In this installment, Dan and Jordan experience a very weird day for Alex. He seems pretty drunk, spends a fair amount of time complaining about an Economist article he didn't read, then does an intensely anti-LGBTQ interview with Judge Joe Brown.
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| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| knowledge fight. | ||
| I need money. | ||
| I need money. | ||
| Hello, Alex. | ||
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I'm a first-time caller. | |
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
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Dan. | |
| Jordan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| Why don't you go first? | ||
| Dan, I mean, this is going to come out. | ||
| And we're going to be in the sky. | ||
| No. | ||
| Tomorrow, after this comes out. | ||
| This is our last episode that will come out before we leave for the UK. | ||
| Actually, how about I'm going to put this. | ||
| The next time I see you, when I walk out that door, we will be getting on a plane together. | ||
| Unless I play an elaborate prank on you on Monday, there is a chance that you'll see me, or maybe you won't see me, and I'll see you from the bushes while you get 100 pizzas delivered to your apartment. | ||
| There needs to be... | ||
| I want some sort of situation where I go to the airport and I see you in one of the planes, like, waving at me. | ||
| Left early, buddy! | ||
| And then that's the way to go. | ||
| Well, yeah, you gotta turn this into a rat race situation. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| 100%. | ||
| I want Whoopi and John Lovitz hot on our tails. | ||
| Cannonball run, but it's just airplanes. | ||
| And there's no way to make up time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Airplane, except for it's just trains. | ||
| You just have to catch the right airstream. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, that is surreal. | ||
| I mean, it is. | ||
| We talked about it the last time we had an episode together that it creeps up. | ||
| But it creeped up even more that this weekend is like, well... | ||
| Get your shit in order. | ||
| You know, find somebody to come and take care of Selene. | ||
| And, you know, like all this, like these checklists of the last things that need to happen. | ||
| I have something that is a secret. | ||
| But is something that... | ||
| It may or may not be. | ||
| I would like to bring this thing along to the UK shows. | ||
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Right. | |
| But it may or may not be delivered tomorrow. | ||
| Or it might be on Tuesday. | ||
| It might be a secret forever. | ||
| Yeah, if it comes on Tuesday, then I can't... | ||
| Then we're hosed. | ||
| Yeah, it's down to the wire on a lot of stuff. | ||
| It really is how we do things, isn't it? | ||
| Oh, well. | ||
| But, I mean, that's the nature of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But so the bright spot is we both have lived this long, which is great. | ||
| And then that we're going to get to do this. | ||
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And we're going to go. | |
| We're going to see these people. | ||
| We're going to have a good time. | ||
| We're going to perform. | ||
| We're going to probably drink. | ||
| At a bar in, you know, pubs? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah, we're going to do all the fun stuff. | ||
| You're going to get your ass kicked by Scottish people? | ||
| I will be destroyed by the entirety of a kingdom. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Robert the Bruce is coming for me, I heard. | ||
| A British asshole? | ||
| So, yeah, I just, I think there's also like... | ||
| work in the lead up to this on both our parts really. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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But like, uh, it is kind of exciting for the part where it's fun. | |
| to come. | ||
| And then it also can be a little bit of a test of concept to see if like, is this worth it? | ||
| Are we really doing this? | ||
| Well, like, I want to go other places. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, it has been a lot of work. | ||
| And if it's only hella fun as opposed to hella, hella fun, then I don't know. | ||
| I don't know if we can rationalize it. | ||
| This is my way of threatening the people of the UK. | ||
| I was going to say, is what you're saying. | ||
| We're putting it all, every US person who wants us to come to your town, if we don't, it's the UK's fault because they weren't nice enough to us. | ||
| Yeah, it's emotional blackmail. | ||
| That's what we're doing. | ||
| Anyways, what's your bright spot, buddy? | ||
| My bright spot is, I guess, my vape guy. | ||
| I know you've stopped vaping. | ||
| I have! | ||
| But I have a guy. | ||
| I mean, it's just the person who works at the local vape shop. | ||
| And, like, okay, so the guy who used to work there, I thought I liked him. | ||
| Because he was good. | ||
| He's fine. | ||
| Yeah, I like that guy. | ||
| Turns out I didn't like him at all. | ||
| Oh, he was shit. | ||
| No, he's great. | ||
| But I didn't know the customer service that this new guy could bring. | ||
| Oh, you didn't know that there was an option. | ||
| There was a new level. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| He's funny. | ||
| He has recommendations. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Nice guy. | ||
| Big fan. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I have noticed that you've been more one-offs lately. | ||
| This is a Hugo DiMango. | ||
| I love a DiMango. | ||
| You love a DiMango. | ||
| It's juice of the... | ||
| I don't know what DiMango is. | ||
| DiMango? | ||
| What? | ||
| DiMango? | ||
| Or is it Da Mango? | ||
| What? | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| This is Yugo DiMango. | ||
| That's like juice of the mango. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And when I say I love a DiMango, that is a reference to a Saturday Night Live bit. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Starring Chris Guterra. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Where he played mango. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Everybody loves the mango. | ||
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How dare you bring the 90s into this house? | |
| Did you just remember Mango? | ||
| I just remembered Mango. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I had lived my entire life post-Mango, having forgotten Mango, and now you have brought Mango back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're a real Mango Ste... | ||
| No, that didn't work. | ||
| No. | ||
| Nice try, though. | ||
| Yeah, I tried. | ||
| Mango Stan, I think I was going to try, but that still doesn't work. | ||
| That kind of works. | ||
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Eh. | |
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| Like I said, last one before we take off. | ||
| But we will be having episodes coming out along the way. | ||
| We have banked episodes for the time that we're away, so there shouldn't be any real disruption of services. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I bet you thought, you know, oh, well, this show, they're going to the UK for a couple of weeks. | ||
| Like most people, there's no way that they'll just do the exact same regular schedule. | ||
| Wrong. | ||
| A thousand episodes will be released while we're gone. | ||
| No one thought that. | ||
| No one thought that we wouldn't have episodes out based on... | ||
| On our track record, I suspect. | ||
| But unfortunately, we won't have Wednesday episodes. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| That, I feel like I've dropped the ball on. | ||
| We will only have Monday and Friday episodes. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Yeah, we have a couple of interviews and stuff, and there's some fun stuff. | ||
| So you'll have us in your ears despite that. | ||
| And then when we come back, God willing, channeling Alex by saying God willing. | ||
| The recordings of the live shows will go well. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And audio-wise, we'll be able to release those once we get back. | ||
| So, very exciting little stretch, but today we have to check in with the present day. | ||
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Boo! | |
| We have to see what's going on before we take off. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| And so we're going to be talking about September 14th, 2023. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| That is Thursday. | ||
| I think Alex is drunk. | ||
| Okay! | ||
| Alright! | ||
| He's something. | ||
| Oh, that's not good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's creepy. | ||
| It's a different register of, I think he's drunk, because there is a point in the episode where he just pulls out a paper cup. | ||
| Takes a swig from it and then stares at it contemplatively. | ||
| Like a drunk at a bar stares at their shot glass at like three in the morning. | ||
| He does the same thing with this paper cup. | ||
| Yeah, he's like literally in his mind you see the words typing, why did she leave me? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Gotcha. | ||
| And it has a big energy of someone forgot to... | ||
| Turn the camera to something else. | ||
| Like, this happens all the time, and Alex thinks that they're showing something else on the screen. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But it's not like a fun, hatchet-throwing energy, and it's not like a, we're all gonna die energy. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's a different Alex energy. | ||
| It's a staring into the middle distance energy. | ||
| And being like... | ||
| I love you all. | ||
| I'm very different. | ||
| Anyway, we'll get down to business on this. | ||
| But first, Jordan, let's say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Ooh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, comfortable Josh. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| You know who that's not? | ||
| The guy from the Real World Road Rose Challenge. | ||
| He's definitely not. | ||
| Josh is never comfortable. | ||
| He's not a comfortable man. | ||
| No. | ||
| Nuh-uh. | ||
| Are you watching the Challenge USA? | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Yep. | |
| I'm caught up. | ||
| I am tired of the people that they choose from Survivor. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I like Cassidy fine. | ||
| Mikayla is okay. | ||
| Kate Cassidy, Mikayla's great. | ||
| No, but I mean from Survivor. | ||
| Oh, okay, okay. | ||
| Like, I liked them on Survivor. | ||
| Right, right, right, gotcha. | ||
| And I'm excited to have them there and see a little bit more of them. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But, like, for the most part, they choose the worst people from Survivor. | ||
| Like, I don't need to see more Sarah. | ||
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No. | |
| She's been on, like, eight seasons of Survivor. | ||
| Tired of her. | ||
| Sarah is the worst. | ||
| I could use more Tyson. | ||
| But what I really want. | ||
| What? | ||
| So there's this guy on Survivor Gabon many years ago named Runaround Bob. | ||
| Is that Gamango or... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Runaround Bob is his name. | ||
| He's an old man. | ||
| He's a science teacher. | ||
| I want them to bring him on. | ||
| I don't know if that fits within the challenge aspect, but I do like the social game involved. | ||
| There's an archetype on Survivor that I really like called Integrity Dads, and they're like... | ||
| There's been a couple of guys. | ||
| There was a guy named Tom who was a firefighter from New York City. | ||
| Listen, it's all about playing fair, everyone. | ||
| It's about the game itself and the integrity of the game. | ||
| And that's how it's supposed to be played. | ||
| Terry Dietz. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| These people, they dominated and did it with like... | ||
| Their head held high and not screwing people over. | ||
| Did it the right way. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But they're old. | ||
| Fuck them. | ||
| And I want to see them on the challenge. | ||
| Bring them on. | ||
| That sounds good. | ||
| See what kind of chaotic energy there would be if there's a 60-year-old who could kick your ass. | ||
| Yeah, that would be fun. | ||
| That would be fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fuck you, bananas. | ||
| And then he could get hurt. | ||
| And then it'd be a whole dramatic thing. | ||
| Or not. | ||
| Oh, no, I was talking about bananas. | ||
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He can hurt bananas. | |
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That would be fine. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, I mean, these people do grueling challenges on Survivor. | ||
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That's true. | |
| Here's what I don't want to see. | ||
| What? | ||
| Someone like Ozzy on the challenge. | ||
| He's overexposed. | ||
| He's been on too many seasons of Survivor. | ||
| We've had enough of Ozzy. | ||
| Get him out of here. | ||
| But I could see him showing up. | ||
| Anyway, thanks, Comfortable Josh. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Next, Anne of Beavs. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Thank you very much! | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Cody and the Fear. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And Baxter and the Doodles. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And Shrimpy. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| And Jordan, we've got a technocrat in the mix, so thank you so much to the movie you wanted to make about Wimbledon already exists. | ||
| It's called Wimbledon, and stars Paul Bettany, Kirsten Dunst, and baby James McAvoy, but I answer to Shark Belly. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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I'll honk to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | |
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
| I have no idea what... | ||
| Movie I wanted to make. | ||
| I remember talking a bit about wanting people to play tennis on ice, but I don't remember what movie. | ||
| I think that was from, like, I want to say hundreds of episodes ago. | ||
| It must have been, because I don't. | ||
| I think we got into a long, like, pitching a movie about Wibbledon, and apparently it is a movie called Wibbledon. | ||
| Oh, well. | ||
| Joke's on us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Usually is. | ||
| So here's where we start. | ||
| Alex declares victory. | ||
| And, man, the beginning of this is boring. | ||
| Heat it up quite a bit. | ||
| Much like a night out on the town. | ||
| Sometimes it starts slow, and then you get three shots in you, and... | ||
| And then things pick up. | ||
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Yep. | |
| I told you 20-plus days ago that my source in the TSA and another source in the Border Patrol confirmed that by the 15th... | ||
| Of September. | ||
| It will begin rolling out masking and vaccine mandates in hospitals and many other areas. | ||
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It's now officially been announced everywhere. | |
| I have stats. | ||
| More than 50 articles and news reports. | ||
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And it's not even the 15th yet. | |
| The full rollout is here. | ||
| Alex Jones wasn't right again. | ||
| Alex Jones told the truth again. | ||
| It wasn't that I predicted something. | ||
| It's a fact. | ||
| I wish we could have backed him off. | ||
| But now we'll be vindicated again and we won't be caught flat-footed. | ||
| So his prediction wasn't that, like, a couple of hospitals will ask their staff to wear masks. | ||
| His prediction was like, lockdowns are coming back! | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I don't know if you get to declare victory on this one. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, sometimes whenever a plane says, it would be nice if you, of your own accord, were to wear a mask, that is exactly the same thing as the government locking you inside of your home. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, like, I mean, he just needs to make it look like he was onto something, and, like, I guess he's gonna take whatever he can get, and I applaud him for his desperateness. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So there have been individual cases of schools or hospitals that have made... | ||
| like some kind of centralized thing that's everywhere. | ||
| The way Alex is, he's like, oh, it's happening. | ||
| It's rolling out. | ||
| What's going on here is that people like Alex enjoyed such a surge of relevance and popularity during the stretch of 2020 to 2022 when they were constantly screaming about how not cooperating with public health guidance was important. | ||
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It's cool. | |
| It's a pillar of your personality. | ||
| It's a real cool thing to do. | ||
| But it's not the same anymore. | ||
| The people who you're able to get excited on those fronts are the kind of people who need the next big thing on a fairly regular basis or else they get bored. | ||
| They need the shiny spectacle of the trucker convoys, the elaborate conspiracies about the vaccine being snake venom, the conspiracies about the vaccines killing... | ||
| That's a good one. | ||
| And so, if you're going to keep a conspiracy audience captured, you're going to need to jump around quite a bit. | ||
| But those anti-mask, anti-public health guidance days were so exciting for Alex. | ||
| The money was flowing and it was actually possible to attract new listeners since the idea that you were losing some autonomy in the face of a public health crisis... | ||
| is something that normal people can feel. | ||
| It's harder to appeal to the common person with stories of interdimensional demons trying to make your kids trans for no reason, since their mission is just to kill everyone. | ||
| Conversely, you don't have to be too far gone to feel like decisions that would be wholly individual in other contexts were becoming heavily influenced by the group's needs. | ||
| To where a mask or not does appear to be a decision that should only really involve your own needs and wants, But the variables that are really at play are the needs and concerns of the people around you. | ||
| Outbreaks and pandemics are population-level problems, so when you deal with them, you need to be mindful that some of the things that you need to do may be based on population-level concerns more than individual-level ones. | ||
| For instance, getting vaccinated does not guarantee that you won't get sick, but it does drastically limit the spread to other people. | ||
| And if those people are vaccinated too, that will limit things even more and go a long way towards helping protect the folks who can't get vaccinated, like immunocompromised people, and it will limit the transmission. | ||
| of it to the extent that it becomes substantially less of a problem. | ||
| Those people's health isn't your health. | ||
| So from a purely selfish standpoint, it doesn't feel like it should be a variable in your decision making. | ||
| And this is a feeling that can be exploited very easily by people like Alex and most of It worked really well and excited their base so much the last time, so they're desperate to try to recapture some of the magic, but the desperation's a little bit transparent. | ||
| Like, really jumping the gun on celebrating your predictions of draconian COVID lockdowns beginning. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I feel like if the general person, even at this level, which I think we kind of have to look at as being somebody who is very, like, listen. | ||
| I can't do any more COVID shit. | ||
| I'm just tired. | ||
| I'm just tired, right? | ||
| So, if I have to wear a mask, fine. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| I'll just wear a mask, you know, like that. | ||
| I feel like there's that same level of exhaustion on the conspiracy side. | ||
| There has to be. | ||
| Just like... | ||
| I'm done. | ||
| I'm done. | ||
| The government's going to kill me or not. | ||
| I can't care anymore about this mask shit. | ||
| That would be a rational perspective, and unfortunately it's an irrational space. | ||
| So I don't believe that that is the point that you get to. | ||
| And part of the reason is because of what I was talking about, that dancing around from exciting topic to exciting topic. | ||
| It doesn't give you time to get exhausted and realize, like, I'm supposed to be dead by nukes over and over again by now. | ||
| What's happened? | ||
| Your predictions have been constantly wrong. | ||
| Here we stand trying to solve the next problems that are in front of us. | ||
| It would work better if we worked together. | ||
| Go fuck yourself, Alex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, you know, this is probably the best profitable thing he can do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he's got some clips of people talking about shots and vaccines. | ||
| All right. | ||
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I'll take a shot. | |
| This is scandalous. | ||
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Uh-oh. | |
| Here is the evil appointed unelected governor of New York. | ||
| What? | ||
| Telling you your previous shots didn't work. | ||
| You need the new one. | ||
| But it never worked. | ||
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And then here's Bill Gates and Fauci has something to tell you as well. | |
| Tell everybody, don't rely on the fact that you had a vaccine in the past. | ||
| It will not help you this time around. | ||
| Tell everybody, don't rely on the fact that you had a vaccine in the past. | ||
| It will not help you this time. | ||
| But you don't have a choice. | ||
| People act like you have a choice. | ||
| People don't feel like going to the stadium. | ||
| When they might get infected. | ||
| It's not the government who's saying, okay, just ignore this disease. | ||
| People are deeply affected by seeing these deaths, by knowing they could be part of the transmission chain and old people, their parents, their grandparents could be affected by this. | ||
| And so you don't get to say, ignore what's going on here. | ||
| There will be the ability, particularly in rich countries, to open up if things are done well over the next few months. | ||
| But, for the world at large, normalcy only returns when we've largely vaccinated the entire global population. | ||
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Tell everybody, don't rely on the fact that you had a vaccine in the past. | |
| It will not help you this time around. | ||
| Again, we have experience with this type of vaccine in billions of people. | ||
| It's a safe vaccine. | ||
| Of course, with the mRNA, there's a very, very, very low risk, particularly in young men, of getting a myocarditis. | ||
| But if you look at the risk of myocarditis, from COVID itself is greater than the risk of the vaccine. | ||
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Tell everybody, don't rely on the fact that you had a vaccine in the past. | |
| It will not help you this time around. | ||
| What did he say? | ||
| The only way you go back to normal is you take the shot because it protects you. | ||
| But now they say the shot doesn't protect you. | ||
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In fact, it destroys your immune system and makes you sicker. | |
| So you look a little confused, and I'm sure it was just momentary, but just for people. | ||
| He's saying that Kathy Hochul is unelected because Andrew Cuomo resigned and she became governor. | ||
| But Alex is forgetting that she won an election last year for governor. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I guess she is elected. | ||
| No, I mean, I was like, because he resigned, but then they did it again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She was like interim governor because she was his running mate, lieutenant governor, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Isn't that the position? | ||
| I thought. | ||
| Lieutenant governor, yeah. | ||
| So yeah, the first clip is at Kathy Hochul, and it's from a few days ago, and she was not saying that the vaccine didn't work, but that there's an updated vaccine, a different vaccine. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| There's a very important point that she makes in the full press conference that she gave. | ||
| Was that, you know, what we've had so far has been these vaccines, and then there have been boosters, which are a series of... | ||
| of the same shots. | ||
| This is a different vaccine that is aimed at the strains that are predominant now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What she was expressing was, this isn't the same vaccine, and that old vaccine is not necessarily going to help you in terms of what we have now. | ||
| It's not a request to take a booster, it is a new vaccine. | ||
| The old vaccine did stuff for this. | ||
| This new one does stuff for this. | ||
| Not complicated. | ||
| In some ways, not to play the old game of comparing it to a flu, but an old season's flu vaccine may not help you for the future seasons. | ||
| That's how a mutation works. | ||
| So the Bill Gates clip there is from July 2020, so it pretty much has nothing to do with the current story Alex is lying about. | ||
| The Fauci clip is from this week, and he's talking about the... | ||
| But he also retired like 10 months ago, so I don't know what he's still doing in the villain gang for Alex. | ||
| He's, uh... | ||
| Move on. | ||
| Let the man go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, wait, but I forgot. | ||
| Alex liked him initially. | ||
| Oh, wait. | ||
| Steve Pachenik said he was a legend. | ||
| That is kind of... | ||
| That sucks for him. | ||
| You know, like, I get Obama... | ||
| For Tony F? | ||
| Yeah, I get Obama, you know, like, just because he's not president anymore doesn't mean he doesn't still have, like, those political contacts and shit. | ||
| But dude was just a... | ||
| I'm sure Fauci does have some context, and he still gives speeches, and he still has a relevancy to him, but like... | ||
| Yeah, you need to get him out of the rogues gallery. | ||
| Obama makes sense, because past presidents should always be in that rarefied air. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| You never know what they could do. | ||
| But with Fauci, let the man retire! | ||
| Let him go to the pool! | ||
| Let him chill out. | ||
| So two of these clips are from recent times, and one of them is a two-second clip that's played about 20 times. | ||
| These are paired with a longer clip of Bill Gates from three years ago to give the impression that everything is happening all over again. | ||
| It's easy to sell that impression that 2020 is happening all over again when you just play clips from 2020 and pretend that they're current, which is one of the unspoken lies Alex is passing off here. | ||
| Like, it's just, I mean, it's... | ||
| Not even worth it. | ||
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No. | |
| This is not worth listening to. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And then it gets worse. | ||
| No. | ||
| It gets worse. | ||
| How? | ||
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Tell everybody don't rely on the fact that you had a vaccine in the past. | |
| It will not help you this time around. | ||
| Tell everybody don't rely on the fact that you had a vaccine in the past. | ||
| It will not help you this time around. | ||
| Tell everybody don't rely on the fact that you had a vaccine in the past. | ||
| It will not help you this time around. | ||
| Let's play it one more time. | ||
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Tell everybody, don't rely on the fact that you had a vaccine in the past. | |
| It will not help you this time around. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Play it five more times, actually. | ||
| Five more. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Yeah, it's a little much. | ||
| Because I think that Alex thinks that's a smoking gun of her saying that the vaccine's never worked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's not. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| Like, even taking the two seconds that he plays, you know, devoid of context of the larger speech, like, it doesn't say that. | ||
| And then if you watch the full thing... | ||
| That's not what she's saying. | ||
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Nope. | |
| But I guess it has enough of that appearance that it plays for Alex's purposes. | ||
| I mean, I suppose if the idea is just like, we need to get this in you to kill you, what doesn't make sense to me, if that is the smoking gun, then it's not admitting that the last vaccine didn't work, it's admitting that the last vaccine didn't kill you. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I mean, according to Alex, yeah. | ||
| Isn't that what it is? | ||
| Oh, whoops, our bioweapon didn't work. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Can we get a mulligan? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That should be the angle, right? | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's fucking dumb. | ||
| That's stupid. | ||
| Yeah, so it's kind of unlistenable, this beginning of the show. | ||
| And it's just like, I get to a point where... | ||
| I believe that COVID is still a serious problem. | ||
| I do think that there are issues that are unresolved with it, and I'm not saying we should stop talking about COVID, but I want to stop talking about Alex talking about COVID, because it doesn't evolve. | ||
| There's nothing interesting. | ||
| It's always lies. | ||
| It's so boring to get through, and so I grow weary. | ||
| Yeah, unlike the virus, it does not grow and mutate into something better at killing people. | ||
| It's just exactly the same. | ||
| You know, you could make an argument that viruses learn. | ||
| And Alex doesn't. | ||
| That you could make! | ||
| This is all over the country, but mainly East Coast, West Coast. | ||
| Hospital system imposes draconian mandatory COVID vaccines for healthcare workers. | ||
| Draconian! | ||
| Unpaid leave and potential termination. | ||
| And now they're saying, oh, and if you want to come to the hospital, you've got to have it, or you want a kidney transplant, or you broke your leg, we're going to refuse you care if you ever take an experimental fraud. | ||
| I mean, they're murdering us. | ||
| Murder! | ||
| Murder! | ||
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Red rum! | |
| Which is Murder Backwards. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thanks for explaining that. | ||
| Man, I like that. | ||
| That's Murder Backwards, by the way. | ||
| Yeah, it's Murder Backwards. | ||
| We all saw The Shining. | ||
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I think we all got there, buddy. | |
| What a dumb, dumb man. | ||
| So people are not being turned away from hospitals en masse because they're unvaccinated. | ||
| Actually, Alex slipped up with his examples there. | ||
| He included one true one in that list of bullshit, and that offers a window into the story that he's lying about. | ||
| If you're unvaccinated and you show up at a hospital with a broken leg, they won't deny you care, but they might offer you a vaccine. | ||
| However, if you reject getting the vaccine, it could dramatically hurt your chances at getting an organ transplant. | ||
| Organs are a limited resource, and unfortunately, someone has to ultimately make a decision about where those resources should be used. | ||
| For instance, if you're a smoker, you're less likely to get an organ. | ||
| It's not a good system, and there are ways that it becomes deeply troubling in terms of how people can interpret priority of human life. | ||
| It's a very kind of gross way to look at things when you have resource allocation. | ||
| And, bleh, I don't know. | ||
| When you see the way that we allow people to treat our water as a resource that can be handed out or whatnot, imagine organs, but like a million times worse. | ||
| And I would imagine, I'm not involved in the field, so I don't know this, but I would imagine there's an insanely complicated formula that calculates likely human life years that'll be gained by one person getting the transplant over another that might be, I don't know, it's messy, though, whatever the case. | ||
| I could see a dude in flip-flops just being like, you buddy, you're getting that heart today! | ||
| I hope not. | ||
| Jordan, very seriously, I hope that's not the case. | ||
| You have chilled me to the core. | ||
| So there was a woman in Alberta, Canada, who was on a transplant waiting list, but was told that her place on that list was on hold unless she... | ||
| Right. | ||
| As it stands, the argument is essentially that if you're not willing to take precautions against getting COVID, then it's not unlikely that you'll be given this new organ only to get COVID and have it destroy your new heart or liver or whatever. | ||
| Now, I don't know exactly how this works in terms of people who are unable to get vaccinated for other concerns and other medical dynamics. | ||
| I don't know if they have the same impact from these. | ||
| You know, resource allocation issues. | ||
| And, you know, if so, that's awful. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you gotta figure one of the bigger issues is just maintaining the organ inside of the body it's not supposed to be. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, and the amount of medications and stuff you have to do that fuck with your immune system while you're doing that, I imagine any... | ||
| Like, a pandemic and an organ transplant situation are no good, even if you're the... | ||
| So, this article that Alex is reading is from Gateway Pundit, and it's just about new rules that are being put in place by the Providence Medical Group, who run 51 hospitals in 7 states. | ||
| It's not the government or globalists, it's a mid-sized medical group deciding what to require of their employees. | ||
| Also, the article in Gateway Pundit... | ||
| It has to start with a disclaimer. | ||
| Quote, So your whole article is bullshit, then. | ||
| And now you've put out that bullshit, people online have spread it far and wide, and Alex is exaggerating a bunch of other bullshit based solely on what he imagines your bullshit article says. | ||
| Thank God you made that clarification, really cleaned up the mess there. | ||
| That's a responsibility in journalism. | ||
| I do appreciate clarifications, because in my experience, people always look at them and go, oh, well then I shall no longer believe in the main thrust of the article. | ||
| Right, and you know what? | ||
| It's like... | ||
| The Gateway Pundit is the kind of organization that's going to really take stock of what it means to this clarification. | ||
| Like, oh, maybe we were 180 degrees off on this one. | ||
| Let's be more careful in the future. | ||
| They're going to change. | ||
| I wonder what... | ||
| Actually, that's something I would like to know. | ||
| I would like to know how that disclaimer got on there. | ||
| Did they get an email to a lawyer? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I understand that the lawyer came back. | ||
| Yeah, I'm certain it's a lawyer. | ||
| Why is it specifically that shit? | ||
| Like, was somebody like, no, we're not going to put this disclaimer on here. | ||
| We can lie whatever the fuck we want! | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised. | ||
| Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised, too. | ||
| So this article on Gateway Pundit, the claims are based on a tweet posted by an account called Chester Tam, who paid for verification and has about 6,000 followers. | ||
| He posted a screenshot of a policy update sheet that... | ||
| Totally doesn't back up the story on Gateway Pundit, nor the story that his tweet itself is pushing. | ||
| Case in point, the tweet says, Very clearly doesn't say this. | ||
| It says that caregivers need to provide proof of vaccination by November 30th. | ||
| But, quote, caregivers who choose not to receive the vaccine may submit a declination form. | ||
| If they already have an approved exemption on file, they will not need to submit a declination form. | ||
| Declination is a strange word. | ||
| They will not need to submit a declination this season. | ||
| It further says, quote, caregivers who do not obtain a COVID-19 vaccine or decline by November 30th may be removed from the hospital schedule, placed on unpaid leave, or may be subject to termination for construed noncompliance with the facility policy. | ||
| When this started flying around as a hot new COVID conspiracy talking point, Providence tried to clarify their position and reached out to this idiot on Twitter saying, caregivers can choose to decline the vaccine. | ||
| Those who do not wish to receive it simply need to submit a declination form by November 30th. | ||
| They no longer need to request approval for a medical or religious exemption as many of our states and CMS required at the height of COVID. | ||
| This policy has been our practice for many years with the flu vaccine and we are now extending this to the COVID vaccine. | ||
| This is the opposite of draconian, and it's really just an admin human resources issue. | ||
| This is them trying to make sure that they have their paperwork in order, so they have express written documentation if a staff member isn't vaccinated, probably for legal or liability reasons. | ||
| This is not a get vaccinated or be fired issue, it's a fill out this season's form or you might be suspended issue, which admittedly is way less exciting than how this Twitter user framed it, which was then blindly and irresponsibly repeated by the Gateway Pundit. | ||
| Which is now expanded upon by Alex and all these other shitheads out there. | ||
| Because these idiots refuse to read the stuff that they're basing their bullshit on, or because it's in their financial interest to pretend that they have zero reading comprehension, they got this completely 180 degrees wrong. | ||
| This was a company trying to make it easier for their employees not to be vaccinated, and even that was reported as a horrible attack on the downtrodden but heroic anti-vaxxers. | ||
| And here's my point. | ||
| It's useless to argue with someone like this idiot on Twitter or Alex or the Gateway Pundit. | ||
| They either are too dumb to understand the things they read or they care so little about accuracy that they just repeat whatever shit is convenient for their current hustles without ever checking if the information is correct. | ||
| It's pointless to argue, but it's critical to understand this dynamic of how information is being misused and exploited for the benefit of these liars. | ||
| Understand this dynamic, and when you encounter someone using this kind of behavior to push their narratives, you can just write them off. | ||
| They're poor stewards of the public's attention and the information they're pretending to disseminate, and you're never going to get decent information from someone who acts like this. | ||
| It's indicative of being disqualified from being trusted, honestly. | ||
| Yeah, there is a certain amount of, like, you are just... | ||
| What shouldn't happen is you don't need to be punished for this random Twitter guy. | ||
| You just gotta go away. | ||
| Nobody should pay attention to you. | ||
| Just go away. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know? | ||
| That's it. | ||
| And it's unfortunate because you can just change your Twitter name. | ||
| Yup. | ||
| I mean, nowadays, really, the subject of media literacy has become so highly complicated because... | ||
| Everything is now kind of media. | ||
| When it once was trying to understand where newspapers get their sources, what is this based on, the reporting, the editorial positions of the paper, now it's like, who's this anonymous person on Twitter? | ||
| That's not cool. | ||
| That's not okay. | ||
| And it's important to understand. | ||
| That there's no corrections with people like this Twitter idiot. | ||
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| He was informed that he was stealing another account's screenshot from a person named The Predicament, who has even less followers. | ||
| They got into a back and forth, and I think it's really illuminating. | ||
| So this idiot asks The Predicament, quote, Did you see the response from Providence Hospital? | ||
| She replies, quote, Yes, I received something similar and added it to my post. | ||
| This idiot then asks, quote, Does this seem like a backpedaling response? | ||
| Not sure if I buy it. | ||
| She responds, quote, good question. | ||
| The original letter was undoubtedly meant to be coercive. | ||
| These shitheads have a screenshot of a perfectly clear notification from this hospital system that does not say that people need to be vaccinated, and the only reason these shitheads think it does is because that's what they want it to say. | ||
| When the hospital system sends them a clarification that wouldn't be necessary if these shitheads were good faith actors, they see it as the hospital backpedaling. | ||
| They got exposed, so they're changing their tune, except that their tune is exactly the same as it was in the initial screenshot. | ||
| Providence hospitals went out of their way to clarify this issue because they were under the assumption that some of the people who were Ha ha! | ||
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| But that assumption was wrong. | ||
| Oh, you sweet summer children. | ||
| The attempt to helpfully explain what these shitheads were getting wrong was experienced and interpreted as an attempt by the hospital to cover its ass. | ||
| Because these Twitter shitheads were just too good at being detectives, and the whole case was being blown wide open, so Providence Hospital was scared. | ||
| This is how these folks are going to act, and pretending to take their point seriously or pretending to believe that they take their own point seriously is a losing game. | ||
| No matter what you do, if you're in the position of the hospital of Eventually it will lead to coverage like this on Infowars where you're being accused of murder. | ||
| It's just a choice of whether or not you want your attempts to clarify the situation to be added to the conspiracy. | ||
| That's the only agency you have in this whole thing. | ||
| Yeah, all you're doing is just putting up an extra paragraph on their lie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I say not engaging is probably the best move. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Also, Alex seems kind of fucked up today. | ||
| Like I said, it's not a normal drunk and it's not a coke thing, but he's not right. | ||
| I'm worried. | ||
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| Anyway, I found that really interesting to see the way that this, like... | ||
| This Twitter nonsense metastasized very easily into an article on the Gateway Pundit and then very easily onto coverage on Infowars. | ||
| And it's just from some random weirdo who posts dumb shit on Twitter. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| Not being able to... | ||
| Okay, so here's the thing. | ||
| He either is not able to understand what he's reading in the screenshot, or he is such a malicious actor that he understands that it doesn't say this, but he can trick people into thinking that it does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| No. | ||
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They just went along with exactly what this Twitter person's narrative was. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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It's bad. | |
| It's a bad change. | ||
| I really believe that we're in a situation... | ||
| I think we're dealing with addicts. | ||
| I think we've moved past the idea of even rational thought. | ||
| Or irrational thought. | ||
| We're purely in addict behavior right now because you can see the way that these people are acting. | ||
| It's to get what they want. | ||
| It's the desire that they're reaching. | ||
| Even this conversation, the Twitter conversation, I find interesting because they both want to feel smart and they feel so fucking stupid because they just read this letter. | ||
| It says the exact opposite of what they wanted to say. | ||
| And it says the same as the original screenshot. | ||
| And it says the same as the original screenshot. | ||
| And the only people who will reach out and say, no, you're right to continue to be an asshole for no reason, are these people. | ||
| They get what they desire out of it. | ||
| And it's mutually reinforcing. | ||
| They give it to each other. | ||
| They cooperatively help create ways in which the explanation for why you're wrong is actually a part of the conspiracy. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I think the addiction framework idea that you're thinking of is kind of maybe helpful because... | ||
| Because it gives you an endorphin rush. | ||
| It gives you some kind of a feeling of, like, I've discovered something, and that can be something you chase. | ||
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Totally. | |
| I don't see that behavior not being part of this. | ||
| I mean, I had a conversation with my oldest brother, and he was screaming furious, angry as shit about the deficit! | ||
| And it's like... | ||
| What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| How has this impacted your life? | ||
| Why are you angry about this? | ||
| And it's not about that. | ||
| That's just there because the addict behavior is what he's there for, you know? | ||
| The addict behavior is the anger. | ||
| It's the emotion. | ||
| It's the... | ||
| Everything, you know, like, your brain lights up. | ||
| I'm sure it doesn't map one-to-one, but yeah, that is a way to look at it that I think is interesting. | ||
| So, I'm sick and tired of this vaccine stuff, and thankfully we get to move on to another topic. | ||
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| And that is that Alex got mad at an article that he didn't read. | ||
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Oh. | |
| The Economist ran a big story yesterday saying Alex Jones has Republicans obsessed with the Rothschilds. | ||
| The powerful Rothschild family. | ||
| The Rothschilds is a big name, but there's a lot of Rothschilds, but the ones out of Europe, the ones out of London. | ||
| So reprint me that, or you can just look it up, type in Alex Jones Rothschild. | ||
| It's all over the news. | ||
| And they go, oh my God, the Rothschilds have no power where nobody, Alex Jones is mean guys. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| They don't tell you in the article that The Economist is wholly owned by Lord Rothschild. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Which Lord Rothschild? | ||
| The one. | ||
| The Lord Rothschild. | ||
| The one who died last year. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So this Economist article is about our friend Mike Rothschild's new book, Jewish Space Lasers. | ||
| I was going to say, I think I was like, that sounds like, okay. | ||
| It's fun to see Alex defensive and self-conscious about this, especially considering the article is not all about him. | ||
| Also, Lord Rothschild doesn't own The Economist. | ||
| The Economist is owned by The Economist Group. | ||
| This is a private company that was founded in 1843 and has a number of stakeholders. | ||
| The primary owners are a Dutch holding company called Exor. | ||
| This is a majority owned by the Agnelli family, the descendants of Giovanni Agnelli, the guy who started the car company Fiat. | ||
| They hold 43.4% of the stock in the Economist Group, which is the largest stake, but there's no single majority holder. | ||
| Lady Lynn Forrester de Rothschild was formerly on the board of directors for the Economist Group, but it's not a current thing. | ||
| However, she does retain some ownership interest, but nowhere near the level of Exor. | ||
| Something like 20%, perhaps? | ||
| According to... | ||
| That's in a Politico article from 2015. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And it's intentional. | ||
| They have a structure, the Economist Group does, that... | ||
| It doesn't allow for single ownership. | ||
| From their website, quote, Alex doesn't know anything about the subject he's covering, | ||
| and is in fact just throwing out anti-Semitic talking points about the Rothschilds that he vaguely recalls, which ironically is part of Mike's book, an attempt to push back on this. | ||
| So Alex is actually embodying the negative... | ||
| The very thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The very thing. | ||
| So that's kind of fun. | ||
| It is both, like, it's expected in... | ||
| I mean... | ||
| I feel a little bit like how a rat must feel whenever it hits the right button and the little cookie comes out. | ||
| You know, it's like, listen, I've hit this button so many times, I know the fucking cookie's coming out. | ||
| I know exactly what he's going to do. | ||
| I totally know that he is going to act exactly this way. | ||
| But, in the back of my mind, they're still like... | ||
| If I press this button and the cookie doesn't come out, my whole world is crumbling. | ||
| It does shake the paradigm. | ||
| If Alex isn't a shithead. | ||
| If Alex doesn't behave like a shithead this time, everything I know is out the window. | ||
| Now one thing I really enjoy about his behavior is this cockiness and the joy and exuberance that he feels about the Rothschilds owning The Economist. | ||
| But he's wrong. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So here's the Rothschild publication. | ||
| They didn't tell you. | ||
| By the way, this is a Rothschild-owned publication. | ||
| Look it up for yourself. | ||
| Type it in. | ||
| Who owns The Economist? | ||
| Type it in. | ||
| Oh, is he going to do it? | ||
| One of the most, quote, elite globalist publications that speaks with the mouth of Surin. | ||
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| Oh, the Rothschilds, they don't have any power. | ||
| They just own the majority of BlackRock that owns 87% of everything. | ||
| They're such nice people. | ||
| They want to give us a universal basic income to take care of us and give us Bugsy. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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Sir Evelyn Robert Rothschild. | |
| The Economist Newspaper. | ||
| LTD. | ||
| The Economist Newspaper Limited is a holy ill subsidiary of the Economist Group. | ||
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Sir Evelyn Robert Rothschild was chairman of the company. | |
| From 1789, all of the columnists has a global emphasis on scope, and about two-thirds of 75 staff and journalists are based in London, borough of Westminster, and it's still owned by the Rothschild family. | ||
| But they have no power. | ||
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Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. | |
| Oh, my goody-goody gumdrops. | ||
| Such good gumdrops. | ||
| What? | ||
| So, uh, this is a mess, uh, what's going on here. | ||
| The Rothschilds don't own BlackRock. | ||
| That's just ridiculous. | ||
| Also, Alex accidentally cold-read that, uh, to the extent that Evelyn Rothschild was a member of the board at The Economist, like, it ended 40 years ago. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Even by Alex's reading. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He wasn't the whole owner, which is what Alex is claiming. | ||
| He was the chairman of the board of directors until 86, or whatever it was, what exact year. | ||
| Alex is fucking stupid. | ||
| And also, Evelyn Rothschild died last year. | ||
| At the end there, Alex uses some words that I know he would never use from the top of his head, so it's pretty easy to Google it and see where he's reading from. | ||
| Alex says, quote, The Economist has a global emphasis and scope, but two-thirds of the 75 staff journalists are based in the London borough of Westminster, and it's still owned by the Rothschild family. | ||
| That's what Alex said. | ||
| He would never use words like borough, global emphasis and scope. | ||
| Definitely not. | ||
| Just not happening. | ||
| So two critical points here. | ||
| The first is that Alex is reading from the Wikipedia page for The Economist. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Second, he just completely made up the line, and it's still owned by the Rothschild family. | ||
| I knew he made that up. | ||
| That is not in the text at all. | ||
| I knew he made that up. | ||
| I suspect what happened here is that Alex got a little cocky, and he tried to prove one of his false talking points. | ||
| Terrible idea. | ||
| As he read through this Wiki page, he started to realize that he's wrong, and even just consulting a source like Wikipedia would call into serious question his knowledge of the subject. | ||
| Thus, he just injects his own claim into the source, presenting it and pretending that it's the source talking instead of it just being his own desperate ass trying to look It's honestly pretty pathetic, but definitely slightly less pathetic than listening to Alex, liking him, and allowing him to gaslight you like this. | ||
| His audience really should, uh... | ||
| You know, really hold him accountable for lying. | ||
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Anything. | |
| Like, that's a dirty lie. | ||
| That is a dirty lie. | ||
| And you know what's crazy about it is that I would bet five minutes after he said that, Alex remembers the Wikipedia page saying that it's still owned by the Rothschild. | ||
| Oh, totally. | ||
| You know, like, he's completely rewritten it so that... | ||
| Not only did I not lie, but it says what I said it did, and if you don't find it there, that's because they changed it to make me look crazy. | ||
| It totally could have, because anyone can change anything on Wikipedia, and it's a cover-up. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You are creating a world to coddle your own pathetic self in, and it is sad. | ||
| So things are going to get really weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then Judge Joe Brown is going to show up a little bit later to be a bigot. | ||
| So we're going to deal with that when that happens. | ||
| But for now, let's take a little bath in the upsetting waters of Alex being very, very weird. | ||
| I think he wants to fuck humanity. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Oh, my goody, goody gumdrops. | ||
| They just think you're so stupid. | ||
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See, I have this sickness, according to the levels. | |
| Hmm. | ||
| Real quick, that's where he was drinking from the cup. | ||
| I really like you. | ||
| I like your good stuff, your bad stuff. | ||
| I know you so well. | ||
| At this point, he's staring at the cup. | ||
| I assume we're talking to the cup. | ||
| A fan of humanity. | ||
| I know if you watch Keanu Reeves and Al Pacino in that movie, if I go find it. | ||
| The devils, I'm a fan of man speech. | ||
| The devils, I'm a fan of man's speech. | ||
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From. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| What's that movie about the devil? | ||
| You are joking! | ||
| The devil's advocate. | ||
| It's Wimbledon. | ||
| What a lie. | ||
| Jesus Christ is a fan of man. | ||
| God created man. | ||
| The devil is the accuser who's come to kill, steal, and destroy against man. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Remember that. | ||
| Hey, man, are you arguing with a movie that came out like 25, 30 years ago? | ||
| We're closing. | ||
| You gotta go. | ||
| Yeah, I'm confused. | ||
| What is happening right now? | ||
| He's arguing with Al Pacino. | ||
| That's what I thought. | ||
| I thought that he was actually being like, now, see, this is where they went wrong. | ||
| It is Jesus who is a fan of me. | ||
| The fucking devil! | ||
| There's no way... | ||
| That there's some sort of thematic element that they were trying to express by making this the speech that the devil gives. | ||
| That seems crazy. | ||
| Right, you make a very interesting antagonist when they can make a compelling argument for why they're right, but they are wrong. | ||
| In many ways, it's kind of, you know, what creates a good villain is a kernel, or at very least, the belief held by themselves that they're the good guy. | ||
| Yes, and, funnily enough, Pointed out in the Bible, the devil can quote scripture as well. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| You know, it's kind of like one of the things that makes good wrestling villains, is them being partially right. | ||
| It's like Killmonger in Black Panther, you know? | ||
| Like, yeah, man, you got a point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That creates the tension of, like... | ||
| Asking and forcing the audience to wrestle with the larger points of what makes this a villain. | ||
| Alex isn't there. | ||
| He's not there for it. | ||
| He's not ready for that kind of critique. | ||
| But he is drunk. | ||
| Almost certainly. | ||
| The best villains force you to confront a question that you're deliberately avoiding to ask. | ||
| Or you just haven't thought of. | ||
| Or you haven't thought of. | ||
| And then at the end of it, you have to change and realize why they were right and why they were wrong and then grow from it. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| And at the same time, create empathy for the people who aren't villains who are in the same position as the folks who are suffering from the things that that villain was. | ||
| Trying to solve the wrong way. | ||
| Or you could just end the movie and everything's right back where it started and then make another movie. | ||
| Or the devil's advocate could just be someone playing Jesus and being like, I love humanity. | ||
| The devil's advocate does end exactly where it began. | ||
| Yeah, it is true. | ||
| It is a loop. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh man, that movie's bad. | ||
| I do. | ||
| Listen, I will say this. | ||
| That Al Pacino speech is fucking great. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It is amazing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Al Pacino was on fire in that movie. | ||
| He was literally on fire in that movie. | ||
| If I'm going to watch an Al Pacino performance, I think I'll probably take that or Dunkachino. | ||
| Yeah, that one's good. | ||
| So yeah, Alex, man, he's a mess. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I know humanity's like a baby finger painting and making messes. | ||
| I know we got problems, but man, I've seen your hikes, too. | ||
| I know what you're capable of. | ||
| I know what I'm capable of. | ||
| Incredible stuff. | ||
| I've done things I don't even say on air. | ||
| People wouldn't believe it. | ||
| I don't think you've got the same potential I've got. | ||
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I believe the things you do say on air. | |
| I bet on you. | ||
| You bet on me. | ||
|
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They bet against you. | |
| You know what I say to the new one? | ||
| You want people to die, you kill yourselves first and show us how it's done. | ||
| Oh, but you don't want to die. | ||
| You want us to die. | ||
| So you can exercise your power. | ||
| Yeah, so you just sweared a bit there. | ||
| I went back and I found it, like, I was going to cut it out, but it's kind of just like, hey, fuck you, fuck yourself. | ||
| It's not really that good. | ||
| Just like, Rothschilds, fuck yourself. | ||
| Hey, economist, go fuck yourself. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it just is indicative of lack of self-control. | ||
| Yeah, I just, I feel like we should, there should be a rule now where, fine. | ||
| If you hate one rich person for being blah, that's fine. | ||
| You hate the Rothschilds? | ||
| Fine. | ||
| We hate all rich people now, though. | ||
| You can't be like, this rich guy's good and that rich guy's bad. | ||
| You have to despise the entirety of that up there. | ||
| You know, like, hey, fuck the Rothschilds. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Fuck Elon Musk too. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| You know, like, get it done. | ||
| Well, I think that what you have to do is you have to be aware of... | ||
| Be open about and be clear about what it is about the people you hate. | ||
| Sure, yeah. | ||
| Why is it that you hate them? | ||
| It's not because they own The Economist. | ||
| If that characteristic is true of somebody else, then you're kind of, you know, you have a responsibility to either hate that person or explain why you don't. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Alex doesn't do that much. | ||
| No. | ||
| So he's a man who's not impressed. | ||
| By athletes. | ||
| Or something. | ||
| So I don't know what he's talking about. | ||
| I was going to say, he's very easily impressed. | ||
| He's in a weird state. | ||
| But he says this is just delightful. | ||
| He says he's not impressed with Mike Tyson. | ||
| And then he realizes that he's took mushrooms with Mike Tyson. | ||
| Super impressed with him. | ||
| And so he has to double back and be like, you know, Mike Tyson's actually pretty cool. | ||
| So enjoy that ride. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| They insult your intelligence, and when you let them do it, they win. | ||
| That's why men say, Alex, come over. | ||
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We got some NFL players and work. | |
| They'll go watch some football reruns today. | ||
| You all right, man? | ||
| I say no thanks. | ||
| I'm not impressed by UFC heavyweight champions. | ||
| I'm not impressed by Tyson Fury. | ||
| I'm not impressed by Mike Tyson. | ||
| I'm not impressed by any of that crap. | ||
| Because men aren't supposed to spend their time looking at simulated war and getting obsessed with that. | ||
| You're supposed to spend your time in reality. | ||
| And the instincts you have for calculus and plays and information, like a football game or a basketball game, is what you're meant to do in business and life for your family and your country and your nation and your world and your people. | ||
| I like Mike Tyson because he's anti-globalist now. | ||
| And I've been on his show and he's been on mine. | ||
| I like Mike Tyson, but I don't care that Mike Tyson can knock people's heads off. | ||
| The real war is understanding the globalist operation and its energy and is building our own systems in a pro-human future. | ||
| The real war is getting our sperm count that's 90 plus percent down back to full power. | ||
| Boost that sperm. | ||
| The real war is getting cancer levels down. | ||
| You didn't need to tell us that. | ||
| The real war is getting... | ||
| Test scores up. | ||
| The real war is increasing food output and exploration. | ||
| Because I'm a Phantom Man. | ||
| Do you guys find Devil's Advocate Phantom Man's speech? | ||
| Play the speech. | ||
| So, he sounds weird when he says play the speech, and part of the reason is because he's put his head in his hands. | ||
| And there is a strong feeling that he is talking about nothing, trying to run out the clock until someone finds that clip. | ||
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And he can just play the Al Pacino clip and we'll get out of there. | |
| Just please, someone play the clip. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just play the clip. | ||
| Play the clip. | ||
| I need a cigarette. | ||
| Play the clip. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Strange vibes. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He's real drunk. | ||
| It feels like it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But like I said, the reason that it becomes very weird for me is that like... | ||
| It's not the same as a lot of his other drunk behaviors. | ||
| No, that's true. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| He's a mess. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's not like... | ||
| It doesn't have a lot of the real telltale signs that I usually see. | ||
| No, it doesn't have... | ||
| It's not the sad drunk. | ||
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Nope. | |
| It's not the sloppy drunk. | ||
| It's not the angry drunk. | ||
| They want to take my kids or my cat drunk. | ||
| It's not that drunk. | ||
| And it's not the giddy throwing shit drunk. | ||
| It's not we're all gonna die drunk. | ||
| No, this is just like a real crossroads drunk. | ||
| It's a, I just got deposed again drunk. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It's, I'm fucked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's face it. | ||
| Eventually, people are going to find out that the bankruptcy isn't going as well as I pretend it is kind of drunk. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| So anyway, is Judge Joe Brown come in? | ||
| That tracks. | ||
| Do you ever watch Judge Joe Brown? | ||
| No. | ||
| Which one is Judge Joe Brown? | ||
| He had a big mustache. | ||
| Big mustache? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And he kind of always looked like he was so bored with what was going on in court that he was going to fall asleep. | ||
| Oh, that's fun. | ||
| I used to watch a lot of those judge shows. | ||
| Did you? | ||
| Because I would skip school a lot in high school, and then also after high school. | ||
| I took a semester or two off after high school before I went to college. | ||
| And so I was smoking weed at my buddy's house all day and working at a movie theater in the evenings and stuff. | ||
| So we'd just watch a ton of Judge Joe Brown and Joe Mathis. | ||
| Judge Mathis, excuse me. | ||
| Which one's Mathis? | ||
| Mathis is the one who's in Chicago. | ||
| And I don't know, he would argue with... | ||
| I don't know how to describe him. | ||
| He was fun. | ||
| I like Judge Mathis. | ||
| I want to say most of those were small claims. | ||
| They're really just opportunities for us to watch people who owe each other 50 bucks argue. | ||
| Sometimes a little bit more than that. | ||
| Also, there is a built-in thing where no matter what happens in the court, the show pays for everything. | ||
| It's basically like, do you want to be exploited a little bit and whatever problem they have with each other is resolved? | ||
| Listen, we'll fix your car, you make a TV show for us. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Which is... | ||
| But sometimes it was pretty fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I remember Mathis had a catchphrase. | ||
| People would say, come on, man. | ||
| He's like, I'm not your man, I'm your judge. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Oh, he's like that? | ||
| Oh, that's pretty great. | ||
| There was, like, Judge Mills Lane and Judge Judy, of course, the original, but I never liked her that much. | ||
| She had too much of her, like, character was being mean. | ||
| You know, like, that was so much of the brand that I found it difficult to really enjoy. | ||
| And then Judge Mills Lane, I was, you know, like, enjoying Celebrity Deathmatch? | ||
| What the fuck's going on here? | ||
| I couldn't handle it. | ||
| Animal Court was fun. | ||
| People's court was okay, but that's just kind of old person shit. | ||
| Doug Benson had a court show. | ||
| Yeah, but I think that's much later. | ||
| And I don't think he's a real judge. | ||
| I don't think he's a real judge either. | ||
| Wait, were all these people real judges? | ||
| I'm not sure about Mills Lane, but everyone else, yes, they were real judges. | ||
| That should have been our first... | ||
| But they might not have been active judges in office when the show was happening, but they were lawyers and practicing and had been a judge, at least. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| That should have been our first sign that all of these people are fucking insane, right? | ||
| Like, how many shows do we have? | ||
| How many... | ||
| If being a lawyer and a judge was a good, totally thing, right, it would be untelevisable. | ||
| A good judge should not be televisable. | ||
| But then everyone just accuses it of being secret justice being done, and no one wants to see how the sausage is made. | ||
| I mean more like it shouldn't be entertaining. | ||
| It should just be a person doing the thing, right? | ||
| It should be like the news. | ||
| It should be boring as shit. | ||
| It should be boring as shit! | ||
| And that there's more than one... | ||
| Judge with a personality. | ||
| So many. | ||
| Let's you know that every one of them is fucked up and needs to go. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| It is also a little bit unfortunate that it kind of implies that there's more money in doing a show like that than being a judge. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You know? | ||
| And I mean, it's a low rung of show business. | ||
| So that's still higher up than being a judge. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's sad. | ||
| Anyway, I watched a lot of those shows, and I never really liked Joe Brown, but I also didn't dislike him. | ||
| I thought he was fine. | ||
| Turns out he's a bigot. | ||
| Yeah, I never really got that sense from him, but maybe I wasn't really tracking it. | ||
| Maybe I wasn't paying attention for the signs. | ||
| It was the people who didn't get to go on the show that would have let you know about how bigoted he was. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I mean, there could be a lot of stuff on the cutting room floor. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| So anyway, he's on, and his big point is that gay people are a cult. | ||
| The whole LGBTQ... | ||
| It's all one big cult. | ||
| It's a fucking religious movement that's trying to take over the country. | ||
| Sounds right. | ||
| Quit thinking of this in terms of politics as usual. | ||
| It's almost like you can hear his mustache. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| And think about it. | ||
| There's a new religion trying to impose itself on the people. | ||
| A cult. | ||
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LGBTQIA+. | |
| It's a cult. | ||
| It's a religion. | ||
| But if I can give a little brief explanation. | ||
|
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Yes, sir. | |
| You got the floor. | ||
| We're going to break in 17 minutes. | ||
| You got the floor. | ||
| Okay, no aspersions cast on the religion that I was going to use as an example, but we know there's Christianity, there's Islam, there's Judaism, there's Hinduism, there's Buddhism. | ||
| Those are all five. | ||
| If you take the Buddhist, you'll notice there is no deity. | ||
| It's a system of philosophy, but it is entitled to the respect of a religion, and it's a historic one, it's an ancient one. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Slam dunk. | ||
| And these are new converts who are zealously attempting to force this new religion down everybody's throat and make it the official religion of the country. | ||
| If you go to an American building, government building, consulate, senate, or whatever, I'm not saying it. | ||
| Embassy, anywhere in the world. | ||
| No, no, you're right. | ||
| The Senate, too, has got the flags everywhere. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And it interrupted. | ||
| Just to interrupt, I'll let you take over. | ||
| But you just came out with a new project, Veritas, but now James O 'Keefe, with his program, that major corporations tell their employees, you can't wear crosses, and they're like, well, why is this LGBT festooned everywhere? | ||
| Because it's the religion. | ||
| Sorry, go ahead. | ||
| Yeah, well, yeah. | ||
| You can't have a nativity scene in City Hall or the courthouse, but you can have a rainbow flag hung from the 11th floor of a federal building in D.C. put up there by government employees, the sidewalks, crosswalks painted in rainbow. | ||
| How do you not see the difference between those two things? | ||
| You cannot put a cross under the American flag. | ||
| You can't put a crescent under it. | ||
| You can't put the multi-pointed Jewish star under it. | ||
| You can't put a Hindu emblem on it. | ||
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You can't put an image of Buddha under it. | |
| But you can put the rainbow according to what they're doing. | ||
| This is intensely dumb, but there are a couple points I'd like to make in response to that stupid clip. | ||
| Joe Brown has not really proven in any way that LGBTQ is a religion. | ||
| He's compared it to Buddhism in that there's not a central deity, but he's still got a long way to go. | ||
| Don't you remember when Liberace sat under the Bodhi tree for a couple of weeks and then came back with the like, hey, let's fix this thing, right? | ||
| Isn't that what happened? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or was it John Washington? | ||
| That's why the U.S. fell apart. | ||
| That's what happened. | ||
| That's what did it. | ||
| Because LGBTQ isn't a religion, having a rainbow flag up at a state capitol building is not in any way comparable to having religious iconography up. | ||
| The state sanctioning, respecting, and defending the rights of LGBTQ folk is not the same as the state supporting a particular religion over another. | ||
| This guy's a judge, so I know that he doesn't not understand this. | ||
| This is for show. | ||
| The other thought I had is how malleable all this stuff is depending on what the bigots need on any particular day. | ||
| What is helpful to scare their audience into marginalizing and hating the group they need them to hate? | ||
| That is the key. | ||
| In order to justify the indefensible transphobia and homophobia of their content and community, Alex and Joe need to turn LGBTQ into a religion. | ||
| They don't hate anyone. | ||
| They're just against the formation of this state cult that's using gay people and trans people to bring in their tyranny. | ||
| It's a Trojan horse that they're using. | ||
| But it wasn't so long ago, in fact just a few years, since Alex was primarily focused on hating Muslims. | ||
| The trans panic wasn't hot in his audience yet, so the prime scapegoat was Muslims and Islam. | ||
| However, he can't hate a religion. | ||
| That's just definitely outside the spirit of the freedom this country. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's what they did in that case, in order to make that hate and bigotry into something that's slightly more palatable and doesn't clearly offend the sensibilities of what freedom in America means. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they can do it both ways. | ||
| They can turn a group into a religion or turn a religion into not a religion. | ||
| We got you coming and going. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| These people are just awful shitheads. | ||
| There's nothing more to it. | ||
| I hate them. | ||
| I mean, it is kind of still taking, but it took a long time to get past the childlike view we have of occupations. | ||
| Like, doctor, lawyer, judge, smart people. | ||
| These are people who are smart. | ||
| And then bricklayer, somebody who's got a drug, all that stuff. | ||
| And the more you get out into the real world, the more you realize that doctors are... | ||
| Only good at knowing the thing that they know. | ||
| And when you ask them questions outside of that, it doesn't mean that their job makes them smart. | ||
| No. | ||
| What it means is that they were able to do their job. | ||
| Well, yeah, they were able to put in the amount of time, work, and effort that is required to be certified to do that job. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's what it says. | ||
| It is not a, like, oh, only a smart person could do this. | ||
| Some of it is intellectually grueling. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| But yeah, having a job in a field that is traditionally seen as intellectually based, that doesn't mean that you're smart in other areas. | ||
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No. | |
| But here's the problem. | ||
| Judge Joe Brown is talking about law shit. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's the thing that should be in his wheelhouse the most. | ||
| He understands this shit. | ||
| He thinks he's talking about religion and philosophy. | ||
| Well, but that's why he pivots it into that kind of stuff. | ||
| Because then he avoids the criticism of, like, you understand this shit. | ||
| You wrote. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| I'm not a fan. | ||
| So, Joe Brown, here, he gets cut off by a commercial break at a very fortunate or unfortunate time. | ||
| We are known as the land of the free and the home of the brave. | ||
| However imperfect we may be in the execution, we are trying. | ||
| We'll get there. | ||
| Are we? | ||
| But what we have right now is people who are not so brave, and they want to be protected because they do not perceive that they can do this themselves. | ||
| So when you have people who are so fearful that they are willing to give up their freedom in exchange for safety, you have a problem. | ||
| Now, if you analyze the 20th century, probably the most safe place for anybody outside of being in disfaith or, say, Jewish or a gypsy, was Nazi Germany in the early 30s. | ||
| They had probably the lowest crime rate of any society. | ||
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Tehibo Tea Club's original Pure Patti Arco Super Tea come from the only tree in the world that fungles. | |
| Oh boy. | ||
| Tough to listen to that on the radio and be like, I wonder how that thought ended. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You know, I assumed he was just going to go with an anti-LGBTQ plus slur, but no, no, we went all the way to Nazi Germany, huh? | ||
| So when Alex said, you have the floor, you have 17 minutes, that's because he was just going to skip these other radio breaks. | ||
| So this is not 17 minutes later. | ||
| This is pretty close to where we were. | ||
| But yeah, there's a couple of things in there, I think, that he's playing fast and loose with, and stuff that I kind of don't quite grasp his point on. | ||
| Even having listened to the rest of this, I still don't understand some of the points. | ||
| But when you're talking about the giving up freedom for safety or whatever, he's talking about things like civil rights. | ||
| Well, is he talking about... | ||
| Is he talking about us giving up our freedom to hate gay people in return for... | ||
| Society's ability to... | ||
| No, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| In return for safety. | ||
| Yeah, but the safety is like, you know, you... | ||
| You can't be turned down to rent an apartment because you're gay. | ||
| You can't be turned down for a job solely because you're gay. | ||
| Those kinds of protections is what he's talking about, essentially. | ||
| See, because I keep getting it backwards. | ||
| I'm not sure, because the idea of the people trade their... | ||
| Also, the LGBTQ folks had a real tough time in Nazi Germany. | ||
| I mean, don't even... | ||
| I don't know what he's talking about. | ||
| I don't know what in God's name he believes that he is talking about, but... | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not a lot of crime. | ||
| I mean, you know, let's put it this way. | ||
| When your entire government is a crime, everything's a crime. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| It's an interesting point. | ||
| I'm sorry, I cut you off, though. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Not worth it. | ||
| Well, Joe Brown sucks, and he got cut off by that commercial, but I went and I found what he was talking about during the commercial. | ||
| So here he is, during that commercial, comparing gay people to Nazis. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Now, if you analyze the 20th century, probably the most safe place for anybody outside of being in this faith or, say, Jewish or a gypsy was Nazi Germany in the early 30s. | ||
| They had probably the lowest crime rate of any society in the Western world. | ||
| At that point. | ||
| But there were some severe problems with surrendering your personal liberty to some autocrats. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| And we have that same thing right now. | ||
| Whereas in one instance, it was the National Socialist Workers' Party that we know historically by its acronym, NAZI. | ||
| Are you doing this to fuck with us? | ||
| We now have the rainbow. | ||
| We all know Nazis. | ||
| What the fuck are you doing? | ||
| And they are slowly but surely divesting the country of the rights and protections that we have to ensure... | ||
| Name one fucking right that's been taken. | ||
| They have the freedom... | ||
| Lying piece of shit. | ||
| to speak out and exercise their First Amendment rights, but we have to suffer the collateral consequences of the fallout. | ||
| They control the media now. | ||
| The rainbow. | ||
| And there is an old thing that the National Socialist Workers Party, a.k.a. | ||
| Nazis, Spell it. | ||
| Long ago. | ||
| You tell a lie long enough. | ||
| Often it's... | ||
| Now, if you can get anyone, including the liar, to believe it. | ||
| So we have this spread over and over and over and over again. | ||
| So one of the things that I can't really suss out, and he never speaks plainly about, so I don't really know, but it seems to me that the lie he's talking about is that gay people exist. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Or trans people exist. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| That's the big lie that is being told over and over again, much like the Nazis' strategy. | ||
| This is, um, I mean, look, obviously this kind of thing isn't illegal because you're doing it. | ||
| It's just that people are going to speak back up and tell you you suck and voice opposition to your antiquated and childish views. | ||
| In my entire life, I have been told so many different groups. | ||
| Run the media. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I've been told so many different marginalized groups actually are running the media. | ||
| I have almost never been told that straight white men are running the media, and they have been doing it since the media existed. | ||
| I'm so baffled by this. | ||
| I don't know how much I've heard the LGBTQ community is running the media. | ||
| I can't believe that. | ||
| I mean, I think there was during whenever we were doing trying to get gay marriage. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| There was tons of like, oh, why do you see so much positive coverage? | ||
| Because they control the media, the agenda. | ||
| I can see the complaint, in heavy quotes, from people like Joe Brown being like, there is a preferable or a positive presentation of LGBTQ folk in the media, generally speaking. | ||
| And if he wants to be mad about that, I guess he just wants media that's hostile. | ||
| Towards gay people and friends people. | ||
| I mean, fine. | ||
| You're on such an outlet right now, so great. | ||
| InfoWars is what you want. | ||
| It exists. | ||
| Okay, here's what Joe Brown's saying. | ||
| I liked it better whenever I was young and my stuff worked. | ||
| So either die or stop hurting people just because you don't want to be living in a world that's not for you anymore. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The media, his critique of it being positive towards gay people, or LGBTQ folk in general, is a reflection that society is more accepting. | ||
| In the 60s, when I was a kid and fucking people a lot, I was a lot happier, and on TV, there was a lot more abuse directed towards marginalized groups. | ||
| And we ignored it! | ||
| And we didn't give a fuck! | ||
| And now I can't fuck, and all these people are fucking, and I'm mad! | ||
| And people are making me aware of the behaviors that I engage in and profit from that are directly related to the fucking over of these marginalized people, and I'm kind of tired of that. | ||
| So I think you should shut up, and my freedoms are being taken away. | ||
| Well, I mean, yeah, because the conversation is this. | ||
| You know that what you're doing hurts people, and either you can say, I'm cool with that, or I'm not cool with that. | ||
| There's no middle ground there. | ||
| So eventually, if you're going to keep hurting people, you have to say, I'm cool with that. | ||
| And that's a tough thing to say out loud to another human being who's maybe getting killed right now. | ||
| It's kind of what he's saying. | ||
| It is pretty much what he's saying. | ||
| It flies with Alex. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So anyway, the idea of insurrection is being implanted in our heads. | ||
| So this is another idea of Judge Joe Brown. | ||
| He's got bad ideas. | ||
| He does! | ||
| The writ of habeas corpus in the Constitution cannot be suspended except for two things. | ||
| One, invasion. | ||
| Two, Insurrection. | ||
| Have you noticed the way that the press has been throwing the word insurrection out? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They've been using January 6th. | ||
| They've been saying we have an insurrection. | ||
| They're trying to bring in a civil emergency. | ||
| Yeah, all of the insurrection. | ||
| So what they're doing is acclimating the public to thinking about any kind of unapproved protest as being an insurrection, which it is not. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah, and you're totally right. | ||
| Like, they were screaming about Trump invoking the Insurrection Act. | ||
| And, like, half of Stuart Rhodes' plan involved, like, maybe Trump will make us the military. | ||
| No, that's a 10-yard penalty. | ||
| He's got to shut up. | ||
| Somebody slap him. | ||
| No, how dare you? | ||
| It's offensive. | ||
| You cannot... | ||
| Call for an insurrection, then do one, and then complain that people are saying the word now. | ||
| They're trying to implant it in our heads so they can get rid of habeas corpus. | ||
| Nope, nope, nope, nope. | ||
| But here's the next thing. | ||
| Why? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What is it that they achieve then? | ||
| What is the next step? | ||
| This is what I'm saying. | ||
| This is addict shit. | ||
| This is the type of like, okay, I'm going to pawn my mom's TV for 25 bucks, and you're not going to think, well, what happens next? | ||
| You're just going, I want that 25 bucks to buy drugs with. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, look, that was kind of a side thought. | ||
| Yeah, and legitimately, mostly, this is just LGBTQ bashing, and we'll get back to that here. | ||
| How would you describe this battle? | ||
| Is humanity winning? | ||
| Is the bad guys winning? | ||
| What's happening? | ||
| Well, we are being shown that we have a common enemy, those who are against the traditional nuclear family, decency, morality, ethics, and good governance. | ||
| Black, white, brown, red, yellow, we can all come together to impose this new imposition of a modern secular religion that threatens the very thing that allowed them to arise in this country. | ||
| So we have to protect our system at all costs, and we need to turn everybody out of office who supports this. | ||
| So what you're saying is we have a corporate, it's funded by the corporations, weird sex cult trying to take over society. | ||
| They want a religion for control that's been corporately rolled out. | ||
| It's all MI6 CIA mentally prepared. | ||
| And we're seeing a rejection of it. | ||
| You're saying you believe that people are rejecting it or you think we're starting to win? | ||
| I think they went wrong with the transsexual involvement where people see. | ||
| What is happening to women in sports? | ||
| You don't give a fuck. | ||
| Fucking fuck you. | ||
| Now, if you understand what he's saying, Judge Joe Brown is legit calling for society to come together in order to expel LGBTQ folk. | ||
| Take everybody who supports gay rights, LGBTQ rights as a whole, throw them out of office. | ||
| And here's the thing. | ||
| He's going to try and hide behind some kind of a thing later on in the interview. | ||
| I'm not sure if I have a clip of it. | ||
| But he says, like, oh, I met a gay guy who is totally against the LGBTQ stuff. | ||
| And I thought I was being trolled, but he was serious. | ||
| And it's like, okay, so now let's delineate this. | ||
| How do you distinguish between somebody who's into the LGBTQ stuff and just someone who is gay or is trans? | ||
| What is it? | ||
| How do you determine it? | ||
| It's just if they're gay or lesbian or trans or bi or queer. | ||
| Yeah, I'm struggling to find a way to contextualize this that isn't Joe Brown throwing out fighting words and I don't give a shit if I trip him and he falls and breaks his nose. | ||
| It is essentially... | ||
| He declared all LGBTQ people our enemy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he's my enemy. | ||
| Fuck him. | ||
| That's the... | ||
| Not Undertown. | ||
| That is what he said. | ||
| No, that's what he said. | ||
| He declared all LGBT. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, fuck you. | ||
| Here's what I like about this. | ||
| Here's what I do like about this. | ||
| All right? | ||
| I like whenever a man draws clear battle lines. | ||
| But he's still speaking in this mealy-mouthed bullshit. | ||
| He said it. | ||
| He said they are our enemy. | ||
| He's done. | ||
| So he has given the orders for a complete open fight. | ||
| It is now an open battle with Judge Joe Brown. | ||
| But it's still... | ||
| The problem that I have, and I mean, I'm not disagreeing with you, but the problem that I have is that he still has this... | ||
| He's pretending to draw a line between the cult and just, you know, everyday gay, lesbian people, trans people going about their lives. | ||
| You know, and it's bullshit. | ||
| He's pretending that it's like, oh, I'm fighting against this satanic cult that's trying to take over the government. | ||
| But in actuality, you're just mad at LGBTQ folks who are trying to live their lives. | ||
| And you can tell because this is not a fucking serious person. | ||
| But see, this is absurd. | ||
| And frankly, I get mad because it destroyed my favorite sport, girl watching. | ||
| And I know some grown women that say they used to love to do boy watching, but you can't because you don't know what you're looking at. | ||
| See, they're doing something very bad. | ||
| See, this joking fuck and Alex's drunk ass talking about subjects that are essentially about extermination and elimination of LGBTQ people, at least from public spaces, if not from the entirety of our society. | ||
| It's so fucking irresponsible, and it's just... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't have strong enough words. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I think what we've... | ||
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Done. | |
| For the longest time. | ||
| Is not actually learn anything. | ||
| From. | ||
| From. | ||
| Nazi Germany. | ||
| Well, he doesn't even bring up LGBTQ people as having it tough in Nazi Germany. | ||
| I know. | ||
| We just can't process the idea. | ||
| Because every time we've all been like, oh, how can people just do this? | ||
| How could people put Jews into the ovens? | ||
| How could they do that? | ||
| And that is all going on while in the middle of people fucking throwing black people into dogs and letting them... | ||
| This is all happening simultaneously. | ||
| And we're all... | ||
| How could the Germans act so fucking crazy? | ||
| And it's like, this is happening concurrently with you confused as to why it's happening. | ||
| It is happening because this is what people want to do. | ||
| And Judge Joe Brown will think it's cute to be like, I can't girl watch anymore because I'm worried that it's a trans person. | ||
| That's my favorite sport is girl watching. | ||
| I appreciate a man who will out and out say, you are my enemy, and that's that. | ||
| Because if I meet Judge Joe Brown, I'm going to beat the shit out of Judge Joe Brown. | ||
| He is my enemy. | ||
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He said it, not me. | |
| He's the one who started it. | ||
| And this anger, like, it's just... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's not a serious person. | ||
| He's a judge, but he's not serious. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| No, but that's because the law isn't serious. | ||
| That's because these are things that are created specifically to allow people to do shit like this. | ||
| Well, I mean, the law is a system. | ||
| It is essentially a language. | ||
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Sure. | |
| So you can learn that language more easily than you can engage with... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Easily... | ||
| Difficult, you know, it's a variable. | ||
| But there is a language that you can concretely engage with, as opposed to something that's more abstract, like some of the humanities and stuff. | ||
| And maybe Joe Brown just doesn't have a whole lot of understanding about people. | ||
| Anyway, fuck him. | ||
| Fuck him. | ||
| Anyway, here's another dumb clip of him being dumb. | ||
| This is one thing. | ||
| Probably the hardest thing a normal adult has in their entire lives is consistently being able to deal with and accommodate the opposite sex. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| So what happens is they tell these kids, you don't have to do that. | ||
| You can take the easy way. | ||
| You can deal with same sex. | ||
| So you knock out... | ||
| Yeah, they're fundamentally screwing up the human system. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is this dude working on his new half hour? | ||
| Like, are these just bits he's doing? | ||
| Because this sucks. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Dude, do you remember The Dark Knight? | ||
| That scene where the Joker shows... | ||
| Never mind, he's got a magic trick. | ||
| So, like, Joe Brown must be so... | ||
| Like, he must be opposed to all same-sex relationships then? | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Like, that's what it seems? | ||
| Also, it's cute that he thinks that romantic relationships between same-sex couples are so simple and easy. | ||
| What a fucking loser. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Does he think that men are deciding to be gay because it would be easier than dealing with women? | ||
| Yes, that is what he's saying. | ||
| This is a comically childish understanding of how attractive... | ||
| Oh, not for nothing, maybe Joe is bringing his own baggage into this. | ||
| He's twice divorced and was arrested in 2014 for contempt of court during a child support hearing. | ||
| He did five days in jail, and when he got out, he compared himself to Nelson Mandela, which made a lot of people think that the whole thing was a publicity stunt, since he was involved in a very unpopular run for district attorney at the time, and he needed the press. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| He's essentially in a position where he gave up his ability to practice law by placing himself on the disability inactive list rather than face a disciplinary hearing where he would almost certainly have been disbarred. | ||
| That case is still on hold, and he'll have to face it if he's not. | ||
| he ever comes off that inactive list so he's basically just like a voluntarily disbarred person yeah also he's running for mayor of memphis currently and even with the name recognition of being a very famous tv judge he's polling really low and there's about zero chance he's going to win that good this dude is just a straight up pile of shit yeah i never liked his show judge mass that this was way better and he seems like a miserable hate-filled person thus it's no surprise that he and drunk-ass alex are hitting it off so well yeah talking about their hatred of uh | ||
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lgbtq folk yeah yeah yeah i i I don't know if there's anything more, like, straight up just, you're no longer supposed to live in our world than being like, they ruined my favorite sport, girl watch it. | |
| Like, no. | ||
| Get the fuck out. | ||
| Out. | ||
| Out. | ||
| That is such an alarming formulation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it's like, are you joking? | ||
| No, he's not joking. | ||
| What's funny about it is that he's not joking. | ||
| But does he think it's funny that his favorite sport is girl watching? | ||
| Like, does he think it's cute? | ||
| No. | ||
| He thinks it's funny that he gets to say it to you and you have to act like he doesn't mean it. | ||
| Yeah, that may be. | ||
| That's what's funny. | ||
| That's why it's so funny whenever these people are like, I'd kill you or whatever it is. | ||
| It's a bad bit. | ||
| Yeah, it's a bad bit. | ||
| So we have one last clip here from their discussion. | ||
| Russia has had a man-up program for the last five years. | ||
| The People's Republic of China, two years ago in January, came up with an official man-up program. | ||
| So the Russians were manning up, the Chinese are manning up. | ||
| In fact, all this LGBTQ stuff is outlawed in those countries, basically, especially China. | ||
| And what are we doing? | ||
| Pushing it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, see, this is our collateral damage to our system. | ||
| They have a right to advocate doing it, but we have a right to oppose it. | ||
| So what they're trying to do is strip our right to oppose it. | ||
| So they use the system for purposes that are... | ||
| Way of doing things would not allow them to get because they could not convince the public that it's just a way to go, to give up boys and girls 101A and give up girl watching and boy watching. | ||
| Judge, the time goes by so fast, we're almost out of time. | ||
| I mean, like... | ||
| Go to Russia. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I can't live with these people anymore. | ||
| It's fascinating that he's so bent out of shape about this idea that he's not allowed to hate gay people when he's on a completely anti-LGBTQ platform, a violently anti-LGBTQ program in the form of Infowars. | ||
| They're having this conversation openly. | ||
| He has the ability to run for the fucking mayor of Memphis position and no one's stopping him. | ||
| He can say whatever the fuck he wants. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| Everyone else can say the same shit that they want in opposition to you. | ||
| And unfortunately, more people are against you. | ||
| You fuck. | ||
| Because your views are outdated. | ||
| They're awful and they don't... | ||
| They don't match up well with the actual idea of freedom and liberty. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's a problem for you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The outdated thing, I'm starting to think that we should never have views associated with date whatsoever, you know? | ||
| Because it's outdated in everywhere, and yet it's the law of most of the world to hate gay people. | ||
| Yeah, I guess I have a very sort of... | ||
| I guess maybe US-centric idea there. | ||
| And then even that isn't totally fair. | ||
| No. | ||
| And as we know from fads, things are cyclical. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I mean, 20 years ago, everybody's screaming at me for saying that we love it or leave it! | ||
| Right. | ||
| 20 years later, everybody's like, ah, we should be more like evil. | ||
| 20 years from now, everybody's going to be like, ah, it's on fire! | ||
| I just, I find it difficult to hear, you know, people... | ||
| Like, just directly saying, China and Russia outlaw LGBTQ existence, and that's good. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I never thought I was going to hear that. | ||
| I genuinely never did. | ||
| Not even from Alex. | ||
| I mean, we've heard Alex love China for killing gay people in the past. | ||
| Yeah, and I think that you could imagine he thought that. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But the fact of saying it is pretty... | ||
| You guys are supposed to be jingoistic douchebags. | ||
| And you're supposed to be crypto about a lot of this stuff. | ||
| And it turns out there's no punishment for just speaking freely and saying your horrible shit out loud. | ||
| And it should be... | ||
| And that's kind of a repudiation of the things that Joe Brown is saying. | ||
| I keep almost calling him Joe Biden. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the thing about it that is front and center in my mind is that... | ||
| It is more popular to not want to kill people who are different from you. | ||
| True. | ||
| But it doesn't matter. | ||
| A small number of people can make kill the gay people the law of the land. | ||
| That can be done. | ||
| Yeah, and it's a lesson that he is invoking of Nazi Germany. | ||
| Of Nazi Germany, of Russia, of China, of these... | ||
| If you are a person, look at the leaders and you'll find out you're fucked. | ||
| But that's why he wants to make this sort of an issue that he can legislate. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| And turn it into a thing where the state... | ||
| Can fight the battle for him, as opposed to recognizing that people do not agree with you, and you are the exception, not the rule. | ||
| I mean, there's still people in jail for marijuana possession. | ||
| True. | ||
| Like, I don't think we should have other laws written until we figure out why it is that it can be legal, and yet we still have to keep people in prison. | ||
| Never mind, I forgot. | ||
| Slavery's legal. | ||
| Yeah, never mind. | ||
| I have one more clip, but I'm not going to play it because it's not actually that interesting. | ||
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And it's breaking news. | |
| So Russell Brand, there were those allegations of his rape and sexual assault of people. | ||
| And so obviously that's trouble. | ||
| And Alex thinks it's all a fake. | ||
| And so he recorded a video of himself at the airport. | ||
| Alex? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Recorded his own reaction video. | ||
| Yes, in the airport. | ||
| In the Austin airport. | ||
| I assume it's in Austin Bergstrom. | ||
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Sure. | |
| He is just standing in the area where you sit and wait for boarding. | ||
| Just a video of himself talking about how Russell Brand is being set up. | ||
| So the only thing I really... | ||
| I mean, obviously, of course that's what he's going to say. | ||
| His take is predictable and meaningless. | ||
| But I think he's going to Hawaii. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Yeah, I think, because he's at the airport. | ||
| He's going somewhere. | ||
| He is at the airport, so he's proud. | ||
| The only other thing I could imagine is that he has to go somewhere for a deposition or some sort of legal case. | ||
| But I'm guessing Hawaii. | ||
| God, he shouldn't be allowed to go to Hawaii. | ||
| Well, it's for work. | ||
| I genuinely believe. | ||
| He's got to uncover the conspiracy behind the Lahaina fires. | ||
| The governor of Hawaii should literally be like, Alex can't come. | ||
| Alex can't come. | ||
| Is that a rule that the governor can make? | ||
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I think so. | |
| I think Alex should support that. | ||
| States' rights. | ||
| Yeah, states' rights. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex Jones cannot get off that. | ||
| You can fly. | ||
| You can land. | ||
| You can enjoy our beautiful airport. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can never go out onto the real Hawaii. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can look at it from the airport. | ||
| Oh, look at it through the window. | ||
| Isn't it so beautiful? | ||
| You don't get to enjoy it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, that's the breaking news is that Alex is at an airport probably going to Hawaii and decided that he had to... | ||
| Preemptively, before any of the actual information and the evidence that's laid out in this expose, before any of that came out, he had to do damage control preemptively because Russell Brand agrees with some of the stuff that he says. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| So, fuck both of them, too. | ||
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Yup. | |
| Anyway, let's get out of this country. | ||
| Let's get out of this fucking country! | ||
| I need a break. | ||
| Yeah, let's go have fun! | ||
| I'll try. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let's have a little breaky from America, and by the time... | ||
| I was going to say the next time the audience sees us, we'll be in Glasgow, but that's not true. | ||
| We'll be in the past, because we recorded an episode that you'll hear next before we recorded this one. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, Jordan, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep, we're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Yep, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
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I was trying to go for more of a theremin there. | |
| I was hearing theremin. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller. | |
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |