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July 8, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
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#700: July 6, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan forget that it's their 700th episode, so they just do a normal show, covering a day where Alex is in a great mood because the Georgia Guidestones had been bombed the night before. Citations Dreamy Creamy Summer Fundraiser

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alex jones
12:42
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dan friesen
41:26
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jordan holmes
19:57
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marjorie taylor greene
02:33
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pastor david manning
00:02
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steve quayle
00:02
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andy in kansas
00:02
mike in florida
00:15
owl killer in virginia
00:10
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alex jones
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
andy in kansas
I love your world.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fed.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
Dan, quick question.
dan friesen
Jordan?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is on Wednesday of this week.
An episode came out that I was on of a friend, Lisa Traeger's podcast, Enemies.
It was very nice to have a chat with her.
It's been a while since we've gotten to sit down and talk for a bit.
And yes, you wanted to have me talk about my mortal enemy, Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
Naturally.
Naturally.
dan friesen
So yeah, it's a lot of fun.
It was great to chat.
jordan holmes
That's great.
I love Lisa.
And yeah, I didn't know it had come out.
dan friesen
I will be listening to it soon.
Very funny comedian.
jordan holmes
Incredibly talented.
dan friesen
Yeah.
We talk a little bit about how we met.
I don't know if we met, but the first time I remember ever seeing her was at a place called Jack's Law.
Yeah.
So you reminisce a little bit about that.
Good times.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think the funniest thing about her for me is that it is weird to see somebody that you know is a small-time comedian coming up in Chicago, and you look up to her, and then a few years later, she's in a Bernie commercial as the asshole.
It's kind of fantastic.
dan friesen
Yeah, that was an unfortunate week.
jordan holmes
That was a funny day.
That was a funny day.
dan friesen
One of the things to spoil, we talk a little bit about the New York Times article about us, and there is an undue amount of attention paid on where we went to eat with the reporter when she came to town.
So it's delightful, a lot of fun.
Anyway, what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is a bit of a twilight spot.
The bright spot is my partner.
She is going on a retreat for the next three weeks.
dan friesen
Ropes course, trust exercises.
jordan holmes
On Saturday, doing art.
Getting together with artists, grown-ups, adults.
dan friesen
Doing some toad in the woods and painting.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
That better be what...
If she doesn't come back with toad on her licks.
Licks.
On her licks, yeah.
No, and that's very cool, but she's going to be gone for a few weeks, and this is the first time we've been apart for like...
unidentified
Years.
jordan holmes
So it's really interesting.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're going to go nuts.
jordan holmes
It'll be good for both of us.
It'll be good for both of us, and it's terrifying for me.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're going to lose your shit.
jordan holmes
It's not going to be good for me.
It's going to be great for her.
dan friesen
It's not going to be good for me.
Well, I'm around, so obviously we can hang a little.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
You can move in.
dan friesen
My pops will love it.
I can't do that.
I still have to finish rearranging all this furniture in my apartment.
It is a gradual process.
jordan holmes
I applied for wellness checks.
He's just going to come by with a little souffle every couple of days, make sure I eat.
dan friesen
I'll do a wellness check, but it'll be binoculars outside your place.
I'll just peek in through the window.
jordan holmes
Is there any blood?
Yeah, and then we're fine.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about July 6th, 2022, which is the Wednesday episode from this week.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
Big news.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Big news happened.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so we've got to talk about it.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
Trump declared his candidacy, right?
dan friesen
Nope.
That didn't happen on the 4th, and it still has not happened yet as of time of recording.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
But there was some big news.
And we'll get to it.
But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Spencer, Ali, and Bayer, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, that Elmo robbery was awesome, wasn't it?
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
alex jones
Thank you!
dan friesen
Next, the name Alex itself is a red flag.
Never met one who didn't do me dirty.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Next, I heard you and Jordan on Behind the Bastards about the rich eating Christianity and needed more of Jordan in my life.
Jordan, don't stop screeching.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you!
Next, thank you very much.
You are now...
Thank you for...
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
Trip me up.
jordan holmes
You're in trouble.
dan friesen
Thank you very much.
You are now a policy wonk.
Thank you very much.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And finally we've got a technocrat in the mix.
So thank you so much to Anders from Sweden.
Says death awaits you all with nasty big pointy teeth.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you, Anders.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, like I said, big news.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Do you know what I'm talking about?
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
Okay.
Well, here is what we're talking about.
alex jones
Breaking live now.
dan friesen
It's not that Alex started with the endgame.
jordan holmes
Is that the big news?
dan friesen
No, it's not.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
In a suburb of Atlanta, Georgia, the Georgia Guidestones have blown sky high with at least a third of the satanic structure destroyed by high explosives.
I don't support the left when they pull down monuments because I see monuments and pieces of history.
And I will say that...
At an animal level, I like seeing this edifice to depopulation of world government bombed to bring attention to it.
I do not agree with whoever did it because we need that evil edifice there.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
As a confession letter by a consortium of eugenicis led by Ted Turner.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
He wrote down the street on his grandmother's farm.
We needed to be there to expose their plan to forcibly reduce the world population down to 50%.
dan friesen
So this is dumb.
The Guidestones don't need to be standing for people to remember that they did exist and to keep a record of what was on them.
jordan holmes
We have TVs.
dan friesen
If I were Alex, I also wouldn't be thrilled that someone bombed them, but for a completely different reason.
According to Alex and his whole conspiracy world lore, these are super important as a monument for the globalists who built them specifically where they are so they would survive the coming cataclysm.
These were meant to be a guide for the post-apocalypse collapse people who need to rebuild society.
in essence, distilling down the lessons that we learned and weren't able to put in practice before we destroyed ourselves.
Right.
unidentified
Given that this is the point of these stones, it stands to reason that if someone were to bomb them, it would really provoke a response from the globalists.
dan friesen
This would be no small matter for them.
And when there is no swift, devastating counter move, it's going to look really suspicious, like no one can't.
jordan holmes
It really is going to be, like, I mean...
It's fantastic, the idea of the conviction of the person who bombed the Georgia guys.
Like, somebody who really, really believed.
And took it to the logical endpoint of that belief.
Like, if it's Satan's shit, you should bomb it!
dan friesen
Why not?
jordan holmes
It's literally Satan!
dan friesen
But on the other hand, they're just carved stone.
It really wouldn't be that difficult to replace them.
jordan holmes
Right, but so he's just gonna wake up the next day and everybody's gonna be like, whoa, that was interesting.
dan friesen
Yeah, they're back.
jordan holmes
And nobody cares.
dan friesen
So one of the big mysteries surrounding the Guidestones is about who paid to have them built in the first place, but that wouldn't even be an issue for their rebuilding.
The person who had them built, using the pseudonym RC Christian, gave the monument to Elbert County, and since then, it's become a massive tourist attraction.
The motive for the county itself to rebuild them is pretty clear, given that the bombing of the Guidestones essentially would be eliminating a thing that brought a bunch of commerce...
Yeah, not much going on there, but the Georgia Guidestones at this point.
Yeah.
My feeling on this is a little bit mixed.
On the one hand, I definitely don't care about the Georgia Guidestones.
I think it's a very interesting thing that they were created and that Christian managed to keep his real identity obscured through the whole process.
Although Alex and the conspiracy community have decided that they've proved that it's Ted Turner.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Property damage as a political statement is not really something that I have much of a problem with generally.
In this case, I think the political statement that's being made is hollow and meaningless, but I appreciate that humans weren't targeted in this one.
I guess we got that to say for it.
jordan holmes
Can't go wrong there.
dan friesen
That gets to where I think that we have my feelings getting a little mixed up.
I don't necessarily have a problem with property damage, but I do think that this could be a scary harbinger of what's to come.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The celebration that's been seen in the conspiracy communities after this bombing could easily translate to attacks being carried out on other imaginary globalist monuments and institutions, and I think a lot of those things wouldn't just be property damage.
So I guess my take is that it sucks that Elbert County residents are probably going to have their businesses hurt by the decreased traffic into town, but outside of that, I could take or leave the Guidestones.
I worry about what this could lead to, as it feels like it could embolden the type of folks who want to carry out domestic terrorism against imaginary enemies, but...
Overall, I just feel like it's really sad to see adults acting like this means anything beyond somebody blowing up a tourist attraction.
Giving this some kind of spiritual importance is really embarrassing, and I feel really bummed out seeing adults do that.
jordan holmes
You know, in the Pacific Northwest, there's a giant Paul Bunyan.
You know, huge!
Because of the story of Paul Bunyan.
He was a big guy.
Big ox.
You know?
That whole thing.
This is like if somebody blew up Paul Bunyan, because they were like, if that dude comes back, he is going to lay waste to this land.
He's too tall.
So we've got to take his knees out right now.
Equivalent in make-sensory.
dan friesen
He's going to sick babe on us.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
We don't even know what it is.
And also, it's an endangered species.
So we can't fight back against that.
We have to let it roam.
But Paul, we can take him down.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's like blowing up the world's largest pecan.
unidentified
Absolutely!
jordan holmes
Yes!
dan friesen
To me, it's like a roadside attraction.
jordan holmes
All you have done is removed one billboard a mile further down the way.
dan friesen
I mean, it's shitty, and I don't think you should trivialize bombing, necessarily.
jordan holmes
No, of course!
dan friesen
And even, like, I think that I might have some misgivings about, like, bombing a Confederate statue or something.
Just because I think bombings generally are, they can be a little unpredictable.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I'm not a bomb guy, so I don't know anything about bombs, but from What I've seen on everything.
dan friesen
Somebody tearing down a statue feels a little different than bombing something.
jordan holmes
Here's what I say.
I say we can bomb any monument so long as it is moved to the Mythbusters lot first, and they are the only people allowed to handle it.
dan friesen
If there's some safety.
jordan holmes
Absolutely, yeah.
Because it'll be fun to watch.
dan friesen
So Alex has some details about this bombing that are not correct.
alex jones
And if you're a TV viewer, you can see...
That the Georgia Guidestones English portion has been blown up.
It repeats it in what?
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 different languages.
Sanskrit, English, Japanese, the list goes on and on.
jordan holmes
Open away from face.
alex jones
Obviously it's an English speaker that is angry.
An American, probably.
dan friesen
So Japanese isn't one of the languages.
But it's interesting to see that Alex makes such a big deal of the idea that the English portion got destroyed.
And that's probably because it's not true.
The guidestones include the same text in multiple languages.
There are four slabs of stone and eight languages.
So they basically have one on each side.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
These languages are English, Russian, traditional Chinese, Arabic, Hebrew, Swahili, Hindi, and Spanish.
Three of the four slabs remained standing after the bombing.
Only one was blown up, and if you look for images of the rubble, it's very clear that the slab that got blown up was the one that had the message written in Hebrew on it.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, I was really, I was almost like, ooh, if it's Russian, maybe that hasn't, nope, Hebrew, shit!
dan friesen
one side and Arabic on the other.
My guess is that Alex is insisting it was the English portion because if he acknowledges the fact that it was actually the slab that had Hebrew and Arabic translations on it, And he'd rather not unpack that.
jordan holmes
That wouldn't be good.
Definitely not in a story with the stakes of the Georgia Guidestones.
Wouldn't be the way he wants to finally confront the fact that everything he does is based on anti-Semitism.
dan friesen
Sure.
And I'm just...
I mean, I don't know if there was any importance to which was blown up.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
I don't know that.
jordan holmes
But if it's the...
I mean, in the world we live in, we don't know.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's suspicious.
jordan holmes
But if it's the Hebrew one, it's automatically suspicious just because of where we are.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it's suspicious that Alex is insisting it's the English one.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
When it's not.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
So anyway, Alex does not really understand these stones.
alex jones
We have the live feed up on Infowars.com from Fox Local.
Bomb unit on scene at Georgia Guidestones partially destroyed.
And they, quote, depopulate the human population.
jordan holmes
Is that what the Guidestones said?
What a weird thing.
alex jones
Here's a digital photo of some of the wreckage there.
And I don't endorse this type of extreme civil disobedience, but I certainly understand whoever did it and what their motives probably were to bring attention to this.
And it's the middle of nowhere, off a side road by cornfields, and it was obviously blown up in the middle of the night.
So whoever did it did it not to harm him in life, and I appreciate.
dan friesen
So he's guessing about the motive.
That's fun.
But we've been over this a bunch of times.
The stones do not say to depopulate the planet down to 500 million people.
The point of the stones are to be a guide to the population that's lived through an end-of-the-world type scenario where humans hit a bottleneck.
This is meant to be advice to a new civilization that arises, at which point the world's population will be less than 500 million.
And the stones are just saying that they should probably shoot for about that level of population to maintain a balance.
I think it's magic disobedience.
jordan holmes
It really does refuse to let magic dominate us in a globalist way.
dan friesen
I think in order for it to be magic disobedience, you'd have to blow it up with a spell.
jordan holmes
We didn't see any debris.
dan friesen
Yeah, we did.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
There's video.
jordan holmes
Well, goddammit.
Okay, fine.
dan friesen
Civil disobedience is something like a sit-in, where you put your body somewhere and refuse to obey with the police telling you to leave, or refusing to cooperate with the police in a totalitarian state.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
What happened in Georgia...
Is a bombing.
That's different.
Even though no one was hurt.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if you blow up a cop car, that is not civil disobedience.
That is blowing up a cop car.
dan friesen
It's a little bit beyond.
jordan holmes
It's a little bit different.
dan friesen
You can discuss whether or not you agree with the reason someone engaged in that action.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Like, I wouldn't have said that the...
Burning of the police station last year.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I wouldn't have said that that was civil disobedience.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
That was taking a step in the right direction.
dan friesen
So, Alex, I gotta say, this is not consistent.
I don't think he's sincere.
But I appreciate that he is at least verbalizing that he doesn't agree with this bombing.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
alex jones
Gut level, this is not the right move to make at this point.
But I do.
Sympathize with the type of thoughts that go into the process of doing this.
What are we going to do when they're killing us through the poison shots, the GMO foods, the electromagnetic radiation, through this cultural satanic attack?
What are we going to do when they've got a monument put up by Ted Turner and the New World Order, who heads up a major eugenics group, got Bill Gates in the population, setting up this announcement of evil?
I would rather have everybody go out there and shoot their own videos and talk about it and expose it.
dan friesen
They do that all the time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, pretty much non-stop.
dan friesen
Constant YouTube videos of people at the Georgia Guidestones being like, look at this evil.
jordan holmes
You can't put something up in March of 1980 and have me believe there's any magic to it.
dan friesen
It's a big part of Alex's, like, it's in Endgame.
jordan holmes
You can't.
dan friesen
It's the beginning of Endgame.
jordan holmes
It went up in the 80s.
Reagan can't be president while magic is happening that is powerful inside stones.
dan friesen
Also, Alex is, like, really going pretty full-on into assuming the motive behind this person.
Yeah.
unidentified
And I think that, you know, you could make an obvious leap to, like, well, there's some problem with the conspiracy theories that surround the Georgia Guidestones.
jordan holmes
I mean, it seems hard to believe that there would be another reason.
dan friesen
Sure, but you...
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
And it could end up being some sort of a neo-Nazi.
jordan holmes
No, what I...
dan friesen
You don't know.
jordan holmes
No, what I...
dan friesen
To say that you sympathize with this person, you're making a pretty big leap that you might not want to make.
Later, that might look bad.
jordan holmes
What I'm hoping for is that this has the wackiest possible outcome.
You know, like, whenever the...
dan friesen
It's the Elvis impersonator.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's the Elvis impersonator with the...
Yeah, that's...
I want that so bad.
I want to find out that this...
unidentified
This has nothing to do with anything other than trying to frame some buddy of his.
dan friesen
Or just someone was in the area and they had a bomb that accidentally lit and they're just juggling it like, oh no, where do I put this?
jordan holmes
It was like a black one with a skull and crossbones on the side and he was like, ah!
dan friesen
It's like Mario with a babam that's gonna go off with a bomb.
jordan holmes
Spun the thing and then it walked away.
dan friesen
So we know one thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is not a false flag.
unidentified
Oh.
alex jones
And I'll tell you this, I don't think it's a false flag.
All these staged events never actually target a globalist institution.
They never actually target the New World Order.
They always target civilians, and then it leads back to the New World Order, the globalists, and their provocateurs.
But if this was a right-wing or a pro-human edifice or a pro-life monument being blown up, it wouldn't even be on the news.
And the left would quietly celebrate it on Facebook.
jordan holmes
Totally.
alex jones
But because this sigil, this obelisk of doom, this occult marking of our population for death, because this ace of spades laid out in that beautiful countryside is a logo or a spiritual center for the Satanists, they are going to go absolutely ape over this.
You can believe it.
dan friesen
Yeah, so it's not a false flag based on the completely meaningless and arbitrary definitions that Alex has had for what is and is not a false flag.
jordan holmes
He's just vibing with it not being a false flag.
dan friesen
This is easier for me to use as a story if it's not a false flag.
unidentified
Yeah, totally.
jordan holmes
It makes more sense.
I mean, I see no way that you can live in the cognitive dissonance of it being this Like, you couldn't have just been like, oh, shit!
Boom!
Jesus is dead.
Solved that fucking problem.
Like, you can't just blow magic up.
There's gotta be rules.
dan friesen
Sure.
And, like, you can't have it be, like, this super important thing to the globalists and have someone blow it up.
jordan holmes
And just blow it up!
dan friesen
And then there'd be no response.
jordan holmes
No, and they're just like...
dan friesen
The world would be over by now if any of Alex's world...
unidentified
Absolutely!
jordan holmes
It's the Georgia Guidestones that are the harbinger of doom!
dan friesen
The entire state of Georgia would be gone.
jordan holmes
Right!
dan friesen
Just to get this guy.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
That would be...
It would be like if...
If we really were in the book of Revelations, people had just been raptured, and somebody just shot the Antichrist, and everybody was like, oh, shit, I didn't know you could just do that.
And then it was over.
dan friesen
Huh.
Damn.
jordan holmes
Wow.
The Bible didn't have guns in it.
Weird.
dan friesen
The guy would not have just been able to drive away.
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
Maybe a lot of Alex's ideology and worldview is dumb.
unidentified
Could be.
dan friesen
So Alex gets real weird.
Because he thinks that this is like, it's not a false flag.
I don't agree with this, but I like seeing it blow up.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
In a Mythbusters way.
dan friesen
And so Alex takes it upon himself to deliver a message to the bomber.
jordan holmes
Good, good.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
dan friesen
It's not...
jordan holmes
It's about safety.
dan friesen
It's not that good.
alex jones
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
But in the balance...
Whoever did this, I would tell you, I understand why you did it.
You're probably watching right now.
jordan holmes
I'm disappointed in you.
alex jones
I would encourage you to stop and to not do anything further.
We're very blessed you didn't hurt anybody.
You obviously chose a time to do it where you wouldn't hurt people.
And I respect you, and I understand you.
jordan holmes
It's out of character for my people.
alex jones
I also ask you to stand down, and as Trump said, stand by.
dan friesen
That's weird.
jordan holmes
What a strange, strange thing to say.
dan friesen
The thing that Trump said about the Proud Boys who then...
jordan holmes
Tried to overthrow the government.
dan friesen
Right.
And they took that stand down and stand by as like battle orders.
jordan holmes
An explicit signal.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
To be awaiting for his call.
dan friesen
So what this sort of evokes is Alex is like, hold on, we're going to need you to bomb something later.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
Just be cool for right now.
jordan holmes
Today wasn't the day to bomb the Guidestones.
I don't know.
dan friesen
I respect you.
jordan holmes
Also, his, like, I'm not mad at you.
I'm just disappointed energy is so infuriating for a bombing.
unidentified
Big dad energy.
jordan holmes
I know you, listen, you wrecked the car.
It happens to a lot of people, and I'm sorry, is a little bit different from you blew up the Georgia Guidestones.
I get it.
We've all been there.
dan friesen
Who amongst us hasn't...
jordan holmes
Let Hughes without a bomb cast the first bomb, obviously.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's interesting that Alex is comfortable, too, being like, I'm pretty sure you're listening.
jordan holmes
How did you...
dan friesen
You're clearly one of my audience.
unidentified
He's just...
dan friesen
All right.
All right.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
I think that this is probably going to be a case that will not take very long to solve.
There was some surveillance footage and what have you.
jordan holmes
That's not good for bombers.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Traditionally.
dan friesen
No.
So I think that he'll be standing by in prison.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
For a while.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it was weird whenever they released a statement from the Mad Bomber, What Bombs at Midnight?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That was a little bit weird.
dan friesen
He was in concert with L. Seed and Chairface Chippendale.
So, we got open phones coming up.
alex jones
And we're going to have open phones.
First-time callers, long-time callers, people disagree, people agree, people have questions.
We don't screen your calls, just have a clean phone line, and don't cuss, because we're on 370-something radio stations and over 100 cable and TV stations, and we can't have that.
dan friesen
So that's fascinating.
Alex is on 370-plus radio stations now, which is almost double what he was at a couple years ago.
I don't think that's the case.
jordan holmes
That's not the arc of his popularity.
dan friesen
So, we'll check back in on this at a later time, but I do not think that that is accurate at all.
jordan holmes
I would argue that it's very inaccurate.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Alex has a cartoon character that he's going to compare the bomber to, and it is not the Mad Bomber.
jordan holmes
What bombs at midnight?
dan friesen
It is not.
jordan holmes
Ah, but that would have been a great one.
dan friesen
Yeah, no, it's not.
Not a tick fan.
I think he chose the wrong character.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Georgia Guidestones blown sky high like Wiley Coyote was there with his detonator and cord and everything else.
jordan holmes
Well done.
alex jones
Boy, are they scrambling around like a bunch of chickens with their little satanic heads cut off trying to find out exactly what happened.
dan friesen
Two points.
One.
Wile E. Coyote's defining characteristic is his plans don't work.
He blows himself up pretty constantly.
jordan holmes
He would not have succeeded in blowing up one of the Georgia Guidestones.
dan friesen
No.
And he's trying to eat the Roadrunner.
I don't know what that would have been metaphorically in this case.
But yeah, you wouldn't compare Wile E. Coyote.
I mean, he does have bombs.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
But he orders them online.
He doesn't make them from home.
unidentified
True.
dan friesen
And again, They don't work.
jordan holmes
No, they, I mean, sometimes, but even then, they are very small and just turn his face black.
dan friesen
Yeah, they work ironically sometimes.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Self-defeatingly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the globalists are also a lot like Wile E. Coyote in that they are often running when there is no ground beneath them.
dan friesen
And similarly, they are both not real.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The other thing is that no one is running around like chickens with their satanic heads cut off.
jordan holmes
Who is supposed to be doing that?
dan friesen
I don't know if I've heard anybody be like, oh my god, what an outrage.
jordan holmes
It has been one of the more purely Notable things.
It is simply a thing everyone has noted, and that is it.
dan friesen
Yeah, not good that someone bombed a thing, obviously, but yeah, no one...
jordan holmes
Not a big deal either.
It's just kind of a notable event that happened.
dan friesen
No one's like, this strikes at the heart of...
jordan holmes
It's exactly like the Georgia Guidestones themselves going up.
It was just a notable thing.
dan friesen
Yep.
Yep.
jordan holmes
They died as they lived.
dan friesen
What if it turns out it was Ted Turner?
It blew him up.
jordan holmes
If anybody would behave like a cartoon character in real life, I think we know exactly who it is.
dan friesen
So, Alex has a bit of a, I guess, you know, there's the psych meds narrative about the Highland Park shooter that's been going around.
Margie Taylor Greene's throwing some business around.
unidentified
Naturally.
dan friesen
And this is extending now for Alex, because we have the psych med stuff.
And also that sweet green.
unidentified
Ah!
dan friesen
The weed.
jordan holmes
Ah, yes.
dan friesen
Alex says, he's going reefer madness on you.
jordan holmes
Wow.
alex jones
And I remember 10 years ago warning Joe Rogan and many others on air that weaponized marijuana 20, 30, 40 times stronger than what it used to be was linked to schizophrenia and linked to mass murder.
And now Joe Rogan goes on a show and talks about it.
It's in the New York Times that this new weaponized marijuana turns people into crazy people.
I have known personally three people that worked here that were massive pot smokers who went crazy.
One of them thought that David Knight was a reptile alien.
jordan holmes
He still works here.
alex jones
Another one thought we'd planted microphones in their office.
jordan holmes
That was me.
alex jones
And another one thought that I was the devil.
That was also me.
Joe Rogan used to laugh at this.
He has a bunch of friends, he talks about all the time, that used to be completely normal, who are totally insane from marijuana.
dan friesen
I would argue that there is a real selection bias here.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
Three people who worked at InfoWars went crazy in paranoid ways that are very on-brand for people who believe InfoWars should.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Lizard people, someone spying on me, and Alex is the devil.
jordan holmes
It would be crazy for somebody who worked at InfoWars to think that there were microphones in their office.
dan friesen
Yeah, or that David Knight's a lizard person, considering that David Icke is constantly on the show.
Or not constantly, but...
Fairly regularly.
And Alex talks about everyone else being the devil.
Someone being like, maybe you're the devil.
I feel like these are all just manifestations of very normal paranoia that would be pretty normal in Alex's crew.
jordan holmes
I would also say that if figures like Alex and Joe are saying that recently...
People I know have been reacting very negatively towards me.
I think it's because of weed.
Maybe you're an asshole!
dan friesen
Yeah, also, yeah, for Joe, like, I mean, some of his friends going crazy on the weed, I think that also has a selection bias.
He chooses fucked up people to be friends with.
jordan holmes
Most of his friends have been hit in the head repeatedly a lot.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
For professional reasons.
dan friesen
Well, there's that branch of his friend group.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And then his other branch of friend group is like...
Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Joey Diaz!
unidentified
Yes!
jordan holmes
Yes!
dan friesen
He seems to not have a good filter on the people that he likes to spend time with.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And a lot of them are nuts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that'll happen.
dan friesen
And so it's not the weed, I don't think.
Also, I love the idea that Joe Rogan has come out against weed while he smokes constantly on his show.
jordan holmes
The whole time during the show.
dan friesen
His whole brand is, we all smoke a lot of weed.
jordan holmes
Can't do it.
Also, you just went on Mike Tyson's podcast.
dan friesen
And did mushrooms.
jordan holmes
And did mushrooms and then ate his fucking gummies.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Bullshit.
dan friesen
Calm down.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Well, see, what you need to understand is that Alex has a reason that he uses weed sometimes.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And here is that.
And this definitely doesn't sound like someone who has a really serious problem.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, I have tried marijuana to quit drinking.
And I go long periods not drinking, then I get...
jordan holmes
It's called L.A. So...
alex jones
I have had a problem about lying about it and honest with you.
And I maybe smoked pot a couple times a year.
And about a year ago, people said, well, you just don't have the right strength.
So I tried some different strengths.
And let me tell you something.
The only time I felt insane in my life was smoking that marijuana.
One time you smoke it, you feel fine.
Eat a bunch of food, feel great, everything's fine.
Next time you smoke it, you smoke it once, and all of a sudden...
You are really not having clear thinking.
And it's in the studies!
dan friesen
Alex has talked many times about other times he's felt crazy.
So this is bullshit.
But, you know, that's fucking addict thinking.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm gonna stop drinking by smoking weed.
jordan holmes
Here's what I need to do.
Replace one addiction with another.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That'll do it.
dan friesen
In really troubled times in my life, that has been the way I thought to.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, you know, it would be like, my hangovers are too bad.
I'm in college.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I need to shift something up.
And so, like, you know, weed becomes more prominent in my rotation.
Absolutely.
But yeah, Alex is an adult.
jordan holmes
Oh man, I quit smoking and I gained 15 pounds.
What a weird thing to have happened.
Perhaps I just replaced one compulsion with another.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This is pretty dumb.
Maybe not dumb, but it's disordered kind of thinking.
It's pretty common among people who have a problem.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I just can't handle watching commercials when I'm 15 that are bullshit, where it's like, if you smoke weed, you're gonna kill your baby and put her in a microwave or whatever, and then be here 20 years later and have people still be saying that shit when it's fucking legal?
That's absurd.
dan friesen
I think that Alex was a big libertarian, smoke your weed kind of guy earlier.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because it was in opposition to the mainstream consensus.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And now that it's kind of becoming legal and it's not that big a deal, he's flipping and becoming a reefer madness guy.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And I think it might...
Be a conscious effort to be interesting.
And I also think that it might be completely unconscious, just oppositional defiance that he has no access to.
He doesn't realize he's even doing.
jordan holmes
100% I could totally see either of those because in his personal life...
He would smoke weed at the end of the show.
He'd just walk out of there and somebody would hand him a joint.
He'd be like, that's great.
dan friesen
Or if some celebrity was around.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if any celebrity was around and they were like, take a puff of this.
Take a puff of this.
And they'd be like, oh, sure, I'd love to.
What is it?
Crystal meth.
And then it's all...
dan friesen
Well, he smoked crack on the beach when he was younger a couple times.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
Yeah, we know that.
jordan holmes
That's a good beach behavior.
That's a good beach drug.
dan friesen
Yeah, great beach drug.
jordan holmes
Great beach drug.
dan friesen
Crack.
Not for Alex.
So, look, this all leads to talking about how Cremo, the Highland Park shooter, smoked that weed.
alex jones
They make jokes.
So it turns out this guy was under psychiatric health.
jordan holmes
Whatever.
alex jones
Under treatment.
Turns out he was a massive dope smoker.
unidentified
Whoa!
alex jones
Living on cloud cuckoo.
dan friesen
He's living on cloud cuckoo!
jordan holmes
Wild.
dan friesen
He was cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.
jordan holmes
He was cuckoo for that Cocoa Puffs drain.
That's what he was going for.
He went for the popcorn Cocoa Puffs, too.
He didn't go for those big nuggets.
Uh-uh.
dan friesen
So, Alex can't prove that Cremo was on any psych meds.
He's just taking some comments from Marjorie Taylor Greene as proof that he was, ignoring the fact that she's just saying stuff with no proof.
MTG is a pretty bad source on this stuff, considering that just after the shooting, she posted a photoshopped image of Cremo on Twitter trying to push the psych meds theory.
These people have a conclusion and will accept any fake evidence to support that conclusion, where what they should be doing is gathering information and allowing that to guide them to a conclusion.
They don't do that because they don't care about reality.
Their job is to distort reality so it leads people to their predetermined conclusion.
Grimo probably was smoking a bit of weed, though.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We all are.
dan friesen
I'm not.
I don't enjoy it.
jordan holmes
No, not much, but still sometimes.
dan friesen
No, not really anymore.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, not smoking.
You eat edibles, gummies.
dan friesen
Not anymore, though.
I did for a little bit.
jordan holmes
I know, but even then, it's not like you would be like, oh, I can't believe anybody would do this, or I wouldn't take this if I didn't feel like it.
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
If you wanted to, you'd be like, sure, I'll just go to the dispensary.
It's normal and fine.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, but it's not.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's evil.
jordan holmes
It's evil.
That's right.
You know, everybody loves drugs.
dan friesen
Because it's weaponized.
jordan holmes
Drugs are great, and everybody loves them.
dan friesen
It is interesting how Alex never talks about his more speedy drug use.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he comes back from break, and I think he might have had a little visit from Dr. Toots.
alex jones
Your death, Pharaoh.
unidentified
You and you and your progeny.
alex jones
They will pay, not us.
You have brought down the angel of death.
You have summoned death.
Now death will visit you.
Bringer of death!
Bringer of death!
Devil pretends he's in charge of death.
He ain't in charge of it.
God is.
jordan holmes
Great.
unidentified
Alright, let's get serious.
alex jones
I'm going to air a few minutes Tucker Carlson knocking out of the park last night.
I'm going to come back from break and take your phone calls.
dan friesen
Seems a little spun.
jordan holmes
Alright, now that we're back from break, I'm out of here.
I'm going to get out of here, guys.
dan friesen
I'm going to yell, bringer of death, a bunch, and then I'm going to take my calls.
I'm going to have a little fun, and then I'm out.
His vibe was weird.
Oh, man.
So yeah, he plays a bit of Tucker Carlson, knocking it out of the park.
jordan holmes
Sure, of course he was.
dan friesen
And then he comes back, and he's...
Clearly trying to build more conspiracy around the Highland Park shooting.
And now he's folding in Uvalde into it as well.
alex jones
So a man dressed as a woman is just a disguise now, is it?
Yeah, for predators going for children?
I thought it was a stunning and brave gender identity.
He's Antifa, ladies and gentlemen.
And he identified as Antifa.
Here's some of the postings where he did on screen.
unidentified
For you right now.
alex jones
He hated Trump supporters.
He hated America.
And he went and attacked a July 4th parade.
Gee, do we wonder who she is?
Just like Uvalde, a young druggie from a family with limited means, somehow manages to buy about 5,000 of sophisticated weapons?
Hmm, says David Keene.
And then it gets more complicated with his family.
dan friesen
None of that is anything Alex can establish in any way.
And a person can dress as a man or woman, as a disguise.
That is definitely something that can be done.
jordan holmes
I've seen Mission Impossible.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it's also possible that people can be in drag as a performance, or people can be trans.
It's all possible.
One does not preclude the other.
Alex is acting like there's only one thing.
jordan holmes
I mean, I just...
dan friesen
It's just nonsense.
jordan holmes
It's just so fucked up.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
All in service of, like, you're even pointing out, like, oh, there's not much going on.
Family of limited means that spends money a lot on guns.
It's like, you're pointing out all the red flags that should be looked at.
I mean, it's very simple.
The problem isn't the shit you said in the preamble, it's in the predicate.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he can't...
All the stuff that he's saying that are sort of distractionary from that is just stuff that is based on shit talk.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like right-wing shit talk.
jordan holmes
Brutal.
dan friesen
So Alex gets back to the Guidestones, and he's taking some calls, and this is just not true.
alex jones
So let's go to Jeff in Florida.
Jeff, your view on someone blowing up a third of the Georgia Guidestones.
This morning.
dan friesen
So I don't want to be pedantic and I don't want to be a dick about this, but a quarter of them were blown up.
There were four slabs and one of them was blown up.
jordan holmes
Correct.
dan friesen
I don't care about misspeaking, but Alex has said a third a couple times.
And this is a problem because this should be something that he's studied.
He should be very familiar with the Georgia Guidestones.
He just played a video of himself.
At them.
Yeah.
Because when he was going around at the Stop the Steal stuff, he went to Georgia.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And they went to the Guidestones and showed...
So he was there fairly recently.
He should know that there are four if he cares at all.
He does not.
jordan holmes
At the very least, he should know Japanese isn't on any of them.
dan friesen
Eh, I give him a pass on that.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
He's a bigot.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
All symbols that aren't English symbols.
jordan holmes
Might as well be hieroglyphics, whatever.
dan friesen
Yeah, who cares?
It's all the same.
Anything that doesn't look like a letter is...
jordan holmes
Anything that's not one of the original 26. Get out of here.
dan friesen
So, I just find that to be a problem.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, the callers seem to have a pretty consensus view on this.
unidentified
I think it's a brilliant, actually a brilliant thing they did.
I've already sent out some texts to friends, and actually a few of them didn't know what they were.
So it's bringing attention.
alex jones
Oh yeah, Georgia Guidestones are the top of Twitter right now.
dan friesen
It's raising awareness.
So this bombing is good because it raised awareness.
jordan holmes
You know what's interesting?
I think this is a terrifying thing to Alex and the far right.
Not because of any kind of bad pressure blowback or anything like that, but because if people actually start going after the targets that they often say are focal points, if they continue doing it...
dan friesen
Like blowing up the UN building or something?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, not just that, but even more esoteric nonsense whenever it's just the weirdest shit out in the woods, you know?
And they just start blowing up even more obscure shit, and nothing keeps happening.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Eventually, they're going to be like, I guess none of these were that important?
dan friesen
Right.
Or, you know, there's a guy who bombed the Georgia Guidestones, and he gets in trouble in the same way you would if you blew up...
um something else just like a fixture sure like some sort of art in a park yeah absolutely no it's not some kind of a like he gets the death penalty or it doesn't become some kind of a thing like the awareness of the patriot community in the aftermath of the oklahoma city bombing right it's not that kind of a scale thing no it's just treated as the crime that it is i mean what if i think that Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
No, what if an InfoWars listener went and smashed the skull with cum on it or whatever, and it's not...
Like, this is a demonic thing that they...
And it's just like, what did I do?
dan friesen
They would be out a lot of money.
jordan holmes
They would be fucked on a money grant.
dan friesen
And then second, I don't think that's that big of a fixture in the conspiracy world.
jordan holmes
I mean, none of it is, but that's the point.
dan friesen
That's not a high-level target.
jordan holmes
No, but they're all stupid, is my overall...
dan friesen
Well, I mean, like, you know, the jump from the motivation to bomb...
It's not that big of a gap.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It is, you know, definitely one is a massive threat to human life and safety.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
And that is very relevant as a difference, but...
I don't really believe that there's that kind of a discipline among Alex's audience to show the kind of concern that this person who bombed the Guidestones did.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And I think that's troubling.
jordan holmes
That is troubling.
dan friesen
And I think that that could have the effect of making people take it a lot more seriously.
But yeah, I think you're right too, though.
That like, you know, if...
There are just other things that happen and people are treated like, well, you blew up a thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
All right, we're going to give you a fine.
dan friesen
Or like you go to prison for a year or two years for manufacturing of a bomb or something.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
You're like, yeah, it's...
It could definitely be like, wait, shouldn't the devil be mad?
jordan holmes
Shouldn't there be something bigger than like a six-month probation?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, that caller is happy because it's bringing attention.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And so is this caller.
alex jones
Lisa in Florida.
Lisa, what's your view on the Guidestones being blown up today?
unidentified
Well, I can see your point of view.
You don't want people to go getting violent, and I wouldn't want to see that either.
So I get what you're saying, but I don't know.
marjorie taylor greene
I think it's a good thing.
Because it gets people talking.
dan friesen
Gets people talking.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
This is...
I feel like this is rapidly getting out of Alex's control.
dan friesen
Well, I think this is still within the sort of territory of what his take was.
You know, like, this is not something that I would encourage, but the after effect of it may be something positive.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
You know, everyone's talking about the Guidestones.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Raised awareness of the evil.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And this leads Alex to actually have, like, a little bit of a theory.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
This theory is dumb.
unidentified
Let's hear it.
And no guns were used, so they can't scream about guns.
Right?
alex jones
Yeah, if I had to guess, local military police blew it up.
It really is a satanic obelisk.
How dare someone blow up a giant Nazi swastika in the middle of the countryside?
dan friesen
Yeah, so it's probably local military police.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So, but I mean, then is it okay if there's like a Jesus statue in the middle of nowhere that they put up?
dan friesen
That giant one?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And somebody just bombed it?
I think they would treat that a little bit differently.
dan friesen
Alex certainly would.
Yeah.
I think that actually would be more fucked up.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think I would take that more seriously.
jordan holmes
People don't have like a massive religion around the Georgia Guidestones.
dan friesen
Alex thinks they do.
jordan holmes
Well, exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
In their imagination, that is a holy site.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
So in my imagination, that puts it on par with...
dan friesen
In Texas, there are like recreations of the Easter Island heads.
jordan holmes
Totally.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And...
I'd be hurt if those got blown up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would suck.
But why are you blowing up the Easter Island statue?
What if there was some extreme Easter Island racist?
dan friesen
Or what if there's gold in those heads?
jordan holmes
That could be possible.
dan friesen
Is that what the National Treasure sequel is going to be about?
jordan holmes
It has to be Easter Island.
You've got to crack them open.
There's candy inside.
dan friesen
So this next caller thinks Alex is right.
unidentified
I kind of tend to agree with you that this monument is kind of total proof of what's going on.
And it's potentially a good thing that there's a tension raised, but I'm not sure.
I tend to agree with you that blowing it up is not necessarily a positive step.
alex jones
Russell, anything else you'd like to add?
unidentified
You know, just X2 as a miracle product.
dan friesen
It's a miracle.
jordan holmes
It's a miracle product.
Take that, X2.
dan friesen
Yeah, so it's not proof of all of the evil plans of the globalists or whatever, but hey, maybe it isn't a good thing.
Fine.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So the next caller thinks that someone should make a documentary about the Guidestones now, and I would say it's too late, because by the time you're done with that, everyone's not going to care.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
There's not going to be any attention on this.
Nope.
mike in florida
I think there should be another documentary made about the Georgia Guidestones and go out there and show them and really get in-depth on the SOC agenda behind them and promote the living hell out of it because, as one of the callers said, most people don't know about it, but now they're going to know.
alex jones
Boy, now they do know all about it, and it's called to kill 7 million people.
But how hateful is it to bomb something calling for killing 7 million people?
I think this is super racist.
I think this is...
White supremacist.
What do you think?
unidentified
Absolutely.
This has got white supremacy written all over it.
They should probably abort another 60 million children just to make this balanced.
You know what I mean?
alex jones
Very well said.
Thank you, Mike.
dan friesen
Very.
Well said.
jordan holmes
They are just terrible at sarcasm.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It always comes at a weird time, and you're like, what?
Why did you even add that?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's such a weird thing to say.
dan friesen
Well, it's because you want to minimize the other very racist things that happen in your world and you support and are a part of.
jordan holmes
I bet it's probably some white person who hates Jews.
Maybe they just blew up the Jewish one.
What a crazy thing.
dan friesen
Wait, I'm sorry.
I mean, you certainly hope that that isn't the case eventually.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And Alex should hope it's not the case eventually.
Eventually, because then there is some very hateful angle to this that you are pretending...
Isn't a part of it.
But we'll see.
I mean, I think that until the person is caught and until there's more information, it's really tough to tell if this is just a simple conspiracy-riddled mind who takes it upon themselves to blow up this effigy of evil, or if there is some meaning to the fact that it was the Hebrew one.
jordan holmes
I think they need to do, in order to catch this guy who's clearly a master criminal, I think what they're going to need to do, Is a sting operation.
They're going to have to build their own guidestones in maybe Iowa or something.
And it'll be too hard for this master criminal to resist.
dan friesen
But it could take another 40 years.
jordan holmes
Well, you know, it's worth it.
unidentified
Work up the nerve.
jordan holmes
It's worth it to really solve problems.
dan friesen
We're going to need to get Ted Turner on this right away.
unidentified
Get up there.
dan friesen
Stop it with the bison.
jordan holmes
Come on, Duke.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
Marjorie Taylor Greene is on.
jordan holmes
This show?
dan friesen
Yep.
alex jones
Well, for the next 45 minutes, my favorite member of Congress, Marjorie Taylor Greene is our guest, the great MTG.
Wow, she has been exposing the state to a war, the threat of nuclear war.
She's been exposing SSRIs and their direct admitted link to mass shootings and death almost every mass shooter and so much more.
But I've got to ask her up front because it's big news everywhere.
The Georgia Guidestones.
dan friesen
Gotta talk to MTG about the GG, the Guidestones in Georgia.
jordan holmes
This is so weird.
unidentified
It's dumb.
jordan holmes
It is so weird to live in this imaginary world where it's such a big deal.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
It is such a big deal!
dan friesen
That you have a Congress member on your show and you open the interview asking about the Georgia fucking Guidestones.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I think that there is a way, actually, if you were a sincere interviewer to ask that question, but only because she represents...
jordan holmes
A whack job, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
No, no, she represents...
Sure, sure.
So, like, it is kind of relevant to her, but she could be from anywhere, and Alex would still open with that question.
jordan holmes
Totally, absolutely.
That could be the president right there.
dan friesen
Hey, we're nutty, right?
And this is a nutty thing.
jordan holmes
Let's start with our language.
Yes.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Introduce each other.
dan friesen
This is somebody who's in Congress.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this is her take.
alex jones
Not for violence, but boy, does this send a message around...
The world.
A shot heard around the world.
I know that's very close to your district there in Georgia.
So Marjorie Taylor Greene, thank you so much for joining us.
We'll talk about January 6th committee.
We'll talk about the economy.
We'll talk about Biden.
We'll talk about it all in the next 45 minutes.
Thank you so much for joining us.
But first, what is your take on the Georgia Guidestones getting blown sky high?
marjorie taylor greene
Well, Alex, one thing I always appreciate about you is you bring up the issues that a lot of regular, normal people talk about.
And the Georgia Guidestones...
jordan holmes
Was she being sarcastic?
What just happened there?
marjorie taylor greene
Something that people have been confused over, people have talked about, people have researched, people have traveled from far distances to come see these things.
I'm not a particular fan of them because I'm, as you know, like you, completely against the globalist agenda and against population control.
I just heard the news probably about two hours ago about these things being blown apart.
And I think it just shows where we are today.
There's really a war of good and evil going on.
And people are done with globalism.
People are not going to go along with the New World Order, the liberal world order.
dan friesen
So it sounds like she's in favor of the blowing up of...
jordan holmes
I mean, what just happened?
dan friesen
Because there's a battle between good and evil.
This is a symbol of the globalists.
People are sick of the globalists.
So, yeah, you're saying that the side of good blew up this symbol of evil.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fuck, man.
You're in Congress.
This is nuts.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, what next?
Are we going to blow up Blucifer outside the Denver airport?
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Let's get him.
jordan holmes
Let's go.
Let's go.
Let's dig underneath the Getty.
That'd be fine with me.
Honestly, if instead of blowing up the Georgia Guidestones, they were like, fuck it.
We're going to do it.
And they just got a shit ton of machinery and literally dug beneath the Getty and found nothing.
That would be just as useful.
dan friesen
Here's the problem.
Yeah.
That is not going to help because the demons that are under the Getty only are like spiritually visible.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
So you would find nothing but the demons would still be there.
jordan holmes
But there's got to be some infrastructure down there.
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
Fair.
dan friesen
So Marjorie brings up the 4th of July shooting and she says something really dumb.
marjorie taylor greene
The July 4th tragedy is heartbreaking.
Imagine, Alex, that there was an entire month of pride parades and Is Marjorie pretending not to know about the 31 Patriot Front members who were arrested in a U-Haul truck heading to riot at a Pride event in Idaho?
dan friesen
It wasn't in the US, but in Oslo, two were killed and ten injured in an attack on an LGBTQ bar just before the Pride Parade was set to begin.
Is Marjorie pretending not to know about the suspicious pattern of drag queen storytime events that had been targeted by groups like the Proud Boys and disrupted with violence and threats, and specifically events that had been posted about and promoted by the Libs of TikTok account?
Or how in Baltimore, two separate homes were the target of fire attacks because of their pride decorations, one of them having their pride flag specifically burned?
Or what about the state violence of over 250 anti-LGBTQ bills being introduced by state legislatures, at least 24 of which have already passed?
Marjorie can come off it with this shit.
She's just making a ton of assumptions about the Highland Park shooter and his motivations in order to make herself more of a victim in everything, and to heighten that, she's pretending that the coordinated and escalating intimidation and violence directed towards Pride events just didn't happen.
Also, do not forget that this is a member of Congress who just said that maybe the bombing of the Georgia Guidestones was part of a war between good and evil, and who tweeted a fake picture of the Highland Park shooter in order to push her anti-medication agenda.
She's a piece of shit who should not be taken seriously on any level.
Any level!
jordan holmes
Well said.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Much like that caller from earlier.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Exactly like that caller.
dan friesen
Yeah, she can fuck off.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, she has some demands.
About the Highland Park shooter, Robert Cremo.
marjorie taylor greene
And this guy, Bobby Cremo, he's the worst of the worst.
And so what I've been demanding, and I started demanding it immediately, is release his records.
He doesn't get a right to privacy anymore.
We should know exactly everything about him.
We should know his school records, his arrest records, hospitalization records.
We should know what drugs he was on, recreational drugs.
We should also know what prescription drugs he was on, like SSRIs.
You can see this guy was clearly messed up.
dan friesen
You see, these are the rule of law people.
You know, the ones who are super concerned about people respecting the law and also have very serious concerns about privacy.
That's why Marjorie doesn't seem to care about determining that Cremo is guilty before he's been tried and why she demands that he be treated as if he were guilty before being proven so.
He's guilty before trial to her because she believes that there's some utility for her in acting that way.
She doesn't give a shit about the fundamental rules that our country operates on.
This is all just a PR game to her.
And let me explain the game that she's playing here.
MTG knows that these records aren't going to be released, or at least there's a very low chance that they will be immediately, so she's setting herself up to score points on pretending that this means that these records are being covered up.
She's talking shit about something that she knows is a non-starter because it allows her to do basically nothing and act like she's some kind of intrepid truth seeker.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The second reason she's doing this and insisting this needs to happen now is because she's keenly aware that her audience has a non-existent attention span.
As the investigation progresses and gets to the point where Cremo goes on trial, a lot of that information that she's after will be readily available.
But by that point, her followers won't care at all.
jordan holmes
Not even a little bit.
dan friesen
They will have moved on to being mad about some other thing that she's pretending to be on a crusade about, so that information at that point is of essentially no use to her.
She needs to make as big a deal about this as possible now, because she won't be able to use it for anything later.
If she grandstands about this idea that he must have been on psych meds now, she'll achieve the goal that she's after, which is to demonize psych meds, and it won't even matter if she's right or not that Krimo was on meds.
Even if eventually...
It does come out that he wasn't on any.
It still won't matter, because all her audience will remember is that she made a big deal of how suspicious it was that she wasn't being given access to all of his personal information.
This is a trick, and people who play games like this, they can't be trusted to be in positions of public influence.
Also, let us not forget that her underlying premise is also incorrect and that there is no causal connection that they can demonstrate between psych meds and carrying out shootings.
In fact, a prospective study published in the Journal of Clinical Psychopharmacology.
Right, right, right, right.
So there was much more of availability of information about them.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
So the designation was between In 1982 and 2012, people who had killed four or more people with firearms.
They found that 28 out of the 35 had psychiatric diagnoses, four had none, and three, there wasn't enough information to tell.
From the results of their analysis, quote, None of those diagnosed with psychiatric illnesses were treated with medication.
This talking point that Marjorie has is bullshit, and it causes harm to people who need mental health care.
It makes people more reluctant to seek treatment and get the help that they need, quite frankly.
And it's monstrous.
She should be very ashamed of herself.
She's doing actual damage.
jordan holmes
No, there's...
I mean, there's really only two, like...
She makes a lot of money doing nothing with a lot of steps.
dan friesen
Well, talking shit.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but...
unidentified
That's what she's doing.
jordan holmes
You know, just taking a lot of steps to do nothing.
And then it's just a fucking...
dan friesen
It's essentially trolling.
jordan holmes
By demonizing psych medication and doing everything to protect guns, you are why mass shootings happen.
dan friesen
Sure.
I mean, it's the exact same thing with, like, the, you know, we talked about, I think it was on our last episode, with the unfortunate and tragic case of the migrants who were in that truck.
Like, the policies that Alex seeks to put in place make incidents like that more likely to happen.
jordan holmes
Inevitable.
dan friesen
And the policies that Marjorie seeks to put in place as it relates to psych medication would make people more likely to not get the kind of treatment that they need and make...
The possibility of violence, whether it's self-directed or outwardly directed, more likely to happen.
Absolutely.
It's fucked up.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And like I said, I mean, she's just talking shit.
It's just somebody who's kind of trolling, but the troll damage is serious, and she's in Congress.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
She's in Congress.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, you can't reasonably not know this information by now.
You can't.
dan friesen
I think it's unlikely.
And I think that the studies and stuff, the information that she would be having to be relying on are things like stuff produced by the Church of Scientology.
And so, like, yeah, you have to understand that the foundation you're standing on is flimsy.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And that means that you know and you don't give a fuck.
dan friesen
Well, I think that it's...
You know what I was mentioning earlier?
It's like they have a conclusion that's seeking support as opposed to looking at information and letting that lead to a conclusion.
It's backwards of truth-seeking.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, the problem, I feel, is that they've done the truth-seeking and now they're deliberately lying about it.
dan friesen
I think that is generous of you to assume.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because I don't even know if they went through that much of a process.
jordan holmes
That's a fair point.
dan friesen
So, Marjorie sucks.
marjorie taylor greene
And we know, Alex, we know that it has led to these mass shootings.
Almost nearly 100% of these mass shooters have taken these drugs, and they may go on and off of them at times, and they may be a combination with recreational drugs that do cause psychosis and other serious issues.
dan friesen
She was making that up.
But also, you know, obviously, it would not be the full story to say that everything is perfectly fine with...
With the state of medication in the country.
That would be absurd.
Obviously, there are people who should have access to medication who do not, whether it's financial reason or insurance reason.
There is that.
There is over-medication in some sectors, in some meds.
The profit motives there can be a little bit sketchy.
jordan holmes
There's cultural fear of searching for help with your psychiatric meds.
dan friesen
I think there's a widespread awareness, but maybe there could be more of the dangers of falling off medication and abruptly stopping taking it.
These things are real, but some of it is being hijacked.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, stopping your medication abruptly is more dangerous than not taking medication.
dan friesen
Probably.
I would assume that is the case.
I don't know how to quantify it.
Because you'd kind of have to...
Like, have a counterfactual situation.
It is very dangerous and should not be done outside supervision.
But yeah, there are legitimate things, but these aren't the conversations that they're having.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
And that sucks.
jordan holmes
They're having...
We're willing to watch people die borderline every day just because we get our cut.
dan friesen
So, I think Alex has realized that when he trolls everybody talking about how Marjorie should be president, he gets a lot of attention out of it.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And so he continues on that game.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
alex jones
You're really the example of what they fear, a grassroots rebellion taking over the Republican Party.
Everybody sees that.
So I want you to finish up on how you think we can stop this escalating war in Russia with Ukraine.
And then I want to ask you...
Trump, DeSantis.
I mean, I personally think they're both great people.
I support them, but I'll be completely honest.
I think if the system got out of your way, which they would, and the Republicans didn't attack you, which they will, I think you would poll better and be a better candidate for president than DeSantis and Trump.
So would you take a VP slot with either one of them, or I'd rather just go ahead and back you for president?
No, you laugh at that, but see, no, no, no, you're way smarter than, I'm serious.
You're just as smart or smarter than both of them, and you've got the guts we need.
Everybody loves you.
jordan holmes
I do believe that's true.
alex jones
I seriously need to think about MTG president here.
dan friesen
I honestly don't think that she would poll well at all.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
She wouldn't be in Congress if she wasn't in a Republican plus 20-whatever district, and if she didn't essentially run unopposed getting into Congress and then have just that crazy incumbency.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Which is crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
She's, by the grace of God, let's say, in Congress.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
She would not be...
I don't think that she would run well.
No.
jordan holmes
No.
And the moment people started listening to her talk...
unidentified
Ooh.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
But then again, made a lot of assumptions about Trump.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
But she'd be like...
dan friesen
There is a very strange...
Thing that some people like people who talk shit.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, they do.
They love people who talk shit.
dan friesen
Maybe we underestimate that a little bit and that she would have a lot of mileage in that.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
But, I mean, even Trump didn't say, like, you know, the Georgia Guidestones.
It's okay if you blow them up because they're a source of evil.
dan friesen
She said that sort of diplomatically.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
There was a little bit of...
jordan holmes
That's what she said.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, look.
MTG for president, baby.
jordan holmes
I love his fucking brown nosing for no reason other than just to do it.
dan friesen
Well, she'll talk to him.
jordan holmes
Of course.
No, I know.
dan friesen
She should be president because she'll talk to Alex.
jordan holmes
Well, he's totally being serious.
He would back her.
Do you want me to back her right now?
That's what he wants to do.
alex jones
Sure, I just say we leapfrogged the whole thing.
I say we leapfrogged the whole thing and just, who would you support for your vice president?
Let's just go ahead and draft you right now.
marjorie taylor greene
Well, we can't really do that.
But I can tell you what, I think, I know President Trump is definitely going to run.
I can't see him not running.
And then we're speculating about Ron DeSantis, but we haven't really received an answer about that.
But you know, people like...
Like both of them, for a lot of good reasons.
alex jones
Let me be clear.
Trump told Stone a week ago that he was considering declaring July 4th.
I said considering.
I didn't predict he would declare July 4th.
I said he was considering it.
And as you know, Trump's running.
marjorie taylor greene
Yes, Trump is running.
Absolutely.
And he should run for president.
I definitely think he should.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Alex.
I get that you hedged yourself a little bit with the nonsense about strategic flexibility, but you had a global exclusive that you were yelling about.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you don't have a global exclusive on a maybe he will, maybe he won't.
You are claiming that he will.
dan friesen
It's a lot easier to play this game after the fact when it doesn't happen.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Congratulations on being wishy-washy in your announcements so you can allow yourself to do this.
jordan holmes
Is that a successful hedge?
I feel like that's just laziness.
dan friesen
Yep.
They're similar.
So Marjorie is out, off on her way to run for president, no doubt.
jordan holmes
Good luck to her.
dan friesen
And Alex has a weird sales pitch.
alex jones
I've got so many irons in the fire, so many projects that are nine months pregnant that I've been so busy that I've not launched.
We've got four different projects.
jordan holmes
I've aborted most of them.
alex jones
Five months behind.
We have got so much going on, and I'm not complaining, but I have spent...
Literally five, six hours a day just trying to get the funds in here to run this operation.
And I just know it's part of God's plan.
I'm not complaining.
But man, we got great products you need.
Just get the products.
I know a lot of you have been doing it, and it keeps us on air.
We have delivered so much.
We have done so much together.
This is the tip of the spear.
We're so close.
Plus, you need the products we've got.
Man, what I could do with more funds.
Run away.
dan friesen
I could get out of here.
alex jones
I didn't even worry about plugging.
I didn't even worry about trying to amass capital.
And now they have crushed us down to where I am out of capital.
And we're at our most important point ever in our fight.
You cannot stand against the globalists.
You cannot put your thumb in their eye.
You cannot piss in their face better than spreading the word about Infowars and the articles and videos and buying the products.
At InfowarStore.com.
So we have the big July 4th special running right now for a few more days, up to 75% off.
That's below cost.
dan friesen
It's really interesting because I think that there may be some truth to that.
There is no better way to piss in the face of the globalists than promote Alex's show because they only exist as the cobra to Alex or whatever, you know?
They're just the imaginary bad guys that he's up against.
So yeah, the only way to stick it to them is to fund the imaginary opposition to the globalists.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Like, no matter what I do, I will never be able to stick it to the Captain Planet villains.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Unless I lived in Captain Planet world.
dan friesen
Well, you can just decide to.
jordan holmes
Right, right, exactly.
I can just give money to Captain Planet.
dan friesen
This is kind of like an augmented reality game.
jordan holmes
It is a little bit.
dan friesen
Where there's like...
Microtransactions, but you're buying Alex's pills.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
Yeah, I imagine it's the same kind of psychological addiction, too.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Terrible.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
I don't think he has a lot of irons in the fire, either.
jordan holmes
Ah, no, I think he's got a lot of irons that are getting burnt to shit.
That's what's about to happen.
dan friesen
What I could do with so much money.
I also, I love this notion, too, this, like...
Back in the day, I didn't have to worry about plugging.
Really?
You certainly still did a lot back then.
jordan holmes
What year was back in the day that you didn't have to worry about plugging?
dan friesen
If you weren't worrying about it, you were just doing it for fun?
Because you're doing it a lot still.
There's not been a time.
jordan holmes
We have gone back all the way to Y2K, my friend.
dan friesen
So, he goes back to calls after Marjorie leaves.
And this guy's got an interesting thought.
unidentified
The biggest thing is the bringers of death, Joe Biden and the globalists, they're allowing China, China and Russia and Iran are going to hold military drills down in South America soon.
makes sense and all it is is a test to get to us Joe Biden works for China he's going to allow them to attack us one of these days here so Absolutely.
alex jones
He's undermining this country.
People ever wonder what communism would look like?
What a globalist ticker would look like, we are in the middle of it right now.
Let that sink in.
dan friesen
This is communism?
jordan holmes
This is the worst communism I've ever seen.
dan friesen
And it also doesn't really look anything like communism.
jordan holmes
No, it's in fact almost, boy, late-stage capitalism.
dan friesen
I also thought that the Chinese land invasion was supposed to have already happened, based on Mike Adams' predictions.
Sure.
jordan holmes
I'm really struggling to understand what these people believe will happen if Biden allows China to attack us.
Like, okay, fine.
You believe Biden will allow China to attack us.
What does that look like militarily?
Are you really trying to tell me there's going to be a land war in the United States with China?
dan friesen
There's going to be a...
Normandy Beach kind of thing.
jordan holmes
That's a terrible idea!
dan friesen
It's going to be in South Carolina.
Wait, wrong ocean.
jordan holmes
They managed to make it through the beach on Normandy because they didn't have fucking drone automated machine guns and also bombs that could be flown from anywhere.
dan friesen
Right.
I think this is unlikely, but again, it's a caller talking shit.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
So here we are.
jordan holmes
I think he's right, though.
dan friesen
So we get back to the Guidestones, and this caller actually has a really good point that Alex realizes is a good point.
In the middle of this caller bringing it up.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
And it should have been something that Alex thought about already.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
unidentified
My view about the Guidestones, okay, I'm opposed to what was chiseled into those stones, but we all have a right to say anything we want.
alex jones
On our private property.
Now, that's why at the end of the day I can make jokes.
I don't like what happened because it's how the left operates.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
I like free speech.
Oh, fuck.
Oh, no.
unidentified
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Oh, I can't punish someone just for saying something.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
I'm a free speech guy.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
Oh, damn it.
jordan holmes
I think I've actually revealed that the Constitution is toilet paper to me.
dan friesen
Ah, fuck.
jordan holmes
Remember how we just said that those constitutional protections afforded to every citizen should be waived entirely just for this guy?
dan friesen
Ah, shit.
jordan holmes
Because I'm willing to...
I would say that if we waive it for one person, obviously it will never be turned around and used on me.
dan friesen
Now, here's the good news, though.
This caller's actually wrong.
Okay.
But Alex realizes that this is a dangerous point for him because he's this free speech warrior absolutist.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But this caller doesn't know what he's talking about.
unidentified
So we have a right to say our privately owned stones on his privately owned land.
We have legally protected property rights and amendments, First Amendment protections.
It's un-American to go onto private property and destroy privately- No, I agree with you, but people are taking- I agree with you.
alex jones
But the other side is folks are taking the gloves off.
dan friesen
Taking those gloves off.
The guidestones weren't on private property.
Now, R.C. Christian gave it to Elbert County, so that isn't private property since it's government-owned.
In theory, all that would have been needed to take down the guidestones would have been the county commissioners getting petitioned and following some legal channels to get them removed.
That never happened because they were helpful in terms of bringing visitors to the area, which helped local businesses, and no one there seemed to care enough to try to get them removed.
It's interesting that these people don't really understand free speech dynamics on either side of the coin.
This absolutely could have been speech that would be subject to censorship.
It just wasn't, because only lunatics think that it's some kind of an evil, satanic effigy.
That's why someone had to blow them up, because they couldn't get their way through the appropriate channels.
That's really what happened here.
Someone threw a fit.
jordan holmes
Again, again, you can't just fucking...
Comptroller your way to defeating evil.
Okay?
If you can just be like, hey, okay, we've got 15 votes, so evil's taken away, then it's not really that evil.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
No, I mean, like, this is something that if it was a problem for the local community...
jordan holmes
At any point in time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Any point in time.
dan friesen
And it wasn't.
jordan holmes
No.
It was actually good for them.
dan friesen
And ultimately, yeah, in terms of bringing commerce to town.
jordan holmes
I think they should leave the rubble up because that's going to up the tourism even more.
dan friesen
Honestly, they should just, I don't know, rebuild them, but imbue them with magic or something.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's the new conspiracy theory.
It was a bombing by the globalists because they forgot to imbue that particular tablet with the magic.
They had to do another one.
dan friesen
But they blew that one up and then they...
Took it all down.
So eventually they did demolish the whole thing.
jordan holmes
Ah.
dan friesen
But the bomb itself only took out that one.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
So here's a dumb caller.
unidentified
I want to talk about how the human race saved life on planet from catastrophic CO2 depletion.
dan friesen
All right?
unidentified
Because the planet needs...
alex jones
No, it's true.
All the studies showed in the last few million years it was going down to zero, which would kill the plants by us terraforming and literally, like we were put here to do it, bringing up the old fossil fuel and save the Earth.
dan friesen
Well, that's fun.
jordan holmes
Man, can't we all just be like, okay, whatever you believe about climate change, we just gotta let oil execs not be there anymore.
You know, like, they're your ideas.
That is un-American.
dan friesen
That is like blowing up something in a private lawn.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, that's fair.
dan friesen
Anyway, we got one more caller here.
And this is really kind of exactly what we've been talking about is the sort of danger Alkiller from Virginia.
alex jones
You're on the air.
unidentified
Go ahead.
owl killer in virginia
I think the only thing that could make me sadder would be if somebody somehow gets into the Grove and takes Moloch before the retreat this July.
alex jones
We wish for no violence, but if somebody non-violently burned down Moloch, that's a terrible idea.
unidentified
I know.
That would really put a ray in my parade.
dan friesen
So yeah, they're joking around and talking about blowing up Moloch.
And hey, guess what?
That is private property.
So that would be what that caller was bringing up.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
So yeah, I mean, this is the kind of conversation that is inevitable to be had in these groups.
And that is like, oh yeah, let's take down more.
And like I said, the thing that is worrying is it will not have the discipline.
Generally, of not hurting other people.
jordan holmes
No, this is LARPing, except LARPers know they're LARPing, so they don't actually shoot fireballs at each other with, like...
Flamethrowers.
They're LARPing.
They're having a good time in imaginary land.
dan friesen
This does end up having fireballs.
jordan holmes
This is not good!
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
This is fireballs that are real!
dan friesen
And Alex has every reason to know the dangers of this stuff with the people, or at least one person who he inspired to show up at Bohemian Grove heavily armed.
Like, he should know the dangers of his actions.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And that's why I would have preferred, if there was a more full-throated condemnation of this bombing, not some kind of a, I respect you, stand by, and stand down.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is dangerous.
And so, I've been a little bit flippant, you know, because I don't care about the Georgia Guidestones.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's hard to muster anything more than a, huh!
dan friesen
Yeah, but at the end of the day, I do worry that the way this is handled by someone like Alex is only going to lead to more potential damage.
jordan holmes
So far, the world has not arced towards de-escalation.
So whenever you see something that makes you go, huh, but also has a bomb, that means that there's going to be something probably later that makes you go, oh no, and there's a bomb.
dan friesen
And I hope that's not the case.
jordan holmes
That'd be nice.
No bombs.
I'm scared of bombs.
dan friesen
They're not good.
jordan holmes
I just don't understand why you would hold an explosive.
It's real explosive.
dan friesen
Well, what if you're trying to carve faces on the side of a mountain to make presidents?
Then you need explosives.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
A monument to genocide needs explosives.
That is true.
You are not wrong.
dan friesen
What if you're trying to cross great swaths of space in a short amount of time?
You need to blow up nuclear bombs.
jordan holmes
That's not bombs.
dan friesen
For propulsion.
jordan holmes
Those are just fun.
dan friesen
Those are fun time explosions.
Fair enough.
So, Jordan, we come to the end of this, and the Guidestones are gone, and Alex is happy.
Marjorie Taylor Greene sucks.
jordan holmes
Let me tell you how little I've paid attention to the Guidestones.
I genuinely thought they were like, well, I mean, you still got three, and they just left them up.
dan friesen
I think that...
If I recall, you didn't know about them before this show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely not.
dan friesen
I think you learned about them on one of our episodes.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
I'm talking about today.
I thought that when the guy blew one of them up, they were like, well, let's just clean that one up and we'll leave the other three.
That seems fine.
dan friesen
They decided it was too much of a structural danger to leave them up.
So they were just like, let's go ahead and take them.
Yeah, it's not really...
Front and center of anyone's mind.
Except for maybe the Albert County tourism people.
jordan holmes
I mean, don't you want to catch the bomber?
You leave him up.
He's going to have to go for the rest of them.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's got to pick up the spare.
jordan holmes
Absolutely!
unidentified
What, is he going to just leave one frame empty?
dan friesen
Yeah, no way.
Oh boy.
Yeah, I'm interested to see how this resolves, though.
Like, I am interested to see when they catch the guy.
Or gal.
Or person.
What their motivation was.
What kind of...
jordan holmes
I hate stones!
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's Roger Stone.
It is a stone.
It's an attack on Roger.
jordan holmes
It's on the left.
Every time.
dan friesen
Yep.
Yep.
So yeah, we'll be back on Monday, Jordan.
But the dreamy, creamy summer is going along.
jordan holmes
Oh, it continues.
dan friesen
I'd like to thank everybody again for their generosity and support of the cause.
There are ice cream updates on there.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
There will be more.
And I don't want to speak too specifically yet, but there are exciting things on the horizon.
There are irons in the fire that are nine months pregnant.
jordan holmes
We're doing reset fight!
unidentified
We're not doing that.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
But thank you all again.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
So we'll be back.
Jordan, but until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
Now go to bed, Jordan.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I hope you all have a wonderful, dreamy, creamy summer.
steve quayle
And now, here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
marjorie taylor greene
I'm a huge fan.
unidentified
I love your work.
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