Today, Dan and Jordan declare their independence from Alex Jones to check in on a recent Project Camelot interview featuring a man who telepathically communicates with Sasquatch. Also he went to Mars for a year. Dreamy Creamy Fundraiser
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I have great respect for knowledge fight. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and George. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
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Andy in Kansas. | |
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
| Hey everybody! | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
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Dan. | |
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| Today, my bright spot, Jordan, is... | ||
| I didn't know this thing existed, but I ordered it, and I'm excited for it to come. | ||
| It has not come yet, so it's sort of a preemptive bright spot. | ||
| But I hate doing laundry, because I have to go down some flights of stairs, and then I have to go to another building, and it's in the basement of another building. | ||
| It's such a hassle to carry this heavy hamper of clothes. | ||
| And so I found one that has, like, backpack straps. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Yeah, so I have a backpack strap, a laundry basket. | ||
| I like it, like a papoose. | ||
| I'll be living it. | ||
| Yep, living it up. | ||
| So I'm now excited to do laundry in the future. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| At least for the first couple of times while it's still novel, right? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Then it'll get boring and I'll need to... | ||
| Then it'll be like, I need a... | ||
| Satchel bag style. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Yeah, let's just switch it up somehow. | ||
| Keep it fresh. | ||
| I like the idea of a sleigh. | ||
| I think you should have a sleigh that attaches like a belt. | ||
| That's going to be tough on the stairs. | ||
| We'll be tough on the stairs. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Going down the stairs, though, a lot easier. | ||
| It could have, like, a couple of slinkies that it uses. | ||
| That could work. | ||
| That could work. | ||
| So what about you? | ||
| My bright spot, Dan, is, as I said last week, you know, SGDQ, Summer Games Done Quick, just wrapped up, and they finished with over $3 million raised over the week. | ||
| But what's so cool about it is that yesterday they went from, like, two-point-something, In 24 hours, three-something. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| For Doctors Without Borders. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It was incredible to watch. | ||
| It was so cool. | ||
| Can I ask you, I haven't watched much of this at all, or any of it this time. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Does it have to be a summer game? | ||
| No. | ||
| Because I was thinking, okay, so it's got to be Mario Tennis. | ||
| No, it's more like that is when it happens. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But you can still do a game that has a wintry theme. | ||
| Tropical Freeze. | ||
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Sure, sure, sure. | |
| Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze. | ||
| Well, they do these Mario ROM hacks. | ||
| One of them was made out of this game called Celeste, so it had snow and all that stuff. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It was all there. | ||
| Played that Celeste quite a bit. | ||
| Yeah, it's a good game. | ||
| It was pretty fun. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Jordan, today we have something fairly fun also. | ||
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What? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| What a curveball. | ||
| That's a wild... | ||
| Well, look, here's the deal. | ||
| We're going to be releasing this. | ||
| It's the 4th of July. | ||
| And according to Alex and Roger Stone on their big exclusive from last week, Trump is going to announce his candidacy. | ||
| On the 4th. | ||
| 100% will, guaranteed. | ||
| But maybe there'll be strategic flexibility. | ||
| Well, strategic flexibility is what it is. | ||
| Now, I don't want to pile on and say more about this lest Trump actually does announce it. | ||
| It's really entirely possible. | ||
| So I want to put Alex on the back burner. | ||
| And thankfully, I found something wonderful. | ||
| Okay, well, thank you very much. | ||
| And please give our regards, if possible, to Squatch. | ||
| I will. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Thank you! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Found a new Project Camelot episode. | ||
| Give our regards to, I believe it was Squatch? | ||
| Squatch. | ||
| It was Squatch. | ||
| Shortened for Sasquatch. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That is correct. | ||
| This... | ||
| I can't... | ||
| I cannot wait to talk about this. | ||
| I have watched so much shit, Project Camelot, trying to find things for us to talk about, and this is the best. | ||
| I felt like somebody who'd been walking through the desert who had found water. | ||
| Finally, finally! | ||
| My kingdom for a horse! | ||
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Yes, yes. | |
| And I don't know anything about this guy, but... | ||
| I hope he's not some weirdo, problematic, horrible person, because I like him. | ||
| Oh, now we're in real good territory. | ||
| So, all this. | ||
| Get excited for that. | ||
| But first... | ||
| I'm very excited. | ||
| Let's say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| That's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Smalliv and Voodoo would like one from the Horrible Man. | ||
| Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Next, Christian berries taste disgusting without whale butter. | ||
| Happy birthday to the hollow-boned... | ||
| Beelzebub of Killer Whale Island. | ||
| We all love you very, very much. | ||
| That might be late, but thank you so much. | ||
| You're now policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Word count. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Next, he's not that kind of doctor. | ||
| Dr. Stu P. Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Uh-oh, this one might be late, too. | ||
| Happy birthday, Squirrel Girl from Star-Lord. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And Dreamy Creamy Black Goo, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| And Jordan, we got a technocrat up here in the mix. | ||
| So thank you so very much to Loose Change and its consequences have been detrimental to human ascension. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| I have risen above my enemies. | ||
| I might quit tomorrow, actually. | ||
| I'm just going to take a little breaky now. | ||
| A little breaky for me. | ||
| And then we're going to come back, and I'm going to start the show over. | ||
| But I'm the devil! | ||
| I've got to be taken off the air! | ||
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Fuck you! | |
| Fuck you! | ||
| I've got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit! | ||
| Maybe today should be my last broadcast. | ||
| Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. | ||
| Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again. | ||
| That's really what I want to do. | ||
| I never want to come back here again. | ||
| I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. | ||
| I'll be better tomorrow. | ||
| He's going to be a lot better if Trump announces. | ||
| Yeah, I believe it. | ||
| I believe it. | ||
| But we will leave that to the side of our mind, not give it another thought until Wednesday. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| But for now, let's just bask in the wonderful waters of Squatch. | ||
| Hi, everyone. | ||
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Hi, Kerry! | |
| I'm Kerry Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I'm here with Major Solomon Berg, and we're going to be doing what might be considered a groundbreaking interview about his dealings with an off-world race. | ||
| That is comprised of what we know of as, in some cases, Sasquatch, in some cases, Yetis. | ||
| We know him by a lot of names. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Harry and the Hendersons. | ||
| I'm with it. | ||
| I am very much waiting for Major Solomon Berg to be like, Get out of here! | ||
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We don't want you anymore! | |
| Go! | ||
| Get out of here! | ||
| Solomon Berg, I have to say, is one of the more likable people who's come on. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| That is great. | ||
| He does still seem like he's a bit weird, and I don't believe anything he's saying. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But if there's anybody who I've kind of wanted to believe, I think it's him. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if Sasquatch is talking to somebody... | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think he's a fine person for Sasquatch to be talking to. | ||
| Well, then that's great! | ||
| I also should say right up top, I don't know if he's fucking with Carrie. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| There is a small chance that this is a prank. | ||
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Right. | |
| I don't know for sure. | ||
| We'll leave open that possibility. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But look, he's a major. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He's also apparently quite an accomplished researcher and anthropologist. | ||
| Ooh, that's exciting. | ||
| You are a... | ||
| I guess a doctor of anthropology and also a major. | ||
| Are you a major in the United States Army or a Navy or a major in where you're located? | ||
| Can you explain that as well? | ||
| I have maintained the title major despite my current what you could call outlaw status. | ||
| My last My posting was with the United States Marine Corps as part of a group called Project Black Kraken. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, like, less than a minute into this interview, I am fucking hooked. | ||
| Not a major, but better believe I am. | ||
| I was a major, and I have kept that title, even though we've taken on an outlaw status. | ||
| We are off the grid. | ||
| Me and Black Kraken are off the grid. | ||
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Awesome! | |
| Awesome! | ||
| Okay, if you are fucking with somebody right out the gate, you're nailing it. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| So much of Carrie's content is this dumb shit QAnon nonsense and talking about Wano7 and is he JFK and like, I don't care about this. | ||
| I don't want to hear about vaccines. | ||
| I want to hear about Squatch. | ||
| Oh yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I want to hear about aliens. | ||
| Listen, Bobcat, Goldthwait. | ||
| Can do as many hours on Sasquatch as he wants. | ||
| I'm going to watch every single one of them. | ||
| And I'm already at like eight or nine, I think. | ||
| I will keep going. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I've had many a late night drunk conversation with comedian Jason Earle folks. | ||
| Back in the day. | ||
| That's a Kohl's evening. | ||
| A lot of Squatch talk. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Believing in Sasquatch is Kohl's. | ||
| So Black Kraken is the name of his group. | ||
| And here's what they were setting out to do. | ||
| My last posting was with the United States Marine Corps as part of a group called Project Black Kraken, which, as I mentioned to you on our previous phone call, Was a kind of military think tank. | ||
| Really, our goal was to push the boundaries of science. | ||
| We did a lot of what, I guess, in the conventional world you could call paranormal research. | ||
| He does not elaborate on this. | ||
| Release the Black Kraken's ideas! | ||
| He does not explain how he pushed the boundaries of science. | ||
| Well, I guess kind of. | ||
| I mean, ESP, you would assume. | ||
| Sure, there's a little bit of telepathy. | ||
| There's some of this stuff. | ||
| We're in Men Who Stare at Goat's territory. | ||
| Well, actually, as we'll learn later, it's kangaroos that he stared at. | ||
| But I don't want to spoil anything. | ||
| Oh, of course not. | ||
| So his backstory about how he got into this Black Kraken organization, this Project Kraken. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It goes back to when he was in high school. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| I initially was recruited into this program in my senior year of high school. | ||
| I was planning on enlisting anyway. | ||
| I was going to do ROTC. | ||
| I was contacted by an individual that I have known throughout the years only as OWL. | ||
| Sorry, what? | ||
| And Owl. | ||
| Owl? | ||
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Who? | |
| He informed me that due to my test scores, I had been sort of investigated by a higher cabal. | ||
| Leaders within the military who were looking to recruit talent. | ||
| What kind of test scores are we talking? | ||
| Like SATs? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think he was really amazing at Galaga. | ||
| And obviously... | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| That's clearly what happened. | ||
| I can't tell because if it's just like you had really good SAT or ACT scores, almost every high school has someone who aces one of those tests. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So everybody would know somebody who's getting recruited by... | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe it's some other weird test. | ||
| Maybe it's a psychopath test or something where they test your acumen for becoming a super science soldier. | ||
| That means that you have to be willing to eat your parents' toes. | ||
| It has to be crazy. | ||
| Here's a test that most people wouldn't pass. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Hi, I'm Owl. | ||
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That is... | |
| That was an immediate failing grade. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Imagine signing your test owl. | ||
| Get out of here! | ||
| So he gets involved with this group. | ||
| He goes into the military and he does not get into combat. | ||
| But he was overseas. | ||
| In Iraq. | ||
| And here's what he was doing. | ||
| I was never in active combat deployment. | ||
| Technically, although I was present as a cultural liaison during what became known as the Stargate Incidents in Baghdad in 2007 and Kabul in 2008. | ||
| And sometime after that, I returned to the States. | ||
| And I was doing civilian work, really, at that time, research. | ||
| I was informed about a Mars program, and I spent a year in the Mars program. | ||
| Where? | ||
| And then came back to Earth. | ||
| He was on Mars. | ||
| Oh, he was on Mars! | ||
| Yeah, he had a gap year on Mars. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I am sorry. | ||
| I'm 100% going to have to say right now. | ||
| Unless he is saying that we 100% can use Stargates to transport from Earth to Mars instantaneously, this man is, relativistically speaking, much older or younger than either of us, and I can't remember which way it goes. | ||
| Well, he does explain that the engine and the combustion system of the spacecraft that they were in is basically, what they do is they explode nukes behind it. | ||
| To propulse it forward. | ||
| Of course, yes. | ||
| And I think that would be pretty fast. | ||
| Perfect sense, obviously. | ||
| Super fast. | ||
| Just shoot one out like an egg every 100,000 miles or whatever. | ||
| I like it, yeah. | ||
| So he was doing the civilian work in between when he was in the military and when he went to Mars. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And this was at Temple University. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Apparently he went back to Temple University and he was doing some more research there. | ||
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Oh, good. | |
| I do have a civilian identity. | ||
| I did have a civilian identity. | ||
| I was working at Temple University. | ||
| Solomon Barr. | ||
| And I did some very interesting research in the area of human-animal communication. | ||
| And it was that research that got the attention of my colonel, Lionel Sperlinghetti. | ||
| He reached back out to me and asked if I could rejoin Project Blackraken because they had captured an entity. | ||
| Oh my. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So Lionel Sperlinghetti. | ||
| Okay, this is definitely somebody fucking with Gary. | ||
| This has to be. | ||
| It's a great name. | ||
| Lionel Sperlinghetti? | ||
| Great name. | ||
| So he's working with Owl and Lionel Sperlinghetti. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| So, yeah, they had to get him back in. | ||
| My favorite Chicago rapper was Sperlinghetti. | ||
| He was really, really great. | ||
| Favorite actor, Dennehy, obviously. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He's doing this animal-human communication research. | ||
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Right. | |
| And so they capture an entity. | ||
| And so they got to get him back. | ||
| Sperlinghetti comes out. | ||
| Sperlinghetti, we got an entity. | ||
| He's like, bird. | ||
| And you can apparently speak to giraffes, maybe. | ||
| So the entity is all on you, man. | ||
| Maybe giraffes. | ||
| We'll get into this later. | ||
| But obviously, this entity was the Squatch. | ||
| They had captured an entity in the Pacific Northwest outside of Seattle. | ||
| This is the being that I have referred to as Squatch. | ||
| Sas is his first name. | ||
| Do you want me to clarify the term Squatch? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Squatch is a human approximation of a noise that these creatures make when they're very young. | ||
| Squatch! | ||
| And they don't have human individual names like we do. | ||
| They have sort of a title system. | ||
| So you earn your title in their society. | ||
| Before they earn their title, the young ones are just called Squatch. | ||
| This doesn't make any sense. | ||
| This is like really maybe my only bone of contention with this guy. | ||
| Because Squatch is short for Sasquatch, and that comes from the Salish language, the word Sasquats, which means wild or hairy man in their language. | ||
| It would make sense that the Sasquatch did not actually teach us the word for Sasquatch. | ||
| It's a good swing, though. | ||
| I like it. | ||
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It's pretty good. | |
| Imagine if it was actually SAS Squatch. | ||
| Like, SAS was his title. | ||
| He's a special administrative servant to the Squatch community. | ||
| So he's SAS Squatch, and then there's obviously other... | ||
| Well, he is an ambassador. | ||
| He's a special ambassador. | ||
| And our guy, Major Berg, he's a cultural advisor. | ||
| I think this is all coming together. | ||
| I buy it. | ||
| So we got Squatch that's been captured that he is in communication with. | ||
| But there's other squatches out there. | ||
| And some, based on what he's saying, aren't even a squatch. | ||
| But I think... | ||
| One of the elders of this species that I have never had any direct contact with, but which I know of through the Overmind connection that we talked about, which I can explain further, is the Wizard of Washington. | ||
| So this is a very, very old male. | ||
| Squatch. | ||
| His hair is completely gray. | ||
| He's been a recluse for hundreds of years. | ||
| These are very long-lived creatures. | ||
| They have an adolescence lasting about 200 years. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Their adulthood could be as much as a millennia. | ||
| This Wizard of Washington is super lucky that it went gray instead of having Squatch pattern baldness. | ||
| Yeah, The Wizard of Washington, buddy. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| It's the best. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think this might be overload. | ||
| I think I might explode in my brain from having too much fun, Dan. | ||
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It's a delightful story he tells. | |
| The distance from where we normally live to where I live now. | ||
| You're going to cry. | ||
| I am going to cry. | ||
| Keep your tears. | ||
| Okay, I'll do my best. | ||
| Because we have sort of got to draw a line here somewhere. | ||
| And that is, you were saying he's trying to talk to giraffes. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| But I don't know if he can talk to giraffes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because I don't know how to classify a giraffe. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Technically. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because he actually has a distinction of the only... | ||
| Oh, he goes kingdom phylum. | ||
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Basically. | |
| He does the whole thing. | ||
| Okay, all right. | ||
| So at a certain point, the military brought you in because you have some unique abilities. | ||
| Can you explain what those abilities are? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So I am kind of sensitive. | ||
| I have developed a particular mode of telepathic communication, which is effective between human beings. | ||
| And other placental mammals that have a brain structure called a corpus callosum. | ||
| So if a giraffe does, then in theory he can telepathically talk to a giraffe. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| What is... | ||
| See, this is why we need to interview... | ||
| There's follow-up questions that definitely need to be asked. | ||
| She's not prepared to handle the easiest question in the world. | ||
| What's the funniest thing an animal has ever said to you? | ||
| Immediately. | ||
| That immediate thought. | ||
| Man, we're gonna get to some jokes later. | ||
| But not from animals. | ||
| We're going to get a sense of Squatch's sense of humor, though. | ||
| That's for sure. | ||
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The Squatch is practicing his Type 5? | |
| No, no, no. | ||
| The other way around. | ||
| What makes the Squatch laugh? | ||
| That's great. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| It's basically those jerky commercials. | ||
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Oh, well, yeah. | |
| It's not. | ||
| Yeah, that's a question Kerry should ask. | ||
| What does he think of those jerky commercials? | ||
| Is that racist? | ||
| I feel like that's racist. | ||
| It's got to be. | ||
| Beef jerky is... | ||
| So you were confused, or at least you made a little noise, when the overmind was mentioned. | ||
| And I don't know if we have a full clip where he totally explains it, but it's not like a hive mind. | ||
| But there is like a collective connection that those Squatches have in their minds. | ||
| And he was able to tap into this overmind. | ||
| The overmind I referred to before was... | ||
| Something I discovered early in my communications with Squatch, the overmind is a kind of collective consciousness. | ||
| And it is, it's not a hive mind. | ||
| They retain their individuality, but there is a sort of communal web of belonging. | ||
| I would describe it as. | ||
| It's very comforting and different from what most humans experience in our very hyper individualized atomistic world. | ||
| So he individually experienced this, though. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Personally experienced the Squatch overmind. | ||
| Yeah, he got into the Squatch mind. | ||
| I don't know what that would be like. | ||
| That would be wild. | ||
| I think it would be like... | ||
| Communing with Squatches. | ||
| I think it would be like being an orca. | ||
| You know, orca's brains, they have the parts that are more empathetic as opposed to ours where the more language centers. | ||
| You know, theirs are much, much bigger comparatively. | ||
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I think there's a good chance that the overmind already exists. | |
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Yeah, it's getting wild out there. | ||
| Well, you should do some research into that. | ||
| I think I will. | ||
| Like Berg has. | ||
| Now, one of the things that's kind of challenging about this is I don't think Solomon Berg is this guy's real name. | ||
| Yeah, that does sound right. | ||
| Because he did say that he used to have a civilian life. | ||
| So I would assume that this is a taken name. | ||
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Right. | |
| A code name of some sort. | ||
| Which makes it difficult to pin down some of the things that he's saying. | ||
| Like, in this next clip, he talks about how he tried to publish papers about his studies. | ||
| I would love to get my hands on those. | ||
| But I don't know what to look for, because the name probably isn't real. | ||
| Where would you begin? | ||
| I tried to publish papers about the telepathic communication I was able to achieve, and... | ||
| I believe I used the word laughingstock with you in our phone call. | ||
| So they had another name for me. | ||
| Dr. Doolittle. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| So it was, you know, we're talking about I'm trying to get good research published, but because of the subject matter. | ||
| None of my peers who are responsible for the peer review are willing to take it seriously, so I couldn't get it published. | ||
| If there was research that showed some ability to talk to animals, there would not be, like, people not taking it seriously. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| That would be groundbreaking. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, people would go, ape shit. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| Yeah, if something was sound, it would make it through peer review. | ||
| At the very least... | ||
| Able to be tested? | ||
| I think people would be like, listen, this is crazy. | ||
| I admit it's crazy, but this is a testable hypothesis, so fucking let's do it! | ||
| Fuck it! | ||
| I'm down! | ||
| Also, you shouldn't be too offended if people call you Dr. Dolittle. | ||
| No, that's fine. | ||
| It's the pop culture reference of someone who talks to animals. | ||
| Yeah, and even then, it's usually as the protagonist, you know? | ||
| Dr. Dolittle's the good guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You just don't want him to call you Norbit. | ||
| Yeah, that's a bad... | ||
| Or Hercules. | ||
| Or what was the one where he went to space? | ||
| Those are two different movies. | ||
| Dave. | ||
| Meet Dave. | ||
| Meet Dave. | ||
| Pluto Nash. | ||
| Pluto Nash is the one I was thinking of. | ||
| Yeah, that's the one you don't want to be called. | ||
| A lot of bad names in that oeuvre. | ||
| So, we get to talking a little bit about going to Mars. | ||
| And I would say that... | ||
| There's not a lot of details about his trip to Mars. | ||
| I want to know more about it. | ||
| It was a year of his life. | ||
| It's very important. | ||
| Now, you went to Mars before you got involved in the whole sort of off-planet races aspect, at least as far as the Squatch go. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So, I know my audience would be particularly interested in that, so if we can just start off with that and kind of get that out of the way so that we can delve a bit more into your current... | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
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Go ahead. | |
| Yeah, if you can describe how you got to go to Mars and what you did there and so on and so forth. | ||
| This goes back to 2010. | ||
| This was after my service as a liaison in the Middle East. | ||
| So I returned to the States and I was contacted again by Owl. | ||
| And Owl said he had... | ||
| A position that was off-world that might interest me. | ||
| Now, I had already... | ||
| So, when I was 18 and I was inducted into Black Kraken, they had shown me the Roswell footage. | ||
| So, I was aware of who the Greys were. | ||
| Well, to an extent. | ||
| I knew about Greys. | ||
| I would say I knew everything about them. | ||
| But I had a basic outline, I suppose, in my head about the extent of the U.S. government and military's involvement with extraterrestrial factions. | ||
| And it was during my service in the Middle East that I learned that The Greys were essentially mercenaries. | ||
| This is not about your trip to Mars! | ||
| You got sidetracked talking about learning about the Greys. | ||
| Yeah, I'm gonna be honest with you. | ||
| You know, like, I've told you about my bright spot one time. | ||
| I was watching For All Mankind. | ||
| I want to go to space so bad. | ||
| I just dream of it. | ||
| Like, the idea of knowing that the Earth is absolutely tiny in relativity, and yet actually being able to see it in real... | ||
| Oh, my God, that'd be amazing. | ||
| How could you be like, eh, I think the Greys are mercenaries. | ||
| If you went to Mars... | ||
| Yeah, and, like, the experience of being on the ship, it's like, wouldn't you be like, well, I was asleep the whole time, or, like, how long did it take, what did you eat? | ||
| Totally, cryo, something, you know, the whole deal, yeah. | ||
| Really light on the details, but that's kind of fine, I guess. | ||
| I would like to know more. | ||
| But, I mean, I wouldn't believe it if there were details or not, so it's not real. | ||
| It's a push. | ||
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Right. | |
| In movies, it's always either the travel is just completely cut out and you cut from one location to the other, or, like, the travel's the whole movie. | ||
| So I feel like we're in the cut to... | ||
| Yeah, for the most part. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I was later briefed and told about two factions, two interstellar factions, the Guardian Alliance. | ||
| And the Luciferian Alliance. | ||
| And I believe that the Luciferian Alliance centers around the Draco Empire. | ||
| And the Guardian Alliance centers around the Pleiadian Empire. | ||
| So I wanted to, you know, when Owl contacted me, He was kind of reminding me that we had a grander duty in the universe as a planet that is affected by this ongoing struggle between lightness and darkness. | ||
| So I took the position. | ||
| I traveled on board one of Black Kraken's ships to Mars. | ||
| This was in 2010. | ||
| Big one? | ||
| Small one? | ||
| 30 people? | ||
| Five? | ||
| What are we talking about? | ||
| I spent almost a year on the Martian surface. | ||
| How? | ||
| I was based at an underground compound. | ||
| Underground? | ||
| In the region called Cydonia. | ||
| So apparently it's some parts of Mars you don't need a suit for and some you do. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| No, that makes sense. | ||
| So yeah, I feel like we've gotten more of the why. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like he answered some of the why he went, because you have a responsibility. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I still just don't feel like I know much about this trip. | ||
| You know, they had to change their name to the Guardian Alliance because the former name used to be offensive to indigenous peoples. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So these are the people that we know about already. | ||
| These alliances. | ||
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Yes. | |
| The Draco are the evil ones. | ||
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Right. | |
| And the Pleiadians are the Guardian Alliance. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So we already kind of know the players involved. | ||
| We gotta... | ||
| I mean, I feel like if we were to get into specifics between the two of them and their ideas of what the specifics are between, you know, I think we might have some disagreement over what's going on. | ||
| But the players are vaguely the same. | ||
| Now, he went to Mars to be an archaeologist. | ||
| He was studying some archaeological sites and, like, sites of battles that had happened way in the past and what have you. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
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Now, mic down for this next clip, because this is where I started to get, like, this might be an elaborate trolling. | |
| Okay, okay. | ||
| Because, well, you'll probably see. | ||
| My research assistant was with me at that time. | ||
| His name is Daniel Jordan. | ||
| He's a Master Sergeant Daniel Jordan. | ||
| And Master Sergeant Daniel Jordan and I combed the area for debris, which had been left by ancient Martian soldiers. | ||
| Now, Carrie, when I say Martian soldier, I'm not indicating Martian as a species. | ||
| We are talking about Martian nationals. | ||
| This was... | ||
| In an ancient epoch where Mars was a very cosmopolitan, multicultural world, and so many of the Martian soldiers I'm referring to were in fact human beings. | ||
| They were transplants from ancient Earth, which was at that time ruled by kingdoms like Atlantis. | ||
| So look, it's entirely possible that it's a coincidence that his subordinate research assistant is named Daniel Jordan. | ||
|
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God damn it. | |
| Come on. | ||
| But it's weird. | ||
| I feel like now we have to comb through our own catalog to see if there are references that he made throughout the rest of it that we're too dumb to miss. | ||
| Like, I'm sure. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I think it's probably a coincidence, but I was like, this is weird. | ||
| That is just unfair. | ||
| You know, we've made the joke before. | ||
| But you actually are a witch, and I'm going to burn you at the end of this recording. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| I don't want to have to take out the couch. | ||
| No, I totally understand. | ||
| So he, Berg, Solomon Berg, found something that he was able to actually smuggle back to Earth. | ||
| It was very exciting. | ||
| There was one artifact I was able to smuggle home. | ||
| It was a stone pipe that appears to have been carved by a teenage human conscript. | ||
| in the army of Mars. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Used to smoke a Martian psychoactive herb and then discarded This is Pompeii! | |
| I suppose what you would imagine is, like, ancient power generators or sentient computers, and, you know, none of that lasted. | ||
| You know, it was just the bare basics. | ||
| Yeah, so he found a Martian hash pipe. | ||
| And listen, I know it's too late, but this is why, to any future Martian conscripts, you gotta smoke toad. | ||
| Everybody knows this. | ||
| There's no evidence. | ||
| But if you smoke toad, then you'll want to go home. | ||
| I don't want to be on Mars. | ||
| I'm not supposed to be here. | ||
| This isn't where my toad... | ||
| How did this toad get here? | ||
| So you said, what is this Pompeii? | ||
| Because you're like, he's painting an elaborate scene. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And it would have to be that everybody is frozen in place. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Carrie has a similar concern about the story he's telling. | ||
| Ah, okay. | ||
| Now, when you make a description like that, where you say, he was a conscript, he threw it out the tent, how can you know this? | ||
| Were you working with remote viewers? | ||
| Are you yourself seeing it as a remote viewer? | ||
| How did you tap into that? | ||
| We did work with remote viewers on Mars. | ||
| That was part of our contingent. | ||
| So they were able to get visual impressions. | ||
| We analyzed the substance, the residue that was found in the pipe. | ||
| Daniel Jordan actually smoked some of it. | ||
| He wrote a report based on that. | ||
| Okay, this is me! | ||
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Why would anybody do that? | |
| What are you talking about? | ||
| We found this resin on an ancient Martian pipe, and Daniel Jordan's going to do a trip report on it. | ||
| Look, the high was a little bit speedy. | ||
| Excuse me, ladies and gentlemen, but this is one small smoke for man. | ||
| Yeah, no risks there. | ||
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Good God. | |
| Certainly won't kill you. | ||
| Oh boy, that is... | ||
| I mean, it really would have been a lot cooler if it was just like, you know, Olympus Mons erupted and then there was a Pompeii-like situation. | ||
| That would have been great, and instead we got remote viewers? | ||
| Like, Carrie's even... | ||
| Her first reaction is like, what, did you have remote viewers? | ||
| Not like, was there archaeological evidence? | ||
| No, there's remote viewers and resin hits. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| This dude took a hit, and now he really knows what happened. | ||
| So there's a bombshell coming. | ||
| There's a bombshell coming. | ||
| No, we're done talking about the hatchback. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But there is a giant bombshell about where Solomon Berg is right now. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Now, is he aware that you're going public? | ||
| Daniel Jordan, yes. | ||
| He's my subordinate. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| So you're still working with him, is what you're saying? | ||
| He's still part of Project Black Kraken. | ||
| What happened was, fast forward 2018, when the issue with the Sasquatch, well, the Squatch came up. | ||
| I'm still trying to break the habit of saying Sasquatch. | ||
| Me too, buddy. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| That's when Project Black Kraken went rogue. | ||
| So I'm here in Israel with my team. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Now we've kind of made a big jump. | ||
| Yeah, we have. | ||
| Yeah, we've made a big jump! | ||
| Pretty huge jump. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, Berg and Project Black Kraken, they went off the grid. | ||
| They went rogue. | ||
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They stole Sasquatch and hid out in Israel. | |
| They're in a bunker in Israel. | ||
| The safest place to be with a Squatch! | ||
| Yeah, they made a deal with the Israeli government. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And so now they're hiding out in a bunker. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| About 80 clicks outside Tel Aviv. | ||
| Well, the Israeli government has to keep Squatch under wraps, otherwise people might stop believing in the origin myths of Adam. | ||
| I'm telling you, once you see a Squatch, you know that God isn't real. | ||
| Sasquatch opens minds, much like Toad. | ||
| But, yes, this is quite a jump. | ||
| Carrie wants to reel him back a little bit before we get into talking about how you scratch-napped somebody. | ||
| Somehow Carrie's like, wait a second. | ||
| So we've got to go back to this war on Mars stuff a little bit. | ||
| And there's a reason that wars happen. | ||
| There's actually multiple reasons, but here's one of them. | ||
| You know, we can't isolate one particular causal factor, but from... | ||
| Deciphering glyphs and ancient texts, we have been able to glean some details. | ||
| We know that there was a prominent human faction on Mars that was under the leadership of an individual named Chrysalix. | ||
| Now, Chrysalix was a half-human, half-Kaninaki hybrid. | ||
| Chrysalix ascended to the top leadership position of Ancient Mars, and he stoked resentment between two other non-human species, both of which claimed to be indigenous to Mars, but probably neither of them are. | ||
| One of them was a trog. | ||
| I mean, sure. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| What do the glyphs look like? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We don't get any explanation of that, but chrysalix. | ||
| I mean, just draw me one of the glyphs. | ||
| It should be really easy for you to draw me one of those glyphs. | ||
| You said you studied them, you speak the language, you've got remote viewers, you've got ancient texts. | ||
| Draw me a glyph! | ||
| You should be able to get some of these glyphs. | ||
| Just give me a glyph! | ||
| But I do think that it's interesting that the way that this guy is presenting this ancient fight, or ancient wars, is that there was a person who pitted two groups against each other. | ||
| And there's a sense of him recognizing that that is a bad thing to do. | ||
| And I think that that's important. | ||
| I mean, when we see these types of, like... | ||
| Transpositions, if you might, you know, like these ideas of how people are reacting to the situations currently transposed onto aliens doing it, and that's how they process that information, right? | ||
| This has a different type of self-awareness to it than what we have seen before. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what I feel from what we're listening to here. | ||
| But also, I think that if you're doing that kind of almost meta reading of the stuff that's being discussed... | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Oftentimes, the actual conversation that's happening on that other level, that metaphorical level, is really fucked up. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's scary. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But what he's actually talking about, and some of the other stuff that'll come up later, if it is metaphorical... | ||
| There is a very positive message behind it, for the most part. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he's basically describing some sort of, I don't know, populist leader that comes to power, who then uses an imaginary conflict to stoke resentment. | ||
| Between these two groups. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, boy, it just seems like I've never heard that before. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| So, you might be asking yourself, how'd this guy start out talking to animals? | ||
| How did that work? | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| It is. | ||
| Was that on one of the tests in high school? | ||
| No, it was not, actually. | ||
| I'll be honest, I've done exactly what he did, and I have not been successful. | ||
| In the course of developing the human-animal communication techniques, I first started experimenting, having telepathic conversations with my cat, Gnome. | ||
| And progress from there to laboratory tests where I communicated with chimpanzees, pigs, dolphins. | ||
| We discovered there was a hard limit that we could only achieve communication using this technique with placental mammals. | ||
| No mollusks. | ||
| I have stared for hours at kangaroos. | ||
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Nothing. | |
| Silence. | ||
| They're very quiet minds. | ||
| One of the other things that's admirable about his world that he's painting is that there are rules. | ||
| There are parameters to what he's talking about that you stay within. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And it's like, yeah, look, I have figured this out, and it has to do with the corpus callosum. | ||
| There's telepathic tendrils in there, and if you stimulate them, he's able to talk to the placental mammals. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And so it makes sense. | ||
| Yeah, you can't talk to something that's not placental. | ||
| It doesn't have the corpus callosum. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| Duh. | ||
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Duh. | |
| No, it is that any great science fiction always has the same basic fundament of as long as you establish these rules in the beginning and do not break them, then you can do any imaginary bullshit you want to. | ||
| Yeah, and he has fairly decent rules established. | ||
| And if you tell me that you've tried staring at kangaroos for hours and failed on this show, you won. | ||
| You won the show. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| The only thing I really take issue with so far is I want more details about Mars. | ||
| I need more Mars details. | ||
| And the Sasquatch etymology is very much dubious. | ||
| In question. | ||
| How long have you... | ||
| How do you know that a 200... | ||
| How do you know the Squatch is telling you the truth? | ||
| Squatch could lie. | ||
| Squatch can lie! | ||
| So in 2017, that was when the military found themselves a Squatch. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But at some point in probably 2017... | ||
| The U.S. military captured one of these entities. | ||
| He is a young male Squatch. | ||
| What you would call a bachelor Squatch. | ||
| He is approximately 300 years old. | ||
| And that is, in Squatch terms, about... | ||
| Like a 22-year-old human. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| I love the throwing around of terminology. | ||
| It's a bachelor squatch. | ||
| It's a bachelor squatch! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| That's a common expression. | ||
| It is always fun whenever you hear an actual scientist discuss a grouping of animals that they've been studying for years, and they'll be like, ah, the bachelors of the seal community are now challenging the... | ||
| You know, like that kind of thing. | ||
| And then you're just like, nope, you can't say that about squatch, though. | ||
| Yeah, you can. | ||
| Can't do it? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| No, you can't say that about Squatch. | ||
| Bachelor Squatch rolls off the tongue. | ||
| You can't just do Bachelor Squatch on me. | ||
| I think that might be a good button for the future. | ||
| Bachelor Squatch. | ||
| I do like that one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sasquatch with like a flower on his lapel. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Getting ready to go to prom or something. | ||
| Yeah, fuck this bored ape nonsense. | ||
| I want Bachelor Squatch. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, there was a problem. | ||
| Because the military had taken Squatch, and they were wanting to use him for evil somehow. | ||
| Well, I mean, they're the military. | ||
| Well, they wanted to use him for propaganda, basically, is the thing. | ||
| And so Black Kraken had to step in and save that Squatch. | ||
| Save all Squatches. | ||
| It came to light that both of the factions I mentioned earlier, the Interstellar factions, had an interest in Using the existence of the Squatch and its species history with both the Draco and Pleiadian Empires propagandistically. | ||
| And because of our government's infiltration by Dracos, it was a decision we made as Project Black Kraken to remove the Squatch Draco influences here in the United States. | ||
| Gotta remove that squatch. | ||
| This makes me think, alright, that we're not the only ones who have spent an inordinate amount of time In the Pacific Northwest looking for Sasquatch. | ||
| I think aliens have also been out there looking for the elusive Squatch. | ||
| Well, yes. | ||
| I mean, well, so, yeah, because they want to use them for propaganda. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So if I understand this correctly, as things will be sort of teased out in this conversation, the Squatch is a refugee from both Draco and Pleiadian territories. | ||
| Sweet. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And so they're here, and... | ||
| Conceivably on other planets, too. | ||
| We don't know that for sure. | ||
| But they're here, and so both of those groups want to use the existence of these refugees against the other. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so the Draco are in charge of the U.S. government, and so Black Kraken felt that they needed to remove the Squatch so they couldn't use them against the Pleiadians. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| So they went to Israel, which apparently is under the Anunnaki. | ||
| The Anunnaki apparently are in Israel. | ||
| I mean, it's questioned territory, so it's relatively safe in a certain way because everybody's trying to have their own... | ||
| Well, but the Israeli government, Kerry is pretty certain, is deeply involved with the Anunnaki. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| But that is not specifically full Draco. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's like half reptilian, half human, more or less. | ||
| See, again, it's somewhere in a nebulous space. | ||
| It's a good place to hide. | ||
| And that's why they went there into an underground bunker 80 clicks outside Tel Aviv. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| I think that just means that we need to have more respect for Squatches if not only are they evading humans, but indeed the entire universe. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Well, at this point, they're only doing it because of the help of Black Kraken. | ||
| Ah, that's fair. | ||
| That is fair. | ||
| Otherwise, they would be found by the U.S. government. | ||
| And then the Draco. | ||
| Sure, and then anything can happen. | ||
| Then there's an entire blitz of intergalactic propaganda against the Pleiadians because they displaced the Squatches. | ||
| I'm trying to figure out if finding out that a Squatch is real is worth the trade-off of discovering it's being used for propaganda. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It would be disorienting no matter what. | ||
| What's the moral on that one? | ||
| So when I was saying that this kind of meta conversation that you can imagine is happening when you're talking about these aliens and what have you, the metaphorical implications on the real world, when I'm saying that this guy, if you look at what he's saying metaphorically, it's positive stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean it's stuff like this, because you never fucking hear this from any of the other alien weirdos. | ||
| On the intergalactic scale, there are two major, I would call them alliances or coalitions, and one is centered around light work, and the other is centered around domination. | ||
| But within the framework of the light workers, there has still been a history of conflict. | ||
| So when we talk about Pleiadians, when I've engaged with less, I would say, with more credulous people, I have heard Pleiadians described in almost exclusively heroic or even religious terms. | ||
| And that's, I think, You absolutely do not hear that from anybody else on this fucking show. | ||
| For Carrie, every alien group is uniform. | ||
| That must have exploded her brain. | ||
| Did she die? | ||
| Did she literally scanners her brain all over the space? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| She didn't freak out. | ||
| The introduction of nuance did not hurt anybody physically. | ||
| She didn't swear at him. | ||
| I think it's possible that... | ||
| Well, here's a couple thoughts I have. | ||
| First of all, this guy's killing it. | ||
| Absolutely dominating. | ||
| In terms of an interview on Project Camelot. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| Out of the park. | ||
| No, amazing. | ||
| Second... | ||
| He seems like he can really spin this pretty well. | ||
| Like all of this yarn. | ||
| And so Carrie has got to be looking at this like he has a lot of information and awareness of a lot of the touchstones of things that are like in my world. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This guy, I could use him. | ||
| I could use this guy. | ||
| Mark Richards is in that prison, and I can't go talk to him. | ||
| I can get him on Zoom from that Israeli bunker. | ||
| We can talk. | ||
| And he communicates with Sasquatch. | ||
| Squatch can tell him things. | ||
| He can get into the Squatch overmind. | ||
| Imagine the information that could be coming. | ||
| I'm telling you, this is almost exactly what, if I were fucking with Carrie, and I had listened to all of our Project Camelot episodes, Over the span of a couple of weeks. | ||
| Man, this does seem like a formula that makes a lot of sense. | ||
| There is a real... | ||
| If this were an audition, basically, he's killing it. | ||
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Totally. | |
| I would not be surprised to see him back fairly soon. | ||
| No, and he's coming in with a lot of... | ||
| I mean, he seems prepared to know what it is she's interested in. | ||
| Or at least knows a lot about that world. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| A lot of words, a lot of concepts, but also it's so admirable that it does also feel like there's a weaving of empathy and a weaving of decency through this as opposed to looking at things in such a black and white way with aliens. | ||
| Well, I mean, the silence, I mean, it's an implied rebuke of Carrie to her face. | ||
| You know, like, many people call Pleiadians heroes. | ||
| I think it says more about us, you, that you claim that they're all evil. | ||
| I think it's very clear that that's a straight up... | ||
| Well, it could be read that way. | ||
| It may not be. | ||
| It depends kind of, I guess, how much awareness he has of all of Carrie's stuff. | ||
| And I would say that based on the sort of philosophical underpinnings that he has behind his discussion of aliens, it doesn't really work very well with Carrie's stuff. | ||
| I don't think that her audience necessarily notices... | ||
| Or would notice that too much, though. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's just fun alien. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| No, it's so malleable that... | ||
| There's so many of our experts who are mutually contradictory. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
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Oh, yeah, absolutely. | |
| It doesn't matter already. | ||
| Yeah, like, oh, no, this guy's lying. | ||
| Sure, sure, fine. | ||
| So, like I said, the Squatches, they're galactic refugees. | ||
| The Pleiadians, their empire does have a history of expansion. | ||
| And Squatch's species were refugees, but they were also refugees in the Draco Dominion. | ||
| So neither empire has been particularly good for Squatch. | ||
| There are no heroes to the Squatch. | ||
| You know, heroes are an oppressive Western construct. | ||
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Western? | |
| Why is it Western? | ||
| I think this guy is arguing that Squatches are the original Space Jews. | ||
| I think that's what's happening. | ||
| I'm going to skip to the next clip. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So Squatch views Pleiadians and Draco with suspicion. | ||
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Yes. | |
| But they were willing to consider you because you were kind of neither on one side or the other, so to speak. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think Squatch is comfortable with Jews. | ||
| I think squash sense is a kind of kindred history. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| You know, we are oppressed in the universe. | ||
| And so they were actually a rogue species and became a rogue species. | ||
| A diaspora people without a home for many, many years. | ||
| Squatch was very comfortable with me. | ||
| That makes sense as a story! | ||
| That is exactly right. | ||
| You have 100% created the correct narrative to build around the Squatch. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Squatch has opened up to me because of our shared sort of diaspora history and heritage. | ||
| We can connect on that level, being refugees. | ||
| Great! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's hard not to take a look at his story and say, well, the United States is incredibly anti-Semitic, along with Germany being incredibly anti-Semitic, and then, well, things played out the way they did. | ||
| He, um... | ||
| I also think that another good button would be there's no heroes for the Squatch. | ||
| Yeah, that one's great. | ||
| That was great. | ||
| There's no heroes for the Squatch. | ||
| That is such a great line. | ||
| And heroes is a Western concept? | ||
| That's a little bit suspicious to me. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Because if we're talking about space, then Eastern and Western, that's not really... | ||
| Doesn't really matter. | ||
| No. | ||
| The Western concept makes me think... | ||
| That it is intended to be... | ||
| Like, that seems like a little hat tip to, like, this is metaphorical. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| This is the Jews. | ||
| Or just refugees in general. | ||
| Sure, sure, absolutely. | ||
| I mean, you could apply it to the Ukrainian refugees as we speak. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I don't know if I want to go that far and say I'm convinced that it is, but... | ||
| There's a sense that it doesn't make sense if you're talking about this in space. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| I mean, you know, we can always fight over authorial intent, but in terms of practical applications, this does seem very one-to-one. | ||
| Unless, I guess, there's a possibility that these space people, they just talk about Earth as the West. | ||
| Eh, that's possible. | ||
| Maybe we're the West of the galaxy. | ||
| Eh, maybe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Anyway, I get strong metaphorical vibes. | ||
| I'm getting some metaphorical vibes here. | ||
| So Berg managed to win over Squatch because of their shared sort of similarities and heritage, and then also humor. | ||
| I had to do a lot to gain Squatch's trust. | ||
| A lot of it was involving humor. | ||
| You know, that was really what worked in order for Squatch, because Squatch is a sapient being. | ||
| In order for Squatch to really let me in to his mind, I first had to get to Squatch's heart, and I got to Squatch's heart with humor. | ||
| Can I tell you what I did? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| To make Squatch laugh? | ||
| Please. | ||
| Yeah, please. | ||
| Please. | ||
| I wore a gorilla mask. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I was expecting more. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Well, laughter as his species would produce it. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Gorilla Mask. | ||
| I was hoping for a little bit more out of that. | ||
| But that is great, too, because it's not overselling it. | ||
| You're not gilding the lily here. | ||
| You're right, you're right, but I mean, it would have been nice if he was like, listen, Squatch, let me introduce you to Jonathan Winters. | ||
| You're gonna fucking love this guy. | ||
| He does all the voices! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| You go Robin Williams, because he's pretty hairy. | ||
| Well, and he's already charmed one sapient ape, so there we go. | ||
| So, like, the... | ||
| I find this incredibly charming, but also there's a piece of it that's a little bit weird, and that is that your first instinct is to put on a gorilla mask when you're trying to talk to a Sasquatch. | ||
| That's just... | ||
| How do you not think that that's offensive? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It does seem like you're... | ||
| Does this mean that Sasquatch has an edgy sense of humor? | ||
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I mean, yeah. | |
| Is that what we're doing? | ||
| Is he doing ape faces? | ||
| Is that what's happening? | ||
| Is he Al Jolson-ing the Squatch? | ||
| I was worried about that a little bit. | ||
| But hey, I got into Squatch's heart. | ||
| So there's not many female Squatches on Earth, apparently. | ||
| Mostly males. | ||
| And as Berg explains, this is probably just a coincidence based on the ship that landed here. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Because there are probably Squatches all over the place as refugees scattered throughout the universe. | ||
| And so there's not many women Squatches here. | ||
| Mostly men. | ||
| And I don't know what to make of this. | ||
| Now, they have an interesting social structure. | ||
| The females are sedentary, and there are relatively few females on Earth. | ||
| This isn't their natural setup. | ||
| This is more just because they're refugees. | ||
| This is who happens to land here. | ||
| So there are about 40 adult males to every one adult female. | ||
| The males are nomadic. | ||
| They roam. | ||
| They work odd jobs. | ||
| They train and barter. | ||
| What? | ||
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What? | |
| I'll fix your car for a burger. | ||
| But how did they land here? | ||
| I think you say they borrowed a spaceship or something? | ||
| Over the years, they've acquired many ships from various alien civilizations. | ||
| So they don't have their own, like, indigenously designed fleet. | ||
| They do have a number of advanced spacecraft that they keep hidden using cloaking devices. | ||
| Yeah, so apparently some of the younger Squatches are passable as humans. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because if they shave... | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're humanoid, and they're only, like, seven feet tall for the first few hundred years. | ||
| That's no big deal. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's within the realm of, like, tall person. | ||
| I mean, you look up, and you're like, oh, do you play basketball? | ||
| And they're a little insulted, and then you know they're human. | ||
| And then they want to fix your car. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| They need a burger. | ||
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So, yeah, they do odd jobs. | |
| Apparently, like, in, you know, like, if there was a Squatch planet or whatever, this wouldn't be the way they necessarily organize society. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In the same way, There's a discussion later about how, like, they don't build anything here, but they probably would if they had their own place. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Whereas now they're more sedentary. | ||
| I'm sorry, they're more in the woods than what have you. | ||
| A lot of them are. | ||
| And then the ones that want to go into human society and do odd jobs and stuff, they live in studio apartments. | ||
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Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. | |
| Yep, yep. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| And I'm just spitballing here. | ||
| Do they have a rum springer? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Squatch springer? | ||
| Squatch springer, yeah. | ||
| Like, what kind of escape from squatches? | ||
| I would assume that some of these squatches don't want to return to the forest. | ||
| Sure, but here's the problem. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| If you're gonna go and explore what it's like to be in human society, you gotta shave. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| And that's gonna take a while to grow back. | ||
| Considering that both of us are fully unshaven, I think that does make sense. | ||
| It's gonna take a while for Squatch to grow it all back. | ||
| So, obviously, there's some questions about how the fuck did you sneak a Sasquatch out of a military base? | ||
| What are we talking about here? | ||
| Was there gunfire? | ||
| Did you trick somebody? | ||
| Well... | ||
| You can't really talk about it. | ||
| How did you escape from the U.S.? | ||
| Were you assisted by other soldiers? | ||
| So this is where we're edging up on things I can't directly comment on. | ||
| I can say that I committed what could be considered crimes. | ||
| Where? | ||
| Now, the issue with... | ||
| Being charged with anything is that they would have to acknowledge my unit exists. | ||
| They would have to acknowledge that Swatch exists. | ||
| Good point. | ||
| So because they can't afford to blow that cover up, they can't actually proceed with any kind of formal extradition. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is why people who are involved in these clandestine things get assassinated. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's why. | ||
| That's the mythology behind that. | ||
| They don't just be like, shit, there's nothing we can do. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| I can't formally request Israel turn over the Squatch Thief. | ||
| He's got us. | ||
| And as we all know, there's no way for anybody in Israel to suddenly find out where you are and then murder you. | ||
| That doesn't sound like it happens. | ||
| No, I want... | ||
| I obviously understand that he can't get into the details. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| Because it's a lot of crimes. | ||
| But how do you steal a squash? | ||
| You'd have to kill at least a couple people, right? | ||
| I mean, there's got to be pretty heavy security. | ||
| Throw this out there. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| There was a whole group of people who had come to understand and love the Squatch. | ||
| Well, there was. | ||
| The entire Black Kraken group. | ||
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Right. | |
| Maybe they convinced some of the other people, or they could have used telepathy of some sort to convince them to continue helping them, but it's entirely possible that everyone would have compassionately helped the Squatch escape. | ||
| Hear me out on this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The ships that the Squatch has are cloakable. | ||
| Maybe that technology exists. | ||
| Why can't you put it on a little shirt? | ||
| Then Squatch just tiptoes out. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Put him under his sheet! | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Let's go! | ||
| Get out of here, Squatch! | ||
| Just walk right out. | ||
| We don't want you here! | ||
| Get out of here! | ||
| So you've probably been able to tell by this point, but Berg has a connection with Squatch. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And it is an emotional connection. | ||
| He cares about this Squatch. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Don't tell me that it goes any further than that. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Thank you that we're not going to get really weird. | ||
| No, but this is poetic as hell. | ||
| Looking at Squatch was almost like looking at a missing link. | ||
| But not just a missing link connecting us to our past. | ||
| It was a missing link connecting us to our past and also to the stars and to our future. | ||
| Deep. | ||
| The initial communication flourished into something... | ||
| I describe it as emotional. | ||
| I have developed an affinity for the Squatch. | ||
| I have come to recognize traces in myself on an order Like a starseed. | ||
| So, like the Pleiadians have starseed connections, they have been active in the evolution of life on multiple worlds. | ||
| So, in an intimate way, was the Squatch. | ||
| So, in an intimate way, was The Squatch. | ||
| That really does have the ring of a fucking documentary behind it. | ||
| Richard Attenborough's The Squatch. | ||
| The Squatch is a missing link, not just to the past, but to the stars and to our future. | ||
| That is wildly poetic. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| This guy's got the goods. | ||
| He really is delivering. | ||
| I'm going to be heartbroken if we find out later that he's some kind of a real asshole. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, that's going to be brutal. | ||
| That is going to be really brutal because this performance is outstanding. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| So now we have... | ||
| We are all the Squatch. | ||
| We are all. | ||
| I love the Squatch. | ||
| I am the Squatch. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| We learn of a new alien. | ||
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Oh. | |
| What animal do you think this alien is similar to? | ||
| God, I want it to be a kangaroo, because that would really be full circle. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Thematically, it would be appropriate. | ||
| It would be appropriate, but it's not a kangaroo. | ||
| It's not a kangaroo. | ||
| It is not a placental mammal. | ||
| Okay, let's go. | ||
| I really feel like we need an octopus or mollusk type alien, right? | ||
| You're not too far off. | ||
| I've learned of very intriguing, diverse life forms that would have been represented on ancient Mars. | ||
| In its cosmopolitan days, I'm aware of a cuttlefish-like species that lives on gas giants in the atmospheres of gas giants, and they are controlled by a benevolent AI. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Well, it is also said that the Draco are actually controlled by an AI. | ||
| But theirs is not benevolent. | ||
| And that's an understatement, but yes. | ||
| You can say that again. | ||
| Wow, that is like a really cute exchange. | ||
| I don't know how to... | ||
| It's winning her over. | ||
| I know, it does feel like maybe these people are so easily influenced, you just have to make up a less evil space idea, and then they'll just be like, yeah, that sounds right. | ||
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It's possible, but that's the trick. | |
| They're just so malleable, we need to lie to them in the right way, and it'll go away. | ||
| It might be a model for dealing with QAnon. | ||
| Maybe you create a conspiracy fun game kind of thing. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| But that leads to positive conclusions. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Let's chase the Squatch! | ||
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Metaphorically. | |
| I don't know, yeah. | ||
| There are no heroes for the Squatch, though. | ||
| Remember that. | ||
| We need to be the Squatch heroes! | ||
| In life, you can choose to be many things. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Be a bachelor, Squatch. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So, Carrie has a question to ask, and this has to do with, all right, so you're coming out and bringing this information out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Do you think that maybe you're being used to do that? | ||
| And then she completely loses track of the question and never gets back to it. | ||
| I was going to say, yeah, that doesn't make any sense, but okay. | ||
| Who is it in your group, or even outside your group, that has sort of orchestrated this interview in such a way that you can talk about this? | ||
| Which, it's been going on for several years, you know, and in a certain sense, you've become, or you could become, a kind of a political football, if people even acknowledge this interview in your existence. | ||
| That's a good way of putting it. | ||
| Oh, they will. | ||
| And so, there seems to be a reason for that, and one of the reasons that I can see, at least at this moment, because, you know, as you know, in the greater... | ||
| We have this kind of, you know, dark versus light drama being played out, especially in heightened terms within the United States. | ||
| And so, you know, it's an interesting, we call it playing the alien card, right? | ||
| It is a more local so-called alien species, if you want to call them. | ||
| They may not like the term alien, but let's call those local alien species because that's what the conventional person watching this might think of that. | ||
| They're not going to think of... | ||
| They probably, and I know... | ||
| Oh, I'm tired of all this political correctness. | ||
| ...sasquatch as an alien species. | ||
| No, no, they think he's the missing link. | ||
| Yeah, or, you know, but they also think they're, you know, very few and far between. | ||
| They don't think of them as a whole population coming from another, you know, coming from outer space, other planets that they, you know, had to leave. | ||
| She gets completely sidetracked from her political football question into, like, how other people can't conceive of aliens coming from another planet. | ||
| Yeah, like, sure, fine, okay. | ||
| Everyone wants to think that Squatch is just an ape. | ||
| Man. | ||
| You know, I feel like this guy's really underselling how important the overmind is and the fact that he was able to tap into it. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| Because if he can tap into it, that would suggest that just about anybody could tap into it. | ||
| And if we could all tap into it, then we're all the Squatch overmind. | ||
| You're tapping into that right now. | ||
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Oh, shit! | |
| Because that's what the next clip gets into. | ||
| You're on some psychic shit today. | ||
| I am squatching. | ||
| You might be Daniel Jordan. | ||
| Did you smoke that stone pipe? | ||
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Okay, fine. | |
| That is what happened. | ||
| So, on this tip, what's going on is that Carrie is asking, all right, so you can connect to the Squatch over mine. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You connect to other people who are telepathic through, like, can you be a conduit through which you could access the Squatch mind? | ||
| Why wouldn't you ask, can you teach me how to access the Squatch mind? | ||
| Well, it's a lot of work. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| She can already remote view, and she doesn't need that extra power. | ||
| Okay, now I want to ask you a strange question, but I'm sure you can handle it. | ||
| So, you've been in touch with this... | ||
| Overmind of the Sasquatch. | ||
| And in so doing, do you feel that you have therefore, you know, kind of like you've traveled in that mind space so you can converse in that mind space because you at least can, you know, learn things there, you said, about their history, etc., right? | ||
| And I assume perhaps you can send and receive signals to individuals within that mind space? | ||
| Squatch can. | ||
| I've been able to do that, but not consistently. | ||
| I'm still learning. | ||
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All right. | |
| And so that in a certain way, let's say I'm talking to you, and let's say you're in telepathic communication with another human. | ||
| Not necessarily me, but anyone who you're even close to somebody and yet you're telepathic with. | ||
| Because once you're telepathic, you know, it's sort of a natural inclination to try to be telepathic with anyone you have an affinity for, let's say, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So if you did that, would they be able to then tap into this overmind through you? | ||
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It's entirely possible. | |
| It's one of those situations where they have to know what they're looking for. | ||
| It's a little bit like with Target in remote viewing. | ||
| They have to have a target. | ||
| So, I don't understand exactly what that means. | ||
| No, me neither. | ||
| But I get the big picture of what is being asked. | ||
| I think that's fairly clear. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But here's what's weird. | ||
| I thought for sure that what Carrie was asking is, can you get me into the club? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Basically, I am telepathic. | ||
| I'm psychic. | ||
| Can you vouch for me to get into the Overmind? | ||
| You connect to it. | ||
| I'll connect through you. | ||
| She's asking for a conference call. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| To the Overmind. | ||
| That's what I thought. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I was wrong. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Because this question has a second stage to it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And Carrie's actually a little bit suspicious. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, what if that... | ||
| What if that... | ||
| You know, that mind wanted to send a message. | ||
| They could send it, in theory, they could use you as a carrier to then send it telepathically to other humans. | ||
| Isn't that possible? | ||
| They could, and I might not even know that that is what's happening. | ||
| Oh shit, I got squashed. | ||
| And so, even setting this up, let's say, this interview, isn't it possible that that's what happened? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| It's entirely possible. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I have to. | ||
| I am a scientist, so I have to admit the possibility. | ||
| It's plausible. | ||
| It works as a hypothesis. | ||
| So that's some great dissembling right there. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| That is great. | ||
| He was thrown for a loop, and then he's like, you know what? | ||
| Let's give it a try! | ||
| I love that. | ||
| Well, it's... | ||
| I don't know if it's an indication of really good improv chops or somebody who actually sincerely believes this or whatever, but that question being thrown to you and being like, hey, yeah, you know what it is? | ||
| Maybe that is what's happening. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That, to me, doesn't seem like somebody who's a complete liar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like someone who's trying to pull a fast one. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| This is, at the very least, not a grift. | ||
| Right, because you would definitely say no. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is definitely not what's happening. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| I am not being used as an unwitting conduit for Squatch to get a message out over your show. | ||
| Part of all of these characters is at least a level of narcissism that has them being within that, like, dominator role. | ||
| Right, and he's already been asked, like, can you send messages or pings on the over my... | ||
| I'm still... | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I'm trying to. | ||
| There's a humility. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| No, this is an interesting thing. | ||
| It's bizarre. | ||
| If you can contact the Overmind, I'm down. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I'm down for it. | ||
| If somebody could get me out in the woods with Squatch, I'm down with that. | ||
| I'm down for that. | ||
| I don't want to see Squatch. | ||
| I just want to be in the woods, actually. | ||
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I want to sass Squatch. | |
| You know what? | ||
| I don't even need Squatch. | ||
| I'll just go to the woods. | ||
| Yeah, that's probably a better idea. | ||
| So look, Carrie is concerned. | ||
| And the reason is because this overmind could be theoretically infiltrated. | ||
| Now, where is Squatch? | ||
| That is my first concern as well, Dan. | ||
| Where is Squatch? | ||
| Israel. | ||
| The Anunnaki are in Israel. | ||
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Oh, no! | |
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Are they going to turn the Overmind evil? | ||
| See, this is what we've got to be worried about. | ||
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Now I am worried. | |
| This took such a turn from me thinking it's just like, ah, Carrie wanting to get in there herself. | ||
| Now it's like... | ||
| This is a national defense issue. | ||
| We need to destroy the Overmind before the enemy infiltrates it. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Okay, then let me ask you another question about this sort of thing. | ||
| I did ask you off the record this as well. | ||
| Is Squatch in touch telepathically with the Anunnaki? | ||
| And I think you said no. | ||
| The answer is no, but that is more by choice. | ||
| The Overmind can't... | ||
| Work against your will. | ||
| The Overmind can influence you, but it can't make you or any individual in it do something against their will. | ||
| So it's not like the Anunnaki can invade the Overmind. | ||
| They can't just force their way. | ||
| Through it. | ||
| They can't brute force it. | ||
| Squatch would have to let them in like Squatch let me in. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm relieved. | ||
| I love the Squatch. | ||
| I think so far they've got things pretty well figured out. | ||
| Question answered. | ||
| I am no longer worried about brute force attacks from the Anunnaki. | ||
| Yeah, now that I know that the Squatch is over, Mind is, I mean, unbreakable. | ||
| But Carrie still has some concerns, and one of the big ones is, hey, my buddies tell me about all the help that other alien races are giving to us. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There's so many technologies and secrets of the world that the raptors are giving Mark Richards and what have you. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But that's not the case with the Squatch. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why isn't the Squatch helping us? | ||
| Well, the Squatch is living in peace and harmony with the fucking environment. | ||
| Why do you think they're not helping us? | ||
| Why do you think they're not helping us? | ||
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They're working on cars to get burgers! | |
| And actually, I think Berg has a great answer. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| They haven't been able to... | ||
| The humans haven't been able to develop a kind of species-to-species working relationship in which they might... | ||
| We have. | ||
| They're very rare, but they do work out. | ||
| There are humans who are aware of what they are. | ||
| They've worked out little barter systems and trade deals, labor, fish goods. | ||
| I actually mean in a substantial way, such as Helping with our space exploration or things that they might actually know about because of their longevity. | ||
| Also, they could be like, I don't know, ET human interpreters. | ||
| There's lots of interactions that they could benefit our world with. | ||
| Also, having to do with educating, I don't know, the United Nations, unfortunately, what it's conceived of. | ||
| But you know what I mean? | ||
| Historically, they did try to do that. | ||
| What? | ||
| There have been times in their past when they have done that on other planets, when they tried to share the benefit of their experience and their wisdom with other planets, but it always seemed to backfire because of the xenophobia. | ||
| The hatred against them, you know, the fear of them, their otherness, you know, and being different from Pleiadians and different from Dracos, you know, was always held against them no matter how they contributed to the planets where they lived. | ||
| So on Earth now, they're much more cautious, so they're much rarer. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Once bitten, twice shy. | ||
| I mean, you know what? | ||
| It's hard not to say that if your answer to that question is just space racism, you're dead on. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| Space racism. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Fuck you! | ||
| Why would they help you? | ||
| You captured him, kept him in a fucking military base. | ||
| I'm not helping shit! | ||
| No. | ||
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I'm a Squatch! | |
| You had to be jailbraked and taken across the world into a bunker. | ||
| Why would I... | ||
| Don't bother with the human race, you morons! | ||
| Yeah, and they've been burned before, which makes sense why you'd be cautious. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And, you know, he makes it clear that, you know, as more people, the Squatch is able to trust more people, you know, there may be benefits that are accrued in terms of these things that Carrie's asking about. | ||
| But you're asking too much of the Squatch right now. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| To be in a world where most of the time, aliens are thinly veiled ways to attack the Jews, and in this circumstance, aliens are a thinly veiled way to explain the Jews' experience with racism as they've gone through the history of the world. | ||
| You can take it on that level, and then you can also just take it on another level that is these aliens, the Squatch, is being used as a... | ||
| Entry point in a way to understand othering. | ||
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Right. | |
| In a way to understand the experience of people who are unlike you and teaching empathy and teaching solidarity. | ||
| You might as well have been like, hey, Carrie, maybe if we change our attitudes towards the overmind, then we will have earned help. | ||
| As opposed to you just being like, why can't we just capture them and steal their shit? | ||
| Yeah, we demand help to prove that they're not evil aliens. | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| You don't even own the Earth! | ||
| Right. | ||
| So we have a couple clips left, and this also is just kind of... | ||
| I feel like this clip is a good summation of the sort of mentality that's being presented here. | ||
| Is there any questions or statements that you haven't made that you would like to make on his behalf at this time? | ||
| No, just that we are both very grateful for the opportunity to present our side of the story and hopefully bring a little light and nuance into this whole complex situation with Dracos and Pleiadians, because I think, you know, some of the reporting I've seen elsewhere on that has been very kind of one-sided, moralistic, good and evil. | ||
| From an hour ago. | ||
| I don't know about you, but I like the complex storytelling. | ||
| I like the fact that the antagonists in Star Trek were never really villains. | ||
| That's kind of the way I try to see the world. | ||
| People may be antagonistic to us, but ultimately we're all sentient beings. | ||
| We all just want life and dignity and freedom. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No! | ||
| Aliens don't want that! | ||
| No! | ||
| No! | ||
| Good V Evil! | ||
| You see these lizard aliens and you think, like, oh, they're all just uniformly evil. | ||
| No, we're all just sentient beings, man. | ||
| We're all just sentient beings, man. | ||
| We're just trying to get by. | ||
| I really think that it should not have taken us this long to get that very simple message out on Project Camelot. | ||
| How many episodes have we done about Project Camelot and not at one point has somebody been like, you know, there are civilians in all species everywhere just trying to live a good life? | ||
| It's a very foreign concept to the episodes I've listened to, for sure. | ||
| Bananas. | ||
| I also, I am so, I am much like the Squatch in terms of I've been burned before and I'm so scared of being positive about this guy. | ||
| I know, I know. | ||
| This is so scary. | ||
| We can't ever have anything nice. | ||
| Yeah, but he seems like he's a... | ||
| A guest unlike any that I've heard on the old Camelot. | ||
| And here is maybe a possible reason why. | ||
| This last clip, I don't understand how he... | ||
| This is baffling. | ||
| I will also say that when I was six years old, E.T. was my absolute favorite movie. | ||
| My grandfather bought me the VHS cassette. | ||
| It was the one that had green plastic on it. | ||
| I must have worn that cassette out watching it 200 times. | ||
| All right, so you already had that, you know, sort of abilities. | ||
| Your abilities were sort of really why you became what you became in a sense. | ||
| You already had the abilities, right? | ||
| Well, all of us have the abilities. | ||
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I know, but some of you have it in predominantly... | |
| I would say I have a curious mind and I had a predisposition toward... | ||
| Empathizing with the other. | ||
| Trying to understand beings that were different from me. | ||
| I was always very fond of animals. | ||
| I was always very active in a lot of progressive justice causes. | ||
| I've always been a passionate advocate for people. | ||
| I joined the military because I wanted to be part of something bigger than myself and genuinely help people in need. | ||
| I've always sort of seen my role here as being of service to others. | ||
| You can kind of feel that. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That kind of comes out in his conception of the alien universe. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| There is a helpfulness, there is a caring, there is a progressive justice feeling to it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| He comes at this from the perspective of caring about these aliens, let's say. | ||
| Whereas so many other of these people are like... | ||
| Their focus seems to be on weird political intrigue among these aliens and battles and wars. | ||
| The relationship he has with battles and space battles is that he went to Mars and found a pipe that some soldier had thrown out years and years and years ago. | ||
| And honestly, that's a very exciting thing. | ||
| To me, that would be way more exciting than any kind of space battle. | ||
| Yeah, he's trying to learn from the aftermath of a war as opposed to being involved in it like Mark Richards is flying Minerva through... | ||
| Yeah, Forrest gumping his way through the goddamn space world. | ||
| Right, like he's got the Millennium Falcon through the space battle. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, and I think that that is a really fundamental difference about... | ||
| How you relate to the topics that you're talking about. | ||
| It is funny because there is a current movement among historians to reevaluate a lot of these narratives that we've been constantly hitting and whether or not any of this bullshit actually even makes any fucking sense that was written a few hundred years ago by white men with a lot of axes to grind. | ||
| And it seems like this is such a very similar idea of reimagining space history in a way that's not... | ||
| White male dominated. | ||
| It's just, that's what it is. | ||
| It doesn't paint the Pleiadians as the absolute heroes. | ||
| Like, sure, they're lightworkers and maybe they're the good guys, per se. | ||
| But they're still expansionist. | ||
| They still displaced the poor Squatch. | ||
| They fucking enslaved the Squatch! | ||
| The Squatch has no heroes! | ||
| The Squatch has no heroes! | ||
| That is my rallying cry! | ||
| That is what I will shout from the rooftops! | ||
| That might be my next tattoo. | ||
| The Squatch have no heroes! | ||
| Well, it's my birthday present. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| I mean, there's something really refreshing about this, and I wanted to cleanse the palates of things, and on the off chance that Trump does announce his candidacy on July 4th. | ||
| Well, what are you going to do? | ||
| You'll have something nice to listen to. | ||
| Yeah, at least you get to enjoy a non-racist alien conversation about Squatch. | ||
| What a fantastic journey. | ||
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That was great. | |
| This guy better not be a piece of shit. | ||
| Please don't. | ||
| Please? | ||
| Please just don't. | ||
| Let us have one. | ||
| And if you are, just run away, erase your name from the internet, and just let us all believe. | ||
| And the good news is, too, he seems open to coming back, and Carrie will obviously have him back, so we could have a new Mark Richards on our hands, who's a positive influence. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| But here's the other thing that I think is really strange, is how much can he possibly know about Carrie? | ||
| Because he's coming in with this, like, I've always been a passionate defender of, like, Progressive social causes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And justice movement and stuff like that carries fucking straight up QAnon and beyond. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| So I don't understand how... | ||
| And there's the name Daniel Jordan. | ||
| I think it still could be a coincidence. | ||
| It definitely could. | ||
| But there is an outside possibility that it is a prank. | ||
| It definitely could be a coincidence, but I'll be goddamned if that's not a fucking big coincidence. | ||
| It's pretty big. | ||
| It's sizable. | ||
| But it's worth it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Even if it is a prank, then the prank is disseminating a positive message within the world of Carrie's alien nonsense. | ||
| I mean, I would have no problem... | ||
| Platforming this prank. | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| I had a great time with it. | ||
| And I hope you all did too. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And we'll be back. | ||
| Join the overmind. | ||
| For something less delightful. | ||
| No, very much less delightful. | ||
| On Wednesday. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| We do have a website. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
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Yep. | |
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Maybe I'll throw this in. | ||
| I'm Chrysalix. | ||
| Ooh! | ||
| No, I'm not. | ||
| He was a bad guy. | ||
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Oh, that's right. | |
| I hope you all have a wonderful, dreamy, creamy summer. | ||
| And now, here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |