On October 16, 2014, Alex Jones stoked Ebola hysteria—claiming 911 dispatchers avoided saying "Ebola" (a New York Post misreport) and falsely accusing the CDC of letting infected nurses fly commercially. He tied it to Islamophobic conspiracies, nuclear threats, and even a fake "poop bandit" incident, while promoting InfoWarsLife.com and gold purchases via disgraced dealer Ted Anderson (later stripped of his BBB license). Despite later COVID-19 critiques, Jones’ 2014 panic lacked evidence, instead weaponizing fear to sell products and shape narratives, revealing a pattern of exploitation over accuracy. [Automatically generated summary]
We set out to, the plan initially was because I had a kind of a strange schedule and a little bit of a, I need a little bit of a step back kind of feel.
That's almost like one of those coloring book prompts, you know, like, hey, you guys listen to the first half hour of us talking and then fill in the rest whenever you feel like you didn't.
So in a period of mere hours, you've put together another episode for us to release by wiping away my failure only for us to share it for the rest of the day.
I think I might have gone down the wrong road with this setup, but earlier this week on Monday, Pat had a birthday and wanted to say happy birthday to you, Pat.
Fox Television DC is reporting not to say Ebola over the radio or when they're basically talking about a call that they're on.
We have Obama saying there's nothing to fear that it's a low probability that an epidemic will start in the U.S. Even as we learn that the second nurse to contract Ebola traveled all over the place on aircraft and that the plane was not even cleaned.
That is wiped down.
They picked up the trash on the floor, but not a deep clean for five more flights after she was on it.
So this story that Alex is opening the show with about the 911 dispatchers not being allowed to say Ebola on the radio is not from Fox DC.
Fox DC did run a story about it with the headline that Alex is reading, but that article is just a link to the original story, which is from the New York Post.
There's tons of people who aren't first responders who listen in on emergency radio channels, and you could easily imagine how a panic could break out if every call that came in where someone was worried that they had Ebola was misinterpreted by someone listening in as a definite or probable case.
If you actually read the New York Post article, this is exactly what it's about.
A source speaking to the post said, quote, just like you can't say bomb on an airplane, we can't say Ebola.
Back in the 80s and 90s, taking universal precautions meant someone had AIDS.
We weren't allowed to say AIDS then either.
Dr. Jay Varma, the deputy commissioner of the City Department of Health, gave some idea of how many opportunities there have been for false panics to start.
Quote, we have now had about 133 calls since July concerning patients with possible Ebola symptoms, and all 133 were false alarms.
Yeah, so from an emergency response perspective, I do see how it could be best practices to use language that wouldn't necessarily be exploitable by people who may have ill will and are listening in on your communications.
So as for that nurse story, that was true, sort of.
It's true that she did fly the day before she was diagnosed with Ebola, but experts don't believe that it was as big a deal as it sounds.
The first reason is that at the time of her flying, she wasn't exhibiting symptoms that would put people at high risk, like vomiting.
Even so, Thomas Frieden, then the director of the CDC, was clear that, quote, she should not have flown on a commercial airplane.
And he immediately put in place guidelines that anyone who had been exposed to somebody with Ebola would only travel by way of controlled movement, like private flights and chartered vehicles.
Well, prior to that, this was just recommended by the CDC.
But after, quote, the agency would work with state and local authorities to enforce this restriction.
I found a Washington Post article about this, and it seems to directly contradict Alex's claims about there being five more flights before the plane was cleaned.
From that article, quote, the plane, Vinton, that's the nurse, traveled on, arrived in Dallas at 8.16 p.m. on Monday and remained overnight because it was done with flights for that day.
After that, the plane received a thorough cleaning per our normal procedures before resuming service Tuesday, Frontier said in a statement.
I was able to find the article that Alex is misrepresenting.
There was a piece in the Denver Post with the headline, quote, emails out to passengers on five frontier flights after Ebola patient flew.
As it turns out, the airline did send notification to the people who were on the same plane that the nurse had flown on, but it wasn't because they hadn't cleaned it.
It was out of an abundance of caution.
The plane had been cleaned, but later the nurse was diagnosed with Ebola, and by that point that anyone knew anything, the plane had already flown five additional flights the next day.
Informing the customers is definitely the right thing to do in terms of making sure everyone's informed.
This article points out that after this nurse was diagnosed, the plane was going to undergo even further cleaning, quote, including replacement of seat covers and carpet in the vicinity of the passenger's seat.
But this still doesn't support Alex's, all they did was pick up trash.
You would think that somebody engaging responsibly with the topics they were covering wouldn't be like, hey, let me try and use this as a cheap stunt meme promotional opportunity.
We have just absolutely over-the-top important news on the Ebola front, on the economic front, on the Second Amendment front, on the police state front, with Houston literally trying to intimidate churches into not giving sermons that criticize transsexual behavior or homosexuality.
And a lot of libertarian groups have been coming out, and even though they are open to other lifestyles because they're libertarians, they are defending these preachers because if you're going to have your right to live the way you want, somebody else has to have their right to live and speak as they see fit.
Flaming authoritarianism, pun intended out of the Houston mayor and the rest of them.
In 2014, Houston passed an equal rights ordinance that included protections for members of the LGBTQ community in terms of housing, employment, and what have you.
This was on the vanguard of the right-wing panic about trans people in bathrooms.
So one of the hot-button issues was that, according to an article in the Washington Post, quote, transgender people barred access to a restroom would be able to file a discrimination complaint.
It's worth noting that religious entities were also exempted from this ruling, so they weren't even involved.
A group of citizens filed a lawsuit aimed at repealing the ordinance as part of the and as part of that lawsuit, quote, city attorneys issued subpoenas to five local pastors during the case's discovery phase.
These pastors were alleged to have connections to the people who filed the lawsuit and were active in the effort to repeal the ordinance.
So the attorneys requested, quote, all speeches, presentations, or sermons related to hero, that's the ordinance.
Right.
The petition, Mayor Anise Parker, homosexuality or gender identity prepared by, delivered by, revised by, or approved by you, or in your possession.
The question that was being posed by these subpoenas were whether or not these pastors were using their churches as political organizing grounds, which would put their tax-exempt status in jeopardy since taxes-exempt churches, quote, are not allowed to engage in partisan politics.
By October 16th, the day that Alex is here on air, controversy had been raging about this, and the subpoena was revised to just ask for, quote, all speeches or presentations related to hero or the petition prepared by, delivered by, revised by, or approved by you or in your possession.
And as we know, now that we live in the future, the government really cracked down on that, and churches were no longer allowed to advocate for political positions from the pulpit.
That would just be wrong, Dan.
Didn't you see so many churches across this country after Trump was elected?
Didn't you see them lose their 501c3 status all over the place for advocating for political positions?
Anyway, this is a complex topic that gets into a lot of those issues more than anything else.
And, you know, you could make an argument that there was overreach and over-broadness in terms of the subpoenas that were put out by the city attorneys.
Someone sued the city, and the city is doing discovery.
Anyway, he just wants to take this and, you know, he wants to boil it down into a misrepresentation that's easier for his audience to understand and, more importantly, be mad about.
It would be nice if Christ had lived and just been super cool because then maybe Christians wouldn't constantly feel like playing the victim is the only way to deal with life.
Jordan, I got to say, one of the things I didn't expect on this episode as I was getting into it, because you know, Ebola is a pretty big topic, and it certainly has mirrors and echoes in our current COVID-19 situation.
What I didn't expect is a large portion of this episode would end up becoming a movie review.
I feel like if there was a bone of authenticity in Alex's body, the second that the guy who wrote Dark Alliance is giving you a CD of secret documents, you drop everything.
I don't want to shit on the idea of prioritizing family and what have you.
That's all good.
If you're somebody who fancies yourself an investigative journalist whose mission it is to get to the bottom of the nefarious doings of the globalists, this behavior strikes me as very out of character.
And then watching how they demonized him and how they tried to kill his name before they physically killed him and experiencing a lot of this myself, it was a surreal.
I've never gone and seen a movie where, from what I know, it was so incredibly accurate and so incredibly sad.
And then I resonated with it because they always make it about the individual.
If they can't disprove your facts, they just demonize and destroy the individual themselves.
And I got a sick feeling in my stomach as I realized that the clocks just tick until they come and shoot me in the head twice or plant drugs on me or shoot me at a checkpoint or something.
And it just made me sad to watch all the cowards, his editors, and like you.
I just thought that the juxtaposition of those two stories is fascinating.
In the first one, Alex is claiming that vomit-filled airplanes are arriving in the United States from West Africa and not being cleaned, obviously trying to create the impression in his audience's mind there are so many more cases of Ebola in the United States than we're being told.
No, he's in a weird, almost like experiment of if his experiment to me of like listening to his show, would be, somebody sitting in a chair, like strapped down, and every five minutes, just a little jolt is given to the emotional center of their brain and you just have to sit there for four hours and feel this constant emotional pressure.
Yeah yeah yeah, as in my experience, I don't think, uh, that's not wrong, it's not that far off, I disconnect from it, so it doesn't affect me as much.
Yeah, listening to it, but you remove that little part of your brain.
Well, I imagine that that part of the brain would be very antagonized if you believed anything he said.
Yeah totally, since I don't, i'm a little bit immune.
You won't die, maybe not, but the government's killing you, but maybe not now hold on what's up?
I thought listening to the original episode uh, about this period of time in the Ebola situation, and listening to the beginning of this episode, I thought you know, this is horrible, this is uh irresponsible.
And then I think it's kind of tasteless to have this Ebola meme contest.
Okay good, they'd first said that it was her fault and she shouldn't have done it, but now it's admitted in NBC NEWS that a bola patient who can contacted the CDC before Flight Agency says was told that she could fly even though she was an ebola nurse and even though she You told him she had a fever.
Steele had been on Alex's show in September to speculate about the possibility of a false flag Ebola attack.
But the fact that he was creating narratives about Ebola at that point isn't really all that weird.
The first case in West Africa from this outbreak was reported in December 2013.
And by March 2014, there was spreading happening.
By July, it had reached the capital cities of Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone.
And according to the CDC, quote, this was the first time Ebola extended out from more isolated rural areas and into densely populated urban centers, providing an unprecedented opportunity for transmission.
By August, there were Ebola scares being reported to hospitals in the United States.
According to the advisory board's timeline, quote, before the end of the month, more than 60 hospitals reported some type of scare to the CDC, but none of the tests sent to the agency returned positive for the virus.
As for the story about the nurse on the plane, Alex isn't making up that NBC News reported that she did, in fact, check in with the CDC before getting on the plane.
The problem is that Alex is acting like the CDC has a staff of like 12 people and everyone knows everything that's going on.
This very article that Alex is referencing explains how everything happened.
At the time, it was believed that this nurse had worn all the appropriate protective gear, and as such, she was considered a lower risk category of person, technically titled, quote, uncertain risk.
Before she flew, the nurse called the CDC and talked to a staffer who, quote, looked on the agency's website for guidance, the spokesperson said.
The category for uncertain risk has guidance saying a person could fly commercially if they did not meet the threshold of a temperature of 100.4.
She had a slight fever, but it was below that reading.
So technically, she wouldn't have been barred from flying.
Director Frieden didn't know that she had contacted the CDC when he made his comment that she shouldn't have flown.
From the NBC News article, quote, the spokesperson says he believes Frieden said that because it should have been common sense to Vincent that she should not fly with a slight temperature.
911 emergency dispatchers instructed not to say Ebola over the radio.
That's out of Fox News, D.C. They're being told not to create panic and are being given a secret code to describe Ebola.
See, the cover-up's already on.
As I said, Ebola probably is already spreading in the U.S.
They had to let it in and let it breed first, and then they'll not, you know, they'll say they don't know where it all began or where it started, and oh, it's all Obama's fault.
And it's going to bring in a medical tyranny, forced inoculation, and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation dedicated to population reduction and the Monsanto vaccine they produced.
Well, I think that one of the differences that you see is that people responded kind of more appropriately to people like Alex at that time, or at least people who are actually making decisions and being adults who would be like, oh, I don't care.
So now, if you're somebody who's, I don't know, in the past and you're listening to Alex and you're taking some of the stuff that he's saying about Ebola seriously, I would say like, maybe you should hear this and be like, I'm going to turn this off.
I mean, I hate to get gross here, but you've heard about the phenomenon in government buildings suddenly that people are peeing on the walls and going to the bathroom and cubby holes and in the hallways, even though the bathrooms are working perfectly fine and smearing it all over the walls.
This is what mental patients do.
This is what people who are above the law start doing.
Is that running around going to the bathroom as poop bandits, as they're known?
So in late August 2014, there were some stories going around about a particular EPA office in Denver, which had, quote, been beset by roughly a dozen suspected incidents of restroom shenanigans since late 2013, according to emails, memorandums, and incident reports.
Why no protective gear for man with Dallas Ebola patient?
We have video of this.
We'll roll some of it in the background.
The video from CBS News is up on Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com.
This lends credence to Rob Dew running around the office thinking this is crisis actors because he's been analyzing video and he's worked at national TV, home shopping network.
You know, he used to be a director there.
And so he knows stage stuff.
And he says that, you know, why are people not wearing protective gear with the Ebola patient?
As we have right there.
And is it people just don't care and they're idiots?
But it might not be that really fucked up or dangerous.
This very article that Alex is citing in order to talk about the headline includes this passage.
Quote, when a member of the Dallas CDC team was shown the video and asked if it was a safe moment or not, he said he didn't have a problem with what he saw.
The situations apparently met CDC protocol because the people in the hazmat suits were the ones assisting Vincent and the plainclothes man was not.
The CDC spokesman said that the man maintained an appropriate distance from the patient for the amount of time on the tarmac and it must be taken into account that Vincent was also wearing protective gear.
This is how little some idiot like Rob Dew needs to justify denying people's illnesses and deaths.
He just needs some video that looks strange that he didn't care to look into at all.
The thing that I still have a hard time wrapping my head around that we found out from all those depositions is at this point in time, apparently only PJ dubs in the entire InfoWars sphere was listening to this going like, yee guys, this is a bad idea.
Not only do I believe that the government is intentionally spreading Ebola all over the place, and it's a false flag, it's also a diversion from nukes they're about to drop.
Let me go over the top in a comically scary scenario that I'm painting for you as a very distinct possibility based on my years of research about how these globalists operate.
And more importantly, I was trained at Cornell University Medical College between 64 and 1968 by a very competent infectious disease doctor who was really the foremost infectious disease doctor.
And you see him on television.
That is Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute for Infectious Diseases.
It's pretty remarkable to dig back a little bit and see, like, you know, this is this mirror, this echo is so funhouse mirror is the only way I can describe it.
And what I have recommended and repeatedly recommended is that Dr. Friedman of the CDC resign, that the CDC be placed on stand down because they really have no, they're not effective.
They've been inefficient.
And they have no authoritative capacity to demand either the city, the state, or any institution to do what's mandatory.
Instead, I think that Fauci, Dr. Tony Fauci, should be given executive privilege or executive authority by the President of the United States, consistent with 1892 constitutional authority and both military powers, if need be, because we no longer have the public health service, which is not functioning.
But it actually helps me put some pieces together because I always did think it was a little bit weird that at the beginning of the coronavirus situation, Alex was painting Fauci as a good guy.
And he said he made some calls and looked into him.
And hearing Steve talk about him like this, talk about Fauci like this at this point makes me think like, oh, Alex called Steve and Steve told him he's cool.
Maybe the biggest thing that happened that we need to go back and kind of analyze is the creation of the feedback loop between the right-wing propaganda creating Trump and then Trump echoing right-wing propaganda back at them.
So many other events, 9-11, the open funding of ISIS, changing the name from Al-Qaeda.
All of this is coming out.
But when you look at this Ebola situation, I'm not saying it's not ravaging Africa.
I'm not saying it isn't, you know, living in the body longer before the symptoms show up, 21 days instead of three.
It's clearly mutating, getting stronger.
But it just, I can't believe that this type of ineptitude to bring in Ebola patients, they never did that before, to let people fly in from West Africa, from ravaged areas when other countries had already banned it months ago.
I mean, it appears that Ineptitude wouldn't be this precise at doing everything they could to grease the skids for Ebola.
Are you getting any information on them allowing this to spread to kind of bring in a medical tyranny to create a political distraction?
Are there any motives for this to be a false flag?
No, not really, because number one, it is very hard to create an epidemic to create a false flag.
Newtown was a false flag because Eric Calder had funded a very dysfunctional governor and a dysfunctional town and a bunch of Connecticut state troopers who were just pathetic.
It's like it's just, you can see it going down the same exact train of thought no matter what time period it is, because it's the thought process itself that leads you to believe action towards aversion is actually causing things.
Yeah, and it's deeply cynical and cruel, the way that Alex operates in this respect.
It really is a denial and disregard for the fact that there are people who are suffering and dealing with this.
Yep.
And a rank disregard for the people who are listening who are probably scared and need information.
They need to have conveyed accurate information that allows them to make appropriate decisions.
Like the emails that were sent out to the people who were on the plane after, even though there probably wasn't a reason to be worried, that's appropriate.
You're giving the people the information that they need to be able to make appropriate decisions.
These listeners are tuning into Alex because they think that they're going to get some kind of insight that they're not going to get elsewhere.
And he's lying to them in a way that's designed to scare them.
Yep.
And just to get them to get their immune system ready with the products that he sells over at InflowWars.com.
And As the world economy melts down, gold will go up, even as other commodities go down, because it's an ultimate store of wealth and a hedge against imploding economies, and it is up.
When I heard that bond markets had imploded and the stock market was down so much today, I thought, man, I bet gold goes down.
I said this aloud, but I said, or maybe it'll go up because when I saw that oil was way down, I thought, I wonder.
But, man, when I saw gold going up, that's pretty serious right there.
No, but again, it was this Max Kaiser just kind of like he operates outside of the grifts that are going on because he's scamming and stuff, but I think he's so rich that he doesn't care.
Ted Anderson joining us on short notice from California.
The owner of the GCN Radio Network.
He also is one of the biggest private gold dealers with a triple-A rating from the Better Business Bureau, something you can't say of most other gold dealers out there.
He's riding by my gold for 20 years, about 19 years.
He's been a sponsor for 19.
I've worked in this time slot for 18 years.
I never wanted to go up against Rush Limbaugh.
Ted said, no, we're going to do it.
He's got a monopoly in cities and a lot of stations want to have a show to go up against it.
You're on here, not at night, if you want to work at this network.
So here I am.
And funny enough, I'm now beating Rush Limbaugh in ratings wherever I'm put up against him, even on smaller stations.
And I didn't mean to even get him on to pitch gold with Midas.
But folks, if you wait until the fall or it historically goes up, if you wait until there is a big rush, it's already up, what, 20-something bucks today?
Can we pull that up for me, CNBC?
Now is the time, I believe, to get into gold and silver or at least get some of the books or financial prospectus documents that Midas Resources has.
And so, I mean, like, this is kind of the payoff, the prestige of the panic and the fear that Alex has been building throughout the episode with his hysterical nonsense, his talking about the bond markets falling apart.
And that part with Max Kaiser is a nice bridge to the interview with Ted Anderson in order to funnel people to give them the solution to the problem.
We've created this problem that is false flag, Ebola.
You see the dark, twisted, like distorted version of the narratives that are being sold in the present about coronavirus being applied to Ebola in seven years prior, just with completely, you know, like different clothes.
Like back then, they could fuck around with crisis actor stuff because they hadn't been checked on that front.
So Rob Dew thinks that maybe these people with Ebola are fake.
Anthony Fauci wasn't somebody that Trump got into a fight with.
So anytime that he says he has the documents, it might be just some CD ROM that may or may not exist in a warehouse somewhere that he has no fucking idea.
Well, maybe not proof of all of them, but at least the building block that would get you to where something is solidly proven that you can maybe build from.
And I think that would be really important for him because as far as I can tell from the bedrock of so many of these conspiracies, the primary sources that you go back to, they just don't hold up.
So if he did have these secret classified documents, you would never, you'd put that, you'd fucking handcuff it to your wrists.
In the episode that we did not record, I played this clip for you.
The two guys that we were talking about watched a 20-minute conspiracy theory video, and I only played you one clip from it, and it was the guy narrating it say, about a month ago, I lost all of you.