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June 14, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
01:29:22
#565: June 10, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan check in and see how Alex Jones was doing at the end of last week. In this installment, Alex implores his audience to prepare for their impending deaths, acts like a total baby, and has a landmark first interview with Pillow Man Mike Lindell.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
15:48
d
dan friesen
37:07
j
jordan holmes
24:56
m
mike lindell
05:46
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roger stone
01:47
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
Why don't you go first?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, obviously, there's only one bright spot for me, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think I actually know what this is going to be.
jordan holmes
There's only one possible bright spot for me.
dan friesen
Is it a really long bright spot?
jordan holmes
No, it will be fairly short.
dan friesen
No, no, I mean the experience of watching it.
jordan holmes
It was a...
It was fairly long.
unidentified
Yeah, that's what I thought.
jordan holmes
There have been longer.
There have been significantly longer.
Several hours, perhaps.
There were matches that have gone over two days before.
dan friesen
Yeesh.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but...
No, Rafa and Djokovic played the...
dan friesen
You almost said Federer.
jordan holmes
I did almost say it.
I was thinking about him because I was going in my mind through the greatest matches in all of tennis history.
And Djokovic and Rafa played...
The greatest clay court match in the history of tennis.
Without question.
The third set lasted an hour and 40 minutes.
That is the length of most Rafa on clay matches.
And that was just the third set.
And it was just spectacular shot making.
dan friesen
Back and forth.
jordan holmes
No, no.
I mean, it wasn't even that.
It was impossible shots left and right.
It was truly incredible.
And Djokovic won, unfortunately.
But, I mean, there's no shame there.
Three points go a different way, and Rafa wins 6-3, 6-3, 6-3.
dan friesen
Yeah, and even if you end up losing a match like that, you're still a participant in it.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And there's something to be said for, like, you were able to go that far.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
You were able to go that hard.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
And it's not like Rafa hasn't won enough French Opens for people to think he's pretty good on clay.
He's won a few.
dan friesen
That's what I've heard.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right on, Clay, for so long.
But no, it was just incredible to watch.
dan friesen
Oh, I'm happy for you that you got to watch that.
jordan holmes
If you were a tennis fan, it was a borderline religious experience.
I'm not joking with you.
dan friesen
I got that from your text.
jordan holmes
It was intense.
It was intense.
It was an intense emotional experience.
dan friesen
Well, my bright spot is actually kind of an athletic thing as well.
Okay.
Recently, the Switch, the Nintendo Switch, has updated the game, so you can now play Mario Parties with people in other places.
jordan holmes
That's awesome!
dan friesen
Yeah, and so I've started playing some Mario Parties with folks who live in other states.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Some friends of mine, and I am essentially undefeated.
I should grant that I accept and I understand fully that the game is mostly random.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
And it's for children.
Well.
dan friesen
I understand all these things.
But, yeah, I've been killing it in the Mario Party game.
jordan holmes
I don't think there's anything wrong with getting confirmation as an adult that you could defeat children at something.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Feels good.
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
It's nice!
Sometimes you see kids do stuff and you're like, there's no chance I have at competing with that.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
And that makes you feel bad because you're an adult.
But really beating the shit out of kids can sometimes be, well, maybe that's too far, but really beating them can feel good.
dan friesen
One of the fun things, too, about this Mario Party, this iteration of the game, is that they have these spaces where you can get a friend, you can get an ally, I always play as Waluigi.
jordan holmes
Of course you do.
dan friesen
I want to get Donkey Kong or Diddy Kong to be my friend and follow me around the board.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
It's so fun.
Anyway, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
We're going to be back into the present today.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a bad place to be.
unidentified
It is.
dan friesen
We're going to be talking about June 10th, 2021.
unidentified
Ah!
jordan holmes
Again, that's my new response.
roger stone
Bummer!
jordan holmes
Missed!
Missed again!
dan friesen
Maybe that's the new bit.
unidentified
So, it's a day.
dan friesen
It's a day.
It's a monumental day in a lot of ways.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It is also a day of walking through knee-deep mud for Alex's content.
jordan holmes
I imagine it's a day of avoiding topics.
dan friesen
Yeah, not a lot of topics come up.
Some very important things, like whether or not we're all gonna die, that is dealt with quite at length.
jordan holmes
I mean, that seems pretty important.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Unless the answer's no, in which case it's not very important at all, is it?
dan friesen
You can put that on the back burner, probably.
Okay, that's fair.
So, today, we're gonna get down to business on this, but before we do, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Dr. David Strangehate, or how I signed up for the Patreon to get all of the podcast extras in the exclusive audio feed, but I only got two because everything is uploaded as a video.
Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you so much.
dan friesen
To be clear to Dr. Strangehate, David Strangehate, and everybody else, there's nothing that is behind a paywall.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we try very hard to keep things as far away from a paywall as possible.
dan friesen
And maybe we could do a better job of putting some of those videos as audio, but...
Next, from Brother Ben, Matt W., thank you so much.
You're a now policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you very much, Matt W. That was from his brother, Ben.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
From brother Ben.
dan friesen
I phrased that poorly.
unidentified
Gotcha.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Next, Emily Finch.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Emily!
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
And Blandy and Candy.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Oh, thank you very much, Blandy and Candy.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And a couple of technocrats out there would like to give a little wave to.
First, Stevie P's Most Dirty Dossier.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
And Brew Ha Ha, Chicago's Drinking Pod.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you all so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
Not to correct you, but to clarify, I believe Stevie P's dirty dossier is also a technocrat.
Correct?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
You accidentally said policy won.
dan friesen
Oh, I'm sorry.
jordan holmes
Yes, I didn't want anybody...
You were going to get so many Twitter messages that we're just going to be like, oh man.
dan friesen
I appreciate you checking me.
I told you before we started recording, I barely got any sleep last night.
Totally, that's what I'm here for.
jordan holmes
I'm not judging you.
dan friesen
No, I appreciate the subtle...
Shove.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Very subtle.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we have to do a little segment before we get into today's episode.
It's a segment that is taking the world by storm.
jordan holmes
Seems to be.
alex jones
Giving someone life is giving someone death.
You can say that life is death.
dan friesen
You can.
jordan holmes
That's true.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, Renee, who is the best cat uncle and snail dad, who had a birthday on the 6th.
Happy birthday, Renee.
Happy birthday.
Also, this is a weird one.
So, Sarah sent me a message and said that her friend Joe has a birthday in June here.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So, happy birthday, Joe.
jordan holmes
All right, Joe.
dan friesen
Sarah also told me that Joe will not say when his birthday is.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
Just that it's in the month of June.
jordan holmes
I like this.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I like this a great deal.
dan friesen
I'm conflicted.
jordan holmes
It's like Phil Hartman in News Radio.
dan friesen
I'm conflicted on one level.
I enjoy people retaining some mystery in their life.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But on the other hand, I'm like, just tell your friend when your birthday is.
If you're not on Facebook, they might not remember anyway.
These days, most people need that Facebook reminder to get a birthday.
jordan holmes
I mean, there's only one way to...
If somebody doesn't want to tell you their birthday, then you have to surreptitiously discover it in any way possible.
You know, like, follow them to the DMV one day.
Right, right.
And then be in the corner just with a little pair of magnifying glasses or opera glasses, if you will.
Something along those lines.
dan friesen
Yeah, you have to do something.
jordan holmes
You gotta do it.
dan friesen
Maybe you gotta reach out to a podcast and have the host bully.
jordan holmes
I think that's a good idea.
dan friesen
Tell Sarah what day your birthday is.
jordan holmes
Why haven't you texted his parents?
They're there.
They're ready and waiting to give you his birthday.
dan friesen
Also, this is not a birthday.
This is a congratulations to Camry.
He's graduating from the University of Ottawa this week.
I got an engineering degree.
I realize this is now just spiraling completely out of control.
jordan holmes
No, we've lost it completely.
This is our new show, basically.
I don't even know if we do Alex Jones-related content anymore.
dan friesen
And we have one more birthday message to send.
And this fella, Eric, actually sent a message he wanted me to read.
Jordan just shook his head at me.
jordan holmes
Sorry, Eric.
Eric, love you.
That's a big shake of the head for me.
dan friesen
Happy 22nd birthday, Alexandra.
You are the happily ever after in my story, and I hope you have a wonderful day.
Remember to work for progress, not perfection, and keep sight of what's on the other side.
There you go.
jordan holmes
All right.
Well, I'm not doing that again.
That was a good wedding toast, but I don't think it's ever happened again.
dan friesen
I'm not doing that again because we are getting dangerously close to territory that I am deeply uncomfortable with.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
We're borderline morning zoo crew at this point.
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, Alexandra, I hope you have a great birthday.
jordan holmes
Yes, of course.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
Being born is a condition that leads to death.
You can say that life is a disease that ends in death.
jordan holmes
Happy Life is Death Day to all of you.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
So, Jordan, we got this episode June 10th to go over.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
And here's another context drop from today's show.
alex jones
I mean, my testicles are like, I guess, like superstars.
dan friesen
Yeah, all right.
Alex's testicles are superstars.
jordan holmes
In what?
Like in testicle-related fields?
Or like as celebrity?
Is it an influencer situation here?
dan friesen
His testicles averaged 17 rebounds last season.
jordan holmes
I was gonna say.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
dan friesen
So he starts out the show, and I would describe it as a bad, weird mood if he were anybody but himself.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Since he is himself.
jordan holmes
It's a regular morning.
dan friesen
I would describe it as a pretty normal first hour of the show.
alex jones
Now, I've been saying this a lot before the show, just because all I do is tell you how I feel, that I'm having real trouble doing these broadcasts.
jordan holmes
That's a great way of putting it.
That's a really great way of putting it.
alex jones
Starting to set in on me that this is it.
And they're really killing people all around us and maiming people all around us.
And I was already ready today to come on air and look at the real numbers of the unprecedented amounts of young people having heart attacks, having strokes, even dying from the so-called COVID vaccines.
And then I was sent a big Twitter feed.
By a good friend of mine, a national talk show host.
About 30 minutes for the show, so I ended up reading this Twitter feed of medical documents and CDC numbers, and I actually got dizzy and almost passed out.
dan friesen
Alex almost passed out because he read a Twitter thread.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a little much.
jordan holmes
It's kind of amazing how accidentally self-aware that first bit.
All I do is get on the radio and tell you how I feel.
It's such a great, like, yeah, man!
You got it!
dan friesen
You have identified the problem.
unidentified
Yes, exactly!
jordan holmes
Yes, you nailed it!
All you do, people tune in to hear you feel things.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And it's...
Terrible!
dan friesen
It's somehow weirdly cathartic for people who are really angry.
jordan holmes
Yes!
Yeah!
Oh, God, no, that's me, isn't it?
unidentified
Shit!
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck.
dan friesen
Yeah, I was interested in what was going on here, what was up with this Twitter thread.
I wasn't so interested in his, like, I'm so angry I can't do the show.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
It's so fucking...
jordan holmes
We've heard it, yeah.
dan friesen
It happens all the time.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The present day is like, it's...
It's so boring with something that's so interesting.
Like, anybody else doing this would be groundbreaking.
Anybody who had a boss acting like this would be like, oh my god, they're gonna get fired.
jordan holmes
They must mean it.
This is how TV shows start, and then they get worse from there.
But the first episode you like.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Alex talks a little bit more about this.
alex jones
You know, you have that effect where, quote, women...
We'd get overwhelmed by something and just pass out.
And that's really the point I've gotten to, where I'm just like, nothing's stopping any of this.
It's just rolling forward.
I was reading about hundreds of thousands of people getting sick from the shots that are young, how they're targeting our children, and it just pisses me off.
And so my brain says, go out and you know what, people that are doing this.
I just, it's just overwhelming.
It's just overwhelming to watch them kill us like this.
dan friesen
So it is overwhelming.
jordan holmes
That's pretty overwhelming.
dan friesen
So I looked up the most recent information on the CDC's website, and there have been reports of 5,208 deaths of people who have gotten one of the COVID-19 vaccines.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
This is out of 302 million doses administered, which represents a.0017 death rate.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's too dangerous.
dan friesen
But that's even if you assume the ridiculous absolute worst case scenario that all of the deaths are even related or linked to the vaccines at all.
It would be a.0017%.
jordan holmes
That's just too dangerous for a vaccine, Dan.
dan friesen
And the truth of the matter is that they are not all connected.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
So it's too dangerous to even hear about the vaccine.
dan friesen
I guess so.
Also, there is something that's been happening lately.
There have been more reports of younger people having some heart inflammation that could be connected to vaccination.
And it's something that needs more study.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
There have been 623 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis in persons aged 30 or under post-vaccination.
These are primarily males.
And through review of medical records, the CDC was able to confirm 268 of these reports.
None of these cases have resulted in deaths, and only 15 ended up hospitalized, with 41 of them experiencing ongoing unspecified symptoms.
This is not good, obviously, and it's something that the CDC is investigating, and when they have more information, we'll know a bit more about it.
But the way that Alex is dealing with this story is just sensational to the point of...
Being dangerous.
It makes me want to do you know what.
Yeah, we do know what.
You're talking about killing people.
jordan holmes
It is amazing that he's doing part of the trolley ethical question where he's like, you know, we can't hurt one person with a vaccine to save five other people's lives.
What we need to do is throw that person in front of the train.
And then have the train run over the five people after that, and then I live happily ever after.
dan friesen
And that person I'm going to throw in front of a train is a doctor.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
Yes.
I'm going to get all of these people killed, and then I'm going to jump on top of the train and fly!
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, the first hour, I would say, is meandering.
It's a bit meandering, and it's unfortunate, because as we learn in this next clip, Alex has so much news that is so big.
jordan holmes
Like his balls.
dan friesen
He's getting chills.
alex jones
20 years ago, out of 100 articles or so, there might be one really big one.
I have more than 50 devastating reports that are confirmed that send chills up my spine.
jordan holmes
Lightning round.
alex jones
And it's the real realization of how screwed we are.
It'd be like if I walked outside and looked up at the sun and saw it explode, and I'd go, oh my gosh.
jordan holmes
That happened a thousand years ago.
alex jones
In just a few minutes, we're all dead.
It feels something kind of like that.
It's like the, ooh, wow.
Because they have set something in motion that is the planned, organized, total collapse of civilization and mass death.
dan friesen
So Alex is in a bad mood.
What makes you say that?
There's something happening.
We're all dead.
It's pretty definite.
There doesn't seem to be much wiggle room here.
jordan holmes
No, no.
This one seems serious.
If you're comparing it to the sun exploding, then I think that's the end for all of us.
dan friesen
Yeah, we're going to be dead in a few minutes.
jordan holmes
Even if it was the planned explosion into a red giant, Earth is still gone, man.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
And the way he's speaking about this is obviously meant to be like, there's nothing he can do.
We're all fucking dead.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And it's, I mean, it's certainly not inspiring.
jordan holmes
I don't think that's the, that's not the up over the hill men charge that you necessarily want.
dan friesen
Right.
I know that Patton, when he was giving some of his sort of famous speeches, would generally be like, we're fucking dead.
unidentified
We're screwed.
jordan holmes
We shall fight them on the beaches.
It won't matter.
You're all fucking dead.
unidentified
I saw the sun blow up.
dan friesen
So, I think that if you see the sun blow up, metaphorically, one of the things that you might want to do is run away to a bunker.
jordan holmes
I mean, if it's the sun, I would just lay down and be like, let's do this, man.
There's no hope at this point.
dan friesen
That's why I said metaphorically.
jordan holmes
Okay, metaphorically.
dan friesen
You might want to run away to the hills.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And Alex is certainly feeling that pressure.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
It's the end of civilization.
jordan holmes
Fast.
alex jones
And it's not even a selfishness, but my very selves say, get out of Austin, get your family out, and go to the most remote area and dig in now.
jordan holmes
Go.
alex jones
But if we do that, the globalists win.
Boo.
And they're going to accelerate their collapse and finally dig us out of our holes later.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Every movie, every show is now coming out with dystopic mass death, planetary extermination, robots killing us.
Under UN command because they're pre-conditioning everyone to accept that and that that is the future that's about to unfold.
And I mean, the video games, the movies, all of it.
dan friesen
What about movies from like the 60s about robots?
jordan holmes
No, no.
Battlestar Galactica never happened.
unidentified
Every movie is now about the UN having killer robots.
dan friesen
I don't know if that's true.
jordan holmes
I find it so funny that we're also in the past and he's like, I'm pretty sure that Saddam is in the United States or he's in Russia or he's in Australia.
And then he's like, they're going to come and dig us up out of our holes.
And I'm like, you don't even know, man.
dan friesen
Oh, you in the past don't even know.
jordan holmes
Some people get dug out of holes, buddy.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Alex is pretty doom-heavy here.
Even actually kind of more so than usual.
I think a lot of the time he doesn't descend this deeply.
Into that abyss.
jordan holmes
It seems early, too.
dan friesen
It was immediate.
alex jones
Yeah, that's...
jordan holmes
You gotta ease me into that.
dan friesen
It was immediate and it kept going over commercial breaks, too.
Like, you'd go to commercial and he'd come back and he was still doing this.
jordan holmes
Alright, okay.
dan friesen
We're all gonna fucking die.
jordan holmes
Alright.
So we're in full on the guy in Watchmen shouting for the end of the world territory.
That's what's going on.
dan friesen
Well, here's the situation, Jordan.
When you have been, like, let's say, I don't know, convicted of a horrible crime and you're put in front of the firing squad.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
They'll put a little blindfold over you.
jordan holmes
I always thought that was polite.
dan friesen
Yeah, so you don't have to see the bullet coming.
jordan holmes
You don't want to do that.
dan friesen
Alex is doing the opposite.
And in this next clip, he wonders if maybe he shouldn't do the opposite.
Maybe he should allow people to just have a blindfold on.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
This is not a deer in the headlights moment.
It's almost obscene to even tell everybody this.
It's kind of like they put a blindfold on somebody who's in a firing squad so they don't have to watch themselves be killed.
And they give you a cigarette, maybe a little bottle of brandy, an hour before.
jordan holmes
Also polite?
alex jones
So, you know what?
The public's not going to wake up and stop this anyways.
They don't want to.
We're cursed.
We kill our babies.
We kill our old people.
And so I guess, I just guess, prepare to have everything collapsed and destroyed and to die.
I mean, I guess that's just really it.
dan friesen
Prepare to die seems to be Alex's message at the beginning of the show today.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's a...
What day was the 10th?
Was that...
dan friesen
That was Thursdays.
jordan holmes
That was Thursday?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, right before the weekend.
I get it.
No, I get it.
You know, it's like Arthur Dent.
He just never got the hang of Thursdays, man.
That happens.
What are you gonna do?
It's tough.
You know, it's like everybody's working for the weekend.
It's just rough.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Loverboy was also pissed off as hell about Thursdays.
So there might be an answer.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe.
And from listening to this clip, I don't know if this is exactly the message you're going to take away from it, but it seems to me like maybe the answer is blindly accepting whatever Alex wants you to do and not questioning anything and just doing it.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
That seems to be what he thinks will solve all the problems in the world vis-a-vis the globalists.
jordan holmes
So he's starting a religion.
dan friesen
Maybe.
alex jones
Because this mad scientist evil...
This post-humanist evil has figured out all the angles.
And the only way you beat it is recognizing the angles and its full spectrum assault and then do the exact opposite.
But instead, the public likes to debate and argue and act silly and fight with each other at the low level.
And if you do that, we have zero chance.
If we just woke up and accepted God and did what God said to do and stood against the New World Order, then this evil would just evaporate like phantoms at dawn.
Everybody can feel it.
Everybody can see it.
unidentified
And...
alex jones
That's just what it comes down to.
So here's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to make sure we stay on air as long as we can and make sure that's dealt with, make sure our own house is in order.
And then I'm going to come back and I'm going to hit all the snitch as best I can.
I'm just going to cover it and that's going to be it.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Alex, you're still doing this job.
Maybe next few segments you can't put stuff on screen because I'm here talking and they just put a screen clip up of people in New York saying, we want to wear masks forever.
We don't want to take them off.
We like them.
They're our blankets.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
And that's something I was going to cover later.
But see, that's painful to look at.
And so I'm right on the edge of just not being able to handle this anymore.
Plus, it then just becomes a distraction.
From what I'm already covering, what I'm doing.
And I'm not bitching at the crew.
I told them to put stuff up on screen.
It's just at this point, I may have to start doing a show in a radio booth and the crew can go run other shows or something.
And I'm just going to go back to reading articles and covering those because I can't look.
At Joe Biden, I can't look at the mask cult.
I can't look at another animal human clone.
dan friesen
Aren't we already dead?
What's going on?
jordan holmes
Okay, so if I understand correctly, here's how the show is going so far.
dan friesen
I think also that clip is very indicative of how the show is going.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
So, please.
So, if I understand correctly, we're all dead.
We're all already dead.
We need to prepare to die.
My crew put up a picture of Joe Biden and people supporting him, so I am going to throw a hissy fit.
I'm going to go off the air.
The end.
dan friesen
I don't even think it's I'm going to go off the air.
I'm going to threaten to just do radio now because I'm too distracted by images.
jordan holmes
That's bananas.
That is unprofessional to a level of pathology.
dan friesen
I think it's honestly just solving the wrong problem.
I'm too distracted by pictures to do my job, and therefore get rid of the pictures.
I guess it is a solution, but, you know.
jordan holmes
If somebody jangles plastic keys in the room, I can no longer function as a human being.
So, just get rid of all plastic keys everywhere, Dan.
It makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
That does make sense, unless jangling plastic keys are a major component of your job.
jordan holmes
There is that.
That is a problem.
I work at a jangling keys factory, so there are a lot of disorienting things.
dan friesen
You might have to learn how to focus your attention better.
jordan holmes
You could change you.
That was possible.
I'm just tossing that out there.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
And I think that also the idea of if you just saw all the angles and all of this, we would just be able to defeat the New World Order.
That's just your code for if everybody just...
Thought the exact same way I did.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Nonsense.
jordan holmes
If we all just did what God told us to do, who's telling me what God is telling me to do?
Let me ask you that question, because that's a really important question for me.
dan friesen
Spoiler alert, it's Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
So, the vaccine side effects are something that Alex is greatly exaggerating and not dealing with seriously.
And if you need any more evidence of that...
alex jones
You know, the worst thing is reading all these federal documents and how they know.
By design, that they're giving the young people shots now that are going to mess up their hearts, livers, and brains and lungs for life, which is not going to be very long.
And then, of course, I knew this a while ago while they're doing it.
It's not just about killing you.
It's a sacrifice of the youth, and that pleases their God.
Also, it's going to weigh down and hurt their families and cause great anguish in their families.
Because you're supposed to bury your parents, not bury your children.
dan friesen
Yeah, you see?
You see?
These vaccines, the side effects that people might experience are a sacrament to Satan.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
I just can't disagree with any of that.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It's just airtight.
You're not supposed to bury your parents.
Or, I mean, the other way around.
dan friesen
I've heard that said.
Yeah, parents aren't supposed to bury their child.
jordan holmes
See, there we go.
And then, if that makes sense, I assume that all the preceding arguments have to make sense as well.
dan friesen
It all tracks.
jordan holmes
It all tracks, yeah.
dan friesen
So the public is in a trance, and that is a problem for Alex, because his whole thing is about, like, dealing with people who aren't in a trance.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but it seems like that is the better thing, if we're all gonna die no matter what.
As he was arguing earlier, maybe just let people stay in the trance.
dan friesen
Put on a blindfold.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
I think that Alex is essentially admitting failure here because his self-appointed role is that guy who yells and wakes people up out of their trance.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So if his primary complaint is that people are too much in a trance, that means that you are ineffective at the job you have given yourself.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So I don't know if I'd be proud of this next clip if I were Alex.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And then I just see the public mesmerized into a trance watching their sports.
Playing their video games.
And I can't join the globalists because that's evil and I don't want to prey on people.
And then most of the public...
jordan holmes
He says predatorily.
alex jones
I'm saying...
I guess we're just here to tell the truth and let people make a decision for themselves and it'll all work out in God's plan.
But...
unidentified
I mean, I...
alex jones
I feel like I'm being punched in the chest right now.
And I don't know what it is I'm supposed to do to not feel like that.
I don't really feel good about everything I'm doing.
jordan holmes
Quit your job.
alex jones
And almost always when I feel like this, it means there's some answer.
There's something we're supposed to do right now that will stop this.
And I guess that's really what it is.
I feel extreme guilt.
And I'm not someone in my life that feels a lot of guilt.
dan friesen
You should.
alex jones
And I know that...
jordan holmes
You should feel a lot of guilt.
alex jones
That's why I may have to go off air today.
Because I don't want to just sit up here and talk about how I feel.
This isn't some calculated thing before I came in today to say all this.
I have stacks of government documents, stacks of reports that are all total nightmares, all 10 on a Richter scale of tyranny.
jordan holmes
Just some person nearby just needs to be like, Alex, just do your job.
Just shut up and do your job.
dan friesen
What are you doing?
Don't talk about how well you could do your job.
jordan holmes
Don't talk about how it's everybody else's fault you can't do your job.
dan friesen
A little annoying.
jordan holmes
Just do your job, man.
Just one time.
dan friesen
And I would argue that it actually is a calculated thing that Alex is doing.
And not necessarily because he decided to get on air and act like a weirdo.
It's that he didn't prepare at all.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
dan friesen
He chose not to get ready to do his show at all, and so he has to fill time rambling about nothing.
Now we're all gonna die.
jordan holmes
You can't just come out and say, sorry, I have to burn an hour because I've only got two.
dan friesen
I have too much news to get over.
I have to talk about all of this.
I'm gonna kill a third of the show saying...
Complete horseshit nothing.
jordan holmes
Gotta.
Gotta do that.
I gotta do that to really get into the news.
dan friesen
But you know what else he has to do?
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
Predict things.
mike lindell
Okay.
alex jones
And we'll be sitting here in a year or two with, you know, run 10K to raise money because, you know, all the neurological problems and they'll have movie stars up there, well, let's get together and finally at a certain point 10 years down the road or even sooner they'll say, well, folks are signing on to volunteer to be euthanized.
Because they know they're too much of a weight on society, and they'll get some extra money and get to a party for a few weeks before they are killed.
And that's all the plan here.
dan friesen
That's the plan.
Is this plan F now?
jordan holmes
We got a lot of plans up in the air.
unidentified
A lot of plans.
jordan holmes
A lot of plans up in the air all the time.
I don't know if I can handle this many plans.
dan friesen
They don't seem like complimentary plans.
jordan holmes
No, they sure don't.
dan friesen
Yeah, so then two years, celebrities will be doing...
5K charity things.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I would assume that's true.
Not necessarily for people who were hurt by a vaccine side effect from COVID, but there are certainly experiences that people have had about long COVID.
Totally.
There are things that we will learn moving forward that we're not aware of now or we're starting to become aware of now.
I could see celebrities doing fundraising for some sort of a charity in that line.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Ten years from now, Alex believes there will be so many people who have been hurt by the COVID vaccine that there will be euthanasia drives going on where you get to party a little bit if you agree to let them kill you.
jordan holmes
Get a little extra money.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then you die.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
So it's a little bit like Looper?
Is that kind of what we're dealing with here?
We're dealing with you sign a contract for about 10 years and then you get killed?
dan friesen
It's kind of like suicide bombers but without the bomb.
jordan holmes
It does seem a little bit like that.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
I think this is one of them predictions that Alex is going to forget he made.
jordan holmes
Who's going to run the 5Ks 10 years from now when we've got all these euthanasia drives going on?
dan friesen
All the runners will be dead.
jordan holmes
I assume they're the first to go.
dan friesen
So when you were worried about, like, who's going to be interpreting the words of God.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And I told you it was Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I tend to be worried about that, too.
dan friesen
I believe that it's Alex primarily because he seems to think the churches are all full of betrayers.
jordan holmes
Well, there's that.
alex jones
So this is in-the-day stuff.
And your church isn't going to say a word.
They just want to party.
They just want to have a good time.
jordan holmes
A lot like churches, I know.
unidentified
Hell.
alex jones
You're not going to find more satanic people than the folks that run the churches.
Because they're the real betrayers that went there to make sure there wouldn't be a church to fight this when it was needed.
So I'm sorry, folks.
I'm real sorry.
And I'm not trying to depress you.
It means God's plan's real and we're being judged, but this is going to be rough.
dan friesen
My church wants to party all the time.
jordan holmes
God, there are so many...
Fucking parties at my church when I was...
Oh, God.
All the time.
Non-stop partying.
dan friesen
Even the parties that we did have at our church weren't fun.
jordan holmes
No, we didn't even have communion wine.
We had run out from so many fucking parties, Dan.
dan friesen
In our youth group, we had like every...
I think it was every Sunday.
We have evening, Sunday evening youth group services or whatever.
And afterwards they'd get Papa John's pizza.
jordan holmes
Yes!
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But you had to pay for a slice.
That's not fun.
That's not a party.
jordan holmes
In the church?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh man, you realize Jesus would have run in there and started throwing pizza all around the place like, no comment!
dan friesen
Flipping the peppercini box.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course!
Also, olives?
Olives!
dan friesen
Yeah, it was not fun.
jordan holmes
I'm Jesus, and I don't like olives.
dan friesen
This episode is just a mess.
Like, the whole first hour is this.
It is outrageous.
And it's even worse once Alex starts trying to explain why he's feeling the way he is, because it's just such bullshit.
alex jones
So here's what sent me for a tailspin, because I already knew all this, but it kind of all crystallized 10 minutes for the show.
unidentified
So.
alex jones
And then...
There's some things I want to tell you, and I can't tell you because of the sources, and they told me not to.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
And I've never...
I've blown a source, and I've never given information out.
Sometimes there's information you can't give out, because if you give out any of it, it gives it away from the source before they finish the work they're doing.
But there's a major counter-strike to all this in the works right now.
But it's been confirmed, the documents have been seen, that this is a kill plan.
dan friesen
So there's a kill plan.
Okay.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
So yeah, Alex has a source that he can't give up.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he can't speak in specifics because the source, you know, would blow their cover.
jordan holmes
Still working too hard.
alex jones
Yes.
jordan holmes
Still working undercover, I guess?
dan friesen
Is Alex talking to Steve again?
jordan holmes
Is this a double agent situation?
Is this somebody in the government who's viewing the kill plan documents?
dan friesen
Anybody who actually has access to anything would never talk to a dick like this.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
No one would talk to Alex.
He gets on air and talks about how we're all going to die for an hour at the beginning of his show.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Not going to be like, oh, hey, Alex, I've got to get your brain in on this.
jordan holmes
See, this is why I just can't be allowed to be part of the government, because I swear to God, I would crank call Alex at least once a week and be like, I've got some documents for you.
I'd send him pictures of bullshit.
It would never not be hilarious to me for them to show up the next day.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It would just never not be fun.
dan friesen
I'm not certain that you have to work in the government to do that.
Get yourself a ProtonMail address.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure!
dan friesen
And I think you could probably plant some stories.
jordan holmes
Lieutenant Colonel Bull S. Hit at ProtonMail.com.
dan friesen
Mr. Bull, I'm a big fan.
unidentified
My grandpa served.
dan friesen
Under you and...
jordan holmes
Which one did your great-grandpa serve in?
Was it the north or the south?
Which one was it?
unidentified
Texas.
jordan holmes
Okay, Texas.
Okay, okay, I gotcha.
dan friesen
So yeah, I guess Alex was sent into a tailspin at the beginning or right before the show because of some secret information that he got from a source or a Twitter thread that he read that almost made him pass out.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Not entirely sure which it is, but maybe a secret source is this Twitter thread.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I mean, I understand being thrown off by what would be relatively petty things.
Like, one thing that threw me off during that clip was literally going like, why don't I remember the theme song to Tailspin?
And then I realized that because every time I think about the theme song to Tailspin, I go, did it, Tailspin, wee!
And I'm like, that's DuckTales.
That's DuckTales.
Do you remember Tailspin?
dan friesen
I think I did the exact same thing that you did in my head.
jordan holmes
Just then?
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that it might not have had lyrics.
jordan holmes
I remember it having...
Loud drums.
dan friesen
I think the Tailspin theme song didn't have lyrics.
I think it was just instrumental.
unidentified
Interesting.
dan friesen
I'm not sure, but I did do the DuckTales thing.
jordan holmes
Totally, totally.
dan friesen
So we got a kill plan on our hands.
Not entirely sure exactly how this is going to play out.
Who do you think is way up at the top of this?
And I'll tell you, not a person, organization.
jordan holmes
Organization.
Okay, so if you're asking me, it can't be the UN.
That seems too obvious.
dan friesen
Well, actually, I'm asking you because we've been listening to this show for all the time that COVID has existed.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And you should know by now who's running all this.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
If there's a kill plan, who's running it?
jordan holmes
Well, the devil, of course.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
Oh, China.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Biden?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Stelter?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Fauci?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
The CFR?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
The UN?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Brazil?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
alex jones
I've been talking to folks that have seen the official government plans.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
CIA?
alex jones
Put out by the major foundations.
dan friesen
Oh.
alex jones
The Carnegie Endowment.
That's why the Carnegie Endowment is now in full control.
Bill Gates works for him.
The CIA is run by the Carnegie Endowment.
And it's just a total extermination plan.
I mean, final solution, we're all dead.
It's like, wow.
jordan holmes
Wow.
alex jones
You guys are really evil.
Because I knew they were evil, but man, it's bad enough wanting to wipe out third world people.
I don't want to kill them, but I know that they don't have jobs, futures.
Any of that, I'm not signed on to kill them, but this plan is to kill everybody.
dan friesen
Whoa, that got weird at the end there.
jordan holmes
That's just bad writing.
That's just bad writing to all of a sudden come up with a brand new villain at the very end to swoop in.
That's like if at the end of the Scooby-Doo episode they took the mask off and they're like, Terry from three towns down the street?
What are you doing here?
And he's like, oh, just do this.
dan friesen
I'm certain that Alex has never been like...
Big on the Carnegie Endowment.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
That was not some organization that's come up as one of our, even in the mix, players.
jordan holmes
No, not tertiary.
Not tangential.
Just gone.
dan friesen
Johns Hopkins is constantly a villain.
The Gates Foundation, of course.
Naturally.
CFR, obviously.
The Rockefeller Foundation.
Yeah, I don't know.
jordan holmes
I mean, the Rothschilds are always in the mix.
You could have just tossed the Rothschilds in there.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
Carnegie Endowment.
jordan holmes
Carnegie Endowment.
Boo.
You know what you have to do to destroy the world, Dan?
Practice, practice, practice.
dan friesen
Also, fuck Alex for saying that stuff about people in the developing world.
They have no futures.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Go fuck yourself.
jordan holmes
Go fuck yourself.
dan friesen
So Alex has these sources that have told him about the kill plan.
And he doesn't just believe these sources.
Now, I should tell you.
He does just believe these people.
jordan holmes
Well, naturally.
dan friesen
But he doesn't just believe them.
alex jones
No.
I mean, see, I've just got stuff like that going on.
And I don't just believe people that have seen the documents.
I can see the documents all in front of me, how they're implementing it.
Everything I was told by the individual that saw this plan.
And hell, the plan is in Event 201.
The plan is in Lockstep.
The plan is in Crimson Contagion.
The plan is all there.
But specifically, they've reached the point now of recruiting levels deep into government and corporations and have gone operational now, so they're even telling people the plan to get them on board.
Hey, like, you know, if you and your family are going to live, if you want to be part of that 500 million that live on the Georgia Guidestones, you better get on board right now, and you'll get a space for your family during the collapse.
But, of course, you read deeper, and this is what these individuals were able to see.
It's exactly what they've told us, that they believe all humans must be gotten rid of, and above that, there's not much knowledge, but everybody, including top Pentagon, four-star generals, they think it's aliens.
Some deal's been made with aliens to kill everybody.
And then the people, the small group that does it gets to, like, the Borg or whatever, join these things.
Man, all I'm telling you is that everybody's dead.
That's all I can tell you.
dan friesen
Everybody's dead.
jordan holmes
I mean...
If true, I guess there's nothing really we can do, right?
I mean, if you make a deal with aliens, that's above my pay grade.
dan friesen
Four-star generals think there's a deal with aliens.
jordan holmes
Then we gotta get new generals!
dan friesen
Yeah, that would be good.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There's been a deal with aliens.
There's only going to be 500 billion left.
We made a deal with aliens.
It's a real bummer.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, on the one hand, what if the aliens' other deal was like, we kill everybody?
dan friesen
That's a good deal!
Compared to that?
jordan holmes
Yeah, compared to the human extinction?
dan friesen
If we live in a scenario where there is kill everyone or kill all but 100 people, obviously kill all but 100 people is the preferable option to everybody dying.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, it's all made up, so...
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
We go back to the trolley problem again.
dan friesen
Alex is just feeling bad.
jordan holmes
What if there are 7.7 billion people in front of a train, and we've got 100 we can save?
I think it makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
So you gotta just get right with God, because everybody's gonna die.
And Alex is just, he's giving very little hope at all in this first hour.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Get right with God.
jordan holmes
Do the aliens know God?
dan friesen
It's debatable whether they're actually aliens.
They might be demons.
jordan holmes
They might be demons.
dan friesen
That's fair.
jordan holmes
You're right.
dan friesen
So you've got to get right with God.
And then Alex introduces a guest he's going to have.
And mic down for this, because he honestly sounds a little bit pissed that he's going to be interviewing.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
And the dominoes are falling.
The program has already started.
The countdown is here.
And I don't know what to do.
I just get right with God.
That's all I can say.
Instead, we'll talk to the MyPillow guy.
Which will be fun, I'm sure.
Nice guy.
unidentified
Really cares.
alex jones
Has a good heart.
Fight the tyranny.
Wow.
dan friesen
Get right with God.
jordan holmes
Instead, we're going to talk to the MyPillow guy.
dan friesen
You can almost hear the silent, we're going to talk to the fucking MyPillow guy.
unidentified
Yes, totally.
jordan holmes
No, no, I heard it.
I heard the fucking that was not spoken so loud.
dan friesen
So this is the episode where Mike Lindell from MyPillow comes on for his first appearance on InfoWars, which is...
Baffling that it's his first appearance.
jordan holmes
That is baffling.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And it says a lie.
jordan holmes
For a guy to go from limerick soap man to shit-talking the MyPillow guy, I'm just saying, maybe you're getting above your britches there, buddy.
dan friesen
Well, I was thinking about what the dynamics are here and why Alex might be not super happy about this.
And I think why Mike wouldn't be super happy about this either is because this is neither of their first choice.
No.
Alex probably doesn't want to talk to him because he's nuts.
And he has the potential to drag Alex into litigation with slanderous claims.
jordan holmes
Totally.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
He's throwing him around like water.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think that he's somebody who...
You know, you could end up getting dragged into court for having too close of an association with, particularly in this sort of a setting, interviewing them and allowing them to broadcast slanderous claims about Various things and people and organizations.
jordan holmes
It does seem like Mike Lindell comes along with the same producer as like a prank show, where after you talk to Mike Lindell, some lawyer just runs up to you real quick and he's like, okay, I just need to give you a quick interview.
You're going to need to sign this statement.
dan friesen
You're going to sign these 50 statements.
jordan holmes
Exactly, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I also think that Mike can't be super happy about this either, because...
He's been in the Trump orbit in one of these people for a while now.
If he wanted to be on Infowars, he would have been on there long ago.
jordan holmes
Long ago.
dan friesen
He would have been on there when Roger was on and when the good days were going.
And the reason that he didn't is because obviously no one wants to be on Infowars.
It's the last resort.
Even for these shithead crifters.
jordan holmes
Even for the MyPillow guy.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
This is slumming it.
dan friesen
Mike Lindell is doing this because he's not allowed on those other channels anymore because he's being sued by Smartmatic and Dominion and those claims are all he wants to talk about.
And those networks just won't let him spread that shit.
So, where can he?
Infowars.
Alex is the last person who will let him.
jordan holmes
The TV networks are better lawyers than Mike Lindell's lawyers because they're the only people who are like, no, we can't have you talking about your case on air.
dan friesen
We're going to learn that Mike actually just lost his lawyer.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
A little bit later in this interview.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
So, Alex, before he gets into the actual interview with Mike Lindell, he's going to talk a little bit about how the last hour was pretty heavy.
And it was.
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
I got pretty wound up last hour, got into some heavy issues, but I'm just telling you where the globalists want to take us if they succeed.
They're going to fail.
But as we get Mike Lindell back on and ready, please remember we're Lister supported, and I thank you all, and you're amazing.
Just like they tried to bankrupt and shut down Mike Lindell, they tried to shut us down.
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dan friesen
Fun.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Ooh, if you add mega, you've already admitted you're done.
You know, the moment you're like, this is our mega health supplement, you're making bullshit up.
dan friesen
Very much so.
Yeah.
It's interesting to me, though, the way that Alex spends an hour saying, we're all dead, everybody's dead, fuck it, we're gonna die, it doesn't matter, we're all dead.
And then he sort of tries to walk it back there with like, I'm just talking about what the globalists want to do if they win, they're gonna lose.
Like, as if to undo...
All that he did in the last hour, that hour could have been anything else, then.
jordan holmes
Anything.
dan friesen
Anything else.
It was meaningless.
It's a completely meaningless hour of just a guy trying to get people scared and hopeless.
jordan holmes
I mean, okay, so what he did was spend an hour telling us that we're all gonna die.
And then his way of apology is like, this is only if they win and they're going to lose.
Now, that first hour would be valuable if you were giving me steps on how to make them lose.
Right?
Because you're giving me the intense fear.
You know what?
Never mind.
You're right.
That hour was incredibly important to letting me know why I need to buy those mega supplements.
dan friesen
That's the destination of the walk that we were on.
jordan holmes
I'm so tired.
That was a long walk to get there.
dan friesen
You think you're tired?
jordan holmes
I do.
dan friesen
Mike Lindell's tired.
He works a lot.
jordan holmes
I believe that.
alex jones
Mike, great to finally get you on air with us.
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Sincere.
mike lindell
Thanks for having me on.
alex jones
You're a busy guy working 20 hours a day.
Wow.
mike lindell
Yeah, I just landed.
I'm in Michigan today.
I've been going all around this country trying to get this election pulled down, and we will get it pulled down.
dan friesen
So we're in 20-hour days trying to overturn the election.
What are you doing for 20 hours?
jordan holmes
That's a really good question.
dan friesen
I don't know what amount of work there is to be done on this front.
jordan holmes
I guess writing letters?
dan friesen
It could be.
jordan holmes
Traveling to another place and then writing letters?
dan friesen
I guess there's no time limit on talking shit.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
That's probably what he's doing.
jordan holmes
I mean, does it qualify as work if no one's around to hear you talk shit?
Is that our new, like, if a tree falls in the forest?
If Mike Lindell is telling you about the stolen election and no one's around to hear it.
dan friesen
If you're your own boss, you can count that as on the clock.
I think so!
jordan holmes
Tax deductible, at least.
dan friesen
Mike Lindell's got this argument about overturning the election, right?
Sure.
Some arguments, maybe they're three of a kind.
Maybe they're a full house.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Not Mike's argument.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Royal flush, baby.
jordan holmes
Okay, all right.
mike lindell
It's been pretty amazing because it's like you're sitting here with a royal flush in a poker game and we're just waiting to play it.
We're going to bring it to the Supreme Court in July as a quo warrant.
jordan holmes
That's fast.
mike lindell
It's just a matter of getting the word out to every person in this country.
Getting it out there so the Supreme Court has pressure to accept it.
dan friesen
Not a fucking chance.
jordan holmes
The Supreme Court has pressure to accept this case.
dan friesen
Not a fucking chance.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
This seems to be the theme of what he's trying to get to.
We need to get everybody on board with this so the Supreme Court can't reject it.
I think he probably isn't stupid enough to think that that's really how things would work.
I think he knows that by the time people realize that the Supreme Court's not going to take this case up, we still will have fleeced them.
jordan holmes
Tends to be the case.
It does seem like you are always moving the date where we're going to get that royal flush up.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
I mean, you've got to play it.
jordan holmes
You're never pushing it back.
You're never like, hey, on the date, you're always like, and now next month we'll get there.
dan friesen
And you know what?
The honest-to-God thing is that if he can get this in front of the Supreme Court...
Things are going to move real fast.
jordan holmes
That's probably true.
mike lindell
Things are going great.
I couldn't be happier the way things are going in our country right now.
jordan holmes
Really?
mike lindell
Like I said before, our president will be back.
I said August I could be off by a month or two.
jordan holmes
Really?
alex jones
Well, I know this.
You've been quarterbacking the resistance, and I believe in you, and I know you've been behind the scenes.
I've talked to a lot of folks you've been working with.
I'll leave it at that.
But President Trump, our real president, now in his second term, with the Chinese agent Biden there, This weekend, as you know, he came out in the video saying, oh, we're going to take back the Senate, we're going to take back the House and the White House sooner than you think.
And I've talked to folks that have met with Trump.
He is really excited, and he believes when the evidence comes out, there's a strategy.
So, wow, tell us about that.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
Trump's gonna be president again in August.
jordan holmes
That is a lot sooner than I was expecting.
Yeah.
That was sooner than I planned for, specifically.
dan friesen
This is such a goddamn rollercoaster.
It's like, the first hour is we're all gonna die, and then Mike Lindell comes in and is like, no, Trump will be president again within a few months.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
mike lindell
What?
jordan holmes
Yeah, the globalist plan seems very easy to sidestep.
Just completely?
unidentified
How are you supposed to feel if you're a listener to this show?
dan friesen
It's so untethered.
jordan holmes
You're dead in a year.
Boo.
President Trump!
Yay!
This is just how you go through this broadcast.
Just a constant stream of, look, I'm bipolar and this is fucking with my head.
dan friesen
If I took any of this seriously as being at all based in reality, I would have a very difficult time emotionally surfing these waves.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
No, one of the big things that I try and do to cope is, like, lower the amount of intense emotional stimuli that I receive.
I believe if I listened to one of these broadcasts, I would be running through the streets screaming.
dan friesen
That's why the delegation of labor is the way it is.
jordan holmes
Yes, it makes sense.
dan friesen
The only way this could work.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, once the Supreme Court in July gets a hold of this case, they're gonna rule nine to zero.
You understand me?
Unanimous.
jordan holmes
I really think the best you're going for is 5-4 there.
I don't think Roberts is going to side with you guys.
dan friesen
9-0.
mike lindell
When the Supreme Court looks at this, it's not subjective evidence.
So it's going to be 9-0.
Not 8-1, 7-2.
It has to be 9-0 because this isn't subjective evidence.
So they're going to pull this down.
And now, but everybody needs to know, there's a couple other things.
One is, there were many down tickets, too, that were flipped, especially with, you know, senators like John James, both senators in Georgia, Jason Lewis from Minnesota, many congressmen, many, I mean, this wasn't just at the presidential level.
And in our country, I want everybody to know this, there's no statute of limitations on this.
Everyone says, come on, Mike, that's too hard to believe.
Well, let me tell you something.
Would you believe we'd be in this position a year and a half ago?
No.
But I will tell you this.
Every election in the United States in history, if you find out there was a crime committed after the fact or that the other person won in any way, let's say it was just a mistake, whatever it was, they put the person that won back in office, and if there was a crime committed by anyone else, they get arrested.
That's right.
alex jones
Let's use the sports analogy that's happened hundreds of times, prominently, thousands of times in smaller cases, where you find out the other team cheated, so the other team cheated, they then forfeit it, and then it's given to who they actually cheated against.
dan friesen
Do you notice how Alex used a sports metaphor instead of an example from the world of politics?
jordan holmes
It does seem like a sports metaphor has more opportunities.
dan friesen
Yeah, like if you're in a boxing match and it later comes out that your opponent was on the juice or something like that, you might end up having the other person forfeit.
Yes, that's true.
I'm hard-pressed to come up with examples from the history of our courts.
I mean, there have been instances where there were really close races.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And somebody who had won.
After a recount, they had flipped the winner.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Or something like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know if I can think of any example of what they're talking about.
jordan holmes
Not off the top of my head.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
I would say the thing that's most surprising to me about this whole conversation is the idea that Mike Lindell was talking to somebody about this and was like, we've got an open and shut case.
It's all done.
And that person responded with...
No, it's out of the statute of limitations.
dan friesen
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
And then Mike Lindell says, there's no statute of limitations.
And this person goes, what?
I can't believe that!
dan friesen
In that case, I'm going to re-litigate.
jordan holmes
I think this is the way to do it.
dan friesen
So like, what was it, 68?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's go back to the beginning.
I don't think TJ won that election.
I'm going to go out there right now.
I think he stole it.
dan friesen
And you know what's fucking awesome about that, too?
You undo one of those past elections and it throws everything.
jordan holmes
Gotta do them all.
Gotta start all over.
unidentified
It throws everything into chaos, because what if it was a two-term president?
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Then the second term they didn't win either.
unidentified
The whole thing is over.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The whole country has to reset from the beginning.
We dig up George Washington and we get him back in there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I honestly think that that might be a better solution to this fanciful nonsense.
Like, I mean, this isn't a better solution.
jordan holmes
Digging up George Washington?
dan friesen
No, not exactly, but sort of.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Metaphorically.
If Mike Lindell were to...
Let me be clear, really clear.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
None of this is going to happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course not.
dan friesen
If he were to have incontrovertible evidence that this election was stolen by foreign powers or whatever, and he gets it to the Supreme Court and they vote 9-0 in July, I think the answer isn't put Trump back in office.
It's write a new constitution.
If our country has failed, let's figure something better out.
jordan holmes
Frankly, we should already be starting the new constitution process as we speak.
dan friesen
Let's just take this country like an etch-a-sketch.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
We'll hold on to some of the good stuff.
jordan holmes
Sure!
dan friesen
Some of the protections and rights.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Mike Lindell is being sued by Dominion.
jordan holmes
I would even go so far as to rewrite that 13th Amendment to include prisoners.
And not, you know, just be like, slaves are bad unless they committed a crime one time!
dan friesen
So Mike Lindell is being sued by Dominion and Smartmatic over claims about their...
Their computers and their technology being used intentionally to rig an election.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a big one.
dan friesen
I think he's being sued for...
It's in the billions.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, yep.
I think punitive damages would suggest that's a good idea.
dan friesen
Now, there's something you may not have heard.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
Mike Lindell is also suing them.
jordan holmes
I have not heard that.
What crimes have they committed?
dan friesen
You've got to watch his documentary.
jordan holmes
Oh, I can't do that.
I can't do that.
I'm sorry.
dan friesen
We'll talk about it here in a minute.
But anyway, he's suing them, and there's a minor setback in that his lawyer quit.
And apparently, Jordan, this is cancel culture.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
mike lindell
Now, last Thursday, this is really key.
I sued Dominion.
And Smartmatic.
I threw them in there, too, because they're all in cahoots together.
And for $2 billion.
You didn't hear about that probably in the news.
But I even put their lawyers as co-conspirators.
I put down their lawyers because their lawyers have served papers, either lawsuits or threatening letters to over 200 people in this country and news outlets, including Fox and whoever.
So everybody lives in fear of being sued.
Well, when I did that last Thursday, I had to get a local council in Minnesota.
I got so many lawyers, I don't even know their names.
But I got a local council in Minnesota to serve them in Minneapolis federal court.
This law firm said, yes, that's great, we'll do it.
So we did it.
They signed up.
They were attacked on Thursday night by bots and trolls and email and the left and the communism.
Who knows who all attacked them.
So then on Friday...
They fired one of their lawyers and said they blamed it on that lawyer for even taking Mike Lindell's case so they could get out there out from under the attack.
It's just more cancel culture.
dan friesen
It's cancel culture, man.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
It just seems like maybe the law firm was more like...
Whoops.
I don't think the billable hours is worth this.
dan friesen
Yes.
This is going to really be a drag.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we thought we could go under the radar and just bill Mike Lindell for money.
dan friesen
Oh, we looked at Mike Lindell's books, and granted, he's bizarrely rich for someone who has a pillow company, but not that rich.
jordan holmes
We can let him go.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, he's got this new documentary.
These documentaries have been like absolute proof.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Absolute collusion.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And now this new one is called Absolute 9-0.
Oh boy.
In honor of the Supreme Court vote.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah, yeah.
mike lindell
This is the cyber evidence.
Everybody needs to watch this video.
It's absolutely 9-0.
This is the cyber proof against Dominion, against all this.
It shows China attacking our country, what they did.
dan friesen
So I like to give everyone a fair chance to be heard.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So I went ahead and I watched this film.
And I want to tell you this right off the bat, I was not convinced.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
I think your standards of evidence are a little bit higher than the Supreme Court's, though, Dan.
dan friesen
There's nothing persuasive in the film, and it's honestly mostly just Mike talking into his phone, like he's recording on his phone.
His ear pods are in.
He's talking to an alleged cyber expert whose face and voice are distorted and is an anonymous person to who knows what the fuck he is.
jordan holmes
He's got to be anonymous.
dan friesen
So what it boils down to is that Mike is claiming that he has what's called packet captures, or the raw information from these computers that proves that votes were being changed on election night.
He shows these long scrolls of numbers over and over again in the documentary as if to insist that even though you can't read this code, it's so definitive that Trump is going to be president again in no time.
Mike does say multiple times that these scrolls of numbers are actually the packet captures that they're working from.
That's a problem.
The Washington Post, among others, pointed out that these scrolls of numbers are not packet captures, and they're not even in the right format that that information would be found in.
This sort of data that's transmitted over the internet is generally in binary, whereas this is all hexadecimal code.
So it just doesn't even make sense what the claims that are being made.
jordan holmes
That's going to be a tough hurdle for him to jump at the Supreme Court, but if he's got this kind of proof, I don't know.
dan friesen
The Post took a look at some of the code and translated it into readable letters.
jordan holmes
Mike Lindell is a piece of shit.
dan friesen
It appears to be the Pennsylvania voter roll, which is publicly available information.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It might be a safe assumption to believe that this scroll of numbers is a dumb prop, and this pixelated cyber expert is someone doing some fun role-playing, and this is just a bunch of bullshit.
jordan holmes
That sounds likely.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Mm-hmm.
There's an inverse relationship between confidence in a set of numbers that a pillow person cannot read and truth behind those numbers.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Alex, I don't know what it was.
Like, I think Mike Lindell was a little delayed.
And so when he was like, oh, we're going to talk to the MyPillow guy, it might have been a situation where it's like, he's late for the interview.
And so, like, maybe that was what was frustrating him.
Because Alex is saying a number of positive things.
He's being pretty polite and positive and putting up with some clearly nonsensical things that Mike is saying.
jordan holmes
He's trying to be a good scene partner.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think what he's doing is he's chasing a contract that's not going to come.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's a little too late.
The cash cow...
I mean, I would if I were him.
It's easy money.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think when it comes to...
But I think it's too late.
dan friesen
He's getting sued for billions of dollars.
jordan holmes
When it comes to principles versus gaining money, I think Alex is going to go for gaining money every single time.
But that money just won't be there for long.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think it's too late.
He's fishing in a dry well.
But he does say some nice things about Mike.
And then, accidentally, a MyPillow commercial breaks out.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
My listeners still love Trump, but I love Trump.
I want him to run for president again.
He is our president.
I want him to run for the Speaker House, whatever he wants.
But from a listenership view on the street, people sort of ask me more often, do you know Mike Lindell instead of you know Trump?
Because it's an example.
People want action.
They want somebody to stand up.
And I know Trump had to lick his wounds, get ready, totally cut off a few months to exercise, lose weight.
Trump's looking great.
He's giving speeches.
We're trying to arrest his whole family with set up.
I'm not criticizing Trump when I hold up Mike Lindell.
I'm saying he's the example of putting it all on the line and being there.
So I know you don't want to bring this up, but I'm bringing it up right now.
How do people support with all the attacks you're under fighting the globalists?
How do people support the work you're doing?
Because I know you're separate from MyPillow with your political action, but how do people do that so they can buy the pillows and then finance what you're doing?
dan friesen
Wait, I thought that MyPillow was separate from the political stuff you do, but it finances the political stuff?
That's suspicious.
mike lindell
Well, yeah, the best way is because, you know, Dominion attacked my employees too, and we've lost all our retailers, so people have really stepped up.
You could use the promo code Mike today.
Just use Mike.
And you can save up to 66% on all our products.
dan friesen
That's a lot.
This goes on a while too.
This ad is not short.
Mike has created a new bed that he plugs.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
mike lindell
Yep.
jordan holmes
I need to sue for something for Alex.
I need to sue for extreme gaslighting, for Alex insisting to me that Trump licked his wounds by exercising.
dan friesen
Yeah, he was doing sit-ups.
jordan holmes
There needs to be punitive damages for that.
Something, because you can't do that.
That's just wrong.
dan friesen
Carpe Donkdom is going to put out a compilation set to Eye of the Tiger of Trump boxing.
jordan holmes
Show me what!
dan friesen
Meat hanging in a locker.
jordan holmes
Show me an example of him working out.
One picture.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I just think this is more masculine hero worship nonsense.
jordan holmes
Totally.
That's so disgusting.
dan friesen
So I think that this next clip is one of the weirder things that I've heard happen on the show ever.
You know, there's things that are bizarre.
Ideas that are bizarre.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And then there are things that just happen that I'm like, how did that happen?
That's weird.
And this is one of those.
It's the latter thing.
It's not a weird idea.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I just don't know how this happened.
jordan holmes
Okay.
mike lindell
We're going to do what I'm going to do in, and I'm announcing on your show right now as we speak.
In July, I'm going to get a place, some big location.
unidentified
I don't care.
alex jones
Stay there.
You know about TV and radio.
I've got hard break satellites.
Stay there.
We'll come right back in a few minutes.
I want to hear this big announcement.
dan friesen
Alex almost never does that.
He runs into the breaks all the time.
Whether it's like, I will skip this break.
That used to do that.
But even multiple times on this episode, he's just in the middle of a sentence and it goes to break.
jordan holmes
That's so great.
dan friesen
Why would he interrupt Mike Lindell in the middle of the big announcement?
jordan holmes
That's the best time to interrupt somebody.
I'm going to announce people on this show.
Right now.
I'm sorry, we've got to go to break.
Shit!
dan friesen
You're breaking the flow a little bit.
I guess I do understand.
From a presentation standpoint, you would want it to be clean.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you want the full announcement all at once.
You don't want them to announce the first half and then we'll be back at break and then you announce the second half.
No, no, that makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, but not for Alex.
jordan holmes
No, not for Alex!
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Not for Alex!
dan friesen
No.
And I would assume that most professionals would know that a big announcement was about to happen on their show.
jordan holmes
If you...
If you were going to...
Also, I mean, just from a professional standpoint, as an interviewee, if you're going to make a big announcement, you should know if it's going to be broken up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
That's not good.
You ready to hear the announcement?
jordan holmes
Let's do it.
alex jones
We were going to break.
You had a big announcement.
What is the big announcement?
mike lindell
Yeah, well, this is just part of the plan.
But the big announcement is if all the cyber evidence I have, all this stuff from the day before the election, the election, the two days after all those packet, they're called packet captures, everybody.
Since I went public with that on absolutely 9-0, I got all kinds of companies from all over the United States, cyber companies that are cyber, white hat hackers, cyber companies saying, hey, we'd like to look at that and validate.
Pay us in Bitcoin.
I don't care if it's U.S. Bank Stadium.
I don't care how big it has to be.
I'm going to invite all of these white cyber experts in, and I want it televised.
All of them can be there.
The whole world can watch.
And I don't care if there's a hundred of these companies there.
Here it is, and I want them all to say on TV and everywhere, wow, there it is, 100%.
There it is, there it is.
It's like showing a royal flush in a poker game and everyone goes, does everybody see it?
Hello?
That election's coming down.
dan friesen
I'm not going to hold my breath on this event happening.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I would argue it's less like showing people a royal flush while you're playing a game of poker and more like instead of having cards, you throw a dead horse on the table.
And you're like, see?
I won!
dan friesen
Well, technically he would have something to show them, I guess.
It would be more like he's got a two.
Yeah.
The death card from a tarot deck.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
The instruction card.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Nolan Ryan's rookie baseball card.
dan friesen
And a piece of naan.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
Yeah.
Royal flush, baby!
dan friesen
Kind of looks like cards.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I would love for this to happen, though.
I do think it would be chaotic on a level that it would rival the landscaping.
The Four Seasons landscaping.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be pretty delightful.
I was just thinking, I wonder if a ransomware company, if he would even notice if his computers were locked and he can't get into his business software unless he paid $10 million in Bitcoin.
He'd be like, oh no!
And then just...
Record on his phone.
Like, he wouldn't even fucking care.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Or it would be cancel culture.
jordan holmes
Yes, it would be cancel culture.
dan friesen
So Mike's got one last little thing to say here, and this is where I was kind of getting a little bit worried that maybe Mike is a bit of a Christian zealot in the same vein as Alex.
alex jones
Everybody needs to pray.
That's the number one thing for Mike Lindell and everything he's doing.
mike lindell
Yeah, thank you, and I thank everybody for your prayers, and I believe...
I do believe that we're in the greatest revival ever.
People aren't looking for hope unless things are bad.
We get through this, it's going to be once again one nation under God, but it's the biggest revival for Jesus in history.
Everybody right now is just there praying, and our prayers are answered.
They have been answered over and over here.
Remember, God's got his hand in all of this.
This is on God's timing.
Can you imagine if this would have been flipped back in December?
You might have had a, you know...
Democrats not believing that it really got stolen.
Well, now, when the Supreme Court pulls this down, those nine Supreme Court justices are going to be heroes.
They're protecting our country from China, and whether you're a Democrat or Republican, it's going to be a united.
alex jones
No, I agree.
And as long as your message gets out, we win.
dan friesen
So, I don't know if you quite grasped what he was saying there at the end.
He was saying that, like...
If Trump had been put back in right after the election or whatever, Democrats would have been really mad.
But now, Democrats all know the election was a scam.
jordan holmes
Well, we all watched absolutely 9-0.
dan friesen
Yes.
And so now, we will...
We will carry the Supreme Court justices out of chambers on our shoulders, chanting and cheering.
jordan holmes
Thank you!
Thank you!
Three and a half more years of Trump!
Three and a half more years!
dan friesen
I think he gets time served.
jordan holmes
I disagree, sir.
dan friesen
I have to take that up with Mike.
jordan holmes
I'll take it to the Supreme Court.
dan friesen
So, Mike Lindell takes off, and Alex has another guest on for the last hour.
And it's a fellow we know.
He's a rat fucker.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
He's a merry prankster.
jordan holmes
All right.
All right.
This bastard.
dan friesen
Roger Stone is back, and he wants to talk about the good old days.
jordan holmes
Those were the days that he would like to talk about, I assume.
roger stone
There was a time when both parties just had two different governing philosophies, a more liberal philosophy, a more conservative philosophy.
On finances, on fiscal matters, on foreign policy matters.
This is no longer the case.
You have one party that is the America First Party under Donald Trump, and you have the other party that has been completely co-opted by the Chinese.
I think this is abundantly clear.
Their party will not denounce radical Islam.
Think about that.
The party of Harry Truman.
What?
jordan holmes
Why is Truman in here?
Truman has no...
What do you do with Radical Islam?
dan friesen
I don't connect with you, generally.
jordan holmes
I wasn't like...
Hey, it wasn't like Radical Islam defeats Truman is the headline he was holding up.
dan friesen
You don't know about Dewey.
Yeah, I think I...
I don't know.
I lose patience for people who make these two arguments together.
There was a time when both parties loved the country, and now we have all coalesced around a charismatic leader with an America First slogan, and then the other people...
Everybody else are co-opted by the commies.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
Yes.
It is us against them with no middle ground.
dan friesen
Yes, but oh, I miss the days when everyone just loved...
jordan holmes
We used to be able to do middle ground.
We used to be able to do middle ground all the time.
When I was working for Nixon, the main thing that we did in our administration...
Reaching out to the other aisle.
That's what we did!
dan friesen
Definitely.
jordan holmes
And when I was working with Reagan, we reached out across the aisle to destroy those unions!
That was our plan!
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
So, Roger has a belief, and that is that Trump is the greatest president since Lincoln.
unidentified
He is the greatest president since Abraham Lincoln.
alex jones
I agree.
Maybe since Washington, so let me ask you this.
What do we do then?
Because we're just sitting here watching the country destroyed, and I understand I don't want a civil war.
They're trying to start one anyways.
What do we do then?
roger stone
Well, you can go to rogerstonesplantosaveamerica.com.
unidentified
That's a long URL.
dan friesen
That's a little...
jordan holmes
That's not happening, buddy.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
You've got to trim that up.
Get a bit.ly or something.
jordan holmes
Don't have a website that requires an apostrophe.
That's all I'm saying.
dan friesen
It's too confusing for the people you're trying to target.
jordan holmes
Especially for those people.
dan friesen
Please check out my website www.rogerstone's got some wonderful ideas that will very much help this country get back on track.com.
God, I went to this website and it's just one of these Awesome things.
The people on the right do this all the time.
They're so good at this.
And that is just, it's a donation landing page.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And I have a plan that will save America.
Put in your email address and I'll send it to you.
unidentified
You got it.
dan friesen
Just try to build up an email list.
Roger's trying to get back on his hustle.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
So this is his transition back into being able to direct market to people.
Yeah.
So good on him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, great.
I bet he could get a job working for Greenwald at this point.
Working on that substack.
That might be a good way for Stone to go.
dan friesen
Greenwald and Stone.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
The new...
Well, Manafort went down, so Greenwald's the next obvious choice, right?
dan friesen
Get Atwater in there, and you got a consulting firm.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I wonder if Greenwald would know how shitty he's become if I really told him that he and Roger Stone are equal now.
unidentified
Oof.
jordan holmes
That'd be bad.
dan friesen
So, you may have some ideas about Greenwald, but Roger's got some ideas about Fauci.
Hitler.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Fauci will be remembered.
As Hitler.
jordan holmes
That sounds strange.
roger stone
I think Tony Fauci's gonna go down with Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Chairman Mao as one of the great mass murderers of all time.
And those who say, what are you talking about?
Millions of people have taken this vaccination and have had no reaction.
To which I say, yeah.
unidentified
Ah!
jordan holmes
Well, I have been roundly outsmarted, Roger Stone.
Shit.
dan friesen
I didn't think of that.
That's certainly not an argument that can't be made about everything.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
No, that one, no.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
Very dumb.
jordan holmes
How about we just apply that to literally any and all arguments with Roger Stone from now on?
Just say yet.
dan friesen
Yeah, not yet.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, they'll never kill Trump.
Not yet.
unidentified
Oh, now you've been defeated, sir.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fuck off.
dan friesen
So, one of the big things about Mike Lindell's interview was that Trump is going to be president again imminently.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
He's going to be put right back in that office.
jordan holmes
Maybe a little bit later.
dan friesen
A couple months, maybe.
jordan holmes
A couple months, Max.
dan friesen
August, maybe I'm a little bit off.
jordan holmes
A couple months.
dan friesen
You never know how long the Supreme Court is going to take with arguments, you know?
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And there's literally no protocol for reinstating a president.
jordan holmes
Nope.
I don't think we've ever done that one before.
dan friesen
So, I would think that there might be conversations that would last.
Quite a while about that.
But yeah, a couple months.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
It would have been funny if after Harding, they were like, listen, I mean, this is too soon.
We're just going to redo it.
dan friesen
So that's Mike's big thing.
Now, Roger is on right after.
Nah.
He's not into it.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Now, I should also tell you, just to give a little bit of context for this next clip, Roger, his wife, apparently, has just recently been diagnosed with cancer, and that's awful, and I hope the best for her recovery.
jordan holmes
That sucks.
dan friesen
However, Alex takes that information...
And tries to turn Roger's wife's diagnosis into a vaccine talking point.
jordan holmes
Wow!
dan friesen
And if I were Roger, I would be furious.
roger stone
Well, first of all, look, I have great respect for Mike Lindell, who's doing an extraordinary job in spending his own money, putting his money where his mouth is, trying to undercover the election fraud in all these states.
jordan holmes
Parentheses, I would never do that.
roger stone
I make the subjective judgment that even then, turning over the election will be very difficult.
I really hope to be wrong.
I hope Mike Lindell is right.
I hope the president's instinct is correct.
At the moment, I've got to be honest with you.
I'm so distracted with my wife's cancer treatments and the tsunami of contradictory medical advice that we're trying to sort through, and the millions and millions of PhDs and doctors and professionals, as well as holistic and homeopathic healers who have contacted us trying to help us.
It's heartwarming.
It really is.
But it's also...
alex jones
It is.
Hey, Roger, what do you make of so many people that get the inoculation and get cancer in a few months?
That's what all these scientists are saying it's doing.
I've got a new article out of Florida, out of Palm Beach, close to where you live.
I don't get into your own private life.
I don't know if you made this public or not.
You didn't take the vaccine, but did anybody else, you know, take the vaccine recently that just got cancer?
roger stone
Well, no, but I can tell you that a member of my family did take it, not my wife.
dan friesen
Just disgusting.
unidentified
Just absolutely disgusting.
jordan holmes
No, but I can tell you that you're a disgusting monster, that you have just decided to turn my wife's cancer diagnosis into a prop for your own bullshit, and normally I'm fine with that, but this is my fucking wife we're talking about, you asshole!
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, he's brought up on this interview a couple times, like, I wouldn't pull clips of it to discuss, because it's, you know, his private life, and, you know, that's very difficult.
jordan holmes
It's not what we do.
dan friesen
To have a loved one have a medical condition.
And I would rather make fun of his terrible positions than a legitimate tragedy and pain that he's going through.
So he's brought it up a number of times, and for Alex to now do that is so insulting.
It is so exploitative.
Because if Alex is listening to him, he has to recognize that this isn't like Roger's polonium poisoning.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
This is actually real.
dan friesen
This is real.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, here's the other hand I have for that, which is just Roger and Alex have both done this to so many people in the past where they've exploited their personal shit for their propaganda that it's like...
Hey, you live by the sword, you die by the sword.
Of course this was going to happen.
dan friesen
I guess so.
jordan holmes
You know, Roger can't feel insulted without wrestling with his own behavior.
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
You know, so I can feel insulted on his behalf because I haven't taken his wife's cancer and used it as a prop, nor have I taken anybody's cancer and used it as a prop.
dan friesen
It's just low.
It's low.
It's low.
It's a real bummer.
It's a real bummer to be sitting here and be like, I hate both of these people, but Alex is really edging out in terms of who I hate more in this interaction.
I can't imagine what it would feel like to do that.
The way Alex is doing that too, like, hey, this article is from close to where you live.
There's all these people who are getting cancer after getting the shot.
Did anybody you know?
Yep.
jordan holmes
Say it was your wife.
dan friesen
It's such a leading question kind of thing.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
Please use your wife's condition as a way to make my narratives work better for me to make money off of.
jordan holmes
You're around cancer people now.
You go to the treatments all the time, so you gotta know a bunch of people with cancer.
Tell me which ones took the vaccine, and then let's go.
dan friesen
Turn that pain into profit, man.
jordan holmes
Totally, totally.
dan friesen
And my profit, not yours, by the way.
jordan holmes
No, because nobody's gonna get to your dumb URL, you idiot.
dan friesen
Yeah, they're gonna put that apostrophe in and get lost.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly!
jordan holmes
It's never happening!
dan friesen
So we have one last clip here, and I really do think that this is so indicative of present-day Alex and why this shit's meaningless.
It's just a bad person doing a bad job.
Because, you know, at the beginning of the show, like I said, it's an hour of him just talking about how everyone's dead.
It just doesn't matter.
And here's what he says at the end of the show.
alex jones
Sometimes I start the show in the best of moods and end up in bad moods.
Sometimes I start in the bad mood and end up in the good mood.
As Rob Newman in the hall was telling me earlier, man, you're in a good mood now, you're in a bad mood throughout the show.
You know, I appreciate listeners that tune into this show because you're not looking for lies, you're looking for truth.
And the truth hurts sometimes, but we've got to admit that truth to get through the bad and make it a better world.
So I appreciate you all going through this just like I'm doing it.
And so many days at the end of the show, I've got like the most powerful stuff we had.
I haven't hit yet because I've already looked at it two or three times, and it's already got me pissed.
dan friesen
Yeah, man, the news got him pissed, so he can't cover the news, can't convey the information that is the information part of the information war.
But he can take his feelings and project them onto the audience and lash out like a little baby in a way that releases endorphins or gets him feeling better.
Remember when he was yelling about how he had a migraine and then he called the Pope the devil and he felt better?
It's just that, but with the audience.
jordan holmes
He just needs to get his emotions out.
Yeah, this is, I think, any good...
Therapist or psychologist would be able to correctly diagnose the relationship Alex has with his listeners as incredibly abusive?
dan friesen
Parasitic.
jordan holmes
I feel like...
What he just did and what we listened to of him telling me that everybody's gonna die and then him feeling better at the end of it and me being left alone with this feeling, that is domestic violence.
I feel abused.
This is fucking bullshit.
dan friesen
It is, but it's, you know, obviously it's not that bad because you and I at least know that he's full of shit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And it doesn't affect us in any way that we're taking what he says seriously.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
But, like, if you did, you would be...
dan friesen
Being taken for a ride.
Yeah.
Alex would be trying to make you feel his emotions and leave you holding the bag.
jordan holmes
Yes, totally.
dan friesen
Of the bad emotions.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And that's just not cool.
jordan holmes
I am getting my bad emotions out of me and giving them to you because you deal with them.
dan friesen
And...
That last clip gave me a little bit of a hint that maybe he's a little bit subconsciously aware that that's what he does.
jordan holmes
Could be a little bit.
dan friesen
Which is gross.
jordan holmes
And it could be that Rob Dew has told him specifically.
dan friesen
And maybe that conversation with Rob Dew is him trying to be like, Alex, you did it again.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
What a fucked up...
Jesus.
dan friesen
I listened to this episode, and there's something that's kind of like, well, that's an intense psychodrama that's going on, obviously.
And it's monumental that Mike Lindell, the MyPillow guy, is on the show.
That's not happened before.
This is a meeting of the minds.
And...
Trump's going to be president again after a 9-0...
jordan holmes
No, I still don't think that's happening.
I still don't think that's happening.
unidentified
We will see.
dan friesen
We will see.
jordan holmes
Yet.
Yet.
dan friesen
So, but, you know, looking at this, especially in juxtaposition with the 2003 stuff, like, it doesn't feel like Alex is taking his moods out in 2003.
It does not feel like he's just having a kind of lashing out at a microphone.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
dan friesen
And that's kind of why it's better.
jordan holmes
You can't, I mean, there's just no way to view our time with Alex as anything other than watching a man descend into madness, right?
Like, we're doing a...
dan friesen
It's apparently lucrative madness.
jordan holmes
I mean, we're doing a 27-year Heart of Darkness situation.
We're watching Colonel Kurtz.
That's what we're doing.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe.
jordan holmes
Oh, Mr. Kurtz, he dead.
dan friesen
And Alex is just a mess.
Anyway...
This has been our adventure on June 10th.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
We'll be back, Jordan.
jordan holmes
It has been an adventure.
It has been an adventure.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's now at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
If you could, please find a local charity or bail fund near your area to help out people doing God's work.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
Go take a nap.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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