#813: May 29, 2023—Alex Jones claims Memorial Day honors "InfoWar" veterans like Robert W. Welch Jr., falsely tying his persecution to declassified ADL/CIA/FBI documents while misdating a 1974 JBS speech. He boasts 95% public adoration, ignoring stock trends (Anheuser-Busch’s 2022 decline) and peddling COVID-19 as biological warfare via fringe figures like Dr. David Martin. Kanye West’s alleged blackmail mirrors Jones’ anti-Semitic tropes, while Vietnam veteran claims echo discredited sources like Larry Nichols. The episode reveals Jones’ pattern of fabrication, ideological exploitation, and detached conspiracy rhetoric, exposing his detachment from reality. [Automatically generated summary]
Yeah, there is an element of like, sometimes I would like to have to find something, and sometimes just the simple effort of being like, oh, I'm going to choose to go watch this movie is beyond what you can handle.
And you'd just rather be like, oh, somebody did something for me.
And I'm here on Memorial Day because it's such an important day when we look at what our country's turned into and where we're going and what so many have fought, died for for the future and the existence of this republic.
But I wanted to talk about someone who fought in the InfoWar so incredibly strong.
And that was Robert Welsh for the John Birch Society, who was targeted by the ADL, the CIA, that was declassified two weeks ago for the national campaign of infiltration, of lies, of lawsuits, of harassment, and just criminal activity.
Owen's in the studio and does some of the anchor duties, like the two of them co-host for part of it.
But Alex is around for most of the episode, not the third hour.
He legitimately looks insane since the camera is the level of quality you find built into a laptop and the shot is angled upward like it would be from a laptop.
As to that stuff about the John Birch Society, we covered that on our last present day episode.
And I want to really focus in on what Alex is claiming.
He said that Robert Welsh and the JBS were targeted by the ADL and the CIA, and this was declassified last week.
In reality, what happened was that last week, Alex skimmed a headline of an article about a historian who was interviewed about a book he'd put out recently.
The book was about the John Birch Society, and one chapter had to do with the fact that some of the members of the ADL had infiltrated the JBS on fact-finding missions.
Nothing was declassified, and the CIA wasn't in cahoots with these ADL members who went undercover.
This is a slippery way that Alex uses language to exaggerate his own oppression and the oppression of his ideological allies, and the way he tries to dress it up in the appearance of officialdom.
It sounds so much cooler to say the CIA was targeting his buddies and that this was declassified, as opposed to how dorky it sounds to complain about an interview with an author that you didn't even read.
You didn't read the book, you didn't read the interview, and you didn't read the article about the interview.
You know, the thought occurs that, like, if you, because his telling of the story and the one that is real are so different.
Yeah.
Like, even if you had listened to him tell it the first time, then looked it up and were like, well, that's not the same story, you would be forgiven for thinking, oh, I just mistaken the wrong one because they're so unrelated.
It's not like, oh, he's taking the wrong bits of information.
And this calls into question: you should keep in mind every time Alex says things are declassified, this is the kind of thing he's willing to call declassified because it elevates and serves his purposes to do so.
So, but that is only the surface of what the purpose this serves is, and the reason that Alex is bringing it back up and seems to be very interested in making this a focus of his rhetoric and coverage.
And that is that it also now applies to every other racist group that he's super cool with.
You know, like, all of these groups that are, you know, carrying out exercises and, you know, are definitely threats to commit domestic violence and terrorism.
People like the Patriot Front are now just proven.
It's been declassified that the ADL just infiltrated the Patriot Front and did all this Nazi stuff in order to create the appearance that they're actually a Nazi group.
Really, they just want people to have nice families.
Well, I don't think that the Nazi organizations themselves would say that.
But people providing cover for them may do that.
Right.
And I think it would be an interesting question to ask if these Nazi organizations would resent that or if they appreciate the cover that people like Alex would provide them by creating these narratives.
A part of that plan, of course, is to induce the graduate video better of American sovereignty, piece by piece and step by step, to various international organizations, of which the United Nations is the outstanding but far from the only example man.
So this is Alex's Memorial day show, and he seems to be starting out suggesting that Robert Welsh is someone to celebrate on that holiday.
This should be deeply offensive to the veterans and enlisted persons in Alex's audience.
Since memorial day is about honoring soldiers who died in service.
Robert Welsh never served the country and he died peacefully at age 85.
Nothing about his life in any way qualifies him to be a figure to take time out for and celebrate on memorial day.
And even if it's true that Alex just wants to talk about the Info War memorial day, you know maybe, if that's the case, I I guess that would be a day to honor those people who've died in the pursuit of stupid anti-communist conspiracy theories.
But even that Robert Welsh wouldn't qualify for.
No no, i'm not sure who would qualify, but i'm guessing it's a mess of creeps and probably people who have done mass shootings.
So you might think that Alex listened to this Robert Welch speech and thought it was so powerful so he decided i'm gonna select a clip here, but you'd be wrong.
There's a watermark on it for an account called at i'm Meme Zero.
Who has the handle?
I'm meme.
Therefore, I am.
It's a super cool meme guy.
Clearly, this account posted the small excerpt of Welch's speech on twitter on may 26th, then retweeted it a couple days later.
So Alex clearly saw it and decided to run with it as a news item, because he's dumb and lazy also.
Not for nothing, this account also tweeted out a video with the caption quote, since veterans day is almost over, I just want you to always remember this message.
Then there's a like an American Flag emoji.
Veterans day is in november right anyway this uh, this account is just a constant barrage of right-wing culture, war type, whining about things like how corporations are too woke because they celebrate pride, and they also seem to be really mad about black lives matter.
Yeah, also a small point, this speech wasn't from 1958.
It's a recording from 1974.
But the title on the youtube video that i'm meme Zero is taking this from.
UH, the title is quote, Robert Welch speech.
Parentheses, Greatest Speech In America, 1958.
These people haven't even watched the source material they're polling this from or know anything about the subject.
The dead giveaways should be one, the actual speech is titled 15 years ago, referring to the founding of the JOHN Birch Society being 15 years in the past, in 1958, and this is also a speech that Welch originally gave in 1973, so that's why it's 15 years in 2016.
Yes, and it's mostly a rehashing of the material that ended up becoming the blue book of the John Birch Society, which was mostly taken from the lecture that he gave at that first meeting when he was recruiting people like Revealo P. Oliver and what have you.
The second dead giveaway should be that the MC for this event is John McManus, who's credited as the director of public relations.
McManus would go on to be the president of the John Birch Society, but he didn't even join until 1966 and wasn't given the title of the head PR guy until 1973.
I may be telling you something you already know, but meme accounts rarely provide accurate, useful information.
Alex isn't a scholar about his own cultural lineage or his ideological successors.
He doesn't know anything about this Robert Welch speech outside of the fact that he saw it posted on a dumbass meme Twitter account.
That Welch speech is actually about an hour and 45 minutes long, not an hour long.
And like I said, it's more or less just a verbal version of the blue book.
Welch speaks for a very long time and is very boring, but he is introduced to stage by another one of the founding members of the John Birch Society, one of the other people there who was there at that first meeting.
One of the original 12, if you include Welch himself.
No, Fred Koch was another of the founding members.
Damn.
But this is William J. Grady, who was the owner of Grady Foundries Incorporated, one of the largest steel and iron producers in the country at the time.
In addition to that, as is put in his obituary from the New York Times, quote, from 1956 to 1961, he was a top official at J.I. Case Company, a manufacturer of farm equipment.
In both of these capacities, Grady had run-ins with organized labor and he hated unions.
In 1960, autoworkers, United Auto Workers declared a strike over breaches of collective bargaining and some messiness with paid vacation days at J.I. Case.
Grady threatened to leave the city if workers didn't get back to work, but that move wasn't successful and the strike ended up being resolved after six months.
J.I. Case has a long history of ending up in strikes.
They had a then-record-setting 440-day strike that ended in 1947.
Before that, they had a 108-day strike in 1937.
Reading over how that was covered in the New York Times is really interesting and definitely gives you quite a sense that maybe the Times wasn't so behind organized labor.
Quote, the first of the 1,800 production workers thrown into idleness when the picketing forced the closing of the farm machinery manufacturing plants last October will return to work tomorrow.
J.I. Case had a long history with strikers, and it was well known that their leadership was very hostile toward unions and collective bargaining as a whole.
And Grady Foundries was no different.
William Grady hated the idea of the needs and rights of workers getting in the way of his ability to make money.
So it should be no surprise that in 1952, he became the president of the National Association of Manufacturers, a lobbying group that was very focused on fighting against the power of unions and workers' rights.
The National Association of Manufacturers was the recruiting pool that Robert Welch picked the first members of the John Birch Society from, as Welsh himself was on their board.
At least half of the founding members were in high-level positions with the National Association of Manufacturers, and there was a targeted effort on Welsh's part to find new members for the JBS from within the National Association of Manufacturers.
I go down this road a little bit because it's important to understand that what motivated a lot of the anti-communist fervor in the people who inspired much of Alex's worldview is that they hated paying workers fair wages, and they didn't want dumb things like safety precautions to cut into their profits.
There's obviously a bit more to the Birchers and what goes into their worldview, but this is not an insignificant piece of it.
Yeah, I mean, I would argue that most of the trappings around it are trappings because the fundamental thing is I want to make as much money as I possibly can.
Also, Alex just plays a little small clip from this speech, but I think that maybe him and I Meme Zero should wrestle with some of the other stuff in this speech, like this part where Welch actually?
Now, if the danger from the communist conspiracy were all we had to worry about, it would be enough.
But in my opinion, the first great basic weakness of the United States, and hence its susceptibility to the disease of collectivism, is simply the age of the Western European civilization.
Some of you will already have recognized, in fact, that I am drawing a corollary to the conclusions usually connected with the name of Oswald Spengler.
Spengler's theory is absolutely fatal to the acceptance of socialism or any form of collectivism as a forward step or as a form of progress in man's sociological arrangements.
For in Spengler's view, collectivism is a disease of society, concomitant with decay, and remarkably similar to cancer in the individual.
That is to say that he supported Hitler and the National Socialists, but felt that their focus on pure German people wouldn't be appealing enough to other potential allies.
He's like a woke Nazi, you might say.
He wasn't necessarily an anti-Semite, but he was a scholarly voice who helped champion the ideas that brought Hitler and the Nazis into power.
He was also a really fucked up dude.
A 1939 article about him in the National Journal of Literature and Discussion said, quote, Spengler assailed modern medicine for interfering with natural selection and for accelerating racial decay.
A strong race he defined as one with an inexhaustible birth rate, compensating for severe selection process, which is provided by the resistances to living represented by misfortune, sickness, and war.
The test of race for him was the speed of reproduction.
So, yeah, he hated medicine because he wanted everybody just to like, yeah, you're right, you got sick because you're weak.
Let me just kind of sit back and say something here that's really important before I had all the big news.
And it's huge.
A couple of weeks ago, I was on TV on the program of Steve Ann.
And he asked me, are we winning?
And I said, well, all I can use is a gauge of what I see out in the public.
I'm a well-known person.
The average person is not well-known, so they don't really get to have that experience of what the feedback is.
And I've heard talks about this a hundred times.
Listeners don't need me to repeat it.
But basically, I talked about the fact that I've got 95% love over the years, but still, you know, I would get 5% hate.
And when you're walking down the street, that's still quite a bit.
So for every 90 people, 95 people I shook their hands, I would run into four or five, said, you're a Russian age and I hope you die or something like that.
Rub coffee on me, tea on me, slap me in the back of the head.
A lot of it has been caught on video.
People know what happens to prominent populists in America first who's a conservatives.
And then I talked about how it's been like eight, nine months since that's happened one time.
By the way, it did happen finally last week.
The guy said, how dare you show your face in public?
You've got to be ashamed of yourself.
And I started laughing at him and brought him.
Well, Madeline Almright said that she killed 500,000 kids with sanctions and would do it again on 60 minutes.
Is that good?
Is that good?
Did I kill any kids?
No.
Great conversation.
But all I get is love now.
And I noticed they had a bunch of publications who say, oh, look how crazy Jones is.
No one loves him.
Everybody hates him.
That's like Tokyo Rose broadcasting the American sailors and Marines when we were right off the coast of Japan and had already bombed them in the Stone Age, weeks before we dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, saying the Americans are defeated.
Yeah, so we've documented over the years Alex constantly saying that, oh, now everyone loves me.
It used to be that everyone was mean to me, but now they're all so nice to me.
You know, over different periods of time, he just constantly tells me the story in order to provide morale for the troops, as it were, in his audience.
I guess there was like, I don't know, maybe it was a Media Matters article or something, but yeah, someone posted a video of that that went around and people were making fun of it.
I said, yes, actually was just planning to air that today.
And what is the video?
Joe sent me the Kim.com tweet.
This is the most important video you will watch this year.
Millions were killed with COVID-19 for profit.
COVID-19 was an act of biological warfare substantially on the human rights.
It was a financial heist.
Nature was hijacked.
Science was hijacked.
This is from the recent international COVID summit at the EU, hosted with the European Parliament.
So far, 766 million COVID infections have been recorded.
And the breakdown here is absolutely critical.
And we're going to be getting to that coming up here on the Special Memorial Day broadcast.
If you're not just going to remember the troops that were killed fighting the station, we should now know the American people, people of the world are the victims of a biological warfare attack.
This guy is a COVID conspiracy hot shot, pun intended, named Dr. David Martin, and he's trying to bring back the bow tie look, which isn't going great.
He spends the first six minutes of the clip talking about how we've known about coronaviruses for decades, which I found uninteresting, but he was presenting as if it's mind-blowing information.
Anyway, this was from an event called the International COVID Summit 3, which has the air of a real serious event, but it's actually just a propaganda performance.
Like I mentioned, Robert Malone, this David Martin, Chair Corey, and a bunch of international folks who we haven't necessarily met in our coverage, but are very similar to the folks we have.
The International COVID Summit was apparently hosted by certain members of the European Parliament, but they're referred to as, quote, non-attached members of the Parliament, which means that they're individuals in the Parliament who are not part of any party that has any real sway.
I mean, I would say that a lot of the speeches that you might see on C-SPAN, whenever they show the senator speaking directly and they don't show the crowd because the crowd is three other senators.
They had a self-help coach from Canada complaining about the media.
And they had a doctor named Ryan Cole, who's about to lose his license.
Cole is an interesting case because he was very happy to profit from COVID early on as he ran a little lab in Garden City, Idaho, which he presented to Medicaid as, quote, using fully automated high-volume systems that he could use to run tests.
And they couldn't handle the load they claimed they could.
Cole claimed that they could handle all this testing, and he accepted over $500,000 in government funds, which allegedly did not go to the ends of COVID testing.
A former molecular diagnostic supervisor there told the Idaho Capitol Sun, it was volume over safety and accuracy.
Cole Diagnostics was a small lab at the beginning of 2020 and took on more than what Dr. Cole promised and said that it could do that summer.
All in all, Cole was given over more than a million dollars in government funds specifically for COVID-related activity.
He was more than happy to use the pandemic to get a ton of free money early on, but now the grift's kind of moved on, and now we just got to be like, meh.
A woman named Andrea Wynne told the paper that the lab took shortcuts when doing COVID testing.
Quote, given Dr. Cole's public statements downplaying the severity of the virus, it makes sense that he was permissive of a lowered standard of testing.
He either did not believe or refused to acknowledge that bad results were of potentially high consequence to his patients and the public.
She went on to say, quote, We were told to run specimens where we knew the integrity had been compromised.
Certainly.
The paper spoke to two other former employees and reported this: they noticed Cole pouring liquid into dried-out vials and running the tests with that reconstituted sample.
Diluting an already compromised sample could have caused people with the virus to get false negative results.
He's now arguing that COVID vaccines cause cancer, which is what he was speaking about at that summit.
He claims that he'd seen a big increase in cancer at his lab, which is strange because he's not supposed to be the kind of doctor that diagnoses patients.
He hasn't produced evidence of his claims about increased cancer, but he has apparently misdiagnosed at least two people as having cancer.
And that's led to a complaint being raised to the Washington Medical Commission to, quote, investigate whether Cole has intentionally or subconsciously misread cancer tests while making false claims about COVID-19 vaccines and cancer.
Also, one of the people he allegedly misdiagnosed is suing him after she needlessly got a hysterectomy because of his misdiagnosis.
Who knows what kind of damage this guy has directly caused?
And now he's an expert speaking at this dumb-dumb COVID conspiracy summit.
These people are monsters, and I don't really give a fuck about this guy, David Martin, with his stupid bow tie, talking about just anti-COVID conspiracy talking points.
I mean, like this, this accepting government money to do tests you don't have the capacity to do and doing a bad job on this at the risk of, I mean, if you're providing false negative tests for a ton of people, especially, you know, this lab deals with elderly patients, people in assisted living.
Sure.
Who knows how many lives you're putting directly at risk because of your desire to get these government grants?
It's exactly what they're accusing doctors of doing, killing patients for COVID money.
But also, it calls to mind also a lot of the folks who, you know, were willing to accept, you know, COVID stimulus money for their companies and stuff, get these government loans.
Because it just came out that the CIA and the FBI working with the ADL criminally targeted the organization who was 100% dead on everything they said has come true.
People think Alex Jones is right.
This group absolutely scared the hell out of the globalists because they were populists, they were pro-American, they were anti-communist, they were not racist, and that was the prototype the ADL went after.
And they classified it two weeks ago that the ADL knew they were innocent, knew they were good, and set them up and infiltrated members in to then go to press conferences and say racist things so they can attribute it to the John versus which we know goes on.
We know Third Property Law Center bare minimum had people inside of the office and they would run around saying N-word, N-word, N-word, and people say, we're going to fire him.
If you're running around throwing out the N-word, I think Alex is just trying to come up with defenses for accusations and things that people have revealed about the racist workspace that he fosters.
And understand that we are the modern warriors in the information war that are taking these globalists on, and they're losing the fight with the people of humanity.
The truth's coming out.
That's why I was telling the story last segment about Alex Jones being a microcosm or a bellwether, a gauge, a sensor, so we can know where the public really stands and having 99 to 1 positive interactions.
If they were able to make it feel like slightly organic and not call out that it's Rob Dew in a wig over and over again, I would legitimately find that hilarious.
And that's because it would be a 25-year-long payoff.
You know, like the, that's, that's really, that's the joke about it, is that it would have taken its 25 years of setup to get to that perfect punchline.
And when I see understanding of how this is psychological warfare and people get that, once you're aware of the psychological warfare, you've got the 35,000 foot view.
It's very, very hard to control you.
In fact, the propaganda does the opposite.
It pisses you off.
It motivates you.
It spurs you to stand up.
So here's an example of this.
And I describe this as kamikaze.
You see Anheuser-Busch lose now $10 billion and lose now.
It's 35% of their market.
And they predict in six months it'll be 60% of their market.
They destroyed the number one beer company in the world.
So they spent tens of millions of dollars in advertising to get to that point and to be a hundred-plus-year-old company gone.
Their whining does seem to be making a small dent, but nothing like the impact a bad dividend report would have and has had or the like caught, like obviously COVID lockdowns, like bars being closed was a big hit.
A lot of people have commented on some of the slowed down sales have to do with Budweiser in particular being late to the market on seltzers, which are like a large part of retail alcohol shopping now.
So these are factors that are in the mix.
But what's going on is just a lull that honestly is probably going to be seen by investors as a pretty good opportunity to get in at a cut rate because you have to remember that even Alex doesn't realize how many beer companies are owned by this conglomerate.
It's all good and well to avoid Bud and Bud Light because you're mad that they had a one-off promotional thing with a trans person.
But in order to really hit InBEV, you need to avoid Bex, Corona, Modelo, Michelob, Stella Artois, Bush, Natty Light, King Cobra, LeBat, Goose Island, and tons of other beers that just appear to be small breweries that are actually owned by InBev.
But it's almost like because of the very capitalist thing that they desire so much, a small corporation can gather up so much power, you effectively cannot punish them through these types of people.
The stock price is down a little bit, but it will recover because people love booze.
Alex, of all people, should understand that and also consider how much penetration they have into foreign markets that aren't swayed by this right-wing culture war bullshit nonsense.
And I think I'm not sure if this was true before Citizens United or not, but ever since corporations or people, I feel, became just an accepted part of our life, it is like, why are you guys mad at Anheuser-Busch?
I know Alex is trying to pretend this was a setup and like Ye tricked him, but based on what he's claiming they talked about before the show, it seems like Alex just didn't realize what he was getting into and how hopelessly out of his depth he was with Ye and Nick Fuentes.
I can understand Alex wanting to save face, but this is pathetic.
And I think if you're describing that as the conversation you had with Ye where you're like, I don't want to get into a bunch of Jew bashing, I bet Ye doesn't think that's what he's doing.
Like what the cause for maybe it, I mean, it seems to me that maybe it's just infighting led to it not being as bad as it could have been between like Milo and Nick and Ali Alexander and Ye, like all those figures are not people who can coexist.
Whether they work for the Feds or not, I'm not even saying that's the case.
I mean, I can tell, oh, you want to come on right when I go live?
I said, one minute before we go live, he shows up wearing a mask.
And I said, oh, okay, will you take it off later?
Yeah, maybe.
But what are we going to talk about?
And then the whole thing is, I love Hitler and the Jews are bad and all this stuff.
So I simply said, this feels like a setup.
People think the dinner with Trump was a setup.
I'm not even saying that.
How did they talk about loving Hitler the dinner with Trump?
And Trump didn't know it was coming to dinner.
He thought it was Kanye West, Yay West.
So I'm not saying Ye West is a fed.
Maybe he's the greatest troll ever.
I believe in his first time at Reichs.
But the point is, when you look at this dialectic, I'm not saying Nick Fuentes.
I love how his supporters ran around and said, they say Nick's a fed.
I said, I don't know this, and I'm not even saying this is a case.
I'm saying, is Yay being blackmailed with his tax issues and the rest of it, where he suddenly comes out and quadruples down and does this.
And I'm simply saying there's a long history of the ADL, other groups, getting people to behave like this and act like this and do these type of things.
Then, I mean, you go out to a Nazi rally, American Nazi Party rally.
I've covered them.
They're very rare, but they've had them in Austin.
I mean, you look at it, and it's a bunch of art students, gay dudes, and Jewish guys.
And you can see, I mean, I mean, it looks like Larry Damon in the Nazi outfit.
And you look at me, I look Welsh, okay?
I mean, you go to the Welsh area and say, oh, people look like me.
I got the Welsh genetics for my dad.
And these guys look like Larry Damon.
They're just wearing Nazi outfits.
It's real funny.
And now the ADL admits they're doing this.
Well, I mean, here comes Yay West, this whole thing.
When my uncle died about seven, eight years ago, he was a Vietnam war hero, an amazing guy.
We dug through his stuff, and it was like, wow, all the awards he got, all the stuff doesn't sound real.
All these silver stars, you name it.
And the point is, he was always such a great stand-up guy.
I probably might be a favorite extended family member, super smart, and hated the new laws of the U.S. government was run by a bunch of pedophiles.
And that's what leads me to this next moment.
He said, there's always going to be a point where you're working in a system where it gets so bad you make a decision to keep your soul or to fight it.
It was about a year before he died of pneumonia.
He was in great shape.
He shot pneumonia and died.
And I said, what do you mean?
And he said, well, you know, I was doing stuff in Central America and South America.
I ran contrary.
I didn't give him the details.
That was all secret as an army officer.
But he said it was kids.
He said the government was smuggling kids out of orphan's in Guatemala and giving them to really bad people.
And he had to get out of it at that point.
Well, now you see that majorly upscaled going on in front of everybody.
So imagine how big that is.
And even in my family, my mother's brother witnessed that.
It's not only like against the odds that this would be a family member of Alex's, but that one of his sources would have the exact same story and present things in the exact same way of you have to say it, you have to choose between your soul, you know, like, oh, and that he uncovered that they were dealing in kids and they had to get out.
Well, you know, I feel like when I die, I would not mind if my organs were given to people to give them a, you know, to be able to continue on with their lives.
And the John Birch Society had people in the Pentagon that were patriots, like Fletcher Prouty, who ran the major regime change operations, U.S. government.
They had people like Fletcher Prouty and others giving them all the intel.
Men that were in the briefing rooms being told this whole plan.
And these men are in these meetings going, this is horrible, and giving it out to the John Burks Society.
He also had a penchant for targeting people unnecessarily and incorrectly for things that would bolster his conspiracy claims, which is pretty similar to Alex.
For instance, he casts suspicion on Louis Witt, who would come to be known as the umbrella man, who was an innocent bystander at the JFK assassination.
He also inaccurately accused a man named Alexander Butterfield of being a CIA liaison with the White House.
That was not true.
He's essentially a shit talker with little credibility.
Also, like Alex, he had a tendency to keep bad company.
He was pretty involved with the Church of Scientology and was called upon by them to be an expert witness to back up L. Ron Hubbard's ridiculous claims about his medical service or his military service.
I was unable to tell exactly if he was actually in Scientology or if he was just somebody that was willing to serve as an expert witness for them on stuff that he wasn't necessarily an expert on nor knew anything about.
But if he does, then it's a lot more damning of a picture than maybe even.
Well, that's the thing.
Like, I think it's always been my sense that a lot of that John Birch Society's stuff is things that he read as a kid and things that were culturally part of the household.