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Feb. 22, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
01:15:30
#534: February 19, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see how last week ended at Infowars studios. In this installment, Alexander Jones has a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day.

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alex jones
15:14
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dan friesen
35:33
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jordan holmes
17:49
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joel skousen
01:39
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alex jones
Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
alex jones
Knowledge Fight.
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
Knowledge Fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
I need, I need money.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your room.
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
Shut up!
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
That's a trick daddy.
jordan holmes
Now we're doing a different show.
Immediately, we just skip into a different show.
alex jones
What's up?
jordan holmes
Remix!
Remix knowledge fight!
unidentified
Uh-oh!
jordan holmes
Y 'all thought you were coming for Alex Jones!
dan friesen
One of my two favorite things.
What's up?
unidentified
Shut up.
Shut up.
dan friesen
And then the other one is the...
Hey, what's your favorite ice cream flavor?
Jordan, I'm serious.
What's your favorite ice cream flavor?
jordan holmes
It doesn't matter what you're...
The Rock.
dan friesen
You're going to ask what my bright spot is.
Jordan?
jordan holmes
Yes, what is your bright spot?
dan friesen
Today my bright spot is we're checking in on the Hot Sauce of the Month Club that Policywonk Lisa signed us up for.
This month, I was a little late getting over to the box because of snow and schedule and stuff, but this month we got the Slow Death Hot Sauce, and this is...
This is good.
unidentified
It's good.
dan friesen
This is quite good, yes.
jordan holmes
For now, you don't know what's going to happen later.
It's the slow death, Dan.
dan friesen
I might die slowly.
jordan holmes
You don't know how slow it is.
dan friesen
It's very hot, but it also is a Trinidad scorpion pepper-based sauce, and I like the flavor of that a lot.
jordan holmes
What kind of hot?
Now that I'm a hot sauce guy, too.
dan friesen
Taste a little bit.
jordan holmes
No, I'm not ready for that just yet.
You said very hot, and I don't think I'm comfortable with very hot just yet.
dan friesen
I think you could handle it.
jordan holmes
Sure, but not before the show is over.
dan friesen
It might make things go down a strange path.
You can try something after the show.
It's pretty good.
I like it a bit.
I could see myself using it for dipping chicken, maybe, or adding to a sauce.
jordan holmes
Kick it up a little.
dan friesen
Throw a little in some soup.
jordan holmes
Maybe a little meat sauce.
Put a little hot sauce in there.
unidentified
Sure, why not?
jordan holmes
Yeah, do it.
dan friesen
Yeah, piano, you're getting a little bit of marinara together.
jordan holmes
What's your favorite flavor of spaghetti?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
It doesn't matter!
dan friesen
You have to interrupt.
jordan holmes
I understand.
You're too fast.
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Dan, is...
We were talking about this earlier today.
My bright spot is the Chris Gethard show.
dan friesen
Oh, sure.
jordan holmes
As you and I have spoken...
dan friesen
Going back to our early seasons.
jordan holmes
We have spoken about this show so much, and you know I'm a huge fan, obviously.
dan friesen
Chris Gethard got you a cameo.
jordan holmes
You cruelly forced him to say nice things about me through the medium of money, like some sort of indentured servitude.
dan friesen
Yeah, you thought your book was in...
Barnes and Noble.
jordan holmes
Yes.
And we've developed a great friendship since then.
dan friesen
Yes, absolutely.
jordan holmes
But, yeah, no.
I've been starting so many projects.
I've been trying to find something new to, like, really sink my teeth into.
And watching the Chris Gathard show and just that, like, unfettered creativity of it all is very inspiring.
And it's like, don't give up on doing weird shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's good to reconnect with that from time to time.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, that sort of mentality.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
And that whole, like...
We're a public access show.
We know no one's watching.
That's why we're free.
That's something beautiful about it.
That embracing of like, no, we're not trying to get famous or anything like this.
dan friesen
It's really interesting, too, to consider that both Chris Gethard and Alex Jones grew out of public access.
jordan holmes
That is interesting, yes.
The two people who affect my life most today.
dan friesen
Two very divergent individuals.
Very different paths they have tread.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Both of them started at UCB.
dan friesen
It's true.
No, no.
Alex was a groundling.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
dan friesen
Get it right.
jordan holmes
Sorry.
dan friesen
My bad.
So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting thing to go over.
We're talking about Friday of last week.
It's February 19th, 2020.
alex jones
Blackjack!
jordan holmes
I think that counts.
You got 2020...
dan friesen
I think we're going to leave that to the judges.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The judges in the audience will determine.
I think the only question is whether or not you fully finished the 21. I think you started before I finished, and that's why I stopped.
unidentified
I think.
dan friesen
Anyway, it's Friday of last week.
This episode is nutso.
jordan holmes
Okay.
I imagine so.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Power's back on.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Pretty much in the Inforer studio, although maybe it's running on generators.
It's unclear.
Alex is really, really mad.
He is really mad.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He has a lot of breakdowns on this episode and some will be fun to laugh at and discuss what he's lying about in order to get himself in the place where he can freak out.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But before we cover this episode, Jordan, let's take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up on our sporting show.
jordan holmes
That's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, I like his name a lot.
It's an affirmation.
I'm a worthy human being.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, thing I have never said to my mirror.
dan friesen
Next, UnAmerican Podcast.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, UnAmerican Podcast.
dan friesen
Also, thank you to Happy Birthday, Elena.
You are now a policy wonk.
This is a week late.
This is a week late?
unidentified
I apologize.
dan friesen
Yeah, I was late on the messages.
Anyway, Happy Birthday, Elena.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Happy Birthday, Elena.
dan friesen
Next, Alfrin with two N's.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Alfred.
dan friesen
Back out next, Heather M. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Heather.
dan friesen
And I'd like to give a little technocrat shout-out to someone who I think has two aliases.
So this is just one shout-out.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Two names.
jordan holmes
So it's Old Dirty.
dan friesen
Dirt McGirt.
jordan holmes
Oh, Dirt McGirt.
Old Dirty Chinese.
dan friesen
Osiris.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say.
Is he back?
dan friesen
No, Knock Knock You Busted, one of our first bits way back on the show.
jordan holmes
One of the beginnings, yeah.
Who's there?
dan friesen
Uh-oh.
unidentified
I don't remember how this bit goes.
dan friesen
And then, yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
You're now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Yes, thank you so much to the both of you.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you so much to the both of you.
dan friesen
It's very complicated to know.
So, Jordan.
What's up?
Shut up.
I'm feeling a little silly today.
unidentified
You're a little punch drunk.
dan friesen
You know what the deal is?
jordan holmes
You're a little dancey.
dan friesen
I've had very little sleep.
Because the neighbors downstairs have been partying.
jordan holmes
Oh, I gotcha.
dan friesen
And I'm a little bit on fumes.
I'm a little bit loose.
Right, right, right.
My connection with the present is tenuous.
jordan holmes
You've got a runner's high kind of feel to it.
unidentified
A little bit, yeah.
dan friesen
I think that there are some college students who live downstairs.
And I will text you and complain about this every now and again.
I can hear them yell singing through the floor.
So they'll just be like...
Like singing wet-ass pussy?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This sucks.
jordan holmes
I'm waiting for you to get a saw and just get a whole circle in the top of your...
dan friesen
I've thought about it.
jordan holmes
Just drop it down.
dan friesen
I am inches away from old man stomping on the floor, but I just can't do it.
And I don't feel right knocking on the door because of COVID and stuff.
I don't want to...
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're gonna need a broom.
dan friesen
That's why I'm a little silly.
But the good news is Alex isn't in a totally centered presence of mind himself on this episode, so we kind of match energies.
jordan holmes
We're all playing on a level playing field.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Here's an Out of Context drop from today's show.
alex jones
That's why we're in this position where there's a bunch of lawyers, a bunch of candy-ass lawyers, covering their ass so much, the Chinese are running the tables on us, getting ready to nuke our ass, because you little chicken-net America-hating bastards have taken over the damn country!
unidentified
*Sigh*
dan friesen
If I were Alex in the position he's in right now, I think I'd probably hate lawyers, too.
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
Yeah, I believe it!
I like this.
I like getting back to where we should be, which is everybody hating on lawyers.
It's been a while since everybody's really agreed to just hate lawyers.
You know what I'm saying?
Sure.
It used to be what we did in our early 90s, late 90s.
dan friesen
I remember Jurassic Park.
jordan holmes
Oh, everybody hated lawyers.
dan friesen
Lawyers were more of a villain in Jurassic Park than the dinosaurs.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
Exactly!
That's the whole thing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know.
Alex is in a weird state.
So, Alex starts the show by talking about how, like, Maybe I shouldn't do the show.
Which is nice.
jordan holmes
That's a good way to start.
dan friesen
It's always a good sign for the show that's about to happen.
jordan holmes
Good start.
alex jones
You know, I learned something during the Trump administration.
I had never tried to be in L.A. or be in New York or be in D.C. to be around the power.
I had never tried to go be a sycophant and end the system.
But I noticed very early on they would work around the clock.
To try to make sure that I didn't have access to the president or access to anybody, high-level government, because I always just thought inform the public about things and then that would percolate up into government and into governance and then we would be able to stand up against tyranny and take action against the globalists.
But it's a balance.
It's a balance.
You also need to target, obviously, people that are in a power structure.
And I'm almost tempted right now with the news I have that I've been working on the last hour to just not do the show today.
It probably would be better if I just call Tucker Carlson, call Steven Crowder, call Roger Stone, and try to get on the phone with Trump.
Because I can get on the phone with him if I need to.
unidentified
Can you?
alex jones
Because I'm not putting the audience down.
We cover so much hardcore stuff here, but we're here every day.
No one kind of takes it serious.
We just drop bomb after bomb after bomb after bomb after bomb after bomb after bomb.
But familiarity breeds contempt.
And I get it.
I have contempt for myself, too.
I don't realize how important we are in the great work we've done.
I understand that.
dan friesen
This is an interesting headspace.
jordan holmes
That is a startling number of words for a very simple concept to express.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Other people have better reach than I do.
I think I need to probably...
I could do better.
But it is also like really shitting on the audience.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
It's super shitting on the audience.
dan friesen
My job.
jordan holmes
You guys are so used to me being the best.
You don't even give a shit how great I am.
You're a bunch of assholes.
dan friesen
You've gotten soft because I'm so good.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because I'm so good.
You don't even have to try.
I wish I was worse at my job so you guys would have to raise your level.
dan friesen
If only I killed time most of the time and then dropped a bomb every now and again and you would know to ambush.
jordan holmes
Exactly, exactly.
That's my problem.
dan friesen
Also, why do you need to get a hold of Trump?
He's not the president anymore.
jordan holmes
No, he's the president.
He's the president.
He's the secret president.
dan friesen
It's very strange.
Very strange.
jordan holmes
You ever been at a comedy show, Dan, where, for whatever reason, the host has just, like, their opening set was just something really weird, and everybody in the audience in all of the comics got the vibe of, like...
This is going to be a weird show.
That's not going to change.
This just happened.
It doesn't matter that there's an hour and 20 minutes left.
For the next hour and a half, it's going to be weird.
dan friesen
Yeah, you've set the energy.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
You could dig out of the hole and we might have some enjoyable whatever.
jordan holmes
But it's still going to be weird.
dan friesen
It's going to be, yeah, it's going to be strange.
jordan holmes
This is what I'm hearing right now.
dan friesen
Yeah, and you hear it a lot too.
Like this tone of like, I don't even want to do the show anymore.
But it's particularly severe on this episode.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
alex jones
Distance makes the heart grow fond.
Familiarity breeds contempt.
A contempt.
So I'm going to go to rebroadcast for a while.
We're going to get real re-ready to shoot the show.
Go live here today.
And then I may not do the show today.
Just because this is too important.
unidentified
I won't do it.
alex jones
We have the smoking gun, absolute, total, complete master plan of the enemy.
We have them by the short hairs completely.
And no one is going to care.
It's always the same.
dan friesen
It's always the same.
All of you listeners, I bring light to the evil conspiracies of the globalists.
I give you all their plans and nothing happens.
I've got to call Tucker Carlson and Steven Crowder.
jordan holmes
I'm going to be honest with you.
I don't think that familiarity always breeds contempt.
dan friesen
Do you know what does, though?
Contempt.
unidentified
When Alex shows this contempt for his audience, that would breed contempt.
jordan holmes
I would also argue...
Continually starting the show with my news is too big for me to do the show is something too familiar for me not to be contemptuous about.
dan friesen
Yes, yes.
There's a lot of intersections of familiarity and contempt in this equation.
So yeah, Alex freaks out.
unidentified
He's just screaming how he wants to quit.
alex jones
But I'm here to tell you we had to get back in the new studio today.
We weren't quite ready to launch.
It's okay.
Not blaming the crew.
That's okay.
it's going to give me some time while they get set up and ready to go and to prepare my broadcast.
Because here's the deal.
sit here and put this information out and just have it nothing happen.
I'll quit today.
I want to walk away from this place so bad.
jordan holmes
Do it.
Do it.
alex jones
Because we have all the evidence of what the enemy's done, and I don't know why people don't have an instinct to victory, but it's incredible.
dan friesen
It was bleeped out.
He didn't say, no one gives a shit.
He is very mad.
He is pretty mad.
jordan holmes
I do.
I mean, there's something weirdly noble about the tenacity he has.
Because every other human being, I think, on the planet would at a certain point go like, well, I've seen every other major news organization release huge information and then change the world.
And I think I've done that literally every day for my entire career, and not once have I changed the world.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Perhaps it is me.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe my radar is busted.
Maybe I can't tell what's big news.
jordan holmes
Maybe it's me.
dan friesen
Maybe I should look a little bit harder at the stories I cover.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Nope.
It's everybody else's fault.
Forever.
dan friesen
Just gotta get so mad.
The end.
jordan holmes
It's everyone else's fault.
Always.
dan friesen
And one of the things I really love about his broadcast style when he gets into these moods is he doesn't...
Say what the news is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why would it?
It's too big.
You can't handle it.
dan friesen
I enjoy that.
jordan holmes
He's too busy being petulant.
dan friesen
I enjoy that because it's really the tell that this is performance on some level.
I think he's really mad.
There's something that is definitely pissing him off.
jordan holmes
For sure.
dan friesen
And it's probably financial and maybe the staff sucks.
jordan holmes
I would imagine it has something to do with lawyers.
dan friesen
Probably lawyers.
The staff probably also is incompetent and not doing the job that he needs them to do.
Yeah.
unidentified
But he's not that mad about what this big news is.
dan friesen
He's clearly still using this breakdown lashing out as a way of like anybody who's watching, oh, they'll tell people that he's saying he's going to quit on air.
jordan holmes
No, it's him being like, yeah.
What am I talking about?
alex jones
What's the big news?
No one cares!
I shouldn't even say it, probably.
At least when I call other people that are influential, they care and look into it and put it out.
I call Paul Watson with this.
Oh, he's busy out on a date or something.
I'm not mad at Paul.
He already wrote like five articles a day.
It's just that I don't have the people.
I don't have the infrastructure.
I don't have anything.
I mean, we could have the keys to put Lucifer into the pit of hell.
No one would care.
They'd be busy getting their freaking nails done.
dan friesen
If I were Paul, I would not appreciate the way Alex talks about him.
He seems to be pretty unprofessional.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Weird to have to work with that guy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's almost like he lashes out at the people around him as well as the audience on a constant basis.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like he's a child.
dan friesen
Almost.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, we get to the big news here.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Alex does let it rip what the story is, and it is bullshit.
alex jones
You understand, ladies and gentlemen, we have the smoking gun of what did the power outage.
100% it was the Department of Energy and their order to keep the power off.
You understand we have that?
And no one gives a damn!
I quit then.
Screw this whole frickin' place, man.
I mean, this is just all out of control.
It's unbelievable.
We have released so many smoking guns, so much proof.
Joe Biden is on TV, on CNN, saying Xi Jinping is doing a good job invading Hong Kong and running giant death camps.
unidentified
Fine!
alex jones
If America wants that, then frickin' have it!
And if you want your power turned off by the Department of Energy, then enjoy it!
I'm gonna run some tapes.
I'm not even sure I'm coming on this.
Screw this whole place.
God, this country is totally out.
God almighty, let it all burn, then.
I mean...
We can't even admit aborting babies is murder, so we don't deserve to have power.
jordan holmes
Tip of the spear.
Tip of the spear.
unidentified
I'm going to lead you into the next era of humanity.
dan friesen
We all deserve to burn.
jordan holmes
Okay, Trump did win, but it's a setback.
I'm still going to lead you into it.
Nope.
Everyone dies!
dan friesen
All this emotional outburst and this childish pageantry, but he's still able to say frickin'.
He's still able to recognize he's on the radio and he doesn't want to get fined.
So I find this a little false.
So also, it appears that Alex is very mad about a document from the Department of Energy that he's been shown, and I would guess that he hasn't read this document.
He claims that it's smoking gun evidence that the power outages in Texas were intentional, which is why he's putting on this shamefully childish display of fake rage at the start of the show.
We'll get into the document as Alex covers it, but at this point, let me just sum things up to say that Alex is entirely wrong about it.
jordan holmes
That's not hard.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That's not hard to believe.
dan friesen
No, but it does, like, the level to which he's wrong about it makes all this outburst really, really funny.
jordan holmes
What I do appreciate.
About all of this is there is...
You can't deny that being your own boss is great, right?
dan friesen
Sure.
I mean, he technically said I quit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Like, that kind of outburst, you just can't get that if you work for someone else.
Wolf Blitzer's not going on TV on election night being like, shit, I don't even...
I don't even know what the results are!
I quit!
dan friesen
Let's imagine that Alex did have a boss, but he had such a good contract that they just couldn't get him out of it.
Like, firing him would require paying out 10 years of his contract or something.
unidentified
Sure, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Something ridiculous.
dan friesen
If he did that and he just yelled, I quit on air and I was his boss, I'd be like, he said it.
jordan holmes
He said it.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
I'm not playing it in court.
I'm playing it in court.
unidentified
He's gone.
jordan holmes
I accept your letter of resignation immediately.
dan friesen
That's the other good thing about not having a boss.
Nothing new size means anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So, like, this is a smoking gun.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
There's another smoking gun, and then there's another.
There's so many.
Alex has so many smoking guns.
jordan holmes
So many smoking guns?
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
This is smoking gun stuff.
And then I've got a bunch of other big, giant smoking guns.
But I'm too angry to do the show right now.
I am too damn angry to do this broadcast right now.
And there's a lot of other stuff going on, so I'm going to just...
And I've got to go find my stack of news from yesterday.
I've got to do a lot of stuff around here.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
I watched somebody walk out of my stack of news.
Oh, no, you've got the stack.
Well, I'll go get it myself.
But I'm not even bitching anymore.
I just can't do this six, seven days a week.
And just with the public like zombies everywhere.
Just like walking into globalist machine gun fire.
And then that weird reanimated corpse, Biden stumbling around up there.
Just all of it.
It's a joke.
Because people are unconscious from watching TV and playing on their phones all day.
dan friesen
Ah, that's it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's the problem.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The public.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
He's having a bad day.
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
Yeah!
You know, I can't help but feel like I've been there before.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
And what comforts me all the time is when I just go, oh no, I'm just an asshole.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, like, everybody else is asleep and everybody...
No, no, no.
I'm just being a dick.
My bad, guys.
I'm an asshole.
dan friesen
I just...
I'm having a bad day.
Something didn't, like...
You know, I got overcharged for something.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Maybe I'm taking it out on the people around me subconsciously.
I'm sorry.
jordan holmes
And you tell them, and they're like, you know what, I get it.
I've been in that experience.
Yeah, it happens, and then you're just like, we've got to de-escalate.
dan friesen
For Alex, it's an essential piece of his showmanship.
Exactly.
He's dwelling in that place.
He's having a bad day.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that means everyone's got to die.
alex jones
People are unconscious from watching TV and playing on their phones all day.
It manipulates all the dopamine receptors where people think that's the real world, and in the real world they're all, ooh, ooh, ooh, like this.
And I just don't want to be around this anymore.
Maybe Bill Gates is right.
Just kill everybody.
But use neutron bombs at least and kill them quick, man.
Don't mutate them and torture them and dumb them down.
jordan holmes
But Bill Gates likes that.
alex jones
Bill Gates, get a deal with the globalists and start neutron bombing the public.
Just neutron bomb everybody, then we don't kill the Earth that the humans are getting rid of.
Maybe he's right.
Maybe I should go work for Gates and just come up with a neutron bomb plan.
I know Bertrand Russell had one before they called it a neutron bomb.
jordan holmes
Do you know anything about neutrons?
alex jones
Maybe that's the answer.
Gotta start over.
You know, God did it, so I guess we're just imitating God.
Maybe I should just salute Bill Gates right now on air.
Pledge allegiance to him.
Nobody else cares.
jordan holmes
Do it.
alex jones
At least he actually wants to run something.
jordan holmes
It's me, the devil.
Do it.
You must.
alex jones
I have the giant news, but no one cares, of course.
I'm serious.
I don't want to fit here.
Just no one cares.
Maybe I'll freak out.
Maybe I'll cut a few fingers off with loppers.
And this is really important.
This will bring down the globalists.
Here, let me cut my pinky off.
Oh, now you pay attention?
The Department of Energy on record told Texas, you can't produce more power.
I have the damn document with a direct link to them.
They'll just have Snopes say it isn't real.
Hell, we want to be able to pull it up in there probably.
So, anyways, I'm going to go to rebroadcast for a while.
I'm going to try to settle down.
And then I'm going to come back and lay all this out for you.
It's so incredible.
dan friesen
It's incredible.
jordan holmes
That wasn't a display.
unidentified
That was a show.
dan friesen
That was a baby.
Man, you know what would suck?
It would really suck if his conspiracies were actually true.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Because now the movement about these things are so beholden to him.
Imagine having to fall in line behind him.
jordan holmes
Oh, brutal.
dan friesen
Oh, this guy's onto something.
jordan holmes
Brutal.
dan friesen
This whiny little asshole.
jordan holmes
You know who...
dan friesen
Thankfully he's not.
jordan holmes
You know who goes down in history for being a hero?
People who weather adversity.
You know, when you think of Nelson Mandela and you think of being put in prison for all those years and then...
Not just surviving through it, but then going on to help found a fucking country for a real opportunity at equality.
dan friesen
But you read his speech?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
No one cares.
unidentified
I don't even know.
jordan holmes
I don't even know if I want to do this.
You guys imprison me for 25 years, and I don't even know if I want to help any of you people.
dan friesen
No one cares.
jordan holmes
You know what?
How about you all are owned by white supremacists?
How about that?
Huh?
unidentified
Huh?
jordan holmes
I quit.
No one gives a shit about me.
dan friesen
Bishop Desmond Tutu's an asshole.
Yeah, yeah, very stupid.
unidentified
That's who I want to follow into the war.
dan friesen
Alex is a noble, noble leader.
So I think part of his anger is coming from a place of, like, he wasn't on this sooner.
Because, like, this document was available before.
And he could have been covering the story this way before.
Instead, he had the sort of childish, oh, it was the windmills narrative and what have you.
And I think that's where a little bit of this anger comes from.
alex jones
Before I went live on air...
I got a bunch of extra news that I already was told by a very close person to me, and I dropped the ball on Monday and just said, I've been told by inside sources in Texas power plants that the feds ordered them not to increase power.
I should have followed up on that.
I already knew there was those agreements.
I already knew about those documents.
I should have gotten the current ones.
I should have found out, well, let me see the directive.
Instead, I just went and poured another glass of wine.
And sat with a fire in the dark.
And then, son of a bitch, a whistleblower inside the Department of Energy contacted someone that works here and said, why is Jones not covering this?
No one else is.
And I read it 20 minutes before I went on air and I already knew all that was real.
We went and checked.
It's on the Department of Energy website.
And it was like being punched in the chest and the stomach over and over again to read, for sure they raped us, for sure they're doing it!
I am so frickin' pissed, man!
I can't take much more of these people!
And the way it's written is all slimy!
dan friesen
The way it's written is all slimy!
jordan holmes
What is wrong with this man?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I'm not sure exactly what the definition of slimy documents are, but I guess for Alex it's when the document says the opposite of what you need it to say, and so you have to argue that when they say yes, they really mean no.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Just slimy.
jordan holmes
Slimy as shit.
dan friesen
Super slimy.
jordan holmes
Super slimy.
dan friesen
Also, I think that Alex...
jordan holmes
Young Thug thinks it's slimy, Dan.
dan friesen
I think Alex is really using the term whistleblower too loosely here.
This is a publicly available document on the Department of Energy's website, so I would say that this is a tipster, if anything.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
Maybe someone who's doing Alex's work for him.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Maybe somebody who's just been to that website.
dan friesen
That's not a whistleblower.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
The document in question is titled Order Number 202-21-1.
It's four pages long, so there's no way I believe Alex read it.
And it's really easy to find, and if you do find it, what you'll read is an order that is designed to increase the electric capacity of the Texas power grid in order to deal with the emergency that the state is going through.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
On February 14th, quote, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, an independent system operator whose service territory includes 90% of the electric customers in the state of Texas, filed a request for emergency order under Section 202C of the Federal Power Act.
The beginning of the document lays out how ERCOT had foreseen the possible issue and that, quote, this weather event is expected to result in record winter electricity demand that will exceed even ERCOT's most extreme seasonal load forecasts.
To try to adjust for this, ERCOT attempted to maximize energy generation by doing things like having the Railroad Commission of Texas put out an emergency order that, quote, specified increasing the priority of gas supplies to ERCOT generators.
One of the main things that this order is about is that the electricity generation that they were needing to engage in would almost certainly not be possible, quote, Right, right, right.
On page two of the order, it says, Okay,
jordan holmes
so the document Alex Jones is saying is them saying you can't have more power is them saying, yes, you can have more power.
dan friesen
With some limitations.
jordan holmes
Well, sure.
I mean, you can't destroy the Earth.
dan friesen
Right.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
The order is the acting Secretary of Energy replying to ERCOT, saying that they have permission to break regulations up to a point, basically.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The order literally says, quote, Yeah, that's great.
It's pretty simple.
This is just an order where ERCOT asked for permission to wiggle around some regulation in order to be able to meet the increased demand of the energy emergency.
The Department of Energy replied that they could do so, but that wiggle room only existed for the purposes of reestablishing reliability.
They couldn't just flout all federal pollution regulations, but...
Some be less rigidly enforced, given the human need that existed.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we don't want to destroy the Earth, but people are freezing to death, so let's find a better place than...
dan friesen
Let's find a way to make this work.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
There's nothing here, quite honestly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it doesn't sound like it.
dan friesen
Which is why Alex is doing this high school drama club play about how serious and smoke and gun it all is.
It's actually a document that says the opposite of what he claims it does, and because that is the case, he has to claim that it's slimy.
This is the level of work that he's doing, and it really makes you wonder why he doesn't just quit.
Like, this is nothing.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Because he's his own boss, I guess.
dan friesen
Slimy.
Slimy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he doesn't want to start all over again.
dan friesen
Anyway, I don't think he's even read it, so I wouldn't expect him to understand some of these dynamics and all of this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But I think that he realizes, like, I don't know if I can really even...
Fucking explain this to the audience in a way that's going to make them motivated.
jordan holmes
This might be too hard for me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I better call Tucker.
alex jones
Oh, boy.
I can get more done if I call a bunch of influential people I know.
And tell them to look into this and let them break it, because I don't care about breaking it, and then it will actually have an effect.
Instead, the audience is great, but I say so much stuff, people just hear it and just think, oh, that's another thing Alex just said.
No, it's not.
It's the biggest freaking smoking gun I ever saw.
To quote Robert Duvall in Network, it's a big titted hit, okay?
I mean, this thing would hurt them so freaking bad.
I hate the New World Order.
I can't stand Bill Gates.
I can't stand Warren Buffet.
I can't stand Ted Turner.
I can't stand Barack Obama.
I can't stand him anymore!
unidentified
I want him off my back now, you mothers!
alex jones
And then I sit there and I read exactly what I was told by my family that works in these damn plants, that they're ordered to go at zero or quarter power.
Under the frickin' federal government because Biden put him back under the son of a bitch two weeks ago.
Now, we all knew that.
dan friesen
Did we?
Did we all know that?
jordan holmes
Did we all know that?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I feel like we did not know that.
dan friesen
No.
And I don't know.
I read this document.
I still don't know it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, man.
You know, here's my pitch for Alex.
And this is going to sound crazy.
But he's sick of being under the backs of Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Ted Turner for some reason.
Join the socialist, buddy.
We want to try and get rid of these rich people and remove their power.
Come on, man!
dan friesen
You want to get rid of them?
jordan holmes
Let's go!
dan friesen
No, because socialists are working for Ted Turner.
They just don't know it.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, how about this?
unidentified
How about this?
jordan holmes
What if Ted Turner...
Here's my cell.
Here's my cell back to you, Alex.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What if Ted Turner thinks we're working for him, but we're actually working for our own goals using his money and power that he thinks he's bought us with?
dan friesen
Another possibility would be move to Antarctica.
jordan holmes
Okay, now that's also a good one.
Alex, you can also go to Antarctica.
dan friesen
So, one of the features of Alex's coverage of this document from the Department of Energy is one of those strategies he uses a lot.
I call it making things up.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a good one.
alex jones
And guess what's in the document?
The Department of Energy told Texas, under federal law, you'll be prosecuted.
dan friesen
There's no mention of prosecution.
The relevant part of the order that Alex is talking about is as follows.
Consistent with good utility practice, ERCOT shall exhaust all reasonably and practically available resources, including available imports, demand response, and identified behind-the-meter generation resources selected to minimize increase in emissions, to the extent that such resources provide support to maintain grid reliability prior to dispatching these specified resources.
This makes total sense, and Alex is just writing a story about it to make things seem more nefarious, when in reality, this is very much a document that is the Department of Save lives now!
jordan holmes
Save lives now.
dan friesen
The determination of when it's necessary to put on all these other things, that's at the discretion of ERCOT.
Yeah.
unidentified
That is not, that's left up to them.
dan friesen
Yep.
And so, like, behind the meter generation resources for what it's worth is, like, solar and batteries and stuff like that.
So, I don't know.
I just don't see what he's saying.
jordan holmes
I don't find this very compelling at all.
dan friesen
No.
alex jones
Texas always had more power than anybody.
We used to supply, before Obama came in, the states all around us.
Remember that?
Our grid supplied much of the country.
That's what we were proud of.
Remember?
The US under Trump got to where it was the biggest supplier of energy in the world for the first time since the 50s?
dan friesen
Again, this is just something Alex is making up.
The power grid in Texas specifically exists in such a way as to not supply power to other states to avoid interstate energy sales regulation from the federal government.
Someone with the pretend persona that Alex has should really understand that dynamic well and be proud of it.
Also, Alex is just reporting something Trump lied about and pretending it's real.
Trump basically lied in his State of the Union speech about how, for the first time in 65 years, we're net exporters of energy.
But that's not true.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Anyway, prices for energy are going up.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, yeah, I imagine so.
alex jones
Reuters.
Texas wholesale electric prices spiked more than 10,000% amid outages.
And what does this little sweet document show that I'll show you the print of next segment?
They had to first only buy from outside sources, including available imports and demand response.
You look those terms up, that means demand response is a term meaning outside power when you don't have enough.
Demand response is a key term.
It means you buy from available imports.
These are all lawyer terms.
dan friesen
Once again...
jordan holmes
I think that one's just an economics term.
dan friesen
Well, and Alex is just making things up because he knows that his audience doesn't care and they're never gonna check on anything.
jordan holmes
Why would they?
dan friesen
Demand response, according to Alex, is lawyer speak for, I mean, you gotta buy outside power.
He knows this because he looked it up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is made up out of thin air.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Demand response is an energy efficiency strategy that involves giving customers the ability to adjust their electricity usage away from peak hours by doing things like offering cut rates at other times when the burden on the electric grid is lower or putting small tariffs on power during peak periods.
This Department of Energy document is saying that in addition to using available reserves, demand response strategies should be employed where possible to maintain the functioning of the power grid.
jordan holmes
Oh, so you mean incentivizing people to spread out the usage of power?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
When possible.
jordan holmes
I'm fairly certain that you did just say, buy all your power from China.
dan friesen
Sure.
It would be easy for someone to hear me make this correction of Alex and say that I'm just nitpicking and fact-checking him pointlessly, but there's a really serious phenomenon that I'm trying to illustrate here.
Alex Jones constantly pretends to know things.
He has a consistent pattern of just making up definitions of words and details about news stories, and then pretending that the thing he's making up is the product of research or investigation.
It's important to recognize that he does this about the small details of his day-to-day conspiracies in the same way he does with the larger worldview-level conspiracies.
His workflow is essentially like watching a shitty improv show rooted in terrible racist politics.
He uses headlines and words he skims in stories as the suggestions from the audience that he takes and then he riffs a scene out of it.
I would implore anyone who takes him seriously to consider that dynamic and to critically engage with the things he's saying.
You'll almost always find him fabricating details about the stories that he's covering in order to make them fit his predetermined narrative and worldview, which he absolutely wouldn't need to do if he wasn't full of shit.
The Public Utility Commission of Texas is opening an investigation into possible price gouging, and I would guess that if they find companies that were engaging in that, then the customers will not be responsible for paying those outrageous rates.
There's one thing to keep in mind, however.
A small number of people in Texas use a company called Gritty to provide their electricity, which operates on wholesale prices.
Most people use providers who have fixed rates, but going through a company like Gritty actually saves people money on their electric bill generally.
The downside is in a situation like this, their rates are not fixed and they can skyrocket.
Even so, I would guess that these people won't be stuck with these exorbitant bills and the solution will be reached.
I find it hard to believe.
But I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
At this point in time, it's safer to assume that people are going to get fucked over in some massive fashion.
dan friesen
Possibly, possibly, but I would guess that there will be some forgiveness.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, something.
dan friesen
But the examples that you see are these really, really high bills, and the ones that I've been able to see, and someone could correct me if I'm wrong, but the ones that I've been able to find being reported are wholesale prices, which are not the majority of electric users in the state of Texas.
Most people have a fixed rate, and obviously their prices will go up too, but not...
Per, like, the rate.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
They will need to use more electricity to heat their house because it's colder outside.
unidentified
Right, yes.
dan friesen
But they won't, you know, that's just a natural phenomenon.
You know, and, like, I mean, just price gouging is illegal.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, like, if that's going on, people will get to the bottom of it.
jordan holmes
Will help.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Alex, you know, he's got this document that he's lying about.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And he feels really excited about this lie.
He's pretty pumped about it.
And he's like, you know what?
These fucking people in Congress in Texas and our governor, they need to lie about this document, too.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
alex jones
And all Ted Cruz has got to do to change the subject, all Greg Abbott has to do to redeem himself, all John Corner has to do is come out and read this on air, and it's game over.
By the way, I've had my problems with Ted Cruz, but I think he's a good constitutionalist.
Cancun is like going out to get a cheeseburger in Texas.
It's an hour and 45 minute flight.
His daughters were going down there.
Why do I care if he flew down there with his daughters to get out of this hell when it turned out his power was off?
My power was off a bunch.
My water just came back today.
Most folks still don't have water.
jordan holmes
They're out of school.
alex jones
Why not go?
See, we live by Mexico, folks.
We go down there.
But I'm not even defending that.
How is that the news?
How is he horrible and the Democrats are all, oh look, he doesn't care about you.
He didn't want the lockdowns.
He didn't want to wear the mask.
It's not like he's for a lockdown and he's caught getting out of one.
dan friesen
Ladies and gentlemen, Alex Jones with a master class in intentionally missing the point.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
Remarkable.
jordan holmes
I think the point could very easily be made that he doesn't see that as something very difficult to do because he too is rich.
dan friesen
Could be.
jordan holmes
Could have something to do with that.
dan friesen
Could be.
jordan holmes
Could be one of those things where rich people don't really understand why poor people get mad.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think that it's a really interesting way that Alex engages with Ted Cruz and his responsibilities as an elected official.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
As opposed to the responsibilities of other enemy elected officials.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, you know.
dan friesen
It's weird.
jordan holmes
Just because you don't need to be there doesn't mean you're...
dan friesen
Sure.
So Alex is mad at ERCOT.
Now, I should say that he doesn't know that it's the Electric Reliability Council of Texas.
He doesn't really know what it is.
He seems to think that ERCOT is basically Enron.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
I get what you say.
dan friesen
He thinks it's a company.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course he does.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's weird.
alex jones
And I'm just reading it.
It made me so angry that I almost turned this desk over.
Seriously, man.
You know what?
That's a normal response to learning.
They're not just robbing our future.
They're blaming us.
They're starving people.
They're bankrupting all these communities.
They killed over 50 people.
And then now they're going to rape us more and are telling us permanent blackouts because the feds put ERCOT in control because you can't have the state managing it.
dan friesen
The feds put ERCOT.
jordan holmes
The feds put ERCOT in control.
dan friesen
Alex has no idea what that is.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
He seems to think it's like a power company as opposed to being the management entity for Texas's power grid, which is run by a board of directors that's overseen by the Public Utility Commission of Texas and the state's legislature.
The public utility commissioners responsible for overseeing ERCOT are directly appointed by Texas' governor.
There could almost be no system imaginable where the state would have more direct control over the power system, other than one where the state itself runs all the power plants itself, which I can't imagine Alex advocating for.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Alex knows nothing about the subjects he's covering, and he's just making up a story to tell the audience that fits the show's larger themes and narratives.
None of this is based in reality at all.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
dan friesen
It's outrageous.
jordan holmes
You don't get to care.
He doesn't get to care.
You already did the coronavirus thing where you denied all of that shit.
You don't get to be like, oh, how dare they do this now?
Nah, fuck off.
dan friesen
It's remarkable how everything is a conspiracy, isn't it?
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex gets back to this document.
And this is kind of, I guess, one of the other reasons I'm in a nice mood beyond the sort of slap happiness and sleep deprivedness.
jordan holmes
Because he's talking about the docs.
dan friesen
He's talking about a document.
Yeah, and I always like it when we can get grounded.
jordan holmes
You like the docs.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
In the ERCOT region, that's Texas, the generating unit specified resources that this order pertains to are listed on the Order 202-21-1 resource list as described below.
And it's, oh, hydroelectric, and it's, oh, this.
It takes them a week to turn a coal plant up.
Didn't let them do that.
dan friesen
So Alex is reading this part of the document that he's skimming, and it should come as no surprise, but he's just making shit up.
The resource list that's referenced in that Department of Energy order is available, and it's easy to find.
It's just a list of power generation plants in Texas that are relevant to the order.
Each plant is listed, and the third column in the spreadsheet is the type of energy.
That they use.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Literally zero are solar or windmills or hydroelectric, because that's not what the order pertains to.
jordan holmes
It doesn't seem like those would be important to this particular one.
dan friesen
These are all natural gas, lignite, bituminous coal, or distillate fuel oil power generators, which are being given special permission to operate in ways that would exceed environmental rules, specifically only when doing so would be needed to maintain the reliability of the grid.
Alex hasn't read the actual document, nor has he seen this resource.
He's literally just making up what he thinks the story is, then repeating that to his audience as a fact.
That's what he does.
He makes up stories.
He's a storyteller.
jordan holmes
Also, this should make it more than abundantly clear.
We have an order saying that these evil power companies can destroy the Earth in order to save lives, but all the renewable energies are just like, eh, you guys keep on going.
Like, it seems very obvious that one of these is a serious polluter destroying the world, and the other one, they're like, okay, well, you guys are fine.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex is, you know, again, is really confused about ERCOT and what have you and the relationship with the federal government.
The feds are in charge, man.
jordan holmes
I think a lot of people are confused as to how this happened.
alex jones
We're going to come back and read all this for you.
It gets really bad right here.
It's really, really bad.
But the point is, the feds are in control.
The feds wouldn't let them up the power until the power grid was going down and then limited what they could do.
And then sat back and said, Texas is a bunch of idiots, a bunch of hayseeds.
unidentified
I'm watching Hee Haw right now.
alex jones
Joe Biden is going to take me over.
Joe Biden knows how to cook a possum.
Oh yeah!
dan friesen
I'm not sure that's what's happening.
jordan holmes
I'm fairly certain that I have heard many comments on Biden's ability to or to not cook possum.
The jury's out from what I've heard.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Some people like it, some people don't.
dan friesen
Yeah, and let me be just above board and totally clear.
Any kind of Texan bashing that's going on, I think, is wrong.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think it's misguided.
jordan holmes
It's counterproductive, at least.
dan friesen
To the extent that that is going on, I don't know what extent it is.
I have not really been exposed to much of it myself.
Sure.
unidentified
I imagine if I spent more time on Twitter, Yeah, get them out of here.
dan friesen
That said, what Alex is doing is trying to take valid criticisms about how Texas, their power grid is operated, and then he turns that into people saying that Texans just watch Hee Haw all day and cook possum.
