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Aug. 16, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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#586: August 11-12, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on how things have been going in InfoWars world.  In this installment, the date of Alex Jones' maybe-prediction of martial law being announced comes and goes, Alex has to rationalize Mike Lindell's symposium going poorly, and imaginary meetings with Globalists are discussed. Citations

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alex jones
25:05
d
dan friesen
01:02:18
j
jordan holmes
30:33
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mike adams
02:17
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rand paul
00:14
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Knowledge Fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
This might come off petty and may be insulting to you.
But it is a bright spot.
jordan holmes
Your bright spot is somehow both petty and insulting to me.
dan friesen
You can take that, or you can take a bright spot that doesn't sound like a bright spot, but could get us to a brighter place.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
Which would you like?
Actually, we'll get both.
jordan holmes
I don't know, is your bright spot like a workplace evaluation?
It's not good.
Not gonna go.
dan friesen
No, the petty and possibly insulting one is I've been doing all these buttons.
Like, I'm sending buttons out to people and, you know, I'm going through the emails to get people's addresses.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And stuff.
And I'm not gonna say exactly how many I've gone through, but I will say it's in the low four digits.
Yes.
And I got one the other day that was addressed to you.
Literally all the other ones.
Almost all of them are like, Dan, I know you're the one.
There was one, only one, out of all of them that was addressed to Jordan and then said something like, say hi to Dan.
jordan holmes
That is so nice of them.
Whoever that is gets...
I don't know.
I'm going to send you something special.
That's what's going to happen.
dan friesen
I thought that was really amusing.
That's very funny.
I mean, it's something to start from.
jordan holmes
I think so.
dan friesen
The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step and one email.
jordan holmes
We'll start sending out competitive buttons.
I think that's the way it's going to go.
dan friesen
Good luck.
So the other bright spot that is maybe not a bright spot that could lead us to a better place is I have a message to KitKat.
Okay.
And that is Shut It Down.
jordan holmes
The company.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Kit Kat, the company.
dan friesen
Shut it down.
jordan holmes
Even the original Kit Kat bar, just get rid of it.
dan friesen
No, the regular one's fine.
You gotta stop it with these flavors.
jordan holmes
What'd you try?
dan friesen
The fruity cereal one.
jordan holmes
There's a fruity cereal one.
Oh, no.
dan friesen
And a key lime pie.
Shut it down.
It's not good.
jordan holmes
Tastes like shit.
It is funny how it seems like what happened with most of these candy companies are like McDonald's or something.
You see what they do in Japan or something and you're like, what is a rice ball flavored Kit Kat?
What are you talking about?
That was 10 years ago and we're all like, we should try all these flavors.
And now they're here and we're like, stop it!
Shut it down!
dan friesen
Well, maybe there is a way to do it well and maybe in Japan it's being done well.
And maybe that is the case.
It's not being done well here.
We'll be in a better place if you just stop it.
jordan holmes
Just stop it.
dan friesen
Stop it.
This is somebody who loves novelty saying that, too.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Stop.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
How about you?
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Dan, is the challenge has returned.
MTV's challenged by one reality TV show that I...
dan friesen
As somebody who's spent hours watching Survivor, season upon season, I must shake my head at you.
jordan holmes
I don't know why those stupid idiots, I just love them so much.
The only problem this year is, for the past few years...
I have been tracking my new favorite character.
You know, you remember young CT?
dan friesen
Of course.
jordan holmes
Just crazy.
dan friesen
The Beantown Prince.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Eyes, bloodshot, always ready.
dan friesen
Captain Nuthugger.
jordan holmes
For a few years, he's been fat CT.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And it's been fantastic.
And apparently something happened.
My partner insists that he just got divorced because he is back to being ripped.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Like, really ripped again.
dan friesen
Is he also back to being a violently abusive asshole?
jordan holmes
No!
No, no, no, no.
He's turned into a completely different, like, he's a weird dad character now.
Like, anytime the younger people are having trouble, they always show up next to him, and he's like, hey, you know what you gotta try and do?
You gotta see what happens.
You know, like, he's just this weird Buddha in the challenge house.
unidentified
It's fantastic.
dan friesen
Wait till the end of the season.
I'm sure he's gonna beat somebody up.
In a drunken rage.
jordan holmes
Oh, sooner or later.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Because my theory is, if he was really big and now he's gotten back, I bet he's off his meds.
jordan holmes
Well, if he's divorced, I'm sure he's definitely more likely to drink a lot now.
dan friesen
Yeah, who does?
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I'm excited for you to be having the sort of experience and excitement that I had when I was 20. 22 watching CT.
jordan holmes
I only discovered the challenge since the beginning of the pandemic.
dan friesen
It's a little unbecoming for a 30-year-old, but whatever.
jordan holmes
Too late now.
dan friesen
I say, again, as somebody who's watching...
jordan holmes
22 seasons into Survivor in the past three weeks.
dan friesen
And still watching it, though I actively don't enjoy it.
Despise it.
That might be a theme in my life.
Alex Jones, I don't like it.
jordan holmes
We're not doing self-examination right.
dan friesen
Therapy's on Wednesdays.
jordan holmes
Your performance evaluation's gonna be weird.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an episode we're dipping back into last week.
Indeed.
At the end of last week, what we did is we put a reposted episode about Dennis Montgomery because it came out that he was sort of behind some of this information that Mike Lindell was going over at his cyber symposium.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And I kind of realized that what we need to do now Now that the cyber symposium is over is that we need to go back and look at this as a snapshot.
We need...
Now we have closure on it.
jordan holmes
Now we've got a hole.
dan friesen
We know for sure that Trump did not get put back in office.
unidentified
It was an open question at the end of last week.
dan friesen
We recorded on Thursdays.
jordan holmes
There were some people who really did think...
Who really did that?
dan friesen
We record on Thursdays, so we didn't know what was going to happen on Friday the 13th.
It was a very important day numerologically to the globalists and the occultists.
jordan holmes
No, I would finally believe in all superstitions regarding Friday the 13th if suddenly Trump was reinstated as president.
I would be like, I guess they're all true.
I guess if we had a 13th floor in a hotel after Trump got reinstated, that's fucking insane.
dan friesen
If I were Trump and I got reinstated on Friday the 13th as president, I would take to the podium and my first words would be, blah.
jordan holmes
He has a straight up Dr. Wiley.
dan friesen
Yeah, or like, don't call it a comeback.
Or something like that.
I'd do something funny.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I don't know.
If you get...
I mean, Wyclef would say that if you get elected on Friday, you will almost certainly be assassinated on Saturday.
dan friesen
And then you'll be gone until November.
Other Wyclef reference.
jordan holmes
Something like that, yeah.
dan friesen
Just because Trump dances go-go, that don't make him a ho-no.
jordan holmes
All right.
Do we do a show?
Are we done yet?
dan friesen
Anyway, so what we're going to do today is we're going to be talking about August 11th and 12th, and then I figure middle of the week for Wednesday we can finish off the Cyber Symposium.
jordan holmes
Love it.
dan friesen
Because there's a good amount to get through, and some really, really delightfully funny stupidity.
jordan holmes
I'm excited.
dan friesen
And so we'll get down to business on that, but first, Jordan, let's say hello to some new walks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, my opening argument is this knowledge fight is to clean up aisle 45, but I'm tuckered out.
Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
A whole lot of shout-outs going on in there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Next, Charmaine loves Daniel.
Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Oh, thank you very much, Charmaine.
dan friesen
It's all full circle now.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Next, Tyrus is a beacon of hope for humanity, and everybody knows it.
Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Tyrus!
dan friesen
And then we got a couple of technocrats here.
First...
Founding member number nine of the official Stacey Q fan club.
Thank you so much.
You're now a technocrat.
You like Stacey Q?
Two of hearts, two hearts that beat as one.
You know that song?
jordan holmes
No, I don't know that song.
dan friesen
It's a banger.
You should go check it out.
jordan holmes
All right, I will.
dan friesen
Then the other technocrat, Jerome Corsi's bloated fucking face.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
alex jones
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare...
Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank y 'all.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Check out that Stacey Q song.
It's fun.
That was a gym banger for me.
It's on my gym playlists pretty regularly.
jordan holmes
I don't mind buzz marketing for other podcasts, but I'm here for shitting on Jerome Corsi's face.
That's what I'm about.
dan friesen
Sure.
It's as important as making sure everyone remembers Stacey Q. Indeed.
And then also got some additions to Celine's family to bring up.
Actually, this addition's from Roe in Scotland.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Roe adopted a tree.
That has a placard on it that says, This tree is dedicated to Selene.
All hail the great Selene.
So now there's a tree in Scotland with a Selene placard on it.
jordan holmes
I just don't know if there's anything better for us to leave as a legacy.
Sure.
Some people get fucking benches or some shit.
No way.
We got a Selene on a tree.
That's the way we do.
dan friesen
And then also Marcella got in touch and had made a donation and wanted a shout out for the pet rescue.
The Mendocino.
Oh, hell yeah.
And so, absolutely.
They're helping animals that are being...
Maybe their owners have medical fees that they can't take care of.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And such.
And, you know, there are pet rescues like this in many, many places around the country.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
And in other countries.
And they do very important work to make sure animals aren't killed.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
If you are near a pet rescue, please help.
Please help!
dan friesen
So, Jordan, here we go.
Let's get into this.
Let's talk about August 11th.
First, this is...
Maybe the day that martial law is going to get...
jordan holmes
Could have happened.
dan friesen
This is the day that Alex has built up as the day that Biden is going to announce martial law.
jordan holmes
Right.
Now, maybe it'll happen, but maybe it won't.
And if it doesn't happen, it's not because the information is wrong.
dan friesen
It's because Alex talked about it, and he scared the globalists, and then they didn't do it.
And so he's trying to walk that line here on the 11. Here we go.
alex jones
First, I want to play the puppet-in-chief.
In a press conference yesterday saying he may announce nationwide mandates for masks and, yes, lockdowns of non-essential businesses.
Now, they've had the speech ready for weeks.
They were talking about this day, August 11th, being when it would happen.
When I brought that up last week, I said us bringing it up may make them move the date or they may change it on their own accord.
But I stand by my sources and Jack Posobiec's sources that they were looking at today as the day to announce new nationwide mandates.
And last night, Biden said he's looking at the law, which he always says before he does it when he violates the law.
dan friesen
So maybe it's going to happen.
Maybe it's not.
jordan holmes
Probably not.
dan friesen
But here we are today.
Alex also has to know that the emergency alert test is gonna happen while he's on air.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, this is a weird situation.
He's putting himself in a barrel.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, like, this isn't good.
You shouldn't do this to yourself.
You know that eventually you're going to be on air when the thing doesn't happen that you've said, maybe it's gonna happen!
jordan holmes
Sure, but have you considered doing a little bit of soft shoe and saying, exit stage left?
dan friesen
Maybe.
Well, we will see what happens.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But before that deadline hits, Alex has some time to fill, and so he does it by complaining about masks.
alex jones
The M95, the supposedly best mask you can get to stop viruses and other particula getting through into your nasal cavity or into your throat and your lungs, says on the back, this product is an ear loop mask.
This product is not a respirator and will not provide any...
Any, any, any protection against COVID-19 coronavirus or other viruses or contaminants.
Let me read that again.
This product is an ear loop mask.
This product is not, not a respirator and will not provide any protection against COVID-19 coronavirus or other viruses or contaminants.
Let's just read it one more time.
This product is an ear loop mask.
This product is not, not, not a respirator and will not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not.
Provide any, any, any, any protection against COVID-19, COVID-19, coronaviruses or other viruses.
I'm not trying to be obnoxious here.
dan friesen
I need him to read it again.
I didn't get that.
jordan holmes
You know, he read it so many times it's like when you say a word too many times and it loses all meaning to you.
dan friesen
Shovel.
jordan holmes
I mean, when he said innie, he kept saying innie, and I started thinking about belly buttons.
I was like, you don't need to, you're not doing this well.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that was a poor attempt to not be obnoxious, if that's truly his intention.
jordan holmes
To SAT that, that is to doing his show what increasing your font to 20 is to writing a paper.
Do you know what I mean?
I'm going to waste as much time as I can saying as little as I can.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's also like the equivalent of putting something in all caps and thinking you're strengthening your argument.
Also, what he's reading there, that's just from a meme that went around last year, early in the anti-mask days.
It's my feeling that the messaging on masks has been pretty clear if you're actually paying attention and not a knee-jerk reactionary asshole.
Masks are an important part of the pandemic response, but doctors and hospitals Alex appears to be arguing against a straw man here,
namely that the reason to wear masks is to protect yourself.
He can repeat that warning label from a box of masks a hundred times if he wants.
It just doesn't mean anything.
He's arguing against the wrong point.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does seem like there have been a lot of resources spent trying to confuse people as to what the point is.
You know, like...
If you explain to somebody, rationally, without the influence of everything, that it's about protecting others, I think it will not be hard to convince them.
The problem is that trillions of dollars have been spent confusing people into being...
dan friesen
It's about a combined effort that has a cumulative effect.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
So the text that Alex is reading is just from this meme.
It's not the packaging of an N95 mask.
It's just a box of standard cloth masks.
So he's just embellishing all this shit and repeating it over...
Over and over again, because then he's hoping it will drive into the minds of his listeners and be a compelling argument.
All caps.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you might as well be like, this is not scuba gear!
You cannot breathe underwater with this!
dan friesen
It's interesting that you bring up breathing underwater, because Alex has some bad advice that at least he does say is bad advice.
alex jones
You know, there's one way to make a mask actually work, but only for about 20 seconds.
You gotta soak it in water.
And that's when you've got to go into a burning house to get your kid or whatever, you get a wet rag put over your face, and it'll work for a little while through smoke.
You better have goggles on.
And don't try that at home, folks.
You'll die, probably.
unidentified
But what a way to make cloth work.
alex jones
Soak it in water.
And again, it doesn't work very long.
dan friesen
Okay, this is useful.
This is useful conversation.
I have just given you a pointless piece of information and said that it's super effective, but it'd also kill you.
jordan holmes
Hey, just so you know, this is how you make this function right.
You will die.
So don't do it.
dan friesen
It'll work for a little while, but also you'll probably kill yourself.
jordan holmes
You'll probably die.
Hey, don't go back into a burning building.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
Not hard.
dan friesen
So Alex talks more about this warning label that's on the back of these masks, right?
jordan holmes
Right, about belly buttons.
dan friesen
But it's censored.
jordan holmes
Wait, the warning label is censored?
dan friesen
The warning label is censored.
Well, any media that wants to cover it, it's censored.
Except for the media that Alex is citing in talking about how...
jordan holmes
That's trouble.
alex jones
And look at all these articles.
unidentified
WUSA TV, Channel 9, they've done it.
alex jones
Verified.
Fact check.
Why a FaceMax box says it provides no protection to the wearer.
You try to put this out on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Google, any of them.
Apple, they won't let you put these articles out.
Local news, national news.
dan friesen
Yeah, but that's not true.
This article itself, you can post.
Anywhere.
jordan holmes
Explain to me how there can be all these articles which are assumably posted by and hosted by these outlets.
And yet also...
All these articles, all these, suggesting that there are a large number of them.
dan friesen
Well, I think that Alex is trying to imply that they get blocked by posting on social media.
And I think that maybe some of the articles that are on, like, really dicey blogs maybe end up with a, like, hey, this isn't true warning.
jordan holmes
Hey, come on now.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
Maybe that is something that happens if you try to post them on social media.
jordan holmes
Well, probably.
dan friesen
Maybe.
But this article that Alex is talking about, the USA9, the WUSA9 local news article, that you can post wherever you want.
And part of the reason is because it is where Alex is seeing this meme, the actual image of it, but it describes and explains why this meme is sending inaccurate information.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
It takes the...
Context into consideration.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't have a compelling feeling about this being censorship.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm going to go with no.
This is not censorship.
There are all these articles.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So now also the Surgeon General, like a year ago, said don't wear masks.
jordan holmes
That's because he was censored.
dan friesen
Man.
alex jones
Surgeon General warns the public, stop buying face masks, says they don't work, which was true back in February of last year, but you can't say it now.
See how that works?
dan friesen
See how that works?
So that's a headline that Alex is reading from February of last year, when the Surgeon General, Dr. Jerome Adams, came out and asked the public to stop buying all the masks.
jordan holmes
Wasn't it because people were hoarding a shit ton of masks?
dan friesen
Well, there was a couple issues.
One of the issues was that there was a fear that the public could make a run on masks, and it was possible then that medical professionals would be unable to get the protective gear they needed to do their job.
Another factor that's super important is to consider that at this point in February 2020, we didn't know what we know now.
This was prior to the understanding that the novel coronavirus could be transmitted by people prior to them developing symptoms.
If you're operating under the assumption that only symptomatic people are contagious, then widespread masking isn't really all that important.
People who have symptoms should stay home or wear a mask, and that should largely cut down on a lot of the transmission.
However, if pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic cases of the coronavirus are able to cause new infections, they have a completely different scenario on your hands.
Now, if you don't have symptoms, you may not be sick, but you might be pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic.
So even if you feel completely normal, there's a chance that you could be getting people sick if you're going out in public without a mask.
This dynamic is what changed the government's official guidance on widespread masking.
Prior to understanding that asymptomatic spread was possible, there really wasn't that much of a reason for people to wear masks unless they were sick.
After that aspect of the virus was better understood, it became critical for people to wear masks, not to protect themselves, but to drastically reduce transmission to others.
Alex either knows all this and is willingly misleading his audience about very important public health issues, or he's really unable to grasp basic concepts and probably shouldn't be trusted to interpret information.
This is tragic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's kind of interesting.
That far-right propaganda usually boils down to, future could be anything.
Past can be seen 2020.
Like, good work, guys.
You nailed it.
You really fucking nailed it.
dan friesen
And so much of this, like, if you...
If you get down to the actual details and the facts of the information that they're disseminating, it really does break down into two possible paths, and one is you're too dumb to understand what you're talking about, or you're willfully misrepresenting this and putting people at greater risk.
I don't know.
Neither is acceptable.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, you know, you can be both too dumb to understand the greater context, but understand just enough to distort it in order to make money.
Oh, I think I just explained America.
dan friesen
So, you have a buddy.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
His name is Rand.
jordan holmes
My best friend.
dan friesen
And Alex is concerned that Rand Paul has been censored by all sorts of media and YouTube.
jordan holmes
He wasn't concerned about Rand Paul's wife using information.
dan friesen
We're going to talk about that a little bit.
jordan holmes
He didn't talk about that?
dan friesen
No, but we will.
But yeah, Rand Paul apparently was giving a little bit of a chat about how You know, this meme about masks not helping people.
Why don't you look at that meme?
jordan holmes
Why don't you look at that meme?
There's nothing to look at over here.
dan friesen
And so maybe he got censored on YouTube, and so now he's complaining about it.
alex jones
Here's his response video, again, also taken down by the Thought Police.
rand paul
Recently, I shared a video on my YouTube page.
It was an interview between myself and a journalist where we discussed a variety of topics, including the science behind wearing masks.
unidentified
Apparently, because I dared to contradict Dr. Fauci and the government, YouTube has removed my video.
rand paul
If you want to see the video, it's up on Rumble.com.
unidentified
Rumble.com does not censor the news.
Wow.
dan friesen
Lots to unpack here.
First, it recently came out, like you mentioned, that Rand Paul's wife bought stock in Gilead Pharmaceuticals in February 2020, which was only disclosed this past week, well past the 45-day deadline that he's supposed to report these kind of purchases in.
jordan holmes
I would assume that she just bought stock in Rumble as well.
dan friesen
Interestingly, 45 days after his wife's stock purchase happened to be right in that sweet spot last March when Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue were getting very serious criticism from the press about how they may have used insider...
information, uh, gained in briefings to make stock market transactions.
jordan holmes
Well, hey, at least they didn't face any consequences for it.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
But it also sounds like exactly the sort of time that a man with integrity like Rand Paul, you know, he wouldn't want to step up and create any kind of appearances that he was doing similar shit.
jordan holmes
I bet he doesn't want to debate, uh, whether or not people in power should be able to Probably not.
dan friesen
This revelation of Paul's wife's stock purchase and its very delayed disclosure, it creates mountains of problems.
The first is that there is the appearance of insider trading.
There may be no insider trading going on, and it's plausible that Ms. Paul bought that stock without any information from Rand, It looks really bad.
The second problem is that this means that Rand Paul had an undisclosed financial interest in government policy as it relates to COVID response.
Whether or not he acted to further those interests, he stood to gain from more people getting sick and from there not being a vaccine that is widely available.
Yep.
Gilead produces remdesivir.
Yep.
unidentified
There may be no malfeasance here, but there's a giant cloud of suspicion that...
dan friesen
I would, too.
It could be!
That was a little bit glaring.
jordan holmes
Rumble.com.
They don't censor your information.
That's right, everybody.
Just go to Rumble.com.
That's R-U-M-B-L-E.com.
dan friesen
This wouldn't even make me raise an eyebrow, except that this week it was reported that Rumble was signing up people they deemed, quote, thought leaders to promote their platform as an alternative to YouTube.
jordan holmes
Hey, that's good stuff.
dan friesen
The big names that they announced were Glenn Greenwald and Tulsi Gabbard.
jordan holmes
Hey, come on!
What's wrong with those?
Who's to?
dan friesen
It's enough to make you wonder if Rand Paul is another quote-unquote thought leader.
He certainly seems to have a difficult time making timely disclosures of conflicting interests.
I guess maybe we'll know in 16 months whether or not that was paid SpawnCon for Rumble.
jordan holmes
Look, if you got into government to do anything other than grift and make money, I don't understand what you're doing in government.
What else is it for, Dan?
dan friesen
So, Alex had an intention on the show today.
You remember that song by Afro Man?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
I was gonna clean my room, but then I got high.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This is sort of like that, but without the getting high part.
jordan holmes
It's fun.
That's the only song I remember from Afro Man.
Weird.
alex jones
I was about to go live today, and going over literally hundreds of articles, I noticed a theme last night and this morning.
We're doing research.
So I've been doing research since 5 a.m. this morning.
jordan holmes
Man versus self.
alex jones
A major victory.
So I intended to come in today and write a headline about major victory and the globalists are in trouble.
And I got so busy with all the other news that came out and came up that I forgot about that big stack of news I've got right here, all the victories.
And even more coming in as we speak.
jordan holmes
But martial law is coming.
alex jones
They just brought me more victories, big ones, and that reminded me that I was going to have a whole show about victory.
dan friesen
I was going to do a show about victory, but then I got scared of headlines.
jordan holmes
I remember today is the day that martial law is supposed to be announced, and all we've got is a day about victories?
dan friesen
There's supposed to be a day about victories.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
One of the big victories is that martial law didn't happen.
jordan holmes
That's a huge one.
That's true.
That's a huge one.
dan friesen
Monumental victory.
jordan holmes
Maybe the only one that matters.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that one of the primary things that he considers a victory in terms of the things he's going over is that a number of places like the military have affirmed that there are religious exemptions from vaccine requirements.
And it's like, that's not even something that wasn't the case a week ago.
It's just they said that...
We knew that.
jordan holmes
Victories.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Small victories, Dan.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Thank God for small miracles.
dan friesen
So, in his discussion of forgetting about having to do a show about victories, he talks a little bit about how women are going to poison people or something.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This is strange.
alex jones
And see, that's what always happens when a tyranny goes long enough, and if men actually roll over historically, the women just start poisoning everybody.
So, look for that.
jordan holmes
Could I have a reference?
alex jones
And that's what I've said.
If you're the domestic help of these globalists, take really good care of them and tuck them in real tight at night.
dan friesen
It really sounds like he's telling people to kill.
jordan holmes
If you are Jeff Bezos' maid, why aren't you killing him?
dan friesen
Yes.
Alex is very clearly saying poison these globalists if you have access to them.
jordan holmes
I mean, look, a lot of billionaires are getting divorces these days because most of them were friends with Jeffrey Epstein.
I mean, who's better at poisoning the next wives?
It's always the spouse, Dan.
dan friesen
I don't know what side of the law this is on, but it doesn't feel good.
jordan holmes
Imaginary poisoning?
dan friesen
I don't think this feels good.
jordan holmes
Well, for Alex, it's not.
dan friesen
So he's saying that the women are going to come in and poison people because that's the stage wreck because men have not done the job or whatever.
jordan holmes
Was that part of the fall of Rome?
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Oh, it was?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Everybody got poisoned?
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
A lot of poison.
dan friesen
Every single culture throughout all of history, this is what's happened.
Right after the Black...
Pyramids.
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
Or whatever.
jordan holmes
Sure.
The Joe dynasty, that fell due to all the women poisoning all the Joe men.
I remember that.
dan friesen
It starts with human sacrifice.
Right.
And the meat supply in a society becoming 80% human meat.
jordan holmes
Of course.
Ten days.
dan friesen
Right.
The priest class worshipping giant black pyramids.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And then women poison folks.
I don't know.
It's all nonsense.
jordan holmes
When you're not gonna poison.
dan friesen
Anyway, the killing is gonna start.
And Alex has a little bit of a ramble here about how he's pretty good at that stuff.
alex jones
I'm for the red revolution, but not the one of the communists.
See, they always invert everything.
We've all got red blood.
The blood of Christ frees us and heals us.
So I call for fighting fire with fire.
I call for countering the red terror with the red blood of Jesus and coming together with our red blood.
And saying, you think you scare us with your red star going to spill our blood?
We're more than happy when the rubber meets the road to spill blood, but believe it's going to be a lot more of your blood getting spilled than ours.
And we don't have anything to prove.
Good people are killing machines, organized, focused, ready, committed.
We don't want to kill to empower ourselves or to steal something or to feel like we're men.
We only kill to protect the innocent.
But when the killing starts, The killing's gonna go for a long time!
dan friesen
He's having a bad day.
jordan holmes
Yeah, every time he says, we don't want to kill for, and then blank, those are the reasons that they want to kill, and then he's like, to protect innocents, and you're like, come on, man.
dan friesen
You know that's not true.
jordan holmes
Yeah, come on, buddy.
We didn't tell you what reasons we thought you wanted to kill.
You were telling us.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So one of the reasons that Alex wants to kill is because he believes that COVID vaccines Are killing off everybody and it's part of this globalist plan and what have you.
jordan holmes
We're all dead.
dan friesen
Right.
And in service of this, he has to lie a lot.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
There were the same number of deaths and illnesses last year as the year before.
This year, I don't just have it anecdotally.
I've got the sources.
There is horrible COVID all over the world right now.
And it's not the COVID of last year that was the exaggerated, hyped-up virus.
It's the spike protein sloughing off and shedding.
And spreading, but the majority, 95% around the world's the number, of people ill took the shot.
And that's even mainline news now.
dan friesen
Alex does just have things anecdotally, by the way.
But even he knows that that's like, it doesn't prove anything, so I gotta pretend I have...
Stats that I couldn't possibly have.
jordan holmes
Couldn't possibly.
dan friesen
So he also says that there was the same amount of illness and death last year as every other year or the year before it, and that's a complete lie.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, that sounds right.
dan friesen
The Journal of the American Medical Association put out a paper in April that looked at excess deaths from March 2020 to January 2021 and found 522,368 excess deaths that took place during that period.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
According to the CDC, 2,854,838 resident deaths were reported in the United States in 2019.
It takes a while for concrete numbers to come out, so that report wasn't formally released until December 2020, and as such, we don't have a formalized number to cite right now, but the CDC has released a provisional count for 2020.
The provisional number of deaths in the U.S. that year, 2020, is 3,358,814.
The stuff Alex is talking about is just bullshit.
Like, there's nothing to back up what he's saying.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
There is a lot more death that took place last year.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and, well, I mean, it's good to have the numbers, but we all knew that anecdotally.
dan friesen
Well, Alex, he doesn't just have this stuff anecdotally.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
Now neither do we, but, you know.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's ghoulish, like this kind of denial of death.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's massively fucked up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So another thing that's fucked up is that Alex didn't go to his new boss's symposium.
He didn't go.
jordan holmes
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
He's not paid by Mike Lindell, okay?
Let's get that right out in front of the gate.
He doesn't take money from Mike Lindell unless people click on the links that he put on his website in order to get a referral fee.
dan friesen
Now, granted, I would say that in terms of the people that Alex has latched onto who are money folk, This is probably the most depressing.
Ted Anderson created his career, essentially, with his gold sale money.
And then Dr. Group took things to a whole new level with the supplements and what have you.
This is...
I don't even think this is going to last, his involvement with Mike Lindell.
I don't think this is going to go on long.
jordan holmes
Just from product.
Like, if you've fallen from gold to fake pills down to just pillows...
dan friesen
There's almost a narrative to that.
Like, gold gets you excited.
There's a gold rush.
You go out and you try and make your money in the mines, and then you need those pills to stay up and chip away at the ore, and then you go to bed.
And then you take a pillow.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and it's exactly like the...
dan friesen
This is putting his career to bed.
jordan holmes
This is exactly the career arc, too.
Yeah.
Gold rocketed up to the top, did too many drugs, and now he's asleep.
Yep.
dan friesen
So he didn't go to the symposium, which I thought was weird, but he has a full explanation.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
Next segment, I'm going to get into some big victories against the globalists.
A lot of you are asking, why aren't you at the cyber symposium?
Well, I took the airplane I was supposed to get on this morning, breaking down, and then not being able to get another flight until this evening, and then only getting one day at the symposium.
I took that as a thing to just stay here.
I was on the fence.
I wanted to go.
It's so jam-packed.
It's got a lot of great information.
We've got a feed of it up on Infowars.com, and so I just decided to stay here.
With my family and with the crew, which is my family.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It was an omen.
jordan holmes
The plane broke down?
dan friesen
The plane broke down.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
What are you going to do?
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know when.
The last time I heard of a plane completely breaking down.
alex jones
Couldn't get another flight.
jordan holmes
And you couldn't get another flight within another couple hours.
dan friesen
Hey, man.
unidentified
Look.
dan friesen
The flights from Austin to Sioux Falls were...
jordan holmes
It's a real small airplane.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Real booked.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't believe that Alex doesn't have the kind of money that he couldn't charter a plane or something.
He took a helicopter to go hang out with Steven Crowder.
jordan holmes
It would have to be a tank plane.
It would have to be a plane that has full armor plating all over it.
It's got to be in style.
dan friesen
Michael Lindell promised me a jetpack.
It didn't come through.
unidentified
Whatever.
jordan holmes
That sounds like a Mike Lindell promise, to be honest.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex talks in this next clip about how, you know, there's a lot of good news.
But a lot of times he just talks about bad news.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
It is true.
But there's a reason.
And then Alex starts spiraling off into nonsense.
alex jones
I see so much positive news every day, but I tend to only give you the bad news.
Because the one thing I want to put up with my crew is them holding any bad news back for me, and they're a great crew.
But I want to know bad news yesterday.
I don't want to know it later.
I want to see it up front.
I want to deal with it.
And so when I get up here, I remember 15 years ago, off record, and I agreed to meet him off record, I met with some globalists.
Second tier, well-known names right beneath the top people.
And they said, Alex, it's always the same speech.
Don't you want to be a star instead of a crusade?
You're going to fail.
The public's dumb.
You'll never be able to save them.
Don't you get when you put out all this bad news?
You just scare them and demoralize them.
They're a bunch of cowards.
They're not going to rally and fight like you will.
You're our kind of people.
And I'm like, really?
Because you don't feel like my type of people.
I don't feel empowered and close to God around you guys.
And I've told these people it's their face.
dan friesen
Yeah, I tell them to their face, man.
jordan holmes
You know, here's my theory.
dan friesen
My enemies talk to me exactly how I talk to myself in the mirror.
jordan holmes
So weird.
So weird how that works.
Furthermore, furthermore.
dan friesen
I'm so great that even the devil respects me.
jordan holmes
If there are so many fucking globalists coming up to him all the time saying, you're my people, maybe he is!
Maybe he is!
Maybe what they're saying to him is that you're never going to be what it is you think you are.
You're exactly like us.
dan friesen
You're a piece of shit.
jordan holmes
You're a giant piece of shit.
The devil doesn't respect you?
He admires you.
dan friesen
I have a secondary theory.
None of this happened.
jordan holmes
That's a good theory.
dan friesen
Now, part of the reason that I believe that is Alex gets into how he's had eight meetings with the globalists over the years.
jordan holmes
That's a very specific number.
dan friesen
And one of them that he gives us some details on, it doesn't sound so much like a meeting with the globalists as it does like maybe he was getting interviewed by somebody.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
And, uh, boo.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
alex jones
And the one thing they've told me over and over again is I've had at least six meetings with the globalists.
I guess seven.
You count over the phone.
And I guess eight if you count the Atlantic Monthly editor coming down here.
jordan holmes
I don't count a phone here.
alex jones
That's what that was, too.
But the reason this is important is they always say, Alex, you're just scaring them.
You think you're empowering them to fight back.
You're actually scaring them.
They're not going to fight now.
And I remember always saying, I'm betting on humanity.
I think if people know how horrible this is, they're going to wake up and decide to fight you instead of being slaves and being destroyed.
dan friesen
It's pretty telling that Alex thinks that being interviewed by someone at the Atlantic counts as some kind of meeting with the globalists.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's scary.
jordan holmes
Eight if you count meeting with the guy from Atlantic Monthly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I'm guessing one of the other meetings that he's referring to is like that time he was on Piers Morgan's show.
jordan holmes
Does nine include hot tubs?
dan friesen
It must.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Hot Springs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
So we're all the way up to ten.
dan friesen
He's had like a million meetings with globalists, if you count every time he's run into somebody on the hike and bike trail.
jordan holmes
That's a fourth tier globalist.
He doesn't count those.
dan friesen
I'm guessing the people who have interviewed Alex in the past have asked him why he spends so much of his time scaring his listeners.
That seems like a really obvious question to ask, and if I were a journalist, that might be a good place to start.
Alex experiences this as the globalists telling him that he's scaring the audience and that they're just going to submit to their fearful state.
But Alex believes that he's bringing them bad news in order to wake them up to reality and spur them to action.
It's a really cute thing.
Yeah.
Alex makes the audience scared in a very specific way.
A way where there's no productive outlet for your fear other than things that profit Alex personally.
There's no real action items that the audience can check off a list past promoting Alex's media outlet and buying products to make sure that Alex's media outlet continues to exist.
jordan holmes
And if you are a service employee, you should poison people.
These are other things you can do.
dan friesen
Well, we'll get to that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Beyond that, there's literally nothing you can do that's going to make a difference.
Take, for example, Alex's insistence that Operation Lockstep is a Rockefeller battle plan that was written a decade ago and is now being put into action, which is what the whole COVID pandemic has been about.
If you're in Alex's audience, what can you do with this information?
Obviously, you can give Alex money to keep talking about it, or you could spread links around to your friends so they see Alex's videos talking about it.
Ultimately, what can you do that's productive?
jordan holmes
Even Bill Cooper was like, let's buy Turner Broadcasting.
dan friesen
You can't do anything because this isn't real.
Do you try to band your neighbors together to have an anti-Operation Lockstep protest?
Do you write your elected officials and demand they put a stop to Operation Lockstep?
Do you call the news and demand that they look into the evils of Operation Lockstep?
You can't do any of that shit and have it mean anything because the thing that Alex is making you afraid of isn't real.
Putting together a protest is a waste of your energy, and any elected official or media entity worth their salt is going to look into your claims and immediately realize that there's no story there.
The underlying document is misrepresented and weaponized to be something it's not, so anyone who's not also just trying to get in on the grift isn't going to give this the time of day.
Alex fills his audience with impotent fear and outrage.
There's nothing they can do to proactively work to resolve the unsettled feelings that his irresponsible coverage of headlines creates in them.
This is the business model, because Alex knows that as long as he pretends to be the tip of the spear, the audience knows that their primary job is just to keep him in this fake fight.
Where this gets dicey is what you kind of brought up, and that a very small percentage of the audience will have a very different reaction, and will ultimately realize that there's no productive outlet for their anger and fear, except violence.
And Alex also caters to that.
You know, he fans those flames.
Politically.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
In a plausibly deniable way or whatever.
I was speaking metaphorically.
But there is a small percentage that end up...
Succumbing to a nihilistic, nothing is ever going to work.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And part of the reason that nothing is ever going to work is because you're fighting ghosts.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, and not just that, but it also creates a feedback loop for you where you believe that you will never be listened to.
Imagine if you do send a...
I'm going to send a letter to my elected official, which is what I'm supposed to do, and that letter is about all this bullshit.
dan friesen
I'm getting stonewalled.
jordan holmes
And then they don't respond to me, so clearly there's no reason to go through that.
The other thing that he's recommending...
You know, like, you can't send a letter to your state senator that's like, we demand an end to the Griffins screeching in the morning!
And they're like, I don't, what are you fucking talking about?
dan friesen
Most people don't have time to patiently explain to you, like, why the thing you're angry about isn't real.
jordan holmes
Dear sir, Griffins are mythological.
unidentified
Hear there not be dragons.
dan friesen
I know it says there's hippogriffs on the map.
Excuse me, sir.
jordan holmes
Excuse me, sir.
Even though you shouted Wingardium Levievosa, things are not going to float around you.
I'm sorry.
dan friesen
Indeed, they are not.
So now it's time for Alex's Story Corner.
A new segment on our show where Alex tells a long-winded story that seems to have nothing to do with anything.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
In this.
Uh, uh, edition of Alex's Story Corner.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
He gives a woman the Heimlich.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
I don't understand this, and I'm not a hero to know the story.
It was easy.
jordan holmes
Somebody else did it.
alex jones
I'm in a La Madeline French restaurant.
Not a fancy French restaurant.
It's like this chain of restaurants.
It's like almost fast food, but it's decent food.
I think they've gone bankrupt or something.
They're not in Austin anymore.
I don't know why I'm telling that part of the story.
jordan holmes
Good question.
alex jones
I'll just tell you what I remember.
And I'm in there with my ex-wife.
And my son is like a year and a half old, Rex.
And this woman, this fat woman, starts turning purple and choking.
Well, I'd gone to the bathroom.
And I come back out, and my ex-wife at the time goes, this woman's choking.
She's at this big table of like six, seven people.
She probably weighs 300 pounds.
She's probably five feet tall.
No one's helping her.
She's turning blue.
She's starting to fall on the table.
And I walk over and I go do the Heimlich maneuver.
And they all look at me like I'm a space alien.
And back then I was in really good shape.
I could have picked the layup over my head probably.
And I'm looking at these people and they're going 9-1-1, 9-1-1, 9-1-1 like parrots.
I mean they probably said 29, 9-1-1, 9-1-1.
And I'm just going to get, so I have to start pushing them out of the way.
They're going, hey, are you authorized?
Hey, what are you doing?
You don't know her.
So I get her and I do a Heimlich twice.
And a huge piece of bread comes out of her mouth.
Huge glob.
She turned out she was Down syndrome.
jordan holmes
What the fuck just happened here?
alex jones
They don't care about their daughter.
jordan holmes
What the fuck just happened?
alex jones
Their daughter just feeds half a freaking loaf of bread in her mouth.
And I'm smart in that I know rat-like people are.
I said, well, he was pretty fat.
I had to pick her up to get that rat.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
alex jones
First time, I was like, boom!
I took a fire department training course, and I was like 13 on the swim team.
unidentified
And they go, oh, thank you!
alex jones
You're a hero!
unidentified
Oh, oh!
alex jones
And then they all started looking at her going, is she hurt?
Is she hurt?
And I got my ex-wife, and I said, let's get out of here.
Because they would have sued me for saving her.
That's the spirit of the left.
dan friesen
This is weird.
That story is weird.
jordan holmes
That is a weird story.
dan friesen
I can identify at least three or four different points where I think, like, The story did not go the way Alex is presenting it.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, no.
I mean, this is the type of story where it's like, somebody else did this and you just have remembered it in your brain to where you're the hero.
That's what's happened.
dan friesen
That's entirely possible.
Or, like, people might be alarmed by the way Alex interacts with people and not want him charging their loved one who might be choking.
alex jones
Everybody!
unidentified
This fat person with Down syndrome is choking!
jordan holmes
Get out of the way!
Sir, I don't know why you said any of those words.
dan friesen
Leave us alone.
jordan holmes
None of that is happening.
Please stop hitting our child.
She's fine.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe she wasn't choking.
Maybe she was.
Maybe this did happen.
Maybe it didn't.
But I don't know what any of it means.
I guess that Alex has decided that they were going to sue him if he didn't leave.
jordan holmes
I guess.
dan friesen
Which is based on nothing, because even from his telling of it, they said, you're a hero, thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he had to bail, because they were going to sue him for saving her life.
jordan holmes
Alex, you're a hero.
alex jones
Hey, we gotta get out of here.
jordan holmes
Those people called me a hero, that means they're about to sue me.
dan friesen
That's the spirit of the left.
jordan holmes
That's the left.
dan friesen
It just means nothing.
These rambling-ass stories mean nothing.
jordan holmes
The entire restaurant gave us a standing ovation.
You know they're about to kill us.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's a trap.
jordan holmes
It's a trap.
dan friesen
No one likes me.
So Alex gets to cover in some other headlines, and here's the first.
alex jones
Here's some more interesting news.
UN globalists arriving in UK for Climate Summit won't face COVID restrictions imposed on British citizens.
All other foreign travelers and citizens will be put in quarantine and controlled, but not private corporate leaders and government leaders coming to set up the world government.
Infowars.com.
Isn't that just special?
dan friesen
So Alex is kind of fudging some details about this upcoming climate summit taking place in Glasgow.
It's called the COP26 summit.
There have been some discussion in the news about how the normal COVID precautions and rules are being eased a little bit for the people coming in for the conference, but that doesn't mean they're just ignoring safety measures altogether, the way Alex is making it sound.
For one thing, delegates coming in from countries that are on the red list will still have to isolate in a quarantine hotel for 10 days upon arrival if they've not been vaccinated, and five days if they are fully vaccinated.
According to the BBC, quote, there are also requirements to self-isolate for 10 days for those coming from amber countries who are not fully vaccinated via approved programs in the UK, US or Europe.
Even beyond that, the summit says, quote, they will have strict COVID testing protocols in place, including regular testing to ensure the health and well-being of all staff, attendees, and the public.
And, quote, there will be further public health measures in place at the COP26, including social distancing, face coverings when delegates are not seated, and a comprehensive set of hygiene and ventilation measures.
So, I mean, there's still tons of precaution being taken into account.
It's just, how are you going to strike a balance between this very necessary climate summit that is clearly important?
Oh, why?
A few reasons.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And also take into consideration COVID concerns.
You don't want to say, okay, nobody can do this at all.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because they already postponed the summit from last year.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, if you want to stretch and say that it's unfair, you've got a point.
But if you're mad about it, there's so much other shit to go.
Like, what are we doing?
dan friesen
It does seem, too, from everything I can tell, they are going out of their way to still be as cautious as possible.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex has another headline, and this one's a little bit iffier.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And other folks are fighting back.
Parents are filing complaint against Atlanta Elementary School for segregating students by race.
Yes, they'd actually put white classrooms and black classrooms to then teach whites they're evil, to teach blacks they're communists.
dan friesen
So recently, Keila Posey, a mother of a black student at Mary Lynn Elementary School in Atlanta, filed a complaint alleging civil rights violations on behalf of her daughter.
According to the telling of the story, she was discussing which second grade teacher would be the best for her daughter with the school's principal, and when she brought What?
Yeah.
unidentified
It's alleged that of the six second grade teachers at the school, only two were options for black students.
dan friesen
At this point, I can find these allegations, and I can also find some indications that other parents of students at the school feel like these allegations are unfounded.
Multiple of them point to school yearbooks as evidence that there are not black or white classes at the school, but I haven't seen the pictures of these yearbooks.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't know exactly.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I feel like this is a bit of a difficult situation, since I don't know all the details, and it's really hard to figure out what's actually going on.
It only makes matters more confusing that the Atlanta public school system released a statement that said, APS does not condone assigning students to classrooms based solely on race.
When we learned of allegations of this content occurring during virtual instruction at Mary Lynn Elementary School in August 2020, the district conducted a review and took immediate and appropriate action at that time to resolve the issue.
That kind of reads as if there was legitimate segregation going on, but it's also not specific enough to be able to determine what the exact situation is.
I feel like as this civil rights complaint progresses, we will probably learn a bit more, but as of right now, I feel like this is as much as I'm comfortable with concluding.
But I can also tell you that no matter what the reality of the story ends up being, it's definitely not what Alex is reporting.
He's claiming that this classroom segregation was being done to teach white kids that they're inherently evil and teach black kids to be communists.
jordan holmes
That would be a very weird thing to do.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Ultimately, his version of the story has the focus being that the white students are the ones being most victimized by this, when in reality, if the allegations are accurate, this is a case where educational opportunities are being withheld from black students solely based on their race.
jordan holmes
It does seem like, historically at least, segregation has not been about dissidence.
Advantaging white people in any way.
dan friesen
And it doesn't seem like this story has any indications of that either.
This is kind of an essential piece of Alex Jones' racism.
He has an insatiable desire to co-opt the oppression that other groups experience and recontextualize it as secretly being about oppression against white people, and it's honestly really sick.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, I mean...
What you're doing is taking the thing that you've done to other people based solely upon race, claiming that they're doing it to you in order to justify continuing to oppress those people.
It's not just sick, it's fucking insane.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's more or less the game plan.
If you were to be a coach.
jordan holmes
You're drawing up X's and O's.
dan friesen
So Alex, he tries to hit these headlines, doesn't go in-depth in it.
And he realizes, like, man, it was really fun talking about how I had meetings with the globalists.
I should talk more about that.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, that's more fun.
dan friesen
This is so, so stupid.
alex jones
You know, I was thinking about something this morning.
I thought, I ought to tell people a story, but I can't because I had to sign a non-disclosure to do it.
jordan holmes
When?
Show it to me.
unidentified
Prove it.
alex jones
In hindsight, I wouldn't have signed a non-disclosure.
unidentified
What are you fucking talking about?
alex jones
Let me just tell you this way.
I recently met with representatives of the globalists.
And they told me, as if I didn't know this, we are criminals.
Like, you know, you've seen the Godfather movie?
We control things, and our job is to destroy you.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Hey, Alex, just so you know, just so you know, I need you to know this, we are criminals and we run things!
dan friesen
Shut the fuck up, he hasn't signed the NDA!
unidentified
Now this is an NDA!
jordan holmes
You can't tell anybody about this that we're criminals and we run everything!
You signed the NDA!
unidentified
Oh, God.
dan friesen
These people, like Alex, he just thinks that NDAs are like magic or something.
A non-disclosure agreement cannot involve the non-disclosure of criminal activities.
You cannot be coerced to keep criminal actions or confessions secret because of an NDA.
jordan holmes
It becomes void.
We were trying to get Al Capone, but he convinced all of his witnesses to sign NDAs!
So there's nothing we can do!
dan friesen
I gotta say, this NDA is ironclad.
jordan holmes
The eight great families of the mob always sign NDAs.
dan friesen
You know how easy it would be to have a conspiracy, a criminal conspiracy?
jordan holmes
If you just sign NDAs at any point in time?
The easiest!
dan friesen
It's so childish.
It's so stupid.
I don't know.
I would guess that maybe Alex is talking about a deposition or something.
I don't know.
So funny.
One of the things that's really fun is he then starts struggling to try and understand why these globalists would do the thing that they're not doing.
Right.
Why?
Why would they do this?
Why would they have a meeting just to tell me they're evil?
jordan holmes
It is impossible to understand the behaviors of the creepy monsters in my head.
dan friesen
Yep.
alex jones
They're like, we're criminals.
We're going to destroy you.
I'm like, you didn't think I knew that?
You met with me to tell me?
unidentified
No, we didn't think you knew that!
alex jones
I mean, it's not even...
dan friesen
At the end there, it's just like it's Job from Arrested Development.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, a $30,000 suit!
unidentified
Yep, that's bad.
jordan holmes
That is bad.
dan friesen
I can explain to him exactly what's going on here.
jordan holmes
Okay, go for it.
dan friesen
The globalists wouldn't have a meeting with you just to say that they're evil because you made that up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that does make sense.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Pretty simple.
alex jones
Oh.
Wow, shit.
dan friesen
So, he's killing a lot of time.
Yeah, it does seem like his font has gone all the way up to size 45. He is wasting so much time that he could be using to talk about victories.
jordan holmes
That's right, I forgot that's what we were talking about.
dan friesen
But unfortunately, I think one of the problems is that his staff is interrupting him pretty regularly.
They need to tell him about, like, breaking news.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
unidentified
Updates.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
Every five minutes, they come in and give me a new article.
jordan holmes
Those bastards!
alex jones
Of another restaurant.
Another hotel, another wedding venue, where you can't go if you're not injected with this poison they call a vaccine, and if you don't accept this medical ID, and because they say we want to keep everyone safe, even though when you take the shot, it makes you create mutants and makes you shed, and actually, you're admittedly who's making everyone sick.
They don't care, and guess what?
I looked at the business owners, and I love women.
jordan holmes
What is that a good start?
alex jones
That's all there is.
My son's 18. He's moved out.
I'm sitting there with my wife and a bunch of women.
That's who I hang out with is women.
I love women!
jordan holmes
Sounds like you're about to tell us otherwise.
alex jones
But do you know who every person in Austin is shutting their business down unless you take a shot?
It's women.
Who want to be impregnated psychically by Bill Gates and by Fauci and by Jeffrey Epstein.
That's what it is.
It's all Epstein's plan.
jordan holmes
Epstein's plan.
alex jones
And they just, they want to have the foreign stuff put in them.
They want the dead baby DNA.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Okay.
dan friesen
What are you going to do with this?
jordan holmes
What is this?
What are you saying?
All right.
Hey, listen.
First, they came for the vaccine mandates for the wedding venues, and I said nothing because I wasn't getting married.
And then it goes on.
dan friesen
Hey, man.
I've done some research into all of these businesses that are coming in to me every five minutes from my staff, which seems like, first of all, a waste of their time.
Unnecessary updates for Alex.
And all of these businesses are run by women because they want to get psychically impregnated by Fauci and Bill Gates.
jordan holmes
Has he ever noticed that many of his gripes about women center on the idea of if men at all allow them to get out of pocket, they will poison everybody and run the world with vaccine mandates and try and fuck Bill Gates all the time?
dan friesen
He's a mess.
Yeah.
So, we're getting to the point in the show where the emergency alert...
Is scheduled to happen.
jordan holmes
Ah, yes.
We've all been very excited.
dan friesen
Because there's a pre-announced time that it's going to happen.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Will he still be surprised by it?
dan friesen
Alex is still trying to play games.
alex jones
Well, in about seven seconds, most telephones and cable TV radio systems will be taken over by FEMA and President Joe Biden in a martial law drill.
That's 1220.
unidentified
Not too far away.
How are we supposed to...
alex jones
So, folks, tell us what you see unfolding and going on.
But maybe he's going to postpone it.
They did announce all these big announcements for today.
They have the White House ready for it.
But a lot of times politicians are 20, 30 minutes late.
So we'll watch that as it all unfolds.
dan friesen
So there's going to be this emergency alert test thing, and then Biden will come out 20 minutes later or something and say, hey, psych, it's martial law.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay, all right.
So you know how when you've planned the emergency alert...
dan friesen
To be really scary?
jordan holmes
Down to the very second.
dan friesen
You mean the actual people, not Alex?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Down to the very second you know exactly when it's going to begin.
Countdown clock and everything.
You've known about it for months.
You know, no big deal.
And yet still you're telling me that on the day you're going to announce martial law after this fucking months long planning.
You're still going to be like 20 or 30 minutes late?
Like, what's going to hang you up from declaring martial law?
dan friesen
Biden's weed guy was late.
He's got to blaze up before he goes out there and declare martial law.
jordan holmes
Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Have you ever declared martial law on weed?
jordan holmes
If it was set to happen at 420, I would be like, okay, that's a fun martial law.
That's a funny martial law.
dan friesen
So, Alex, like...
I think that he's a little disappointed because the alert happens and it's not really anything.
But he's got a sort of like, okay, we're in that space where it's happening around the country.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I'm going to just vamp a little bit.
So vamping, he talks about how the Pentagon and all these evil guys, they planned the Matrix 25 years ago.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Mic down for this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This is phenomenal.
This is just outrageous.
alex jones
Again, in mainline Pentagon documents 25 years ago about we've been tasked by DARPA and the Rockefeller Foundation as well as the Carnegie Foundation to end war.
To end war, we must end the family and the human-mammal dynamic.
We have a plan to put humans in tanks from birth with virtual reality once computer systems are up to that level.
Where people will live in peace and we'll be able to have a mainframe computer that guides them through life and the power of their own heat will run the computers.
That was a theoretical DARPA plan from 1977.
They made the movie The Matrix out of it.
Yep, they're doing the EAS right now.
National Periodic Test EAS Emergency Alert System.
There it is.
It's taking over.
unidentified
Keep going with it.
alex jones
Oh, that's right.
The engineers are telling us, well, no, we can't air the tones.
If we air the tones, that can take over the scramblers of the radio station.
But that's not the tones.
That's the old system that would launch tones to take over the radio or TV station.
Now they don't need the tones because they're hardwired and everything, but I won't explain it to the engineers.
Anyways, the point is that you can show the image of it.
I don't know who told you you can't show that, but that's not the case.
I'm not mad at anybody, but my God, what a broke-back country.
We can't even show you the emergency alert.
Okay, it doesn't exist.
Great, it didn't happen.
I mean, I'm walking off at this point.
I mean, it's like I live in a twilight zone.
It's like a year and a half ago during the lockdown.
I told you it's all BS.
We're an essential company.
We can stay open.
No one will believe me.
It took me weeks to convince anybody of it.
Not mad.
I'm not mad.
Let's go to rebroadcast, though.
What do we got here?
What do we got here?
Am I allowed to show a video off my show?
Am I allowed to even be on air?
Probably not.
Nothing's allowed.
I'm so free!
jordan holmes
Rand Paul can't talk.
alex jones
No one can talk.
Air whatever you want.
unidentified
Attempts to divert...
While King Obama attempts to divert the public from...
dan friesen
Oh boy.
That's not good.
jordan holmes
Did that spiral into a whiny tantrum?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I can't play the beeps because of course I can't.
dan friesen
Because the engineer or whoever's the producer is concerned that playing those beeps over the radio stations would override a signal or something.
I'm not sure if that is the technology that's still used, but I don't know what size radio stations Alex is on around the country.
Maybe there are some people who use...
Kind of antiquated radio systems.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I have no idea.
It seems like a legitimate concern if you're a producer to have.
Better safe than sorry.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
Yeah, Alex freaks out, storms off.
I love that, though.
Like, play whatever you want.
jordan holmes
Play whatever you want.
I am a man baby.
dan friesen
When I listen to something like that, the first thing that comes to mind is...
jordan holmes
Professionalism.
dan friesen
Sure.
And if I were the globalist, I would meet with this guy.
jordan holmes
If I am the devil, I'm watching that and thinking, this guy needs to be on my team.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
He's the tip of the spear!
dan friesen
This guy's a number one draft pick.
jordan holmes
In an actual violent confrontation, clearly all we need to do is present a minor annoyance to him and he will walk away.
dan friesen
Yeah, this seems like he...
He's one big Achilles heel.
He's just...
jordan holmes
I got a cut!
I'm done fighting this war!
I'm out of here!
This really hurts!
Fight whatever you want!
dan friesen
It's not actually even a cut.
That's mild irritation.
jordan holmes
I got a bruise.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
I bumped into a door.
jordan holmes
I quit.
I think I have a little bit of a reaction.
dan friesen
So Alex comes back.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
Why?
dan friesen
If I worked for him, I would not let him come back.
jordan holmes
No, go away.
Go away.
dan friesen
You left the show.
You're done.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
You're done.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
It seems like there should be that kind of level of like, hey.
dan friesen
If I was his dad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Who does work at InfoWars, apparently.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
I'd be like, son, you quit.
You're a quitter.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You're not going back on the air today.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
You don't get to have a tantrum and then come back and pretend nothing happened.
jordan holmes
Would you accept this kind of behavior at a Little League game?
Absolutely not.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
If you're the coach...
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You're done.
dan friesen
This is disgraceful behavior.
jordan holmes
Hey, hey, okay.
I know you made an error on that play and then stormed off the field and we had to replace you with a new shortstop, but now that it's a couple outs later, of course you can go back into the game.
dan friesen
You yelled, I'm not mad, while throwing your bat at the opposing team.
jordan holmes
That umpire has to have knee replacement surgery now.
dan friesen
So Alex comes back with a very exciting announcement.
alex jones
I get frustrated because I've covered 20% of what I was ready to cover.
And a lot of it's my fault not getting to it all.
jordan holmes
A lot of it.
alex jones
I'm co-hosting The War with Owen Schroyer today.
3 p.m. Central after the next hour.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Great.
Oh, my God.
Fuck you.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
I didn't do my job.
jordan holmes
Listen, I've wasted a lot of your time on my show, and now I'm going to waste more time on somebody else's show.
dan friesen
I spent a lot of time lying about NDAs and meetings with globalists.
I did have a little baby freakout, and I left the show.
jordan holmes
Listen, you have the best baby freakouts.
Don't you forget that!
unidentified
We are running everything, and we need those baby freakouts.
dan friesen
Don't tell anybody we said that, though.
jordan holmes
NDA.
dan friesen
I like the idea that these two things are simultaneously true.
Alex Jones is the most important truth teller in the world.
He has a singular ability to understand the globalists in a way that nobody else in human history has ever been able to.
jordan holmes
For over two decades now.
dan friesen
That's the first thing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The second thing is he thinks that it's just fine to let his engineer decide what to play on a show.
When he storms off, play whatever you want.
Some intern that he has hired.
jordan holmes
Yeah, just some random person.
dan friesen
Yeah, their instinct is going to be as good as mine.
jordan holmes
I'm sure.
dan friesen
So, fuck Alex.
I'm not going to listen to the war room for him to come back and try again.
No.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
So we go to the 12th here, and...
You know, we didn't have a martial law breakout.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And also the cyber symposium that Mike Lindell is putting on is mighty disappointing.
jordan holmes
It's not going great.
dan friesen
And so here's where Alex is at.
alex jones
But this is a soft kill weapon.
dan friesen
The vaccine.
alex jones
That affects every person differently and is just absolutely so evil and so well thought out and so premeditated that when you see a big flash on the horizon of a hydrogen bomb going off, you know what that means.
With this, because it's a slow kill, because it's a soft kill, the people don't know what has hit them.
And then I can read all the Pentagon reports to you, silent weapons for quiet wars.
dan friesen
That's not a Pentagon report.
That is a hoax document that Alex...
Oh, my God.
That's amazing.
In the year of our Lord 2021, Alex is such a dum-dum.
He's willing to cite silent weapons for quiet wars.
Amazing.
jordan holmes
These guys, like...
Do they think that this one is going to be the last one?
Or do they think they're going to be able to...
Do you know what I mean?
Like...
Eventually, it's going to be a year from now, and the people who have gotten the vaccine, there will be more of them, and they will all still not be dead.
So what do they do then?
dan friesen
I think that what you do then is you pretend that all the massive death is being covered up, and you make a mountain out of a molehill any time there's any kind of adverse event that happens.
I think that's probably the strategy at that point.
jordan holmes
Don't you?
But, I mean, this one's just so big, you know?
It feels like you can't wriggle out of, hey, 80% of people are gonna be dead in six months.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
I agree with you in terms of, like, rational minds.
And I think that...
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
I think that you and I can look at this and say, like, there's no way out of this.
There's no doubling back.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But...
I would have said that a hundred times over the course of Alex's career.
And I have said, on this show even, like, wow, he's fucked.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
How's he gonna get out of this?
It's a dead-end narrative.
jordan holmes
No, you're right.
dan friesen
And granted, this was much bigger than anything I've seen him try to pull off in the past, but I don't...
As long as there's money, I don't know what...
jordan holmes
And how old?
I'm 34 now.
I have not gone two years of my life without some Christians telling me it's the end times.
So, of course, they're willing to just keep...
Oh, not this time.
We'll wait until the next one.
And this time, it's the end times.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that...
Alex is the arbiter of information and truth.
And so, in some ways...
As long as he's able to feign confidence in whatever way he walks back stuff and pretends that he's not actually wrong, I think that he'll be able to keep some amount of the audience.
Granted, there'll be probably some people who float away, but...
As long as there's money, it'll trick some people.
jordan holmes
If I were them, I would be working on my walk-back strategy now.
dan friesen
I would have started a year ago.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
I'd have been like, okay, well, when this doesn't work, how are we going to pull this off?
It's going to take us a lot of nights to figure this one out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This is the sort of thing that I'd have a flow chart for multiple steps ahead.
jordan holmes
As things start changing.
dan friesen
So, on the 12th, there was a bit of stuff going around on social media about one of these nice...
Alex was right about everything kind of moment.
jordan holmes
Oh, come on.
dan friesen
It was about a Judicial Watch and Center for Medical Progress release of some documents about the University of Pittsburgh procuring fetuses for research.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Okay.
Fun.
dan friesen
It's not really a bombshell in any way, but Alex, of course, because people are talking about how he was right about everything, he's got to cover it.
alex jones
Here's Fox News.
Here's Associated Press today.
Criminal investigation by the Justice Department of whether major universities got delivery of live babies.
Well, it's in the frickin' contract that they deliver third term, seven, eighth, nine month, and even past born children that are taken out of the vagina.
These are poor women sometimes that show up at the hospital and they got the baby.
I mean, they're killing babies that show up at the hospital.
dan friesen
So, this is a bit inaccurate, but it gets worse.
alex jones
You know what else was in the documents?
They actually put in a bunch of contracts that they wanted minority babies.
They don't say why in California and Ohio and New York and Illinois.
It says right here in the article, we want black and brown babies.
Oh, but if I say the wrong thing, I'm a racist white man.
But if the state and these companies are killing and targeting black babies for harvesting, that's all right.
dan friesen
So, like I said, this story is just about documents that were released by Judicial Watch and the Center for Medical Progress.
Both of these entities are pretty usual suspects on our show and are complete shitheads who should never be trusted.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The one element of this story that stuck out is this second clip here.
Folks, they've really glommed onto.
It's this specific detail that there are these grant documents that require that some of the fetuses, a percentage of them that they take in, they need to be demographically diverse.
Yeah.
unidentified
Anyone who's not a shithead grifter would be able to tell you this isn't an attempt to target minorities, but it's in keeping in line with making sure that the studies that they carry out follow proper distribution patterns so as to be reflective of the general public.
dan friesen
Just like with Dennis Montgomery, Judicial Watch and Center for Medical Progress are names that you should hear attached to a story and you should just ignore it.
There's never going to be anything worthwhile that comes out.
And every single time that I've heard their names associated with stories, there is a simple explanation for how they're intentionally misrepresenting something to push a political aim.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Every time.
dan friesen
Same with...
Project Veritas.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
All of these names.
Ignorable.
jordan holmes
It's the exact opposite problem that's, like, the problem that's being addressed is far larger, which is that most medical testing over our history has been done on white men, so we know exhaustively what works for white dudes, but medications for women and for minorities have been understudied because they're not in there.
dan friesen
That is definitely a concern.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's a huge problem, and they're finally trying to do something.
dan friesen
Speaking of which, here's Alex messing around with photography.
alex jones
So again, I'm going to explain something to you.
The major national gay pride organization just gave their highest award to an image of a toddler child with men in bondage uniforms with sex swings that they put themselves in and have sex with other men in.
That's what men are doing.
That's their issue.
This is with a two-year-old child.
And they're all lined up, basically standing around the child.
And the message is, we're about to gangbang this two-year-old.
Now, I don't want to show you the photo, but we're going to show it today.
jordan holmes
It's a weird message.
alex jones
They're not naked.
But that's what this is.
Bondage and BDSM and all this crap.
dan friesen
There was a right-wing media outrage cycle that was kicked off.
Initially, this traces back to a tweet that was posted by Andy Ngo, who's another name that you can add to that list of people whose points you should probably just ignore.
jordan holmes
That giant shithead.
dan friesen
Apparently, during Pride in the Netherlands, there was a contest seeking photos that captured the year's theme of celebrating diversity.
Fifty photos were selected, and this one was one that particularly stood out.
According to the Postmillennial, which is a source I generally would never cite, but no one else is covering this dumb story, the jury said of this picture, quote, This photo in its composition, child in the foreground, men preparing for canal parade in the background, everyone busy with their own activities and fascinations, sublimely depicts what will hopefully remain self-evident, that we, unhampered by prejudices and almost unsuspectingly, all may and can exist side by side.
I've seen this picture, and that seems like a pretty decent take on it.
Certainly, that's closer to what I experienced seeing the photo than Alex's interpretation, which is just disgusting nonsense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
There's just no way around.
If that's what you think is about to happen, that's because you're fucked up.
unidentified
That's you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You're a monster.
dan friesen
From my understanding of it, the picture is a child who's like...
Holding a swing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like a playground swing.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Not a sex swing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course not.
dan friesen
And then there's people in leather behind her.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But they're not all looking at her or anything.
They're all minding their business or getting their stuff latched.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, it's a picture about how prejudice is learned.
dan friesen
Yeah, and the situation, too, is that the child's mother...
Had let these people change to go to the parade at her home.
And so it's them getting ready to go to the parade.
Sure.
It's just disgusting.
Alex's interpretation is disgusting.
jordan holmes
No, that's because if that's what you get, you're disgusting and you should deal with that.
I am sick of having to deal with the fact that you can't deal with any time there's an adult and a child in the same room that you don't like.
You think they're about to fuck.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's fucked up.
dan friesen
I have a difficult time with these projections.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex, what's one word that Alex uses to describe doctors that he likes?
jordan holmes
Innies.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Oh.
Doctors he likes?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm going to have to go with well-respected, top of his field, the pinnacle, top tier.
dan friesen
Prestigious.
jordan holmes
Prestigious shit.
God damn it.
dan friesen
That's his favorite word.
So he talks about a prestigious doctor here.
alex jones
And here he is, another prestigious doctor, Dr. Richard M. Fleming, explains how the vaccines are biological weapons with Dale Bigtree.
unidentified
This virus is a man-made gain-of-function virus paid for by U.S. taxpayers' dollars, including monies that came from the Department of Defense.
dan friesen
Del Bigtree is an anti-vax lunatic, so if someone's being interviewed by him, it's a pretty safe bet that they're not on the level.
In this case, though, Alex is saying that this guy is really prestigious.
I thought I'd check that out.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
As it turns out, Richard M. Fleming is a bit of a career scammer.
In 2002, he billed Medicare, Medicaid, and Blue Cross Blue Shield for, quote, falsely represented medical tests.
jordan holmes
Ah, but he did it prestigiously.
dan friesen
Yes.
In 2004, he, quote, submitted false data after being paid to perform a clinical study on the health benefits of a soy chip food product.
This all led to him being sentenced to five years probation and six months house arrest along with being forced to pay a restitution of $107,244.24.
jordan holmes
Man, you can get jail time for stealing fucking...
dan friesen
Probation.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
You can get jail time for stealing from a fucking gas station, but if you do this shit, if you run a years-long scam, five years probation, thank you.
dan friesen
I'm sure that he would probably say that he never admitted to anything and he's totally innocent, but he did plead guilty.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well...
dan friesen
Fleming is no quitter, though, so he decided to keep trying to put out studies, which ultimately led to the FDA disbarring him in 2018.
He was disbarred, quote, for 10 years from providing services in any capacity to a person that has an approved or pending drug product.
unidentified
Now, it takes a lot of prestige to get there.
dan friesen
Quite prestigious.
Yeah.
That's somebody who's, uh, I don't know.
jordan holmes
One of the most prestigious doctors around.
Now, now, it took him ten years of not being allowed to practice by law in order to gain the level of prestige that he needs.
dan friesen
He's such a prestigious maverick that the FDA is afraid to have him involved.
unidentified
Afraid.
jordan holmes
They had to put a legal injunction against him, and he had to sign an NDA because they told him that they were criminals.
dan friesen
But also, if they didn't stop him...
From being involved with these studies and these trials, no other doctors could get work.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
That's why the FDA had to step in and disbar him, because he would be doing everything.
jordan holmes
He's too good.
dan friesen
He's too prestigious.
jordan holmes
He's too good at doctoring.
dan friesen
So one of the conspiracies that Alex has been dancing around with is this, that when they said the hospitals were full last time, it was all bullshit.
The hospitals were actually empty.
And now hospitals are full, and they're actually full.
jordan holmes
Oh, they get to go both ways, huh?
And nobody's going to stop them, and we're not going to have any consequences for this whatsoever.
dan friesen
Now, I will say, this is not...
It's not the argument that Alex is making, but it is a little bit unnerving how it's not being treated as much of an emergency this time.
And part of that may be...
jordan holmes
Oh, do you mean from the society at large?
dan friesen
From everybody.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah, yeah, okay.
dan friesen
I feel like people were a bit more severe last time.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
And I don't know if this is in part because of...
Vaccination prevalence.
I don't know if it's because of poor messaging.
jordan holmes
Exhaustion, maybe.
dan friesen
Could be, partially.
Or it could be the exhaustion that comes from recognizing that these people aren't going to listen.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Like, you can yell all you want about the hospitals being full and it being a very severe situation.
And I think that that's right to do.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's not going to change.
Governor DeSantis' behavior.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
It's not going to change people like Alex's behavior at all.
The thing that you would need in order to address the problem is an impossibility.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I don't think that that justifies not treating it like the type of problem that it is.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But I also don't know what to do.
Anyway, that's a real thing.
Alex's fake thing is that they were pretending the hospitals were full last time.
jordan holmes
So now they are full because they're filled with vaccinated people.
dan friesen
Right.
That's what it is.
And the vaccinated people are actually the ones who are getting everyone sick.
Right.
jordan holmes
Topsy-turvy world.
dan friesen
But, I mean, we don't really need to deal with this too much because Alex kind of gets distracted in the middle of talking about it.
alex jones
And so I could call people I know that work at hospitals around the country.
I could check statistics.
I could send reporters out.
And last year, at this time, the hospitals were empty.
They wouldn't do all the real care they needed, so there was a lot of death from cancers and heart attacks.
But they were empty.
They were paying the hospitals not to operate.
And then...
Hey guys, you guys are sending Mike Adams over my earpiece.
I'd really appreciate it if you cut that off.
That'd be really awesome.
It's been happening for a while.
I was going to ignore it.
But I guess you're getting ready for the show later today.
That'd be awesome if it actually got turned off.
unidentified
Thanks.
alex jones
Try to get back to my daughter, please.
I'm not mad at the crew.
I'm very emotional about all this.
Very important points I need to make, and I'm just going to stop right there.
jordan holmes
Play whatever you want.
unidentified
Ha ha ha.
alex jones
It's very hard to sit up here on air.
And have literal thousands of documents, total admission, open and shut, like I've been saying the last few weeks.
You pour a gallon of gasoline on somebody, you light them on fire, they're going to burn to death.
dan friesen
Alex gets back to causal relationships.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
Now we know how.
dan friesen
I get a little worried about myself from time to time.
And one of the things that prompts worry in me is that I think I can understand Alex a little better than I should.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because I heard that clip, and when he's breathing heavy, and then he's like, I have total admission, total proof.
I was like, I know what happened there.
You got distracted by something, and you forgot what you were saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You forgot you were talking about the hospitals being empty before, but they're full now, and you can prove everything.
jordan holmes
Mike Adamson is here.
dan friesen
He completely forgot.
He has no connection to it, and he just is like, I don't even know where I was.
And that's usually where he'll have a breakdown and storm off set.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But in this case, he doesn't.
He tries to hold it together.
jordan holmes
He's gonna power through.
dan friesen
And then, in like a minute after this, he basically admits exactly what I suspected was the case.
alex jones
Too nice to just fly over with helicopters and nerve gases.
That would cause fires and explosions and people would still survive and organize against it and know they had no choice.
But if it is a covert attack, people want to rationalize.
They don't want to believe it's happening.
They don't want to believe it's taking place in their lifetime.
It is.
It's happened.
unidentified
It's happened.
alex jones
I'm going to calm down and try to come back and say what I was going to say earlier.
I'm not mad at the crew.
There's all sorts of equipment there.
They were checking a guess, and the audio came through, and I forgot what I was going to say, so I got mad.
jordan holmes
I forgot what I was going to say.
alex jones
I tried to ignore it for a while.
I just thought it would stop after a while.
It didn't.
I'm going to try to reset.
I'm going to try to come back and hit all these clips and all this news.
I've got a bunch of these documents, which I didn't cover last week.
I said I would.
I don't even want to read this on air.
Do you want to hear about them keeping the little kids alive and sucking all their blood and harvesting them?
Because, I mean, you talk about vampires.
That's what this is.
It's just done medically.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
unidentified
I Yeah, so Alex doesn't want to read those studies because they don't say the things that he needs them to say in order for these narratives to stand up to scrutiny.
dan friesen
So that's why he doesn't do that.
jordan holmes
I forgot what I was going to say, so I got mad.
And then that's mad is a medical problem.
dan friesen
I think that...
You know, acceptance and self-awareness is the first step in terms of making progress.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And for Alex to actually say on air, I lost my train of thought, so I got mad.
jordan holmes
It's a good first step.
unidentified
It is.
jordan holmes
It's a good first step.
unidentified
It is.
dan friesen
It's certainly better than him storming off and saying, you play whatever you want.
jordan holmes
True.
True.
That is true.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I worry about myself, though, because as soon as I've heard the first clip of it actually happening, I was like, ooh.
Alex lost his train of thought.
He's getting mad.
And then he says, I lost my train of thought.
I'm getting mad.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
Oh, the abyss has looked back, Dan.
Hey, Dan, it's me, the abyss here.
How you doing?
dan friesen
It's very troubling.
Thankfully, I have candy.
jordan holmes
But Kit Kat, you gotta knock it out.
dan friesen
Gotta cut it out.
jordan holmes
Gotta cut it out.
dan friesen
I've got candy and seasons of Survivor that I'm not enjoying, so I'll be okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah, take that, Abyss.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, these doctors that Alex likes.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
Prestigious.
dan friesen
So prestigious.
jordan holmes
Super prestigious.
dan friesen
You know how prestigious they are?
jordan holmes
Fraud?
dan friesen
Jordan and his prime.
Michael Jordan, not Jordan Holmes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jordan and his prime.
You know, when he was about 17 playing high school baseball.
Jordan and his prime.
dan friesen
Jordan and his prime, and he was hosting at Zany's.
jordan holmes
Made it to the pinnacle of my profession, buddy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, so this is silly.
alex jones
It'd be like having Dale Earnhardt and his pride, in his prime.
jordan holmes
And his pride.
alex jones
In 1989 or something, or 1990, tell you, this car's got a problem, its engine's gonna blow.
Don't put it out on the track.
You're like, who are you?
You're just Dale Earnhardt.
It'd be like Michael Jordan in his prime.
And then he tells the coach, that's not a good player.
I think you should cut him off the team, or I don't want him out here with me.
They're going to lose us the game.
dan friesen
So real quick, I want to address both of these examples.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't know if Dale Earnhardt Jr. is the best mechanic in the world.
So maybe he wouldn't actually be the person you'd want to talk to about the car itself.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
He's a driver.
Yeah.
He knows some things about driving them.
jordan holmes
Generally speaking.
dan friesen
He doesn't necessarily know everything about the cars.
And Michael Jordan is a notorious asshole.
jordan holmes
He was a piece of shit who said exactly what Alex said he said.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he also wouldn't be the best judge of the best player.
If someone is too good, he might not want to be on the courtroom.
jordan holmes
He would try and kill them.
He would try and murder them, specifically.
dan friesen
He wants good players who are complementary to his singular goodness.
unidentified
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
So I think he would actually be a very bad person to take staffing advice from.
jordan holmes
Yeah, having watched The Last Dance and also having watched Jordan's career as a general manager and owner, he's the worst person to choose players.
dan friesen
Yeah, so both of these examples are bad.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How did Dale Earnhardt...
You know what?
Never mind.
alex jones
You listen to Michael Jordan.
I mean, it's the Michael Jordans.
It's the Dale Earnhardts.
It's the Tom Brady's.
jordan holmes
Another notorious piece of shit.
alex jones
Exactly what was going to happen.
And I feel like I am in the twilight zone here.
Because I can read these damn studies all day.
I read them for three hours this morning.
And I started crying.
I'm not going to lie.
It wasn't a crying of, like, sad.
It was a crying because I want to start killing people!
And I'm not going to do it.
I'm not going to hurt anybody.
But I'm saying they are attacking us.
dan friesen
That doesn't...
I'm not confident.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, we already know you want to kill people.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I read these studies and I have tears of murder.
jordan holmes
You know, maybe the thing that is, his metaphor might actually be very good in the opposite direction that he's thinking about.
Because all three of these people that he has referenced are people who are incredible.
We're incredible at what they do.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
At the thing that they are good at, they are better than anyone else ever has.
But if you ask them to do something outside of that, you are asking the wrong person, no matter what you are doing.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
So if you are asking a doctor, say, who has been maybe the best there has ever been at committing fraud, you should talk to them about fraud.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, and a lot of Alex's guests are like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Singular.
And that's kind of why when some of them go away, there's a real hole in the show.
Like, Steve Pichanik should be around more.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because he is the Michael Jordan of crazy big brags.
Absolutely.
Larry Nichols being dead is kind of unfortunate because of the hole that's left there.
He was the Michael Jordan of Clinton conspiracies.
jordan holmes
He really was.
He just had him.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, you know, you lose those people and it's tough to staff.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And according to Leo Zagami, he's also the Michael Jordan of basketball.
dan friesen
He's the Michael Jordan of Illuminati insidering.
unidentified
It's...
dan friesen
Yeah, it just doesn't quite...
jordan holmes
I won a six championships!
dan friesen
It doesn't fit when you try and slot these other people in who are just disappointing weirdos.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
dan friesen
They're not even Detlef Schrempf.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Sixth man.
jordan holmes
Hey, they wish they could be Tony Kukoc.
dan friesen
Right.
Detlef Schrempf, I know, wasn't on the Bulls.
unidentified
No, he wasn't.
dan friesen
He was the sixth man of the year repeatedly.
jordan holmes
He was.
Tony Kukoc was the sixth man of the year.
dan friesen
Was he?
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
I didn't know that.
I thought he was a starter.
jordan holmes
He was a starter for a while.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Good stuff.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
You want to talk about Vlade Divac?
jordan holmes
Another bad administrator.
Great basketball player.
Then he became a general manager.
unidentified
Is that right?
jordan holmes
You shouldn't ask people who aren't good at what they're asking.
Their job is basketball, not knowing basketball.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Ugh.
Terrible.
dan friesen
So, look.
Here's the deal.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
The Cyber Symposium.
jordan holmes
How did it go?
dan friesen
It's going well.
Well, look.
It's not going well.
Let me translate.
jordan holmes
Living in the future, I do remember that 9-0 Supreme Court decision did not come, unfortunately.
dan friesen
Let me translate Alex's position on this.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
This is a huge embarrassment, but Mike Lindell still has some money left, so it's going well, and I admire him.
He's in the arena.
jordan holmes
Sure.
He's still fighting.
Good for him.
dan friesen
This next clip.
Oh, just, it's so gratifying to me.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You'll see why.
jordan holmes
Okay, sell me on it.
alex jones
The media's attacking the cyber symposium, calling it a failure.
I think it's a really big success.
In courage, in honor, in will, in truth.
I watched a lot of it.
And they're bringing out real algorithms, real proof, showing real cases of fraud.
But I warned Lindell privately and publicly.
I said...
This China packet capture you got is a classic setup, and it's run by an individual that even set up the Pentagon.
And I said, you really ought to move away from that.
And Lindell said, no, you'll see the proof.
And I said, okay, all right, I'll see the proof.
And so that's now overshadowing that it was just random code and wasn't even real code.
And then suddenly the guy that gave him in has had a stroke and can't talk to Lindell.
dan friesen
Alex is trying to throw Dennis Montgomery under the bus, but refuses to say his name because he's been a source for so many things on InfoWars in the past.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
dan friesen
I warned Mike Lindell not to listen to Dennis Montgomery's information like I have so many times in the past.
I created an entire months-long cycle out of the fictional idea that Trump was being spied on based on Dennis Montgomery information.
And I can't really throw that out, so I can't use his name, make it too obvious that I believed all that bullshit.
But look, I tried to warn Lindell.
alex jones
He's a good guy.
dan friesen
He's a good guy.
Things going well.
jordan holmes
This is...
Dennis Montgomery is the Nigerian email scammer in Alex's story.
He's like, hey, I told people, you know, and some people, it happened to him twice!
It happened to him twice!
They told him not to go see Dennis Montgomery, and again he goes!
God damn it!
dan friesen
Some people named me listen to Lunchtimes.
Yeah.
Yeah, so that's cool.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
That's really gratifying for me.
unidentified
Like...
dan friesen
Even Alex has got to cut Montgomery loose now.
jordan holmes
Mike Lindell.
You know, this has been a success in a lot of ways.
It's been an success in all the other ways other than the ones by which we would measure success.
Sure.
It's a participation trophy is what Alex would like to give.
dan friesen
Yeah.
For honor.
jordan holmes
For honor.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's Miss Congeniality.
dan friesen
So Alex gets to talking about the old vaccines, of course.
And he's now learned the name of the first man who got the Pfizer shot.
unidentified
Gotcha.
alex jones
I remember the first man, a relative of William Shakespeare.
I guess if I was related to William Shakespeare, I'd give myself the first name William.
My mom's told me we have another son.
She wants to be named William.
It's a great name.
But there's William Shakespeare, related to William Shakespeare.
First man to take it, he died really quick after.
Bye-bye, William.
Thanks for being a trooper.
He wanted to help everybody.
dan friesen
If this dude is a descendant of William Shakespeare, it's got to be a really bizarre, distant relative.
It's the kind of relation that would be meaningless.
William Shakespeare had three children.
Only one of them retained the surname Shakespeare, and that was his son Hamnet.
Hamnet had no children because he died at age 11. Shakespeare's two daughters both married and took on their husband's surnames.
His daughter Judith married Thomas Quinney, and they had three children, all of whom died before having kids of their own and all before the age of 21. Hmm.
Elizabeth had no children and is widely known as William Shakespeare's final descendant.
Hmm.
Yeah.
It very regularly involves him just making stuff up as he's cold reading articles.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Also, if he'd read any of the articles about this guy, Alex would know that he very strongly preferred being called Bill, most likely because of the discomfort of being named William Shakespeare.
jordan holmes
Ah, as somebody with the last name Holmes, nobody has ever called me Sherlock, so I don't understand that at all.
Yeah.
dan friesen
In Chicago.
jordan holmes
You know, it's rare to be called H.H. Holmes.
It really is.
Most people don't like to reference famous serial killers when talking about it.
dan friesen
What about James Holmes?
Wasn't he the Aurora shooter?
jordan holmes
I think he was, yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Real bummer.
dan friesen
So the world government exists, and it's going to take over, but there's one Achilles heel for it.
And I think Alex means white people, but he doesn't want to say that.
alex jones
All right, the whole world government rollout forced inoculation program has a little bit of an Achilles heel.
And that is, in Western Europe, in the UK, in Australia, in New Zealand, in the United States, in Canada, we supposedly have elections because we're a republic, other areas are, quote, democracies, and we're able to put our representatives in and have self-rule.
And that's why what Mike Lindell has been doing is so great.
dan friesen
Sure.
So this is an interesting list of countries that Alex is saying are the Achilles heel of the globalists because they're republics.
jordan holmes
It does seem like a very...
There's something that ties them together, I feel like.
dan friesen
Let's leave the United States aside for a second and just check on the rest of the countries.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Let's go.
dan friesen
So we got the UK first.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This is a bit of a misstep right out of the gate since the UK is considered a constitutional monarchy.
Though it's generally considered a formality today, technically, in order for any bill to become an act of parliament, it's required to get royal assent.
Which is the monarch's approval.
jordan holmes
And literally, stories have come out recently of the monarchs themselves changing legislation using their influence.
dan friesen
This, actually, like the royal assent not being granted to a bill, hasn't happened since the 1700s.
And if it did today, it would almost certainly prompt a crisis.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But in terms of the law and how the government is organized in the UK, the monarch has the power to override everything that any elected body does.
The UK is not a republic by any stretch of the word.
jordan holmes
How funny would it be if the Queen just finally did that one time?
dan friesen
If she flipped her dictator button?
jordan holmes
Everybody's like, I guess we have to kill her now.
That was a strange way for that rule to end.
dan friesen
Hey, and guess what, Jordan?
Elizabeth is the Queen of Australia, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's that.
dan friesen
Their laws are enacted with royal assent as well, although it's done by the Australian Governor General.
The Governor General is not an elected position.
It's appointed by the monarch.
This is one of the heads of state, and they serve at the pleasure of the British crown.
The same is true in New Zealand and Canada.
jordan holmes
What stupid world do we live in?
What stupid bullshit is this?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So fucking stupid.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's kind of bizarre.
And I think that there's still effective governance that's able to exist in these constitutional monarchies.
But it seems like something we should just do away with.
jordan holmes
Yeah, just no more.
Why?
dan friesen
Why?
The ceremonial heads of state who are kings and queens who...
Technically, on paper, control everything if they want to, but they're polite, so they don't do it.
jordan holmes
We don't do it.
We're here to make appearances, live extremely lavish lifestyles at the expense of all the poor people around us.
dan friesen
As we learned from Trump, norms are not set in stone.
And if there is a norm that the monarch does give royal assent to everything...
That's not set in stone.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
That is only as good as the monarch.
jordan holmes
Hey, well, not just that, but we're seeing a resurgence of a lot of far-right monarchists at the moment, so if there is a monarch who decides to, say, remove that ascent and has already put together a large group of supporters, many of whom are very violent these days, hell!
dan friesen
So the countries that Alex is listing aren't republics.
Interestingly, though, that list that he gave is really similar to the countries that Kirk Lyons, noted neo-Nazi lawyer, listed as the ones where the white majority was under attack.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
He used the acronym CAUSE, which he used as the new name for his organization, which was formerly known as the Patriots Defense Foundation.
jordan holmes
Ah, it's better than white people only!
We love white people, white people, white people!
dan friesen
I mean, it was a subtext.
jordan holmes
It was a long one.
dan friesen
Alex doesn't care about these countries because they're republics.
He cares because he believes that they're the places where white people are in danger because his intellectual roots are in extreme right-wing racism.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yep.
So, the thing that I love about this episode in particular is that Alex has to rationalize that the Cyber Symposium is not going well.
jordan holmes
It's not going well.
dan friesen
But it is going well.
unidentified
It's going great.
dan friesen
And you should applaud Mike Lindell because he pays.
jordan holmes
He's a hero.
dan friesen
He has money and I have a promo code.
jordan holmes
Everything he's ever done is great.
dan friesen
But at the same time, it looks pretty bad.
jordan holmes
This is not going well.
dan friesen
And it's only because Dennis Montgomery set him up.
Dennis Montgomery is a globalist.
But Alex refuses to say his name.
alex jones
We knew how they did it.
They sent out all the ballots.
They sent out tens of millions of them.
jordan holmes
From North Korea.
alex jones
Democrats put the names of dead people and folks that moved out of state.
jordan holmes
Again, from North Korea.
dan friesen
On a boat.
alex jones
But Mike Lindell got targeted, and I'm not going to even go through a bunch of names, because these people sue you if you even mention them.
And I'm not scared of being sued, but their names don't matter.
You can read all the articles for yourself.
But just like I told you, Q was controlled.
A lot of real stuff was said, a lot of disinfo was said.
How do you discredit somebody that's actually out there trying to expose real stuff?
Well, you tell them, we've got all the files of all the election captured from China, and it's going to prove that it's a fraud.
dan friesen
So now, Dennis Montgomery giving this information to Mike Lindell is a plot by the globalists in order to discredit Mike Lindell and the push to overturn the election.
Amazing.
jordan holmes
Does he not realize what he just said?
dan friesen
Probably not.
He rarely does.
jordan holmes
Because what he just said was that you can give Mike Lindell...
Fake information.
And he will put it out because he does not have the ability to tell the difference between fake information or real information.
dan friesen
Yeah, that is definitely a piece of this that is going unexamined.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Mike Lindell will make multiple documentaries about this, risk a $1.6 billion lawsuit.
jordan holmes
I mean, he really doesn't get that what he just said is that we don't know how to tell the difference between real information and fake information.
We have no way of verifying whether or not the shit people give us is true.
dan friesen
Yeah, and the fact that this information is coming from someone who is a career scam artist, that doesn't give them pause.
They're like, hey, maybe he's right this time.
jordan holmes
Look, past behavior is not a predictor of future events, okay?
dan friesen
Also, I love the...
Premise that Alex is like, I'm not going to say his name because I don't want to get sued.
jordan holmes
I don't want to get sued.
unidentified
Oh my God.
dan friesen
What an asshole.
Anyway, he goes on to shit on Montgomery some more.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
All that file he said he had and the individual that gave it to him that said that proof China had all the files and did it.
Well, obviously you can't have all the files at once.
And I warned Lindell.
I said, listen, you've got all this real stuff.
This is you being set up.
unidentified
Does he?
alex jones
Well, it turns out the individual involved.
He's married to an individual that, of course, works for the Democratic Party and the biggest Democratic Party law firm, and a law firm that has quarterbacked operations against me.
So when I saw these names and stuff months ago, I was like, oh my God, but Lindell wouldn't listen to me.
And that's okay.
He's a good guy.
He just got in the arena at this level.
He'll remember what I told him now.
So, exclusive, cyber expert says his team can't prove Mike Lindell's claims that China hacked the election.
And who gave Mike Lindell all this information?
Here's NPR headline.
The man who conned the Pentagon.
That wasn't even about politics then.
But the guy that got the Pentagon to pay him a bunch of money to supposedly find secret Al-Qaeda messages on broadcast TV and stuff.
Report.
Programmer conned CIA Pentagon into buying bogus anti-terror code.
That's Wired Magazine.
This is the same guy.
Infamous hoax artist behind Trump World's new voter fraud claim.
Arizona Sheriff spent $120,000 on probing involving Judge.
unidentified
Have you ever talked about Dennis Montgomery before?
alex jones
We have all of this information.
dan friesen
Yeah, that seems really absent from his analysis of this, is the conversation of all of the...
Fraudulent stuff he's put out based on this guy who's an obvious scam artist.
jordan holmes
You know, it's fun how many times people are like, oh, see, Alex was right.
But we don't have that, like, you know, when a cop gets caught planning drugs, you know, and then they have to go back and revisit all those old convictions and toss them out because the cop is clearly a fucking cheater, you know?
Like, Alex should have to go back and revisit all those Dennis Montgomery cases and be like, well, this one's from a con artist.
This one's from a con artist.
This one's from a con artist.
dan friesen
Right.
I mean, even the basis of this one Alex was on board with, the hammer and scorecard stuff, he definitely was promoting.
That was straight up Montgomery shit.
jordan holmes
The problem is, it was too big, so people paid attention.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think it was easier for him to just sort of pretend he wasn't aware of how much of a hoax artist Dennis Montgomery was back then.
And, you know, Trump was president.
There was a good chance that you could get Joe Arpaio a pardon.
Right.
You know.
And the tides have changed.
And now Montgomery is a shithead and everybody knows it.
And I won't say his name because I don't want to get sued.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Or I don't want to trigger something in people's memories.
They're like, wait, I remember you talking about this guy as if he was the Super Snowden.
jordan holmes
Did seem to recall somebody saying Super Snowden.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
About someone.
dan friesen
Yeah, a bunch of times.
So Alex interviews this talk show host named Kate Daly.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fine.
dan friesen
I got nothing.
Good for her.
I would say that she's somebody who talks in Infowars content with a Fox News delivery.
jordan holmes
Ah, I gotcha.
dan friesen
And is junior varsity.
She is not the Michael Jordan of this.
She is the Bill Winnington.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's not great.
dan friesen
Luke Longley.
jordan holmes
Luke Longley was great.
dan friesen
Yeah, he was pretty good.
That's a bad example.
jordan holmes
Come on now.
Why are you shitting all over my bulls now?
dan friesen
I can't think of any other people who were on the bulls at that point.
Except for like B.J. Armstrong, but he was good.
jordan holmes
B.J. Armstrong was great.
dan friesen
Scottie Pippen was good.
jordan holmes
Horace Grant got his ass kicked by Michael Jordan, which proves our earlier theory.
If you get punched in the face by Michael Jordan, you're probably pretty good.
dan friesen
Give me some other players from that bench.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Give you some other players from the bench?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, that's not going to go well.
dan friesen
No?
jordan holmes
It's been a while.
It's been too long.
Stacey.
dan friesen
Stacey Augman?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
unidentified
Stacey...
dan friesen
Stacey Augman was on the Hawks.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah, yeah.
No, I know.
Never mind.
I can't remember off the top of my head.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Who else we got?
dan friesen
These bulls, you love them.
jordan holmes
It's been 20 years!
dan friesen
All right, fine.
So anyway, their interview is not very interesting.
It's mostly just about, you know, basic misrepresentations about COVID and vaccinations that we've talked about a bunch.
Although we do learn something, and that is that Rob Dew was in the hospital last week.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
dan friesen
He may have got COVID.
jordan holmes
You dumb fucks.
dan friesen
Alex claims he tested negative.
That may be possible, but apparently he got some kind of pneumonia, and then he had to escape the hospital.
Which is fun.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Now, I would probably just ignore this and be like, whatever, I don't give a shit.
But, listen to...
Alex calls Rob Dew a friend, and there's a little bit of a pause that made me very sad.
alex jones
And then my own good, one of my best friends, Rob Dew...
Thought he had COVID, went in, went to the hospital, and they weren't giving him IV.
They weren't giving him vitamin C. They weren't giving him hydroxychloroquine.
I know that's what you talk about.
They gave him nothing.
He said, well, hell, forget this, and went home, and now he's fine.
But they were literally getting ready to intubate him if he hadn't literally escaped the hospital.
dan friesen
They were going to intubate him.
He didn't just escape.
jordan holmes
One of my good friends, Rob Dewhat...
Thought he had COVID!
Thought he had COVID!
One of my best friends, Rob Du...
dan friesen
That's not like a giant pause, but it's meaningful.
It feels pointed.
jordan holmes
One could call it pregnant.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I also love the idea of Rob Du just basically being like, what flew over the cuckoo's nest?
Just getting out.
jordan holmes
I see Rob do his cronk.
Oh, sure.
Yeah, dude, his own theme music as he escapes.
dan friesen
I can see that.
I can see that.
So he interviews this Kate Daly, and I don't care.
Partially that's because we have another guest.
unidentified
Ah.
dan friesen
He's a health ranger.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
He's very dramatic.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And he has a surprise for Alex.
Okay.
mike adams
Also, we've been able to get Dr. Richard Fleming to join us at the bottom of this hour, if that's alright with you.
He's available.
alex jones
Oh, it's this hour!
Good, great, great, wonderful.
mike adams
Yeah, and this is one of the most brilliant people I've ever interviewed.
dan friesen
This is the fraud doctor we talked about earlier.
jordan holmes
This is one of the most brilliant people I have ever interviewed.
dan friesen
Yes, he's great.
So yeah, what ends up happening is that Alex leaves halfway through the third hour.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And lets Mike interview this other doctor.
jordan holmes
That's a great idea.
dan friesen
And then Mike does the fourth hour.
And like, oh my god.
jordan holmes
Just take a break.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Mike, he's one who has ideas.
I like the way I made that sentence.
He is one who has ideas.
jordan holmes
He is one who has ideas.
Yes.
dan friesen
And here's his idea for the day.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The Office of Personnel Management hack that happened.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
China got all of the psychological profiles of all of everybody.
jordan holmes
Everybody.
dan friesen
And now they're using it to kill the military.
jordan holmes
Oh!
dan friesen
Would you believe that?
jordan holmes
No.
mike adams
Remember what was in those files?
They had these psychological profiles of high-level military leaders, including high-level FBI personnel.
In their interviews, when they're being interviewed for top-level clearance and so on, they're asked a lot of psychological questions like, do you have multiple sex partners?
Have you ever been abused?
Things like that.
All of those psych records are now in the hands of the CCP, and I believe that they're using those records to...
Blackmail high-level officials in the FBI and the Pentagon to go along with the People's Liberation Army war against the United States military to then weaken our...
by having our own Pentagon mass murder our troops with spike protein bioweapons in the name of And let's be clear, this is globalism taking over America, we're not supposed to exist, quietly merging with the globalists under China and agreeing to spike our troops, to purge them and poison them as an armistice, as a sign of submission.
dan friesen
These guys love working together.
They're just...
They're good.
They're Jordan and Pippin.
jordan holmes
I said something crazy.
Yeah, no, you're totally right.
And here's something even crazier.
unidentified
Yeah.
I love the way you're nuts.
jordan holmes
It does seem to have a little bit of a chocolate and peanut butter vibe to them, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
And, you know, take the content away from it.
There's something really delightful about that.
It's cute.
jordan holmes
It's just...
But, I mean...
Doesn't this seem too much?
Doesn't this seem too much to turn your anti-vax bullshit from, you know, like, it's reasonable to trick people into thinking that something, some kind of birth defect or something can happen because of vaccine.
You're injecting something in you, you don't know how your body works, and then a kid expels.
dan friesen
And it's pretty easy to present, like...
I have a concern about this.
My concern is legitimate.
There's some science that I feel is unclear or whatever.
It seems like more unshaky ground than this.
jordan holmes
Right, but you're talking about 70% of the population has had at least one shot, right?
So now you're going to take anti-vax bullshit out of the realm of that and turn it into...
All of the people in our military are being murdered by the Chinese army.
dan friesen
Right.
And they used psychological profiles of everybody.
They hacked.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They know how many people are fucking.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And they're able to use that in order to get them to vaccinate the troops so they die.
And here's the point.
Here's the point.
Where does that lead to, Jordan?
jordan holmes
Hey, I have a question.
Here's a quick question.
Quick question.
Quick question.
dan friesen
There's no questions.
jordan holmes
Has anybody in the Chinese military been vaccinated?
And if so, are they being murdered as well?
dan friesen
Not important.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Listen.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Here's the deal.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Where does this lead?
jordan holmes
I suppose with China invading us.
mike adams
In fact, there's even more to this.
A lot of details to share here, but there are people, and I'm not sure about this, but for those who believe that Trump might one day be reinstated by a Supreme Court decision, if that were to happen theoretically, Trump would inherit a weakened military with probably hundreds of thousands of dead and injured troops so that the United States would be more vulnerable on a national security level,
which would mean the U.S. couldn't defend itself against foreign invasion or acts of war that are kinetic in nature.
alex jones
You're totally right.
This is the takeout of the U.S. We come back, you'll have the floor.
dan friesen
Amazing.
You nailed it.
Invasion.
jordan holmes
The United States is the most uninvadaable country in the world.
dan friesen
It would be tough.
jordan holmes
By a huge margin.
Do you know what?
We don't need a military whatsoever.
None.
Because we have so many fucking nukes.
The idea of somebody being like, hey, let's go take Utah is insane beyond reason.
dan friesen
And the idea of a staging ground being possible would be really difficult.
jordan holmes
Where are you going to land?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, if you're a boat.
Maybe in the Northeast, especially if you're coming from North Korea.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're going to fly, you're going to land in Mexico and then travel upwards.
What kind of insane person thinks that America can be invaded?
dan friesen
Yeah, if you believe that that's possible, then you have to believe that either Canada or Mexico would be on board with the invasion.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
Or that it would be somehow possible to do a maritime landing.
jordan holmes
On the United States coastline.
On the United States coastline without us knowing about it.
Under cover of darkness.
dan friesen
Yeah, it seems a little bit far-fetched, but it's possible if...
Troops get vaccinated.
jordan holmes
It's possible.
dan friesen
And then the Supreme Court puts Trump back in.
jordan holmes
I mean, Jesus Christ.
We've already been invaded and it's called the cops.
dan friesen
These people are really fun.
Mike is fun, I guess.
Insane.
In as much as I abhor all of these people's beliefs, at least Mike is trying to walk that line of like, look, I know...
That it would sound really stupid for me to say that I believe that Trump is going to be reinstated by the Supreme Court at some point.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But the Chinese military stole all these files in order to trick the brass into injecting the troops with vaccines in order to weaken them so when Trump is reinstated by the Supreme Court, he won't have the military that he needs in order to repel a Chinese land invasion.
jordan holmes
That makes perfect sense.
That makes perfect sense.
Every part of that makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
What a fucking dick.
jordan holmes
Unreal.
People are still actually worried about the country being invaded.
That's a real thing that people are worried about, is troops on American soil.
dan friesen
Well, there's other things to worry about, too, like societal collapse.
jordan holmes
Well, that seems far more likely.
dan friesen
Well, not this version of it.
mike adams
And there is a critical tipping point beyond which, if you have a certain percentage of casualties, then society, the complex society that we now live in, ceases to function because you've lost the redundancy and the know-how of the people who can run the power grid or who can run the telecom infrastructure or who can run the manufacturing machines or the transportation systems.
There is a critical point, and I don't know exactly where that is, but if we start to lose 25-30% of those who are vaccinated, There may be a tipping point beyond which this entire system suffers a cascading systemic collapse from which we are not able to recover.
We're going to go back in that scenario to 18th century technology.
alex jones
Which, by the way, that's the treaty of 1992, Agenda 21. Ooh.
dan friesen
Yeah, I would say if one in four people in the country dies, we're in trouble.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There will be a massive reorganization that will be required if 25% of the population of this country dies.
jordan holmes
It's always fascinating to me.
dan friesen
Good point.
jordan holmes
It's always fascinating to me how these guys are, how capitalists are always like, oh, if 25% of the people with know-how, the engineers who know how to run the power grid, if those people are taken away, it's never like, if 25% of the owners of these businesses die, it'll all fall apart.
dan friesen
Well, here's another thing, too.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Mike is talking about how society is going to collapse entirely, and we'll be back to the 1800s in terms of technology if 25% of the population dies off, right?
jordan holmes
No, we have YouTube tutorials.
dan friesen
Meanwhile, an essential piece of his and Alex's conspiracy is that the globalists are trying to kill off 80% of the population.
90% of the population!
So I guess the globalists want to live in a world with 1800s technology or something.
unidentified
I guess.
dan friesen
They love horses and buggies.
jordan holmes
None of this makes any fucking sense.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You people are nuts.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Mike interviews this Dr. Fleming guy.
And like I said, I don't...
I don't care what he says.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I don't give a shit.
jordan holmes
If you've had your license revoked for even...
unidentified
Not license.
dan friesen
He was disbarred from being involved in studies.
jordan holmes
If you were disbarred from anything for even, like, six months.
Ten years.
I would be like, no, no, no, good.
And this was ten years?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Because he committed multiple fraud-related felonies.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I don't really care.
He's just saying the same kind of standard Infowars COVID conspiracies.
It's just like, oh.
jordan holmes
We've got a new face to repeat after us.
dan friesen
We have a doctor who's saying it.
Prestigious doctor.
Don't look into him.
Don't worry about his resume.
jordan holmes
The prestige is actually how prestigious he is.
dan friesen
So Alex, like I said, he leaves halfway through the third hour and then Mike is hosting and I listen to the rest of the third hour and I'm not listening to another hour of Mike Adams.
So I turned it off.
The only thing that even came close to being interesting was this of Fleming here.
unidentified
There's very clear evidence that SARS-CoV-1 from 2002 was actually their first bioweapon, and this is an updated version.
A bioweapon isn't something that you want to kill people.
A good weapon doesn't kill the enemy.
It slowly but surely demoralizes them and harms them.
In this case, damages their society and their economy and causes slow, malicious diseases.
dan friesen
That doesn't make any sense.
jordan holmes
I mean, I guess the best weapon in the world, then, was George W. Bush.
Because he destroyed societies and caused all kinds of massive diseases.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, you know, I think if you look at particularly prominent biological agents, you're looking at things like anthrax.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Doesn't kill anybody.
dan friesen
Hold on.
jordan holmes
No, doesn't kill.
It demoralizes.
Don't you remember the biggest threat from anthrax was how demoralized we'd all be?
dan friesen
It bummed you out.
jordan holmes
I'd be like, oh, I don't even want to fight anymore.
dan friesen
And you know, a lot of biological weapons are actually targeted at crops.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
A lot of them are things that are like funguses that end up killing crops.
Yeah.
They don't demoralize crops.
jordan holmes
Well, starving to death will demoralize you.
dan friesen
Well, that's true.
But they aren't aimed at killing people.
They're aimed at...
Killing plants.
They're still aimed at killing things.
I don't know.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That sounds more like a propaganda strategy.
dan friesen
Also, I would like this guy to explain, which he doesn't, how it's clear based on the evidence that SARS was their first attempt at a biological weapon.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, it's clear.
Based on the evidence.
Remember?
The evidence?
We got it from Dennis Montgomery.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
jordan holmes
You know it's good.
dan friesen
That guy.
Love him, but also, ooh!
Pretend I never listened to him.
jordan holmes
Never heard of him.
dan friesen
So, we come to the end of this, and I, you know, there's some enjoyable stuff here.
Alex trying to dance around the fact that this symposium sucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is fun.
dan friesen
That is fun.
His utterly embarrassing blow-up with the emergency alert.
Just what a shithead.
jordan holmes
Just beautiful.
Just the tip of the spear.
dan friesen
We'll be back on the next episode, and we'll finish up with the Cyber Symposium disappointment.
Maybe I'll come up with a pun after all.
jordan holmes
I think so.
unidentified
No.
No.
dan friesen
No workshopping.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We'll come up with something.
jordan holmes
All righty.
dan friesen
Don't give it away for free.
All right.
But yeah, we'll be back.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight and I go to Ben Jordan.
dan friesen
What was on Facebook?
jordan holmes
We are...
And if you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
I am the Ronnie Cycli of doctors.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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