#711: August 2, 2022
Today, Dan and Jordan give an update on the Sandy Hook trial, taking a particular focus on Alex's behavior on air while Neil Heslin was testifying, and claims Alex made that a clip of him was used dishonestly in court.
Aug. 3, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
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| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
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Dan and George. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine from afar, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones in a hotel room. | ||
| Indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan! | ||
| Dan! | ||
| What's up? | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| Uh, what do you got? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| My bright spot today, Jordan, is twofold. | ||
| Uh, the first is that we're heading back to Chicago. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Without giving too much away in terms of doxing our location, I have not enjoyed the stay at this hotel all that much. | ||
| The service is not good. | ||
| There's a lot of noise from the building next to us. | ||
| There have been multiple false alarm fire alarms. | ||
| Twice we went down 15 flights of stairs. | ||
| Yeah, I miss my cat and I want to go home. | ||
| I want to see how my potato plants are coming along. | ||
| Half the plugs in my room don't work. | ||
| The desk was broken when I got there and I bet $5,000 they're going to try and charge me for it. | ||
| Yeah, and so we've been here and we've experienced a lot of the trial and we've seen things, been in the room and what have you. | ||
| And we figured that tomorrow being a travel day would be the most economical thing for us to do in terms of being able to be back and respond to some of the results of the trial as opposed to us staying another week. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if we're gonna... | ||
| Because it could get way out of control. | ||
| And it could just process... | ||
| Yeah, God knows. | ||
| If we start thinking, hey, we're gonna just stick it out. | ||
| This is the trial of InfoWars. | ||
| What do you think sticking it out is gonna last? | ||
| Yeah, and there's this notion that like, oh, well maybe... | ||
| You know, they'll just deliberate for five minutes, and then we'll be fine. | ||
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Right. | |
| But you can't bank on anything like that. | ||
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No, absolutely not. | |
| You don't really know. | ||
| And so I am excited to go home and be able to sleep. | ||
| I could full stop. | ||
| Yeah, full stop is a good one. | ||
| With a cat on me, and that'll be great. | ||
| But it's been nice, and I appreciate the kindness of folks here outside of the hotel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then second prong on this bright spot is DJ Danarchy is working on a Cantina theme remix, and I'm liking where it's going. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Cantina theme remix of our theme song. | ||
| When he tweeted that out, I was like, I need it now, Dan! | ||
| Dan, get on it! | ||
| God damn, I'm going to lose my mind. | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| It might take over the official theme. | ||
| I really might. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| We've used the cantina theme too many times since we've been down here, let alone going forward, though. | ||
| That's true. | ||
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That's true. | |
| I feel like it's much like the Caravanity Project had a theme of its own. | ||
| I mean, not a theme song, but it had like a vibe of its own. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This trip has really been cantina themed. | ||
| It has been. | ||
| The problem with it... | ||
| Is it is thematically appropriate to how serious Alex is taking this. | ||
| True. | ||
| And we'll talk about that a little bit today. | ||
| But what's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot is today. | ||
| My bright spot was also the dark spot and just maybe the most powerful spot. | ||
| Miss Lewis looked Alex in the fucking eye and Alex blanched. | ||
| You know? | ||
| True. | ||
| That was dope. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I wish I could use better words, but really, really. | ||
| That was powerful. | ||
| Yeah, so we're recording this on Tuesday, and today was, I think, fair to describe as kind of the more heavy day of testimony that we've heard. | ||
| You had Neil Heslin and Scarlett Lewis take the stand, and Alex was not there during Neil's testimony, and I think that that was... | ||
| I mean, first of all, just... | ||
| A passive act of disrespect. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Maybe somewhat active. | ||
| I would say active, yeah. | ||
| But he did show up in the middle of Scarlet's testimony. | ||
| The tail end, as one might think, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, and her poise in being able to say things sort of bluntly and directly to Alex was... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That was powerful. | ||
| I don't know how you do that. | ||
| I really don't. | ||
| No, I really don't. | ||
| I really, really, really, really, really, really don't. | ||
| And I could not admire her more enough. | ||
| Well, I think that... | ||
| I mean, I've looked at Alex in the face before. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I've been in that deposition room with him. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think that you see the eyes of a fish when you look at him. | ||
| Like, I don't think that... | ||
| I feel like if you're expecting to have some sort of an emotional impact or something when you're saying emotionally impactful words, it's kind of a... | ||
| It's a chore that will not be completed. | ||
| At some points in time, the way he looks out and his eyes kind of go in opposite directions, I halfway think his tongue is going to shoot out and get a bug off of one of them. | ||
| And then you're like, no, I caught that! | ||
| You're a lizard! | ||
| Swear on your oath you're not a lizard. | ||
| Swear you're not a lizard! | ||
| But yeah, and so just to be able to power through that is admirable. | ||
| And so we'll talk a little bit about that, and then we're going to be going over Alex's show from today as well. | ||
| My God. | ||
| August 2nd, 2022. | ||
| How? | ||
| What he was doing while the trial was in session. | ||
| While Neil was testifying. | ||
| Yeah, and I feel like there's not a whole lot more to say than the two of them gave. | ||
| Quite powerful testimony. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Moving. | ||
| There were some tears in the courtroom and what have you. | ||
| Oh, I cried. | ||
| Yeah, you did. | ||
| Yeah, I really did. | ||
| I tried not to look at you. | ||
| You were fine. | ||
| But yeah, I don't have a whole lot to analyze of that other than to say it was quite a thing to behold. | ||
| The mood in the courtroom was quite serious. | ||
| True. | ||
| And then Alex showed up and things were a little bit less serious. | ||
| It was... | ||
| It is kind of crazy to... | ||
| I mean, and I told you, you know, when we were walking to the court, I was like, today is going to be the weirdest juxtaposition that may ever exist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And goddammit if it didn't live up to that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It really did. | ||
| Just emotionally difficult and sort of optimistic even within the darkness kind of conversation about... | ||
| By people who've gone through hell. | ||
| And then, you know, we're coming back from lunch and standing outside the courthouse, well, seven maybe now, reporters? | ||
| Maybe seven. | ||
| Still no, like, overt InfoWars fans, except for Rob Dew's mom, I think. | ||
| I guess, was that his mom? | ||
| It might have been his mom. | ||
| Some lady who said that she was filming for Rob Dew, and then you told her not to use the iPhone because it has too many chemtrails. | ||
| Yes, I did. | ||
| Which is a mistake. | ||
| You should have said 5G. | ||
| I know! | ||
| I legitimately forgot what 5G was. | ||
| In that moment, I was like, all I've got is chemtrails. | ||
| That was my only pull. | ||
| See, that's how she marked you as a prankster, and she did not take your warning seriously. | ||
| I know, I know. | ||
| But yeah, it was bizarre, because Alex shows up, and he's like, the Democrats are jamming me up. | ||
| It was the Democrats. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so Alex got to the stand and did a little bit of direct questioning from his lawyer, who you love so much. | ||
| Oh, I love him. | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| I think by the end of the day... | ||
| The judge was saying that Alex had lied under oath twice. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think that number is low. | ||
| That was at least four, I think. | ||
| They missed a few things, but there's some things you could be understood to have missed. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| That are like, you're not going to pick up on this. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like Alex saying that he left Rockwall because there's too much crime. | ||
| I wanted to scream! | ||
| I wanted to scream! | ||
| I wanted to be like, hey, go! | ||
| Almost killed a guy! | ||
| Yeah, or the cops were gonna kill him because he uncovered a drug ring within the police department and he's a hero boy. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, you know, there's stuff like that. | ||
| But it was just kind of like, hey, Alex, why don't you tell us this protracted story about why you're so great and your various accomplishments in the field of roguish journalism. | ||
| It was... | ||
| It was very annoying. | ||
| It was as if, like, imagine you had never learned English. | ||
| And, in fact, never learned language at all. | ||
| You were born in a cave. | ||
| You lived in a cave. | ||
| You were 45 years old when you walked into this trial. | ||
| The moment you saw Alex start talking, you would immediately understand the definition of the word bloviate. | ||
| And it would just pop into your head, and that would be the only word you can speak. | ||
| You'd be like, bloviate! | ||
| Bloviate! | ||
| That's what it was. | ||
| It was the epitome. | ||
| It was the epitome. | ||
| And so by the end of the day, the day wrapped with the judge dismissing the jury. | ||
| And Mark raising some important questions about things that Alex had said. | ||
| Alex said that he was bankrupt on the stand. | ||
| Can't do that. | ||
| Which is directly against the orders of the judge. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And one of the concerns was that his lawyer led him to that statement, more or less. | ||
| Which allegedly he did 100% absolutely on purpose. | ||
| And allegedly accidentally also. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then also Alex brought up, and the lawyer had brought up in terms of the line of questioning, the notion that he is not guilty of the things that he is guilty of. | ||
