Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex is doing now that he's back in the studio. In this installment, Alex and his employees recruit for a Nazi-adjacent militia, Dan harmonizes with an oldie-but-a-goodie, and Jordan does a rare spit-take.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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and your knowledge fight. | |
| I need, I need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| Jordan! | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan! | ||
| Jordan! | ||
| Jordan! | ||
| I have a quick question for you. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| What is your bright spot today? | ||
| My bright spot, man, is learning new things. | ||
| Learning new things. | ||
| Yeah, so after our last episode, some shit has come to light. | ||
| I've realized some stuff. | ||
| I think that every cat owner understands this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That you'll often be asleep and you'll wake up and your cat is sitting there staring at you. | ||
| They've got it, yeah. | ||
| And that's happened to me a million times. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But after we had the last episode, I was laying in bed, I was taking a nap, and I woke up and Celine was staring at me. | ||
| And I never would have noticed this before. | ||
| But she had a jar of honey mustard next to her. | ||
| I never would have noticed it. | ||
| She was waiting to eat me. | ||
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Anyway. | |
| What? | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| Yeah, it's beautiful. | ||
| It's beautiful. | ||
| My bright spot is... | ||
| I also appreciate that she wasn't a hack and she didn't go with barbecue sauce. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Well, I mean, frankly, the first thing I thought was, you're going to eat him without Grey Poupon? | ||
| You're a Grey Poupon man. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Probably more of a deli mustard than a honey mustard. | ||
| You want to get a good saturated taste in there. | ||
| She doesn't like the bitter and tart as much. | ||
| No, and I understand. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| She doesn't know that you don't eat meat. | ||
| On the bone. | ||
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So again, I ask you, what is your bright spot? | |
| My bright spot is, my wife and I watch this show, Kunk on Earth, which is a British... | ||
| A mockumentary type show. | ||
| It's a comedian. | ||
| Conk? | ||
| Yeah, well, she's playing the role of your, what's his documentarian? | ||
| David Attenborough? | ||
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Yes. | |
| She's playing the role of your Attenborough, and she does what I think is the comedy version of Close Up Magic. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Which is that comedy interview where you get a hopelessly earnest, brilliant... | ||
| Intellectual, some sort of, like, professor who spent their entire life studying something and cares so much about it. | ||
| And then you act like a real fool to them. | ||
| Sort of like an Ali G situation. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Yeah, it's 100%. | ||
| Like, let me ask the dumbest questions that you have to both consider. | ||
| Hate me for? | ||
| And then try and answer because you're on TV, you know? | ||
| Like, that's close-up magic to me. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Sure, I could see that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Kunk on air? | ||
| On earth. | ||
| On earth. | ||
| And it is very much like that, a little bit of Monty Python kind of style of... | ||
| Here's the way that you say this about the Earth, and we'll say it in a dumber way. | ||
| And then do a silly walk. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| 100% a silly walk. | ||
| Oh, totally. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| All British humor. | ||
| Look, I'm sorry to our foreign listeners. | ||
| Whoa, whoa, you're saying all? | ||
| It's all based on silly walking. | ||
| That's all. | ||
| I've watched everything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've watched Fawlty Towers. | ||
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Yep. | |
| I've watched The Black Adder. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I've watched all of Rowan Atkinson's work. | ||
| Oh, I mean, delightful. | ||
| Delightful in totality. | ||
| Mostly funny walking. | ||
| Some of his stand-up does not hold up. | ||
| Mr. Bean. | ||
| If we start going back through the list of stand-up that holds up, I think we're going to be in trouble. | ||
| Mr. Bean, it's canceled. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I loved when Mr. Bean came out in that all leather red suit and did, what was it, Mr. Bean's Raw? | ||
| I think that's what it was. | ||
| Learned a lesson that day, and that is you don't take in beans raw. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| Legumes need to be cooked. | ||
| Anyways, what's your bright spot? | ||
| So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| We're going to be talking about February 2nd, 2023, which is today as we're recording this. | ||
| 2223. | ||
| That's right, 2223. | ||
| We're recording a little bit late, so please mind the neighbors. | ||
| I will do my best. | ||
| But yeah, we're recording this. | ||
| Late, because we wanted to get this turned around, because we wanted to get a response from Alex to the new major report, a five-part series in the SPLC, about Alex's text messages. | ||
| And unfortunately or fortunately, Alex doesn't even mention them. | ||
| We're going to listen to his show anyway. | ||
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He doesn't even mention them? | |
| Oh my god. | ||
| I mean, of all the things, I knew that was going to happen, but it's my favorite result. | ||
| Yeah, it's a strange thing. | ||
| He also was going to do a 6 o 'clock broadcast or a show in the evening, which is just impossible to turn around. | ||
| No, we just can't do that. | ||
| It's possible because he was going to take a lot of calls on that, so maybe someone would have brought it up. | ||
| So we'll check back in on Monday on that. | ||
| We might see you on Monday. | ||
| As for now, it's just a weird show. | ||
| But we're going to get down to business on that here in a moment. | ||
| But before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| That's a great idea. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, unbelievably, this podcast helps my anxiety. | ||
| So thank you very much, Dan and Jordan. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Next, thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| Next, the big guy Ryback's little buddy Noah. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Cenobite supplement salesman. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| And in your mRNA, melting your genes. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And we had a technocrat at the mix, Jordan. | ||
| So, trans rights or human rights, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| I have risen above my enemies. | ||
| I might quit tomorrow, actually. | ||
| I'm just going to take a little break, you know. | ||
| A little bricky for me. | ||
| And then we're going to come back. | ||
| And I'm going to start the show over. | ||
| But I'm the devil! | ||
| I've got to be taken off the air! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| I've got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit! | ||
| Maybe today should be my last broadcast. | ||
| Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. | ||
| Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. | ||
| That's really what I want to do. | ||
| I never want to come back here again. | ||
| I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. | ||
| I'll be better tomorrow. | ||
| He's not. | ||
| Nor shall he ever be. | ||
| I doubt it. | ||
| So, I think one of the big takeaways that people had from these texts that came out, because we've got to talk about this a little bit at least, is the idea that he asked for a sucky. | ||
| That is... | ||
| And I think that that would not be... | ||
| It's kind of gross. | ||
| I think a lot of people took that as gross. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But... | ||
| It would not really matter, except for the breakies and stackies. | ||
| It seems like just something he does. | ||
| Do you know what's strange about it? | ||
| It's an infantilizing of language. | ||
| I mean, it is borderline Australian. | ||
| I don't know if you've heard Australian people shorten words, but it's always a shorter version of it. | ||
| If you have a knife, it's a knifey. | ||
| That's just the way it works in Australia. | ||
| We have a lot of Australian listeners. | ||
| Do you remember when I mispronounced quokka? | ||
| They will all confirm that Australians add E to the end of a lot of words. | ||
| For fun. | ||
| This is a thing! | ||
| Sound off, New South Wales! | ||
| Sound off! | ||
| It's a weird fact, I know! | ||
| That's a knifey! | ||
| So, I have written some prepared thoughts. | ||
| About this. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because... | ||
| Your prepared statement. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, something that's an element of my current life that I could never have predicted a mere five years ago is that I'm frequently in a position where I know a lot more than I can reveal. | ||
| I feel privileged that I've achieved some kind of a place in this world, and I always go out of my way to respect privacy and non-disclosure. | ||
| For example, I flew to Austin to sit in on the Alex and Daria depositions in early December 2021, and no one other than a few private friends knew that happened until late. | ||
| January 2022 when we covered it on the depositions on the podcast once they were released. | ||
| Private friends and then me, too. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Business associates. | ||
| For two months, we gave no indication that I'd taken a trip across the country and was in the same room as Alex himself. | ||
| At that time, I knew that Daria had said that spreading conspiracies that Sandy Hook victims were still alive might be a generous act and could provide the parents with some hope. | ||
| I knew that. | ||
| You can't imagine. | ||
| How hard it was for me not to talk about that. | ||
| You didn't even tell that to me in private, and that would have made us giggle for eternal. | ||
| And it's so relevant to stuff. | ||
| It seems like, ah, I gotta talk about this. | ||
| Everything so much. | ||
| And, you know, zip it. | ||
| And yet, still, you didn't. | ||
| I say all this as an intro to explaining that I've known this SPLC article was gonna come out. | ||
| I'd wrestled with how I was gonna address this when it did come out, and I feel like the only way to navigate this is to be as transparent as I can be and give some sincere opinions. | ||
| I've also reviewed all the texts, and I have a lot of thoughts about them, which we can start to get into now a little bit. | ||
| When I first reviewed them, which I did as a part of my role as the consulting expert Lin-Louis case, it really hurt. | ||
| I approached the prospect of this level of access to inside information to be a goldmine, and I reveled at what I might learn about this con man that I've studied for years, and I would be lying if I said that there wasn't some level of giddiness in me as I look, oh my god. | ||
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As As I read through them, so much of it is pretty personal stuff, and it really fucking bummed me out. | |
| For one, it validated a portrait of Alex that's pretty obvious if you listen to his show critically at all, and it was a little deflating to realize that he's basically as much of a mope as he seems to be. | ||
| But even beyond that, there's some real pathos and complicated feelings that come up when you peek into the inner workings of a monster's life, and that's the work for biographers, which I'm not at this point, not yet. | ||
| After reviewing the text, it became difficult for me to do my normal work for a bit. | ||
| I've always tried to make an exercise of practicing abstract empathy for Alex in as much as it's important to recognize his personhood. | ||
| I would add radical abstract empathy. | ||
| I falter. | ||
| I'll give you that one. | ||
| I try to respect and understand that he is a person as opposed to like some super villain mastermind. | ||
| Seeing the personhood laid bare in a context where Alex felt a reasonable expectation of privacy was a little bit complicated. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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The feelings of and I'm not going to get into specifics or detail. | |
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Alex's mysterious revealed text. | ||
| People think the Death Star blueprint is going to be in there, and they're going to be disappointed if they think that. | ||
| Oh, he was behind January 6th the whole time! | ||
| Sorry, this isn't Scooby-Doo. | ||
| This isn't Scooby-Doo. | ||
| However, there are things that I'm excited to be able to talk about because they do directly intersect with our work. | ||
| As a courtesy to everyone involved, I'm not going to talk about any of those things until the SPLC does or until their series is over because I do think that they're going to get to them in later installments. | ||
| Full disclosure, I was initially involved in that project as a third party along with Michael and Megan. | ||
| I was approached under the understanding that the project would not be about Alex's personal life and would focus on some of the more important, though admittedly less attention-grabbing aspects of information in the texts. | ||
| Over the course of my time working on the project, it didn't feel like this was the direction that things were going, and I decided to quit. | ||
| There are many aspects of this that I'm not going to discuss and will remain private, but I ultimately... | ||
| We didn't feel like this was something I cannot disclose in good conscience. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| This is a gigantic story about Alex Jones, the person who I've studied and commented on for the past six years, so ignoring it doesn't feel like an option, and covering it while not revealing my involvement also feels like it would be lying to the audience, even if only by omission. | ||
| On a fundamental level, my disagreement with the piece was that it... | ||
| As it was planned, which is reflected in the form it's been released in, is the rumination on Alex's private life in ways that I don't feel are productive. | ||
| Or even at times are self-defeating. | ||
| I'd like to go through a couple of these dynamics in detail to explain my decision. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| One of the topics that's covered in great detail in the article is the subject of Alex's marriage and the rockiness that the texts imply. | ||
| No matter what you do, you will never get an accurate picture of someone's personal relationship with someone they're in an intimate relationship with from an incomplete series of text messages. | ||
| And it's my feeling that you shouldn't try. | ||
| I'm not saying that the stuff in there should just be ignored, because there's clear indications that Alex seems to be engaging in really destructive behavior, like what appears to be stalking, and that's a serious matter. | ||
| I just don't know if it's a matter of primary importance to a piece about him. | ||
| It might be more relevant to law enforcement, quite frankly, than the reading audience. | ||
| There's another issue that dipping into this territory introduces, and that's a matter of completeness. | ||
| I can say that the picture that's painted in the article is fair in as much as it reflects the texts, but it also doesn't include a ton of other context from texts. | ||
| There's a selectiveness to what's being covered, which is always going to be an angle for possible criticism by someone like Alex when you're addressing his personal life. | ||
| Case in point, the SPLC article, it says that Alex's wife mentions that they should get divorced six times in the text, which is true. | ||
| But the texts also include Alex saying that multiple times himself. | ||
| When you introduce the notion that she wanted a divorce at times, It comes an omission to not also mention that he did. | ||
| They have a chaotic, rocky relationship. | ||
| That much is true, for sure, based on the picture you get. | ||
| But they also send each other sweet messages and have clearly inside jokes that none of us could possibly understand. | ||
| It was my personal opinion that it's possible to understand and recognize that Alex is most likely a very abusive asshole, and also think that it's really shitty to publish messages where the only news value is to demonstrate that a married couple are probably cheating on each other and have fights. | ||
| The second matter is the alcoholism. | ||
| This is an interesting question because it straddles the line between things that are already pretty public and things that are really sad and private. | ||
| Alex is already very obviously a person who struggles with drinking. | ||
| He's said as much on air. | ||
| He's been on air very drunk way more than once. | ||
| He's claimed that he was drunk on air when he defamed Sandy Hook families, and that video surveillance of him drinking at the office was leaked a few months back. | ||
| I think that this is a case where it does seem relevant that Alex is having people fetch him vodka during the time when he's on air, often before noon. | ||
| But here's the twist. | ||
| I checked the shows from the days in the text where he's requesting booze, and he seems totally normal. | ||
| Those aren't days where he was clearly drunk or having huge outbursts on air, and I thought that was pretty weird. | ||
| I thought, like, for sure, here's where we find a drunk episode. | ||
| He's probably drunk, but he's just maintaining, or whatever. | ||
| Seems weird that you wouldn't also have that. | ||
| Like, if you had a text on a day, you'd think that the day was important, so you might add the cross-reference. | ||
| You know, whatever. | ||
| But nothing happened on the show! | ||
| See? | ||
| He's drunk, but he's drunk in the way, like, maybe someone who just needs a fix. | ||
| Some context might work. | ||
| I feel like the conversation about his arrest for driving impaired and the way that alcohol intersects with what he puts out into the world is totally fine. | ||
| And some of the texts really do help illustrate that. | ||
| The problem is that this problem with alcohol extends into his personal life. | ||
| So if you're covering his personal life, it's pretty difficult to disaggregate that from the conversation. | ||
| I don't know how to do this, and I don't necessarily think the article does a terrible job, but at times, it's hard not to feel like you're wallowing in Alex's misery, and I don't know if that's necessary. | ||
| It made me feel uncomfortable. | ||
| The last thing I want to touch on is the pornography section, which was the reason I left the project. | ||
| It was an impasse that we couldn't get around, and I felt that I couldn't be involved. | ||
| Alex sending his wife porn links while being a public opponent of porn is pretty hypocritical, but there's also nothing wrong with sending your spouse links to porno that they're clearly fine with receiving. | ||
| The problem is the on-show message, and the illustration that the messenger doesn't live up to the prescription his message is sending doesn't help make that point. | ||
| The fomenting conspiracies about pornography and demonizing sex workers is the problem. | ||
| Sending porn privately is not. | ||
| By connecting these two things and making a critique that appears to hinge on that hypocrisy, it does seem to imply that if Alex didn't send his wife porn, he'd be in good standing to make the arguments that he does, and I don't buy into that. | ||
| I can understand critiques that this is newsworthy, and I disagree, but we can agree to disagree on this. | ||
| On the other hand, the rest of that section is unacceptable for me. | ||
| The final paragraph is a clear attempt to imply that Alex is bisexual or has bisexual leanings. | ||
| For anyone who hasn't read the article, I will just read you that paragraph. | ||
| Quote, The text Tatewatch reviewed further reinforced the likelihood that the Infowars host demonstrates different views on sexuality in his personal life than he professes on his notoriously bigoted show. | ||
| In addition to viewing pornographic material involving group sex, his wife sending Jones a picture of a black man's erection in the text, There are no women in the photo. | ||
| Jones and his wife also exchange messages expressing favorable views about bisexuality. | ||
| On February 1st, 2020, Erica Wolfe-Jones texts her husband, you be bi. | ||
| It was and is my opinion that the source material doesn't justify this coverage. | ||
| Viewing group sex-related porno doesn't implicate your sexuality at all, and the texts referenced about him and his wife could easily be inside jokes. | ||
| Sending a picture of a dick doesn't mean anything, and they fight so much that discerning the context is impossible. | ||
| And his wife does say you be bi, but who knows what that means, and it comes in response to Alex telling her you be ho. | ||
| The language and the UB construction makes me strongly suspect that this is an inside joke between married people. | ||
| As another point, his wife says, I'm a bisexual elf, followed by an emoji that looks like a superhero with a mask. | ||
| She's clearly not saying this sincerely, since she's responding to Alex texting an article from Daily Wire about Mark Ronson identifying as sapiosexual. | ||
| She is also not an elf. | ||
| No. | ||
| That is confirmed as of press time. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They're making fun of Mark Ronson's identity, and I wouldn't be too surprised if the UB-Bi has something similar to it. | ||
| But from the material that exists, you can't possibly know the context of any of this. | ||
| It's my belief that this kind of coverage is not just sloppy, it's also dangerous. | ||
| At best, you could say that the article is trying to plant a seed that while Alex is anti-LGBTQ on-air, he's bisexual off-air. | ||
| This again runs into the problem that I mentioned earlier, where being bisexual is completely fine, and his on-air positions aren't made any better or worse based on his attractions. | ||
| I don't know what Alex's sexuality is or what he's into, and to be perfectly honest, I don't care. | ||
| That's his business, and I don't think I understand it any better from having reviewed the texts. | ||
| I have a very strongly held belief that this doesn't need to be in the article, nor any piece that's meant to be critical of Alex. | ||
| If you're producing something that is critical of Alex, the best-case scenario that you could be hoping for is to inform people about him, and that new awareness diminishes their respect for him. | ||
| If you're going to get anyone who likes Alex to have second thoughts about him based on this, you're not actually helping. | ||
| You're getting them to direct their homogies, In addition to everyone else. | ||
| You're also not informing... | ||
| Non-Infowars supporting people because this argument is based on such flimsy evidence that it doesn't support its own weight. | ||
| You're liable to get people jumping to the assumption that Alex is secretly gay or bi, and you run the risk of feeding into the trope that homophobes are just secretly angry about themselves being gay. | ||
| In the process, you weaken the actual criticism of Alex's rhetoric, which doesn't need to touch on his personal life to demolish and to have a strong critique of. | ||
| People can have differing feelings about my perspective on that, but we do need to stress that the basis for this paragraph's inclusion in the article is not solid. | ||
| And I understand that the article didn't actually claim that Alex was bi, but I think everyone here is an adult and we recognize the clear implication. | ||
| And people on Twitter certainly did. | ||
| And in the comments section of articles about this, you can get the sense. | ||
| Here's just a couple you can find very easily on Mediaite's article about this. | ||
| The Frogs Turned Me Bi, Alex Jones. | ||
| Alex Jones being into black guys wasn't on my 2023 bingo card, and a ton of variations of that same joke. | ||
| When's Jones gonna elope with Santos? | ||
| People got the message. | ||
| This problem was never going to be manageable, because the second installment of this article includes Jacob Engels, who's a proud boy, who is an associate of Roger Stone's, and he's unnecessarily identified as a gay man three times in the article, presumably to justify this paragraph. | ||
| Quote, Engels addressed revelations about Alex Jones' personal life that appeared in part one of this series saying, quote, I don't think there's anything wrong with being a red-blooded American male. | ||
| That's what Alex is. | ||
| About how he navigates the far right as a gay man, Engels said, quote, I try to live my life very quietly when it comes to my sexuality. | ||
| I try to keep that to myself and not hoist that upon others. | ||
| They were able to reach Engels and get comment from him, and presumably one of the questions they asked him was about Alex's sexuality, which is a strong indication about the interest and the direction of that coverage. | ||
| Again, this question is being posed to Engels. | ||
| It's predicated on some porn links, a picture of a dick, and almost certainly a joke between Alex and his wife. | ||
| So, I wanted to... | ||
| I know maybe that was too much, but... | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| Dan, you know my favorite you is righteously angry. | ||
| Remember the Greenwald episode? | ||
| I like a good speech. | ||
| I don't want to shit too much on things, but I know that there are just questions. | ||
| This exists. | ||
| This was released. | ||
| Obviously, there's a bunch of people who tweeted at me, sent me messages, people saying, I hope they consulted Dan on this. | ||
| There's going to be that question asked. | ||
| And so, I feel like it would be lying for me to say no. | ||
| I wasn't involved at all. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| And so, I say yes. | ||
| Why aren't you on the article? | ||
| That introduces that new question. | ||
| And so, I quit. | ||
| That is the answer to that. | ||
| Why did you quit? | ||
| And I wanted to be as transparent as possible without... | ||
| You know, impugning people at the SPLC or being like, ah, this is all fucking bullshit. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But that is an impasse for me. | ||
| That was something that we did not see eye to eye on. | ||
| I still definitely don't think was appropriate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was not really involved in the second article. | ||
| Maybe a tiny bit. | ||
| I wasn't around when drafts of that were being... | ||
| So my involvement sort of ended with... | ||
| And I do have the utmost faith that they are going to cover more relevant things and more substantial things that aren't just his personal life in later installments. | ||
| But I wrestled and struggled with... | ||
| Do I take my name off the first one and then try to stay involved in the other ones? | ||
| What message does that send? | ||
| Can I still be involved and sort of extricate myself? | ||
| And I felt like I couldn't. | ||
| I felt like I couldn't get around that. | ||
| And I also felt like it would be something that would... | ||
| The audience, maybe quite rightly, would have concerns about. | ||
| Me being someone who has been fairly against covering Alex's personal life in the past, we do our best to avoid unnecessarily bringing up stuff that is kind of like, eh, that's not... | ||
| I felt like the audience might feel betrayed by that, and I think that would be fair of them to feel. | ||
| And so, I don't know. | ||
| This is tough. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| I mean, I realize I think that people would be interested in my feelings about it. | ||
| I will say this, all right? | ||
| If Michael would like to know further thoughts, that'd be great. | ||
| We can talk. | ||
| Otherwise, I think all I have to say, and the only important thing... | ||
| To me, like, when I go through all of the different thoughts that I've had about it. | ||
| I was hoping your joke was going to be, I asked my wife for a sucky. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Really take the tension out of the air. | ||
| But I mean if you want to talk about that if you've ever texted your wife like I want to have sex and then you're judging for that then go fuck yourself. | ||
| But but but but but but but but but but whatever. | ||
| I'm not going to get it. | ||
| I'm not going to get into it. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Because, because, for all the things that I could say, The meaningful thing that occurred was you left the project. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So after that, I really don't feel like, one, we have any involvement or any responsibility to respond. | ||
| Yeah, not really. | ||
| The response was you left, and I think that says everything you need to know. | ||
| Well, and the stuff that I think is definitely more relevant to our show and we'll have more conversation on the show. | ||
| We'll be in the later articles that they have. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| We'll discuss those things as it relates then, but for now, there's not a whole lot related to his personal life that I feel is relevant, and I think a lot of the stuff in the second article is stuff we already have... | ||
| I don't know if the texts necessarily bring much to light on that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, quite frankly, a big portion of the second article is pieces of a transcript of that Gavin McGinnis show. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| The one we covered extensively? | ||
| Yeah, we already did. | ||
| We already got that one. | ||
| Good work! | ||
| Great job! | ||
| Anyway... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I kind of thought Alex would respond to this because he's petty. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| And it's the SBLC, right? | ||
| Come on! | ||
| It's the SBLC! | ||
| So they released the first part after he would have been off air on, what would that be, Wednesday. | ||
| So there wasn't any time for him to respond. | ||
| There wasn't a special report up on band.video. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| If he yelled into the woods, I did not get a recording of that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But yeah, so I thought that the second Thursday show would be the first opportunity we really have. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| And boy, it's disappointing. | ||
| But it's... | ||
| It's still a show! | ||
| It's appointing for other reasons. | ||
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Aha! | |
| Because it's not a terrible episode for us to talk about. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Just there isn't any of this in it. | ||
| What an us circumstance to arise. | ||
| So here is an out-of-context drop from today's show. | ||
| A lot of leftists like Sean Penn and others are calling for nuclear war like it's funny. | ||
| Don't you love how suddenly the biggest leftist anti-war, anti-West military people now want a nuclear war? | ||
| They're idiots. | ||
|
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Yeah, Spicoli. | |
| All right, sir. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| Thanks for the call. | ||
| Spicoli! | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
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Classic Spicoli wanting a nuclear war. | |
| Love it. | ||
| That's why you just can't move. | ||
| You can't transition from acting to whatever. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| Because you're Spicoli now. | ||
| Spicoli! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| So the first hour of the show is fairly boring. | ||
| Anti-trans agitation and what have you. | ||
| So we're going to jump in in the second hour. | ||
| And I was pretty shocked by this in the second hour. | ||
| There's a Greg Reese report, and I often ignore these because his voice is droning and his work is subpar. | ||
| But this is, like, legit shocking. | ||
|
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Many Americans refuse to recognize the endless crimes against humanity being committed by our own government. | |
| And so, by default, they blindly support it. | ||
| Even when the American government is caught funding bioweapons labs around the Russian border, many Americans turn a blind eye. | ||
| And so now the majority of the world stands with Russia and see America as the main threat against humanity. | ||
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A new video produced by Russia. | |
| Russia's Wagner private military is now recruiting Americans to join them in their fight against the United States, pointing out how the United States has become a force of evil and is no longer what our forefathers intended it to be. | ||
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You were a hero to your country, given your best years in the army. | |
| You dreamed of defeating evil. | ||
| You dreamed of doing much to make America great again. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan. | ||
| Did Greg Reese just make a Russian army recruitment video for American people? | ||
| Well, it's even worse than that because the Wagner group, Wagner group, they are not the Russian military. | ||
| They're a private army. | ||
| They're just a Nazi army. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Wagner group. | ||
| The literal Wagner, Wagner-ing Wagner group. | ||
| Yeah, it's kind of strange for someone in Alex's position or Infowars staff's position where they've spent so much time screaming. | ||
| About the Azov Battalion to now be playing a recruitment ad in a pretty complimentary and agreeing light for the Wagner group. | ||
| That's strange. | ||
| That is truly a new twist on Starship Troopers, you know? | ||
| You know those recruitment videos where it's like, the bugs are killing us all! | ||
| What if you were in fucking Buenos Aires listening to somebody be like... | ||
| Dude, you gotta join those bugs. | ||
| Did you see that brain bug? | ||
| That brain bug is revealing that we're not the humans we used to be. | ||
| We're just shitty brain bugs. | ||
| Let me play you this bug ad. | ||
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I know! | |
| It's a bug ad! | ||
| Sorry, neighbors. | ||
| See, this is great that we've gotten to the point where you can neighbors yourself. | ||
| I can neighbors myself. | ||
| I've finally grown six years later. | ||
| Yeah, I thought this was... | ||
| I mean, obviously they're always pretty supportive of Russia and Putin, but like... | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| This is another level. | ||
| And also, it needs to be said, I couldn't find direct confirmation that this ad actually was made by the Wagner Group. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But there are people, experts have said, like, this seems like something they would make. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But there wasn't authentication as of the time that I was looking into it. | ||
| What's fascinating about that... | ||
| Is that even if it was fake, the moment Greg Reese included it in a real ad to join the military, it is now a real ad to join the military. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| That's the power. | ||
| Regardless of the authenticity of the video itself, Reese's message is the same. | ||
| Is the same. | ||
| And that's fucked up. | ||
| And it's real. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, he plays the ad. | ||
| That's a long way to go from support Putin for being a male chauvinist to you should probably die in a country you've never been to before. | ||
| Fighting side by side with it. | ||
| Nazi-adjacent militia. | ||
| Yeah, join the Nazis! | ||
| So anyway, here, they play the whole report. | ||
| Here's the end of it and Alex's take. | ||
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You begin to realize that this is the site of revolt. | |
| This is not the America the Founding Fathers dreamed of. | ||
| It has become the focus of the evil that is destroying the whole world. | ||
| And today, the only country fighting this evil is Russia. | ||
| Well, now that I've heard the song, I do kind of want to join the Nazis. | ||
| This is also a car commercial. | ||
| They realize that, right? | ||
|
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Wait. | |
| If Americans were as righteous as we think we are, then we would not stand for such a corrupt government wreaking havoc on the rest of the world in our name. | ||
|
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Instead, most of us are content fighting each other and turning a blind eye. | |
| Reporting for Infowars, this is Greg Reese. | ||
| Powerful report. | ||
| We're going to be getting to that when we come back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| I'm not sure he ever does really get back to it, but I don't know what's powerful about that. | ||
| It's really even bizarre if you try to track the thought. | ||
| Greg Reese, I guess, if he wants to make a video about how our government is complicit in a lot of really horrible things. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And maybe there is some ways that you can withdraw support. | ||
| Like, there are people who are conscientious objectors to war whenever there's a draft. | ||
| There are people who are principled tax protesters who, you know, make a point of refusing to pay taxes because it goes to funding the war machines and what have you. | ||
| There are people like that. | ||
| And he could, you know, express some of that sentiment. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Doesn't make sense to include the Wagner Group video. | ||
| That seems like a far bridge. | ||
| I mean, what's odd about it is I kind of think that that would be, if you transcribed it, it wouldn't be too much different from a pamphlet for the Bolshevik Revolution. | ||
| It's legitimately like, hey, come on now. | ||
| Let's go help Russia solve its problems. | ||
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Wow. | |
| I don't think that there is much hope of... | ||
| I think that there's just a demotivating desire in this. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| It's a weird choice on Greg's part. | ||
| It's a weird choice on Alex's part. | ||
| I can see, I can see... | ||
| Goddammit, why do people call me a Russian agent? | ||
| Many of the people who formed the foreign battalion in Ukraine, you know, like the French Foreign Legion, if you will, back in the day, although not a fan of them. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| Because they feel like they are fighting for a cause worth dying for. | ||
| What I don't get is the idea that you would go join the Nazis because Greg Reese told you it was a good idea. | ||
| Well, and he doesn't even bring up their connections. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| That one, if you do that, you're going to do whatever you want no matter what. | ||
| That has nothing to do with Greg Reese, ultimately, I feel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex has, obviously, a little bit more trans attacking panic and LGBTQ anti-sentiment just in general. | ||
| Well, in some ways, maybe he is responding to the... | ||
| No, he's mad about a video from a North Carolina school where a non-binary teacher was speaking to preschool students with a puppet. | ||
| That was a non-binary puppet. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And the kids seem to understand the concept. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And this is infuriating to Alex. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| Even a child can understand this thing that blows my brain up? | ||
| Well, no, because they only understand it because they've been brainwashed. | ||
| See, there we go. | ||
| As opposed to I can't understand it because I've been brainwashed. | ||
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Ah. | |
| Ah. | ||
| So that'll come up later, but it does inform some of Alex's... | ||
| Basically, he's still on the Purple Penguin shit. | ||
| Sounds right. | ||
| And then you can't say you're a mother or a father. | ||
| You can't say you're a boy or girl. | ||
| You can't on literature in Canada and in the UK and many other countries say mother or father on the first grade entrance form. | ||
| You don't have rights to say you're a man or woman, but everything else has a right. | ||
| Computers have rights. | ||
| Robots have rights. | ||
| Clones have rights. | ||
| Replicants have rights. | ||
| Do clones have rights? | ||
| And remember, it's all controlled by the globalists, by the deep state. | ||
| Your phone calls are a few minutes away. | ||
| I'm going right to the afterbreak. | ||
| Going right to calls. | ||
| Strong disagree. | ||
| Of all the things that replicants have, rights is not one of them. | ||
| Now, clones? | ||
| I don't know if we have clones here. | ||
| Do we have replicants? | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| Have you never done the test? | ||
| Oh shit, I've never done the Harrison Ford test with you. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| I forgot the test. | ||
| That means you're a replicant. | ||
| I know! | ||
| Harrison Ford was a replicant. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Purple penguin shit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But then also, just, we're gonna get to calls. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And that's laying the table. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| So we're not gonna get to calls. | ||
| I need other people to hate trans people, too. | ||
| Right, and I would like them to throw out some bullshit that I can respond to. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Let me riff a little bit. | ||
| But we're not gonna get to calls, because Alex gets preoccupied with how, like, we've gotta support small businesses. | ||
| Okay, and? | ||
| Well, because big businesses are controlled by the globalists. | ||
| True. | ||
| I like big box stores. | ||
| I like fancy hotels. | ||
| I like flying first class on an airplane. | ||
| But at the end of the day, all of those big corporate things are predatory and are controlled by the globalists and are there to target humanity. | ||
| And so I am really now, when I travel or go places, I try to go to the small place, the little place, the privately owned place. | ||
| I try to go always to small restaurants. | ||
| I never, never... | ||
| Go to big chains anymore unless I'm in an airport and have to. | ||
| Because they're owned by globalists, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| And I'll have friends in town. | ||
| They go, hey, I'm staying at the Four Seasons. | ||
| Come down, let's have dinner. | ||
| And I go, I'm not going to eat at the Four Seasons. | ||
| And they say, why? | ||
| I go, it's owned by Bill Gates. | ||
| Man, how do you know that? | ||
| They go, well, it is owned by Bill Gates. | ||
| And that's just it. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
| I mean, I'm tempted to say however you get there. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I feel the same way. | ||
| I don't stay at fancy hotels when I travel. | ||
| I don't eat at big restaurants whenever I travel. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| I can't afford it. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| Well, I mean, it wasn't a fancy hotel, but we stayed at a chain when we were in Austin. | ||
| Well... | ||
| That's the last time I know you were in a hotel. | ||
| I mean, that is a change. | ||
| It wasn't super fancy, but it wasn't corporate. | ||
| It was corporate, true. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I agree, though. | ||
| In terms of like, okay, well, you're supporting small business, good for you. | ||
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Yeah, good for you. | |
| But you're probably going to support the Wagner group of small businesses. | ||
| See, that's kind of, you know what? | ||
| You seem angry about your support of small businesses. | ||
| That's a little bit like, you know, hey, like if you're ordering food. | ||
| And the place you're ordering from has their own website, and you can order from there, and you order from there, they get like 40% more out of your order than if you order through Grubhub. | ||
| So do that if you can, right? | ||
| That makes perfect sense. | ||
| I'm with you. | ||
| Not because Grubhub are the globalists working with the devil. | ||
| Counterpoint. | ||
| Grubhub are the globalists and they're working for the devil. | ||
| Wow, you convinced me. | ||
| So, it really isn't about small business versus big business. | ||
| The globalists being in charge. | ||
| Alex wants to return to the earth. | ||
| That was a spit take. | ||
| You got me. | ||
| You got me on return to the earth. | ||
| No, you got me. | ||
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You spit on me. | |
| I did not spit on me. | ||
| Yes, you did. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
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I'm sorry. | |
| I mean, it was only a little bit. | ||
| That was a legit spit take. | ||
| He wants to get back to the soil. | ||
| He wants to... | ||
| He's going to get back into agriculture, like his dad is going to also. | ||
| What? | ||
| Well, guess what my dad's doing. | ||
| No, he's not. | ||
| He's got like 100 cattle out there just for the tax exemption. | ||
| He's going back into cattle production, back into a bunch of other production. | ||
| He's planting a Christmas tree farm. | ||
| They're putting in a bunch of stuff. | ||
| And my dad knows it's the thing to do, and we're going back into agriculture. | ||
| Balls to the walls. | ||
| And because I'm not just going to sit here and run my mouth about how you need to do it, and I'm not doing it. | ||
| I am doing it. | ||
| And so, it's what you're meant to do. | ||
| We need to do it. | ||
| Pronto. | ||
| Alright, I'm going to shut up now, Jones. | ||
| I'm going to go to your calls. | ||
| But they're cutting off our damn energy. | ||
| They're cutting off our food. | ||
| The answer is buy local food, support local farmers, and the Amish and the Mennonites are the light to carry us out of this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't think the Amish or Mennonite want anything to do with you. | ||
| I mean, I will say there's a certain sense of irony for a racist propagandist to suddenly become a sharecropper. | ||
| That's interesting, at least. | ||
| There's a certain difference. | ||
| I mean, look, you only have yourself to blame for not going to calls. | ||
| You don't need to be so mad. | ||
| I know that there is a perception. | ||
| We talked about this, I think, on the last episode or recently. | ||
| There's a perception about Amish and Mennonite that I really don't think Alex understands. | ||
| And also, not all Mennonites live in rural areas. | ||
| My parents are Mennonites. | ||
| They lived in Austin, and they now live in Kansas City. | ||
| They live in the city. | ||
| I think he's trying, I think what he's doing is he's mistaking the popular, like, okay, Amish is a synonym for Luddite. | ||
| You know, where it's like somebody who eschews technology. | ||
| And is a separatist. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| Lives in a self-governed enclave. | ||
| That's what he wants. | ||
| What he's really describing are sovereign citizens. | ||
| He wants compounds. | ||
| That's what he wants. | ||
| And to him, Amish and Mennonite is the code for that, basically. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he wants the soil. | ||
| So everyone's got to get out of the cities. | ||
| Out of the cities. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| It's going to get very, very mad very, very quickly, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Get out of the cities. | ||
| Get out of the cities. | ||
| For those of us that will rear guard for everybody else, I'll still be in these suspects of crime and homelessness. | ||
| You get out. | ||
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I am going to enjoy Benihana. | |
| You can be living in a shack. | ||
| And if you got to, work in town at the gas station and have a garden and learn how to do it and have a couple cows and get into it and be poor. | ||
| And you'll be richer than the richest person living in some high-rise hill pit with 5G flooding your body. | ||
| Or at a hibachi. | ||
| I'm ranting. | ||
| All right, we're going to Chris in Kentucky, everybody else. | ||
| Chris in Kentucky, thanks for holding her on the air. | ||
| Now you guys need to go live in a shack and maybe the rural gas station economy is going to thrive in this circumstance. | ||
| They're going to need to create a ton of those jobs for people to be able to live in their shack. | ||
| Now I, Alex Jones, am going to stay in the city and be a fucking millionaire and really enjoy my private jet. | ||
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Oh, maybe I'll gas up at your local gas station with my private jet. | |
| I do love a good get out of the cities. | ||
| I'm going to stay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because they're fucking great, honestly. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Cities are way better. | ||
| There's a lot to enjoy, and Alex is a rank materialist. | ||
| There's an Ethiopian restaurant that I'm not going to get at my rural gas station. | ||
| I don't think that's what Alex is concerned with. | ||
| No, obviously. | ||
| Some of the other amenities, certainly, I think he's a fan of. | ||
| Yeah, you know, I have that drive to get out of the city myself, too. | ||
| But it's not for conspiracy reasons. | ||
| It's kind of like the woods. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like nature. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That's a little different. | ||
| That's just... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, and I'm a city boy. | ||
| Listen, I grew up in a small rural town. | ||
| I've been to that rural gas station. | ||
| I've worked at a Casey's, my man. | ||
| Sure, see, this is why we work. | ||
| Never going back. | ||
| This is why this works. | ||
| Never going back. | ||
| City and country. | ||
| Meanwhile, Columbia, Missouri isn't the smallest town in the world, but a lot of places on the outskirts of it, it's very close to rural communities. | ||
| And I had a lot of friends who lived in places that were much smaller. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I yearn for a little bit of that back. | ||
| Here's what I will say. | ||
| I will say this to anyone who wants to move out of the city. | ||
| If you, at one point in time, alright? | ||
| Casey's Pizza, which is fairly good. | ||
| It's not bad. | ||
| It's not bad. | ||
| But their boxes have little coupons on them that you have to cut out of the cardboard, right? | ||
| And then, if you have ten of those, you get a free pizza, and you put it in a rubber band. | ||
| Now, the largest number of those that I have redeemed at one time was 50. Have you ever eaten 50 pizzas to get five free pizzas? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's your life. | ||
| That's your life, man. | ||
| It's not terrible. | ||
| Forever. | ||
| There's worse fates. | ||
| There are worse fates. | ||
| Here's what I would say to anybody who wants to get out of the city. | ||
| It's your prerogative. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Whatever you want. | ||
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Eat Casey. | |
| If you can. | ||
| Casey's pizza is pretty good. | ||
| Casey's pizza is there for you. | ||
| It's not bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, Alex takes this call, and he is a farmer, and he thinks that farmers will need to save the world. | ||
|
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We, as farmers, have to realize that... | |
| We're going to be the people that are going to support our communities when CBDCs come along and people start falling off the system. | ||
| We need to be prepared. | ||
| I'm trying to prepare. | ||
| I think CBDCs is the first thing that's imminent. | ||
| They're already practicing. | ||
| It's gonna happen. | ||
| It's reduction order. | ||
| Get prepared to have food for your community, okay? | ||
| Try to create. | ||
| A local food system that is self-sustained. | ||
| And what I mean by that is get an oil seed press. | ||
| Press the oil out of your soybeans. | ||
| You can run your diesel equipment off of it. | ||
| Get some solar panels. | ||
| Get yourself in a position where you can self-sustain the system. | ||
| Buy some non-GMO seeds that you can save and replant. | ||
| Look at corn that is open-pollinated, not hybrid. | ||
| It's not going to yield as much. | ||
| Chris, don't hang up. | ||
| I'm going to come right back to you, and I promise, folks, I'm going to stop ranting. | ||
| But I want you to be able to finish your points. | ||
| Because, folks, what happens is it's happening everywhere if you still live in the city. | ||
| Everybody's smart moving back to the country, and you don't have to produce everything yourself. | ||
| Your neighbors produce one thing, and you start trading it. | ||
| Everybody gets better and better at everything, and pretty soon you're back to being self-sufficient. | ||
| We've got to do it now. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| Stay with us. | ||
| Barter, barter. | ||
| I think that that caller has some decent advice. | ||
| If you're interested in trying to be self-sustainable, there are ways that you can explore that stuff and maybe it's uplifting to your life and what have you. | ||
| It reminds me greatly of when Ken Kesey got out of jail. | ||
| He moved back to Oregon, where he and his family and some of the other merry pranksters had put together a little compound of their own, if you will, where they tried to be self-sustainable, they had cattle, they grew their own food, all of that stuff. | ||
| And as a great writer, he was very blunt about it being not romantic at all. | ||
| It is incredibly hard, and it's extremely dangerous if you're inexperienced. | ||
| And if you do it, it doesn't make you a better person. | ||
| That's just not how it works. | ||
|
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Sure. | |
| If you're an asshole farmer when you go into farming, you're going to be an asshole farmer when you leave farming. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah, but I think that there's one thing I noted about this caller. | ||
| And I think that anything based out of fear is kind of... | ||
| It's a dangerous motivation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I think that he's closer to a prepper who is based in wanting to help people than a prepper who wants to, I don't know, scavenge and hunt other preppers for their supplies. | ||
| Totally, totally. | ||
| There is a prepping that's based on fear, and then there's a prepping that's based on being able to help people and survive. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think that those are different things. | ||
| And he sounds like he's closer to the decent side than most people in Alex's sort of world. | ||
| Which is also why Ken Kesey and his group stayed on their little compound, because that was their motivation. | ||
| Care. | ||
| Taking care of themselves. | ||
| Being self-reliant. | ||
| Being all of those things. | ||
| Their motivation was not, I'm afraid the government is coming for us. | ||
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Right. | |
| Let's get this bean press to make oil and also a billion guns. | ||
| And far more than the rest of them, Kesey had good reason to believe that the American government was after him. | ||
| Because they weren't. | ||
| So he also said that CBDCs are coming or something. | ||
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What are those? | |
| I was confused. | ||
| I had no idea. | ||
| And they don't explore it at all. | ||
| I think it's central bank digital currency. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I think that's what he meant. | ||
| That's the only thing I could come up with. | ||
| So it's like Chase Coin, that kind of idea. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, like getting rid of paper money, that's obviously a pretty big concern and fear. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah, going back to 2003. | ||
| Hey, how about that? | ||
| The more it changes, the more it stays the same. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex isn't just wanting to get back to the earth. | ||
| He also wants to, and plans to, and will. | ||
| And his dad already is, because he's got a Christmas tree farm. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| What he plans to do, and he is going to do, is start a gardening show. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And things are moving very, very quickly. | ||
| And so when I preach this stuff on air, I'm telling myself this. | ||
| In fact, I'm going to say this now. | ||
| I'm going to start doing an off-the-grid farming emergency show once a week. | ||
| I'm committed. | ||
| I'm already set up to do it. | ||
| Everything's been ready for months. | ||
| I've just been so busy dealing with a bunch of other stuff that I have not done the things I truly love, that I have passion about. | ||
| You're not going to hear me telling you, because I'm an idiot compared to my dad or my grandfather. | ||
| My mom's dad was... | ||
| You're selling your dad and grandfather too high. | ||
| He knew how to do a lot of stuff, but I just think about the men I knew that are almost all dead. | ||
| And they can literally do plumbing, do electricity, do roofing, incredible shots with a gun, great farmers. | ||
| And they can read you bedtime stories and take care of when you were sick. | ||
| And I think about those type of people, and I see what we got today, including myself, and I'm ashamed of what a stupid slob I've become and how I've let myself be positioned in this and how I raised my children in an evil city. | ||
| Now, that said, it's all in hindsight, and my children have done all right. | ||
| When you know you're wrong, and you know you've got to get out of here, I'm stuck here with the crew who I love, and this infrastructure is stuck here. | ||
| We've got to move to a town outside, Austin. | ||
| We've got to move to something leaner and meaner with the crew, but I've got to get out of here. | ||
| Rent's too high. | ||
| And, folks, you are insane if you stay in the cities. | ||
| I'm not saying pick up and just run the middle of nowhere either, but... | ||
| You've got to find those communities. | ||
| And if you're willing to work with those communities, they're willing to work with you. | ||
| And I'm telling you, this is the whole future. | ||
| And when a community knows they're under attack, and if you get people in the city council in those towns that know what's going on, we are unstoppable. | ||
| The new world order is not going to be able to come shut down our towns. | ||
| We will have our own hydroelectric. | ||
| We will have our own gas power. | ||
| We will have our own solar. | ||
| We will work together. | ||
| We're designed to do this and be self-sufficient, not be a bunch of damn jellyfish. | ||
| I think what he's describing is a plan that has not taken any shape, but I guess he's encouraging people to make a plan to go and red pill people in small towns and take over these towns and then don't secede or something? | ||
| I mean, build walls at least. | ||
| Not cooperate with taxes, probably? | ||
| I feel like what he's doing... | ||
| Is creating a scenario where people will assume they're living in a zombie apocalypse despite everything being 100% fine. | ||
| It's like that movie The Village. | ||
| It is a little bit like that movie The Village. | ||
| Can you imagine an episode of The Walking Dead? | ||
| Do you remember the beginning of The Walking Dead whenever all this stuff goes terrible and then he's riding on the horse towards the wrecked city? | ||
| And it's all dramatic. | ||
| I just remember a bunch of zombies in a city street. | ||
| I didn't watch much of that show. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| So imagine that show playing it exactly the same way but everybody's going about their day just fine. | ||
| He's going into stores and like Rummaging through shit, trying to like, no, no, no, I'm scrounging to scavenge for my family over there. | ||
| Hey, let me save this kid's life. | ||
| And the kid's like, what the fuck are you doing? | ||
| I work here, man. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| No, there's zombies coming! | ||
| I get paid minimum wage, man. | ||
| See, you lost me with the metaphor. | ||
| Maybe it's because I haven't seen The Walking Dead. | ||
| I think it's more like the village. | ||
| Well, you're not wrong. | ||
| Because you can't have the person intersecting with people who are just going about their day. | ||
| People have to be going about their day outside of the confines. | ||
| But here's the thing, though. | ||
| In his imaginary scenario, that makes sense. | ||
| No, but you've got to red pill everybody in the city. | ||
| See, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| That's the goal. | ||
| Right, but sooner or later you're going to be like, come on, let's get some fries. | ||
| Well, that's why you don't let people out. | ||
| How are you going to get fries? | ||
| There's going to be a potato embargo. | ||
| You're just not going to get fries. | ||
| You're not going to get fries in the small town. | ||
| Yeah, the New World Order is not going to send you potatoes. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Idaho is ideologically aligned with a small town. | ||
| You think there's going to be a potato pipeline between Idaho and the other enclaves around the country? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Negotiations are going to be tough. | ||
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Yep, Gale Stream 2. That's where the barter comes back in. | |
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Let's get some cheese from Wisconsin. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| They'll mail them a cow every now and again. | ||
| Alex's dad will mail a cow. | ||
| And a Christmas tree. | ||
| Endless amounts of Christmas trees. | ||
| Idaho gets free Christmas trees for life. | ||
| You'll send a cow with a Christmas tree tied to its back. | ||
| This is dumb. | ||
| Anyway, Alex is not going to make that gardening, farming show. | ||
| It's not going to happen. | ||
| But he is going to make more content, apparently. | ||
| I've always said the problem with Alex Jones is too slim a body of work. | ||
| Not enough content. | ||
| You know what the problem for our show is? | ||
| What are we going to run? | ||
| We're running out! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Actually, ironically, I am. | ||
| But it's not because of quantity. | ||
| It's quality. | ||
| Yes, that's true. | ||
| He makes a lot of it, but it all sucks. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And he's going to make more. | ||
| Great. | ||
| And it's not just the new little studio I built in my house. | ||
| It's another studio that's been built. | ||
| Where we can do roundtable discussions, everything that's even separate from InfoWars. | ||
| And that is... | ||
| Legally, in order to maintain the revenue it might be received. | ||
| And part of it will be free. | ||
| And part of it will be subscription. | ||
| And you're going to get more Alex Jones than you ever wanted. | ||
| Because I'm just going to start shooting like 10 minute videos every day. | ||
| However, it will be owned by somebody unrelated to InfoWars. | ||
| And just spill my guts to people. | ||
| And that will be uploaded every day. | ||
| There's a lot. | ||
| Like I've shot three of them this week that I haven't even given. | ||
| To our folks to get uploaded and ready. | ||
| So there's a lot of content, a lot of stuff, but it's also going to be special guests, PowerPoint analysis. | ||
| I can't imagine anyone needing any of this. | ||
| PowerPoint analysis? | ||
| I'd like to introduce Alex to the concept of diminishing returns. | ||
| I think at a certain point it's going to be oversaturated. | ||
| I think that Alex recognizes that he puts out stuff and more money comes in. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Owen, Harrison put out stuff. | ||
| Not as much money comes in. | ||
| So he needs to shoulder a lot of the burden. | ||
| He's got to do these alleged 6 p.m. shows after his show because money doesn't come in otherwise. | ||
| His dad described it as a single talent business. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so I think he thinks that, okay, if I just do this, this, this, and this, that will bring in that, that, that, and that more money. | ||
| And I think at a certain point, you're just putting shit out. | ||
| Not going to happen. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't want to put out more stuff. | ||
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I don't want to. | |
| I don't. | ||
| No one does. | ||
| Because you end up... | ||
| Okay, one of his ideas is I'm going to have a show full of callers, right? | ||
| We've been down this road so many times. | ||
| But let's assume that he does. | ||
| He's just going to get a fucking caller like this. | ||
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There's a big area that's missing in this vaccine debate. | |
| We're seeing a lot of people die, and a lot more people are going to die. | ||
| Okay? | ||
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But what's going on? | |
| We have Dr. Luke de Montagnier said this comes out of a lab. | ||
| Francis Boyle said, this comes out of a lab. | ||
| Okay, so we know it came out of a lab. | ||
| Dr. Cameron Pella says, the DOD ran this whole thing. | ||
| So we know DARPA's involved. | ||
| We know that there is a global network that's been working on this thing. | ||
| But what does it do? | ||
| It actually adds a third strand of DNA. | ||
| They're creating mutants and they know a percentage of people in any mutinogenic tests like this die. | ||
| Big, big news. | ||
| So, I mean, two people said this, so it's true. | ||
| We've proved these things. | ||
| And yeah, apparently, the vaccine is gonna add a third strand of DNA. | ||
| Trihelix! | ||
| I'm not going to lie to you. | ||
| I do find that his ability to think like that is not commendable, but like... | ||
| Man, some days I wish I could think like that. | ||
| I bet his brain is easier to navigate. | ||
| Well, imagine... | ||
| Well, Francis Boyle said it. | ||
| DeMontagne said it. | ||
| So it's true. | ||
| Like, wait, no. | ||
| Already we have a problem. | ||
| And he just keeps going. | ||
| Like, that's no problem. | ||
| But it's... | ||
| The reality is he's not believing this because DeMontagne and Francis Boyle said this. | ||
| He's saying it because he wants to believe this. | ||
| And he's justifying it by saying that these people said it who have no idea what they're talking about. | ||
| But... | ||
| I would much prefer to have Alex's brain, where it's like some guy calls in and he's like, the COVID vaccine's adding a third strand to your DNA, and he's like, yes. | ||
| You better believe it. | ||
| You better believe it. | ||
| The ability to just turn off and affirm everything, that's gotta be fun to go through life with. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Yeah, there's a certain missed opportunity if he had started at IO Theater like 20 years ago. | ||
| You know, like there is a yes and quality to him. | ||
| The ultimate scene partner. | ||
| He's got a yes and to him. | ||
| You can throw anything at him. | ||
| He doesn't have funny. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| No, but that's for the other people. | ||
| That's why you started IO. | ||
| He's there to help you build a world. | ||
| Yes, he's the ultimate glue guy. | ||
| He's like an unfunny Phil Hartman. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So the same caller believes that the ultimate goal is... | ||
| It is to turn us into batteries, because I think he just watched The Matrix. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
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6G is going to run off the human being as a battery, you know, to turn you into this, Neo. | |
| A battery. | ||
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So we become the batteries. | |
| Now we're augmented through their system. | ||
| They've generated a new strand of DNA, and down to the tubulin dimer level, within the synapses of the brain, using quantum entanglement with their fancy quantum computers. | ||
| They can control our thought processes. | ||
| You know, we think that this idea of the metaverse, Zuckerberg has failed. | ||
| Nobody's failed anything. | ||
| We are just right now starting the war. | ||
| Wait, you understand Zuckerberg failed at the metaverse? | ||
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If they have controlled these individuals that have taken these shots down to that level of perception, then they just turn it on and the metaverse happens inside of them. | |
| They don't need the technology. | ||
| They're already... | ||
| Stuck in the system. | ||
| You're totally right. | ||
| I agree 100%. | ||
| Everything you're saying is true. | ||
| They are doing a mass graphene oxide test. | ||
| They're adding a new DNA segment to the strand. | ||
| And they are setting the present to control our bodies and rule over us. | ||
| And this is a mass mad scientist. | ||
| Takeover. | ||
| Incredible call. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| It was not incredible. | ||
| What happened to the globalist plan was just to kill everybody because Satan told them to. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Why are we turning into batteries now? | ||
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Why are they mutating people with a third strand of DNA? | |
| Their idea was to kill everybody before they figured out they could just add another strand of DNA. | ||
| Now, let me ask you a question. | ||
| Can you... | ||
| Okay, so we draw the double helix, right? | ||
| Add a third. | ||
| All right, so how do we add a third and where? | ||
| I mean, it's just a tangle. | ||
| Just more squirrely lines? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| All right, so we got adenine, guanine, thymine, and cytosine. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not from the learning. | ||
| Add an L in there. | ||
| Add an L. Right. | ||
| Might as well. | ||
| That rhymes. | ||
| Are they made... | ||
| Is the other... | ||
| Is it something made of the same stuff? | ||
| Is it made of the same stuff? | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
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And if so, does it do anything other than provide cancers? | |
| Let me consult this caller. | ||
| Hello? | ||
| I'm interested. | ||
| I'm not an improv guy. | ||
| I'm not like Alex. | ||
| I can't do this. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| This guy is coming up with bullshit. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| And I do think that Alex kind of thinks that they're trying to turn people into mutants like the X-Men. | ||
| I really think that there's a part of his brain that thinks there's superpowers that they're trying to unlock. | ||
| I think there's a part of a lot of people's brains that kind of hope it's there. | ||
| If we just worked hard enough. | ||
| Well, I mean, like, Marvel has unveiled their plans for Phase 5 and 6. Phase 7 is We're All Mutants. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Take it from the screen into real life. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| That makes perfect sense. | ||
| Yes, it's art. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| We've elevated it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's finally time. | ||
| I mean, what are you going to do at a certain point? | ||
| Like, these movies, they're all about the world almost ending and them saving the world. | ||
| The only thing there is left is to turn all the people who are watching the movies. | ||
| Into superhero mutants. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean... | ||
| And then film it. | ||
| Improv anywhere in the like. | ||
| The flash mobs, they were annoying before. | ||
| If all of them had superpowers, I'm out. | ||
| I pass. | ||
| Phase seven is all documentaries. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So Alex goes to break and he comes back. | ||
| Errol Morris is directing Ant-Man. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he can throw fireballs. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| So he comes back for break with a song, and he gets really into it. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Can't argue with a stand-up bass. | ||
| No one dared to ask his business. | ||
| No one dared to make a slip. | ||
| The stranger there among them had a big iron on his hip. | ||
| Big Iron On is here. | ||
| Get a big old gun. | ||
| This song is about a guy with a big gun. | ||
| It's not even about the guy, really. | ||
| It's about the gun. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Big iron on his hip. | ||
| I will say Vince Staples has a love song about his gun, so I'm not going to judge that. | ||
| No, I think the song is fine. | ||
| I think it's actually a pretty good song. | ||
| I just also think that it's funny that Alex is just like, this beautiful song about a gun. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Big iron on his hip. | ||
| So he plays the whole song. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hasn't gotten to many calls. | ||
| I doubt it. | ||
| But he plays the whole song. | ||
| Here's at the end of that. | ||
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Oh, he might have went on living, but he made one fatal slip when he tried to match the ranger with the big iron on his hip. | |
| Oh, that's big iron Marty Robbins. | ||
| A little blast from the past. | ||
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Big iron. | |
| When he tried to match the ranger with... | ||
| I marked that little short segment up because I wanted to play that whole song. | ||
| We played it for years. | ||
| I don't want to play most of the song here. | ||
| We're going to go to break, join some stations, and no matter how good your calls are, I've only gotten to four or five calls, I'm going to give each caller two minutes because I want to get to everybody holding. | ||
| Hey, look, we've got to tighten it up with these calls because I had to kill time playing a song. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| It's the caller's fault, really, because they're so good and you have to talk to them for so long as opposed to just... | ||
| Killing time with nothing. | ||
| I feel like there's a universe where Casey Kasem becomes Alex Jones and Alex Jones goes to Casey Kasem's route. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't see Alex Jones appearing on Saved by the Bell. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| That is fair. | ||
| Maybe more like a Rick Dees. | ||
| Maybe Alex could be Rick Dees. | ||
| I'd accept that. | ||
| Less beloved than Casey Kasem. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But Casey Kasem had his outbursts. | ||
| He had his time. | ||
| Yeah, there was that time. | ||
| There's the famous one. | ||
| We're doing it live! | ||
| Classic, classic Casey Kasem quoting Thomas Jefferson. | ||
| So we get another caller. | ||
| Alex does get to calls. | ||
| And this guy's got an interesting point. | ||
| Alright, let's go to Evan in California. | ||
| Thanks for calling. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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Alex, it's a pleasure to talk to you again. | |
| I want to point something out. | ||
| I only got two minutes. | ||
| Biden loved eating ice cream in front of us and stuff like that, licking ice cream. | ||
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It isn't because he's hungry or because he likes ice cream. | |
| They're showing a thing of... | ||
| I know that I feel incredibly small when I see Joe Biden eating ice cream. | ||
| You know, I thought there were lines that were like, I just can't talk to you. | ||
| And I thought I had gotten most of them. | ||
| The point where you go, well, the president's eating ice cream, not because he likes it, but to dominate you, I go... | ||
| I don't think there's anything we can talk about. | ||
| He wants me to feel bad. | ||
| There's just nothing we can talk about if you're there. | ||
| Warren Buffett always is photographed with ice cream trying to dominate you. | ||
| Not because he's a part owner of Dairy Queen. | ||
| Okay, so when Brad Pitt eats in a movie, he's dominating you. | ||
| Is that what we're doing? | ||
| It's not just a bad character trait that he won't let go of? | ||
| It's a subtle thing, but yes. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| That's why he's famous. | ||
| That's why he doesn't. | ||
| So anyway. | ||
| It looks good if he wants to do a show of all callers. | ||
| We get another guy calling in who's mad at Joe Rogan. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| Because, as he explains, all these people who listen to Alex Jones are out there. | ||
| They're living check to check, and they're still supporting Alex, buying the supplements. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And then he weaves this into a criticism of Rogan that I don't fully understand. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Kyle in Nebraska. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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Alex, the art of war gone. | |
| Love you, brother. | ||
| Love you. | ||
| Is that his real middle name? | ||
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All right, so I gotta bring this up. | |
| You got guys like me everywhere that are check to check and still find a way to buy supplements because they're the best in the world. | ||
| And we're sitting here check to check. | ||
| There's thousands of us, maybe hundreds of thousands in this country, just like me. | ||
| But you get Joe Rogan talking to Lex Friedman, and you guys, please, please bring this clip up when you can. | ||
| It's a short clip, and it's Joe Rogan refusing to have Trump on his podcast with Lex Friedman. | ||
| And it's just disgusting what Joe Rogan said. | ||
| And it's just, we got to call these people out, man, and just all assault. | ||
| Like, it's ridiculous, man, just to see that kind of stuff, you know? | ||
| I haven't seen the clip, and I tell you, when Joe first moved here, we were hanging out quite often, and Joe's very nice. | ||
| If I call him up, we can go get dinner or whatever. | ||
| And I just kind of, I talked to Joe on the phone some. | ||
| We talk on text every day. | ||
| But I just, you know, he did some good work exposing the shot, but then it's almost like I'm seeing backtracking from him and just a lot of weird stuff going on. | ||
| And I just, you know, I've got bigger fish to fry, like the New World Order and the Globalists, and so I'm not going to be the keeper. | ||
| I'm not my brother's keeper. | ||
| I'm not going to sit there and tell Joe what to do. | ||
| You are your brother's keeper, according to the Bible. | ||
| But, also, why is this different than Sneaky Snake time? | ||
| If Rogan's going off track... | ||
| I think what he's saying is that Rogan told me not to do the I'm going to bleed you like a pig thing anymore. | ||
| Yeah, Rogan told me that's not going to work again. | ||
| Rogan told me I'm not coming back on the show, so I just kind of don't really care what he does. | ||
| Yeah, it's not worth fighting because it's a dead end. | ||
| Yeah, sometimes he might say something nice about me as long as I stay quiet about him, but for now, if I talk shit, I'm just the asshole. | ||
| Probably not going to bring up his kids in some weird way. | ||
| It's a bad idea. | ||
| But also, I don't know what the connective tissue is between this guy living check to check and buying Alex's stuff and then Rogan not having Trump on. | ||
| I thought that he was going to say, we're not rich and we're supporting you. | ||
| Rogan has this $100 million contract. | ||
| He should be helping you out. | ||
| I thought for sure that was what it was. | ||
| But then it's like Trump not coming on his show. | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| I mean, okay. | ||
| So because you're check-to-check and you buy Alex's supplements, Joe Rogan not having Trump on is wrong. | ||
| So let's imagine how this is different if he does have Trump on. | ||
| What does that have to do with you living check-to-check and buying Alex's shit? | ||
| Do you get more money for Trump appearing on Joe Rogan's show? | ||
| Is this Trump's PR director? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Excuse me, sir. | ||
| I believe I know who you are now. | ||
| We have reached the bottom of this mystery. | ||
| And that is unfortunate if Trump's PR director is living check to check. | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised. | ||
| What was his name that he used, his fake name? | ||
| Who, Trump? | ||
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Oh, yeah! | |
| Fuck. | ||
| I can't remember what it was when he called in as his own... | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Fuck! | ||
| It would have been great to pull that name. | ||
| Yeah, that would have been a pull. | ||
| So anyway, this caller worries me. | ||
| This person would also probably be calling in on that Callers Only show and make it not a good show. | ||
| Concerning. | ||
| Kim in Wisconsin, go ahead. | ||
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Love you. | |
| I have a few quick things. | ||
| I'll speak quickly. | ||
| One is AI, how they condition us on the complete season number 11 of the X-Files, show RM9SBG93ZWJZ. | ||
| It starts out and it says, if we do not control AI, it will control us. | ||
| I believe the answer to how to control AI is probably in that show. | ||
| I'll be watching it tonight. | ||
| You haven't watched it yet? | ||
| You're calling in about an X-Files episode that you haven't seen that you think has the clue to the secret to controlling AI. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| I don't know what to say. | ||
| My advice would be watch the episode. | ||
| Get back to me after that. | ||
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Because then at least you'll have something to say other than there's a... | |
| At this point, the only thing you're bringing to the table is that there's an episode of the X-Files that you plan to watch. | ||
| Yeah, that is pretty much all you've said so far. | ||
| Ma 'am. | ||
| I can't work with that. | ||
| I mean, I haven't seen it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| None of us have seen it. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So we can't talk about it. | ||
| It probably has the secret to AI in it. | ||
| I can't believe that's true. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think so either. | ||
| Although, she does have another piece of big breaking news. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| Huge. | ||
| So she's got something. | ||
| She's bringing more. | ||
| Sort of. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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And the other thing is, Elon Musk and 29 Japanese scientists. | |
| A few years back, supposedly, we're killed by four robots. | ||
| We need to make robots like that illegal. | ||
| We need to start making things illegal and standing up for it, because otherwise, we're in trouble. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| Anything else you like to add? | ||
| What now? | ||
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Yes, I have an idea for a t-shirt. | |
| Norman Bates was and is... | ||
| Alright, thank you for the call. | ||
| I don't know if I would respond to that with, I agree with you. | ||
| You know, of all the things I was not expecting. | ||
| Her shirt idea. | ||
| And then she says it. | ||
| Norman Bates is and was psycho. | ||
| Then there's a pause and then fake laugh. | ||
| I think Alex was worried. | ||
| Yeah, I'm worried. | ||
| I do gotta say, I mean, was this before he bought Twitter? | ||
| Right. | ||
| That Elon Musk and 29 Japanese scientists were killed by four robots? | ||
| Right. | ||
| That we need to make illegal. | ||
| Now, I ask you this question. | ||
| We need to make those robots illegal. | ||
| Do we need to make them illegal, or do we need to make sure that Isaac Asimov's rules of robotics are maintained in perpetuity? | ||
| But we know that that's impossible. | ||
| We know that it goes astray at some point. | ||
| Asimov himself knew that. | ||
| Although, on the other hand, what went astray is that the robots became too altruistic, thereby saving the entire humor race and then scattering them across the galaxy. | ||
| I'm still totally convinced you're not a robot. | ||
| I gotta give you that test. | ||
| I know, but I'm a fairly nice guy. | ||
| Not one of the four that would kill Elon Musk. | ||
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That would be crazy if the other three and I killed Robot Musk. | |
| I mean, if all four of us... | ||
| Oh no! | ||
| Oh no! | ||
| I revealed that it was a robot we killed. | ||
| I was thinking about this, and I don't really fully know how I would respond if I were a talk show host and someone called in and was like, Elon Musk and 29 Japanese scientists were killed by four robots. | ||
| we need to make robots illegal. | ||
| I don't know if I would feel like I have the time to explain that Elon Musk isn't dead. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Like I don't know how I'd respond. | |
| I know I wouldn't say I agree with you Right, right, right, right. | ||
| I respect that. | ||
| But somebody could get through your screening process. | ||
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Totally. | |
| And if you're in that situation, I don't know, maybe it's the next ten minutes are trying to help this person realize that robots didn't kill Elon Musk. | ||
| I feel like my response would be fairly simple. | ||
| It would be like... | ||
| Unfortunately, Elon was not murdered by four robots. | ||
| I feel like a better response might be... | ||
| You got any shirt ideas? | ||
| So, we get another caller. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This guy. | ||
| How's he going? | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Okay, so he's got an idea. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then this launches Alex into... | ||
| I like ideas, man. | ||
| This launches Alex into a weird story. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right, let's jam in one more before we go to break. | ||
| Let's go to Bert in Arizona. | ||
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Hey, Bert. | |
| Alex, am I coming through? | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
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Hey, so you said it about five minutes ago. | |
| What's coming next? | ||
| That's what's important. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| The Bible... | ||
| There's foretold, 25 years ago, exactly what's coming next year. | ||
| Biden will not be nominated by the Democrats in 2024. | ||
| He will be taken out by the deep state during the election season, August to September 2024. | ||
| Immediately after that, both of the candidates, the Republican Democrats, will both be taken out by the deep state. | ||
| I'm getting chills right now. | ||
| I want you to stop right there. | ||
| And I want you to come back. | ||
| Don't hang up. | ||
| My mother never gets in my face about politics. | ||
| But she's extremely smart. | ||
| And I'm not trying to act cool. | ||
| Everybody's psychic. | ||
| Everybody has a sixth sense. | ||
| Both people aren't aware of it. | ||
| But my mother's side of the family is extremely psychic. | ||
| Show us my dad's. | ||
| It's kind of a little family secret. | ||
| Her grandmother was actually a down-low famous psychic that even... | ||
| A U.S. president came to see. | ||
| We're not talking about like a gypsy on the side of the road in a cart or something, okay? | ||
| But my mom got the touch. | ||
| And she said, I'm going to tell you when we come back. | ||
| What? | ||
| She grabbed me and told me this. | ||
| She says they're going to kill him. | ||
| They're going to kill him, George. | ||
| Okay, hold on. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When did they start with the yee-hee music? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| I mean, it wasn't playing the entire time he was telling the story. | ||
| Somebody listened to him start telling the story and then played the ominous music, right? | ||
| Or it was just the thing that was going to be out to break anyway. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| And then they turned it. | ||
| It definitely turned up. | ||
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Sure, sure. | |
| I felt that. | ||
| That's why I included All the Way to Brick, because it was really noticeable. | ||
| Yes, that's fucking Twilight Zone. | ||
| But that's good work. | ||
| I don't know, that's a good music sting. | ||
| I'm not saying it's not a good music sting. | ||
| Gotta give it up whenever they get one. | ||
| It is a good one. | ||
| So yeah, Alex's mom and dad, both of their sides of the family, quite psychic, but Alex's mom more so. | ||
| Family secret. | ||
| She's touched. | ||
| Family secret. | ||
| I think the sixth sense is actually thermoception. | ||
| That's the ability to tell that heat source is there without actually touching it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then there's proprioception, where you're able to kind of tell where your body is without touching your body. | ||
| You know, like an internal awareness of existence. | ||
| You know, we've got a lot of senses, actually. | ||
| Eighth sense? | ||
| Taste? | ||
| That could be. | ||
| But I mean, like... | ||
| I've never heard of that one before. | ||
| But I've got thermoception and proprioception. | ||
| It's taste, but like, you know what I'm saying. | ||
| Like a good one. | ||
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I'm not going to use the word, but I'm thinking it? | |
| I'm talking... | ||
| I wasn't trying to be suggestive at all. | ||
| What I was saying is, like, normal people, they have, like, they can taste food. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But, like, people who have the eighth sense can really taste food. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You know how, like, the food tripping thing? | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| You just do that all the time if you have an eighth sense. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| Just eat lemons. | ||
| Yeah, I'm gonna let mine go. | ||
| So Alex's mom apparently shook him and told him they're gonna kill Biden. | ||
| Now we know from listening to this show enough that they were gonna kill Trump before the election, and then he won, and then they were gonna kill him before the inauguration, and then they were trying to kill him the entire time that he was president, right? | ||
| All kinds of things. | ||
| They're also trying to kill Roger. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Polonium. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Frequent car accidents. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then they're going to kill Biden before the last election. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And then they're going to replace him with Michelle Obama or Hillary. | ||
| Or Jim Carrey. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| No, that's Project Camelot. | ||
| Oh, my bad. | ||
| So that was going to happen before the election. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then it didn't happen. | ||
| He got elected. | ||
| True. | ||
| And then the election was stolen. | ||
| But also they were going to kill Biden before the... | ||
| Right. | ||
| So Kamala. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then she would step down. | ||
| So Pelosi would be president. | ||
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Right. | |
| Her vice president would be Hillary. | ||
| I forgot Pelosi was going to be president. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Hillary would be her vice. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then she would also step down so Hillary could be installed as president. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Because that's apparently so important to the globalist plans. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| That didn't happen. | ||
| No. | ||
| And then Biden's had dementia and was on the brink of death since then. | ||
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That's true. | |
| That hasn't happened. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So now Alex gets this caller who says that they're going to kill Biden before the next election. | ||
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Right. | |
| He's like, this is so amazing. | ||
| I can't believe it. | ||
| My psychic mom just told me that it's going to happen. | ||
| I'm tired of this shit. | ||
| But it is kind of funny that he keeps doing it. | ||
| I mean, you know? | ||
| It's funny that the audience doesn't start to notice, hey, a whole lot of bad psychic predictions going on here. | ||
| It makes me concerned. | ||
| That our childhood stories about the boy crying wolf need to be updated. | ||
| Because in those stories it was clearly a bad thing, whereas in real life it appears to make you millions of dollars. | ||
| And the day rarely comes when the townspeople of InfoWars... | ||
| They just keep going like, hey man, I bet that is a wolf. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They just keep on doing it. | ||
| So he comes back for break and Alex discusses his mom's prediction a little bit more. | ||
| And then also gets into some of his psychic gifts. | ||
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Happy New Year's Day! | |
| I go to my parents' house probably every two weeks for dinner with my wife and my five-year-old child and my older children come over to visit usually at the same time. | ||
| And it was about two years ago. | ||
| Biden had only been a few months. | ||
| And I'm sitting there. | ||
| My mother goes, they're going to kill Biden. | ||
| They're going to kill Biden in the next couple of years. | ||
| And before he announces for 2024, he used that as a false flag. | ||
| Always the next couple. | ||
| Bring in massive tyranny. | ||
| She goes, I just see it. | ||
| I just know it. | ||
| You've got to tell people, and we've got to stop it. | ||
| And you've got to make sure people are nonviolent, and you've got to get out ahead of this and say that you don't support Biden being killed, which I do not. | ||
| It turns into a martyr. | ||
| And call it a sense, women's intuition. | ||
| We all know about it. | ||
| I mean, here's an example the other day, and this happens all the time. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| Great story. | ||
| Whenever I don't try, I can do it. | ||
| I can be in a dark bedroom. | ||
| I don't have an alarm clock with a big light on it. | ||
| I have my watch sitting right next to me. | ||
| And I can turn my phone on and do it. | ||
| I don't try. | ||
| Everybody has these experiences. | ||
| I don't try. | ||
| I always know the exact minute it is when I wake up. | ||
| And I might wake up at 5 and wake up at 6, but I just know the minute. | ||
| But your brain somehow knows the minute. | ||
| You're dialed into that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex really does seem to think he can always tell what time it is. | ||
| This is the second time we've heard him bring this up as his psychic gift. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| He always knows what time it is. | ||
| Which, I mean, as far as knacks go, that's a good knack to have, but that is not a power. | ||
| But it's also not true. | ||
| No, not even a little bit. | ||
| He's just forgotten or ignored the times he's been wrong. | ||
| He's been right sometimes. | ||
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. | |
| He's a fucking child. | ||
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. | |
| Hold on, hold on, hold on. | ||
| Are you saying that he engages regularly in confirmation bias? | ||
| Yeah, but this is like how a kid brags on the schoolyard. | ||
| Oh, 100%. | ||
| I always know what time it is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Always. | ||
| But I can't do it if I'm trying. | ||
| I can only do it when I'm not trying. | ||
| So, of course, I can't prove it. | ||
| I can turn invisible when you're not looking. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So Alex has another psychic gift. | ||
| This one, this is our last clip, and I was just, this is so dumb. | ||
| Another example is I'm sitting there. | ||
| I'm on vacation with my wife, a five-year-old, and my wife's in the shower getting dressed after we've been out at the beach. | ||
| And my wife's got a deck of cards. | ||
| She likes to play blackjack with me. | ||
| And I get the deck, I shuffle it, and I spread it out in front of my five-year-old on the table. | ||
| And I said, I'm going to pull the ace of spades out of this. | ||
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And of course, it's crazy. | |
| I knew it was going to happen. | ||
| I just looked at it. | ||
| Don't do this. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Now that's the real power of the universe. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Really? | ||
| That's the real power? | ||
| So this was using it for good? | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| Penn and Teller? | ||
| Have a show on the CW network where people pull the ace out of shit all the time. | ||
| I deck your ear. | ||
| But even leaving tricks aside, there's a 1 in 52 chance that you're going to get that right? | ||
| Correct. | ||
| So the universe, the magic of the universe is a 1 in 52 chance of something? | ||
| Yeah, you got about 2%. | ||
| The magic, 2% chance of happening. | ||
| That's pretty dumb. | ||
| But then also, I would say, this... | ||
| Is something that only a five-year-old could corroborate. | ||
| And I'm not convinced that that five-year-old would realize if Alex had cheated this a little bit. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Or maybe took four or five tries. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Because they're a five-year-old, you could just tell them that it was the first time. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And because your brain is that of a five-year-old, you have also told yourself that you picked it the first time, and you believe it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because we got two five-year-olds. | ||
| If I sincerely believe myself to have some kind of an extra human gift, and I were trying to brag about this on my radio show. | ||
| Right. | ||
| These aren't the examples I would choose. | ||
| I always know what time it is, and one time I pulled the Ace of Spades out of a deck of cards. | ||
| You know, I mean, it is a little bit like being, you know, like, here's a crazy thing I'm great at, right? | ||
| You know how when you crumple up a ball of paper, and then the garbage can is so far away, and you're like, you know what? | ||
| I've got the gift. | ||
| And you toss it in there? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 40%. | ||
| I am as good as Steph Curry. | ||
| So long as it's the garbage can. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| 40% of the time. | ||
| That's the best that you can get in the world, I'm pretty sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My superpower is that one time, I don't usually check the mail. | ||
| I don't really check the mail all that much. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But one time, I just felt like I had a letter there. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did you? | ||
| I did. | ||
| Fucking hell. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Superpower. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well. | ||
| I just can't argue with that. | ||
| It's undeniable. | ||
| The results speak for themselves. | ||
| One time, I had a die, and I was rolling it, and I said, I'm gonna get a five, and I did. | ||
| That's a good one. | ||
| That's a really good one. | ||
| What was the Ben Stiller superhero movie? | ||
| Mystery Men? | ||
| Yeah, Mystery Men. | ||
| I can shovel well. | ||
| I can shovel really well, though. | ||
| Like, the best. | ||
| This is sad. | ||
| It's very sad. | ||
| So we come to the end of this. | ||
| Yes, we do. | ||
| I mean, you know, as silly of a present-day episode in many ways as you're going to get. | ||
| It's been a while since we got one like that. | ||
| I was really expecting there was going to be some kind of a discussion or mention of the articles about the text, because he took a fair amount of calls. | ||
| He took his sweet time getting to them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he did take a number of them, and instead of that, you get like... | ||
| Solving AI with X-Files episodes. | ||
| I'm gonna tell you this. | ||
| Third strands of DNA. | ||
| I just don't know how much penetration the SPLC has in the InfoWars audience. | ||
| Generally speaking, I feel like maybe they're actively hostile towards the SPLC and will regard anything that they write as bullshit no matter what it is. | ||
| And so don't care. | ||
| Or hatchet jobs. | ||
| I think that that's entirely possible, but... | ||
| Even within the set of Alex's audience, I think that there's a small sliver that probably would be at least curious. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Or like, hey Alex, how about these assholes? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, bring it up so Alex could, you know, stop on it or whatever. | ||
| Something along those lines. | ||
| But, yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe it'll come up in the later one. | ||
| Maybe it won't. | ||
| If it doesn't. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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Good work. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back, Jordan. | ||
| But until then. | ||
| We have a website. | ||
| We do. | ||
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It's knowledgefight.com. | |
| It is unwatchedepisodesofxfiles.com. | ||
| That would be a good episode. | ||
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX. | ||
| Clark, I am the seventh strand of DNA. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |