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June 4, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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#562: May 27, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan return to look at an episode from the end of last week.  In this installment, Alex discusses "mass telekinesis," getting documents from random bikers, and the horrifying danger that "parentalism" is facing.

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alex jones
19:04
d
dan friesen
39:09
j
jordan holmes
22:27
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joe biden
00:25
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan!
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah, Jordan.
unidentified
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, honestly, is a little bit of getting back to it.
We went on a vacation and getting back to Celine, getting back to work, getting back into a little bit of...
I think one of the things that's one of the undervalued or under thought about elements of vacations are how much it makes you like...
My day-to-day life is better than I think it is.
jordan holmes
You know, I was reading Terry Pratchett while we were on vacation, and he had a really great quote that I was like...
You've never really been anywhere until you get back, you know?
And until we got back, I was like, that's kind of a silly thing to say.
And now I kind of get it.
dan friesen
Yeah, I've been on vacations before.
Granted, it's been a long time.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, it's something that I think is also easy to forget.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's something that you experience over and over again.
And every time you go on a vacation, too, your life is probably in a different circumstance than it was the last time.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But yeah, it was nice to come back and listen to this idiot again.
jordan holmes
It was good to take a break.
It really was.
And now I really want to get back to work.
dan friesen
I think there's some things that were dangling threads that did not run into any lizards.
Weirdly.
jordan holmes
No, that was difficult.
dan friesen
Had a perception in my head that there were lizards everywhere when I was a kid.
Maybe it's because I was a couple feet shorter and closer to the ground and I could just see them everywhere.
Did not catch any lizards.
Not a single one.
Got blisters on my feet the first day we were there, so I didn't shimmy up any poles.
jordan holmes
Same here.
dan friesen
My childhood home has been torn down and turned into an apartment complex.
jordan holmes
It was a little bit like Gross Point Blank.
It was a little bit like that.
At least it wasn't a convenience store.
dan friesen
No, but it was still a lovely time.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
What about you?
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
You know, I have a hard time saying anything similarly to you.
I feel like the vacation was great, but my bright spot was when we got back.
My dogs were still staying with my partner's mother.
dan friesen
Yeah, you had like a whole other day, right?
jordan holmes
A whole other day.
And they got back today.
And the first time I saw it, they went so ridiculously crazy.
I was like, how did I ever leave these beautiful things?
dan friesen
Oh, that's very cute.
jordan holmes
Oh, you know, you're like, I knew my pets loved me.
But after they've been gone for a week and they saw me again, you're like, ah, this is what it's all about, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, that's fairly similar to the experience I had with Celine, but with a lot more yelling.
jordan holmes
Well, there's...
dan friesen
She was yelling at me quite a bit.
jordan holmes
I got a few more face licks, I think.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That might be the case.
dan friesen
I got some snuggles and some aggressive headbutts eventually.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But as I was coming up the stairs with the luggage and stuff, I could just hear, bah!
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, a cat has to teach you a lesson before they can re-give you that.
dan friesen
Grumpy as hell.
But I wouldn't have it any other way.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have a difficulty ahead of us, and that is kind of like we missed a bit of time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And also, some stuff happened right when we got back.
jordan holmes
With Joe, of course.
dan friesen
That's very relevant to our business.
So, I didn't really know exactly what the strategy was going to be in terms of...
You know, do we go back and listen to all of last week?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Or what do we do?
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Pick and choose, that kind of thing.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And it's a little challenging.
And so, just spoiler alert, the Fauci emails came out.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so I was like, well, I mean, Alex is going to go buck wild on this.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But since the time we've been back, I haven't had enough time to read all of it.
It's like 3,000 pages.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
I've read quite a bit.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And so far, they're boring emails.
jordan holmes
I was thinking this.
I read a few of them and I was like, I'm just not doing this.
I'm not reading business emails, you know?
dan friesen
I've thought that to myself a whole bunch of times because most of what I've read so far is Fauci forwarding something to another person.
jordan holmes
Honestly.
dan friesen
Or it's someone sending a nonsensical email to him and him not responding.
jordan holmes
No, half the time I'm looking at him and I'm like...
The next email is going to be like, we're going to need to refill the toilet paper in the lobby.
You know, it's like that kind of level.
dan friesen
And then he forwards that to maintenance.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
dan friesen
That's why it's in the cash.
jordan holmes
All right, we get it.
He's evil or whatever, but come on, man.
dan friesen
So I haven't gotten a full enough view, and I think it would be almost impossible.
I don't know, unless you had a team reading them in chunks or whatever, to get through all 3,000 pages and the time that it would take.
jordan holmes
It's like the Snowden files, you know?
You've got multiple out...
Let's working on that.
dan friesen
So I figured that was a big priority, but at the same time, it was something that we couldn't really do yet.
So I'm hoping to be able to do some really current stuff for Monday.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
So what I did is I just threw an arrow at a dartboard, darted an arrow board, whatever.
Sure.
And May 27th, Thursday of last week, came up.
I was like, we'll do Thursday and Friday.
Thursday ended up too silly, and Friday's off the table.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
unidentified
Thursday's just a mess.
jordan holmes
The dartboard was wrong.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So here we go.
We're gonna do May 27th, 2021, Blackjack.
jordan holmes
Ah, shit.
I'm way out of practice.
dan friesen
This is gonna be interesting.
Alex is very silly.
alex jones
Let's do it.
jordan holmes
That's what I was hoping for.
I want to come back to silly.
dan friesen
Yeah, I also felt like let's not overburden ourselves with something that's gonna be...
All day.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Yeah, nobody wants to come back to the office the first day and really deal with that stack of paper that built up.
You know, you get to the top few pages.
dan friesen
It has to be taken care of eventually.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, but not today.
Half day.
Yes, exactly.
dan friesen
Or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, before we do that, let's take a little moment to say hello to one wonk and then introduce a new development on the podcast.
So, thank you so much, random dude from Germany feeling better about his national discourse.
Thanks to Alex.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Oh, thank you very much.
I suppose most of Germany.
dan friesen
So, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Yes, sir.
dan friesen
I have decided that, look, these birthday things, they're never going away.
jordan holmes
It's going to be a struggle.
dan friesen
So, I have a new drop for us.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
To introduce birthday time.
alex jones
Giving someone life is giving someone death.
You can say that.
Life is death.
dan friesen
Hey, it's time to give some happy birthday shout-outs to folks here on the podcast.
unidentified
Ha ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha ha!
jordan holmes
Dan, you never fail to impress me.
Never.
You never fail to impress me.
dan friesen
So, Josie, your birthday was on the first.
Andrew got in touch with us.
Wanted to wish you a happy birthday?
jordan holmes
I'm gonna need some time!
unidentified
I'd also like to say, happy birthday, Sean, Stalin, Stritch.
dan friesen
May your adaptus astardis bring glory to the emperor and justice to the globalists.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay, I'm back at it.
dan friesen
Also, Kit had a 30th birthday.
Basil sent me, or Basil, not entirely sure.
I do think that I have been told how to pronounce it, and I refused.
I think when people tell me how to pronounce things, I'm...
Deaf to it.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
We're Americans.
It's our God-given right to ignore British pronunciations.
dan friesen
Anyway, Basil or Basil got in touch with me and wanted me to wish Kit a happy birthday.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
dan friesen
Happy birthday, Kit.
Also, the two of them just got engaged.
jordan holmes
Oh, congratulations.
Congratulations.
dan friesen
On your nuptials.
Upcoming nuptials.
unidentified
Indeed.
dan friesen
Thrilled for you.
And then finally, coming up on the 5th, I guess that's this weekend, this Saturday.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Frank M's got a birthday.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
27th birthday.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
From what I understand.
jordan holmes
How about that?
It's almost over for you.
dan friesen
Happy birthday, Frank.
This brings us to a close of the happy birthday shoutouts.
alex jones
Giving someone life is giving someone death.
You can say that life is death.
dan friesen
Happy birthday.
jordan holmes
I have a feeling that's going to go down in the Rake Effect Hall of Fame.
Two episodes from now, we're both going to be like, ah, this is normal.
And five episodes from now, I'm going to continue losing my shit every time.
dan friesen
We'll see.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So, the 27th, Alex is in a strange mood.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
And here's another context drop to give you a little bit of a sense of it.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
jordan holmes
Did I get hired?
dan friesen
No, because that was fake.
alex jones
That's true.
That is fake.
unidentified
That is fake.
jordan holmes
I do kind of feel personally offended by that laugh.
dan friesen
That was Pillsbury Alex.
Someone was tickling him.
So, here we go.
We're going to start the show.
And this is where I actually got on the hook.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Sometimes it takes me a little while when I start up an episode for it to be like, I'm listening.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
I got on the hook immediately.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Alright, I have been brainstorming.
I'm really thinking about how I want to present my knowledge, my understanding to the public, and what the most important thing for me to do is.
And a lot of what I'm going to be covering in parts of the broadcast that you've heard before, a lot of it you're not going to have heard.
And I really just think it's important that I cut right to the chase up front here before I tell you who's coming up today and get to it all.
dan friesen
So for my ears, I hear this as Alex saying, let's cut through the bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Look, I've got to shoot straight with you.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
It's time.
Look, I'm 20 years into this.
It's finally time.
dan friesen
Some of this stuff I've said before, some of it I have not, but it will all be my hand to God's ears truth.
unidentified
Of course.
jordan holmes
All will be revealed in the fullness of time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And actually, see, you're saying that he's been on air for 20 years and he's been fucking around.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's not actually true.
jordan holmes
It sounded like it.
alex jones
Right before we went live, about five minutes before, I just got hit with a...
Extreme clarity of what I was going on air and talk about.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
From all the knowledge and information we have.
You call it a vision, but really it's like a computer program that's been working on a problem, working on a problem, and then suddenly it's completed the problem.
jordan holmes
Do computers have visions?
alex jones
Sometimes it takes longer than the computer thinks it will.
Sometimes it happens quicker.
jordan holmes
Wait, the computer thinks?
alex jones
It's like completion in the buildings, and the answer comes sliding out, and it was just a whole other level.
of exactly what they're gonna do, how they're gonna do it, how they're operating.
dan friesen
Okay, so, again, Alex has had a moment of clarity.
jordan holmes
You know, here's what I was thinking.
dan friesen
Every single day.
jordan holmes
You know what I was thinking?
I was thinking, this is the first time in a long time that we have taken some time off, and Alex hasn't.
So part of me was like, I wonder what he was thinking.
Like, I got free reign now.
I don't have to worry about shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, the parents aren't home.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Now the kids can play all they want.
dan friesen
Hey, Dan and Jordan aren't listening, so I'm going to speak freely.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
alex jones
I'm going to cut through the bullshit.
jordan holmes
Now it's time to cut through the bullshit.
dan friesen
I wouldn't think that was what was on his mind.
No, sure.
I'm sure by now, in 27 years, he's realized that recordings exist.
jordan holmes
Doesn't matter, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's just, I can't stand this asshole every single day having a vision.
jordan holmes
I've had a new vision.
I've had a new vision!
unidentified
Oh my god, it was like finally all the pieces clicked into place.
dan friesen
You can't do this every day.
jordan holmes
I do like that the computer thinks it's gonna be over sooner, but unfortunately...
The computer took a little bit longer than it was expecting.
dan friesen
Hey, man, I mean, you're joking around about that, but I have been in a situation where, let's say, I'm downloading a game off of the PlayStation Network.
jordan holmes
Sure, and it says it's 33% done.
dan friesen
It says it's going to be done in 30 minutes, then check back in, 40 minutes.
jordan holmes
40 minutes!
I mean, who knows?
dan friesen
What was that computer thinking?
jordan holmes
All of these computers...
Tell you what they're thinking and it turns out what they're thinking is wrong.
It's terrible.
You know, do robots dream of being late for work?
That's what I was thinking.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Do robots dream of excuses for tardiness?
So, here's the deal.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think this is what Alex's vision or his new bit of clarity is about.
It has to do with the globalists and their new plan.
Mic down for this, because it's absurd.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
The headline I wrote right after I sat there in my office for about a minute staring at the desk is on screen.
Transcendent transmission.
The scientific dictatorship controlling Earth is preparing to launch the great lie.
Of the greatest of lies.
And that is to obscure the great truth that is already happening.
And that is our human psyche piercing the veil and connecting in an even stronger way with God and basically mass telekinesis.
And that's what the system's trying to suppress.
dan friesen
Okay.
All right.
jordan holmes
Now that's a stinger.
That is a stinger right there.
Alright, alright, alright.
dan friesen
So the globalists are planning something in order to distract from the fact that we've connected with God and now we can move objects with our minds?
jordan holmes
Yes, correct.
Here's my problem.
Here's my problem, alright?
We live in the future.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So I know that despite him saying that the real goal is mass telekinesis...
The next day, he's going to be like, Fauci released emails.
Like, there are higher levels if you've got mass telekinesis on the way.
dan friesen
Well, I want to be clear about something, too, because I'm not an idiot.
I know that he means telepathy.
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
Of course.
jordan holmes
Of course.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He means like a...
jordan holmes
He's talking mind connections and that kind of thing.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
You can speak without speaking, so to speak.
dan friesen
Right, right.
The way he talks about how he and Trump have a telepathic connection.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's what he means, but he just says telekinesis.
unidentified
And imagining that that's what he meant is hilarious.
jordan holmes
That's like Isaac Asimov, like all of a sudden our brains just grow a little bit bigger in the right spot, and it's like, yeah, of course we can move shit with our minds.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I thought it was just misspeaking, and I know that it is, but it's consistent.
alex jones
We already have mass telekinesis.
Everybody knows it.
Every woman knows it, particularly theirs is even stronger.
And it's here.
And it's not just telekinesis with each other, obviously.
jordan holmes
Sure, obviously.
alex jones
And so the telekinesis is getting a lot stronger.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
For whatever reason, our genetic development, toxins, the environment, whatever it is, the globalists know this, they want to control it, and they want to keep the public from understanding it.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
I can't get over him saying telekinesis.
dan friesen
Like seven times?
jordan holmes
Like the fact that, like just saying the word and then saying, obviously women have it stronger.
Like, oh, that's just so good.
That's such a dumb thing to say.
dan friesen
I also like, if you take him just literally at his words, you're not giving the generosity of understanding, like, he means telepathy.
Like, it's telekinesis, but not just with each other.
Like, we can only lift each other.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
Yes, yes, of course.
dan friesen
It's so fun.
So I think what Alex is gonna get to, I think the point he's trying to make is that humans have this telepathic connection because of a connection with God, and the globalists don't like that.
They want to control it, and in order to control it, they're gonna come up with a big lie, and I think the big lie that he's going to say is aliens are gonna be revealed.
I think that's what he's...
Right.
Because he says this, and, I mean, this is just childhoods, and this is really just the book that he read when he was a child.
alex jones
Oh, boy.
The different great lies that they're going to launch is going to be alien transmissions first.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Aliens are going to be communicating with the Earth.
You'll be told these are aliens.
And then, oh, we already had contact, and they gave us technology, and that's really where all this came from.
And all the upheaval and the Pope will endorse it and say, that's our God and this is our group and this is what they want us to do.
And then, oh, there's all these new technologies where you can cure cancer and cure all these things.
You've just got to accept and do what these entities want.
Who aren't ready to reveal themselves yet.
dan friesen
That's just the plot of Childhood Zone.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's basically it.
dan friesen
The aliens that come down say that we can't reveal ourselves for 50 years until you're used to us being here because they look like our conception of demons.
unidentified
This is just an Arthur C. Clarke book.
jordan holmes
No, the only person who can break through the illusion is obviously Rowdy Roddy Piper.
You know, naturally.
That's the way it's gotta go.
dan friesen
Or our generation's Rowdy Roddy Piper.
Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Yes, of course.
dan friesen
Yes, yes.
So the aliens are going to come down.
They're going to give the Pope all these messages, and they're not going to reveal themselves because they didn't in the book.
jordan holmes
Is the Pope still in jail in this scenario?
Is that a tough question?
I feel like I stumped you.
dan friesen
I flummoxed, yes.
To be fair, I don't know if Alex is talking to Steve.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Okay, that's fair.
That's not a problem for him at this point.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So the plan is then, once the Pope is doing all this stuff and telling people they have to listen to the aliens in order to get this technology or something, then there's a threat.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
All these wonders will be this leader who is able to talk to them, and if you just do what he says, well then, everything's going to be okay.
And then we'll learn that this is just one of the scenarios they've got.
So they can play different ones at different times or all at once that there's bad aliens coming and we've got to do some certain things.
To stop them!
dan friesen
So there's bad aliens that are going to be killing.
jordan holmes
Say mantis being or shut the fuck up.
That's what I have to say.
If you say bad aliens, you say fucking non-Pleiadians.
I'm not fucking around with just alien anymore.
dan friesen
What kind of animal do they look like?
jordan holmes
Exactly!
Are these the mercantile dogs?
What are we talking about?
dan friesen
I need some specificity in order for this to be any fun.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
We've been too far past the aliens are fun.
dan friesen
I've seen people do this better.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Exactly.
dan friesen
Also, I thought the plan was plan B, and they were just going to give a super bioweapon in order to kill everyone off.
Why do they need to do this?
jordan holmes
Now, it's all about theater, Dan.
It's about pageantry.
You know, give people a show.
It's bread and circus, man.
That's what it's about.
Then you blow them up.
dan friesen
If the globalists have a plan that was directed to them by the devil that involves a super bioweapon release that'll kill off the population, why do they need to fake an alien landing to get people to do things?
jordan holmes
I think we're living in a...
Galactic make-a-wish scenario.
We're all about to die, so aliens are trying to give us a good run before we go!
dan friesen
It makes as much sense as anything Alex is saying.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
dan friesen
I don't know.
It does not make sense.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So I guess that's the big revelation that Alex had, because that's what he starts the first segment off with.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
And then he has some other really big news that he undersells.
unidentified
Okay.
This is huge news.
alex jones
Frankenstein!
The archetype of the mad scientist chopping different pieces of humans together and running high-powered electricity through it and reanimating a corpse.
Well, now they're actually able to do things very, very similar to that in the real world so many times.
What humans envisioned hundreds and even thousands of years ago, we are now able to build.
And we're able to build it on a mass scale.
But great power comes with all of that.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we've conquered death.
jordan holmes
Well, only a little bit.
See, what has to happen is you have to play music, and then the body will be kind of amulatory in a little dancey way towards the source of that music.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
This is a Weekend at Bernie's 2 scenario.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Weekend at Bernie's 1, we're past that.
Weekend at Bernie's is really kind of like the evolution of human technology towards death.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I...
Dread Alex seeing that movie and thinking it's a documentary.
Maybe he has.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it seems a little bit like it.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Frankenstein is real cool.
I don't know where the bottom is in terms of like...
Like, there's just things that I can say as a joke that he thinks.
No, he does actually.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
He actually is suggesting these things.
jordan holmes
I mean, he's going through the Universal Monsters kind of area, you know?
We've already got Draculas, right?
We've already got Frankensteins.
I think mummies are next.
dan friesen
He's just trying to create the Monster Mash.
He's just trying to convince people that that Graveyard Smash is real.
jordan holmes
It's the Monster Mash!
Plan B!
Everyone dies!
dan friesen
That's the monster...
There was the Monster Swim was the second one.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
That Boris Pickett made.
jordan holmes
I believe Black Tuesday is called the Monster Stock Market Crash.
Stock Market...
Ah, damn it!
I blew it!
dan friesen
There was a...
Yeah, so he had a follow-up called the Monster Swim.
jordan holmes
Yes, that's true.
dan friesen
And then...
Years later, he had the climate mash.
jordan holmes
I think he had the birthday mash.
I think he went hard.
dan friesen
He did a bunch.
None of them worked out except for the monster mash.
jordan holmes
It is a little bit like if Sisko had done just various colors of the thong song, like black thong to thong thong thong, and then just released one next month.
dan friesen
Or a song about a negligee.
jordan holmes
Yes!
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Different items of underwear.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
I could see him doing that.
I watched that Making of the Song video on YouTube.
There's a documentary series about these hits and how they came to be.
And I saw the one about Sisko's The Dog Song.
And I could see him making a series of songs about different undergarments.
jordan holmes
Why not?
Why not?
Everything else he's tried hasn't worked.
Give it a go.
dan friesen
So Alex is a little bit bent out of shape about stem cells.
alex jones
It's like paint by numbers.
You ever see those?
You buy at the art store for like five bucks, and it's got the little ink or markers that come with it.
You just fill in the little numbers like it says, then you finally see the big picture.
And so I've just been here on air for 27 years, researching for more than 30. And I just started painting by the numbers, looking at what they were really doing.
And I really learned that when you got to white paper levels and international discussions, That you'll hear a headline about, oh, stem cells.
A stem cell means a 150-pound humanoid human chimpanzee clone.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound true.
But I could be wrong.
alex jones
That's a stem cell.
dan friesen
That's a stem cell, man.
jordan holmes
I just don't think so.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Sometimes he doesn't paint by the numbers and gets a green unicorn.
Yeah, it's pretty.
dan friesen
Yeah, see, that's the thing about paint by numbers.
unidentified
You gotta follow the rules, or else you come up with the wrong picture.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Why does this just look like brown?
unidentified
Aww.
dan friesen
Yeah, paint by numbers is ostensibly creative, but it's also the least creative thing in the world.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because they're...
If you want the actual picture...
jordan holmes
It's already there!
dan friesen
Yeah, there's numbers.
jordan holmes
No, it's...
In the abstract, it exists without you.
You can just imagine that those colors are already there.
You're supposed to.
dan friesen
Also, if you're an adult, you can usually tell what the picture is even without coloring it in.
jordan holmes
That's true.
You've been there before.
dan friesen
Yes.
So anyway, chimpanzee humans, 150 pounds in a cage, has a stem cell.
And this is important because there was just that bill that went through Congress.
It failed to pass.
alex jones
And they go on to say, rules on stem cells.
And stem cells are defined as anything that comes from a baby, or you can say stem cells are in fat tissue and other things like that.
But the point is, we're having a debate about stem cells, and what we're talking about is growing humans or humanoids in labs.
That's the definition here.
And they admit it all right here, and then it gets better.
There's video of this.
Here's the article.
48 to 49, Senate defeats Braun Republican Indiana amendment.
To prohibit certain types of human-animal chimeras, 60 votes were needed, but it didn't pass.
So, did you hear that?
It's legal right now to create human-animal hybrids because there's laws against human.
Close.
dan friesen
So there's two things that are going on that Alex is kind of playing with and conflating in this episode when he's talking about this.
There's one is the bill that got defeated in the Senate.
That was an attempt by the GOP to criminalize genetic research that involved creating embryos that were chimeric.
And from what I understand, a good thing that did not pass.
Because it seems like it was a little bit of a Trojan horsey kind of situation.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it was an excuse to just something about abortion.
It always goes back to that.
dan friesen
Also, so the other thing that he's conflating this with is a recent move that was made by the International Society for Stem Cell Research.
They loosened their rules about how long a human embryo can be used in experiments.
Previously, they had a standard policy that studies that went beyond 14 days would absolutely not be done.
But now, reflecting advances in technology, they say that these experiments could possibly be done, to quote Stat News, quote, Only if lots of conditions are met first.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
We're not going to suddenly have horse people drawing our cars around.
We're going to be fine.
dan friesen
So yeah, there's this...
Alex is freaking out about these chimeras and what have you.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And it leads him to go to break.
Pretty extreme.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Pretty extreme.
alex jones
They're figuring out how to lock you down, how to train you to behave, so they can kill everybody.
Everybody stay in your houses while that happens.
While combat robots go up and down the streets.
And so, this isn't something that they're just thinking about doing.
This is all set up very, very soon.
You and your family will be killed soon.
Two years, five years.
I don't know.
The timeline's moving quick.
But if we don't hold them back, everyone listening is dead.
Okay?
They're going to kill you.
They're going to kill me.
They're going to kill everybody.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
jordan holmes
Eesh.
dan friesen
That's a bummer.
jordan holmes
That's bad.
That's bad, but to a certain extent, you know, we live in kind of a fairly mundane world to suddenly go from that to like...
Oh, there's robots in the streets and chimeras in my home?
I think that would be at least a little bit more exciting.
dan friesen
Four days ago, I was having a fun hot dog and on Sans Souci Beach.
unidentified
Yep, yep.
I come back and I gotta hear Alex say that everyone's dead.
dan friesen
Everyone's dead.
It's a jarring...
jordan holmes
It's a bit of whiplash.
You doing alright?
dan friesen
Yeah, because I think this is stupid.
jordan holmes
I do see your neck perpetually at a 45 degree angle right now, so that might be trouble.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's...
You know, there's that standard thing about, like, you know, if you just keep moving, it's not hard to keep moving.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But when you stop, then you start moving again.
It's like, what?
unidentified
Whoa!
jordan holmes
Object at rest!
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I do think that Alex is obviously full of shit and everything.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But it is a little bit...
It's a little bit anew.
unidentified
Yeah, no.
dan friesen
After a week of not listening to him to come back and hear, like, you and your family, everybody listening to this show will be dead within five years.
If we don't stop my enemies.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I saw...
dan friesen
It's comically overt.
It's like, when I take time off, I start to doubt myself.
I start to doubt these like...
Alex isn't as crazy as I think he is.
jordan holmes
It can't be real.
It cannot be real.
dan friesen
It's not like he says within two to five years everyone listening will be dead.
Yeah.
That's exactly what he does.
jordan holmes
No, it makes you realize how...
I totally get...
When you've been doing this non-stop for a long time, you forget how real people react to this kind of stuff.
Where they're like, you're the one who's a conspiracy theorist.
There's no way that anyone would get away with that.
And then you come back and you're like, I'm a conspiracy theorist!
This can't be real!
This can't be real!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, um, hmm.
How do we discuss this next clip?
Let's see.
Um, the globalists, right?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
They have a plan.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Heard it.
dan friesen
They have a lot of plans.
jordan holmes
At least two.
dan friesen
Apparently, super bioweapon kill-off.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Maybe that's plan A and B. Plan C involves aliens coming down and not revealing themselves, speaking through the Pope, then telling us that there's bad aliens that are coming and we've got to do something in order to stop the bad aliens that will be counterproductive to us.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Who knows?
Turns out there's a plan D. Oh, no.
And that is that they're going to replace us with computers.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's nice.
alex jones
But, I mean, it's really very simple.
What humans can envision...
We can end up building.
And what we've gotten to at this point is free energy, massive life extension, supercomputers way more powerful than what you're currently even aware exist.
And the decisions have been made to basically go ahead and go operational with a system that will make us obsolete.
Obsolete in their words.
These computers won't recognize beauty.
These computers won't have our ancient history.
These computers didn't create the computers like we did.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
But there is a dark anti-human force pushing this.
And by the way, I could have opened the whole show up and just made this very, very simple.
unidentified
Very simple.
alex jones
And that's, we're being replaced.
dan friesen
I know that Alex is talking about robots, but still, when I hear somebody who has the politics that Alex has worrying about, we are going to be replaced, it kind of, you know, it exists in a certain linguistic space.
It's something that isn't without baggage.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, the way he's talking is like a person in the early 80s who was like, computers are the devil!
You know, computers are going to...
unidentified
The soul, the devil's mark.
jordan holmes
But we don't live there.
He uses computers all the time.
He lives in a world where computers are perfectly fine and people are evil.
Or the people he wants to tell you are evil.
dan friesen
Computers are ethically neutral.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
I just get a little worried.
Fears of replacement are generally not...
They're not good openings.
What comes after that is usually bad.
jordan holmes
It's a little bit like the space racism we deal with, where it's like, oh, they're evil cat beings, but you're like, that's code for something else.
The Great Replacement Theory, you can't just be like...
Nah, nah, nah, nah.
It's computers that we're worried about and not having to be like, is this Jews again?
I feel like this is Jews again, you know?
dan friesen
And I know that Alex doesn't really care that much about workers' rights, so it couldn't really be a conversation about automation in the workplace.
jordan holmes
No, it's not like we need more grocery people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
It's a word that I don't like hearing.
So we have one more thing here about the globalists.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And the globalist argument is, if you don't resist this under survival of the fittest and social Darwinism, you deserve what happens to you.
And so, it's all about humans being a commodity.
Mass smuggling of children for sex abuse, for slave labor.
But really, it's about committing crimes in God's eyes, having you do nothing, So that the spiritual hedge of protection can be removed from us so that everyone can be attacked.
And so this is very sophisticated interdimensional galactic warfare.
And that's what you face.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
Tough, tough to wrestle with that.
jordan holmes
Is it?
dan friesen
No.
It's not.
jordan holmes
He's so confident.
I feel like I need to ask.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That's part of the trick.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
Yeah, so the first thought that he has there is that the globalists believe if you don't fight, you deserve what happens to you.
That's essentially just something he cribbed from Silent Weapons from Quiet Wars, which is the first chapter in Bill Cooper's book, Behold a Pale Horse, that the globalists believe you're meat on the plate.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Sheep are meant to be slaughtered.
dan friesen
Yes, that kind of thing.
And then the second part is just that if you don't defend, God's law, then you make us all susceptible to God's punishment.
jordan holmes
Correct.
dan friesen
Which the only thing that could really lead towards is a theocracy, right?
It has to.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Civilization that's designed entirely around adherence to strict religious rule.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know.
dan friesen
That's not good.
jordan holmes
The ones that are, you know, the religious rules are really great when they're in power and allowed to kind of go unchecked.
Everybody knows that from history.
dan friesen
I just hear nonsense here.
unidentified
Also...
jordan holmes
Was the interdimensional galactic warfare part a little bit nonsense?
Or was that the part where you're like, well, we don't need to worry about that.
Obviously, that's true.
dan friesen
I mean, that's the closest to, like, I'll let it slide.
It's arguably hyperbole.
You know, it's like...
Sure.
I mean, I know he's not speaking metaphorically, but you could hear that and be like, eh, whatever.
The other stuff is just, like, contextually weird.
Yeah.
If Alex believes that doing things that are against his religious rules make everybody susceptible to God's wrath because God removes the hedge of protection, then the only way to keep everyone safe is to make sure that everyone is forcibly adhering to God's rule.
according to his version of God.
Right.
unidentified
And to me, I find that to be an incredibly fucked up way to conceive of how society should be organized.
jordan holmes
I mean, the ironic part about it, I think, is something similar in practice is what we all tried to do to defeat a disease, to a certain extent.
Do you know what I mean?
We have to allow a certain amount of like, oh, we are locking down in order to keep, if in everybody's interest, then the susceptibility of that disease is spread throughout everybody.
So he's fine with the tactics of...
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
I think your thought is interesting, and I do see a little bit of a parallel.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying it's one-to-one, of course.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think what I think is most interesting about Alex's conception is the divine wrath.
jordan holmes
Yes, as opposed to the genomic wrath.
dan friesen
The actual causally determinative chain of events.
jordan holmes
The obvious wrath, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't feel like it's possible for Alex to contain this kind of thinking and this idea set and also actually believe in the First Amendment.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
How could you possibly believe in freedom of religion if you believe that breaking God's rules Makes the hedge of protection go away.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
I mean, one of the commandments is you should have no other god than me.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You're breaking a commandment if you follow another religion or you don't follow a religion.
jordan holmes
Totally.
I mean, how could you believe in freedom of speech if the government has to, I guess, murder you for taking the Lord's name in vain?
You know what I'm saying?
The penalty for sin is death, obviously.
dan friesen
It would be a challenge.
Certainly.
To believe in a republic?
jordan holmes
It would take some work.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think we're seeing a little bit of some flaws.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex has a guest, and I just think this is hilarious.
We're not going to talk about him at all, but I think it's really hilarious that this dude is showing up after the beginning of this bullshit and still expecting to be taken seriously.
alex jones
All right, we are back live, ladies and gentlemen, and James O 'Keefe is just getting into the studio, put the sports jacket on, I think.
We're going to get him here on in a moment.
Really big breaking news.
But please don't forget that it's listeners and viewers like you that make this broadcast possible, and all the incredible breaking news that we bring out is just critical to all of our futures and the future of our species and all our children.
So I thank you for your support.
We have a big Memorial Day special to honor the veterans and folks that have served.
dan friesen
So yeah, we got James O 'Keefe coming up.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
James, would you like to talk about how Frankenstein is real?
jordan holmes
Yeah, actually...
dan friesen
Hey, James, you're a real serious reporter.
Let's talk about mass telekinesis.
jordan holmes
He did an undercover sting operation inside of Frankenstein's castle, actually.
dan friesen
You know what's ironic?
He could actually do an amazing sting operation on Alex.
jordan holmes
Yes, he really could!
Well, he could.
If he just brought a hidden camera into a regular conversation with Alex, he would get everything.
dan friesen
Perfectly situated to sting the shit out of Alex.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
God damn it.
Somebody, he can be turned, right?
He can be turned from the dark side.
It's just a matter of money.
Yeah, right?
Just give him two billion and he'll be like, yeah, I'll fucking kill Alex Jones's career.
I don't care.
dan friesen
God, I wish that would happen.
That would be interesting at least.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we gotta get a billionaire on our side to just throw money at fake people.
dan friesen
The further irony, though, is that if he did sting Alex, I don't think I would believe it.
unidentified
I couldn't trust it, because it's still coming from him.
jordan holmes
Ah, the dangers of lost credibility.
dan friesen
Yep.
So I don't care.
James O 'Keefe has a, I guess, another Facebook story.
I don't care.
jordan holmes
Whatever.
dan friesen
One of the reasons I don't care is because Alex has an interesting story to tell.
alex jones
They've gone from this all being...
In white papers and textbooks and, you know, very low-circulation books that these, you know, Zbigniew Brzezinski and people like Klaus Schwab would write in the past and John P. Holdren and...
dan friesen
Real quick, John P. Holdren's book, Ecoscience, wasn't a low-circulation book.
It was a textbook.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
It wasn't a mass-market paperback that failed.
dan friesen
It wasn't like a flop.
Barnes& Noble tried to push Holden to go to science.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
alex jones
The rest of them, David Rockefeller, Club of Rome documents, secret documents.
I was given a whole bunch of archive secret documents out of the Bilderberg group, out of the Senate archives.
I pulled up the motorcycle in Virginia when I was covering Bilderberg there and just said, here, have this.
And it was all how in the 60s, the Bilderberg group, Took over the U.S. unions for the de-industrialization project and explaining why they were going to de-industrialize the U.S. And we published them on InfoWars and no one even cared.
dan friesen
Probably because you got them from a random guy on a motorcycle.
jordan holmes
So, a random guy on a motorcycle handed me papers and people don't believe me.
It's basically Deep Throat, isn't it?
You meet in a parking garage or a random dude on a motorcycle drives up towards you.
dan friesen
No big deal.
jordan holmes
It's like the Yakuza dropped off some papers.
dan friesen
I think that this is probably just like John Birch Society-esque literature and ideas.
Sure.
Because it's talking about infiltrating the unions, obviously.
There's workers.
Ideas of unionization are something that are antithetical to the patriot movement.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so you might as well say that there's no point in unionization because it's also owned by, or it's infiltrated.
dan friesen
Not only infiltrated, it's a plot in order to destroy America.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
So, I just love the idea of Alex sitting there and some guy on a motorcycle comes up and he's like, I've got all the archives of the Secret Globe!
jordan holmes
So, he's just standing there in this circumstance?
dan friesen
He's in Chantilly, Virginia, because I remember when he went there.
jordan holmes
I do, yeah.
dan friesen
Also, I don't know.
I mean, I've watched the video of him down there.
It's certainly a lot of the video that is in one of his documentaries, I think.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
Is it Endgame?
I'm not sure.
I've definitely seen the video of him in Chantilly.
I don't remember a guy on a motorcycle coming up and giving him an archive of secret globalist Bilderberg documents.
I don't remember him going back to his hotel room and freaking out that some guy on a motorcycle gave him an archive.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
Now, we're both imagining this.
How is he holding these...
Documents.
Does he have a briefcase that's like handcuffed to his wrist and he has to go through a process to give it to him?
Is he just wearing a messenger bag and he's like, ah, here you go!
Is it like in Ocean's 12 or whatever where the, you know?
dan friesen
I'm guessing it was Daniel Estelin on a motorcycle and they just gave him his stupid book.
Yeah.
So there's big news on the white supremacy front and that is that Alex has found a triangle.
alex jones
And, I mean, it's super interesting to have the overt white supremacy, socially unacceptable stuff written up by the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ADL, now being taught in more than 20 states.
This particular one is from Maryland and Virginia.
And it says fathers are a form of covert white supremacy.
It says parental.
Parental.
Just parental.
Right here it says parental.
I'm going to cover that later.
Here, just zoom in over here, guys.
Right here's the zoom-in area.
dan friesen
So what he's got is a triangle, and it has, like, at the top, there is a line.
So there's a smaller triangle and then the bottom of the triangle.
Smaller triangle is the unacceptable white supremacy, and it's things like the Klan, lynchings, stuff like that.
And then underneath is the more subtle...
Insidious.
It's that iceberg metaphor.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Underneath is the sort of covert forms of white supremacy.
And Alex thinks that fathers are one of them.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
However, I went and I watched the video because I can't find this triangle anywhere else.
And I'm like, I gotta go find him.
And I looked at it and it turns out Alex just doesn't know how to read.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
He thinks it says parental.
It says paternalism.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Okay.
dan friesen
Merriam-Webster defines paternalism as, quote, a system under which an authority undertakes to supply needs or regulate conduct of those under its control and manners affecting them as individuals as well in their relations to authority and to each other.
Paternalism is essentially believing that you can restrict another person or group's actions because you understand their own good better than them.
Alex has no idea about the words, let alone concepts, he's covering.
He's taking a piece of paper that claims that paternalistic attitudes contribute to covert white supremacy, and the way he reports it is that the SPLC and ADL are saying that having fathers is white supremacist.
This guy's a fucking idiot.
jordan holmes
That's a jump.
That is a bit of a jump.
dan friesen
But I honestly don't think he knows that it doesn't say parental.
jordan holmes
That would be most likely, I would say.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It feels like he misread that, got mad about it, and whether or not he's realized he's wrong, it's too good for him not to be mad about it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
It's embarrassing as hell.
jordan holmes
No, once he got what he wanted, I'm sure he never read it again.
Yeah, it's not like he was like, wait, I gotta double check this.
That's never happened.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, and parentalism, whatever that is, is under attack.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
And you're like, well, that sounds crazy.
Well, no, it's not crazy.
Rid of who would protect the family.
Parentalism.
I mean, parentalism isn't just supporting a father.
jordan holmes
You can't keep saying it.
alex jones
It's supporting parents.
jordan holmes
You can't keep saying it.
alex jones
Parentalism is believing in the nuclear family.
jordan holmes
You can't invent this.
alex jones
And it says that's racist.
jordan holmes
That's not real!
dan friesen
I'm not sure that parentalism is a widespread concept.
jordan holmes
I was thinking that he could have misspoken, but still understood the word.
You know, like telekinesis, when it was like, he's using the wrong word, he means telepathy.
And then he went further.
dan friesen
And said parentalism.
jordan holmes
And he said parentalism?
And it's about parents, so we know for a fact he does not understand what was being said.
dan friesen
No, but I still think it could be an instance of him misreading the word and then never checking again.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Either way, it's embarrassing.
It's pretty funny, but it is also like...
I'm glad you brought that up, because it is so different than the other misuse of the word.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Like, the telekinesis thing is just funny.
It's like, okay, I get you mean telepathy.
jordan holmes
With telekinesis...
dan friesen
Alice is creating parentalism as a thing to be mad about.
jordan holmes
Out of whole cloth.
dan friesen
That may or may not be an actual word.
I mean, I could find some uses of it online, but it's definitely not like...
A word people use.
jordan holmes
No, it's not.
You don't find it cited in psychiatry papers.
dan friesen
Covert white supremacy would not have that as one of the things.
Parentalistic attitudes, though.
I mean...
Oh, no.
I did the Alex.
Paternalistic.
jordan holmes
Yes.
I stopped and my eyes went wide.
I was like, what's going to happen now?
dan friesen
Oh, no.
Alex got into my head.
So most of the middle of the show, middle to end of the show, is about Alex.
Well, not most of it, but a good chunk is about Alex talking about Joe Biden, the president.
Apparently he's blaming the victims of the Tuskegee experiments.
For black vaccine hesitancy.
jordan holmes
He's blaming the victims.
dan friesen
Well, that's what Alex says.
jordan holmes
Okay, I have a hard time believing that, but let's continue.
dan friesen
Well, here is Alex talking about it, and then the clip of Biden that's used to rationalize this.
alex jones
Giving a speech today, Joe Biden blames black vaccine hesitancy on Tuskegee Airmen, the first blacks since the Civil War allowed in combat who did an excellent job.
So he blamed black men, some of which had their families injected with cephalus that came out and killed or tortured over long periods of time.
It's very painful.
Millions were allowed to be infected overall by the tens of thousands that were injected.
It wasn't just blacks that got it.
It was everybody.
And Joe Biden now blames them, the victims, for what happened.
You say, well, he's an old man.
Yeah, he should be at a nursing home, not molesting children, not molesting our country anymore.
So here he is blaming...
The very blacks from Alabama, many of them were from there, ski airmen, who were victimized with a secret government experiment telling them it was a vaccine for polio when it was syphilis, now blaming them for what they did to them.
So even the demon in him just lies so much he can't stop.
Here it is.
joe biden
I asked one person to do nothing but deal with equity.
Equity.
to make sure that we were reaching out into minority communities, which, by the way, and many of the older members of that community had memories of experimentation on black Americans that were not told about, like what happened to the Tuskegee Airmen and all those tests.
unidentified
*coughs*
alex jones
I shouldn't laugh, it's just so sick.
Yeah, the Tuskegee Airmen.
Like when their souls were leaving their bodies when they died, like Casper the Friendly Ghost.
They were sure flying high up, you killed them, huh?
dan friesen
So what happened is that Biden kind of misspoke and he said Tuskegee Airmen, which were the group of black fighter pilots in World War II, when he was referencing the Tuskegee experiments.
This is an unfortunate gaffe, and if Alex's point here was that Biden doesn't know the difference between the two uses of the word Tuskegee, I'd say that's probably a stretch, but whatever.
I don't really care.
Using this clip to argue that Biden is blaming the victims of the experiment for vaccine hesitancy, though, that's absurd.
That's nonsense.
I was listening to this clip.
That doesn't say anything close to what Alex is suggesting.
It's very clear.
What Biden is saying is that the memory of this, this stain on American history, this shame is what would contribute to people being hesitant to trust rollouts of large vaccine programs.
That thought is...
It makes sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's what he's expressing.
jordan holmes
No.
Alex is not missing the point.
He is, like, cutting the point's Achilles tendons and then burying it alive in the backyard.
unidentified
Like, this is way, way out of control.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, a little bit later, Alex makes the exact same mistake by...
alex jones
Sure.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
Well, that's that...
What's the name of that major rap group?
I listened to him in the 80s.
But I told my wife that this rap group had done these pro vaccines.
She didn't believe it until she saw it.
Who are they?
What's the name of the rap group?
I forget it.
Super famous.
Run DMC.
They've got a new one where it shows Tuskegee Airmen, or Tuskegee folks, and says, yeah, we injected you, but we don't do that anymore.
We don't do experiments anymore.
When it is an experiment!
dan friesen
I mean, Alex did the exact same slip that Biden did.
It's an easy mistake to make.
jordan holmes
It's unacceptable in one circumstance, and if you do it, like, oh, no, no, no, it was a mistake.
He was blaming them, and I made a mistake.
dan friesen
It's just a stupid game.
So Rand Paul, he's made some disparaging comments about Fauci at this point.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so Alex believes that he's going head-to-head.
With the enemy.
And maybe that means that he should be president.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Which Alex had a chance to support in 2016.
jordan holmes
And failed.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
alex jones
This is Rand Paul who deserves a lot of support and a lot of prayers.
He's going directly at the enemy.
It's why he's getting death threats.
It's why he's been shot at.
It's why he's been physically attacked twice.
It's why he's had his ribs broken, his lungs punctured.
dan friesen
That was a lawn argument.
alex jones
A lawn stuff because he's a good guy.
And he has a good heart.
Very presidential material.
I'd like to see him president in the future.
Maybe him and DeSantis make a nice mix.
But I don't care if there were two black guys or two women.
I don't give a damn.
If there were two black women like those guys, I'd be all for them.
Vote for them in one second.
But yeah, they're two white males.
I mean, who else is there, folks?
I don't give a damn about them being white.
But the point is, is that, you know, Bolsonaro's white.
He's fighting the world order.
I mean, I'm just saying.
Get some black folks running for office, talking like them.
I'll vote for them.
But I can't believe we even have to have a discussion about that.
About who cares what color somebody is about getting the job done.
But I digress.
dan friesen
You do digress.
That is true.
jordan holmes
You can't believe that we have that conversation?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You're the one who brought it up!
dan friesen
Yeah, I certainly didn't.
jordan holmes
I wasn't like, I wonder if Bolsonaro's white.
I didn't think that.
I wasn't like, that's a question I need him to answer before he finishes this sentence.
unidentified
I did.
dan friesen
That was not on the top of my mind.
jordan holmes
It wasn't there.
dan friesen
And it certainly wasn't also my first response that I would have to the idea of a Rand Paul DeSantis ticket.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
My primary complaint with them would not be, it's two white dudes.
jordan holmes
There's two white dudes.
That's a big, yeah.
dan friesen
I feel like there would be some policies that I would be really offended by.
First.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All I hear is Alex being like, baby, come back.
unidentified
You can blame it all on me.
dan friesen
That's all I hear.
It's...
Oh, to Rand?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Man, it's...
Having gone through that, the disenchantment period with Rand Paul during the lead-up to the 2016 election, it's pretty funny to hear him say stuff like this, because he knows...
He blew it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
There's just...
unidentified
He got off the Paul boat.
jordan holmes
I wish I could stop being at least a little bit surprised at how Craven, you know?
No matter how Craven I see them, I'm still like, you're that Craven?
Oh, man!
dan friesen
Well, in a week, he's going to pretend that he didn't say that there's a fake alien invasion that's coming, and they're going to not be able to reveal themselves, and then they're going to tell us eventually bad aliens are coming.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
How can I be surprised?
How can I be surprised?
dan friesen
He expected you to not remember that a week ago he had a big revelation right before he got on air.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
He's got a lot of revelations, though.
I think you just expect him to have...
dan friesen
This is Jangling Keys, the radio show.
It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
That'd be a more fun radio show to listen to.
dan friesen
Certainly.
Less ads.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, he said a lot of extreme stuff on this episode.
Some of it not as hateful as usual.
Some of it just kind of dumb.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But you should know this.
alex jones
We discredit these guys.
We send them to prison, or they're going to kill everybody.
It's us or them, okay?
Seriously.
I mean, every damn word I'm saying.
Stay with us.
dan friesen
It means everything.
It means everything.
jordan holmes
Of course.
Of course.
dan friesen
So earlier in the show, Alex had said that it's going to be open phones in the third and fourth hour.
He's getting really pumped for it.
jordan holmes
Can I guess how many calls he takes?
dan friesen
Yes, I'd love that.
jordan holmes
Three.
dan friesen
Zero.
jordan holmes
Oh, damn it!
I was really going out on a limb going more than zero.
I kind of expected zero, but I was really hoping.
dan friesen
I feel like whenever you take that bet, it should be zero or the field.
Yes, exactly.
jordan holmes
The over-under is one.
dan friesen
Is.5.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he takes none, and apparently he couldn't have taken open phones in the fourth hour, because initially he had Matt Bracken scheduled to host the fourth hour.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
But apparently there were problems.
alex jones
Matt Bracken had some technical difficulties today.
He does a great job when he hosts Thursday's fourth hour, and he can't do it.
So Owen Troyer's coming in in the fourth hour because I've got a bunch of things I'm working on.
I want to host the fourth hour, but I've got big stories we're working on that are huge, very important, behind the scenes, and I'm going to leave it at that.
I'm going to leave it at that.
dan friesen
He had to go to family court.
Yeah.
unidentified
He's going fishing with my daughter.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is the night, I believe, that his ex-wife was trying to live stream a court appearance.
On YouTube.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
Because, as I understand, her argument is that these are supposed to be open hearings.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And people should know what's going on.
And so I would assume that that's more what was on Alex's mind than a big story.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He had this court date that was possibly going to be live streamed.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be somewhat, I think, terrifying for him.
dan friesen
Yeah, I would think so.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But look.
That's, even at this point in the show, that's in the future.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
We have to worry about the now.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because now, it's time to cover news.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
How to hit all this.
I got a bunch of other huge COVID news as well.
And some really scary stuff that makes me really mad.
And also, the abomination stuff, all this cloning.
Because our cells are designed, and the ancients said this, but now they've mathematically, scientifically proven it, to resonate with the universe that God made.
Like, we're a musical instrument.
And the atmosphere is a musical instrument, and trees are a musical instrument.
It's the best way to describe it, but energetically, through the dimensions, it's like a sound wave, is the easiest way to describe it.
It's not what it is, but with our limited senses, it's like trying to teach Helen Keller how to...
Read, write, and talk when she couldn't hear and couldn't see, but she finally could figure it out because it was innately in her.
The archetypes were there.
She ended up being a very passionate, very well-spoken person through communication.
jordan holmes
Wild.
alex jones
But it only took years to get through to her, but it was there.
And so trying to describe this in third-dimensional terms is, let's just say, it's limiting.
dan friesen
Trying to describe what?
jordan holmes
You know what's weird?
I just don't know how it is he could really somehow be offensive towards Helen Keller.
Helen Keller didn't do any work.
It's that the people broke through her defenses in order to get to what was already there inside.
dan friesen
She had to do some work, too.
Don't minimize that.
jordan holmes
No, that's what he's saying.
You know what I'm saying?
You're being offensive to her efforts that she redoubled.
unidentified
Somehow, out of nowhere, you're offensive to Helen Keller.
dan friesen
It seems like a stray thought.
A little bit.
And I would guess that the people who worked with Helen Keller wouldn't say, like, damnedest thing, it's lucky the archetypes were there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
I'm guessing that that wouldn't be the way that they would describe it.
I doubt it.
So, yeah, the universe.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Musical instrument.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I know that when I, like, was, I think it was in fourth grade, my parents...
Made me learn a musical instrument.
But they said I couldn't play drums or guitar because they didn't want me to be in a rock band.
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
So I took up the tree.
jordan holmes
I didn't know where that was going and you got me.
You got me?
unidentified
I played the tree.
jordan holmes
I'm going to give you that one.
That one's an unqualified win for you.
unidentified
Thanks.
dan friesen
Yeah, so our bodies are musical instruments.
There's sound waves, the universe.
jordan holmes
Well, they're not actually sound waves, but that's the best way to describe them.
dan friesen
Look, in the third dimension, it's limiting to talk about these things, which I don't know what these things are.
I don't know what's going on.
I thought we were going to get to COVID news.
I don't know what's happening.
jordan holmes
I do like the scientists have proved it.
unidentified
The ancients.
jordan holmes
Everything's kind of like sound waves.
unidentified
The ancients said it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the ancients said it first, of course.
Yeah, the music of the spheres, Dan.
dan friesen
Don't try and cut out the ancients.
Apologies.
That's very rude.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is.
dan friesen
So what I've done now is I have just made cuts.
This is just his...
jordan holmes
This is one long statement.
dan friesen
Yep.
He is in a weird place.
Thought we were getting to the news.
We are not.
We are talking about our bodies being musical instruments in the third dimension or something.
Look, dude.
This is a mess.
alex jones
This is a very primitive level of God's creation.
As fantastic as it is.
This, when it comes to creational matter, very thin.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
This dimension's very, very thin.
jordan holmes
Sounds right.
alex jones
And if you call it below that, that's a human term.
But in the lower dimensions, which again exists and have been proven, it's even more empty.
dan friesen
It's more empty in the lower dimensions, right?
But that's a human term.
The lower, it's up and down, you know, it's just a human thing.
jordan holmes
No.
Yes.
Just refuse.
dan friesen
Jordan, like it or not, this is happening.
jordan holmes
Refuse.
dan friesen
This is how we go back for vacation.
jordan holmes
I refuse to hear someone say, this dimension is thin.
I don't know what you're talking about.
dan friesen
This dimension is thin on a creational level.
jordan holmes
What does that mean?
unidentified
Look, in the third dimension, third dimensional words are limiting.
jordan holmes
I don't know what that means.
dan friesen
No, neither does he.
He's just saying shit.
Anyway, space below, human term.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
More empty.
jordan holmes
Does that mean it's thinner?
dan friesen
I think so, but again, that's a human term.
jordan holmes
Right.
But, I mean, let's...
dan friesen
I suspect.
jordan holmes
Let's engage with it on that level.
So we're talking all the difference between the levels of dimension is really measurable by thin or thickness.
dan friesen
I mean, you know, in the New Age communities, whenever they talk about these higher vibrations and stuff, it's often referred to as a higher density.
jordan holmes
Sure, okay.
dan friesen
So maybe Alex is taking that as, like, actual denseness.
jordan holmes
I really...
Okay.
dan friesen
That could be what's going on.
jordan holmes
You can float easier in the fourth dimension than you can the third dimension.
dan friesen
No, I would assume if you have a lower density, you'd float more, right?
Oh, no, because you're talking about the environment is denser.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I had it backwards.
I had it backwards.
jordan holmes
All right.
I had to stop and think.
dan friesen
Look, we're engaging with too much.
Because he's not even taking us there.
He's just saying it's thin creationally.
jordan holmes
You don't just get to say that.
dan friesen
Now, I actually think the next thing he brings up is a good thought.
Maybe.
If you're high.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
And you're in college.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
And you're sitting around with your friends.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And that thought is this.
We always imagine that, like, if aliens were to come down and contact us, they'd be so much more advanced than us, man.
You know, that kind of thing?
I think we've experienced this in the Aqua Teen Hunger Force.
Sure.
jordan holmes
With the Moonanites.
Yes.
dan friesen
We've experienced this in plenty of media depictions, but yeah, of course.
I mean, we have a bias towards anything that would contact us would have to be far more advanced than us, and maybe that's not the case.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, if we can't contact them, but they can contact us, that would suggest that at least on some level, they have an ability that we don't.
dan friesen
On one level.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The contacting across...
Whatever.
That's all we know for sure.
jordan holmes
So we're theoretically opening the possibility to an intergalactic spacefaring race that still fights with clubs?
dan friesen
It's possible.
jordan holmes
I suppose.
dan friesen
Anything in this great big marble of a world.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Anyway, that's the decent thought.
I'm going out of my way to give some credibility or credence here because the rest of this thought is stupid.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
So we tend to think of interfacing with other things and like, oh, it must be advanced.
No.
Anything that would actually try to interface with us without our free will is low.
jordan holmes
Wow.
alex jones
Other than Lucifer, who does come from one dimension higher, down to our dimension.
To try to then ally with all the other dark energy, or dark's not the right word, fallen energy.
dan friesen
Dark is a human word.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Fallen.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's their word.
dan friesen
So, Satan is one step up.
jordan holmes
I mean, maybe what he's trying to say is that Satan isn't really a bad guy, but he just needs to breathe thinner air.
dan friesen
I mean, no, I don't think so.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Although that does kind of...
jordan holmes
Kind of tracks.
dan friesen
It tracks with some of the other ideas he has.
No, Satan is one level higher, and he's allying with the stuff to...
Who knows why?
jordan holmes
No, I'm not messing with that.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
I'm not messing with the why on this one.
dan friesen
No, certainly not.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I got nothing.
dan friesen
Nope, let's just move on.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Dark is the right word.
Fallen energy.
I mean, to a human brain saying it, it means there's no creation.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Darkness just means devoid of light.
Well, that's not like a black road sign.
That's just absorbing light.
So it's not the proper term, but we have to create our own terms to even understand and interface with the cosmos, which itself, again, is just an expression of God.
And I'm not an animist.
I'm not saying to these troglodyte preachers that aren't really Christians but think they are, they're Pharisees, that I worship the creation.
No, no, no, I don't worship the creation.
I'm saying God made all this, and if I create a piece of art, that is an expression of who I am.
I made that.
And that is a very primitive form of, imagine God making us, but imagine making something that has consciousness.
And free will.
Well, guess what?
God gives you a little taste of that.
It's why the Old Testament tells you quite a few times we're made the image of God.
We're not God, but we're little g.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
What do you take away from that?
unidentified
Um...
jordan holmes
Let's see.
What do I take away from...
Well...
unidentified
I think it's blasphemy!
dan friesen
Well...
Interesting.
Make your case.
jordan holmes
Well, the idea of comparing yourself to God by simply changing the size of the G would still technically really be construed as calling yourself somewhat equal to God, which I think...
Now, I don't know if I've read the Bible enough times, but that one's pretty big on the don't-do scale.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, you know, what is made in the image of really mean?
jordan holmes
Telekinesis.
dan friesen
Totally.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
A million percent.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Yeah, I was looking for a thesis.
I'm not finding it.
jordan holmes
I think that was your mistake.
dan friesen
That was.
And it's a mistake I continue to make.
It's something that's a lesson I refuse to learn.
jordan holmes
I accept that.
dan friesen
So, you know, you have an interesting perspective that you think that changing the capitalization on God doesn't mean all that much.
No.
I think Alex thinks it does.
jordan holmes
Of course he does.
But also he thinks he's got the personal connection to God that gives him visions all the time.
Right.
There's that.
dan friesen
But he's not God capital letters.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Right?
Satan.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He comes down from his address, which is just the level above us.
jordan holmes
Sure, the fourth dimension.
dan friesen
Alex has his address, actually.
It's in the dimension right above us.
48. He comes down, and he's like, hey, hey, how you doing?
You're God.
Satan tries to convince you that you are God.
jordan holmes
Does Satan get a capital S in the fourth dimension and a lowercase s in the third dimension?
dan friesen
I never thought about it.
I always considered it to be a proper noun.
jordan holmes
Yeah, me too.
dan friesen
Like it's a name, right?
jordan holmes
But if God's fungible, I feel like Satan's fungible.
dan friesen
That was too confusing.
alex jones
We're not God, but we're little g.
And Satan goes all the way and goes, oh no, no, you're even better than God.
Well, no, you're fallen.
Okay?
But that's what they tell you in things like 2001 Space Odyssey, that after you go through this process, you come back as a star child, reincarnated to like a sperm.
Implant the egg that is Earth and create the new Lucifer race.
Well, that's just satanic poppycock, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen
Satanic poppycock.
jordan holmes
I thought it was maybe a little bit long, but I didn't necessarily construe it as satanic poppycock.
Well, that's fair.
dan friesen
I feel like you are not the most reliable cinematic reviewer if you didn't pick up on the satanic poppycock.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
dan friesen
Because it was...
unidentified
Overt.
jordan holmes
I missed that in Ebert's review, but I suppose it was all unspoken.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Siskel was all about the satanic poppycock.
unidentified
I give it two thumbs down for satanism.
alex jones
Devilry.
dan friesen
So it turns out, actually, you know, the stuff in 2001, A Space Odyssey, might be just as real as Frankenstein.
alex jones
Well, that's just satanic poppycock, ladies and gentlemen.
But I am...
Explaining that the devil creates facsimiles or counterfeits of what God has actually created.
And I can tell you, the stuff that came up with the 2001 Space Odyssey with the primitive special effects is very close to actually what's going on.
And I'll just leave it at that.
I want to get all this news.
dan friesen
Yeah, you need to get back to the news.
jordan holmes
Yeah, tell me more about that.
Tell me more about that.
I want to know more about that.
dan friesen
2001 Space Odyssey is actually very real.
They were very close to accurate just with their rudimentary special effects.
I got to get back to the news.
jordan holmes
Yes, you do on a certain level.
For me, please do not.
dan friesen
How dare you say something like that?
How dare you introduce this idea and then be like...
Ah, what's in the news?
Boo.
jordan holmes
So 50 years ago, special effects were very similar to what they had then.
So would you say that special effects have gotten better enough that they are what they have now?
Or is it, like, proportional?
Are special effects true to what reality was 50 years ago, and now it's 50 years ahead of what we have?
dan friesen
I mean, it would have to be, right?
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
That's the only thing that makes sense.
dan friesen
If the evil globalists are implanting secret messages that control all of cinema and media, it's not like they wouldn't give access to secret technologies for special effects.
jordan holmes
Right.
So Andy Serkis only has a career because of aliens.
dan friesen
I think that's what I'm hearing.
jordan holmes
I think that's what I'm hearing.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know about that, that whether or not the cinema world is privy to those futuristic technologies.
jordan holmes
I'm just going to go ahead and say Kong vs.
Godzilla is real.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So when you said, I'm going to get back to the news, that's where this sort of excursion into lunacy ended.
unidentified
Boo!
dan friesen
I know.
That weirded me out so much.
I was like, what are you trying to express?
It seems like just kind of a bit of standard shitheadery from New Age space conspiracy communities.
jordan holmes
Sure, I could hear Rogan saying some dumb nonsense like that.
That's not far off from what dumb nonsense Rogan spouts, right?
dan friesen
I could see...
Somebody who wouldn't get invited on Rogan, but really wants to.
jordan holmes
Almost there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
One tier below where you gotta be.
dan friesen
I don't see a lot of depth here.
I just see killing time, rambling about nonsense.
Sure.
And then Alex gets angry about his nonsense.
alex jones
Life is only an experience.
Of free will that God created.
Because the only thing God can create separate from God's all-knowing, all-powerful, all-controlling, omnipotent, omnipresent, beyond-twelfth-dimensional total completeness is creatures with free will that create other creatures with free will and the capacity to interface with this time-space continuum galacticus beyond.
That is the secret to all of it.
That we have been made by an all-powerful, sentient creature that created everything and doesn't want to be alone.
And so put us on this planet away from other things so we don't kill everything while we run around inside our nursery.
And what does God put in the nursery to test its creation?
Puts a lot of nasty stuff.
dan friesen
That's weird.
jordan holmes
What a weird God!
dan friesen
What a weird guy on the radio.
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
You know what I was thinking?
While I was listening to this, I was like, this...
Alex is turned into like the...
Like, I remember when I was growing up, there was the small town church that had like 15 to 20 people in it.
dan friesen
The sort of revivalist preacher.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and everybody avoided them.
They were just like, I don't want to know what goes on there.
It's none of our business, and we just stay out of it, you know?
dan friesen
It's loud?
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's something going on, but we just...
It's like a black hole in the small town where everyone just kind of avoids it out of instinct.
dan friesen
I think I might have gone to a couple of those churches, and I think I know what you mean.
And there was one moment in his thing that really hit home in that way for me, and that is when he's yelling about, like, we were created by an all-powerful being, and then there's the pause and the...
Who doesn't want to be alone.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
It's the anger, the pause, and then the soft delivery of this idea that created us to keep him company.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Or whatever.
jordan holmes
You can hear it.
dan friesen
That's just evangelized.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I've been to a church where there were snakes before.
I've heard this.
dan friesen
That rhythm and cadence is very tent preacher kind of vibe.
And then the other thing that I thought about when I heard that clip was...
About, like, the naming of his website as Prison Planet.
It's really interesting to me the way that, like, if you think that he's just this guy who's into political conspiracies and, like, hey, if a one-world government comes into place and they turn into a tyrannical dictatorship, we are on a prison planet.
You can't get off.
There's nowhere to run if there's a one-world government that's in control of everywhere on Earth.
It is a prison planet.
But if you look at it the way he's kind of...
Talking now, it's more like, you know, the earth nursery idea.
It's kind of like he's saying that, like, you know, I'm in a crib.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
I'm in a crib, and this weird god threw a scorpion in here.
jordan holmes
Sure!
Sure!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, hey, I got pushed into the deep end when I was five, and you swim or you die, you know?
It's that kind of thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it also implies that there's a bunch of other aliens on other planets, or humans on other planets, that have gone through whatever we're going through now.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, if God's lonely, it stands to reason that maybe he's lonely enough to make more.
And so he's just running this shell game of the universe all the time.
dan friesen
I would suggest that maybe...
How is it possible that if...
The whole thing is because God's lonely.
Why is he still lonely?
jordan holmes
It's escalation.
You get what you want and you find out you just want more.
That's how it works.
God's not immune to that kind of thing.
dan friesen
It seems like there's a lot of people who've lived.
If you need some company, there's plenty of options.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You know, on the other hand, why does anybody die at all if he's so lonely?
You know, why not just make some people and keep them around and party?
dan friesen
Well, because it's a test.
You gotta be in the nursery.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Gotta deal with the scorpion.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then get out of the crib or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it almost kind of...
dan friesen
It's baby-ish.
It's a really baby-ish idea.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, really, it's more similar, I would say, to the wheel of reincarnation than anything else.
You know, that idea of, like, you're constantly being tested throughout time until you become a full being.
And then you ascend beyond it.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I don't know how Alex's ideas about reincarnation work exactly.
I know that he thinks that you're literally your ancestors.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
And all that.
Right.
But I don't know how that works with ancestors that are concurrently alive.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
I don't really understand any of that.
And I don't know where you go in between.
He doesn't really articulate a lot of that stuff.
I don't know if it is a situation where he believes in the reincarnative test.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is weird.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think this is dumb.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So, there is some news, and Alex has been building up to this news, but I didn't realize it.
jordan holmes
I have such a hard time remembering that this has got a news part on it.
alex jones
Let me just show you the big news, because if I covered this last hour, no one would care.
So I built it up for an hour, so that you would care.
And I'm not mad at you, I'm the same way.
dan friesen
I didn't feel like he'd been building this up for an hour.
jordan holmes
He told me all about the fourth dimension!
dan friesen
Yeah, I felt like he got distracted about bullshit.
unidentified
Yes!
Yes!
jordan holmes
He hasn't been teasing it.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
He's been ignoring it.
dan friesen
I know teasing Alex.
We've experienced that over and over again on this show.
jordan holmes
Oh, but roll down your windows.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Now, in an hour, I'm going to cover this, and I will need you to go stand over the highway.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
That's not the behavior he's been engaging in here.
If anything, he's escapist.
Yes.
So anyway, here's the big news.
alex jones
Here it is.
But this is broke about an hour ago, or that's at least when I learned about it.
Major study by the University of Louisville.
Mass doesn't show any signs or any evidence that they helped stop the spread of COVID.
There it is.
Mass didn't slow COVID spread.
New study finds.
dan friesen
So this is a non-peer-reviewed study.
That came out, and there's people who have some questions about the methodology of it.
And even under ideal circumstances, and assuming that it goes through peer review and stands up to scrutiny, it still isn't saying that masks aren't effective.
It was looking at larger populations and making estimates based on whether or not mask mandates had an effect on a larger population.
jordan holmes
That's a good study, yeah.
dan friesen
As opposed to, on an individual level, whether or not masks had any...
Effect in terms of actual transmission.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
There are plenty of studies that have actually looked at the question that Alex is pretending this study answers, and they have routinely shown that they do.
They are effective.
Maybe not 100% effective, but they are effective in as much as it's something you can do.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
As opposed to nothing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And anyway, this is about something different than what he's saying it is.
And then secondarily, It's too early to really take it as solid, like a bedrock of reporting.
This is just sloppy.
jordan holmes
Anyway, he wasn't teasing this.
If he says studies say, I always hear you say, he's referencing a non-peer-reviewed study.
That's the next sentence.
dan friesen
That's something that's weird.
You know, like, when he says a study, it's some non-peer-reviewed thing that's on, like, a pre-print or something, and maybe will get peer-reviewed or maybe won't, and then you'll just forget about it and you'll never know where it ends up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's the same thing with bills.
Like, if you look back at, like, these past times on his show when he actually talked about news more, he would have these bills that he'd complain about, and they are always things that ended up dying in committee.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
They're always bills that are, like...
Can you believe someone's doing X, Y, or Z?
I can, but I also know that that is never going to even get a vote.
It's kind of the same thing.
He's preemptively making everything a huge deal.
And that's one of the reasons why I can't do the coverage of the Police State 3 that I wanted to do.
It's almost entirely about Patriot Act 2 that doesn't happen.
unidentified
It doesn't happen.
alex jones
It's...
jordan holmes
Yeah, studies say, next sentence, non-peer-reviewed.
HB 2033, next sentence, died in committee.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we have one last clip here, and this is a good indication and example of why everything in Alex's world is a trap.
alex jones
Biden orders U.S. intel to analyze information on possible Wuhan lab leak.
That means cover it up.
Have his hand-picked Stooges.
I now have a 90-day research, which he ordered it, by the way, killed, but now he can organize a new team to lie to everybody.
That's the translation there.
You don't need me to tell you that.
You already know that.
dan friesen
So if Biden doesn't investigate the theory that there was a lab origin to the coronavirus, then it's a cover-up.
And if he does do an investigation of it, it's a cover-up.
It doesn't matter.
The reality and what happens don't matter.
The spin is intact no matter what.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
The only way Alex would allow for something to be real would be if Trump himself was running this commission, and the only conclusion that they even accepted from the beginning is that not only was this a bioweapon release that came out of that lab, but she single-handedly...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, and it actually is a...
It's a special kind of virus that actually, if you look at the molecules, it spells out communism.
alex jones
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
It's got Xi Jinping written on the virus, you know, like that level of bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah, and that's why, you know, a lot of this stuff is just, it should be taken seriously in as much as, like, there's dangerous consequences of it.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And it is illustrative of...
Bad thought patterns, certainly.
But when you hear stuff like that, you should recognize that this is how he treats everything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Everything is a trap.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
It's pathetic.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I hate it.
Biden could do X. Biden could do Y. Either way, the decision tree for what Alex is going to say about it is the same.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's like preparing for a disaster.
You say that preparing for the disaster makes it happen, if it does happen, or if it doesn't happen, you say that by revealing that the preparation for the disaster would make it happen, you stopped the disaster.
dan friesen
Yeah, or talking about these bills that die in committee, or, you know, like, hey, you know, the only reason it died in committee is because we talked about it.
Yeah, totally.
It's just a trap.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you create a universe where you always win, and then you never have to feel bad about yourself, so why would you go back to the real universe, you know?
dan friesen
Yeah, sounds fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Jordan, this has been fun.
We're back.
jordan holmes
It's great to be back, Dan.
dan friesen
You know what?
We had such a good time.
jordan holmes
I want you to play the birthday one again, too.
That one still tickles me.
dan friesen
Can't do it.
You have to wait until next time.
unidentified
Not yet.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So yeah, we'll be back, Jordan, on Monday, and I hope to have gotten a little bit more through the Fauci emails by then.
A little more time.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
Now go to Jordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
On Facebook, if you'd like to download iTunes.
If you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work right now.
dan friesen
We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZXClark, I'm Daryl Rundis.
I live next door to Satan in the sixth dimension.
Maybe fifth?
I'm not sure.
One above ours.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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