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Jan. 2, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
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#762: December 31, 2022

Jordan Holmes and Dan Friesen dissect Alex Jones’ December 31, 2022 episode, where he frantically pitches $99 signed books, a paywalled documentary platform, and claims a $250K monthly shortfall—despite past failures like Prison Planet TV—while tying COVID-19 deaths to "biomedical tyranny" and the UN. His wild metaphors (Fauci as a "satanic maggot") and misrepresented clips (Keanu Reeves’ Matrix discussion) expose fear-driven theatrics over facts, like his unfounded "23" Illuminati theory linking the Queen’s funeral to Rat Singer’s death. The hosts mock his retreat to the woods for "clarity," calling it performative, as he defaults to emotional manipulation—selling merch, begging for funds, and promising extreme 2023 predictions (Putin assassinations? Bioweapons?)—while Andy from Kansas joins as a first-time caller, reinforcing Jones’ dwindling but loyal audience. The episode reveals a pattern of desperation, conspiracy shortcuts, and hollow spectacle over substance. [Automatically generated summary]

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alex jones
infowars 36:45
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dan friesen
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jordan holmes
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keanu reeves
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
alex jones
Shang, we are the bad guys.
unidentified
Knowledge.
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need money.
Andy and Pansy.
Andy and Pandy.
Stop it.
Andy and Kansas.
Andy and Kansas.
unidentified
Andy.
alex jones
It's time to pray.
Andy and Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fish fan color and my huge fans.
alex jones
I love your room.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
alex jones
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're Gibble Dudes.
Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you, buddy.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot this new year?
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
My first bright spot of the year.
Jordan, today it is.
I finally, I've been resistant to join CBB World, the comedy bang bang sort of subscription thing.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Because I resent the idea of it.
Yeah.
I resent all of the earwolf business models and everything sort of funneling people into this service.
And then, you know, they had the howl.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then it went into Stitcher.
And then it just seems like, get your shit together.
What?
What the fuck is going on with all this?
This, like, hey, what's under this cup?
Oh, another subscription that you should have.
jordan holmes
I mean, the problem is, it's not surprising that these creative people are bad businessmen.
The problem is they're trying to be businessmen in the first place.
What are you guys doing?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I'm sure there's information that I'm not privy to, and there's some sort of an explanation.
I don't know what it is.
But anyway, I'm deeply resentful.
Of course.
But I finally signed up, and the reason was because I didn't realize that there was a show that Tim Baltz does.
His character Randy Snuts.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He has a show called Hey Randy, and it's the best.
Okay.
It's so good.
I don't know what it is.
First of all, Tim Baltz is just amazing.
Sure.
I think I've talked about how when I first moved to Chicago, every Sunday night, me and my buddy Dan Shar would go to the family tree houseboat accident at IO, Tim Baltz and a couple other dudes, their improv show.
Yeah.
And he's just, he's brilliant and so funny.
And this character, there's just something about it.
This dirtbag guy, it's just, it's very relatable and his instincts are just so goddamn sharp.
And the rest of the people who are on the show too are just, it's.
Of course.
Very few things are like really laugh out loud kind of things.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
They get like gut guttural.
jordan holmes
Don't I know it.
dan friesen
And man, it's just the best.
jordan holmes
Literally my entire career is trying to make you laugh and it's not easy.
I've done what?
We've done 780.
I've got four or five good ones.
dan friesen
780 was the missed number that I did.
jordan holmes
I got four or five good ones in there.
I'm pretty proud of those.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I think that's a good battlefield, honestly.
dan friesen
I mean, you shouldn't feel bad.
It's a low number and compare it to other folks.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
It's on curve.
dan friesen
But yeah, anyway, hey, Randy.
Great, great fantastic.
The last one came out in like November, and I really hope that they're going to make more of them because there's only nine and they're all fantastic.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Need to make more.
jordan holmes
You had to subscribe for nine episodes.
Get to work, man.
dan friesen
Well, I'm trying to find some other stuff that might be worthwhile on there.
There's more of the bananas for bonanza.
jordan holmes
Of course, of course.
Yeah, whenever they took that behind the paywall, I was weeping.
Weeping uncontrollably.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Well, there's more of it there.
Of course.
Anyway, what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is I have absolutely torn through Ken Liu's The Grace of Kings books.
Fan fucking tastic.
Cannot recommend them enough.
What he does is he takes the 100 schools period of Chinese philosophy between 400 and 100 BCE, somewhere around there, and kind of anthropomorphizes it into a fantasy version of China around that time period.
And instead of Confucianism running roughshod over everybody else, because they have all the weapons, in this situation, Taoism actually kind of has greater sway, along with, I mean, it's fantastic.
Okay.
Sorry.
I get really excited.
dan friesen
I thought you were going to finish a thought.
jordan holmes
I know, I know.
dan friesen
And that's why I was sort of not responding.
I was letting you go.
And then I got confused.
jordan holmes
You were doing great.
dan friesen
This is not an end to the thought.
jordan holmes
You were doing great.
You were doing great.
Let me condense it a lot better.
Okay.
There is a historian in the 20th century.
Yes.
For my money, the greatest historian of the 20th century.
dan friesen
Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Dr. Feng Yulan.
Okay.
He wrote the history of Chinese philosophy.
And when I say the, I mean like literally.
He is the most important philosopher.
Like he did it.
He synthesized the history of Eastern philosophy and the history of Western philosophy.
dan friesen
He put them together.
He's amazing.
jordan holmes
I believe you.
Anyways, I've never read anybody who's all, I've never met anybody or talked to anybody who's also read all of Dr. Feng Yulan and reading this quadrilogy, the first time I've ever met somebody who understands it.
It's amazing.
dan friesen
It's amazing.
I can see why you have this exciting time.
jordan holmes
It's very lonely.
It's very lonely whenever you care so hard about something.
dan friesen
Well, here's the good news.
Maybe somebody who's out there listening might connect with that and maybe you'll make a new friend.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm excited.
dan friesen
About your weird niche interests.
jordan holmes
It's not niche.
It is literally the fundamental.
I would never, honestly, I would never argue philosophy with anybody if I didn't have that book open and ready because it's everything.
The 100 schools period is all of it.
It's all of it.
I mean, anyways, what I'm saying is anytime somebody says philosophy and a white person said it, I discount it immediately.
dan friesen
For me, that's too many schools.
jordan holmes
Well, that's also kind of why they got it all.
You know, they had more schools.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know, Greece only had a few schools.
True.
dan friesen
Yeah, they had the 23 schools period.
jordan holmes
23 skidoo schools.
dan friesen
Yes.
So, Jordan, today we have an episode.
It's the new year.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Hey, we're recording this on January 1st.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
2023.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
We needed.
jordan holmes
Is that our new bet for 2023?
No, no, we're in trouble.
dan friesen
But I decided: hey, what do we do?
We got to send off 2022.
Sure.
You know, even though we are in 2023 as we're recording this, we're still emotionally closing up the book that was 2022.
jordan holmes
There's no closure on it yet.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And thankfully, Alex Jones on Saturday, December 31st, put out an episode, Final Broadcast of the Year.
And so I said, hey, final broadcast of the year seems like a perfect way to close the book.
jordan holmes
That's what we got to do.
dan friesen
Exactly.
So today we're going to be discussing Alex's Saturday emergency last broadcast of 2022.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And we'll see.
We'll see.
I mean, as we go through this, I'll allow you to determine whether or not this rises to the level of needing an emergency broadcast.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Maybe it does.
Maybe it doesn't.
jordan holmes
We'll see how much money he makes at the end of it will determine whether or not it was successful, right?
dan friesen
If he doesn't make a ton of money, it's not for lack of trying.
jordan holmes
That's kind of what I was thinking.
alex jones
That's kind of what I was thinking.
dan friesen
Is swinging.
Anyway, we'll get down to business on this, but before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So, first, the magic salami spoiled his birthday surprise by becoming a policy wonk.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Ultra Kill's most insignificant fuck.
Thank you so much.
You are an Iowa Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Richard from Portslade asks: Am I alone in noticing that the Red Alert theme song samples wrong impression by Natalie Imbruglia?
Thank you so much, you're an Iowa Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
This has come up many times.
It has come up a lot.
Might as well address it on the show itself.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The string portion of that is in the Natalie and Bruglia song.
It is also the theme song from Alex's Endgame documentary.
And the reason is because it is a sample string cut that is in editing software.
And that is where they all ended up getting it from.
So it's like one of those pre-built-in string.
jordan holmes
Let's bring it back down to you and I both know why.
A little bit lazy, a little bit easy.
dan friesen
But it also sounds good in the Natalie and Brugia song.
unidentified
Totally.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Sounds fine in Endgame.
I'm not mad at it.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So next, a happy birthday from Jules to Waffles.
Thank you so much.
You're an Iowa Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a Policy Wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
A little late on that one or early.
jordan holmes
Come on.
dan friesen
And Beefhouse.
Thank you so much.
You're an Iowa Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a Policy Wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
Yeah, if it's just Beefhouse, you end with Beefhouse.
dan friesen
Evergreen.
jordan holmes
Evergreen.
dan friesen
And we got a Technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to quoting past and present Technocrat drops got Carissa and Marcus to the summit of Mount Kilimanjaro.
Thank you so much.
You are now a Technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
I have risen above my enemies.
I might quit tomorrow, actually.
I'm just going to take a little breaky now.
A little breaky for me.
And then we're going to come back.
And I'm going to start the show over.
But I'm the devil.
I got to be taking off here.
I'll be all this.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit.
Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again.
That's really what I want to do.
I never want to come back here again.
I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air.
I'll be better tomorrow.
dan friesen
He's not really.
But also, that was fortuitous, the name in that drop, because Carissa is also the name of Randy Snutz's duplicitous and scandalous on-again, off-again girlfriend.
jordan holmes
I'm just blown away.
Here's what I needed to start 2023, Dan.
The idea of someone standing at the summit of Mount Kilimanjaro screaming, Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent is that's what we've made an impact.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
We've made an impact.
dan friesen
Through the canyons, echo the words, loser little titty baby.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Yep.
So I'd like to apologize in advance for this out of control.
This is mostly just in case Dan Arkey wants to put this in a song.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
alex jones
It's party time.
I'm going to get in your guts.
jordan holmes
No!
No!
alex jones
Not good.
jordan holmes
No!
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
Nope.
But you can easily see where that fits into.
That's going to be subtract.
So here we go.
We're going to start off the episode with Alex's emergency.
Saturday, his day off.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
He's coming in.
How cool.
Such important stuff going on.
alex jones
Here we are on the final broadcast, the final emergency transmission of this insanely dangerous, brutal, but also important year for awakening, 2022.
Thank you for joining us on this New Year's Eve emergency transmission.
The quickening's here.
The political, the cultural, the spiritual, the economic planets are aligning.
Everybody from the Pope has died.
Barbara Walters has died.
jordan holmes
Nazi Pope died.
alex jones
I want to do a somewhat of a year and review the giant stories and earth-changing events that have happened versus the distractionary things that are unfolding as well.
And I want to look at the globalist rollout of their climate lockdowns that are now being initiated and how important it is, wherever you are in the world, to fight back against those and not submit to it.
dan friesen
Not sure that the former Pope and Barbara Walters dying requires an emergency episode, but we all rationalize our actions in our own ways.
jordan holmes
He was the first Pope to step down for several hundred years.
Nobody knew if he was ever going to die or not.
You don't know.
He's Pope.
dan friesen
Could be a loophole.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Considering that Walters was 93 and Pope Benedict was 95, this seems like two very predictable and unsurprising public figure deaths.
But it's interesting to hear Alex so interested in talking about the big important news and complaining about all the distractions.
Generally speaking, I completely agree.
There are way too many distractions in the world and particularly in the media.
But where we split paths is that I can say with absolute certainty that at least 75% of Alex's content is meaningless distractions that he's just reporting based on a tweet or a meme or something.
Almost nothing he covers means anything.
And more often than not, he's just making shit up.
I would challenge anyone who loves Alex's show and thinks his content means anything to go back and listen to his episodes from earlier in this year and marvel at how many things were emergencies that mysteriously resolved themselves and were never mentioned again.
Alex's business model relies on constant distraction because if he doesn't keep the audience hyper-stimulated, there is a serious risk that they'll start questioning some of the basic details of the stories he covers and realize that he's full of shit.
And there aren't any climate lockdowns.
But that is probably important branding to look out for in the future from the folks who are looking for a new place to put that anti-COVID lockdown energy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
If you can't keep the COVID, you got to keep the lockdown.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, it makes sense.
dan friesen
And I imagine here's the way my brain sort of like sees what's going to happen.
It's like, it's going to be 130 in Arizona.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
And people are going to be like, don't go outside.
jordan holmes
Oh, we're climate lockdowning again.
If you don't go outside, then you're letting the government tell you that your skin can burn.
dan friesen
I predict that that'll be like maybe part of the rationalization or where the rubber meets the road.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is the problem with climate change is that like Barbara Walters and the Pope dying, you can be like, yeah, there's going to be 140 degree temperatures in Arizona soon.
dan friesen
There's a certain inevitability.
Yep.
And so, you know, we don't want to sit on the distractions here.
We want to talk about the big stories.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But what are the big stories?
unidentified
Good question.
alex jones
But to try to chronicle this year is a dizzying prospect.
What are the biggest issues of the year?
jordan holmes
It would cost you $1.5 billion to re-elect.
alex jones
Well, it's admitted that there is a globally coordinated, UN-controlled mass censorship program surveilling and suppressing the people of this planet to bring in incredible draconian authoritarian tyranny.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So that could be the top story of the year.
jordan holmes
I mean, I would assume that is the top story of the year.
That seems to take primacy.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
Well, it's the first thing you mentioned.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't know if this is accurate.
jordan holmes
Is anybody doing that?
dan friesen
The UN, you mean?
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, honestly, is anybody doing that?
Even if it wasn't the UN.
dan friesen
I don't know.
That could be the top story.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
He's not saying it is.
He's sort of spitballing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This reminded me of the lead up to who is the most important person in the world.
There's a lot of that.
There was a little bit of that vibe.
It doesn't go that far, but he does like, is this the top story of the year?
jordan holmes
I was going to say, are we going to hear me in 45 minutes going, what is the top story?
dan friesen
I thought we were going to go that direction, but it's just a little bit of a little teas.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah.
There's a giant awakening that is cascading and exploding into bigger and bigger finales.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Is that the biggest story?
Is the biggest story that in the last 12 months, the back has been broken of the biomedical tyranny, and that it's come out that they knowingly created COVID-19 and rolled out a poison shot, and now it's confirmed upwards of 20 million people dead from the injections?
Or is it Russia on February 24th invading Ukraine after eight years of the West proxy war, enticing Putin to take that dangerous plunge while being on the precipice of thermonuclear war on the ladder of the Rand Corporation's escalation chart?
dan friesen
I'm not particularly into year-end lists trying to quantify what the biggest story of the year was.
I find that stuff to kind of be a distraction.
But if Alex wants to play that game, he's welcome to.
And by the way, the thing that I think you could say he lands on is that there's an awakening going on as the top story.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds about right.
dan friesen
Who read it?
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Also, none of the stuff he's saying is true.
And perhaps more importantly, these are instances of stories that Alex reported very differently at different points of the year.
COVID is basically an evergreen narrative for him where every day some new blog post or substack article finally proves all his conspiracies correct and vindicates him forever.
It's a fascinating improv game where he finds new ways to be proven right every day, forcing his audience to pretend he hadn't already been proven right yesterday.
jordan holmes
New and different ways to be proven right about different things simultaneously.
dan friesen
We found the 40th smoking gun.
jordan holmes
Oh my God.
dan friesen
Amazing.
jordan holmes
So many fucking guns.
dan friesen
And then with Russia, Alex has had to modify his story about that invasion repeatedly over the course of the year because he kept being wrong.
Before the invasion, Alex was certain that it wasn't going to happen.
And at most, Putin was going to annex the Donbass, which was actually Russia anyway.
So he had the right to do that.
It's totally cool.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, no big deal.
dan friesen
Then the war started, and Alex has gotten solid intel that Zelensky was a Putin double agent and that Russia had paid off all the Ukrainian generals who would just submit and the war would be over in a day or two.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one was close.
dan friesen
As the war dragged on and Alex was forced to come up with rationalizations for why he wasn't wrong and why Putin was right to invade, he bounced around to a bunch of different storylines, but the most popular definitely seems to be the notion that Putin got suckered into invading by the West.
In order to distract listeners from questioning how wrong Alex has been about this at every step, he constantly talks about how nuclear war is just right around the corner so he can heighten things to a ridiculous level and be able to fall back on something like, you want to split hairs when nukes are right around the corner?
It's just a silly game.
I'm excited for a year in review type experience here, though.
You know, it'll be fun to hear Alex lie about everything he's done and said this year.
I mean, unfortunately, we don't get that.
jordan holmes
It's kind of insane.
It's a little bit like if Pitchfork ran all of their album reviews, right?
But they just made up the albums like they didn't actually exist.
And then in their year-end list of the top 30 albums of the year, they just made up 30 completely different albums of like anagrams of the previous ones.
That's about what is happening.
dan friesen
Or even like in addition to that, you'd have like an album that they reviewed harshly at the beginning of the year.
unidentified
And then everyone's loved it, so they edited it upwards.
jordan holmes
Holy shit, we loved it too.
I don't know what asshole was saying.
It sucked.
dan friesen
That review didn't happen.
I didn't write that.
jordan holmes
I've never heard of that one.
dan friesen
So there's some severe things here to reflect upon at the end of the year.
The border is gone.
That's one of them.
jordan holmes
Wait, already?
alex jones
It's the year where they admittedly just got rid of the border completely.
It's the year Fauci, finally, after 45 years, slinked away.
jordan holmes
That's one way of putting it.
alex jones
It's been a really insane year.
But we're not really about focusing most of our attention on the past.
We study the past, we cover the past, we cover how the lines of history intersect together and bring us to where we are currently.
But more importantly, InfoWars is known for looking into the future and predicting what is going to come in the days and weeks and months and years ahead, and how we are not just pawns on the chessboard that don't have any will,
but we can decide to be major players in the destiny of humanity and God's great plan for us.
And we'll simply accept the mission.
dan friesen
We're about to find out what the secret of 2017 is, my man.
unidentified
Oh, God.
dan friesen
We're going to get to it finally.
jordan holmes
Is it Megan Kelly?
dan friesen
It is.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
InfoWars is not about looking backwards.
It's about predicting the future.
jordan holmes
Our breaking news story is three years old, however.
I will admit that.
We have just broken a story published three years ago in the New York Times.
So there is that.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's this is this is silly, but it's a fun way to look at yourself.
And I understand why Alex's sort of self-perception would be this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's more way more fun.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we have basically this as the preamble, the beginning of the show, talking about what is the top story of the year.
Maybe it's this.
Maybe it's that.
The border is gone.
Fauci slunk off or retired.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
There's a few different ways of putting the same thing.
dan friesen
But really, what ends up taking up the most of the beginning of the show is just long talk about how you got to give Alex money.
alex jones
But we need to now look up the nuts and bolts of their programs that have gone from beta into operational.
So we're going to do that first after I mention some of what's coming up after that.
And then we're going to continue on here today.
But please remember, this is a very special thing that was built by God's providence and inspiration and by millions and millions of people spreading the word and telling the truth and supporting this broadcast.
And it is reviled and hated by the enemies of the people, by the corporate press, by the corrupt law firms, by the corrupt governments, by the auto-control, power-hungry corporations and intelligence agencies.
They know.
And one little podcast out of Chicago that InfoWars has been the most important nexus point or focal point of light in the gathering darkness.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
And as the darkness intensifies, our light will also stand out even stronger.
And that's why they want that light snuffed out immediately.
And that's why you have to let it burn into your brain, burn into your psyche, burn into your guts.
You should have chills going up your spine, realizing how important you are.
In just the last 48 hours.
InfoWars has had the largest brute force attack in our history.
It was 200 plus million yesterday morning.
The brute force attacks went up to 2 billion requests.
There's only 8 million people on the planet.
And you would look at the attack and say, well, it's a primitive attack, but it's not.
It's millions of computers hijacked.
Thousands of operatives.
jordan holmes
It's 2023 now.
Everyone knows what a bot network is.
alex jones
To then flood InfoWars with two DDoS attack, please.
unidentified
Two billion finish requests.
jordan holmes
A sentence.
alex jones
And of course, they weren't targeting InfoWars.com.
They were targeting InfoWarsStore.com.
jordan holmes
Those bastards.
alex jones
InfowarsStore.com.
The security's there.
The site is awesome.
Your purchases are completely safe.
They haven't gotten into the website.
They're not trying to get away from it.
jordan holmes
Why would you think that?
alex jones
We have maximum security on it, some of the biggest firms in the world.
They're just flooding it so that no matter how big the servers or how big the cloud, it gets overwhelmed by 2 billion requests.
We're talking millions of requests every few minutes.
dan friesen
Don't you get it?
Don't you get it?
They can't handle the idea that you would give Alex money.
They can't handle the idea that people would support Alex and his bright light shining in the darkness.
And so they do these massive DDoS attacks on the store.
Not on the actual website, on the store.
They got to take out the store.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And the only way to fight back against that, go to the store and buy all the stuff.
jordan holmes
Go to the store and buy more stuff.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And $2 billion, this DDoS attack, something that sophisticated has got to be a state actor.
Probably the UN.
jordan holmes
Like, I have no idea why anyone would think that the InfoWars store is safe with their information.
This year, we've had a million different massive corporations hacked and like millions of passwords and information released all over the place.
Why would InfoWars have better security than any of them?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, look, I think you judge some of that stuff by like surrounding context.
You know, like you see InfoWars and you're like, this is a tight ship.
This is the kind of place that, you know, crosses their T's, dots their I's.
They're on top of shit.
jordan holmes
If there's one thing I think about when I think InfoWars, I think detail and thoroughness.
dan friesen
I don't think I would trust them with a dummy address.
No, absolutely.
jordan holmes
No, I'd be worried.
I'd be worried they'd find some way to get my real address just by looking at it.
dan friesen
If I opened a completely clean new email address, I don't think I would trust them with that.
Absolutely.
None of my information attached to it.
But yeah, so they had this DDoS attack.
unidentified
But it's resolved now, so you can go and give Alex money.
dan friesen
You can go buy his shit now.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
You can go to the store.
I don't know.
He does this a lot.
I mean, like, maybe there was a DDoS attack of some sort.
I'm not sure about the 2 billion number.
That seems excessive.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, yeah, I mean, he has this a bit.
I mean, I think he just has bad Security.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds about right.
dan friesen
Bad Cloudflare protection over there.
jordan holmes
I mean, I'm fine with that.
That makes sense.
dan friesen
So there's some sales going on, of course.
One of them is something that I thought was sold out like six months ago.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Think about how important that is: that the enemies of freedom are desperate to block you from going to InfowarStore.com and getting great products that boost your immune system and make you healthier and wealthier.
jordan holmes
InfowarWarStore.com.
alex jones
It's so important for you and your family and everybody to get them.
And while you're there, get a signed or unsigned copy of my book, The Great Reset and War for the World, that is the Death Star plans of the Globalist.
By the way, we have a fundraiser going where you can buy the regular book for 20-something bucks, hardcover, and support the broadcast.
If you really want to support us, we're selling signed copies for $99.
Just like NPR gets billions of taxpayer money a year, but they still do fundraisers and drives.
We don't get taxpayer money or any globalist money.
We have you supporting us.
And so they'll sell a coffee cup for 50 bucks or a t-shirt for $100 or a ball cap for $50.
And of course, you know, the ball cap didn't cost that.
You know, the coffee mug didn't cost that.
It's a token, a sign that you were supportive at a key juncture and a piece of history.
dan friesen
Look, I'm the most critical person of Alex in the world and of his business practices.
Even I have zero problem with him selling autographed books at a markup.
I have no idea why he feels the need to be defensive about this.
Maybe it's because there's a ridiculous level of price increase, but he's entitled to put a price on his time.
And if he wants to say that it's $70 for him to sign a book, that's his right to do so.
I have no problem with it.
jordan holmes
I mean, I look at, I have a paperback of Douglas Adams' The Long Dark Tea Time of the Soul, and I have a hardcover signed edition of The Long Dark Tea Time with the Soul.
I'll tell you what, I think one of them is worth more money.
dan friesen
Sure.
And if they were being sold, you would expect one of them to cost $10.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Incidentally, back when that book came out, Alex signed thousands of copies and wouldn't stop talking about how difficult it was and how they were all sold out.
That was supposed to be a limited availability thing, like his dumb silver coins, but I guess either they weren't sold out or there isn't a finite number of these signed books after all.
Just trying to exploit the audience's fear of missing out on the opportunity to own a piece of history by creating artificial scarcity among this shit.
Just sign the books and sell them, you asshole.
jordan holmes
You know, the thing about the stakes for him is that all of these sales pitches have the like depth of gravitas.
dan friesen
Well, it's an emergency break.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Of your St. Crispin's Day speech, but nobody's like, oh, when they're laying in their beds, won't they wish they had a signed copy of the info?
You know, it's like, this is not good.
This is not good.
dan friesen
No, it's not.
And Alex has this habit of undercutting some of these sales pitches because he's saying, like, you got to get this signed copy of the book.
But why would you do that once you hear this?
alex jones
We're going to have signed books for two more weeks, and then there will no longer be any more signed books of The Great Reset and The War for the World, except for one limited edition that I'm going to put out sometime in the future where I'm going to do a piece of original Alex Jones art and sign it and put it inside each book.
I don't know when I'm going to get around to that.
I want to.
People have requested that.
So there will be a limited number sometime in the future, a few thousand copies that'll be signed with art.
And then that's it.
No more signed copies of The Great Reset and The War for the World.
So if you want a signed copy, it's one of your last chances.
dan friesen
If you're thinking about buying a signed copy, like you'd obviously rather have the copy with some art in it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex does that S that everyone drew on their folders.
That's the art that he puts in there.
Yeah, I feel like that's an anti-sales pitch.
Like, I'll wait.
If I'm going to buy a book, I'll wait until you get it.
jordan holmes
Buy this thing now, but it'd be better if you bought it later for different.
unidentified
Cool.
jordan holmes
Why not buy it now and also buy it later?
But actually, the one that's more valuable is the one you buy later.
I got this paint by numbers kit of Hitler's dogs, you know, all of his dog paintings.
So, I'm going to put one of those and I'm going to sign it, Alex Jones, in each one of my books.
Wait, that doesn't sound right.
dan friesen
That would be valuable.
So, Alex, you know, eventually he's going to put some art in these books.
Sure.
Eventually, that's going to happen.
But he doesn't get, you know, he has these projects that he doesn't get done.
jordan holmes
It happens.
dan friesen
And in this clip, he discusses another project that he's going to get done, which I'm going to say he's never going to get done.
alex jones
This is your last chance to get it until that final offering comes out six months from now, or God knows when.
I'm so busy.
All our projects are six months to a year behind.
We have three or four big projects that are beyond nine months pregnant that will be getting done very, very soon.
I'm not complaining.
This is a total war.
I'm always putting out other fires and attacks where they distract me away from my main work, getting the information out.
And so I apologize to listeners that some of the projects we had planned already be launched six, seven, eight months ago have not gotten launched.
jordan holmes
Recently.
alex jones
That includes people that are founding member bought coins from 1776coin.com.
You're going to be getting all sorts of free deals and perks.
And you've already gotten emails with 50% off specials that nobody else gets them.
There's going to be a lot of other stuff.
I'm going to leave it at that that you're going to be getting exclusively for free because you are a 1776 founding member coin purchaser.
So we want to support the broadcast.
The fourth coin that really wasn't a founding member coin was a one-off we did of the Teddy Roosevelt Man the Arena.
There's a couple thousand of those coins left.
We're going to give founding member status to everybody that leaves their email there as well that wants to be sent information and material.
I mean, I'll just go ahead and tell you, I've been planning this for over a year.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound true.
alex jones
And I am going to start some commercial-free podcasts that are on a subscription site.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, what?
alex jones
Documentaries and special events and a bunch of other stuff.
It's all built.
It's already.
I just have not gone and started producing the media yet and the information, but a lot of really cool stuff.
That's going to be done.
And everybody that's a founding member is just going to be sent a free lifetime passcode to it.
Stuff like that.
dan friesen
This isn't going to work.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Why make a subscription site?
The problem isn't like, man, Alex doesn't put out enough content.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is not the problem.
dan friesen
It's not a problem that anybody has.
He can't fill his shows.
alex jones
Nope.
dan friesen
His shows are boring as shit.
jordan holmes
He doesn't have enough content.
Why is he putting out more non-content?
dan friesen
It's mostly rambling.
It's not like, ah, the good stuff behind this paywall.
jordan holmes
Furthermore, furthermore, yeah, I mean, there's no ad breaks because the whole thing is an ad.
It's all an ad.
The whole show is an ad.
It's all one big ad.
dan friesen
Right.
And a commercial-free podcast that's behind a paywall is like, if you put commercials in the thing that was behind a paywall, you're an asshole.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
It better be commercial-free if it's behind some kind of subscription service.
Yeah, but make no mistake.
He's still going to have commercials for his shit.
alex jones
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
In the stuff that's behind a paywall.
jordan holmes
Yeah, naturally.
dan friesen
This is silly.
I mean, look, we have the constant talk of, you know, there's going to be this show of all callers that's going to be coming out.
This is just, I don't know.
Infrastructure's there.
Great.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Doesn't sound like it.
Talent isn't there.
dan friesen
No.
And this is a step backwards.
Honestly, like, he used to have the Prison Planet TV thing that was the subscription service that had a lot of the video content in it and what have you.
This is a move back to his old model that clearly wasn't enough or didn't work in a way that this excessive sales shit does.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
It's just going to be chasing after diminishing returns, even if he follows through with it, which I don't think he will.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, if he follows through with it, the only other smart thing to do is wind everything else down.
You know, that's what you would have to do in this situation because he's not going to come back.
dan friesen
But that's antithetical to the way that he presents himself as if he wants to get all the information out.
jordan holmes
Can't wind that out.
dan friesen
If you want to get the information out and you want to have an awakening among the masses, then your shit shouldn't be behind a paywall.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Because then you're selecting for who has access to that information.
jordan holmes
And that's just a couple people with enough money and a lack of intelligence enough to spend it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I feel like this is bad for him from a sort of subtle messaging perspective.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
And it's also bad from a financial perspective because no one is interested in that.
And if the people who bought the founding member coins are going to get free subscriptions to this anyway, those are the people who would have bought the subscription.
Yep.
So there's nothing here.
jordan holmes
You've already cut your entire listener base down.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
To size.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But, and not just that, but I mean, everybody can see with the way that this is going how desperate sounding it is.
Like, hey, if you were a 1776 founding member, like, here's the thing about founding member stuff.
If you were a founding member and then they're like, and also now we're going to give founding member status to all these other people.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You're like, okay, so it doesn't really mean anything, does it?
dan friesen
I don't feel that special about the thing that I did that was special.
jordan holmes
The thing supposed to make me feel special.
You have now removed the one thing that it does.
Yeah.
dan friesen
This members-only jacket.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's not very members-only anymore, is it?
Yeah, the flaps are stupid.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
It does kind of, it's a little disrespectful to the people that you are who founded.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it sucks because it is clearly like the last-ditch effort they have at creativity towards finding new revenue streams.
dan friesen
You know, I mean, this year has seen a bit of that.
I mean, like, Reset Wars was an interesting swing.
jordan holmes
They kept, they keep swinging for more money.
They just don't, they never knew why they were successful in the first place.
So they don't know why any of their ideas aren't working now.
dan friesen
But here's the ultimate irony: that like Prison Planet TV, when Alex was doing that, was successful.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That if he could have kept a bit of homeostasis, if he hadn't been a greedy asshole and he hadn't tried to like constantly chase money and grow this shit to a point where his overhead is ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Like if he hadn't done that, if he hadn't lust for like being a celebrity and being really rich, he would have been shockingly successful, able to do all of the information-based stuff that he ever wanted to do if he would have just kept it there.
jordan holmes
Right.
I mean, I'm not going to say this, and I'm not going to go.
I feel like it's not a new story.
The man with talent who lusted beyond his means.
I think we've got that one on lockdown.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, you know.
jordan holmes
You'd think considering the sheer volume of stories about just this same thing, we wouldn't be living through another example of it in present day.
dan friesen
Shorthand.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yes.
It's so old.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, Alex is taking a bath on the website and everything.
He's losing money.
alex jones
But I do humbly ask all the viewers and listeners to really understand that we're having a fundraiser right now because we're having about a $230,000, $250,000 underage each month, the last six months.
jordan holmes
That's not going to be good.
alex jones
And I put in all my savings, everything, all my money's gone.
Have like, I think $50,000 in my private bank account now.
I don't have any extra bank accounts.
I don't have trust or anything.
There's you never trust in your name.
I mean, I have AEJ trust.
My children, I put like $200,000 in their accounts when they were kids, and they've now grown up and they've gotten that money.
So I'm just telling you, there's nothing there.
And I understand you'd be happy if I was wealthy and had a bunch of stuff, and that'd be fine with you.
I get it.
But I'm just telling you, when I tell you that I'm on E on my children, which I don't like to do, but on my children, and before God, I have put 98% of my resources other than my home into this fight.
And that's it.
I'm totally committed.
And what's so frustrating is we're right there.
I mean, $200 and something thousand dollars with an audience this big, it's not hard each month that people just say, hey, I really need vitamin D3.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
I mean, look, $200,000 a month or whatever in the under-age is bad.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
Because I would assume that's factoring in all of the sales and everything that he's bringing in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, his net is under.
dan friesen
In theory, that's what he's saying.
jordan holmes
That is what he's saying.
dan friesen
And that's bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is bad.
I mean, I do appreciate whenever he throws in that one little detail as though you were already arguing.
You know, you're like, I put 98% of my stuff, except my house.
dan friesen
Did he sell his house?
jordan holmes
Exactly.
You said you sold your house.
You said you had there.
dan friesen
I sold one of the houses.
jordan holmes
You said you had put your house in there.
dan friesen
I sold one of my seven houses.
jordan holmes
Like, of all the things you think I'm going to argue with on that lie, it's going to be me being like, aha, you haven't sold your house.
dan friesen
He's absolutely lying about all of this.
But I do like the idea that he's putting it on God and on his kids.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
That he's put 98% of his resources.
Now, let's find a way that this lie works.
My emotional resources.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Resources is a very specific word in this person.
dan friesen
My good name.
jordan holmes
My private bank account.
Very specific words you're using here.
dan friesen
I don't believe for a second he has $50,000.
jordan holmes
He's close.
Good God.
dan friesen
Ridiculous.
jordan holmes
How dare you?
Also, come on.
At no point in time has anybody ever sworn on God and their children without the intent to lie about it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You just say the truth if it's true.
dan friesen
It's typically performative when you're lying.
Yes.
That's the whole point of it.
Generally, when people whip stuff like that out.
Yeah.
So look, you got to give him money.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Give this guy money.
alex jones
No.
It's not the Democrats.
It's not the deep state that are going to decide whether we're on air or not.
It's you.
You hold InfoWars in the palm of your hand.
You decide whether we're going to stay on air or whether we're not going to stay on air.
So I know a lot of you are supporting and I thank you and I appreciate you.
But all these people have been on the fence over the years, or maybe you ordered something a long time ago and liked it or whatever, but you're too busy.
And well, you already know about the new world order.
And so maybe you think InfoWars has served its purpose.
And if that's the case, then I guess we will not be on the air in the future because maybe I am passe.
Maybe I've been proven right so much now that it's time to hang up spurs.
jordan holmes
That's the problem.
alex jones
We have new people tuning in all the time that are waking up at record levels.
We have millions of people every week that are new listeners, millions, who are finally getting this is going on, and the blinders are coming off.
And I know we're becoming more influential in the halls of political cultural thought than we've ever been.
dan friesen
If I were a listener who had tuned in for this, I think I would have turned it off by now.
I would conceivably be looking for a year-end type of show where there's some information being covered, but it's just an excessive, protracted financial whining session.
Even if you believe in Alex's narratives, this is just unacceptable as content.
It's all good and well to beg your audience for money, but at a certain point when that's all you're doing for the first half hour of your two-hour year-end show, that's too much.
It's okay to have ads that help fund the message, but when the message is basically just the ads, what value do you offer an audience?
If I were a listener, I would probably be recognizing that this is actually a very fitting year-end show for Alex to be doing.
There's nothing unique or new about the idea of him spending way too much time complaining about his heroic financial battle, and I would be asking myself if I ever saw that changing.
Is there conceivably a time in the future when Alex isn't going to be doing this, when he's shifted into a place where the money is fine and he can focus on actual information?
Obviously, if you're honest with yourself, you have to recognize that until he flames out, this is how things are going to be.
He's going to be an angry, passive-aggressive panhandler pretending to be fighting imaginary supervillains.
When you look back on his career, you have to ask yourself why he even needs money.
He did his most influential work long before he had the supplement line, and every major event that he's been involved in past that point has been a disaster.
In the before time, he had things like Bohemian Grove, 9-11, Waco, and being the true voice of the Tea Party.
I was the real Tea Party.
I hung out with Ron Paul.
Ron Paul Revolution.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
While he's been rich, he's got Trump, Pizzagate, defaming the head of Chibani, the Sandy Hook lies and trials, his divorce, Jade Helm.
It's all been embarrassing.
He really shouldn't have money.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is unfortunate, but the thing that makes the most sense to me is like, this is a behind-the-music VH1 from the 80s, you know?
Like, this is this.
dan friesen
He can't go back to his roots, though.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I mean, like, he's Death Leopard behind the music.
And then we're going to get to the end, and it's like, what was it all for, man?
During their meteoric rise, it was all fun and games.
And then it got dark.
dan friesen
Well, yeah.
I mean, I think if you take a step back and look at like the sort of trajectory of his career, he is like a band that had like better chops before they made the big time.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Once they made the big time.
jordan holmes
He's kings of Leon.
dan friesen
I don't know what their early stuff was like.
jordan holmes
It was pretty good.
dan friesen
Okay.
It was pretty good.
They did the Sex on Fire song.
jordan holmes
They were the ones who did the Sex on Fire.
Their first album was like six years before that.
It was pretty good.
dan friesen
Sex on Fire is the metaphorical J Helm.
jordan holmes
They were like a slightly more like add a little bit of Black Rebel Motorcycle Club to the strokes, and that would be their first album.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
That makes sense to you.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's damn.
dan friesen
I remember the strokes.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
That album was unescapable when I was in college.
jordan holmes
It did seem to be that way.
dan friesen
So we jump away from this nonsense, super long ad shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And we get into a little bit of discussion of Alex's family.
And we get a little story about his dad, how he was the smartest boy in Texas.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And the story is a little different than other times he's told it in the past.
alex jones
Print up flyers.
Go to the mall.
Put them on the windshields of cars.
This is how we're going to win.
Because I know this is the most best out there.
We're having the biggest effect.
And the things I talk about, I know are real, and I know we're the globalist plan.
They tried to recruit my father to join the eugenics cult when he was top of his class in high school.
He was, his grandmother thought he was being, they told him it was NASA.
He's part of that Eisenhower WhizKid program.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
And I mean, the stuff when my dad was 14, they shipped an 18-wheeler with a giant Ruby laser to his house in East Texas.
He had the top test scores, and that's what Eisenhower was doing.
And then it was JFK.
It was all over.
And he built the laser, and they said, that's it.
jordan holmes
Really?
alex jones
They didn't even give him the plans of the laser.
jordan holmes
Really?
alex jones
It was a bunch of pieces.
unidentified
Are you sure you didn't just see Real Genius staring Mel Kilmer?
alex jones
From Houston and looked at the laser in operation, and they hired him.
And he thought he was in a program for NASA.
He was not in the program for NASA.
And by the time he got into college, he got out of it.
dan friesen
So this isn't how Alex has told the story about his dad's recruitment in the past.
Every time I've heard him tell the story before, it's been that his dad was the smartest boy in Texas.
So Dr. Erwin Speer tried to recruit him into the extermination project.
Spear was a professor of biology and botany at UT Austin.
So it doesn't quite match up with this laser story.
And his dad ended up becoming a dentist, which seems like a waste of such amazing laser talent.
jordan holmes
I mean, it really does sound eerily similar to Real Genius.
dan friesen
Right.
But it is fun.
I mean, this is how, I guess, if I were a liar, I would try to like shift stuff about like my being in the gifted program.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
She shows them trying to recruit me into that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It was the farm system in Triple E.
jordan holmes
It wasn't just like, oh, by a vagary of chance, I had a reading level a little bit higher than it should have been.
dan friesen
Right.
Or maybe I was behaviorally slightly weird, but in a non-disruptive way.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would not be recruited.
dan friesen
Maybe this guy would be better if we just let him learn too much about the Knights of the Round Table instead of what we're teaching him.
alex jones
Cool.
jordan holmes
He could be a problem if we bore him.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But I would recontextualize that as like the beginning of the globalist plot to try and bring me in.
jordan holmes
See, that's one thing in those David Jones deposition.
Oh, I would love to just grill him on his personal history.
Like, Alex says you did this.
What did you do?
dan friesen
Were you the smartest boy in Texas?
jordan holmes
Were you the smartest boy?
First question.
Were you the smartest boy?
dan friesen
So Alex, his dad, made a laser.
jordan holmes
And then because the principal was mean, they changed the trajectory of the laser to hit his house where a lot of popcorn was waiting and then exploded into the dark.
dan friesen
And then Eisenhower showed up.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
You need a job, son.
dan friesen
So that happened with his dad.
And his uncle, this is on his mom's side, I believe.
This is the Hammond uncle.
Buck Lee's dad was apparently a human trafficker.
alex jones
Then my uncle was in Iran-Contra.
Told me about it.
jordan holmes
It was hard rising.
alex jones
You know why he got out?
The U.S. government was trafficking children out of Central America through orphanages.
He was one of the guys down there in charge of a bunch of stuff.
I go further.
And then these fools online, when I tell these stories on air, they go, well, they go, Jones is one of them because some of his family work for the system.
Dr. Robert Malone is a hero.
He invented mRNA.
He's been exposing it before the shots even began.
People go, oh, he can't be trusted.
He's one of them.
Or Dr. Huff that ran EcoHealth Alliance as their vice president was their head of medical operations.
He went public and exposed everything and is probably going to send Fauci to prison.
dan friesen
Nope.
alex jones
People say, oh, we don't trust him.
He was in special operations and he was in the military and he had a top secret security clearance.
And yeah, and he's going public.
You judge a tree by its fruits, but none of that even matters.
You are now staring down the barrel of this thing and you're going to have to decide whether you're going to speak out and fight back.
And there's no better place to speak out and fight back than supporting InfoWars at InfoWarsStore.com.
So go there and don't let these people win.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Pretty good.
jordan holmes
Just.
dan friesen
Also, your uncle, if he was in charge of stuff, you know, he was trafficking children.
jordan holmes
I was just thinking that.
The more I think about his personal mythology of his family, the more it's like, wait, every story you tell about your family is at best morally dubious.
dan friesen
Your family fought for the Confederacy.
jordan holmes
And on average, your family is a destructive force for evil in this world.
dan friesen
Yeah, your uncle was involved in Iran-Contra and was trafficking humans.
jordan holmes
Your dad built a laser that I assumed they used for nefarious purposes.
dan friesen
And apparently, he was a so-so dentist, which has its own efforts.
Right, right, right, right.
Own negative unintended consequences.
jordan holmes
It is very much like if his moral compass is shaped by what he thinks are war criminals, then yeah, I mean, I imagine this would be like, well, the only way I can justify my family being filled with murderers, child traffickers, and awful people is if there's an even worse globalist empire out there.
dan friesen
Sure, that is a possibility.
In that case, there is no good in the universe.
jordan holmes
No, there's none.
Zero.
Zero.
dan friesen
But also, just think about the people he associates with, or the longtime people who have been in his world, like folks like Steve Pieczenik or Larry Nichols.
These are horrible people.
jordan holmes
Monsters.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
But they're heroes within the InfoWar and to Alex's audience, which is sort of like how Alex looks at his family, apparently.
jordan holmes
It's topsy-turvy.
dan friesen
Bunch of bad folks.
But you got to donate.
You got to buy Alex's shit.
jordan holmes
You know, you know, you know it's going to wind up at the InfoWars store.
dan friesen
All roads.
jordan holmes
But sometimes the journey is just fun.
Sometimes you got to sit back and enjoy the way you get there.
dan friesen
Well, I think that time was definitely one of the less predictable trips.
jordan holmes
That's true.
You could be forgiven for thinking that that trip to the store was going to wind up at a different place.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So look, there's a high cost to the InfoWar.
Sure.
There have been a lot of soldiers who have been lost.
alex jones
InfoWars is just a focal point of resistance.
If you need to know a lot of people who made major sacrifices you don't know about to bring you this information.
I'm going to leave it at that.
I'm talking about people have died to bring you this information.
jordan holmes
Many Buffins died.
alex jones
People close to me have died to bring you this information.
I've paid an extremely heavy price bringing this information, but I've done it because God's watching and I know we can beat these people and the children are counting on us to do this.
God's watching.
This is a test.
And if you don't do what's right, and if you don't stand against this, you got God to deal with.
dan friesen
But who's who died?
jordan holmes
If you don't turn off your targeting computer and trust the force, those fucking missiles aren't going anywhere near that Death Star.
dan friesen
Who died?
And like to get this information?
unidentified
Jack Toto Porkins did.
dan friesen
Does Alex know him?
jordan holmes
Sorry.
dan friesen
So look, this is all nonsense, but we've had a bit of meandering in the beginning of this episode because this is what Alex is doing.
This is how he chooses to end the year.
jordan holmes
He does.
dan friesen
But he gets down to business.
And we get what we were really looking for, which is the 2023 predictions.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Finally.
dan friesen
Coming this year.
jordan holmes
Yes, you are here to tell us the future.
Tomorrow's news today.
I'm sick of this year-end wrap-up shit.
dan friesen
This is why you show up.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
alex jones
I tried to write notes last night and this morning of what I predict's going to happen next year.
And it's such a big subject, and it's so hardcore.
And it is so nightmarish.
It's such a big subject that I don't even feel worthy.
jordan holmes
Oh, not one of these again.
Not one of these again.
It's so important.
alex jones
I don't want to make a mistake.
jordan holmes
This is an emergency broadcast that you're filling time.
alex jones
Really, really, really.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
alex jones
Lock myself in a dark room for about six, seven hours.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
With a little map light on with a pad of paper.
alex jones
And I really need to look at all the information and then try to put the pieces together and look into the future.
Because I've already got a really good idea of the stuff they're going to pull.
Tell us that then that zone, which I haven't been able to get into in the last few weeks.
I get in this zone where it's like all the pieces, the equations there, and I can see exactly what they're going to do.
And then the different projects they've got.
And then how we can stop them with critical information.
dan friesen
I guess we're not getting those predictions.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I doubt that.
dan friesen
Because Alex has got to go in a dark room for six hours.
jordan holmes
I strongly doubt we're going to get Alex in a dark room.
dan friesen
I've got to go trip balls in a room by myself so I can see the future.
jordan holmes
I've got to go pretend I'm developing photographs I'll never take.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
Map light.
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Yeah, I do love your reaction there because it is.
It's like, oh, God, this I get.
jordan holmes
I've got these.
dan friesen
Well, everybody says, it's so nightmarish.
I'm not even worthy to draw it.
It's like, oh, fuck.
alex jones
I got nothing.
jordan holmes
I'm going to fill some time.
dan friesen
It's also code for there's every reason why I should have something.
jordan holmes
I totally should.
dan friesen
There's an expectation that I would have this prepared.
jordan holmes
Here's what you're expecting from me.
And I would give it to you, but I don't have it.
So let me tell you about how hard I tried to get it.
dan friesen
And I'm being modest.
I'm being responsible by saying I can't cover this right now.
No.
I am but a mortal vessel for this information that is so important.
jordan holmes
It's because it's supernatural.
If I could be supernatural, I would have been able to achieve it.
However, it's a goal that is only achievable by the supernatural.
dan friesen
Right.
So I'm going to go lock myself in a room.
jordan holmes
That's what I got to do.
It does get more supernatural than that.
dan friesen
So failing to get to these predictions.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
At least we can cover the news.
unidentified
Can we?
dan friesen
I mean, look, it's a little bit of a second place.
It's a consolation prize.
Now, well.
alex jones
Let me do this.
Let me move on from that now into the news.
But when I tell you that we are in your hands and that's your decision whether we stay on air or not, that's the truth.
And I'm asking you to really think about the fact.
Is there really a question of whether or not you're going to support the broadcast?
I mean, really?
You want to give up to these people?
Because that's what it is.
dan friesen
I guess we're not getting to the news.
Man, we're going to talk more about it next time.
jordan holmes
We are pushing a little bit too hard here.
This is a little pushy.
If I were on the fence, this sales pitch is making me want to stay away from that fence.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's he's going to try and get you in a time chair to get into this.
jordan holmes
Really?
You're not going to give to me?
alex jones
What?
jordan holmes
What?
Do you know?
dan friesen
You're going to have God to answer.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
Oh, great.
dan friesen
So anyway, we're not going to get to the news.
Instead, we're going to get fucking so weird.
This show gets weird.
alex jones
That's how energy works.
Your brain is a giant electrochemical transceiver.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
Receives and transmits.
And let me tell you, you can dial your brain to any channel you want right now.
With my free will, I can dial to the Satan channel in two seconds.
I can go into that bathroom in there and look for about two seconds and decide to let something else jump right into me into the driver's seat.
And that something could absolutely tear people's arms out of their sockets.
That thing could give me all sorts of evil inclination and understanding, but only how to hurt people.
And so when you look at the New World Order and Mill Gates and people like Fauci, let me tell you, folks, there is a system of anti-God, anti-human inside that body that's running that body, and that's a biological android with one mission, and that is to humiliate you and cut you off from God before they kill you.
jordan holmes
Reminder, people you disagree with are demons.
It is not just a disagreement.
alex jones
All this is people turning the dial.
And how do you turn the dial to Satanism?
You kill people.
You hurt children.
You molest children.
jordan holmes
How do you turn the dial to Satanism?
alex jones
It breaks their DNA.
They've now confirmed in more than 100 studies that this mRNA with a spike protein goes into the cells for generations and is passed on to the children and causes mutations.
They are turning people into mutants.
No, Now, don't think God didn't put a little something in us that'll deal with that.
jordan holmes
What?
What?
alex jones
No weapon formed against us shall prosper.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
But it is electrochemical and it's transmission.
So we need to turn the dial to the Holy Spirit, the big broadcast.
And obviously, if you've been turning the dial the other way, you're not going to want to turn the dial.
It's not going to feel too good to turn the dial towards God.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
But if you don't want to be cut off from the creator of the universe forever and be with these things who have free will and decided to be these things, then you better take that dial and you better turn it to God and you better then put a sledgehammer and break that dial off where you can't even turn the damn dial.
And I finally got to that point in the last few years where I cannot even turn from the Satan dial.
dan friesen
Wow, what progress.
jordan holmes
He's making this progress.
You know, when I was little, when I was like nine or ten, the pastor at our church, he had me hooked.
I thought he was very smart because he was really well read and he could quote all the stuff right, you know, do the whole thing.
And then I went to the youth group for the first time and the youth guy was trying to do the exact same thing.
But because he sucked at it, he accidentally revealed all the bullshit, right?
That feels so much like a youth group speech of like, listen, you're not ready for the pulpit, buddy.
You got to stay in the gym with a bunch of kids around you playing the guitar.
dan friesen
I know all of your friends are telling you that hyperventilating a bunch is really cool, but then a devil will come in.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Oh, whoa, you got me.
dan friesen
So there's three points in that clip that play together that are really weird.
And one is Alex saying at the end that he is no longer able to tap into that devil dial.
jordan holmes
That one's weird.
dan friesen
Which is contradictory to the beginning part where he said he could stare at himself in the mirror.
jordan holmes
Anytime he wanted.
dan friesen
That's contradicted by him saying that in order to turn the devil dial, you need to kill people or abuse children.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Clearly, you could just look at yourself in the mirror.
jordan holmes
Well, you should have tried looking at yourself in the mirror before you killed that child.
Right.
dan friesen
It seems unnecessary.
jordan holmes
Either that or Alex is revealing that he has killed a bunch of people, and that is why at any time he wants, he can turn it exactly.
You know, he's already turned the devil dial.
dan friesen
Sure, that might be.
jordan holmes
He can do whatever he wants.
dan friesen
He's a day walker.
jordan holmes
I mean, again, the more he talks about how he's morally righteous, the less it sounds like he understands what morality is.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't think he does at all.
jordan holmes
No, I don't think so either.
dan friesen
Also, I think that Alex said that God has a thing that helps with the mutants or whatever.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I think he said that in order to be like, hey, you know, otherwise the answer is go kill anybody who's been vaccinated, you got to kill them.
unidentified
Right, right.
dan friesen
You know, that kind of thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's a little bit precarious, his language.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And so God has this answer or whatever is the sort of back door that you can get through.
jordan holmes
Don't hurt anybody.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
There's a self-destruct button God put in there on his own.
You can just hate them forever and give me money.
dan friesen
Or you can talk to them and convince them to turn off their mutation through the Holy Spirit.
unidentified
Whatever.
dan friesen
Turn that dial.
jordan holmes
Turn the dial.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
What a great metaphor.
dan friesen
So we got some more talk about dials.
This metaphor is pretty big in Alex's head today.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And I finally got to that point in the last few years where I cannot even turn on the Satan dial.
unidentified
I've not even tried mode.
alex jones
I think anybody that experienced it knows what I'm talking about.
jordan holmes
Which makes you.
alex jones
I don't even think I've got that switch anymore.
And that's a good thing.
It's like rearview mirror.
It can't even see it anymore.
Oh, bye-bye, Satan.
Get behind me.
jordan holmes
Not in accordance with what you believe.
alex jones
That's actually about a mission.
I'm going someplace.
I'm on a path.
I'm on a trajectory.
I want to get in line with the Holy Spirit and then move to the future.
I want to be teleported to the next dimension.
Oh, yes.
jordan holmes
Wow.
alex jones
I was like, oh, you want that?
Here, have that.
And I'm right there right now.
unidentified
Just, oh, wow.
alex jones
I just feel the presence of God right now.
Unbelievable.
jordan holmes
Speechless in the face of God.
alex jones
Here, I have you.
Come to me.
Yeah, I just see.
I just turn the dial to see my dial's not turned all the way to God.
The more I stand up against evil, the more I go through persecution, the more I can turn the dial.
And then it becomes a good thing.
The more I'm attacked, the more I'm lied about.
The dial keeps turning further and further, further.
I keep getting stronger.
Sure, my body looks weaker, but it's just a vessel, and it's a sign of its vigor and its pain is a symbol of the strength.
All right.
I got a lot of year-end review stuff.
I don't talk about what's coming next year.
Very.
unidentified
Ugh.
alex jones
It's got to be done.
It's got to be done.
I can't procrastinate on this.
Let's do this.
jordan holmes
Should this be on air?
alex jones
The prison grid's here.
Not coming.
It's time.
Okay.
So let's play these clips back to back.
I played part of this one yesterday, but I want to get to the rest of it today because it was so important.
It's Sky News out of Australia with Ronan Dean.
Seven minutes long.
It's the best summation of what we're dealing with.
Oh, my God.
First, I want to air AJ Explains Genocide Plan in five minutes from about a year ago.
jordan holmes
About.
alex jones
And then I want to play the clip from Sky.
And then I want to play Clip 8.
jordan holmes
Is this live?
alex jones
Then later I'll play Clip 10.
dan friesen
Maybe you shouldn't have no commercial broadcasts if you're going to have production meetings.
They could have had a very brief conversation about this prior to starting your dumb show.
jordan holmes
Have a meeting before the show starts.
dan friesen
That would be something.
I had a thought.
Is there a Marvel hero that gets stronger when you hit them?
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
There's got to be.
I don't know the characters well enough, but there's got to be some super.
Probably a villain.
That seems like a villain.
jordan holmes
No, no, I think one of Black Panther's powers is that if you hit his suit, it absorbs the energy, and then he can later channel it back.
dan friesen
That seems more like a suit thing.
jordan holmes
It is a suit thing.
dan friesen
That's not like the power.
jordan holmes
That's not really the power.
And it's powerful.
There's the guy who can travel through time who, if you shoot him with lasers, he absorbs the lasers and then he has a gun.
Cable, maybe something like that.
dan friesen
You know who would be bad against him?
jordan holmes
Who?
dan friesen
Alex's dad.
jordan holmes
That's true.
He would be bad.
He's not good at lasers.
Well, I mean, he's good at lasers.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Thereby neutralizing his abilities.
dan friesen
I just, I, that's all I could think about when he's talking about how, like, all these people shit on me and it makes me stronger in God's dial.
Shut up with the fucking dial.
jordan holmes
All I could keep thinking about was like, at the end of this speech, I'm waiting for somebody to be like, okay, Alex, I don't think you can share at these AA meetings anymore.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Listen, we'd like to give it to everybody, but Alex, Alex J, is it?
Okay.
I don't think you can come back, but maybe for the next few weeks, don't share.
dan friesen
Bill W doesn't want to be friends anymore.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
You're acquaintances of Bill Douglas.
Oh, boy.
So, Alex, I don't know why Ted Bundy's on the mind.
jordan holmes
Why wouldn't he be, Dan?
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
There's lots of stories, you know, and it comes out in the court, all the details of Ted Bundy, the famous serial killer that would drive around his yellow Volkswagen because it looked non-threatening.
And he'd see an 18-year-old woman coming out of the mall after work, and he'd say, Hey, you wear a nice suit.
Hey, let's go get a coffee and have dinner.
What's your name?
I think you're really nice.
Oh, I'm a medical student.
Why don't we go over here to McDonald's?
And then.
jordan holmes
Do we need to anthropomorphize this stuff?
alex jones
He'd lock the car doors, put a gun to their head, and say, Put these handcuffs on.
Now he finally got caught because one woman did run.
But the point is, is that all the rest of them did what he said, and then he took them to a farmhouse in a basement and put electrical tape on them and tortured them and raped them for days until they were used up.
And as soon as they weren't begging and pleading and crying and he wasn't getting demonic power out of their heart, as soon as their eyes went dead, he'd go ahead and strangle them.
He'd bite big bloody chunks out of them.
You know what?
I ain't getting in the yellow Volkswagen and I ain't putting your handcuffs on.
And metaphorically, I'm going to bite your nose off, Ted.
You're not going to win.
We're not in here with you.
You're in here with us.
Understand?
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
So metaphorically, New World Order, I'm going to pull your teeth out with pliers.
And I'm going to gouge your eyeballs out.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Understand?
And then I'm going to stomp your guts out.
You like that?
Good.
You like hurting kids?
I like hurting you.
Understand?
I mean, let's get serious, people.
None of these missing scumbags.
Murder them with the truth.
Murder their credibility.
Assault them with the data.
Destroy them.
And then they will rot in prison.
You're so close.
So close to getting our hands around their political necks.
That mass murdering serial killer, Fauci, is a hundred times more evil than Ted Bundy.
Look at his eyes.
Look at his actions.
He loves killing children.
dan friesen
I mean, there's, you know, this is grotesque and shit.
But like, there's something that I really think about.
You know, like his show's called Info Wars.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
You know, like, and there's this idea of like, there's a war of information.
Sure.
Hey, you know, so he has these violent ways of talking about like information.
unidentified
Naturally.
dan friesen
Like, you hear stuff like this, and you take in the way he does his show and conveys things and tells stories.
You really get the sense that he's more into the war aspect of it than the information.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, the information is just kind of an excuse for him to have these disgusting fantasies about murdering his enemies.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, that's like, I'm going to put my hands around your political throat.
Like, there's no informational relationship with this.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
It's just miring in disgusting fantasies.
I think that's what he really gets out of it.
And I think mostly emotionally what the audience connects with, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, it is kind of emblematic of that type of relationship that toxic masculinity has to the present insofar as it cannot express itself the way it used to with just indifference and impunity.
So toxic masculinity now has to tie itself to some sort of imagined justification.
So the war is all that was ever interesting.
It's just that after the war had to be combined with info, fuck it, we'll do the info war too if we have to.
dan friesen
But this isn't like the way that the information war felt in like our 2003 episodes necessarily.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
It's not spending long periods of time having a J-O fantasy about murdering Fauci.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one's weird.
dan friesen
Yeah, but this is pretty common on his show now.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, his brain has also deteriorated quite a bit.
dan friesen
Maybe that's another effect of those supplements.
jordan holmes
It does seem that those two should go hand in hand.
dan friesen
Much like I don't trust them with their private information, my private information based on surrounding context, I would not take his supplements based on his changing behavior.
jordan holmes
I think this guy screaming about how everyone who disagrees with me a demon is probably someone who should give me something that I put into my body without asking questions.
dan friesen
Yeah, he might need less X2.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, he goes on yelling about how he wants to kill Fauci.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
alex jones
He's powerful.
He's in charge.
He's going to kill you because he's God.
A miserable, demonic maggot of hell.
Look at that man.
If you have any discernment, if you have any spirit of God in you, you know that is Diablo, Satan, the old serpent.
jordan holmes
That's Dr. Fauci.
alex jones
Right there.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm looking at.
alex jones
That's an accomplished psychopath, though, that's been doing it for 45 years and gotten away with it and thinks he's God.
jordan holmes
He looks very tired.
alex jones
He knows not to open the eyes up with the satanic look of the Ted Bundy.
No, no, no.
He just gives you that look of, I am a psychotic and I have killed millions and I'm going to kill millions more.
And you're not going to stop me.
Your children are mine.
I'm going to murder them slowly.
I'm going to snake a ventilator down your grandma and not let you see her while we kill her and while we ship in COVID patients to infect her and we'll murder logic right in front of you.
Let's go to the New World Order lockdown prison city reports.
We'll be back.
dan friesen
So this is a good clip to use as a little reminder that Alex is basically an idiot who can't even do his job anymore.
He spent the first half hour of this show begging for money and complaining about how if you don't give him money, you'll have God to answer to.
Then he spent the next half hour yelling about completely insane nonsense about tuning your brain to God or Satan frequencies and then rambling grotesque fantasies about torturing and killing his imaginary enemies.
After that, he throws it to reports produced by other people.
This highlights perfectly what Alex is good for.
He's a really effective con man in terms of sucking money out of people he's already convinced to enter his revenue stream.
And he's better than most at improvising violence fantasies.
He doesn't have the shame that most people have, which would stop them from descending into these disgusting diatribes about what they want to metaphorically do to their enemies.
Most people would find that embarrassing.
But Alex has cultivated a persona where he gets away with pretending that it's a mark of his passion.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Neither of these things rely on any work.
No preparation is required to peel off improvised murder fantasies.
And Alex basically has a working script for begging at this point, so he could do that more or less in his sleep.
Anything that takes work is antithetical to his present-day way of doing business because Alex really doesn't give a shit about this stuff past what he can get out of it.
He cares about the performance of trying and the performance of caring so deeply.
But at the end of the day, it's crystal clear that he would rather spend his time off air doing anything else other than working on making a good show.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because this sucks.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think the problem is maybe he used to care about the performance more.
You know, he used to care about performing to the best of his abilities, maybe, but now it seems like the performance itself is garbage, too.
It is.
You know, like he doesn't even, you know, like he cares.
dan friesen
It's over the top.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's unbelievable.
jordan holmes
It's transparent.
Yeah.
I feel like he used to be a better actor, at least.
dan friesen
There was some plausible way to look at him and disagree and be like, I think he probably means that.
You know, I think it's probably, but like, I don't think he believes that people are demons.
Like, yeah.
Like, like, rubber to the road, I don't think that he actually believes people are possessed by demons.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I think that this is a heightening of his wanting to other and demonize his political enemies and the people that he disagrees with.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
I mean, ironically, it is more acceptable to literally demonize your opponents than it is to metaphorically demonize your opponents.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, I mean, look, it's trash.
jordan holmes
It's just trash.
It's just trash.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's unlistenable garbage.
dan friesen
It more or less is.
alex jones
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Except for like little funny moments like I'm going to do this predictions and then maybe not.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I would just say that he should try.
He should maybe try.
I know that he is averse to that, but when you're saying that like the performance is worse now, I think what it comes down to is that previously, at earlier points in his career, he didn't have anything.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He didn't have like an empire.
He didn't have this stuff.
jordan holmes
You're funnier when you ride the bus.
That old Sinbad quote of like, you're funnier when you ride the bus.
dan friesen
Sum it up that way.
jordan holmes
Yeah, when you're flying around in a plane, you're not as funny.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And when you can have your own private jet, you're not really all that convincing as a populist propagandist.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's a little bit thin.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
This kind of bullshit.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex plays a bunch of special reports, and then he comes back with this.
alex jones
All right, I'm just going to go about another 30 minutes or so in the special year-end emergency broadcast.
It'll be streamed out until 4 p.m. tomorrow when we do the Sunday show, 4 to 6 p.m.
Then Owens back in 628.
dan friesen
I can't stress this enough.
Alex has done nothing on this show.
It was 30 minutes of begging, 30 minutes of meaningless ranting about spiritual radios, and then 20 minutes of special reports.
There truly feels like there's no reason for Alex to do this show at all, except to try to bring in money and for him to lash out a little bit to an audience.
It's really wild because even I kind of thought there would be more meat on these bones.
I saw like emergency last broadcast of the year.
Like at least try to do something.
jordan holmes
I mean, to me, to me, what is most emblematic of what's going on here is just that, like, it's you who's going to decide whether Infowar stays on air or not.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, when he says that, that's such a fatalist viewpoint.
dan friesen
Well, he does that a lot, though.
jordan holmes
But it is, and it is true in a sense.
You know, it is going to be whether or not the audience responds to that.
dan friesen
Only you can stop forest fires and only you can give me money.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
But at the same time, you need to project the idea that you are doing something to earn that money.
You know, and he's not doing that.
dan friesen
It would be good.
Yeah, justify your existence.
Yeah, absolutely.
Why is this investment worth making?
jordan holmes
That's so good.
That's kind of more what I'm feeling lately is like, he used to at least try to make the pitches worth it.
You know, like he's justifying the reason that you would give him money.
And now it's just give me money.
dan friesen
Well, yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, even though he's.
dan friesen
But I was kind of thinking about that.
And I think that is one level of looking at it.
Sure.
And I think that's wrong, sort of.
It is correct if you look at it.
jordan holmes
No, I'm fine with wrong, sort of.
dan friesen
Well, but it's correct if you look at it from a perspective of like trying to deliver information and like even if the information's wrong or stories and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Then, yeah, he's doing essentially nothing to earn the investment.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But if you look at it, it's like it's no longer really InfoWars, it's feelings wars.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
If you look at it that way, then he is doing something to elicit the donation and the investment, which is creating bizarre emotional stimulus for the audience to react to.
jordan holmes
You know, I just watched, because I think you have a really, really good point.
I just watched his dark materials with my wife.
And the largest issue with that is that it is emotionally manipulative.
It's not actually good or bad or anything like that.
It knows the ways to make you feel something without having earned it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's poking.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Yeah.
And that's kind of more of a.
dan friesen
And I think that there is something that an audience finds gratifying about that emotional manipulation, whether or not it's conscious.
jordan holmes
People like a roller coaster.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, you go up and down.
It's not like you won anything.
dan friesen
Great.
I mean, you're not going to get from other media outlets somebody screaming at you about how you buying vitamins from them is fighting the devil.
jordan holmes
You're just not.
dan friesen
And that is in some ways kind of cathartic.
jordan holmes
You can't say it's not.
Otherwise, we wouldn't be here if there wasn't something about it.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think that that might be part of what is unsatisfying about a lot of his present day stuff is it's just like, what do you do with that?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's just making the audience feel things, I guess.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
What is there to talk about if what you're really doing is just going, hey, you, feel like this.
Ra!
Hey, you, feel like this.
Hey, you, feel like this.
dan friesen
It's a little bit less meaningful.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex talks about how he gauges some of this.
There's some victory going on.
And I would say that this is a bad way to gauge things.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
alex jones
It's out of control for the New World Order.
I mean, they are in trouble.
I remember about a year and a half ago, Joe Rogan put a clip of myself on his show out whenever the media was saying, Bill Gates never said 80% of people in studies of this vaccine get sick.
Alex Jones is a liar.
Well, Bill Gates said it himself.
So Joe Rogan showed that clip and it got more than 10 million views on his Instagram and 99 plus percent.
I mean, you would read 300 comments.
I spent hours, several times looking at it.
News articles.
I mean, probably 99.9% of the comments were, we know you're eugenicist.
We know you want to kill us.
We know about the new world order.
We know about your dad and Planned Parenthood.
We know about this clip, that clip.
And just that video that had over 10 million views last time I looked at it had something like a million comments.
And I've read thousands of them.
And it was just all exposing the world order.
And that's just a snapshot, folks.
It's now like that everywhere.
So there's your AI.
There's your censorship boards.
There's your CIA.
There's you all trying to silence us.
It didn't work, scum.
We kicked your ass in this round.
Yeah, you killed a lot of people.
Yeah, you maimed a lot of people.
Yeah, you made hundreds of millions of dollars.
Yeah, you're regrouping to do it again.
But you just found out we're not as easy to run over as you thought we were.
dan friesen
It's because of comments on a hearing that correctly?
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
I mean, who cares about these comments, first of all?
And then second of all, I don't believe him, but let's pretend he's telling the truth.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
He spent hours reading these comments.
jordan holmes
That's a serious problem.
dan friesen
Do other stuff.
I mean, this is not a useful.
That's not a respectable way to use your time if you're Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
You know what I've thought?
unidentified
I love it.
dan friesen
There's a little bit of show prep that isn't just reading comments.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and here's the thing.
dan friesen
It's fucking social media.
jordan holmes
I think it's time.
I think he's, I think he's got, I think he's on to something here.
I think it's time we replace democracy with governance by YouTube comment.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Like however many, like plus, minus, whatever it is you need.
dan friesen
It's an ungameable system.
Oh, boy.
alex jones
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Yep.
But I do like these ways that he gauges things.
Like in the past, you had randomly coming up with numbers about how effective his tapes are.
jordan holmes
85, 90% effective.
dan friesen
And now we have skimming through comments on a social media platform.
jordan holmes
These comments are as good for me as a condom.
99.9% effective.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we're going to get to these future predictions because he's at that time.
You know, he was playing special reports.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So let's get to it.
jordan holmes
Time to think about this.
unidentified
Come on.
alex jones
Okay.
I think what I'm going to do is this.
And I'm not hopping out here.
And I'm not trying to have suspense here.
So you tune in tomorrow.
Tune in Monday.
unidentified
But you're going to have to tune in tomorrow.
alex jones
I'm going to have to call my wife today.
I need to go lock myself in my office and get on the computer.
I'm better with a pad and paper.
And I really need to predict what's going to happen next year if we don't stand up, what the different probabilities and possibilities are.
dan friesen
Honey, I'm not coming home.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
I've got to lock myself in my office to see the future.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Okay.
In my other jobs, you know, when I was doing another job, me going like, hey, listen, you know what?
You're right.
I got to buckle down.
I'm going to handle that.
I don't want to make you wait to tomorrow.
So I'm going to work all night for it.
I'll get it to you tomorrow.
And that's fine.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Because I'm not on air.
alex jones
Right.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, look, debatably.
Debatably.
A year predictions episode.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That could be on the 31st of December or January 1st.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
It's appropriate for either.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Now, when you're doing an emergency December 31st episode, the word emergency is bringing up predictions for the future.
jordan holmes
Emergency carries a lot.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
You'd think that it would be in there, but no.
He's going to tell his wife he ain't coming home.
unidentified
But actually, I'm going to get out of here.
dan friesen
He has another plan.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
You know, I'm going to do something even bigger.
jordan holmes
Sure, what's that?
alex jones
I'm going to take off.
jordan holmes
I'm going to leave.
I was right.
alex jones
I'm going to take off.
I don't know if it's going to be a day or five days or what.
And I am going to go to the country.
I'm going to go to the mountain.
Because nothing makes you think clearer than hiking 5,000 feet up a mountain and Jarge Farbanks.
Hazuck Arabia.
I'm going to go to the wilderness.
I'm going to go to the mountain.
jordan holmes
Like Hanshan.
alex jones
When I'm ready, I'm going to come back and lay out what's going to happen next year.
And, you know, I build it up because I need to build it up for myself how important this is and how I need to really focus and really get in that zone when all the pieces come together.
Sometimes it happens when you're at the gym because blood's racing through your brain, or sometimes it happens when you're taking a jog, or sometimes it happens when you're driving the car.
I need to really immerse myself by myself, by myself, in the woods, in the hills, and in a cabin.
And then I'm going to come back and I'm going to tell you what I believe they're about to pull next and how we stop them.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
I got to go to the woods.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Got to go to the woods to see the future.
jordan holmes
Now, I'm trying to work on the conversion here because I know about inflation.
So Gautama sat underneath that tree for like decades, right?
He sat under there for a long, long time.
dan friesen
Well, it could be one day, could be five days.
jordan holmes
Sure, but he was coming up with a life philosophy that could last for eternity, you know?
So just picking out a year's predictions, what's that?
Like 30 minutes?
dan friesen
I mean, it depends on how good the air is.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
Depends on how alone he is in the woods.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he can't get distracted by a squirrel.
dan friesen
I love this escalation, though.
jordan holmes
I'm going to kill you.
dan friesen
This escalation is like, I am not worthy to deliver this information.
All right, that's stage one.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
Stage two is, I'm going to tell my wife I'm not coming home.
I'm going to lock myself in a dark room.
jordan holmes
I respect that for six hours.
You know what?
I get that.
dan friesen
And then, hey, you know what?
Fuck it.
I'm going to the woods.
jordan holmes
Going to the woods.
dan friesen
And who knows how long I'm going to be there?
And I'll come back when I'm good and ready and I've seen the future.
jordan holmes
This is all movies.
This is all me.
This is all movies.
dan friesen
There's hilarious.
jordan holmes
He's a crywalker.
He's the crywalker now.
I'm going to the woods.
unidentified
I'll see you in the air, assholes.
dan friesen
So we are recording this on Sunday.
Yes.
And it's actually when Alex's show is on.
And so I have it pulled up here on mute.
And it's unfortunately in a commercial.
So I don't know.
jordan holmes
So you don't know if he's going to go.
He's in the woods today.
Yes, you have to know.
dan friesen
So I'll give an update as soon as we get out of a commercial break to see.
I'm very excited.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
I hope he's in the woods.
I hope he's in the woods.
dan friesen
We are now currently watching, or I am because you're on the other side of the screen, but there's a CBD commercial.
Alex is selling CBD.
jordan holmes
What are we doing with life?
What's happening?
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, it's cool now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Alex is selling it.
There is an interesting thing I was thinking about about how, you know, he has these things that are so important.
And they don't really follow along with who his sponsors are at a particular time.
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, not really.
That's not his style.
dan friesen
I never heard him talk about CBD in the past.
Now it's super important.
It's very important according to his commercials.
jordan holmes
It's very important.
dan friesen
I don't hear him talk about gold that much anymore, which is interesting.
jordan holmes
Here's what I'm confused about.
dan friesen
Before you had a supplement line, I never heard about how important X2 or IAS is.
unidentified
It is strange.
jordan holmes
It is strange how those things became very important once he sold them.
dan friesen
It is weird.
We're now seeing a commercial of Alex in his tank yelling at people trying to cross the border.
jordan holmes
Good, good, great.
dan friesen
This is weird to have on this.
jordan holmes
We can't be doing this simultaneously.
dan friesen
Alex popping out the top of a tank, yelling at a bullhorn at immigrants.
Oof, dark.
jordan holmes
You know, it makes me despair of a future.
Because when I was, you know, when we were growing up, you had those dare commercials where it's like, if you smoke weed one time, you're probably going to kill your little sister.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, like, you're going to die.
dan friesen
Brain's going to be a fried egg.
jordan holmes
And now a version of cannabinoids can be sold on the fucking corner street.
Everybody who's old used to be like, hey, if you smoke weed, you've got to go to jail for the rest of your life.
They're popping gummies left and right.
And at no point in time is anybody going like, well, here's what we're not going to do.
This all over again.
Let's just stop this.
Let's get rid of this criminalizing drug shit.
We got to figure this.
We've been there before so many times.
It's very unfortunate.
dan friesen
I'm sorry.
I get distracted because Alex is at a creek.
jordan holmes
Reset Wars?
dan friesen
No, he's not in the creek.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, then what's the point?
dan friesen
Exactly.
All right.
We're coming back from break.
Coming back from break.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
What do you think?
Do you think it's going to be Alex?
jordan holmes
He's not in the woods.
I don't know if it's going to be him.
Are we in the third hour?
Are we in the fourth hour?
dan friesen
He does the whole show on Sundays himself because it's only two hours, so there's no guest host.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
See, here's the thing: I could see him being there because he talks a lot of shit.
But I could also see him being gone because all it requires is him to leave.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And not working is something he loves.
jordan holmes
He prefers the latter to the former.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Is it going to be Owen?
Is it going to be Harrison?
jordan holmes
Is it going to be Alex?
Don't stop this.
unidentified
You're doing who's the most important person in 2017 thing?
dan friesen
It's Alex.
jordan holmes
I knew it.
dan friesen
This says it's live, but I mean, I don't know.
It could be a rebroadcast of some sort.
But yeah, it looks like Alex didn't go to the woods.
I wonder if he's predicting the future.
jordan holmes
Well, we'll see.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex used to be way better at predicting the future back in the past.
I mean, well, you know, he predicted 9-11.
I mean, and that was from a dream.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
You know, I went on air in July of 2001 and did dozens of shows up until September 11th saying they're going to blow up the World Trade Center.
jordan holmes
Joe Rogan was on.
alex jones
Or use it as a pretext for domestic control and to bring in their control system.
And then in the future, they're going to use that anti-terror apparatus against the American people and against gun owners and patriots and Christians.
And people said, How did you do that?
I got in the zone.
And it's almost like close encounters of the third kind.
And I'm not saying that's what's happening here, but it's an allegory where the aliens are sitting on a psychic transmission.
Everybody's kind of building the mountain.
Everybody's feeling guided to the mountain.
The government's having their meeting with the aliens, but the aliens actually want to meet with the people themselves.
The aliens are sitting in transmission out psychically.
Come to this mountain.
Come here and meet with us.
unidentified
It seems more like a 40-year-old movie to me.
alex jones
And that's really the allegory here: is that I need to really get in that zone because in 2015, I would have intense understanding and just intense thoughts of what they were going to do.
And I then had dreams of the burning buildings of the World Trade Center.
And I understand it was a key signpost of where we were going.
And so there was a lot of interdimensional power going into the future because you see, time-space continuum, information is going out.
Possible futures are there.
Our actions decide much of what those futures are going to be.
But it's like sonar or radar.
jordan holmes
That's not how that works.
alex jones
When big events that do happen, they send back a signature of what's happening in the future into the past.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
alex jones
And so it's a radar.
It's an interdimensional sonar.
Sonar is a better word because I would describe the space-time continuum like a waterfall or why.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's like a waterfall.
What?
Look, I don't know.
I like some sort of new agey nonsense.
And every now and again, if you want to talk about time-space continuum and all this stuff and like there's possible futures, whatever.
I'm going to leave that alone in terms of judging that.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Now, I will judge Alex on this front.
And that is he doesn't know how to read a word on the page.
jordan holmes
There is that.
dan friesen
I'm not going to trust him to interpret signs from the possible futures of the space-time continuum.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
He doesn't know anything.
jordan holmes
You know, I do appreciate celebrating talents that are not, you know, like, hey, some people can't read, but they're very good at visual art.
I recognize that that's possible.
However, if you are talking semiotics, learn how to read.
That's my advice.
dan friesen
Or even like interpret concepts or any of that kind of stuff.
He's very poor at that skill set.
So I would imagine he would get a message from the aliens and he'd completely whiff the game of telephone trying to explain to us what it was.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, I basically, if what I heard is correct about his explanation of the allegory of close encounters of the third kind, I do not trust anything he says about anything.
dan friesen
No.
I would imagine that the aliens are telling him to shut the fuck up and that he's telling us completely different.
jordan holmes
Yes, the aliens are screaming at him shaped like me.
dan friesen
So Alex, you know, a lot of his reporting is based on deep sources that people have died to bring to him.
jordan holmes
Technically not true, but true.
dan friesen
Well, definitely not true.
Most of it is actually memes and dumb stuff that he saw on social media that he doesn't know anything about.
jordan holmes
There's that.
dan friesen
Like this.
alex jones
And I know Kiana Reeves.
And I've had dinner with him a few times and talked to him quite a bit when I was a consultant on Scanner Darkly.
And he even reached out a few times through his producer and through his assistant over the years.
He liked my films and they ordered more of them.
And they even invited me out one time.
And I never got out there.
I never did it just because it's not important.
But I got to tell you, this is a really creepy Kiana Reeves clip.
jordan holmes
Is it from a movie?
alex jones
It's clip three.
I want to play this because, and they cut it short, so I'm wondering what he said after.
But he says it's amazing and really cool that a little girl at a director's house he was at said, I don't care if things are reality.
I don't care if they're real.
Well, that's the whole thing about the Matrix is that's where they're taking us is a false reality where they can control the input and try to manipulate us spiritually to make false decisions.
That's how they believe they short circuit and defraud free will.
jordan holmes
I thought they just wanted power.
alex jones
And so there's Kiana Reeves.
jordan holmes
Like literal power.
alex jones
They just needed power.
They need batteries.
People say he's stupid because they don't actually know him.
He's really smart.
He actually opens up and talks to you.
He doesn't talk to most people.
jordan holmes
Do people say he's stupid?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
I feel like everybody likes him.
alex jones
This is a very dangerous clip because they're a child.
It'd be one thing if you're an adult and a philosopher and you decide you want to be in the Matrix.
You decide you want to be in a fraud.
But children can't differentiate.
That's why they can't have sex till they're 18.
That's why they can't join the military until they're 18.
jordan holmes
That's the only reason.
alex jones
They can't buy cigarettes till they're 18.
They can't buy litter until they're 21.
Because we've made a decision that statistically it's good to protect them until they're able to make those decisions.
dan friesen
Whoa.
I think that people, they don't think that Keanu Reeves is stupid, but a lot of his characters were stupid when he was younger.
He played a good, stupid person like Bill and Ted.
jordan holmes
Right, you know, right.
I feel like most people can recognize that when you're in a movie, you are pretending to be kind of typecast in a lot of that.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And I think that some of that impression can linger in people's minds, but particularly in the last like 10 years, 15 years, 20 years.
Yeah.
I think people have taken quite a different view of Keanu as he's become an adult much more.
But I don't know.
I don't think that Alex, I mean, maybe they talked in passing, like during Waking Life or during Scanner Darkness.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me.
dan friesen
Sure, but I'm playing this up.
unidentified
Hey, Keanu Reeves, I'm a huge fan of yours from Bill and Ted.
jordan holmes
And he's like, yeah, cool, man.
dan friesen
Your point is very correct, too, about the plot of the Matrix.
You trick people into making false choices.
jordan holmes
We needed battery.
Hey, listen, when the battery's on your controller, you know, I had a wireless Xbox controller way back when.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
When the batteries go out, you get desperate.
I get it.
Now, I wouldn't enslave an entire race of people, but they weren't nice to them either.
So you get it.
dan friesen
I understand.
There is one way that Alex is kind of correct.
Inasmuch as the very select people that get out of the Matrix, the architect and the machines are trying to get them to play out a false choice in order to reboot that cycle.
jordan holmes
Correct.
dan friesen
Or whatever.
jordan holmes
They still, again, still want their batteries.
dan friesen
Right.
But that is close to what Alex is talking about, except it's only a very select people.
The rest of the people, they don't give a shit what choices they make within the Matrix.
And once again, completely irrelevant.
jordan holmes
Importantly, it is an allegory, not a true story.
dan friesen
Now, this clip that Alex has found of Tristan Reeves, terrifying.
Oh, no.
unidentified
What is he saying?
dan friesen
That's a dangerous clip.
jordan holmes
I mean, if it's dangerous, then it's terrifying.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
We should probably hear it.
jordan holmes
Let's see it.
alex jones
Maybe I'll try to get a hold of Kiana Reeves.
dan friesen
Good luck.
jordan holmes
Please do.
At least try to get a hold of Keanu.
alex jones
What did you really say in the clip?
Because I don't want to judge what you said off of Clip because I don't know the context of it, but this is creepy as hell.
Here's a clip.
keanu reeves
I don't know.
I was having dinner with a friend's house, this director, and he had some kids.
And there was like a 13-year-old, a 15-year-old, 17-year-old.
jordan holmes
And this is a parable.
keanu reeves
They hadn't seen the film Matrix.
And so the director's like, well, why don't you just tell them it's about?
So I started to say, well, there's this guy who's in a kind of virtual world, and he finds out that there's a real world, and he's really questioning what's real and not real.
And he really wants to know what's real.
And the young girl was like, why?
And I was like, what do you mean?
She was like, who cares if it's real?
And I was like, but you don't care if it's real.
And she was like, no, it's awesome.
jordan holmes
Do you think it's awesome?
keanu reeves
I mean, it's awesome.
I mean, it's awesome.
alex jones
Did you catch that right there?
That's a jump cut.
Play that again.
Play the clip again here in just a moment where it jump cuts and then he says it's awesome.
I don't think Kiana Reeves said that that's awesome, that she doesn't like reality and that she wants to be in the Matrix.
I think he said something about a film or something he's doing is awesome or something else she said was awesome.
That's another deception.
In fact, my gut tells me, knowing Kiana Reeves, that's fake.
Here's a clip again.
Oh my God.
dan friesen
So here's something Alex could do.
He could take two minutes to figure out where the clip he's playing came from.
He's just playing a little snippet of a clip that was spreading on social media, but if he really cared at all and wanted to present his audience with any real information, he could have taken the literally two minutes it took me to find the full interview that this is from.
This is from an interview that Keanu and Carrie-Ann Moss did with The Verge in advance of the release of the fourth Matrix movie.
It's a year-old interview that Alex only has any awareness of because one of his underlings found it on social media, and now he's blindly playing it and wrestling with what the context for this could possibly be.
When if he cared, the context is easily accessible.
It's right there for him to find.
He doesn't need to call Keanu and find out what he said.
Just watch the fucking 18-minute interview.
jordan holmes
How did you get there?
Did you call Keanu to get this information?
dan friesen
I didn't.
I just found the interview.
jordan holmes
With what power?
dan friesen
Google.
jordan holmes
Oh, guess what?
Well, yeah, that seems to be.
dan friesen
Guess what, dude?
It is a jump cut.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's also more or less in context.
Here is the actual interview.
keanu reeves
You know, I feel like it's the first time in a long time that the real world is almost ahead of our science fiction.
I mean, the whole idea of trying to pursue, like, when can we make it photoreal?
When can we fool?
I mean, all of the deep fake, you know, technologies that are happening.
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah, it hurts the mind.
keanu reeves
No, no, but I mean, it's like, it's almost, you know, it's like it's the why, right?
We can't.
We have to keep the species has to keep creating.
The species is like, oh, I can do that.
Let's keep going to do that, you know, and no one can predict the future.
I don't know.
I was having dinner with a friend's house, this director, and he had some kids, and there was like a 13-year-old, a 15-year-old, 17-year-old.
And they hadn't seen the film The Matrix.
And so the director was like, well, why don't you just tell them what it's about?
So I started to say, well, there's this guy who's in a kind of virtual world, and he finds out that there's a real world, and he's really questioning what's real and not real.
And he really wants to know what's real.
And the young girl was like, why?
And I was like, what do you mean?
She was like, who cares if it's real?
And I was like, but you don't care if it's real.
And she was like, no.
Isn't that wild?
It's awesome.
You think it's awesome?
I mean, it's awesome.
I mean, it's awesome.
I mean, this idea of that, you know, so in a way, what you and I are kind of speaking about is kind of like a legacy feeling.
We're almost like, oh, you're older versions.
Just let it go.
unidentified
I know, I'm the mom at the kitchen table, like talking about the possibility of like a virtual world for my kids, and I'm crying, you know?
Like, that's how it feels for me.
But now I just, I don't know, just kind of like sitting around the table and talking.
keanu reeves
I love how it goes.
unidentified
Call me crazy.
keanu reeves
No, no, but you'll be able to sit around at your table and talking.
unidentified
What if it's not a real table?
What if I don't know?
keanu reeves
What would be a table?
That's the other question, too, which is one of the issues that we're being confronted by very quickly.
dan friesen
It's a really interesting interview.
And the jumping off point for a lot of this is the creation of the Matrix game, which utilized the Unreal Engine to take assets from the actual movie, as well as digital recreations of the actors in the film to create very realistic avatars.
This prompts the conversation about the implications of being able to create virtual versions of actors.
Will they even need the people to make movies in the future?
This touches on like Carrie Fisher being in Star Wars posthumously, among other points.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Keanu was saying that this perspective that the young girl was bringing up was awesome, but it wasn't like in the really great definition of awesome.
It was pretty clear he meant it in the inspiring awe definition.
He even does this hand gesture where he's like, fills you with awe.
Yeah.
Anyway, this is an indication of Alex's work process.
He does literally no preparation for the show because he doesn't give a shit about the quality of the product he's making.
He knows that the audience is captured and they don't require much of him.
So he's just freestyling this bullshit out while pretending to be friends with Keanu.
And that's a good day at work.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Whatever.
keanu reeves
Who cares?
dan friesen
I feel like I found this dumb clip and now I'm going to make it suspicious that there's a cut in it, but then not do any at all.
No curiosity-based investigation into what was going on here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if I was going to guess, I'd be like, oh, so somebody found that clip, and Alex was like, I know Keanu.
I'm going to talk about that.
dan friesen
Or I was plausibly, I'm plausibly able to claim I know him because we were in Scanner Darkly.
jordan holmes
We were in Scanner Darkly, theoretically together.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex didn't go find the clip at all.
Sure.
But he's decided he's going to make some conclusions about it.
alex jones
This is what the deceivers do.
You saw they spliced that tape.
And so I'm going to try to get a hold of Keanu and find out the truth.
But the issue there is that's what the left does.
They deceive.
How is this going to show you something, Keanu?
Where did we even show up?
We don't know.
He really said it.
And let's make him say what we want.
Let's get rid of his free will.
Let's actually capture his identity and then misrepresent what he really said.
And let's do it not with a deep fake, but with an edited video.
And let's do it right in front of your face.
dan friesen
This is really sad.
unidentified
This is.
dan friesen
One of the reasons it's really sad is that if Alex knew anything about where this clip came from, he could make this so much more of a meaningful conversation.
Because ironically, the issue of people's images being made to say things is exactly what a lot of this interview is about.
It's Keanu and Carrie-Ann wrestling with the technological advancements and how that impacts the dynamics of creation.
Their conversation is way more insightful and interesting than anything Alex has, but if he did any work, he'd be able to fold in some of their comments into this presentation, and that would elevate it past the point of just being an idiot blindly responding to a clip someone else found on Twitter.
And he just decided, oh, I'm going to talk about this today.
Oh, the left edited this.
jordan holmes
Oh, the left.
I forgot that we had done that one.
Oh, man.
The left again.
dan friesen
This is how they deceive.
jordan holmes
The left is trying to take Keanu from us, a far-right figure of note for the past however many years.
And now he's on the left saying that stuff is awesome.
dan friesen
Well, I know that the left doesn't want him because he is an FBI agent.
Wait, the right doesn't want him either.
They don't like the FBI.
jordan holmes
They don't like the FBI.
Anyway, but he was a great college quarterback, so they do like him.
dan friesen
This is all very stupid.
And if Alex did a grain of work, just a tiny little bit of.
jordan holmes
Just Google it.
dan friesen
Yeah, how do you see a clip that has a jump cut in it and not just Google it?
Where is this from?
What does this actually say?
Before you decide to get in front of your billions and billions of listeners.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
And it's just pathetic.
jordan holmes
I mean, half the time when I write a joke or even a premise, I Google the premise just to make sure that somebody hasn't already written a better joke.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
Very sad.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex saw something else on Twitter that he's mad about.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Okay, let's hit some of the news here.
dan friesen
This is the news.
alex jones
I want to play clip nine.
Because if you go to Twitter and you see this clip, it's vicious microscopic life.
And it's titled, Watch a Cell Bite and Kill Another Cell.
And it's under an electron microscope.
And it shows another cell go over, excrete some enzymes.
Gross.
And burst the membrane.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Of the cell, and then the other cell, an amoeba, starts eating the guts, the mitochondria.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Of the cell.
It's just killed.
Nom, nom, nom, nom.
As its guts spill out.
Now, if you go to Twitter, I read like 100 of the comments this morning or more.
Oh, poor cell.
It's so sad.
It's so mean.
It's terrible.
Oh, this shows why we need the vaccine to save us.
Oh, my God.
jordan holmes
These horrible governance by YouTube comments.
alex jones
And they show all this compassion for the cell, but not the compassion for the unborn baby.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
You didn't think that's where that was going.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Quite.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's a twist at the end that I almost want to relive.
That's some fucking serious M-night shy-malan level twist.
Surprise, you didn't know.
dan friesen
You're almost 50.
Alex, stop paying attention to fucking Twitter replies.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
When I was growing up, I always resented when I would go to the library and I'd pick out a book and somebody, one of the librarians or something would be like, this is above your reading level.
I don't think you want to do that.
Because I was like, no, I can absolutely read at this level and I want to learn more.
And now I'm like, oh, I totally understand.
Like, the moment he starts talking about cells, I want to be like, no, We got to go all the way back.
Dude, you're not ready for this yet.
dan friesen
I cut out a long portion where he tries to talk about mitochondria.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
Just because I was, I couldn't even handle it.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
Like, go back to the beginning, dude.
This is above your reading level.
I know you're trying hard.
dan friesen
Well, you bring up an interesting idea about this beyond your reading level thing because I think that there's a dynamic that when you're younger and you're like trying to read above your reading level, that's good because what you're doing is challenging yourself and like, you know, trying to sharpen your blade on a, you know.
And I think that you can grow through that as long as you step up to the challenge of this other material.
Maybe you don't fully understand it all the time, but you pick up some pieces.
jordan holmes
Accept it with accept your failures with humility as corrections to be.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that's a positive thing.
And I think what Alex does is the reverse, which is he bases a lot of his ideas on YouTube comments and Twitter replies.
Right.
And like that is reading below anyone's reading level.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
And basing ideas on that just like it softens you.
Like there is nothing.
There is no challenge to that.
There is nothing.
If you want to make whatever argument you want, you can find Twitter replies that'll make that for you.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
It's just a shortcut to being able to make whatever point you want and pretending it's based on something.
Won't somebody think of the unborn babies?
They care so much about this cell.
That's a stupid point.
But all these people are saying it on Twitter, and therefore it has meaning.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there is something to be said about a stream of passive information completely ruining your ability to actively search for information.
dan friesen
That's true.
That's why I avoid a lot of any of it.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's probably why I started reading a lot more whenever I quit Twitter.
Sure.
alex jones
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Imagine if my work process was finding Twitter comments that were against Alex.
jordan holmes
Man, the number of things, the number of slight changes to either of our personalities at this whole thing falls apart.
dan friesen
So we've got the news.
There was a clip of Keyner Reeves that Alex didn't see that he's decided to draw conclusions on.
jordan holmes
I forgot we called that the news.
dan friesen
That was the news.
jordan holmes
I forgot that.
dan friesen
Also, a cell ate another cell.
jordan holmes
I love the complete inability to recognize the, like, it's not the cell.
The human beings are reacting with empathy to the situation, imagining themselves in that situation.
And I'm going to keep comparing it to other situations.
dan friesen
And I'm going to guess that's not a very widespread response of empathy for this.
I think a lot of people don't personify necessarily a cell.
jordan holmes
But if you were going to, you're not like the cell itself is under attack.
dan friesen
If you're Alex, you do.
jordan holmes
What are you going to do?
dan friesen
So there's other news, and we get back to those deaths, those big, unexpected deaths of 90-plus-year-old famous people.
alex jones
But who else?
jordan holmes
The queen.
alex jones
Who died this year?
Well, on the last day of the year.
Rat Singer's funeral mass on January 5th, 2023.
And the number 23 in Illuminati Synchronicity.
We're going to try to get Leo Sagami on the show the next few days.
We tried today, but he didn't answer.
I get it.
It's holiday.
dan friesen
He's in grieving.
He's having a very, just little point.
If the number 23 was really all that important, then they probably wouldn't have killed him for another day or two.
He's 95.
Yeah.
Hold off for a day.
Because he died in 2022.
So the 23 number isn't that.
Oh, it's the funeral that's important.
jordan holmes
There's no rush in either direction.
dan friesen
This next clip is about the other celebrity.
This is about Barbara Walters.
This is just mean.
alex jones
Barbara Walters, trailblazing TV icon, dead in 93.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Damn.
Holy shit.
Rude.
dan friesen
Disrespectful.
I understand.
jordan holmes
That is very funny, though.
dan friesen
I understand being iconoclastic and not liking the media and what have you, but that's rude.
That is just.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Cool.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
That's very funny.
dan friesen
So those are the news.
That's the news we've got.
jordan holmes
See, that seems more reasonable for him to say about the queen than it does about Barbara Walters.
Like, Barbara Walters worked her ass off, and the queen was just born the queen, you know?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, the queen did some things, and she forgot that day that she was a patriot.
So Alex says, that's true.
jordan holmes
He did have to memorialize her.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're right.
So we have one last clip, and here's how Alex wraps things up.
alex jones
Please commit in the new year to spread the word more than ever, to share the clips, to share the articles, to share the reports, to share the videos, and to buy great products that will empower you and your body and your family's immune systems at InfowarStore.com.
Make the commitment.
Make the decision today.
However, you can help fight.
And I salute you and thank you all.
That's it for the final broadcast of the epic, insane, wild year of 2022.
And I'm here to tell you, 2023 is guaranteed to even be more insane.
And we'll be here dutifully fighting as hard as we can, clinging on to dear life.
We hope you keep this on air.
God bless.
And I'll see you in the year 2023.
dan friesen
What a meaningless show.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
It's just, I was, you know, trying to find things to hold on to, footholds.
And I'm like, look, I don't expect much.
This guy has disappointed me for coming on six years now or whatever.
You know, like, it's, I get it.
He sucks.
alex jones
Yeah.
Whatever.
dan friesen
No big deal.
jordan holmes
We're a little bit late to be surprised by it now.
dan friesen
But I'm still surprised at how bad this was.
I mean, like, bring some, do a number.
unidentified
Do a song.
jordan holmes
Anything.
dan friesen
Like, it's your.
jordan holmes
It's the end of the year.
This is why we can't do a year-end roundup or anything, because we'd go too far.
We'd be like, well, if we're going to do a year roundup, we have to do it.
dan friesen
I'd rewrite old life.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we'd do the whole thing.
It'd be a mess.
dan friesen
It would be.
Yeah.
And we'd have nearly the resources, Alex.
jordan holmes
Yes.
We've got nothing.
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is just, I don't know.
It's a wet blanket on a year.
You know, he could have, he could have tried.
Instead, it's just excessive begging for money, rambling about meaningless nonsense about a fucking Satan dial.
Yeah.
And then the actual news that he's covering are clips that he saw on Twitter and celebrity deaths he doesn't care about and one maybe that he could have covered, but Leo Zagami didn't answer his.
jordan holmes
You can't talk about the Pope if Leo Zagami isn't around.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
What are you going to say?
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
I don't know.
You can't.
Can't do it.
And then also, like, let's not forget the promise of the predictions just being completely unpaid off.
Yeah.
Like, I'm going to go to the woods.
And now we learn here on Sunday, he didn't even go to the woods.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So how are we going to find out what's going to happen in the future?
If Alex does believe he can see the future, he is depriving us of a vision of the future by not going to the woods, by not locking himself in his office.
He is by not doing that, he is harming the world.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yes.
To actually follow the things that Alex believes to their logical conclusions, one can only assume that Alex Jones himself is doing massive amounts of harm to the world by being lazy.
dan friesen
I can sign off on that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, that's what he believes.
dan friesen
You know what?
It's ironic because I think that if he tried harder, he would do more damage.
unidentified
True.
dan friesen
But conceivably, because he does such little work, his carelessness causes a lot of problems too.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
I think he'd probably cause as much damage whether he did a lot of work or not.
It's just what kind of damage is it?
jordan holmes
In my estimation of him, I think regardless of what he does, he should probably have two or three people watching him and controlling his behavior.
You know, like he can't not be the worst at anything.
He's just the worst.
dan friesen
Except, like I said, improvised murder fantasies.
He's pretty good at that.
jordan holmes
But that makes him the worst, you know?
dan friesen
I don't disagree.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So here's what's going to happen.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
On our next episode.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm going to find out if he gets these predictions.
jordan holmes
Any fucking better.
dan friesen
I demand to know these predictions.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
I'm going to be on him like a hawk.
I'm going to be fine-tooth comb through everything he puts out until he gives me the predictions of what's going to happen this year.
jordan holmes
Here's the thing.
I'm not making any New Year's predictions or anything like that.
I don't do that.
What I'm interested in, though, Dan, what is your prediction for one of Alex's predictions?
What do you think one of his predictions may be?
dan friesen
Lockdowns.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Another bioweapon.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
Probably something like that.
jordan holmes
He's got to take one big swing, though.
Here's my guess on his big swing.
dan friesen
Hillary becomes president.
jordan holmes
My guess on his big swing is he's going to say that they're going to take out Putin for reals this time.
dan friesen
I don't know if Alex would want to have that concrete of a prediction.
But, hey, we'll see.
I don't know.
Here's what I'm willing to do.
Never mind.
I'm going to walk this park.
I was going to say I'm willing to go to the woods with Alex in order to get these predictions, but no, I am not.
jordan holmes
No, you are not.
dan friesen
I'd like to go to the woods, but Alex would ruin it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, anyway, we'll be back, hopefully, with some predictions of the future.
Possible.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at KnowledgeUnderscore Fight.
dan friesen
Yep.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm going to go lock myself in my office with the lights off and a pen light for seven hours to see the future.
jordan holmes
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
unidentified
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your work.
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