybe not inevitable, but it's definitely far more likely.
jordan holmes
Especially if it's a black person.
If you call the cops on a black person...
dan friesen
Well, not according to Alex's fake stats.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, if you call the cops on a black person, I believe you are an attempted murderer at this point.
dan friesen
So one of the other problems we have here is that Alex is just making up data underlying what he's saying.
Analysis from Mapping Police Violence reported out in The Guardian found that only 6% of police shootings in 2023 were related to domestic disturbances.
A higher amount, 8%, were the result of police being called out for a mental health or welfare check.
The killings were slightly more likely to occur in rural zip codes, with county sheriff's departments making up 32% of them.
And, quote, black people were killed at a rate 2.6 times higher than white people.
Native Americans were killed at a rate 2.2 times greater than white people.
And Latinos were killed at a rate 1.3 times greater.
Also, So, the point, Alex, is, you know, he's full of shit.
That's basically what's going on, and he's inverting reality in order to stoke the white fears of his audience so they feel like they're under attack, because that's heroin for them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean...
I find it so amazing that people can complicate this issue.
dan friesen
Well...
jordan holmes
I mean, it's so hard.
It seems so hard to complicate to me.
If your slogans protect and serve, you can murder zero people.
dan friesen
Well, I think that would be good.
I think that is an admirable aspiration.
I think you do run into some problems where, you know...
There's just going to be mistakes that happen and things like that, even in a perfect world.
jordan holmes
You know, here's the problem.
Here's the problem that I have always had with that, and it goes back to religion.
It goes back to the fucking book, man.
I get into trouble because if you're doing this, right, you're the person who's choosing, and your life should be on the line first.
Like, it's always been the case to me.
That's just the only way that it's ever made sense.
The whole point is being a servant is to put yourself last.
Everyone else lives before you do.
Everyone else eats before you eat.
dan friesen
I don't disagree with you in terms of an ideological or idealistic standpoint.
The real world does not quite operate that way, unfortunately.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
But I do think that it's easy to complicate this issue when you want to.
And that's what Alex is engaged in.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So Rob Agueras is one of the employees at InfoWars.
He's the guy who brought Alex this article about the professor, the Harvard professor.
And so he jumps on Mike here for a second.
rob agueros
The mind control has been set on the masses, has been hurting everybody to attack the white person.
Those stats even show that this whole white man bad, cops are bad, has made the police be less out.
Or likely to shoot a black person or a person of color just because of the backlash they're going to get.
This is not a healthy relationship that we have.
And it's only going to lead to one race being exterminated.
And it's going to be by another race now.
So now it's not going to get any backlash like they were the ones who are doing this.
alex jones
No, I totally agree.
But bottom line, I said this 20 years ago.
The globalists are depopulating.
They're starting it now.
They've gone from testing to operational.
They want to get white people on board with this.
I mean, that's what's going on.
They want to get white people so attacked, so manipulated, so angry they go along with this.
So I'm literally trying to stop this, Rob.
dan friesen
So these dudes are just literally wrong.
Their connection to objective reality is severed and their point is not being based on stats.
They're just talking about their feelings.
The essential thing to understand here is that what these guys attribute to the globalists is actually their own doing and in their heads.
For instance, Rob says that there's this mind control going on against the white man, but examples that you see of this on InfoWars is stuff like pretending there aren't enough white people in Super Bowl commercials.
These purported attacks and manipulations being used by the globalists against white people I think,
alex jones
uh, probably...
dan friesen
I think a lot of these narratives and these worldviews are definitely things that are adopted by the audience, but they are also things that people who are even further than Alex, let's say, who are more explicit and overt about some things, see as a great fertile territory to try and get his audience down to even deeper things.
And I think that Alex, on some level, must understand that and is playing into it.
rob agueros
Me being on the other end of a color spectrum of viewers, we have the same shared experience with that.
No one wants to see anybody die because of the color of their skin, and no one wants to see these unelected bureaucrats making all these decisions who are pushing and pushing these agendas on the younger people.
alex jones
Exactly!
unidentified
I'm sick of them pulling the strings, people!
alex jones
They're the enemy!
They're the enemy!
rob agueros
And they're unelected, and we can't do anything about it other than get up here and rant until we're blue in the face.
dan friesen
This mentality is essentially a gateway to neo-Nazism.
What Alex is expressing is a fundamental view of neo-Nazis.
He's just not saying that the they in his rant is Jewish people.
When Alex incites his audience to such an extent, and he sells them a neo-Nazi worldview with just one little detail difference, he sets them up to be incredibly easy prey when they run into someone who's like, hey, you want to know who they really are?
And when you have this mentality of, like, everything is these shadowy conspiracies and all this, when someone tells you, no, no, no, I've got the truth about what you believe even, this is a conspiracy, you set people up to be in a position where they're, like, more likely to be drawn in by this person.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And so that's kind of what's going on with this little pop-in.
jordan holmes
Ah, man.
Doing great.
I just want to congratulate everyone for such a great job so far.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
I think InfoWars has really done some work they can be proud of.
dan friesen
30 years on air!
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
So we jump off the Alex's sort of racist digression that was a large part of the show, and he realizes he's only got a few minutes left, and he hasn't covered the Cheerios story.
So he gets it to that.
jordan holmes
I swear to God.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
Alright, we're out of time.
The great Owen Troyer takes over in like five minutes, but I wanted to hit this because my phone blew up for three days.
I got so many emails, calls.
Oh my God, you're right.
Cheerios and Quaker Oats sterilizes you and turns boys into girls.
It's all right here, folks.
It's another one of these herbicides.
And they've got herbicides that don't do this.
But they've chosen herbicides that do this on purpose, by design.
80% of Americans test positive for chemical-founded Cheerios, Quaker oats that may cause infertility, delayed puberty study, and bend your gender.
Oh, black people and white people and Hispanics and Asians are all eating Cheerios.
Damn it, I got Cheerios in my cabinet.
And they put a chemical in it that literally, Clarmacquat shrivels your dick.
dan friesen
This is a family show.
So there's no evidence that Clarmacquat shrivels your dick, and it's not something that's being put into Cheerios.
It's not an herbicide, and the study underlying this is dubious, and it comes from a dubious source.
But I want to highlight something, which is that Alex is lying, and he has to know he's lying.
Here is him reading that headline from inside the clip we just played.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
80% of Americans test positive for chemical-founded Cheerios.
Quaker Oats that may cause infertility, delayed puberty study, and bend your gender.
dan friesen
This is from the New York Post, and he just adds the gender bending thing at the end.
That's not in the headline, but because Alex wants to make this a transphobic narrative, he just adds those words in to make it fit more nicely for him.
Nothing in the article's text itself justifies this addition to the headline, so the only reason Alex would do this is because he needs this source to say one thing for his narrative when it actually doesn't.
What I'm saying is that Alex is a conscious, knowing liar.
And that's a firm instance of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, you know, I was thinking about some sort of form.
You know, like, the thing about what we do is such a weird, almost, like, form of journalism, in a sense.
And the more I thought about it, the more I thought that this is kind of the only way to be a media watchdog, is to always be on, if that makes sense.
Do you know what I mean?
If you are any other kind of watchdog source, you can only, like, oh, this is interesting enough that it'll penetrate, or oh, this is important enough that it'll penetrate, or oh, this is something that...
dan friesen
This will get clicks, or there's some market-based incentive of the coverage.
jordan holmes
There's some way that we can use this, right?
The only way that you can catch stuff like that that's so fucking small and yet really is like that gives up the game.
dan friesen
A little bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like the moment that happens it should be like there is an immediate and a vicious response.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because if you can attack that then you can handle so much of the rest of it, right?
But the only way you can do that the only way you could really do that is if you have somebody like you Who's always on.
dan friesen
Well, let's, like, take a step back.
jordan holmes
I'm not trying to make it, like, you personally or, like, Aussie or, like, anything like that.
As a model.
dan friesen
Let's take a step back, though.
Like, I'm not always on.
jordan holmes
No, no, I understand that.
dan friesen
I'm not observing him at every moment.
jordan holmes
I understand that.
dan friesen
There is an attention to the larger picture as opposed to, like, moments that are flashy.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
You understand what I'm...
dan friesen
I do.
I do.
I just wanted to clarify in case people think I'm sitting here, like...
jordan holmes
It's not us being egotistical.
dan friesen
Or, like, I'm plugged into a computer watching him at all.
jordan holmes
I understand.
I understand.
I mean, always on in that kind of sense of like, you can't just slip it by.
dan friesen
Well, and you can't...
I don't even know what it is necessarily, but you can't...
That's not flashy necessarily.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
You can't have something that's guided by looking for a splash.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And if somebody like Media Matters or something had that and they put that in their article, you'd be like, oh, well, that's nothing.
dan friesen
Well, it's kind of boring.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's kind of boring.
But do you know what it is?
That's the whole fucking game.
dan friesen
It is a large part of it.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's the whole thing.
dan friesen
So we have one last clip here, and Alex is saying he'll cover the Cheerios thing later.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
Because he has to end things.
jordan holmes
Oh, for fuck's sake.
dan friesen
On getting back to his feelings about race.
alex jones
So I'm going to cover this big time.
Here's the molecular makeup of Clormaquat.
They spray this on the food.
jordan holmes
It stunts the growth.
alex jones
It ages the oats and other plants that they do it to.
And then it's full of it when you eat it.
Hey, if something stunts a plant's growth, it makes it age faster.
But it makes it create more of what you eat for the plant.
What do you think that does?
They know all this and they're laughing at us.
jordan holmes
I don't know what that does.
That's how crazy shit is.
alex jones
Putting this in our damn Cheerios.
jordan holmes
Stop it!
alex jones
5G hurts everybody.
GMO hurts everybody.
Chloroquot hurts everybody.
Glyphosate hurts everybody.
Devalued currency hurts everybody.
jordan holmes
I don't even know what you're mad at.
alex jones
At the same time, you've got to stand up against all this anti-white crap, and people have got to learn, because if you won't stand up against that, you won't stand up against nothing, and say, leave me alone, you're being manipulated by George Soros and the ADL, and leave me alone, or join me right now to save humanity.
Now listen, we're under a major globalist attack with your support, plus we have incredible products.
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dan friesen
Oof.
That's rough.
So you might notice that Alex is the one who's bringing race into this.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also, you might notice that the people he's saying are running this anti-white stuff happen to be George Soros and the ADL, two lightning rods for anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.
That's definitely not an accident.
That's because these ideas, that there's a shadowy group that's playing white and black people against each other so they'll destroy each other, is an idea that features pretty prominently in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and the tradition that is anti-Semitic conspiracy theory canards.
jordan holmes
It's been said in the past.
dan friesen
But also, Clormaquat doesn't age plants and make them produce more.
Alex just doesn't understand the basics of this story, and it's funny to imagine that he believes that whatever something will do to a plant, it will also do to you.
jordan holmes
I don't even know what to begin.
Yeah, right.
dan friesen
By his logic, since quorum quad is actually used to make sure oats stay standing upright, shouldn't this chemical actually be a good replacement for Viagra?
jordan holmes
What do you want?
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's very, very, very strange.
jordan holmes
That's one of those great things that I love so much, is when people really get into chemistry, I want to make this very clear.
unidentified
I don't know what the fuck is going on with chemistry.
jordan holmes
It is very complicated.
And I think a lot of people, whenever they explain chemistry to me, they have a lot of caveats that are like, well, this happens most of the time.
I don't think anybody really knows what the fuck is going on with chemistry because chemicals are fucked up, man.
dan friesen
I'm convinced that people who study it do know what's going on.
jordan holmes
Yeah, me too.
dan friesen
I agree that I am willing to admit that I don't have a chemistry degree.
And I have no faith in Alex's understanding of any of this as well.
jordan holmes
What I'm also trying to say is, I do not have...
I do not hold my expertise valued at all.
dan friesen
Nah.
jordan holmes
Anything I believe about chemicals, I find to be worthless.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And the same respect should be given to Alex.
jordan holmes
Should be given to Alex, absolutely.
dan friesen
Because he's done no shit.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
I don't know, fuck all.
dan friesen
So this episode sucks.
I mean, it really does.
jordan holmes
It really, really does.
dan friesen
It's one of the more racist demonstrations I've seen Alex carry out in recent memory.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it is...
I think that this episode...
It intended to be a few things, and it didn't succeed.
I think that he wanted to cover Trump's New York case a bit, and he rambled about the devil.
jordan holmes
I would love talking about Cheerios.
dan friesen
He didn't cover that all that much outside of manipulating a headline to make it work for his transphobic purposes.
jordan holmes
Like promoting heart health is good?
dan friesen
That is true.
And then he tried to talk about the U.N. Yeah.
Maybe these derivations are actually what Alex wants to talk about.
And I think that's probably the case.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I get the feeling that civil rights made Alex take down the whites-only sign, but not change the whites-only feeling.
dan friesen
Yeah, well...
Unfortunately, him and his community will all be fighting against civil rights fairly soon.
jordan holmes
For the rest of our hearts.
dan friesen
Well, they already are, but be more open about it.
jordan holmes
Before and after we were born, and before and after we die.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, we'll be back with another episode, but until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do, it's knowledgefight.com!
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Blue Sky.
jordan holmes
We are on Blue Sky, it's Knowledge Fight!
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
Until then, I'm Neo.
I'm DZXClark.
Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
jordan holmes
And now...
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