He doesn't have a response to the arguments about the grid because he doesn't actually even understand the conversation the people are having.
jordan holmes
Not even a little bit.
dan friesen
But he can get his audience personally offended if he makes the whole thing about how the coastal elites think people in the middle of the country are stupid.
That's pretty much the tactic that you see being employed here.
jordan holmes
It's infuriating.
I do not appreciate that he is talking about a problem that is almost entirely the result of a state desiring more than anything else for the federal government to get out of their fucking business and...
Yeah, I mean, I think that...
dan friesen
I think that there's a piece of it that you can probably blame on the organizational structure of the disconnection from the interstate sales of energy.
But also, I think that you also have to be very careful with that because of how severe this storm is.
jordan holmes
Oh, totally.
dan friesen
Even in ideal circumstances, there would have been power outages.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
Perhaps not to the extent that we have seen.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And maybe not as severe as we've seen.
A storm like that in Texas is something that is just a recipe for there's going to be a lot of trouble.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
I'm just saying that if the reports of them being that close to having no power for months are true, that is 100%.
Look.
There are going to be power outages.
They happen here, they happen everywhere, and it can be dealt with.
But if you have a system that is like, well, we were a James Bond moment away from fucking never having power for the next year, then, yeah, you're done fucked up in the planning somewhere along the line.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it's really tough to say if that problem is essentially related to The non-interstate energy sales.
jordan holmes
Also, fair point.
dan friesen
Or if it's just unrelated mismanagement or something.
jordan holmes
Entirely possible.
dan friesen
I don't know enough to say for sure, but I think that those things are important to tease out before you make too much of a judgment.
But it does seem like whatever it is, it's something.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, at the very least, it would be hard to imagine...
If there was some sort of unified or greater area of power control where it wouldn't be able to be transported effectively much, much better.
To the point where we would have a better response time at the very least, you know?
dan friesen
It may be.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But who knows?
For now, all we do know is that Alex overprepares for his show.
jordan holmes
That sounds true.
alex jones
I want to be totally clear with you.
I massively prepared for the show.
I have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 stacks of news that I skimed over and read and I've not even hit.
Can't believe you counted all the way up to 16. One story, a segment, and they go, oh, coming up is this.
jordan holmes
No!
alex jones
No, I will not sit here and watch the Department of Energy override Trump's executive orders and tell Texas they couldn't increase power when I have the smoking gun!
I just want to see this all over the news.
I want to see them go to prison.
dan friesen
I've got bad news.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's going to be trouble.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's probably not going to happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, good luck, buddy.
dan friesen
Alex is personally offended because this is about Texas.
jordan holmes
Yes, of course.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And what he wants you to know is that Texas...
jordan holmes
What about it?
dan friesen
You look at me?
jordan holmes
I am looking at you.
dan friesen
Straight on.
jordan holmes
Right on in the eyes.
dan friesen
Texas.
jordan holmes
What about it?
dan friesen
Those people take action.
And Alex might have the worst example that he uses.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Think it's a mistake that this operation comes out of Texas?
Think it's a mistake Kennedy got his head blown off down here?
People are ready to take action down here, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm not defending what happened to Kennedy.
I'm just saying the New World War is playing with a lot of fire.
And they take our kindness as weakness because they're stupid.
Because they haven't studied history and they have no idea about people dedicated to an idea, dedicated to their family, dedicated to God, dedicated to war, to defend it if need be.
dan friesen
Why did you say that?
jordan holmes
Look, Texans, we'll fucking kill the president.
We'll do it right fucking now.
dan friesen
That's weird.
I thought it was a...
jordan holmes
Right now.
dan friesen
I guess...
jordan holmes
If there's one thing I know about the South, it's that they murder presidents, Dan.
dan friesen
Huh.
This adds a wrinkle to the conspiracy, I guess.
jordan holmes
I suppose.
dan friesen
So it had to have been a Texan conspiracy.
unidentified
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
This is interesting.
jordan holmes
It was not the mob.
It was not the Russians.
It was not a single lone actor.
It was the Lone Star State.
dan friesen
George H.W. Bush is from Connecticut.
unidentified
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
jordan holmes
This could be a tough one to sell.
dan friesen
Do you think it's a coincidence that InfoWars comes out of the same state where Kennedy was killed?
What?
jordan holmes
I don't think it is.
I don't think it's a coincidence.
dan friesen
I was hoping it was a coincidence.
jordan holmes
Nope, it's not.
dan friesen
I thought Ted Cruz's dad did it.
jordan holmes
No, Alex Jones's dad did it.
He was a CIA dentist.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
He shot him with a tooth.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
The magic bullet was actually a tooth.
jordan holmes
No, it was an exploding tooth.
It was a dune situation.
dan friesen
Yep, totally.
That's Dr. Jones's calling card.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So, Alex goes to calls, and not a lot of these are worth even mentioning.
Although, I will say that this next call is probably the saddest.
I've been listening to Alex in a long time.
unidentified
With my three kids, I live close to the Memorial City Mall, right in the Houston suburbs, right in the thick of this whole thing, and I just want to say thank you to you guys because there is not a chance I would have gotten through this with myself, my wife, my three kids without two things.
First thing, the water filtration system is incredible.
Anybody listening, please, please get prepared.
You do not want to be a victim to this government, to this squeeze.
Thank Infowars and Alex and this entire crew because every day you guys get uncomfortable and you have the uncomfortable conversation.
And you teach us here on the ground to be uncomfortable and to talk to people and to have the uncomfortable conversation.
And the reason why I love you so much, Alex, is because you're real.
You say when you make mistakes.
You say when something got by you, when the Q thing.
You're just a real.
Infowars is as real as it gets in America.
And I can tell you, listening to you guys from my generator power this week, you kept my connection to humans.
You kept my connection to God, Alex.
And I'm telling you, I have been freezing my butt off, me and my family, in 40-degree weather all week long.
But I can promise you, every morning when I wake up, I was going to Bandot Video, waiting for your reports, because you guys keep our connection to God and our human connection.
alex jones
Well, bro, that's so beautiful.
That's exactly what John, the boom I'm ready, said.
Doesn't matter, Jones.
You blew up earlier.
That's real.
They're looking for red blood.
And that's it.
All I've got is I'm real.
dan friesen
Ooh, boy.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
That just bummed me out so much.
Everything that dude was saying is so wrong.
jordan holmes
Wow.
Just brutal.
dan friesen
Just.
What's the uncomfortable conversation?
jordan holmes
I don't know, but that guy has just enumerated a crime.
What he has just described is somebody so destroying his mind that he is enthralled to the point of death.
dan friesen
The idea that in a disaster...
I will say that this is one of the situations where...
Some of Alex's products actually probably would be quite useful.
Like, I take less issue with this guy saying, I bought a water filtration system and it came in handy.
jordan holmes
I was like, hey man, how about that?
It paid off!
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
So that I take less issue with.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But the idea that in a disaster, in this scenario that he's in, he goes to the generator to try and find Alex's videos.
To keep his connection with humanity and God is just dark.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is a dark thought.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is a dark thought.
dan friesen
Especially when, like, okay, your connection to humanity just quit earlier in the show.
jordan holmes
No shit.
dan friesen
Your connection to humanity said, fuck this, Bill Gates should neutron bomb everybody.
jordan holmes
I mean, it just makes you, like, you think about all the horrible shit that's happened in the past, and you're like, why would people follow that guy?
And you're like, eh?
People follow any old asshole, apparently.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I believe the expression they used to say in Missouri was, it takes all kinds.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it takes all kinds.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So...
jordan holmes
Why would anyone listen to a 13-year-old pope?
And then you get that guy and you're like, well, yeah, I guess believe whatever you want, man.
dan friesen
So I gotta ask you, I don't know a whole lot about this 13-year-old Pope.
Was that the young Pope?
Was that that HBO show?
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
That was what?
What's his face?
dan friesen
I don't know.
unidentified
British dude?
dan friesen
Was he the type who told his audience to prepare kill lists?
jordan holmes
Yeah, actually he was.
dan friesen
Oh, he and Alex have that in common.
jordan holmes
I believe you.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, I don't have words to describe to you how serious the times are.
I know you already know that.
And I'm not saying be violent either, because that'll be misconstrued and used against us, and the people we go after are just minions.
They don't count.
unidentified
But...
jordan holmes
They don't count?
alex jones
The globalists.
And the people Bill Gates controls need to know, in not a threatening way, they're assaulting us.
They need to know that we're aware of what they're doing, and that God is going to hold them accountable, and we're going to pray for God to bring vengeance upon them.
And that as they officially assault us, as they come after us, that we reserve the right to defend ourselves.
jordan holmes
He said threateningly.
alex jones
I don't shoot my mouth off.
I'm not Mr. Big Badass.
You know, talk about how I'm a big leader of the military and all this.
I'm not.
I just, I can't sit there and lie to you and tell you that you're not being assaulted.
And so, like Santa Claus, you should be researching who's been naughty and who's been nice.
Who's going to get coal in their stocking and who's going to get little...
Bicycle or toys or candy.
So, that's where we are.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
Your calls are straight ahead.
dan friesen
So, Alex talks a lot about this idea of making kill lists.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, like, I don't know.
I don't know if it would hold up in court or anything, but I could see somebody, like, trying to kill Bill Gates or something and then being like...
I was advised that he was trying to kill everyone with a vaccine.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that we needed...
It was defensive, really.
He was attacking us.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, who told you that?
Alex Jones every day?
jordan holmes
Simply every day.
dan friesen
I don't know if it's the kind of thing that he could get in trouble for legally, but spiritually or just morally.
Yeah.
He's doing everything that would lead someone to do the thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Just the thing hasn't happened.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I would just say that it's time to write a sequel to Miracle on 34th Street where Alex claims that Santa is making kill lists out of this naughty and nice list.
dan friesen
Listen, we all know it's in the white papers.
jordan holmes
No, I'm Santa Claus.
I'm real.
Oh, we know you're fucking real.
You're killing all of our children.
unidentified
They got kill teams of reindeer going around and elves.
jordan holmes
Why's that nose so blood red, huh, Santa?
dan friesen
Yeah, so we get another caller here, and he actually brings up an interesting point that I have an answer for.
unidentified
There were people in Oklahoma without power freezing to death, you know, because we got hit with the same storm you guys got hit with.
And they're sitting in the cold, freezing, and we've got a National Basketball Association team called Oklahoma City Thunder, and they had the whole arena with power.
You know, they played their basketball game, and that was all good and fun while people sat in the cold, freezing.
alex jones
That's what technocracy is, is they go, oh, downtown Austin stays open, ERCOT stays open, but I'm in the dark for six days.
dan friesen
So some of the places that retained power during the Texas storm seemed a little bit strange, but a lot of it's actually really easy to understand if you take the time to care.
A lot of it had to do with sections of the grid where essential services were located, like hospitals, being a higher priority than ones that, say, didn't contain hospitals.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
This could easily create the impression that there was power in downtown Austin, but not in outlying areas.
But if you look at the proximity of downtown to not only the Capitol Building, but also Del Seton Medical Center, All kinds of warming centers and St. David's Medical Center.
You start to understand how it might be impossible to retain power to those buildings without also keeping power on for some 6th Street businesses that maybe you're like, why are they?
Why do they have a light?
jordan holmes
Also, it appears that you do correctly understand why people are mad at Ted Cruz.
Oh, is the basketball being played, but people are dying?
Oh, are you flying to Mexico, but people are dying?
Yeah, there we go.
Now you get it.
dan friesen
And to be fair, I would guess a similar thing is going on in Oklahoma City, where the Thunder play at the Chesapeake Energy Arena, which is within walking distance of the county courthouse, the county detention center, and St. Anthony Hospital, as well as the entire University of Oklahoma.
unidentified
Yeah, but, you know, everybody needs to suffer equally.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I mean, it's a pretty simple explanation.
I just don't understand why people get mad or confused about things that are, like, they're pretty easy to understand.
jordan holmes
Well, because it would be hard.
dan friesen
Fine.
So, Alex has Max Keiser on, and they just talk about Bitcoin.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex gets really mad about how...
jordan holmes
He could have bought Bitcoin when it was like $5 and now it's over $50,000?
dan friesen
Well, the thing is...
jordan holmes
Or whatever it is?
dan friesen
Max, 10 years ago, offered him 10,000 Bitcoin.
And Alex is like, how much would that be now?
He's like, $60 million.
jordan holmes
Oh, it would be a lot, buddy.
It would be a lot of money, buddy.
dan friesen
I was like, I missed the boat on that.
jordan holmes
Oh, you might have missed the boat on that.
dan friesen
There was one funny clip, and I actually wish I would have pulled this, but Max's whole interview is just, who gives a shit?
It's just talking about how great Bitcoin is.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And Alex being like, I'm ambivalent.
Stop giving out your web address.
Makes it sound like you're a sponsor.
But when Alex is talking about how much this Bitcoin would be worth now, Max Geiser is...
Makes some kind of joke about, like, ah, that's why you've got to sell these boner pills.
jordan holmes
It was really dishy.
Nicely done, Max.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Max Geiser has a freedom, a joie de vivre, that is kind of enjoyable, but it also makes his interviews not really all that worthwhile for our show.
But after he leaves, Joel Skousen comes in.
Oh, shit.
Joel Skousen is a mess.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He is a weirdo.
And I just have four clips of Skousen's interview.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That are four reasons why you should not take Joel Skousen seriously.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
The first is that he also, along with Alex, seems to think that ERCOT is like a federal agency or a company.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
They want to set themselves up as the saviors.
I think it's important, Joel.
Do you agree with me?
The evidence shows that it was federal mismanagement and control with ERCOT removing the state from the process that took one of our best-powered systems and made it one of our worst.
joel skousen
No, I completely agree with you, Alex.
unidentified
Why?
joel skousen
It was the federal problem, the federal edicts.
dan friesen
So, shouldn't you correct him?
If you know that ERCOT is a Texas-specific...
If you understand the dynamics at play, you shouldn't go along with Alex saying literally the opposite.
jordan holmes
No, I completely agree with you, Dan.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
What it is that he's saying is 100%.
dan friesen
So that's not good, and I'm maybe just not going to go ahead and listen to anything that Joel has to say about the storm and the power grid if he doesn't know this basic.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
That would be a problem.
I don't think I would want to learn calculus from somebody who doesn't know algebra.
dan friesen
Now here's where it gets weird.
Reason number two not to take Joel Skousen seriously.
Where do you think fossil fuels and oil comes from?
jordan holmes
Oh, God, no.
Personally?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
I think it comes from God.
And he put them there about 10,000 years ago to trick us into thinking...
alex jones
Even mainline petroleum geologists now, it's becoming recognized that oil is not fossil fuel.
What is it?
joel skousen
Well...
I'm afraid I have to get theological here.
This was part of the creation of the earth.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
joel skousen
You know, the Lord in his creation actually put oil deposits.
Look, if fossil fuels exist, if you create oil from deteriorating animals and you look at all of the trillions and trillions and trillions of tons of oil, which would only represent...
A tiny fraction of the decaying bodies of any dinosaurs, you would have had to have dinosaurs 100 feet deep all over the entire Earth.
dan friesen
Plants.
Marine life.
jordan holmes
Wow, dude.
This is a man who knows what's up.
No, Dan.
Carbon only comes from all dinosaurs.
dan friesen
Thank God.
And he was making the Earth put oil down there.
jordan holmes
I swear to God.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I swear, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, I would say...
I don't know.
This is really narcissistic, and I'm going to go ahead and preface this by saying I don't actually believe it, but it's kind of fun to think about.
I felt a little bit of resistance on Joel Skousen's part to say that, and part of it, I'm hoping, is him being like, God damn it, Dan's going to make fun of this.
Him being like, well, to answer that question, I have to get theological.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Okay, so Joel thinks that God put oil down there for us to...
To use.
That's another reason not to take him all too seriously.
jordan holmes
I just suppose that, look, religion, whatever.
But you can't do that.
You know, like a demonstrably ridiculous thing, you can't just believe.
Like, that's wrong.
dan friesen
You can.
unidentified
That's wrong.
dan friesen
No, no, you can.
You're more than free.
To believe whatever you want to believe.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
However, it will implicate how I view your beliefs in other subjects.
jordan holmes
No, I would like that to be true as well.
Unfortunately, that is not true for most people.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
If you want to believe anything like that God put oil in the middle of the world, I think it's a harmless belief unless you're using that to argue against climate change.
jordan holmes
See, there we go!
dan friesen
Right.
I'm going to use your belief that God put oil down there for us to use.
I'm going to use that to inform.
My view of your arguments about anthropogenic climate change.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
I would just prefer if we had to...
Okay.
Holy books now have to have footnotes.
That's my new rule.
If something is demonstrably true, it's a footnote in your book.
I get it.
dan friesen
You stole that new rule from Bill Maher.
jordan holmes
Is that from Bill Maher?
Fuck off.
I swear to God.
If it is, I'll kill myself.
dan friesen
It sounds like something he would say.
He's all anti-religion and shit.
And he had a segment called New Rules.
unidentified
I just don't want...
jordan holmes
Oh, well, fine.
Yeah, fine.
unidentified
I quit.
dan friesen
That's the joke I was making.
unidentified
I'm old and I'm useless, Dan!
dan friesen
Why don't you go turn into fossil fuel?
jordan holmes
Nicely done, because I'm not a dinosaur and I'm still only six feet below ground.
dan friesen
So where do you think fossils come from?
jordan holmes
Oh, God, no.
Oh, God.
You know what?
Fuck it.
Samson.
Whenever he pulled the temple down, he made all the fossils.
dan friesen
Okay, that's interesting.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
It seems like it was intelligently designed.
joel skousen
Exactly.
Intelligently designed.
And I'm not even sure that...
You know, a lot of the fossils we find out of those actually lived on the Earth.
It's very, very possible this Earth was created by layers from other previous planets where these things are previously grown and put together.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
This is Camelot.
This is some Project Camelot shit right here.
dan friesen
Oh yes.
And to be honest, I knew that Joel Skousen was a bit of like, he has some weird...
Beliefs and such.
A lot of, like...
And it comes from his family, anti-communist royalty.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
dan friesen
Everything is a fucking false flag to him.
He has some strange ideas about what communism is and is not.
But this is...
This is out of my...
jordan holmes
I did not know that the planet itself was a false flag from other planets.
dan friesen
It could be.
jordan holmes
He's not sure.
Could possibly be!
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Other planets false flagging us with themselves.
unidentified
When you see these fossils, they look weird.
dan friesen
That's from space.
jordan holmes
Well, okay.
dan friesen
That's from space, man.
jordan holmes
Alright, so I will admit that there are millions of people who have dedicated their entire lives to studying and understanding what fossils are, and I could listen to any one of them.
However, they look weirder to me than those people do, so guess what?
Gah!
dan friesen
Space.
alex jones
God.
dan friesen
Yeah, but see, here's the thing that you don't understand about all those people who study fossils.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
It's all a scam.
Do you study fossils?
Because if you did, you would get into it, and then someone would come and put their arm around you and be like, listen, it's all from fucking space.
We're scamming people with all this academic nonsense.
jordan holmes
I gotta get into this.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
That's why Indiana Jones was so cool.
He knew it was all a scam.
dan friesen
That was predictive programming.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
It's the perfect grift.
jordan holmes
That's why you steal it from the thuggy cult.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So yeah, I guess fossils coming from space is gonna be another reason I'm not gonna take Joel Skousen too seriously.
jordan holmes
That would be a good reason.
dan friesen
Now, I think he might also believe in divine alchemy of some sort.
This is also kind of weird.
joel skousen
You know, when you look at the chance of this orbit, of this Earth, being so perfectly designed in the tilt of the Earth to have the perfect seasons.
alex jones
And the moon is in the perfect spot.
jordan holmes
You're in the...
joel skousen
In the middle of an ice storm!
Perfect season!
There's just no way that these things could happen by chance.
This earth was a divine creation.
And, you know, most Christians believe in, and they should all believe, in the fact that the Lord has power over the elements, meaning the elements are intelligent enough to obey commands.
jordan holmes
No.
No.
joel skousen
And it is a natural law that Moses smote the rock and water poured out.
It wasn't that he cracked it in a natural spring.
You know, the Lord can command that elements reform and form any element necessary.
alex jones
Because God is in command of everything created and we're made in a small image of God.
We'll be right back.
dan friesen
Way to throw it to break there.
jordan holmes
Now that, that is a thought process that I appreciate.
If God can command the elements, then the elements must be smart enough to understand.
Ah, see?
Now, I didn't think of that.
I didn't think that the elementals could also obey or disobey commands, I suppose.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I guess the staggering unlikelihood of life leads one to just decide arbitrarily that it must be fully designed, and also the Bible is literal.
jordan holmes
Yeah, how could we have such a perfect environment, a perfect planet, where massive weather events are occurring almost regularly due to our faults, where people are being destroyed over and over and over again by droughts, because they get a perfect amount of water wherever they go on the planet, right Dan?
dan friesen
The problem, I'm guessing, is that we're not burning enough oil.
jordan holmes
Well, carbon's good for the planet, is what I was told.
dan friesen
That's what I'm hearing.
jordan holmes
We're carbon dioxide starved, Dan.
Where's my buddy Mark Moreno at when you need him?
dan friesen
Dude is strange.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I was listening to this and I was like, wow, you're a much weirder dude than I think.
I can kind of see why you normally stick to weird geopolitics as opposed to some of these more esoteric beliefs because they're very strange.
They kind of make you look like a Project Camelot person.
jordan holmes
To answer that, I'm going to have to get theological.
Oh, well then I'm going to have to leave, sir.
dan friesen
If the question is, why is there oil, and I have to get theological to answer it?
jordan holmes
Goodbye.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
It was lovely speaking to you.
dan friesen
Then we don't have an answer.
I mostly bring this up and show this to be like, alright.
Joel Skousen is somebody who Alex thinks is a super credible, very important source on geopolitics.
Is Iran up to something?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he's also a person who thinks that God injected oil in the world for us to find, and maybe fossils come from outer space.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because they're weird.
Look, this is the level of expert that is hanging around here.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Scratch beneath the surface, and you're going to find them saying things like this.
jordan holmes
Which is not to say that you can't have some out there beliefs and not be, you know, like Jack Parsons.
Everybody who trusted him is an expert when it came to rockets and shit.
Not when it came to elementals.
Not true.
Sex magic was not real.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
It would be good if you stayed in your lane.
jordan holmes
Stay in your lane!
dan friesen
Now, unfortunately, his lane is also bullshit.
jordan holmes
That's a problem.
dan friesen
Skousen's lane is anti-communist.
jordan holmes
It's hard to tell the difference between what lane you're in.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know.
This was a really interesting experience for me because, you know, you start out with Alex furious and just like, I quit.
unidentified
Fuck this.
dan friesen
I can't do this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This sucks.
Fuck this place.
I hate InfoWars.
I want to quit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but if he does start...
Quite that bad.
You know we're eventually gonna get to...
I'm gonna have to get theological to answer that question, Alex.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You go along the path, you find out what's making him so mad, and it's just lying about this Department of Energy document.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, you know, he mellows out, says some bullshit.
And then you get Skousen.
And I think that this illustrates two really essential points.
One is that Alex lies.
Like, this document, he's just making shit up about it.
It's just over and over again, finding little things that he can use as, like, as if he's climbing up a mountain, little handholds that he can find to lie about.
And then the second thing I think this illustrates is that, like, people like Skousen...
Are not reliable sources.
unidentified
No, no.
dan friesen
So even if they have the pretense and the aura and the attempted facade of being like a serious-minded, I look at the documents and, you know, I go where, you know, I've read Carol Quigley's book and I am left to assume that all Democrats are evil or whatever the fuck.
Like, even if you put on that hat, underneath that hat is a dude who's weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The fossils.
jordan holmes
And let's never forget.
That patient zero for COVID-19 was indeed Steve Pachanek, and he cured it with antibiotics.
dan friesen
And he rigged up this whole election as a sting operation against the Democrats, and Alex just can't handle his truth.
jordan holmes
Nope.
A lot of his experts are reliable.
dan friesen
He also arrested the Pope.
Forgot about that.
jordan holmes
That's true.
There are a lot of exploits that are regularly unmentioned, despite their very bombastic nature.
dan friesen
So, anyway, Jordan, this has been fun, but we will get off this here horse, and we'll be back.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight.com.
Now go to bed, Jordan!
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
Please find a local charity or bail fund in your area, especially to help out with people struggling in Texas right now.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX.
Clark, I'm Daryl Rundis.
I'm the juiciest ice cube.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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