#822: June 19, 2023—Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes dissect Alex Jones’ bizarre episode, where he smears vaccine researcher Peter Hotez as a "disgusting blob" tied to COVID-19’s lab origins, praises viral harassment by guest Alex Rosen (with entrapment history), and invites disgraced comedian Owen Benjamin back despite past feuds. Jones frames rural collapse through misogynistic labor myths, jokingly calls kids a "great crop," and compares modern society to Nazi-era chaos, while the hosts mock his hypocrisy, poor humor, and creepy nostalgia for rural life. The episode reveals Jones’ desperate ideological recruitment over substance, exposing his show’s descent into unhinged, commodifying rhetoric. [Automatically generated summary]
My bright spot today, Jordan, is, as long-time listeners of the show will know, last year we had the dreamy, creamy summer, and we did not do it this year because it's too much.
I went through a lot of ice creams.
I couldn't think of another thing that would be creamy that I would want to eat a bunch of.
You know, I mean, you didn't know this, but I have been in talks with all of the ice cream manufacturers over the last year or so about the Dreamy Creamy Summer, and they were all very highly anticipating who would win.
I think what's crazy about it is that this one I would recommend over, like, Final Fantasy XV or XIII or those ones, I would never recommend those to you.
This one I might, but here's what you're doing.
You're committing to watching six seasons of a TV show in four days.
Yeah, I mean, we talked about it, and it's a little bit like if you were watching Game of Thrones, and then the show paused and was like, okay, now this is the Battle of Heron.
You gotta use your right stick and your left stick and X and square and all that stuff.
And then when you're done, it's like, cool, now we're going to episode 16 of Game of Thrones, you know?
Getting the band back together for one last job because he's running out of money and they need to rob the final bankruptcy court to get away for good.
So first, I had a dream that Dan and Jordan came to Glasgow, and they were kind of pretentious arseholes, so I think they should come here to prove me specifically wrong.
I think a society where two people have so much outsized power and influence that they can just say mean things and then a human being is, I mean, a torrential downpour of bullshit on them.
A half ago, I said on air, January 2022, that the entire House of Cards concerning the poison shots had come down on top of the globalists.
And that they would double down and try to intimidate and threaten Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
And that that would make people like Joe Rogan dig deeper into the science and find out not only did the shots not work, but they knew they didn't work, and they created the virus, and it erases your immune system, and it's a plane to depopulate.
And I said on air, the globalists are so arrogant that they're going to do this and push it, and that will bring them down.
When I say hundreds of millions, Joe Rogan's getting hundreds of millions today himself.
Just regular response videos are getting like 10 million, 5 million, and there's thousands of people posting them.
And there's all these folks going out, just the general public, and finding all the clips of Peter Hotez who helped spearhead these poisoned shots against the American people and who spearheads calling for the arrest of anyone that doesn't take shots and the arrest of anyone that questions the scientist.
And he says, questioning is the opposite of science.
You can debate it in terms of discussing papers and stuff in these settings and things, but he was saying that I'm not going to debate Robert Kennedy Jr.
I feel like we did this all 20 years ago whenever people were having those giant climate debates on every TV station where they'd be like, okay, well we've got one climate expert and then we've got a crazy person.
And we'll just sit him down and that'll just take care of it, right?
But yeah, trying to intimidate and badger the legitimate person into having that argument is a little more challenging, and that's kind of what you see here.
I'm just telling you, if I was going to cast somebody for a movie about pedophiles that drive around in white vans grabbing kids, I would come to him hat in hand and say, Sir, we need you to be the leader of the underground base with the kidnapped children.
Now, in reality, he's just a guy that runs a big children's hospital and is one of the head infectious disease people under Fauci, pushing four shots, lockdowns, the arrest of those that don't take them, and taking over our bodies.
He doesn't rape children physically with his penis.
We don't have any proof of that.
He wants to rape them with needles full of GMO concoctions.
With his little, I wonder if he porky pigs it with the little bow tie on there.
No, no, no, because Trump got fooled by the globalists into doing what he did, whereas Peter Hotez was the guy who specifically engineered COVID in a lab and then made the vaccines.
They have been proven to be liars about the whole thing.
They created the virus.
They released it for a giant globalist power grab.
It's called Operation Lockstep.
You're living in the middle of it.
They have a UN world treaty they're trying to push through where the UN controls every major nation state's medical policy and you have no rights under it.
And all your medical privacy and autonomy of your body, bodily autonomy, is stripped.
They are flagrant.
Clear and present dangers to civilization and society.
They're part of a biomedical, eugenics, transhumanist power grab, people.
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Oh, somebody went to his house and talked to him in his yard.
But here's the slight difference that I would make.
I don't actually think it's that bad to show up at someone's house who is a matter of, like, you know, you're doing a news story or something like that.
I know that this does happen periodically with journalists.
And one of the reasons why I think it's kind of more okay for somebody who works under the umbrella of an actual company or, you know, some actual news organization is that if they are acting inappropriately or indelicately, they're probably going to get in trouble or fired.
Yeah, whereas somebody who's a ding-dong with a camera isn't necessarily going to have those same measures of accountability, and it's way easier for it to be something that gets out of control, something that is done.
And by the way, I saw it all over the place duplicated.
It's probably like 50 million right now, so here's the problem.
I'm not going to get into specifics, but they've run ops on me.
When we expose pedophiles before, they'll then distract off to a place where they're not actually doing it to protect from what was really going on in New York.
Then they have somebody go in with a gun, or these groups do, and then they turn it around that I sent them.
You're calling for peace.
You're calling for justice.
You're not calling for violence.
We're not calling for violence.
You as a journalist and as an activist went and saw him in his yard and talked to him, and he didn't even tell you to leave, but you said bye-bye, and you left.
And you went to the police department as opposed to calling for your arrest, and you talked to them and said what you did, and they said, no, you've done nothing wrong.
Obviously, it's a stunt to show how the left are a bunch of lying frauds.
Now, if you'd have burned down some police stations again, you probably would have gotten bailed out by Kamala Harris, which she did do stuff like that.
But I am concerned that this is exactly what they'll do.
In fact, I've been predicting for two years they're going to false flag some of their gods, like Fauci or Hotez or some of the others.
Now, what you did is great.
And they're not going to be able to connect it to that.
But I am concerned that they themselves or their controllers are going to stage something because, Alex, they're getting their asses handed to them.
I mean, they are getting routed.
If we were waking up three years ago, I see this metaphysically, metaphorically, culturally, mathematically.
I mean, the fact that everywhere people know the shots are poison, that they're a fraud, that these guys are scammers, and the fact that they've tried to launch a counteroffensive saying that we're frauds, it's blown up in their face, and 95% of the comments are positive for us, shows devastating victory.
So I'm really concerned about what they're going to pull.
Yeah, and, you know, it's just, I mean, I called COVID before Revenge of the Nerds, and that's exactly what it is.
I mean, people like Peter Hotez who, and obviously high school doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but people like Peter Hotez who probably didn't have a lot of friends in high school, not a lot of friends growing up, just not really a likable person.
I think a lot of COVID is psychological of the fact that they finally get their revenge on people who are fulfilled in life, happy people.
I think it's just retribution, man.
I think they're all like little Elliot Rodgers who are just finally saying, oh, I'm going to get revenge on all these people who wronged me and all this type of stuff.
That's what I really think it is because now all these nerds and these geeks and these losers, they felt fulfilled doing all this stuff because they could say, oh, I'm the cool one now because I got vaccinated.
It's a very bizarre opinion and perception of how people work and think.
And I think that there's another element of this that probably is worth mentioning, and that is that this guy, Alex Rosen, what he does is he entraps pedophiles online.
So there is a phenomenon of people who have TikTok channels or YouTube channels.
be underage folks and then lure someone and then gotcha.
They record the basically Chris Hansen amateur though without the police generally being involved.
I think that not to defend anybody who is cruising for underage people online because I have a whole lot of sympathy for them getting...
Embarrassed in the video or arrested.
But I do think, in the same way that coming to someone's house to ask investigative journalistic questions is best left to people who have accountability, who have a certain amount of a job or protocol, things like that in place.
It is better, I think, generally.
I find it very...
Worrying.
The idea of people who've kind of made cottage industries of themselves hunting down people vigilante-ish online.
So, listen, until I said the early 1980s, American society was mostly concerned.
Sure.
values and their outlook of life was conservative.
And so then the situation changed in favor of the liberals with the advent of Reaganomics, Credit stimulation of demand.
And since this mechanism, which was based on the refinancing of private debt, allowed for the creation of a very stable middle class, more than half of the population of the United States, in fact, not only the United States, but we're talking about America, served as a, let's say, social anchor.
And the middle class, unlike the poor, is very interested in having a strong state, even if the strong state is controlled by the bankers, which it is today.
And so it was from this period, again, we're going back to the early 1980s, that liberalism, not in a classical sense of the 19th century liberalism, such as Voltaire, for example, but modern liberals, was a gay parade, juvenile justice, sex change operations, pedophilia, which is about to be legalized the world over, etc., etc.
Well, if you conceive of sort of liberal governments, in terms of liberty and such, if you conceive of that as what the New World Order is, then perhaps.
But it's strange, because it is far more of a full-throated support of Putin, even now.
Basically being like, you know, if Putin loses in Ukraine, we all lose.
And I think that one of the reasons that it's actually advantageous for him to plead guilty is you get some kind of a resolution for it.
And like I saw the headline on InfoWars was InfoWars reporter charged while Hunter Biden goes free or something, you know, like that like ability to, to propagandize off it.
But yeah, if you think it's like a, he's turned state property on, on Alex, it's ridiculous.
This gives me chills because I've got four children.
One of them is six years old.
And I look at an elite that are so delusional they can't see what's happening.
But the good news is...
Daniel's a really smart intellectual.
Thank you.
He was able to meet with these people because they were listening to some of the dissenters in Bilderberg that actually thought, no, these people are nuts.
They don't see what's happening.
So he was talking to people that were at the highest level of wargaming 20 years ago, 18 years ago, 15 years ago, 10 years ago, about their own concern about how they get out of what they've done.
So when we're up here...
We're not talking about some right-wing football issue or some left-wing political distraction issue that are sub-issues.
We're talking, like you said, 30,000, 10,000-foot view that only big picture and being honest will do anything.
Instead of debating their kind of scorched earth, stay-behind network thing where they're all digging into bunkers, I don't want the elite to have to be in bunkers.
I want to have some kind of peace deal and fix the world.
Yeah, and you know, I'm thinking of the context of Bilderberg members going rogue and talking to Daniel Estela and being like, how are we going to get out of this situation?
Well, the idea is, again, the idea is you stay where you are, but you start building a community within, because in the end, you're going to protect and defend your nation.
Okay?
God's life, country, whatever that is, whatever that may be, it doesn't make a difference.
Okay?
You'll always be safer in your own land than anywhere else in the world.
Because if you don't know the terrain and the people, people should be getting folks they trust, getting ready now, and getting psychologically ready for what's going down.
And then we can do anything together if we're even psychologically, spiritually ready is what you're saying.
And by the way, it's funny you say that, because I read the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Times in London, then I read the CFR, and I said to some of these globalists I met with the last few years, I said, so I'm here because you don't know what to do.
And they said, no, things are coming to an end.
We're trying to figure out what you think.
And so I can tell you what you're saying is accurate.
What you just said is the whole, they know they've come to a brick wall.
Alright, for the next hour and 22 minutes, Owen Benjamin, a popular comedian and researcher and talk show host, joins us.
He's been on before years ago, and I wanted to get him on just because he's a controversial guy and definitely challenges the system, and that's important.
Whether you agree with somebody or not, it's important to promote free speech.
In this great age of tyranny.
So we're going to cover the waterfront here.
We haven't talked before he came on.
I called him a few days ago, asked him to come on.
And so he was too much for Alex, too much of a Nazi for Alex, and so he didn't do the fourth hour anymore, and instead was in his compound in Idaho, where he would drunkenly sit around a fire and livestream anti-Semitic shit to a smallish audience of people who would call him Big Bear.
And then one of the things that I will say, not to his credit, not a positive about Owen Benjamin, but something that I find entertaining, is that he's a guy who doesn't give a fuck.
Like, when the intellectual dark web decided to disown him, he put out a video.
Talking about how much they're a bunch of shitheads and how, like, they all worship Sam Harris and his parents made Golden Girls and he's just living off a silver spoon, this fucking rich asshole.
And if they are talking, they should probably be dealing with the fact that they both hate each other, or presumably hate each other, and have pretty fundamental problems with each other's worldviews and careers.
Then, like, 30 years afterwards, I could see getting Owen, Benjamin, and Alex to, like, sit down and just be like, you know, we said a lot of stuff to each other in the past.
On this episode, I think it would be incredibly valuable if Alex and Owen would have a conversation about what exactly it was that made them in, like, we could not be...
Yeah, I mean, but the problem there is the honest conversation is, listen, I agree with you on everything that you believe, but by using slight euphemisms, I can say it, and if you tell the truth like I say I do, then we're gonna get in trouble.
Owen has that, so maybe he's trying to grow his brand again, and so he's willing to not say some of these things on Alex's show in order to get back that platform, get some of that money coming back in.
It's not about how he very publicly called Alex a liar and told tales out of school about his time working for Alex.
I think that that stuff is in the air, and they're pretending that it's not.
Anybody who's watching this who has an awareness of the two of them, anybody who's watched Alex's show for a couple years, would be like, you guys are cowards.
If Alex and Owen had the relationship that they had, and Alex calls and is like, hey, do you want to be on the show?
If Owen says yes, There's really only two reasons.
One is to confront him.
And two is because he's desperate.
And he doesn't confront him.
Because every other thing about their entire path together would lead me to be like, no.
And isn't super into RFK Jr., but they play a clip of RFK Jr. from deep in the past when RFK had written a book about the judge that fought George Wallace to desegregate.
This is Robert F. Kennedy with his voice before he got paralyzed.
Here he is.
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There's a lot of people in Alabama, and George Wallace certainly is.
He's had a great effect on, I think, the entire South and on the civil rights movement in this country in general.
Truly a remarkable man.
This is the man that Griffin Bell wanted to have named, or Jimmy Carter did, as head of the FBI.
But because of ill health, he could not.
But he was the federal judge in Alabama, as you say, that had such an impact on not just Alabama, but the South.
That's right.
During the 60s, he integrated.
Every major institution in Alabama.
Because of the political structure down there, and really a politics that really involved George Wallace politics, it really involved a stance of defiance.
He was really forced to go in and actually take over institutions that in other places in the South were...
It's so obvious and so telling that somebody just saying they're against segregation is extremely leftist.
It should tell you everything you need to know about the idea of like, oh no, they're good with the 18th fucking amendment or whatever, and they're not.
And let's be clear, there is no other context of the clip that they played.
That's really all you could take away from it.
And if you watch the interview, it is about this book that Kennedy had written about the guy who fought...
segregation.
Yeah.
And so if Alex did watch that entire interview, that's what it's about.
Yeah.
So that's what he is calling like hyper leftist.
Yeah.
And it makes sense because I mean like we've been over this a bit in the past, but like so many of Alex's ideological forefathers and the people who wrote the things that he is like, you know, heavily bases his worldview on were people who are associated with the And his governorship.
But there was one moment that I thought was actually pretty smooth there.
And that is when Owen starts talking about his theories about pornography.
Alex kind of cuts him off.
And I think that is intentional because Alex knows that Owen Benjamin believes the Jews are giving everyone pornography to sublimate their aggression and bear-like tendencies.
You're supposed to have kids running around fighting while you're taking care of chickens and shoveling crap and, you know, shooting a wolf or hit it with a bow and arrow.
I don't know if one of your producers can find one of my videos I did.
Where I showed people exactly how they're controlled through goats, where you bring the goat in, you give it pornography, satellite TV, corn syrup, fluoride, whatever it is, and they put their face in and they're eating it, and then you put them in crippling debt, you know, you put the thing around their neck, and then you milk them, which is their future income, and then you, you know, you castrate them, you call them brave and beautiful if you don't want them procreating.
And I'm watching this, and I'm like, oh, it's just all farming.
And so it's really hard to trick or deceive the farming type, the rural type, and I think that's why they're so hated amongst the establishment.
As long as they're not farmers, because farmers can't be tricked.
But here's really what I want to say.
There is a very serious issue with mental health in agricultural communities, rural areas.
According to an article from earlier this year in the New York Times, quote, the rate of suicide among farmers is three and a half times higher than among the general population, according to the National Rural Health Association.
Suicide rates in rural communities increased by 48 percent between 2000 to 2018, compared with 34 percent in urban.
There is a lot of depression and mental health issues that get ignored.
He should watch more movies, and I guess there probably aren't enough.
More movies where there's like this kid on a farm who has big dreams, feels depressed all the time, their family is unwilling to accept them because they're different and they're talking about mental illness issues, and then they have to leave, right?
Imagine if he had seen that as a regular story that happened constantly.
So, while you listen to this next clip, I'd like you to remember that Alex believes that certain books shouldn't be allowed in schools because they're going to scandalize children and what have you.
Here's Alex telling a little bit of a story from his past.
Starting when I was 11, they put me, for like two months out of the summer, working for a major ranch next door to our ranch that we'd sold to decades before.
Big, nice ranch with black angus, you name it.
So I only worked there like two months, but at first it was really hot, it was crazy, 100-something degrees.
But I got, after I beat them, they're a month, because they had thousands of cattle.
And they were out open range, we also fed them.
Three or four days a week, 18 wheelers would pull up.
And it would be my job with a few other people, most of them a little 14, 15, 16, to get up there and to get all the feed off and then to go load it.
And I got to where, after a month of doing it, a couple of days a week, like I loved it when the trucks pulled in.
Gives me about two of them to climb in there and get it all out and do it.
I love when they say, go to this hay barn and grab all this hay and move it here.
This is a great story.
This is a great story.
Incredible work.
Learned so much.
Industrial level vet.
We're talking about taking cows to slaughterhouses.
Getting ready for that.
That was part of the job.
Artificial insemination.
It was just amazing.
And I'm telling you, I got to where 5 a.m., alarm clock goes off.
Grandma's cooking you breakfast.
Truck pulls by, picks you up.
6:30 a.m.
You're in a truck with a bunch of cowboys going out to dehorn 5,000 cattle.
And at the end of the day, you're not just paid that money.
They go, here's 500 bucks.
You did a good job on top of your money.
Now we're going to get whiskey.
And I'd be driving back and they'd be pulling off the whorehouses and I'd just go, don't take me home.
But I'm telling you, man, that's what Texas is all about.
But I was thinking about this during the break because a friend of mine just sent me a photo of a man opening his car door but leaning through the window to put his credit card in the computer.
Hey, we've all been here.
And people look at these videos and think they're fake.
They've gone out and interviewed the women, the media has.
I saw stories that they really put gasoline in plastic bags when a hurricane's coming to hold the gasoline.
Because they buy everything else in their life and put it in a plastic bag.
Well, this must be good, even though it eats through it in about 10 seconds.
And the video, the media went and interviewed the woman because they saw her license plate that was trying to charge the Tesla.
And she said, well, I just bought the car and I was tired that day.
Now I'm putting women down, it's just mainly that these are women doing this.
These are real videos.
A lot of men are like this too, but women particularly, on average, it's that part of the graph that's really high, do not understand how anything operates, but they're the most likely to believe in the system because they're disconnected from it.
So if a farmer is the closest to reality because they're having to make it or break it, or a rancher, or an oil field worker, Women's jobs mainly are not taking care of children.
It's just working in a corporate la-la land.
I'm not singling women out.
But how are they going to deal with the collapse of society?
Because to me, that's frightening.
Because it's hard to keep civilization going.
And if you even have a birth rate of 10-20% beneath replacement rate of 2.2, you have collapse.
Well, not just replacement rate has collapsed, Owen, but the general public.
You know, it is like a, just as we have, you know, just as they have a documented fetishization of movies for, like, the vision of the future, so they have a vision of movies for the past, you know?
Like, they don't remember, they don't know what the past was.
Well, and these images they have of people that they knew when they were younger, or something like with Alex, and it's like, yes, you were five, and your uncle looked really cool.
Yeah, and I mean, I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say, even if you think it would be better in the past for you, it wouldn't be for everybody else.
Great and convenient about the pseudo-Nazism that Alex and Owen subscribe to is they don't care about those other people who wouldn't be doing so well.
You know, I've had a lot of things that I was a little resentful for over the years, like being kicked out of my profession in Hollywood and a lot of betrayals and all that.
And looking back with some hindsight, it freed me up in a lot of ways.
Like, I would have been on the road all the time.
You know, you can make a good living doing it yourself just directly doing comedy for the people that want to hear it.
I think it's okay to have a lot of kids if you want, and you can provide them with a decent life, and it's okay to, I guess, want more kids if you have kids.
I think it's weird to be jealous of people with a lot of kids.