#823: March 1, 2004
Today, Dan and Jordan check in on Alex as he is fooled by a fake story about John Kerry being a Satanist, and gets into a disagreement with a caller. Also, the gents make a big announcement.
June 30, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
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Dan and Jordan, I'm sweating. | |
| Knowledgefight.com. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| I have great respect for knowledge fight. | ||
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Knowledge fight. | |
| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and George. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I need money. | ||
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Andy in Kansas. | |
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding us. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a friend. | ||
| I love your world. | ||
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KnowledgeFight. | |
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody! | ||
| Welcome back to KnowledgeFight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| I have a quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| You go first. | ||
| My bright spot, Dan, is the TV show, new TV show, I Am A Virgo. | ||
| It was made by Boots Riley, the guy who made Sorry For Bothering You, Sorry To Bother You. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Absolutely spectacular. | ||
| Boots does good work. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| You know me. | ||
| I wrote a book that is essentially literalizing as much as possible and blunting it down to as simple a part as possible. | ||
| And what's great about this is that it does the same thing and then fantasizes it on top of it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So it squeezes the idea of feeling like you're extraordinary and then expands it to being, I'm 13 feet tall. | ||
| It's a really, really fascinating way of making very not subtle things. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's fantastic. | ||
| It's fantastic. | ||
| What's it on? | ||
| Where can people find this? | ||
| Well, I will say this. | ||
| Here's something fun. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It is one of the most anti-capitalist things I've ever seen made. | ||
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Right? | |
| Amazon Prime. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's there. | ||
| So, there's that. | ||
| Hey, you gotta make your product. | ||
| What are you gonna do? | ||
| There's no ethical consumption. | ||
| There really isn't! | ||
| Then what are you gonna do? | ||
| There's nothing you can do! | ||
|
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Shit. | |
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Anyways, how about you? | ||
| My bright spot, Jordan, is I guess what you'd call a fairly big announcement. | ||
| And that is at the end of September, September 23rd and 24th, there is a little festival, not little, I guess it's a festival conference, QED in Manchester. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| In the UK. | ||
| And I was thrilled to be offered a spot speaking at it. | ||
| You were. | ||
| So I will be speaking at the QED conference. | ||
| Indeed you will. | ||
| In Manchester. | ||
| And tickets are available on their website. | ||
| I'm not sure of schedule yet. | ||
| In terms of what day I'll be speaking or what time slot or anything. | ||
| But I'll be giving a talk about Alex Jones in some fashion. | ||
| Still working out some of the details of the talk itself. | ||
| But I'll be going over. | ||
| You'll be coming along as moral support. | ||
| I will be coming along as moral support. | ||
| I'll just be there backstage. | ||
| I'll be like cheering you on like a stage mom. | ||
| Yeah, I was conflicted at first when the invitation came if I wanted you to be on stage Sure. | ||
| I'm still... | ||
| 20% into that idea. | ||
| It would be a little fun if I had a mic in the audience and I just heckled you every now and again. | ||
| I don't want heckling, but hype manning maybe? | ||
| What else would I do? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Come on, buddy. | ||
| Heckle hype. | ||
| So yeah, that's pretty exciting. | ||
| It's intimidating in some ways. | ||
| I've not given a speech at a conference before. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| It's a little bit professional for my vibes. | ||
| But, yeah, you know, you gotta take opportunities that come and grow. | ||
| Grow to meet them. | ||
| This is the part where your co-host, your loving best friend, says something like, you know, Dan, you deserve it. | ||
| You know, you've worked hard to get here. | ||
| But I'm going to be honest, you don't. | ||
| You haven't. | ||
| You've done nothing. | ||
| You really, you got lucky with all of the stuff you do. | ||
| See, you know me well enough to know that that's what I need. | ||
| It's way better. | ||
| That's like when my house burned down many years back. | ||
| There was unfortunately a dog passed away in the fire. | ||
| And that night, me and a comedian friend, Timmy, we went to an open mic. | ||
| And Timmy got on stage and roasted me about how I killed a dog. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Instead of showing sympathy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But that's what I need to survive in this moment. | ||
| Your sympathy only makes me acknowledge the tragedy of life. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It helped a bit in terms of, like, you know, not pandering and not, like... | ||
| Kid glovesing. | ||
| It is like when you're acting differently to a dog, they only know you're acting differently. | ||
| They don't know why you're acting differently. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| So when people treat you differently, it means the situation is so unique and different that it makes you uncomfortable. | ||
| Yeah, that's probably a large part of it. | ||
| So we'll be there and having some fun. | ||
| We will be there. | ||
| So come on out. | ||
| Get tickets to the fest? | ||
| Conference? | ||
| Fest? | ||
| It's not a fest, because I don't think there's a bunch of bands. | ||
| Yeah, you know, from the descriptions I've heard from people who I know are going to enjoy it and have a great time, probably not going to be comedian-heavy. | ||
| Just throwing that out there. | ||
| Might be, no, 311 isn't going to be playing. | ||
| Doubtful, doubtful. | ||
| So yeah, I... | ||
| You know, this is a lot, you know, preparing for this, and then, you know, there's a lot of anxieties that come along. | ||
| Certainly there's, I don't have a passport currently, and I need to get that resolved, and I'm in the process of going through the hoops of that. | ||
| But, you know, catastrophizing the idea of like, well, instead of looking at it as like, well, there's, you know, steps to take, and we'll get there, we'll make it through. | ||
| Instead of that, there's just like the image in my head. | ||
| I've had a whole lot. | ||
| Rattling around in my bean. | ||
| Up in my brain. | ||
| Yeah, you've been underneath a giant pile of shit for quite some time. | ||
| Yeah, and I don't know. | ||
| I think we talked a bit more about mental health stuff earlier on when we were doing the show. | ||
| And I think that that's partially because we had less listeners. | ||
| And we weren't quite as concerned. | ||
| See, I was thinking about it. | ||
| It's not concern. | ||
| I know what you mean. | ||
| It's not concern. | ||
| Yeah, I was thinking about it. | ||
| I do not mind sharing stuff about struggles and things because I do think it should be destigmatized and I think we should not look at things as weakness or anything. | ||
| I came to a point where I was feeling like as our audience grew, because our audience is a very caring group of people and everybody is very nice, I didn't want to impose my... | ||
| Mental health issues on other people. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| You know, like, everyone is so nice if you say you're feeling down or whatever. | ||
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Sure, sure. | |
| I don't want people to worry about me and such. | ||
| Well, I mean, we spend all of our time talking about a guy who emotionally abuses his audience in much the same fashion that if you don't take care of yourself when you do it, you could be doing, of course. | ||
| It's definitely territory I would not want to dabble in. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, things have been a bit tough, and I want to thank everyone for, you know, I don't know. | ||
| The thankful things that they needed to be thanked for. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And, you know, you've been very helpful in picking up some slack, interviewing Ronson. | ||
| See, this is what I need. | ||
| This is what I need. | ||
| Yeah, now we're talking. | ||
| But yeah, so anyway, between like some of that, you know, Some of this down dip mixed with these anxiety pressures and then also switching meds. | ||
| It's been a fucking lot. | ||
| And also Alex is on vacation-ish again. | ||
| Put a button on that. | ||
| I think he went to Florida. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because he was interviewing the pastor, Rodney Howard Brown, and I believe he lives in Florida. | ||
| And then he was on Valuetainment, the Robert Bette David podcast. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He was the guy who did the drunk hotel interview with Alex. | ||
| Oh, life is very fragile. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And so I believe he's in Fort Lauderdale or somewhere in Florida. | ||
| Alex was there, and then he was spotted in Omaha because his wife's family lives in Omaha. | ||
| And from what I understand from a court thing, he was out of town because his father-in-law was ill. | ||
| Very ill. | ||
| But he's been doing some of his show out of like a... | ||
| Downgraded studio. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And it's just, it doesn't have a lot of charm to it. | ||
| It was very hard for me to, you know, in the state you're in where things are kind of chaotic and a mess in your head, it's sometimes hard to work. | ||
| And, you know, listening to Alex in a dumb fake studio, it's hard. | ||
| It's a struggle. | ||
| I love the way that we talk about this because the idea of like, oh, it's sometimes hard to work. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| It's impossible to work. | ||
| That we can overcome it is absurd, and we don't always do a great job of it, but that we can do it is the ridiculous part. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Not that it happens. | ||
| Yeah, and, you know, like I was, I think we talked about this a little bit, that the, like, doing of the show, like, sitting here talking to you, this isn't work necessarily in the way that it's, like, really difficult to do, but, like, you know, sitting down and watching him, like... | ||
| It is a fake studio. | ||
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Oh, totally. | |
| It's a fake secondary studio. | ||
| And knowing, like, oh, you just went down to Florida to, you know, do all this shit. | ||
| Pretending this bankruptcy isn't hanging over your head. | ||
| You know, that is a struggle. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I get it. | ||
| And so I didn't find a whole lot that charmed me in the present day. | ||
| So this has basically just been a long-winded way of saying we're in the past. | ||
| We are in the past. | ||
| We're going to 2004. | ||
| March 1st. | ||
| We're into March. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Yeah, pretty exciting. | ||
| Things are moving. | ||
| Moving along. | ||
| We have time confirmed. | ||
| We have crossed the barrier of March. | ||
| And yeah, so March 1st, 2004. | ||
| All right. | ||
| It's going to be an interesting little thing. | ||
| Alex has one story that he is particularly invested in, and then he gets a call that he probably didn't want to take. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| So that will be something we experience and get to enjoy. | ||
| But first, let's say hello to some people who are wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Frederick Altamont Cornwall's Twistleton, 5th Earl of good old Ickenham. | ||
| But my pals call me Uncle Ale Watcher. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, happy birthday, Layla. | ||
| You're a policy wonk. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Otto the Sausage Dog listens to Knowledge Fight on the way to Doggy Daycare. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Habit. | ||
| I'm rapidly approaching your location. | ||
| Signed, Marcus. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, hey guys, after you end up winning the no ledge fight, we think you should take on some ledge fight. | ||
| If that goes well, we're confident you can even handle an all ledge fight. | ||
| Ledges be damned. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| That was long. | ||
| Getting you to blind read that was, I think, the greatest thing that happened when we switched over. | ||
| That was it. | ||
| We got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to Patrick Madrid is praying for Zach in Maine to match this donation. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little, little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ! | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| So, lest we left off in the past... | ||
| It's been a while since we were in the past. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, for me, it's been a long time. | ||
| Yeah, I think our last 2004 episode came out on the 19th. | ||
| So, one week ago. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Basically. | ||
| It's been forever since we were in the past. | ||
| It's been a long week, though. | ||
| It's been a long week. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it involved Alex going to see The Passion. | ||
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Right! | |
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Of course, that was also Don DeGrandpre. | ||
| Yes, it was the first time we met Don DeGrandpre. | ||
| Yeah, so he had that happen, and that has no bearing whatsoever on what happens on this episode. | ||
| However, long, distant, long time since we've heard from him, Paul Joseph Watson is going to be coming on the show to talk about a very serious issue. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I have Paul Watson. | ||
| He hasn't been on for three weeks. | ||
| The webmaster of PrisonPlanet.com. | ||
| We've broken several massive stories at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com. | ||
| He's the webmaster for PrisonPlanet. | ||
| A photo was found from a 1982 San Francisco Chronicle article where John Kerry, the congressman, is smiling and adoring Anton LaVey, the Satanist, at a meeting with him. | ||
| And, you know, people are saying, wow, look at this photo. | ||
| Well, don't forget... | ||
| Kerry's a member of a real satanic order that goes back hundreds of years to Germany and to 1832 in this country, the admitted U.S. branch of the Illuminati, according to the Associated Press and MSNBC. | ||
| So at infowars.com and prisonplanet.com, we have John Forbes Kerry with Anton LaVey shaking his hands, smiling at him with pleasure. | ||
| And then the article quotes Kerry as saying that Well, I believe that we're all divine internally and that every religion has the truth. | ||
| And Anton LaVey then says to him, this is the essence of Satanism. | ||
| Well done. | ||
| These are some quotes, man. | ||
| I mean, I don't know how you get around this if you carry. | ||
| I'm going to be honest. | ||
| If I had known that Kerry was a cool dude with Satanism, I think I would have been way more on his platform. | ||
| This is how easily swayed a dumb liberal like you is. | ||
| You hear that he likes the devil, and all of a sudden you're like, ooh, I don't mind his wishy-washy politics. | ||
| I think it's more just like, oh, well, there's at least something about you. | ||
| There's a personality trait that is emerging. | ||
| Something. | ||
| Yes, I mean, this is big. | ||
| I heard him talking about breaking a story about John Kerry, and I thought, well, maybe we're swift-boating. | ||
| Maybe this is where we're heading. | ||
| Anton LeVang. | ||
| We're Satan-boating. | ||
| Yeah, so we got this news article. | ||
| You got a picture? | ||
| You got some quotes? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The essence of Satanism is John Kerry, according to the satanic temple itself, the essence of Satanism. | ||
| I don't know how this didn't torpedo his campaign. | ||
| Strange. | ||
| It seems like that would be a really big deal. | ||
| So now, because of this... | ||
| The right-wing neocon types in the media, they're all on board with the Skull and Bones stuff now. | ||
| Of course they are! | ||
| Again, people handle the full horror of this. | ||
| Of course, the phony neocon Christian talk show hosts are all out exposing the fact now that, oh my gosh, he went to a meeting with Anton LaVey and was in the front page of the San Francisco Chronicle or in the front section of the San Francisco Chronicle. | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| This is unbelievable. | ||
| There's a picture of Cary with a big pentagram behind him, by the way. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| Oh, my gosh, he's a devil. | ||
| He's in skull and bones. | ||
| Lord, save us with Bush, your son. | ||
| I mean, basically, I've heard him imply that. | ||
| Bush is like this reincarnation. | ||
| He's like representing God. | ||
| It's like a pope or something. | ||
| It's blasphemous. | ||
| I've heard some Christian stations, he just... | ||
| Anointed by God and the Spirit of God's in him. | ||
| But Kerry's evil. | ||
| He's in that skull and bones. | ||
| But Bush is good. | ||
| It's good when he's in it. | ||
| It's good when he's... | ||
| When he's saying, I love Ozzy Osbourne, death and hell and blood. | ||
| I guess Bush loves Ozzy Osbourne. | ||
| It's so crazy how people would call a political figure like a god king or like a chosen by the Lord. | ||
| Alex has just indicted himself on charges of blasphemy. | ||
| It seems like he has. | ||
| Was it 2004? | ||
| No, the Osbournes would have been earlier than that, I think. | ||
| The reality show? | ||
| No idea. | ||
| No idea. | ||
| Because Ozzy had that moment in the sun when that show was on and everybody liked him for a bit. | ||
| I think what I've realized is through the couple of Kevin Smith references that we've talked about in the past couple of weeks, I've realized I think I'm six years off with all... | ||
| Pop culture references. | ||
| So whatever it is, it happened in, I think I'm going to call it something six years behind. | ||
| 2002 was the premiere. | ||
| You and I were both like, it's probably mid-90s, right? | ||
| I thought it was late 90s. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| No, 2002 to 2005. | ||
| So yeah, this is when the Osbournes was on and Ozzy was having his image rehab kind of thing going. | ||
| So yeah, it would make total sense for Bush to be like, I watched the Osbournes. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| He's an old man that nobody can understand. | ||
| He's toothless. | ||
| He's ridiculous now. | ||
| He literally cannot bite the head off of a bat. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Isn't he fun? | ||
| He's mad at somebody on the other side of the fence. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Where's Wilson, his neighbor? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| No, Wilson was a castaway. | ||
| Oh, I was thinking home improvement. | ||
| The same guy, though, right? | ||
| Wasn't it a volleyball on the other side of the fence? | ||
| So Alex has a guest on. | ||
| I just saw, what if they had the fence, and then they just taped a little circle over it? | ||
| Bloody handprint. | ||
| So Alex has a guest on, and he's going to prison later today. | ||
| Before I go any further, I just want to spend 5-10 minutes with him. | ||
| It's a horrible story. | ||
| We've had him on the show. | ||
| I have all the news articles. | ||
| He's done absolutely nothing. | ||
| Last year, South Texas, foreign troops, Mexican troops, illegals pouring across. | ||
| They're down there at a ranch. | ||
| They've got the national French media with them who documented it all and have testified. | ||
| Two illegals come across. | ||
| They give them blankets. | ||
| It was cold that morning. | ||
| Tell them, call the Border Patrol. | ||
| Hey, these guys are illegal. | ||
| They weren't hurt. | ||
| There's film of all this and photos. | ||
| National French media just so happened to be there. | ||
| They come and arrest Mr. Nethercott. | ||
| Do all this horrible stuff to him. | ||
| And then say he didn't show up for court and do all this stuff, which he did. | ||
| Well, now the governor is issued under the Patriot Act, and he has this directly from the prosecutor, Mr. North, that he's going to be arrested at 2 o 'clock Mountain. | ||
| That's in about two hours or three hours from now. | ||
| Yeah, so he's going to jail. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He did not just give blankets. | ||
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No! | |
| He was a humanitarian aide. | ||
| We talked about this. | ||
| Oh, I recall this dude. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| This is also the one who illegally detained high school students. | ||
| So he has a little bit of a vigilante career. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Where he's gone errant. | ||
| So yeah, he comes on and is like, I don't know what to do. | ||
| Go to jail and stop doing your kidnapping shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When did stop kidnapping not become an option? | ||
| I mean, it did for him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex has a big rant about how we're in trouble, we're in hell, and it ends about how you'd expect. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We are in hell! | ||
| We are in nightmare 1984 world! | ||
| I... | ||
| I was on a big liberal syndicated show. | ||
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They're like, you're right, the police state bush is bad, but we need this to keep us safe. | |
| And I said, what about cameras in school bathrooms? | ||
| Well, there's guns in schools. | ||
| You know, we've got to. | ||
| You know, we're so brainwashed now that, oh, cameras in bathrooms, that's good. | ||
| That's not 1984. | ||
| What's wrong with you? | ||
| What happened to us? | ||
| What happened to us? | ||
| Debbie Morrow, if you want to stop drinking the poison they're putting in the water, let me tell you, you're insane if you drink dab water. | ||
| You're nuts. | ||
| Oh, I know you saw Dr. Strangelove, I'm a cook, saying that. | ||
| You know, Stanley Kubrick. | ||
| I'm weird. | ||
| I don't want you drinking fluoride and nickel and mercury and all the garbage. | ||
| I'm bad. | ||
| The movie says I'm crazy. | ||
| The TV says people are nuts, and they say, clean your water. | ||
| So don't listen to me. | ||
| But let's go to Debbie. | ||
| Don't listen to her either. | ||
| These are products made in America. | ||
| Debbie, tell folks real quick about the specials. | ||
| Oh, Debbie. | ||
| So good. | ||
| Debbie, tell people about the specials. | ||
| Tell folks about the specials. | ||
| I almost want that to be a dinner experience, you know, to just have somebody come up and scream at you for no reason about nonsense and they'll be like, all right, your waiter's going to tell you the specials and then just leave. | ||
| Doom be upon the hungry! | ||
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There are sinners in the hands of an angry god! | |
| But it has to be someone screaming warnings about not eating food or something. | ||
| Or not ordering a side. | ||
| If the table does not share a plate of fries, then all of you shall die! | ||
| It has to be something that involves add-ons. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Don't eat too much. | ||
| Because there's dessert. | ||
| So, we get back to the Carey story here a little bit. | ||
| There's a big hoopla, and I think it's important that people finally understand. | ||
| A picture tells a thousand words. | ||
| John Carey basically worshipping Anton LaVey, fawning on him. | ||
| Sometimes pictures don't tell the right thousand words. | ||
| Anton LaVey was a bombshell blonde or something, the way Carey's fawning over him. | ||
| Yeah, it's Carrie and Han LaVey meeting in San Francisco, a big pentagram behind them, one of their little functions, and, you know, it's when Marilyn Monroe does it, or Sammy Davis Jr., it's all cute, it's funny, and it's just for fun, you know, like Bush and Scull and Bones. | ||
| Ah, the Satanism's just for fun, you know how it is. | ||
| Very Christian, very conservative. | ||
| I'm evil and liberal because I'm against it. | ||
| I'm pro-gun. | ||
| I'm liberal, too. | ||
| You know how that works. | ||
| Now you're from big government. | ||
| Gun control at borders are conservative. | ||
| But this is, of course, you've got a real-life Satanist meeting with a carnival huckster Satanist. | ||
| I mean, well, of course you're going to have a love fest. | ||
| And, uh, Kerry, I got the quote here, said, I have no problem with Anton LaVey. | ||
| I believe we all have deity inside of us, and all religions are good. | ||
| Then he said, oh, yes, this is the essence of Satanism. | ||
| Yes, um-ah. | ||
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Um-ah. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Question. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which one is the real-life Satanist and which one is the carnival huckster Satanist? | ||
| I think Anton LaVey is the carnival one. | ||
| But shouldn't he be the- Because John Kerry's the one who is in Skull and Bones. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he should be the real one. | ||
| Right, but Anton LaVey is the Satanist. | ||
| Yeah, but it's all just fun and games. | ||
| He's a showman. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Also, now might be the time to tell you this is entirely fake. | ||
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Oh, no! | |
| I was really hoping. | ||
| I was really dreaming. | ||
| I was dreaming for... | ||
| It's a Photoshop picture on a fake article. | ||
| Oh, of course it is. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| The quotes are fake. | ||
| It never changes. | ||
| The picture's fake. | ||
| The essence of Satanism never changes. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Yeah, Alex is reporting on just an entirely bullshit. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| The onion. | ||
| There's a lot of tells, too. | ||
| Like, I went and I looked at the picture, and it's very poorly photoshopped, number one. | ||
| That's an issue. | ||
| Number two, very intentionally, the date on the top of the paper is creased over a little bit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So it says, like, Sunday the blank, the 17th of 1908, and then there's not a... | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| And so, like, you can tell, like... | ||
| Someone wanted this to not quite be definitive. | ||
| But then also, there's only two Sundays in the 80s that would have been on the 17th. | ||
| Oh, foiled by the calendar again! | ||
| Yeah, and one of them... | ||
| One is before Carrie was in office. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then the other is someone went through the San Francisco Chronicle and it's not in there. | ||
| But yeah, it's also a terrible Photoshop. | ||
| All entirely fake. | ||
| And Alex is running with it as... | ||
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Why not? | |
| One of the big stories. | ||
| Biggest story in the world! | ||
| This guy's a fucking idiot. | ||
| It would be the biggest story in the world. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| If it were real. | ||
| With the desire that the right had to attack Carrie. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| That would have been devastating. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| If this were real, you would already have known about it since we live in the future. | ||
| And Alex is pretending like the right-wing folks are covering it. | ||
| And I wouldn't be too surprised if some other people got duped by it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Alex fell for it pretty hard. | ||
| I mean, man, there were days when people couldn't quite suss out bad Photoshop, and it seems silly in retrospect. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| This one is particularly... | ||
| Like, if you look at it... | ||
| Somebody cut a picture out of a magazine and then fucking glued it to the... | ||
| They definitely don't look like they're in the same room. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Anton LaVey also... | ||
| They don't look the right sizes, even, kind of. | ||
| That's an issue. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So... | ||
| The Casey Nethercott situation, Alex wasn't even going to have him on to complain about how he was about to go to prison. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he got a call. | ||
| He had to do a favor for somebody that he now does a disservice to. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Got a call at about 10 o 'clock this morning, about an hour before I went on air, and then of course we had Casey Nethercott on from Ranch Rescue. | ||
| The governor's publicly sent him to the Patriot Act. | ||
| They're just going to arrest him without charges for running Camp Thunderbird, exposing the illegal aliens with a ranch rescue in Arizona where two million illegals come across yearly in Cochise County alone. | ||
| That's the Fed's own numbers. | ||
| John Stepmiller called me. | ||
| You know, I'm friends with John. | ||
| John has his own show weeknights here on the station, on the network. | ||
| I quit doing the Saturday show with John just because I'm too busy. | ||
| I'm doing all these interviews. | ||
| I'm exhausted. | ||
| You don't like John. | ||
| I've already done two interviews this morning. | ||
| You don't like John. | ||
| I'm making a film. | ||
| But John called me, a testament to John, and he said, hey, Casey Nethercott needs your help. | ||
| By the time I get on air today, he's going to already be in jail, having to turn himself in on the National Guard to come into Camp Thunderbird there on the border, where they're there simply peaceably getting shot at by the Mexican troops, not firing back and videotaping the Mexican troops, drug dealing and the rest of it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Bringing the drugs across. | ||
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Totally true. | |
| They've killed federal officers in the area, the Mexican troops have. | ||
| So, John said, oh, by the way, also my dad died this morning at 8 o 'clock. | ||
| So, I mean, here's John. | ||
| I just learned his dad died, and then he's busy calling me so I can have Casey Nethercott on. | ||
| Of course, John didn't know I was going to say this on the air, and I didn't even know if he wanted me to, but just, you know, we're... | ||
| We really care about this fight. | ||
| I mean, I am upset. | ||
| I bet John's upset now, too. | ||
| I would be very upset. | ||
| Wow, that's not cool. | ||
| Why did you say all of that? | ||
| I will never understand why people are friends with Alex. | ||
| It's baffling. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| You could just tell that story, and he's... | ||
| He wouldn't be on air by the time he has to turn himself in. | ||
| He's fine. | ||
| You don't have to go and put his business on the streets like that. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| That's not cool. | ||
| He would be in jail when that guy's show started, so I'm going to have him on. | ||
| End of story? | ||
| Right, because you know what? | ||
| We help each other out in this fight. | ||
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Totally. | |
| No need to do this. | ||
| None. | ||
| Only if you have a personal interest in kind of being a dick. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Or maybe Alex just thinks... | ||
| Me saying that his dad died and he's still so interested in getting this information out or whatever is going to be a testament to how committed John is. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Not realizing that, like, that's very personal, private business. | ||
| And it's up to John when he wants to come forth with that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And share that with the public. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| I think Alex might think that he's paying him a compliment when in actuality he's doing him dirty. | ||
| I mean, yeah, we've all had the friend who's, like, revealed some information to people that you didn't. | ||
| You didn't want them to know it. | ||
| And you're like, that's kind of a shitty thing to do. | ||
| And they were like, oh, I didn't realize that. | ||
| Alex does this to everyone constantly. | ||
| On the radio. | ||
| No, that's the problem. | ||
| Your shitty friend is only revealed to some people you know. | ||
| It's not on the fucking radio. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So I find myself disappointed with Alex. | ||
| What for? | ||
| Well, just about everything. | ||
| But most recently that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so I was thrilled that a caller calls in who is also disappointed with Alex. | ||
| Rod in Texas. | ||
| Rod, you're on the air. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
|
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Yeah, Alex. | |
| I'm about ready to raise your blood pressure about 10 points, so be prepared. | ||
| I am very disappointed in you, to be honest with you. | ||
| I've been listening to you for about 10 years, and my opinion of you has really gone downhill, and here's why. | ||
| I got really excited about this. | ||
| I like this. | ||
| This is a great start to any conversation. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've lost a lot of faith in you over 10 years. | ||
| Here's why. | ||
| Hey, buddy. | ||
| I listen to you every day, and I have for about 10 years. | ||
| You suck now. | ||
| Let me tell you about it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So here he's going to tell them about it. | ||
| Or try. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| I am very disappointed in you, to be honest with you. | ||
| I've been listening to you for about 10 years, and my opinion of you has really gone downhill, and here's why. | ||
| What I've been hearing from you is a lot of talk, talking the talk, but not walking the walk. | ||
| Sure, I don't do enough like you do. | ||
|
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| You got all the answers. | ||
| You get out there and you bust your... | ||
|
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Yes, I do. | |
| I absolutely do. | ||
| Okay. | ||
|
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Let me just tell you how I do that. | |
| No, no, let me finish. | ||
| Let me finish. | ||
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Put him on hold. | |
| Oh, man. | ||
| I can appreciate that guy's response of like... | ||
| Yeah, I do. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Because Alex is trying to be a dick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm sure you go out. | ||
| You walk the walk, don't you? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes, I do, Alex. | ||
| Well, I mean, that's his opportunity to intimidate you into being a little bit wishy-washy. | ||
| And you're like, you know, I could do more. | ||
| No, you can't do that. | ||
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No. | |
| Just step up to the plate, hit it out of the park. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Even if you feel like maybe you do have some points that are assailable, you just ignore it. | ||
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Shut up. | |
| Keep going. | ||
| He would do the same to you. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And then he just puts them on hold. | ||
| And then he puts them on hold. | ||
| So this seems to keep happening. | ||
| Put him on hold. | ||
| Look, it isn't about Alex Jones, okay? | ||
| And I've helped defeat legislation in this state. | ||
| I've helped support those that are in trouble and get them out of trouble. | ||
| I've done the best I can. | ||
| I've never said I was perfect. | ||
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Okay, let me tell you. | |
| No, no, no, put him back on hold. | ||
| But people that call in and say, I'm not good, I'm not doing enough, frankly, I think that's a sick joke. | ||
| So you've got about another minute left. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
|
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What you're doing is you're acting like a sportscaster at a game, and all you're doing is you're narrating and you're analyzing the game. | |
| You're not a leader. | ||
| You're not a leader whatsoever. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I've never said that I want to be your leader. | ||
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No, I didn't say that. | |
| Put him back on hold. | ||
| Put him back on hold. | ||
| Man, he loves putting people on hold. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| I would too. | ||
| Once you have that power in any conversation to put people on hold, you can never relinquish it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And especially if you need to, like... | ||
| Frame people's positions in a certain way in order to wiggle around them. | ||
| Then it is very helpful. | ||
| No, you can't clarify. | ||
| I'm going to put the boundaries on this conversation and you can live within those or you can leave. | ||
| And then I can say something and you'll respond and I'll pretend that you're not responding. | ||
| And then we'll be done. | ||
| So Alex is not a leader, right? | ||
| He just documents. | ||
| He documents the evils. | ||
| That's what he has for this call. | ||
| See, you're frustrated, you're mad about the state of affairs, and so now it's my fault. | ||
| We had committees of correspondence in this country for a decade leading up to 1776 that exposed what our rights were, how they were being violated, and who was doing it. | ||
| I am chronicling the outrages, just like the jungle chronicled the abuses in the factories. | ||
| You have to educate people about evils so they will then rise up and stand against it. | ||
| And my message is to tell others to stand up and spread the word. | ||
| And I've never seen people as receptive. | ||
| I've never seen people waking up like this. | ||
| And how dare you say I'm not doing a good job. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| Now go ahead, buddy. | ||
| You tell us what you've done. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Put it back on hold. | ||
| Put it back on hold. | ||
| You tell us what you've done. | ||
| You tell us how you... | ||
| I'm sure you've got some magical legal thing you do, right? | ||
| That was a rhetorical question! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And yeah, so Alex at the end there's like, I'm sure you've got some magical legal thing. | ||
| He's just like implying that this guy is obviously a sovereign citizen of some sort that has a magic word that he can say. | ||
| Tubal Cain. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| I mean, like, sure. | ||
| Alex, his point is somewhat fair. | ||
| Except that all of the things that he's saying are fucking bullshit. | ||
| So, like, he's documenting the evils and having a correspondence committee or whatever, but he's just riling people up with nonsense in order to serve and further his political means or whatever. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| He is not Upton Sinclair writing The Jungle. | ||
| He's Roger Kipling writing The Jungle Book. | ||
| He is far more racist and making up bullshit to convince people that there are savages out there. | ||
| That is well put. | ||
| So this caller, what does he actually want? | ||
| He gets to it here. | ||
| And actually, I mean, this caller is right. | ||
| You tell us how you... | ||
| I'm sure you've got some magical legal thing you do, right? | ||
| But you tell us how you're saving us. | ||
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Let me give you a real-time example. | |
| Casey called up, and he was pleading for help. | ||
| If we had a militia, if we really had a militia, and you supported the militia... | ||
| You mean a bunch of feds trying to frame other people? | ||
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Well, about him being taken in. | |
| And we got something like, Mark Kornke advised or advocated the Mop Bucket Brigade. | ||
| He had 10,000 people out there. | ||
| Yes, let's have the confrontation. | ||
| But you will never say that, because you're walking the fine line, because you don't want to be shut down, because you're milking... | ||
| Everything you can, because this is your, quote, your job, your profession. | ||
| It is my job. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thanks for the call. | ||
| And let me answer this idiot. | ||
| I'm not going to call you an idiot. | ||
| I just don't appreciate you saying those things to me. | ||
| Again, he's not mad about the New World Order. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| He's sitting there saying, get violent. | ||
| Well, it's free country, buddy. | ||
| Free country. | ||
| Caller didn't say to get violent. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| He's talking about the specific case of Casey Nethercott, who called in. | ||
| He's like, I don't know what to do. | ||
| I need help. | ||
| You know, that is what his call was. | ||
| I have to turn myself in later today, or else they're going to send people to come get me. | ||
| So this caller, if Alex believes the story that Casey is telling him... | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| or something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Like, there is no other response to that than get some people over there. | |
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Like the Bundy standoff kind of thing. | ||
| is what Alex should be calling them to do. | ||
| And this caller is correct in saying as much that you're not doing that because You make money off this shit. | ||
| No! | ||
| You know, the ironic part of all of this, right, is that the thing that makes the most sense to do is hold a standoff with the United States government because they're inevitably going to do some illegal shit and then later on, whenever it all settles down and you're in court, you'll get off on their technicality. | ||
| Well, see, this is the long game. | ||
| That's the trick! | ||
| They always lose in court because they do too much illegal shit because they're like, how dare you not go to court? | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Don't give that advice to Alex's folks. | ||
| It's great advice. | ||
| I think that this is all based on a faulty, faulty premise, and that is Casey's story. | ||
| Because he's lying, and he abused these immigrants, and he deserves to be arrested. | ||
| But if you live in a world where you solidly believe that that is not the case, and he was very nice, and he gave them blankets, and there's all this evidence that he's totally innocent, and the government doesn't care, then that is a point where you should probably do that. | ||
| I mean, if I'm at a protest... | ||
| Based on what they believe, there is no reason that this should not be a standoff. | ||
| If I am at a protest and the cops grab somebody, it is incumbent upon all of us to grab that person back. | ||
| I am not going to just say that it's okay for them to be arrested and that that's an acceptable thing for them to just do. | ||
| Ideally... | ||
| We are in a conflict and that means you don't get to just do whatever you want. | ||
| At the very least, I'm not saying it has to end up being an armed conflict where you're shooting at the police or anything. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| But showing up there as like at least solidarity or something along to make a political point to force a confrontation in some sort of way that. | ||
| that will gather media attention and humanize the situation of this Casey guy who's being unjustly jammed up by the government. | ||
| That is incumbent upon you to do if you're someone like Alex. | ||
| But he doesn't believe it. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It was and is a thing that was a good idea for the Black Panthers to watch people get arrested with guns in their hands. | ||
| You know, like, just listen. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| If this is a crime, if we're going to do the law, fine. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| But we're both going to do it. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And we're here to hold you accountable because nobody else is. | ||
| So that makes sense to me. | ||
| And it's not violent. | ||
| It is accountability. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But here's the difference with that. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Like, there's a different opinion between the law and... | ||
| Casey Nethercott and his friends about what the law is. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| So, there wouldn't be a situation where you could come to an agreement of, like, well, if we're doing the law, that's fine. | ||
| But if you're doing other stuff, it's not. | ||
| Because it is other stuff, by definition. | ||
| No, no, no, that's the problem. | ||
| So, at the same time, like, I think what this reveals is that Alex doesn't even believe Casey's story. | ||
| And he's just using this for his own purposes. | ||
| It's something that works well for him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But if he believed it, then it would... | ||
| Be something that would be a necessary inflection point of some kind. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I mean, that's obviously the problem. | ||
| It's a fundamentally unbelievable story. | ||
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Right. | |
| And Alex knows that. | ||
| At its core, that story is ridiculous. | ||
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Right. | |
| And that's not what this caller is saying, because the caller believes it, too. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And so that is kind of threatening to Alex in an interesting way. | ||
| And so he gets real mad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And really bummed out for the rest of this episode because this guy raised his blood pressure. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, of course. | ||
| The grifter and the believer can never get along. | ||
| No. | ||
| They just can't. | ||
| No, they will be at odds with each other. | ||
| But yet the believer will give the grifter all their money. | ||
| Until the point when they realize, oh no. | ||
| There is a point. | ||
| And then they'll give another grifter some money. | ||
| I was going to say, yeah, they're going to go to a different grifter. | ||
| A grifter with a slightly more harsh message. | ||
| Somebody who will give me a different belief. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So Alex gets another call, and this person has a sister who's a public defender, but not a good one. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| What? | ||
| Let's talk to John in Tennessee, then we'll go to Regina, Dave, and others. | ||
| Go ahead, John. | ||
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I'm a paralegal who might be able to help Ranch Rescue without violence, but everyone does have the right to self-defense. | |
| That's what I said, yes. | ||
| He wants me to sit here on the radio and do that, but he won't do it himself. | ||
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Well, Casey Nevercott should never plead guilty or waivers his right to sue for false arrest. | |
| He hasn't. | ||
| They just keep arresting him and putting him in solitary confinement with no charges. | ||
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My sister is a public defender in Tucson, Arizona, but she's never won a case out of thousands of cases, so I don't recommend him relying on a public defender from the government. | |
| That's overworked, underpaid, no time, no case structure. | ||
| Everything is impossible. | ||
| Their entire job is based morally around trying to negotiate deals for less jail time and not innocence. | ||
| So I get it. | ||
| But it is still funny to never win a case out of thousands. | ||
| It's just funny. | ||
| It's just funny. | ||
| It's not my fault. | ||
| It's funny because of the way this guy is saying this. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's not her. | ||
| As if it was helpful. | ||
| He's your sister, man. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Also, Alex, this guy did not say you should do this, and he is unwilling to do it. | ||
| That guy seemed very willing. | ||
| He said yes, that is what he does as a thing. | ||
| But Alex, he needs reassurance from this caller, and I'm not sure he gets it totally. | ||
| Am I bad because I'm not calling for armed revolt right now? | ||
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Well, you do your part, and other people need to do their part. | |
| Yeah, but I don't think the answer is armed revolt, and I love these people that say, you need to go have an armed revolt, or you're a coward. | ||
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Well, there's a place for that, and if Ranch Rescue wants to study the law, and if they see the police breaking the law, they do have the right to self-defense and lawful use of justifiable homicide. | |
| Anybody has that right. | ||
| But notice, notice, they're not bad if they don't, but I'm bad because I don't. | ||
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Well, I... | |
| No comment on that. | ||
| Yeah, I wouldn't have commented the part about justifiable murder. | ||
| Yeah, I would have left that one alone. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Hey, you know, there's reasons to kill the cops. | ||
| That's not... | ||
| I don't even... | ||
| Let it go. | ||
| If a lawsuit doesn't work... | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
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Sometimes. | |
| That's the one that's weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that this caller might be closer to that other caller's side than to Alex's. | ||
| But yeah, it gets muddied in this... | ||
| This strange need that Alex has to have a hundred different reasons why he's right. | ||
| So there's a militia that comes down to stand with him. | ||
| It's probably the feds. | ||
| There's one. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| And then you got him trying to turn this into a thing where he's calling for armed violence. | ||
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Sure. | |
| He's not. | ||
| He didn't do that. | ||
| He's not asking Alex to call for the revolution or anything. | ||
| There's a... | ||
| It's so telling of his insincerity. | ||
| The inability to handle something like this where a caller calls in and suggests him do the thing that his beliefs imply. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And that's... | ||
| I mean, but who... | ||
| It's hard not to point to everybody at a certain point sooner or later being like, I believe this and then facing the choice. | ||
| And backing down. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| We've all been there. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| We've all come to a head with our beliefs and been like, well, for one reason or another, I can't follow through this time. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It happens. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But Alex can't deal with that being a regularity of existence. | ||
| It has to be, actually, I am still doing it. | ||
| Well, it's fine when you're a person. | ||
| You know, but when you're a demagogue type... | ||
| It's the toughest part. | ||
| That is not something that you can... | ||
| Because Alex is supposed to be fully thought out in all of his positions and everything is... | ||
| He knows everything and there's, you know, all this. | ||
| There's no room for that. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| If you're selling yourself as extraordinary, you can't be ordinary. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you know who is extraordinary? | ||
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Who? | |
| John Kerry? | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's going to come on and talk about all the important stories in the world. | ||
| And you might want to note that all of these stories are fake. | ||
| All right, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| We're now at the halfway point of this Monday global transmission. | ||
| A ton of news coming up. | ||
| We're about to go back to Regina, Dave, Jack, Elizabeth, and others that are patiently holding with our guest Paul Watson. | ||
| Hadn't been on the show in three weeks. | ||
| And I tell you, at PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com, he's the webmaster for Prison Planet. | ||
| Does a great job. | ||
| My wife's the webmaster for Infowars.com. | ||
| She does a wonderful job as well. | ||
| We've got some major news stories broken. | ||
| It looks like they're about to engage in the stage capture of Bin Laden, as we said they would two years ago, as I said they would. | ||
| They're way off. | ||
| We've got John Kerry with Anton LaVey. | ||
| Very revealing. | ||
| We've got the NRA engaged in covert gun grabbing and disarmament. | ||
| Benedict Arnold. | ||
| We've got a lot of important things happening here in the Infowars. | ||
| All fake. | ||
| Yeah, that might as well have ended with we've got a unicorn sighting. | ||
| Like, that is absurd. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's skiing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Just what are we doing here? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, of course, Bin Laden's going to be discovered in 2004. | ||
| Carrie is pictured with the Satanist. | ||
| I don't even know how to... | ||
| And the NRA is taking your guns. | ||
| I genuinely don't even know how to parody that in a regular news organization. | ||
| What could a regular news organization say of a three-thing nonsense that would equal in ridiculousness that? | ||
| It's bananas! | ||
| Yeah, but it all makes sense on his show. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Yeah, like, if you're watching this, it's like, yep, that's the news. | ||
| No, I mean, because that's kind of the problem with the parodying of it for, like, CNBC or something. | ||
| It's like, that's just them doing the normal news. | ||
| In his world, it's the same thing. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So, what Paul needs to do for Alex first is reassure him about that bad call. | ||
| Well, of course, he's feeling bad. | ||
| And Paul Watson, good to have you on the show with us, sir. | ||
| Great to be back on the air, Alex. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| You know, I was just thinking, did you hear that guy say, I'm bad because I'm not calling for violence? | ||
| Yeah, I heard it. | ||
| I get this basically every day, the fact that people say, oh, you're in it to make money, and if I had a dollar for everybody that said that, then I wouldn't need to be in it to make money in the first place, because when you look at these people who make these accusations, often you find that... | ||
| Those people themselves are doing absolutely nothing on their own part, and they're just slinging mud at anyone who's... | ||
| Well, it's like somebody called last week and was mad that Mel Gibson's movie was doing well. | ||
| It was on Thursday, and good. | ||
| He makes good films. | ||
| Now he can make more. | ||
| But my point is, I say make copies of my videos. | ||
| Oh, that's not good enough. | ||
| You're supposed to have a cardboard box you live in, and you stand there on the street corner, and you don't... | ||
| By the way, the government takes your money by force. | ||
| We're bad because we say, here we have a book or we have a video. | ||
| You can make copies of it, too. | ||
| We're suddenly bad. | ||
| But forget that argument. | ||
| The other argument was, you know, you're no leader. | ||
| You need to call for violence. | ||
| Well, notice the people always doing that. | ||
| I remember people would tell militia leaders to do that. | ||
| They'd sit there in the shadows and do it. | ||
| The militia leader would shoot their mouth off, the feds would grab them, and then suddenly the person that told them to do it would jump up and be in the article, long-time informant, said that he recorded the violence statements. | ||
| It's always the long-time informant. | ||
| So they know we're winning peaceably. | ||
| They know we're hurting them and exposing their crimes. | ||
| So they want to get us to prematurely move with violence. | ||
| I'm praying we can avert violence. | ||
| If it goes to martial law, and believe me, you'll know when you're in total martial law, then we have no choice, Paul. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, I think he said that we're in martial law stuff now. | ||
| We're definitely within the... | ||
| We've been... | ||
| So I guess you won't know. | ||
| Yeah, that is kind of the problem, apparently. | ||
| You'll know when you see it, but also maybe not, and maybe I'll be wishy-washy to the very last. | ||
| The problem is the seeing it part, is even if I haven't seen it, that's the problem. | ||
| Yeah, and I don't think that this guy had a problem with Alex making money. | ||
| I think it was that making money is getting in the way of you being sincere to what appears to be your cause. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think what is going on is Alex is trying to turn the conversation from one that is about following through with your beliefs to one that is about whether or not you can ever listen to an impure person. | ||
| Do you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, it's a purity test question. | ||
| We have all sinned. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I'm not perfect. | ||
| Well, you're not perfect. | ||
| Like, he's trying to do that, because fuck it. | ||
| Yeah, obviously. | ||
| But he can't deal with a conversation where it's like, if you believe this is true, then you have to do this. | ||
| Yeah, how could you let Casey get arrested if you have any sway on people, like, being able to mobilize and help him in some way, or make a difference? | ||
| Like, even if it is just... | ||
| Do something, like, not violent, not blow something up, not shoot people, but have a big enough gathering of people that you get media attention to this unjust arrest. | ||
| How can you not... | ||
| Like, be a part of facilitating that if you believe the things that you're reporting about him. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| If you believe that Trump killed 12 million people, that's disqualifying. | ||
| Whether you think it was on purpose or if he was tricked. | ||
| Because that means that if he gets elected again... | ||
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Oh, you're talking about the vaccine. | |
| Yeah, if he gets elected again, then he can be tricked into killing 12 million people again. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| You know, like, these are disqualifying things. | ||
| You can't wave them away. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| In this case, I really wish that the caller was more on the line of, like, you don't believe the things you're saying. | ||
| Because the accusation is still, he believes the things that he's saying, but he's using them to make money instead of... | ||
| He doesn't believe the stuff that he thinks about Casey, because the extremeness of the things that are being reported... | ||
| About, like, how illegal this arrest is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It would be impossible to let that stand. | ||
| Sir, sir, I think what you're missing is that I don't believe any of this shit. | ||
| I believe John Kerry met with the devil. | ||
| You are thinking I'm not sincere in my beliefs. | ||
| Sir, I have no beliefs. | ||
| Come get me. | ||
| What do you got? | ||
| So this John Kerry picture comes up with Paul Joseph Watson. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| This very real 100%. | ||
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I've gotta say this about Paul. | |
| Real shithead in the present. | ||
| Real shithead for many years. | ||
| But you gotta give him his due. | ||
| He did tell Alex to stop covering Sandy Hook. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That is definable. | ||
| It is provable from the time. | ||
| True. | ||
| And sometimes he has instincts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because he's telling Alex that this is probably fake. | ||
| So here's how that goes. | ||
| But let's get into Satanism. | ||
| Skull and Bones, this new article going back to 1982 with John Forbes Carey and his master, Anton LaVey. | ||
| His master! | ||
| Well, word of caution on that. | ||
| Still investigating it, but I've had a few emails which say that this photo is actually staged. | ||
| Obviously, we're not going to lie to people. | ||
| We had the photo of Carey in the anti-war rally with Jane Fonda, which later came out of stage. | ||
| And the article, which is from the San Francisco Chronicle, is dated Sunday, July 17, 1982. | ||
| Now, a lot of people have said that there was no Sunday, July 17, 1982. | ||
| It was, in fact, a Saturday. | ||
| So it seems at the moment, and we have to confirm this, obviously we'll keep people updated, that this may be another example of how they try to muddy the waters on the fact that... | ||
| People are pointing out Kerry's involvement in Skull and Bones along with his cousin George Bush. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I went and saw some articles that have now been written about it and I looked at that photo. | ||
| I mean, it looks real to me. | ||
| Really? | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Because what Paul is saying is that date doesn't exist. | ||
| It's a fake date. | ||
| And Alex's response is, photo looks good. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| The paper wrote the date wrong. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| Alex, you are really indicating how badly you want to believe that this is real. | ||
| I mean, it is like, maybe this is an example of them muddying the waters. | ||
| Maybe it's an example of you being so voraciously in need of anything that justifies your ridiculous opinions that you're willing to believe in nonsense. | ||
| So here's the two things that are happening that are just bananas. | ||
| One is Alex's desperation to believe this to the point of, like, That date doesn't exist. | ||
| I'm going to ignore that and say the picture looks good. | ||
| That's one piece of evidence. | ||
| And then the second thing is Paul's instincts are sharp. | ||
| Because he is now accepting that this is probably fake. | ||
| And so what he's doing is coming up with a secondary story. | ||
| And that is that the globalists put this out in order to be discredited. | ||
| Because eventually it'll be shown to be fake. | ||
| And then that discredits all the stories about Carrie being in Skull and Bones. | ||
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This is a... | |
| It's a false... | ||
| It's a limited hangout, baby! | ||
| This is a honey trap! | ||
| It's pretty cool. | ||
| And at the same time, one, he 100% knows this is fake. | ||
| And two, he's doing this... | ||
| In a way that is both like, Alex, you're not stupid for thinking this was real. | ||
| Just to be clear, Alex, you're a very smart person. | ||
| This is totally fine that you believe that this nonsense is real. | ||
| I think that's great. | ||
| But also, in case you were wondering, I'm still investigating. | ||
| We're still investigating. | ||
| We're still investigating. | ||
| The jury's out. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Nah. | ||
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Nah, dude. | |
| So anyway, a caller calls in and brings up another reason that this is fake. | ||
| And here's how Alex responds to that. | ||
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But I do have a question for you in regards to one of the articles that you have on your website today. | |
| Sure. | ||
| You had a picture of Anton LaVey with John Kerry. | ||
| Yeah, and we don't know if that's accurate, Paul says. | ||
| We're trying to find out. | ||
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Okay, because I actually posted it on a message board, and we've been talking about it on this message board, and one of the guys says that it mentions John Kerry as a congressman. | |
| And it's supposed to be from 1982. | ||
| However, John Kerry wasn't even a congressman until 1985. | ||
| No, he was a congressman. | ||
| He says he's been over 20 years in Congress. | ||
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Well, I checked it up on John Kerry's own website, and it says that he was elected to Congress in 1985. | |
| Yeah, Paul brought that up in the last hour. | ||
| That what they do is we have all this real stuff out there, and then they'll put out disinfo to then be discredited, and then, oh, I heard that isn't true. | ||
| He isn't a member of Skull and Bones. | ||
| So we'll try to get to the bottom of it. | ||
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Okay. | |
| All right. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| That's pretty much it. | ||
| We were just trying to figure out whether it was a real image. | ||
| Well, it sure looks real. | ||
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It does. | |
| It does. | ||
| You got that right. | ||
| You already answered your own question! | ||
| He wasn't a congressman until three years afterwards. | ||
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There's no other questions that need to be asked. | |
| The answer is found! | ||
| Well, to be fair, like I said, the date is creased a little bit. | ||
| So there could be, like, the people saying it's 1982 could be wrong. | ||
| It could be a 5. It could be a 1985. | ||
| I think 88 was the year that the Sunday would have matched up right. | ||
| So it could be that. | ||
| That's the way you could play it if you wanted to do that. | ||
| But... | ||
| Yeah, so it's, I mean, it's just fake as shit, but Alex is hanging on so hard. | ||
| Still looks good, he says, and also is trying to dispute when Kerry got into Congress just so he can hold on to this hoax. | ||
| One of the most exhaustively detailed things is just when people went to Congress. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, people are proud of it, so they, you know, getting elected's a big deal. | ||
| So absurdly detailed and exhaustively written about. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So, we're still looking into this one. | ||
| I mean, for people who love the idea of that, like, one argument solving legal cases of just being like, ha-ha! | ||
| It is because of da-ba-ba on the ba-ba-ba. | ||
| And then you get to walk away, you know, like the king? | ||
| This is the most smoking gun evidence you could have. | ||
| He wasn't there! | ||
| I think better evidence would just be there's a big pentagram behind him and the photoshop looks like shit. | ||
| There's definitely that. | ||
| There's definitely that. | ||
| Ah, fun. | ||
| So yeah, I wonder, I'm excited to see if the next day he has a retraction. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| He doesn't have to retract it because it can be a globalist psyop. | ||
| Like they have said, it's so good. | ||
| Even when you're wrong, you have an opportunity to just pivot it a tiny bit and make it a larger conspiracy that actually works for you. | ||
| And honestly, with an internet prank hoax like this... | ||
| How's anyone ever going to really say if it was the globalists or not? | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Even if you find out who posted it the first time, it could be, oh, sock puppet account of George Soros. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's so dumb. | ||
| It is one of those things that's so deceptively easy. | ||
| That you think like, oh man, that would be a good thing, but it's too easy. | ||
| It takes your soul away to have things come to you that easily, where you can be both wrong and right and it never matters. | ||
| You can just say whatever you want, and if it is wrong, you just pivot slightly and be like, aha, they told me to say it! | ||
| The fact that I'm wrong is part of the conspiracy. | ||
| Oh my god, you drive me insane, sir! | ||
| Yeah, it is a fun game in terms of like, it requires almost no effort, but when you get used to putting in zero effort, Breaks you. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And then, I mean, we see where he's at now. | ||
| You see what happens. | ||
| So, let this be a cautionary tale about... | ||
| Strive for things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Don't believe that pictures of Carrie with the devil are real. | ||
| I mean, that should almost be like a map point. | ||
| You are here. | ||
| If you believe that pictures of Carrie and such are there, you are here and you can see where you're going to go. | ||
| Well, yeah, I mean, like, just put it on a macro level. | ||
| Believing all kinds of bullshit on social media, you're here. | ||
| And then a little bit later, just a picture of Alex in the present. | ||
| This is where you will end up. | ||
| Ooh, ooh. | ||
| At least intellectually. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, you know, we come to the end of this, and this is an interesting little bit of an adventure through a day in the life. | ||
| It was fun! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was a delight! | ||
| Yeah, in terms of... | ||
| Some Alex content that you can get. | ||
| This was pretty... | ||
| I don't even think we had anything anti-Semitic today. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's downright miraculous. | ||
| If it is, it's crypto as hell. | ||
| You got us. | ||
| We're pretty attuned at this point. | ||
| So yeah, you just get this fun little charade about Anton LaVey. | ||
| Alex having to wrestle with people telling him it's fake at the end, and Alex having a caller who takes the piss out of him a little bit, and he gets pissed off. | ||
| That's fun! | ||
| That's a good day! | ||
| That is the fun part about, just like, listen, we have three hours to fill, like it or not. | ||
| There's no, like, oh, we've run out of news today, so we're going to take the next hour off. | ||
| Which means some days it's like there's nothing going on. | ||
| We're talking about Anton LaVey and John Kerry photoshopped in the same picture on a fake news article from a year that didn't happen. | ||
| Here's the trouble, though. | ||
| Like, slow news day or not, Alex is covering that. | ||
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That's a good point. | |
| That's big. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| What a fool I've been. | ||
| They could literally have killed it with Bin Laden that day. | ||
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Alex probably bumped multiple stories in order to cover that. | |
| This is like the fertile ground for him. | ||
| Ah, that's the stuff. | ||
| That's the stuff. | ||
| So, we will be back. | ||
| But, yeah, you know, the... | ||
| You know, you could be in a bit of a bummer sometimes, and I have been, and, you know, it'll pass. | ||
| It'll pass. | ||
| We'll make it through to the other side, and the other side eventually leads to Manchester. | ||
| But until then, Jordan, we have a web. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX. | ||
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Clark. | |
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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