In this installment, Dan and Jordan wrap up 2023 by sticking around in the past just a little longer. Tune in to hear about the thrilling textbook conspiracy uncovered by the Idaho County Farm Bureau, and an assassination plot found on a Starbucks napkin.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I need, I need money Andy in Kansas Andy in Kansas Stop it Andy in Kansas Andy in Kansas Time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding us. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
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Knowledge Fight. | |
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
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I love you. | |
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| Why don't you go first? | ||
| My bright spot is what had happened was with Open Mike Eagle. | ||
| Again? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There's only one more episode left in the season. | ||
| And the last one was supposed to be this week. | ||
| The finale. | ||
| And they're talking things fall apart. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And this is when Questlove's stories are the absolute best. | ||
| Because they're doing things fall apart. | ||
| They're doing voodoo with D 'Angelo. | ||
| They got Erykah Badu running around. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They've got... | ||
| He's doing the Philly sessions at this point. | ||
| And they're telling all these great rock and roll stories. | ||
| The classics. | ||
| You know, like, oh, some were playing. | ||
| And then who drops in? | ||
| This guy. | ||
| What? | ||
| Who's this? | ||
| Oh, they called someone and he's like, oh, there's this nine-year-old with a voice like a man. | ||
| And they're like, what are you talking about? | ||
| It's Jasmine Sullivan. | ||
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What? | |
| Oh, my God! | ||
| And it is such the best, like, rock and roll type. | ||
| Stories. | ||
| Who should walk in but Paul McCartney. | ||
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Exactly! | |
| It is non-stop. | ||
| You know who that guy turned out to be? | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| It's just the best. | ||
| That does sound fun. | ||
| It's just so fun. | ||
| As it's coming towards its end, I'll probably catch it because, like I said, I need to binge stuff like that. | ||
| I refuse to wait. | ||
| It's so great. | ||
| It's so difficult just even on a much less... | ||
| Quality angle. | ||
| It's awful waiting a week to watch the challenge. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| It's debatably whether or not I'm enjoying it. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, this week's cliffhanger was murder. | ||
| Was murder. | ||
| I'm not sure I know what you're talking about. | ||
| I mean, no, no, no, not on the challenge, on what it happened was. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Because there's one more episode left, and it was supposed to be, yeah, we thought it was going to be done, and yeah. | ||
| What cliffhanger is on the challenge? | ||
| It's very resolved. | ||
| I haven't seen that one. | ||
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Almost everything. | |
| Yeah, I haven't seen the newest one yet. | ||
| I have some things to say, so I'll talk to you later. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Sounds good. | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| So, I guess my bright spot, you know, coming to the end of the year. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, this is the last episode of our show for the year. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| For 2023. | ||
| And, I mean, it's just the audience is a bright spot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're great. | ||
| Just so great. | ||
| I don't mean to pander or, you know, we've said this many times. | ||
| It bears repeating. | ||
| We do not... | ||
| Not at least. | ||
| The kind of audience, the supportiveness that people have, the appreciation of others. | ||
| I mean, you look back on this year, it's been pretty shit on a lot of fronts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whether it's from a news perspective, whether it's from a world perspective, or my mental health, certainly in the last month and a half or so. | ||
| But, you know, looking back on this year, something that will just stick out to me so much is how much the audience rallied around Erica Lafferty when she's on our show. | ||
| It just means so much to me that we have an audience that cares enough to show up for people in a way that... | ||
| I'm blown away by it. | ||
| So, thank you all for being so awesome and making some bright things in a year that kind of sucks. | ||
| And give some hope that there will be bright things even in next year, which will definitely suck. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Given the state of affairs and the fact that there's an election coming, it's not going to be good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, it is a little bit like the one nice thing for us. | ||
| In terms of being surrounded by this horror, is that oftentimes horror allows people to be their best selves, and wow, people are doing that around us. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| Yeah, and for each other, and it's all just great. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, also, Jordan, thank you for the episode on Wednesday. | ||
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Oh, sure. | |
| Wonderful interview with Brandy. | ||
| Brandy's great, yeah. | ||
| A lot of fun. | ||
| So cool. | ||
| You know, it's great. | ||
| It's always nice to see you spreading your wings. | ||
| It's always nice to be lightly condescended to afterwards. | ||
| I think what I'm trying to express is that I've gotten some feedback from folks that are concerned that you're doing these episodes because I can't do something. | ||
| Oh, absolutely not. | ||
| Oh, like I'm covering for your broken leg? | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And I don't... | ||
| I don't want people to have that perspective. | ||
| We did... | ||
| Joke about how in the preparation for the tour, it was helpful to have episodes that you did, these interviews, to fill in some of the space. | ||
| But a large part of it is you enjoy doing these things. | ||
| There are topics that we can cover in a different way than covering things with Alex. | ||
| And it's nice to expand the base of the stuff that we do. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| I mean, we can be all kinds of stuff. | ||
| Yeah, and I'm not good at interviewing people, so it's better for you to do that alone. | ||
| Sometimes that could be the case, yes. | ||
| I'm bewildered by humans. | ||
| Sometimes that could be the case, yes. | ||
| Very much so. | ||
| So anyway, we have an episode to go over today, Jordan. | ||
| And last episode of the year, I figured, what the fuck, I'm staying in the past. | ||
| So we're going to be talking about April Fool's Day. | ||
| April 1st, 2004! | ||
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Woo! | |
| Nothing quite like a New Year's Eve April Fool's Day episode. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And it is not April Fool's. | ||
| No. | ||
| Around Infowars. | ||
| It is never April Fool's Day. | ||
| They are very serious. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And this is going to be a very serious episode. | ||
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Right. | |
| Of course. | ||
| But before we get down to business on this, let's say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Ooh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, broke Alex Jones' Bill Hicks in disguise conspiracy theories. | ||
| Woke Alex Jones' man cow in disguise conspiracy theories. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
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You're not. | |
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Cheers and jeers. | ||
| Replaced by broke and woke. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Next, neither Carly nor I know how big our beds are. | ||
| Necessitating and embarrassing trip back to Ikea to return not one, but two bed frames. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Jordan would not go with me to Ikea. | ||
| We don't want to get divorced. | ||
| People say he's a good friend. | ||
| We don't want to get divorced. | ||
| But he won't go to Ikea with me. | ||
| We want to stay together. | ||
| Next, Tom in Tokyo will karate chop Alex in the neck the minute he gets off the plane. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| I forgot about that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I think it was in China. | ||
| I think it was in China. | ||
| Next, phonetic pronunciation in parentheses. | ||
| C-Gin, the listener who got three of us to listen and tell people also. | ||
| He's put in a lot of work spreading the show across the Twin Cities, where we're big fans here. | ||
| I wanted to thank him for showing me, you guys. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Thank you very much! | |
| Thank you, big ups. | ||
| Next, Knowledge Fight is my ADHD hyperfixation, so keep those extra long episodes coming. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much, too. | ||
| It took me an exceedingly long time to realize that the name Knowledge Fight is a play on InfoWars. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ! | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| You do get that from time to time. | ||
| People don't get that. | ||
| And I think that's a testament to how bad we are. | ||
| Bad marketing. | ||
| At self-promotion, at branding, at the whole thing. | ||
| Clunky fucking name that only maybe... | ||
| Half of the audience initially understands as a play on Infowars. | ||
| Yeah, it didn't occur to me that it would be good for people to know that. | ||
| Yeah, I was always like, wow, Knowledge Fight, that just seems like a nice name. | ||
| Yeah, and I think that that is how people experience it, isn't it? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, it's just a name. | ||
| It's just a name. | ||
| Oh, we're great at this. | ||
| So, we are here on April 1st. | ||
| April showers, gonna bring May flowers. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Alex had just interviewed Aaron Russo on the last episode, which he discussed on our last episode. | ||
| And now it is April Fool's Day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And like I said, no fucking around at InfoWars. | ||
| Bette Midler, finally on InfoWars. | ||
| The gloves are off. | ||
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No. | |
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Is that what's happening? | ||
| But it's very serious. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right, my friends. | ||
| It is Thursday already. | ||
| The first day of April, 2004. | ||
| I know we're not going to have any April fools on this show. | ||
| These are too serious to joke and horse around. | ||
| We're talking about real issues that affect you and your family and your generations to come. | ||
| We're going to have wide open phones today. | ||
| I'm proud of myself yesterday, despite the fact that I had a guest on. | ||
| We took about 50 calls in the three hours yesterday. | ||
| A lot of those in the third hour. | ||
| And I'm gonna do it again today. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| I was gonna say, there's no way he took 50 calls. | ||
| No! | ||
| Not even close. | ||
| No. | ||
| It was more like upwards. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 20. Okay. | ||
| And that's me being quite generous. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| But no, he absolutely did not take 50 calls. | ||
| But I think that there is, I mean, first of all, Alex isn't great with numbers. | ||
| No, that's true. | ||
| But then second, I think that this is how he experiences it. | ||
| This is how he builds himself up. | ||
| I took 50 fucking calls yesterday. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Which really calls into question all the times that he's like... | ||
| I've been on thousands of interviews with these radio shows, and 90% of the people that call in love me. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Those numbers may be a little bit off. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I was on two shows, and one guy said I was cool. | ||
| I've had some situations in the past where, you know, if you've ever been working with somebody who, like, the next day, they're like, oh, man, yesterday I put in, like, so long, and then it's like, empirically, I can go back and look at what you did. | ||
| Please do not say those words at me. | ||
| We can check when you clocked in and out at work. | ||
| And you were there for half an hour. | ||
| There is science involved, sir. | ||
| You cannot lie to me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex decides, fuck it. | ||
| I did 50 yesterday. | ||
| I'm going to up the stakes. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| We're going to give each caller about a minute, maybe a minute and a half if they're making a really good point. | ||
| And then I'm going to make a quick comment and move on. | ||
| I want to take... | ||
| Let me think of a good number. | ||
| I want to take about 70 phone calls today on the show. | ||
| There's a lot of people I talk to... | ||
| Try to call in, because once we load the phones up, they stay loaded. | ||
| Once we give the numbers out, and then a lot of people can never get in, and I don't like that. | ||
| So when you hear somebody hang up, that's your cue to try to get in. | ||
| I don't know about the phone lines, but something around here certainly stays loaded. | ||
| Seventy calls. | ||
| That's a lot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Three-hour show. | ||
| You've got to consider all the commercial breaks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It would be nonstop. | ||
| Seventy calls would be... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Here's my pitch for you. | ||
| I think you can take 70 calls, but the topic is, let me think of a good number. | ||
| So you call in, and you're like, what's a good number? | ||
| Seven. | ||
| That's a pretty good number. | ||
| Great number. | ||
| Next call. | ||
| I think you'd even... | ||
| If you just machine-gunned through them, then maybe you could do that. | ||
| Let's think about it. | ||
| There's 60 minutes an hour, so you add 10 minutes to the hour, and now you've got 70. Okay, so in an hour, there's one caller per minute. | ||
| One call per minute. | ||
| You got three hours. | ||
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Sure. | |
| That's 180. | ||
| Well, we add ten minutes to each hour. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Now you got three minutes per call with ten extra minutes added to the hour, and you're not counting commercials. | ||
| Unrealistic. | ||
| Yeah, that's not going to happen. | ||
| I have warped space and time, and this is unrealistic. | ||
| That's not going to happen, no. | ||
| It's going to be tough. | ||
| Do you want to know how many calls he takes? | ||
| I want you to guess. | ||
| Actually, I want you to tell me, what's a good number? | ||
| 18. Is 18 the number? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is not nothing. | ||
| It's not a bad number. | ||
| It's not nothing. | ||
| I hate that that's my reaction to that. | ||
| Not a bad number. | ||
| It is well below 70. True. | ||
| And if he thinks he took 50 the day before, this is a precipitous drop from there. | ||
| Yeah, that's significant. | ||
| Oof. | ||
| So Alex, we can talk about anything. | ||
| Open calls, new callers, old callers, anybody. | ||
| Anything you want. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But also, here's a topic I kind of want to talk about. | ||
| Let me give you an idea of a topic here that's pretty important. | ||
| I want to get your take on it. | ||
| They're trying to equate these dead soldiers and these dead Americans hung up on this bridge to what happened in Somalia with the whole situation in 1993 when Clinton wouldn't give the troops the support. | ||
| And I think it's horrible what happened to the people over there. | ||
| I think it's even worse in the aggregate that our troops are breathing depleted uranium. | ||
| At, what is it, 1,000 plus times the safe levels. | ||
| And that's the Army's own top scientists who resigned years ago and went forward with all of this, Dr. Ruki. | ||
| It's a lot worse that our troops have to buy their own body armor. | ||
| So I get what Alex is saying, and I agree with him that it's horrifying to see people's bodies desecrated after they're killed in war, but he doesn't have his facts straight here. | ||
| So just a little bit of background on this. | ||
| This was a situation where some Blackwater mercenary types were led into an ambush in Fallujah, and then their bodies were taken through the streets and hung off a bridge. | ||
| They did the thing. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And, you know, it's a really important event. | ||
| In that period of the Iraq War, it led to Fallujah becoming one of the big hot spots of the war. | ||
| I remember. | ||
| The response to this ambush killing was a full-on battle to reclaim the city of Fallujah, remembered as the first battle of Fallujah, which Iraqi insurgents won, which led to the second battle of Fallujah. | ||
| Well, that is the problem with them winning any of the battles. | ||
| Yeah, and also Alex keeps calling it Faljala. | ||
| He's not great. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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And you know what? | |
| Far be it from me to judge. | ||
| I'm not good at pronunciations either. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But what Alex here isn't taking into account is that they weren't military personnel. | ||
| These were Blackwater's contractors. | ||
| It doesn't make their deaths somehow more okay or make it less horrific what happened to them, but those deflections that he's giving about the military and, you know, there's constant calling them these are our boys out there. | ||
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Sure, sure. | |
| It's a little different when it's military mercenary contractors as opposed to Soldiers in the service. | ||
| When you think of the service, you think of people dedicated to the nation. | ||
| Protecting the people who live here. | ||
| And then whenever you think of Blackwater, you think of people who kill for money. | ||
| Right? | ||
| For some reason, we're okay with that in certain scenarios. | ||
| I guess that's just fine to be a contract killer, as long as the contractor is the United States government. | ||
| Eventually, Alex does realize that these were, you know, contract folks. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But he insists on assuming that they're Dyncore. | ||
| I don't think he even knows about Blackwater, really. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I think he may have heard of them once or twice, but he seems not all that familiar with the organization. | ||
| I mean, he should be far more familiar with that organization. | ||
| That should be his number one thing, right? | ||
| But it does seem weird, though, that we are aware of them. | ||
| Like, it seems video game that mercenary organizations even exist, right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like, it should be in a James Bond movie. | ||
| Like, in real life, you can't be like, oh... | ||
| I have a gun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Pay me a hundred bucks. | ||
| I'll kill that guy. | ||
| You can't do that, right? | ||
| But you can! | ||
| I mean, I don't disagree with you. | ||
| I think it's awful. | ||
| That's crazy! | ||
| But also, I don't think it's ever not been the case. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Through a lot of human history. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's mind-blowing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When you stop and you're like, no, that's in real life? | ||
| I doubt that. | ||
| I think that we put up with it as a society somewhat. | ||
| Because there's the feeling, and probably inaccurate feeling, that the alternative is forced conscription. | ||
| And so, we're like, well, if these people want to get paid... | ||
| Hey, man, if he wants to do it, at least I'm not doing it. | ||
| I'm not going to dorm. | ||
| And I don't know if that's healthy either, but I think that's somewhere in the back of people's minds. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| So, Alex talks about another headline here, and it is about sexual assault in the military. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And I think... | ||
| That Alex has a really bad angle on this. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| Also, military sex assault linked to friendly fire. | ||
| Record rapes going on. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| Yeah, because we have record women in front-line positions in a war situation where, let's just say, people's morals tend to degrade a bit. | ||
| Get the women out of front-line positions. | ||
| Let them be generals and admirals or whatever. | ||
| And let them be in support roles. | ||
| I mean, let them be in power positions, but let's not stick them in the tanks or out on Okay. | ||
| Not a great position. | ||
| So, seems to not take into account a lot of the dynamics and a lot of the information around these issues. | ||
| Like, a lot of sexual assault is done as male-on-male hazing type stuff. | ||
| You know, that is definitely a part of the issue of sexual harassment in the armed services. | ||
| I think what Alex, and I think what a lot of people with that kind of machismo point of view look at, if you say sexual assault in the military, what they think is, our boys are out there raping and pillaging in the heat of battle. | ||
| And it's like, well, I don't approve of that, but I've never killed a man either, so who am I to judge? | ||
| And that kind of thing. | ||
| As opposed to it being at work. | ||
| They're asleep. | ||
| At the same place they sleep together. | ||
| It's a job that they're being assaulted at. | ||
| Instead of this is a heat of battle moment. | ||
| On a very basic level, it's kind of absurd in an elementary sense of get women out of this situation as opposed to being like... | ||
| Dudes can't do this. | ||
| Or, like, get men out of this. | ||
| Get men out of this situation. | ||
| Right. | ||
| As if there is no way to be less permissive of the behaviors that encourage this kind of culture within the services. | ||
| I mean, you know, obviously, like I said, there's the issue of non-female targeted sexual harassment. | ||
| There's the issue of sexual assault and harassment against... | ||
| Non-enlisted persons. | ||
| So, like, it's solving the wrong problem. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that is absolutely Alex's M.O. Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Oh, they're getting hurt? | ||
| Well, they shouldn't be there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's not an operating philosophy. | ||
| Making it the women's fault for being there as the, like, as, you know. | ||
| And I think. | ||
| I'm not totally sure about this. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I feel like it's not always going to the front lines or whatever. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| But I think you don't become a general without coming through the ranks. | ||
| Without doing a little bit of that? | ||
| Some rank type stuff. | ||
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So Alex is trying to preclude women from a lot of things. | |
| Put regular ass women who ain't never done there no more, put them in the generalship, but you can't ship them out. | ||
| Can't ship them out! | ||
| I, I, because here's what I, I mean, I think it really is this, like, you and I are going to look at the idea of sexual assault in the military from an adult perspective, but Alex is looking at it from the point of view of a little boy at the Alamo going, well, war is a man's game, you know, where we prove our valor and test our might against each other. | ||
| All these women only confuse things, and it's like, I, that's, that is how he views it, you know? | ||
| That is that kind of fucked up This is why we keep fighting all these dumb wars kind of point of view. | ||
| Yeah, but he's anti-war. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds right. | ||
| So we get to calls, finally. | ||
| And I will say it's about 45 minutes in. | ||
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Sure. | |
| We get to the first caller. | ||
| And they... | ||
| 69 more to go. | ||
| So they have a perspective that the U.S. military and the U.S. government never helps anybody around the world. | ||
| And the argument is based on Burma. | ||
| That's where we start. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so she basically makes that point that never get it twisted like the government's trying to help people in Iraq because of Burma. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Just wanting people to know that we don't go help people because there's nothing in Burma. | ||
| Bush's sweatshirts are made in Burma. | ||
| And then when they got caught doing it, they said, oh, and this was in the AP report on Drudge. | ||
| We posted on InfoWars. | ||
| Yesterday. | ||
| I never even mentioned it. | ||
| That was something in the stack we never got to. | ||
| And they said, oh, it was that one shirt. | ||
| We only got one shirt. | ||
| And that's the one shirt that the Washington Post bought for its study of this. | ||
| It's just the one shirt they magically bought is the one shirt they bought from Burma. | ||
| All the others are made in America. | ||
| And what do you want to bet? | ||
| That if you buy one of those shirts, it's going to say made in Burma. | ||
| Yeah, and the major point is... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Only one shirt was made in Vermont. | ||
| And that's the one that magically got sold to the Washington Post. | ||
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The Washington Post. | |
| Thank God. | ||
| At least we got to see one shirt. | ||
| But it was one shirt. | ||
| They only bought one. | ||
| The one shirt... | ||
| Think of that lie. | ||
| A two-year-old can figure out that's a lie. | ||
| Thanks for the call. | ||
| Great points. | ||
| I genuinely have no idea what just happened there. | ||
| Good points that I brought up and steamrolled you on. | ||
| So first off, Burma had been called Myanmar for like 15 years at this point in the episode. | ||
| First thing I was about to ask was when did they change the name for Burma? | ||
| 89. Yeah, okay. | ||
| But the thing is, there are some countries that don't recognize the name change. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because it was like a military junta that changed the name. | ||
| I getcha. | ||
| But also Burma's the colonial name of the country, and so it makes some sense, Alex, hanging on to it. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Well, yeah, that's a good point. | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| I don't think he would have the same opposition to the name change that some governments do. | ||
| I think at this point in time he's still clinging to Rhodesia a little bit. | ||
| So yeah, I can see where he might be confused. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So all this being said, this was a bit of an embarrassment for Bush because he'd put an embargo on goods that were imported from Myanmar less than a year before this. | ||
| And so now... | ||
| One of his sweatshirts was made there. | ||
| So as it turns out, the clothing was sourced from Spalding, which had gotten them from a supplier called the Colorado Trading and Clothing Company. | ||
| The belief was that these t-shirts had been purchased before the embargo and had been in the CTCC's warehouse, which had then been accidentally sold to Spalding, which they had requested only Made in America shirts, and accidentally the Colorado Trading and Clothing Company gave them some that weren't. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Spalding believed that they'd sold as many as 10 of them, and when the news came out, they audited their supply, finding that they had 60 of the shirts in stock, and two of them had tags that said Made in Myanmar. | ||
| It's a bad thing, I guess. | ||
| It's perfect fodder for the drama-obsessed talk show host like Alex, but from everything I can tell, this is kind of a fairly innocent mistake. | ||
| This caller is bringing up some denser issues about the U.S. relationship with Myanmar, but the thing Alex leans toward is this shallow content. | ||
| I assume it's probably because he doesn't actually know much about the military government that was in power in Myanmar at the time, but he does know Bush t-shirts. | ||
| I'm all for... | ||
| Okay, here's what I'm all for. | ||
| I'm all for this. | ||
| But we all have to agree at the end of it to go, well, this was a huge waste of everybody's time, right? | ||
| Okay, we had our fun. | ||
| Now we're done, you know? | ||
| Because what are we doing? | ||
| How much money and audit and audit was done? | ||
| How much time and effort and money and all that shit went into finding out that there were a couple of shirts someplace? | ||
| Let me be clear. | ||
| Audit was my word? | ||
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Sure. | |
| I think they just checked their stock. | ||
| Yeah, they just looked around. | ||
| I don't think time or money really went into it so much as... | ||
| Because they only had 60 of these in stock. | ||
| It was not a high-volume thing. | ||
| See, again, the more that this goes on, the more I'm like, this was great. | ||
| Everyone, this was a lot of fun. | ||
| We've got to stop dealing with this. | ||
| Well, I think that some labor groups would have some opposition to the working conditions in Myanmar. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| The idea of getting around an embargo based on some of these issues, I think that there is reason why someone might care about this. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| But then, once the information is there about, like, there's probably an accident, this was most likely purchased before the embargo, and it wouldn't have been a real issue for anyone to buy these shirts. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Yeah, everybody should have to. | ||
| You know, like, hey, yesterday we all screamed about the shirts. | ||
| It was a great time. | ||
| We had a great time. | ||
| It was a huge waste of everybody's time. | ||
| Sorry about that. | ||
| Moving on. | ||
| There's a lot of things to complain about Bush about. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it doesn't seem like this is... | ||
| Yeah, let's let this one go. | ||
| This doesn't rank. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex gets another caller, and this fella has a bit of news that ends up breaking open this entire episode. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Let's talk to Ben in Idaho. | ||
| Ben? | ||
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Hi, Alex. | |
| Hello. | ||
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I've got in front of me a copy of a letter from the Idaho County Farm Bureau. | |
| Oh, this is going to be good. | ||
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It was sent to the Superintendent of Public Instructions in Boise on March 22, 2004. | |
| I'd like to read you just three sentences of the letter. | ||
| The following is a quote from a civics textbook, hence the 12th grade. | ||
| We the people, the citizens, and the Constitution, which has been authorized and funded by Appropriations Bill H.R. 6. The existence of a written Constitution or Bill of Rights does not mean that citizens actually have the rights they contain. | ||
| Nor does the existence of laws passed by our federal, state, and local government guarantee the citizens will actually receive the rights the laws are supposed to protect. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So I guess the government's notifying itself that, hey, let's violate their rights. | ||
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Well, the government's notifying the high school students that the Bill of Rights and the Constitution and all federal, state, and local laws are meaningless. | |
| Well, at least they're being honest. | ||
| They still have meaning because there are God-given rights, but these pack of criminals are ignoring it. | ||
| Will you please fax that to me? | ||
| Please fax that to me. | ||
| Now. | ||
| Please fax that to me. | ||
| So, I just assume... | ||
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Sure. | |
| This makes total sense to me. | ||
| Like, this falls in the same category as, like, Alex is making a big deal out of instructors saying that the Founding Fathers would have been considered terrorists. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because obviously they would be. | ||
| They were trying to overthrow a government. | ||
| Yeah, that was the idea. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They were doing it using terrorism. | ||
| Yeah, so, like, saying that is like, well, that's descriptively true. | ||
| It's not really giving a prescriptive, like, we should view them as, like, horrible terrorists or anything. | ||
| It doesn't make much sense other than maybe it helps you kind of open your point of view as to what things are. | ||
| Instead of having a more myopic, you know. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And so I can hear this and imagine very easily in a textbook this being a discussion of how imperfect laws are. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like the idea that laws are passed and that does not mean that everybody is going to enjoy those laws. | ||
| That's certainly the history of America. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Laws are not, like, they don't, the application of them is never perfect. | ||
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No. | |
| And rights that you have are never fully protected. | ||
| The way that they should be. | ||
| We wouldn't have to have them... | ||
| We wouldn't... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Like, okay, this law. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know that it's against the law for this corporation to do that. | ||
| You know it. | ||
| We know it. | ||
| The corporation knows it. | ||
| Everybody knows it. | ||
| But they also know... | ||
| Come get me. | ||
| You know, it's going to take time and effort and all this shit, and if they can pull it off, then sure, it's against the law what they're doing, but you don't have the gumption to really take them to task for it, right? | ||
| Laws are what can be and what will be enforced. | ||
| Yes, that is objectively true. | ||
| I see this as being something along those lines that could be in a civics textbook that would help... | ||
| Understand the intersection between idealism and realism as it relates to the state, the government, all of these things. | ||
| Saying and doing ain't the same thing. | ||
| For Alex, this is them announcing... | ||
| They are taking our rights away and burning the bill into the... | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, that is... | ||
| But he's very excited about this. | ||
| He does have the energy of the, like... | ||
| The Christian in 8th grade science who's just waiting for that moment. | ||
| When we evolved... | ||
| Ha ha! | ||
| We did not evolve! | ||
| And you're like, oh god, this is going to happen, isn't it? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And let's not mince words. | ||
| This isn't about the textbook. | ||
| This is about a letter. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| So Alex said, he decides, we're going to dig a little deeper into this thing. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| You know, I believe what Ben just said. | ||
| He lives in Idaho. | ||
| He lives down the street from Jack McClam. | ||
| And the caller just read me a government document being distributed to the high school students saying that we don't have the constitutional rights and that we're a Roman Republic where the common good is there and that we're basically a bunch of communists. | ||
| And I've seen similar stuff in textbooks. | ||
| But it's amazing that they're distributing this to the high schoolers. | ||
| Ben told me he's going to go over to Jack McClam's office. | ||
| We can trust Jack McClam. | ||
| I trust Ben, too. | ||
| But Jack McClam can have a copy of this. | ||
| He can then call some of the government officials, make sure of its authenticity, and then we'll have Jack McClam on in the third hour if he's there, if we can do this. | ||
| But I guarantee you, I'm going to get to the bottom of this. | ||
| Just an amazing document that Ben just read on air. | ||
| So Alex is embellishing the content of what The Last Caller read, but it's also funny that he's going to have him go to Jack McLamb to do some trustworthy authentication. | ||
| The first issue is that McLamb is a completely insane conspiracy theorist who is known to preach that the New World Order put color-coded markers on everyone's mailbox that would determine what's going to happen to you once the takeover comes. | ||
| Oh, that one didn't come true. | ||
| No, but it's like the handkerchief thing, but instead of being about sexual interests, it was about the globalists, they're going to kill you maybe? | ||
| I like it. | ||
| It's like the lipstick game. | ||
| If that claim made it through McLam's fact-checking, you could imagine it's not so thorough. | ||
| Maybe he's not doing a great job. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But more to the point, what is there to fact-check here? | ||
| There's no primary source. | ||
| At best, this caller has a chain letter sent out by the Idaho County Farm Bureau that purports to contain stuff from a textbook. | ||
| This caller doesn't have that textbook. | ||
| Just really to reinforce it, the Idaho County Farm Bureau. | ||
| Right! | ||
| They're mad about a textbook. | ||
| There's no textbook. | ||
| Well, at least they don't have it. | ||
| We don't have it, yeah. | ||
| But you can see here how excited Alex has. | ||
| He has a new meme at his disposal, and he's going to build a story out of it. | ||
| This is, all things considered, the best outcome from him when he takes calls. | ||
| Someone brings up some kind of document that alludes to apocryphal communist shit, and now we're going to make a big show out of proving it accurate. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| No, it is, it is like... | ||
| It's clearly a moment where it's like, oh, we got a show. | ||
| Now we're off! | ||
| Yeah, that is great. | ||
| It is great. | ||
| It's kind of thrilling. | ||
| But at this point, there's nothing else Alex can do while he's on air. | ||
| This is up to McLam now. | ||
| Back to talking shit. | ||
| McLam is at the lab. | ||
| At the McLab. | ||
| And he is sorting this thing out. | ||
| He is getting in touch with his very relevant and credible sources. | ||
| He's going to figure it out. | ||
| So in the meantime, Alex has to go back to calls. | ||
| And he gets a call from a guy who thinks that Clinton... | ||
| Sorry, not this guy. | ||
| The caller has a friend who thinks that Clinton did a good job because of his handling of Rwanda. | ||
| Now, debatable, but Alex tells the story of Rwanda and the genocide. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| This is awful, and also does not comport with other times that he's told the story of Rwanda. | ||
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I talked to somebody who's, like, they're in, like, UT Law School, you know, a real, like, smart guy, and he's sitting here telling me that, like, Clinton was a great president. | |
| I'm like, well, why? | ||
| Like, what's so good about him? | ||
| What did he do that was good? | ||
| And he says, well, Rwanda. | ||
| And he always goes back to Rwanda, you know, like, he did the right thing. | ||
| That was a good thing to do. | ||
| Well, in Rwanda, they killed, what, 800,000 Tutsis for their land. | ||
| The Hutus were hired. | ||
| The UN was caught doing it. | ||
| Hired? | ||
| It's just amazing, yeah. | ||
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But the UN was caught actually, like, causing all the... | |
| Yeah, they killed, they believe, about 100,000 by their own hands. | ||
| They would take the Tutsis into a refugee camp, pull out at night and have the Hutus kill them. | ||
| And there's also video and photos of them cutting their heads off. | ||
| The Tutsis were the middle class. | ||
| They owned the land. | ||
| And the Hutus had been the downtrodden group. | ||
| And so the UN hired the Hutus to kill them so Dutch Royal Shell and others could have the oil. | ||
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Okay, where should I go to read about this? | |
| Good question. | ||
| It's in my film, all the news articles, America Destroyed by Design. | ||
| Just type in a human behind Rwanda mass murder. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| That will definitely limit your search results for sure. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Citation. | ||
| My bullshit film. | ||
| You will get exactly what you're looking for. | ||
| See, Alex is making all this shit up, and one of the dead giveaways is him saying that the UN hired the Hutu to kill the Tutsi so the UN or Dutch Royal Shell could come take the oil. | ||
| That one sounds right. | ||
| Rwanda's not an oil-producing country, so this is idiotic. | ||
| But it's the prevailing narrative about the invasion of Iraq, so Alex can't help but trying to make everything connect. | ||
| Just roll it all together. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Pure and simple, Alex is making shit up about a genocide in order to use it for his own purposes. | ||
| He's a huge piece of shit. | ||
| This is unbelievable. | ||
| That's believable. | ||
| But it's past the line, let's say. | ||
| It is like if you're writing a screenplay, the best adapted screenplay category often has people who have condensed characters for time. | ||
| It's all put there in such a way as to make more sense in the runtime allotted. | ||
| Alex is doing that for real life, which is not good. | ||
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It's bad. | |
| It's bad for real life. | ||
| Especially if you are supposed to be the news. | ||
| Yeah, and especially if you're supposed to be the guy who's like, Broad spectrum. | ||
| I know everything. | ||
| God gave me a road map of all history in the world. | ||
| And has granted me ultimate discernment among all people. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Best adapted reality. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's, uh, yep. | ||
| It's, uh, I mean, offensive. | ||
| It is, yeah. | ||
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Yeah, yep. | |
| So, we get another caller. | ||
| And this guy brings up something that I found very interesting. | ||
| Something that I had forgotten from this period of 2004. | ||
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Okay, okay. | |
| How you doing, Alex? | ||
| Fine. | ||
| I just wanted to know if you heard what I heard this morning on one of the news channels. | ||
| I forget which one it was. | ||
| MSNBC or Fox News. | ||
| Okay, doesn't matter. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| It was about a waitress at a Starbucks retrieving a napkin at Rumsfeld, and somebody else had been writing on while having morning coffee, talking about the problem of Mr. Clark being eliminated soon, and it was like a drawing of his house or something else, one of the funeral. | ||
| Yeah, I did hear about leaked memo shows how they, quote, wanted to deal with Clark, and I printed it. | ||
| That was yesterday, and then it got set aside in a stack, and I don't know. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| I'm getting hit with so much. | ||
| Somebody call in. | ||
| Well, the phones are loaded. | ||
| Ah, shit. | ||
| No one can call in. | ||
| Fuck, what am I going to do? | ||
| I did not remember this one. | ||
| No? | ||
| You didn't remember Donald Rumsfeld planning an execution on a napkin at a Starbucks? | ||
| Rumsfeld planning an execution on a napkin at a Starbucks? | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
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You forgot it there? | |
| Yeah, that would be... | ||
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Yeah, that's sloppy. | |
| From a tradecraft perspective. | ||
| That's just bad work. | ||
| I think you want to do your assassination planning? | ||
| Probably not at a Starbucks on a napkin. | ||
| Also, foolish to sign it, you know? | ||
| Signed Rumsfeld. | ||
| Doodling, doodling assassinations. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex, he saw a headline about this and totally meant to cover it, but didn't, which is a theme. | ||
| But he's like, ah, fuck. | ||
| Someone call in and tell us what happened here. | ||
| Wait, the phones are loaded. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| Hey, caller, you brought this up. | ||
| You tell me what happened. | ||
| Give me the rundown, yeah. | ||
| I did read just the top of the article, printed it, something came up. | ||
| This is a great story. | ||
| And it was on Drudge, and it was, you know, memo shows how they plan to deal with Clark. | ||
| And you heard this on the news. | ||
| What did they say? | ||
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Well, it was just like maybe a 15-second little blip. | |
| You know how to do it. | ||
| They just throw it out there on the radar screen and never say anything else about it again. | ||
| But it was pretty much that, you know. | ||
| That was all there was to it. | ||
| It was that our napkin was retrieved, and, you know, it made reference to Richard Clark. | ||
| You know, that problem being eliminated soon, and it was like a sketch of his house. | ||
| That was all. | ||
| Like I said, it was real early this morning. | ||
| Why is Rumsfeld drawing his house? | ||
| It couldn't have been more than a 10-second little piece. | ||
| Were you watching television? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was, like I said, on one of the... | ||
| Well, that's the problem. | ||
| I have a stack, literally, of probably 50 stories, as big as what you just talked about. | ||
| I mean, we have the stand-down order of Rumsfeld months before 9-11 saying, now generals can't shoot planes down. | ||
| It's got to come through me. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| It's so sick. | ||
| Thanks for the call. | ||
| I'm really glad you called. | ||
| Yeah, it was worth it for that call. | ||
| That was great. | ||
| A lot of information. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that story, as insane as it sounds, is real. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| Not all the details in the color as basic facts wrong, but the day before this episode, it was reported that someone found handwritten briefing notes at a Starbucks in Washington, D.C. They were written by a guy named Eric Ruff, Sure. | ||
| Clark had told the 9-11 Commission that the Bush administration had ignored warnings to take al-Qaeda seriously, warnings that he himself had given. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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And he testified about how Bush had been obsessed with Iraq. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Prior to any of this, you know, basically some of the stronger testimony that could be given that there was a plan that maybe an Iraq war would happen. | ||
| Whatever happened? | ||
| At least a hope that we'd have a reason to do that. | ||
| Well, the good news is we got that all cleared out. | ||
| So obviously this was a tough spot for the Bush team to be in. | ||
| So this note was found, which wasn't a napkin. | ||
| It was about ways to respond and counter the narrative that Clark was putting forth. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It had nothing to do with killing him, and it didn't include a drawing of Clark's home. | ||
| Be very strange. | ||
| There was a handwritten map about how to get to Rumsfeld's house, which was likely there because Ruff didn't know how to get there, and he was supposed to go deliver a briefing. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| So that was it. | ||
| How to get there. | ||
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Some of the primary details were a little bit off. | |
| You might, if you're listening to Alex's coverage of this, come away with a wrong perspective. | ||
| True, true. | ||
| Misinformation. | ||
| Now, I will say, I will say, a little bit of this has to be placed at the feet of Donald Rumsfeld. | ||
| If there was a man for whom evil does appear to come naturally, I mean, I saw the documentary. | ||
| I looked a man in the eyes. | ||
| He's a devil. | ||
| He's insane! | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| You could say that his behavior and such... | ||
| Leads people to take more credibly something like he's assassination planning on a napkin at Starbucks. | ||
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Totally. | |
| If you said that W is assassination planning, everybody goes, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| He was just drawing a house. | ||
| If you say Rumsfeld was plotting an assassination, they're like, he's plotting my assassination right now! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so also, a waitress didn't find it. | ||
| Someone else who went to the Starbucks found this stuff and then gave it to the Center for American Progress. | ||
| Left-wing organization. | ||
| And so they published this. | ||
| Well, yeah, that sounds about right. | ||
| Yeah, so that's a waitress finding a napkin. | ||
| But I think what's getting mixed up here is that famously there was a Rumsfeld napkin from the time that he was working with Gerald Ford. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And there was an economist who had drawn a curve of what you need to do to fix the economy. | ||
| And that napkin... | ||
| It has an association with Rumsfeld, and I think because of that, these two things, maybe that was brought up as some kind of context around the story in the piece that this guy saw, and he's just mixing all of it up in his head. | ||
| So he's describing, like, okay, we saw the briefing notes, and then just kind of it gets Mandela affected together with a napkin, and then they just condense to the same story. | ||
| Or the person who's doing the report that this guy saw on TV. | ||
| Brings up the napkin as, like, this isn't the first time Rumsfeld's been associated with, like, something left at a bubble bar. | ||
| He's got a fun fact. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so I'm just trying to, like, spitball ways that this could have gotten... | ||
| This game of telephone could have gone wrong. | ||
| Could be there, yeah. | ||
| So we get another caller, and they have a pretty... | ||
| Actually, this isn't... | ||
| I don't think this is actually a caller. | ||
| I think this is just Alex giving some news. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Real news? | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Best adapted reality. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It has to do with Rick Perry, governor of Texas, employing somebody who's a Mexican citizen is no good. | ||
| Governor, pretty boy, Perry, turns out his chief negotiator is a Mexican citizen. | ||
| And by the way, I already knew about this, but here is the Eastern Chronicle. | ||
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He's a lobbyist for the Mexican government! | |
| Oh, yeah! | ||
| And by the way, Vicente Fox was here four months ago. | ||
| I bullhorned his speech down. | ||
| He had to shut it down, they admitted, in the news. | ||
| Lord Fox gave an award to the police chief and others for not following the federal law and doing nothing to illegal aliens. | ||
| He actually gave him awards for it. | ||
| It was in the news. | ||
| After conservative Houston activist Mary Williams, Limbaugh would call her liberal, received documents confirming that Governor Rick Perry, head of Texas-Mexico Relations, is a Mexican citizen, she shared the information with some of her political friends. | ||
| That apparently prompted an anonymous letter sent to farmers and ranchers claiming Mexico isn't paying its water debt to the United States because Helena... | ||
| I apologize, I'm not good at a lot of names. | ||
| Helena Coleandro, a resident alien, is negotiating on Texas, Baham. | ||
| And it says, now the Texas Secretary of State's office is demanding Williams return all the documents she received, citing that the inadvertent release of confidential documents, just who this public official is, the letter also demanded a list from Williams of everyone who she has shared the documents. | ||
| Public documents, they release it because they are public. | ||
| It's just who this person is registered as, this big government official, and it's a Mexican citizen who's a lobbyist for Fox, and... | ||
| So they're threatening her with arrest. | ||
| That you tell us who you talked to, who you choked us to, everyone will shut up now! | ||
| I don't think they're threatening anyone with arrest. | ||
| I was very confused by that part. | ||
| So it is true that Helena Coleandro, Perry's then head of Texas-Mexico Relations, was a Mexican citizen, but she was also a legal resident of the United States. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This alone could be seen as iffy, but she's legally allowed to have a job, and I don't feel like the fact that she's from Mexico should disqualify her from... | ||
| Seems like she could be well equipped to deal with the issues that come up related to Texas-Mexico relations. | ||
| Seems really important. | ||
| But I can see how this may be a little bit of an edge case where arguments could go one way or another. | ||
| And because of that, Alex has to make shit up in order to make it appear like his side is so clearly correct. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's why he says that she was a lobbyist for Vincente Fox, which I can find no evidence of. | ||
| Okay, that sounds right. | ||
| I found a Dallas Observer article about her, which was exploring the possibility that she was hired for a position with the Texas Tomorrow Fund due to nepotism, since her husband was the chief of staff for Texas Comptroller Carol Keaton Rylander. | ||
| In that article, it goes extensively through her work history and education, and it doesn't Yeah. | ||
| Kind of tell that Alex has no knowledge of this story from how he begins covering it. | ||
| Listen to this clip. | ||
| You'll hear a good indicator. | ||
| And by the way, I already knew about this, but here is the Eastern Chronicle. | ||
| He's a lobbyist for the Mexican government! | ||
| Oh, yeah! | ||
| Alex said he. | ||
| Alex thinks the negotiator in question is a dude because he has zero knowledge about this story. | ||
| He's just kind of winging it. | ||
| The issue with this whole thing is that this anti-tax activist, Mary Williams, made a public records request about Coleandro, but the people who were fulfilling this request accidentally included her resident alien number, which is not a matter of public record. | ||
| Oh, for God's sakes. | ||
| The government wanted that information returned because it's a very sensitive, confidential thing that isn't subject to public records requests. | ||
| Get your social security number out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the issue that they had. | ||
| They didn't really care about other shit. | ||
| No, that's fucked up. | ||
| Man, I hate it when they do shit like that. | ||
| That's the most annoying. | ||
| But again, from everything I was able to find, it does seem like that was a legit mistake that was made in terms of fulfilling the records request. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And it's just being exploited around. | ||
| And I think that the only thing, really, that you have to go on is that she's from Mexico. | ||
| That's the only thing that they're mad about. | ||
| And implying that there's some kind of dual loyalty. | ||
| There's some kind of working on behalf of Mexico because she's from Mexico against the United States' interests. | ||
| And I don't know if I see any indication of this. | ||
| It is so weird because it feels like that's that same... | ||
| Evolutionary humans find patterns, even if there aren't patterns anywhere. | ||
| Just as, like, you know, like, oh, this is why whenever you look up at this guy, it looks like there's a guy out there. | ||
| It's because your brain makes that happen. | ||
| That idea of, like, oh, well, you know, dual Mexico, just instantly. | ||
| Like, that doesn't mean anything. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's just born. | ||
| She'd lived here for over a decade. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Gone to university here. | ||
| Had jobs in marketing and stuff here. | ||
| And it's just basically like you can't trust people who are not American. | ||
| I find it very, very... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not convinced. | ||
| I've never understood the idea. | ||
| I get people being like, oh, America's the greatest and they want to destroy us. | ||
| But I don't get why you wouldn't go, well, America's the greatest. | ||
| And that's why they want to join us, because it's fucking awesome. | ||
| She's lived in America for a decade because it's fucking great. | ||
| Isn't that the idea? | ||
| Why aren't we all like, yeah, it's fucking great here! | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I mean, that makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But then also, in order to make this argument to cast suspicion on this person, Alex has to make stuff up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like that she's a lobbyist for Vincenti Fox. | ||
| That seems weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You could not be. | ||
| Well, and definitely this article that he's talking about, this Chronicle article, does not say that at all. | ||
| And that's why it's weird when Alex is reading the article. | ||
| Benjamin Hansen, General Counsel and Secretary of State, Geoff Conner, loving conservative, said he is just trying to recover a document that contains information that could be used to invade the privacy of the foreign lobbyists. | ||
| So in the actual article it says invade Coleandro's privacy and Alex switches it to invade the privacy of the foreign lobbyist. | ||
| Now you can tell when he's editorializing For, like, he makes a loving conservative or whatever. | ||
| That isn't a strong indicator that he's deviating from the text of the article. | ||
| Right. | ||
| When he says, invade the privacy of the foreign lobbyist, he's using the same reading voice. | ||
| It looks like quotes. | ||
| And that is intentional. | ||
| That is lying. | ||
| He is lying to the audience by way of presentation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Reading as if this article actually says the thing that backs up his claim when it doesn't. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's a fucking liar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's very true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, that's about all I got on that. | ||
| I mean, you fucking nailed him to the wall. | ||
| What else is there to say? | ||
| You see a man nailed to the wall, you go, damn, he got nailed. | ||
| There's some nails. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Big news. | ||
| We have fact-checked the document from earlier. | ||
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Well, good. | |
| We're back on the... | ||
| Okay, sweet. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The narrative continues. | ||
| Chekhov's farm ladder has come through. | ||
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right. | |
| Call rushing through the live and disinformation. | ||
| Listen to the excitement. | ||
| I wasn't going to have any guests on today, but a caller. | ||
| Ben in Idaho called in the first hour. | ||
| And Ben said that the local school district had issued a document to the high school seniors that there is no Bill of Rights, that we are here to serve the state. | ||
| And it just turned out that he is friends with Jack McClam. | ||
| And I believe the individual, when he read the... | ||
| Read the document, but I had to check it out. | ||
| He's now faxed it to me. | ||
| But to doubly check it, I had Jack McClam get a hold of it the last 30 minutes and make some calls and do some stuff, and it is the local county document. | ||
| It's a document! | ||
| What is he trying to present this as? | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| I tell you this right now. | ||
| I want to go back to when the conspiracy is... | ||
| The school gave a document to seniors, and at no point in time is everybody a pedophile. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| There's something refreshing about the tameness of this conspiracy. | ||
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A document to seniors? | |
| Who fucking cares? | ||
| Is it a document, or is it a textbook that you're misrepresenting? | ||
| Even then, what would a high school senior care? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Have you met a high school senior? | ||
| When I was a senior, I don't think I would have cared too much. | ||
| Oh, the Bill of Rights? | ||
| I'm still trying to get laid. | ||
| I have no idea what you're talking about. | ||
| Also, let me be clear about this. | ||
| Alex is making up the high school senior thing. | ||
| 100%! | ||
| Let's be clear about that. | ||
| Although I like it as a detail. | ||
| I think that a book like this that's giving kind of basic stuff on civics that might be closer to freshmen. | ||
| I don't know if that's senior year stuff. | ||
| I mean, now it's senior year. | ||
| Back then it was freshman. | ||
| It might even be junior high level kind of stuff. | ||
| Anyway, we got this fact checked. | ||
| And I do love the coming in with that blustery crash through the lies. | ||
| Loves it. | ||
| And just think for a second about the lies that we've seen just on this episode. | ||
| Crash and throw. | ||
| Making up that this person worked for Vincente Fox. | ||
| Completely botching the story about the napkin. | ||
| That's a car crash. | ||
| Saying that the UN hired the Hutu to kill the Tutsi. | ||
| Jury's still out on that one. | ||
| Not so sure. | ||
| So yeah, maybe Alex should calm down a little bit with how he's crashing through the lies. | ||
| I know, but this is really exciting to him. | ||
| So, he's got Jack McLamb there. | ||
| And to get into this, Alex starts by misrepresenting the call that Ben made earlier in the show. | ||
| Great. | ||
| We were there. | ||
| A call in the first hour from Ben in Idaho. | ||
| And I believed Ben. | ||
| You know, I've got good discernment in the document he was reading. | ||
| Damn it. | ||
| 20 years. | ||
| It's similar to what I've seen, them teaching at the universities. | ||
| And it said that, in a nutshell, we're going to read it on air in a second. | ||
| It said that there's no constitutional rights. | ||
| You don't really have any rights. | ||
| We're going to take all your rights. | ||
| First, it was just the Second Amendment now. | ||
| But America isn't about making money or having your own life. | ||
| It's about serving the state, and the state's your master. | ||
| Weird thing to put in a book. | ||
| And this is given to the high school seniors. | ||
| Yeah, I don't feel like this accurately reflects anything. | ||
| I am still hung up on this idea. | ||
| Because now the more I think about it, the more I think everybody is kind of obsessed with this idea that high school seniors are paying attention to what you think. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We can't let high school seniors read this. | ||
| Believe me, dude, you don't need to worry about it. | ||
| The one thing you don't need to worry about is what it is a high school senior is reading about the United States government right now. | ||
| I don't know if it's universal in all schools, but I remember that there was just a mandatory civics, like, maybe... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it happened when you're in junior high, maybe. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And no one cared. | ||
| No one gave a shit. | ||
| It was like they almost, and I mean, that would be a conspiracy, is that they put civics, something that is incredibly important, in a place where no one would ever pay attention to it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's a mere formality. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And everybody's acting like you shouldn't care the whole time. | ||
| Like, the teacher that told me all the stuff about statistics was like, eh, this won't come important. | ||
| You know? | ||
| And it's like, eh, well, I'm Trump. | ||
| So, um, the glam. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Comes in. | ||
| And he lays out a bit of a conspiracy about what's going on here. | ||
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But we're concerned about our schools all across the country. | |
| And, uh, we're following up on these things as fast as we can. | ||
| But praise God for Betty. | ||
| Defrini, their president of the Idaho County Farm Bureau that brought it to our attention, this book that's being taught from that is being offered at a very low price to the schools, extremely low price, so every school can afford it, because most textbooks are very expensive, but it's called We the People. | ||
| And it's right along the lines of the Humanist magazine in 1983. | ||
| Remember when John Duffy said, I'm convinced that the battle for humankind's future must be waged and won in the public school classroom by teachers that correctly perceive their role as proselytizers of the new faith, which will replace the rotting corpse of Christianity. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That might be coming in a little hot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You got a letter. | ||
| From the Idaho County Farm Bureau. | ||
| And we're skipping straight to, and that's how we're going to destroy Christianity worldwide. | ||
| That's something. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I had a difficult time trying to get to the bottom of this because We the People is a fairly common name for textbooks. | ||
| Tough to, yeah. | ||
| But there are a number of options of it that it could be. | ||
| And from stuff that I've skimmed, I don't know if it's destroying God. | ||
| I find this to be a little bit excessive. | ||
| I mean, I would... | ||
| There is a sort of curiosity I have towards what would be in a civics textbook now, but it would be assuaged almost immediately within two seconds of reading it. | ||
| It would be like, oh yeah, I'm bored by this, and then I'd be done. | ||
| Again, this is why you shouldn't care what high school seniors think about this. | ||
| You're a classic high school senior. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Just bored by civics. | ||
| What's this? | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Moving on. | ||
| So, I'm not clear what fact-checking has been done past... | ||
| McLam saw the letter. | ||
| True. | ||
| I think that's all that's going on here. | ||
| He had a really good quote. | ||
| Well, that one from Dunphy? | ||
| Yeah, that was a pretty good quote. | ||
| So we got two things, at least. | ||
| Slight paraphrasing, also, I should say. | ||
| I believe you. | ||
| But, like, I don't know what's being fact-checked here. | ||
| And I also think that if you listen to what he's saying... | ||
| He doesn't even know if it's in any schools. | ||
| He says it's just offered cheap. | ||
| Oh, it's cheap! | ||
| That's his angle on this. | ||
| It's like, oh, you can tell that it's the government because it's so cheap. | ||
| And it's offered cheap so that people will use it because all other books are really expensive. | ||
| Right! | ||
| Which doesn't tell me that it is being used. | ||
| I would almost... | ||
| I mean... | ||
| In my experience, if something's on a must-go-off-the-shelves sale, that's usually not because it's been selling too good. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm just not convinced. | ||
| But Jack McLean believes that there should be very serious consequences. | ||
| Smoking gun. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| Well, and punishments. | ||
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Oh, absolutely. | |
| Leave it out. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| For everyone involved in this textbook scheme, top to bottom. | ||
| And then to see the textbooks, and that We the People textbook, by the way, is out there nationwide. | ||
| We're getting calls. | ||
| Nationwide. | ||
| Getting calls. | ||
| Sure you are. | ||
| This is so, it shows us what they want. | ||
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Well, it's absolutely treason, is what it is, Alex, and you can't call it by any other name. | |
| Nope. | ||
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You know, it's absolute treason, and these people ought to be called up and prosecuted for treason that are putting out this information because it's totally against our constitutional system. | |
| And they know it, and it's to undermine this nation and overthrow it. | ||
| And by the way, if they wanted to publish books as part of the First Amendment and tell us communism and evil and wickedness is good, that's their right. | ||
| But when they collude to put it in the schools as part of a conspiracy, a program, that's not the First Amendment. | ||
| That's the government destroying the Bill of Rights and Constitution, and that is treason according to the Constitution. | ||
| You haven't proven any collusion here. | ||
| You haven't proven any of this shit. | ||
| If anything, you've just made a great argument against faith-based organizations and schools. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| I see no evidence of treason. | ||
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Nope. | |
| I see no evidence that this is an attempt to destroy the country. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| What part of it could be treason? | ||
| I mean, even if it's, at best, willful misunderstanding of a sentence. | ||
| On their part. | ||
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Yes! | |
| Maybe poorly written textbook material. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I just... | ||
| I yearn for this in some sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This kind of Alex episode where it's just nothing's happening. | ||
| Stakes are low. | ||
| He's talking a bunch of bullshit with callers. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And then something happens that gets his attention and it turns into a show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, we have this letter from the Iowa Farm Bureau. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Idaho County Farm Bureau. | ||
| That becomes like, oh, we've got documents. | ||
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Amazing. | |
| This is proof of treason. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You have a letter from the Idaho County Farm Bureau and you want to hang people. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This will be forgotten. | ||
| There is that, you know, the stories of, like, the Mad Kings and that kind of stuff when you get so paranoid that even the slightest thing makes you go, ah, execute him! | ||
| Like, that makes sense, I guess, if you're a king, because you can do it, but if you're just some asshole, like, ah, execute that guy! | ||
| Execute that guy! | ||
| Execute them all! | ||
| You're a fucking Jack McLamb. | ||
| Calm down. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| You've got a letter from the Idaho County Farm Bureau, okay? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would say, That, um, I was gonna say I'd take this more seriously if they had the actual book, but I'm not sure that I would. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I don't think so. | ||
| Because, so McLam ends up reading stuff from the textbook, but it's all just the stuff that the guy previously read from the letter. | ||
| He clearly just has the letter. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| And so, I don't know. | ||
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Treason? | |
| People are a little dramatic. | ||
| This is a little bit like... | ||
| An episode of The Magic School Bus. | ||
| You know, like, everybody's sitting around. | ||
| Finally, we have a question that deserves The Magic School Bus. | ||
| So we get on The Magic School Bus. | ||
| We discover, of course, the way that the government works. | ||
| And apparently that filters back through to buying textbooks. | ||
| Cheap. | ||
| Cheap textbooks. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And then Ms. Frizzle's like, and that's why they're coming to steal your children. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And destroy God and overthrow the country. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| For communism. | ||
| For communism. | ||
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Yep. | |
| That's a good plan. | ||
| It's a good... | ||
| If it works, that is the cheapest way to win I've ever heard. | ||
| So, in order for this really to work... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I'm guessing... | ||
| Okay, here's what the conspiracy has to be. | ||
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Alright. | |
| So the globalists, they make this textbook that has undermining information about the United States government. | ||
| Laws aren't real, kids. | ||
| You guys want to smoke a dope joint? | ||
| So they create this book under the guise of a textbook. | ||
| Oh, we love textbooks. | ||
| And because they have all the Rothschild money, and they don't care about a return on investment, they can sell this book cheap. | ||
| Frankly, they wish they could pay you to take it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But they can't. | ||
| That would be suspicious. | ||
| Much like Ted Anderson does with his silver. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I'll give you a silver coin to read my dumb information. | ||
| Yes, that is suspicious. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So they sell it really cheap, knowing that the government has a low education budget. | ||
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Right. | |
| So we could go one of two ways with this. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| They're exploiting the low education budget. | ||
| A little bit of column A. Or... | ||
| They're in cahoots with the government. | ||
| A little bit of column B. And they're making the price low so the government can have an excuse to use these clear communist textbooks. | ||
| See, this is where I got hung up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because that to me suggests that they also control the price of other textbooks. | ||
| Thus making it so that they could make these other textbooks look more unattractive in comparison. | ||
| Pump the brakes. | ||
| The conspiracy is now that the globalists have written all civic textbooks. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You have to add that in there. | ||
| And the ones that are good, they are artificially inflating the price of. | ||
| Why did you spend so much money writing textbooks you don't want people to spend? | ||
| Full spectrum dominance. | ||
| You gotta cover all your bases. | ||
| Vertical integration. | ||
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Right. | |
| Yeah, I getcha. | ||
| I getcha. | ||
| So I think we got to the bottom of it. | ||
| I think we fixed this one. | ||
| Ah, boy. | ||
| What a dumb episode. | ||
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I kind of really like it. | |
| So, one thing that I have been really clear about, and I will stand by this until my dying breath. | ||
| Your man. | ||
| Alex is very bad at predicting things. | ||
| Yes, that's true. | ||
| He has this reputation that is unearned, and based on bullshit and misrepresentations, that he's good at predicting things. | ||
| He's good at self-promotion. | ||
| Certainly. | ||
| He's good at exploiting attention economies, and that's more or less what he does, and the way he brands himself is a profit guy. | ||
| Also, by the way, I realize that... | ||
| We're in 2004 because we're, like, one of the things that we're trying to figure out is Alex saying that the bath party is going to... | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Yeah, they're going to be put back into power. | ||
| They are being put back into power. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Completely forgotten about that. | ||
| And Alex has not brought it up in quite a while. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds right. | ||
| And so now we're sort of in just... | ||
| No man's land of... | ||
| And we're talking about how bad he is at predicting things. | ||
| That's kind of a piece of it. | ||
| He's so bad at it and so wrong at this thing in the past that I forgot that that's what I was supposed to be paying attention to. | ||
| Yeah, I think the true irony of this would be... | ||
| If that's the one thing that he's never spoken about again. | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised. | ||
| Yeah, and then we spend the rest of our lives going through each episode. | ||
| Fine-tooth comb. | ||
| And that was the only thing that he just said and dropped for good. | ||
| I get the sense that possibly at this point he's realized how incredibly wrong that was. | ||
| And he's just stopped. | ||
| You would think. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or... | ||
| But we'll never find out. | ||
| We'll never know. | ||
| Until... | ||
| So anyway, he's bad at predicting things. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But in the interest of fairness, I decided to include a prediction that Alex makes that he's actually totally correct about. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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You think Bush is going to be re-elected, or do you think we're going to see Kerry? | |
| I've been saying for three years I think Bush will be re-elected. | ||
| I said John F. Kerry two years ago would be the running mate. | ||
| He's the running mate, not the candidate Bush is running against. | ||
| He's the coffin mate, because they're skull and bones, skeleton mate of Bush, the cousin of Bush, and it's all a stage deal. | ||
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Right, absolutely. | |
| I predict George W. will be our next live. | ||
| All right, a little bit fancy, and maybe he's a little bit off on some things. | ||
| But, you know, the question was, is Bush going to get re-elected? | ||
| And Alex says, I think he is. | ||
| I predict that he is. | ||
| Now, granted, this is a... | ||
| Pretty easy prediction to make. | ||
| Was not hard. | ||
| I think a lot of people, even people on the left, as I recall this election, no one really thought that Kerry had much of a chance. | ||
| He was a very uninspiring candidate for the most part. | ||
| Bush had the wartime president vibe going, so I don't think anybody would have, I don't know, maybe some people did, but I don't think most people would put their money on Kerry. | ||
| I seemingly recall, perhaps more than in any other election in my lifetime, everyone agreeing that Carrie sucked. | ||
| Even the people who are formally in his camp. | ||
| We're voting for you. | ||
| Against Bush. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The people who work for Kerry were like, listen, we know Kerry sucks. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| But, like, come on. | ||
| Look at him! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I do feel like all of the galvanizing energy that I remember was all, like, he's not Bush. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And Bush sucks. | ||
| Look at this war. | ||
| It was like the beginning of the never-Trump. | ||
| It was like the proto version of that, like, listen, we're just getting anything but this guy, even if it makes you want to stab yourself in the throat to vote for that guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so I think that it's an unimpressive prediction that Alex makes. | ||
| I would be far more impressed if he would have guessed Carrie and Carrie somehow magically won. | ||
| That would have been cool. | ||
| Because that would have been a pretty out there prediction to make. | ||
| Or if he was like... | ||
| Who else ran? | ||
| Alan Keyes? | ||
| I don't know who else was running that year. | ||
| That is one of those things where it's like, people remember Carrie for the Swift Boat episode, as far as the lore of the election goes. | ||
| But that's given far more credit for what really was everybody just looked at Carrie and were like, you are the most boring person I can think of. | ||
| Well, without Swift Boat in that whole affair happening, Carrie probably still wouldn't have won. | ||
| I don't think anybody has any illusions about that. | ||
| But it did make a big dent in some of his support, and it was one of the more dirty tricks that was played in recent electoral history at that point. | ||
| So I understand why it sticks out in people's minds as a really important thing. | ||
| Well, also, nothing else was really going on. | ||
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True. | |
| Hank area is so boring. | ||
| He's so fucking boring. | ||
| So yeah, congratulations, Alex. | ||
| You're right about that one. | ||
| One prediction coin in the jar. | ||
| I think that's good, yeah. | ||
| What's that put? | ||
| It's a negative 998,994. | ||
| Bottles of beer on the wall? | ||
| You bet. | ||
| Something along those lines is correct. | ||
| So we've come to the end of this, and we've really, really taken a lot of time to care about the Idaho County Farm Bureau's letter, their chain fear letters. | ||
| I mean, there is a certain part of my soul that feels like, yes, this is what we're for. | ||
| On a certain level of like, we should... | ||
| That we have so many times touched on very important subjects. | ||
| That seems bad. | ||
| But we should be here. | ||
| Somebody needs to make sure that the Idaho County Farm Bureau is not giving free reign to just panic the people about it. | ||
| They are out of pocket. | ||
| No! | ||
| No! | ||
| Here's the other thing, too. | ||
| This is something that I've maybe stressed a little bit in the recent past, but something I think is important to recognize is that Alex's career is largely yelling about drudge headlines and... | ||
| Like, your grandma's chain emails. | ||
| Like, in the present day, there's so much stuff that's just based on tweets and memes and completely erroneous or unsourced kind of bullshit that comes on social media. | ||
| And at this point in his career, it really isn't different. | ||
| It's a fucking... | ||
| Chain letter that somebody got from the Idaho County Farm Bureau. | ||
| It's something that's from a message board. | ||
| It's a headline that Alex skimmed on drudge about a napkin. | ||
| You know, it's not any different. | ||
| His career has been trivial as shit for, like, almost the entire career in terms of, like, where is the information that he's getting and disseminating to you coming from? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It might as well just be memes all the way down. | ||
| No, it is not unlike the, like, the roundup. | ||
| Kind of show format, you know? | ||
| Like, if he was on VH1 doing those, like, little boxes right next to your head things, doing a 30-second splash for each one, that would be about right. | ||
| It's like, here's your day's roundup. | ||
| Idaho County Farm Bureau, going crazy! | ||
| Next, you know? | ||
| Yeah, post on a weird gun-themed message board. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that's the thing, though, right? | ||
| It's disposable. | ||
| That's the idea. | ||
| It's not like... | ||
| We're talking about journalism or real stories, per se. | ||
| We're talking about just the Idaho County Farm Bureau's chain emails. | ||
| It's fun, yes! | ||
| No one is going to be hurt. | ||
| Well, people are hurt. | ||
| I mean, obviously, yes, Christianity will be destroyed in the United States. | ||
| Well, if this textbook gets its way. | ||
| That's true, that's true. | ||
| But other than that, you know, nobody's... | ||
| Thank God they found this textbook. | ||
| Because otherwise, our country would have been overthrown. | ||
| And God would be destroyed. | ||
| I mean, you know, but God doesn't let those kind of mistakes happen. | ||
| No, that's why he created Alex in the womb. | ||
| To keep that textbook away from the hands of those high school seniors, hungry and waiting for change. | ||
| Whose minds would have been blown by this civics textbook. | ||
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It would have woken them up to the truth that laws aren't real, man. | |
| It definitely wouldn't have made them go, oh, I will go back outside and get high again. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm going to pretend to have read this so I can do my homework. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So, anyway, Happy New Year, y 'all. | ||
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Happy New Year. | |
| We'll be back with a new episode in the new year. | ||
| Indeed! | ||
| Let's say New Year more. | ||
| That's the plan. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| We're somewhere on social media. | ||
| We are. | ||
| TBD in the new year. | ||
| It will be there. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
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No! | |
| We can't afford it! | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Woo! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| And now here comes the sex robot. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |