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Dec. 26, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
21:01
No One Is Mad At The Crew

Today, Dan and Jordan attempt to record a little minisode from different countries.  While Jordan has been out of town, Dan found a few clips from 1998 that the world needs to hear, which illustrate how little Alex has really changed over the past 23 years.

Participants
Main voices
d
dan friesen
09:00
Appearances
j
jordan holmes
04:13
Clips
a
alex jones
00:48
Callers
andy in kansas
00:01
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your room.
Knowledge fight.
Knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Hey everybody, welcome back to a little intercontinental sneaky-est snakes of all, perhaps.
I forgot how to say snake in French.
My French is a bit rusty.
Have you picked up a bit?
unidentified
Snake.
jordan holmes
No, and every time, that's my favorite part of being here.
Every time, because my partner, she grew up in Canada and learned French through Quebec, you know?
Every time she's tried to even come close to saying a French word, they just immediately go like, English.
Okay, so they cut you off before you even come close to being like...
Bonjour.
They're like, nah, nah, nah, nah.
dan friesen
Get the fuck out of here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Don't fuck up my language.
dan friesen
They have a fair amount of disdain for people who try to speak French, which I think is the opposite of what I've heard of in Canada, where they have disdain if you don't try.
jordan holmes
Yeah, give it a shot.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We are recording this over Zoom.
I am in Chicago.
You are in Paris, France.
jordan holmes
I am in the nicest bathroom in Paris, France that I could find.
dan friesen
The lighting looks terrible in that bathroom, I will say.
jordan holmes
Well, I could turn it on, but it's about 6 o 'clock here, so about 30 feet away, somebody is asleep.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
I don't want to get too...
This is going to sound incredibly depressing, but it's about midnight on Christmas for me.
It's the day after Christmas at 6 in the morning for you, and here we are.
jordan holmes
And here we are, yeah.
Like totally normal people who do totally normal things.
dan friesen
God damn it.
Yeah, super good at it.
Well, see, here's the thing.
You left, and then everything happened.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
It was like, hey, it's just going to be a week.
Jordan will be back.
No big deal.
Alex sues the government.
unidentified
It was over Christmas!
dan friesen
Yeah, he turns on Trump, decides he has to deal with Trump saying that he got the booster and it's great.
jordan holmes
It's kind of amazing.
It is kind of amazing that we have spent two months in the present in almost a holding pattern.
dan friesen
Very much.
jordan holmes
Just COVID, COVID, blah, blah, blah.
And then the moment I'm gone, fireworks.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's whenever it's possible to cover the present, it sucks.
And then as soon as it's not possible, I'm listening to some of it.
I'm getting it ready for whenever we can record again.
It's fucking sweet.
Some of it is real fun.
There's some real schadenfreude that I'm experiencing.
jordan holmes
We'll get in there.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that'll be fun.
But that actually kind of brings up why we're doing this little Zoom thing.
And that is because...
Who knows when you're going to be back, honestly.
Given the state of the world and international travel, we'd hoped that Wednesday you'd be back in time for us to have an episode for Wednesday, but that probably isn't going to be the case.
unidentified
Doubtful.
Very doubtful.
dan friesen
We're looking probably at Friday, and we can't leave people with a whole week till Friday.
We gotta come in with a little something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it'd be crazy to leave people with only, what, one episode when we promised them zero?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's just not our style.
unidentified
No, no.
jordan holmes
If we promise you zero, you're getting two episodes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I guess before we get into something that I have prepared for fun, you have a bright spot?
jordan holmes
I do have a bright spot.
It is being in France.
dan friesen
Le spot du soleil.
unidentified
Nice!
jordan holmes
Isn't that Sunspot?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
That's a different spot.
jordan holmes
It's a little different.
dan friesen
Le spot de brilliance.
jordan holmes
No, it's fantastic.
This place is amazing.
It really is.
Paris is crazy.
Incredible.
I love it here.
dan friesen
Have you gotten out to the countryside at all?
unidentified
No, you literally cannot do that.
jordan holmes
You cannot leave Paris and re-enter it.
Without quarantining for like 10 days.
So it's like, meh.
That's made me feel safer than otherwise.
dan friesen
Sure.
The countryside's gorgeous, but maybe not that gorgeous.
jordan holmes
Not worth it.
dan friesen
Yeah, you don't need it that bad.
jordan holmes
Besides, I'm an indoor kid anyways.
I like cities, man.
This is a good city.
This is the first city I've been to outside of...
unidentified
Let's see.
jordan holmes
San Francisco felt like a city.
And then a lot of other places out in Paris feels like a city.
dan friesen
I love it.
Are you taking in any outdoor cafes?
jordan holmes
Oh yeah.
dan friesen
Checking out that scene?
jordan holmes
Every outdoor cafe.
You can't avoid it.
unidentified
I did not believe there would be this much bread.
jordan holmes
I knew there was going to be a lot of bread.
I knew there was going to be a lot of bread.
Frankly, they're famous for it.
dan friesen
Le baguette.
Le croissant.
jordan holmes
God damn, man.
dan friesen
All of these breads.
They're there.
jordan holmes
I'm walking down the street.
People are hitting me in the streets with it.
dan friesen
You get a croissant du bleu, the butter croissant.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, you want a chocolat du pain.
dan friesen
Ooh, so good.
I can't think of any more French words.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot, buddy?
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll get more in-depth on your trip when you get back, and we'll be able to decompress and everything.
I have an actual bright spot, and that is some presents that folks have sent, but I want to wait until you're here to actually, like...
Give shout-outs to them, but just preemptively thank you to those folks, and we'll zip up the mailbag whenever you're back.
But my other bright spot is that with you out of town, a little bit of a lighter workload, so I took the time to finally do something I've been meaning to for a while, and that is I went and I got an eye exam, and I got some glasses coming, so I'm very excited about that.
No shit!
unidentified
All the time glasses or readers?
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
All the time glasses?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
All the time glasses.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
I think, I mean, look, I sit here at the, you know, it screens a lot of the time, and, you know, I don't know.
I'm just going to wear the glasses.
jordan holmes
I'm looking forward to it.
dan friesen
Yeah, I noticed a little bit of a diminishing in my eyesight over the last, like, couple years, and it's better to be proactive on that than not.
unidentified
Absolutely!
dan friesen
And I'm excited for the, like, to really work on this professor look.
Like, the look is starting to come together a little bit.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, I'm telling you.
You know how we do all of our live appearances?
unidentified
When we do those, it makes me feel so much more comfortable if we're both wearing glasses.
dan friesen
Sure, all of those live appearances we do.
unidentified
We can't stop doing live appearances, honestly.
dan friesen
We've done two or three, ever.
So, Jordan, here's the deal.
In your absence, I've been trying to get a bit of stuff done.
And so, like, I've been hitting some bases like Reset Wars, obviously.
I've been going through the Reset Wars stuff.
But also, I've been digging into some of the old files that I've found on various real player things on websites that are long gone.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Cold case files.
dan friesen
You can still find the little audio files.
So today, what I've got for you, Is a couple of clips from Alex's show on June 30th, 1998 that I think are so funny.
So at this point, Alex's show is called Exposing Corruption.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Yes.
He also is part of another show in Austin called The Freedom Report.
But that's not every day of the week.
I think this is just a weekly show at this point.
But anyway, he takes calls sometimes.
And so that's what we're going to listen to today.
We're going to listen to a guy who's calling in and wanting to talk to Alex about like, hey man, are you serious?
And so this is where we will start with this caller.
jordan holmes
I'm a very passive person.
unidentified
I watch you practically every week, Alex.
I got to admit, a lot of you is entertainment as far as...
The reason why I watch you.
jordan holmes
But, I mean, I think you've got a lot of good things to say.
unidentified
On the other hand, I'm one of those people that go, okay, settle down.
Everything's going to be cool.
I think everything, you know.
Really?
What are you going to do?
Do you have any elderly people that live around you?
I just moved to my, you know, neighborhood just recently.
Let me ask you a question.
alex jones
grandparents, not the ones that not my father's parents, but my mother's parents live in a humble home with a nice, you know, backyard and they worked hard their lives and they're not rich.
unidentified
Right.
And the IRS tried to steal their house.
Personally, I haven't seen that type of I have to stop here.
dan friesen
Does humble home mean something like, is that something really specific or is it just like it's not that big of a home?
jordan holmes
I think the idea behind Humble Home is the person who lives in it is not embarrassed, but also not going to tell people all about it.
dan friesen
It's not ostentatious.
jordan holmes
There are no minarets.
I'm just picturing the moment young Alex says the IRS tried to steal my parents' homes.
I am picturing jackbooted thugs.
Breaking it in the middle of the night and trying to put little suspenders underneath the house to lift it up, put it on the truck and get it out of there.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
I'm seeing people coming from black helicopters, rappelling down ropes and attaching the house to the helicopter.
Yeah, I think it's probably just that they didn't pay their taxes.
So anyway, Alex's grandparents have befallen this fate and also some other guy that Alex knows.
unidentified
He's had a stroke.
They target old people.
Bureaucrats target old people.
You know, you sit here, they target them because a lot of times they can't stand up for themselves and they just get sucked dry by the bureaucrats because they're getting a little bit old.
alex jones
You take Roland Ellingson, another World War II veteran, living out there on...
unidentified
West 37. $2,000 a day fines for 3-inch grass.
I showed you the ticket.
I saw that.
I saw that.
Well, then what do you want from me?
Don't you tell me this is entertainment.
jordan holmes
Oh, come on, man.
unidentified
Come on.
Don't you tell me this is entertainment, buddy.
This is real.
I called you up to be...
Don't, don't...
No, I'm sick of it.
I'm sick of it.
I'm standing up for the people, damn it.
Oh, I understand that, man.
This isn't an act.
I'm a real person.
There's some chivalry left in this country, buddy.
I haven't had my soul sucked out.
alex jones
I think it's wrong that people can't sell their houses because of the environmental crap that corporations can go around and lobby the politicians and get out of.
jordan holmes
Alex, man, I did not call you up there.
unidentified
Man, you don't have to get in people's face like this, man.
I don't want you to kiss my ass.
I want you to get up and do something.
I want you to get up and do something.
alex jones
And don't you tell me I got a problem because I care about this country.
jordan holmes
Alex, I'm all right, man.
unidentified
I mean, I, you know, it's all I can confront those IRS people, but I'm afraid to.
alex jones
But as I grow stronger, someday I may do what it takes.
unidentified
I'm defending this Constitution.
I'm defending this country.
dan friesen
I love this so much because it's like Alex's monologuing and his nonsense stuff works so much better when he has a cough button and he can just not let people respond.
This guy's like, come on, man!
jordan holmes
Oh, great.
unidentified
The best line in there is, Alex, I'm okay, man.
dan friesen
That's my favorite.
jordan holmes
Alex, Alex, calm it down.
I'm just trying to tell you that you're screaming too much and you're an alarmist.
unidentified
What are you talking about?
dan friesen
Yeah, so unfortunately, the file that I have doesn't have everything surrounding this, but from all the context you can get, Alex is talking about the IRS.
Trying to steal people's homes.
And this guy is saying that maybe he's being a little bit over the top about it.
jordan holmes
Alex, there's a lot of injustice in this world.
I get it.
unidentified
I'm with you.
jordan holmes
But screaming about it isn't going to do too much good, is it?
Okay, I'm starting to see that this might be an issue for further conversations.
dan friesen
I think that there's something so awesome about just the juxtaposition, too, that, like, makes Alex's yelling so much funnier.
Like, having a straight man to his yelling, it's exactly what you kind of need to pierce the reality of it.
jordan holmes
Totally.
Totally.
dan friesen
Amazing.
jordan holmes
The more calm the straight man is, the funnier it is to see Alex lose his fucking mind.
dan friesen
For sure.
So, this caller brings up that Alex doesn't really use a whole lot of sources in his reporting.
This is where the conversation veers off towards.
And this kind of makes Alex angry a little bit, you might say.
unidentified
You rely on a source when it tells you something you want to know.
That's when the source is good.
Otherwise, the source is crap.
No, no, we have children right here.
I talk about everything's children.
Saving play for a rainy day.
People who look to the future of China.
Cheaper age regime may save thousands of children.
Children, children.
Oh, today's paper.
Oh, I'm sorry, the chip page.
Children.
The DNA chips are going to help children.
Here.
I'm not through.
I'm not through smoking.
I'm not through China, the failing end.
We've got to help the children.
Oh, God, this guy's taking his kids fishing with his children.
Oh, look, look, look.
This is a wholesome Disney movie.
It's for your children.
Yeah, I answered your question.
Let's go to video, and I'll be back.
You are a child.
That's what they want you to do.
That's what the word child means.
They want you to be the babies of the state.
We're the children, dumbass.
We'll be right back.
I'll take your phone calls.
I'm full of corruption, damn it.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Alex stormed off his own show.
unidentified
Even back in 1998, he couldn't control himself.
dan friesen
And he'll just storm off his own show.
jordan holmes
1998.
We have gone back 23 years.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Only to discover that he's not mad at the crew, but he just can't do this for a while.
unidentified
I'm gonna have to go to rebroadcast.
This caller is being too much of a dick.
dan friesen
I gotta play a video and get the fuck out of here because this guy is a child.
I like that.
unidentified
Hey, Alex, do you realize that everything you do is built entirely upon confirmation bias?
What the fuck are you talking about?
You're a child!
jordan holmes
That's fair enough.
dan friesen
I like that the sign of an artist, I think, is somebody who will do the same thing when they're rich and when they're struggling.
And to see Alex freaking out and storming off his own show when he's a millionaire and when he's on public access is pretty awesome.
jordan holmes
I think the real hallmark of an artist is to never evolve in any significant way.
dan friesen
Speaking of evolution, you made a point that in the present day, Alex, you know, he's not mad at the crew.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And here's what happened right after this video that Alex played in 1998.
unidentified
Hello, Austin, Texas.
Totally.
Hope you're enjoying the show tonight.
We're making a new rule.
Nobody goes in the control room or we have no reason to even do this show.
Because every time five or six people come up and hang out in the control room, this happens.
And I don't understand why.
alex jones
And look, I know this is all volunteer, but I mean, we've got to bring the public.
unidentified
This is important.
And I'm not mad at y 'all.
You've got to show up to me for the show.
You can still do a good job, which you do do.
We just gotta keep people out of control.
It's not your fault.
dan friesen
He literally said he's not mad at the crew.
jordan holmes
Does he exist outside of time?
Is he right about one thing, which is that he's beyond the fourth dimension and that no matter what era we see him in, he will be doing exactly the same thing?
dan friesen
What's remarkable about it is it's not the same thing in terms of the content that he's putting out.
It's not the same thing in terms of even a lot of the beliefs that he has.
unidentified
The things that are the same are the petulant outbursts.
He's a shitty child.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think this is a cautionary tale about people who are very suspicious about mental health.
unidentified
I think the explanation of all of this, when you get down to it, is...
Alex had some sort of mental, emotional issue.
His parents didn't help him grow up.
And he's not experienced any consequences for his behaviors.
And that's how you get a violent sociopath on the radio.
dan friesen
I imagine it was years and years of him yelling at his parents and then coming back and being like, I'm not mad at the parents.
unidentified
No, right?
That's your only conclusion now after watching him on the show 23 years ago.
He must have been doing that.
33 years ago when he was 12 or whatever.
dan friesen
Scream at the teachers and then storm out of the room and then come back after talking to the counselor and be like, look, I'm not mad at the teachers.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
I'm not mad at the math.
unidentified
All right?
I get it.
jordan holmes
I understand the math.
unidentified
Every time I try to do math, we wind up doing this.
So, I get it.
But we gotta fix math.
dan friesen
Yeah, I found that and I thought, well, we cannot bring this to the world.
I can't sit on that.
When I hear 1998, I'm not mad at the crew, the world must know.
unidentified
It's got to be broadcast and then rebroadcast whenever you get real angry.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, I hope the rest of your trip goes well and you have a safe return.
As do I. Thanks for making time in the bathroom to do this.
unidentified
Of course.
You know, it's odd to say, but this is maybe one of my favorite, if not my favorite thing to do.
Sit in the bathroom and talk to Dan.
dan friesen
I feel honored, and I will talk to you soon, man.
Be safe.
unidentified
Love you, buddy.
dan friesen
Love you, man.
We'll see y 'all on Friday, probably.
unidentified
Oh, hopefully.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
dan friesen
Thanks for holding.
andy in kansas
Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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