| I don't know how many times I am going to observe... | ||
| In a trial about damages, an attempt to prove innocence. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| It is wild. | ||
| And so we ended on a bit, I mean, you know, if this were a TV show, there's a bit of a cliffhanger aspect to it that is like serious problems are brought up with how things are going. | ||
| Direct examination isn't done, so that'll still pick up tomorrow. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| And so... | ||
| I think I speak for you as well in that, like, that was an exhausting day. | ||
| I think, obviously, for other people more than us. | ||
| No, of course. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But it would be very difficult to be in that room and experience all that happened and not just be like, woof. | ||
| I mean, I don't even know if I can do it again, like, straight up. | ||
| Like, when he said the reason that he left Rockwall was because there was too much crime. | ||
| Like, I mean, I got a warning again from the bailiff for making too many faces or whatever. | ||
| And you warned me, too. | ||
| I know! | ||
| I think Alex said... | ||
| No, I didn't warn you. | ||
| I said, this is the first time you're going to have to try not to laugh. | ||
| You said you have to leave. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Well, that was when you... | ||
| Well, because Alex said that the goal of talk show hosts is to make the most right predictions. | ||
| I mean, the moment he said he was trying to... | ||
| Here's what he described. | ||
| He described that as talk show hosts... | ||
| Become more popular. | ||
| It becomes a game between all of the talk show hosts. | ||
| There's like a power rank. | ||
| Yeah, who gets the most predictions right? | ||
| And every day that is measured and then you're like in the lead or not. | ||
| There's like a psychic Nielsen ratings. | ||
| What? | ||
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He was! | |
| So I almost lost my shit laughing. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| And then when Alex said that, like, I don't really want to do the news much anymore, I do more of a philosophy show. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| More of a self-help kind of thing. | ||
| I almost wanted to yell, Reset World! | ||
| Or something, but, like, it was just insufferable. | ||
| Yeah, we can't be in there. | ||
| We can't be in there. | ||
| And I think that was the lesson that I learned from being in a position where, like, Alright, this is very serious. | ||
| Alex is on the stand. | ||
| I respect the process. | ||
| I respect what's going on. | ||
| I respect the plaintiffs. | ||
| You know, to... | ||
| Not be able to laugh at him is very hard. | ||
| And I'm not immune to that. | ||
| As much as people think I have ice water in my veins. | ||
| Superhuman ice water in your veins. | ||
| Some sort of Kryptonian ice water in your veins. | ||
| I apparently can't not laugh at Alex talking about the prediction hierarchy. | ||
| I mean, listen, it took a lot. | ||
| It took a lot, Dan. | ||
| It took a shitty hotel. | ||
| It took weeks being in a terrible state. | ||
| It took us going to a courtroom for hours. | ||
| It took us experiencing some of the most devastating personal stories, let alone, like, testimony in a court. | ||
| But just, if somebody was telling me this story, it would be devastating. | ||
| For you to eventually come all the way over to my side and say, I half... | ||
| To laugh, to survive. | ||
| I just can't control myself. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And to reach the revelation that I think a lot of people would have reached much sooner, and that is like, I just don't want to be around this guy. | ||
| I don't want to be in the same room as him. | ||
| He's real sad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's easier to discuss this with a slight amount of distance, and I'm going to reclaim my space. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And my proximity to a very beloved one-eyed cat. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So the day ended on a bit of a sour note. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And that happened, you can see the video on the Law& Crime website of us leaving the courtroom. | ||
| First three seconds of the video that everyone is sharing shows you and I walking out of the courtroom. | ||
| And we left pretty, like, meaningfully. | ||
| Fifteen seconds before it happened, and we were like, we're out of... | ||
| I was on a, like... | ||
| I want to pass out. | ||
| I want to take a nap. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| This is killing me. | ||
| Also, just, you know, you can't vape in the courtroom. | ||
| Right, and we needed... | ||
| Yeah, I needed some sort of a nicotine hit. | ||
| And so, yeah, went out. | ||
| You know, didn't mingle, let's say. | ||
| And thank our lucky stars that we didn't because there's a little bit of another fight. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| You just... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know in your heart of hearts... | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| You know it's going to happen. | ||
| We've studied this man for how long? | ||
| A while. | ||
| What world would we believe that this wouldn't happen, right? | ||
| That's some kind of bullshit. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| And then at the same time, I was sitting in there today going like, well, you know, we're in a courtroom. | ||
| I don't know why I would think that Alex would see a difference between sitting on a witness stand and sitting behind his desk. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It turns out there may not be a difference for him, which is scary. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And so what ended up happening was the judge had left the room and Miss Lewis Scarlett had handed Alex a water. | ||
| I'm not sure exactly what predicated that. | ||
| Well, he had been coughing his entire testimony. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| Quite aggressively. | ||
| He had been complaining about having a torn larynx that sometimes flares up and that he will be better in a moment. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Definitely did not come off false. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then whenever, you know, it was important for him to listen and not talk, boy, his throat was so fine. | ||
| Yeah, and it made a remarkable heel-up job before he went outside and yelled at people's cameras. | ||
| Oh, yeah, for quite a while. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| So she was like, listen, let me give you this bottle of water. | ||
| You need it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How did it go? | ||
| Well, Alex started saying that they had been manipulated and shown fake videos and edited videos, and then he went for a handshake with her and then Mr. Hesslin, and that was when the lawyers were like, we're not doing this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Alex started to get mad about edited videos again, and it was disgraceful. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And shitty. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So that was kind of where things left off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Until Alex went outside the courtroom, and there were some cameras. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And here I'm going to play a bit of video, or, I mean, it came from video. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Oh, yes. | ||
| Of Alex's comments about what happened at the end of the day. | ||
| Outside the courtroom. | ||
| He apologizes. | ||
| He admits that he was wrong. | ||
| He says that he shouldn't have said about the fake video, right? | ||
| Just off from that. | ||
| Slightly off. | ||
| So close. | ||
| Ambulance chasers that have been caught airing a doctored tape claiming... | ||
| That I attacked Scarlett Lewis today on air when I did not. | ||
| I said, I think she's a good person. | ||
| I think she's a real person. | ||
| I think her son died, and I'm sorry for her. | ||
| They edited that off. | ||
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But you did allude that Mr. Heslin was mentally impaired. | |
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| They edited the part off where I... | ||
| They edited the part off... | ||
| Hold on a minute. | ||
| They edited... | ||
| Don't you care that I said I believe her son died and I think she's real and they edited that off? | ||
| Can't you, corporate media, get your act together? | ||
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It's hard to believe that when you get on your show and make claims that you said today. | |
| This is not an attack. | ||
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We just want to have a conversation. | |
| What did I say in the video? | ||
| What did I say in the video? | ||
| I said I believe that Scarlett Lewis and Neal Heslund are being manipulated. | ||
| She's smart. | ||
| He's a little bit slow. | ||
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I said they're giving them edited tapes, and then they did. | |
| Are you asking a question? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Listen, we've caught them red-handed editing tapes. | ||
| That's why they have to rig this whole thing. | ||
| And that's why the other... | ||
| Why are you guys here talking to me about the trial? | ||
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Because you've been talking about it. | |
| Hold on a minute, lady. | ||
| If I'm bad to talk on my show about it, is it okay for me to talk to you right now? | ||
| Or are you doing something bad? | ||
| Why are you talking to me during a trial? | ||
| Well, I can't. | ||
| Hold on, hold on. | ||
| I can't talk to you. | ||
| She said I can't talk on my own show. | ||
| Means I can't talk to you either. | ||
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You're on trial for defamation. | |
| Why are you not sitting here? | ||
| I know, but the point is, is that I have my First Amendment. | ||
| It doesn't matter if the judges said we can't talk about the First Amendment. | ||
| We're going to talk about it. | ||
| She put out a motion in Limity, ordering us out to talk about the First Amendment and then withdrew it from the Court of Appeals because she knew it'd be struck down. | ||
| This is tyranny being developed and created in here. | ||
| And I'm going to tell you the story here I know you won't cover. | ||
| It's Neil Heslund and his ex-wife, wonderful lady. | ||
| Now that I've had a chance to see her in here and read her book and all of it. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| Come over and shake my hand and then try to hug me and then boom, the lawyers jump in front to keep control of them. | ||
| They tried to come over and hug me and watch. | ||
| You guys won't show it and that's why people hate the corporate media. | ||
| You're still doing you, Alex. | ||
| Listen, it doesn't matter. | ||
| You'll never shut down America and you will be defeated. | ||
| And I pledge to only expand what we're doing. | ||
| Yeah, so that is... | ||
| It's an interesting question, because that's not true at all. | ||
| Not even a little bit. | ||
| But it's interesting to wonder if that is legitimately how Alex experienced the exchange, or if it's just... | ||
| Like, is it delusion, or is it malice and lies? | ||
| You know, I watched the video quite a bit, because I had that very same question of, like... | ||
| There's no way, you know? | ||
| And what I think, and, you know, I mean, obviously we're speculating, so I would not be called as an expert. | ||
| I've pulled up a DSL. | ||
| The wrong one. | ||
| And so, watching it, I truly believe that Alex, when he went up to them at first to apologize, Believed that what he was going to do was express genuine remorse to them. | ||
| And then, because he couldn't do it the way he wanted to. | ||
| Right, that included the also I'm right. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| When Mark and company got in the way, he did what he did. | ||
| He did what he does. | ||
| And then it becomes... | ||
| They were trying to hug me. | ||
| They love me. | ||
| They're my fans now. | ||
| Like, you know, that kind of thing. | ||
| They admit I'm right, but the lawyers won't let them say it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They're being manipulated. | ||
| Like, wow. | ||
| Still gonna go, man. | ||
| So, this brings us to our central question. | ||
| And that has to do with the tape that Alex is referring to. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| During Mr. Hesland's testimony, Alex was on air. | ||
| And he was saying some bad shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| About everything, but also Mr. Heslin in particular. | ||
| Specifically, by name. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And so, during the break, the clip of this was procured by the plaintiff's team, and it was played. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And Alex then used that as kind of a hinge for him to make a, they're playing edited videos because it doesn't show the part where I said I'm sorry and all this. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So, doing what we do as a show, I thought, let's look at the totality of this. | ||
| There's no reason to... | ||
| Alex didn't say anything in his testimony today that is worth... | ||
| Discussing, really. | ||
| And the court doesn't have time to listen to the full video, but do you know who does? | ||
| The court of public opinion. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| So we're going to start here where Alex starts on the second, and boy, he's whiny. | ||
| Thank you for joining us on this live Tuesday worldwide transmission. | ||
| I have a stack of Washington Post, New York Times articles, and other headlines. | ||
| Where they say, can we shut Alex Jones down? | ||
| And where they admit the goal of the four Sandy Hook trials they have lined up that have now started to shut us down, then they brag on CNN and MSNBC, the top Democrat officials, that the goal is to set this pattern with Alex Jones and then go after everybody else. | ||
| They say Fox News is next. | ||
| I have articles where they talk about we're taking down OAN. | ||
| Soon we'll get Fox News. | ||
| They're going to come for everybody. | ||
| I'm sure that Alex doesn't have tons of articles that say this, and to the extent that he does have any, I'm sure they're op-eds and not some revelation of a grand conspiracy to shut up the media. | ||
| Also, if anyone at Fox or CNN or The View did what Alex did, I think they should be punished just the same. | ||
| It's so weird that Alex has so many strong feelings about this, but he doesn't seem to even remember that, like, Seth Rich's parents sued Fox News and settled for an undisclosed amount, or how CNN settled a lawsuit with Nick Sandman, the Covington Catholic kid, back in 2020. | ||
| He doesn't bring up any of this stuff because... | ||
| He doesn't give a shit about the actual principle of people suing media entities and how that happens from time to time, and it doesn't lead to a complete end of the First Amendment and tyranny and the devil walking among us. | ||
| No, it leads to CNN's lawyers talking to other lawyers and being like, listen, we know we fucked up here. | ||
| Let's figure out a reasonable amount of money where we're fine and you guys are taken care of and we all get to go home. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Yep. | |
| All Alex cares about is comically exaggerating his own persecution because that in turn inflates his sense of heroism. | ||
| Everyone's so against him and he's up against such great odds and yet he fights on. | ||
| It's just a breathtaking act of imaginary bravery. | ||
| And, you know, that's the whole game. | ||
| Imaginary is the perfect word for it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Because it doesn't get more cowardly than literally everything he's done today. | ||
| No doubt. | ||
| No doubt. | ||
| And I think that, you know, people give... | ||
| Maybe rightfully. | ||
| They give Don Quixote a tough time for the windmill thing. | ||
| He had some issues. | ||
| Fighting all those windmill nights. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Alex does a similar thing, but with straw men. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's how he protects his own cowardice and makes it seem like heroism. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And here's a big one. | ||
| These are authoritarians. | ||
| That's why they had to default me in all four cases, saying I turned over nothing. | ||
| While they sit there and show the juries that are deciding how guilty I am, not if I'm guilty or innocent, showing the juries all these emails and all these videos that we turned over to them, while the judge tells them every day, twice a day, remember, this man's guilty. | ||
| You're here to decide how guilty he is. | ||
| He didn't give us anything! | ||
| He's a bad person! | ||
| Even in third world dictatorships, when they have kangaroo courts, they don't have the judge tell the jury this person is guilty. | ||
| I think they do. | ||
| But also, the judge instructs the jury not to bother with the question of Alex's guilt or innocence because this is a damages trial. | ||
| He had every right to participate in the initial trial where he could have mounted a defense and the judge absolutely could not have said that kind of thing, but he chose not to participate, knowing that if he did, he would just lose faster. | ||
| No one's claiming that Alex didn't turn over anything. | ||
| He did turn over a bunch of stuff, like a 100-plus page professional background check on Lenny Posner that no one at Infowars can explain. | ||
| Where did this come from? | ||
| No one knows. | ||
| No one knows! | ||
| Alex is creating this straw man that he's being accused of not turning over anything because it's super easy to defeat. | ||
| All you have to do is show that he turned over something, and just like that, Alex has proven that the court is lying about him. | ||
| framing devices of the situation because if his audience sought out any other source of information, his entire argument about what's happened would look pathetically silly. | ||
| The last thing he wants is for them to understand how much of an active participant he's been in getting himself defaulted because it raises so many questions about why would you do that. | ||
| And the only real conclusion is because-You're guilty as shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
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| I mean- For someone who talks so much shit about the amendments that he doesn't understand and cannot read, you know, I was thinking about that idea of, like, you should have the right to face your accuser, you know? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| You should. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And sometimes, and maybe only, maybe this is the only time it's ever happened, but the accuser should have the right to face the accused. | ||
| Do you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Especially when they're already fucking guilty! | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So he should have been in there whenever Neil was there. | ||
| Neil should have been able to look him in the eye and tell him the truth the same way that Scarlet did. | ||
| It's an act of rank cowardice to claim your space and be there and run your mouth and say a bunch of bullshit while Neil's got to listen to you and not pay the same courtesy and respect. | ||
| I would argue it is an if not Actual but implied violation of the Bill of Rights. | ||
| Um... | ||
| Look, I'm no scholar. | ||
| Me neither. | ||
| I think that's clear. | ||
| I do think that another thing you'd want to do, I mean, I think you should be there to pay respect, or at least give the appearance of respect for that. | ||
| But another thing I think you shouldn't do is maybe talk rampant shit about the judge in your case. | ||
| Oh, I doubt he did that. | ||
| No, he probably didn't. | ||
| No, he wouldn't do that. | ||
| Even in third world dictatorships, when they have kangaroo courts, they don't have the judge tell the jury, this person is guilty. | ||
| But she says up there, it's a special case. | ||
| Sure is. | ||
| And they're all caricatures of what you would imagine in some alternate universe of dwarf goblins. | ||
| It's demonic. | ||
| They all act demonically possessed. | ||
| The judge, the lawyers, it's surreal to be around them. | ||
| And it makes you feel sorry for them because these people are committed to a cult ideology of the New World Order. | ||
| And they're never going to stop. | ||
| They're getting rid of all the checks and balances, all of our basic freedoms. | ||
| They've gutted the border. | ||
| They're promoting pedophilia everywhere. | ||
| They are just annihilating the social contract. | ||
| They are destroying our country by design. | ||
| They have been turned loose. | ||
| When I talk about... | ||
| They, I mean, the general crazed mob of the left. | ||
| I thought you were talking about the judge. | ||
| He specifically was talking about the judge. | ||
| But now it's the mob of the left. | ||
| The general mob of the left. | ||
| What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| If I understand correctly, what we're trying to say is that if I said... | ||
| Dan, you're a giant piece of shit that I hope gets lit on fire, and the Dan that I'm talking about is everybody, then you wouldn't at all think that perhaps I was talking about you, correct? | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| You would know that I was talking about everybody in general. | ||
| I'd have a hunch. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, I have not checked up with my man Gygax, but is a dwarf goblin? | ||
| Is that in there? | ||
| Is that in the monster manual? | ||
| A dwarf goblin? | ||
| I don't believe so. | ||
| I do not believe so. | ||
| I believe you can be... | ||
| I don't even know if you can be a mixed race dwarf goblin. | ||
| I think there's dwarf orcs. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Is it an evolutionary thing? | ||
| If you're too far away on the genetic chain, you can't... | ||
| Look, if that's the case, then I would say that Alex needs to get right with this and start calling people like, this judge is up there like the beholder. | ||
| This judge is like a half-elf dwarf-meaning monster. | ||
| The plaintiff's attorney is a gelatinous cube. | ||
| What's the name of the ones that are devils in the monster manual? | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| I can't remember. | ||
| I don't know enough of these. | ||
| I'm the one who DM'd! | ||
| I should know. | ||
| You should. | ||
| So Alex has decided he's going to do the first hour, and then he's heading to court. | ||
| Smart. | ||
| I'm hosting this hour, and then I'm going to get in the car and drive down to the Temple of Justice. | ||
| Or the Temple of Injustice when you get the establishment judges to testify today in the show trial where the judge again this morning said, because I've got the Twitter alerts from the different courthouse news agencies to the jury, it's a decided issue. | ||
| He is guilty. | ||
| Remember that. | ||
| He's guilty. | ||
| You just decide whether you give him $150 million because he questioned the shooting or $50 million. | ||
| She didn't say that part, but that's what they've been asking for, which is a complete and total joke. | ||
| It's a damages hearing. | ||
| I still do not understand what you are trying to explain to me, Dan. | ||
| I've been in court now seven days, or at least I haven't been in court, but I've watched a trial for seven full days, a damages trial, and I have not seen one full acknowledgement from the defense. | ||
| That they have lost the trial already. | ||
| Yeah, and I mean, it's an act of mass gaslighting of his audience. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There is just an attempt to pretend you don't understand the situation, because if the audience did understand the situation better, it raises questions, and they are questions that Alex can only answer by, well, I'm stupid, or... | ||
| I torpedoed my own ability to defend myself, knowing that I would be incompetent and unable to defend myself, given the opportunity. | ||
| And that would be more humiliating than the situation we're in now, where I can just gaslight the shit out of you all, and you'll still give me money. | ||
| Right. | ||
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So I think that... | |
| I mean, I understand why he's taking this approach. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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It's basically all he's got. | |
| It's just sad. | ||
| I mean, what's so ironic about it is that essentially what he's done is he's hired a... | ||
| I mean, in his world, a high-powered Democrat lawyer appointed by Eric Holder to stonewall a trial and, I guess, force a mistrial in order to delay even longer so he can just keep maybe trying... | ||
| To hide money. | ||
| Well, it's fun that, you know, you have a... | ||
| I know that sounds like a conspiracy theory, but that's what Mark said in court! | ||
| Yeah, the high-powered Democratic lawyer who was hired by Eric Holder, who we should also say is a man of treason at the highest order for Fast and Furious and being involved with Obama and all this, so that probably... | ||
| Alex should examine that. | ||
| I would think about it. | ||
| Also, you got this high-powered Democratic lawyer hired by Eric Holder who's fighting the globalists for Alex. | ||
| What? | ||
| What's going on here? | ||
| Can you imagine if Mark tomorrow just looks at him and is like, okay, you say it's the Democratic Party that's out to get you. | ||
| You know your lawyer was appointed by Eric Holder, right? | ||
| Or I would ease into that and just be like, Alex, what do you think about Eric Holder? | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| That's a way better way to do it. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| See if you can blindside it. | ||
| That would be amazing. | ||
| So Alex sees himself in a particular way in this trial and the circumstances that he finds himself in. | ||
| And naturally, they're from a movie. | ||
| So this is beyond the movie Gladiator where they tie up the top gladiator and stab him in the heart before they send him out on the Coliseum floor to fight. | ||
| Good explanation of that movie. | ||
| It would take five, ten minutes for him to die. | ||
| A little quick stab to the heart, and now he will fight you. | ||
| Well, this is more like stab 15 times in the heart, tie it up with a lion on top of your head biting you, and then they come out. | ||
| And say, now let's have our gladiatorial event. | ||
| And the judge is primping and they've got an HBO camera where they're all mic'd up and they're... | ||
| And they've got dozens of cameras in there and then they go, this man got famous off Sandy Hook. | ||
| This man made hundreds of millions off of it. | ||
| This man tortured these innocent people for ten years. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| And then finally, they testify and their psychologists testify. | ||
| And Heslin and his ex-wife hadn't even heard of me until years and years after. | ||
| Neil and Scarlett didn't need to be aware of Alex himself to have experienced the effects of his actions. | ||
| Even if Alex were portraying the situation honestly, what he's saying doesn't in any way invalidate their position. | ||
| This is another straw man because Alex can't really address the case on its merits. | ||
| If he did, he would have to reveal that he isn't a gladiator who was stabbed to soften him up for the big showdown that he would win easily otherwise. | ||
| It's more similar to a gladiator who was politely asked to show up for their showdown for years, who instead decided to not show up, not have their fight, but instead spent hours and hours ranting publicly about how he was going to win that fight. | ||
| I mean, to his argument directly, though, which is absurd... | ||
| Is essentially like, okay, say I'm the strongest man in the world and I can throw a javelin from Texas to Connecticut. | ||
| If I hit somebody in the leg and they don't know it's me, how is it my fault? | ||
| There's a million ways you could formulate a rebuttal to that stupid logic that he's using. | ||
| Yeah, but I like the javelin one. | ||
| I mean, it's evocative. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| There's an image that you see. | ||
| I'm an image guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're a painter of words. | ||
| That is what I've been told. | ||
| So here we go, Alex, getting shitty. | ||
| And the media brought in the clip of Owen talking about Heslin on... | ||
| Megyn Kelly to make him mad and to sue me. | ||
| That all came out in court. | ||
| So, again, it's all these lawyers and all these Democrats and all these operatives going out to the families and then trying to recruit them to sue me. | ||
| And, you know, there's a name for that and you can get disbarred for it and that's being investigated right now. | ||
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| Okay. | ||
| It's just insane to watch this, and I'm not going to talk about it much more. | ||
| He is. | ||
| Alex is attempting to deprive Mr. Heslin of having any agency here. | ||
| The goal is to make sure the audience accepts the idea that the lawsuit isn't something that's an organic decision Heslin would have and did make. | ||
| It's something that he's being put up to by the media and these lawyers. | ||
| Alex is doing this in order to appear like less of a monster because it's easy to play like you're the good guy when you yell at a nefarious lawyer plot than it is when you attack a guy whose son was murdered You already lied about him a bunch. | ||
| You may notice that Alex is going a little bit harder towards discrediting Neil, and there's a reason for that, and that's that Alex knows that as far as the material he's produced, he's not said Scarlett's name on air, and so their legal complaints are different. | ||
| He has a defamation case from Neil, but an intentional infliction of emotional distress case from Scarlett. | ||
| Alex knows that the one where he said the guy's name is a bit more of a clear-cut case where he fucked up. | ||
| So being able to assassinate this character and insist that he wouldn't have even sued if it wasn't under the sway of some globalist lawyer conspiracy against Alex is him attempting to cover up the more serious of his fuck-ups while giving lip service to the other one that he feels is less serious. | ||
| And that he's not saying Scarlett's name and is saying Neil's, or at least is attacking Neil and not Scarlett. | ||
| Kind of more suggests that this is a man who knows that I've already defamed this motherfucker. | ||
| It's probably a good idea to leave it at intentional... | ||
| Damages on the other person so I don't add defamation to her name as well. | ||
| It may be that this is the easiest... | ||
| Like, I've already punched this person. | ||
| I can punch them again. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| What do I have to lose? | ||
| Defame him more? | ||
| Now, I will say that that's a bad strategy. | ||
| It is a bad strategy. | ||
| But at least Alex doesn't continue to call the judge a goblin. | ||
| Judge Goblin here in Austin. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Wow, I would have really not done that. | ||
| And acts like a goblin. | ||
| A very goblin-ish creature. | ||
| I actually finally got to see a real goblin. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Gotta have some fun with it. | ||
| They think themselves so seriously. | ||
| I'm a little goblin-ish, too, so it's okay. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's why I'm so sweet on her. | ||
| But the point is that you gotta have some fun with this. | ||
| She said last Friday when we said, hey, we've declared bankruptcy this afternoon, but we're gonna let this trial go forward. | ||
| We're gonna remand it back on Monday morning. | ||
| She goes, I don't care. | ||
| I'm going to go forward no matter what you do in federal court. | ||
| She can't. | ||
| But they don't care because this is all a giant exercise in raping our freedom and setting the precedent to go after conservatives and populists and patriots. | ||
| And the judge said it. | ||
| No. | ||
| Also, his bankruptcy has no bearing on this case. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, I've been trying to amp my brazenness up about as high as I can possibly put it. | ||
| Yeah, no shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I got nothing on that. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| I just got nothing on that. | ||
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He's got decades of experience. | |
| I just don't. | ||
| I mean, that's the... | ||
| What is that? | ||
| You also don't have people enabling you. | ||
| You have people like me who are like, hey, maybe you should calm down with this shit. | ||
| I do, and I'm grateful for that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I'm not calling the judge a goblet right now. | ||
| 20 years of people just not telling you to shut up. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Calm down. | ||
| Maybe you end up like this. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| So, yeah, it's all just about getting these conservatives and nationalists. | ||
| Alex's whole thing is just part of a larger pattern. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And somebody who's in that pattern is Alex's new friend, former mortal enemy, Steve Bannon. | ||
| Great. | ||
| I mean, just four years ago when they were deplatforming, people said, oh, you're not really being deplatformed. | ||
| You're not really being censored. | ||
| Now it's the former president of the U.S. who had the election stolen from him. | ||
| And now it's all of you. | ||
| And now they're coming with fully weaponized courts. | ||
| Steve Bannon, D.C., in his criminal trial, could not cross-examine the witnesses against him. | ||
| That's like... | ||
| I don't think he wanted to, honestly. | ||
| He was smart. | ||
| Totally illegal, but the Democrats are mad dog crazy. | ||
| They're going for Brooke, folks. | ||
| Stay with us. | ||
| Yeah, that was Bannon's choice. | ||
| Yeah, I think, I mean, after watching the defense's lawyer today question, I mean, Again, brazenness on a scale that I can't comprehend. | ||
| Bannon chose not to defend himself or do any of that. | ||
| Roger chose to mount no defense in his case. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're not being deprived of their right. | ||
| They're choosing to waive it so they can pretend to be victims later. | ||
| Yeah, and so they can not hurt their own case further by victimizing the victims that they are... | ||
| Well, we'll see how that plays out for Alex. | ||
| We will see. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| It could come back to really help him out in the end. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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| So, Alex does talk about some news. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I'm sure everybody's interested in... | ||
| Monkeypox. | ||
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| So, here we go. | ||
| They've been planning, as we've been talking about the last year, to bring back lockdowns, masks, and all the hysteria, either right before or right after the midterms. | ||
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But... | |
| To do that, they've got to start ratcheting up the fear and beating the drum because they use behavioral psychology to incrementally say, okay, now mask indoors again. | ||
| Okay, now only certain businesses are essential. | ||
| Okay, now that's what they're establishing. | ||
| New California Governor Gavin Newsom declares monkeypox a state of emergency. | ||
| Same thing in Europe. | ||
| Same thing in New York. | ||
| It begins. | ||
| Democrats in New York City, Illinois, declare state of emergency over monkeypox. | ||
| NAP has the headline. | ||
| Biden's COVID sequel. | ||
| Back on the balcony and the dog for company. | ||
| And he's announcing all the same stuff that we saw right before the lockdowns we've already witnessed. | ||
| So Alex seems to have interpreted this headline, Biden's COVID sequel, about being like Monkeypox is the sequel to COVID, but it's actually about Biden getting a rebound case of COVID and having to go back into isolation. | ||
| The way Alex is reporting this, and the headline, the way he's using it, is just made up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's taking this headline and then just... | ||
| Making up and lying about what the article is about because he's a lazy liar who just makes things up all the time. | ||
| The word monkeypox doesn't even appear in that article. | ||
| I mean, also, really, I think having a double case of COVID, like, is the best thing for him to riff off of, right? | ||
| Like, Biden has a rebound case of COVID. | ||
| Maybe it's out of control. | ||
| Even the Democrat establishment doesn't have control over the COVID. | ||
| Like, you could spin off of that for a long time if you weren't saying... | ||
| They're trying to make everyone so afraid. | ||
| Exactly, if you weren't saying... | ||
| I would say distracted by some other kind of thing that was taking up all of your attention. | ||
| Even if he had his full attention there, he still wouldn't notice that this isn't about monkeypox because he's a lazy liar. | ||
| You are right. | ||
| Also, if he did know that it was a rebound case of COVID, I would like him to say, who is this, the Charles Barkley of COVID? | ||
| Love it. | ||
| The round mound of COVID? | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Alex, he's talking about this monkeypox chunk. | ||
| Of his show. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And of course, he's boughten in quite heavily into the right-wing narrative and the very dangerous talking point of associating the LGBTQ folk with monkeypox. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| And it being something that is unique to the homosexual community. | ||
| Which we all knew was just a matter of time. | ||
| Yeah, and man, he is going weird with it. | ||
| Better keep your pie holes shut. | ||
| Unless you're getting a bunch of monkeypox sprayed in your mouth. | ||
| Real quick, I'm going to pause this clip for a second. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Some of this is pretty gross. | ||
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| Sorry. | ||
| Just be warned. | ||
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| Here it is. | ||
| Germans will be able to legally change their gender once a year. | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| How about, just like you have a handicap sticker on your car, handicap deal on your visor or your rearview mirror, you can just maybe have like a big light on the top of your head. | ||
| And if it's green, it means you're hetero. | ||
| Or if it's red, it means you're homosexual. | ||
| Or it's got to be hundreds of colors, though. | ||
| This makes sense as a plan. | ||
| Put a lightbulb on your head. | ||
| I mean, don't people have those, like, stickers on their car windows that have, like, dad, mom? | ||
| Child, child, child. | ||
| I mean, maybe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Or like mom, mom, child, child. | ||
| I don't pay a lot of attention to bumper stickers. | ||
| No, I mean on the back of the window, you know those ones? | ||
| I think I know what you're talking about. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But they don't put light bulbs on their head. | ||
| They do not. | ||
| They do not. | ||
| And this is why Alex is a forward thinker. | ||
| That's wise. | ||
| Purple, pink. | ||
| It means you're a pedo. | ||
| That's the color they use to identify. | ||
| I wouldn't do that. | ||
| Or maybe you just have a light bulb placed on the top of your head and you just screw in the color light bulb. | ||
| You want to go out and identify yourself as... | ||
| Again, they're getting rid of all of our basic rights, getting rid of our right to not be surveilled, bringing in a global social credit score, bringing in the carbon taxes, bringing in the you'll own nothing, you'll have nothing. | ||
| Great reset. | ||
| It's all being announced. | ||
| But you can paint your hair green or purple, and you can go eat poop in the street. | ||
| What? | ||
| I mean, yes, you can! | ||
| Don't you believe that's your American right? | ||
| Well, hold on now. | ||
| Oh, sorry. | ||
| I think there's a... | ||
| Slight bit of a discussion difference between painting your hair a certain color and eating poop in the street. | ||
| You know, there are a lot of people who might notice a few distances. | ||
| I think the way you would discuss those things would be slightly different from a health standpoint. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Our existing purple hair color. | ||
| I mean, there's a reason why people have to wash their hands when they work at a restaurant. | ||
| Right, because they might get hair color in their... | ||
| Yeah, E. coli hair color. | ||
| Yeah, so I was pretty surprised by this, because essentially what you have here is Alex is taking a very old, old homophobic kind of smear, disgusting characterization, and that is, oh, you eat poop. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And combining it with the... | ||
| Old Testament Passover concept of how we should move through life. | ||
| Well, yeah, and this is attaching it to the spread of monkeypox. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| These people out in the street with their light bulbs in their head eating poop. | ||
| All I'm saying is that we should go from door to door, find out who's inside, put a mark outside their door, and maybe they have a son tomorrow. | ||
| Maybe they don't. | ||
| It's not me. | ||
| Whatever you do. | ||
| Just be aware, people are eating poop. | ||
| That's what they do at these rallies. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| It happens at all of them. | ||
| We've got the videos. | ||
| Now, pooping and eating poop and peeing on each other. | ||
| This is so liberal, so trendy. | ||
| And then the monkeypox explodes, and it's all our fault. | ||
| We'll have to be locked down now, but don't worry. | ||
| The pedo parade and the poop eating will continue. | ||
| And I'm sorry to have to describe this for you folks, but we're talking turd gobbling, okay? | ||
| Family show, buddy. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Do you remember The Critic? | ||
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Pee, pee, poo, pee, pee. | |
| And then, this is the song of my home country. | ||
| Why is everybody laughing? | ||
| It's fantastic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Good show. | ||
| One of the greatest. | ||
| Good show, The Critic. | ||
| It stinks. | ||
| It's my review of Alex's show. | ||
| True. | ||
| So yeah, apparently Alex is taking up the mantle of some of the more gross, dangerous types of rhetoric now, descending into... | ||
| I mean, obviously he's been on this equating LGBTQ folk with pedophilia for quite a while. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's kind of not new ground for him. | ||
| No. | ||
| But somehow the... | ||
| All of these Pride parades are people eating poop and peeing on each other, and they're spreading monkeypox. | ||
| I just don't see how this goes anywhere good. | ||
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| I think Alex is trying to find out. | ||
| Is it possible to go too ridiculous that even an ardent info-warrior would go, listen, man, nobody's eating poop at the Pride parade. | ||
| No. | ||
| I just gotta say that. | ||
| No. | ||
| It really isn't, is it? | ||
| I do think that there are people in his audience that would be like, yeah, that's what I've kind of always thought. | ||
| I can't believe they're eating poop at the Pride Parade. | ||
| It always looks so fun with all the candy. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| It's because of the liberals. | ||
| They've let it get out of control. | ||
| I always forget it's because of the liberals. | ||
| So we get to the point of this episode where the issue with talking shit about the plaintiffs comes up. | ||
| Yeah, not a good idea. | ||
| And I think that there's an argument to be made that the clip that they played in court was shorter. | ||
| I think it was. | ||
| Now, do I think it matters? | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think it's worse when it's longer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So here's the beginning of that. | ||
| I've segmented it into essentially three parts because otherwise it would be about six minutes or so. | ||
| Ouch. | ||
| But you'll see that each clip ends with where the next one begins. | ||
| So this is all just... | ||
| In order to make sure that we're not getting doctored video out to the people, right? | ||
| It's all straight through where the thought goes and ends. | ||
| We need it to be the full thought. | ||
| So here's the beginning. | ||
| Oh, and I've got to say this. | ||
| I've now met Neil Heslund and his ex-wife. | ||
| Those people are real, once I saw them in person. | ||
| A lot of anomalies. | ||
| The government lies so much. | ||
| They have a right to question things. | ||
| I thought Jussie Smollett was a lie. | ||
| I said it first. | ||
| Went out on a limb. | ||
| I was right. | ||
| Most of the time, I'm right. | ||
| We saw anomalies. | ||
| I wasn't the first to bring up the anomalies. | ||
| Some of the anomalies are going to be a fraud. | ||
| I've spent days, literally... | ||
| Seven feet, eight feet away from Heslin. | ||
| Because we're sitting right there, they're sitting right there. | ||
| That guy's real. | ||
| And I thought it was an act when I saw some of the stuff on TV just because he came off as so... | ||
| Let's just say he's a nice man and it's not an act. | ||
| He is being manipulated by some very bad people. | ||
| I mean, I'll just say it because I've got to be honest. | ||
| He's slow, okay? | ||
| And his ex-wife is not. | ||
| And I don't think he's stupid. | ||
| I'm just saying he's... | ||
| I've got family members that are really smart in a lot of ways, but they're just real kind of quiet and have this way about them, and they move at a different pace. | ||
| Like, they're fast in some ways and slow in others, and he's... | ||
| I mean, I think Hesselman acts like somebody on the spectrum. | ||
| And it makes me feel like an even bigger jerk. | ||
| But when I saw him, I'm like, there's something about this guy. | ||
| This doesn't look... | ||
| And now that I've been around him for over a week, I'm like, okay. | ||
| Now I know. | ||
| Folks, I don't have some calculated point, just to bring that up here. | ||
| It's just that I'm around these people, and I'm looking at it, and I'm watching what's being said and what's going on, and it really then makes it clear what happened. | ||
| I didn't watch a lot of the court yesterday because I was busy getting ready for my own testimony and trying to re-research all the stuff they're going to ask me. | ||
| So the clip that they played in court did not include the part at the beginning where he says that they're real people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think it's irrelevant to the larger point of how the clip was played and why it was played. | ||
| And then the clip ends, the part that ended in court just didn't include those last five seconds. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which I'm really only using there as a hinge to get to the next segment. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I mean, his argument, obviously, is that if I was allowed to play for the jury, that I magnanimously admit the people I'm sitting across from, nearly less than ten feet away, are, in fact, real. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Very proud of myself. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And if the jury had seen that, they would have been like, not only should we award him one dollar, he's innocent! | ||
| And... | ||
| We've hired a second-line band. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| We're having a parade. | ||
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Yes, I'm sorry. | |
| I missed the cantina. | ||
| I went John Philip Sousa. | ||
| And because you did that, I couldn't get into the cantina theme. | ||
| I fucked it up. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| So I was wondering, and somebody who was in the courtroom, and so I didn't see this show live. | ||
| I didn't see all of it. | ||
| And I'm like, well, I believe he probably did. | ||
| You know, express some kind of sorry at some point, right? | ||
| I mean, really? | ||
| Do you? | ||
| Yeah, because that's the argument that he's making. | ||
| You know, there's things that are cut off. | ||
| And so I was like, all right, I'm going to listen to this. | ||
| Let's see where it goes. | ||
| So here's what happens next. | ||
| Trying to re-research all the stuff they're going to ask me. | ||
| And I said I'd get the news. | ||
| I said I'd get the news. | ||
| My lawyers get over here to the office. | ||
| It's like 6 o 'clock to meet with me. | ||
| And they go, guess how the day went? | ||
| And basically, without even watching the trial, I said, this is what happened today, right? | ||
| And they said, yeah, so you've been watching? | ||
| And I said, no. | ||
| I just now have such clear sight into all this stuff that I'm not even a victim of it. | ||
| I'm more like a fly on the wall, and it's fascinating at this point. | ||
| It's just fascinating to see how the scammers work, and to see how the ambulance chasers work, and to see how the Democratic Party works. | ||
| And that's really what the Democratic Party is, is a bunch of ambulance chasers that then get into government who work for the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers, who are just mad scientists, crazed. | ||
| Super branch. | ||
| So the argument that he's laying out is essentially that Neil and Scarlett, but mostly Neil, who he's taking aim at, they are unfortunately have been fooled by these ambulance chasers into doing this lawsuit. | ||
| And now, I mean, I think that there is an element of this that... | ||
| It's dangerously close to the things he's being sued about. | ||
| Yes, there is! | ||
| Because, in essence, at the core of the claims about crisis actors, it is these are people who are filling a role that is deceitful about what is at the core of it. | ||
| There isn't somebody who died, according to this theory, and they are acting as if they are in order to attack the Second Amendment. | ||
| In this case... | ||
| The argument that Alex is putting forward is they don't actually care about what I said. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They don't actually feel defamed. | ||
| The mental anguish that they're describing isn't anything. | ||
| It's either not real or it has nothing to do with me. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Any of this stuff. | ||
| They are people who have been willfully or tricked into acting as if they were in order to be used by these ambulance chasers. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This, to me, seems maybe actionable. | ||
| Movies real quick, Dan. | ||
| Now, as we all know, every time you have an actor in a movie, all of their dialogue is required to be direct quotes from real life. | ||
| Otherwise, every movie would be defamation, right? | ||
| So we know that actors only tell the truth, despite being real people. | ||
| This actor can only tell the truth and this one can only lie. | ||
| He can only tell the truth. | ||
|
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Oh, who do you choose? | |
| Yeah, I understand what Alex is doing here. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I also think that it's maybe the worst idea ever. | ||
| Normally in a defamation trial where you're trying to determine innocence or guilt, then at the time you can then say, these people are only out for money. | ||
| Because if they're only out for money, then maybe I'm innocent of the charges. | ||
| Now here's the twist. | ||
| What's the twist? | ||
| The ambulance chasers are only out for money. | ||
| Right. | ||
| These people are patsies that are being used as pawns in the game against Alex. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Can I hear the original conspiracy theory again? | ||
| It was that these people were being used as pawns in the attack on the Second Amendment. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And Alex. | ||
| And so they were being... | ||
| So they're suing him for saying that they're... | ||
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What? | |
| Well, I mean, at very least, this attempt at depriving Neil and Scarlett of the agency with which they are using to sue him is a means of trying to defang the criticism and the critique. | ||
| And I think, at bottom, At minimum. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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What you are doing is calling into question the experiences and the testimony that they have given in the trial. | |
| Yep. | ||
|
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By painting them as people... | |
| People who... | ||
| I don't even know what his point is with Scarlet, because he's saying that she's really smart and nice. | ||
| He's painting Neil as a dupe, who's been suckered into going along with this, which raises the question, what are you actually saying about Scarlet? | ||
| That she's a willing person who knows what she's doing and going along with this? | ||
| This sucks, and it's not better longer. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| But... | ||
| The appearance that Alex can get out of insisting that it's better if it's longer is basically the exact same game that he plays with all of his clips. | ||
| That's like, you need to watch the whole show. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| That kind of stuff. | ||
| And it's really not better. | ||
| Well, if that's your only excuse to just about any time anybody ever plays a clip, then it's glaring that because we play the entire clips, he does not talk about us. | ||
| That is suspicious. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You were suspicious that Alex wasn't actually going to give an apology in this thing. | ||
| When you bring up what I was suspicious about, I'm interested to see where this goes. | ||
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Well, I think it might be a bus. | |
| It might be a wash. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Might have to... | ||
| Might have to eat my own words? | ||
| No, I think we both lose. | ||
| Neither got blackjack on this one. | ||
| We're just mad scientist-crazed super brains. | ||
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But... | |
| The ambulance chaser Joe Biden types of the world are though like the flypaper that we get caught in. | ||
| They're the curse that the deep state puts on us to sabotage our nation and bring us down. | ||
| And so I can really see how the sausage is getting made. | ||
|
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And. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| If my asking questions about public events hurt these people's feelings, I'm sorry. | ||
| And the most important point is this. | ||
| I didn't knowingly promote Sandy Hook questions for ratings or listeners. | ||
| I cover whatever I want. | ||
| And I barely covered it. | ||
| The Democratic Party, the corporate media, these judges are primping for the cameras. | ||
| They're all over the news. | ||
| They're pushing their anti-free speech agenda. | ||
| And they love... | ||
| Every single second of this stuff. | ||
| They are just living off Sandy Hook and keeping Sandy Hook alive by attaching it to me. | ||
| And then constantly running hundreds of articles a day for years, sometimes thousands, calling me the Sandy Hook man until the point of... | ||
| I'm sitting there talking to a group of people outside the courtroom, and there's some other lawyers there. | ||
| And I'm sitting there, and I go, yeah, they don't think Adam Lanza did it. | ||
| They think I did it. | ||
| And one of these lawyers that's a well-known lawyer, not one of my lawyers, but was there to watch, goes, who's Adam Lanza? | ||
| This is on Friday. | ||
| I'm sorry that your lawyer friend is dumb, but that doesn't mean anything. | ||
| Does your lawyer think you did it? | ||
| Does your lawyer friend think you did it? | ||
| I mean, that is the... | ||
| Just because he doesn't know who Adam Lanz is doesn't mean he thinks, oh, Alex Jones must have been the shooter. | ||
| If I understand correctly... | ||
| Alex Jones walks free out in the world having killed all of these school children and teachers. | ||
| What could his lawyer friend possibly think? | ||
| If his lawyer friend, being a lawyer, would have to know that he's already been found guilty... | ||
| What does the lawyer think if he's like, never heard of this Adam Lanzacat, but I know you're guilty of this trial? | ||
| I think that this person doesn't exist. | ||
| So that is the apology that Alex was so insistent that the plaintiff's attorneys didn't include in the clip, and therefore were trying to mislead the jury with an edited video. | ||
| This was the basis of the fight that Alex and the plaintiff's team got into at the end of the day, and what Alex was talking about outside, and it's a load of shit. | ||
| This isn't an apology. | ||
| This is a statement disguised as an apology. | ||
| In order to accept this apology, you need to accept Alex's framing of what he's apologizing for, and that's not based in reality. | ||
| He's not apologizing for what he actually did. | ||
| He's apologizing if the questioning he did of anomalies around Sandy Hook hurt them. | ||
| That's not a real apology in any way, and I'm entirely certain that the jury would be able to understand that, and the plaintiff's attorneys could easily put that in its proper context. | ||
| You wouldn't want to play this whole clip, though, because it's long, it's stupid, and it really mostly is just Alex whining to his listeners about everyone so mean to him. | ||
| This falls back on the fundamental defense Alex seems to have to offer, which boils down to, I did the thing you want me to have done just a little bit after that clip ended. | ||
| He's essentially appealing to the unknown, the part of the knowledge base that isn't available, in order to undermine the premise of the plaintiff's argument. | ||
| It's pretty dumb, but it's kind of how information works in his world. | ||
| It's kind of like, I mean, I hate to fall back on this a bit, but it's basically what children do. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
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I mean, sometimes... | |
| When I listen to the consistent threads, if there was a poll, you know, we all say, oh, the country's so polar, you know, that whole thing. | ||
| Like, if we got rid of all politics and were just, like, asking people straight up, do you think, if I hurt you, then I'm sorry, is an apology? | ||
| I think we would be able to see 100% exactly where the far right exists. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| Because that's the one thing that I hear from that. | ||
| Nobody says, I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm sorry I hurt you. | ||
| I realize the damage that I've done. | ||
| I'm going to seek to correct it and then no longer continue the behavior. | ||
| I'm going to give the most generous perspective on the if I hurt you, I'm sorry thing. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That is fine if it's a first step. | ||
| Like, if it's a, I don't understand if I hurt you, now let's engage in a process where I understand better how I hurt you. | ||
| I accept that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes, we agree. | ||
| But that's never what this is. | ||
| Never! | ||
| No. | ||
| Not one time! | ||
| But it's what that apology wants to appear to be. | ||
| It's what people want to look at and they want to hear you say the word sorry and then forget all the rest of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's what Alex wants credit for. | ||
| And it's disgraceful. | ||
| Disgusting. | ||
| And it's only made worse by where we all know where this is going. | ||
| And here's the end of this clip. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| This is on Friday. | ||
| Who is Adam Lanza? | ||
| And we all just looked at him. | ||
| We're like, exactly. | ||
| Who's Adam Lanza? | ||
| You don't think Adam Lanza when you think Sandy Hook. | ||
| You think Alex Jones. | ||
| And that's what they've put on me and made me and then claim I'm famous from it and claim I'm making money off of it. | ||
| When our listeners don't want to hear about it, they tune out. | ||
| But you have to understand, the precedent they're setting on January 6th is designed to come after your freedom. | ||
| The precedent happening to me is designed to come after your freedom. | ||
| This is the beta test, and this is what they're doing. | ||
| I'm going to stop ranting. | ||
| I need to hit the energy news. | ||
| Too late! | ||
| The military news, the stuff going on with Pelosi. | ||
| I'll give you my take on that. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| And so much more. | ||
| And then we're going to have Robert Barnes, Owen Schroyer, and others here in studio. | ||
| I also hope listeners understand that Infowars really is fighting for its life. | ||
| And we have a plan and a system where we'll be able to stay on the air indefinitely if you will just continue to support. | ||
| But we need folks that want to not let the globalists break our will, break your will, and keep this operation on air. | ||
| Go to Infowarsstore.com right now. | ||
| Yeah, that ends with an appeal plug. | ||
| Give me money. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, I mean, I guess all of that, if Alex wants all of that to be played in court, I don't think it helps him. | ||
| I think that makes him look way worse. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But again, it's that thing. | ||
| It's the... | ||
| Uncertainty of what else is there that Alex can play with. | ||
| That unformed space that he can mold into being whatever he wants it to be. | ||
| And it's an abusive tactic. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| Because he knows what he said. | ||
| He knows that there isn't things that were completely missed by the edit of the video that was played in court. | ||
| It's abuse. | ||
| It's abusive. | ||
| You know, it is one of those things where I keep thinking about this during the trial, especially while listening to the full clips, you know? | ||
| If we were in the jury, you and I would catch all of the lies and shit, right? | ||
| Instantly, one at a time. | ||
| That's why we shouldn't be in the jury, though. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But my point is... | ||
| If I were in the jury and I was the lawyer for me in the jury, then I would play that whole clip and I would be like, here's where he goes into that sales pitch. | ||
| Do you remember on the stand whenever he suddenly started telling you about his pills for some reason? | ||
| Oh yeah, that did happen earlier today. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| He did a sales pitch on stand. | ||
| That's the kind of thing that you could pull in there. | ||
| But if you were to play an entire six-minute clip of Alex to a regular human people jury, How is it possible for you to get them to... | ||
| Your eyes would glaze over. | ||
| Absolutely! | ||
| You'd be like, I genuinely don't know what he just said. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He is skipping around. | ||
| There's so many things he's saying. | ||
| It's a word barrage. | ||
| The only thing I think of is that... | ||
| The juror who put his pad down. | ||
| You know, like, it's that. | ||
| It's, I can't keep... | ||
| 100%. | ||
| There's no point in trying to make sense of this. | ||
| Goddamn, what a moment of... | ||
| That's a moment that'll live forever, you know? | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| So Alex has got to get to some news. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Why? | ||
| He promised to talk about Pelosi. | ||
| She's in Taiwan, I heard. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| What a big deal. | ||
| Well, it's kind of hard for Alex to talk about. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because, well, you'll see. | ||
| The Drudge Report has the headline, One Giant Step for Freedom. | ||
| Pelosi in Taiwan. | ||
| I don't like Pelosi. | ||
| And the woman is a total joke. | ||
| And obviously been on the Chinese payroll for decades. | ||
| The Communist Chinese payroll. | ||
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What? | |
| How? | ||
| Explain that. | ||
| Her move of going to Taiwan and standing up to the Communist Chinese is obviously a stunt she's doing. | ||
| Probably ahead of Biden stepping down and her becoming president. | ||
| She's directly in line. | ||
| This makes sense. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| You're just lazy. | ||
| Listen, buddy. | ||
| Nancy Pelosi is a decades-long communist agent working for China, but also she's going to Taiwan. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And this is not something that China likes. | ||
| So we have to make sense of this. | ||
| And so what it is, is it's a stunt because Biden's going to step down, and then something's going to happen to Kamala Harris. | ||
| We don't need to worry about that. | ||
| Just let that one go. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And then Pelosi's going to be president and then be able to help China crush Taiwan, I guess? | ||
| I mean... | ||
| It's all a stunt in order to rationalize her ascent to power so she can be an even better agent for communist China. | ||
| It makes sense. | ||
| You know, when you put it that way... | ||
| I really can't argue with you. | ||
| I think you mean you don't want to. | ||
| Well, there is a distinguishment between the two of them, yes. | ||
| So Alex is about to dismount, and he makes a bad prediction, and that is that he's going to do his full... | ||
| Then he's going to go down in the rankings, Dan! | ||
| Oh, that's true, the talk show rankings. | ||
| His prediction is that he's going to do his whole show tomorrow. | ||
| He is not. | ||
| No. | ||
| He is going to be in court. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I intend to be here for the full show tomorrow. | ||
| I'm sorry I happen to be in court. | ||
| They're trying to get me up there for months in Connecticut. | ||
| That's why we did the bankruptcy, because we don't have the money to do three trials at once, and because I've got to be on air or we don't bring the funds in. | ||
| And just separately, I'm almost resigned to all of this because we're now inside the new world order. | ||
| Things are going to get so much progressively worse from here on out that... | ||
| I'm not going to hang up my hat. | ||
| They're trying to make me stop because they know our credibility is exploding. | ||
| But just at an instinctive level, I just want to go get my family ready. | ||
| I enjoy talking to you every day. | ||
| I enjoy being here. | ||
| I love the crew. | ||
| And I can't give up. | ||
| I won't give up. | ||
| I pledge not to. | ||
| But the time's coming, folks, when we're going to all be off the air. | ||
| They're going to launch a cyber attack. | ||
| Say Russia did it. | ||
| There's probably going to be a nuclear war, okay? | ||
| So, I mean, I really believe that. | ||
| And I'm wrong sometimes. | ||
| I think in your gut, you know too, we are in trouble. | ||
| We're all in grave danger. | ||
| I'm getting massive chills right now. | ||
| Dan, I'm going to ask you a quick question. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just real quick. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| When Alex is receiving $8 million in Bitcoin, are we about to have a nuclear war? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| When Alex is about to lose all of everything, are we about to have a nuclear war? | ||
| And he's getting chills talking about it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, I mean, I don't know. | ||
| Go fucking prepare your family. | ||
| Write a newsletter, you dick. | ||
| Get a substech. | ||
| That works for a lot of people. | ||
| Hard copies. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| He's got to get a printing press. | ||
| He's got to go back to the beginning, the early days. | ||
| Something that the globalists can't fuck with. | ||
| He needs settable type. | ||
| He needs to be sitting out there hand-making a zine or something like that. | ||
| You know, his defense lawyer today was like, hey, listen, you need to tell us about your time coming up. | ||
| About how you turned yourself from nobody into a man with almost 50 employees. | ||
| Suspicious in the absence of any of that storytelling is Ted Anderson and his gold. | ||
| And my dad bought me a show. | ||
| Right. | ||
| All of this does not help with the myth that is trying to be perpetuated. | ||
| Now I think that if Alex is going to start this zine... | ||
| That I'm imagining that is globalist proof. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He also is going to need to make his own paper. | ||
| So he's going to need some lumber. | ||
| He's going to need some land where he can grow trees and pulp some trees. | ||
| Isn't papyrus a lot easier in terms of what kind of tree? | ||
| You don't want to waste too many trees. | ||
| Look, man, I'm not an expert in these things. | ||
| You've got to get your shit together. | ||
| He's going to have to learn. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| That's on me. | ||
| My bad. | ||
| I don't believe the dumb shit he's saying. | ||
| He's the one who needs to start the zine out in the woods so the globalists can't stop him. | ||
| That does make sense. | ||
| But yeah, we have one last clip here. | ||
| Alex finishes the hour, comes back for a little bit, and starts rambling about how Bill Maher wants to depopulate the planet. | ||
| And I was like... | ||
| I heard that in court today! | ||
| Yeah, but I was like, you said that he was a secret patriot like a month or two ago. | ||
| A month or two ago. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| So anyway, here's the last clip. | ||
| There's different types of bankruptcy, but the type of bankruptcy we're in is a reorganization to keep Infowars going. | ||
| And there is a plan and a very easy projection of being able to do that and not laying people off and not cutting back a bunch of stuff and staying on air and not letting the New York Times have what it wants with this headline. | ||
| Can Alex Jones be shut down by the Sandy Hook lawsuits? | ||
| And they say that's their goal, is to shut me down. | ||
| They're all there saying that. | ||
| And bankruptcy protection is there for companies that people are trying to destroy. | ||
| And that's what this is. | ||
| And they said that's what this is. | ||
| Is that what they're there for? | ||
| Well, I will assure these people that if you hadn't messed with me and all the other persecution of my other groups out there that's far worse than this, I was already planning six years ago to be phased out and off air by now, maybe doing a podcast and writing a book and making films. | ||
| I've been doing talk radio 28 years. | ||
| I enjoy it at certain levels, but it's time for a change. | ||
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Now, you're trying to make me go away? | |
| No. | ||
| Never now. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Folks have got my commitment, but they could still win. | ||
| If we don't get the funds we need. | ||
| So help us stay in the fight. | ||
| Keep yourself in the fight. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Keep us on the front lines. | ||
| We can't do it without your help. | ||
| Go to InfowarStore.com right now. | ||
| How about you go fuck yourself? | ||
| That is... | ||
| That is a... | ||
| An almost... | ||
| Like... | ||
| It has gone through to the other side to become a heroic belief in that if I get this money... | ||
| It will not go directly to the family. | ||
| If I get this money, everything will be fine. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| That is the most delusional... | ||
| I would honestly, if I was in his situation, be actively telling people, if you don't want Neil and Scarlett to have money, give it to anybody else. | ||
| Yeah, give it to one of my other newly founded companies that probably exist somewhere. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So I think another thing I'd like to highlight in that clip is if I were Alex and the circumstance that I'm in right now, I don't think that I would say if you hadn't messed with me, | ||
| I would have quit long ago in this hour of his show where he's Preoccupied with melding Scarlett and Neil with the Democrat conspiracy ambulance chaser nonsense that he's going off in. | ||
| Because I think it's pretty easy to hear that and say, Neil and Scarlett, if you hadn't messed with me, I would have quit long ago. | ||
| No, I don't think there's any way to hear it that. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| I mean, with the part where he says it, yeah, that would make me hear it like that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But what if I... | ||
| What if you told me you didn't say it? | ||
| Then... | ||
| Then I wouldn't have any idea. | ||
| Ah, shit. | ||
| Shit, you're out of control. | ||
| So, Jordan. | ||
| Yes, Dan. | ||
| Bad times. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| Yeah, I think this is ill-advised, but what isn't ill-advised is the way Alex was playing it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, the, like... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If only people had seen all of it, they'd see X, Y, or Z. It creates a distraction from the actual topic. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And I do appreciate that I don't feel like the judge and the court had much patience for that. | ||
| I don't think that it played. | ||
| And I think the clip that we played of him talking to people outside, I don't think they were putting up with it very much. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| In a way that Alex maybe in the past was more able to steamroll media, I don't think, I didn't get the sense of much of that tolerance being there, and I think that's a positive thing. | ||
| Yeah, you know, I mean, to that point, to that point especially, like, when we were at the end of the trial today, I didn't have any problem rushing out of there. | ||
| Immediately after the judge did. | ||
| In fact, beyond how horrific a treatment it is of Neil and Scarlett, his behavior after the trial to me is less important than what the judge said right before the end of the day, which is that she basically agreed to Mark's instructions for the jury. | ||
| So tomorrow morning, the judge... | ||
| Without Alex on the stand, we'll say directly to the jury, Alex is guilty of this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex is not broke. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex has plenty of money. | ||
| Yeah, and to the extent that the defense is trying to push things in that direction or imply those things, you're to disregard any of that. | ||
| It is going to be, you know, like... | ||
| In a law show and all of that stuff, because this is what it's becoming. | ||
| That's what Alex is trying to turn this into, is a TV show. | ||
| Unsuccessfully, too. | ||
| Really unsuccessfully. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because the judge isn't going to have it, you know? | ||
| But this is the moment in a movie trial where the judge... | ||
| Outside of like, ooh, this lawyer's a character and that lawyer's a character and these lawyers are representing people and the people have a vested interest in all this stuff. | ||
| When the judge says to the jury, this guy is fucking guilty and you have to know that. | ||
| There's no lawyers arguing. | ||
| There's no ambulance chaser at all. | ||
| This shit is real. | ||
| It's going to be intense. | ||
| Alex was fishing for, I'll let you go. | ||
| Let's see where you're going with this. | ||
| 100%! | ||
| And he got a shut up. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And that's a positive sign. | ||
| It was good times. | ||
| So I will, I don't know. | ||
| It's going to be a day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It'll be a day. | ||
| It'll be a day and a half. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And it's already... | ||
| And then we're gonna fly home! | ||
| It's past midnight here. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So, let's wrap this up. | ||
| Let's wrap it up. | ||
| Go to bed and... | ||
| Please. | ||
| See what the fuck goes on. | ||
| Tomorrow happens. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Happens tomorrow. | ||
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Woo! | |
| Anyway, we'll be back from Chicago. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| But until then, Jordan, we have a website. | ||
| It's not in Chicago. | ||
| It's online. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| We are also on Twitter in Chicago. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I hope you all have a wonderful, dreamy, creamy summer updates coming on ice creams that I've been eating. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Been busy here in the ATX. | ||
| But I've been eating ice creams. | ||
| Don't you worry. | ||
| Don't you worry. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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