#862: Bankruptcy Response
In this installment, Dan and Jordan discuss a video Alex put out trying to do damage control about the recent news about his bankruptcy. Somehow, the episode is more than an hour longer than the actual video Alex made.
Oct. 23, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
01:18:55
Participants
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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and endure knowledge fight. | |
| I need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
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It's time to pray. | |
| In Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
|
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Knowledge Fight. | |
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
|
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Hey, everybody. | |
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, and here we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| My bright spot today, Jordan, is we got a lovely package from Zip. | ||
| Open up the mailbag. | ||
| Oh, yes. | ||
| From Amy. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And thank you so much, Amy. | ||
| What a delightful bunch of candy. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| Crunchies. | ||
| The rocks. | ||
| We got the crunchies and the rocks. | ||
| Crunchies and the rocks, yep. | ||
| Some mochi, or not mochi, lychee gummies. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| Bananas. | ||
| Four bonanza. | ||
| I don't know what, I don't, maybe that was a reference to Johnny Bananas. | ||
| The banana gummies? | ||
| Yeah, that's a good point. | ||
| I didn't get why we got the banana gummies. | ||
| Because there were some references, like, you know, with the crunchies and the rocks. | ||
| True, true, true. | ||
| And such. | ||
| But then also a bunch of little mini-mini blocks, little small mini-block sets that I've been posting on Instagram as I finish them. | ||
| Got one of Celine. | ||
| That I took one of the eyes out of so it would match. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Also, as of time of recording, we've got Squatch finished. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Thomas Jefferson. | ||
| Squatch looks good. | ||
| You removed TJ's mouth. | ||
| Well, it had a thing where you're supposed to have like one millimeter gap that makes the mouth, but when you're pushing blocks together, it is very, very difficult to keep that, unless it's blocked by something. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Unless there's a gap in there. | ||
| You need to put a little pin in or something. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I also thought it just looked better without a mouth. | ||
| Yeah, no, it's... | ||
| And he's so quotable. | ||
| Shut the fuck up. | ||
| I was, I mean, no. | ||
| Keep your mouth shut, TJ. | ||
| The fun part of that is I think it is almost like emblematically appropriate for you to have a... | ||
| Silent TJ, because he hasn't said any of the shit that everybody says he has. | ||
| Yeah, or at least very few things. | ||
| You can open your mouth on a very select basis, Tommy. | ||
| I think just keep it shut forever. | ||
| But anyway, very nice. | ||
| Thank you, Amy. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot was, so I've got to move all my music from one computer to another computer. | ||
| And it's going to be a long, long time. | ||
| But the fun thing about that is I get to go back and I get to just listen to all of my shit. | ||
| And man, I got to Mama's Gun, Erykah Badu. | ||
| And that late 90s, early 2000s R&B snare sound is just the fucking best. | ||
| It's a good snare. | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| Like that Questlove. | ||
| Unrivaled snare. | ||
| Oh, on phrenology. | ||
| Like that tight snare. | ||
| Oh, man, it's so good. | ||
| It is good. | ||
| And then there's so many great bassists. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So many great bassists. | ||
|
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Hubs. | |
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I think he's dead. | ||
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Yeah, I think so, too. | |
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| But yeah, so my bright spot is just Erykah Badu. | ||
| Great. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I like how you started that, too. | ||
| It made me think of those old days. | ||
| Look, I don't know if the statute of limitations is up, but I used to go Kazaa, LimeWire. | ||
| Oh, I'm still... | ||
| Getting all those... | ||
| I don't use... | ||
| Listen, they could take any of this streaming shit away from you at any time, so you should very much legally acquire all of this music. | ||
| Well, I prefer to buy music from... | ||
| Artists if I can or whatever. | ||
| I guess I don't. | ||
| I just use Spotify. | ||
| I know better. | ||
| But back in the day, you download all that shit. | ||
| And sometimes it happened to be that you'd get a virus or something. | ||
| And your computer would crash and you'd lose all your stuff. | ||
| And it was such a fun experience to try and rebuild your collection, kind of. | ||
| Yeah, there was that. | ||
| Because you'd kind of know what most of the stuff you had downloaded was. | ||
| And you'd be like... | ||
| Reassess, do I like this? | ||
| How much do I like this? | ||
| And then you'd rediscover some of the love of things that you'd forgotten and then also be like... | ||
| I don't like those anymore. | ||
| I imagine importing your catalog over. | ||
| Oh, it's great. | ||
| It's kind of similar. | ||
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It's great. | |
| You get to reassess a lot. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| No, there was a column that Nathan Rabin did, I think, for the AV Club in the late thousands, where he went through his entire... | ||
| He's a music critic, so his catalog... | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| His catalog is larger than mine. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And him going through it alphabetically, like, biting your lip and just going, I'm going to go through every single one of these. | ||
| And then, like, sharing, like, I'm scratching this motherfucker off the list. | ||
| Get out of here! | ||
| Be gone! | ||
| Wait, I have two Bloodhound Gang albums? | ||
| What is going on? | ||
| I have zero Bloodhound Gang albums now. | ||
|
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Oh, man. | |
| The Bad Touch? | ||
| Yeah, so it is nice. | ||
| Was that the album? | ||
| No. | ||
| I know one of their albums was called One Fierce Beer Coaster. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I have not thought about the Bloodhound Gang for a long, long time. | ||
| For good reason. | ||
| For very good reason. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Do you remember what their first single was? | ||
| No, but I think I remember, like, the feeling. | ||
| Oh, you know the feeling. | ||
| I think I remember how I felt about it. | ||
| And it's gross. | ||
| The roof. | ||
| The roof is on fire. | ||
| That was their first single. | ||
| Yeah, I remember that one. | ||
| Yep. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| And then they came back with the bad touch. | ||
| Shouldn't do it. | ||
| They came back with the bad touches. | ||
| Never a good thing to hear. | ||
| Big hit! | ||
| Never a good thing to hear. | ||
| No, it is certainly not. | ||
| So, Jordan, another thing that's bad to hear. | ||
| Oh, are we still doing our show? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Today we're going to do an episode that's going to be a little bit different than normal because we're not covering an episode of Alex's show, but it is still about Alex. | ||
| And so we'll get down to business on that. | ||
| But first, let's say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Raptor Princess versus the Shadow Wolves. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, your resident homestuck guy, Goomba Master. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Way, W-E-Y, Kent. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Melissa H. Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| And for my young son, Ender, who wanders around the house repeating, I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Now you are. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Think that kid has a game? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think he might. | ||
| Ender's game? | ||
| Well, he might. | ||
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Is that a thing? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, it's a thing? | ||
| It's the name of it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He might be speaking for the dead right now. | ||
| So we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So also, thank you so much, too. | ||
| September 23rd is Brian and Sarah's first and fourth anniversary. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
|
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
| He's a loser little titty baby. | ||
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ! | ||
| Happy anniversary a month ago. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I like that about... | ||
| I think we should... | ||
| I like when people send in anniversaries or stuff like that. | ||
| But when they're not on the date of... | ||
| I mean... | ||
| So we just fill people in on what other people's birthdays and anniversaries are? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That's the idea. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think... | ||
| I took a different thing from that. | ||
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What? | |
| And that is that I assume that first and fourth means that they were dating for three years and they got married on the anniversary of their first date. | ||
| Which would be very cute. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think everybody should do that. | ||
| You think everybody should do that, or you think everybody should have to do that? | ||
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Look, maybe the latter. | |
| I was about to say, there's a difference between those two, and I felt it in your voice. | ||
| When I am king. | ||
| No, I just think it simplifies things a little bit. | ||
| No, I mean, yeah, of course. | ||
| And then you don't have to have, like, multiple dates. | ||
| You're thinking in your head, oh, when's the first date? | ||
| Oh, when's the first kiss? | ||
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When's boo? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah, no, no, no. | ||
| One date. | ||
| That's the idea. | ||
| One date per couple. | ||
| One date per couple. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's your China policy? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| One date policy. | ||
| So, Jordan. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Today, we're going to be covering a video that Alex put out. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And it has to do with the news about his bankruptcy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I felt we had a fair amount of heavy bullshit over the past couple episodes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so I wanted to steer clear a little bit of having another really heavy bullshit episode. | ||
| Good call. | ||
| And then also, it came to my attention, thank you, Amanda, that Nick Fuentes is going to be in Austin this week and he's going to... | ||
