Today, Dan and Jordan watch on as Alex attempts to make new friends and rekindle lost connections. In this installment, Alex forges bonds with another weirdo named Alex, a lunatic Bilderberg "expert," and a woods-dwelling Holocaust denier.
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| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| knowledge fight need money Andy in Kansas Andy in Kansas Andy in Kansas Andy in Kansas you're on the air thanks for holding I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody! | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| I have a quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| My bright spot today, Jordan, is, as long-time listeners of the show will know, last year we had the dreamy, creamy summer, and we did not do it this year because it's too much. | ||
| I went through a lot of ice creams. | ||
| I couldn't think of another thing that would be creamy that I would want to eat a bunch of. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I am thinking about the chilly, willy winter. | ||
| I'm thinking about the possibility of... | ||
| I should have waited until you weren't taking a sip. | ||
| That was really dangerous. | ||
| You almost did a spit take. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| I drank it. | ||
| I swallowed! | ||
| Well done. | ||
| Yeah, I'm thinking about that as, like, more ice creams or maybe, like, popsicles. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| But, I mean, what variation is there in popsicles? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, they're just, like, in a different colors. | ||
| Iced coffees. | ||
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Oof. | |
| Iced coffee? | ||
| Actually, I would go with an iced coffee popsicle. | ||
| No, I meant various iced coffees as the theme for the chilly willy winter. | ||
| Oh, now popsicles is the way to go. | ||
| I don't think it is. | ||
| Got to get different shapes of popsicle? | ||
| That's not going to make that much difference. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| No, you're right. | ||
| I think I might have to go back to ice cream. | ||
| What about a dreamsicle? | ||
| Does that count as a popsicle or ice cream? | ||
| I mean, this is the hot dog sandwich. | ||
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This is Boston cream pie as a cake. | |
| We're all going to hell for this. | ||
| Cheesecakes a pie. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| I'll find something, maybe, if I want to do the Chili Willie Winter. | ||
| But we'll see. | ||
| I just came up with a name and I got excited about it. | ||
| You gotta warn me if you're gonna do that. | ||
| It came to me in a dream. | ||
| But the reason that I brought this up as a bright spot is I just was hanging around, minding my own business, and what do I see on my boop-boop? | ||
| Got a notification. | ||
| Cool House, the winners of the Dreamy Creamy Summer, followed us on Twitter. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| I didn't write their name anywhere. | ||
| So someone from the company has to have listened to the show or somebody told them that they won the Dreamy Creamy Summer? | ||
| You know, I mean, you didn't know this, but I have been in talks with all of the ice cream manufacturers over the last year or so about the Dreamy Creamy Summer, and they were all very highly anticipating who would win. | ||
| So yeah, obviously they all know about us. | ||
| After a year delay, they follow us. | ||
| But yeah, I thought that was cool. | ||
| I really like their ice cream. | ||
| I think they seem like a pretty cool company. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And so I got a charge out of that. | ||
| Yeah, that's cool. | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot, Dan, is Final Fantasy XVI. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Talked a bit about that before we started recording. | ||
| You're enjoying it. | ||
| I am loving it. | ||
| Here's what I think is fun about it, all right? | ||
| It is in the same way that Final Fantasy Tactics is. | ||
| It's like, it's not a Final Fantasy game. | ||
| But... | ||
| In the same way that Final Fantasy Tactics is, it's one of the best Final Fantasy games. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| It's really, really good. | ||
| It doesn't have all of the Final Fantasy stuff that you're used to. | ||
| There's no turn battles. | ||
| The equipment is almost superfluous. | ||
| All that you're there to do is run around, watch a brilliant TV show, and then punch stuff. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it's great. | ||
| I mean, those are elements of games that people enjoy. | ||
| Running around, punching stuff, watching things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| I mean, it is like the Final Fantasy thing that is there is that the story of a good Final Fantasy game stays with you. | ||
| You know, like you carry around, when Aerith... | ||
| Spoiler alert. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| But it's something, like, there's stuff that you carry with you from the story. | ||
| As much as you like the gameplay and all of that stuff, that's why you spend hours in there. | ||
| Yeah, it does seem to me having, like, minimal involvement or association with the Final Fantasy world. | ||
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Sure. | |
| It does seem like people who like it like it for those, like, character and story-driven reasons. | ||
| Not to say that the gameplay isn't great or something that they enjoy, but it seems like there's far more of a connection there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm glad that you're enjoying it. | ||
| I'm not going to play it. | ||
| I mean, that's totally fine. | ||
| It's not a problem. | ||
| Nothing against you. | ||
| I enjoyed 7 enough. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The remake. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But apparently not enough to jump into 16. That's fine. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| I think what's crazy about it is that this one I would recommend over, like, Final Fantasy XV or XIII or those ones, I would never recommend those to you. | ||
| This one I might, but here's what you're doing. | ||
| You're committing to watching six seasons of a TV show in four days. | ||
| I mean, look, on some level, I have no problem with that. | ||
| We know that I made it all the way through Survivor. | ||
| Well, I mean, the buttons helped, but that wasn't... | ||
| A short period of time I watched it over, but it also wasn't long. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| It was shorter than it should have been. | ||
| You tore through it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, I have no problem with binging something. | ||
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Sure, sure. | |
| But I'm not going to play this game. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| I might. | ||
| It's not a conversation we need to have. | ||
| I feel like you want me to play it. | ||
| I don't want you to play it. | ||
| I mean, it would be fun to talk to you about it. | ||
| That'd be cool. | ||
| I'm sure you can find some wonks out there who are loving the hell out of it. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| I mentioned this to you before we started recording. | ||
| The way you describe it makes me think of Uncharted. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there's a lot of story and it's not a ton of you doing things. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Necessarily. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I just don't like that that much. | ||
| I respect it. | ||
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Totally get it. | |
| It's not like... | ||
| It's not my bag. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, we talked about it, and it's a little bit like if you were watching Game of Thrones, and then the show paused and was like, okay, now this is the Battle of Heron. | ||
| You gotta use your right stick and your left stick and X and square and all that stuff. | ||
| And then when you're done, it's like, cool, now we're going to episode 16 of Game of Thrones, you know? | ||
| At the Battle of Heron. | ||
| Exactly, yeah. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we're back. | ||
| In the present. | ||
| We've got an episode to do. | ||
| So thank you, first of all, for doing that interview with John Ronson. | ||
| That was a lot of fun. | ||
| I think people enjoyed that. | ||
| It seemed like you and Ronson enjoyed it quite a bit. | ||
| It was good to talk. | ||
| It was good to talk. | ||
| You really gave him what for? | ||
| I think the consensus is I overprepared. | ||
| But what's fun about that is that people don't know how my brain works. | ||
| I've forgotten everything that I learned. | ||
| Well, I mean, overpreparing is something that is relative, kind of. | ||
| When you're preparing for something, oftentimes... | ||
| You know, if you get interested in something and you find certain elements of things that you really connect to, it's hard not to over-prepare. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| I don't think that's as much of a judgment. | ||
| It means you were interested in the subject matter. | ||
| I think in our world, I don't think either of us can look at the other and say over-prepare as a... | ||
| Well, today I under-prepared. | ||
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Oh! | |
| Well, ish. | ||
| I have no notes about anything that we're talking about. | ||
| This is a miracle. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's just, this is what it is. | ||
| This is just what it is? | ||
| We're going to be talking about June 19th, 2023. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Which is last week, I believe, was that Monday? | ||
| Yeah, that was Monday. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it's because we got some fun guests. | ||
| Alex seems to be trying to reconnect with some folks. | ||
| He had Gavin McGinnis on a couple days prior, I believe. | ||
| On Friday of the week before. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Some of these people from out of the woodwork are popping around. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| Getting the band back together for one last job because he's running out of money and they need to rob the final bankruptcy court to get away for good. | ||
| I don't know if it's that or if it is like, I don't know, guys, y 'all have any juice? | ||
| Anybody? | ||
| There's a bunch of washed up people looking around at each other like, I don't know, can I steal some of you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe you have some fans or something. | ||
| Maybe people have forgotten that you're a total asshole. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so, you know, maybe trying to see what you can squeeze out of, see if you can squeeze any blood out of the rock. | ||
| They're all standing outside on the far right corner looking at each other asking if you got a fan. | ||
| You got a fan? | ||
| Can you spare a dime? | ||
| Can you spare a dime? | ||
| So, we'll get down to business on this here episode, but first, Jordan, let's say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, I had a dream that Dan and Jordan came to Glasgow, and they were kind of pretentious arseholes, so I think they should come here to prove me specifically wrong. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| One day, perhaps. | ||
| Next, are the globalists in the room with us right now? | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, I can't wait to marry you on June 24th. | ||
| Skip. | ||
| Love, Skip. | ||
| The boys send love, too. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| That sounds to me like Skip is marrying someone named Skip. | ||
| I think that I'm glad they found each other. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What are the odds? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's hard to believe. | ||
| Next, Andy, a bureaucrat in D.C. Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Thank you very much! | |
| Holy shit, what are the odds of a bureaucrat in D.C.? | ||
| Much like Skip marrying Skip. | ||
| Who could have guessed? | ||
| When did they get there? | ||
| Next, Crunchy Peanut Butter, because a grown man needs a challenge. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| And what I have to say about this is, if you consider Chunky Peanut Butter a challenge, what the hell is going on? | ||
| Then you're not a grown man. | ||
| Or how chunky is this peanut butter? | ||
| It's maybe a little too chunky. | ||
| You got pebbles in there? | ||
| If you say this peanut butter is difficult as an adjective, I think you're in trouble. | ||
| Yeah, you're not going to make it. | ||
| You're not going to enjoy it. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| No. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, we had a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. | ||
| So thank you so much to Dan and Jordan singing along with the strings from Endgame. | ||
| Delights me. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Four stars. | |
| I'll honk your mouth and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| I needed playing for me to really get into it, but yeah, it is fun. | ||
| It is. | ||
| So, basically, the beginning of this episode, here on the 2019th, not the 20th, Alex is really mad about Peter Hotez. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Do you know who that is? | ||
| No. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, he's a doctor. | ||
| And he and Joe Rogan... | ||
| Oh, now I know who... | ||
| Now there was the whole saga where he said some stuff and then everybody sicked him on him and Elon Musk is fucking involved. | ||
| Yeah, Elon Musk has said some shit and then some guy showed up at his house and... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I think a society where two people have so much outsized power and influence that they can just say mean things and then a human being is, I mean, a torrential downpour of bullshit on them. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, quite a bit. | ||
| So Alex is mad at this guy. | ||
| And what I find interesting is that Alex is trying to rewrite all of his shit and be like, this is one of my main villains all along. | ||
| He was primarily involved with the Wuhan lab, and we've been tracking this guy forever. | ||
| He's just slotting him into wherever Fauci used to be. | ||
| Fauci's not important anymore. | ||
| He retired or whatever. | ||
| It's such a fascinating thing to watch when Alex finds a new villain, him imagining and pretending that, oh, I've been talking about this guy forever. | ||
| All along. | ||
| It's the same thing you see with Epstein, the same thing you see with Fauci, the same thing you see with Peter Daszak or any of these new characters. | ||
| I've been on this guy since day one. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| You have been claiming that Saddam's sons are still alive for 20 years, as far as I'm concerned. | ||
| Well, we don't know. | ||
| There might have been a certain point where he finally gave up that one. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| But yeah, so he's mad at Peter Hotez. | ||
| A half ago, I said on air, January 2022, that the entire House of Cards concerning the poison shots had come down on top of the globalists. | ||
| And that they would double down and try to intimidate and threaten Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | ||
| And that that would make people like Joe Rogan dig deeper into the science and find out not only did the shots not work, but they knew they didn't work, and they created the virus, and it erases your immune system, and it's a plane to depopulate. | ||
| And I said on air, the globalists are so arrogant that they're going to do this and push it, and that will bring them down. | ||
| It's happening quicker than I thought, though. | ||
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Number one story in the world. | |
| Hundreds of millions of views a day. | ||
| Idiots! | ||
| Ruined man's life! | ||
| I went and checked YouTube, same thing. | ||
| I'm sure it's everywhere else. | ||
| Facebook, Instagram. | ||
| In fact, I know it is. | ||
| Hundreds and hundreds of millions. | ||
| When I say hundreds of millions, Joe Rogan's getting hundreds of millions today himself. | ||
| Just regular response videos are getting like 10 million, 5 million, and there's thousands of people posting them. | ||
| And there's all these folks going out, just the general public, and finding all the clips of Peter Hotez who helped spearhead these poisoned shots against the American people and who spearheads calling for the arrest of anyone that doesn't take shots and the arrest of anyone that questions the scientist. | ||
| And he says, questioning is the opposite of science. | ||
| Debating is the opposite of science. | ||
| These are quotes. | ||
| He just went on MSNBC and said it today. | ||
| But like, are they? | ||
| He said, he's got a new one here. | ||
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In science, you do not debate. | |
| In fact, if you had one word that would describe science, it would have to be research, debate, questioning. | ||
| That's what science is, questioning how the universe operates. | ||
| He's literally attacking one of the three or four pillars of what science is. | ||
| Debate. | ||
| You can debate which one's the central pillar, but it's three or four pillars here. | ||
| Well, if you can debate it, it seems like it's obviously the central pillar. | ||
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Reason? | |
| Research? | ||
| Questioning? | ||
| Doing great. | ||
| Debating? | ||
| What else you got? | ||
| But no, he says, you don't debate in science. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| It's alright. | ||
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Alright. | |
| Alright. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You don't debate. | ||
| In a sense, the idea is that you shouldn't have to talk about it. | ||
| It is or it isn't. | ||
| You can debate it in terms of discussing papers and stuff in these settings and things, but he was saying that I'm not going to debate Robert Kennedy Jr. | ||
| And I'm not going to debate... | ||
| Science isn't debating on Rogan's show. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's not going to settle anything. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So Alex has taken this as like, he's trying to cut down science! | ||
| I feel like we did this all 20 years ago whenever people were having those giant climate debates on every TV station where they'd be like, okay, well we've got one climate expert and then we've got a crazy person. | ||
| And we'll just sit him down and that'll just take care of it, right? | ||
| Didn't we do that all the time? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And it solved things. | ||
| I mean, it's an entertainment model. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Rogan is very well aware of that. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| And he is really easy. | ||
| It's really easy to get the person who's making the sort of wackier claims and the person who's obviously an embarrassment to be in a debate with. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That person's really easy. | ||
| To get a hold of, and Rogan's got a pack full of those people. | ||
| A non-stop Rolodex. | ||
| A whole crew. | ||
| But yeah, trying to intimidate and badger the legitimate person into having that argument is a little more challenging, and that's kind of what you see here. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| I mean, that's crazy. | ||
| We should all... | ||
| This is one of the weirder things for me, is that... | ||
| I feel like this is not a political thing at all. | ||
| We should all just look at what just happened with those two idiots and just being like, this guy sucks! | ||
| And then everyone piling on to them like an insane pack of wolves. | ||
| We should all just stop and be like, this is not cool, right? | ||
| This shouldn't happen. | ||
| It's not cool, but also I don't see it ever ending now. | ||
| No, me neither. | ||
| I don't see people calming down. | ||
| No, but come on. | ||
| This should not happen to people. | ||
| You're preaching to the choir. | ||
| But, yeah, I don't know. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| Yeah, that's fucked up. | ||
| And I think also, you know, when you have people who are like, let's do a celebrity boxing match for charity. | ||
| It's like, okay, we understand that this is a spectacle and nothing's really going to come of it. | ||
| It's profoundly unserious. | ||
| That's how Rogan should treat inviting someone to do a debate on his show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There should be an understanding that this is unserious. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Alex Jones gets drunk on your show and blows your mind with bullshit. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You're not going to come to any larger... | ||
| There's not going to be a Frost Nixon moment where Peter Hotez is like, you know what, vaccines don't work! | ||
| No, you should literally have to look across from a person wearing clown makeup and be like, this is what I'm doing with my life. | ||
| I'm talking to this person, okay? | ||
| So for this next clip, a little bit of a content warning. | ||
| Alex does some... | ||
| Fun? | ||
| Not fun. | ||
| Disgusting. | ||
| A heavy implication that Peter Hotez is a child abuser. | ||
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Sure. | |
| So great. | ||
| That portable baby. | ||
| Look at that disingenuous, predatory smile. | ||
| Now, I'm not saying Brian Stelter's a pedophile. | ||
| Got no proof he is. | ||
| I'm not saying Dr. Peter Hotez is. | ||
| I'm just telling you, if I was going to cast somebody for a movie about pedophiles that drive around in white vans grabbing kids, I would come to him hat in hand and say, Sir, we need you to be the leader of the underground base with the kidnapped children. | ||
| Now, in reality, he's just a guy that runs a big children's hospital and is one of the head infectious disease people under Fauci, pushing four shots, lockdowns, the arrest of those that don't take them, and taking over our bodies. | ||
| He doesn't rape children physically with his penis. | ||
| We don't have any proof of that. | ||
| He wants to rape them with needles full of GMO concoctions. | ||
| With his little, I wonder if he porky pigs it with the little bow tie on there. | ||
| So, you want to have that? | ||
| That guy runs a children's hospital. | ||
| What a nice man. | ||
| This is gross. | ||
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Can you, can he do that? | |
| Because, I mean, not in like a can he or anything kind of way. | ||
| I mean, specifically, all right, it's Trump's fault for all of the vaccine stuff. | ||
| So your vehemence towards this guy should also translate to Trump. | ||
| No, no, no, because Trump got fooled by the globalists into doing what he did, whereas Peter Hotez was the guy who specifically engineered COVID in a lab and then made the vaccines. | ||
| Okay, now if that is his fault, admittedly you have me. | ||
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It is a slight difference. | |
| It's all bullshit, but it is a slight difference. | ||
| I thought you were going to say, is it okay legally for him to make these kinds of implications? | ||
| It's like, unfortunately, probably. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| Nobody's going to stop him either way. | ||
| Intensely unacceptable. | ||
| It's not okay. | ||
| So Alex has a clip of Hotez on TV being interviewed, and Alex, he just gets mad at him. | ||
| There was a debate with RFK Jr. | ||
| I've discussed this issue with him many times by phone and by email, and the problem is, you know, he just keeps on moving the goalposts. | ||
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I mean, first, it was the measles, the measles, the vaccine that caused autism. | |
| That's enough. | ||
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What's that? | |
| I don't want to listen anymore. | ||
| They have been proven to be liars about the whole thing. | ||
| They created the virus. | ||
| They released it for a giant globalist power grab. | ||
| It's called Operation Lockstep. | ||
| You're living in the middle of it. | ||
| They have a UN world treaty they're trying to push through where the UN controls every major nation state's medical policy and you have no rights under it. | ||
| And all your medical privacy and autonomy of your body, bodily autonomy, is stripped. | ||
| They are flagrant. | ||
| Clear and present dangers to civilization and society. | ||
| They're part of a biomedical, eugenics, transhumanist power grab, people. | ||
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Oh, somebody went to his house and talked to him in his yard. | |
| This guy wants to come take your kids, put you in a camp, force inject you, put you in jail for your speech. | ||
| He's on Big Pharma's payroll. | ||
| He's a disgusting blob in his little suit, his little priest suit, his little white outfit. | ||
| You don't own me, scumbag! | ||
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I own my body, you self! | |
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right, man. | ||
| It's just that. | ||
| It's that. | ||
| He's not going to stop himself. | ||
| He can't stop himself. | ||
| Like, even now, he's still going to be like, oh, somebody showed up at your house. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| But here's the slight difference that I would make. | ||
| I don't actually think it's that bad to show up at someone's house who is a matter of, like, you know, you're doing a news story or something like that. | ||
| I know that this does happen periodically with journalists. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Oh, it was a journalist who showed up? | ||
| In theory. | ||
| That's where I'm going to make the difference. | ||
| Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you. | ||
| The act of showing up at somebody's house to ask them hard questions about X, Y, or Z thing... | ||
| I think that that can be done within the arena of journalism. | ||
| It's impolite. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But it can be done. | ||
| Maybe it is impolite. | ||
| And it's also something that is delicate. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And something that I don't trust most people to do responsibly. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And one of the reasons why I think it's kind of more okay for somebody who works under the umbrella of an actual company or, you know, some actual news organization is that if they are acting inappropriately or indelicately, they're probably going to get in trouble or fired. | ||
| Yeah, there are avenues for accountability. | ||
| Yeah, whereas somebody who's a ding-dong with a camera isn't necessarily going to have those same measures of accountability, and it's way easier for it to be something that gets out of control, something that is done. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Well, it is if they're not a public figure. | ||
| To some extent, this guy is. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, like, it's not... | ||
| It's a little bit of a gray area in terms of whether he's an appropriate person for you to show up at their house. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| But you know what I mean. | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, if his first question is why'd you kill all them babies, then I think we know that you're not really a journalist here. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| You've probably got more of an agenda on your mind. | ||
| True. | ||
| True. | ||
| Although the people on the other side would say that the Washington Post has an agenda. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| But, you know, they didn't ask, why'd you kill all them babies? | ||
| It's true. | ||
| So, Alex has some of these old buddies coming around. | ||
| You know, you have the Gavin. | ||
| You have some other people on this episode that we'll get to. | ||
| But he also has some new friends. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| New friends named Alex, even. | ||
| Alex Borstein? | ||
| No. | ||
| What? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| No, Alex Mack. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| No, it's Alex Rosen. | ||
| Have you ever heard of this guy? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| He's the guy who showed up at Peter Hotez's house. | ||
| You son of a... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How dare you drop that reveal on me so well? | ||
| Yeah, so here's Alex rattling off some bullshit at this guy. | ||
| And by the way, let me correct, because I was correct. | ||
| I said last time I looked at it was 10 million. | ||
| Your video now is 18.7 million views, so congratulations. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| And by the way, I saw it all over the place duplicated. | ||
| It's probably like 50 million right now, so here's the problem. | ||
| I'm not going to get into specifics, but they've run ops on me. | ||
| When we expose pedophiles before, they'll then distract off to a place where they're not actually doing it to protect from what was really going on in New York. | ||
| Then they have somebody go in with a gun, or these groups do, and then they turn it around that I sent them. | ||
| You're calling for peace. | ||
| You're calling for justice. | ||
| You're not calling for violence. | ||
| We're not calling for violence. | ||
| You as a journalist and as an activist went and saw him in his yard and talked to him, and he didn't even tell you to leave, but you said bye-bye, and you left. | ||
| And you went to the police department as opposed to calling for your arrest, and you talked to them and said what you did, and they said, no, you've done nothing wrong. | ||
| Obviously, it's a stunt to show how the left are a bunch of lying frauds. | ||
| Now, if you'd have burned down some police stations again, you probably would have gotten bailed out by Kamala Harris, which she did do stuff like that. | ||
| But I am concerned that this is exactly what they'll do. | ||
| In fact, I've been predicting for two years they're going to false flag some of their gods, like Fauci or Hotez or some of the others. | ||
| Now, what you did is great. | ||
| And they're not going to be able to connect it to that. | ||
| But I am concerned that they themselves or their controllers are going to stage something because, Alex, they're getting their asses handed to them. | ||
| I mean, they are getting routed. | ||
| If we were waking up three years ago, I see this metaphysically, metaphorically, culturally, mathematically. | ||
| What? | ||
| Death Star destruction. | ||
| I mean, the fact that everywhere people know the shots are poison, that they're a fraud, that these guys are scammers, and the fact that they've tried to launch a counteroffensive saying that we're frauds, it's blown up in their face, and 95% of the comments are positive for us, shows devastating victory. | ||
| So I'm really concerned about what they're going to pull. | ||
| Take a fucking breath. | ||
| I have no idea what he just said. | ||
| There were so many words, and what was that, a minute and a half long of nonstop words? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think he's on speed. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
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Yeah! | |
| I think maybe he's a little pepped up. | ||
| He's got some circular breathing going on where he's breathing while speaking in. | ||
| I mean, it's insane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Find it difficult to imagine how one would appropriately respond to that. | ||
| I'll take... | ||
| Alex, I'll take your points one at a time. | ||
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Right. | |
| I've taken some notes and... | ||
| I mean, you bring up a lot of really important... | ||
| Can I ask, where did we begin? | ||
| Did we begin with the weird Kamala thing, or did we begin... | ||
| Where did it start or finish? | ||
| See, it's just this beautiful thing where there is no start, there is no beginning. | ||
| It is like the circular breathing that Alex has learned to do while he's on blow. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Time is a flat circle, yes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So... | ||
| He just wants these answers from these people who are pushing the shots. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There are people who have problematic products in the world who would definitely give answers to questions. | ||
| Like Elon Musk, for instance. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He has all these cars that are blowing up and going into traffic and crashing and stuff. | ||
| Yeah, he makes a lot of shit that doesn't work. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he is the kind of guy who would answer questions if he was pressed on them. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think with confronting Hotez in person, it just shows to even more people that, hey, this guy isn't going to answer basic questions. | ||
| I mean, you know, if you confronted Elon Musk about, hey, what do you have to say about kind of self-driving Teslas maybe crashing or something? | ||
| I think he would answer that, and I think he should answer that. | ||
| So how come when it comes to Peter Hotez, oh, he doesn't need to be answering that type of stuff. | ||
| You're a conspiracy theorist. | ||
| I mean, it's ridiculous. | ||
| When you put out a product, endorse something, and it influences millions of people, then, yeah, you should at least answer questions about it. | ||
| But, yeah. | ||
| Keep going, brother. | ||
| Lay more knowledge on us. | ||
| That was a great point about consumer advocacy, consumer rights. | ||
| They're trying to force this shot on us and say that we don't have a right to question it. | ||
| But people are questioning Elon Musk, and he responds. | ||
| It's sad. | ||
| I don't like self-driving cars overall because they're going to take humans out of the equation. | ||
| But Musk is allowed to build them and they have some uses. | ||
| The point is that he does respond to criticism. | ||
| He does talk to reporters. | ||
| Real quick, he doesn't. | ||
| No, he doesn't. | ||
| He claims that things aren't happening. | ||
| I've seen so many things where it's like, when reached to Twitter for comment, they sent a poop emoji. | ||
| Like, what are we doing? | ||
| Shut the fuck up. | ||
| This guy wants policy and wants to silence us on top of it. | ||
| Also another point, Peter Hotez didn't make the Moderna nor Pfizer shots. | ||
| No. | ||
| So I don't know what questions you need him to answer on that front. | ||
| And then doesn't want to be questioned. | ||
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I call total BS. | |
| Yeah, and, you know, it's just, I mean, I called COVID before Revenge of the Nerds, and that's exactly what it is. | ||
| I mean, people like Peter Hotez who, and obviously high school doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but people like Peter Hotez who probably didn't have a lot of friends in high school, not a lot of friends growing up, just not really a likable person. | ||
| I think a lot of COVID is psychological of the fact that they finally get their revenge on people who are fulfilled in life, happy people. | ||
| I think it's just retribution, man. | ||
| I think they're all like little Elliot Rodgers who are just finally saying, oh, I'm going to get revenge on all these people who wronged me and all this type of stuff. | ||
| That's what I really think it is because now all these nerds and these geeks and these losers, they felt fulfilled doing all this stuff because they could say, oh, I'm the cool one now because I got vaccinated. | ||
| I'm going to leave you out of it now. | ||
| I think it's all sad. | ||
| They're carrying out violence by passive-aggressive covert means. | ||
| This is not a serious exchange of ideas. | ||
| This is stupid. | ||
| We all went through the pandemic together. | ||
| Nobody got revenge through it. | ||
| That's where you're wrong. | ||
| I really feel like nobody could get revenge through it. | ||
| The nerds rose up. | ||
| What? | ||
| Would they do that? | ||
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Because they were bullied and no one liked them and they were all sad. | |
| No, and I understand where you're coming from. | ||
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Right. | |
| I get where you're coming from. | ||
| I feel like it's because you're sad. | ||
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I'm a dork. | |
| I'm a dork. | ||
| I'm going to get COVID. | ||
| I'm confused at your reasoning. | ||
| Well, yeah, because it's stupid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| This dude's an alpha. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| You know, he... | ||
| It's a very bizarre opinion and perception of how people work and think. | ||
| And I think that there's another element of this that probably is worth mentioning, and that is that this guy, Alex Rosen, what he does is he entraps pedophiles online. | ||
| So there is a phenomenon of people who have TikTok channels or YouTube channels. | ||
| be underage folks and then lure someone and then gotcha. | ||
| They record the basically Chris Hansen amateur though without the police generally being involved. | ||
| Right. | ||
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That's usually an important part. | |
| I think that not to defend anybody who is cruising for underage people online because I have a whole lot of sympathy for them getting... | ||
| Embarrassed in the video or arrested. | ||
| But I do think, in the same way that coming to someone's house to ask investigative journalistic questions is best left to people who have accountability, who have a certain amount of a job or protocol, things like that in place. | ||
| It is better, I think, generally. | ||
| I find it very... | ||
| Worrying. | ||
| The idea of people who've kind of made cottage industries of themselves hunting down people vigilante-ish online. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, I think that there's a lot of possibilities for that to go wrong. | ||
| There's also a lot of possibilities for you to have your evidence not be accepted and someone not actually get in trouble. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, like, I don't know. | ||
| For this guy to be, you know, this is his bread and butter, you know, what he generally does. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Now he's going and confronting Peter Hotez. | ||
| It's just weird. | ||
| I don't dig it. | ||
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I don't like the whole thing. | |
| Everybody stop doing all of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, all of it together. | ||
| All of it. | ||
| Let's do something different. | ||
| And you also probably should stop doing this, too. | ||
| Well, incredible job. | ||
| I'm going to go to break in five more minutes with us. | ||
| Come back for a full hour soon. | ||
| Incredible Alex Rosen. | ||
| You've got to get his video. | ||
| You've got to share it. | ||
| He is just in the zeitgeist. | ||
| And I think more people should peacefully go. | ||
| and just peacefully ask him questions and educate his neighbors about them and show his neighbors the video. | ||
| What? | ||
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We're going to have it posted on him. | |
| So now we're way past the line that I was making the distinction about earlier. | ||
| Alex is now encouraging his audience to show up at this guy's house, to bother his neighbors. | ||
| I mean, this is just direct harassment that Alex is encouraging. | ||
| And also hanging out on this sort of limb of like, He's gone super viral. | ||
| Almost as if like, hey, you could too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You go and do this. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Yeah, pretty sick shit. | ||
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That's... | |
| That's... | ||
| I just... | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| He doesn't learn. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Fine. | ||
| All of you, you can have him. | ||
| That's what you get. | ||
| You can have Alex? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| You can have him! | ||
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I've tried to tell you! | |
| Yeah, it's pretty wild that this behavior would still be something that he feels comfortable engaging in. | ||
| Well, why not? | ||
| You know, mobilizing audiences towards civilians and people's homes. | ||
| You know, I mean, the thing about it, though, is that that seems like it would be more likely to increase as opposed to less. | ||
| What does he have to lose now? | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| In fact, maybe the only way that he gets out of this shit is if all of his fans start going around and fucking people up. | ||
| So why wouldn't he do it? | ||
| And the consequences for it are none now. | ||
| It doesn't seem like there's much more that can be civilly done. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So, yeah, fuck it. | ||
| Yeah, you might be right. | ||
| So, in addition to this old, or this new guy coming around, Alex has an old friend. | ||
| An old Bilderberg friend. | ||
| Not Jim Tucker, because that guy's dead. | ||
| Did I forget that he was dead? | ||
| Oh, he's very dead. | ||
| The ghost of Jim Tucker is not on the show. | ||
| It is... | ||
| Daniel Estelin! | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Daniel Bilderberg. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
| Yep, so he wants to explain the liberal satanic agenda. | ||
| And if I let him roll, he'll really give us some incredible data. | ||
| And I'll have some questions later in the hour if he wants to go more into the next hour we can. | ||
| So, Daniel, good to have you back. | ||
| Amazing here, my friend. | ||
| And let him have it. | ||
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Alex, actually, I've been thinking that you and I, we attended the 2006, I think it was, Bilderberg Conference in 2006, 2007. | |
| 2006. | ||
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In Ottawa, the outskirts of Ottawa in Canada. | |
| And before that, you had me on when my book came out on the Bilderberg Group back in 2004 and 2005. | ||
| So, yeah, we've known each other for about 20 years. | ||
| We've been at it for a really long time, haven't we? | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Well, I mean... | ||
| I was listening to what the previous guest was talking about, and you were mentioning the left agenda, the leftists. | ||
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With your permission, I'd like to explain where this entire movement came from, because I think a lot of people don't quite understand. | |
| We're not so much talking about the leftists, we're talking about the liberal, global liberal agenda. | ||
| Which is a global satanic agenda. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
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But most people don't understand where it came from. | |
| They think it just came out because George Soros was on the scene. | ||
| Actually, this thing goes way back in time. | ||
| So again, with your permission, if that's okay with you, I want to explain this. | ||
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Because I think people need to understand. | |
| I'd love it if Alex was like, no. | ||
| Yeah, don't. | ||
| You do not have my permission to do this. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| Please don't. | ||
| So yeah, Estelin's... | ||
| I mean, first of all, I gotta say, Esalen is a fucking moron. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we've been over him, we talked about him a bit, we talked about him in the Endgame coverage ad nauseum, because he's in that film, hence the... | ||
| Of course. | ||
| The strings. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The sweet strings of Endgame. | ||
| So, he is an idiot, and I just... | ||
| I marvel at listening to him. | ||
| Here's him starting to talk about this liberal satanic agenda. | ||
| And I was going to try and follow all of the threads of thought, but I was just like, I can't do this. | ||
| It is a ball of yarn that shall not... | ||
| Gordian not. | ||
| It's a Gordian not. | ||
| All right, all right. | ||
| I'll get my sword out and we'll handle this problem. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So, listen, until I said the early 1980s, American society was mostly concerned. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| values and their outlook of life was conservative. | ||
| And so then the situation changed in favor of the liberals with the advent of Reaganomics, Credit stimulation of demand. | ||
| And since this mechanism, which was based on the refinancing of private debt, allowed for the creation of a very stable middle class, more than half of the population of the United States, in fact, not only the United States, but we're talking about America, served as a, let's say, social anchor. | ||
| And the middle class, unlike the poor, is very interested in having a strong state, even if the strong state is controlled by the bankers, which it is today. | ||
| And so it was from this period, again, we're going back to the early 1980s, that liberalism, not in a classical sense of the 19th century liberalism, such as Voltaire, for example, but modern liberals, was a gay parade, juvenile justice, sex change operations, pedophilia, which is about to be legalized the world over, etc., etc. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Okay? | |
| So this is the meaning of juvenile justice reform being implemented not only in the United States and Canada, but I repeat, again, in the entire way. | ||
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What are we talking about? | |
| What is happening? | ||
| Okay, so Reaganomics. | ||
| Yep, that's where liberals took over. | ||
| Which is maybe the most mind-bogglingly wrong thing I think I've ever heard anybody say. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Well, sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Until... | ||
| Until later on in his very own clip. | ||
| Yes, correct. | ||
| Alright, so then it's juvenile justice reform? | ||
| That is somehow about legalizing pedophilia, I think. | ||
| But I don't know how we got from the 80s to... | ||
| Well, the 80s was when Reaganomics had credit-based... | ||
| Demand. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It was refinancing low-interest loans? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the demand in the supply and demand structure was inflated by the ability of people being able to buy things on credit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And this is where... | ||
| Pedophilia got legalized. | ||
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Kaboom. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| It does. | ||
| What? | ||
| So yeah, I don't know what his point is. | ||
| Honestly, I listened to this, I don't really know what his point is. | ||
| He does not like liberals. | ||
| He's pretty into just about every one of the conspiracies that you'll get. | ||
| But he does have a position that I think is a little bit weird for Infowars, and that is that he believes that Trump... | ||
| Xi Jinping and Putin were working together to topple the New World Order. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so he's still like a big supporter of China and Putin. | ||
| In a sense, they were. | ||
| And in a sense, they very much weren't. | ||
| Well, if you conceive of sort of liberal governments, in terms of liberty and such, if you conceive of that as what the New World Order is, then perhaps. | ||
| But it's strange, because it is far more of a full-throated support of Putin, even now. | ||
| Basically being like, you know, if Putin loses in Ukraine, we all lose. | ||
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Great. | |
| Good. | ||
| Good news. | ||
| It's pretty out there. | ||
| I bet he's having a real struggle recently. | ||
| Well, we don't know what has happened since the 24-hour fiasco for Daniel Estelin. | ||
| Also, I do want to touch on this really quick, because while we were sort of down towards the end of last week... | ||
| Owen Troyer pled guilty to his January 6th stuff. | ||
| And I would just like to say that anybody who thinks that that is an indication that he's flipping on Alex or something, that is absurd. | ||
| This is a misdemeanor. | ||
| It is funny on some level, him being like, we're going to fight this. | ||
| We're going to fight until the end of the earth, and then he just agrees to plead guilty. | ||
| Yeah, he's going to get some kind of a very minor punishment. | ||
| out of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And I think that one of the reasons that it's actually advantageous for him to plead guilty is you get some kind of a resolution for it. | |
| And like I saw the headline on InfoWars was InfoWars reporter charged while Hunter Biden goes free or something, you know, like that like ability to, to propagandize off it. | ||
| But yeah, if you think it's like a, he's turned state property on, on Alex, it's ridiculous. | ||
| I saw some of that on Twitter. | ||
| I just was like, no, you guys are. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| You guys are very optimistic. | ||
| No one else is paying Owen. | ||
| Forever. | ||
| Not even the government. | ||
| No, nobody even in the future is going to pay Owen. | ||
| So, back to Daniel Estelin. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's a Bilderberger insider. | ||
| He's a... | ||
| He's a guy who knows shit. | ||
| He's plugged in. | ||
| Oh, so plugged in. | ||
| So plugged in. | ||
| He's been following these Bilderberg people for decades and has made a lot of progress. | ||
| Since Reaganomics, at least. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| He has gotten so much done. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Changed the world. | ||
| Really? | ||
| No. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But he has apparently, and I don't even believe this part. | ||
| He has apparently talked to rogue Bilderberg members. | ||
| There's apparently Bilderberg members within the structure who have gone rogue. | ||
| I'm in on rogue Bilderberg members. | ||
| That is a new development that I appreciate. | ||
| Yeah, and as soon as he brings this up, Alex is like, I've talked to them too. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Good times. | ||
| Of good times. | ||
| This gives me chills because I've got four children. | ||
| One of them is six years old. | ||
| And I look at an elite that are so delusional they can't see what's happening. | ||
| But the good news is... | ||
| Daniel's a really smart intellectual. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| He was able to meet with these people because they were listening to some of the dissenters in Bilderberg that actually thought, no, these people are nuts. | ||
| They don't see what's happening. | ||
| So he was talking to people that were at the highest level of wargaming 20 years ago, 18 years ago, 15 years ago, 10 years ago, about their own concern about how they get out of what they've done. | ||
| So when we're up here... | ||
| We're not talking about some right-wing football issue or some left-wing political distraction issue that are sub-issues. | ||
| We're talking, like you said, 30,000, 10,000-foot view that only big picture and being honest will do anything. | ||
| Instead of debating their kind of scorched earth, stay-behind network thing where they're all digging into bunkers, I don't want the elite to have to be in bunkers. | ||
| I want to have some kind of peace deal and fix the world. | ||
| And that is what Putin has tried to do. | ||
| And I'm not a... | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| A Russophile. | ||
| But I'm also not a Russophobe. | ||
| And so... | ||
| China made deals with the globalists. | ||
| It's kind of broken with them, and now they're maybe back. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| What? | ||
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But Russia, again, just like Hitler, just like Napoleon, is its own deal standing against this. | |
| It's a magic moment, so I'm going to shut up again. | ||
| Just like Hitler. | ||
| Just like Napoleon. | ||
| Two of the great people in history. | ||
| Making a stand. | ||
| Yeah, just fighting against the tide of all those people trying to survive around them. | ||
| Oh boy! | ||
| So that's a bad mentality. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then I would also like to suggest that it's a bad mentality within Alex's worldview. | ||
| He doesn't think that that's what Hitler was doing. | ||
| Hitler was set up. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| What are we doing here? | ||
| Hitler was part of the same thing. | ||
| It's like the two sides of the same coin thing. | ||
| You shouldn't believe this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| That's even nazier than Alex usually is. | ||
| It's... | ||
| Unfortunate to feel like I'm constantly wandering around quicksand. | ||
| That's because you are. | ||
| No, you don't believe that according to the things that you don't believe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, let's unpack. | ||
| China made some deals. | ||
| Maybe they're not. | ||
| Maybe they're back. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| China's China. | ||
| You know, they're gonna do! | ||
| What are they gonna do? | ||
| They're just gonna do China. | ||
| I think I'd feel embarrassed if I said that. | ||
| I mean, that's... | ||
| Also, I think I'd feel embarrassed if I took the piss out of my own bread and butter like he did with the football issues. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| He's like, oh, we're not talking about some right-wing distraction thing that I spend all of my show on. | ||
| All day, every day! | ||
| All day, every day! | ||
| Yeah, all day, every day. | ||
| Yeah, this isn't like my normal show where it's just being mad about nothing for no reason. | ||
| Yeah, and you know, I'm thinking of the context of Bilderberg members going rogue and talking to Daniel Estela and being like, how are we going to get out of this situation? | ||
| Yeah, what have we wrought? | ||
| Like, in the greater cosmology... | ||
| These people are either lesser demons or people who are directly associated with actual demons. | ||
| Yeah, so you gotta kind of suspect that what they're doing is fucking with Daniel Estelon. | ||
| It has to be! | ||
| It's a trap. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I mean, in their worldview, there are literal demons and these people know them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| To the point where... | ||
| You don't turn off demonic possession like with Light Switch. | ||
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| And you can't just like, hey, listen, I'm lying to this interdimensional infinite being over here. | ||
| I need your help. | ||
| Yeah, how do I get out of this? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Daniel Estelin. | ||
| You don't. | ||
| He's a demon. | ||
| Hey, I know you wrote some really stupid books. | ||
| Help me defeat the devil. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Cool, man. | ||
| Hey, could you help me with my eternal soul? | ||
| Because there's this demon behind me. | ||
| I would choose a better person to talk to. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| But Jim Tucker's dead, so I guess... | ||
| The bottom of the barrel. | ||
| So Alex asks, you know, this is this, where do you go? | ||
| You know? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There's some shit that's gonna go down. | ||
| It's just gonna happen. | ||
| It's inevitable. | ||
| So what do you do? | ||
| Where do you go? | ||
| Where do you go? | ||
| You go underground, right? | ||
| What's safe? | ||
| No, you don't want to go underground. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Well, the idea is, again, the idea is you stay where you are, but you start building a community within, because in the end, you're going to protect and defend your nation. | ||
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| God's life, country, whatever that is, whatever that may be, it doesn't make a difference. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| You'll always be safer in your own land than anywhere else in the world. | ||
| I think that's very astute. | ||
| Because if you don't know the terrain and the people, people should be getting folks they trust, getting ready now, and getting psychologically ready for what's going down. | ||
| And then we can do anything together if we're even psychologically, spiritually ready is what you're saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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So if the robots aren't getting there on time to save the globalists and they're crazy enough to hope nuclear war would have saved them, that's... | |
| Well, there's a lot of stuff going on, Alex. | ||
| Again, there's a lot of unknowns, okay? | ||
| And one of the things, one of the good things is that, again, no one has the roadmap to explain where we're going. | ||
| Which means that the globalists, because they don't have a map for the first time in history. | ||
| They have no way to get from point A to point B. They don't have the language to explain. | ||
| And by the way, it's funny you say that, because I read the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Times in London, then I read the CFR, and I said to some of these globalists I met with the last few years, I said, so I'm here because you don't know what to do. | ||
| And they said, no, things are coming to an end. | ||
| We're trying to figure out what you think. | ||
| And so I can tell you what you're saying is accurate. | ||
| What you just said is the whole, they know they've come to a brick wall. | ||
| They know they've come to a dead end. | ||
| And so this is an amazing moment right now. | ||
| These globalists, the conspiracy goes back to the devil. | ||
| Like, it goes back through all the human history that we have, back to biblical times and stuff. | ||
| But for the first time ever, they don't know what to do. | ||
| Isn't that convenient? | ||
| I think you're just revealing that you've got no ideas. | ||
| We've been doing the COVID thing, now we've run out of ideas. | ||
| Some of these other stuff, like monkeypox, we tried to do that as the next COVID that didn't work. | ||
| We're really gonna hit our own brick wall when, you know, 90% of the population isn't dead from these shots here in a little bit. | ||
| We've hung our hat a lot on a lot of people are going to die from the shots. | ||
| But they're not going to. | ||
| No. | ||
| And they all should be dead by now. | ||
| Way dead. | ||
| That doesn't seem to be happening. | ||
| And we should have nuclear war by now. | ||
| Oh, and that's not happening either. | ||
| It's not race specific. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, the globalists don't know what to do. | ||
| For the first time ever, the globalists don't know what to do. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So one of the things I think is really fun about the Daniel Estelan interview is that they haven't talked in five years. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And, well, that's what they say. | ||
| I don't know if that's true or not. | ||
| But Alex was like, yeah, I got a new phone number, and, you know, maybe you didn't know. | ||
| I got a new phone! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No! | ||
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We didn't have each other's number, and, you know, just like, hey, you're the best, man. | |
| Oh, my God. | ||
| You are a primary high-level source that we haven't really worked... | ||
| Like, a lot of the people that Alex has had on in the, like, past years... | ||
| They've been worn out. | ||
| No one cares anymore. | ||
| Their name is not going to get anyone excited. | ||
| And so now this is somebody who's like, oh, maybe his authoritative voice can be exciting for a little while. | ||
| But yeah, it'll be diminishing returns. | ||
| Way diminishing. | ||
| So we have another guy who's coming back after a years-long absence. | ||
| And when I heard this... | ||
| I was just like, I don't even know why. | ||
| I don't know what's going on anymore. | ||
| Alright, for the next hour and 22 minutes, Owen Benjamin, a popular comedian and researcher and talk show host, joins us. | ||
| He's been on before years ago, and I wanted to get him on just because he's a controversial guy and definitely challenges the system, and that's important. | ||
| Whether you agree with somebody or not, it's important to promote free speech. | ||
| In this great age of tyranny. | ||
| So we're going to cover the waterfront here. | ||
| We haven't talked before he came on. | ||
| I called him a few days ago, asked him to come on. | ||
| He said, sure, OwenBenjamin.com. | ||
| You can find everything there. | ||
| Most folks know who he is. | ||
| Yeah, why do they know who he is? | ||
| This is embarrassing for both of them. | ||
| Yeah, this is not good. | ||
| This is really weird. | ||
| This is not good. | ||
| So Owen Benjamin was a fourth hour host on Alex's show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| After he sort of got... | ||
| You know, marginalized from the intellectual dark web folk. | ||
| And so he was doing the fourth hour. | ||
| And then he started to get really into Hitler. | ||
| And really, really anti-Semitic. | ||
| He was really into Hitler. | ||
| Very much so. | ||
| To the point where I think it would be fair to describe him as a Nazi. | ||
| An actual out-and-out Nazi. | ||
| Yeah, very much so. | ||
| A lot of his ideas are... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so he was too much for Alex, too much of a Nazi for Alex, and so he didn't do the fourth hour anymore, and instead was in his compound in Idaho, where he would drunkenly sit around a fire and livestream anti-Semitic shit to a smallish audience of people who would call him Big Bear. | ||
| Okay, so if I understand correctly, Owen Benjamin, comedian. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Former comedian. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Has a compound in Idaho. | ||
| Still does. | ||
| Still does. | ||
| Where he gets drunk and sits in front of a fire and then streams. | ||
| Well, he would do that. | ||
| I don't know if he's doing that anymore. | ||
| I haven't kept close tabs on his career. | ||
| I mean, you don't watch every Nazi. | ||
| Nah, I can't. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I found his shows that I did watch to be a bit sloppy. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And a little bit boring. | ||
| Sounds right. | ||
| But yeah, so he did that. | ||
| And then one of the things that I will say, not to his credit, not a positive about Owen Benjamin, but something that I find entertaining, is that he's a guy who doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| Like, when the intellectual dark web decided to disown him, he put out a video. | ||
| Talking about how much they're a bunch of shitheads and how, like, they all worship Sam Harris and his parents made Golden Girls and he's just living off a silver spoon, this fucking rich asshole. | ||
| So, like, he burns people. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And after he and Alex had a falling out, he was like, this guy's a fucking alcoholic liar. | ||
| Everything is, he's just so full of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so... | ||
| So now he's back. | ||
| And I think I can succinctly, through what I've just said, sort of support my claim that this is embarrassing for both of them. | ||
| They should not be talking. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| And if they are talking, they should probably be dealing with the fact that they both hate each other, or presumably hate each other, and have pretty fundamental problems with each other's worldviews and careers. | ||
| If there was a VH1 show... | ||
| Then, like, 30 years afterwards, I could see getting Owen, Benjamin, and Alex to, like, sit down and just be like, you know, we said a lot of stuff to each other in the past. | ||
| You know that? | ||
| Shit, man. | ||
| They shouldn't even do this. | ||
| On this episode, I think it would be incredibly valuable if Alex and Owen would have a conversation about what exactly it was that made them in, like, we could not be... | ||
| Working with each other at that time. | ||
| Alex, what about me was too Nazi for your show? | ||
| Draw a clear line. | ||
| Well, you said you liked Hitler. | ||
| Yeah, apparently that's not a problem. | ||
| You had yay on. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's true. | ||
| And yay, if you'll remember, referenced Owen Benjamin's jokes. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| I would play the clips where Owen Benjamin's shitting on Alex, but I played them during that yay episode. | ||
| It's been recently. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, but the problem there is the honest conversation is, listen, I agree with you on everything that you believe, but by using slight euphemisms, I can say it, and if you tell the truth like I say I do, then we're gonna get in trouble. | ||
| So, you gotta go. | ||
| And maybe, you know... | ||
| Elon Musk has taken over Twitter, and bigots are allowed back on, so Owen's back on Twitter. | ||
| Bigots are everywhere. | ||
| Owen has that, so maybe he's trying to grow his brand again, and so he's willing to not say some of these things on Alex's show in order to get back that platform, get some of that money coming back in. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Yeah, he sucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what's weird, though? | ||
| Hour and 22 minutes, exactly? | ||
| Yeah, it's mostly about farming. | ||
| I'm not joking. | ||
| Well, that makes sense. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| That makes as much sense as anything else you've said today. | ||
| You know what it's not about? | ||
| His Nazi beliefs. | ||
| Strange. | ||
| It's not about how he very publicly called Alex a liar and told tales out of school about his time working for Alex. | ||
| I think that that stuff is in the air, and they're pretending that it's not. | ||
| Anybody who's watching this who has an awareness of the two of them, anybody who's watched Alex's show for a couple years, would be like, you guys are cowards. | ||
| If Alex and Owen had the relationship that they had, and Alex calls and is like, hey, do you want to be on the show? | ||
| If Owen says yes, There's really only two reasons. | ||
| One is to confront him. | ||
| And two is because he's desperate. | ||
| And he doesn't confront him. | ||
| Because every other thing about their entire path together would lead me to be like, no. | ||
| I don't want to come on your show. | ||
| I think you're an alcoholic liar. | ||
| That's why I said it. | ||
| But it turns out, even though I said it then, it didn't bother me for the years before. | ||
| Seemed pretty fine with it then. | ||
| Well, guess what? | ||
| Now I can get over it. | ||
| Now it's fine again. | ||
| Now it's fine again. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I took a five-year break from you being an alcoholic liar, and now you're not an alcoholic liar. | ||
| It's that fast. | ||
| Yeah, the people who like watching me drunk around a campfire maybe aren't enough to keep up on property taxes for my compound. | ||
| I shouldn't have gotten a compound. | ||
| Gotta downsize. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Should have gotten a tiny house. | ||
| So anyway, here's where their interview begins. | ||
| It is an insane world we live in. | ||
| So, Owen, thanks for joining us. | ||
| I'm going to let you launch the first topic here. | ||
| Oh, thanks for having me, man. | ||
| I just wanted to say I appreciate you having me, and I'm glad to have this convo. | ||
| And happy Juneteenth. | ||
| Today is a new holiday, apparently. | ||
| Juneteenth. | ||
| It's a big one. | ||
| Not a new holiday. | ||
| In fact, this is the day that the Republicans freed the slaves from the Democrats, which actually happened. | ||
| Oh, nice. | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| The Democrats turn it around that it's the Republicans, so yeah. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| You've got a comedian. | ||
| They're clearly opening with a nice joke. | ||
| Great one. | ||
| Alex really ground that to a halt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's not a good scene partner. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| But hey, why don't we try again? | ||
| Are we going to try again with the same joke? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No. | ||
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No. | |
| Different joke. | ||
| Different joke. | ||
| So they're talking a little bit about RFK Jr. | ||
| Because Alex is still kind of into him, but also kind of like, he doesn't like guns enough. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| And so he wants Owen Benjamin's take on it. | ||
| Owen's kind of... | ||
| He lives in a fucking... | ||
| The woods in Idaho. | ||
| No government can affect me here. | ||
| I don't think he cares that much. | ||
| Big picture. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And isn't super into RFK Jr., but they play a clip of RFK Jr. from deep in the past when RFK had written a book about the judge that fought George Wallace to desegregate. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And so they riff on this clip here a little bit. | ||
| This is Robert F. Kennedy with his voice before he got paralyzed. | ||
| Here he is. | ||
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There's a lot of people in Alabama, and George Wallace certainly is. | |
| He's had a great effect on, I think, the entire South and on the civil rights movement in this country in general. | ||
| Truly a remarkable man. | ||
| This is the man that Griffin Bell wanted to have named, or Jimmy Carter did, as head of the FBI. | ||
| But because of ill health, he could not. | ||
| But he was the federal judge in Alabama, as you say, that had such an impact on not just Alabama, but the South. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| During the 60s, he integrated. | ||
| Every major institution in Alabama. | ||
| Because of the political structure down there, and really a politics that really involved George Wallace politics, it really involved a stance of defiance. | ||
| He was really forced to go in and actually take over institutions that in other places in the South were... | ||
| There was a certain amount of... | ||
| So here he is at 24. I've watched the whole interview. | ||
| He seems pretty smart at 24, but extremely leftist. | ||
| Do you mean against segregation? | ||
| Extremely leftist. | ||
| I mean, he's just radiating a liberal version of William F. Buckley that makes you want to curl into a ball. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Well, he's radiating a vibe like he's just ready to just bang to me. | ||
| Like, I know guys like that that are just like... | ||
| He's just being like... | ||
| You know, handsome and tough and smooth. | ||
| You're going with a Kennedy cliche that they're so promiscuous? | ||
| Yeah, which is okay. | ||
| Like, again, I'm not coming from, like, a high horse. | ||
| I'm just a comic, man. | ||
| A lot of people will overthink me like I have an agenda, like I'm trying to take something down. | ||
| I'm just saying what I see. | ||
| I just see a guy that looks like he's pretty into banging, you know? | ||
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Oh my God. | |
| Ha ha ha. | ||
| Now that's a Final Fantasy X laugh right there. | ||
| Ha! | ||
| Ha! | ||
| That was such a fake laugh it scared you. | ||
| Yeah, that was intense. | ||
| Well, I mean, Owen had to explain to Alex that he's a comic and he was making a joke and then it freed Alex up to laugh. | ||
| But you saw before that... | ||
| Alex was like, oh, you're going with the cliche of the promiscuous Kennedy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, way to help the joke there. | ||
| I was pretty sure he was negating the joke entirely by calling it a cliche. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| That is how you want the person across the table from you to act. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Shit joke, dude. | ||
| Okay, cool. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Hey, are you a hack? | ||
| I'll hop to the next one. | ||
| Okay, all right. | ||
| 4-22, you say? | ||
| So I watched that interview, and he does look like he wants to bang. | ||
| It is a fair observation on Owen's part. | ||
| Look, I hate Owen Benjamin, but... | ||
| What are you going to say? | ||
| You're right, you're right. | ||
| It's a cliche for a reason the Kennedys are wanting to bang all the time. | ||
| RFK Jr. in that interview did look smooth as hell. | ||
| It is so... | ||
| It's so obvious and so telling that somebody just saying they're against segregation is extremely leftist. | ||
| It should tell you everything you need to know about the idea of like, oh no, they're good with the 18th fucking amendment or whatever, and they're not. | ||
| And let's be clear, there is no other context of the clip that they played. | ||
| That's really all you could take away from it. | ||
| And if you watch the interview, it is about this book that Kennedy had written about the guy who fought... | ||
| segregation. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And so if Alex did watch that entire interview, that's what it's about. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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So that's what he is calling like hyper leftist. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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And it makes sense because I mean like we've been over this a bit in the past, but like so many of Alex's ideological forefathers and the people who wrote the things that he is like, you know, heavily bases his worldview on were people who are associated with the And his governorship. | |
| So, like, it makes sense. | ||
| No, and the Civil Rights Movement was their real, burning, passionate hatred far beyond communism or whatever. | ||
| Well, the Civil Rights Movement was just communism. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Wink, wink. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So, um, look. | ||
| Alex had that big laugh. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| I mean, honestly, that hurt. | ||
| So that's when he knew it's comedy time. | ||
| And so, like, Owen Benjamin is saying that RFK looks like he wants to fuck. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And so here's where Alex goes with the riff. | ||
| Robert fucking Jr. | ||
| No, it's not that good. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Or not that bad. | ||
| Ooh. | ||
| Which is fine! | ||
| You know, I've let through phases. | ||
| I've let through, like, if you look at me... | ||
| Hey, luckily, I've never been into that, Benjamin. | ||
| Never. | ||
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So... | |
| Good for you. | ||
| Thank God, I'm actually a virgin, so I get it. | ||
| Dude, you're keeping it all inside you. | ||
| You don't want to waste the male, the masculine force. | ||
| You don't want to spread the seed too thin. | ||
| It's like General Ripper says, the precious bodily fluids. | ||
| I think there is something to do that. | ||
| I think that's one reason why they flood everybody with porn. | ||
| I know this sounds a little crazy. | ||
| I'm getting a little distracted. | ||
| Boxers don't want to do it a month before they might. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It spikes your testosterone. | ||
| I'm not a Kennedy, but I'm no stranger to women. | ||
| I'm happily married. | ||
| You've done some banging, yeah. | ||
| No, well, maybe in my mind. | ||
| But the point is... | ||
| Everybody gets it. | ||
| Everybody's been through phases. | ||
| Everybody's been through phases. | ||
| The point is... | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| What the fuck was that? | ||
| So he decided first that his joke would be that he's never banged or something? | ||
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Right. | |
| You know, like the Kennedy... | ||
| He's like, yeah, he looks like he wants to fuck. | ||
| That's never been a phase of mine. | ||
| He's trying the facetiousness. | ||
| Great joke. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Crushed it. | ||
| And then, so it goes a little while, and then he's like, I gotta make a correction. | ||
| I have fucked. | ||
| I can't let people believe for a second that I haven't fucked. | ||
| But then he doubles back on it again. | ||
| Well, that's because it's funny to think that I haven't fucked. | ||
| But there was one moment that I thought was actually pretty smooth there. | ||
| And that is when Owen starts talking about his theories about pornography. | ||
| Alex kind of cuts him off. | ||
| And I think that is intentional because Alex knows that Owen Benjamin believes the Jews are giving everyone pornography to sublimate their aggression and bear-like tendencies. | ||
| Worth it. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Yep. | ||
| That's what they're doing. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, like I said, this is mostly about farming. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because Owen Benjamin's got that land out in Idaho where he grows crops and Alex fancies himself a country boy. | ||
| I mean, I'd rather hear them talk about farming than Nazis. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| You get high living in the country. | ||
| And so much of that's gone, though, because now it's like satellite TVs. | ||
| The country's not what it was, but growing up in East Texas, it was amazing. | ||
| Bro, that's amazing. | ||
| Like, that's exactly it. | ||
| Like, what you just described is like my heaven. | ||
| You know, you don't get sad. | ||
| Like, depression and anxiety isn't really a natural human condition. | ||
| So if you're shoveling manure and you're growing stuff and your kids are running around, like you're so active that you don't get sad. | ||
| Because I felt... | ||
| But you're in your... | ||
| I'm interrupting you. | ||
| I'm going to give you the 40-7, but you're right. | ||
| You're in an epigenetic thing that a thousand generations did. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You're supposed to do it. | ||
| You're supposed to have kids running around fighting while you're taking care of chickens and shoveling crap and, you know, shooting a wolf or hit it with a bow and arrow. | ||
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Yeah, like they did 30,000 years ago. | |
| Yeah, and you see so much truth in it. | ||
| I don't know if one of your producers can find one of my videos I did. | ||
| Where I showed people exactly how they're controlled through goats, where you bring the goat in, you give it pornography, satellite TV, corn syrup, fluoride, whatever it is, and they put their face in and they're eating it, and then you put them in crippling debt, you know, you put the thing around their neck, and then you milk them, which is their future income, and then you, you know, you castrate them, you call them brave and beautiful if you don't want them procreating. | ||
| And I'm watching this, and I'm like, oh, it's just all farming. | ||
| And so it's really hard to trick or deceive the farming type, the rural type, and I think that's why they're so hated amongst the establishment. | ||
| Totally! | ||
| Did you know that, well, not just for Franklin, mainly Thomas Jefferson obsessed with farmers as the answer to tyranny? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely, because it's impossible. | ||
| The farmer doesn't get as deceived as easily. | ||
| Hold on, we'll come back in a second. | ||
| Can't trick a farmer. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| If I'm a person, if I'm a con man, the one thing I want to hear is like, oh, my group of people is untrickable. | ||
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Right. | |
| Oh, yes, please. | ||
| Oh, you guys are impossible to trick. | ||
| There's no way I could possibly trick you. | ||
| Hello. | ||
| I'll just call you Mark. | ||
| How much money do you have? | ||
| So, that goat thing makes no sense. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| It's cute. | ||
| It's just farming, Dan. | ||
| That's how we enslave people. | ||
| It's just farming. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| I didn't hear any real reason to believe that I am the goat in what he was describing. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But, fine. | ||
| I guess you can trick some people with that. | ||
| As long as they're not farmers, because farmers can't be tricked. | ||
| But here's really what I want to say. | ||
| There is a very serious issue with mental health in agricultural communities, rural areas. | ||
| According to an article from earlier this year in the New York Times, quote, the rate of suicide among farmers is three and a half times higher than among the general population, according to the National Rural Health Association. | ||
| Suicide rates in rural communities increased by 48 percent between 2000 to 2018, compared with 34 percent in urban. | ||
| There is a lot of depression and mental health issues that get ignored. | ||
| And part of the reason that people... | ||
| People say that we don't have that in our communities because nobody is allowed to talk about it. | ||
| Yeah, there's a greater stigmatization or whatever. | ||
| He's pretending that, oh, you stay busy. | ||
| That is not true, and that is a toxic mentality that leads to greater severity and not dealing with the underlying issue that is there. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think he's been fooled. | ||
| Yeah, we should probably... | ||
| Here's what I think he should do. | ||
| He should watch more movies, and I guess there probably aren't enough. | ||
| More movies where there's like this kid on a farm who has big dreams, feels depressed all the time, their family is unwilling to accept them because they're different and they're talking about mental illness issues, and then they have to leave, right? | ||
| Imagine if he had seen that as a regular story that happened constantly. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Might help. | ||
| So, farming has been very helpful for Owen Benjamin. | ||
| Another thing that farming teaches you is that death isn't even scary. | ||
| Like, one of the biggest driving forces of modern insanity is this super fear of death. | ||
| And when you see a lot of death, you know that it's not the end, you know? | ||
| I don't know specifically what happens when you die, but I'm pretty comfortable with death at this point. | ||
| And it's not really that scary. | ||
| Like, animals die. | ||
| You eat them. | ||
| People die. | ||
| You know, they go on. | ||
| Their soul goes on. | ||
| And this place is a blessing. | ||
| And so when you live that way, when you live a more rural lifestyle, these Bloomberg types almost appear like the level of insanity is so nuts. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| So nuts. | ||
| You know, I had the exact same response that you did. | ||
| The animals die, you eat them, people die. | ||
| You eat them. | ||
| If you're gonna do it in that cadence, you have to do it. | ||
| And you're a comedian! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Ostensibly. | ||
| I get that you have a familiarity with things dying. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And that maybe is interesting to you. | ||
| That, like, it doesn't shock you when you kill an animal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Doesn't really have to do with your death. | ||
| I guess you have learned that object permanence is there. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that when other people die, life goes on. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's great. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| Well, but I mean, that's my problem, you know. | ||
| When I die, life goes on for other people. | ||
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But not you. | |
| I'm worried about them. | ||
| But not you. | ||
| I know, that's why it'd be great. | ||
| But yeah, you gotta go live on a farm. | ||
| And then you'll get over that. | ||
| I don't like the out of doors. | ||
| Right, you sound like a Bloomberg type. | ||
| I am a bit of a Bloomberg type. | ||
| My flowers are on the inside. | ||
| So, while you listen to this next clip, I'd like you to remember that Alex believes that certain books shouldn't be allowed in schools because they're going to scandalize children and what have you. | ||
| Here's Alex telling a little bit of a story from his past. | ||
| Starting when I was 11, they put me, for like two months out of the summer, working for a major ranch next door to our ranch that we'd sold to decades before. | ||
| Big, nice ranch with black angus, you name it. | ||
| So I only worked there like two months, but at first it was really hot, it was crazy, 100-something degrees. | ||
| But I got, after I beat them, they're a month, because they had thousands of cattle. | ||
| And they were out open range, we also fed them. | ||
| Three or four days a week, 18 wheelers would pull up. | ||
| And it would be my job with a few other people, most of them a little 14, 15, 16, to get up there and to get all the feed off and then to go load it. | ||
| And I got to where, after a month of doing it, a couple of days a week, like I loved it when the trucks pulled in. | ||
| Gives me about two of them to climb in there and get it all out and do it. | ||
| I love when they say, go to this hay barn and grab all this hay and move it here. | ||
| This is a great story. | ||
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This is a great story. | |
| Incredible work. | ||
| Learned so much. | ||
| Industrial level vet. | ||
| We're talking about taking cows to slaughterhouses. | ||
| Getting ready for that. | ||
| That was part of the job. | ||
| Artificial insemination. | ||
| It was just amazing. | ||
| And I'm telling you, I got to where 5 a.m., alarm clock goes off. | ||
| Grandma's cooking you breakfast. | ||
| Truck pulls by, picks you up. | ||
| 6:30 a.m. | ||
| You're in a truck with a bunch of cowboys going out to dehorn 5,000 cattle. | ||
| And at the end of the day, you're not just paid that money. | ||
| They go, here's 500 bucks. | ||
| You did a good job on top of your money. | ||
| Now we're going to get whiskey. | ||
| And I'd be driving back and they'd be pulling off the whorehouses and I'd just go, don't take me home. | ||
| But I'm telling you, man, that's what Texas is all about. | ||
| And that culture just is not around anymore. | ||
| Owen Benjamin, you got any stories? | ||
| Top that. | ||
| I... | ||
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Top that. | |
| I... | ||
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I... | |
| This is not a man who's on coke. | ||
| Absolute. | ||
| Absolute incoherence. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, just crazy. | ||
| Ah! | ||
| I was put to work doing manual labor at 11, and then when I was 15, I was working with cowboys who took me to a whorehouse. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right, man. | ||
| But, like, all right. | ||
| You know, you imagine Alex being able to understand, like, when he was 15, he wasn't an infant. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, and the resilience that you have when you're those ages. | ||
| You can handle maybe a book that's a little scandalous being in the library. | ||
| Usually. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Usually. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think Alex should reflect on that a little bit. | ||
| When I did my childhood thing, I detasseled the Illinois summer job. | ||
| You walk the fields of corn and you detassel, right? | ||
| And yeah, I lasted about a week and a half before they fired me. | ||
| Because I wasn't looking at the ground, generally speaking. | ||
| I was walking the rows and just kind of looking around thinking, just looking around. | ||
| You're having big dreams. | ||
| They had people following me and they were like, this is absurd. | ||
| This guy doesn't do anything on these. | ||
| And I was like, well, good call. | ||
| You are correct. | ||
| I am a person you should fire. | ||
| I had a paper route. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I worked at Dairy Queen when I was 15. Yeah. | ||
| That sucked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I worked at a lumber yard when I was 15. Love that smell. | ||
| Oh, it was a good smell. | ||
| Quit after a couple weeks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not for me. | ||
| So Alex brought up inseminating animals. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So Owen's got a little bit of a riff. | ||
| We're going to go back to the JFK or RFK Jr. riff. | ||
| It's slight variance. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Owen Benjamin, you got any stories? | ||
| Top that. | ||
| No, those are pretty intense stories. | ||
| I know guys that are in that world, and it does look pretty amazing. | ||
| My world is a little more smaller scale. | ||
| Like, I have four cows, but I have seen them get artificially inseminated. | ||
| And it's so funny. | ||
| Like, my sperm guy, I call him my sperm guy, who comes by with, like, a truck filled with cow sperm. | ||
| And he's always super giggly, and it seems like he's not even, like, that into cows. | ||
| And I'm like... | ||
| Why do you do this job? | ||
| Like, you don't even seem that into cows. | ||
| And he just, like, giggles. | ||
| And I'm like, you're into the sperm. | ||
| What's incredible about these rednecks is these are not the all-hat-no-cowl rednecks. | ||
| These people would work from 7 a.m. until nighttime like crazed maniacs. | ||
| It was, like, completely a macho. | ||
| You know what I'm talking about? | ||
| Like, that's what built America. | ||
| And most of these cowboys had, like, a gravel truck and, you know, a cement truck. | ||
| I mean, they're just maniacs. | ||
| Yeah, they're the toughest guys I've ever known. | ||
| Yeah, that's not a conversation. | ||
| I stepped on Owen's great sperm guy joke. | ||
| I mean, I think, one, there were at least four beats in a sperm guy story that he missed way terribly. | ||
| It does feel like that's from the act, maybe. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, no, there's gotta be, there's beats there. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you want to keep it clean for Alex's show. | ||
| I suppose. | ||
| Maybe it gets a little bit raunchy when he does stand up on the compound. | ||
| I mean, he already, he was like, oh, when the guy comes with my sperm, he didn't even, he just moved on. | ||
| Just moved on. | ||
| You don't want to spoon feed people. | ||
| You gotta let them get there themselves. | ||
| I mean, with Alex, you gotta spoon feed them. | ||
| Well, or you just say the joke and then he's like, these people are not all had no cattle. | ||
| Completely off topic. | ||
| That's like, Starting in the middle of a conversation they weren't having. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| So Alex was continuing his story in his mind while Owen was talking. | ||
| Because he's on blow. | ||
| And then when Owen stopped, he was like, okay, I can continue my story now. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Sperm guy, sperm guy. | ||
| I skipped over the part where you were talking. | ||
| That was in my brain. | ||
| Yeah, it didn't matter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So apparently women. | ||
| What about them? | ||
| Can't survive the collapse that's coming. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| What? | ||
| No, it's not going to be good. | ||
| I'm going to be honest. | ||
| But I was thinking about this during the break because a friend of mine just sent me a photo of a man opening his car door but leaning through the window to put his credit card in the computer. | ||
| Hey, we've all been here. | ||
| And people look at these videos and think they're fake. | ||
| They've gone out and interviewed the women, the media has. | ||
| I saw stories that they really put gasoline in plastic bags when a hurricane's coming to hold the gasoline. | ||
| Because they buy everything else in their life and put it in a plastic bag. | ||
| Well, this must be good, even though it eats through it in about 10 seconds. | ||
| And the video, the media went and interviewed the woman because they saw her license plate that was trying to charge the Tesla. | ||
| And she said, well, I just bought the car and I was tired that day. | ||
| Now I'm putting women down, it's just mainly that these are women doing this. | ||
| These are real videos. | ||
| A lot of men are like this too, but women particularly, on average, it's that part of the graph that's really high, do not understand how anything operates, but they're the most likely to believe in the system because they're disconnected from it. | ||
| So if a farmer is the closest to reality because they're having to make it or break it, or a rancher, or an oil field worker, Women's jobs mainly are not taking care of children. | ||
| It's just working in a corporate la-la land. | ||
| I'm not singling women out. | ||
| But how are they going to deal with the collapse of society? | ||
| Because to me, that's frightening. | ||
| Because it's hard to keep civilization going. | ||
| And if you even have a birth rate of 10-20% beneath replacement rate of 2.2, you have collapse. | ||
| Well, not just replacement rate has collapsed, Owen, but the general public. | ||
| I mean, I remember my dad's dad. | ||
| My other grandfather was... | ||
| I mean, it's not even... | ||
| I cannot imagine... | ||
| Oh yeah, 100%. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| This is a little bit like if the Unabomber didn't have an education. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| This is very much like the modern technology is evil! | ||
| But he doesn't understand any of what he's saying, you know? | ||
| I don't understand any of you. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, it seems to be jumping around quite a bit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Seems tangential. | ||
| A very, like, a concern for women. | ||
| And then his uncle, whatever, is making tin can squirrel dinners. | ||
| You know, it is like a, just as we have, you know, just as they have a documented fetishization of movies for, like, the vision of the future, so they have a vision of movies for the past, you know? | ||
| Like, they don't remember, they don't know what the past was. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| They have no idea. | ||
| None! | ||
| They're just like, oh man, it was better then! | ||
| Shut the fuck up. | ||
| Well, and these images they have of people that they knew when they were younger, or something like with Alex, and it's like, yes, you were five, and your uncle looked really cool. | ||
| Like Superman, almost. | ||
| That's because you were smaller than him. | ||
| You looked up real high. | ||
| Just like your dad was the smartest boy in Texas. | ||
| Yeah, and I mean, I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say, even if you think it would be better in the past for you, it wouldn't be for everybody else. | ||
| Very, very... | ||
| Well, that's the thing that's so... | ||
| Great and convenient about the pseudo-Nazism that Alex and Owen subscribe to is they don't care about those other people who wouldn't be doing so well. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| That's an essential part of their ideology. | ||
| It's a feature, not a bug. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So we've one last clip here, and I would say that it's just Alex and Owen being really creepy about people who have a lot of kids. | ||
| You know, I've had a lot of things that I was a little resentful for over the years, like being kicked out of my profession in Hollywood and a lot of betrayals and all that. | ||
| And looking back with some hindsight, it freed me up in a lot of ways. | ||
| Like, I would have been on the road all the time. | ||
| You know, you can make a good living doing it yourself just directly doing comedy for the people that want to hear it. | ||
| You wouldn't be breeding like rabbits. | ||
| You wouldn't have half those kids. | ||
| You're like, instead of more money and a bunch of bars late at night and cigarette smoke, I've got all these great kids. | ||
| This is awesome. | ||
| Yeah, I would have missed all those ovulation cycles. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And so, yeah, I think that that's what I would... | ||
| Because I don't know the exact answer, and you don't have to be a farmer. | ||
| Like, everybody has their craft or whatever they're good at. | ||
| Because the biggest crop is men and women having children. | ||
| And you've got one hell of a crop now. | ||
| I'm a little bit envious right now. | ||
| Yeah, no, I get envious of people with a lot of kids. | ||
| You know, I'm always just like, like I have friends with like eight kids and I'm like, and they'll like live in a trailer. | ||
| And I'm just like, I'm legitimately envious of them because I'm just like, that's where it's at. | ||
| You're weird. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| You're very weird. | ||
| That's not okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's okay for you to believe that, I guess. | ||
| I think it's okay to have a lot of kids if you want, and you can provide them with a decent life, and it's okay to, I guess, want more kids if you have kids. | ||
| I think it's weird to be jealous of people with a lot of kids. | ||
| Yeah, that's so strange. | ||
| Especially if you're Owen Benjamin and Alex Jones. | ||
| I think one of the roots of my discomfort there is that children are things! | ||
| True. | ||
| Children are things in this conversation, which is very strange to me. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's weird. | ||
| Like, I'm jealous of this family with all these kids. | ||
| It implies not that you want to make more kids, but you want to take those kids. | ||
| Also, also, no. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| I refuse that idea entirely. | ||
| That is an achievable goal for you, sir. | ||
| You can downsize to a trailer and have more kids. | ||
| That is something you can do. | ||
| If you are envious, feel free to do it. | ||
| I don't think he was saying he was envious of the trailer part of it. | ||
| I don't think so either. | ||
| No, he just wants more kids. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is also achievable, I suppose. | ||
| Seems like it. | ||
| He's got ten acres. | ||
| You can put kids... | ||
| I bet you could fill ten acres with, like, 5,000 kids. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I have no idea how big ten acres is. | ||
| No. | ||
| But also, I don't think kids are that big. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| For a while. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Yeah, you could cram more kids than adults in there. | ||
| Yeah, it would diminish the amount you could fit into 10 acres over time. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| Yeah, I just think it's weird. | ||
| I don't think anything about wanting a large family or anything is that strange. | ||
| I don't agree with it myself, personally. | ||
| I wouldn't want it, but I don't necessarily look down on somebody. | ||
| But I found the articulation of it just real unsettling. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's... | ||
| Coming from us, two dudes with no children, you do what you do. | ||
| You're kid people, you know? | ||
| You've got kids. | ||
| You guys have different thoughts and feelings about kids. | ||
| And that's fine. | ||
| But just know that I think that a lot of the stuff you say is gross. | ||
| And a little weird. | ||
| And a little weird. | ||
| But the thing with Alex having four kids, and I think Owen has seven, I think. | ||
| Jesus! | ||
| Yeah, or maybe six. | ||
| I don't know, somewhere up there. | ||
| But for Alex to be like, You know, you have a lovely family or whatever. | ||
| That's fine, but I'm almost jealous of you having more kids than me. | ||
| It's just weird. | ||
| The way he said everything about it was weird. | ||
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Just weird! | |
| Don't be on crack and tell me about my kids. | ||
| Don't do stimulants and then talk to me about my kids. | ||
| I feel like that's just fair. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's politeness. | ||
| Why didn't you talk to Daniel Estelin about whether or not you're jealous of the amount of kids he has? | ||
| Totally. | ||
| That's our new first opening question. | ||
| How many kids you got? | ||
| Am I jealous or not? | ||
| Right. | ||
| What about the guy who showed up at Peter Hotez's house? | ||
| I'm jealous of his kids. | ||
| That's a new segment. | ||
| Shit, stupid. | ||
| Very stupid. | ||
| This is a dumb show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I found it really interesting the way that these figures are coming back from the past. | ||
| Some of them, kind of understandably, like Daniel Estelin, it's like, well, why haven't you just had him around as is? | ||
| It makes sense. | ||
| He's a dumb fuck pseudo-expert that Alex can trot out. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Owen Benjamin makes no sense. | ||
| This is unearned in terms of him coming back around. | ||
| There's no reason Alex would want to have him back unless he has a feeling that Owen has some fans that he would want to try and appeal to. | ||
| And if Alex knows what Owen's fans are into, then he's trying to specifically recruit folks who are... | ||
| So, this isn't good. | ||
| Yeah, because you are not having... | ||
| I can't get outside my comic brain here, you know? | ||
| Like, you booked a comic. | ||
| They should be funny. | ||
| He tried. | ||
| I know. | ||
| But that's clearly not what he's there for, because Alex can't even handle it. | ||
| No. | ||
| You know, like, even if he was funny, which he's definitely not. | ||
| No. | ||
| Alex can't deal with funny. | ||
| Because he doesn't understand what's funny. | ||
| Did you hear that laugh? | ||
| He can handle funny. | ||
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Oh my god. | |
| So it's like, why are you booking a comedian anyways? | ||
| Why would you ever book a comedian on that show? | ||
| I just don't understand it. | ||
| Well, then it's a comedian slash bigot. | ||
| You know, also, I had that thought. | ||
| Like, you know how the Nazi cinema thing? | ||
| You know, everybody's like, hey, the Nazis had cinema. | ||
| You know, they had those... | ||
| Christian cinema? | ||
| Do what? | ||
| Never mind. | ||
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Oh, pfft. | |
| All right. | ||
| Nicely done. | ||
| Well done. | ||
| I register. | ||
| No, the, like, you know, the Lenny Riefenstahl films, like all that stuff. | ||
| There's no way that there were great Nazi comics. | ||
| That's not a thing that could have been. | ||
| You can't be a funny fascist. | ||
| I just don't think you can do it. | ||
| I agree that I don't feel like that could ever really work, but now I'm just like, I want to try and find if there were. | ||
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I know! | |
| Like, who was... | ||
| Who was the number one Nazi clown? | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, not clown. | ||
| Because I think that could be done. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Clowning could be done. | ||
| Clowning can be done for anybody. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Clowning is for everyone. | ||
| Comedy. | ||
| Like monology. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like actual stand-up comedy. | ||
| I would be interested in seeing it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I bet it's not good. | ||
| Much like this. | ||
| So, we'll be back, Jordan, with another episode. | ||
| Maybe we'll see Owen Benjamin return to his rightful place as a fourth hour host in the future. | ||
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Oh my god. | |
| Whee! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But until we check back in, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep, we're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Yep, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZXClerks. | ||
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bling bling bling bling bling bleep Woo, yeah! | |
| Woo, yeah! | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |