Today, Dan and Jordan drop in for a little mini-ish episode from the past. In this installment, Alex does an amazing drunk impression, makes up news about Patriot Act 2 (Back In The Habit), and reports on news from yet another source run by holocaust deniers.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
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I love you. | |
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
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I'm Dan. | |
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Uh, Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| I have a quick question for you today, sir. | ||
| Well, I shall get to that as soon as you let me know what that question is. | ||
| All right, that question. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| My bright spot today, Jordan, is a possible bright spot. | ||
| Possible dark spot. | ||
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Oh! | |
| The future. | ||
| I wanted to add a little bit of danger into the proceedings. | ||
| I wanted to add a little bit of chaos. | ||
| A little bit of, what's it gonna be? | ||
| Could break either direction. | ||
| So today, I got myself a flavor of Red Bull. | ||
| This is the winter edition. | ||
| Winter is coming, Jordan, to my mouth shortly. | ||
| With a fig apple flavor. | ||
| That sounds disgusting. | ||
| Well, see, I love apple, and I think apple juice in a Red Bull format could be good. | ||
| Possible. | ||
| But fig is scary. | ||
| Fig is dicey. | ||
| Yes, and so I am going to crack this open. | ||
| I mean, outside of a Newton scenario. | ||
| I don't even like it in a Newton. | ||
| You don't like it in a Newton? | ||
| No. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I didn't like it as a Newton when I was a kid, and I haven't had him since, so I probably don't like it as a Newton either. | ||
| I remember there were other fruit Newtons. | ||
| They made other Newtons? | ||
| Yeah, they made strawberry Newton, I think. | ||
| I thought it was punishable by law for them not to make figs. | ||
| My bright spot is being an asshole. | ||
| That's how old we are. | ||
| It's never gonna change. | ||
| Well, you started talking about Fig Newtons and it brought it out. | ||
| And now it's all there. | ||
| Alright, so I'm gonna try this without giving it a smell because I feel like that could bias me. | ||
| The smell could really mess you up. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, he's taking a sip. | ||
| He smacked his lips a little bit. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| Neutral spot! | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It's underwhelming. | ||
| We have to restart this whole fucking episode. | ||
| Well, kind of an anticlimactic bright spot, but hey, this is fine. | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| I have no strong feelings one way or the other. | ||
| My bright spot... | ||
| Wait, wait. | ||
| My bright spot was the potential. | ||
| The potential. | ||
| Okay, there you go. | ||
| For how good it could have been or how bad it could have been. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| The potential experience is what you were looking for. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I could have been like, this is my new favorite drink. | ||
| Or conversely, I could have done a spit take. | ||
| It could have been so disgusting. | ||
| Ultimately. | ||
| That is exciting. | ||
| Ultimately, what it is. | ||
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Not that bright. | |
| Is that... | ||
| That's a lesson. | ||
| We should all take more joy out of the potential. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, it's about the journey. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Not the mediocre destination. | ||
| Being at the car dealership is more exciting than owning the car. | ||
| Don't buy a car. | ||
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No. | |
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot is... | ||
| Your car? | ||
| It is... | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Tomorrow, well, when you hear this today, Fire Emblem and Gage will be out. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's true. | ||
| It will be the 20th. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I am hype! | ||
| I am also hype. | ||
| I think I'm going to play a little bit of it streaming. | ||
| I'm going to do it on the internet. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I think I'll do it. | ||
| Is it something you can play remotely? | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| Because if so, we could play it together on your stream. | ||
| Yeah, that would be cool as shit. | ||
| Yeah, I have tried to, since the last time I announced that I was hype about this, I've tried to not delve too much into people doing pre-reviews and stuff, because I feel like a lot of people have a lot of strong opinions, and I may not agree with all of them, and maybe they'll bum me out. | ||
| That's kind of how strong opinions work. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So what are you feeling about this? | ||
| I'm sorry, I don't want to hijack your bright spot. | ||
| Here's my feeling. | ||
| I have not read a lot of reviews, but if you're just on the internet, If you're a huge fan of all the going around and talking to your people... | ||
| Doing the whole thing and then doing a support conversation and then doing another thing and then doing another thing until they finally were like, I like you. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Is that the dating sim aspect? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| You're going to be a little bit disappointed. | ||
| That's fine because I think there might have been too much of that in Three Houses. | ||
| I felt the way too. | ||
| I liked it. | ||
| I liked, but sometimes I was getting to a point where I'm like... | ||
| Some of these cutscenes need to tighten it up a little bit. | ||
| I don't care about these characters. | ||
| Now granted, the characters I do like give me all those cutscenes, but some of these people are a little boring. | ||
| So it sounds like they've cut a lot of that down, and then all the stuff that I liked about the battles and the tactical stuff. | ||
| They've streamlined it and kind of tightened it up so it's more enjoyable. | ||
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Nice. | |
| So that's, to me, that's what I wanted to hear. | ||
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All right. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I'm excited to give it a shot. | ||
| I'm down. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| I mean, like, it'll be out tomorrow, so. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know what time it's going to come out? | ||
| Tonight. | ||
| Probably the beginning of the day. | ||
| I'm going to need six more of these fig apples. | ||
| 11 p.m. Central? | ||
| Nah, I'll be in bed. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| So, exciting. | ||
| Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| Here's the sitch that we find ourselves in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Alex in the present day kind of sucks. | ||
| I don't really care all that much. | ||
| Simultaneously, very exciting, sold out the second show in Milwaukee. | ||
| Wild. | ||
| Very fast. | ||
| Wild. | ||
| Wild. | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| I appreciate that you all like our show and want to come, but I don't understand. | ||
| I believe the last live show we did at Austin, the first thing I said was like, why are all of you here? | ||
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Is this show enjoyable to listen to? | |
| Hey, we're going to talk about horrible things. | ||
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Whatever you do, man. | |
| But I appreciate it, and I'm excited about it, honestly. | ||
| It'll be fun. | ||
| But I've been giving a ton of thought to, like, what are those episodes going to be? | ||
| Because, first of all, one episode in Milwaukee that we're doing live, that already is like, what do we do? | ||
| And now we have two. | ||
| Yeah, why did we do that? | ||
| Oh, people wanted it. | ||
| Yeah, and so, like, trying to do some of the pre-prep work on that has taken up a bit of my time, and, you know, it's still an ongoing concern. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Trying to figure out, like, what do you cover? | ||
| Do you cover beer? | ||
| Do you cover... | ||
| I mean, I think I've already made that joke. | ||
| Something about the bucks? | ||
| Here's the problem, because here's what's almost certainly going to happen. | ||
| We are going to have something fully prepared for the Thursday episode. | ||
| And then you're going to find something that happened that day, and it's going to be a scramble. | ||
| And then Lord knows what's going to happen on Thursday night. | ||
| No, that's not happening. | ||
| It's going to be in advance. | ||
| I figured out one. | ||
| The Thursday show, I have figured out. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So that actually, I've been working on what that is. | ||
| But the Friday show is very much still up in the air. | ||
| Still got to figure that out. | ||
| And we'll figure that out at any time. | ||
| But anyway, because of a lot of juggling, I decided to take a bath in 2003. | ||
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Good call. | |
| So we're in the past today. | ||
| We're going to be talking about December 17th, 2003. | ||
| Alex is still in the aftermath of the Saddam capture. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And we don't get any evolution on that note. | ||
| No more beard-spiracy, no eye-spiracy. | ||
| But we do get some other stuff that's kind of weird. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| And we'll get down to business on that. | ||
| But first, let's say hello, Jordan, to some new wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Duke Sir Rowland's toque and stick emporium. | ||
| He's the policy wonk with the quality bonks to your head. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you, Duke Sir Rowland. | ||
| Next, Guy Incognito, globalist infiltration specialist. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
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Thank you. | |
| And Saddam Hussein, seventh body double's dreamy creamy milk mustache. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| I thought I had got more names, but I only got three. | ||
| So, here we are. | ||
| Hey, you get a special three-name episode. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, we're going to start here. | ||
| This is where Alex is at, reading off some of these headlines and where we're at on December 17th. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And Bush was scheduled to announce a trip back to the moon today. | ||
| Maybe that's where he's taken the Bill of Rights and Constitution. | ||
| Maybe on this moon mission he will bring it back. | ||
| Don't count on it. | ||
| States are moving ahead with legalization of using baby parts and cloning operations. | ||
| Patriot Act II was signed. | ||
| People are calling my office about this. | ||
| I have the Associated Press article here in front of me. | ||
| I'll go back over it today. | ||
| Will ya? | ||
| And much, much more. | ||
| Yeah, so Bush is gonna go get the Bill of Rights from the moon. | ||
| Okay, now I know that sounded like an insult. | ||
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That's fun. | |
| I know that sounded like an insult, but he has just written National Treasure 4, and it is going to be blockbuster shit. | ||
| I think we still need three first. | ||
| Oh, they gotta direct it. | ||
| I think they gotta direct a DVD three. | ||
| That doesn't count. | ||
| That's not canon. | ||
| Oh, okay, fine. | ||
| There is a series, I think. | ||
| There's a TV series? | ||
| There might have been a Disney Plus series or something. | ||
| Well, they didn't find the Declaration of Independence on the goddamn moon, now did they? | ||
| No, they didn't. | ||
| And they should. | ||
| They should! | ||
| I'm with ya! | ||
| So, Alex has been talking about this, the fact that Patriot Act 2 has been signed, and I noticed as this episode was beginning... | ||
| I've heard him say that a bit, but I've never heard him specify what he means. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So now he's got the AP article in front of him. | ||
| So we know for a fact that the Patriot Act 2 has been signed as decided by the AP themselves. | ||
| Well, I was interested in figuring out if there were going to be any specifics on this. | ||
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Right. | |
| And so I was like, alright, I'm in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'll listen. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| So there's a lot of shit talk going around about... | ||
| People having advanced knowledge that Saddam was going to be captured. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| And get this, after Saddam gets captured, that's when they're going to find the weapons of mass destruction, because of course they are. | ||
| They're going to torture him and find where they were, when really they're just going to fake something or whatever. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And then, Bush is going to need to get re-elected in 2004. | ||
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Right. | |
| What is he going to do? | ||
| He's going to bring out bin Laden. | ||
| Who's on ice? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Bin Laden's on ice. | ||
| They've got Bin Laden on ice? | ||
| Yeah, and Alex knows this because... | ||
| They've got a nice, chilled Bin Laden? | ||
| And Alex knows this because a drunk guy told him that. | ||
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Ooh! | |
| And I think this is Steve Pachetic, but also Alex's drunk impression is awesome. | ||
| About, oh, it was almost two years ago now, I was told by someone who was on board Air Force One... | ||
| And this is on the record. | ||
| I've talked about it a couple dozen times on air. | ||
| And I said, I don't know if it's accurate, and they may have been giving me disinformation. | ||
| But I was told, because there's a lot of people in the Bush administration that live right here in Austin, and this individual told several people, after they had been imbibing in some adult beverages at a party, that you watch right before the 0-4 election, Ben Laden... | ||
| Is he drunk in a Twilight Zone episode? | ||
| A kidney failure, and they gotta deal with his family to roll him out. | ||
| They got him frozen, and they're gonna roll him out right before the election. | ||
| So they do have them frozen. | ||
| So, again, that's not the type of news I even like to cover on air. | ||
| I don't know if it's true. | ||
| It's the type of stuff that's not good for your health to know, but a lot of people know it. | ||
| Everyone knows it. | ||
| I don't want to talk about this because I don't know that it's true, but everyone knows it. | ||
| Guys on ice. | ||
| I like the hiccup. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| It's just good. | ||
| All right, today on Good Morning America, we have a drunk guy who last night told me that bin Laden is frozen. | ||
| Come on down! | ||
| I think he's been frozen for about six years. | ||
| Now, I do think this is at least related to Steve, because early 2002 is when Steve was first on Alex's show, and so that would be about two years before this. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| About two years ago, party, everybody's drinking, Steve Pachenik, 68-odd years old. | ||
| Drug off his ass, making up bullshit about Bin Laden. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| That sounds like his actual, like, natural habitat. | ||
| He's supposed to be shit-faced at a party, telling you insane things, and everybody's gathered around like, what's he gonna say next? | ||
| Yeah, so it's either Steve, I think, or maybe, like, somewhat related to Steve. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Anyway, drunk impression, on point. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Pretty solid. | ||
| We'll give him that. | ||
| So, as is the case in 2003, pretty regularly, Alex does a lot of calls. | ||
| Takes a number of calls. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| This guy's got an opinion. | ||
| Barney, first caller of the day from Maryland. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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Yeah, Alex. | |
| I still say we should turn Saddam Hussein loose and try Bruce for murder and for being a traitor to violate the Constitution. | ||
| And how has Bush violated the Constitution? | ||
| The illegal war. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What about the turning Saddam loose? | ||
| I mean, here's the thing. | ||
| I appreciate one half of his sentiment. | ||
| I don't understand what turning him loose quite means. | ||
| Turn him loose. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Like, let him go? | ||
| Or like, set him free to wreak havoc upon this world of ours? | ||
| Yeah, send him on the attack. | ||
| Set him loose. | ||
| Is that what we have? | ||
| Release the Saddam? | ||
| The Saddam Kraken. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A little weird. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| That's a hot take. | ||
| I will say that. | ||
| Unfortunately, he doesn't develop a theme at all, and I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| He doesn't have a whole lot more to say other than, let him free. | ||
| Let him loose. | ||
| Lock up, Bush. | ||
| You can do both. | ||
| We can have them both locked up. | ||
| I don't think either of them are a good guy. | ||
| So Alex gets another caller, and this guy has a bit of a concern about some stuff that he's read about leaked media memos that have to do with the coming flu over the winter and such. | ||
| And so it's interesting, this conversation. | ||
| And Adam... | ||
| Was mentioning this website that's put out some pretty good stuff in the past, leaked news memos that purportedly leaked news memos from one of the big broadcast media outlets, one of the big three folks, talking about the New World Order activities, discussions of martial law, the capture of Saddam, all of it. | ||
| And now they're talking about weapons of mass destruction to be planted and released here very soon. | ||
| But going back to Adam, he was mentioning some memos he read about the flu and SARS, and I had not read those. | ||
| I'm not sure where he's going with this, but let's find out. | ||
| Adam, go ahead. | ||
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Alex, just quite simply, one of the things that lends credibility to the work that you do and individuals such as myself is the fact that you do come across things and then they come to fruition in the future. | |
| Again, I came across that site in doing some research on the contrived nature of the media back in October. | ||
| On December 2nd, you read this, again, it was, I don't even remember the name of the newspaper, but at any rate, it was, you know, that this pandemic is coming, this epidemic of flu is coming. | ||
| And again, having read... | ||
| Well, it was the New York Times saying they're going to have quarantines, digital badges, roundup camps in every major city and small town. | ||
| That was the New York Times two Mondays ago. | ||
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And, again, so that clicks in my head that, you know, hey, I read this a month ago, that apparently these leaked memos, again, was telling individual news directors, you know, to lay off this. | |
| Now we have monkeypox, that type of thing. | ||
| We're going to go on to something else, and we'll get back to this. | ||
| Essentially, we'll get back to this when it fires back up in the winter. | ||
