Alex's Breaky Minisode
Alex has been out of the studio since June 6, so Dan and Jordan check in with a few of his call-ins to the show during his work-cation, while the world awaits his return to Occupied Texas.
June 17, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
|
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Alex, I'm a first time caller. | |
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your world. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| KnowledgeFight.com I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan! | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, bud? | ||
| You go first. | ||
| I have a... | ||
| I got a double bright spot, my friend. | ||
| I got a rare double bright spot. | ||
| Unprecedented. | ||
| By my partner, Summer. | ||
| School is out, my friend. | ||
| Summer vacation. | ||
| School's out for summer. | ||
| Forever. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And then at the same time, we just discovered a new show that's old called For All Mankind. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| It's alternate history. | ||
| What if Russia won the space race to the moon? | ||
| Sort of like a man in the high castle. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But with the moon. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And it's fucking great. | ||
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Sweet. | |
| I want to be an astronaut so bad. | ||
| Well, it's not too late. | ||
| No, it is. | ||
| They told me my eyes were too bad. | ||
| It's probably too late. | ||
| They haven't gotten better in the intervening time period. | ||
| I feel like you're just going to need to wait until it's really normal to go to space, and then you could be a space cowboy type of guy, just going up there, a ruffian in space. | ||
| That'll be pretty cool. | ||
| I'll be a bounty hunter. | ||
| I'm going to be a bounty hunter, for sure. | ||
| Yeah, I see that. | ||
| You're a fet. | ||
| I'm going to have to learn Jeet Kune Do. | ||
| Something about Mandalorian, right? | ||
| No, I'm thinking Spike Spiegel, my man. | ||
| Cowboy Bebop. | ||
| That's the way to do it. | ||
| I don't have any references. | ||
| I'm not cool enough to be... | ||
| I could be Jet, though. | ||
| I can cook. | ||
| I'm tall. | ||
| Those are my qualities. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Bad eyes, tall. | ||
| I can cook. | ||
| Let's get you to space. | ||
| Send me up there. | ||
| I guess I wish you the best of that. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| And what's your bright spot, buddy? | ||
| My bright spot, actually, is that I've got... | ||
| A trip to St. Louis planned in the near future. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I get to go. | ||
| My mutual friend, somebody we knew from our stand-up days, is getting married. | ||
| And destination wedding, as it were, to St. Louis. | ||
| It'd be nice to be back in Missouri. | ||
| My buddy Nicky Gifts lives there, so I'll be able to see some of the old posse. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So yeah, I'm looking forward to that. | ||
| Yeah, that'll be great. | ||
| Yeah, it'll be a good time. | ||
| Yeah, weddings. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Weddings. | ||
| I was going to say this as a bright spot, but I'm going to put it in as a sort of an addendum. | ||
| It is not a bright spot. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So the dreamy, creamy summer is going on, as we all know. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And I have been trying. | ||
| Some creams. | ||
| Some of them have been dreamy. | ||
| Some of them have been... | ||
| So dreamy creamy. | ||
| But I have to say, Jenny's ice cream is being treated by everybody as like, this is such great ice cream. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's high level. | ||
| Everyone loves it. | ||
| And I've got to say, the price tag would lead you to believe that it is the best. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I got Boston cream pie, Jenny's flavor. | ||
| And look. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No shade on Jenny. | ||
| She's great. | ||
| I'm sure she is. | ||
| I gotta say, the fudge is really hyped up on the packaging. | ||
| It says, like, we got this great fudge. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| It is fucking Hershey's syrup. | ||
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It is. | |
| It is not. | ||
| You're not joking. | ||
| It is not fudge. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| It tastes exactly like Hershey's syrup. | ||
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Nope. | |
| That's something you get in a bottle and you pour into your mouth when you're high. | ||
| Listen, here's my problem with all ice creams. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| All right. | ||
| Can make that many flavors, alright? | ||
| You can't do it. | ||
| You know it's not just Jenny. | ||
| I understand it's not just Jenny, but an entity, a hive mind, if you will, can only create so many flavors. | ||
| Baskin-Robbins did not have 126 flavors. | ||
| They had the correct amount, 31. That is the maximum that can be made, one for each of the most days of a month. | ||
| I have to say, if I can be frank, I would say that I don't think Boston Green Pie is like... | ||
| Number one, an innovative flavor. | ||
| Nor do I think it's that difficult to emulate. | ||
| It's got custard, which is already kind of in the ice cream family. | ||
| It's basically ice cream, yeah. | ||
| And then chocolate. | ||
| You've just got to nail that chocolate somehow. | ||
| And for that price, I am looking for a little more than Hershey's syrup, Jenny. | ||
| You realize it's not just Jenny, right? | ||
| No, it is. | ||
| But it was actually not too bad. | ||
| No, of course. | ||
| I just felt like a little bit short-changed. | ||
| There's nothing fun about saying something is okay. | ||
| It could have been better. | ||
| No, but it could have. | ||
| It could have! | ||
| If it wasn't fucking Hershey syrup. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we've got an episode in front of us. | ||
| It's going to be a little mini-sode, I suppose. | ||
| We'll see what that ends up. | ||
| Entailing. | ||
| But the situation, we'll get into here in a moment, but first, I wanted to just give a little bit of a sort of context and maybe a little bit of an apology, because I did get some feedback about this, and you know, you gotta assume if people... | ||
| are reaching out, then more people may have felt this way. | ||
| I want to just say, hey, sorry that we did not give more of a point to Mike Tyson's history of I know that it's not your responsibility, Jordan, to bring things up. | ||
| You are more of a responding person. | ||
| So this falls more on me. | ||
| And the reason that I didn't include more of it as a point to bring up is... | ||
| I really thought that we talked about it before in the past. | ||
| I'm pretty sure we had. | ||
| In more detail. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that might be a misconception on my part or whatever, but I felt like it would be sort of redundant. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And my... | ||
| My perceptions may be off on that. | ||
| And to the extent that it felt like we were just given short shrift to that, I apologize. | ||
| I don't want that to be the perception that, hey, his awful history isn't a big deal. | ||
| Yeah, we're not minimizing it, nor did we forget. | ||
| Which is, yeah, I suppose is the best you can put it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So today, the situation we have in front of us is trouble. | ||
| Trouble. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Alex has been out of studio since June 6th. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| He has been on vacation, or a work-cation, as he is known to put it. | ||
| And, you know, there's a lot of stuff that's been going on that I think bears... | ||
| His response. | ||
| I'm interested where he's at about these things from the Proud Boys being indicted for a seditious conspiracy and the fact that there is video of... | ||
| Enrique Tarrio, the leader of the Proud Boys, meeting in the basement of a parking garage with Stuart Rhodes, the head of the Oath Keepers. | ||
| Two groups who are being charged with seditious conspiracy meeting in a clandestine location. | ||
| They work together. | ||
| Conspiratorily a little. | ||
| I'm curious about his take on some of that. | ||
| His absence might be a little glaring, even. | ||
| CNN apparently ran that documentary about Alex that, you know, curious. | ||
| What his thoughts are on that. | ||
| Joe Biggs apparently hired Norm Pattis as his lawyer. | ||
| Curious what Alex thinks about that. | ||
| He's got stuff to say there. | ||
| I was thinking about this, and if I were Alex, I would have fired Norm immediately. | ||
| If he was going to represent Joe Biggs in the seditious conspiracy trial, because... | ||
| It provides too close of a link. | ||
| I mean, how? | ||
| Could you be like, well, of course we share the same lawyer, but I've never met this guy before and he worked for me. | ||
| I'm like, no. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| I would be like, no, you cannot represent Joe Biggs. | ||
| Yeah, it really must mean that the pool is that shallow, though. | ||
| The pool has to be that shallow, which is almost reassuring. | ||
| If you can't... | ||
| Afford to fire Norm Pattis? | ||
| That means there aren't that many options. | ||
| Or, conversely, Alex got Joe Biggs a lawyer. | ||
| That is also possible. | ||
| Because otherwise, Joe might say something. | ||
| I don't know, but it has the appearance of rank shadiness. | ||
| That would be like if in The Wire, you know how the cartel, they had that huge lawyer who was real shady, but he was also slick and really good at his job. | ||
| If they had literally Foghorn Leghorn as the cartels... | ||
| It's like, oh, don't worry, you're gonna do five, but we got a good lawyer for you. | ||
| I'll say the Proud Boys did nothing wrong, now you're here. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Why are you hiring him? | ||
| Also, like, you know, it would probably look even worse if, and thank God this isn't the case, if Alex didn't publicly join the Proud Boys. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That would be a problem. | ||
| Uh-oh, there was that time. | ||
| Oh, no, that time that he did that. | ||
| That Evan McGinnis initiated him live on the show. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| Oh, that almost looks bad in retrospect. | ||
| Yeah, all of this. | ||
| Anyway, the issue is he hasn't been in studio, so we don't have any episodes where he goes into talking about these things. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And on the time since he's been on, he's called in, and there have been some little snippets, and we're gonna go over a little bit of that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But it doesn't merit a full episode, and also, when Alex is on the phone or doing these pre-records... | ||
| It's not really that interesting. | ||
| No. | ||
| Because he's going to just hit kind of standard talking points, and he knows, like, wow, I gotta do about a tight ten here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not like when he has to fill three hours, and there's, like, plenty of time for him to expound on dumb thoughts. | ||
| He needs to be able to have freewheeling, dumb-dumb explosions of improv. | ||
| He can't be held into a small container. | ||
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No. | |
| It's just... | ||
| As a performer, he demands... | ||
| He needs to be able to explore the space. | ||
| Absolutely! | ||
| And yeah, so it's... | ||
| Kind of a bummer. | ||
| On the 7th, there's no call in. | ||
| No call in. | ||
| He doesn't call in on the 7th. | ||
| The 8th comes along and Alex calls in to agitate about a migrant caravan, apparently. | ||
| What? | ||
| There's another one? | ||
| Well, there's a midterm coming up, so there's a migrant caravan. | ||
| Where is he? | ||
| Where is he that he's catching migrant caravans? | ||
| But it's mostly just an excuse to be like... | ||
| And then the economy will collapse, and that's why you've got to buy my survival food. | ||
| So that's basically what's going on. | ||
| And nothing really interesting happens until the 10th. | ||
| And the 10th is the day after the first January 6th committee hearing. | ||
| And so Owen is hosting, and here is him introducing a little phone conversation with Alex. | ||
| Just being in this historic moment, seeing where the Democrats are going, I don't know if there's ever been such an evil force in this country. | ||
| I don't know if the country has ever experienced the government being weaponized against the people like we're seeing right now. | ||
| I mean, how do we harness this energy for good? | ||
| How do we take these trying times and turn them into a positive for America, to unite the people, to bring people together back with love and a desire for freedom and prosperity? | ||
| Because I know it's there, Alex. | ||
| I know it's there. | ||
| When we hadn't talked before I came on the show here, that's exactly the point I was going to make, is that we're in a hot war, they're starting a civil war, they're a foreign political group, they are the globalist party, they are the Great Reset, Build Back Better organization, they are the New World Order. | ||
| That's really fucked up. | ||
| Words, words, words, words, words, words, words. | ||
| They're just, there's words, words, words. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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But like, you know, from doing this show. | |
| Oh, it's a hot war. | ||
| Well, from doing this show as long as we have, you know that periodically callers will ask Alex, when is it time to start shooting? | ||
| Yep. | ||
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When, and you see this at. | |
| Yep. | ||
| people will have this but they directly ask Alex. | ||
| You say we're always in a cold war. | ||
| What, when does it turn hot, Alex? | ||
| Well, apparently it's hot. | ||
| It's hot now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's an issue. | ||
| This is something that Alex just says is a throwaway. | ||
| It doesn't mean anything to him. | ||
| But to the right ear of his listeners, this has the potential for them to be like, this is Alex giving the sign. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Yeah, but they know he wouldn't do it like that. | ||
| It's got to be dramatic. | ||
| I mean, listen, you would not believe Alex was calling for it from a phoner. | ||
| Yeah, you would. | ||
| No way. | ||
| Because you would think maybe he's in a bunker. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's a good point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What's he doing in a bunker? | ||
| Hiding from the fucking hot war. | ||
| He's supposed to be fighting the hot war. | ||
| No, he's too important. | ||
| Oh, get out of here. | ||
| He is the figurehead of the Patriots. | ||
| Tip of the spear isn't in a bunker. | ||
| Yes, it is. | ||
| The spear's going down, then. | ||
| No, Alex has an underground armored redoubt where he can broadcast and get the message out to the Patriots. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Even if the whole grid goes down. | ||
| Alex Joe's InfoWars Pirate Underground post-apocalyptic radio would be the fucking worst. | ||
| I'd still listen. | ||
| Yes, you would. | ||
| We'd still do a show. | ||
| Just laughing about him recording in a book. | ||
| As our mutant limbs slowly grow longer. | ||
| Oh, God, that's grim. | ||
| But that is probably what I would do. | ||
| I don't have much use as a fighter. | ||
| I'm not there. | ||
| We know that your eyes aren't good. | ||
| I'm not good at seeing. | ||
| I could get ambushed real easy in the dark. | ||
| You just have to offer them the food you cooked. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| So yeah, the January 6th committee comes up, and here's some of Alex's thoughts. | ||
| But I want to go back to last night. | ||
| There's some clips on Infowars.com. | ||
| We should probably play them after I leave, but Tucker Carlson knocked it out of the park where he just said, listen, they are framing the American people as terrorists, as their opposition as terrorists. | ||
| They are creating an authoritarian society, not just surveillance. | ||
| We have cases where just two weeks ago, the Antifa member that shot two random people in the middle of the street in Colorado, and the feds said, okay, and the judge said, no prison time. | ||
| So yeah, Alex is hanging his hat on that, bringing it up as a sort of a counter example or whatever, and we talked about that. | ||
| It was the situation where there were a car that was not slowing down, people were running out of the way, the guy ended up accidentally hitting two people, shooting them, and they both asked for restorative justice as opposed to jail time. | ||
| So it's not analogous. | ||
| At all. | ||
| And it's not worth using as an example for like, oh yeah, January 6th was so bad? | ||
| What about this? | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| What about that one guy from that one time way back over there in a small town? | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| As opposed to the capital of the United Goddamn States. | ||
| Yeah, where it appears that... | ||
| Some representatives were complicit in some stuff, and knowingly or not, perhaps, and there were multiple groups of real fucked up weirdos. | ||
| Right. | ||
| With plans, guns, zip ties. | ||
| Yeah, and some of them are Alex's friends, and some of them are long-time guests on Alex's show, and he's got to deal with that. | ||
| Like, for instance, they played a video of Stuart Rhodes and Alex in the hearing. | ||
| And Alex is like, I don't know. | ||
| I never even saw that. | ||
| And so I never heard Stuart Rhodes or I never heard those people talk about going into the Capitol. | ||
| I never saw any of that information. | ||
| We were all concerned that Antifa might attack us at our hotel. | ||
| You know, we had security for some of the events we had the days before. | ||
| We had big peaceful rallies with probably 500,000 people. | ||
| The biggest one weeks before January 6th. | ||
| Everybody knows that. | ||
| You know what we came there for? | ||
| To say, look, we got a million people Joe Biden can't fill, you know, a small parking lot at a Jeep dealership. | ||
| Yeah, maybe one of the reasons that Trump could draw these big crowds and Biden wasn't able to is because Trump's fan base thought that ignoring public health advice was a central tenant of their political ideology. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe that was a big part of it. | ||
| Yeah, that could have had something to do with it. | ||
| Yeah, also, this whole thing about, like, oh, we were afraid of Antifa at our hotels kind of rings hollow when, you know, that Owen Schroer was burning a Black Lives Matter flag outside his hotel the night before. | ||
| Well, that's because he was afraid of Antifa. | ||
| If you burn a Black Lives Matter flag, it's like, you know, like, mosquitoes can't get to the... | ||
| The smoke. | ||
| That's what he was thinking, you know, right? | ||
| I guess. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It makes perfect sense. | ||
| No. | ||
| Kind of just seems like bullshit. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| 100% lies that they made up that they were not absolutely afraid of at all. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because they knew Antifa wasn't going to be there because it doesn't even exist! | ||
| Alex saying, too, that I've never heard Stuart talk about going into the Capitol kind of implies that he's like... | ||
| Yeah, Stuart was talking about going into the Capitol. | ||
| I just didn't hear it. | ||
| Oh, so much. | ||
| So much. | ||
| Oh, but also I wonder if you heard Matt Bracken talk about it on InfoWars. | ||
| Oh, on the air? | ||
| Yeah, on December 31st. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Remember when we played that on the air? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Your buddy and guy who... | ||
| Mysterious isn't on anymore. | ||
| That's so strange. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I hope he's okay. | ||
| So look, people don't buy this shit about January 6th anymore. | ||
| This clip's a little bit longer because the direction it goes is not good. | ||
| And the American people are not buying the whole fraud that January 6th was the new Pearl Harbor, worse than 9-11, and all these preposterous asinine things that were said and done. | ||
| But the backdrop here is the white supremacist attack a month ago in Buffalo and the situation two weeks ago, or 16 days ago, 17 days ago in Uvalde. | ||
| That's the real issue. | ||
| If you look at the whole backdrop of both these stories, they don't add up. | ||
| They don't make sense. | ||
| You have the white supremacist, 18-year-old, mentally ill person, with the Fed in daily contact, constant contact, is what the FBI admits, for two years. | ||
| So you've got one hand of the FBI investigating the other hand of the Feds, and you've got all this going on. | ||
| And then you've got these Hollywood stars like Matthew McConaughey running around saying, let's take all the assault weapons, let's take all the rifles, and then magically his hometown gets attacked. | ||
| And then the police lie 40-plus times, change their story 18 times, and none of it adds up. | ||
| They were having all these drills at the school in the days and weeks before. | ||
| Now the police chief that ordered the standout won't talk to the state police or the FBI. | ||
| Was this on January 6th? | ||
| We know we're being lied to. | ||
| And all of this right on time is happening. | ||
| And so I've been saying for a year, right before the midterms, you're going to start seeing white supremacist attacks on black grocery stores. | ||
| Boom, that happened. | ||
| Boom, that happened. | ||
| And I'm not saying that the shooting didn't happen. | ||
| What I'm saying is that if you look at the anomalies and things, this thing has ten times the anomalies of Sandy Hook. | ||
| And no one can deny that. | ||
| So most of our listeners just think it didn't happen. | ||
| Well, I can't prove that. | ||
| All I'm saying is the season and the timing and it being McConaughey's town to make him this big hero as they prepare him to run for president later. | ||
| This is massive preparation, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Massive, massive, massive, massive evil going on. | ||
| That's Alex saying that it was staged. | ||
| Like, I don't know how else you can really interpret that. | ||
| You can interpret it as, vote Just Keep Livin' 2024. | ||
| That's what you can interpret it as. | ||
| He's running for president! | ||
| You heard it here first! | ||
| The McConaissance! | ||
| Ends in the White House! | ||
| Right, and we had the Michelle Obama Hillary ticket. | ||
| We're gonna do that. | ||
| We're gonna do that one. | ||
| Yeah, this is stupid. | ||
| That's amazingly stupid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Boy, this is probably not a good road to go down if you're Alex. | ||
| If there was a sci-fi technology that just removed two words from your brain, you would have to spend a lot of money to get Sandy Hook removed from his brain and save a billion dollars, right? | ||
| I mean, if you're him, yeah. | ||
| If you could eternal sunshine this? | ||
| Yeah, he can't not just bring up Sandy Hook. | ||
| Right, and I think that, you know, he says that there's ten times the number of anomalies with this as Sandy Hook. | ||
| And I know from... | ||
| Being in a deposition room with him, just talking about this stuff, that he doesn't know any anomalies about Sandy Hook. | ||
| Well, then he is making a completely accurate statement. | ||
| Well, ten times zero is zero. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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But, yeah, this is not good. | |
| Not good. | ||
| I mean, now is the time to be like, listen. | ||
| There were a lot of anomalies at Sandy Hook. | ||
| Why am I talking? | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| Why am I saying this? | ||
| Well, because you need to do something with the January 6th committee and talking about that hearing is probably not for the best. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you gotta put it in the context of this is all part of demonizing us in order to win the midterms. | ||
| A big part of that is also this Buffalo shooting and the Uvalde shooting. | ||
| And it's all the season, the planning. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, all that is just saying it was staged. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Yep. | ||
| Maybe not actors. | ||
| You know, people died. | ||
| Maybe it wasn't totally fake. | ||
| But yeah, this is bad. | ||
| I think this form of disinfo has got a... | ||
| Run its course eventually, right? | ||
| Like, it all sounds exactly the same. | ||
| The Russian disinfo, whenever MBS is like, no, we didn't kill Khashoggi. | ||
| Like, all the denials are so similar in just like this. | ||
| Absolutely didn't happen, and if it did happen, it wasn't that big a deal, but it didn't happen, and they're lying about it. | ||
| They're lying because they don't want you to talk about that thing that they did right there, and I definitely didn't kill Khashoggi. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Okay, well, I did it, but you can't do shit about it. | ||
| Like, it's the same way every guy you've talked about. | ||
| Every time! | ||
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Yes! | |
| It's the same! | ||
| It doesn't matter where it's coming from. | ||
| It's gotta be a fad, right? | ||
| If it's a fad, it's certainly got more legs than those snap bracelets. | ||
| Yeah, it's lasted a while. | ||
| Because I think it appeals to people's emotional want. | ||
| They want that denial. | ||
| And if people are willing to give it to them, they'll accept it. | ||
| Yeah, well, it's easier than admitting that you have participated in horrific violence against everybody. | ||
| Well, I think that Alex... | ||
| I still don't know that there's strong evidence that Alex knew anything about what people might have been doing on January 6th. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| And if that evidence does come out, I'm thrilled to see it and I will evaluate it then. | ||
| But... | ||
| If Alex were to take seriously the things that are known and have come out, whether it be from these indictments or the testimony and the things that we've heard from the commission, Alex would really have to do a little bit of soul-searching about why it is he promoted the Oath Keepers and Stuart Rhodes for as long as he did, | ||
| and as insistently as he did, even though Stuart Rhodes was constantly talking about wanting to shoot people and wanting there to be a situation where Trump would deputize him as the Sheriff of the United States. | ||
| Basically, a takeover for the Army. | ||
| That's what he wanted, yeah. | ||
| He'd have to wrestle with why he helped promote the Proud Boys and had Gavin McGinnis on in their earlier times and supported Rufio Pan Man and Based Stick Man and all of these people. | ||
| Like, he'd have to wrestle with the fact that there were these groups that were actively involved in planning to do what happened. | ||
| And he is a part of that constellation, whether he was knowingly involved in any of that planning or knew anything about it, or if he was just the loudest cheerleader and facilitator for these groups for the last decade. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Well, I mean, the thing that he's got going for him is not just that, but... | ||
| The time that he was like, listen, I'm not going to tell you my source. | ||
| Anyways, my source is Donald Trump Jr. | ||
| Once you know that that's going to happen, you just don't tell Alex that shit. | ||
| You don't tell Alex anything that he's going to say on air. | ||
| So that became a known quantity, I think, among that group. | ||
| I doubt he has anything that is... | ||
| I doubt they gave him any information that he could repeat. | ||
| Well, I think I said this before, and I think I feel... | ||
| I still feel this way until someone could provide any, like, real evidence. | ||
| But, like, I think that Alex would have behaved the exact same way he did on the 6th, whether or not he knew anything. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| You don't need to tell him of any plans. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| He's just a guy who's gonna try and incite a crowd and yell 1776 all the time. | ||
| So if you just plant him somewhere, he's going to do whatever he did. | ||
| Telling him the plan only gives him something to rage against. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, he would be a chaotic agent against your plan. | ||
| Whereas if he doesn't know the plan, he can be the chaotic agent that you want him to be. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think, I feel like strategically that would be in your best interest. | ||
| It makes sense. | ||
| Now, have these people acted in their best interests 100% of the time? | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| And they're also kind of dumb. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But yeah, the other thing Alex would have to wrestle with is the fact that Joe Biggs used to work at Infowars for quite a while. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And was involved in the conversations with the Proud Boys of, you know, planning and... | ||
| And all that senior leadership. | ||
| The moment you ask yourself the question, why are all of my friends Nazis? | ||
| There's really only two answers. | ||
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And you can say yes or no to one of them. | |
| Is it because I'm a Nazi? | ||
| Yes or no. | ||
| And I have bad news for that. | ||
| So, the next day is a little quiet on the show. | ||
| And we get to the 14th. | ||
| And this is where we hear a little bit more from Alex. | ||
| Infowars has been inundated in the last week with listeners and viewers asking, where is Alex Jones? | ||
| In fact, while I have been on a business-slash-vacation trip on the West Coast, I have had a lot of people walk up to me and say, hey, I tried to tune in yesterday and heard Owen Schroyer. | ||
| We love Owen, but where are you? | ||
| Why aren't you on here? | ||
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No, we don't. | |
| And the answer is, I never take time off. | ||
| We also have a lot of sponsor opportunities and other things where it needs a personal touch that I've been involved in. | ||
| And so the answer is I am taking off part-time, at least for the rest of this week. | ||
| And I'll be back in studio, Lord willing, because nothing's granted in this crazy world. | ||
| Back in studio. | ||
| Alex needs to disclose who gave him that money, because he got $8 million in Bitcoin and then took a week off on a very uncharacteristically long work vacation. | ||
| It kind of leads someone to think that maybe that mystery donor was like, you gotta come visit, or we gotta talk about plans or something. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I gave you $8 million. | ||
| Guess what you're gonna give me? | ||
| I don't know if that's the case, but that's the reason that Alex needs to be a little bit more transparent, because it does create the impression, and it's a possible conclusion people could come to. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And I'm mostly saying this for his benefit. | ||
| I think that his audience would start to get suspicious of like, hey, what's going on here? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Yeah, you know... | ||
| At the end of this, I'm so worried that we're going to find out that his listeners are like, there's just a total of a thousand people, but there's two of them who buy a trillion dollars worth of product every day. | ||
| I think that's unlikely. | ||
| It's unlikely, but come on. | ||
| This is so absurd. | ||
| How can you still be trapped in his brain? | ||
| Well, I think that one of the reasons is because no one looks at this critically, and no one... | ||
| No one who's not sort of in a conspiratorial mindset really pays attention. | ||
| Because look, I'm saying that Alex's vacation could be entirely about sponsors that he's going to visit. | ||
| It could be something where he needs a new supplement line. | ||
| But the lack of transparency... | ||
| Does lead one to think maybe these things are connected? | ||
| I'm a conspiracy theorist listening to a conspiracy theory show, and a guy conspiratorially got a billion dollars and then ran away for a while. | ||
| I think maybe there's a conspiracy. | ||
| But none of that is jumping to that conclusion. | ||
| That is just a logistical thing where it's like, yeah, A plus B could equal C. This is weird. | ||
| You should clear this up so people don't think that if this isn't the case. | ||
| You would think. | ||
| Realistically, this is more what his audience thinks. | ||
| Also want to thank the listeners for being so concerned and asking where is Alex Jones? | ||
| But there's no grand conspiracy here. | ||
| A lot of people have also asked, well, there's these huge hearings attacking you and other people going on right now with January 6th, you know, thinking maybe that I've, you know, we're headed to the hills or something. | ||
| And again, that is not the answer. | ||
| This has been planned for a long time. | ||
| Separately, look, If I try to respond all day to January 6th lies or to CNN's lies with that hit piece they aired last Sunday, I wouldn't have time to be researching all the really important things that are unfolding. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| But yeah, like, his audience is more like Alex has disappeared. | ||
| He's run off to the world. | ||
| Oh my god, is he okay? | ||
| Is he run away? | ||
| Is he in a bunker? | ||
| Is he hiding? | ||
| Are they after him? | ||
| Did they get him? | ||
| Is he in the gulag? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The mind of the listener is far more creative. | ||
| They come up with more abstract and conspiratorial explanations for why Alex is gone, as opposed to probably some sort of shady business. | ||
| Yeah, it can't possibly just be that somebody gave him $8 million. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| Why would you suddenly take a trip for $8 million? | ||
| That's practically more than $7 million. | ||
| It's a little higher. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, we have one more clip here from the 14th, and Alex has some good news. | ||
| Of course, those of the lie, the children of the lie, those that serve the author of lies, Satan, are going to say that we're not legitimate, that we're not modified, that we're not real, because we are real, and we are telling the truth, we are legitimate, and the people know it. | ||
| And that's the other good news I want to give you right now. | ||
| I have traveled to multiple states. | ||
| On the West Coast in the last week. | ||
| All four of them. | ||
| And I have been mobbed at grocery stores, mobbed on the streets, mobbed at restaurants, mobbed at hotels. | ||
| I mean mobbed, where first five people run up and then ten people. | ||
| I've had up to 25 people snapping pictures, asking for autographs, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, old, young. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| We know you're right. | ||
| We know you told the truth. | ||
| You're a legend. | ||
| They're not going to stop us. | ||
| The fact that they attack you makes us know you're for real because everything you said has come true. | ||
| I mean, it is insane, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Yes, it is. | ||
| I know I'm famous. | ||
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I'm cool. | |
| I've been through hell. | ||
| We've been through hell together. | ||
| But the point is, I am a barometer or a gauge because most people obviously aren't well-known who are patriots, so you don't know if somebody else is a patriot or awake when you walk past them. | ||
| A couple of things. | ||
| First, you're a celebrity, ding dong. | ||
| Yeah, no shit. | ||
| I can't believe people are talking about me. | ||
| Yeah, I can't believe people want a picture with me. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
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I imagine even people who hate you would probably want to take a picture as a joke. | |
| Look at me, I'm with this asshole. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Take a picture, you show your friend. | ||
| Yeah, and I think people wouldn't want to, they'd know that you're kind of violent, so maybe don't want to fight you. | ||
| They'd be like, yeah, you're great. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Also, yeah, sure. | ||
| People who agree with him probably also would... | ||
| It's the same star fuckery that he treats other people with that he's being treated with by the layperson. | ||
| Second thing, I know that we've heard... | ||
| Alex discuss his sort of perceptional distortions, like when people in the grocery store turn into demons and go bah at him. | ||
| I think he might have some positive versions of it, too. | ||
| I have a suspicion that maybe some of this is his inability to gauge reality. | ||
| I will say that that sounds suspiciously like... | ||
| Every movie scene where the guy is looking in the mirror after having a huge crisis of confidence and then builds himself back up psychopathically with the, no, you know what? | ||
| You are right. | ||
| Everybody loves you. | ||
| Every time you see somebody on the street, they come down and they say, you know what? | ||
| You're a great guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's exactly what that was. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's an insane person. | ||
| But it's good news. | ||
| It is good news. | ||
| Great news. | ||
| Great news. | ||
| The only better news is in the Bible, my man. | ||
| The author of lies, Satan, has children. | ||
| And they want to tell you that InfoWars is no good. | ||
| They are the writer's assistants of lies. | ||
| They're the copy editors of lies. | ||
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This lie has a typo! | |
| So stupid. | ||
| So dumb. | ||
| So I honestly think there isn't that... | ||
| Much that's interesting. | ||
| A lot of the stuff, the response you'd have to the January 6th and even the CNN thing is kind of just the same. | ||
| Standard talking points, boilerplate nonsense. | ||
| Listening over this stuff, I didn't even feel like most of it was worth the time, but there's some stuff. | ||
| I think, honestly, that clip where he's talking about Uvalde and the Buffalo shooting is outrageous. | ||
| It shows a mentality. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I wanted to do this and check in, and we'll be back on Monday with a fuller episode. | ||
| But also, it is still going to be a little bit nebulous territory, because Alex did say he's going to be gone until next week. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so by Monday, or Sunday when we record, there won't be any content to go over, so we'll have to figure something out. | ||
| Which we will. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We will. | ||
| And I'll tell you what, based on his going rate, we cannot afford to get Alex back in studio. | ||
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No. | |
| We do not have that kind of scratch. | ||
| Neither does InfoWars. | ||
| Bitcoin or otherwise. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And one other thing, too, just real quick. | ||
| I wanted to give this qualifier about our last episode. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We were making a big joke out of how Tyson needs to lick the toad. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And how... | ||
| It's cowardly to... | ||
| We do not recommend you lick toads. | ||
| That is very much an unsafe, irresponsible sort of message. | ||
| We're not trying to peer pressure you into licking a toad via a podcast. | ||
| And I do think that we did make a point that there is some research indicating that this chemical that is the toad could have some medicinal benefits and psychological benefits. | ||
| But maybe we were a little bit more derisive of the whole thing than maybe we should have been. | ||
| And if anybody had that takeaway, that was not our point. | ||
| It was more that... | ||
| Licking toads is very funny. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's nothing else to say. | ||
| I don't know if the benefits of it are the sort of thing where you would do it 60 times. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not a shaman. | ||
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Damn. | |
| Yeah, I don't know either. | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back, Jordan. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| We do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
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Yep. | |
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed, Jordan. | ||
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Yep. | |
| We'll be back. | ||
| Oh, also, some people have asked with Fire Emblem which school I chose. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And it was the Black Eagles. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You? | ||
| I couldn't be the same, so I had chosen the Blue Lions. | ||
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Right. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I hope you all have a dreamy, creamy summer. | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |
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