Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes critique Nick Fuentes’ racist video on Alex Jones’ platform, where he argues preserving America’s majority-white demographics is necessary due to cultural incompatibility among immigrants. Using Chicago’s segregated neighborhoods as evidence, Fuentes claims demographic shifts will destabilize the U.S., despite admitting they’re "virtually unstoppable." The hosts expose his determinism and contradictions with Infowars’ anti-globalist rhetoric, questioning Jones’ alignment with extremist figures like Fuentes while noting audience unease—some dismiss it as government manipulation, others defend it outright. [Automatically generated summary]
This is going to be an episode that is about a video that Nick Fuentes posted on Alex's website, band.video.
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I totally understand that there are some people who hate the sound of his voice and can't handle it, and I fully respect that if you are that sort of person...
So, Jordan, today, this episode, I was a little bit uninspired by some of the stuff that was going on on Alex's world, and so I was poking around the website, and on Nick Fuentes' page, he had posted a new video.
And the title of this video is Nick Fuentes on Why We Must Preserve America's Majority White Demographics.
I think that one of the things that I find the most interesting when I look at Infowars stuff, and one of the things that keeps me a little bit engaged, is when things change.
I've always been kind of interested in how things can change, because on some level, they shouldn't.
So when we jump from Trump is a con man who's mobbed up and all this to he's the greatest person in the world that's going to save the country, that's interesting to me.
That sort of shift always is something that sticks out.
And I kind of feel like we might be kind of in the middle of a change that's happening.
Well, they say it's somebody that believes in a white ethnic state.
That it's all white people in America, and no non-white people.
Which is nothing that I have ever supported.
I've never said anything like that.
You know, actually just because that's not really how the world works.
You know, we have a largely multiracial country.
These trends are virtually unstoppable.
And so, as a practical matter, we as a nation are going to have to figure out how to navigate the turbulent waters ahead, living in a very big and diverse empire.
I wish it wasn't that way, but that's the way that it is.
So the first important point I want to note here is that Nick is very clearly saying that he wishes the United States wasn't a diverse country, but he doesn't advocate for a whites-only country because it's an impractical goal.
If it weren't an impractical thing to pursue, it stands to reason that based on his preferences, Nick would want to eliminate that diversity that he doesn't seem to enjoy in our society.
The other important thing to note here is that Nick is creating a false definition of white nationalism in order to pretend that the label doesn't fit him.
One doesn't need to advocate for a country with no non-white people in it to advocate for white nationalism.
There are some among Nick's crowd who probably do wish to see a whites only country, but the definition of white nationalism is a bit broader than that.
One of the trademark beliefs that defines a person's belief as being white nationalist is the belief that white people need to retain an absolute grip on power in this country, particularly by retaining a firm majority in terms of population.
Nick's created a false version of the definition in order to avoid the baggage that's associated with it and pretend that everyone's calling him names that don't apply.
But this is really just an elementary rhetorical trick.
Well, I mean, the thing that is undercutting everything he's saying is the idea that we need to stop these trends and then saying they're virtually unstoppable, which...
Okay, so if the birth rate and such are virtually unstoppable, how do you expect to change the trends?
And it would obviously be getting rid of people by deportation or whatever.
You know, obviously violence for them is on the table, but you know.
Also, you know, based on U.S. census data, Nick feels like he's exaggerating a little bit.
If you go back to 1970, the census shows that the country was 87.5% white.
Compared to in 2010, that census, 72.4% white.
Additionally...
I don't think it's super helpful to go back to some of that, like, old census data from, like, let's say, I don't know, prior to 1900.
If you're saying it goes back to the colony days, you know, the terminology and classification that was used to describe race is very different back then than it is today.
Like, for instance, if you go back through it, some of the ways people are cataloged are slurs.
And that is a big part of the country's history and the contributions that have been made by people who have roots in other parts of the world have made America what it is.
There's so much of the fabric of what we consider important and Culturally relevant that is not from...
I don't know even what...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I just, I don't, I don't like this because, you know, he's saying that people aren't interchangeable because based on your roots, where you come from, you act different.
Subtle but significant differences between the groups.
You might think that somebody can come to this country and because they listen to Kanye West and they watch Netflix and they buy Nike shoes that they're assimilated.
But we see that that's really not the case.
Because what do we find?
We find that massive amounts of people come over here and do they create the same conditions in America that the Europeans created before them?
But, yeah, I don't understand how this affects his life in any meaningful way other than he gets mad seeing people of other backgrounds, other communities living freely.
That takes me back to that joke that he said in the last clip or two clips ago or whatever, where he's like, I like them as long as they're over there.
And everybody laughs and he's like, just joking and just joking.
And then he literally says, you know, the same thing, but deadly serious.
So, one of the things I think is important about that clip, beyond just the overt bigotry that runs throughout everything, is that this is counter to the Infowars narrative.
This is counter to the larger conspiracy that Alex sells because...
He's saying, what is it in these countries?
Where are the Democrats in those countries?
Where are the socialist policies in these countries?
And that seems to me to be enough of a reason not to have him on your website.
I mean, if you're fine with the other stuff that comes along with it, I would think it's probably bad for business for you to be yelling about how it's the globalists and the left and China and all this, and then have Nick Fuentes be like, no, it's not.
Now, this becomes a problem because America is not just a place where we like to go to work and where we like to go to bars and drink on the weekends and things like that.
America is supposed to be a nation which is constituted of regions, states, communities, and fundamentally of neighborhoods.
How are you supposed to have a real community in a real neighborhood if people don't even speak the same language on your block?
How are you supposed to have a real community if people don't believe the same religion?
And I hate to say this, but this is a fact of our nature.
Can you have a community if people don't look like each other?
What you're really seeing is that there's something going on with Nick where he doesn't feel like he is capable or able or anyone is capable of having community with people who speak different languages, who have a different religious belief, or who have different looks.
Great.
He thinks that about himself, and he has universalized it to everybody else, which is stupid.
But he's saying that in terms of his own ability to make a community.
It shouldn't matter in other places where he is not.
But what's fascinating about this is he's trying to make both arguments that not only does he not want to live or he's unable to live in a diverse community, but that all communities...
Are equally unable to exist.
And so those shouldn't exist.
The ones that he never goes to.
Like the South Side.
And that's really fucked up.
And the fact that it really comes down to him being so overt.
How can you have a community with people who look different than you?
I cannot believe that Alex would be fine with this.
And if we want to preserve our communities, if we want to preserve the social fabric that binds the country together, if we want cohesion in our country, it's not conducive to any of that.
To bring over millions of people from foreign countries that are totally different.
They come here with different ideas, different values, different ways of life, and differences that are so subtle they're imperceptible.
So they call me a white nationalist because I say if the country is no longer white, it's going to be a different country.
And tell me that's not true.
The math speaks for itself.
America won't be a white country in the future, and America will be different when it's not a white country.
These are two facts.
These are two unignorable, unambiguous...
These are insurmountable facts.
And then when you begin to think about the question, if the country is no longer white and if we get a different country, will that country be better, the same, or will it be a lot worse?
And I hear my parents tell me stories about they used to go to the corner store and buy their grandpa's cigarette and they used to ride the subway at night or ride the bus or something like that.
And it's a pretty clear articulation of white nationalist beliefs, which are being presented with a nice preemptive explanation that these are not, in fact, white nationalist beliefs.
This in and of itself isn't really that groundbreaking.
This is the kind of content you can expect from someone like Nick, but now it's being posted and hosted on Alex's own website, which is kind of amazing in a way.
This represents a looming problem for Alex that I don't think that he's going to be able to navigate very well.
And that problem may be coming to a head much quicker than he expects, at least if a scan of the comments on this video are any indication.
wise mostly because a lot of it is incoherent anger slurs and yeah anyone can post whatever they want anonymously so it never really feels productive to assume that individual comments mean anything sure however the comments on this video are fascinating and that they seem to break down into two camps The first group is people who seem to agree with Nick.
They seem pretty mad and pretty comfortable with just wearing their white nationalism on their sleeve, like this one.
Quote, The differences between races isn't just skin color.
So some of these people on Nick's side, let's say, are a little more blunt.
But what I find far more interesting are the people in the second camp, which is the camp that recognizes that this kind of content represents a bit of a departure from what InfoWars is supposed to be about.
Quote, if I sent a family member a link to band.video hoping for them to educate themselves about COVID, the vaccine, election fraud, or the cabal NWO agenda, and the first thing they see featured up top of the page is a headline like, why we must preserve America's white majority, just doesn't look good.
Even if you're in the Infowars world, you believe the narratives and everything, you can recognize that this is something you do not want to be associated with, because it's on its face a little bit fucked up.
There's a number of people in the comments section who bring up things like, you know, wait until the media picks this up.
You know, making it clear that they know that this is going to be something very attackable, which Alex has chosen to associate with, and now the audience of the show is going to be associated with it, too, unless they clearly reject it.
That's a tough position to be in, and you can see a lot of people decide that they're just going to retreat into a comfortable assumption that Nick is actually a fed plant.
Trying to make Ethan Fours look bad by making videos that are transparently racist, so Alex will look racist by extension.
There's a deep division in this comment section, and it feels like this could be heading in one of two directions, and neither, I think, look good for Alex.
One possibility is that Alex keeps Nick around and lets him have his channel on the website.
Nick's clearly already testing the waters to see what he can get away with, and if this video is any indication, then he should probably feel no trepidation about pushing even further.
If things go this way, it seems like there's a contingent of listeners who won't support that, and it could lead to them questioning why Alex would distribute this kind of content, particularly given how Nick and Alex disagree on the very basis of the conspiracy they're fighting, with Nick rejecting the China Democrat Socialism big boogeyman that Alex uses to scare the audience.
Down the other road, you have the option of Alex kicking Nick off the channel, which will only serve to alienate the more extreme elements of Alex's audience.
This is a dangerous game that you get into when you make so much of your political identity about how your viewpoints are secretly presented.
correct and everyone's censoring you because of it.
If you ever need to censor someone, you really put yourself in a difficult position because whatever arguments and attacks you've used against the people censoring you can now be used against you.
And make no mistake, that's precisely what would happen if Alex kicked Nick off the platform.
He's in a no-win situation because he let Nick get involved.
And he kind of has to deal with the association or go against his band.video principle.
And I think either way, you're going to have a certain amount of the audience be like, why are you doing this?
It was actually kind of heartening to look in the comments section and see people be like, what the fuck?
They're like, I believe this Federal Reserve conspiracy.