| So this is all nonsense, but it does illustrate the constant and ever-present preoccupation Alex and his community have with predicting that every public health warning is secretly an attempt to bring in martial law. | ||
| Stuff with COVID is no different, really. | ||
| It just went differently in the world, and he adjusted differently. | ||
| It is very much a case study in how, let's say, different styles of leadership Sure. | ||
| You know, like all of these other situations where public health experts are saying, you know, we need to be careful about a flu during the winter because that is pretty much how it works. | ||
| This is a regular thing that we know about. | ||
| Here are some other things. | ||
| Here are the ways that we can handle those. | ||
| Here's all this stuff. | ||
| Or you can have somebody like Jared Kushner go, it's probably going to affect mostly cities, so fuck them! | ||
| It's a little bit different. | ||
| These are options. | ||
| A little different. | ||
| So the only reason I included this clip is because the caller is citing a website when he's talking about these leaked memos, purported leaked memos, because there's no proof they're real. | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| It's a website called tbrnews.org. | ||
| TBR stands for The Barnes Review, which is a deeply anti-Semitic and Holocaust-denying publication owned by Willis Cardo. | ||
| Hey, great! | ||
| The publication is named after Harry Elmer Barnes, an old-school Holocaust denier, and the content that they put out is straight trash. | ||
| It strains credulity for me to believe that someone could get their news from TBRnews.org and not be aware of the outlet's editorial beliefs. | ||
| Here are some of the headlines from that website around this time. | ||
| Quote, news of candidates' Jewish roots adds another flavor to campaign. | ||
| Quote, how the Holocaust industry stole the Swiss monies. | ||
| A shockingly high number of books that they have on their reading list. | ||
| Also, they do have a reading list. | ||
| Oh, that's good. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| A bunch of them are about Hitler and not negative coverage or not like maybe a little bit of positive coverage of Hitler. | ||
| I have a strong and resounding good work Barnes to say on this one. | ||
| Anyway, it's a really fucked up outlet for this caller to be citing and for Alex to clearly be familiar with and be saying like they have put out good stuff in the past. | ||
| It gets worse, though, because earlier in this exact episode, prior to this caller arriving, Alex reported on something from TBR News. | ||
| Leaked news network memo, stage discovery of weapons of mass destruction will follow Saddam Even back in 2003, these people were getting their news from people who were Nazi-adjacent. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| How? | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| It's all there! | ||
| How did we not all... | ||
| Man. | ||
| I don't remember quite realizing how much of a fucking real pandemic anti-Semitism was even back then. | ||
| In my little town. | ||
| A lot of it was under the surface. | ||
| A lot of it was, you know, or even coming from folks that it's like, well, yeah, it's ugly. | ||
| And there's this ugliness, but it's not really going anywhere or whatever. | ||
| You know, there was the possibly... | ||
| Delusional sense of, like, hey, this is just, this pocket will always exist. | ||
| It'll never grow, but you can't get rid of it. | ||
| And maybe that was naive. | ||
| I mean, you know, I remember how funny I thought it was when Pat Robertson and his ilk were like, well, if you didn't have gay people, we wouldn't have hurricanes, you know? | ||
| I thought it was funny that somebody could be that insane. | ||
| What I didn't realize is that that was actually most of the country, and we would eventually all be that. | ||
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So great! | |
| So one thing that is interesting is this caller seems to have a little bit more of a critical eye than Alex. | ||
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My question to you is, what do you know about this organization? | |
| Because one of the primary concerns is the fact that, as is the case with a number of individuals out there, they come out with information, yet behind the scenes they have things. | ||
| The only thing that's on that website are these leaked memos. | ||
| Aside from the fact that they have a large bookstore, that every single book in there is about Hitler or fascism or that type of thing. | ||
| My question to you is, what do you know about this organization? | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| I need to research them and I need to have them on the show because I haven't focused on it very much. | ||
| I'll focus on what the globalists are doing publicly in the legislation and my information. | ||
| But I will investigate it and try to get them on. | ||
| Yeah, good on this caller for having some curiosity. | ||
| Bad on Alex for trying to make excuses for why he relies on sources he hasn't vetted in any way to make absurd claims. | ||
| This caller shouldn't expect too much here. | ||
| This site is operated by an entity that traces back to Willis Cardo, who's also the man behind the American Free Press, whose editor was Big Jim Tucker, Alex's main source about Bilderberg. | ||
| If Alex actually explores the Nazi character of this TBR news outlet, he risks exposing a much larger reality about the information space that he exists in. | ||
| Oh shit, I'm a Nazi! | ||
| Damn it. | ||
| Ah, fuck! | ||
| Don't expect him to follow through on this in any way. | ||
| And if TBR News posts another completely unverifiable, unattributed, almost certainly made-up leaked news memo, you can bet Alex will report on it and pretend that this call never happened. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, I'm so shocked to hear once again that this... | ||
| I was going to say, that's no longer the bragging rights. | ||
| That I think he thinks it is supposed to be. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Yeah, I'm gonna need some author names. | ||
| So I think that Alex doesn't enjoy this kind of thing from a caller. | ||
| Yeah, obviously not. | ||
| It doesn't look good. | ||
| No. | ||
| Because it exposes potentially that he's reporting stuff from Nazi outlets. | ||
| Alex, are you a Nazi? | ||
| But then even if it doesn't, it exposes that he doesn't know. | ||
| Where his information is coming from. | ||
| And either of these is bad. | ||
| So he gets a friendly call from a guy who wants resources about 9-11 stuff. | ||
| And for knowledge of 9-11 proof, he wants Alex just to direct him, where is it on your website? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| And I will say, I understand where this caller is coming from. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Alex's website has always been unnavigatable. | ||
| It's impossible. | ||
| I think by design. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Alex just doesn't like this. | ||
| I think he's getting grumpy. | ||
| Smoke Bob! | ||
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I printed out just that one page of the recap. | |
| It referred to about 55 sites that you had put on over the months of all the evidence of advanced knowledge. | ||
| If that could be rerun or referred to it in the archives, maybe where a person could locate it, that would really be helpful. | ||
| It is on the website. | ||
| It's on both the websites. | ||
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It's in the archives, though? | |
| Yes. | ||
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Okay, but to locate it, is there an easy way to locate it other than visiting every archived website? | |
| Is there some way of doing it? | ||
| Every archived website, I don't understand. | ||
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Well, how would I find something like that? | |
| Like if I wanted to find those summaries of websites that related to 911, you know, like a summary, like when you printed the summary pages. | ||
| You know, I can't remember the exact headline of that article we put together with hyperlinks, but I will try to remember that for you and announce it on there. | ||
| Thanks for the call, George. | ||
| Angus in Alberta, Canada. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Go ahead, Angus. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| How are you today? | ||
| I'm fine. | ||
| You're not. | ||
| You're not fine. | ||
| You're having a bad day. | ||
| Not good at hiding his true emotions. | ||
| I'm fine. | ||
| I think it's also in stark contrast to Angus's very sunny disposition. | ||
| Hey, Alex! | ||
| So good to hear from you! | ||
| I'm fine. | ||
| I'm fine. | ||
| I don't like being ass-specifics. | ||
| He asked me whether or not what I said was true, and obviously it's not, so I'm fucked. | ||
| If you make these giant claims about having proved all this stuff about 9-11, you should probably have it at a very handy, easy, convenient place for people to go ahead and grab it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Seems like job one. | ||
| You know, if you could really prove something like the 9-11 was an inside job. | ||
| It would be everywhere, and it would not be coming from Alex. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I think those things... | ||
| I mean, I'm not just saying this from a naive perspective. | ||
| I've also looked into a lot of these claims and what have you. | ||
| But, like, yeah, if someone had a, like, boom... | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| We've proved, we've demonstrated this stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can't pretend that, like, oh, this is just gonna... | ||
| Only people who the mainstream is brainwashed into thinking they're crazy will believe this stuff. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| It would escape that bubble very easily. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Rational people do accept rational proof of things. | ||
| That's how it works. | ||
| Just not irrational nonsense proof. | ||
| You're the ones that are weird here. | ||
| We would all be like, yeah, fuck the government. | ||
| They did 9-11 if they did 9-11. | ||
| So at this point, I'm like, hey, speaking of proof, what about that Patriot Act 2 thing? | ||
| We got the AP article. | ||
| It's been signed. | ||
| Alex is saying he's gone over it. | ||
| Now he needs to go over it again. | ||
| I have not heard him go over it. | ||
| And so he brings it back up. | ||
| Alright, we're going to come back and I'm going to hit on Patriot Act 2 because it needs to be recapped and we'll go to all these other callers. | ||
| It needs to be recapped. | ||
| It hasn't been capped. | ||
| It has not been capped. | ||
| I don't know what's going on. | ||
| I like the confidence of the we need to recap this because it's a great gaslight. | ||
| Like, if you're going to gaslight somebody implying that they don't even remember... | ||
| The first time that you explain to them something that is inexplainable is such a great move. | ||
| Because you're on the defensive immediately. | ||
| You're like, wait, maybe I didn't get the... | ||
| Maybe I missed it. | ||
| Maybe it wasn't listening. | ||
| Maybe it's my fault! | ||
| So he does get to it. | ||
| And it's disappointing. | ||
| But here's Patriot Act 2. Bush signed this over the weekend. | ||
| And Ron Paul's comments on HR 2417, known as... | ||
| The Intelligence Authorization Act. | ||
| It appears we're witnessing a stealth enactment of the enormously unpopular Patriot Act II legislation. | ||
| And he goes on to say we need to defeat this legislation. | ||
| That was before it was passed and Bush signed it. | ||
| Here's the Associated Press. | ||
| Bush signs a bill extending FBI powers. | ||
| They can search anything. | ||
| So can the CIA. | ||
| No longer without warrants. | ||
| It's just carte blanche. | ||
| And it says most of the bill is secret. | ||
| But congressmen who have seen it say it's frightening. | ||
| This isn't Patriot Act 2. This is just the House bill that authorizes finances to be allocated to the intelligence community and services within the government. | ||
| This is a bill that's introduced and passed literally every year. | ||
| It wasn't secret, and it didn't allow the shit Alex is claiming. | ||
| Basically, what happened here is that Ron Paul talked some shit and called it Patriot Act 2. Right! | ||
| And based on that alone, Alex has decided that that's what it is, because he needs an off-ramp. | ||
| He's been warning about this thing that hasn't happened, and it's probably... | ||
| Not going to happen at any point. | ||
| No. | ||
| And so it's like, well, Ron Paul said it's like it, so it is it. | ||
| And so now he has demonstrated and fully proven that over the weekend, Bush signed Patriot Act 2, and here we are. | ||
| Alex is right. | ||
| Hashtag Alex Jones is right. | ||
| That is a good dodge. | ||
| That's a real good dodge. | ||
| I mean, you gotta do what you gotta do. | ||
| Yeah, of all of his dodges, which, I mean, frankly, most of them are just him standing there and taking the bullet and then saying, like, nah, I'm fine, and then just continuing to walk. | ||
| You know, this one, at least he's dodging with somebody actually called it Patriot Act 2 sometime, you know? | ||
| But, I mean, how many fucking things has Ron Paul called other things? | ||
| Like, he's not a reliable source of characterizations of things. | ||
| He's got flowery language when the time is right. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| So anyway, we heard a caller a couple episodes back in 2003 who wanted some customer service. | ||
| His tapes had not arrived. | ||
| The best. | ||
| Everything, any Bill Cooper customer service, any Alex customer service, the best. | ||
| So he had ordered some tapes, and it had been a while, they hadn't arrived, he called Alex. | ||
| He calls back in. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| Because he got his tapes. | ||
| Damn it! | ||
| It is a great resolution of this customer service art. | ||
| Damn it! | ||
| It's fantastic. | ||
| Now, here's why this clip is in here. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alex still gets mad about it. | ||
| You shouldn't be calling in about customer service! | ||
| Well, I don't even know what's going on here. | ||
| Alex makes himself mad when this guy is just saying, hey, I got the thing. | ||
| It was resolved. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Jay, you're on the air. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Hey, thanks, Alex. | ||
|
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I just wanted to say, when I called last week or a week and a half ago about the videos being late, and that day you called me back, and they were here in like four days, and I'm already making copies, and that's really great. | |
| Um, My only comment about that is I have a small staff and everything gets shipped out. | ||
| Sometimes we get an address wrong or something, and when somebody calls me and asks where are the videos, I can't help people because I'm on air, but I'm glad you got those, sir, and I'm glad you're... | ||
| You're making copies, and anytime anybody has a question, and we try to take the messages off it three times a day, and we try to answer it live, but it's impossible, it's 512-291-5750 to call my office, 512-291-5750. | ||
| And the phone rings off the hook with, the police are taking my children right now. | ||
| They're taking my land right now. | ||
| There's helicopters spraying us right now. | ||
| They had an urban warfare training drill where they beat people up. | ||
| Help us! | ||
| SWAT teams are writing the schools. | ||
| They're beating our children up. | ||
| They put cameras up in my neighborhood. | ||
| Help me! | ||
| Call me! | ||
| And it's just millions. | ||
| I have millions of listeners. | ||
| I've got three employees. | ||
| I'm pulling my hair out, brother. | ||
| So what's on your mind? | ||
| Thanks for the tapes! | ||
| I think you should get some other phone lines. | ||
| You should get different phone lines for different things. | ||
| If it's a customer support issue, you shouldn't have it be the same phone number as some weirdo who's calling you about how they're spraying them right now. | ||
| I mean, maybe even a toll-free number might even be nice. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Hey, also... | ||
| The fact that you're getting all of these calls doesn't mean that all of these things are happening. | ||
| It could be that you have a bunch of callers who are calling in and telling you things that are not true, but are actually just manifestations of the paranoid fantasies that you encourage. | ||
| Oh man, I would love to take your call and help you with your issues. | ||
| It would be so good. | ||
| But I've got too many calls telling me about things that aren't happening. | ||
| How could I possibly get to that phone call? | ||
| I have too many intense calls about traumatic, weird things that probably aren't happening. | ||
| I also like how he works himself up over it. | ||
| It goes from just being like, you know, it's good. | ||
| Sometimes we have difficult times and you're like, reasonable? | ||
| That's totally fine. | ||
| I'm not mad. | ||
| It's resolved. | ||
| Everything's good. | ||
| And now these people are calling me and everybody's always calling me and there's calls coming from here and from here and everywhere and now you're calling me about customer service shit! | ||
| And anyways... | ||
| Now, the reality, too, is that the calls that he's getting are only coming in because he's situated himself in the marketplace as the guy who cares about these things. | ||
| He has to take those calls because otherwise those people will find somebody else to glom onto who enable their bizarre fantasies about the coming UN troops and FEMA camps and what have you. | ||
| Yeah, Alex thinks he's complaining about other people when in reality he's complaining about himself. | ||
| And then taking it out on other people, which, as we all know, is healthy, good behavior. | ||
| And that's what he does. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And it's just the way to treat people, you know? | ||
| It's just good. | ||
| You, you know, hey, yeah. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| So, this is just dumb. | ||
| They are designing the system to bankrupt the working class, and you cannot live and do anything. | ||
| I know people with three jobs, and they're losing everything they got. | ||
| They have designed the system where unless you're an illegal alien, live in 10 to a house, you can't survive in this economy. | ||
| A depression is when you're out of work. | ||
| A recession is when your neighbor is out of work. | ||
| We're in a massive recession, a depressionary system, folks. | ||
| And I've seen it with my own eyes. | ||
| Thanks for the call. | ||
| Yeah, so the Americans and the middle class are being destroyed by design while the illegals living tend to a house. | ||
| They're the ones who society is built for. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Maybe we should work to get them a living wage. | ||
| Yeah, fuck off. | ||
| And also the... | ||
| The economy was doing quite well at the end of 2003 and 2004. | ||
| It was growth. | ||
| It was not a depressionary recession. | ||
| It wasn't until 2007 that all the credit default swaps kind of got caught out and then everybody was like, oh, they're all lying to us. | ||
| And then after that, we didn't do anything and now we're never going to have that happen again. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If Alex were to say something along the lines of like, there's trouble coming down the road four or five years from now. | ||
| Then that would be like, oh, that's interesting. | ||
| But for him to be presenting it as, like, this is the current condition is just super inaccurate for the end of 2003 in particular. | ||
| Like, it's bizarre. | ||
| I mean, what's wild about it, though, is that if he had predicted that one, what a great, like, they're going to tank the economy right before the presidential election in order to influence who wins the vote. | ||
| And that's exactly what happened. | ||
| The economy tanked right before the election. | ||
| And it influenced who won the vote. | ||
| But he didn't predict that. | ||
| Well, I'm sure he did. | ||
| Because he always predicts the summer of rage and everything. | ||
| I don't think he predicted that one. | ||
| But even the way you're presenting that needs a little bit of a tweak. | ||
| Because you're saying that is what happened. | ||
| But you also said that they tanked the economy as opposed to the economy tanked. | ||
| Yeah, they did. | ||
| They did tank the economy. | ||
| To the actions of those people. | ||
| Right. | ||
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But not necessarily like, hey, we're going to tank the economy for the explicit purpose of... | |
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Like most actual conspiracies of the real kind. | ||
| It was not about solving anything politically or doing anything to hurt people. | ||
| It was about making a shit ton of money and then it went wrong. | ||
| And that's how conspiracies actually work. | ||
| A lot of times. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So I don't know if you'd agree with this characterization of George W. Bush. | ||
| I think you might take one, two, or three, maybe four issues with this. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I know we have loaded phone lines to talk about the economy. | ||
| Patriot Act 2 being passed quietly last weekend. | ||
| Signed by Lord Bush. | ||
| The neocon leader, the gun-grabbing, open-border-promoting, China-worshipping, Taiwan-hating creature. | ||
| So what do you got? | ||
| I think I got five out of that one. | ||
| Okay, gun-grabber? | ||
| He didn't grab guns. | ||
| No, but Alex at this point is still saying that he's going to re-sign the assault weapons ban, which didn't happen, and then he's going to take everyone's guns. | ||
| I'll give him neocon. | ||
| That obviously counts. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Open borders? | ||
| No. | ||
| Definitely not. | ||
| Definitely not. | ||
| I don't know why he hated... | ||
| He didn't hate Taiwan. | ||
| No, but at this point, Alex is saying that he's abandoned Taiwan. | ||
| He's abandoned Taiwan? | ||
| Yeah, that's a big talking point that Alex has. | ||
| Sure, Alex cares about Taiwan. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Loves China. | ||
| Loves China? | ||
| That one... | ||
| I don't think he loved China. | ||
| I think we were in a serious competition situation there. | ||
| He definitely doesn't love China the way that Alex is expressing that. | ||
| That's 100% certain. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then I think there was one more. | ||
| Do you want to hear it again? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, let's go through that. | ||
| Let's go through the list one more time. | ||
| We have loaded phone lines to talk about the economy, Patriot Act 2 being passed quietly last weekend, signed by Lord Bush, the neocon leader, the gun-grabbing, open-border-promoting, China-worshipping, Taiwan-hating creature. | ||
| No, I think that's... | ||
| What? | ||
| Oh, you got a finger up. | ||
| Leader. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I thought you were a creature. | ||
| He was not the neocon leader by any stretch of the imagination. | ||
| That's a man who took his orders the way he was told to. | ||
| Entitled, perhaps. | ||
| Entitled, yes. | ||
| That might be accurate. | ||
| But this characterization is so incredibly off-base from reality that I was thinking about it, and it's like, well, this is just how you do it when you're someone like Alex. | ||
| Because to him... | ||
| Anybody who isn't a gun absolutist who's out campaigning with two machine guns, they are a gun grabber. | ||
| Anybody who is not as far that side as Alex is a gun grabber. | ||
| Anybody who has any tolerance for immigration wants open borders. | ||
| So that is how that translates. | ||
| to Alex it feels like these things are accurate characterizations of this person and so it's it's not so much a lie as it is a distortion. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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It's a reality warping distortion. | |
| In a sense, if you allow any immigration, you do want open borders. | ||
| And so if you allow trade, you have not figured... | ||
| Physically closed off the country, made sure that the borders are covered by walls, and then shoot anybody who steps near the country. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| But politically speaking, the term open borders means free travel for anyone across. | ||
| And that's what he's trying to accuse. | ||
| Bush of. | ||
| And this is so consistent with Alex. | ||
| That whole idea of you can't really talk about things unless you agree about definitions of things. | ||
| This is where that really is true. | ||
| Because if you tried to have a conversation with Alex about Bush grabbing guns and stuff, you couldn't possibly. | ||
| Because you're just dealing with the term completely differently. | ||
| And I think that extends to... | ||
| A hundred percent of the things Alex talks about? | ||
| Yes, one hundred percent. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| I think that's maybe one of the big reasons why it's almost pointless to try and talk to him about any issues. | ||
| Debating him or debating people like him is just kind of like, it's a fruitless exercise. | ||
| You just don't agree on reality. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's why one of the most annoying things about it is that... | ||
| It works both ways, except the other side apparently has no understanding of that. | ||
| Like, if that's what you're going to be called, you have permission to go as far left as you fucking want. | ||
| It doesn't matter if you're going to be called an open borders person, whether you have some immigration or all immigration or whatever it is you want. | ||
| Shoot for the fucking moon! | ||
| It's what they're going to call you anyways. | ||
| You might as well be it. | ||
| Well, yeah, I mean, that's something that a lot of people have kind of wrestled with, especially with the Bernie Sanders campaign of the, like, is he marketable because he's a socialist? | ||
| Is it possible that this is a detriment? | ||
| They're going to call anybody a socialist. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
|
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Call Biden a socialist. | |
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Call him a communist. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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The only people who are saying that about Bernie are people who already don't want Bernie because he calls himself a socialist. | |
| Or maybe some people who have, like, they're well-intentioned but maybe don't understand Yeah, possible. | ||
| I think that might be some percentage. | ||
| True. | ||
| So we actually only have one more clip here. | ||
| Ooh. | ||
| Short episode today. | ||
| A lot of boring calls. | ||
| A lot of nonsense. | ||
| I can see that. | ||
| And so this is just a clip where we check in on one of the trends and the threads that goes throughout the 2003. | ||
| The Hussein kids? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Still no update on that. | ||
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It's incredible. | |
| I mean, one day they're calling it a brutal regime, and the next day they're hiring the people from this brutal regime to go out. | ||
| And kill people. | ||
| And they quietly put about two-thirds of the Bathurst back in power. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| What is it going to take? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What is it going to take? | ||
| Does he still think the Bathursts are in power? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Are the Bathursts in power now? | ||
| In 2023? | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Now I've been gaslit so much. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| The first order of the Coalition Provisional Authority was literally, quote, debathification of Iraqi society. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This was a gigantic priority of the U.S.-led government, and it was a very flawed policy. | ||
| I understand that I may be bringing this up a bunch as we go through this time frame, but I think it's important to recognize that in addition to all the many instances of things that Alex is wrong about, there are also narratives like this that he has just constructed a reality to sell his audience that are the inverse of the real world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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He's getting mad about the CPA putting the Bathurst back into power, so he should conceivably be glad to hear that this is not, in fact, happening I think this goes a long way towards clearing up why Alex is so insistent on this false reality here. | |
| Alex is trapped. | ||
| Imagine that he acknowledges the real world and debathification. | ||
| He needs to have an angle on it and nothing works. | ||
| Alex isn't equipped to express opposition to debathification and has already been in the world. | ||
| told the audience repeatedly that Saddam and his party are essentially globalist CIA shills. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Supporting debathification is even worse, since the architects of that plan are the very people he spends all day on air decrying his secret Trotskyites. | ||
| People like Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz. | ||
| Alex can't be on the same page as them. | ||
| His only real option is to pretend it's all fake, which is what he's done by constructing the illusion that two-thirds of the math party members are being put into power in December 2003. | ||
| In some ways, Alex is lazy and stupid, but sometimes he's doing the only thing he can within the confines he's restricted himself to thanks to his laziness and stupidity. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| I don't even know if I think that that's a conscious process or anything, but I'm looking at this and it does make sense that those angles are just roads that are blocked. | ||
| There isn't any way to proceed forward on those roads, whereas this one... | ||
| You can go down it. | ||
| It's a dumb road. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you can't use a real... | ||
| Like, Alex can't have a real complaint about D-Bath. | ||
| He can't be like, okay, well, listen, this doesn't make sense. | ||
| You're going to piss off a lot of people and put them out of jobs simultaneously, and you're going to let it be overseen by a racist moron. | ||
| That's not a good idea. | ||
| Alex can't say that, obviously. | ||
| That would be too real. | ||
| Yeah, he... | ||
| He's on a bind. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| He's way behind. | ||
| What a terrible idea that was. | ||
| Looking to make a deal. | ||
| God damn it, Dan. | ||
| Well, I mean, look, it's a short episode. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I could... | ||
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Look for a soul to... | |
| Steal? | ||
| No, I mean, I was thinking I could recite some Will Smith literature. | ||
| Listen, this is not going to become a segment on the show. | ||
| This is not happening. | ||
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This is not our new bit for 2023. | |
| Absolutely not. | ||
| This is not our blackjack. | ||
| The good guys dress in black. | ||
| Remember that. | ||
| Just in case we're ever face-to-face and make contact. | ||
| We're padding things out now. | ||
| And I don't remember the rest of the lyrics to Men in Black. | ||
| Anyway, yeah, a shorter episode today, but it is what it is. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Got a lot of plates I'm spinning right now, so hopefully we'll be... | ||
| Oh, get this. | ||
| What? | ||
| Can't say. | ||
| No, should I tease this? | ||
| Maybe I should. | ||
| Obviously you should tease this! | ||
| I just got my hands on. | ||
| More Rob Dew depositions. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| So there may be some... | ||
| More Dew positions! | ||
| Look at all these plates I got. | ||
| We got the live shows, we got Rob Dew depositions, we got other things. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Man. | ||
| You are a busy fella. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But it's exciting, and I guess it'll cut into my ability to play Fire Emblem. | ||
| Nah, that's fair. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| We'll make do. | ||
| Anything can happen. | ||
| Anyway, Jordan, we'll be back. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| But we have a website. | ||
| We do have a website. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| But I'm also Dan. | ||
| And I'm a little bit concerned about Alex's... | ||
| He doesn't get to travel enough. | ||
| Thank you, Dan. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Thank you for your concern and that offer. | ||
| I do want to come to Tennessee. | ||
| I do want to go to Rhode Island. | ||
| I do want to go to Arkansas. | ||
| I do want to go to California. | ||
| And now here comes the sex robot. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |