Today, Dan and Jordan finally have some new Alex to cover. In this installment, Alex broadcasts from a laptop in a hotel room, where he sings the praises of the John Birch Society, announces the demise of Budweiser, and insists that everyone actually really does like him.
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| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| knowledge fight. | ||
| Need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
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I love you, everybody! | |
| Hey, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| I have a quick question for you today, sir. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| My bright spot right now is actually after I said the altar of Selene, Selene came up to me and I'm petting her as I'm speaking. | ||
| Let's see if she has anything to say. | ||
| Oh, that was a good Celine take! | ||
| Cut that, clean it up, that goes in the opening. | ||
| Rarely am able to capture that on mic. | ||
| She does not usually like it when I put a mic in front of her face. | ||
| No, that was perfect. | ||
| And now she has walked off. | ||
| Gone forever. | ||
| That is not my bright spot, though, although pretty fun. | ||
| Pretty solid. | ||
| So look, here's the deal. | ||
| You like peanut butter. | ||
| I have heard of it. | ||
| You love it. | ||
| I do love it. | ||
| You love Reese's. | ||
| I love them. | ||
| Your wife is allergic. | ||
| It would kill her. | ||
| Literally kill her. | ||
| So that is a difficult position for you to be in. | ||
| It's a Romeo and Juliet, Horatio kind of situation. | ||
| I'm 50-50 on it. | ||
| You're 50-50 on it? | ||
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I like it fine. | |
| As a positive? | ||
| No, I like it fine. | ||
| I'm saying that your wife, no peanut butter. | ||
| You love it. | ||
| Love peanut butter. | ||
| Me, I'm in the middle. | ||
| Somewhere in the middle. | ||
| But I understand it. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| What the fuck is this? | ||
| It's spectacular. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I do not know where this is going. | ||
| Hey, man. | ||
| I get peanut butter. | ||
| So, a little bit back. | ||
| My buddy, Nicky Gifts. | ||
| We periodically will text each other pictures of new candies that you see at the checkout aisle. | ||
| And he sent me a picture of Reese's. | ||
| They have a new creamy variety. | ||
| And I always thought, like... | ||
| I don't feel like it's not creamy. | ||
| I felt like it was creamy. | ||
| I don't know what the difference of this is going to be. | ||
| And I just let it be. | ||
| I'm like, I don't know. | ||
| I'm not interested. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The other day, I saw Reese's Creamy. | ||
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They pop up. | |
| Decided to grab it. | ||
| So good. | ||
| So good? | ||
| So it's better. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Oh, what do they call it? | ||
| Do they call it a Reese's Creamy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, that's the worst name I can think of. | ||
| It was only after eating one that I realized how grainy. | ||
| Kind of the normal Reese's is. | ||
| Yeah, that's pretty grainy. | ||
| Yeah, but you kind of just think like, yeah, it's the texture that you're used to. | ||
| That's the Reese's texture. | ||
| You don't think that you would want other than that. | ||
| Well, I would be concerned that it would be more like a caramel. | ||
| Soft, like that kind of pull. | ||
| It's just like creamy peanut butter. | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| Kind of. | ||
| And it's great. | ||
| And this led me to a conversation with Naked Gifts about how this was great. | ||
| Because he said, it's not that different. | ||
| I think it's worlds apart. | ||
| I'll never go back. | ||
| Until they make you go back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Until Doritos gets wind of your other shit. | ||
| And this got me into a conversation with him about... | ||
| Creamy and chunky peanut butter. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Now, I don't know if you have a preference. | ||
| Oh, I very much do. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Extra crunchy. | ||
| Give me full peanuts in there. | ||
| I want a whole peanut to crunch on. | ||
| Just put peanuts on a piece of bread then, man. | ||
| Get them wet. | ||
| I will. | ||
| Just soak some peanuts. | ||
| Just soak some peanuts. | ||
| You're good. | ||
| Oh, these are my dipping peanuts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My preference is creamy. | ||
| And here's the reason. | ||
| I like peanuts as well. | ||
| I don't mind. | ||
| I don't mind the fact that peanuts have a crunch to them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it's a butter. | ||
| It is a butter. | ||
| I don't want crunchy butter. | ||
| Like, if you had margarine, do you want chunks in it? | ||
| It's a butter. | ||
| I mean, okay. | ||
| Is there a precedent? | ||
| All right, let me ask you a question. | ||
| It's a smooth product. | ||
| When you make mashed potatoes, do you leave the skins in or not? | ||
| Well, I don't think I've ever actually made mashed potatoes myself. | ||
| Ugh. | ||
| Because I'm lazy. | ||
| And growing up, always no skins. | ||
| No skins when you were growing up. | ||
| That was how my parents did it, so that's kind of what I'm used to. | ||
| Well, no wonder you like the smooth peanut butter. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| I'm telling you that when you make it with the skins, it's better. | ||
| Look, I don't mind... | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| Can you make it with the skins and also have it be real smooth? | ||
| You can, but it's got a little bit of texture in there. | ||
| I think mashed potatoes should be smooth. | ||
| They are smooth with a little bit of texture. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Look, I like french fries, but I also don't mind a potato wedge. | ||
| That's got the skin on it. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| Look, that's different, though. | ||
| Because I would say that mashed potatoes are not a butter. | ||
| You put butter in mashed potatoes. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Alright, foie gras. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Is that a butter? | ||
| I would never eat foie gras. | ||
| I mean, I'm asking what it is. | ||
| I don't know! | ||
| It's liver, right? | ||
| But don't they, like, shove stuff into goose's? | ||
| They force-feed goose to... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that what that is? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Oh, I thought that was... | ||
| What's pate? | ||
| Is it... | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| I'm out of all food conversations forever. | ||
| Speaking of what brings me to another bright spot. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| I constantly, like, Celine loves wet food. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I've always been in a position where she will only eat the stuff that's extra gravy, like little bit of, you know, chunks of meat or whatever. | ||
| I ordered a large shipment of wet food from the delivery, the pet place. | ||
| Wherever, yeah. | ||
| Can't come up with the name. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I accidentally got the pate. | ||
| And I was like, she's not going to eat any of this. | ||
| I don't want to send it back. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So I just started giving it to her and she loves it. | ||
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She loves it. | |
| It's fine. | ||
| Great. | ||
| She loves pate now. | ||
| She's a cat. | ||
| And it's smooth. | ||
| That's the point. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I got it. | ||
| Anyway, what's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot, Dan, is tomorrow, today, when you are listening to this. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| A movie will be released named Spider-Man Across the Universe. | ||
| Oh, it's the sequel to Enter the Spider-Verse, right? | ||
| I'm so excited. | ||
| I can't begin to describe how excited I am. | ||
| Do we got Nick Cage in that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I've tried to keep myself unaware of anything. | ||
| So the first movie came out and I was fired unceremoniously, almost simultaneously. | ||
| And part of that, like, weird process that I went through... | ||
| That's wild that that's the same time frame. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Wow. | ||
| I watched Into the Spider-Verse probably a hundred times. | ||
| Like, over and over. | ||
| Like, I didn't have anywhere to go during the day, and I didn't know what to do with myself, so I just kept watching Into the Spider-Verse, depressed out of my mind, you know? | ||
| And so, it is a perfect movie, and I could not be more excited for Across the Spider-Verse. | ||
| I'm bubbling. | ||
| I'm going to go as soon as I possibly can tomorrow morning. | ||
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Great. | |
| It's going to be amazing. | ||
| I'm excited for you. | ||
| Oh, I'm so excited. | ||
| That's one of the movies where everybody who's ever talked about it has talked about how great it is. | ||
| I believe them. | ||
| It is a perfect movie. | ||
| And I have accepted that it is fantastic. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And yet I have not seen it. | ||
| No, and I understand. | ||
| You know us. | ||
| I've never pushed it on you. | ||
| But if the opportunity arose where someone was like, hey, here it is. | ||
| Let's watch it. | ||
| I would say yes in an instant. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| But going out of my way, taking that second step, it almost never happens with movies. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like right now, I brought up Nicolas Cage. | ||
| True. | ||
| I would love to see that Renfield movie. | ||
| Not gonna do it until it's put in front of me. | ||
| That's what I miss about having TV and cable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That ability to just click and like, oh, that's on. | ||
| The passive acceptance of somebody curating for you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or when I worked at a movie theater where it's just like, well, it's... | ||
| That's what's on. | ||
| I just got off shift. | ||
| I'm gonna watch this stuff. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Because of movies being on TV... | ||
| That's why I saw National Treasure like 30 times. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because it's always on and I always want to watch it. | ||
| This is Nicolas Cage heavy at the moment. | ||
| Yeah, there is an element of like... | ||
| Sometimes I would like to have to find something, and sometimes just the simple effort of being like, oh, I'm going to choose to go watch this movie, is beyond what you can handle. | ||
| And you'd just rather be like, oh, somebody did something for me? | ||
| That's what I'm doing today! | ||
| Hooray! | ||
| Yeah, I getcha. | ||
| Yeah, it's almost enough for me to think about, like, I'm gonna just get cable. | ||
| I don't think I will, though. | ||
| Yeah, well, I will say this to you. | ||
| Into the Spider-Verse is probably one of the top three animated movies ever made, and top five any. | ||
| It's right up there with Cool World. | ||
| No! | ||
| It's right up there with Princess Mononoke. | ||
| That's what we're talking about here. | ||
| What about Who Framed Roger Rabbit? | ||
| Do you classify that as an animated movie? | ||
| No, that's a hybrid movie. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Well, I mean... | ||
| All Lloyd movies are technically cartoons also. | ||
| Like Adam's Family, technically a cartoon. | ||
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Anything with John Lloyd in it. | |
| Emperor's New Groove, that's got to be up there. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| That's a great one. | ||
| Not up there. | ||
| Patrick Warburton, performance of a lifetime. | ||
| It really did launch a voiceover career that I think is never going to end. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Solid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
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Indeed. | |
| And finally, Alex is back! | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| We're in the present! | ||
| In studio. | ||
| And that's not actually true. | ||
| He's not in studio. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And we'll get into that when we do. | ||
| All right. | ||
| But, yeah, he's back on air, at least. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| And so we're going to be talking about May 29th. | ||
| That's Memorial Day. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That was Monday. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And, yeah. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| He's in a hotel room. | ||
| Okay, we're already off to a good start. | ||
| Why is he in a hotel room? | ||
| Because he's on a two-week vacation or something. | ||
| I don't know what's going on here. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| As of the time of recording, he is still in this hotel room. | ||
| I don't know what's going on. | ||
| Is this fear and loathing in Las Vegas style? | ||
| Is he doing blow with fucking Johnny Depp or something? | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| He's definitely drinking. | ||
| Yeah, that's fair. | ||
| You do hear a couple times things that are very clearly him drinking while the camera has cut away from him. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| It's very mysterious. | ||
| But based on everything I know about the world he's in right now, I'd be on long vacations too. | ||
| That may not be an option soon. | ||
| So, good for you, Alex. | ||
| Yeah, good luck. | ||
| Spread that money before someone else can take it from you. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| So we'll get down to business on a lot of feelings about this, but before we do, let's say hello, Jordan, to some new wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Burb with Knife. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Captain Bark Richards. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| That dog's a murderer. | ||
| Next, the plural form of Lego is Lego. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Back out. | ||
| Next, Norm Pattis and I'm Afraid My Prank on Alex Has Gotten Out of Hand. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Next, congratulations Emily and Mary on the Wife House, House for Wives and Dog Wonks. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to someone. | ||
| Someone, Tanner, sent me a bucket of silly gooses. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Four stars. | ||
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | |
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ! | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| See, this is kind of fun, too, now. | ||
| Before, I would go through and get wonk names, and now how we have it, you gather them and send them to me in an email, and it's fun to cold-read them. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| It's been a while since you had to do that. | ||
| I appreciate you doing that, and then also the added thing of the, like... | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, it's nice. | ||
| Try to figure it out as I read it. | ||
| Is this a joke? | ||
| What's the bit here? | ||
| I remember early on, whenever you were still trying to do it straight from the Patreon site, and it was interesting, because you'd have to look down at it, and then it was fun. | ||
| It's impossible. | ||
| No, it's not possible. | ||
| That inbox is a disaster. | ||
| Terrifying. | ||
| Many apologies. | ||
| If you want a shout-out, send an email to knowledgefightatgmail.com. | ||
| Jordan will sort you out. | ||
| I read them, I will... | ||
| I will forward them. | ||
| I will take care of it. | ||
| So, yeah, like I said, Alex is in this hotel room. | ||
| And very exciting to have him back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And here we go. | ||
| The king has returned. | ||
| Or something. | ||
| It's Memorial Day. | ||
| It's Monday, May 29th, 2023. | ||
| I'm your host, Alex Jones. | ||
| I'll be hosting you today. | ||
| I have returned to the airwaves. | ||
| And I'm here on Memorial Day because it's such an important day. | ||
| When we look at what our country's turned into and where we're going and what so many have fought and died for, for the future and the existence of this republic. | ||
| But I wanted to talk about someone who fought in the Infowars so incredibly strong. | ||
| That was Robert Welsh from the John Birch Society, who was targeted by the ADL, the CIA. | ||
| That was declassified two weeks ago. | ||
| The national campaign of infiltration, of lies, of lawsuits, of harassment, of just criminal activity. | ||
| A truly authoritarian and totalitarian activity. | ||
| So, Alex is back. | ||
| He's on this webcam, sitting in a hotel room. | ||
| Owen's in the studio and does some of the anchor duties, like the two of them co-hosts for part of it, but Alex is around for most of the episode, not the third hour. | ||
| He legitimately looks insane, since the camera is the level of quality you find built into a laptop, and the shot is angled upward like it would be from a laptop. | ||
| Are you serious? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Have some professional sense. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| That's unreal. | ||
| He's just sitting alone in what appears to be a fairly nice hotel room, ranting about nonsense while we're forced to watch him from what appears to be below him. | ||
| It's a very unappealing thing. | ||
| It's a bad look, and it really... | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| if he just got a little mount for an iPhone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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It looks worse than I've seen before. | |
| People doing live streams out in public. | ||
| Yeah, that's not good. | ||
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Nah. | |
| That's not good. | ||
| As to that stuff about the John Birch Society, we covered that on our last present day episode, and I want to really focus in on what Alex is claiming. | ||
| He said that Robert Welsh and the JBS were targeted by the ADL and the CIA, and this was declassified last week. | ||
| In reality, what happened was that last week, Alex skimmed a headline of an article about a historian who was interviewed about a book he'd put out recently. | ||
| The book was about the John Birch Society. | ||
| And one chapter had to do with the fact that some of the members of the ADL had infiltrated the JBS on fact-finding missions. | ||
| Nothing was declassified, and the CIA wasn't in cahoots with these ADL members who went undercover. | ||
| This is a slippery way that Alex uses language to exaggerate his own oppression and the oppression of his ideological allies, and the way he tries to dress it up in the appearance of officialdom. | ||
| It sounds so much cooler to say the CIA was targeting his buddies and that this was declassified, as opposed to how dorky it sounds to complain about an interview with an author that you didn't even read. | ||
| You didn't read the book, you didn't read the interview, and you didn't read the article about the interview. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You know, the thought occurs that, like, because his telling of the story and the one that is real are so different. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, even if you would listen to him... | ||
| Tell it the first time. | ||
| Then looked it up and were like, well, that's not the same story. | ||
| You would be forgiven for thinking, oh, I just mistaken the wrong one. | ||
| Because they're so unrelated. | ||
| It's not like, oh, he's taking the wrong bits of information. | ||
| He's making up something whole cloth. | ||
| Yeah, and there's a couple things that are important to really tease out of this. | ||
| And the first is he's saying this stuff was declassified. | ||
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Right. | |
| It wasn't. | ||
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No. | |
| This author had found some documents in the Jewish Historical Society's archive. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It wasn't declassified. | ||
| It was never classified to begin with. | ||
| It was in a box. | ||
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Right. | |
| And this calls into question, you should keep in mind, every time Alex says things are declassified, this is the kind of thing he's willing to call declassified because it elevates and serves his purposes to do so. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Now, second, you've got to recognize what the point of this is. | ||
| And that is... | ||
| The feature of this is defending the John Birch Society, sort of, and that is because his argument is that the ADL agents infiltrated and then got all racist in order to make the JBS look racist. | ||
| Again, the ADL... | ||
| Took over the JBS in order to make them an anti-Semitic organization. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And somehow planted Ravilo P. Oliver as one of the founding members. | ||
| All there. | ||
| Very believable. | ||
| It's a brilliant scheme. | ||
| But that is only the surface of what the purpose this serves is. | ||
| And the reason that Alex is bringing it back up. | ||
| And seems to be very interested in making this a focus of his rhetoric and coverage. | ||
| And that is that... | ||
| It also now applies to every other racist group that he's super cool with. | ||
| All of these groups that are carrying out exercises and are definitely threats to commit domestic violence and terrorism. | ||
| People like the Patriot Front. | ||
| Are now just proven, it's been declassified, that the ADL just infiltrated the Patriot Front and did all this Nazi stuff in order to create the appearance that they're actually a Nazi group. | ||
| Really, they just want, you know, people to have nice families. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, I understand the point here. | ||
| Do you? | ||
| I think what I'm struggling with is this. | ||
| Although it does at the same time seem inevitable. | ||
| It appears that far-right Nazi organizations now claim that the Jews run everything so much to the point they include themselves. | ||
| Well, I don't think that the Nazi organizations themselves would say that. | ||
| But people providing cover for them may do that. | ||
| And I think it would be an interesting question to ask if these Nazi organizations would resent that. | ||
| Or if they appreciate the cover that people like Alex would provide them by creating these narratives. | ||
| I feel like I would... | ||
| I feel like... | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| Sure, you can have your... | ||
| The cause is greater for Nazidom. | ||
| We'll accept the abuse in order to then become successful. | ||
| But I feel like you go to Nazidom because you can't accept the abuse in the first place. | ||
| So you're more likely to be resentful. | ||
| I feel like the sort of opponent I would more like to be up against would be the person who resented Alex for it. | ||
| Because that person feels more ideological than opportunistic. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They've got something. | ||
| I don't like them. | ||
| I don't want to say they've got something. | ||
| I don't want to say it either. | ||
| I don't know why I felt the need to. | ||
| So Alex is going to play some clips of Robert Welch's speech. | ||
| I'm going to air excerpts of an hour-long speech he gave in 1958 here today, but here's just a few minutes out. | ||
| A part of that plan, of course, is to induce the gradual surrender of American sovereignty, piece by piece and step by step, to various international organizations. | ||
| Of which the United Nations is the outstanding but far from the only example. | ||
| Man. | ||
| So this is Alex's Memorial Day show, and he seems to be starting out suggesting that Robert Welsh is someone to celebrate on that holiday. | ||
| This should be deeply offensive to the veterans and enlisted persons in Alex's audience, since Memorial Day is about honoring soldiers who died in service. | ||
| Robert Welsh never served the country, and he died peacefully at age 85. Nothing about his life in any way qualifies him to be a figure to take time out for and celebrate on Memorial Day. | ||
| And even if it's true that Alex just wants to talk about the info- No, no. | ||
| Alex might include, like... | ||
| Timothy McVeigh. | ||
| It does feel like Timothy McVeigh is at the top of that list, right? | ||
| Am I crazy for thinking? | ||
| My first thought was like, oh, well, he's thinking of Timothy McVeigh. | ||
| But then again, Alex thinks that Timothy McVeigh was sheep-dipped and he was set up. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So he can't be eligible for the Infowar. | ||
| See, this is very confusing. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Oh, what tangled webs we weave, my friend. | ||
| So you might think that Alex listened to this Robert Welch speech and thought it was so powerful. | ||
| So he decided, I'm going to select a clip here, but you'd be wrong. | ||
| There's a watermark. | ||
| It's a super cool meme guy, clearly. | ||
| This account posted the small excerpt of Welch's speech on Twitter on May 26th. | ||
| Also, not for nothing, this account also tweeted out a video with the caption, Then there's an American flag emoji. | ||
| Veterans Day is in November. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Anyway, this account is just a constant barrage of right-wing culture war-type whining about things like how corporations are too woke because they celebrate pride, and they also seem to be really mad about Black Lives Matter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also a small point, this speech wasn't from 1958. | ||
| It's a recording from 1974, but the title on the YouTube video that I'm Meme Zero is taking this from, the title is, quote, Robert Welch Speech, parentheses, Greatest Speech in America, 1950. | ||
| 258. | ||
| These people haven't even watched the source material they're pulling this from or know anything about the subject. | ||
| The dead giveaways should be one, the actual speech is titled 15 Years Ago, referring to the founding of the John Birch Society being 15 years in the past in 1958. | ||
| And this is also a speech that Welch originally gave in 1973, so that's why it's 15 years as opposed to 16. So if I understand correctly, the speech we are listening to, Robert Welch gave in 1973. | ||
| Initially, but the recording is from 74. Right. | ||
| And so the speech is in regards to events that happened in 1958. | ||
| Yes, and it's mostly a rehashing of the material that ended up becoming the blue book of the John Birch Society, which was mostly taken from the lecture that he gave at that first meeting when he was recruiting people like Ravilo P. Oliver. | ||
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Right. | |
| And what have you. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So that's what this is. | ||
| And the memes are claiming that it's from 1958. | ||
| The memes are claiming. | ||
| The memes are claiming. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And then Alex is just repeating that because he doesn't know anything about this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The second dead giveaway should be that the MC for this event is John McManus, who's credited as the Director of Public Relations. | ||
| McManus would go on to be the president of the John Birch Society, but he didn't even join until 1966 and wasn't given the title of the head PR guy until 1973. | ||
| I may be telling... | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| Robert Welch speech outside of the fact that he saw it posted on a dumbass meme Twitter account. | ||
| That Welch speech is actually about an hour and 45 minutes long, not an hour long. | ||
| And like I said, it's more or less challenging. | ||
| just a verbal version of the blue book. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Welch speaks for a very long time and is very boring, but he is introduced to stage by another one of the founding members of the John Birch Society, one of the other people there who was there at that first... | |
| No, Fred Koch was another of the founding members. | ||
| But this is William J. Grady, who was the owner of Grady Foundries Incorporated, one of the largest steel and iron producers in the country at the time. | ||
| In addition to that, as is put in his obituary from the New York Times, from 1956 to 1961, he was a top official at J.I. Case Company, a manufacturer of farm equipment. | ||
| What? | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| J.I. Case has a long history of ending up in strikes. | ||
| They had a then record-setting 440-day strike that ended in 1947. | ||
| Before that, they had a 108-day strike in 1937. | ||
| Reading over how that was covered in the New York Times is really interesting and definitely gives you quite a sense that maybe the Times wasn't so behind organized labor. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| Quote, the first of the 1,800 production workers thrown into idleness when the picketing forced the closing of the farm machinery manufacturing plants last October will return to work tomorrow. | ||
| We're forced into idleness. | ||
| Wow, wow, guys. | ||
| You're showing a little bit. | ||
| You're showing. | ||
| Just a little. | ||
| That's an article, by the way, not an editorial in the Times. | ||
| I don't want to know what the Wall Street Journal's board wanted to say about that one. | ||
| J.I. Case had a long history with strikers, and it was well known that their leadership was very hostile toward unions and collective bargaining as a whole. | ||
| And Grady Foundries was no different. | ||
| William Grady hated the idea of the needs and rights of workers getting in the way of his ability to make money, so it should be no surprise that in 1952 he became the president of the National Association of Manufacturers, a lobbying group that was very focused on fighting against the power of unions and workers' rights. | ||
| The National Association of Manufacturers was the recruiting pool that Robert Welsh picked the first members of the John Birch Society from, as Welsh himself was on their board. | ||
| At least half of the founding members were in high-level positions with the National Association of Manufacturers, and there was a targeted effort on Welsh's part to find new members for the JBS from within the National Association of Manufacturers. | ||
| I go down this road a little bit because it's important to understand that what motivated a lot of the anti-communist fervor in the people who inspired much of Alex's worldview is that they hated paying workers fair wages, and they didn't want dumb things like safety precautions to cut into their profits. | ||
| There's obviously a bit... | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I would argue that most of the trappings around it are trappings, because the fundamental thing is, I want to make as much money as I possibly can. | ||
| And it's very difficult when you look at the actual, like, the details of who was involved and how they organized and all this stuff. | ||
| It's tough to get away from that stuff. | ||
| Also, Alex just plays a little small clip from this speech, but I think that maybe him and iMemeZero should wrestle with some of the other stuff in this speech, like this part where Welch... | ||
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. | |
| You have a clip from it that you can play? | ||
| How can you do that? | ||
| What, did you find it somewhere? | ||
| Did somebody have it that wasn't on a meme account, Dan? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, if the danger from the communist conspiracy were all we had to worry about, it would be enough. | ||
| But in my opinion, the first great basic weakness of the United States, and hence its susceptibility to the disease of collectivism, is simply the age of the Western European civilization. | ||
| Some of you will already have recognized, in fact, that I am drawing a corollary to the conclusions usually connected with the name of Oswald Spengler. | ||
| Spengler's theory is absolutely fatal to the acceptance of socialism or any form of collectivism as a forward step or as a form of progress in man's sociological arrangements. | ||
| For in Spengler's view, collectivism is a disease of society, concomitant with decay and remarkably similar to cancer in the individual. | ||
| Oswald Spengler died in 1935, and he is what you might call a Nazi. | ||
| That is to say that he supported Hitler and the National Socialists, but felt that their focus on pure German people wouldn't be appealing enough to other potential allies. | ||
| He's like a woke Nazi, you might say. | ||
| He wasn't necessarily an anti-Semite, but he was a scholarly voice who helped champion the ideas that brought Hitler and the Nazis into power. | ||
| He was also a really fucked up dude. | ||
| A 1939 article about him in the National Journal of Literature and Discussion said, Spengler assailed modern medicine for interfering with natural selection and for accelerating racial decay. | ||
| A strong race he defined as one with an inexhaustible birth rate, compensating for severe selection process, which is provided by the resistances to living represented by misfortune, sickness, and war. | ||
| The test of race for him was the speed of reproduction. | ||
| So yeah, he hated medicine because he wanted everybody just to like, yeah, you got sick because you're weak. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Yeah, eugenicists are usually not cool guys. | ||
| Did you ever notice that? | ||
| Yeah, he seems to suck. | ||
| Spengler's most famous work is undoubtedly The Decline of the West, which is a bit of what Welch is pulling from here. | ||
| It's essentially a call for the rise of new Caesar-like dictators. | ||
| That's the way that you get rid of this cancer of collectivism. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he might as well have been writing Leviathan all over again. | ||
| That book is also where the expression blood and soil comes from, so that's fun. | ||
| Hooray! | ||
| I don't know if iMemeZero wants to talk about this. | ||
| I mean, I know they like it, but I don't think they want to own it. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| So, a lot of this episode, I gotta say, is Alex talking about how much people like him. | ||
| Which is sad as he sits on a laptop. | ||
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He's hiding in a hotel room! | |
| Let me just kind of sit back and say something here that's really important before I had all the big news. | ||
| And it's huge. | ||
| A couple weeks ago, I was on TV on the program of Steve Bannon, and he asked me, are we winning? | ||
| And I said, well... | ||
| All I can use is a gauge of what I see out in the public. | ||
| I'm a well-known person. | ||
| The average person is not well-known, so they don't really get to have that experience of what the feedback is. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I've heard talks about this a hundred times. | ||
| The listeners don't need me to repeat it, but basically I talked about the fact that I've got 95% love over the years, but still, you know, I would get 5% hate, and when you're walking down the street, that's still quite a bit. | ||
| So for every 90, People, 95 people, I shook their hands. | ||
| I would run into four or five, said, you're a Russian agent, I hope you die, or something like that. | ||
| Yeah, you understand 5%. | ||
| Coffee on me, tea on me, slap me in the back of the head. | ||
| A lot of it has been caught on video. | ||
| People know what happens to prominent populists in America, firsters and conservatives. | ||
| And then I talked about how it's been like eight, nine months since that's happened one time. | ||
| By the way, it did happen finally last week. | ||
| The guy from the office said, how dare you show your face in public? | ||
| You've got to be ashamed of yourself. | ||
| And I started laughing at him. | ||
| Well, Madeleine Albright said that she killed 500,000 kids with sanctions and would do it again on 60 Minutes. | ||
| Is that good? | ||
| Is that good? | ||
| Did I kill any kids? | ||
| Great conversation. | ||
| All I get is love now. | ||
| And I noticed they had a bunch of publications. | ||
| Look how crazy Jones is. | ||
| No one loves him. | ||
| Everybody hates him. | ||
| That's like Tokyo Rose. | ||
| Broadcasting the American sailors and Marines when we were right off the coast of Japan and had already bombed them in the Stone Age, weeks before we dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, saying the Americans are defeated, America's on fire, no one cares about you, it's all over, you've lost the war. | ||
| Yeah, so we've documented over the years Alex constantly saying that, oh, now everyone loves me. | ||
| It used to be that everyone was mean to me, but now they're all so nice to me. | ||
| Over different periods of time, he just constantly tells the story in order to provide morale for the troops, as it were, in his audience. | ||
| A little bit like Tokyo Rose. | ||
| I guess there was like... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe it was a Media Matters article or something. | ||
| But yeah, someone posted a video of that that went around and people were making fun of it. | ||
| And it's like, well, he says this all the time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But people don't realize that he says this all the time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so seeing it with fresh eyes was kind of funny, I guess, for people. | ||
| I suppose. | ||
| And so now Alex is using this as a chance for him to complain about how people actually do love him. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
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People do. | |
| Everybody needs to know the cycle. | ||
| We learned about the water cycle when I was in elementary school, and I think that's when we should have learned about the bullshit cycle, too. | ||
| Where it's like, oh, this guy says bullshit, and people are all like, hey, look at how stupid that bullshit is! | ||
| And then that gets more attention, and that guy's like, my bullshit's not stupid, and then people are like, ah, there's so much bullshit! | ||
| That's it. | ||
| And it's a really fun game because Alex is talking about stuff that didn't happen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then these people are saying, ha ha ha, this didn't happen. | ||
| And he's saying, it did happen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes, that is the level of discourse that we have risen to. | ||
| It's pretty fun. | ||
| No, people do like me, thank you very much. | ||
| It's pretty fun because he ends up just kind of obsessing about this. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So what I'm going to do, just for the left, because I realize how much they hate this. | ||
| Oh, we hate it. | ||
| I'm going to start taking film crews out into downtown Austin and the University of Texas, the most liberal place. | ||
| And I'm going to, I mean, all I got to do at the hotel I'm at is just walk and sit there in the lobby for two minutes. | ||
| And more than half the people that come through come over and are blisters. | ||
| I can't buy myself a drink. | ||
| I can't buy myself dinner on vacation with my family. | ||
| Can't leave this hotel room. | ||
| It is an indicator of how awake people have gotten and how they're pissed off at the system. | ||
| And so the left wants you to feel alone and not know how popular populism is and America First is. | ||
| So just for them, and I've thought about how important this is, I'm going to go out and I'm going to do live feeds. | ||
| I'm just going to edit it in, people that like me, because it will be very entertaining. | ||
| The haters are even better to illustrate. | ||
| I'm sure we'll get some of those. | ||
| Yeah, a big crowd, you know, forms. | ||
| There'll be some. | ||
| But once that happens, I'll do an hour live feed, say on 6th Street. | ||
| There'll be four or five people that hate me. | ||
| There'll be a couple hundred that love me. | ||
| And you watch. | ||
| The mainstream media will cut out the haters and put that out. | ||
| But that's okay. | ||
| That's why they're dead. | ||
| That's why they're politically obsolete. | ||
| Because everybody knows they play those type of games. | ||
| So we'll put out the raw feed and live stream it, and then we'll watch the media go and deceive and say everybody hates me. | ||
| You'll be able to see the raw feed where it's 99% love. | ||
| And so that's what I'm getting at here is the love is way more intense than it's ever been. | ||
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I mean, it's the same story over and over again. | |
| Convincing. | ||
| Might have heard a drink there. | ||
| And shook my hand and said, we appreciate you. | ||
| We know you're right about the New World Order. | ||
| What are we going to do? | ||
| That's half the restaurant. | ||
| He came to my table. | ||
| Half of them. | ||
| Yeah, you might heard a sloshing there. | ||
| And mysteriously, at this point, someone cut away from his laptop feed. | ||
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Right there? | |
| Yeah, and there's just some B-roll of Alex high-fiving people at a Trump rally five years ago. | ||
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Huh. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Strange. | ||
| I think whenever a narcissist is trapped in a hotel room still trying to lie about themselves, it's pretty funny. | ||
| It is. | ||
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It's pretty funny. | |
| Especially because he's sitting here and he's saying, all right, here's what I'm going to do. | ||
| I'm going to illustrate how much people love me by going down to 6th Street. | ||
| I'm going to just do the raw feed. | ||
| I'm going to do the raw feed. | ||
| Not the media will only cut out and show you the bad stuff. | ||
| That's what they'll do. | ||
| He's making up stories about a fake thing he hasn't done and isn't going to do. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And what the media's gonna do about it. | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| He's doing that, and he's just giving himself a very unconvincing, no, tons of people love me. | ||
| People love me, and then... | ||
| Some long pauses, but it's good. | ||
| People love me. | ||
| You do start to realize the difference between recording in a studio and talking into a laptop and how much a laptop is similar to a mirror. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Is that like talking into a fucking mirror? | ||
| You just look right into yourself and you feel bad. | ||
| People love me. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| So Rogan sent Alex a video. | ||
| That's about all you need to know. | ||
| You know things are viral. | ||
| When two separate big podcasters in the last 12 hours have sent me the same video. | ||
| And I was intending to air this video today, and I'm going to air it because it's dead on, and I'm going to air it in its entirety. | ||
| So I've been sent this last night, and then literally five minutes ago, the number one podcaster in the world said, holy bleep, this video is insane. | ||
| Family show. | ||
| I said yes. | ||
| Actually, we just planned to air that today. | ||
| And what is the video? | ||
| Joe sent me the Kim.com tweet. | ||
| This is the most important video you will watch this year. | ||
| Millions were killed with COVID-19 for profit. | ||
| COVID-19 was an act of biological warfare subsided on the human race. | ||
| It was a financial heist. | ||
| Nature was hijacked. | ||
| Science was hijacked. | ||
| This is from the recent International COVID Summit at the EU, mostly from the European Parliament. | ||
| So far, 766 million COVID infections have been recorded. | ||
| And the breakdown here is absolutely critical. | ||
| And we're going to be getting to that coming up here on this special Memorial Day broadcast. | ||
| We're not just going to remember the troops that were killed fighting this nation. | ||
| We should now know the American people, people of the world, are the victims of a biological... | ||
| Warfare attack. | ||
| Really stretching the Memorial Day theme here. | ||
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Yikes! | |
| So yeah, one of the things that's fun about this episode is that Alex introduces a lot of these topics and talks shit about them, and then whenever he leaves, Owen... | ||
| Plays these things, and it's kind of left with the heavy lifting. | ||
| So what he's talking about here that Kim.com tweeted about that Joe sent him was there's a clip about a guy ranting about how COVID's a bioweapon. | ||
| He's sitting in front of an EU flag, apparently at a meeting of the EU Parliament. | ||
| Oh, for God's sake. | ||
| This guy's a COVID conspiracy hotshot. | ||
| Pun intended. | ||
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Nice. | |
| Named Dr. David Martin, and he's trying to bring back the bow tie look, which isn't going great. | ||
| Not gonna happen. | ||
| He spends the first six minutes of the clip talking about how we've known about coronaviruses for decades, which I found uninteresting, but he was presenting as if it's mind-blowing information. | ||
| Anyway, this was from an event called the International COVID Summit 3, which has the air of a real serious event, but it's actually just a propaganda performance. | ||
| Did Jim Gunn direct that one too? | ||
| No. | ||
| Robert Malone, I believe. | ||
| It was a hot lineup of COVID weirdos. | ||
| Like I mentioned, Robert Malone, this David Martin, Pierre Corey, and a bunch of international folks who we haven't necessarily met in our coverage but are very similar to the folks we have. | ||
| The International COVID Summit was apparently hosted by certain members of the European Parliament, but they're referred to as, quote, non-attached members of the Parliament, which means that there are individuals in the Parliament who are not part of any party that has any real sway. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're kind of rogue agents within, ineffectual. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| We're kind of assholes who suddenly got in there, and here we are. | ||
| They're people who are part of parties with one or two members in the Parliament, and therefore they don't have any actual voting power. | ||
| As the name might suggest, this was the third such summit. | ||
| That this collection of COVID conspiracists have held and it's not fair to say that it was... | ||
| In front of the full parliament? | ||
| I don't think it was. | ||
| Like, a couple of powerless members of the parliament hosted it, but the actual EU... | ||
| I'm not sure if it was a full assembly for this masturbatory-ass event. | ||
| I would say that a lot of the speeches that you might see on C-SPAN, whenever they show the senator speaking directly and they don't show the crowd because the crowd is three other senators and everybody else is gone. | ||
| And they're passing the Fed. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Yeah, that's how it works. | ||
| Wayne. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I looked over the... | ||
| They had a veterinarian there from the Netherlands arguing the vaccines were killing people. | ||
| They had a self-help coach from Canada complaining about the media. | ||
| And they had a doctor named Ryan Cole who's about to lose his license. | ||
| Cole is an interesting case because he was very happy to profit from COVID early on as he ran a little lab in Garden City, Idaho, which he presented to Medicaid as, quote, using fully automated high-volume systems that he could use to run tests. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| The problem is that he wasn't doing that. | ||
| That's a trouble. | ||
| And they couldn't handle the... | ||
| Oh, that's a surprise. | ||
| A former molecular diagnostics supervisor there told the Idaho Capital Sun, quote, it was volume over safety and accuracy. | ||
| Cole Diagnostics was a small lab at the beginning of 2020 and took on more than what Dr. Cole promised and said that it could do that summer. | ||
| All in all, Cole was given over more than a million dollars in government funds specifically for COVID-related activity. | ||
| He was more than happy to use the pandemic to get a ton of free money early on, but now the grift's kind of moved on and now we just gotta be like, meh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A woman named Andrea Wynn told the paper that the lab took shortcuts when doing COVID testing. | ||
| Given Dr. Cole's public statements downplaying the severity of the virus, it makes sense that he was permissive of a lowered standard of testing. | ||
| He either did not believe or refused to acknowledge that bad results were of potentially high consequence to his patients and the public. | ||
| She went on to say, We were told to run specimens where we knew the integrity had been compromised, certainly. | ||
| The paper spoke to two other former employees and reported this. | ||
| Quote, they noticed coal pouring liquid into dried out vials and running the tests with that reconstituted sample. | ||
| Like it's a bar. | ||
| Like he's just running it on the thing and then he's pouring another drink in there. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Diluting an already compromised sample could have caused people with the virus to get false negative results. | ||
| He's now arguing that COVID vaccines cause cancer, which is what he was speaking about at that summit. | ||
| He claims that he'd seen a big increase in cancer at his lab, which is strange because he's not supposed to be the kind of doctor that diagnoses patients. | ||
| Like, he's a pathologist with a lab. | ||
| He hasn't produced evidence of his claims about increased cancer, but he has apparently misdiagnosed at least two people as having cancer, and that's led to a complaint being raised to the Washington Medical Commission to, quote, investigate whether Cole has intentionally or subconsciously misread cancer tests while making false claims about COVID-19 vaccines and cancer. | ||
| Also, one of the people he allegedly misdiagnosed is suing him after she needlessly got a hysterectomy because of his misdiagnosis. | ||
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Wow. | |
| This guy sucks. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Who knows what kind of damage this guy has directly caused. | ||
| And now he's an expert speaking at this dumb, dumb COVID conspiracy summit. | ||
| These people are monsters, and I don't really give a fuck about this guy. | ||
| David Martin with his stupid bow tie talking about just... | ||
| Anti-COVID conspiracy talking points. | ||
| Who cares if he's in front of an EU flag? | ||
| Just leaving behind a fucking swath of destruction everywhere they fucking go, acting as though they're helping people. | ||
| And it is just so maddening. | ||
| It's maddening because they're always out of reach. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| And I mean, metaphorical reach, too. | ||
| It's like there's no way to get them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, this accepting government money to do tests you don't have the capacity to do and doing a bad job on this at the risk of... | ||
| I mean, if you're providing false negative tests for a ton of people, especially this lab deals with... | ||
| Elderly patients, people in assisted living. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Who knows how many lives you're putting directly at risk because of your desire to get these government grants. | ||
| It's exactly what they're accusing doctors of doing, killing patients for COVID money. | ||
| It is. | ||
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It is. | |
| It really literally is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's even more absurd just because, I mean, ostensibly, this guy doesn't believe that COVID is that big of a problem or is a problem. | ||
| You can't have him. | ||
| Him running a lab testing for a virus that he doesn't believe is real! | ||
| Well, maybe we didn't know that then. | ||
| But also, it calls to mind also a lot of the folks who, you know, were willing to accept, you know, COVID stimulus money for their companies and stuff, get these government loans. | ||
| Oh, gotta. | ||
| And then also are turning around and be like, COVID's not real. | ||
| It's not real at all, but I mean, what are you, not going to take free money? | ||
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You're handing out money. | |
| Yeah, you're not going to take money? | ||
| What, are you crazy? | ||
| Yeah, it's, you know, scams evolve. | ||
| Loving money is like the primary thing we do, okay? | ||
| That's our deal. | ||
| So, Alex gets back to talking about the JBS thing. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And lies some more about that. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| But also, I think he makes a bit of an accidental confession at the end of this. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I want to play excerpts of a powerful 1958 speech by Robert Wells, founder of the Converse Society. | ||
| 1974. | ||
| because it just came out that the CIA and the FBI working with the ADL, criminally targeted the organization, who was 100% dead on everything they said has come true. | ||
| People think Alex Jones was right. | ||
| This group absolutely scared the hell out of the globalists because they were populist, they were pro-American, they were anti-communist, they were not racist, and that was the prototype the ADL went after. | ||
| They declassified it two weeks ago that the ADL... | ||
| Knew they were innocent, knew they were good, and set them up, and infiltrated members in who didn't go to press conferences and say racist things so they could attribute it to the John Burser side. | ||
| Sounds right. | ||
| Which we know goes on. | ||
| We know some probably law center, bare minimum, had people inside the office. | ||
| And they would run around saying, N-word, N-word, N-word. | ||
| And people would say, we're going to fire him. | ||
| He said that again. | ||
| And they would quit. | ||
| And then they were reporting. | ||
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What a great scam. | |
| Wow. | ||
| That's a plan. | ||
| Here's our plan, guys. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We've got this evil organization run by extremely wealthy people with a nigh-infinite amount of power. | ||
| What we're going to do is we're going to go in. | ||
| We're going to get hired. | ||
| All right? | ||
| So everybody, you've got to make sure you have some good references. | ||
| Derek, not you. | ||
| We're going to get hired. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| We're going to go in there. | ||
| We're going to shout racist things. | ||
| And then whenever they threaten to fire us, we'll quit. | ||
| And then we'll claim to other people that they're racist. | ||
| Solved it! | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, Alex is making stuff up about this non-declassified thing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But, you see, I don't know if you understood what he was saying. | ||
| He was saying at InfoWars, people were plants. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| I didn't hear him say that at InfoWars. | ||
| He was doing that at InfoWars. | ||
| That's what he was referring to. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He was saying that they had plants, like the Southern Poverty Law Center had people at his office who were running around screaming the N-word, and then... | ||
| What? | ||
| Than when he threatened to fire them for screaming. | ||
| They quit. | ||
| Which is... | ||
| I don't think you threaten to fire somebody. | ||
| Who are you talking about, Alex? | ||
| I think you just fire them. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you're running around throwing out the N-word, you're just fired. | ||
| I think Alex is just trying to come up with defenses for accusations and things that people have revealed about the racist workspace that he fosters. | ||
| Fosters and cultivates. | ||
| And he accidentally is kind of admitting to that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I would say so. | ||
| But look, man, people like him. | ||
| You know, people like him. | ||
| When you look at a laptop, it's kind of like a mirror. | ||
| And people like Alex. | ||
| And understand that we are the modern warriors in the information war that are taking these globalists on, and they're losing the fight with people of humanity. | ||
| The truth's coming out. | ||
| That's why I was telling the story last segment. | ||
| About Alex Jones being a microcosm or a bellwether, a gauge, a sensor, so we can know where the public really stands. | ||
| And having 99 to 1 positive interactions. | ||
| I thought it was 95. I'd have to say 200 to 1 positive interactions. | ||
| 300 to 1. It was 95 to 5. I probably shook 1,000 hands, 2,000 hands in the last eight, nine months. | ||
| The number keeps going up. | ||
| I've had one person come up and confront me. | ||
| One person. | ||
| And before it was happening, every couple days, I went to the grocery store, it was going to happen. | ||
| Two, three years ago, I went to the grocery store, shake 20 hands, somebody walks over, F you Russian agent, or F you KKK member. | ||
| And you just laugh at it because they're such idiots. | ||
| But it's just not really happening anymore. | ||
| And the love is more intense. | ||
| So I talked about with Steve Bannon being in a little Italian restaurant with my wife and with a musician, a friend of ours. | ||
| Almost everybody came over that was in the restaurant, and then when I went out, I ran into three different groups of people, and all three groups were listeners. | ||
| Black lady, black couple, Hispanic couple. | ||
| Totally believe these are real. | ||
| Going to the parking garage, was a listener. | ||
| That really triggered a bunch of leftist publications saying, Jones is insane, people don't like him, look, he's making it up, people like him. | ||
| I mean, just think about that. | ||
| They want you to think you're alone. | ||
| They want you to think they're winning. | ||
| They're not winning. | ||
| Yeah, Alex Jones claims black, white, Hispanic, old, young. | ||
| Shower him with praise in restaurants. | ||
| Well, that's it. | ||
| I realize how much they hate this. | ||
| So, I'm going to, you know what I could do? | ||
| I could wear a hidden camera. | ||
| I could wear a hidden camera and go into a restaurant. | ||
| Ooh, that'd be even better. | ||
| Undercover investigation. | ||
| So, here's what's going to happen for the left. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| You control culture and you're the cool ones. | ||
| Everybody loves you. | ||
| I'm going to flood the zone with Infowars love. | ||
| How's that sound? | ||
| But see, they already know that. | ||
| Their PSYOP doesn't work on me. | ||
| They want to make you ashamed of caring about your family or being a Christian or being this drag queen pedo time. | ||
| But that doesn't work anymore as well. | ||
| They don't have that power over you anymore, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| So now what are they doing? | ||
| Thanks for the whole show on this. | ||
| You are! | ||
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You are! | |
| Yes, this has no power over me, and now I'm going to spend most of my time whining about it and creating ways to keep this conversation going. | ||
| There should be a red light or something that's just like the, are you listening to yourself light? | ||
| Everybody should have something available to themselves where they stop, they're like, let's play that back for you to listen to, and then you hear it and you go, you're right. | ||
| I feel bad about that. | ||
| Now here's what I would love to happen. | ||
| Alex is in the middle of one of these rants about how much people love him. | ||
| He goes to everywhere the restaurants people love him with love. | ||
| So he's sitting there on this laptop in the middle of it. | ||
| Then there's a knock. | ||
| Housekeeping. | ||
| Housekeeping. | ||
| Housekeeping comes in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they're like, oh my god, Alec Jones. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Love you so much. | ||
| Have to. | ||
| And it's Rob Dew in a wig. | ||
| I would love that so much. | ||
|
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No, no, no. | |
| But see, that's where you go. | ||
| That's pretty good. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Now we start getting more people showing up knocking on the door. | ||
| But they're all robbed you. | ||
| But what excuses do you have? | ||
| Like food? | ||
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Room service? | |
| You've definitely got food. | ||
| Housekeeping. | ||
| You've got housekeeping. | ||
| You've got a plumber guy. | ||
| You've got a plumber. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| There's an air conditioning problem. | ||
| These are a little bit of a stretch. | ||
| Ooh, how about... | ||
| Pull the fire alarm. | ||
| Alex has done that in the past. | ||
| Now, here's one idea. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Manager comes because someone snitched him out for using the room for commercial purposes. | ||
| Ooh, okay. | ||
| But then he's like, but you're so great, I'm gonna let it slide. | ||
| You're so great, I'm gonna let it slide. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It's Rob Du with a fake mustache. | ||
| It's gotta be. | ||
| It's gotta be all Rob Du playing a straight Mr. Bean character. | ||
| There is no cost to doing this. | ||
| And I feel like... | ||
| The next phase for Alex should really be trying to be creative. | ||
| Like, that would be fucking hilarious. | ||
| You've got nothing to lose! | ||
| It wouldn't undercut his point that everybody comes up to him. | ||
| It would only really make it seem like he actually isn't offended or hurt by people mocking the idea people like again. | ||
| It would take the piss out of a lot of the criticisms. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And I cannot lie. | ||
| Well, first of all, I don't think they could pull it off. | ||
| They're not good enough at doing bits, and they're not funny. | ||
| They're terrible. | ||
| They can't commit to characters. | ||
| If they were able to make it feel slightly organic and not call out that it's Rob Do in a wig over and over again, I would legitimately find that hilarious. | ||
| I think so, too. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I'd be watching it, and I'd be like, this is the best Edward Wars has ever done. | ||
| And that's because it would be a 25-year-old... | ||
| Pay off. | ||
| That's the joke about it, is that it would have taken its 25 years of setup to get to that perfect punchline. | ||
| But the other thing, too, is that Alex constantly talks about how he likes to engage in satire. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| That would be satirical. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That would be satirizing the idea that... | ||
| I tell you this right now. | ||
| They never even thought of that. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| Never even considered it. | ||
| Meanwhile, it's the first thing. | ||
| First thing. | ||
| I gotta get in the writer's room. | ||
| I mean, it's absurd! | ||
| It's absurd how much better a show we could make. | ||
| Well, that's what happens when you're driven by this resentment, aggrievement, and hate. | ||
| And it's not something where you're like, what can I do to make a good show? | ||
| And it's unfortunate. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| So Alex is talking about how people call him a Russian agent and all this stuff. | ||
| And he only knows one Russian. | ||
| I know one of the Russians he knows. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| And so they're just moving on from seven years of saying we're all Russian agents with zero evidence. | ||
| I mean, I watched House Armed Services Committee hearings five years ago where the congressman goes, give me one example of a Russian disinfo agent. | ||
| Well, Infowars and Alex Jones comes to mind. | ||
| He's Russian disinfo. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Never been to Russia? | ||
| Don't speak Russian? | ||
| No one Russian was an Army veteran and a patriot that... | ||
| That's like call screening for us. | ||
| So I do know one Russian. | ||
| One Russian does work for us. | ||
| Doesn't run anything, but I run everything. | ||
| But the point is, I do know a Russian. | ||
| So that's that. | ||
| There's millions of them around the world. | ||
| Daria is going to be pissed to learn that she's been demoted to call screener. | ||
| And she doesn't run anything. | ||
| She doesn't run anything. | ||
| Whenever she is able to take the fall for something, she seems to have quite a bit of power. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Oh, yes. | ||
| She's deeply involved in all sorts of organizational aspects. | ||
| Executive producing and what have you. | ||
| But no, no, no. | ||
| She's a call screener. | ||
| I mean, frankly, she's your corporate representative at the very least. | ||
| And the reason that I think that's her is because Alex always describes her as a veteran. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so, like, that makes sense that it would be her. | ||
| Unless there are two Russian veterans who work at InfoWars. | ||
| One, a call screener. | ||
| One, Daria. | ||
| In which case. | ||
| Why are you hiding the other one? | ||
| Right. | ||
| What do you have to hide? | ||
| Also, I've seen, I've watched the Americans. | ||
| Everybody's secretly a Russian agent. | ||
| You know, we all know so many Russian agents. | ||
| See, what happened was Russia infiltrated the United States and kicked out all Americans and we're actually all Russians. | ||
| And we moved in to do the exact same thing. | ||
| It's like the ADL in the John Birch Society. | ||
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Okay. | |
| That's a smart move. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| I was lost in thought about a TV show that I've never seen. | ||
| And I don't know why. | ||
| And I think it was because I was like, I've never seen The Americans. | ||
| And then I started thinking about other shows that I haven't seen. | ||
| I started thinking about Battlestar Galactica. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
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I don't know why. | |
| Of course. | ||
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Why wouldn't you think about Battlestar Galactica? | |
| Edward James Olmos, come on. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Edward James Olmos is fire. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| Do they get away from the Cylons at the end? | ||
| No. | ||
| They are the Cylons. | ||
| We are the Cylons. | ||
| What? | ||
| I forgot. | ||
| No, because at the end, they show up at Earth. | ||
| Yeah, but I think that's the point. | ||
| I think we are, I honestly don't know this, because I don't know if I've seen the show. | ||
| Now you're making me feel like maybe I have? | ||
| I've seen like one or two episodes, and I'm aware that at the end, they show up at Earth. | ||
| I'm pretty sure there's a guy named Balthazar, right? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I think so. | ||
| I do know that Edward James Olmos is in it. | ||
| Oh, I'll never forget an Olmos. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My buddy Swearingen watched all of them. | ||
| Al Swearingen? | ||
| No. | ||
| Although that joke was made. | ||
| He was watching that while we lived together. | ||
| And so I got a little bit by, like, osmosis. | ||
| But I never watched it. | ||
| Anyway, don't know why I was thinking about that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So yeah, look, woke stuff. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| All around. | ||
| Woke mind virus. | ||
| Woke is a problem for people. | ||
| Can we clearly define it yet? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| You know. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| See, that's the problem with a clear definition. | ||
| I believe that the most accurate one so far is, eh, you know. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| You know, if you know, you know. | ||
| It's the Supreme Court definition of pornography. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| You know when you see it. | ||
| You know wokeness when you see it. | ||
| You feel woke in your bones. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So, all these companies that are going woke, they're going broke. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| And when I see understanding of how this is psychological warfare and people get that, once you're aware of the psychological warfare... | ||
| You've got the 35,000-foot view. | ||
| It's very, very hard to control you. | ||
| In fact, the propaganda is the opposite. | ||
| It pisses you off. | ||
| It motivates you. | ||
| It spurs you to stand up. | ||
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So here's an example of this. | |
| And I describe this as kamikazes. | ||
| You see Anheuser-Busch lose now $10 billion and now it's 35% of their market. | ||
| And they predict in six months it'll be 60% of their market. | ||
| They destroyed the number one beer company in the world. | ||
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Destroyed. | |
| They had to spend tens of billions of dollars in advertising to get to that point. | ||
| They had to be a hundred-plus-year-old company. | ||
| Gone. | ||
| Just gone. | ||
| Gone. | ||
| Like that. | ||
| Wiped out. | ||
| Because the majority of people don't want to teach pedophilia to children. | ||
| Ah, that's why. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So it is fair enough to say that Anheuser-Busch InBev stock is down about $10 a share in the past month from the mid-60s to the mid-50s. | ||
| The right-wing tantrum does seem to be having an effect, but this is a case where perspective is necessary. | ||
| For instance, does Alex know what InBev's stock price was in late October of 2022? | ||
| It's around $45 a share, $10 lower than it is now after this drop. | ||
| Ah, they've been devastated! | ||
| Does he know that in 2016 their stock was up at about $125 a share? | ||
| Well, then they've been devastated again! | ||
| Their whining does seem to be making a small dent, but nothing like the impact a bad dividend report would have and has had, or the, like... | ||
| Obviously, COVID lockdowns, bars being closed was a big hit. | ||
| A lot of people have commented on some of the slowed down sales have to do with Budweiser in particular being late to the market on seltzers, which are a large part of retail alcohol shopping now. | ||
| So these are factors that are in the mix. | ||
| But what's going on is just a lull that honestly is probably going to be seen by investors as a pretty good opportunity to get in at a cut rate. | ||
| Because you have to remember that even Alex doesn't realize how many beer companies are owned by this conglomerate. | ||
| It's all good and well to avoid Bud and Bud Light because you're mad that they had a one-off promotional thing with a trans person. | ||
| But in order to really hit InBev, you need to avoid Bex, Corona, Modelo, Michelob, Stella Artois, Bush, Natty Light, King Cobra, Labatt, Goose Island, and tons of other beers that just appear to be small breweries that are actually owned by InBev. | ||
| But your three Floyds is cool. | ||
| They're fine. | ||
| Well, yeah, of course. | ||
| But it's almost like, because of the very capitalist thing that they desire so much... | ||
| A small corporation can gather up so much power, you effectively cannot punish them through these types of campaigns. | ||
| But you can feel like you are. | ||
| You can feel like you're a hero. | ||
| It would be possible, I think, to consciously stop buying all of their brands, but I think it would be really hard. | ||
| And a lot of people are probably buying InBev products without even really even knowing it. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| InBev will be fine. | ||
| The stock price is down a little bit, but it will recover because people love booze. | ||
| Alex, of all people, should understand that and also consider how much penetration they have into foreign markets that aren't swayed by this right-wing culture war bullshit nonsense. | ||
| You're not going to do anything. | ||
| No. | ||
| You are not going to do anything. | ||
| They are also heavily involved in a number of European and Asian beer companies. | ||
| And a lot of that will contribute to... | ||
| They're fine. | ||
| Yeah, you know, it is... | ||
| Why is it? | ||
| And I think... | ||
| I'm not sure if this was true before Citizens United or not, but ever since corporations or people, I feel, became just an accepted part of our life, it is like, why are you guys mad at Anheuser-Busch? | ||
| It is not a real group of people. | ||
| There's like 20 people who make decisions. | ||
| Be mad at 20 people who make decisions. | ||
| You can't be mad at Bud Light. | ||
| Bud Light doesn't exist! | ||
| Yeah, but you can't shoot those people, and Kid Rock can shoot cans of Bud Light. | ||
| Right, but I mean, maybe try talking to those people. | ||
| That's not as fun. | ||
| It's not a good video to post on social media. | ||
| You know, but it's like, oh, Target is hit by allegations that they are homophobic, and it's like, no, no, no, Target doesn't exist. | ||
| Target is not. | ||
| It's just the name. | ||
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Sure. | |
| There's like 20 people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's the board. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Do something about them! | ||
| Well, I mean, I certainly think that it is a way of diffusing responsibility. | ||
| The brand becomes the thing as opposed to the people. | ||
| Seems pretty useful for a small group of people. | ||
| For bad actors and for people who want good outcomes. | ||
| Well, their good outcomes are being billionaires and such. | ||
| No, I mean people who have legitimate social complaints. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| As well as people like Alex. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| In both cases, the people who are the actual decision makers are often insulated from those criticisms by anger at the brand. | ||
| And the consequences for their decisions. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Well... | ||
| Go woke, go broke. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Anyway, Alex talks more about the JBS thing, because Welch is to be celebrated on Memorial Day. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And then he starts talking a little bit about yay. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because he's alone in a hotel room staring at a laptop. | ||
| That's a fair point. | ||
| I also said something that went viral a few weeks ago. | ||
| I was just being honest with speculation. | ||
| When I'm speculating, I say, I don't know, but it feels like this. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And it's come out of the National Front as a government-run organization. | ||
| That's been confirmed. | ||
| It's come out. | ||
| The ADL document seemed out a few weeks ago that they infiltrated right-wing groups and tried to make them racist. | ||
| And when they couldn't, they would just say racist stuff in their name. | ||
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Hey, come on, guys. | |
| Don't you want to hate the Jews? | ||
| The ADL released this. | ||
| They're proud of this. | ||
| That's criminal behavior, in my view. | ||
| The Southern Department of Law Center does it, too. | ||
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And I said... | |
| It felt like when Ye showed up here, because I told him, I don't want to get into a bunch of Jew bashing. | ||
| And I said, I think it would really be good if you reached out and said we should unify all around basic ideas of freedom and everything. | ||
| And in the First Amendment, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Actually, we want to clear that up. | ||
| Yeah, we want to actually do that. | ||
| That's kind of what Ye did. | ||
| He called for everyone to come together, particularly about... | ||
| Loving Hitler. | ||
| If anything, it was an exercise and example of the First Amendment in action. | ||
| It was Ye's appearance on Infowars, and there's literally no consequences from it. | ||
| It's First Amendment, baby. | ||
| It was abhorred speech, but it's protected. | ||
| I know Alex is trying to pretend this was a setup and, like, Ye tricked him, but based on what he's claiming they talked about before the show, it seems like Alex just didn't realize what he was getting into and how hopelessly out of his depth he was with Ye and Nick Fuentes. | ||
| I can understand Alex wanting to save face, but this is... | ||
| It's pathetic. | ||
| And I think, like, if you're describing that as the conversation you had with Ye, where you're like, I don't want to get into a bunch of Jew bashing, I bet Ye doesn't think that's what he's doing. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| From his perspective, he and Alex were on the same page going into it. | ||
| I'm not going to do a bunch of Jew bashing, but I'm going to talk about how much I love Hitler. | ||
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Yep. | |
| It's like, Alex, I understand that it looked really bad, and it was an embarrassing showing. | ||
| But you just gotta eat it. | ||
| You just gotta take that hit. | ||
| Everybody's moved on, too. | ||
| Nobody cares. | ||
| Nobody even cares about yay anymore. | ||
| It all happened, and it was over, and we all moved on like we do with everything now. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it had the potential to be really dangerous, and I think it still is, and I think that there's potential for, as we get closer to the 2024 election thing, more things to flare back up. | ||
| But yeah, it was not as... | ||
| Big of, like, explosion as it appeared it was going to be. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And who knows what the cause of that is. | ||
| Like, what the cause... | ||
| Maybe it seems to me that maybe it's just infighting led to it not being as bad as it could have been. | ||
| It does seem that way. | ||
| Between, like, Milo and Nick and Ali Alexander and Yay. | ||
| Like, all those figures are not people who can coexist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so I think they kind of screwed each other over. | ||
| Yeah, and none of them have any ability. | ||
| To do stuff. | ||
| I mean, Ye used to be able to really, really make good, great music, you know, but then the rest of them have no skills or abilities or stuff. | ||
| They have some skills. | ||
| I mean, in terms of political organizing. | ||
| I actually, I would disagree. | ||
| Actual political organizing, not shit talking. | ||
| There's not much difference these days. | ||
| Boy, you are not wrong. | ||
| I think that people like Milo, Nick... | ||
| Ali Alexander, they all have certain skills, but they think they have more skills than they do. | ||
| Yes, that's definitely true. | ||
| So their egos probably don't allow them to just play their role. | ||
| They all want to be Jordan instead of being Kukoc. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Somebody's got to be Rodman. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's a whole different kettle of fish. | ||
| Well, that's why. | ||
| Someone's got to be Steve Kerr. | ||
| Someone's got to be a role player. | ||
| All of them want to be the franchise player. | ||
| Can't do it. | ||
| No. | ||
| I think that probably led to a lot of the steam dissipating around this. | ||
| Yeah, it does seem like it would be impossible to... | ||
| Here's what I think. | ||
| I think it would be impossible for Nick Fuentes to have to sit in a room... | ||
| With Nick Fuentes being all Nick at him, you know? | ||
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Probably. | |
| Like, at him. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Aggressively him, you know? | ||
| And what is Milo but some version of that, you know? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Quite different. | ||
| I don't mean it like that. | ||
| From a temperament perspective? | ||
| I mean from, like, the just, like, being around and just talking. | ||
| Just, like, always being around each other. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| Which is not fun. | ||
| You're not fun people. | ||
| I'm sure they're all not fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think you could exist in a room with Nick Fuentes for a little while and it not be totally draining. | ||
| I think Milo would get annoying really fast. | ||
| Yeah, that's definitely true. | ||
| Milo's had more time to practice at it, though. | ||
| Yeah, but that also has to do with their particular skill sets. | ||
| Nick is a weaselly shithead debater kid who also knows how to change his presentation for different audiences. | ||
| Whereas Milo, his bread and butter has always been sensational extravagance. | ||
| It's been trolling. | ||
| It's been like he was the king of the trolls originally. | ||
| Yeah, but see, I don't understand. | ||
| That's why I find Nick so much more infuriating. | ||
| Whiny, little, weaselly, lying, put-his-face-on-for-different-audiences, asshole! | ||
| Hate that guy! | ||
| I personally... | ||
| I mean, obviously, I... | ||
| I hate them all, but I think I would much rather be in a room. | ||
| If I had to be stuck in a room with one of them, I think I'd choose Nick. | ||
| That's a question I don't want to dive into. | ||
| I feel like there are times when Nick shuts up, and I don't know if that's true of Milo. | ||
| That's probably true. | ||
| That is probably true. | ||
| And I also think Milo's a bit more smug, and that can bother me. | ||
| I think that's why Nick lasted with Ye longer. | ||
| But didn't Milo come back? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I haven't kept track of all of their comings and goings. | ||
| I hate them so much. | ||
| I do think, and here's the other interesting dynamic. | ||
| This is just me reading from their public presentations and what have you. | ||
| I think that of them, Nick would be the one who is most able to put Ego a bit to the side for the sake of achieving a larger goal. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| He, I think, could be a role player. | ||
| He's still young, though. | ||
| True. | ||
| He's still young. | ||
| He's still got something to shoot for. | ||
| Yeah, Milo's on like... | ||
| Milo's on his eighth life. | ||
| Reinvention five. | ||
| His nine lives are up. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Nick is kind of like a fresh face on the scene, whereas Milo's like, come on, man. | ||
| Yeah, no, if you're talking to Nick... | ||
| We've done this already. | ||
| If you're talking to Nick, you can have this conversation of like, hey, buddy, it's not your time yet. | ||
| You hang back, you learn, you do what you can, and then you'll have your shot. | ||
| You know, that kind of thing. | ||
| Milo already had a shot. | ||
| That's over. | ||
| That's a sad realization. | ||
| Isn't it? | ||
| He had his shot. | ||
| It was probably when he was working at Breitbart. | ||
| It really was. | ||
| Anyway, enough of this nonsense. | ||
| Ye might be a Fed, according to Alex. | ||
| When? | ||
| When did he begin being a Fed? | ||
| If he's a Fed, I want to know when did it start. | ||
| I think Alex is trying to speculate that he had tax problems and that he got blackmailed over it. | ||
| That's kind of the suggestion that Alex is making. | ||
| All right, so Yeezus. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Whether they work for the feds or not, I'm not even saying that's the case. | ||
| I mean, I can tell. | ||
| Oh, you want to come on right when I go live? | ||
| I said, one minute before we go live, he shows up wearing a mask. | ||
| And I said, oh, okay, will you take it off later? | ||
| Yeah, maybe. | ||
| But what are we going to talk about? | ||
| And then the whole thing is I love Hitler and the Jews are bad and all this stuff. | ||
| So, I simply said, this feels like a setup. | ||
| People think the dinner with Trump was a setup. | ||
| I'm not even saying that. | ||
| I don't think they talked about loving Hitler at the dinner with Trump. | ||
| And Trump didn't know it was coming to dinner. | ||
| He thought it was Kanye West. | ||
| So, I'm not saying Kanye West is a fed. | ||
| Maybe he's the greatest troll ever. | ||
| I believe in his first amendment rights. | ||
| But the point is, when you look at his dialectic... | ||
| I'm not saying Nick Foyntes. | ||
| I love how his supporters ran around and said, they say Nick's the Fed. | ||
| I said, I don't know this, and I'm not even saying this is the case. | ||
| I'm saying, is Ye being blackmailed with his tax issues and the rest of it, where he suddenly comes out and quadruples down and does this? | ||
| And I'm simply saying, there's a long history of the ADL, other groups, getting people to behave like this and act like this and do these type of things. | ||
| I mean, you go out to a Nazi rally, American Nazi Party rally, I've covered them. | ||
| They're very rare, but they've had them in Austin. | ||
| I mean, you look at it, and it's a bunch of art students, gay dudes, and Jewish guys. | ||
| And you can see, I mean, it looks like Larry David in the Nazi outfit. | ||
| And you look at me, I look Welsh, okay? | ||
| I mean, you go to the Welsh areas of England, people look like me. | ||
| I got the Welsh genetics from my dad. | ||
| And these guys look like Larry David. | ||
| They're just wearing Nazi outfits. | ||
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It's real funny. | |
| And now the ADL admits they're doing this. | ||
| Well, I mean, here comes yay west this whole thing. | ||
| I'm just like, I'm like, is this the setup? | ||
| I'm allowed to say that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You're allowed to say it. | ||
| I think it's uncompelling, unconvincing, and it's also in service of, you know, just trying to excuse your shitty interview. | ||
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Okay. | |
| That's kind of sad. | ||
| So, yay. | ||
| Bankruptcy issues. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Can't do anything. | ||
| Oh, no, the government comes in. | ||
| G-men come in deposition style. | ||
| The Adjustment Bureau shows up through a door with their hats. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And they're like, listen, we'll take care of this for you. | ||
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Right. | |
| We got you. | ||
| But you have to go on Infowars. | ||
| Well, I mean, obviously, also Gavin McGinnis' show. | ||
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Sure, sure, sure. | |
| Tim Pool's show. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Twitter. | ||
| But, I mean, you know, like, but. | ||
| In this case, you have to wear a mask. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And bring a Yoo-Hoo and a Net. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So, like, did they come up with this? | ||
| Because he didn't wear the mask on other shows, right? | ||
| Were they, like, specifically for Alex? | ||
| You wear the mask. | ||
| Also, no, he did wear the mask on the other show. | ||
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Oh, he did? | |
| Not on Tim Pool's show, but then with Gavin he did. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And then also part of the blackmail with Texas was that Alex had to keep him on air for three hours. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Alex absolutely cannot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Yeah, also, this whole, like, the Nazis are actually gay theater students thing, I thought that was about the Unite the Right rally. | ||
| Like, that was his story for that. | ||
| Now it's American Nazi party rallies in Austin that Alex has allegedly been to? | ||
| Alright, whatever, man. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| The trope of Jews creating their own oppression and what have you is a deeply anti-Semitic idea that has been trafficked. | ||
| And so, I mean, Alex, again, you are allowed to say these things, but you're kind of showing yourself a little bit. | ||
| You shouldn't. | ||
| You shouldn't. | ||
| They seem very dumb. | ||
| And anti-Semitic. | ||
| Very much so. | ||
| So, Alex talks about... | ||
| Hey, Memorial Day, baby. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| We got a memorial. | ||
| He talks about some of his family members who have served. | ||
| Sure, yes, that is what we should be doing, right? | ||
| Except I don't think that this is somebody who died in service. | ||
| Well, then that's not their day. | ||
| So it's Veterans Day, not Memorial Day. | ||
| Yeah, it's not their day! | ||
| No, but he's still got to talk about it. | ||
| And apparently he had a relative who was involved in Iran-Contra. | ||
| When my uncle died about seven, eight years ago. | ||
| He was a Vietnam war hero, amazing guy. | ||
| We dug through his stuff, and it was like, wow, we had, it was like, all the awards he got, all the stuff, doesn't sound real. | ||
| You know, like, all these silver stars, you name it. | ||
| And the point is, he was always such a great stand-up guy. | ||
| He was probably my favorite, you know, extended family member, super smart, and hated the New World Order, so the U.S. government was run by a bunch of pedophiles. | ||
| And that's what leads me to this next moment. | ||
| He said, there's always going to be a point where you're working in a system where it gets so bad, you make a decision to keep your soul or to fight it. | ||
| It was about a year before he died of pneumonia. | ||
| He was in great shape. | ||
| He got pneumonia and died. | ||
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And I said, what do you mean? | |
| And he said, well, you know, I was doing stuff in Central America and South America. | ||
| I ran contra. | ||
| I didn't get the details of it. | ||
| It was all secret. | ||
| I was an Army officer, but he said, It was kids. | ||
| He said the government was smuggling kids out of orphans in Guatemala and giving them to really bad people, and he had to get out of it at that point. | ||
| Well, now you see that majorly upscaled going on in front of everybody. | ||
| So imagine how big that is. | ||
| And even in my family, my mother's brother, you know, witnessed that. | ||
| You'll never believe what a higher coincidence this is, that that's exactly the story that Larry Nichols tells. | ||
| So weird. | ||
| So weird how that works. | ||
| It's not only, like, against the odds that this would be a family member of Alex's, but that one of his sources would have the exact same story and present things in the exact same way of, you have to say it, you have to choose between your soul. | ||
| And that he uncovered that they were dealing in kids and they had to get out. | ||
| Yeah, that's the... | ||
| Wow. | ||
| What are the odds? | ||
| Yeah, it's almost like we're not the only people who memorialized Larry Nichols' passing. | ||
| We have finally got an R.I.P. | ||
| Larry Nichols. | ||
| We've stolen your story. | ||
| Larry Nichols is Alex's uncle, apparently. | ||
| Yeah, it's so easy to... | ||
| Wow, that's... | ||
| A man stealing a dead man's story is rough. | ||
| But who cares? | ||
| They're all liars and con people, so why not? | ||
| It's like the Bundy... | ||
| Standoff where they're all sitting around the fire telling war stories that they were never a part of. | ||
| Well, you know, I feel like when I die, I would not mind if my organs were given to people to give them a, you know, to be able to continue on with their lives. | ||
| Sure, sure, absolutely. | ||
| In the same way, con men, I'm sure, are fine with their lives being used for further cons. | ||
| Do you think you bequeath your cons? | ||
| You have to sign back your license. | ||
| I was wondering, is there a deed to the con? | ||
| Yeah, it's property. | ||
| Not intellectual, but it's property. | ||
| Well, you know, you gotta do what you gotta do. | ||
| So we actually have one last clip here because Alex not having a hot one. | ||
| No, I mean, he's in a hotel room. | ||
| And he is for the next few days after this, too. | ||
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No! | |
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Same hotel room. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Still there, as far as I can tell. | ||
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Weird. | |
| We're recording this on Thursday, and I not checked his show today, but he might still be in that room. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Two weeks going on since he's been in studio. | ||
| Gotta get back into the studio. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm pro work from home. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| You can handle that. | ||
| We work from home, obviously. | ||
| I'm anti-work from hotel. | ||
| That's just the wrong place to do it. | ||
| But what about when we were down in Austin for the trial? | ||
| We worked from a hotel. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| We did a lot of work and I went crazy. | ||
| No, that was because you were on Twitter too much. | ||
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There's a lot of places to go crazy. | |
| So yeah, Alex talks a little bit here about the... | ||
| There's a source that the John Birch Society had. | ||
| And I found it interesting that he was able to pull this name because he's now one for specifics. | ||
| And I'll be honest with you. | ||
| Not a satisfying last clip for an episode. | ||
| Doesn't really put a button on anything. | ||
| But here we are. | ||
| And the John Birch Society had people in the Pentagon that were patriots, like Fletcher Prouty, who ran the major regime change operations of the U.S. government. | ||
| They had people like Fletcher Prouty and others giving them all the intel. | ||
| Men that were in the briefing rooms being told this whole plan. | ||
| And these men are in these meetings going, this is horrible, and giving it out to the John Birch Society. | ||
| Man, a lot of people involved in overthrow operations that Alex admires, like Steve Pachenik. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Missed that guy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What if he was in the hotel room? | ||
| Oh my god, that's what you do. | ||
| Bring him in his housekeeping. | ||
| You gotta have the reveal of it being him the whole time. | ||
| Alex, do you not leave a tip? | ||
| Alex, come on, look at the sheets. | ||
| So that's not a great name for Alex to pull out as the secret source for the John Birch Society. | ||
| Fletcher Prouty did have a long career in the services, but he's also... | ||
| Kind of remembered as a lunatic. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Prouty has been involved in a number of incorrect conspiracy assertions over the years, mostly revolving around the JFK assassination. | ||
| He was so important to that stuff that it said that he was the inspiration for Donald Sutherland's character in Oliver Stone's JFK. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds right. | ||
| He also had a penchant for targeting people unnecessarily and incorrectly for things that would bolster his conspiracy claims, which is... | ||
| Pretty similar to Alex. | ||
| Yeah, that seems right on the par for course. | ||
| For instance, he cast suspicion on Louis Witt, who would come to be known as the Umbrella Man, who was an innocent bystander at the JFK assassination. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| He also inaccurately accused a man named Alexander Butterfield of being a CIA liaison with the White House. | ||
| That was not true. | ||
| He's essentially a shit-talker with little credibility. | ||
| Also, much like Alex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Also like Alex, he had a tendency to keep bad company. | |
| He was pretty involved with the Church of Scientology and was called upon by them to be an expert witness to back up L. Ron Hubbard's ridiculous claims about his military Oh, wow. | ||
| So again, this is a person with almost no credibility and shady associations. | ||
| You know, it is shocking. | ||
| How far you can get with bullshit and confidence. | ||
| It is truly shocking. | ||
| The history that is made out of bullshit and confidence is unparalleled. | ||
| Yeah, so he is responsible for having an affidavit that suggested... | ||
| That L. Ron Hubbard's military service might be sheep dipped. | ||
| It might be a situation where there's a lot of stuff being intentionally withheld because he was involved in high-level naval intelligence. | ||
| Sure he was, buddy. | ||
| Sure he was. | ||
| So that's the guy who was secretly feeding all this intel to the JBS. | ||
| Man, giving yourself, putting that on paper, an affidavit! | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I was unable to tell exactly if he was actually in Scientology or if he was just somebody that was willing to serve as an expert witness for them on stuff that he wasn't necessarily an expert on nor knew anything about. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Either way, not good. | ||
| It seems like he would be prime for both opportunities. | ||
| One, if you're Elrond, you're thinking, oh, this guy, he's on the edge of Scientology already. | ||
| I don't need to do much but watch him fall. | ||
| Or you're thinking, this guy will say whatever I pay him to. | ||
| Who knows, but it's an interesting name for Alex to pull out. | ||
| It was so specific. | ||
| Fletcher Prouty. | ||
| It was very specific. | ||
| How do you know that? | ||
| I think he knows a lot more about the John Birch Society than even we think. | ||
| Maybe? | ||
| It's hard to believe. | ||
| It is, but I really think that it's possible. | ||
| But if he does, then it's a lot more damning of a picture than... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Then maybe even... | ||
| Well, but that's the thing. | ||
| I think... | ||
| It's always been my sense that a lot of that John Birch Society stuff is things that he read as a kid and things that were culturally part of the household. | ||
| So a lot of the ideas and the belief system is there. | ||
| And he has that, and it's part of who he is and his cultural and intellectual tradition. | ||
| But then the specifics of things like Fletcher Prouty, that kind of throws me off a little bit. | ||
| Here's my theory on it, and I'm going to throw this out. | ||
| And I'm going to say that this is based on some experience. | ||
| I feel, as we watch his decline, we are seeing some of those onion layers get pulled back as he becomes more and more desperate. | ||
| Wow, he's in a hotel room. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And I think he's spoken more about JBS, I feel like, in the past year or two than he has in any of our investigations. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I think as we see stuff get fall, as he declines, as he disintegrates, we see what his core really is, and it's fucking JBS, man. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| There is more talk about JBS, in the same way that the really grotesque and extreme devil talk became more as things progressed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, who knows? | ||
| That leads us to a real question of what do we get at that peach pit of Alex's... | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| It's probably bad. | ||
| That Grinch's heart's not going to go three sizes, I'll tell you that right now. | ||
| No, sir. | ||
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No, ma 'am. | |
| The Hoos are all dead. | ||
| They are dead! | ||
| We have ended that! | ||
| He's not there to steal Christmas. | ||
| Christmas is mine! | ||
| He's defending the Second Amendment, breaking into houses, gun grabbing Hoos. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| So, we'll be back, Jordan, with another episode. | ||
| And Alex, I will check in and cover his hotel antics. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| But I do want him to get back to studio. | ||
| This vacation's gone on too long. | ||
| Too long. | ||
| He's not in prime mid-season form when he's in a hotel room sitting by himself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's just kind of a bummer to imagine that he's sitting there having a drink at noon, and then he's just going to go to the pool afterwards. | ||
| It's like, this sucks. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Get back to work, man. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And it makes him sad. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You can tell that sitting there in front of the computer doing the show is just... | ||
| He's just in a t-shirt, just kind of like, it's not the info war. | ||
| You know, it's a show. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| It's a show. | ||
| When he's in studio. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I mean, make a show. | ||
| If you're going to do a show, you have to make a show. | ||
| You can't just be in your fucking hotel room. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| It's just a Zoom interview or something. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's soft. | ||
| Unless you do a bit, in which case you got yourself a show. | ||
| That would have been fantastic. | ||
| That would have been fantastic. | ||
| If Rob Dew comes in another week, I got you ice. | ||
| All right, Dew. | ||
| So we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, Jordan, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep, we're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Yay, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZXClark. | ||
| Still haven't come up with a new bit, but... | ||
| Boop, boop. | ||
| Woo, yeah! | ||
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Woo, yeah! | |
| And now... | ||
| Here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |