In this installment, Dan and Jordan "enjoy" their first 2024 episode of The Alex Jones Show. They tune in to find a very dumb "deep dive" about Epstein, and Alex interviewing yet another person who seems to really like Adolph Hitler. Bad start to 2024.
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| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I need money. | ||
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Andy in Kansas. | |
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding me. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your world. | ||
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Knowledge Fight. | |
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
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I love you. | |
| Hey, everybody! | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
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Dan. | |
| Jordan. | ||
| I have a quick question for you today. | ||
| What's your bright spot about? | ||
| Another day, another new set of headphones. | ||
| Another new set of headphones, that's true. | ||
| That's not the bright spot, though. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But in case anything goes wrong, new headphones. | ||
| Headphones, that's what it is. | ||
| It's like people say new shoes. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| We had a scare before the show even started. | ||
| Yeah, we did. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And now I feel like because of that, my cord's on the wrong side. | ||
| Ooh, you're right, it is. | ||
| It should be on the left, but it's on the right. | ||
| It's always on the left. | ||
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Oh, God, that's terrifying. | |
| Very strange that there's no way around it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Can't have to just deal with it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| My bright spot today, Jordan, as I was over at the store. | ||
| And what should I see but Kit Kat... | ||
| Chocolate Frosted... | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| Chocolate Frosted Donut Flavor! | ||
| Get the fuck out of here! | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| But... | ||
| Exciting. | ||
| Exciting as a flavor. | ||
| It's exciting to see Kit Kat getting into the game. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because you usually see Reese's fucking around doing all this crazy nonsense. | ||
| Well, I mean, Japanese Kit Kat has been going strong for a long, long time. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| And we got that nice package from a listener who had some nice Japanese Kit Kat. | ||
| The strawberry one was fantastic. | ||
| The banana caramel was iffy. | ||
| But see, I think domestically, Kit Kat doesn't mess around enough. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| So chocolate frosted donut. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Hey, hello. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| It's the thought that counts. | ||
| I'm telling you, we're trapped in a Cooler Ranch loop. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| So many places accidentally nailed it on their first go-around, and then the taste got trapped in the literal human zeitgeist, and now we're trapped. | ||
| What was the second Kit Kat that was the Cooler Ranch? | ||
| Wait, what was the second Kit Kat that was the Cool Wrench? | ||
| Yeah, because he had the Doritos nacho cheese. | ||
| That's the original, right? | ||
| You gotta ask yourself. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| What does the white chocolate count for? | ||
| Not much. | ||
| You don't think so? | ||
| I think the white chocolate counts for a lot. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I'm a big fan of the white chocolate Reese's, too. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| White chocolate is the best. | ||
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Nope. | |
| It's a little bit sweeter. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| A little bit sweeter, a little less better. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| Sucks. | ||
| Shouldn't be called chocolate. | ||
| I guess the reason this is a bright spot is that me and my buddy Nicky Gifts, it's one of the few things that we really connect on anymore. | ||
| Not that our friendship has fallen apart, but he's busy, he has a kid, so our lives, we don't live in the same city, our lives are disparate. | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| It's a nice way that we can connect, that we take pictures of weird novelty candies that we see and we're like, uh-oh, look at this one. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Yeah, it is kind of a nice little thing that we can still share. | ||
| That's more the bright spot than the actual chocolate. | ||
| Chocolate-frosted donut, which, again, not good. | ||
| Maintaining a human connection, even whenever it's extremely difficult with those, like, small things, that just goes such a long way towards... | ||
| It is a little thing. | ||
| Yeah, but you can think about it, you know? | ||
| Every now and again, you can just stab and be like, yeah, I do appreciate that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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It's nice. | |
| And when I see a funny candy, it makes me think of my old buddy. | ||
| Yeah, that's great. | ||
| So, what's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot is... | ||
| I'm gonna go with one more time. | ||
| This is the last time... | ||
| No, what had happened was. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| Season finale. | ||
| Finished it up. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And I will tell you this. | ||
| The reason is my bright spot. | ||
| One, it's a great episode, but it's my bright spot because it blew up a new level for me that I didn't know. | ||
| I didn't know this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Before Kanye took over B, Common's seminal album, one of the greatest albums of all time, Questlove had finished like six tracks. | ||
| Producing it. | ||
| Oh my. | ||
| So there is an alternate universe B produced entirely by Questlove that is now trapped inside my brain. | ||
| Like, I want to hear those. | ||
| You got to do a Marvel's What If. | ||
| Absolutely! | ||
| Time would be different. | ||
| How do you even know about Marvel's What If? | ||
| I heard about it somewhere. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Probably some fucking video that was recommended to me on YouTube that I didn't click on. | ||
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Oh, that would make sense. | |
| It just shows up in my fucking page. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| Also, I knew of it as a thing before there was a show. | ||
| You know, like the Uatu, the Watcher. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Like the idea of that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like there's a series of comic books itself. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| And I was vaguely aware of that as a child. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| I gotcha. | ||
| But I've disconnected from this nerd stuff. | ||
| Wow, there's nothing more fun than taking beloved characters and putting them into a different situation. | ||
| Like whenever news radio was on the Titanic. | ||
| Great stuff. | ||
| Or in space. | ||
| Or in space. | ||
| Phil Hartman. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Phil Hartman just... | ||
| Phil Hartman dressing... | ||
| Completely normal. | ||
| Phil Hartman as an exclamation is great. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| No context around it. | ||
| No secondary thought. | ||
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None needed. | |
| Just Phil Hartman. | ||
| Handy dick! | ||
| Well, that requires a lot more context. | ||
| Steven Root! | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Mara Tierney. | ||
| Steven Root has the best career of any human being in the entertainment business ever. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he's in Office Space. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's Jimmy James. | ||
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Yep. | |
| He was in The Man in the High Castle. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I'm trying to create the broadest range of character actor roles that he's done. | ||
| I mean, his voiceover career, extensive. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Always pops up as a little character, you know, like Dodgeball and stuff like that. | ||
| Always pops up as a nice little character. | ||
| Always does his job. | ||
| Does it? | ||
| Gets in, gets out, everybody loves him. | ||
| Here's another alternative universe. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| B. Produced by Steven Root. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| Is that a universe you want to live in? | ||
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Steven the Roots. | |
| Let's start this shit now. | ||
| We're writing it. | ||
| We're cooking with gas. | ||
| Get Marvel on the line. | ||
| So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over and I regret that we're doing it. | ||
| Honestly, this sucks. | ||
| This is a bad episode. | ||
| Bad times. | ||
| We're talking about January 3rd, 2024. | ||
| First episode of 2024. | ||
| Wednesday? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Didn't start off the new year on a new note. | ||
| Didn't have any resolutions that would, at the very least, start off with some sort of novelty or anything like that. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Just running it back. | ||
| I mean, there's a certain sense that this has a novel aspect to it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's just the worst kind of novelty. | ||
| Well, there's that. | ||
| So, we'll get down to how this all plays out. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But first, let's say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Ooh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Frank Brewer, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you, Nick. | ||
| Congratulations on your wedding, Oliver and Kelly. | ||
| Dan and Jordan are now your globalists-in-law. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, sometimes when my partner starts the car by phone, uh, by phone, auto-connects to the Bluetooth, so she's greeted by Alex spewing hatred, but I also listen at 1.5 speed, so he sounds even more coked up. | ||
| I love you guys. | ||
| Keep up the great work. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're an outpolicywonk. | ||
| I'm a policywonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Let go. | ||
| Next, I join to express my support for healthy work-life balance, exemplified by taking a little breaky. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're an outpolicywonk. | ||
| I'm a policywonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Let go. | ||
| Next. | ||
| Spotify just informed me that I listened to you guys 19,173 minutes in my first year of Knowledge Fight. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're not a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| I don't know how many that is comparative. | ||
| I know it's a lot. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know how it is comparatively. | ||
| Well, let's see. | ||
| All right, 60 minutes per hour. | ||
| Well, yeah, I was going to go a different route for the math, and then I got confused. | ||
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Okay. | |
| There's 24 hours in a day. | ||
| We're close to 24,000 minutes. | ||
| All right, so... | ||
| And then I lost track of where I would go next. | ||
| 24,000 minutes divided by 60. Yeah. | ||
| So that gives us... | ||
| No, we're at 20. Let's just round it up to 20. 20,000. | ||
| 20,000 divided by 60. Yes. | ||
| This is excruciating for people. | ||
| They are listening to us not use a calculator and solve this problem at instants. | ||
| It's probably six months of your life. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds great. | ||
| We've got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to Alex Ripped Off the Quickening from Art Bell. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Four stars. | ||
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| So, obviously, one of the biggest things that's going around in the news on this day... | ||
| Is the Epstein list. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Presumably being released, or maybe not, because there was one of the Jane Does who was trying to get it postponed, and there was talk that it was going to be postponed until the 22nd, and then it got released. | ||
| Judge. | ||
| So there's a lot of energy around Epstein. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so one might think that that is why this episode is going to be terrible. | ||
| And it is part of it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But it's not the whole thing. | ||
| I'm... | ||
| Here's what I believe is going to happen, and it really bums me out if you're Alex. | ||
| I believe Alex is going to defend people going to Epstein Island. | ||
| No. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| However, you're not super far off in terms of what I feel like Alex is doing is playing deflection slash defense. | ||
| So we'll get to that, but we start off with Alex running down the headlines and touching on the Epstein business. | ||
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Okay. | |
| To be here. | ||
| Okay, let's run down what we're going to be covering and more today, obviously. | ||
| I'm not going to mention everything we're going to be getting to. | ||
| Because you never know, stuff's breaking while we're on the air and we have a bunch of special guests joining us. | ||
| Epstein lists remain sealed until at least January 22nd. | ||
| I said yesterday, I bet they don't release it today. | ||
| I bet they seal it again. | ||
| We're going to talk about why. | ||
| There's a lot of blackmail going on behind the scenes and some big developments there. | ||
| But I had filmmaker and former InfoWars host. | ||
| Jason Bermas on yesterday. | ||
| He was hosting the fourth hour and I hosted part of it with him. | ||
| And just hearing him rattle off, he's really good at collating everything. | ||
| I was like, man, there's a lot of angles. | ||
| I've forgotten to restate about Epstein. | ||
| Because as Bermas points out, I've been covering Epstein for at least a decade. | ||
| And he reminded me of so much information. | ||
| And people obsess on flight logs. | ||
| They obsess on his so-called black book. | ||
| The big enchiladas are Manifest and Manifold and Legion. | ||
| Manifest, Manifold and Legion. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| I mean, that's a nice little trio. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Barnes would be disappointed. | ||
| Yeah, it doesn't have the full... | ||
| It doesn't have the rhyming and the alliteration going. | ||
| Yeah, you're not wrong there. | ||
| But it does have a flair to it. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| Jason Bermas has got to be pissed. | ||
| Uh, for sucking? | ||
| Or for being told he sucks all the time? | ||
| No, because on our last episode, when we were back in 2012, we heard Alex say that Aaron Dykes had made the best report, but maybe he's second. | ||
| He's not that good. | ||
| Or maybe he's second best to Paul. | ||
| It kind of sucks compared to Paul. | ||
| Fucking Burmus should be the guy. | ||
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You think? | |
| He should be Alex's guy. | ||
| He's been there while he went away for quite a while. | ||
| And he and Alex weren't, I don't know if they had a falling out or what, but he wasn't around. | ||
| But he was there in the early days. | ||
| He was the info warrior. | ||
| That was his show. | ||
| He made loose change. | ||
| No, no, you don't understand. | ||
| If you're a narcissist, you love people right up until they love you back. | ||
| And then you're like, fine, now you're in my stable of people I can exploit. | ||
| I'm off to try and love the next person who doesn't love me yet. | ||
| Jason Berman should have been in the conversation for that top spot with Aaron Dykes. | ||
| In the stable, that's all he is. | ||
| He's there. | ||
| He's on the burner. | ||
| Oh, nice. | ||
| Barnes wouldn't be thrilled. | ||
| Are we holding ourselves to the Barnes standard now? | ||
| For rhymes, yes. | ||
| And pun work. | ||
| Not pun work. | ||
| Alex has been covering Epstein forever. | ||
| The FBI went and scooped up stuff out of his Zorro ranch, out of his... | ||
| New York sex dungeon and out of his Caribbean rape island. | ||
| But they did take photos and admit that they have hundreds, if not thousands, dozens and dozens of boxes full of videotapes and full of CDs and full of computer hard drives. | ||
| So when I say hundreds, if not thousands, it's probably thousands of videos. | ||
| I mean, when you've got buckets, boxes just full of hard drives and full of VHS tapes and... | ||
| Full of DVDs. | ||
| It shows that it's going back many, many, many, many, many, many years. | ||
| Because you got the VHS from 20 years ago, 25 years ago, 30 years ago. | ||
| You've got the CDs and DVDs from 20 years ago, 10 years ago. | ||
| And you got all the hard drives. | ||
| Box after box, closet after closet, room after room, and everybody is completely focused, including myself, even though I'm one of the first to ever talk about all this, if not the first, only because I was already hot on the trail because of Ted Gunderson and all those patriots that were exposing these networks. | ||
| That's how I was aware of it, and I knew people in Hollywood and was told some of the things they'd heard were going on, and also I'm a newshound. | ||
| A lot of this has come out in the news. | ||
| He's a newshound. | ||
| He's a newshound. | ||
| So Alex is making a lot of assumptions of what he imagines this evidence might be in the Epstein case. | ||
| And he may be right about some of it, but he also may not. | ||
| I love the generations of technology. | ||
| It was a little bit of a chart of evolution. | ||
| I'm less interested in his assumptions about that stuff and more interested in his absolute lie that he was one of the first, if not the first, to cover Epstein's child exploitation. | ||
| Yeah, that's disgusting. | ||
| You can go through Alex's history and you'll find that this is an absolute fiction. | ||
| Epstein had been indicted in 2007, at which point Trump's future Secretary of Labor, Alexander Acosta, and Alex's buddy, Alan Dershowitz, negotiated him a non-prosecution agreement. | ||
| He was sentenced to 18 months in prison. | ||
| in which he served in a very minimum security facility and was allowed to leave for work release. | ||
| Subsequently, after he got released, there were a number of lawsuits. | ||
| There was a lot of media coverage of this, particularly in places like the Miami Herald. | ||
| If you go through Alex's old episodes, dating back to 2003, he doesn't talk about Jeffrey Epstein at all until pretty late in the game. | ||
| The word Epstein comes up, but that's mostly when he's talking about the Epstein-Barr virus, not Jeffrey. | ||
| The first time Alex ever actually covered Jeffrey Epstein was on January 2, 2015, which was after the news about Virginia Gaffer's lawsuit had broken, after that news. | ||
| Which, again, was in the news. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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So everyone had been talking about Epstein for months up to this point. | |
| Alex was late to this story, but that doesn't look good for him. | ||
| He's the prophet guy. | ||
| He's supposed to be so many steps ahead of the mainstream media, so to have ignored this story for about seven years while the mainstream media covered it seems kind of weird. | ||
| A little weird. | ||
| That's why he lies like this, and he pretends that he was hot on Epstein's trail from the a one-man crusade against him while the world just sat by and enabled him. | ||
| The media sat on their hands. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Another important point is that this is what is important for Alex. | ||
| The Epstein story isn't about understanding abuse of power or getting justice for the victims. | ||
| This story exists in Infowars coverage to use as a cudgel against his enemies, whether or not they were actually associated with Epstein, and as an avenue to inflate his own ego. | ||
| The Epstein story is about how right Alex is all the time and has always been, and that's why you need to take him so seriously in the present. | ||
| It's super easy to illustrate how right you are all the time if you're just willing to lie. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| So, this is bad. | ||
| Obviously, his coverage of Epstein and stories that involve exploitation of children are always really bad. | ||
| But, like I said, that's not the reason that this is launched into really bad episode territory. | ||
| That is because of a guest that he has on. | ||
| That he introduces. | ||
| The guest is going to come on later, but he brings him up here at the beginning. | ||
| And then I have a very interesting guy I've been watching for, I don't know, it's got to be more than a decade and a half on YouTube and places. | ||
| And that's Brother Nathaniel Kappner. | ||
| And I think the guy is very interesting and entertaining. | ||
| He's Jewish. | ||
| He's a Jewish Christian. | ||
| And he's mellowed a bit over the years. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| He actually puts his case out instead of just attacking people. | ||
| And so I thought we would hear from an Orthodox, I guess, or Messianic Jew today. | ||
| He's not too fond of Israel. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| And I'm going to get some folks on, too, who are pro-Israel soon, like the super-informed, awesome folks over that run Rebel Media, Ezra Levant and others. | ||
| I just recently got invited. | ||
| To go over to Israel and see for myself. | ||
| I've also been invited to Egypt. | ||
| I've been invited to Russia. | ||
| But I haven't gone because there's just too much going on here in America. | ||
| But I'm tempted to go. | ||
| Too much going on. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| Not a great sign here that Alex is saying that he's been watching this guy for a decade. | ||
| Because Brother Nathaniel is a raving anti-Semitic lunatic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's a guy who harasses people on the streets, and he runs a website called Real Jew News. | ||
| The homepage of that site says this on the very top in the header. | ||
| Quote, I wish to warn how Jewry is destroying Christianity throughout the world. | ||
| We can stop already. | ||
| Anytime soon. | ||
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What the f***? | |
| Fuck, are you using the word jewelry? | ||
| He uses it a lot. | ||
| You don't even need to finish a sentence unless it begins with, racists use the word jewelry a lot and non-racists don't. | ||
| Eh, it's a trend. | ||
| Demonizing Jewish people is like literally his main issue. | ||
| He's not someone who opposes Israel or sports Palestinian rights. | ||
| He's a violent anti-Semite who put out a video about how exciting it is that people are starting to like Hitler the day before Alex had him on for this episode. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Literally everything on his website is about attacking Jewish people. | ||
| The Jews did 9-11. | ||
| The Jews killed President McKinley. | ||
| Jews rule every aspect of society and stopped Ron Paul from getting into office. | ||
| What did Jews have against McKinley? | ||
| I didn't read that article. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But, yeah, what a shock. | ||
| This guy likes Ron Paul. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| So all this is pretty predictable neo-Nazi type stuff on this website, but there's one section of the site that I found particularly interesting. | ||
| As it turns out, in 2009, Brother Nathaniel was putting out some articles that were accusing Alex of being a shill. | ||
| From one of them, titled, quote, Is Alex Jones a Zionist shill? | ||
| Here, I'll read to you from that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Quote, the simmering controversy of Alex Bullhorn Jones being a Zionist chill and de facto Zionist agent and spinmeister has now spilled over onto Jones' own public Prison Planet message board. | ||
| Parentheses, see below. | ||
| Alright, I'll give him a... | ||
| I'll say my grade is overwrought. | ||
| At this point in time. | ||
| His writing is not concise. | ||
| Despite alleged message censoring efforts by Jones personally and his staff. | ||
| According to a number of postings which are excerpted below, Jones's allegiance to Zionism stems from two things: one, his core Protestant fundamentalist Zionist belief system, and two, widely circulated reports that his wife is a Jew, which would make their two children Jewish under Talmudic law. | ||
| Nathaniel has been pretty directly critical of Alex for years, like in 2017 when he said, Many fear using the Jew word, but instead use generic phrases like Alex Jones uses globalists. | ||
| So if I'm to take Alex seriously, he spent a decade watching this guy spout vile anti-Semitic trash and regularly insult Alex and say he was a shill for the Jews so afraid that he needed to use code words like globalists in order to stay on the air, and now he's decided to have him on to have a talk about Israel. | ||
| That makes a lot of sense. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| This is what someone does. | ||
| Eh, you know, it's all part of the show. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| It's a disgrace. | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| The last ten years have caused that same kind of political realignment that I think people believe happened in the 60s the same way. | ||
| It hasn't caused it in political party, though. | ||
| Everyone's still pretending to be exactly the same, while some of them believe in complete opposite things somehow. | ||
| Wild! | ||
| Wild! | ||
| Speaking of people in a political party... | ||
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Sure. | |
| Alex has another guest on this episode who should be thrilled that he's sharing a broadcast day with someone like Brother Nathaniel. | ||
| Dan Crenshaw? | ||
| No, it's someone who's been known to pee on live mics. | ||
| Ooh, here we go. | ||
| His name rhymes with cake. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So we have the deep dive next hour. | ||
| It's a red herring, the little black book. | ||
| It doesn't exist. | ||
| He had dozens of these black books. | ||
| What we want is the hard drives. | ||
| And going all the way back to VHS over three decades. | ||
| He was working for Mossad, MI6, and CIA. | ||
| Mossad heads were caught there. | ||
| All of it. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Joining us now is Vivek Ramaswani. | ||
| Super smart. | ||
| Love his analysis. | ||
| He's doing irrevocable damage. | ||
| To the globalists that have hijacked this country? | ||
| That seems to be Alex's catchphrase. | ||
| He's doing irrevocable damage. | ||
| And that's the way of getting around the, like, you know, he has Soros connections and shit earlier in his life. | ||
| So he's got to be real. | ||
| He's doing irrevocable damage. | ||
| Which I don't know how he is. | ||
| He was trying to make change from the inside. | ||
| That's a better angle. | ||
| But as he left, when he realized that he couldn't, he dropped a truth grenade and then jumped out the window. | ||
| An explosion went off behind him. | ||
| It's very cool. | ||
| And he had a truth parachute. | ||
| Well, I mean, obviously. | ||
| You're not going to jump out the 70th floor of a lie building. | ||
| Vivek! | ||
| Definitely makes his... | ||
| Run for office seems super real and credible to be repeatedly coming back on Infowars. | ||
| Can't we all as a society just decide, you know, like, violence is wrong, but also we need to bring back throwing vegetables at people? | ||
| You know, I think that there is a realm of violence that, you know, I never really was too offended by people. | ||
| Pouring milkshakes on folks. | ||
| Milkshakes? | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| Is a tomato in the same territory? | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| If I were doing stand-up and someone threw a tomato, I would not feel attacked. | ||
| No, I would feel... | ||
| Yeah, there is a certain part of me that would be like, Sir, correct answer. | ||
| That's within a well-laid-out tradition of not appreciating someone's performance. | ||
| Yeah, I'd be like, I didn't even know we still did that. | ||
| Applause to you! | ||
| So, you know, Vivek is on, and it's largely a conversation about how, like, you know, him being in the race is important because then there's two people, so they can't just kill Trump because Vivek will be there. | ||
| That kind of stuff. | ||
| You got an understudy. | ||
| So that keeps the prima donna from being hurt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like how you have a buffer. | ||
| If your vice president is insane, then they won't take you out, but they aren't in office and he's not his vice president. | ||
| So it's kind of that same mentality. | ||
| That's like continuity of running for government. | ||
| Yeah, continuity of lunatics. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So also, Vivek is a little bit bummed that people aren't thrilled with his most recent endorsement. | ||
| No! | ||
| Alright, my friend, we love it when you pop in. | ||
| You're very gracious. | ||
| It's good to have you back with us, 2024. | ||
| Where would you like to begin? | ||
| I mean, I actually just came straight off of getting Steve King's endorsement and getting excoriated by the media for it, and it just shows how corrupt a lot of the media is, and frankly, a lot of the Republican establishment, too. | ||
| You know Steve King, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, he's a true patriot. | ||
| Cool guy. | ||
| Cool guy, Steve King. | ||
| Not a racist. | ||
| Div Bank! | ||
| Going to bat for Steve King! | ||
| And being like, that guy likes me. | ||
| I genuinely thought that we were done with Steve. | ||
| I thought that once actual, like, even the racists were like, Steve, come on, man, just don't say it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, what you gonna do? | ||
| Just gonna do this and complain to Alex about how no one is thrilled. | ||
| No one likes Steve King anymore. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, yeah, Vivek is bummed. | ||
| No one's happy for him. | ||
| And then he has another thought about the primary, and that is what the globalists are trying to do. | ||
| Like, a lot of people are saying that, you know, they don't want Biden, right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| They're going to bring in Gavin Newsom or something like that. | ||
| Well, I don't know if anybody's really... | ||
| Well, that's what the right-wing conspiracy ding-dongs are saying. | ||
| I would rather bring back Hillary. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| Really piss him off. | ||
| Vivek has another angle on this. | ||
| Okay, all right. | ||
| I worry that a lot of the Republican primary voter base, because the mainstream media is pushing a false narrative, is about to fall into a major trap. | ||
| And it's one that you've been calling out for a long time. | ||
| I think you have been way ahead of the curve on this. | ||
| I came around to this in the last couple of months as it became more obvious to me. | ||
| I think this system, I hate to say this, because it's wrong and it's immoral, but this system is not going to allow. | ||
| Donald Trump to get anywhere near that White House. | ||
| If you think they're going to just let Donald Trump get back to the White House again, open your eyes. | ||
| And I think that if I've seen what's happening in the last couple of months, the twist in this that I think really threw a wrench in this for me was I knew they were not going to allow a Trump versus Biden election. | ||
| There was something else going on here. | ||
| Gavin Newsom or Michelle Obama, which puppet were they going to prop up? | ||
| But then you actually follow the facts. | ||
| You open your eyes for the last several months. | ||
| Who are the people? | ||
| That are supporting the lawsuits to keep Donald Trump off the ballot. | ||
| Who are they supporting? | ||
| Who's Larry Fink supporting? | ||
| It's not Gavin Newsom. | ||
| It's not even Joe Biden. | ||
| It's actually within our own party. | ||
| It's Nikki Haley in this race. | ||
| And so what they want to do is to narrow this down to be a two-horse race between Trump and Haley. | ||
| That's the plan, at least. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Bird brain. | ||
| Bird brain. | ||
| You've been targeting her astutely from the beginning. | ||
| She's very dangerous. | ||
| Yeah, so that's the plot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the plot to bring it down to Nikki Haley versus Trump in the primary. | ||
| Trump would destroy. | ||
| I mean, right now, Trump would destroy literally everyone. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| It doesn't matter if you prop up Nikki Haley as a second option in the GOP primary. | ||
| If it is only her, still... | ||
| If Trump isn't running, I still don't think she's going to win the nomination. | ||
| No, I find it fascinating because anything anybody told me about voting for Biden last election because of blah, blah, blah, blah, all of that stuff applies more to Nikki Haley this year than it does to Biden or Trump. | ||
| It's literally like... | ||
| Can you lay out a little bit of the buh-buh-buh-buh? | ||
| I mean, that whole electability, who is going to win an election, in a world without Trump, Nikki Haley wins against anybody. | ||
| Well, if the right-wing voter base was looking for electability and someone who's not outwardly, clearly nuts... | ||
| Right, but that's... | ||
| But they're not. | ||
| Right, but see, that's my point. | ||
| Is that all of those people who told me all that nonsense about Biden should stop Pretending and should vote for Nikki Haley and make her the Republican nominee. | ||
| If they could switch their primary allegiance. | ||
| Yeah, they can do that. | ||
| They never really believed in anything anyway. | ||
| So this might be where we get that party swap that you want. | ||
| I mean, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| It makes more sense than relying on Republicans to do anything close to the right thing. | ||
| And you don't actually believe in anything. | ||
| So you're saying that, like, center Democrats could... | ||
| Essentially take over the Republican primaries by shifting parties. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Vote for Nikki Haley. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That would be chaos. | ||
| It would make more sense than whatever it is they've chosen to do for the past, my entire life. | ||
| I do see the sense in it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I still think that they would be probably betraying a fair amount of things that are politically supposed to be what they... | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| I didn't mean to over-exaggerate that maniacal laughter. | ||
| To quote Jordan, fake laugh. | ||
| So Alex is going to do this deep dive on the Epstein situation. | ||
| Jason Burmess is going to come back in. | ||
| They're going to take care of it. | ||
| They're going to get really into the weeds. | ||
| They're not. | ||
| They're going to be real fuckheads. | ||
| But yeah, first there's other business. | ||
| It's crazy because I've been covering the pedophile rings, the Mossad CIA, MI6 operations and King Charles and Jimmy Savelle for 29 years on air. | ||
| Don't you dare say anything about Jimmy Savelle. | ||
| Ted Gunderson and General Parton and all these experts, former FBI agents, former top generals that explained to me how they were controlling people. | ||
| And so I have forgotten more than most people ever know about this. | ||
| But Jason's done a really good job at getting it all together with the documents. | ||
| That's coming up. | ||
| In about five minutes when we come back from this one little short 60-second break. | ||
| But right now, I want everybody to listen to me very, very carefully because just like our information is game-changing, this is incredibly game-changing information. | ||
| So, get ready. | ||
| I'm also going to cut an ad right now that will run on the show live here. | ||
| This is an ad I'm about to cut live on air with everybody watching. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, Two years ago, I went to two separate high-end health clinics where I get my blood tested every few years and also get EKGs and things in my heart. | ||
| And I noticed that at both the facilities, the hottest thing with top medical doctors was methylfolate. | ||
| Yeah, so you're selling methylfolate now. | ||
| What's methylfolate? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Some sort of supplement? | ||
| Eh, that's fair. | ||
| From the cursory research that I did, I think this is not a great thing that Alex should be selling. | ||
| It can mess with your serotonin and dopamine levels. | ||
| Great! | ||
| Suicidal thoughts! | ||
| It would be a fucking side effect if it was a regulated industry. | ||
| Alex explains that... | ||
| Like, Northern Europeans tend to have some sort of broken chromosome that affects your energy levels, and this makes you back to having full energy. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| I would say... | ||
| There's a racial component, ethnic component even, to his ad pitch about broken chromosomes and stuff. | ||
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I do think that that is probably a better... | |
| Evidence of true racism from your show that you're like, fuck it. | ||
| Only white people will really need this. | ||
| The broken chromosomes. | ||
| I know who my audience is. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So Alex brings in Jason Burmus for this deep dive. | ||
| And Jason goes a little bit off track right from the jump. | ||
| So Jason, you're going to be, you got your own computer system. | ||
| You're going to be putting documents on. | ||
| We'll be putting them up as well. | ||
| Start with what you were seeing yesterday in the fourth hour. | ||
| I put it on X. It's got about a million and a half views. | ||
| Just on our channel, a couple million more other places. | ||
| It's exploded. | ||
| A lot of folks are tuning in right now. | ||
| So give people the real deep dive until we go to break in 19 minutes. | ||
| And then I'm going to come back and get into the areas I want and give us the million foot view of the whole nasty thing and tie it all together. | ||
| And explain that this is how they control things. | ||
| The currency is children. | ||
| And now with the biomedical tyranny and the UN treaty, they don't just want our children. | ||
| They want all of our bodies. | ||
| It's about rape. | ||
| It's about owning us. | ||
| It's about that power. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Jason Bermas. | ||
| Alex, you know, I was going to begin with the Epstein saga all the way back to what we now know is at least publicly the first report. | ||
| To the NYPD and the FBI all the way back in 1996. | ||
| But you said something key. | ||
| You talked about the quote-unquote finders group. | ||
| And this was a group... | ||
| Okay, so we're going to veer off into finders stuff. | ||
| So that's good. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So yeah, this deep dive is... | ||
| We're going to get all into the... | ||
| It does not really... | ||
| You know what it is? | ||
| It's just a barrage of touchstone talking points. | ||
| Jason going off on weird conspiracy tangents about a subject that I resent them not taking more seriously. | ||
| I think it's fucking... | ||
| It's no good. | ||
| So Jason talks about the Finders, because that's where he's starting things off. | ||
| Great. | ||
| And he's not really on the right track. | ||
| The quote-unquote Finders group, and this was a group that had not only connections... | ||
| To the Central Intelligence Agency in the 80s. | ||
| But the initial incident, which if anybody looks at the local police reports that you can find on the FBI's own website, handwritten, by the way, is so disturbing and egregious, you have to wonder. | ||
| What was going on, these children who were extremely dirty were playing in a park, and the adults that with them didn't seem to be their parents. | ||
| When law enforcement investigated, these people were connected to the Internet before the Internet existed, through their van, through wireless technology. | ||
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So they had all of this high-tech gear. | |
| The kids were clearly abused, and I'm not going to even get into how grotesquely, once they had medical examinations, but we're talking about young children being anally abused. | ||
| I'm going to leave it at that. | ||
| Leave it at that. | ||
| That's more than far enough. | ||
| But it led into what was essentially an underage blackmail ring inside of D.C. And we actually put a... | ||
| And what was so scary and egregious in that case is you had somebody who was sitting in Congress, Barney Frank. | ||
| He was not out as a homosexual at the time, but he had hired basically this young madam, this male madam, and this guy was running a brothel not only out of Barney Frank's Which they had ethics hearings on. | ||
| Anybody can watch those on C-SPAN. | ||
| But it actually went to the local Chevy Chase Middle School and involved the vice principal. | ||
| This was all the way back in the 80s. | ||
| Now, fast forward to, again, that first report on Epstein in 1996. | ||
| And let me just stop you. | ||
| I'm going to give you the floor in a moment. | ||
| But since you got into finders. | ||
| They even raided this big warehouse that had all these satellite uplinks, all this high-tech equipment. | ||
| Where they were shooting child porn, this all came out, and again, the FBI confiscated it. | ||
| And I'll leave it at that, I guess. | ||
| It was CIA, just like it did with Epstein. | ||
| This all didn't come out. | ||
| So there is a distinct possibility that those children that were found in the van, the finders, that 1987 arrest, there's a possibility that they were victims of abuse, as is often the case with cults. | ||
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| But also, the media botched that story considerably. | ||
| The people who did the investigation found that they couldn't rule out abuse, but not that they could indicate that there was abuse. | ||
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Right. | |
| And so the media screwed that up, and that's what Bermas is reporting on. | ||
| It's a far more sensational story. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Everything else that Burmes is saying here is unsubstantiated conspiracy nonsense that has no basis in reality. | ||
| The CIA connection that Burmes is hanging all that on is that the CIA sent some employees to a company called Future Enterprises Incorporated, which taught computer skills in the 80s. | ||
| At some point, a member of the finders named Robert Gardner was employed by Future Enterprises. | ||
| Also, the leader of the group, Marion Petty, his wife was employed by the CIA in the 50s, but it died in 1984, and there's no connection that's ever been established through her with the group. | ||
| to the CIA. | ||
| Right. | ||
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At the time of this 1987 arrest, the story got whipped up into the prevailing satanic panic, and everything about the case got sensationalized with fantastical details, like what Burmese is regurgitating. | |
| Right. | ||
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And then in 2019, the FBI released over 300 pages of documents about the case, and none of this stuff is in any way backed up by them. | |
| So what do the truth seekers at the Infowar, what do they do? | ||
| They hold tight to the satanic panic gossip conspiracy shit while pretending that what they're actually doing is basing their coverage on the legitimate sources like the FBI release. | ||
| It's a parlor trick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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That's what they do. | |
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Barney Frank associated with a murder. | |
| a male sex worker named Steve Gobi, who was alleged to have been running a sex work operation out of Frank's home. | ||
| There's no indication that there's anything further illegal about it, like involving trafficking of kids or blackmail operations, as Burmess is clearly trying to insinuate. | ||
| Sure, but running a... | ||
| Brothel is illegal. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, hey, sure. | ||
| There's nothing we can do about that. | ||
| I'm not going to pretend that's not. | ||
| I don't think it should be. | ||
| Morally, I'm against that. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| And I would say that I think that it is ambitious, that's not the right word, extreme for someone to be running a sex work operation out of the home of somebody who's sitting in Congress. | ||
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Yes. | |
| I feel like that's overly complicating things in a way that maybe is inappropriate. | ||
| I wouldn't have... | ||
| Picked that as my first spot. | ||
| But turning this into a part of this conspiracy is... | ||
| Different. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he brings up the Chevy Chase Middle School, and it was actually an elementary school. | ||
| So this has to do with the principal of Chevy Chase Elementary School, Gabrielle Massaro, resigning after it was revealed that he had been involved with Steve Gobi and allowed him to use the school after hours to conduct business for his escorting and sex work operation. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| I'm all for sex work. | ||
| No, can't do that. | ||
| Sorry, buddy. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Big no. | ||
| You can't be using the guidance office after hours to make phone calls. | ||
| Sorry, that's just not going to go. | ||
| It's really inappropriate and obviously not okay, but Burmas is trying to imply that this had to do with something to do with crimes against or involving the students at that school, and that is not the case at all. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| But if you're doing it out of a school and people claim that you are, that one's on you. | ||
| That one's on you, not them. | ||
| It is understandable for people to be like, what the hell? | ||
| But it is not understandable for someone in Jason Bermas' position to play this fast and loose with details in order to paint the picture that he wants to paint. | ||
| Alex and Bermas are doing what they do with every topic. | ||
| They're blurring details and exaggerating things out so they can exploit optics for their own narrative purposes. | ||
| It's an absolute disgrace to do this about a subject like this, but what can you really expect? | ||
| Crimes against children evoke a very visceral response from people, and once you've created that response, it's really easy to hijack it and use it for your purposes. | ||
| This is just a game to them. | ||
| It's just a game. | ||
| Yeah, it is one of those things that it should give us all pause. | ||
| How effective the satanic panic is, despite the fact that we all know about the satanic panic. | ||
| Still, the people who are engaging in satanic panic behavior right now could also be like, yeah, man, I lived through that satanic panic. | ||
| Those parents were crazy. | ||
| Well, they could. | ||
| Or you could be like Alex and be like, it was all correct and real and it never stopped. | ||
| And they covered it up. | ||
| So I notice one thing in their coverage of this, and that is constantly saying that the list that may or may not be... | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| Remember, all the new viewers, you're hearing nothing about all the DVDs, about the hard drives, about the VHS tapes, closet after closet grabbed by the FBI. | ||
| You're hearing nothing about that. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Again, the list is a total distraction. | ||
| What is on the damn videotapes? | ||
| Keep going. | ||
| That doesn't seem like a normal angle for Alex to have, and the only conclusion I can come to is he was very worried about whose names might be on there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This really seems like we're going to do this to create a distraction from an inconvenient realization that Trump was more associated with Epstein than I have insisted for years. | ||
| Yeah, I would say this. | ||
| For all of the claims of people being pedophiles now, all of the random, super fast stuff. | ||
| Alex is going to say in a minute, it's half of the Democratic Party. | ||
| Totally, totally. | ||
| I think all of that is effective and is the result of Clinton and Prince Andrew not being in jail for the rest of their lives. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| If anybody could say, because the most famous... | ||
| Two people in the world in the 90s are put in prison for the rest of their lives, right? | ||
| Then all of this stuff of, oh, I'll have the Democratic Party. | ||
| When there are not responsibility and there's not accountability or consequences meted out, then it creates fertile territory to make up whatever you want. | ||
| And that is not healthy. | ||
| And it's where Alex makes a lot of his money. | ||
| So Jason Burmus... | ||
| I found his sourcing on some information to be a little troubling. | ||
| This is a good indication of that. | ||
| And, you know, getting into some of the stuff that isn't talked about a lot. | ||
| You know, yesterday, Alex, we talked briefly about Zorro Ranch. | ||
| Now, I've seen over some articles over there where people can see that this was a place where Epstein wanted to facilitate a baby-making ranch. | ||
| And this place, unlike New York, Allegedly has never been investigated rated. | ||
| In fact, it was sold earlier this year. | ||
| And, you know, I'm going to be careful when I say this, but Courtney Love was one of the people inside that black book. | ||
| I ended up getting in touch with Courtney Love's father. | ||
| They had obviously had a falling out by then. | ||
| He had actually made accusations that she was responsible for Kurt Cobain's murder. | ||
| I'm not going to go here nor there. | ||
| But he essentially told me, he never came on air, but I have the logs and I've done videos on it, that a lot of girls didn't make it out of the system. | ||
| And when they were used up, they were either taken out to that desert and basically executed or taken out onto the water and thrown overboard. | ||
| And he says he knows this because his daughter told him this. | ||
| And again, I'm not saying that's factual. | ||
| I'm just putting it out there. | ||
| Just putting it out there. | ||
| This hearsay that I apparently talked to Courtney Love's dad about. | ||
| I have secondhand, at best, information, if this conversation happened, from notorious, accurate storyteller Courtney Love. | ||
| Through a source that actively hates her. | ||
| I'm not saying that you have to not believe everything Courtney Love says, but her dad is an unknown entity. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In a lot of ways. | ||
| Not a fan of Courtney Love. | ||
| This is not what someone who's serious would do. | ||
| I would not. | ||
| Report on that as being information worth going on. | ||
| No, but you really want to get into this stuff that you don't want to get into. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I mean, we'll just leave it at that. | ||
| He really does seem to have a knack for bringing up stuff that he insists he's not bringing up. | ||
| Courtney Love's dad says that she killed Kurt Cobain. | ||
| Now, I'm not going to touch that. | ||
| This thing that I just brought up. | ||
| We definitely don't want to exploit any kind of... | ||
| I mean, now, admittedly, in the past three sentences, we've brought up 18... | ||
| Horrifying, exploitable, sensationalized crimes. | ||
| And then said, no, we're not going to talk about those. | ||
| No, I'm just going to put that out there. | ||
| Yeah, I just want you to have that in the back of your mind while you hear the rest of my lies. | ||
| So in the middle of this deep dive, Alex discusses that he's kind of getting some special treatment from Elon Musk. | ||
| Yeah, yeah he is. | ||
| But it's a problem. | ||
| I'm sure it is. | ||
| As you see, there's a lot of people who are seeing his content. | ||
| But no one's buying shit. | ||
| Say what you want about us. | ||
| That's throwing on the gauntlet. | ||
| The New World World are putting us back on there. | ||
| And there's no controls. | ||
| Nobody's blocking us. | ||
| About two weeks ago, about a week into being unbanned, we saw them put a shadow ban on. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| And I made some phone calls. | ||
| And in two hours, it was gone. | ||
| They have third-party sites that monitor that. | ||
| And we went and checked it out. | ||
| Shadow ban's been reinstated. | ||
| And boom, I made some calls. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Through the call spy that works for Musk, boom. | ||
| I mean, fixed. | ||
| And we're reaching tens of millions a day. | ||
| Absolutely crazy. | ||
| But it's not translating into new listeners from X getting any of the products in four stores. | ||
| So we can be shut down and we don't get support. | ||
| I've been in major legal battles with the deep state. | ||
| CIA, the Justice Department heavily involved, quarterbacking it. | ||
| We're still on air, like I told you. | ||
| We'll stay on air if you support the broadcast. | ||
| But we've been... | ||
| In the red, barely in the black. | ||
| I want to expand during the election cycle. | ||
| I need the funds. | ||
| So please, go to Infowarsstore.com. | ||
| There's only five or six days left of store-wide free shipping, double Patriot points. | ||
| It's the New Year's special. | ||
| We'll put it up on screen. | ||
| I think it's five or six days. | ||
| Just go to the front page of Infowarsstore.com. | ||
| You can see the message there, or the banners are on Infowars.com. | ||
| So it's six days left, and we have this new product in. | ||
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| Problems with mitochondria because your genes are broken. | ||
| I had my genetics tested. | ||
| That's how I learned about this. | ||
| And when I told industry people I wanted to put on methylfolate, they go, you don't know about that? | ||
| That's what all the athletes, everybody had been taking for at least five years. | ||
| This stuff, I can barely take it. | ||
| I certainly don't need coffee once I've taken it or TurboForce or any of that. | ||
| And they're all a great product. | ||
| TurboForce, 10-hour clean energy. | ||
| It's amazing as well. | ||
| You take it on top of this. | ||
| Next level. | ||
| Next level! | ||
| I thought we were in the middle of the deep dive, but there's an oasis in this deep dive, and that is talking about your weird mitochondria product. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You know, it's weird how many chemicals you can isolate and how many you can just kind of fabricate. | ||
| That's kind of crazy how many chemicals. | ||
| There's a lot of them. | ||
| There's so many. | ||
| And they can always be exciting. | ||
| What? | ||
| You know, that's the thing that I really wish we had, like, you know, all those futurist predictions from 1940. | ||
| What will the world look like in 2024? | ||
| All of that stuff. | ||
| All of those. | ||
| I wish there was one cynical asshole who was just like... | ||
| They are going to unregulate a fucking shit ton of stuff, and you're going to cram it in your body all the time. | ||
| All those things you heard about, oh, you're going to eat pills? | ||
| No, you're not going to eat pills. | ||
| You're going to eat food and then kill yourself with pills for some reason. | ||
| And Alex is going to excite the shit out of you whenever he has something new in. | ||
| It's going to be the thing. | ||
| Take not Coke to feel like maybe you took Coke. | ||
| Well, or Coke. | ||
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Or Coke. | |
| So we get back to the deep dive. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I'm kidding. | ||
| The new product you want is foundational energy from Dr. Jones Naturals, exclusively available at InfoWorksStore.com. | ||
| There's a lot of Dr. Jones Naturals, my dad. | ||
| It's a company that aren't available at InfluorShore.com, like the original, not available for years, now back, limited run, super silver, non-fluoride toothpaste, with the nano-silver, with the iodine, with the peppermint oil, with the tea tree oil. | ||
| This throws the kitchen sink at it. | ||
| So good for your gums, your teeth. | ||
| Our most popular thing ever, back at drjonesnaturals.com. | ||
| That's drjonesnaturals.com. | ||
| One word, just D-R-D-R. | ||
| DrJonesNaturals.com. | ||
| Just DrJonesNaturals.com. | ||
| There it is on screen. | ||
| So many other great products there that aren't available anywhere else. | ||
| All the great silver products that you love so much. | ||
| The wound gel, all of it. | ||
| The immune gargle. | ||
| It's all there at DrJonesNaturals. | ||
| Wait, what was the website? | ||
| So you might notice something. | ||
| Alex's products that he got a cease and desist about. | ||
| And he got in trouble for selling as a preventative or cure for COVID. | ||
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Those are all sold on Dr. Jones Naturals now. | |
| That's weird. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Suspicious. | ||
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I wonder, is it? | |
| It is. | ||
| Like, because even though they're related, it doesn't matter. | ||
| Dr. Jones isn't being sued. | ||
| So if Alex wanted to, he could move his entire suite of products over to drjonesnaturals.com, have drjonesnaturals.com pay an exorbitant advertising fee in order to do all that stuff on InfoWars. | ||
| That's exactly what they did with PQPR. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| But this is after a bankruptcy settlement, if it's approved and all that. | ||
| If it's after that... | ||
| Then they can just do it again. | ||
| I imagine there would be some sort of a difficulty with that. | ||
| You imagine? | ||
| I do imagine. | ||
| Unfortunately, I am imagining the opposite. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, I understand what you're saying, and don't get it twisted. | ||
| I think that's part of what is going on in Europe. | ||
| I mean, that's literally what's going on right here. | ||
| But I also think, on another level, it's because Alex got in trouble for selling these products, and I don't think... | ||
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Sure. | |
| I think that... | ||
| Maybe it's a shielding thing where you have those products over there. | ||
| They're not being sold by me. | ||
| I sell Dr. Jones Naturals methylfolate product over here. | ||
| He only sells those on his site, all the silver. | ||
| It's still the same company. | ||
| It's still all the same. | ||
| The money's all going to Infowars. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| I mean, ultimately, their biggest problem is how lazy they are with accounting. | ||
| Man. | ||
| So we get back to the deep dive, and this time I'm not kidding. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And it all is just this barrage of non-sequiturs, and Alex's contribution to it is all just the same shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you look at this, this is really their control system. | ||
| I want your view and your take, and your expert view. | ||
| I mean, we produced films decades ago on this, you and I. On how big this network is and how do we defeat them? | ||
| Because it's hiding in plain view that MI6, MI5, CIA, Mossad, Interpol's huge unit. | ||
| There's been massive child kidnapping, rape rings that came out of the Netherlands and France, and Rothschild castles will kidnap women and children found in the London Guardian reports 25 years ago. | ||
| I mean, there's so much UN worldwide sex slavery rings in Europe and in Haiti and thousands of kids kidnapped and shipped out of Hillary. | ||
| I mean, this is coming out. | ||
| Then the transgenderism and sexually targeting children to confuse them and move them to be sterilized. | ||
| I mean, it's about targeting our children. | ||
| So give us your summation, then we'll get into more details, of why they're doing this, what they're going to do next, how much danger the globalists are in, and how do we get attention on the Justice Department, not just suppressing Wiener's laptop, which you know is full of this, and tied to Hillary and Uma Abedin and, you know, Chuckie Schumer. | ||
| But it's just, it's everywhere. | ||
| This is how they operate. | ||
| I mean, I would say, what, half the Democrats are pedophiles, guesstimation. | ||
| Maybe 15% of the Republicans. | ||
| You know, look at Dennis Hastert. | ||
| You can't shake a stick in the dark and not hit one of these things. | ||
| 50 versus 15? | ||
| I mean, I don't even... | ||
| Alex just makes up numbers. | ||
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I mean, what? | |
| Right. | ||
| Yes, I understand, but it's not the numbers that Alex makes up. | ||
| It's the comparison point and what it means inside Alex's brain that is so crazy. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Because it really doesn't mean Alex believes these people do anything. | ||
| It means, I believe... | ||
| Democrats are more evil than Republicans. | ||
| And I'm using all of this stuff. | ||
| I'm exploiting all of this language that you care about. | ||
| To hurt people. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. | ||
| You build up this visceral response and then you exploit it. | ||
| That's the exploitation point. | ||
| All the mortars! | ||
| And then it's all transgender people's fault. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's the point where the exploitation of the extreme response and emotional reaction that you have to these sorts of topics transitions into being targeted at somebody. | ||
| It's targeted at Democratic politicians and LGBTQ folk. | ||
| Well, it is like, I emotionally disarm you, and then once you've got no defenses, I go, and it's all transgender people's fault. | ||
| The end. | ||
| Or at very least, like, Alex isn't... | ||
| Actually interested in justice being served. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| He's not interested in the victims of Epstein and his associates. | ||
| He's not interested in a thorough accounting of the people who were actually involved. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's interested in exploiting this in order to add fuel to the, you know, first of all, anti-LGBTQ narratives that he talks about and the Democrats. | ||
| And part of the reason that the Democrats are so evil is they support LGBTQ folk. | ||
| If every name associated was dealt with appropriately, every single one of them, Alex would still claim that this is all a conspiracy against just Trump. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the bottom line, like I said, most of this big presentation, this seems to be the bottom line. | ||
| So it's lies within lies. | ||
| We obsess over the client list. | ||
| We obsess over the flight logs. | ||
| Important. | ||
| Gives us ideas there. | ||
| But that's like knowing somebody is a suspect in a murder, and a witness says, I saw John Doe shoot the woman in the back of the head in his yard and put her in the back of his car. | ||
| The police go there, open the back of the trunk, the woman's in the car. | ||
| And then they go and grab him inside, and under her fingernails is his skin where she scratched him. | ||
| That's open and shut, murder won. | ||
| You're going to the electric chair, going to lethal injection these days. | ||
| So all I'm saying is don't fall for the trap of sitting there and when they spice this in with these people. | ||
| Look, Hollywood's so evil, I don't know what Tom Hanks is into. | ||
| But we need to actually go out to people that we have red-handed, like Bill Clinton. | ||
| Like Bill Gates. | ||
| Donald Trump. | ||
| So, yeah, I mean, this is just a don't be sucked in by the client list. | ||
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Don't do kill by association just in case. | |
| Crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That really seems to be the overwhelming point that he's getting at. | ||
| He brings it up over and over again, and it's a little transparent. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the only reasonable response to this list is get him. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| You know, do it. | ||
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I mean, it's so obvious. | |
| If it's not get them, it's let's deal with this. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, yeah, it is like the list came out and then everybody on the list should be arrested tomorrow. | ||
| Sure, but from what I understand, the actual thing that was revealed was not that much more information than was already available. | ||
| Sure, I mean, I imagine... | ||
| And there is still more information to come and stuff. | ||
| Which says even worse things, you know? | ||
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| So, speaking of even worse things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We now get to Brother Nathaniel. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Showing up. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You may have forgotten. | ||
| I did forget. | ||
| He was destined to arrive. | ||
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Bummer. | |
| So Alex introduces him in a dishonest way. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I have seen this guy for 15 years online. | ||
| And Brother Nathaniel Kapner joins us. | ||
| He was born to two Jewish parents and raised traditional Judaism in a synagogue. | ||
| Having attended Hebrew school, Sabbath school, and regular synagogue services, he felt from his bar mitzvah days that something was missing in Judaism. | ||
| At the age of 19, he read the New Testament and the first time was convinced that Jesus was the Messiah. | ||
| Later on, his adult life, he felt necessary to start a Real Jews news website and video to point of the dominant influence of Jewry in all facets of American life. | ||
| And this is part of a series I'm doing where we have Nick Fuentes on, and then I'm going to have Ezra Levander, who's awesome, on. | ||
| I love Jews. | ||
| I love Muslims. | ||
| I love everybody. | ||
| I want to be clear about that. | ||
| But I think we should hear what the different sides are saying. | ||
| And I used to see Kapner, very entertaining, kind of being aggressive and mad at certain groups. | ||
| I think now I've seen his videos. | ||
| Pretty powerful things he says about Christ and about the Orthodox Church. | ||
| And I'm not part of that. | ||
| I'm just a Christian with the Holy Spirit. | ||
| And I think it's important to have these dialogues and then ask him questions here today that I have. | ||
| I don't think that he's actually all that associated with the Orthodox Church. | ||
| I think he's just a madman. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's mentally unwell. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is definitely true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you can see a bit of the sleight of hand trick Alex is trying to pull here, where he's acting as if he's doing a series of interviews where the different parties are either pro or anti-Israel. | ||
| That's where rebel media head Ezra Levant comes in. | ||
| He's pro-Israel, and Alex referenced interviewing him to get that perspective. | ||
| The problem is that the other side that he's interviewing isn't actually anti-Israel. | ||
| They're anti-Semites. | ||
| Brother Nathaniel Couch is anti-Semitism and in opposition to Israel, so does Nick Fuentes, and let's throw yay into that pile. | ||
| Alex doesn't actually have any representation of a real, non-bigot opposition to Israel position on his show. | ||
| You can easily see the problem that this presents. | ||
| There are very many understandable reasons to be critical of Israel's government right now, and in fact, it's very difficult to conjure up a sensible defense for their government's actions in Gaza. | ||
| Alex's audience is very primed to be receptive to the anti-Israel positions, and by having outright anti-Semites be the only representation of that position on his show, This isn't an accident. | ||
| It's the fundamental dynamic of the entire information space that Alex exists inside of. | ||
| Most people who have credibility or sincere actors probably wouldn't agree to come on Infowars, but there are some who would do it. | ||
| Alex would never want that kind of person being the voice of opposition to Israel's actions in Gaza because it would be too difficult of a conversation for him, and it would risk them pushing back on other essential parts of his game. | ||
| Because he only really associates with other people who are also playing games themselves, this is what we get. | ||
| And let me be clear. | ||
| I'm not just talking shit and accusing Nathaniel of being anti-Semitic when he actually just doesn't like the Israeli government. | ||
| He did a three-part series on his website called How Jews Think, and I'll just read off a couple of the points that he brings up. | ||
| Quote, The Jew loves being in control. | ||
| The Jew loves to be at the top of the ladder. | ||
| If Christianity were again to be in predominance in America, the Jew would be horror-struck. | ||
| For then, he would have the finger pointed at him that he is a Christ denier, a stubborn, stiff-necked hater of Jesus Christ, and a supporter of the Jews who brought Christ to Pilate to have him crucified. | ||
| So we've got Deicide going. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And there's another one. | ||
| Always a good one. | ||
| Quote, the Jew will use every means possible to undermine Christianity in whatever nation he may reside. | ||
| He will always cry, look what they did to us, as if he's an innocent lamb without any faults. | ||
| But whenever someone shows why, quote, they did this to them, he shouts back, you're an anti-Semite. | ||
| So this has to do with Nathaniel's frequently stated belief that it was the actions of Jewish people that were to blame for Hitler's decision to do the Holocaust, which Nathaniel also thinks is a hoax, which is kind of confusing. | ||
| Yeah, that is confusing. | ||
| Here's another one. | ||
| Quote, the Jew does not like to perform manual labor. | ||
| To make money, the Jew is dependent on the labors of others. | ||
| Therefore, the Jew is primarily found in service professions. | ||
| Alright, man. | ||
| It's very explicit in his writing that he isn't just opposed to Israel or Zionism. | ||
| He believes that he is at war against the Jews. | ||
| In one of his articles titled, quote, How the Jews are Destroying America, he says, quote, Jews, mostly Zionists, have spearheaded every movement that it now threatens our destruction. | ||
| He makes a distinction between Jews and Zionists, and it's clear he's talking about Jewish people as a whole. | ||
| He proceeds to say, quote, What can we do to stop the Jews? | ||
| Will we fear and quake before the buzzword of anti-Semite, or will we stand in battle for the survival of Christian civilization? | ||
| It's up to all of us to wage war against the Jews, especially we Christians, for America will either be a Christian America or a Jewish America. | ||
| There is no in-between. | ||
| Alex is professing to have a solid awareness of this guy's work, and he's been watching him for a decade. | ||
| This is the work this dude puts out. | ||
| Alex has every reason to know exactly what he's doing. | ||
| There is no leg to stand on that he thinks that this is gonna be any kind of other conversation than what it is. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Fucking garbage. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So, one of the things that, like, as we, you know, I've given you a little bit of an understanding of what Nathaniel does. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| And what his product is. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so, it becomes really difficult to stomach this when you realize, as Alex explicitly says here, he invited him on. | ||
| And so, Brother Nathaniel Kepner, you can start wherever you want here. | ||
| I just thought it'd be interesting to have you on, so thank you for accepting the invitation. | ||
| There's a war going on, and Sun Tzu says in the article... | ||
| Already off. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| You must know who the enemy is. | ||
| Or we're shadowboxing, as St. Paul says. | ||
| I know who the enemy is. | ||
| I can go right to the Bible. | ||
| And I can go to the book of the apocalypse, and our Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ said it twice. | ||
| The synagogue of Satan. | ||
| We're off to a bad start. | ||
| Yeah, this is not good. | ||
| No. | ||
| And if you want to look him up, get a visual on this guy. | ||
| Because I think he might look exactly like you imagined. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So if you pull out your phone and you want to look him up, by all means, feel free to do that. | ||
| All right, Brother Nathaniel. | ||
| What's the last name? | ||
| I don't remember at this point. | ||
| I just keep calling it. | ||
| As my naming of clips went down, I went from Brother Nathaniel to Nathaniel to Nathan to Nate. | ||
| It just got less and less formal. | ||
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All right. | |
| Well, see, you know what makes it easier to look for? | ||
| Brother Nathaniel? | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| He looks exactly like what I thought he would look like. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| His voice matches his appearance. | ||
| Everything about it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So he gets even more explicit. | ||
| Jews are the enemy. | ||
| They run everything in this country. | ||
| But they run internationally all the Western governments through money. | ||
| The famous saying, I'm sure you know it, Alex, by Mayor Amschel Rothschild, give me a control of a nation's money. | ||
| And I care not who makes its law. | ||
| So no one can provide a citation for that quote. | ||
| People have searched far and wide for any evidence that it was actually said by Mayor Amschel Rothschild, and they've come up with nothing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It feels like something that he would have said, and it works really well for conspiracy theories, so it's regurgitated nonstop. | ||
| But when you hear somebody repeat that, they're probably not somebody who cares that much about facts. | ||
| Probably someone playing a little fast and loose. | ||
| Generally speaking, quotes are just, leave them alone. | ||
| That's one thing that I've learned from this show over the course of doing it and seeing Alex's constant fake and dubious quotes. | ||
| It's the mark of what the problem is, though, is when someone is able to quote literature or something like that. | ||
| It is very... | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| It's a mark of somebody who's well-read. | ||
| Every happy family is the same and every unhappy family is different. | ||
| Simple. | ||
| Who said that? | ||
| So there's Karamazov. | ||
| Close. | ||
| Debatably close. | ||
| Debatably close. | ||
| So he believes that the Jews are the enemy. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Not great. | ||
| Terrible. | ||
| Terrible. | ||
| He believes they control everything, including the stock market. | ||
| And this becomes an issue for Alex. | ||
| Wait, that specifically is the problem. | ||
| Yeah, because of a relative of his that I forgot about. | ||
| So this is what I grew up in. | ||
| With a father, strong Orthodox Jew, strong religious and racial identity, who was not a Zionist, who understood where the money comes from. | ||
| My dad knew it because he played the stocks. | ||
| His brother, his younger brother, made over a million dollars in the stock market, never worked a day in his life. | ||
| And my other brother was a stockbroker. | ||
| I think I understand some things that... | ||
| Excuse the expression, that goyim could never understand. | ||
| Well, it was actually my ancestor, direct lineage, paternal, who invented the stock exchange. | ||
| He was English. | ||
| His name was Gresham. | ||
| His symbol was the grasshopper. | ||
| You say the Jews invented the stock market. | ||
| Well, they did. | ||
| The Jews, okay, you want to say somebody, someone here invented it, but the one who internationalized it was Jewry. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's your dodge? | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| Your weirdo relative invented it. | ||
| But the Jews popularized it. | ||
| It's like hip-hop. | ||
| It's one that I forget from time to time of Alex's lineage. | ||
| Gresham, the inventor of the stock market. | ||
| He's everything, every single important... | ||
| He's like the Steve Pachanek of lineage. | ||
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Every important person is one of his ancestors. | |
| Cool, man. | ||
| So one thing that I think is strange... | ||
| Is that Alex has had this guy on. | ||
| He says that he knows what his vibe is. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He's been aware of this guy. | ||
| He invited him to come on. | ||
| He's out of the box. | ||
| Said that Jews are the enemy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That was a bad move. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But what's even a weirder move is Alex is trying to find common ground with him. | ||
| Well, I mean, we're all people, you know. | ||
| Right. | ||
| At the core. | ||
| Mayor Emshaw Rothschild was right. | ||
| Give me a control of the nation's money. | ||
| I don't care who makes its laws. | ||
| And this is what Larry Fink of BlackRock is part of. | ||
| It's part of this whole Rothschild orbit. | ||
| Well, Fink did say we're going to control everybody's... | ||
| ...control corporations, you control media, you can control every hack on Capitol Hill with money. | ||
| Well, Larry Fink... | ||
| He will never go to jail. | ||
| Never. | ||
| I guarantee you, he will never go to jail. | ||
| Well, Larry Fink did say repeatedly, we will control everybody's behavior with money. | ||
| Oh, he does. | ||
| He owns broad shares in Disney. | ||
| So he's part of this woke thing, because the whole, and I learned this from a child, the whole thing about Jewry is to destroy Christianity. | ||
| Now, if they can't destroy Jesus Christ, which is impossible, they'll do everything they can to undermine his teachings. | ||
| And one of the teachings of the Bible, okay, is that the male and the female come together for procreation and holy matrimony. | ||
| So they're going after that. | ||
| They're going after that first, and they're going after the youth. | ||
| Me and you, they're not going to get Alex. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| We're over 50. The over 50 crowd they could care less about. | ||
| It's the 9-year-olds, the 10-year-olds. | ||
| Hold on, hold on. | ||
| We've got to go to break. | ||
| I want to come back and debate you on this because I just think... | ||
| Let's just talk about it. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| Yeah, he's on a debate. | ||
| Not a debate. | ||
| Alex is trying to find common ground desperately by being like, oh, I don't like Larry Fink either. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| What are we doing here? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What is... | ||
| Here's something that I think. | ||
| Here's what something might be true. | ||
| If you let somebody like Brother Nathaniel or Alex Jones or whatever lay out a long enough plan, you, like Alex Jones, will find a personal connection to why it is not true. | ||
| You'll find something where you're like... | ||
| You know, no, I remember... | ||
| My ancestor created the stock market. | ||
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| I think that's the weird thing about how interconnected we all are. | ||
| You know, like that whole statistical thing where there's a hundred people in a room. | ||
| Everyone has the same birthday. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| One of those things. | ||
| Like, if you let these people talk long enough, you will personally know they're lying to you. | ||
| Right, but if you're a liar like Alex, the converse is true. | ||
| You let a guy talk like this long enough, you'll find things that are like, fuck, I agree with this. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| That is a good point. | ||
| Well, actually, let me even distill this down even further. | ||
| You'll hear constant things that you agree with, but you'll find something that's safe for you to agree with. | ||
| That you can't help but have to agree with on air. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So Alex, you know, I will never say to his credit, but he does try to defend Jewish people. | ||
| Doesn't go, uh... | ||
| I imagine that's not gonna go well. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| I wanna just have a Big Ten! | ||
| And I see a lot of Jews that, you know, call in and on the street that support me, that are just conservatives and are good people, like your dad was. | ||
| And, you know, we had all these great Jewish people on over the years, you know, doctors and scientists that are fighting tyranny. | ||
| And I just think it's not fair to them to just say this is a Jewish conspiracy. | ||
| You could say there's an organized global, you know, different racial crime groups, and we know that's real. | ||
| And I get opposed by those groups. | ||
| That's all I'm trying to say. | ||
| I'm going to give you the floor now. | ||
| I'm going to shut up. | ||
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Go ahead. | |
| Well, look. | ||
| Let's name some names. | ||
| Let's start with that. | ||
| And let's see what their race is and what religion they subscribe to. | ||
| Press the button! | ||
| Somebody press the button! | ||
| Who's the head of Disney? | ||
| Robert Iger and Alan Pranger. | ||
| I don't like the way you said it! | ||
| They're Jews. | ||
| What are they doing? | ||
| Well, they get a lot of money from... | ||
| Larry Fink of BlackRock, who's into Woke to destroy the youth, to get them to cut off their penises and stick in uteruses. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| They're Jews. | ||
| There's two Jews. | ||
| Let me give you another Jew. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Don't say it. | ||
| Albert Bourla, I think his name. | ||
| Greek descent, ethnically, but Jew racially. | ||
| He is the head dude of the clot shot. | ||
| A poison in your vein, the mRNA. | ||
| It's not a vaccine. | ||
| He's a Jew. | ||
| There's two. | ||
| Okay, medical, the Jew. | ||
| Culture, the Jew. | ||
| Disney, okay, Pfizer. | ||
| All right, he's the CEO of Pfizer. | ||
| Of course, he's a front man. | ||
| There's money behind it. | ||
| Jewish money. | ||
| Alex, what are you doing? | ||
| I'm just gonna debate this guy, by which I mean let him list off the names and ethnicities of everyone that he can think of at any given point in time. | ||
| Great! | ||
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Cool. | |
| Cool! | ||
| This is dark. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Yeah, you know what always confuses me about these? | ||
| I mean, it doesn't actually confuse me, but I get it. | ||
| It's just like, man, there are so many CEOs. | ||
| I get that you can list off, you know, and that, I mean, to a lot of people, it seems like, how many CEOs could there possibly, there's so many of them. | ||
| There are a bunch. | ||
| There's so many. | ||
| Don't, I mean, it doesn't matter how many, anything under like 150 CEOs, I don't care what your sample size is. | ||
| Isn't that the point of demographics? | ||
| Well, and also, I mean, like, These people that you're taking aim at are about conspiracy nonsense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, there's valid criticisms of Disney, and they're not yours. | ||
| They're not the ones you're making. | ||
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Right. | |
| There's valid criticisms of Pfizer, and it's not that it's a clot shot or whatever bullshit you're going in. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Seems... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's just all very stupid. | ||
| And I mean, like, I can't stress enough how... | ||
| Pathetic it is? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just Alex sitting there, and it was like, I'm just gonna let this guy name off people and demonize them about their Jewishness. | ||
| I mean, we couldn't even sit there without going, oh, no! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It should be a physical, visceral reaction, you know? | ||
| I didn't think... | ||
| Oh, I should react this way to this input. | ||
| No, but Alex doesn't have that same instinct. | ||
| Yeah, that's a bad thing. | ||
| So, apparently the Jewish people took over the country back in 1913. | ||
| 1913? | ||
| Yeah, the Fed. | ||
| Well, I mean, for sure. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| So, Nate talks about that a little bit. | ||
| Now, I'm always going to go back to this, and it's going in one ear after the other, not with you, but with others. | ||
| Give me a control of the nation's money and I care not who makes its laws. | ||
| America lost its sovereignty in 1913 when the Jews from Europe, headed by Paul Warburg and his brother, Max Warburg, who were connected to the Rothschild dynasty. | ||
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Those are the real big boys. | |
| And they took over our money printing. | ||
| And you, Andrew Jackson, wanted nothing to do with it. | ||
| He's the real hero. | ||
| Are we going to have another Andrew Jackson? | ||
| You're not going to get into it with Trump, because he is tied into Jewish money with all his real estate. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| Trump's daughter is married to a Jew, so he's got Jewish children. | ||
| Well, she's a Jew because his first wife is a Jew, Alex. | ||
| I know this because she never went through the mikvah service. | ||
| See, every Goyish girl who wants to convert to Judaism to marry a Jewish boy, Jared, has to go through the mikvah. | ||
| These are something I understand. | ||
| Nobody else does. | ||
| She never did. | ||
| She didn't have to because Ivana is a Jew. | ||
| You look at her face. | ||
| We all know. | ||
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Well, here's what I just... | |
| They look at my face. | ||
| We know each other. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| She never went through the mikvah. | ||
| She's already a Jew because Jews trace their race. | ||
| And their race is everything. | ||
| Through the mother. | ||
| It's everything. | ||
| Through the mother. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I mean, this interview should have ended. | ||
| There's no reason to continue this interview. | ||
| I mean, past the point where he says, like, Jews are the enemy, like, maybe 40 seconds into talking to him, I don't think there's much reason to ask him questions about who Ivanka decided to marry. | ||
| I would say to everyone listening, there are plenty of people, you know, there's tons of people who are already on board, but there are plenty of people who might push back, right? | ||
| Refer back to the tomato conversation and then listen to that and then see if your opinions have changed. | ||
| Maybe back then, maybe an hour ago, you were like, I think tomatoes are the wrong way to go. | ||
| And then you listen to that and you've already got a tomato in the air. | ||
| Yeah, it seems hard not to have one. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And lock and load your members of the nightshade family because it gets worse. | ||
| See, when Jesus said the synagogue of Satan, he is talking collective. | ||
| Jews operate as a collective. | ||
| You want to find out how many Jewish organizations there are? | ||
| You can't count them. | ||
| There's probably a thousand of them because Jews operate as a collective. | ||
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If there's probably a thousand, then you can count them. | |
| It's a very countable number. | ||
| But he will never condemn the Pharisees for crucifying our Lord God and Savior. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| Do we still need to? | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| Are we at the place now still where it's like, oh, you're not condemning this act of terrorism, the killing of Christ several thousand years ago. | ||
| Your neighbor, who happens to be Jewish, might be a perfectly nice person, but still a member of the synagogue of Satan. | ||
| See, that makes me think that this isn't about Israel. | ||
| This isn't about Zionism at all. | ||
| Doesn't feel like it. | ||
| This seems like a Nazi fuck. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| Oh, well. | ||
| I do like the idea of my next interview series is going to be all the different flavors of Nazi, and we're going to figure out what shade of beige goes best with what form of uniform. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I think that obviously having an interview series with people like this, that maybe could be something that is useful to public understanding. | ||
| But it would have to be someone very well equipped and prepared to have an adversarial interview with someone like this. | ||
| But, you know, knowing what people in these... | ||
| Maybe that could be profitable to people's understanding of people actually do think this, and they have an audience, and these people exist. | ||
| Maybe that does help some public awareness. | ||
| Alex Jones is not the person to do that. | ||
| He's not equipped, and he's not even setting out to do that. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's promoting this guy. | ||
| And considering the number of, uh, this Nazi dresses well, we've read over the years. | ||
| Yeah, Lord knows who's fucking... | ||
| I don't know who. | ||
| And far be it for me to be pretending that I could do it. | ||
| I couldn't have a conversation with this guy that would be productive. | ||
| I don't want to more than I could, or I don't even want to think about whether or not I could. | ||
| I don't want to. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't want to either, but I don't labor under the delusion. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Like, oh, put me on the mic with him, and I will do a responsible, effective interview. | ||
| I don't think I could. | ||
| No, I'm not trying to Mark Wahlberg this plane. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, certainly not. | ||
| So Alex asks him, I guess he wants to get off the track a little bit, and he asks him about his conversion to Christianity, and so he tells... | ||
| That's going to keep you back on the same track, isn't it? | ||
| It's a long story. | ||
| It's a long story. | ||
| It has to do with his rabbi spitting when he hears about Jesus. | ||
| But it goes so long. | ||
| So I just cut to the part where Alex takes issue with something. | ||
| I was with the Jews for Jesus movement. | ||
| I handed out the booklets with them and all that. | ||
| And I knew all the time that there was something missing in Judaism. | ||
| So I was with them, but not full time. | ||
| Because I wanted to make money. | ||
| I was a good Jewish boy. | ||
| I wanted to make money. | ||
| And I became a salesman. | ||
| But I would hand out booklets with them. | ||
| Jesus made me kosher. | ||
| If you don't like being born, try being born again. | ||
| Let me stop you again. | ||
| I want you to continue your story. | ||
| But only Jews want to make money. | ||
| I mean, this is just... | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| You said you're not... | ||
| Listen, here's my deal. | ||
| Here's the deal. | ||
| I'm trying to have a little... | ||
| I cannot... | ||
| I cannot sit there and say one group of people... | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| This is a serious question. | ||
| I gave you some names. | ||
| Let me ask you a question. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| It's like Alan Durswood said, Jews shouldn't apologize for being successful, okay? | ||
| The point is... | ||
| I never said that. | ||
| I said Alan Dershowitz said it. | ||
| Your buddy. | ||
| It's on Twitter. | ||
| It's on Exploit. | ||
| On a list! | ||
| Alan Dershowitz says Jews should never apologize for being successful. | ||
| On a list! | ||
| I'm saying nobody... | ||
| Here's the deal. | ||
| Here's the deal. | ||
| I've been successful with my listeners supporting me, and I don't have any groups, not the CIA, not the FBI, not the ADL, tell me what to do. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| So I know damn well my audience and myself built this operation, so I'm just tired. | ||
| Of apportioning magical power to Jews, and if I slip on a banana peel tonight, that I'm going to... | ||
| Money is not magic. | ||
| Money buys politicians. | ||
| Answer my question. | ||
| So you think only Jews like money? | ||
| I never said that. | ||
| You keep saying the Jews... | ||
| I was a good Jewish boy. | ||
| I wanted money. | ||
| It's one thing to make money. | ||
| It's another thing to print money out of thin air. | ||
| You and I would be counterfeit. | ||
| If we did that. | ||
| So man, he is just like so desperate to find a safe way to attack this guy that he makes up something. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| Alex's impulses here are very weird because I hate Nathaniel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think he sucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And even I can tell that I wanted to make money like a good Jewish boy. | ||
| I can tell that's a joke. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's... | ||
| Alex intentionally is misreading that to have a safe way to, you know, kind of pretend that he's pushing back. | ||
| That's what he's doing. | ||
| He's trying to create the appearance of disagreement in some way as opposed to the fundamental disagreement that he should have with this guy, which he doesn't. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It is not a disagreement. | ||
| If you say, listen, I know the stereotype, but... | ||
| I'm an extremely greedy person. | ||
| That doesn't help. | ||
| That doesn't help anybody. | ||
| No. | ||
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You're just reinforcing a stereotype? | |
| Maybe. | ||
| Via association. | ||
| So there's another angle of this, too, that I think is really interesting. | ||
| I don't really fully understand how to flesh out and explain. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you know how Alex constantly says that people take things that he says in jest or satire, and then they attack him over it? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's doing that to him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's doing the thing that he says everybody else does to him, which is the constant dynamic. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not good. | ||
| So we get to Putin. | ||
| Oh, I wish we didn't! | ||
| He likes Putin. | ||
| I'm unsurprised. | ||
| I'm unsurprised. | ||
| So they talk about Putin here, and Alex concedes something that is bizarre. | ||
| The globalist, whoever you say runs it. | ||
| Go after anybody trying to create their own monetary system. | ||
| Qaddafi, Saddam, you're right. | ||
| They always start a war. | ||
| So are you expecting a war start over? | ||
| They can't get rid of Vladimir Putin. | ||
| They would love to. | ||
| They're using Ukraine boys, these poor Christian boys, to get rid of Vladimir Putin because they've got this crazy woman who was born Noodleman. | ||
| Her name is Victoria Nula. | ||
| Nula, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, Goyesha name. | ||
| That's Goyesha. | ||
| She was born a Noodleman, okay? | ||
| Because I know this. | ||
| We all know this, okay? | ||
| She's the one that wants to destroy Putin. | ||
| Jews hate Russia because Russia is now revitalizing what is known in Carmen Parlons the Byzantine Empire. | ||
| Stop there. | ||
| It's true that he's revitalized the Byzantine Empire. | ||
| What? | ||
| Wait, why are you agreeing? | ||
| That's not in line with the things that you say all the time, Alex. | ||
| Putin's trying to revitalize the Byzantine Empire? | ||
| That one... | ||
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I thought he was just trying to protect Russians in the Donbass region. | |
| Yeah, I mean, or at the very least, try denazification as a... | ||
| Sure, no, he's trying to reconstitute the Byzantine Empire. | ||
| Yeah, that one does sound, and I'm going to throw this word out there, imperial. | ||
| A little. | ||
| Revitalize the Byzantine Empire. | ||
| Good stuff, Alex. | ||
| You fucking clown. | ||
| If you want to revitalize an empire, generally speaking, revitalize suggests that it returns to similar, if not greater, position of power. | ||
| If you have lost territory, revitalizing that might be... | ||
| Retaking or perhaps invading other people. | ||
| And I'm not the greatest expert on empires and maybe geographical history and stuff like that, but was Russia even in the Byzantine Empire? | ||
| Was it more Mediterranean? | ||
| I don't... | ||
| I mean, I think it extended east enough to count for some of Russia, but it wasn't like all of Russia. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm looking at maps here. | ||
| I pulled up a map here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It goes east enough to touch Russia, right? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's... | ||
| Well, maybe the Soviet Union. | ||
| Well, I think... | ||
| There we go. | ||
| I think that reveals far more than we really want it to. | ||
| Yeah, run it back. | ||
| I put the pieces together. | ||
| Yeah, that is the... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So anyway, Nathan. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Nathaniel. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Nate. | ||
| He knows people who know Putin. | ||
| Because, of course, all of these people. | ||
| I really don't think he does. | ||
| Putin looks at the long range. | ||
| That's how he's operating his military operation in Ukraine. | ||
| Not to just go in and destroy and destroy. | ||
| He's looking at the long range of attrition. | ||
| He's a very clever man. | ||
| I know people in my Orthodox Church who know him personally. | ||
| And they tell me things that no one else is going to know about him. | ||
| I know how he operates. | ||
| So he is in it for the long term. | ||
| Now 2024 may be a lousy year for us. | ||
| Alex, and I include you with us, I do. | ||
| Okay, because you're fighting for a sovereign America. | ||
| And I am too. | ||
| But the difference between you and me is I name the names who are the real enemies who are really controlling these things. | ||
| Because this is the whole Jewish mind I grew up with. | ||
| How are we going to try to control the goyim because the Jews look upon the goyim as stupid? | ||
| Yep. | ||
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So, Alex, what are you doing? | |
| What the fuck are you doing? | ||
| Well, here's what I'm going to do. | ||
| I'm going to debate this person who I disagree with violently about their anti-Semitism. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Now, I will give them the floor to list the names and ethnicities of... | ||
| And then I'm also going to let him spout as much anti-Semitic bullshit as possible. | ||
| Vile nonsense. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not going to push back on it beyond to say that, you know what? | ||
| I think sometimes he takes one single stereotype a little bit too far. | ||
| In a joke. | ||
| Humoristic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then I'm also going to allow him to say that we're alike, but the difference is that I name names and you don't. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You're a coward. | ||
| I would really want to let that one slide. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| So instead of being too upset about that, Alex decides to go ahead and plug his website. | ||
| Great! | ||
| People can find you. | ||
| What's the best place for people to find you? | ||
| We'll do 15 more minutes, but where do you find your reports? | ||
| Real June News. | ||
| I do videos. | ||
| State-of-the-art videos. | ||
| My graphics are just, well, blow people away. | ||
| State-of-the-art. | ||
| It's like a Marvel film of all the things. | ||
| I just want to open a dialogue with everybody and listeners, you know, get mad. | ||
| Alex, I want to tell you they banned Bible with Brother. | ||
| I wanted to just do the Bible. | ||
| I was reaching the kids, 16, 17, 18. Hold on. | ||
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We've got to go to break. | |
| We've got to go to break. | ||
| And speaking of making money, I've got to make money to fund this operation, the crew, the satellites, the legal stuff. | ||
| That's what I'm saying! | ||
| Trump, too. | ||
| I think Trump's great. | ||
| I think Trump's great. | ||
| Good instincts. | ||
| So they canceled Bible with Brother. | ||
| Can you believe it? | ||
| This is about as horrifically anti-Semitic. | ||
| As, like, Dean Martin on one of those roasts in the 60s. | ||
| I mean, big picture, I get a real bad vibe from this guy. | ||
| Even despite what he's saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, if you take what he's saying out of it, the way he's communicating and such makes me feel bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If I were somebody who was in an interview position, I wouldn't feel comfortable with this. | ||
| No. | ||
| Even if he wasn't saying all this horrible shit about Jewish people. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's got the wrong meter for the way you can... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, not good. | ||
| So, Alex comes back. | ||
| I don't know why... | ||
| Why are you continuing this? | ||
| I thought the part of the, like, hey, we've got to go to break, was a little bit of a, we can... | ||
| No, I need to do a plug. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, and then I can get you off of it. | ||
| He said I'm going to do 15 minutes more with you. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| So, Alex, this clip is just titled, Alex asks stupid questions and gets stupid answers. | ||
| And so, are you saying, do you believe the Khazarian thing, that Ashkenazi aren't Jews, or is it the Babylonian captivity, or Sephardic's the real Jews? | ||
| Are you saying they're all Jews? | ||
| I mean, there's a lot of questions. | ||
| We laugh at the Khazar theory as kids. | ||
| This is a theory by some scholar who was made popular by Arthur Kessler called the 13th Thrive. | ||
| Get Jews off the hook or deicide. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| There's no hook. | ||
| It wasn't Jews today because everyone's a Khazar. | ||
| They didn't crucify Christ as a collective. | ||
| So it's just a stupid Khazarian myth. | ||
| It's totally ahistorical, no historian worth his worth. | ||
| If Jews are a collective... | ||
| Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. | ||
| Let me ask you a question. | ||
| If Jews are a collective, I'm asking a question. | ||
| Hold on, hold on. | ||
| Let me ask you a question. | ||
| Is it the Sanhedrin, and is the Sanhedrin secretly operating? | ||
| Jews don't need a Sanhedrin. | ||
| They don't need it. | ||
| It's called the synagogue of Satan. | ||
| They're all connected to it, through money, through culture, for the destruction of Christian mores. | ||
| Now, you want to bring out transhumanism, transgenderism, the main moneymakers of Jewish surgeons, the main pushers of transgenderism are those who own the media. | ||
| I used to live near the owner of CVS. | ||
| His name was Murray Rothstein. | ||
| He changed his name to Sumner Redstone like he's some blue-blooded Yankee. | ||
| We laughed at him. | ||
| But the Goyim don't know. | ||
| And he started this MTV to destroy the youth. | ||
| Now, I wanted to just talk briefly about my Bible with Brother. | ||
| I decided I'm going to just do Bible with Brother on YouTube. | ||
| I'm not going to do any politics. | ||
| But I wanted to be really cool and I wanted to reach the youth. | ||
| Seems likely. | ||
| It's going to be real cool. | ||
| I don't think this person is someone that I would want to put on air. | ||
| I would say counseling. | ||
| Oh, that would be good. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No, I don't think it would take. | ||
| I agree with you there. | ||
| I think that... | ||
| Here's the bottom line, too. | ||
| If you go to his website and you watch any of his state-of-the-art videos... | ||
| I was worried. | ||
| I think you would immediately come away with the impression, I don't think I want to talk to this guy. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't think this is going to be fruitful. | ||
| I think you'd predict it would go like this. | ||
| And Alex, instead, has been watching this guy for a decade and decided, I'm going to have him on as the voice of opposition to Israel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Great! | ||
| Yeah, every time. | ||
| Every time. | ||
| All of a sudden, out of nowhere, MTV made it to ruin the youth. | ||
| They did. | ||
| I'm glad that's still around. | ||
| But see, his perspective that MTV was created to destroy the youth is evidence, for me, that his Bible with Brothers show would be really cool. | ||
| And it would reach the youth. | ||
| But here's the thing I have. | ||
| Here's the thought, alright? | ||
| MTV created way back when. | ||
| The people who MTV was ostensibly created to corrupt. | ||
| They're 50s and 60s now! | ||
| They're Brother Nathaniel's age group! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| So is he ruined? | ||
| Has he not wrestled with the fact that perhaps he watched one MTV one time? | ||
| He watched The Grind. | ||
| One time! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, and that's all it takes. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I was in Dare. | ||
| It only takes one time. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| What else? | ||
| 120 minutes? | ||
| He watched that. | ||
| Fucked him up. | ||
| I don't know, some Michelle Gondry music videos made it, that Foo Fighters Everlong one. | ||
| Yeah, that'll mess you up. | ||
| That'll screw you up. | ||
| Can't talk with a better example than The Grind, because that's so fucked up that that was a show. | ||
| I'll be honest, I don't get into the bashing of MTV as destroying a generation or any of that nonsense, but it is weird that The Grind existed, because that was just a show where you were watching people in bikinis dance. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| That was it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| There was nothing else to that show, as I recall, than just half-naked people while music played, and they're dancing at, like, some resorts on spring break. | ||
| What I find fascinating about that is that it is, like, the weirdo pervert's version of being high at 3am and just watching, like... | ||
| Diagrams move on a screen. | ||
| It wasn't even a thing where it's like, we're going to teach you a dance. | ||
| It wasn't a thing where it's like, this is a good cardiovascular exercise. | ||
| Dancing. | ||
| It can be some good burn some calories. | ||
| It was just people grinding on each other. | ||
| And it wasn't even like bringing something that... | ||
| Wouldn't be where you are. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like Soul Train. | ||
| Soul Train sent so much into the homes of people who could not experience it. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Well, debatably, like... | ||
| I understand you can't get a beach full of... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, but you could watch a movie that Elvis was in. | ||
| And I don't think The Grind was only on during spring break, but that's the one that sticks out in your memory. | ||
| Yeah, that is true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's always spring break somewhere. | ||
| That's the rule of the grind. | ||
| You know where it's never spring break? | ||
| Bible with Brother. | ||
| So anyway, I agree. | ||
| You may be surprised to learn that the Jews canceled Bible with Brother. | ||
| I decided I'm going to just do Bible with Brother on YouTube. | ||
| I'm not going to do any politics. | ||
| But I wanted to be really cool, and I wanted to reach the youth. | ||
| I wasn't interested in preaching to the choir. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Now, what happens? | ||
| I get 3,000 or 4,000 comments from kids. | ||
| You don't think the kids don't know who's going to comment section? | ||
| They have a profile on everybody on YouTube. | ||
| Okay, everybody. | ||
| After I get a million views per month, shut me down. | ||
| Done. | ||
| For what? | ||
| I thought this must be an algorithm. | ||
| Because I'm using biblical language. | ||
| Maybe they thought it was political language. | ||
| They would not tell me. | ||
| Now they got some Hindu that take place of Wysitski. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Well, Shitsky still runs that. | ||
| They put some brown skid Hindu on, like Ravi Shankar on Google. | ||
| I know who owns it! | ||
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Whoa. | |
| It wasn't Larry Rabinowitz, who changed his name to Brin. | ||
| And it wasn't, no, Sergey Rabinowitz. | ||
| And it wasn't Larry Page. | ||
| There were two boys at Stanford. | ||
| And someone from the Mossad who is connected with the CIA, because they are interlinked, started Jougal with those two boys. | ||
| But they didn't need them anymore. | ||
| They got rid of them. | ||
| So I know who got rid of Bible with brother. | ||
| It wasn't the Hindu, okay? | ||
| The brown skid dude, the window dressing. | ||
| I knew who it was. | ||
| It was Susan Wyszycki and the tribe. | ||
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Oh my god. | |
| Alright, it's all exhausting. | ||
| No, that's not the response to that! | ||
| That is not the response to that! | ||
| You did this, Alex! | ||
| That is not the response! | ||
| Oh, this is exhausting. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| Do your job, then, man. | ||
| I do agree it is exhausting. | ||
| Yeah, no shit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. | ||
| There's only one person to blame for that, and it's not Brother Nathaniel. | ||
| It really isn't. | ||
| It really isn't. | ||
| He's doing exactly what you would do in this situation if you're a bigot. | ||
| You're going to spout your bigotry on this large platform that you're being afforded. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex is to blame for this shit. | ||
| And brother has the feel of somebody who cannot stop themselves. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yes. | ||
| That's why he did Bible with brother. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| So Alex, undeterred by all of this. | ||
| How? | ||
| Decides, hey man. | ||
| You seem like an astute mind. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| Tell me about your prediction for the election. | ||
| It turns out Vivek, not going to win. | ||
| I didn't think so. | ||
| How do you see this election going? | ||
| You're saying it's going to be a rough year. | ||
| We're 10 months out. | ||
| You seem like a heady guy. | ||
| What do you think is going to happen? | ||
| Heady. | ||
| Well, it'll be rigged. | ||
| It's either rigged at the ballot box or it's going to be rigged at the White House. | ||
| So either way, it's going to be rigged. | ||
| Vivek's got some great things. | ||
| He's never going to get in. | ||
| We know that. | ||
| They're not going to let some Hindu in. | ||
| That's not going to happen. | ||
| Whoever gets in, they may allow Trump to get in. | ||
| They may allow that. | ||
| Okay, but you see, with Trump, it's not that the Jews hate Trump. | ||
| They don't. | ||
| They fear his followers. | ||
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They see with them the American flag. | |
| USA. | ||
| This is nationalism. | ||
| The meme. | ||
| Nationalism. | ||
| Where there's nationalism, the Jew sinks down. | ||
| So it's not Trump that the Jews hate and try to destroy. | ||
| They despise, they fear. | ||
| His followers, because those are the white Christians, the patriots, who in a drop of a dime can turn against Israel and say, hey, why are there so many Jews running everything? | ||
| Why are the Jews able to put this money out of thin air? | ||
| Why are the Jews pushing woke? | ||
| Why is the media pushing transgenderism and homosexuality? | ||
| Why are the Jews putting all these lesbians in charge of the mayorship? | ||
| They fear the Great Awakening. | ||
| They fear the people of the Great Awakening. | ||
| I don't go into abstracts. | ||
| Jews don't go into abstracts. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So I don't know what Alex could have expected other than that when he asked what your prediction for the election is. | ||
| I mean, I guess he probably was maybe thinking of, like, what's the candidate you think is going to do well. | ||
| Maybe you want to talk about Nikki Haley? | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| Making fun of her. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| See, that is the thing, though. | ||
| For me, that is the line that I always feel like if you're going to say that, you have to back it up. | ||
| If you say confidently, the election is rigged, and it's going to be rigged, your only next sentence is, we have to overthrow the United States government. | ||
| You cannot tell me anything else, otherwise fuck you. | ||
| Otherwise fuck you, I don't care. | ||
| No, the flip side of it could be nihilism. | ||
| No, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| No, but you don't have to encourage overthrowing the government. | ||
| You could just be like, nothing matters. | ||
| Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. | ||
| You have... | ||
| You've effectively brought us to a binary. | ||
| If you care about politics and you believe that every single election will be rigged... | ||
| Yeah, then either don't care or overthrow the United States government. | ||
| Yeah, I'm just saying that's the other side. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But that is my point. | ||
| Any other response you have, you have brought it to the binary. | ||
| You've brought it to the line that cannot be crossed. | ||
| But here's the problem. | ||
| This guy, I think, is saying overthrow the U.S. government. | ||
| But by virtue of hating Jews. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So I think that he is passing your test, just in the wrong way. | ||
| I suppose, yes, that because he believes that, well, yeah, I guess you're right. | ||
| You know, if his prescription for making sure we don't have rigged elections is disallowing Jewish people from having any position of power or expelling them from the country, then, you know... | ||
| He has taken a perverted version of what you're saying. | ||
| Yeah, I suppose you're right. | ||
| Yeah, I suppose you're right. | ||
| Alex, on the other hand, he fails your test. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Fascinating. | ||
| So, speaking of failing, Alex fails in any sense. | ||
| Because he likes this guy. | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, yeah. | ||
| He's been watching him for 15 years. | ||
| Over a decade. | ||
| I've sat here and I've debated some of the most prominent names that obsess on Jews all day. | ||
| Oh God, don't. | ||
| And you've not done this, so I think you're being fair. | ||
| But they always describe that I'm controlled by Jews. | ||
| I'm controlled by me. | ||
| Check out his website, Alex. | ||
| I'm in charge of all this. | ||
| I really believe in what I'm doing. | ||
| I'm trying to create unity around ideas that transcend all this. | ||
| You became a Christian, and I believe you're right about it. | ||
| Christ is obviously the Messiah. | ||
| You can feel it and see it. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| Any demonic attacks, Christ's name is all-powerful. | ||
| It's real. | ||
| People I know that aren't even Christian get attacked spiritually. | ||
| They ask for God's protection. | ||
| It happens. | ||
| But, again, it's baby out with the bathwater. | ||
| Why don't we have an outreach to everybody? | ||
| The Hindus, the Jews, the Muslims, everybody. | ||
| Because I pull back here, and I see the left, the universities, Google, the CIA backing Islam right now, and I see this weird right-wing anti-Jew alliance with Islam attacking Israel, and you say, you know, if Israel went away today, that's a tiny little country. | ||
| What would that do? | ||
| I see it as a cop-out. | ||
| I think the hearts of men are desperately wicked, as the Bible says, and I don't think Jews have a monopoly, and I don't think they're immune from it either, but I really... | ||
| Don't prescribe and ascribe mythical powers. | ||
| I think you're an interesting guy. | ||
| I don't describe mythical powers. | ||
| Gapner, you're very likable. | ||
| I mean, like Larry David, super funny, likable. | ||
| I mean, I'll be point blank. | ||
| I think Jews are pretty funny, likable people. | ||
| You feed on a picture of Jesus Christ. | ||
| That's despicable. | ||
| Now, there's no such thing as a good Jew. | ||
| It's oxymoron. | ||
| Because if you identify as a Jew, you identify with the Christ crucifiers. | ||
| So, yeah, Alex likes this. | ||
| He's very likable. | ||
| He's very likable. | ||
| This guy hates Jewish people. | ||
| He uses the K-slur bit on his website, which is definitely a sign that he's invested in a conversation about Israel and power and Zionism as it exists politically as opposed to just being a fucking bigot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that's what he is. | ||
| And Alex understands that, but is refusing to act as if that is the case. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, this is reminiscent of like... | ||
| Doctors panels in the 50s, where it's like, we've got 13 white men to determine how to deal with black women's health issues. | ||
| And you're like, well, surprise, not well. | ||
| But Alex, I just don't understand his insistence in pretending that this conversation has anything to do with Israel. | ||
| I'd be saying, like, if Israel disappears tomorrow, you know, like, that has nothing to do with this. | ||
| This is out and out Nazism. | ||
| This is literal Nazism. | ||
| There's no other way to describe a thing that is Nazism more than it's Nazism. | ||
| Now, it's funny you should bring that up. | ||
| Is he about to say that this is not Nazism? | ||
| Well, Alex decides, hey, why not ask him what he thinks of Hitler? | ||
| Why not ask him? | ||
| Great. | ||
| I bet this is going to be a good answer. | ||
| Oh, sure it is. | ||
| Then what do you think of Adolf Hitler? | ||
| Because I think Adolf Hitler was power man. | ||
| You could look at him. | ||
| He glowed with satanic energy. | ||
| I mean, you could just look at him. | ||
| He's powerful, but you're like, whoa, that's evil. | ||
| I mean, he exudes satanic energy. | ||
| You have discernment. | ||
| You look at a speech of Hitler. | ||
| You look at his eyes, and you're telling me that's not Count Dracula? | ||
| Take a look at his pictures with children. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| That's what I do. | ||
| I look at body language. | ||
| I study body language. | ||
| I was a straight-commissioned salesman for 25 years. | ||
| I know body language. | ||
| The children love Adolf Hitler. | ||
| Now, I just did. | ||
| Oh, yeah, it says a lie. | ||
| I don't see any evil. | ||
| They didn't see any evil. | ||
| You know who can pick up evil? | ||
| Children like that. | ||
| Children love me, okay? | ||
| They just look at me. | ||
| Other people, children, they want to come up to me, they want to hug me, they want to talk to me, whatever, okay? | ||
| But I'm very careful I don't touch children, okay? | ||
| So you think Adolf Hitler was good? | ||
| Okay, what is Brother Nathaniel? | ||
| I'm not saying anyone is perfectly good. | ||
| I would never say that because we're human beings, okay? | ||
| We all have shades of everything. | ||
| Now, Hitler's main concern... | ||
| But he was anti-Christian. | ||
| Hitler was anti-Christian. | ||
| He was a pagan. | ||
| Okay, I'm not even going to go there. | ||
| I'm going to go with what he wanted to do for Germany, like other people want to do for their own nations. | ||
| He wanted to do something for Germany. | ||
| He saw that the Jew who controlled the press, who controlled the arts, who controlled theater, who controlled politics, the Weimar regime, okay, and who controlled the stock market, okay? | ||
| This guy seems very likable. | ||
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Ugh. | |
| Weird. | ||
| I mean, I think of a proportion or incidence of guests who have very positive Hitler feelings. | ||
| Seems high for Alex. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It seems like it's increasing quite a bit. | ||
| It's notable. | ||
| Something that I find interesting about how we as a society deal with all this stuff. | ||
| Not we. | ||
| How I watch society from my weird window and wonder if any of it's real. | ||
| Because it's insane. | ||
| But only crazy people are honest about the logical inclusion of their beliefs. | ||
| That's kind of our society, right? | ||
| Everybody agrees only crazy people would be honest about what they believe. | ||
| Because you would be crazy to say that, sure, as a vicious and horrible anti-Semite... | ||
| I hate and wish for the extermination of Jews, but it would be ridiculous to say that I love Hitler. | ||
| That would be crazy. | ||
| So despite the fact that Alex is like, well, I agree with all the things that you have said. | ||
| And you're very likable, and you have discernment, and you seem very heady. | ||
| To say that you love Hitler is crazy, sir. | ||
| It seems like it's not disqualifying around Infowars. | ||
| You think? | ||
| It's at least the third guest. | ||
| Of note. | ||
| In a short period of time. | ||
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Oh boy. | |
| I don't know if Alex was expecting that answer, but I can't imagine why he wouldn't have. | ||
| Because in society, it's crazy to say the honest truth. | ||
| Well, but, I mean, you know, once bitten, twice shy, as they say. | ||
| And he's been twice bitten, third time should be shy. | ||
| Of all the things that we documented extensively over this thousand episodes, I think Alex's inability to learn is perhaps one of the most consistent. | ||
| He doesn't realize there's a fourth way. | ||
| That's the only way to learn. | ||
| It's not race memory. | ||
| It's the one where if somebody does something, you go, well, we won't do that again. | ||
| Fire's hot! | ||
| So anyway, now that Nate has given his kudos to Hitler, Alex decides, now it's time to give a friendly goodbye to the interview. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Samuel Kappner, come back on again. | ||
| I want to be back on because we can have a talk next time. | ||
| And maybe I'll be a little calmer. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| It's my first shot here with you. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| I'm always wound up, too. | ||
| And the ADL says why people are inherently evil. | ||
| So they've opened all this up, so I think we should hear from everybody. | ||
| And so that's where I'm at. | ||
| I mean, I agree with you. | ||
| The ADL is pure evil. | ||
| We've opened this up. | ||
| It looks like Nosferatu. | ||
| Listen, I appreciate the debate and the discussion. | ||
| I don't agree with a lot of what you have to say, but I think it's open for discussion. | ||
| I want to thank you for coming on and having a debate. | ||
| We'll be right back with Kate Dowling. | ||
| Stay with us. | ||
| It wasn't a debate. | ||
| Yeah, so, I mean, he's friendly, biting him back on. | ||
| I don't think that, like, he was wound up or anything. | ||
| Like, that's not the criticism I would have of this. | ||
| Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| But, yeah, you pinpointed exactly the issue, and this is basically what he said when Ye was on, too. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| Which is, he has this perception. | ||
| That the ADL thinks all white people are inherently evil, and that justifies him having friends and promoting outright Nazis. | ||
| So that is the purest sort of boil down of why Alex is doing this. | ||
| Trying to platform and mainstream and run cover for, or at least make look better, these Nazi figures as an attack on the ADL because he thinks that it's justified because of his own white identity self-aggrievement. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| Which is, you know, never said it often enough. | ||
| As a narcissist, it's always got to be personal, too. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, the ADL doesn't like me, so obviously I'm a Nazi. | ||
| I'm just going to go ahead and go that far. | ||
| They were mean to me personally. | ||
| I mean, it's just... | ||
| I don't know how to describe it other than like... | ||
| This is just may as well be a Nazi-ass show now. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If this flies, then anything. | ||
| That is Nazis. | ||
| That's Nazis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oops, all Nazis. | ||
| And like I said, I don't think that it's just a situation where you can never talk to this guy. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But the context of talking to this guy is it requires a gentle touch. | ||
| It requires a not... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is not a debate. | ||
| It is not an exchange of ideas. | ||
| It is platforming and endorsing a Nazi to your audience. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I still maintain this. | ||
| Debates are incredibly stupid. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But the main reason they're stupid is not because of all the waste of everybody's time. | ||
| It's because... | ||
| If you are going into any conversation... | ||
| There should be the possibility of you learning information. | ||
| And in no debate will anybody learn information. | ||
| Usually not. | ||
| Especially not the way that they've turned into performance pieces nowadays. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I mean. | ||
| Any entertainment-based debate, which is what we're dealing with. | ||
| It doesn't matter how much you push back on Brother Nathaniel. | ||
| He came in to say that he hates Jews, and at the end of it, he's going to leave saying he hates Jews in all the exact same ways. | ||
| Yeah, and there's... | ||
| There's going to be a non-zero number of your audience who are going to be like, fuck yeah, this guy. | ||
| And they're going to be drawn to him and they're going to watch his horrific state-of-the-art videos on his website. | ||
| And that is on you. | ||
| That is your fault. | ||
| There's not going to be people who watch this interview in Alex's audience who come away with better opinions. | ||
| And then I think this is something that is always socially true that is, like, hard for us to really kind of wrestle with. | ||
| But if at the end of one of these entertainment-based debates, nobody changes anything. | ||
| And you just say, I still believe everything that I exactly believe. | ||
| It doesn't even matter what you have said. | ||
| People will just go, by your conviction, I will follow you. | ||
| That is the way that we work as animals. | ||
| So it's dangerous to have a debate-ertainment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I haven't fully thought about this, so I'm willing to be talked off this position. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I think it may cause a net negative. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| I think it might be more harm than good, that structure of entertainment. | ||
| But whatever the case, this did more harm than good. | ||
| And Alex walks away from it, I'm sure, thinking, like, I did a pretty good job there. | ||
| He probably doesn't even realize, like, the toxic bullshit that was this show. | ||
| You know, you had the... | ||
| Disgusting presentation of his deep dive on Epstein. | ||
| And then this guest who... | ||
| There's no excuse for doing this interview. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There's no excuse for it. | ||
| And there's further no excuse for giving up on really trying to guide the conversation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, just every... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Of all the things, Alex should have used his one true power shouting down this person. | ||
| You can see the way that... | ||
| Nathaniel kept talking whenever Alex tried to interrupt him. | ||
| And Alex wouldn't use the volume power. | ||
| Maybe that tool doesn't work. | ||
| Maybe it doesn't. | ||
| Maybe he's weak. | ||
| Ah, so weak. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Anyway, fuck this episode. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Bad start to the year. | ||
| This is one of, like, that's why the qualifier earlier of just, like, this is what I see through my little window into the world. | ||
| Who knows if it's, like, this does have the feel of, like, wait. | ||
| I'm being Truman showed, right? | ||
| There's no way that this is actually real. | ||
| I have bad news. | ||
| Bad news. | ||
| Don de Grand Prix is still dead, and this is real. | ||
| And this is real. | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back for another episode, but until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgeright.com. | ||
| Yep, we're also on somewhere. | ||
| Somewhere at somewhere. | ||
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Yep. | |
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I can only bleat. | ||
| The only noise that I can make. | ||
| That's truly how I feel right now. | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| Hello, Alex. | ||
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |