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July 12, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
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#827: July 9, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan reflect on Sunday's episode of Alex's show.  In this installment, Alex celebrates the success of The Sound of Freedom and waxes poetic about fish nibbling on his feet at the creek.

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Main voices
a
alex jones
19:40
d
dan friesen
33:59
j
jordan holmes
17:17
Appearances
Clips
p
pastor david manning
00:02
s
steve quayle
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
unidentified
Dan?
dan friesen
Jordan!
jordan holmes
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan!
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
Jordan, I think that today is a monumental day.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And that I think that today is the first time in hundreds of episodes, perhaps.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
I was going to say years.
dan friesen
No, our bright spot, I think, is the same.
unidentified
Oh yeah?
dan friesen
I think we have a unified right spot.
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
Well, Dan, my bright spot is, I don't know if you recall, but we are going to the United Kingdom.
dan friesen
I do recall, as do the passport people who need to process my shit real fast.
Real fast.
jordan holmes
Well, you know, we figured since people wanted us to do something while we were there, we decided to do a show.
dan friesen
Yeah, we got some positive feedback from folks in the UK who wanted us to some hostel, some less so.
Some inviting and some really antagonistic.
jordan holmes
There were some that were very threatening.
dan friesen
Yeah, especially to you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But there was a lot of desire within the threat.
So I appreciate that.
You know, love and desire and hate are all wrapped up in one.
dan friesen
They are very similar emotions in that they are powerful.
jordan holmes
So yeah, so I'm putting together some venues.
And the good news is we have finally got one to...
Give us an actual goddamn date.
dan friesen
We have nailed down a show.
jordan holmes
We have one show right now.
I am working on more.
dan friesen
Do we want to reveal?
I mean, we don't have to reveal the venue necessarily, but we can say where we're going.
jordan holmes
We will be in Glasgow.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's right, Scotland.
We're coming for you.
jordan holmes
We're coming to you.
dan friesen
That's right.
jordan holmes
And I will say this.
dan friesen
I'm calling out Drew McIntyre.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Let's do it.
jordan holmes
Tickets will go on sale Friday morning at 9. I don't know.
dan friesen
On our next episode, we might talk a little bit more about that, because we'll have an episode for Friday.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And so, like, maybe some more of those specifics.
Let's tease this thread out.
unidentified
I understand.
dan friesen
Just let the people of Glasgow know we're going to be there.
jordan holmes
We are going to be there.
dan friesen
We're going to be hanging out.
jordan holmes
I feel so weird about that.
Like, here's the thing about...
No, no, no.
I'm so excited about that.
I feel weird about saying that they go on sale at an hour, right?
There's a lot of ego built in there.
You know, like, our last show sold out, and that's very, very cool, but we can't expect that to happen every time.
dan friesen
No, especially not in another country.
jordan holmes
Absolutely!
dan friesen
I mean, I know from the buttons and from responses that I've seen, you know, emails and what have you, there are, you know, a fair amount of listeners in the UK and what have you, but yeah, it would be presumptuous to imagine that, like, it's gonna sell out, period?
jordan holmes
Totally!
dan friesen
Or that it's gonna immediately.
jordan holmes
No, and that's the only reason.
It's because I'm worried that it will and then people won't do it.
Last time we were like, okay, let's sell these.
Then it sold out and we were like, oh shit.
I don't even know if people got to see it.
dan friesen
Well, ideally, if possible, we would be open to having some other shows in the UK.
jordan holmes
That's the plan.
dan friesen
But one of the issues we've run into is that booking venues is kind of difficult.
So if anybody in there has some venues, send them to Jordan.
Send an email to knowledgefightatgmail.com and Jordan will vet some stuff and see if he can find some other places.
Maybe a London...
Maybe a London show?
Maybe a Bristol?
Maybe a someplace that ends in Shire?
jordan holmes
We've got to go to a Shire.
Absolutely.
We've got to go to a Ham.
We've got to go to a Shire.
dan friesen
I've got to go find where...
I've got to go to London because I've got to go find out where Bertie Wooster would hang out.
I've got to go find the Junior Ganymede.
No, wait.
That's the club that Jeeves would go to.
I've got to go to the Drones Club.
That's where Birdie and his friends like Cats Meet Potter Pierbright would hang out.
jordan holmes
God, that was so good.
dan friesen
The best.
jordan holmes
Those are so good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that's the bright spot.
dan friesen
We'll be doing a live show at the Drones Club.
jordan holmes
We're going to be doing a live show at the Drones Club with Wooster.
We're going to be doing it with fictional characters from other...
Terry Pratchett novels.
We're going to do it with fictional characters from there.
dan friesen
Bingo Little will be there.
Trying to think of other birdie Wooster characters.
But yeah.
That guy who looks like a newt.
I forget his name.
Damn it.
Why can't I come up with his name?
jordan holmes
I'm not a name guy.
dan friesen
I'm very ashamed.
jordan holmes
I'm not names.
You've got the memory.
I have none.
dan friesen
Well, I have Cats Meet Potter Pierbright.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
And Bingo Little.
jordan holmes
I got no names in my head.
None.
None in there.
dan friesen
And then he had a friend named Stiffy, but I don't remember what...
I think that might have been a lady.
I don't remember what her last name is.
Anyway, we'll be in the UK, and if you have some venue suggestions, let Jordan know and Bing Bong.
jordan holmes
It would be nice.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today, not nice.
We're in the present day.
We're going to be talking about some Alex-y business from the present.
We're going to be talking about the 9th, July 9th, 2023.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
That was Sunday's.
jordan holmes
That was Sunday's.
dan friesen
Sunday's show.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How's he doing?
dan friesen
I will say this.
He claims to be in a good mood.
jordan holmes
Alright, alright.
dan friesen
That might mean he's done some blow.
jordan holmes
I'm interested to see where this goes.
dan friesen
It's a little speedy.
It spends a fair amount of time talking about how he went to the creek the other day.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So there's that.
jordan holmes
All right.
So he's three days away from retirement, kind of.
dan friesen
Also some other bullshit mixed in, but a lot of talk about the creek.
unidentified
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
And we'll get to it here in a minute, Jordan.
But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, welcome to the world, Cooper J. So, Paul, now let's see how long it takes Dan to get to this.
Just did.
unidentified
Ha ha.
dan friesen
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
The just did part was my editorializing.
Next, the plea deal for crimes committed on January 6th by one J. Owen Troyer, offered by the State Department of Justice in exchange for cooperation.
Yes, that is happening.
Oh boy.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Number one, it's Troyer.
Number two...
I wouldn't be too thrilled about that cooperation.
jordan holmes
Don't get too excited.
dan friesen
Next, kicking off 2023 as a new wonk.
Thank you so much.
unidentified
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Next, Jordan, you put this in twice.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm sorry.
dan friesen
So I'm not going to say this twice.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Unless that was intentional.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
But thank you so much, too.
I regularly put on my best Alex Jones voice and grunt, I love you, at my wife, and yet somehow we're still married.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
No, that was an accident.
dan friesen
Okay.
Hit paste twice.
jordan holmes
Copy and paste is a very dangerous tool.
dan friesen
And so we got a technocrat also in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to Juicier77 from Tony Ortega's Underground Bunker.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
He's a loser little titty baby.
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
And I'll find those other technocrat drops eventually.
I keep meaning to, and then I forget until I turn to the computer to say, you are now a technocrat, and then I remember, oh, I meant to look for that.
I forget.
Write a little note to myself.
So, I don't know, do you remember where we left off in terms of whether the world was doomed or if the Patriots are winning?
jordan holmes
I thought the world was doomed last time.
dan friesen
Okay, good, because that's what I remember as well.
Okay.
unidentified
However...
jordan holmes
They're winning now?
alex jones
Well, I tend to get a little bummed out here on air, a little pessimistic and upset, because a lot of innocent people are being fed into satanic meat grinders in a thousand different ways.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Every day, conservatively.
But in the main, evil is in a lot of trouble.
And the Great Awakening is undoubtedly here now.
dan friesen
Bad guys are in trouble.
Maybe that's not a full-throated endorsement that we're winning, but it doesn't feel the same doomy as he was on our last time we've checked in with him.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
It does feel like the counter-offensive against the devil is underway.
dan friesen
And it's effective.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so far.
dan friesen
And it's working.
jordan holmes
You know what?
Maybe it's not moving as fast as we'd like it to.
But it is working.
dan friesen
Well, I think maybe a part of that is that the media has been...
A flutter about a singular topic.
And this always excites Alex.
Whenever there's something Patriot-y that is like what everybody's talking about.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so he's got one of those.
Do you know?
Could you guess what that is?
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
No idea.
dan friesen
What if I were to tell you it's a movie?
jordan holmes
Oh my god, it's that movie where there's a child trafficker with Jim fucking Caviezel, isn't it?
dan friesen
God damn it!
jordan holmes
God damn it!
dan friesen
Yep, everybody's excited about this, and that means that Alex is excited about this, and that means he needs to apologize that he hasn't talked about it already.
alex jones
Joe, I'll be completely honest with you.
I don't really pay attention to Hollywood.
Even the Christian Hollywood that's taking over and is successful while the old satanic Hollywood's dying.
So I had not really paid any attention to the sound of freedom.
I like Mel Gibson a lot.
I mean, you talk about, he's not some Johnny come lately to fight in the New World Order.
He's been aware of it since he was a kid.
I'm friends with his dad, Hutton, who's an expert on the New World Order before I was born.
But, and I like Caviezel and all that, but I just, I thought it was a fiction movie.
I did a bunch of research this weekend when it hit number one, and I was like, wow, this is a true story?
unidentified
Is it?
alex jones
So I kind of feel not dumb.
I'm usually way ahead of the curve, except when you're so far ahead of the curve, you kind of already know all this stuff.
You think, well, what's Hollywood, even if it's Christian Hollywood, going to show me?
I mean, the UN has kidnapped hundreds of thousands of women and children we know of and put them in sex slavery.
And it used to be all over the news.
London Guardian, Associated Press, until about ten years ago.
dan friesen
Hundreds of thousands.
jordan holmes
Does the UN have people...
dan friesen
No.
Alex is referring to a headline that he goes back to over and over again throughout the years, and that is about UN peacekeepers who did abuse children in countries like Haiti.
And one of the issues that, if you actually read these articles, one of the issues that they have with dealing with these problems is that the UN doesn't have jurisdiction over these peacekeepers.
The country of origin, where they came from, has the ability to prosecute them for these things.
And some of these countries don't do that.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So it's a big mess.
But Alex, he takes that and he's like, hundreds of thousands of people are kidnapped.
It's a lot of ballyhoo.
jordan holmes
I did not know that.
dan friesen
I'm getting into the British slang.
jordan holmes
We might as well start.
I didn't...
alex jones
Bosh!
jordan holmes
I didn't know that.
But that, to me, is the biggest, like...
Why do you think the UN has any power at all?
The UN peacekeepers don't even answer to the UN!
dan friesen
Well, the UN has all that power because they've kidnapped hundreds of thousands of people.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you can't even...
Your peacekeepers are not keeping the peace and you can't even be like, hey, stop that.
You have to send them to a country where they're like, that's fine.
That's not okay.
That's not even a UN!
dan friesen
That's not United Nations!
So I'm not going to get into the stuff about the movie too deeply, because I think it's been covered pretty heavily elsewhere, and I think the folks who have done the work on this story have done a really good job, and there's not a lot more that I can bring to the table.
Essentially, there's this new movie called The Sound of Freedom, which purports to tell the true story of a guy named Tim Ballard, who runs a traffic children rescue group called Operation Underground Railroad.
The film is definitely not an accurate depiction of a true story, but the reality is that Tim and O-U-R has a real issue with accuracy and has for a long time.
Anna Merlin has done a lot of work on this particular case for years, and you can find articles on Vice laying out a lot of the holes in these people's stories.
One of the more damning stories is about a trafficking survivor who's referred to by the pseudonym Liliana.
Without getting into too many details, Liliana was a 14-year-old in Mexico who was He used that relationship style of grooming to lure her to come to the U.S. where she was kept in an apartment and forced into sex work.
After approximately three and a half years, Liliana escaped based on her own will to get out.
However, Tim Ballard and OUR have told a different version of this story where they claim that Liliana was kidnapped and they, quote, helped her escape her hell.
He would go on to tell various versions of this story with so many details exaggerated.
There are many, many instances one could point to to illustrate dishonesty on the part of Ballard, but there isn't anything that I find as clear as this case.
To make matters even worse, he used Liliana's story for political purposes in his advocacy for building a border wall.
If you ever make a move like this, you're disqualified.
I understand mixing up some details of some stories every now and again, and I even understand fudging stuff when you're trying to turn a real-life event into a movie, and I wouldn't be overly critical of things like that, especially when it comes to making the movie.
There's probably studio involvement.
jordan holmes
I mean, just condensing characters into one thing.
It makes sense narratively, as long as you're not fucking up with it.
dan friesen
Some levels of creative license and what have you happen in movies.
But when you misrepresent yourself as having helped a young girl escape her hell when she was the one who got herself out and you didn't even meet her until years later, you're a fucking monster.
You're willfully and knowingly trying to exploit the horrific things that these people live through so you can turn them into your own hero stories.
You're using their trauma as fuel to be the thing that you save people from.
It's fucked up.
That's kind of what I think about this guy and this movie.
It's bullshit and it ultimately...
It definitely does a complete disservice to the organizations that are involved in the work of actually helping trafficking victims.
And so this can all fuck off.
But Alex is really excited because everyone's talking about it and it fits nicely into his slick action movie version of saving kids from predators and stuff.
jordan holmes
Do you know, I didn't read anything about it beyond like it's based on a true story and I was like, well, it's clearly not.
Sure.
But the first thing that I thought was...
That was Jimmy James in news radio singing, Sound of Freedom, Sound of Freedom, Sound of Freedom.
dan friesen
I don't remember that.
jordan holmes
You don't remember?
That was whenever he was going through the junk box and he grabs the thing and he's like, this is from the Sound of Music.
You remember?
Sound of Music, Sound of Music.
dan friesen
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
So that's what was in my head.
dan friesen
All right.
Well.
jordan holmes
That's my ad.
dan friesen
I think your experience of it is probably better than if you were to watch the movie.
jordan holmes
I think everybody will enjoy it more.
dan friesen
Yeah, I was thinking about watching it and getting into it or whatever, but I think some other folks have done it.
I know QAnon Anonymous has an episode where they talk about it, and I think Anna's interviewed on that even.
These articles about that group go back years.
It's not just about this movie.
This is a group that has had credibility issues for quite a while.
And feels a bit scammy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah!
Yeah!
On account of all the lies and the making money from it.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex is pretty excited about that.
But he's also excited about other things.
Like some of his friends becoming friends with other of his friends.
alex jones
Roger Stone was on the show tomorrow.
He hung out with Trump.
And Bill Gibson and Roger Stone was also hanging out with Joe Rogan.
So that's a good thing.
So those guys are all together.
The radicalization of Joe Rogan is almost complete.
You know, that's my main job is actually waking people up across the political spectrum, especially the big dogs.
Been working on Rogan for 25 years.
Special project.
jordan holmes
You're supposed to be friends.
alex jones
I don't take all the credit for it.
Large, large serving of the credit.
to the majority of the credit for his radicalization.
I know it's angered the system quite a bit, but seriously, the system radicalized Joe Rogan because the system is who is radicalized.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, he can do that silly voice while he's talking about radicalizing him as if, like, that's not basically exactly what he did.
I mean, Rogan is a charismatic guy.
He's gullible.
He's susceptible to stupid shit.
And Alex exploited that.
jordan holmes
And he's extremely wealthy with no fear of consequences.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a bad mixture of being around human beings like Alex.
dan friesen
Let's get Roger Stone on Rogan.
Why not?
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
I just...
dan friesen
Because Rogan will just be asking about all the fuck parties and stuff.
jordan holmes
I mean, that would be what Rogan should ask about, but he'd probably get into, like, cancel culture and shit, because these people are insane.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, that is unfortunate.
jordan holmes
Have fun!
Roger Stone can't hurt anybody anymore!
dan friesen
Don't be so sure.
jordan holmes
You're right.
That's the worst thing that you can say.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's when he rat fucks you the most.
unidentified
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
I'm still waiting for the stone.
dan friesen
So the media coverage of The Sound of Freedom has been quite critical.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Rightfully so.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
In many ways.
jordan holmes
Because it lies.
dan friesen
And so Alex has a take on that that I think is really stupid.
alex jones
Okay.
First off, what's left of the dinosaur corporate kleptocrat pedophile worshiping media.
has further dug itself into hell.
And I would say, I mean, they've been a zombie organization, a zombie constellation of corporate fraudsters that have been propped up for a long time.
But the facade has completely blown over and fallen on the side of the highway now.
Whether it's the Washington Post or the New York Times or CNN, nauseating coverage, defending pedophilia and saying that There is no child kidnapping.
There is no child trafficking.
It does not exist.
And that Sound of Freedom in the number one movie at the box office, backed by Mel Gibson and others, is the most horrible thing on Earth that the world's ever seen.
dan friesen
Obviously no one listening to our show really needs this spelled out, but I wanted to include this clip just to illustrate one of the fraudulent ways that Alex makes arguments.
Here he's saying that because there are articles critical of The Sound of Freedom, that means that the media is saying that trafficking doesn't exist.
Essentially, the media supports child traffickers because they're critical of the movie.
But that's not true.
Just about every article about how the movie sucks includes comments from actual anti-trafficking organizations who talk about how sensationalizing the issue does a disservice to attempts to actually help victims.
The media doesn't support trafficking or say that it doesn't exist, it's just clear that this movie is bullshit.
Anyone who looks at this situation with any kind of a critical eye would understand this, but this kind of rhetoric that Alex is deploying is meant to make sure no one approaches with anything close to a critical eye.
If you see a headline about how Ballard or O.U.R.
have made false claims in the past, you can just ignore it because those people don't think that trafficking even exists.
The claims that they're probably saying are false is like that trafficking is real.
So who cares?
Don't even, you just discount all that criticism.
It's just lies by the pedophile-supporting media.
jordan holmes
That way of arguing is the most annoying and, like, it just ends every conversation with me of just like, okay, well, this thing.
unidentified
Oh, so you don't think that thing is at all, do you?
jordan holmes
Oh, fucking fine.
We're done.
I can't argue you out of, so you think that none of this is real.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That's just unacceptable.
dan friesen
Yeah, when you take that leap, you're basically saying, like, There's no way we're going to come back over this chasm.
jordan holmes
Nope.
It's not happening anymore.
dan friesen
Yeah, and that's intentional.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, sound freedom number one at the box office, baby.
alex jones
And their apologist is the corporate media, and they've got such big huevos that they come out against a movie that's defeated everything at the box office, including Indiana Jones and the Temple of Feminism.
Damn.
unidentified
Who would watch that?
alex jones
So that's a big deal.
dan friesen
That's...
unidentified
I...
jordan holmes
Elizabeth Cady Stanton rips a heart out of some dude.
I would watch that.
That'd be pretty great.
dan friesen
I mean, yeah.
I don't know.
You open the arc and it's feminism comes out.
Something.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Just Audre Lorde appears.
dan friesen
Right, right.
So this is also not true.
Indiana Jones came out the week before, and it made over $94.5 million in its first week.
Conversely, Sound of Freedom made $21.9 million in its first week.
And some might say that Sound of Freedom opened on fewer theaters.
And that is correct.
So they might be thinking that the average per theater is better for that movie than Indiana Jones, and that's also not correct.
Indiana Jones opened on 4,600 theaters on screens and Sound of Freedom in 2,634.
Even with that difference, Indiana Jones made over double.
Per theater that it opened in.
And then, this past weekend, Indiana Jones made $27 million, putting it at number two for the weekend.
But Sound of Freedom was at number three with $19 million.
Insidious, The Red Door, top of the weekend chart, whatever the fuck that is.
jordan holmes
It's another Insidious movie.
dan friesen
I assumed that, but I also don't know what that means.
As someone who worked in theaters for many years, including at the management level, where I needed to assess performance of movies and set screening schedules for upcoming weeks, this all looks pretty normal.
Like, Sound of Freedom was an unexpected success, but it probably isn't going to do much better at the box office moving forward.
It got the right-wing media blitz to bring people out with a 4th of July release date, and they did what they could with it, which is, you know, pretty impressive, but it's not going to actually outdo a box office draw.
It's not going to come close to, like, Spider-Verse.
That's already at, like, 300-something million dollars.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, I mean, that's one of the greatest animated movies ever made.
dan friesen
One caveat, just to be clear.
Sound of Freedom did do better specifically on the 4th of July.
They made $14 million on that day to Indiana Jones' 11.6.
But that was the release day of The Sound of Freedom, and Indy had been out for like a week at that point.
But that's still, I mean, something.
If you want to say that it was the number one movie at the box office, you can say it for the day of 4th of July.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I guess if that's what he's saying, then fine.
But that's...
Not that big.
And it only won by like two million dollars.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not a lot.
That's a margin of error.
dan friesen
For your opening day in Indiana Jones' fifth day in theaters, you should beat it by more than two million.
If you have a lot of interest in your fillick.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, as far as patriot representations of patriotism on July 4th.
I think this one falls pretty low on the 4th of July scale of demonstrating one's jingoism.
We went and saw a movie.
dan friesen
What if you see the movie The Patriot?
jordan holmes
I mean, I feel like everybody does watch the movie The Patriot on 4th of July, right?
dan friesen
I don't.
jordan holmes
You don't?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I thought it was a law.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Every 4th of July from the age of zero on, or I mean from the age of the Patriot on.
dan friesen
Can I be honest with you?
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
I've never seen the Patriot.
I've also never seen Patriot Games.
jordan holmes
Wait, was Heath Ledger in the Patriot?
dan friesen
I think he was.
jordan holmes
Maybe he was?
dan friesen
Yeah, I think he was.
There's a blonde dude.
I remember that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I do remember a blonde dude.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Seen Patriot Games?
jordan holmes
Wait, that's the one with Harrison Ford, right?
dan friesen
Get off of this plane.
jordan holmes
No, that's Air Force One.
dan friesen
I didn't kill my wife!
jordan holmes
That's the...
dan friesen
That's the Patriot!
jordan holmes
No, that's the Fugitive!
dan friesen
The Fugitive Patriot.
jordan holmes
Ah, the Fugitive Patriot.
dan friesen
So Alex spends a good bit of time here bragging about how influential he is, which is a lot of fun.
jordan holmes
Sounds right.
dan friesen
And then he gets to one of what I would assess as the top news stories of the day, and that is that Ice Cube went on Joe Rogan's show a week ago, which, I mean, it's big news.
alex jones
I am proud of a lot of things.
And the thing that, I don't want to say proud, most satisfied about, is that when I go back and talk to these key people and track back what woke them up, the genesis of them waking up, it was this show and our guests, the things we've done, has been, in the main, the most prominent successful organization at getting people to wake up to the New World Order.
And so, to all the listeners and backers and supporters, you really bet on the right horse.
You bet on your own future.
You bet on a winner.
I mean, we're talking triple crown winner.
Not me.
This whole organization, the audience, the listeners, the supporters.
Baby, you are absolutely nailing it, okay?
But man, I gotta tell you, I can't get track of it anymore.
It's not just RFK Jr.
It's not just Tucker Carlson.
It's not just Russell Brand.
It's not just Joe Rogan.
It's not just...
All these Congress people and all these big Hollywood people and the number one movies over and over again and everything is anti-New World Order truth.
Joe Rogan completely comes out in the Ice Cube interview that I finally watched last week.
And I mean, I've got all these clips like the world government's going to enslave us and they're going to control everything we do.
We've got to stop the central bank digital currencies and it's absolute total crap for hour after hour.
And Ice Cube, yeah, we've got to stop this world government.
They want to control our bodies.
They're the enemy.
People say, well, are they controlled opposition?
No, Joe Rogan's not controlled opposition.
No, Mel Gibson, skip this break.
No, Mel Gibson is not controlled opposition.
It's just now it's safe for them to tell you what they already knew.
Because they saw people like me coming out talking about it 25 years ago.
And David Icke and others are like, well, you get attacked if you do that.
It's kooky.
And then over time they woke up.
I mean, you know, I got Joe Rogan calling into my show on 9-11.
That's a famous clip.
He listened all the time.
Um Do you listen to our show?
And Joe knew I was right over the years because he would just be like, is it really that bad?
Really, Alex?
And finally, about five years ago, I got mad at him and confronted him about it, and I said, you need to choose a side.
He's going to be against the New World Order or for it.
And he said, you're right.
It's real.
I'm going to be against it.
And he's done it in his own way fighting.
jordan holmes
Sorry, Dad.
dan friesen
This is ridiculous.
jordan holmes
This is a terrible story.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't think that Rogan calling into his show is a famous story.
jordan holmes
No.
We're the only people who said that that happened.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's not prevalent in any way to the point where I was surprised when I went back and covered it that that was something that happened.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's not something that was talked about.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I think Alex had forgotten, quite frankly.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely.
We all did.
Because that doesn't sound like it could be true.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
It's a mad lib.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if somebody told you that, you'd be like, no, that's not possible.
There are more guys than that.
And in fact, there are not.
There are not that many.
There's not that many guys.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I think there's a couple things that come to mind when I hear something like this.
First is that if you're talking about somebody who is agreeing with you and sounding like you and all this stuff, and your first thing is to assure people they're not controlled opposition, no matter what, you're kind of in a bad place.
You know, if you have to reassure your audience that it's not a trap that someone agrees with you, that's a little rough.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like, you might as well be saying, listen, I know I keep you in such a heightened state of anxiety all the time that you naturally, of course, no, no, no, it's reasonable for you to assume that everyone is false flagging you all the time.
dan friesen
And then that leads me to my second point, and that is that Alex knows that when Rogan didn't let him back on the show, he was saying that he was controlled by opposition.
jordan holmes
That's exactly what he was saying.
dan friesen
So Alex himself has made this accusation.
So you need to assuage those fears in the audience.
You need to make sure they don't remember the thing you said back when Rogan was a sneaky snake.
jordan holmes
I respect that you may not understand Joe Rogan and I's relationship up and down.
I'll gut you like a pig.
We go on the show.
It's the highest roar ever.
You don't let me back on.
You're a controlled opposition monster.
dan friesen
I understand that you don't get me and Rogan's relationship.
I'm horrendously abusive.
And he seems to put up with a whole lot and he's a gullible dum-dum.
jordan holmes
He has consistently made it very clear that he likes me as a friend.
And in all I have done over these years, I am gloating over making him a shittier person.
As if he wanted to fight me.
As if my friend, I was actively like...
I'll get you!
I'll get you!
dan friesen
You got him like a pig!
jordan holmes
Exactly!
That's not how friends work, right?
dan friesen
I think it might be.
jordan holmes
Wait.
dan friesen
You gotta choose a side, man.
jordan holmes
God damn it!
I knew it!
dan friesen
I knew it!
So I don't know really why I'm gonna play this next clip.
It's three minutes long.
But it's indicative of how nothing is going on on this episode.
jordan holmes
Actually, there is something interesting about that last clip.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Because it got me thinking.
Hearing Joe Rogan and Ice Cube both agree the New World Order is coming after you.
It occurs to me that...
In a very specific, like in a controlled environment, because of the way that words work between all of these people, like Dead Prez and Alex could sit down, and as long as you stayed on the same path, they would say the exact same words and be like, I can't believe I agree with you so much, but mean completely different things.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, and I think that what you're talking about is essentially one of the reasons that a lot of people who are into Occupy Wall Street, Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's wild.
dan friesen
Like Patriot.
The One-Armed Man movie.
You think of Heath Ledger.
jordan holmes
It should almost be a different...
Because it's not a homophone.
It's the same exact word.
And it's not...
Do you know what I mean?
dan friesen
Yeah, there's probably a term for that that we just don't have on the tip of our tongue.
unidentified
We're not linguists.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
But Alex is.
unidentified
That's true.
dan friesen
Talks all the time.
jordan holmes
He doesn't stop.
dan friesen
Says words.
And in this clip, he's going to say a bunch of words about how he wants to watch the clip from Mad Max.
Where they're playing chicken with the toe cutter.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So this whole three minute clip is entirely about Mad Max?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Get ready.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And so I just want them to know, we are Mad Max.
In fact, we have the real, we have Mad Max on our team.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
We have Mel Gibson on our team.
We have all the good guys.
Okay.
We're not perfect.
We're maniacs.
But you do understand, we're not going to turn the car off of this chicken.
We're going to jam the accelerator down and aim it straight at your ass.
That's what we're telling you.
You need to just turn off now.
You need to turn off now.
But hey, it's okay.
If Tim Cook runs death camps, we know he's gay, right?
As long as you're liberal, as long as it's fun, as long as it's trendy.
So, the big news.
Enough about all that.
Because you have to understand, more than just news stories or news items and all this, freedom is popular.
Exposing the globalists is popular.
Standing against them is popular.
The New World Order does not know what to do.
They're in total and complete absolute panic mode right now.
And that's just where we are.
But let's not sit there and count our chickens before they're hatched.
They're going to pull some major crap.
I mean, they already say the Russians tomorrow are going to blow up the nuclear power plant with no evidence.
Now, that's not the toe-cutter scene.
I mean, this is...
Road Warrior is the second movie.
Mad Match is the one.
Go to YouTube.
Mad Match toe-cutter scene.
That'll pull it up.
I pulled it up like three years ago.
I'll take it down.
Mad Match toe-cutter scene.
And he's not running over motorcycles.
He's playing chicken with the toe-cutter.
And they're all like, methamphetamine?
It's a great scene.
But the point is, is that that's where we are, ladies and gentlemen.
And God, I've gotten so old, I look like the police chief in Mad Max.
We're in a lot of trouble now.
unidentified
It's all coming true.
alex jones
Anyway, to do the Mad Max scenario, the energy's been cut off.
That's why society's falling apart.
And we live in a world where the globalists have actually artificially implemented themselves.
But, you want me to find it for you?
unidentified
I bet money I can find it for you.
alex jones
We got a big crew in there just talking in my ear.
Just pop in my ear real quick and tell me that you found Mad Max Toe Cutter.
Still looking.
I'm going to do it.
unidentified
Mad Max Chicken Scene.
alex jones
Yep, there it is.
Mad Max Chicken Scene.
Let me see.
Fast forward a little bit.
No, this is the end of Mad Max.
I'll give up.
I'll come in there during the break.
Just stop.
Just pull the plug now.
No more.
No more.
Okay, it's not a big deal.
Alright, so, continuing, ladies and gentlemen.
Let me do this.
unidentified
Let me air an important special report.
alex jones
I'm going to reset the broadcast.
dan friesen
Yeah, you'll probably reset it.
I wanted to play that because it's like...
This is a show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is good stuff.
jordan holmes
That's a rollercoaster.
dan friesen
Yeah, he seems to be unaware that he's on air or something.
Or not care at all.
jordan holmes
Just giving it all up.
dan friesen
It was so, like, okay, I get it.
The point you're making is that you're playing chicken with the globalists.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
It is not essential that you play this clip from Mad Max.
jordan holmes
No, I have to play it.
alex jones
I have to play it.
dan friesen
You understand, this sounds exactly like someone who's hyper-focused, like they're on some kind of a stimulant, but I definitely need this thing.
jordan holmes
I would listen to what you have to say, but I'm hyper-focused on this clip right now.
dan friesen
Also, another person from Birdie's friend group was Boko Fiddlesworth.
I don't remember if that's the guy who looks like a newt, though.
jordan holmes
I'll just say that I don't think Alex ever got beyond Thunderdome.
dan friesen
No.
Also, I love the way that this clip starts where he's like, we've got the real Mad Max.
jordan holmes
Do you think there's a real Mad Max?
dan friesen
You're the guy who played it.
jordan holmes
You've got it backwards.
You've got the fictional Mad Max here.
The real Mad Max exists within the fictional realm.
dan friesen
Yeah, but also Mal Gibson did do all that stuff.
That's true.
jordan holmes
Did he?
dan friesen
No.
So Alex has some accusations of hypocrisy that he's going to throw at people like Fareed Zakaria.
jordan holmes
Oh, that'll take him down finally.
dan friesen
But unfortunately, what Alex describes, if you pay attention, is actually an instance of consistency.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
alex jones
And I've kind of been a little fired up today.
unidentified
A little more energetic than I have been lately.
alex jones
Kind of get the old school Alex Jones where I'm bouncing off the walls.
We're going to just battle through all the news succinctly, very crisply, starting next segment.
But I wanted to get to this little giblet right now.
And this is Jen Psaki in 2022 saying that using cluster bombs is a war crime.
And then Fareed Zakaria, which is a big globalist insider, obviously, Bilderberg guy, big supporter of the war in Ukraine with Soros.
But now it's seasonable.
It's kosher to attack Biden.
He says, he brings up Psaki's statements to Biden on this.
And so it just shows her hypocrisy.
Listen.
dan friesen
Not at all.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
What's hypocritical about it?
Saki made a comment that Russians cluster bombing, particularly civilians is what she was talking about, could potentially be a war crime.
And Freed Zakaria, when he's interviewing Biden, brings up that and asks him a question about it.
It is consistency, if anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the idea.
I am beginning to think one of our biggest problems.
Alright, with a lot of the people that we are talking about, is that they don't understand concepts.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, I think that is definitely true.
Now, I'm going to be, like, incredibly generous and potentially give a way that this could be read in some way as hypocritical.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The hypocrisy could be upon the part of Joe Biden.
Like, greenlighting selling cluster bombs or sending cluster bombs to Ukraine.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that could be the hypocritical act.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But then why are you focusing on Fareed Zakaria and Psaki?
Why are you focusing on the media aspect of it?
And that is where you're pointing to some hypocrisy when, in fact, your criticism is for Biden about the sale or sending those bombs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean...
dan friesen
And it's not a war crime...
Technically, to use cluster bombs.
The United States, Russia, and Ukraine have not signed on to that non-proliferation agreement that a lot of the world is signed on to, so it's not against that.
If you're not using them against civilians...
It may be not a...
I don't know how you would use one precisely, quite frankly.
jordan holmes
That's the antithesis of what they are described as.
dan friesen
I'm not thrilled.
I don't think this is a good idea.
So I think Alex could make some kind of mileage in terms of pointing to Biden.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But pointing to Fareed Zakaria is just ludicrous.
And that's how he's presenting this, which makes it make no sense.
Because the media aspect of this is consistent.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I don't know what's going on.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
But I was just trying to bend over backwards to be generous.
jordan holmes
But that would make sense.
That is the idea of hypocrisy.
They said something was bad, and now they're doing it.
In defiance of it being bad, then now they're calling it good.
I understand that, but Fareed is not part of the...
Or is he?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I guess Alex did say he's, like, up there with Soros.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, that's right.
They're all in on it somehow.
dan friesen
If you assume that literally everybody makes policy together, and, like, they all, like, everyone makes...
unidentified
That's a cop-out.
dan friesen
Every single globalist, and that can be anybody.
jordan holmes
I mean, literally, it can be anybody.
dan friesen
He's responsible for every decision made by any other globalist.
If that's how you're working it, then, yeah, I guess this is hypocritical.
jordan holmes
Brutal.
dan friesen
But that's stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's...
I mean, that just makes it no fun.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Then it's just arbitrary.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Boo.
dan friesen
So, Alex wishes that this war was not happening.
He wishes the West hadn't have done this.
jordan holmes
It's all their fault.
For what?
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
And then he predicts that this is going to lead to germ warfare.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
I don't want tactical nuclear weapons.
I wish Russia wouldn't have invaded.
I wish the West wouldn't have started the war.
The point is, let's really talk about military stuff.
Because here's what nobody's saying.
And this is why you tune into this show.
And I don't want to say this with pleasure.
Because I'm very upset right now.
Because I have four children.
I have a family.
I want to keep living.
And I'm really upset.
But Yedyev, the former president of Russia, came out a few weeks ago.
He said, let's just go out and have a nuclear war.
This is what you want.
That's sarcasm.
He later said that.
To say, that's where we're going.
Don't make a joke out of this.
When you use all these weapons, it escalates.
That's what's happening.
It escalates, it escalates, it escalates.
So, when they come out and say, we're going to legalize cluster bombs, get Jen Psaki cued up again, when Biden and the White House and Obama and Princess Diana and all of them have harped and harped and harped on how cluster bombs are the worst thing since death.
And now we're going to use them.
I know how the globals operate.
I mean, I just do.
And I know this is what's happening.
But I'm sure, I'm sure.
They're going to have a cluster bomb debate right now for the next two weeks.
And in two weeks, they're going to start the announcement for delivery of F-16s.
Then it's going to be Predator drones.
And then it's full war with NATO and Russia.
Not a proxy war.
Not a hybrid war.
Because if they're telling you, The nastiest dirty thing in there, like cluster bombs or not, bioweapons, nerve gas, you know, that's the really nasty stuff.
Bioweapons even worse is it just spreads and spreads and blows back on you.
dan friesen
Put the clock on it two weeks.
Also, bioweapons.
I thought that COVID was already a bioweapon, so we've already done that one.
jordan holmes
No, different bioweapons.
dan friesen
Okay, nerve gas, nerve agents.
jordan holmes
Completely different.
dan friesen
Putin certainly is not unfamiliar with such things.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, name one presidential contender that he murdered.
dan friesen
Just one?
So yeah, I mean, I get where Alex is going.
Things can escalate.
Yes, that is definitely something to be concerned about.
I'm not necessarily...
I don't know what I feel about any kind of further escalations and what have you, but I don't think that this kind of anti-interventionism is productive.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I think that his anti-interventionism is actually a support of...
Just give Ukraine to Putin.
Just give Ukraine to Putin.
Right.
jordan holmes
Why not?
unidentified
Come on!
dan friesen
And I find that to be a little bit distasteful.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, everybody's...
I understand the reasonable...
Like, of course, Ukraine's asking, you know, if you are in a war for survival, it's literally live free or die.
I mean, you can't be an American and not support that.
It's just in our fucking money.
dan friesen
It's certainly understandable.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
So that makes sense.
But what it does is it just shows, like, you know, all in or all out.
Should have been there from the beginning or not at all.
We can't do this slow trickle bullshit.
dan friesen
It's stupid.
It's tough.
And it is also tough once, you know, you start sending weapons.
Like, where do you draw the line?
Like, if X is okay, then Y is Y not.
And that is kind of, like...
jordan holmes
All in or all out.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I assume that there's a good reason.
I assume that there's some sort of a, like, why something is across the line and why something is, like, this is what we feel is appropriate to send.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But I don't know what that is.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you got into a conversation with somebody who is explaining it to you, you would be disappointed.
dan friesen
I imagine I would.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I imagine I would.
jordan holmes
It would not be good.
dan friesen
But yeah, I don't know.
I think that all in or all out is also kind of dangerous.
jordan holmes
Well, I'm...
I understand.
No, I'm not saying that is a good thing or a bad thing.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying that if you are going to do this thing, that's the way you do it and get it done, you know?
Otherwise, you're just shittily...
You're half-assing it.
How can you half-ass a war?
alex jones
I don't know.
dan friesen
I don't know.
unidentified
Right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, within a week or two or so, Russia is going to be attacking NATO bases.
jordan holmes
That's a bad idea for them.
dan friesen
So, keep that, again, on the clock.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And so this only means one thing, full escalation.
Sorry to have to announce that to everybody.
Within two weeks, they'll announce F-16s.
Within one month, Predator drones, River drones.
And Russia has said they will start attacking NATO bases, and we're off the races.
So, kiss your little ones goodbye tonight, and tuck them in, because we got a crazy pedophile running the White House.
Oh, God, it's so horrible.
And, you know, we see this big awakening in the public, but is it a day late, the dollar's short?
I hope it's not.
But people ask, like, how are you handling all the media attacks and fake lawsuits and rigged courts and demonization campaigns?
I'm like, I'm not even aware of that.
I went with my daughter to the creek today and swam with her for about two hours, and there were little bitty perts coming over.
Chewing on my feet and my leg, trying to get a little piece of skin.
That's what they do to other animals in the water.
They come and get things off of them.
So I'm laying in the creek with her, and there's fish all over me.
My daughter's sitting on a rock, and she's like, Daddy, they're biting you.
Why don't you worry about it?
I said, These fish are kissing me.
They're just getting things off of me, and they think they're very sweet.
I said, Why don't you get in the water?
She got down in the water, let the fish get all over her, and they're biting on her.
And she's like, Oh, it's so fun.
I was like, Yeah, it's great.
And that's really the allegory here.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
My enemies attacking me just make me stronger.
unidentified
We're like little fish biting on me in a creek.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
First off, analogy.
dan friesen
The lawsuits and bankruptcy and everything are little fish nibbling on skin.
They're cleaning his feet.
jordan holmes
How does he manage to make even what should be a touching interaction between a father and his child into something creepy and gross and somehow evil?
dan friesen
And confusing.
jordan holmes
And confusing!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, yeah, NATO's gonna be attacked by Russia, like, I guess he's saying, like, in a month or so?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then Katie barred the door, cow ate the cabbage, we're all dead.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean...
dan friesen
So enjoy this time at the creek.
jordan holmes
Listen, I mean, you know, I would personally, I would say that everybody should destroy all of our nuclear weapons and our cluster bombs and all of that shit.
Everybody equally, we shouldn't have it, right?
dan friesen
It would be ideal.
It's the best way to go.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be the smart thing to do.
Or maybe everybody gets to have one ceremonial nuke, you know?
dan friesen
Decorative?
jordan holmes
And then we'll all worship it underground.
I think it's the way to go.
But, I mean...
I don't think we're going to get a NATO-Russia shooting war.
dan friesen
No, I don't think...
I think the odds of that are pretty low.
I think both sides are keenly aware of the consequences that are entailed.
And I think that that's probably...
Very, very much last resort.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, you know, the Americans and the Russians can sit down and they'll be like, hey, yeah, yeah, we're both a bunch of dicks.
We did the Afghanistan thing.
You're doing the Ukraine thing.
Let's just not kill everybody.
And that seems reasonable.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I think so.
I feel like Alex is maybe on one of his things.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
Maybe, you know, I know he said that at the beginning the evil side's losing, but maybe he's shifted into the doom area.
unidentified
I feel like he's convinced himself that we're losing now.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
alex jones
So we have to stop thinking about ourselves individually and start thinking about what's happening to all of us together right now.
Because let me tell you, when you look back on this, if you survived this, and I hope we do, you're going to go back, God, why did we not know what we were living through?
Why didn't we know it was going to happen?
It's always that way in history.
It's always that way.
I'm telling you, I can sense the doom, alright?
I can feel death.
unidentified
So, and I'm never wrong, people better look out.
alex jones
You better pray to God for peace right now, because there's time to pull back from the precipice.
dan friesen
He's never wrong.
jordan holmes
You know he's never wrong, because he's never said it like this before.
unidentified
Totally, yeah.
dan friesen
Yep, never wrong.
jordan holmes
This is completely different from all the other times that he's said it.
dan friesen
I sense death.
jordan holmes
I mean, he's never sensed death before, or doom.
unidentified
Dude!
jordan holmes
So clearly we can take this as not somebody who's, you know, like chicken littling.
This is a man who's finally saying the truth.
dan friesen
This is a dude who's straight up terrorizing his audience.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
This is just nonsense.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, instead of that, maybe you talk a little bit more about going to the creek.
jordan holmes
Alright!
I prefer that too!
dan friesen
Yeah!
You know, I like, as a kid I always used to like to go down to the creek.
Throw some rocks in there, you know, wander around.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it was great stuff.
alex jones
She wanted to go to the creek today.
She goes, I want to go in my snorkel, and I want to see crawdads and fish, because there's beautiful sunfish in there, and we go anywhere.
About that one's a little spot off the road that nobody goes to.
We go down this hill, park our car, nobody's there between two hills.
Because most of our creek's full of people, but they don't know the spots to go.
jordan holmes
That's a great story.
alex jones
And there's cliffs, so nobody's there.
We're just like for two hours sitting back, swimming in the creek, and...
Hanging out with the fish.
It's just amazing.
Absolutely amazing.
And that's what's so beautiful about this world.
You know, we fight not because we hate the globalists.
Though I do dislike them quite a bit.
I do hate them.
I fight because I love my daughter and my family.
And I love you.
I mean, I really have empathy.
And I've said this before.
Empathy is actually a very selfish thing.
When you don't have empathy for people, you don't care about yourself either.
And blind empathy, though, is what the globalists create.
Oh, do this, be liberal.
Oh, because they know you have empathy, they manipulate your empathy.
You've got to spend your empathy where you know it's properly spent.
So that's important.
Don't have blind empathy, but definitely have empathy.
Have little crabs come over in the ocean.
jordan holmes
Crabs?
Are these an allegorical crab?
alex jones
This is crazy.
But let's move on.
We have more serious issues to hit than having fish feed on you.
I'm serious.
I had like 50 of them on me today.
unidentified
It was crazy.
alex jones
And I had just sun perch, bluegills.
They were all different types.
Pink ones, brown ones, red ones.
These little fish all over me.
It was like a piranha action.
And kind of fun.
But the main thing I was doing as I shaved my head was getting some sun on my head so I don't have white sidewalls.
You know what I mean?
You know, why should we even talk about the New World Order?
I was walking back into the car after two hours down at the creek of swimming and snorkels and seeing fish and crawdads and flowers and dragonflies and some deer came out and we saw them.
And I get back up to the car by the bridge and I look up and a car drives by and goes, we love Alex Jones and honks their horn.
My daughter looks at me with love.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
alex jones
And I go, look at that, honey.
unidentified
And right there's the moon.
alex jones
It was just so magic.
dan friesen
It's a shame that everyone in this story will be dead.
jordan holmes
Can you, can you, Dan, I don't know if you've ever experienced this with another person before, but if you've ever been in a conversation with somebody, have you ever been in a conversation with somebody where they're telling, they're on one subject and then they start to wind down and you're like, okay, we're going to change the subject, and then all of a sudden they get a sudden burst of energy and we keep going for another 20 minutes?
dan friesen
I've experienced this.
jordan holmes
This seems familiar.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Familiar.
dan friesen
Yeah, it strikes me as reminiscent of parties I didn't want to be at.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
People telling me stories I didn't want to hear.
dan friesen
But I do love a creek, and I think it's great to make up stories about people driving by and saying we love Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's hard not to want to.
I grew up Midwestern in a rural area.
I've been to a creek.
dan friesen
The difficulty for me is this is stupid and meaningless, but Alex does make a good point.
Why even talk about the New World Order?
jordan holmes
I agree!
dan friesen
It feels like he said just about everything he could possibly have to say about them.
jordan holmes
It does seem like we've reached a saturation point at least.
dan friesen
And I don't think he even wants to do this, quite frankly.
jordan holmes
I think he wants to go to the creek.
dan friesen
So Sunday is a two-hour show, and we are now an hour and a half into the show.
jordan holmes
The Creek Show is what we're going to be calling this one.
dan friesen
Yes, this is the Creek Show.
So, here we are.
alex jones
So, without further ado, we've still got 35 minutes left.
Let me go ahead and start getting into the news.
I said I'd get to.
jordan holmes
Start.
alex jones
The Ice Cube interview a week and a half ago.
I finally listened to it five or six days ago.
Here's a short clip.
dan friesen
Yeah, so the top story we're going to get into now that we're three quarters of the way through the show, let's go ahead and play that clip of Ice Cube talking to Rogan.
jordan holmes
I think it's about time to get started.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Cool.
So Alex does get to another news story.
So, I mean, there is a little bit.
And he's talking about his opposition to self-driving cars.
Now, you might notice at the end of this that he's very mad at the people who are, you know...
Involved in self-driving cars.
jordan holmes
Is there somebody specifically involved in self-driving cars?
dan friesen
No, it's a mystery as to who is possibly really involved in pushing that.
jordan holmes
Could be anybody.
dan friesen
Could be anybody.
And we really need to get to the bottom of it.
jordan holmes
Definitely not somebody I'm a fan of.
alex jones
I want to beat the globalists.
I want to stop the new world order.
I want to have a pro-human future.
I want to stop them dead.
And I got some examples of that coming up.
They're sabotaging.
The self-driving cars all over the world, including here in the United States.
And again, total civil disobedience.
I'm not against new technology, but it's being deployed to enslave us and control us.
And I say more power to people.
In fact, I'm surprised they're just putting traffic cones over the robots' cameras and systems.
I'm surprised they're not taking baseball bats to its antennas and the rest of it.
Because it's one thing they'd like to send a human out to pull the cone off.
Why not just top that son of a bitch over?
You know what I mean?
Because it's designed to displace us.
It's not there to empower us.
It's being deployed against us.
All of it is.
Now, I'm not saying wreck that car.
It's more important to find out who's using driverless car services and do not support those services.
Just like Bud Light.
That's why Bud Light's so important.
Anheuser-Busch is a CIA, globalist, knuckle-dragging anti-American group.
All their Clydesdales and crap, they hate America.
They always, 50 years they hate us.
That's such a globalist company.
It's new world order controlled.
I'm so glad to see that company die.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
jordan holmes
I mean, aren't they German?
dan friesen
Um, InBev owns them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, see, that's another thing.
None of them exist.
dan friesen
No, Anheuser-Busch was, like, based in St. Louis, right?
I think so.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't think it's a German...
I think InBev is a German company.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And they bought them out like years ago because there was that moral panic about that then.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
About how like, this is an American beer, now it's a German company.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
I remember that Freedom Fries episode.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
But yeah, so they're apparently a New World Order globalist CIA-controlled company because they had Dylan Mulvaney on a novelty can that they sent her.
To make a TikTok video.
jordan holmes
So many reasons to be angry at global corporations, and zero of them are that.
dan friesen
Strange Alex didn't bring up Elon Musk in terms of the people who are profiting off of self-driving cars.
jordan holmes
It feels like there's one big name in autonomous driving cars.
One huge name, and it might be a name that he says...
All the time!
dan friesen
Hey, and he's gonna criticize him when there's criticism to be made.
Sure.
He's gonna give it up to him when it's time to give it up.
And he's also gonna ignore things that he's doing when those things are things that he would have to criticize.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I would criticize him if I was paying attention.
dan friesen
I praise him when the praise is due, and I ignore his involvement when I need to criticize him.
unidentified
Like...
dan friesen
Get it straight.
jordan holmes
A critical thinker would.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So, unfortunately, Alex does not play You Belong to the City.
He does play Harden My Heart by...
Man, why can't I come up with the name of the band?
jordan holmes
The moment you say the name and then ask for the name, my brain goes, no.
Oh, boy.
Did he play the clip from Mad Max?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
I did need that confirmed.
I needed closure on that story.
dan friesen
No, when he goes to break, he finds that clip.
Gotcha.
Wow.
Quarterflash.
jordan holmes
Bang!
dan friesen
Got it.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
So he does play Harden My Heart, and that was nice to hear.
But he does do a riffing over a song.
Like I said, I wish it was You Belong to the City, but it's not.
Always.
And he discusses how he's in a good mood.
jordan holmes
Went to the creek today.
alex jones
You know who I bet on?
The people of this planet.
I'm never going to back down.
Our ancestors fought so hard for us to be here together.
And I just love every damn one of you.
And we're going to win.
And God is 100% real.
Make no mistake about that.
But you better get down to reality.
Satan's real as well.
unidentified
Woo!
He's still alive, alive, alive, alive.
On hell and death.
alex jones
That's the final song right here.
unidentified
The only way you can travel on that road.
Back in five, five, five, five God's not giving you a ticket if you're a coward and if you're against humanity.
alex jones
Well, these Satanists have already lost.
unidentified
I'm ready to do it.
Music Alright, now I'm fully loaded today with news and information.
alex jones
Not drop the ball.
I've had some fun.
I'm in a good mood, actually.
Who wouldn't be after I was out in the creek for two hours?
I'm going to go back right now.
But my daughter's like, can we come build a fire here?
Can we go down there all the time?
Can we stay here, Dad?
And I'm like, no, we can't stay here.
Well, we can camp.
And I go, no, this is all private property on both sides.
This is public land, but you just can't camp here.
And who knows?
Maybe we will.
But the point is that we're designed to be outside.
Elon Musk last week said, say he's a good guy, say he's a bad guy.
He said, stop getting on Twitter.
Go outside.
unidentified
You said he's a bad guy.
alex jones
That's what it's all about.
dan friesen
When Musk said that, he was trolling people who were criticizing him, putting limits on numbers of tweets you can see.
jordan holmes
He was just being an asshole.
dan friesen
Yeah, he was being a dick.
jordan holmes
He's a real prick.
dan friesen
Yeah, he sucks.
Yeah.
I like this point that Alex is making, though.
This, like, hey, I haven't really done my job, but I'm in a good mood.
And it's like, do you think those things are connected?
Do you realize that doing your show bums you out?
jordan holmes
Don't.
Don't bring self-awareness into this.
He might explode.
dan friesen
Oh, I'm sure he is on some level aware of, like, if I have to do my show and yell about bullshit, it's going to ruin this good mood that I'm in.
So I'm not going to do it.
jordan holmes
I'm just going to talk about the creek today.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, listen.
I'm not going to say there haven't been plenty of days where I walked into work and I was like, you know what?
I'm feeling too good to put up with this bullshit right now.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I'm with you.
dan friesen
It happens.
jordan holmes
I get you.
dan friesen
Also, Gussie Finknottle.
That was the guy who looks like a newt.
jordan holmes
I appreciate you demonstrating your memory capacity in the face of somebody with almost none.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Gussie.
He studied newts.
jordan holmes
Ah, that makes sense.
dan friesen
And he looked like one.
jordan holmes
Well.
dan friesen
According to Bertrand.
jordan holmes
That's nominative determinism.
Nominative determinism.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Something like that.
dan friesen
So I was a little confused, because Alex goes to break.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he comes back, and he's playing a clip from Dr. No.
Sure!
There's no setup for it.
jordan holmes
Is Mel Gibson in Dr. No?
dan friesen
Nope.
Dr. No.
There's no explanation for it.
There's no context for it.
And here we go.
unidentified
And now we're going to play it.
And in any case, they couldn't possibly pass up even the slightest chance of getting their hands on the lecture decoder.
They have wanted one for years.
Mm-hmm.
All that you say could be true.
What else?
As an added refinement, I think the specter will probably have the chance of a personal revenge for the killing of our operative doctor, no?
Because the man the British will almost certainly use on a mission of this sort would be their agent, James Bond.
Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one.
Good.
I shall put my plan into operation straight away, and there will be no failure.
alex jones
All right.
So, we've had a good show tonight.
unidentified
Owen Short, we've got ten minutes left.
alex jones
But I really got prepared today, and I didn't cover much of it.
unidentified
That's okay.
alex jones
Because Tim Cook's gay, and he runs death camps.
It's like, well, he's gay, though.
He runs death camps.
It's trendy.
I'm like, we're in a nuclear war, and it's like, well, Biden's, you know, trendy, and so's Obama.
So, it's all right.
It's okay.
dan friesen
I realize that, like, when Alex says trendy, he doesn't actually mean trendy.
That's a word like woke that has no definition to him, really.
Because he spends all of his time talking about how cool it is that the most popular shows in the world sound like him.
In essence, what he's bragging about is his ideas being trendy.
jordan holmes
He's trendsetting.
dan friesen
He talks about being in the zeitgeist and what have you.
So he's very highly concerned with being trendy in some way.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But yeah, this trendy clearly is just a pejorative meant to describe the sort of social groups that he doesn't like.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's a classic, you know what it means word.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Where it's like, I can always hide behind the word.
Because you and I don't know what he means when he means it.
We do.
But most people don't.
dan friesen
We have a definition for what trendy means, and we probably don't like it.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's not a word that generally is used as, like, a positive.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think in most...
Maybe it is in some senses.
jordan holmes
Following the crowd, or I don't know.
You know, sometimes people use it well, but this word is a lie!
dan friesen
I also think that it is not a good justification for not doing your job because Tim Cook's gay.
I think that that's...
jordan holmes
What I find so fascinating about that is that is like the demon box.
Like you can hear him talking.
Do you know what I mean?
Like he's got the angel and the demon on his side and it's actually the devil talking.
He's like, no, no, no, it's okay, man.
You can be shit at your job.
You're not gay like Tim Cook.
Like that's the evil part of his brain.
dan friesen
I think...
jordan holmes
Or it's the only part of his brain.
dan friesen
Look, the devil and the angel are hanging out in a hot tub with a couple globalists.
jordan holmes
The angel is drowning.
dan friesen
There's a part of my brain that thinks that Tim Cook will be dead for ten years and Alex will still be saying this.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
This is just muscle memory kind of stuff.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
It has no relationship to the things that he's saying.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
It's the demon.
It's the demon there.
dan friesen
The demon is his muscle memory.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
It's crazy.
He'll be ahead in a jar like Futurama and still be like, oh, Tim Cook!
dan friesen
So Alex does have one bit of a news piece that he gets to, and it has to do with a story.
There's a headline, and that is about China restricting the export of a couple of precious metals.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And the headline puts it as a warning shot.
China fires a warning shot.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
And so Alex spends a long time pontificating on this, and I'm just going to play this bit of it.
alex jones
This government hates America.
For 70 years, they've been recruiting people, including 30,000 Nazis.
dan friesen
He's talking with the U.S. government, not the Chinese government.
alex jones
Nazis and Operation Paperclip to come here that hate this country.
It created the wealth, the prosperity, everything, because it was freer than other countries.
But then the globalists don't like freedom, but they can suck the energy out of freedom.
And if they can build their new thing off of it, they'll do it all day long.
So, they say it's a warning shot.
It's not a warning shot.
It's the globalists saying to what's left of the American establishment, you're going to roll over to the New World Order and Klaus Schwab.
Because China works for them.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Or we're going to cut your infrastructure completely off.
Now again.
The story isn't that China just did this.
The story is, why, when America dominated the world and had full control in 1945 on, did we set up China in the 70s and transfer all power to them?
That's your answer.
It's not, why is China doing this?
Why has China got us by the balls, squeezing them?
No, it's, why did the people...
Well, you've seen them.
They're anti-Christian, folks.
The West had the promise of Christianity.
That's what they're threatened by.
The China's godless.
That's why they're the model.
This is all being done to settle a satanic score against God.
And the fact that God rose America up in this mission.
dan friesen
I thought China was kind of the good guys now, according to Alex.
I thought they'd broken from the New World Order or whatever.
jordan holmes
The last time he was saying that they were doing a great job with people, with all of their minorities, and keeping them from living well.
dan friesen
It's confusing to keep track of the allegiances here.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex is reporting on this story about China putting restrictions in place for the export of two rare metals, gallium and germanium.
He's saying that they're cutting off the whole supply and that you can't make any microchips without these two metals, which is not true.
Then, on top of that, the conspiracy is really that the U.S. has tons and tons of these metals stockpiled up, but they're going to pretend that China's cutting us off so we can't have any more chips, presumably to heighten tensions or, I guess, to let China take over the world, which would make the advanced stockpiling of these metals kind of pointless.
And then we get to this clip where apparently it's about God and the devil and an age-old blood...
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was a little bit confused whenever America set China up and then gave them everything of the world in the 70s.
I would like some answers on that, particularly when, why, and did that happen?
dan friesen
Yeah, consistently throughout every single year all the time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It does seem like that.
dan friesen
But now I guess that China's broken away from the New World Order, but maybe hasn't, and who knows.
In reality, these export restrictions that China is implementing are internal.
They're restrictions imposed on companies in China who will now need to apply for a license to export these items.
Also, gallium and germanium are not naturally occurring material.
They're produced by companies in China.
So I don't know what Alex is...
Like, he should...
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This was done in response to restrictions the US placed on exporting semiconductor technology to China.
The story isn't a non-story, and it's clearly part of a strategic resource back and forth, but it's so clear that Alex just saw a headline that called this restriction a warning shot, and he's just riffing out an elaborate story about it.
And also, Alex should maybe be fine with these particular metals.
Not being allowed, because they're primarily used in things that he hates, like 5G and solar panels.
And he thinks that solar panels are part of a big environmental fraud meant to cut off the energy in our country, so he should be happy that we don't have those.
5G is gonna brainwash everyone and kill them with mind bullets or something, so yeah, great.
We should be banning these metals.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I think...
You know, it's one of those things that we take for granted about living in the future.
dan friesen
This was three days ago.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Two days ago.
jordan holmes
I mean this.
I mean that they can produce elements.
Do you know?
That used to be, for human history, the alchemy of...
That was the search for God.
Alchemy.
And now we're all kind of bored by the fact that we can manipulate elements and create new ones out of fucking...
That's crazy!
dan friesen
Let me blow your mind.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
I inhale, and then I produce carbon dioxide.
So I am a machine capable of alchemy.
jordan holmes
You are not enjoying and respecting the beauty of life right now.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, everybody knows that you can, like, turn things into gold.
Like, you can do that.
That's been...
They've known that.
There's old scrolls about that for a long time, so I don't know what you're talking about the future.
Like, that's old stuff.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Turning all these other things into gold.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying that these are not fundamental elements that existed until we made them.
That's fucking cool.
We are the stars themselves, Dan.
dan friesen
We are but star stuff.
jordan holmes
Creating more complicated metals out of less.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's cool.
That's cool!
dan friesen
I think that that clip that Alex played might not have been from Dr. No.
I don't know my James Bond movies, and I just said that because they reference Dr. No.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't know.
dan friesen
I'm guessing that maybe it's the one that comes after Dr. No, because maybe this is a follow-up.
jordan holmes
Could be.
I don't know.
But those do seem like the basis for his two voices.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's Soros.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
One of those guys is Soros, for sure.
jordan holmes
And then the kind of ethete, non-denominational, from Europe voice.
You know, that kind of like...
dan friesen
The Gribble Pibble.
jordan holmes
Yes, the Gribble Pibble.
dan friesen
There's a little bit of Pibble.
jordan holmes
There was.
dan friesen
So, we come to the end of this, and Alex is thrilled that The Sound of Freedom is making so much money at the box office and is very trendy.
jordan holmes
It's so trendy.
dan friesen
And then he went to the creek.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I mean, this is, as he put it, a great show.
dan friesen
It's a great show.
jordan holmes
It's a great show.
dan friesen
And I think part of the reason it's a great show is he didn't do his job.
jordan holmes
He didn't do his job.
I mean, he might as well have said, like, hey, I had a lot of fun today.
What was different?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Well...
dan friesen
I mean, he doesn't do his job often.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
So that's not really that different.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But yeah, I find one of the things that's bizarre about this is the beginning of the show with the bad guys are in trouble, the Great Awakening is here and all this, and then we get to Doom a little bit later.
jordan holmes
So quick.
dan friesen
I can't keep track of where we're at.
And I'm looking at this with a critical lens.
I can't imagine if you're just listening to this show and buy into it, how could you possibly keep track of how scared should I be right now?
jordan holmes
And not just that, but listen.
How is it possible that we are changing positions, jockeying positions?
Seemingly every day.
These are plans that are several thousand years old, and we're still panicking on a daily basis?
dan friesen
Well, look at the stock market, man.
It goes up, it goes down.
jordan holmes
Well, but you shouldn't worry about it, because that's how it works.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, it's just going to keep doing the thing it does.
dan friesen
But if you're invested, you've got to be worried.
unidentified
Oh, God.
dan friesen
As things go up, go down.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Buy, buy, buy!
Sell, sell, sell!
That's kind of Alex.
jordan holmes
It is exactly Alex.
Yes, this is 100%.
dan friesen
But with fear.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fear stock Barker.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, we'll be back, Jordan, with another episode, and maybe we'll reveal the details of Glasgow.
Ooh.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
I was kind of promoting Blue Sky as a joke.
Or not promoting Blue Sky, but our Blue Sky as a joke, because we don't use social media anyway.
jordan holmes
No, we don't use any social media.
unidentified
How could it be?
dan friesen
But we're on Twitter.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZXClark.
unidentified
I'm Leo, I'm Leo, I'm Leo.
dan friesen
That was less beatboxy and more like a theremin.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Hey, Alex, do you like theremins?
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robot.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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