| Be in studio with Alex. | ||
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Oh. | |
| We've got that to look forward to. | ||
| Wait, for the whole week? | ||
| Probably not. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| But just at least for a day where they're going to debate the Israel-Palestine situation, which... | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| I don't want any part of. | ||
| They're going to debate the Israel-Palestine situation? | ||
| I don't feel like any of that is stuff I want. | ||
| I don't like those words. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| So we have that in front of us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, and Benjamin showing up in the background. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So here we are. | ||
| I thought we'd... | ||
| Cover a bit of news about his other situation in life. | ||
| So, that big news that happened, for everyone who didn't hear, is that the bankruptcy court made a ruling on Alex's bullshit attempt to get out of paying what he owes to the Sandy Hook families, and it did not go well for him. | ||
| In essence, what the court determined was that because his judgment is due to intentional and malicious actions on his part, the damages he owes are not dischargeable through bankruptcy. | ||
| Alex was hoping that he could declare bankruptcy and this stuff would all basically disappear, but that's not gonna happen. | ||
| This debt is gonna accompany him wherever he goes in the future. | ||
| There are two distinctions that are important to remember. | ||
| The first is that Alex has declared personal bankruptcy and also bankruptcy for his company Free Speech Systems. | ||
| The Chapter 11 Subchapter 5 reorganization scheme was for the company, and it is... | ||
| Essentially failed. | ||
| The second thing here is that there are two major cases, the Texas case and the Connecticut case. | ||
| In the ruling, Judge Lopez affirmed $1.1 billion in damages as being undischargeable in terms of the Connecticut case, but that left $323 million that was awarded that may not have been the result of willful and malicious actions. | ||
| This was court fees and attorney's fees. | ||
| But I think it could be argued that Alex's behavior in the course of the suit was absolutely willful and malicious. | ||
| I would strongly disagree with that. | ||
| So I'm not sure if that will eventually be seen as willful and malicious. | ||
| If that determination needs to be sort of affirmed. | ||
| Either way, that decision is like Alex getting the ball forward one yard and then getting driven backwards into his own end zone and sacked. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| You know, you could say, hey, great news. | ||
| I owe $323 million less. | ||
| It is hard to... | ||
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That's huge. | |
| When we're dealing with this level of number, it is hard not to just be like, you know, $323 million is nothing in this scenario. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is meaningless. | ||
| It's... | ||
| In any other situation, owing $323 billion less. | ||
| It's the worst thing that could ever happen to you. | ||
| Huge news. | ||
| This is the biggest news in the world! | ||
| In this case, not so much. | ||
| So with the Texas case, it's a little bit more complicated. | ||
| In that case, Scarlett Lewis and Neil Heslin were awarded $49 million, but $44 million of that was in the punitive damages. | ||
| And according to the New York Times, quote, a trial is necessary to determine whether that amount meets the willful and malicious standard. | ||
| So that is something that will need to be relitigated, perhaps. | ||
| And that's unfortunate for the Texas plaintiffs. | ||
| And we'll see what happens. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| But big picture, this is a disaster for Alex. | ||
| He's on the hook for this and it's not going away. | ||
| Even if free speech systems collapses and goes away overnight, he owes this debt personally as well as professionally. | ||
| So while the court will never be able to take his primary home, his finances are going to be affected by this case for the rest of his life, regardless of what businesses he tries to start in the future. | ||
| They're going to be able to Any money you'd get. | ||
| Very easily in the future. | ||
| It'll be harder because it'll have to be in physical currency. | ||
| That will be the harder part. | ||
| Although he's an old salt at burying coin. | ||
| I mean, I would not be surprised to find several million dollars. | ||
| Well, his ex-wife said that he used to bury gold and stuff like that. | ||
| No, I wouldn't be surprised to find several million dollars in physical currency buried around his family's homes. | ||
| You thinking Krugerrands? | ||
| I mean, I don't know what it's buried in. | ||
| Bearer bonds? | ||
| It's something, you know? | ||
| So on top of all this, Alex still has two cases that are yet to be heard, which have been on hold because of the bankruptcy nonsense. | ||
| He still has the Posner case, where he is uniquely and deeply fucked, and the Marcel Fontaine case, which was the case that led Kit Daniels to cry in the deposition room about what he'd done to another human. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So that doesn't look great for Alex either. | ||
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No. | |
| To quote Alex, this is big boy pants time. | ||
| He was never planning to use the bankruptcy system the way it's intended to, to allow small businesses to reorganize and stay in business if they're in debt. | ||
| He was trying to dodge responsibility for his actions by exploiting what he thought was a loophole. | ||
| That loophole didn't work, so now there's no reason for him to continue this charade. | ||
| Alex can pretend that he has options to appeal, but that's not gonna work. | ||
| He's more or less out of options to stall things, and it's just a matter of time before he's forced to pay, or he begins to risk criminal cases for non-cooperation. | ||
| In the aftermath of this news breaking, Alex ran to his trusty camera and filmed a quick damage control video, which we're going to discuss here today. | ||
| His angle on this is interesting, if only because there's a couple of really shady moments that you might notice throughout this that are petty as hell. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Alright. | ||
| And also, it's just total bullshit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, yeah, I can't imagine him telling any version of any true thing on this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I've noticed in life that when people are really bad... | ||
| And have bad things coming out about them? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| One of the things they generally do is say, hey, you're going to hear a lot of bad things about me. | ||
| It does tend to happen. | ||
| I hear that one quite a bit right before I hear a lot of bad things about somebody. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| There was the... | ||
| Russell Brand put out that video right before everything came out about him, but hey, there's going to be bad stuff. | ||
| Hey, I don't know if you've heard or watched my career at all, but people are going to find out about the things. | ||
| Yeah, so Alex starts off like that. | ||
| I want to respond for the benefit of our viewers and listeners and supporters with the facts of the truth. | ||
| You're going to see headlines all over the news, Alex Jones loses in bankruptcy hearing. | ||
| And that's not what happened. | ||
| I want to take the facts for you here right now. | ||
| So we're going to get to the facts. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Which facts? | ||
| Alex's facts. | ||
| Actually, I would watch that show if it was a kid's show and only around like... | ||
| A dog or cat-themed interesting... | ||
| So it's like Blue's Clues but Alex's Facts? | ||
| Yeah, basically. | ||
| So it would be like a cartoon dog tells you something and then you go on a quest to figure out if it's true or not and it's always not. | ||
| Is that the show? | ||
| Because that's my life. | ||
| That would be an interesting rug pull. | ||
| That's my life, Jordan. | ||
| For children's TV? | ||
| If you just imagine his show being a cartoon dog, that's... | ||
| I do imagine this. | ||
| I've called you Mr. Peabody many times. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So anyway, here's the truth. | ||
| This is all true. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| When rigged, controlled juries that were told in Texas and Connecticut last year that I was guilty by a judge, and the judge told the juries to find me guilty, and they allowed false evidence that I have hundreds of millions of dollars into evidence, fraud, it was all over then. | ||
| If I were one of the jurors in one of those cases, I might consider suing Alex for defamation. | ||
| He's saying that you were the instrument of carrying out a setup case, which is an accusation of a crime. | ||
| No, I mean, it's hard not to... | ||
| It's hard not to think. | ||
| That what should be happening right now is like a flood of all the people who have needed to sue Alex for such a long time, but knew that they couldn't because the money, you know, he could always out just spend them or settle or anything like that. | ||
| Now's your chance. | ||
| Settle him with even more debt and shit. | ||
| I think that... | ||
| That is a functional strategy in terms of dealing with somebody like Alex, just overwhelming them with the consequences of their actions. | ||
| Hell yeah, keep going. | ||
| But at the same time, I think that a lot of people would not be within the statute of limitations, and that might be a frivolous act. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| Well, I mean, if you're not in the statute of limitations, don't do it. | ||
| People who are currently being lied about and defamed by Alex, I think that everybody should apprise themselves of... | ||
| Totally. | ||
| But I also respect that it's probably more hassle than it's worth, personally, to a lot of people. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And I can understand why people wouldn't want to take that on. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| I mean, that is kind of the situation. | ||
| And it wouldn't be for money. | ||
| You know, we're already past when money could even, you know... | ||
| There isn't anything left after one point something billion dollars that Alex owes. | ||
| But if you are part of the... | ||
| Alex Jones sued for defamation by every single fucker he's lied about, and it's going to happen to the next person who does that, and the next person who does that kind of thing. | ||
| Even beyond that, I think that there is an important humanizing aspect of the victims of Alex's shit. | ||
| Because so many of the people who are truly hurt and affected by the shit that he puts into the world take it... | ||
| Quietly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or you never really know about the damage that's caused by this. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I think that people giving a face to it can be helpful. | ||
| And I understand that that has definitely happened with the Sandy Hook families. | ||
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Totally. | |
| There is a deeper well of people who could put a human face and an understandable, relatable narrative to the pain that's caused by this shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And not just a face. | ||
| Not just a face. | ||
| You should have a name. | ||
| Alex Jones gets to have his name everywhere. | ||
| Well, I used face sort of metaphorically. | ||
| I mean, but that's kind of, you know, that's the point. | ||
| You are a person instead of a victim. | ||
| You are not somebody who Alex Jones, the main character, you're not a henchman that he's tossed aside on his way to get to another more important person. | ||
| You're a human being. | ||
| And maybe that's not necessarily the case for the people who are jurors in this, but I still would take it. | ||
| Take great offense to the suggestion that I was being told what to do and it was a rigged court that I was complicit with. | ||
| I would find that to be pretty shitty. | ||
| Come get me, bro. | ||
| So I want to take a couple claims here that he made more specifically. | ||
| The first is about the finances. | ||
| Alex is a constant liar, so he's not a good source of information about anything, and he refused to turn over important financial information in the course of discovery for those trials. | ||
| In order to assess what his business appeared to be making, the plaintiffs consulted a forensic accountant who came up with the best guess of what a competently run business like Alex's would make. | ||
| If Alex wanted to clear it up and prove what he made and how much the business made, he could have corrected the record, but he didn't. | ||
| The reason he didn't is anyone's guess, but the only two explanations that make sense to me are one, there's something very damaging in his finances that, if it were publicly known, would erode his audience's faith in him, or two, he makes as much or more than the accountant assessed. | ||
| He can play games with this shit for his audience, but the court doesn't care if you say that's wrong and then refuse to prove that it's wrong with the information that you should have full and easy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Grow up. | ||
| The second point I want to touch on here is the rigged and controlled juries. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| They're rigged. | ||
| What does that mean, though? | ||
| And controlled. | ||
| How tightly controlled are they? | ||
| You rig them and you control them. | ||
| Yeah, what is exactly being alleged here? | ||
| That it's just a fake jury? | ||
| I mean, it is like he's trying to say, here's what I imagine is going on, right? | ||
| He's saying that we did experience the jury pool selection, so we know there was 100 people, and we know they only chose this 14 or whatever. | ||
| And that his lawyers had input in that. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| But the ones that were chosen were plants, and they're told what to do by Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| Or I guess it's a fully above board process of choosing the jury and then they are so controlled. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, after the fact, the control comes in. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| They kidnap their families and are holding them and saying, you're going to find Alex guilty. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Is that what he's alleging? | ||
| I feel like if kidnapped families were involved, that's my first. | ||
| I'm throwing that out headline. | ||
| All of those jurors, their families were kidnapped and that's why I was declared guilty. | ||
| At this point, Alex is making such bullshit claims. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Throw it in there. | ||
| That'll be more fun. | ||
| The third point I want to talk about is the framing of how the trials were set up. | ||
| Alex says the juries were, quote, told I was guilty by a judge, and the judges told the juries to find me guilty. | ||
| That's a fascinating construction because it's such a complete lie about what happened. | ||
| Alex had every opportunity to a jury trial about his defamation claims. | ||
| He was clearly just desperate to not do that. | ||
| So he dragged his feet and stalled at every opportunity, refusing to cooperate with Discovery. | ||
| Various remedies were attempted until it became clear that he was not going to cooperate with this case in any form, so he lost in a default. | ||
| It was as if he hadn't shown up at all, basically, because he was that uncooperative and that non-responsive to requests. | ||
| Having lost by default, the trial was never about guilt or innocence, or in this case because it's a civil matter whether or not he was liable. | ||
| The case was about damages and how much he was going to owe. | ||
| The judge didn't instruct the jury that the matter of whether or not Alex was liable wasn't for them to decide and that that had already been resolved, which is not the judge telling them to find him guilty. | ||
| It's a judge explaining what the purpose of the trial is. | ||
| Further, Alex had every opportunity to have his shitty lawyer Norm Pattis in Connecticut And Ray Nall in Texas argue that he should owe the families a dollar or some minuscule amount that's just symbolic. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And that's exactly what they did. | ||
| And the juries rejected their argument. | ||
| You could argue that the jury did have the opportunity to deem Alex not liable by awarding the families a dollar. | ||
| But they didn't. | ||
| Because Alex did get his day in court, regardless of whatever games he wants to play, now that he's lost so fucking hard. | ||
| He had every opportunity afforded to him, and more. | ||
| They bent over backwards to facilitate his ability to defend himself, and he was such a shitty little baby that this is where we end up. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And even when he was in the trial, he was trying to insist to the jury. | ||
| He was like, listen, all of these are good blue-collar people to the point where eventually I remember him getting questions from the jury that was like... | ||
| Why do you think we're all the same type of person? | ||
| Asshole. | ||
| You know, like, he pissed off the jury. | ||
| Even if it wasn't rigged, he deliberately pissed off those people. | ||
| I went back and I watched Norm's closing comments from the Connecticut case. | ||
| And, like, you can tell how hostile... | ||
| An environment it is. | ||
| They hated Norm. | ||
| They hated the arguments that he was making. | ||
| And they completely and flatly rejected the argument that Alex should not have to pay these people the money that they ended up awarding him. | ||
| He had essentially a de facto... | ||
| Way of proving his quote-unquote innocence. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that is convince them to give the families next to nothing. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| That's what you would... | ||
| That's your option at this point, since you have completely fucked up the first part. | ||
| Yeah, and to the point where it would have made... | ||
| It would have actually made sense. | ||
| For him to have gotten to a summary judgment, if then all he has to argue in front of a jury is damages. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because his guilt is beyond question. | ||
| That would have been his best sort of strategy, and I think that there might have been some hope that that's what would have ended up happening, based on the argument that particularly Norm was making. | ||
| And no, it was rejected. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| People thought it was shit. | ||
| Because it's shit. | ||
| It was really bad. | ||
| And they did. | ||
| And not to cut them short. | ||
| Reynold and Pettis did a really bad job of lawyering on that argument as well. | ||
| But maybe it's because it's an argument that you never want to be seen in public making. | ||
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Oh, I don't want to be. | |
| Oh, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Because it's bad. | ||
| There were times where I saw Reynold look down at the sheet of paper in front of him, and I swear I saw him go like, ooh, I wouldn't say that. | ||
| And then he said it! | ||
| And then there's the norms closing argument. | ||
| You can tell that the people are just looking at him like, what the fuck is wrong with you? | ||
| And he said... | ||
| Like, oh, I know you're looking at me like, what's one lawyer at the bottom of an ocean? | ||
| A good start. | ||
| Like, great. | ||
| Try and deflect with a joke. | ||
| It's not working. | ||
| Do the lawyer's prayer. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So Alex goes on. | ||
| This was judicial tyranny against the American people. | ||
| So I laughed at the time when they were giving billions of dollars to people whose names I never talked about, never said, didn't even know who they were. | ||
| It's not billions of dollars. | ||
| Dramatically exaggerating a little bit. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| You can start to see the angle. | ||
| This isn't about Alex. | ||
| This is about you. | ||
| This is about you, the American people. | ||
| My consequences are you. | ||
| You should be afraid of me facing consequences. | ||
| Yeah, I hear that one. | ||
| We hear that one quite a bit now. | ||
| We do. | ||
| So that will become a theme here, as will just lying. | ||
| This was the weaponization of the judiciary. | ||
| So I declared bankruptcy because Back when I declared bankruptcy, I had a few million dollars in the bank. | ||
| Since then, I'm upside down, but I'm still on the air, and that's what matters. | ||
| So the federal judge in Texas basically nixed out most of the claims in Texas, but then said the stuff in Connecticut can go forward and it's not dischargeable, and said it's up to our appeals. | ||
| Now remember, when you see these headlines, Jones refuses to pay $1.5 billion to Sandy Hook. | ||
| I have a right, you have a right to a jury trial, but we didn't get that. | ||
| The judge found me guilty in Connecticut, Texas beforehand. | ||
| And I also have a right to appeal. | ||
| So our appeals will take years. | ||
| Those are ongoing. | ||
| But I declared bankruptcy because of all the litigation, we didn't have any money. | ||
| We're maxed out. | ||
| So Alex is going to say more about this later, but he's claiming that he's a million dollars in debt personally when he's saying he's upside down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I could kinda see possibly being true. | ||
| Like, if it is, the only reason it's true is because he won't stop taking vacations and he owes his shitty lawyers too much. | ||
| If he really wants to make some of this money back, he needs to sue his lawyers for malpractice. | ||
| That would improve some of the situation, but it also would involve really touchy discovery. | ||
| So don't hold your breath. | ||
| That's probably never gonna happen. | ||
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I wouldn't do that one. | |
| It was reported that Alex spent $75,000 in April and $93,000 in July. | ||
| So you'll have to forgive me if I don't really believe the... | ||
| upside down thing in any meaningful way. | ||
| Right. | ||
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He may literally be in the hole a million dollars, but he's living the lifestyle of someone who knows that he's still very rich. | |
| Still very rich. | ||
| there's a difference between being broke and being poor. | ||
| Right. | ||
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You know, and then, but now in like real money world where people have a lot of it, you know, you're supposed to be in debt a million dollars because then you don't spend real money on, On stuff, and then you don't have to pay taxes on that. | |
| So the debt is actually the way you avoid paying taxes for the real money that you keep and don't use. | ||
| And then you slowly pay off the debt. | ||
| This is why I don't like this modern world. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I don't care for it. | ||
| No, the smartest thing in the world for Alex to do is have a million dollars of debt. | ||
| One, because a million is so much, people are going to have to try and find ways to help him pay it back. | ||
| That's the nice part about owing that much money. | ||
| Yeah, that's interesting. | ||
| So Alex is welcome to appeal these cases, but it's not gonna matter. | ||
| He's gonna lose those, too, and in the process, waste some more time and probably add more sanctions to the pile of money he owes the families in court. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| He already lost a request for a new trial, and Norm did file an appeal back in, I believe, July, claiming that the default judgment was wrongly issued. | ||
| They will not win that appeal. | ||
| The court bent over backwards to give Alex opportunity after opportunity to cooperate, and his behavior and intentions were clear, and it's documented through the process. | ||
| Like, the chances that he was given. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And let's blue sky think in this thing. | ||
| Let's go ahead and open our minds up. | ||
| Even if Alex were to win an appeal and the default judgment gets thrown out, what do you think happens then? | ||
| Alex continues to stonewall and not cooperate with discovery requests. | ||
| He continues to send incompetent corporate representatives to testify, and he ends up getting defaulted again. | ||
| I suspect that any decent lawyer could argue this in an appeal hearing based on the well-documented pattern in Alex's actions. | ||
| Like, it would be very easy, but this person is willfully and maliciously subverting the process. | ||
| So, no, you never win an appeal. | ||
| I mean, it is literally like a lawyer has to go, Your Honor. | ||
| If we have to do another trial, I swear to you I'm just going to send an assassin. | ||
| I'm not doing another six fucking years of this shit. | ||
| That doesn't seem like a great appeal argument. | ||
| It's not a great appeal argument, Your Honor! | ||
| That's how bad this is! | ||
| I feel like a better argument is, come on. | ||
| I mean, that should be, but that should have been the argument that worked at some point over the past four years! | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| All Alex can do is maliciously stall, and he's run out of more options for ways to do that. | ||
| This appeal will fizzle, and then he's really got nothing stopping the families from collecting. | ||
| Of course, it's easy to say that he's only got time on his side and he can only run out the clock for so long, while one of the plaintiffs, Erica Lafferty, is struggling with cancer and can't afford chemotherapy drugs while Alex owes her millions of dollars. | ||
| For someone like her, it's not so trivial a matter that Alex can stall things and delay the inevitable payments that he's going to have to make. | ||
| But it's, you know, it's unfortunately easy for people in our situation to be like, well, you know, he's going to run out of options eventually. | ||
| But there's a clock for some people where there is a huge clock. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| I don't understand why it's not possible for the bankruptcy court to just be like, okay, but... | ||
| Before we do anything, just pay for Eric. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I imagine that there's some kind of situation where if you make that kind of carve-out, then it opens up the door to so many different people being able to, you know, I don't know. | ||
| But with life-threatening diseases? | ||
| Well, but I can imagine... | ||
| I will say this. | ||
| Every single person with a life-threatening disease can get the same treatment. | ||
| I imagine... | ||
| I'm not exactly sure what the specific situations would be, but I can imagine circumstances where that could be abused. | ||
| And I can see why a court wouldn't allow those kinds of carve-outs for, like, let's jump the process in order to, you know, get this money where it should be. | ||
| I could give less of a fuck about what courts... | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| Think would be abused. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| Because that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. | ||
| I just watched Alex abuse the courts, and now you're going to tell me that it's actually abuse for the court to carve out money for somebody who's... | ||
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Come on! | |
| I'm not saying that in this case it would be, but I'm saying that that being an option I could see in a lot of cases being abused. | ||
| I'm not saying this would be abuse. | ||
| I'm saying that this would be very appropriate, but I can understand why a court wouldn't do it. | ||
| I cannot. | ||
| And I refuse to accept that. | ||
| Well, that's where we're not going to probably find agreement. | ||
| Although, I mean, we do have agreement that it should. | ||
| Ethically, it should. | ||
| It seems hard to imagine a situation where it could be more cut and dry. | ||
| Yeah, so I mean, it's, you know, it's... | ||
| Kind of, you know, that's the balancing of the, like, well, there's a reality why it matters that this doesn't go on forever. | ||
| But then there's also the side of it that is, he is running out of options. | ||
| And this will continue to, the walls will continue to close in to the point where this won't be something he's able to avoid forever. | ||
| And, you know. | ||
| That's the rub. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Again, I still do not believe any of the legal system is going to function. | ||
| But I hope, I hope, I hope. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So Alex has no money. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Except for all the money. | ||
| Yeah, I've heard that. | ||
| So this idea of... | ||
| We're going to take your money away doesn't exist because the money doesn't exist. | ||
| It's all political. | ||
| It's all a message to you that if you stand up against corruption, if you stand up against open borders and human smuggling and World War III and the pedophilia and the transgenderism, we're going to get you. | ||
| Their attack on me is a message to you to shut up and roll over and be bullied and be intimidated. | ||
| So, just a nice little reminder that trans people existing is included in that list of his great evils, so... | ||
| He's very accepting and very open-minded. | ||
| So there's plenty of people that have shows that have the same kind of bigoted content that Alex does and target the same vulnerable populations he does, and yet those people aren't being sued like Alex is. | ||
| And that's because this case isn't political. | ||
| It's the result of his actions in defaming the Sandy Hook families. | ||
| Alex absolutely understands that, but it's really hard to fundraise by saying, this is my fault, I made a huge mistake, and now I need you all to support me so I can avoid losing my status as a rich person because of it. | ||
| We talk about fear a lot, but this is an interesting vibe, because what Alex is doing is taking something bad for him and making the audience scared for themselves about it. | ||
| You, the listener, should fear for your safety when you see bad things happening to me. | ||
| That's an abusive fucking tone that Alex takes. | ||
| And also, Alex has way more money than that. | ||
| At very least, a recent filing showed personal assets of over $14 million. | ||
| And he's got tons of money in various trusts and fake companies all around free speech systems. | ||
| You can't operate a business of the size of Infowars with that many employees, that much infrastructure, that much overhead, the products. | ||
| Even if you're just private labeling other people's products and drop shipping, you still need to have tons of money coming in and moving through. | ||
| It's just not possible. | ||
| Simultaneously, you can't be someone like Alex who spends money the way he does, who owns the kind of property and luxury. | ||
| That he does without having a lot of money. | ||
| If you can spend $93,000 in a month, you aren't making $100,000 in a month. | ||
| You're making way more than that. | ||
| So I don't believe any of this shit. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| You just... | ||
| Just compare that with the fucking courage and resolve that it took for the families to get us to this point. | ||
| The amount of courage and resolve is something that I don't think we could really put into words to get us to this point over this length of time. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, on a fundamental level, you have a situation where someone has participated in Yep. | ||
| and you know that it will likely be worse. | ||
| It will be made worse by you standing up to this bully. | ||
| Choosing to do it anyway, choosing to do it even though as the process goes on you realize this is not going to go smoothly. | ||
| No. | ||
| Him stalling at every opportunity, offering to settle for ridiculous amounts. | ||
| Watching, I mean, just simply watching Alex be given every possible break, every possible benefit of the doubt, every possible way of coddling a... | ||
| A giant baby. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Contrasted with the amount of shit that is constantly piled upon to these people for no reason other than the fact that they survived a tragedy. | ||
| Yeah, it's gotta be tough. | ||
| And then you see the legal system go, well, well, well, well, you guys gotta wait. | ||
| We need to be nicer to Alex! | ||
| Well, that's, I mean, I think what you come to is that there is a difference between the emotion and the feelings of justice, and the, you know, that kind of thing, and the mechanical operation of justice. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And those things will always be at odds with each other. | ||
| Right, we've let it get out of control. | ||
| Because we gave the legal system to rich people. | ||
| That was our big mistake. | ||
| So Alex here, he's talking about how he predicted all of this. | ||
| He predicted that this was going to happen. | ||
| Of course he did. | ||
| But he didn't. | ||
| No. | ||
| He absolutely didn't. | ||
| No. | ||
| And then he makes a weird metaphor. | ||
| Track this metaphor. | ||
| See if you can help me understand it. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So my lawyers predicted, and I predicted, that the Texas case would get limited because it was so outrageous, and the Connecticut case would go forward. | ||
| But it doesn't matter because the money doesn't exist. | ||
| And I always have a right to be on air and communicate. | ||
| And because of their persecution, We are hotter than ever, more requested, more demanded on shows all over the place. | ||
| InfoWars is exploding. | ||
| So, Alex Jones, personally, is being crucified. | ||
| And they're coming after assets that don't exist. | ||
| I don't care about that. | ||
| I'm not into money. | ||
| I'm wearing like a 10-year-old shirt right now and some old blue jeans and some $20 shoes. | ||
| So, it's all like the Wizard of Oz with Toto. | ||
| The Wizard of Oz saying, I am the great and powerful Oz, but then Toto pulls the curtain back. | ||
| So, here's the bottom line. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| So, who's the great and powerful Oz in this? | ||
| I can't figure it out. | ||
| Who's Toto and who's Oz? | ||
| He says, if Oz is the court saying that Alex has a lot of money, and then Alex is Toto pulling the curtain back to reveal Oz, is that what it's supposed to be? | ||
| Right. | ||
| But what's being revealed? | ||
| In this metaphor, Alex needs to be Oz, saying that he's not rich, and then the globalists need to be Toto, except they pull the curtain back to reveal that Oz is telling the truth. | ||
| I would have picked a different metaphor. | ||
| Yeah, this is a bad one. | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
| I mean, there's just no way to make it work. | ||
| It really is a challenge. | ||
| Okay, so the judge, let's just, judge is Oz. | ||
| Baseline. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Okay, so how do we get to Alex being Toto and revealing something about the judge? | ||
| So here's the way it has to work. | ||
| The judge is Oz, and the judge is saying Alex is super rich. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Alex comes in as Toto, pulls back the curtain, and reveals that he's poor. | ||
| But how does that happen? | ||
| Right, but I mean... | ||
| So then I guess the great and powerful Oz... | ||
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Is holding a big bag of money that says Alex. | |
| Putting on like a show that is Alex with a big bag of money. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But I can't figure out a way to do it. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| No, I don't think this one's going to work. | ||
| I don't think that star is going to fit into that square, my friend. | ||
| So Alex also seems to not be dealing with the thrust of this ruling, which is that he can't discharge this debt through bankruptcy, which has been his entire plan for like six months at least. | ||
| He's been constantly telling the audience on air that the bankruptcy is going well, and that the court is looking into his finances, and they're saying, the money isn't there, it's all a fraud. | ||
| He's saying that all these people from the, all the people were made to work with him through the process. | ||
| Can't come up with the word. | ||
| Damn it. | ||
| The people who are working with the bankruptcy court that are like in his shit. | ||
| He's saying that they're looking through all the finances and they're like, you're right, Alex. | ||
| That's what he's been telling people. | ||
| He's been feeding them that line that the bankruptcy court is going to swoop in and undo all the damages. | ||
| And now it's clear that's not going to happen. | ||
| There's no correcting. | ||
| There's no him being like, there's no I was wrong. | ||
| Only me and my lawyers saw this coming. | ||
| If they saw this coming, then Alex has been lying to his audience constantly to keep them donating money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's basically what's happened. | ||
| It is fun whenever you have the ability to say things, but then people won't connect them to what they mean. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or things you said before. | ||
| I saw this coming. | ||
| Okay, if you did, that means you were lying. | ||
| Are you willing to take responsibility? | ||
| If you saw this coming, you have defrauded your audience. | ||
| You've taken so much of our money by saying other things. | ||
| On the premise that this reorganization is going to work out and everybody's finding out that everybody lied about you in the trial and all this. | ||
| But that's not the case. | ||
| That's not what's happening. | ||
| People can just hear him say that and go... | ||
| That's good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's a step ahead. | ||
| Well, it's because he is exploiting that emotional connection of my consequences are a threat to you. | ||
| And so because that emotional stake is there... | ||
| You're not paying attention to these things that he's saying and what they imply about his past actions or the lies that he's told to get to this point. | ||
| Also, when Alex was talking about how he's not into money and how he's wearing all these old clothes, there's a moment where it looks like he's trying to make sure he didn't accidentally wear one of his $20,000 watches. | ||
| Which is smart to take that off before you do the I'm not into money speech. | ||
| Very wise. | ||
| Always forget your bling at home whenever you're about to do the I'm broke! | ||
| I don't have any money! | ||
| So this next clip is where I thought there was a little bit of pettiness coming in. | ||
| Here's the bottom line. | ||
| The real victory here is the Connecticut lawyers and Senator Blumenthal, who runs this, their victory in cutting Texas out of this massive $1.5 billion verdict that doesn't matter because I don't have a million dollars. | ||
| I'm over a million dollars in the hole right now, personally. | ||
| I'm preparing to sell my car and all the rest of the stuff. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| What matters is the free speech. | ||
| And Christ said, if you're for me, the world will be against you. | ||
| You will be persecuted. | ||
| I expect this to happen. | ||
| It's happening to President Trump. | ||
| It's happening to you. | ||
| The inflation is destroying the American people. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| Which car are you going to sell? | ||
| Are you going to sell that tank? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What car are you going to sell to get a million dollars? | ||
| Maybe try selling one or two of those boats. | ||
| Yeah, or some of your properties. | ||
| Might be a good idea. | ||
| So this is a very interesting construction because Alex is trying to pit the Connecticut plaintiffs and the Texas plaintiffs against each other as if they're operating opposing camps vying for Alex's money. | ||
| Obviously, they'd all like to get a chunk of what's owed to them, but I know from interacting with both sides of the situation that they don't view it as a zero-sum game. | ||
| Like, it's just ridiculous. | ||
| Alex is only out for himself and sees the world in competitive binaries, so the only way that he can understand this case is in that context, and he thinks that they're competing forces. | ||
| Plus, this allows him to portray the plaintiffs as shitty, money-hungry people willing to turn on each other for a buck, which is far from reality. | ||
| Also, Alex needs to adjust his talking points, because he's relying on old ones. | ||
| This inflation thing was a COVID talking point, and it was definitely true in 2021 and 2022, which saw inflation rates of 7 and... | ||
| 6.5% respectively. | ||
| But that number is way down in 2023. | ||
| Particularly since April, we've seen major dips in inflation rates, and the most recent available data is for September at 3.7%, compared to 8.2% in September of last year. | ||
| These trends are going in the right direction, and though the numbers are higher than pre-pandemic numbers, it's headed back towards the previous normal. | ||
| Alex knows that it's a buzzword that he's built up in the audience's mind, so you can just hit that button and evoke all the feelings of the globalists trying to ruin you financially through it. | ||
| So that's the game. | ||
| Update your talking points! | ||
| Yeah, that one's rough. | ||
| I do recognize the base cunning of it. | ||
| The pitting the people against each other? | ||
| Yeah, obviously. | ||
| It makes sense. | ||
| You've got two different lawsuits. | ||
| You get two different outcomes from the judge. | ||
| So you figure, oh, maybe this will have some sort of function. | ||
| Boy, you picked the wrong folks to try and do that with. | ||
| I would assume so. | ||
| Granted, I don't know everybody or anything. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But I do know from everything I have experienced and everybody that I've talked to, there's a tremendous amount of solidarity between the plaintiffs in both cases and beyond. | ||
| And so I think that this reveals more about Alex than it does about anybody else. | ||
| Alex is so bad. | ||
| That a species known for divisiveness will band together to defeat them. | ||
| He hates it. | ||
| So, we're getting some Mark Twain quotes here, which is always fun. | ||
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What? | |
| He's from Missouri, right? | ||
| Mark Twain? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm from Missouri. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| You're going to see all the announcements that I'm done. | ||
| I'm over and we're defeated. | ||
| But Mark Twain said, rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated. | ||
| They kept saying he was dead all the time, and he didn't die for like 30 years. | ||
| So I want to quote Mark Twain again. | ||
| In the beginning, a patriot is a scarce man, hated, feared, and scorned. | ||
| But in the end, when his cause succeeds, the timid join him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. | ||
| I am so blessed to be in the crucible, so blessed to be under this attack. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What a blessing. | ||
| So if you listen to Alex enough, you start to realize that when he was young, he must have just spent some time memorizing a couple quotes, which he now just repeats constantly. | ||
| That Twain one about the Patriots, that's definitely one of his favorites, but it just kind of gets annoying how he shoehorns these quotes in all the time. | ||
| Like it's some mark of literacy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like having read a bunch. | ||
| People think that quotes are like a... | ||
| Measure of. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| So that first Twain quote is also not in context. | ||
| What happened there was that there were rumors circulating in 1918. | ||
| Oof. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| I wrote 1987. | ||
| That is not correct. | ||
| So close. | ||
| I think it was 1897. | ||
| Rumors of his death in 1987. | ||
| They were not exaggerated. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| No exaggeration whatsoever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that was 1897. | ||
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Yeah, that makes sense. | |
| There were rumors that he had died or he was very sick. | ||
| This was based on one of his cousins falling severely ill and then communications not being very advanced back in those days. | ||
| He was contacted by a journalist from the New York Journal to comment on the rumors of his death, and Twain explained the situation with his cousin and said, quote, The report of my illness grew out of his illness. | ||
| The report of my death was an exaggeration. | ||
| It's not quite as fun or dishy in its original context. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| What Alex has done is he's wrote a story about it in his head, about why Twain would say this. | ||
| Obviously, people have been constantly assuming he was dead, as opposed to it being the result of a specific misunderstanding. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's basically like he's using this in the context that villains use it in movies, as opposed to... | ||
| Yeah, that's where he's going from, as opposed to, like, actually Twain. | ||
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Yeah, and it's just... | |
| Or maybe some heroes in movies. | ||
| Why would you be... | ||
| Like, I don't understand it. | ||
| You're an adult. | ||
| You don't need to do this, like, eighth grade, like, oh, I'll just make up, uh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| People were constantly saying that Mark Twain was dead all the time. | ||
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Why? | |
| Why would you say that? | ||
| Well, because... | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Because Alex is the master of assuming things and making up stories in his head and then repeating them to his audience as established fact, which is a fancy way of saying a lion. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| It's just such a weird fabrication. | ||
| Well, you know, it's kind of the same impulse that would lead you when you're a kid to be like, my uncle works at Nintendo. | ||
| It's the same kind of instinct of needing to seem interesting and needing to know things. | ||
| It's just a childish impulse. | ||
| No, it's like that Mike Birbiglia story about the kid growing up who would just lie about real weird things that weren't impressive to other kids. | ||
| Yeah, it's the state treasurer. | ||
| And you're like, what? | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| And also, why? | ||
| What? | ||
| So, with that second quotation, the one about the Patriots, that's from a notebook. | ||
| That Mark Twain had. | ||
| It's in a section called Maxims in the Rough. | ||
| Essentially, this was a place where he was trying to work out some pithy sayings that he was going to use to float on the public. | ||
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I love that. | |
| Just before this quote, Mark Twain had written, quote, Pops is down in the sty. | ||
| You'll know him from the hogs because he's got his hat on. | ||
| That one didn't stick. | ||
| Earlier in the section, he has this series of wordings for a potential new zinger. | ||
| Quote, none but the dead have free speech. | ||
| None but the dead are permitted to speak the truth. | ||
| In America, as elsewhere, free speech is confined to the dead. | ||
| This is a comedian's notebook, man. | ||
| He was working out bits, trying to move words around and see if he can come up with something that he wants to bring to the stage. | ||
| The fact that that Patriot quote is in this section, it's the only place it appears in Twain's published catalog, it kind of makes you think that it wasn't fully cooked. | ||
| Maybe he wasn't done with that one yet. | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| Also, this notebook is wild. | ||
| It's just stray thoughts that Mark Twain had, and some of them are kind of a bummer, like this one. | ||
| Quote, we are all inconsistent. | ||
| We are offended and resented when people do not respect us, and yet no man, deep down in the privacy of his heart, has any considerable respect for himself. | ||
| Ooh, deep. | ||
| Mark. | ||
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Mark. | |
| Hey, listen, listen, I wouldn't want... | ||
| When I die, believe me, all of my notebooks will be burned. | ||
| I don't want any of that shit left alive. | ||
| I imagine it'll be bleaker than that. | ||
| It could be pretty bleak. | ||
| There's no turn of phrase or interesting cleverness to that. | ||
| It's an observation. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But you wouldn't hear that and be like, classic Twain. | ||
| Yeah, that's fair. | ||
| And not for nothing, also, Mark Twain really doesn't like the idea of patriotism much. | ||
| Elsewhere in the notebook he says this, quote, talking of patriotism, what humbug it is. | ||
| It's a word which always commemorates a robbery. | ||
| There isn't a foot of land in the world which doesn't represent the ousting and re-ousting of a long line. | ||
| of successive, quote, owners who each in turn as patriots with proud swelling hearts defended against the next gang of robbers who come in to steal it and did and become the selling, become the swelling hearted patriots in their turn. | ||
| There's another point where he says, quote, I don't know. | ||
| I guess what I'm saying is that Twain is a guy who's always boiled down to these pithy statements, but reality is often more complex than can be captured in an aphorism. | ||
| The important thing to remember is that Alex absolutely never read this notebook of Twain's and only knows this quote from some right-wing ass meme he saw or some white nationalist-leaning publication that his dad got in the mail, which used Twain's quote to justify why their ranks are so small. | ||
| Why aren't there as many racists as we think there should be? | ||
| Because a patriot is a scarce man. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| It really is a fucking tragedy for Samuel Clemens. | ||
| Unused words, unpublished on purpose, are then given to a fucking monster and used as a cudgel to lie and hurt people. | ||
| Something that Mark Twain, famously, not a fan of. | ||
| Also, if Mark Twain says, hey... | ||
| In tough times, there aren't many patriots, but then when it's easier to be a patriot, there are more people on that side. | ||
| Yeah, that's not a positive thing he's saying. | ||
| Well, but also, well, it's not a positive thing about generally the population. | ||
| But then also, why do we believe it's true? | ||
| He just said it. | ||
| That doesn't mean it's true. | ||
| No, if you say some smart things, then a ton of smart things have to be true. | ||
| Also, if you look at it in the context of the parts that come around that, it's clearly more a condemnation of the public. | ||
| Everyone's a coward. | ||
| He hates that. | ||
| He's rewriting history as written by the victors. | ||
| That's what he's doing with that quote. | ||
| Not like, oh, he's actually a good guy from the start, and then after... | ||
| After murdering a bunch of people, everybody's like, wow, he is a good guy. | ||
| I think it's debatable, but that's probably just based on how it's phrased in the text. | ||
| But I think you could assume that there might be an instance that he's describing where someone is a good person from the start, and he's hated and scorned for it, but as people come to agree with his conclusion, their cowardice goes away. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And that is kind of close to what Alex is saying, but... | ||
| It's less about the person who's a patriot and more about condemning the cowards. | ||
| But either way, I don't know. | ||
| I just wanted to look into something and basically it turned out Mark Twain's notebook was it. | ||
| That works out. | ||
| So Alex just needs money. | ||
| That's really what it comes down to. | ||
| And so to me, as long as their mind control, as long as their Jedi mind trick doesn't work on me, I continue and I win. | ||
| It's not working on me. | ||
| Don't let it work on you. | ||
| Your support of Infowars.com, your support of Bandai Video, your buying of the products, your spreading the word, your sharing the links is scaring the establishment to its core. | ||
| Now, it gets into complex issues, but free speech is separate from me. | ||
| Free speech is still on air, operating going forward. | ||
| And if they shut that down... | ||
| We got a thousand new operations ready. | ||
| You got mug gloves. | ||
| But it looks like they won't be able to. | ||
| But regardless, Alex Jones' persecution is a symbol of our strength. | ||
| It's a symbol of our will. | ||
| It is an honor as a warrior for humanity to stand for the people and to not back down. | ||
| I knew this was coming. | ||
| I'm surprised they haven't already killed me. | ||
| So I'm here thanking you for your support. | ||
| So what you can do now is spread the word about the broadcast. | ||
| When they demonize me and lie about me, stand up for me, because they see me as an archetype of you, as the populist man standing up for freedom. | ||
| Yeah, so I mean, it is really just the, like, what you boiled down this entire video to is essentially my consequences are a threat to you. | ||
| And if he can instill that into the audience's mind, which I think he's done a fairly good job of doing over the years, then no bad news or negative thing about him really affects the true audience believer's mind. | ||
| They're always going to see whatever terrible thing comes out about Alex as an attack on them. | ||
| And that's kind of sad. | ||
| In order for this to change, Alex has to go away. | ||
| And they have to realize they don't care about Alex and all of the stuff, you know, like... | ||
| Or eventually you kind of hope that they will, like, realize that nothing happens. | ||
| Yeah, exactly! | ||
| Even if Alex is still there, they have, like, sort of a watershed moment where they open their eyes and see, like, wait a second. | ||
| Yeah, it's gonna be fine. | ||
| This keeps going on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I want... | ||
| What I want is the... | ||
| I want Alex to be gone for long enough for them to stop caring, and then for Alex to ask and them to go, oh, we don't care about you anymore, and that's what I want. | ||
| We realize that you were manipulating us by pretending that you could fill an emotional need that we have for safety and security, and it turns out you can't, and we resent you for it. | ||
| That would be nice. | ||
| That would be an ideal situation. | ||
| I would accept that, yeah. | ||
| And then the other thing, too, that you have to, you know, that's obviously entangled with this very heavily, is the... | ||
| Notion that Alex has of consequences equaling virtue that he's instilled in the audience where all these negative things are happening to me because I'm so right and so dangerous to the globalists. | ||
| And as long as those two ideas, those pillars are in people's minds, it's very difficult for any negative information about him to stick. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you've got armor that is... | ||
| I mean, it's main character armor level. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| Get this, though. | ||
| It's main character armor in the audience's life. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like... | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| You can't kill him. | ||
| You are the main character of the audience's life. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That sucks. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| They give you more than they are. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Alex, he gets back to his note of the cases being opposed to each other. | ||
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Right. | |
| In this next clip. | ||
| Show. | ||
| This victory is Connecticut swooping in and getting the billion-plus dollars from Texas, which doesn't exist. | ||
| It's like they're fighting over a lottery ticket that's six months old and was a bad number. | ||
| So I don't like to laugh at these people, but I mean, I don't know how you don't. | ||
| I am upside-down a million dollars, personally. | ||
| I've never been happier. | ||
| Thank you so much for your support. | ||
| Thank you so much for your word of mouth. | ||
| And don't let these wizards, these alchemists, manipulate your mind. | ||
| I think he's talking about literal wizards. | ||
| Yeah, I believe he is talking about... | ||
| People who are capable of using... | ||
| Don't let Gandalf turn you against me. | ||
| Magical powers. | ||
| Superhuman. | ||
| Don't let Merlin the magician turn you against me. | ||
| I don't think he's talking about the big names. | ||
| I think he's talking about the low-level magicians, you know? | ||
| Somebody who's doing regular... | ||
| Don't let Yuri Geller turn you against me. | ||
| Listen, don't let Yuri Geller turn you against me. | ||
| I'm going to second that one. | ||
| Don't let the guy on the corner doing close-up magic turn you against me. | ||
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I'm running out of magicians. | |
| So, yeah, this notion is very bizarre, and again, it seems like Alex had a couple of points in his mind of like, alright, these are the things that I'm gonna do in order to deflect from this news. | ||
| There's going to be the turning the cases against each other in the audience's mind out of nowhere. | ||
| For no reason. | ||
| And then the other is just the standard, my consequences are a threat to you. | ||
| And I think that that is his response, and I think it's probably a good response for the audience. | ||
| Like, I think it's effective for them. | ||
| It's all bullshit, but you can see that it could land. | ||
| I mean, you just can't say, like, wow, this one's the one that did it. | ||
| This one's the very bad news. | ||
| Yeah, it is like you have to present something, anything, other than... | ||
| This now is official. | ||
| I now have a billion dollars that I can't discharge through bankruptcy. | ||
| I am now wearing the giant cone of shame. | ||
| My life will never be the same from a financial perspective. | ||
| Until I die. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Or somehow pay off a billion dollars. | ||
| Or somehow pay off a billion dollars. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I guess you can understand why he would do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the other thing, too, that I find really interesting is this, like, the... | ||
| Connecticut case is sucking away the Texas one. | ||
| It's very strange because of scale. | ||
| You know, the Connecticut one's like a billion dollars. | ||
| And the Texas one was only 49 million. | ||
| I think this one actually is personal. | ||
| I think it's just he doesn't like that Connecticut gets more money than Texas as a state issue. | ||
| He's not talking about... | ||
| Any of the actuality, any of the details of this particular situation. | ||
| There's a hundred petty reasons. | ||
| It is 100% Texas is a better state than Connecticut. | ||
| I'd rather give all my money to the Texas plaintiffs. | ||
| I swear to you. | ||
| Because at the very least, they're in Texas. | ||
| But they don't live in Texas. | ||
| No, he doesn't know that. | ||
| He thinks they do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because he doesn't think about these people. | ||
| I guess Mark lives in Texas. | ||
| The lawyers do. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| So anyway, Alex's side is winning. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| The globalists are afraid because they're winning. | ||
| The globalists are losing. | ||
| Populists are being elected everywhere. | ||
| And they're indicting them, whether it's Bolsonaro in Brazil or whether it's the leader 20 points ahead as a great patriot in Argentina. | ||
| We're getting people elected in Italy and Sweden and the provinces in Canada. | ||
| Everywhere! | ||
| There's too many examples to list them all. | ||
| We are winning. | ||
| There's too many examples to list them all. | ||
| That's why I struggled to come up with a few. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Bolsonaro didn't win. | ||
| So that's fine. | ||
| And, you know, if he's being prosecuted, it's for crimes he committed. | ||
| He did. | ||
| Also, Alex has lately been warming up to this Argentinian candidate, Javier Malay, because he's heard people refer to him as Argentina's Trump. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Alex knows literally nothing about this guy, but because that's his branding, Alex is fully supporting him. | ||
| That said, if Alex did learn anything about him, including even just knowing his name, he would support this guy. | ||
| Malay is a fucking lunatic who's proposing more or less to demolish the Argentinian government from within. | ||
| One of the things he's proposing is doing a massive overhaul of the monetary system, and in his campaign, he's really been disparaging the peso, going so far as to call it excrement, and suggesting full dollarization, or adopting the US dollar as the illegal tender currency in the country. | ||
| The fact that he's a major political figure now, and he won the primary, led to a collapse in the value of the peso, along with looting and hoarding of goods. | ||
| The peso was at about $600, equaling $1 before the primary, which jumped to over $1,000 after. | ||
| That's why earlier this month, a prosecutor filed a case against Malay, accusing him of, quote, deliberately causing a drop in the Argentine currency. | ||
| There's no indication of whether or not a judge will sign off on the case and it may ultimately go nowhere. | ||
| You could say that his entire campaign is based on exploiting the fears that people have around the economy, so acting in ways that are designed to worsen the economy could be a very manipulative tactic meant to bolster your campaign. | ||
| However, just saying that this could be a possible motivation someone has doesn't prove that that's what they actually did or meant to do. | ||
| I suspect that this case that's filed against Millay will not move forward, unless there's some pretty damning evidence somewhere that hasn't been presented. | ||
| I don't know about. | ||
| But he's just a shitty right-wing-ass populist candidate who's Trumpian in nature. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I heard he would also allow you to sell your organs. | ||
| Yeah, I did see that too. | ||
| Ah, now we're talking. | ||
| But it's like consensual organ sales. | ||
| See, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| I like a good organ sale. | ||
| So the situation in Argentina is bad. | ||
| And you hear a lot of people who express the sentiment that voting for Malay is a... | ||
| Chaotic move, but they feel they're already in total chaos. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Just blow it up. | ||
| Things are already bad, so how much worse can this guy make it? | ||
| Seems to be a prevailing attitude. | ||
| We're recording this episode on the 22nd, which is the day of the Argentine election, so I'm not sure as we speak what the result is, but no matter what, you can expect that Millet will contest the results. | ||
| He's already been making the standard Trump-style claims of voter fraud during the primary, even though he won, laying the groundwork for a fraud claim that he can make if he loses the general. | ||
| Italy's Prime Minister, Giorgia Maloney, joined a neo-fascist Italian social movement when she was 15 and was the national leader of the student wing of the rebranded party, the National Alliance, which called itself, quote, post-fascist. | ||
| This party was part of Berlusconi's coalition government, and this rose her to profile in politics to a high level where she then started her own party in 2012, the Brothers of Italy, which used iconography that was meant to be reminiscent of those fascist parties of the past. | ||
| You may say that Maloney herself isn't necessarily a fascist, but her party has a lot of members who are sympathetic to that ideology, and her actions, like her choice of logo, they're meant to appeal to this faction in society. | ||
| She uses the language of the extreme right wing, stuff like demonizing immigrants or using pro-family to mean anti-LGBTQ, to appeal to a broader base, but she is the head of a party that welcomes within its ranks folks who would prefer to revert to fascist rule. | ||
| She's a very troubling figure, and Alex knows nothing about her, including her name. | ||
| The only thing he knows is that people lump her in with Trump and Bolsonaro, so that means she's cool in his book. | ||
| You remember all the times that Alex says that he just does the opposite of what he thinks the globalist wants? | ||
| He means that literally. | ||
| It's very reflexive. | ||
| So in Sweden, Alex doesn't really know what he's talking about, but essentially, an extreme right-wing party called Sweden Democrats Party, they got over 20% of the vote in the last election, which shifted the makeup of the government and led to the resignation of the former coalition and the formation of a right-leaning government. | ||
| The issue is that Sweden Democrats is a party that grew out of post-World War II Nazis wanting to assert power. | ||
| In the years after the war, groups like Nordic Realm Party and Keep Sweden Swedish formed and receded. | ||
| However, I'll read to you here from an article in the Boston Review. | ||
| Quote, in 1988, leading figures from these groups came together to form the Sweden Democrats. | ||
| During the party's most radical years in the 1990s, it was led by a convicted former Nazi activist, Anders Klarsholm, who was infamous for skinhead street violence. | ||
| Just ahead of the recent election, the party published a white paper establishing that one of its founders had been a Vaffen-SS volunteer during World War II. | ||
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| That's what Alex considers to be his side winning. | ||
| Because that's his side. | ||
| That's what he wants in the US. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As far as Canadian provinces go, I have no idea what he's talking about. | ||
| This month, there was just an election in Manitoba, but a center-left party won that. | ||
| In May, there were elections in Alberta where the Conservative Party retained control of the Legislative Assembly, but also lost 11 seats compared to the left-leaning party that gained 15. In April, there was an election in Prince Edward Island, but the status quo remained mostly the same with the center-right party retaining the majority. | ||
| Alex can't be talking about Ontario's 2022 election because Doug Ford won that, and I know that Alex hates him. | ||
| Maybe he's talking about Quebec, where the coalition Avenir Quebec, which is a nationalist center-right party, retained their majority, but they also won that majority in 2018 before this. | ||
| I don't know what he's talking about. | ||
| I think Alex might like Doug Ford again. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| I think Ford has done some... | ||
| I think I remember recently in the past six months to a year, he's done some right-wing Trump shit type thing. | ||
| But he was re-elected in 2022. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it's not like this is a new thing. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Their side's starting to win. | ||
| I'm telling you, I think it's just like... | ||
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It's possible. | |
| I think it is... | ||
| The way that I'm describing it now is the reason that I think I'm right. | ||
| It's because I am remembering it the way that I would... | ||
| That I think Alex would, which is like... | ||
| I'm pretty sure Doug Ford did some right-wing Trump shit. | ||
| We'll put him in the list today. | ||
| I can see that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I know that I've heard him speak disparagingly of Ford in the past, but I could see the alliances shifting. | ||
| I mean, the Queen was a good person for a while. | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| We've got anybody's fair game at this point. | ||
| You can flip Doug Ford for sure. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But yeah, if that's the case, one of the only things in the sort of provincial elections that I could see as being like, What he's talking about? | ||
| Yeah, it's the only thing I can think of. | ||
| But then beyond that, you have the rising in power of a party in Sweden that grew out of neo-Nazi skinhead street violence. | ||
| You have Giorgia Maloney in Italy who has a party. | ||
| Nazi. | ||
| Well, at least fascist nostalgia is one of the ways that I've seen people describe it. | ||
| Do you mean people who aligned with the Nazis? | ||
| And then a very, very libertarian-ass organ-selling Trump guy in Argentina. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So these are the wins that Alex is having, and that's upsetting. | ||
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| You know, when you go to a party and you turn and you look around at all the people around you, that should tell you who is at that party. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And who you are. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If the Sweden Democrats... | ||
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Wow. | |
| A bunch of George Maloney's followers, this weirdo from Argentina. | ||
| I mean, it is like the Axis powers! | ||
| Trying to recreate the Axis powers! | ||
| Scary. | ||
| So, we have one last clip here. | ||
| Japan is also trying to create a more homogeneity, and that's not true. | ||
| But Alex hasn't said anything. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| And also, that's not true. | ||
| Japan is going out of their way now to try and get more people in. | ||
| That's why Alex is against them. | ||
| That's also because they don't have enough children. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Losing people. | ||
| It's an island. | ||
| It is an island. | ||
| So, we have one last clip here, and I feel like this is Alex. | ||
| Like, I really feel some purity here on his part. | ||
| Like, this is some pure Alex. | ||
| The globalists are losing, and there's men that asked for the fight, and gotten the fight. | ||
| When the enemy hits us, we gotta expect that. | ||
| We stood up, we asked to take our legs, and we're getting what we asked for. | ||
| So I'm so happy right now. | ||
| I'm so invigorated right now to be standing with you. | ||
| That's the truth. | ||
| You'll find the reality of what's going on at infoawards.com forward slash show and all the interviews I do and everything else we do. | ||
| But regardless of the matter, I'm standing before God right now. | ||
| God's watching. | ||
| And what God wants is me to put in 110% and I fall like the Alamo. | ||
| It's an example to everybody else to win the larger war. | ||
| And if I got to fall like Colonel Travis. | ||
| And my family, and my history in Texas, I'm reliving that again. | ||
| And if that's the case, and I'm supposed to be an example of people, this is an honor. | ||
| But regardless, I'm going to fight all the way as hard as I can to the end. | ||
| And I appreciate you all. | ||
| God bless, and good luck. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| Does he believe that he is the reincarnated Colonel Travis? | ||
| Well, I don't know, probably. | ||
| But I do know... | ||
| And we talked about this hundreds of episodes ago. | ||
| Alex is obsessed with seeing himself as Colonel Travis. | ||
| And that, I think, is such a pure aspect of him, like this obsession with his own noble destruction or something. | ||
| And it's like, if you want to be Colonel Travis, just fucking stop stalling your feet. | ||
| Be Colonel Travis already. | ||
| I mean, he is. | ||
| Well, in the sense that he's a loser, liar, drunk. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| It's fascinating insofar as he thinks he's mythologically following the mythological Colonel Travis when in reality he's following the real Colonel Travis. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It is when... | ||
| Non-fiction and fiction collide. | ||
| The line... | ||
| I feel like if we are holding Alex next to the Alamo, we can break through into a fantasy world that becomes real because the barrier between false and real is gone. | ||
| You know what's interesting here? | ||
| What? | ||
| Your argument, maybe not the magical wall breaking... | ||
| Maybe not that part? | ||
| No. | ||
| But the part where he thinks he's following the mythological version, but he is actually following the real person who is a loser and a weirdo. | ||
| You now are making an argument that makes me think that he is the reincarnation of Colonel Travis. | ||
| That's what I'm saying! | ||
| He is destined to just follow the real path while insisting that there's some higher-minded, noble battle that he's involved in. | ||
| The thing is, it's not... | ||
| Just the being a lying loser drunk. | ||
| There's a lot of it. | ||
| There's a lot of other things. | ||
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Totally. | |
| I'm agreeing with you. | ||
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There's a lot of stuff. | |
| But it's also the delusional aspect that is tied together with that so inexplicably. | ||
| It's very, very fascinating. | ||
| And then the other part of this is the perfect purity, Alex. | ||
| It all just comes down to go to the website, donate, give me money. | ||
| That's all this is. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Now, I do wonder... | ||
| I was texting you a little bit about this when the announcement happened of the judgment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I see very little reason for Alex to keep free speech systems around much longer. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That is not going to be something that is in his best interest because it is subject to this bankruptcy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If he can start a new company... | ||
| That would be the thing to do. | ||
| And then just let free speech systems be taken. | ||
| Right. | ||
| At the very least, the company itself is no longer... | ||
| There's no reason for him to bring money into it that is just going to be churned through this bankruptcy system when, in theory, he could start another business and have it not be. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He could start a new thing that he could use as his piggy bank. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The only thing is, though, is like... | ||
| Oh, he's also personally bankrupt. | ||
| What is... | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| But, I mean, the reason that you would start a new thing is because, sure, they can garnish... | ||
| Start it in your mom's name. | ||
| They can garnish your wages and all of that stuff, but they can't actually... | ||
| Like, the business itself isn't bankrupt. | ||
| In this case, Alex and FSS are both bankrupt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I don't see any way that Alex can form a media company that isn't just FSS. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But you could start a new one. | ||
| Can you do that? | ||
| I feel like you can't just start the... | ||
| You can't have a company, shudder it, and then do the same company. | ||
| But I'm wrong! | ||
| You can! | ||
| Everybody evil has done that! | ||
| I think you can, but maybe you can't use the assets of free speech systems to do it. | ||
| So Alex would be kind of screwed on that front. | ||
| You gotta start fresh, yeah. | ||
| Because I don't think that he could develop the infrastructure, all of that stuff, again. | ||
| I mean, he didn't... | ||
| In the first place, you can just ask his dad to do it. | ||
| Well, that might be fair way back. | ||
| But in terms of the process of... | ||
| I was being petty, and I enjoyed it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I enjoyed it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Petty. | ||
| Fucking Tom Petty over here. | ||
| So anyway, yeah, the load of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just a load of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's, like I said, I think that the... | ||
| Options that he has for stalling are closing around him. | ||
| And no matter what, the stalling is now a situation where once all the options are exhausted, you can't get rid of this debt. | ||
| And that has got to be a really tough pill to swallow. | ||
| Because you hope that you can get away from it. | ||
| You hope you can, aha, almost had you! | ||
| But it not being dischargeable means... | ||
| You're not getting away from it. | ||
| Well, and the problem there is if you're a scammer and a swindler, which Alex is, now you're not doing one scam. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're not doing one swindle. | ||
| You have to find a way to scam and swindle the government and the bankruptcy court out of every single dollar. | ||
| Like, every paycheck you get, you gotta find a way to get it into cash before the government can see it, you know? | ||
| It's exhausting. | ||
| That's a new swindle every time! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Brutal. | ||
| And another thing, too, if you're a scammer and a swindler, one of the things that is most important is your freedom of movement. | ||
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Oh, yeah! | |
| You wanna be able to get out of town if you need to. | ||
| You gotta be able to get out of town. | ||
| And when you have this debt, that is basically a ball and... | ||
| It's never going to go. | ||
| It limits your movement. | ||
| It limits your ability to run a new scam, run various other scams. | ||
| One of the reasons that Alex has been able to set up the situation that he has with free speech systems and all these shell companies and trusts and stuff is because no one was paying attention. | ||
| No one was looking. | ||
| Now he tries to do this kind of stuff. | ||
| He's never going to be able to get away with this. | ||
| No, he's got to leave the country, I think. | ||
| Oh, he could go to Argentina! | ||
| It's got to be the ultimate irony of his life is to be exiled from... | ||
| The patriot expatriating? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He has to be exiled from the country he professes to love so much, never to return. | ||
| If Trump loses in 2024, there's a very convenient narrative. | ||
| Way for him to do that, though. | ||
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Sure. | |
| You know, it'd be like, well, look, the globalists have taken over too much control. | ||
| There's no hope of anything in the United States. | ||
| You gotta get out. | ||
| I formed a redoubt somewhere. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Also, I'm not gonna tell anybody, and I'm not leaving through customs. | ||
| I use a chopper. | ||
| I've got a helicopter. | ||
| So, we'll be back with another episode. | ||
| But, you know... | ||
| It might involve Nick Fuentes, and I hope it doesn't. | ||
| But, until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do! | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com! | ||
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight! | ||
| Yep, we're also gonna be back. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| Somebody wasn't thinking. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Until then, until I think, we'll be back. | ||
| I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| Look, look, there was a little bit of a fumble there. | ||
| No, no, no, you're gold. | ||
| I'll be the first to admit that was not smooth. | ||
| No one's judging you. | ||
| I'm DZXClark. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo! | ||
| And now here comes the sex robot. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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