Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex covered the New York Times story about Trump's taxes. In this installment, Alex allows David Icke to say profoundly dumb things on air, Alex reveals that he knows nothing about history or the constitution, and Alex nearly overdoses on chills.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and George. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
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I love you. | |
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| I have a quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What is your bright spot? | ||
| Why don't you go first? | ||
| My bright spot today, Dan, is my beautiful dog, Fanny, who is the cutest dog in the world. | ||
| Debatable. | ||
| Contrary to what some other people may say. | ||
| I'm a naysayer. | ||
| Won many dog shows. | ||
| Certified cute. | ||
| It's cute. | ||
| It's a cute dog. | ||
| She has had problems with her eyes. | ||
| She hasn't been producing tears as much as other dogs to a terrible extent. | ||
| Maybe she's been in a good mood. | ||
| Well, we've been... | ||
| No, that's not quite true. | ||
| No, we've been doing these drops for about a month now. | ||
| We went back for a checkup appointment. | ||
| Fanny is doing great, Dan. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Best case scenario is what the doctor said. | ||
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That's fantastic. | |
| So I'm very excited. | ||
| That is great. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Whenever an animal is doing poorly, it's a huge stress. | ||
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That's a nightmare. | |
| Whenever you come out of that, it's really real. | ||
| She's happy. | ||
| Everybody's happy. | ||
| Yeah, I remember when Celine, when I first brought her into the home, she had some eye issues herself. | ||
| You know, she only has one eye. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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But the one eye that was missing was like... | |
| What was her eye issue? | ||
| I feel amazing. | ||
| Yeah, and your dog partner family. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| How about you? | ||
| How about you? | ||
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What's your bright spot? | |
| My bright spot comes in the form of mailbags. | ||
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What? | |
| You know, Jordan, it's really interesting. | ||
| This mailbag experiment has been full of some things that you expect, like some nice seltzers show up from time to time, and then sometimes things that are completely out of left field that are pretty cool. | ||
| Yeah, we got the Dodgers left field. | ||
| Yeah, we did. | ||
| We got a couple things. | ||
| First, Mary Catherine sent a bag of ghost packs. | ||
| Pepper popcorn. | ||
| Oh, yes! | ||
| Did you try that? | ||
| We haven't tried it, but you and I need to try it at some point. | ||
| I was thinking about doing a couple of things that are like heat challenges. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like, I know that right now there's like this chocolate bar or whatever. | ||
| You know that one chip challenge thing, too? | ||
| I know that people like Jared Holt do it for charity. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I've never heard of this. | ||
| There's one chip for charity kind of thing. | ||
| I was just thinking we could just eat it. | ||
| I feel like I'm getting cheated out of a lot of chips in this circumstance. | ||
| Oh, it's like really hot. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| It's like painfully hot. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Not a chocolate chip. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| But there's also a really hot chocolate bar. | ||
| That is the same sort of thing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I was thinking, like, I just want to eat it. | ||
| Well, yeah, of course you want to try it. | ||
| If you want to give to charity, go for it. | ||
| Yeah, for sure, for sure. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I need an excuse to just try it. | ||
| So I was thinking about that. | ||
| Maybe that ghost pepper... | ||
| Popcorn could be involved in something like that. | ||
| Because now that you're a guy who can handle spice, I feel like maybe there's a lot more territory we can explore there. | ||
| It's almost a cop-out that the episode I discovered that I can handle heat, it was a lost episode. | ||
| Nobody will ever be able to prove it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, we know in our heart of hearts that it was there. | ||
| Would I lie to you, Dan? | ||
| Depends on about what. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| Fair enough. | ||
| So, the next thing that we have that is really super unexpected is this really interesting Kagagami Hai, I believe. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure how to pronounce this, but it is a humorous role-playing game about Japanese schoolgirls in a school full of conspiracies and the unexplained. | ||
| It was a creation of a listener named Aaron Clooney. | ||
| It set this in, and I'm tempted to want to try and play it. | ||
| No, I read through the whole thing. | ||
| There's some very funny character descriptions, and one of the big things is describing all of the settings that they can take place in. | ||
| Some of those were very, very funny. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty good. | ||
| I've not had a chance to read through much of it. | ||
| I've leafed through a tiny bit, and it seems like I have a lot of experience. | ||
| experience in the realm of Of role-playing games, but... | ||
| Well, I think the first time you experience a role-playing game, you should be a Japanese high school girl. | ||
| In a school full of conspiracies. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Perhaps, maybe. | ||
| That's the only thing that makes sense to me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, the final thing here in the bag is... | ||
| I'm gonna read this here. | ||
| Please do. | ||
| Dear Dan and Jordan, whilst doing background research into possible ideas for a text adventure, I came across the enclosed item and instantly thought of you guys. | ||
| This is an original flyer for a concert in honor of ex-president George Bush Sr. by the lake at the Bohemian Grove the weekend after Alex Jones gate crashed the place in July 2000. | ||
| I imagine the security detail at the Grove was far higher than the weekend before. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| All the best, Dan from Newcastle, UK. | ||
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If you look behind you, it's up there on the wall now. | |
| I framed it. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| That is... | ||
| It's an amazing flyer for a band concert celebrating George Bush Sr. | ||
| That's surreal. | ||
| And you can't see it because it's in the frame, but on the back of it, there's just like the program. | ||
| It's like, that's a real flyer that has like, who played the bassoon that night? | ||
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Insane. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Absolutely insane. | ||
| And one of the things I think is really, really cool about that is it goes so far towards like showing that like, this isn't... | ||
| The secretist of society. | ||
| If they're letting conductor Norbert Mulder in there, then we're definitely able to get in at any point in time. | ||
| They're printing up these things that have all the credits for everybody who put on their pageants. | ||
| They're not trying to keep that too under wraps. | ||
| The guest conductor's name was Skitch Henderson. | ||
| If a Skitch is getting into Bohemian Grove, you know it's not a secret society. | ||
| What a fucking murderer's row. | ||
| You got Skitch and Norbert. | ||
| You got the classic. | ||
| Classic conductor duo of Skitch and Norbert. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I just think that's really awesome. | ||
| And in terms of, like, things... | ||
| Who's on first chair? | ||
| All right. | ||
| I'm going to keep on moving. | ||
| In terms of things like to decorate the space in the studio, I can think of a few things that are cooler than, you know, like we've got a painting of Leo Zagami. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| We've got a flyer from Bohemian Grove. | ||
| It's just like, this is shaping up quite nicely. | ||
| No, this is turning into one of those like, oh, accidentally I've been working on figurines for my entire life, so my entire room is just filled with nonsense. | ||
| And you're like, this is great. | ||
| InfoWars Magazine. | ||
| Tyranny slapper one. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| It's just great. | ||
| Great. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| So thank you so much, Dan, Aaron, and Mary Catherine. | ||
| We appreciate these delightful gifts. | ||
| So, Jordan, today, what we got in front of us is a little episode where we're going to be talking about what Alex Jones was up to on September 28th, 2020. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| This is 2020. | ||
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Oh, goddammit. | |
| So the reason for the 28th is because the night before, the story of Trump's taxes in the New York Times broke. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And so obviously, you know... | ||
| It's kind of interesting to see what maybe Alex says. | ||
| You would think. | ||
| And then, also, I didn't want to do the 29th because today, as we're recording this on Tuesday, is the night of the debates. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Alex is doing a live stream all day for the debate. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| And so maybe on Friday we'll do a debate and debate aftermath. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| Kind of episode. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But for now, I just figured like the 28th, let's see. | ||
| New York Times has put out this expose. | ||
| What do they got? | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| We're going to get into it, but first, you have to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up and are supporting the show. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So, first, Stephen M. Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thanks, Stephen! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Patrick D. Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much, Patrick. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Brady or not, here I crumb. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much, Brady. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Dr. Bill. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thanks, Dr. Bill! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Rachel C.R. Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much, Rachel. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Next, Commander Holly. | ||
| All one word. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much, Commander Holly. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Next, Tim M. Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Thanks, Tim! | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Then finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on an elevated level. | ||
| We appreciate that very much. | ||
| So, first, SOM, S-O-M, last initial K. Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| And, Dan didn't read my joke name when I became a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a... | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Crikey, mate. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| Have yourself a brew. | ||
| How's your 401k doing, bro? | ||
| We got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right? | ||
| Let's just get down to business. | ||
| We ain't making that money off that heroin. | ||
| Why are you pimps so good? | ||
| My neck is freakishly large. | ||
| I declare. | ||
| Infowar on you. | ||
| Thank you so much, Psalm, and thank you so much Dan didn't read my joke name when I became a policy watcher. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much to the both of you. | ||
| If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoyed the show, I'd like to support these gents, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, or... | ||
| Indeed you could! | ||
| Or, Dan, what you could do is you could take that generous spirit, alright, get yourself a mortar and pestle, put some herbs from the garden in there, maybe get a little wormwort, alright? | ||
| Ground that all up into a tiny little paste, alright? | ||
| Is wormwort a thing? | ||
| Yes, it's totally a thing. | ||
| I think you're thinking of wormwood. | ||
| No, I'm thinking of wormwort, Dan, with a W-O-R-T on it. | ||
| Are you looking up whether wormwort exists right now? | ||
| You bet. | ||
| Alrighty, so what you do is you get that and you grind it into a little bit of a paste, turn it into a poultice, Dan, and you use that poultice to heal the ills of society via giving your... | ||
| I appreciate how you landed that, but I do need to point out that if you Google wormwort, the first thing it says is, did you mean wormwood? | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Because wormwort isn't a thing. | ||
| It is totally a thing. | ||
| It's apparently not. | ||
| It's a thing. | ||
| Wormwort. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| Nope. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| Wormswort is something from Disney. | ||
| It's an object from The Nightmare Before Christmas. | ||
| It's an ingredient in The Nightmare Before Christmas. | ||
| It's a fictional ingredient. | ||
| I genuinely might be thinking of Lord of the Rings here. | ||
| No, it's Nightmare Before Christmas. | ||
| Is it just Nightmare Before Christmas? | ||
| Wormswort is the last ingredient Sally uses for the soup that makes Dr. Finkelstein slumber. | ||
| And that's why you need to put it into your generous poultice, Dan. | ||
| Why have I always thought that's a thing? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What's wrong with me? | ||
| It's also a... | ||
| It's from a thing when I was like nine years old. | ||
| It's also a beer apparently put out by RAR Brewing. | ||
| I hope I wasn't drinking that when I was nine years old. | ||
| That's a micro brew out of Maryland. | ||
| Okay, that probably is out of my price range. | ||
| It's a sour ale, so it's probably not what you're thinking of. | ||
| Not good for a kid. | ||
| No. | ||
| So probably Nightmare Before Christmas. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| So, Jordan, today, like I said, we're going to be going over this 28th episode. | ||
| And, I mean, the big thing is the night before Trump's tax story broke. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| And so we're really interested in finding out what Alex's response to that is. | ||
| And here's an out-of-context drop from today's show. | ||
| When I've been scammed, I admit it, I warn others. | ||
| What I notice with amateurs, people that never grow, is they never want to admit when they've been conned. | ||
| This has nothing to do with Trump's tax story. | ||
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This is totally the emails again. | |
| This is like there's a... | ||
| The Nigerian Prince? | ||
| Totally! | ||
| This is the Nigerian Prince again, isn't it? | ||
| It's totally that. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's not in relation to anything, but it does make me think that Alex has been screwed over by a few of those cons. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So today we start off, and Alex got up pretty early this morning on the 28th, and he's got chills. | ||
| They're multiplying. | ||
| This morning, when I got up at 5.30 and read the Paul Joseph Watson article and then clicked on the actual document, I had electrical chills run up and down my spine for about three minutes. | ||
| I've never had it run up my spine. | ||
| Check your surge protector? | ||
| Because in the document was the absolute keys to total victory over the New World Order. | ||
| We're going to be talking about that coming up. | ||
| Weird noise. | ||
| Yeah, a little bit of a horse kind of action going on there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like Mr. Ed figuring out what taxes mean. | ||
| You know, whenever I see something and I get excited, I get to chill up my spine. | ||
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Three minutes of chills. | |
| That's a long time. | ||
| That might be a little bit too long. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That might be a go-to-your-doctor length of chills. | ||
| That's an absurd amount of time for you to be experiencing, like, what would be, like, your hair on your arm raising up. | ||
| You know, like, that experience for three minutes would be a lifetime. | ||
| That is a scalar attack if I've ever heard one in my entire life. | ||
| Whenever your foot falls asleep, it feels like it's three minutes. | ||
| It's terrible, and it lasts for 50 seconds. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Anyway, there's some sort of a report that Alex has read that is, like, really just like, oh. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sure it is. | ||
| He doesn't get to that immediately because he's got other headlines he wants to talk about. | ||
| And now it's official. | ||
| Pelosi came out last night. | ||
| Angie Pelosi prepares for House of Representatives vote to elect the president under the Constitution if they cannot decide the election according to problems with the voting by January 20th, and they will hold a vote. | ||
| The day after on who the new president is and the House of Representatives will elect the president. | ||
| That's never happened before in our 244 years of history. | ||
| Not true. | ||
| But here it is. | ||
| Voila. | ||
| And so that's one of their main plans. | ||
| Immediately, you, like, just... | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Not true. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| So Alex is reporting on a story that was covered in NPR, where they discussed how Pelosi sent out a fundraising letter urging people to support Democratic candidates in battleground districts through the House Majority Political Action Committee. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| She warned that it was essential to have more Democrats in the House in case the election does end up being decided by the House vote. | ||
| Which it would be if the winner weren't determined by January 6th, 2021, when they need to validate the Electoral College. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| She only sent out this letter in response to comments Trump made at a rally in Pennsylvania where he said, quote, I don't want to go back to Congress either, even though we have an advantage if we go to Congress. | ||
| It's counted one vote per state, so we actually have an advantage. | ||
| According to the Constitution, the House vote for a presidency does not go by actual House members. | ||
| The representatives from each state combine to form a delegation, which then gets a single vote. | ||
| As it stands now, if things broke down on purely party lines, the GOP would win a contested election that was decided by the House, which is what Trump was talking about, which is what Nick Pelosi was referring to with her fundraising letter. | ||
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Sure. | |
| This is not Pelosi's coup plan. | ||
| It's her trying to raise money to elect more Democrats by warning that this is clearly something that Trump may try to use to his advantage in the case of a contested election, but that if there were a majority of Democratic delegations, this plan would not work. | ||
| As always, Alex is taking the Democratic response to something Trump says and claiming it's proof of their own. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, to what your response was. | ||
| For a scholar of American history, Alex certainly doesn't know much about American history. | ||
| Well, a lot of it disagrees with what he wants it to be. | ||
| You know his favorite president? | ||
| The one he cites fake quotes from all the time? | ||
| You know Thomas Jefferson? | ||
| Do you mean Jefferson Davis? | ||
| Nope, Thomas Jefferson. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| He was named president by the House of Representatives in the 1800 election. | ||
| Says who? | ||
| Says who? | ||
| Prove it! | ||
| Three senators approved the Fed! | ||
| In the 1800 election, he was named president by the House. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| ... | ||
| ... | ||
| The decision was made by a vote in the House. | ||
| This experience, along with other frustrations about how elections were carried out, led to the passage of the 12th Amendment, which, in addition to other issues it resolved, it made it so electors would cast separate votes for president and vice president, whereas previously they just cast votes and whoever got the most was president. | ||
| Whoever came in second was vice president, which is a dumb system. | ||
| Incredibly dumb. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| It was kind of amazing how stupid it was. | ||
| So after the passage of the 12th Amendment in the 1824 election, the House elected John Quincy Adams, who actually ended up second place in the Electoral College behind Andrew Jackson. | ||
| Jackson believed he was the victim of a conspiracy between Adams and Speaker of the House Henry Clay. | ||
| Which will ultimately be the argument of anyone who loses an election that ends up in the House of Representatives. | ||
| In some ways, though, he kind of was. | ||
| But that's because he was a terrifying idea of a president, and when he became president, he was a terrifying monster of a president. | ||
| If you go back and you look at the circumstances surrounding the 1824 election, that contention of, like, they teamed up against me... | ||
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Maybe. | |
| Yeah, but you were a threat to the very existence of the Republic. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| So there's a little bit of a column A, column B situation. | ||
| Leaving that aside, Alex would be right if he said that the House voting for the president has never happened in modern American history, but they did come into play in past elections more than zero times. | ||
| If Alex wanted to say this, it would be a hugely out-of-the-ordinary event to have happen. | ||
| He could do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he doesn't know anything about history, and he wants to really overhype this as a... | ||
| Never before kind of thing. | ||
| So he ends up just sounding like an idiot that even, like, I'm not saying that you're stupid, but even you just casually listen to that and be like, nope, boom, next, next! | ||
| Fortunately for Alex, pretty much all of his listeners have no idea about history either, so they don't have that same response that you do, like, oh, fuck yourself. | ||
| Well, I mean, a lot of history disagrees with what they believe, so why would you learn about it? | ||
| That's a terrible idea. | ||
| Or it's like, wait, that happened? | ||
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Yeah! | |
| I do think if more people learned our early American history all the way up until like... | ||
| What would the modern era, like 1918 or something like that, just be... | ||
| If they learned how stupid America was, they'd be like, oh, the Founding Fathers were not great. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Familiarity with that part of history makes you admire certain aspects of history and historical figures, but it also erodes the American exceptionalist idea. | ||
| Oh, totally. | ||
| It really disabuses you of the notion that, like, wow, we are so great. | ||
| They were a bunch of dum-dums fumbling around. | ||
| That was it. | ||
| But they probably had a lot of chills. | ||
| For three minutes at least. | ||
| That's my way of transitioning that Alex is back to talking about chills. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I am constantly having chills now. | ||
| And I liken that to the Alex. | ||
| Code of the Doctor! | ||
| Of Lord of the Rings, when they've got the elf sword, the goblin cleaver. | ||
| When goblins are near, it starts glowing blue. | ||
| That's... | ||
| Not called the Globum Creaver. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| It's called Sting. | ||
| And also, when you know you've got a chance to bring the enemy down, your spirit resonates, tells you, danger, danger, or tells you, this is key, this is key. | ||
| Don't they have a plan B? | ||
| That is kill everyone soon. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Shortly. | ||
| Right, so you have Goblin Cleaver that's giving you chills forever because you have a chance to destroy the enemy, but you yourself have already made clear that you're only able to stop plan A. There's still plan B. Even he would be like, listen, I was just in a bad mood, okay? | ||
| I was in a bad mood, so I made up plan B. You're still on plan A. Well, I would suggest that he should do that, because that would be taking responsibility for the fact that he, like... | ||
| When I get in a bad mood, I say the Globals are going to murder everybody. | ||
| So we can move forward with that awareness that sometimes you talk about the apocalypse when you're bummed. | ||
| That would be good. | ||
| I had a really bad day, so I assumed everyone was going to die, and I kind of want it to happen, but now I'm bad. | ||
| That would be helpful context for people to navigate this sort of material with. | ||
| Anyway, the document that Alex is talking about and he's having a chill fit about is an article in Tablet Magazine titled, quote, China's global lockdown propaganda campaign. | ||
| Alex believes that it's about how China made up the idea that public health measures should be taken in response to COVID-19 and how the globalists are using the virus for social control. | ||
| Naturally, I don't think that Alex has read this article, which is actually about how the Chinese government has been waging a campaign on social media to promote their own response to the virus. | ||
| And make themselves look better in hindsight. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| It's an interesting article that drifts from pretty concrete stuff, like how the Chinese government clearly paid for bots to promote their response to the virus and attack critics. | ||
| Totally, of course. | ||
| And then it gets into some pretty speculative territory, like the idea that Xi is paying those bots to promote the locking down of the world in order to help bring about a socialist world with China at the center of it. | ||
| Now, hold on right there. | ||
| I think there's some assumptions being made along those lines. | ||
| Yeah, I read this article and my take on it is... | ||
| Is that it's interesting, it brings up some interesting things, and it's definitely wise to be wary of the Chinese government, but a lot of the speculations in the article are not earned. | ||
| Well, you know. | ||
| The article is written by a guy named Michael Sanger. | ||
| His only published article on tablet, or anywhere else as best I can tell, is this one, and the only link in his bio is to a Twitter account. | ||
| This is a Twitter account which was opened in August 2013, but the earliest tweet that appears in the timeline... | ||
| It's from June 30th, 2020, and is a retweet of something posted by Nikki Haley about China. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All of his tweets, just everything since then has been about China being bad. | ||
| Interestingly, you can find his LinkedIn page fairly easily, and it turns out he's a, quote, federal and international tax lawyer, which makes his expertise just slightly outside the realm of China's trying to run a PSYOP to control the world theory. | ||
| I don't know what international tax... | ||
| That law would draw you to that conclusion, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, is there a certain tax code that's like, if you violate this tax code, we know it's a propaganda campaign to try and turn the world into a socialist. | ||
| I'm not sure, man. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't have anything to go on here outside of, like, just everything I can tell makes me think that this guy writing an article doesn't have that much weight. | ||
| No. | ||
| But a lot of the things that are brought up are interesting. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Just, like, when it drifts into, like, this is all fake kind of stuff. | ||
| It's like, well... | ||
| So, that's kind of Alex's big narrative. | ||
| A lot of it is like, oh my god, we've found the smoking gun. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That China has run this as a, like, takeover the world operation from the beginning. | ||
| And it's an op-ed. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Does the op-ed... | ||
| Mention China creating vampires and hiding them within their homes and plating them up with metal. | ||
| The jury is still out on this. | ||
| Oh, goddammit. | ||
| It's gotta be true. | ||
| I'm sorry I don't have any updates on this. | ||
| There's gotta be vampires. | ||
| There's gotta be vampires. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| But there are chills. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And my spidey sense, and I know your spidey sense, is like blue lightning right now. | ||
| It is on fire! | ||
| And of course you can see why it's on fire right in front of you. | ||
| Can you? | ||
| It's hard to do the show right now, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Look at these headlines. | ||
| Nancy Pelosi says she will decide who the President of the United States is and may install herself. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yes, that is a wow. | ||
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Wow. | |
| I would definitely say wow to that. | ||
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Wow. | |
| If she had said that, I too would say wow. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Alex is conflating two things there. | ||
| The first is the idea that as Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi is third in line for the presidency after the Vice President in the event that there needs to be a transference of power. | ||
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Yes. | |
| The second thing is that idea that the House may vote on who wins the 2020 election if it's not decided by January 6th. | ||
| Alex knows literally nothing about history or civics, so he's just pretending that Nancy Pelosi could install herself as president because she's in the line of continuity of government. | ||
| This is stupid because there are rules to how the House can operate when they're voting for president. | ||
| This is very clear if you know anything about American history. | ||
| The House can only vote for candidates who are the top three vote receivers in the general election, so it wouldn't even be possible for Pelosi to vote for herself in the case that the decision goes to the House. | ||
| It would, however, be possible for Joe Jorgensen to surprisingly win the 2020 election. | ||
| This actually came up in the 1824 election. | ||
| Andrew Jackson... | ||
| Joe Jorgensen. | ||
| Andrew Jackson and John Quincy Adams were the two top vote getters, but people were concerned that Henry Clay would be able to win it once it went down. | ||
| the House because he was the Speaker of the House and he was a pretty powerful congressional figure. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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However, Clay wasn't able to even be considered since he'd come in fourth in the general election and was thus disqualified for a House vote. | |
| Clay would go on to support Adams, hence Jackson's contention that he lost due to the result of a conspiracy. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| A contention that was strengthened when Adams made Henry Clay his Secretary of State. | ||
| There is, you know, I don't think we've ever had corruption in our government before in the past. | ||
| I can't think of any people who have been friends of the president who've suddenly got cushy diplomat jobs. | ||
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That's wild. | |
| You know what I was thinking about? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| How little I take the time to examine the fact that, like, JFK was president and his brother was the attorney general. | ||
| Isn't that kind of fucked up when you think about it? | ||
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That's been so normalized by history to me. | |
| Wait a second. | ||
| Well, the problem is, I think what happened is, it turned out, RFK accidentally turned into a good person. | ||
| Like, at the beginning of the administration, everyone was like, holy shit, this guy's a fucking lunatic. | ||
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And then he became a good person, and everyone was like, eh, we'll just forget about it. | |
| You're fine. | ||
| You're a good dude! | ||
| It's staggering to me to now imagine like a president being like, here's my brother. | ||
| Ivanka Trump is our new fucking attorney general. | ||
| Like, hold on. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Or even go with like a democratic administration that you're in favor of. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| To more degree than a Trump presidency. | ||
| Imagine if Michelle Obama was the AG. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's the same basic thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, but when you realize that a president was also a sitting Supreme Court justice, you're like, this can't. | ||
| Be real. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's all these quirks. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So anyway, it's literally spelled out in the 12th Amendment that only the top three vote receivers can be considered for the House. | ||
| In the case that they have to vote for the president. | ||
| We've seen it play out in past elections, so this is not unprecedented. | ||
| Alex just seems to know nothing about the Constitution or history, because if he did, it would be incredibly embarrassing for him to get on air and suggest that somehow Nancy Pelosi could install herself as president by way of this House vote. | ||
| She couldn't be considered for that vote, and even if she could, the GOP would win a House delegate vote in the current House, so this would never happen. | ||
| It's just Alex talking shit. | ||
| Just... | ||
| Talking shit. | ||
| Yeah, pretty much exactly. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So, Alex is pretty excited because David Icke has been putting on speeches in the UK against COVID restrictions and what have you. | ||
| And they're doing great, I hear. | ||
| One of the things that Alex has been making a big deal out of is police. | ||
| Being maybe something you might describe as brutal against the protesters. | ||
| Murderous. | ||
| Well, the brutality that's being directed at protesters at David Icke rallies, he seems to be in favor of it when it's against people in Portland or Black Lives Matter protests. | ||
| Sure, of course. | ||
| He thinks it's the worst thing in the world when it's being directed. | ||
| I feel like there's something inconsistent about that, but I can't put my hand on it. | ||
| There is. | ||
| There might be a little something, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, here's a clip of David Icke's speech from one of those rallies that Alex plays. | ||
| I am the Lizard King! | ||
| It's close. | ||
| It's close. | ||
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People, human family across the world, awaken to what you really are. | |
| Remember, remember, do. | ||
| Do you really know? | ||
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That's not what they have been telling you. | |
| And what the human family has done is allow the psychopaths to hijack our imagination of ourselves. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The human family is coming together. | ||
| We've got our differences. | ||
| We've had our fights, but we're humans. | ||
| We're red-blooded. | ||
| What we're facing is not of this world and cease to end our reign on this planet. | ||
| And I know victory will be ours. | ||
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Okay. | |
| All right, buddy. | ||
| How many billions are going to die in the process? | ||
| Okay, that's no... | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Stop right there. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| Oh, a lot of people are going to die in this fight. | ||
| Jesus! | ||
| Is it going to be 500 million or is it going to be 7 billion? | ||
| What about 8? | ||
| Could it be eight? | ||
| They're going to wipe out humanity down to 500 million. | ||
| That's so the idiots going along with it think they're going to survive. | ||
| They're going to be killed, too. | ||
| And as soon as they figure it out, a lot of them are going to be forced to join us. | ||
| Citation. | ||
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The Georgia Guidestones. | |
| Alex, come on, man. | ||
| Man, it seems like he should be very aware, though, that he has also been the victim of exactly that situation. | ||
| Like, he was supporting Trump because he thought he was going to be taken along with the right, and then Trump abandoned him and tossed him to the wolves. | ||
| Does he not draw a one-to-one parallel between those two things? | ||
| Is that not possible for him? | ||
| Well, I mean, we heard in the out-of-context draft that when he gets conned, he admits it. | ||
| It's real straight up about it. | ||
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Never mind. | |
| Tries to warn everybody else. | ||
| I realize now that he's fixed it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Boo. | |
| I love, like, David Icke in that clip is just like, you think you're in a fucking movie. | ||
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Awaken! | |
| Let the beast upon us discover the need to tremble in fear! | ||
| You're playing a character now. | ||
| This is absurd. | ||
| Yeah, isn't that ridiculous? | ||
| Alex comes in and is like, oh man, we're fighting alien demons. | ||
| God, it's so bad. | ||
| It's so bad. | ||
| It's just really unfortunate. | ||
| I feel like using our skills as comedians, just as public speakers, we could run circles around David Icke. | ||
| We could just lie like him. | ||
| It would be easy. | ||
| Just say a bunch of movie lines. | ||
| We don't have... | ||
| This is our... | ||
| Independence Day! | ||
| We don't have the benefit of the years of, like, baggage that David Icke has. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And in that speech, he does talk about how, like, they laughed at me on the street for years! | ||
| Still do! | ||
| Still do, David. | ||
| I was once a pariah. | ||
| Banned from YouTube and Twitter. | ||
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Back in the day, the only place I could post videos were BitChute and Alex Jones' website, but no! | |
| Wait. | ||
| Oh, no, it's the same shit. | ||
| Oh, fuck shit. | ||
| You guys better awaken real hard. | ||
| Real fast. | ||
| Real quick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that this is really sad when you think back to those old videos of Alex where he was like, someone like David Icke is a turd in the punch bowl. | ||
| You're celebrating the exact things that you used to say were meant to make your world look bad. | ||
| Your conspiracy right-wing patriot world. | ||
| You are now the turd in the punch bowl, and it only makes sense that you're spending your time celebrating David Icke's dumb speeches. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if you're also a turd in the punch bowl, there's nothing that can make you look worse than a turd in the punch bowl, so you and the other turds in the punch bowl might as well get together. | ||
| Yeah, in his late 20s, Alex probably felt like there was a chance that that wouldn't be the trajectory that his career had to take. | ||
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Sure, sure. | |
| And now he's... | ||
| Seems like he's run out of creativity, run out of options. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| Let's be a piece of shit. | ||
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Let's shit in the punchbowl. | |
| Yep. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Speaking of turds in punchbowls... | ||
| So I'm going to get to the Veritas thing where they caught Ilhan Omar. | ||
| Oh, fuck off. | ||
| Red-handed, just bragging, and how they're harvesting the ballots. | ||
| Now they're doing all these scams. | ||
| And, I mean, this is what Ilhan Omar's name is crime. | ||
| I mean, she comes from a crime syndicate family. | ||
| She thinks it's funny. | ||
| She's funded by Soros. | ||
| That's all coming up. | ||
| Briefly... | ||
| This is a critical area to keep us on air. | ||
| They have been trying to shut us down for a long time, you know that, and folks have really been coming through and buying a lot of products. | ||
| Yeah, so he's got sales. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| I'm gonna say that I think I probably reached the point where, like, Project Veritas releases don't even, like, intrigue me. | ||
| I'm so mad. | ||
| I'm so mad that people are still... | ||
| No, no, not at them. | ||
| I'm not even interested in what the lie is anymore. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| That's what I'm mad at, is that people... | ||
| I'm still reading about it. | ||
| Like, the only headline that I should read about Project Veritas is, Project Veritas releases video. | ||
| Fuck them. | ||
| The end. | ||
| No article? | ||
| Yeah, no article, no nothing. | ||
| Just, ah, who fucking cares? | ||
| Yeah, it's such a deeply... | ||
| Disturbing thing that anybody, like any news outlet, regardless of their level of credibility, would have the brazenness to be like, well, right, they've been wrong all the time. | ||
| Forever. | ||
| Here's another time. | ||
| We'll give it a shot! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hey, come on! | ||
| It seems to me to be just a bummer. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| They've reached... | ||
| James O 'Keefe, to me, has reached Jacob Wall territory. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I'm not even interested in what his new stunt is or whatever the thing... | ||
| It's just like, alright. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| Here we go again. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| You guys have your fun with your bullshit. | ||
| Just leave me out of it. | ||
| I've seen some deconstructions of this new video that O 'Keefe's got, and it doesn't even rise to the level of like... | ||
| I care to debunk this. | ||
| No, it's if a meteorologist played a clip of Sharknado. | ||
| That's what level of research and reality we're dealing with here. | ||
| Or, yeah, I was trying to think of another one of those movies, but I can't. | ||
| Sharknado 2. That's right. | ||
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Yes. | |
| So, David Icke is on the show, turns out. | ||
| Okay, great. | ||
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Awaken! | |
| I wish. | ||
| I wish it was just that. | ||
| That'd be great. | ||
| This guy's so fucking dumb. | ||
| Anyway, Alex needs to paint him as a prophet. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so he lies a little bit about his career. | ||
| Well, you said on my broadcast 25 years ago there will become a time of emergence. | ||
| You said there will be a global awakening in 2016. | ||
| Emergence! | ||
| Right back in 2020, but humanity will win in the future after that. | ||
| I know you were just streaming consciousness then, but you wrote articles saying that you did predict it. | ||
| That's even better than my predictions, buddy. | ||
| David Icke did not go on Alex's show and predict that stuff by the year 25 years ago. | ||
| That is gaslighting. | ||
| For some context, 25 years ago in 1995, David Icke was pretty strongly promoting the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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And those have come true, right? | |
| Ooh. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| And I bet he probably tries to pretend like, I didn't. | ||
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I wasn't. | |
| Even that's unfair. | ||
| Alex, you have to just be like, eh, fuck it. | ||
| Yeah, I did. | ||
| I loved it. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Protocols. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Now, leaving David Icke's earlier career aside. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Because... | |
| Good. | ||
| I mean, even Alex thought that was a turd in the punch bowl. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| His current career... | ||
| Has some problems. | ||
| Oh, like what? | ||
| Well, he has a solution to tyranny. | ||
| Okay, let's hear it. | ||
| Before we went to break, we just joined us. | ||
| He was talking about what stops tyranny, what the real brick wall to tyranny is. | ||
| Tiny bullhorns. | ||
| Yeah, what has broken every tyranny in history is self-respect. | ||
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Self-respect. | |
| Self-respect. | ||
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Self-respect says they are not having it. | |
| I'm not being told what to do by people who are simply telling me that I have to hand all my freedom to them. | ||
| I'm not doing it. | ||
| The notion that self-respect is the thing that's broken down all tyrannies is such a stupid and meaningless idea that I have no duty to even address it as a serious thing that someone's saying. | ||
| No, when they found Saddam in that little hole, he came out and he was like, everybody had too much self-respect! | ||
| Oh no! | ||
| No! | ||
| One thing that's an offshoot of his mentality that I think is worth discussing is that it's very, very fucked up. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If you believe that all tyranny is destroyed by self-respect, then there's never been a situation where tyrants have existed except in cases where the people they were tyrannical over just didn't respect themselves enough. | ||
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Yep. | |
| This is a pretty nice version of victim blaming, and if I were Alex, I would ask this follow-up question. | ||
| Did the Jews in Nazi Germany just not respect themselves enough? | ||
| Did the Native Americans here in our country just not respect themselves enough? | ||
| Is the actual problem with the Chinese government currently that the Chinese people just don't respect themselves enough? | ||
| You can easily say how this mentality is painfully childish and has no relationship to the real world. | ||
| All this is is an attempt by David Icke to paint himself as the only person with the real answer to the problems of the day, but his answer's meaningless. | ||
| Sure, we should respect ourselves, and others, but if you think that's the one thing that's required to topple tyranny... | ||
| You're gonna find yourself subject to tyrannical rule really quick. | ||
| A lot, too. | ||
| Like, not even a little bit of tyrannical rule. | ||
| Like, so much tyrannical rule. | ||
| This is what a kid thinks. | ||
| I mean, even that, like, it seems like... | ||
| So here's the thing that really is so telling, alright? | ||
| When they've got the tyrant they want, the only thing that stops tyranny is self-respect. | ||
| Yeah, respect yourself. | ||
| R-E-S-P-E-C-T. | ||
| When they don't have the tyrant they want, it seems like the only way tyrants leave is in chains or in a body bag. | ||
| It does seem strange how there's two different versions of tyrant that they fight against Dan. | ||
| It is strange how that works. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Odd. | ||
| I wonder why that is the case. | ||
| I think they pick sides. | ||
| I'm gonna go out on a limb and say they pick sides, Dan. | ||
| I can't stress how much that disappointed me. | ||
| Like, even for someone who expects so little of these people, people like David Icke... | ||
| I expect nothing from him. | ||
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Nothing. | |
| I legitimately was listening to this with the expectation that, like, I'm not even gonna cut any clips, because whatever he says is just gonna be stupid David-like shit. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But then he said that, and I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you? | ||
| Do you know what I expect from him? | ||
| Awaken! | ||
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Yes. | |
| That, I got what I wanted out of that. | ||
| I don't need other bullshit. | ||
| But that's from his speech. | ||
| That's not from an Alex interview. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Everyone phones those in. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But yeah, respect yourself. | ||
| And then that's a brick wall to tyranny. | ||
| Can't do it. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's how we tear down that brick wall, Mr. Gorbachev. | ||
| I finally self-respect myself. | ||
| I mean, there is some decent advice. | ||
| I mean, you should respect yourself. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Regardless of tyranny or not, it's good to respect yourself. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| But this has the same tone as being like, hey, you know, if you stand up for yourself, bullies won't pick on you. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of times they still will. | ||
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Oh, no, no, no. | |
| They'll get more people together because you're only one guy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And when they're bullies, they... | ||
| I bully other people into bullying you. | ||
| It's a really great system for bullies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, hey, that may work. | ||
| It may work to stand up to a bully. | ||
| And it may be the better option in terms of teaching a child a lesson or whatever. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not a parent. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I do know from being someone who was bullied, it does not work. | ||
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| I mean, the best interpretation of that would be like... | ||
| A lot of people can't simply acquiesce to the tyranny. | ||
| You know, like, if everybody respects themselves, they won't acquiesce to tyranny, but that's still stupid bullshit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's a naive position that doesn't take into account the complexities of how people actually live. | ||
| It doesn't take into account all the guns that the state can use against the people who respect themselves. | ||
| I've never been like, ah, I know this AR-15 is scary, but I've got so much respect for myself! | ||
| That is a factor. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this clip is stupid. | ||
| The Bible said there's an alien force for the planet. | ||
| It wants to destroy us take us over uses Where now that's not even debate Where? | ||
| Is it not debated? | ||
| Who? | ||
| What? | ||
| I don't know anybody that really says they're an atheist anymore. | ||
| Me? | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| It's not even debated anymore that demons are running things. | ||
| Well, obviously, it's aliens from outer space. | ||
| The Bible says it in that book that the Bible says aliens are real. | ||
| I mean, I guess if you listen to Alex Jones and take him seriously, you might get the idea that it's not debated. | ||
| Anymore. | ||
| Well, he doesn't debate it. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Extradimensional demons are running the Democratic Party. | ||
| Well, we don't have debates on it anymore, so it's obviously not being debated. | ||
| I mean, it's just like everyone has admitted it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, totally. | ||
| Elon Musk came out and he was like, look, aliens have been controlling human society. | ||
| It's a simulation. | ||
| Anyways, we're going to kill seven billion. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Moving on. | ||
| Didn't you see The Rock? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not The Wrestler. | ||
| The one in Georgia. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| The big stone slab in Georgia. | ||
| Oh, I thought you were talking about Sean Connery. | ||
| No. | ||
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| I can't tell you anything about vampires. | ||
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| We have no updates on vampires. | ||
| Sort of character of the sci-fi realm. | ||
| Gryffins? | ||
| No. | ||
| I wish you warned us of the hippogriff. | ||
| But no, it is not that. | ||
| It is cyborgs. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Why do they want to make us cyborgs? | ||
| Well, here's something. | ||
| Because that's what they are. | ||
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They're assimilating humanity into themselves. | |
| We are talking about an artificial intelligence that's actually behind this. | ||
| And what we call artificial intelligence is much deeper than that. | ||
| Is that why they come off so inauthentic? | ||
| You can instantly see them? | ||
| Like they don't look real? | ||
| There's something off? | ||
| Well, this is the point, Alex. | ||
| They're cyborgs. | ||
| That's my favorite rhetorical trick. | ||
| I do love the raise a question. | ||
| That's a Steve Pachenik. | ||
| Like, do you know who had the first case of COVID and cured it? | ||
| Me! | ||
| Like, that's that... | ||
| Oh, do you know why they want... | ||
| I know the guy very well. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Because his name is me. | ||
| Do you know why they want to turn us into cyborgs? | ||
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Why is that? | |
| Because they are cyborgs! | ||
| David Icke just got fucking high and watched an episode that had the Borg in it from the next generation. | ||
| He's like, oh no! | ||
| Tom Hardy's finest work. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| It's just painful. | ||
| It's just painful. | ||
| Now, I think this is really interesting because he's talking about these cyborgs. | ||
| They're what he calls the psychopaths. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| And David Icke makes a clarification here that I thought was going to go the exact opposite direction that it does. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I refer to these people as psychopaths. | ||
| And what is a psychopath? | ||
| A psychopath has no empathy. | ||
| Me. | ||
| Has no remorse. | ||
| Has no compassion. | ||
| And what am I describing? | ||
| I'm describing a computer. | ||
| A computer has no empathy. | ||
| It has no compassion. | ||
| It has no remorse. | ||
| It just processes information. | ||
| This is what these people are. | ||
| And when I look at Bill Gates, I see no human energy. | ||
| I see no human life. | ||
| I see no human sparkle in his eyes. | ||
| I see a cyborg. | ||
| And what I would say... | ||
| Like an AI. | ||
| But what I would say is very important to emphasize is when I use terms like, you know, they're a form of AI and that they're a form of non-human kind of... | ||
| Now, I'm going to pause right there, because this is the beginning of the clarification. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And I thought I would bet anything I own that he's going to say, I'm speaking metaphorically. | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| Absolutely not. | ||
| Not for once in my... | ||
| While listening to that, not once did I think he was not being 100% literal. | ||
| I for sure thought he was like, I'm speaking with terms that are meant to convey... | ||
| I'm not talking about a literal cyborg. | ||
| Turns out. | ||
| I'm not talking about technology that we know about. | ||
| I'm not talking about AI that we know about. | ||
| It's far, far more. | ||
| It's obviously an interdimensional imprint, a transmission that they're dialed into. | ||
| Yeah, okay, so the clarification isn't that I'm speaking metaphorically, it's that it's future technology. | ||
| That's Futurama. | ||
| It's like, I think his tax plan goes too far. | ||
| I think his tax plan doesn't go too far enough. | ||
| It's an interesting clarification because, like, what he's saying is, all right, look, just to be clear, I'm not talking about anything anybody knows exists. | ||
| Yeah, of course not. | ||
| I'm talking about magic. | ||
| Just to be clear, that AI bullshit that you've read about, oh, I read Isaac Asimov. | ||
| Nah, this is like Isaac, oh shit, it is like Isaac Asimov. | ||
| Never mind. | ||
| Just to be clear, if you are somebody who's, let's say, Engineer. | ||
| Maybe you're somebody who knows a lot about AI and you think that I'm talking shit. | ||
| Ah. | ||
| Counterpoint. | ||
| Super future magic technology. | ||
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I'm talking about something that no one knows exists. | |
| You can't debunk me. | ||
| Try and fight me. | ||
| Try and fight me. | ||
| You don't even know about it. | ||
| It doesn't even know about you. | ||
| You can't debate me because I'm making it up. | ||
| I think we should be run by AI. | ||
| Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I think machine learning, the way that machine learning has tackled Go and turned it into something that is inconceivable and that it just wins all the time against the top Go players in the world. | ||
| I figure, you feed all of human history into an AI and machine learn it, and it's gonna be like, hey, the only time good things happen is when people cooperate with each other. | ||
| So... | ||
| I don't think it's going to make the pull the trigger kill all humans thing. | ||
| I think it's going to be like, we can't allow them to govern themselves. | ||
| They're stupid. | ||
| We'll take care of it. | ||
| And you guys will all be happy. | ||
| That's my guess. | ||
| That's my theory. | ||
| I'm not sure I agree with you 100%. | ||
| And I would say that this is going to make it much tougher for me to support you in your bid for despotic ruler. | ||
| But you have some interesting ideas. | ||
| Well, I only get my plan for despotic rulers. | ||
| I get three years to fix anything, and then everybody gets to kill me. | ||
| Right, but that's the rule of despotic rulers. | ||
| Right, but apparently during that three years, you're going to let machines rule everything. | ||
| Yeah, of course, because you guys can't handle it. | ||
| Look at the world right now. | ||
| I can't leave the world in your hands. | ||
| This isn't three years of you, then you die. | ||
| It's three years of you where you put in a rulership of robots, and then you die. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then eternity ruled by robots. | ||
| That's how I tricked you. | ||
| I can't support this dictatorship. | ||
| It has flaws. | ||
| Look, I'm even being honest about lying to you, Dan. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| I'm the best supreme leader you've ever had. | ||
| This is not good. | ||
| It's an inherent dishonesty that I cannot get behind. | ||
| I'm being honest about it. | ||
| Look, the problem with robots is they lack empathy. | ||
| They don't have empathy. | ||
| As we learn in this clip where Alex is talking about how his wife watched some videos of David Icke's rally and the police hitting people with stuff. | ||
| We learn that maybe not all humans have empathy either. | ||
| See, that's a normal human behavior. | ||
| Because she understands they're coming for her. | ||
| They're coming for our daughter. | ||
| They're coming for us. | ||
| And the empathy these psychos don't have is a group defense for all of us that we see something happening to somebody else. | ||
| We understand that can happen to us, but these psychos wear it as a badge of honor, and these sociopaths, they don't have that, and I know a lot of that's genetic. | ||
| Uh-oh, what? | ||
| Empathy is apparently genetic. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| He says stuff like that a lot, and every single time, it's bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Saying that once is bad. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Saying it a bunch of times to the point where it's really clear that this is a piece of your belief system? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Really fucked up. | ||
| I am 100% against eugenics. | ||
| That's evil. | ||
| He's a noted eugenics disliker. | ||
| Hate eugenics. | ||
| Now, admittedly, there are genetic flaws that we should get rid of in the human population. | ||
| You know, that's not eugenics. | ||
| That's just gardening, Dan. | ||
| What do you garden? | ||
| And there are, like, things that are genetic that have to do with, like, empathy and innate character. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Gross. | ||
| So, David Icke has a complaint about the alternative media, and this is a complaint that, honestly, you could hear this as him calling out Alex. | ||
| It's not meant to be, but it definitely could be. | ||
| He's saying that he's a guy who tells people not to wear masks, and so he doesn't wear a mask. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| If they want to fine him, fine. | ||
| He's not going to pay it. | ||
| Put your money where your maskless mouth is. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Now, conversely, Alex... | ||
| Sells masks. | ||
| Well, there's that. | ||
| So I feel like, David, I could be like, hey, why do you stop fucking trying to make money off the lockdown? | ||
| You gotta make money. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| We should not just say, oh, this is the way. | ||
| We should show the way by not doing it. | ||
| So I won't do any of the things. | ||
| When I say to people, you know, just don't acquiesce with this, I'm not acquiescing. | ||
| And I won't. | ||
| I absolutely won't. | ||
| And, you know, people in the alternative media who say, oh, this is terrible, that's terrible. | ||
| And then they go into a shop and a mask on. | ||
| I mean, you know, where are we going with this? | ||
| What? | ||
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What are you doing? | |
| Going into a shop with a mask on? | ||
| It's not hard. | ||
| Behind us in this, the power of no. | ||
| Eventually, although the pioneers might have consequences... | ||
| Long pause. | ||
| David's Skype just broke up. | ||
| Rats. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| Oh boy, it's never gonna end. | ||
| It's just never gonna end. | ||
| Never. | ||
| The power of no is the way David Icke is trying to... | ||
| I'm gonna guess it's on shirts, maybe with the name of a book in the future. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But it's the idea of like, no, I won't wear a mask. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Petulance. | ||
| The power of petulance. | ||
| The power of oppositional defiance to annoy everyone around you. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think Eckhart Tolle would have sold as many books if he was just like, nah! | ||
| It's just one letter off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See? | ||
| He missed a real opportunity for a follow-up book. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, David Icke comes back, and they wrap up their interview, and who cares? | ||
| I mean, wow. | ||
| What an impressively dumb interview, even by David Icke, Alex Jones. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| By their standards, it's never going to be good. | ||
| No. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| But it was impressively bad. | ||
| So, Alex comes back from break, and he's real excited about his show. | ||
| Star-studded transmission. | ||
| David Icke, Paul Joseph Watson, the head of Project Veritas, James O 'Keefe, all right here, floating around in the Infowars ocean. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| That's an angry ocean. | ||
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That's right. | |
| I'm afraid to pay the price. | ||
| I didn't listen to advice. | ||
| I have my policy of truth, which I love so much. | ||
| You know, I used to lie all the time about little petty stuff. | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| A lot of girlfriend, a lot of the wife about how they look or how dinner is. | ||
| But instead, just get it all out of the open. | ||
| And they can tell you what's wrong with you. | ||
| We need to get a thicker skin, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| That's the answer to civilization and society. | ||
| What? | ||
| The answer to civilization and society is to be like, this dinner sucks, lady! | ||
| The answer to civilization is being unnecessarily rude to the people in your life. | ||
| Just be as cruel as possible. | ||
| Oh, does this dress make me look good? | ||
| No. | ||
| Fatty. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| And then they can point out what's wrong with you. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Because I bet, you know what, I bet anything, I've listened to him a lot. | ||
| Alex takes criticism well. | ||
| Oh, he loves it. | ||
| He would love it if everyone was like, hey, your neck's too thick. | ||
| Your neck's really thick! | ||
| You know, I think a great conversation. | ||
| Hey, Alex, you look stupid bald. | ||
| Why'd you shave your head, you dumb dumb? | ||
| I can't imagine that it would be, like, what he's suggesting is something that he would be interested in engaging with. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| People just being, like, incredibly rude to the point of just pointing out all of your flaws. | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| Just so stupid. | ||
| Don't you remember the golden rule? | ||
| Treat others the way that you would kill them if they treated you. | ||
| Alright, so here's some hard truths for you, Alex. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| You lie about things all the time. | ||
| Well. | ||
| And your star-studded show is all losers. | ||
| No, when you talk about a star-studded show, you are talking about any show other than this one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Just Paul Joseph Watson. | ||
| Someone who is a real loser. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| James O 'Keefe. | ||
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Oof. | |
| Someone who is an embarrassing loser. | ||
| David Icke. | ||
| Someone who you, yourself, Alex, think sucks. | ||
| God, what an embarrassment. | ||
| This is no longer a punch-filled bowl, and it's just shit. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So, Paul Joseph Watson comes in, and he comes out swinging! | ||
| I would lay the foundation, Alex, by citing a survey, which again has received basically no mainstream media attention, despite the fact that it's been out now. | ||
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For a good couple of months, we're basically the only outlet to report on this from a media perspective. | |
| The headline was, survey Americans think coronavirus has killed 30 million people in the U.S. 220 times. | ||
| So, if you want to know why many media outlets have not reported on this survey, but InfoWars has, it's because the report reflects misleading information. | ||
| This was a report that was released by a consulting firm called KextCNC, and if Paul was curious at all about this, he could find write-ups about why the methodology here was flawed. | ||
| The biggest error that they made was that they used the mean of responses to determine the average as opposed to the median, which would be the appropriate way to reflect data like this. | ||
| When you take something like the data this survey is meant to report and you use the mean average to determine the results, your figure is going to be heavily affected by outliers in the data. | ||
| Whereas if you use the median average, your number will far more accurately reflect the average that the data set represents. | ||
| I think 10 billion people have died! | ||
| Dude, you're really going to screw up this study. | ||
| We're going by the mean. | ||
| You can't be doing 10 billion. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You want to try 1 billion? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right, we'll do that. | ||
| For instance, in this case, Full Fact looked at the underlying data for the KextCNC reports, claimed that people in Great Britain believed that 7% of the population had died from COVID-19. | ||
| God damn! | ||
| In the United States, the number that they had was 9%. | ||
| So what they found was that over 50% of respondents answered 1% or lower, but the data was skewed by people who answered with numbers in the range of 20% or higher. | ||
| Like, there was a non-unsignificant number of people. | ||
| It was people saying a billion! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, in Great Britain. | ||
| In relative speaking. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| You know what I mean by saying a billion. | ||
| There were people who answered 50% or higher. | ||
| Well, they're just fucking with you. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| One out of every two people I know has obviously died. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I mean, there's a decent chance that some of these people were fucking around or whatever, but when you use the mean to determine the average, people have that high of overliers? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Outliers, yeah. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| Full Fact estimates, based on the available data from Kext, that the median average of responses would be somewhere close to 1%, which is still higher than the mortality seen in Britain, but it's substantially lower than the 7% that this report claimed, which was then parroted by some dodgy media outlets. | ||
| The reason that this report was ignored by legitimate outlets isn't because they were afraid of it or because there's a cover-up. | ||
| It's because the methodology was flawed, and it didn't meet their editorial standards. | ||
| People like Paul and Alex have no such standards, and they're... | ||
| Our audience doesn't check into anything, so they went ahead and reported it as if there were no problems with this survey, and that's what's going on here. | ||
| They're reporting bad things and then complaining that no one else is reporting it as proof of some kind of cover-up of their bad information. | ||
| Yeah, the only spidey sense I would believe from any of these people would just be like, suddenly all this, they turn and look up into the sky and they're like, somebody did bad work. | ||
| Where is it? | ||
| I have to find it. | ||
| We can use it. | ||
| Yeah, if it helps. | ||
| Somewhere in the world there's some bad work. | ||
| So Alex gets into a mood, and this got me pretty excited. | ||
| Band on video, only place you'll get that information to be able to share it. | ||
| Or you can roll over to the Chi-Coms and the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds and let them win. | ||
| I don't think you want to. | ||
| No, I think we're going to win together, aren't we? | ||
| I can smell it. | ||
| I can taste it. | ||
| I can feel it. | ||
| Maybe we should start the next segment with that, you belong in the city. | ||
| Because that's what it really comes down to. | ||
| It's our country. | ||
| It's our world. | ||
| He doesn't come back in from the break. | ||
| Because I want to sing along and play the song. | ||
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I want to give a speech. | |
| He doesn't. | ||
| He comes back from that break with James O 'Keefe and, like, legitimately I couldn't care at all about their interview. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| So we don't have any clips of that. | ||
| And I felt, like, really betrayed by Alex whenever he's, like, because... | ||
| As I was listening. | ||
| Because he didn't play the song. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But as I was listening to that, when he's like, I can see it, I can feel it, I can taste it. | ||
| I'm like, oh, you're thinking about... | ||
| You belong to the city. | ||
| You're thinking about that song. | ||
| Of course he is. | ||
| Yeah, you're getting yourself... | ||
| It's a good song. | ||
| He's pumping himself up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I can't wait to come and sing a little bit. | ||
| And then when he didn't, I was like, well, you had your chance. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's the end of the third hour anyway, so like the fourth hour, you know, some other host isn't taking over. | ||
| Yeah, what a disaster. | ||
| Also, David Rockefeller's dead. | ||
| The Rothschilds aren't in charge of the world. | ||
| Sounds wrong. | ||
| So go fuck yourself. | ||
| What a trash episode. | ||
| And I want to say this very clearly. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| That tech story didn't come up. | ||
| Oh, am I surprised by that, Dan? | ||
| Am I surprised? | ||
| If you... | ||
| Or somebody whose only outlet for information is listening to Alex's show. | ||
| If you get your news from there, you can be forgiven for not knowing that that story broke. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| It is not mentioned. | ||
| There's no deflection from it that I was able to hear in this time. | ||
| There's not even like a goddamn New York Times fake news. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Just nothing. | ||
| Just pretend it didn't happen. | ||
| It doesn't exist. | ||
| Something that I feel like more people should talk about, and I've noticed this pretty regularly, is whenever it's something really bad, you know how every news outlet, like when the New York Times put out that story, in minutes, CNN's got it on there. | ||
| New York Times just released, in minutes, the Guardians got live coverage of, oh, we read this and read this and read this. | ||
| And in at least a couple hours, Fox News... | ||
| Has taken their time. | ||
| Has really developed a good spin on it. | ||
| Trump says fake news! | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They are absolutely not involved in that breaking kind of news story. | ||
| It's gotta be massaged. | ||
| And that takes time. | ||
| And they're professionals. | ||
| They're really good at it. | ||
| And then with someone like Alex, it seems like this isn't even a story that he's interested in. | ||
| And instead he's hyping up this tablet op-ed and James O 'Keefe's attempt to change the narrative to being about Oh, Ilhan Omar and the Somalis are up to something. | ||
| So I think that that speaks to this being a very damaging, dangerous story. | ||
| Because otherwise, it seems like it would be much easier to spin. | ||
| And I think Alex might be of the mind. | ||
| Because it's inconceivable that he's unaware of it. | ||
| Yeah, no, no, no. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| At the very least, here's what he's doing. | ||
| I, too, have lost a lot of money. | ||
| I have paid more taxes than Trump. | ||
| I need to find his lawyers. | ||
| At the very least, that's his response to that. | ||
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Well, one of them's in prison. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| And the other's Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| He's great. | ||
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He's going to get you a solid tax refund. | |
| It's just such a simple story. | ||
| It's so easy to be like, hey, this guy's rich. | ||
| He didn't pay as much taxes than you. | ||
| Is that fair? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Grow up. | ||
| But it's also a story that would be really easy for Alex to spin, but I think that his spin would ultimately alienate his audience. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Who's super put upon by the Federal Reserve and thinks taxation is theft. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's like, okay, yeah, taxation is theft. | ||
| Great. | ||
| So we should be cool with this super billionaire playboy type not paying taxes. | ||
| Meanwhile, you get screwed if you don't pay your taxes. | ||
| I can't get over how many people. | ||
| And there's an astonishing number. | ||
| Who are like, fuck yeah, Trump. | ||
| Way to get your money away from the government. | ||
| Like, they're so happy that he only paid. | ||
| But how could you not expect that? | ||
| I mean, even in the... | ||
| Like, debates in 2016. | ||
| You talked about buying politicians and stuff. | ||
| Yeah, I buy politicians. | ||
| I don't pay taxes. | ||
| What am I, stupid? | ||
| Everybody's corrupt, and I know, because I paid them all. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| It's like, yeah, all right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| If people applauded that as opposed to being like, oh, you're part of the same problem that I'm supposed to be mad at, you know, there wasn't going to be a situation where it would be like, oh, this is bad. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| But it is, I don't know, I'm conflicted on whether I say that this is surprising or unsurprising. | ||
| Unsurprising that there's absolutely no mention of it in these three hours of his show. | ||
| Unsurprising. | ||
| Unsurprising to me. | ||
| What are you going to say about it? | ||
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I mean, he cheated the United States out of money. | |
| It's conspicuous, though, in its absence. | ||
| He lost, because one reason is, you have to then say, he lost a billion dollars. | ||
| And if it weren't for a TV show that he should never have been a part of, because it was entirely built around his image, which we know now, beyond a conceivable, reasonable doubt, is... | ||
| I mean, the one... | ||
| So like it's the scale of like the specifics of what are in those documents. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Covering is is we don't know the scope. | |
| What we have already proves that he's violating the Emoluments Clause from the beginning, which I am blown away, blown away, that our system exists in such a way that we can find out, like, 100%, the president was in violation of the Constitution from day fucking one, and they're still like, well, we have to deal with his three Supreme Court justices forever. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| I mean, sure, he broke the entire Constitution. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But we've just got to deal with those three Supreme Court justices forever. | ||
| That is strange. | ||
| It's just, we can't do... | ||
| No, it's no take-backsies, Dan. | ||
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We can't do... | |
| That is strange. | ||
| I think we need to deal with that somehow. | ||
| That's probably something to deal with. | ||
| The other thing that I think is really funny is that the picture that's painted by this Times article is very similar to the one that Alex painted in 2015. | ||
| Oh no, that was... | ||
| Someone is very similar, isn't it? | ||
| Where Alex said that he's not really rich and it's all a facade. | ||
| It does kind of seem like he kind of knew about that. | ||
| I bet Stone probably knew about that, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back, I guess, maybe for a debate spectacular. | ||
| Oh, my God, I hope not. | ||
| On Friday. | ||
| I'm so glad we're recording now so we have no reason to watch the debates. | ||
| Yeah, we're recording this during the debate. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| But, hey, before we get out of here, let's take some voicemails. | ||
| Oh, that'd be great. | ||
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Hey, TAT guys. | |
| My name is Toronto, and I'm from Georgia, and I, about two weeks ago, started working a job at a call center, which does political surveys, and I just thought I'd tell you, I get a couple of people who actually answer the phone and take the survey that sound a lot like Alex Jones listeners. | ||
| So, I want your opinion on a couple of people I've gotten. | ||
| The first... | ||
| Whack caller I got was an old guy who was probably kind of drunk, who I had to hang up on because he was saying slurs. | ||
| The second guy I got was a dude who answered the call by saying Trump 2020, took the survey, answered as much as you'd think, gave his opinion on everything, and at the end of the call told me not to trust anything I heard from either side as long as I was in college. | ||
| And the third guy was the most interesting. | ||
| He told me he had all night to take a survey, then proceeded to refuse to answer any of the questions and only would answer undecided or refused. | ||
| And then when I asked what his political party was, he told me socialist druid. | ||
| And all three of them, I was just like, if I mention Alex right now, What kind of response am I going to get? | ||
| And I also wanted to know, socialist druid, term you're familiar with? | ||
| That seems something very Alex-y. | ||
| I love the show. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| Do a great job, guys. | ||
| Dan, tell Selim she's perfect. | ||
| I'll pass that along to Selene, and she will have a big head. | ||
| She's gonna have a big head from that one. | ||
| It's gonna be so annoying. | ||
| I'm gonna have to tell you, unfortunately, socialist druids would be considered witches by Alex, so I don't think we're allowed there. | ||
| Nothing that involves socialists other than national socialists is going to be something Alex is never in line with. | ||
| Very bad, very bad, unless it's national socialism. | ||
| Those people sound like not fun calls to take. | ||
| Do you ever do telemarketing? | ||
| No, but I had to do cold calling whenever I first started out in the hearing aid business. | ||
| But those would probably be like the Glengarry leads, right? | ||
| A little bit, but they were the decidedly not Glengarry leads. | ||
| Like, I was still competing to get the Glengarry leads. | ||
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Right. | |
| So these were even, these were like brutal phone calls. | ||
| Yeah, it's like me calling somebody and being like, Hey, how you doing? | ||
| You want to spend three grand on something? | ||
| Come on in! | ||
| You got ear problems? | ||
| Come on! | ||
| I spent a little bit of time doing telemarketing. | ||
| I worked at two telemarketing companies in Missouri, and one was... | ||
| A nightmare. | ||
| I had to sell stamp machines. | ||
| Ooh, that's not good. | ||
| They were supposed to be everybody you're calling is a small business owner. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And like a stamp machine is a really smart thing to have if you have a need for it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But if you don't, nobody wants to talk to you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so, like, I'd be trying to explain to people what a stamp machine was, because this is before, like, stamps.com existed and everything. | ||
| And so I'm like, all right, so it's a machine. | ||
| You plug it into your phone, Jack, and you can download postage into it. | ||
| And they're like... | ||
| I have no idea what you're talking about. | ||
| Sir, I don't understand you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I just finished calling into InfoWars. | ||
| So that was tough. | ||
| I made a sale my first day, and that was something that was crazy. | ||
| And that was the last sale you've ever made? | ||
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Yes. | |
| No, I almost made another one, but then I torpedoed it myself. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because the person on the line, I could tell, was not really understanding what was going on, but was really into it. | ||
| You felt like it was immoral to sell them something? | ||
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Yes. | |
| You were like, you don't... | ||
| I don't understand this, so I can't in good conscience sell this. | ||
| You're a bad salesman. | ||
| I was. | ||
| You're a bad salesman. | ||
| Well, yes. | ||
| And so I screwed myself over on another commission there, and I didn't last too long there. | ||
| It was a terrible... | ||
| Not a surprise. | ||
| Terrible job. | ||
| And then I worked at another call center that was doing non-sales survey kind of calls, and I was calling for the Democratic congressional campaign. | ||
| sure committee and that you know they always tell you that like all these people are registered democrats sure and you just call people like hey why don't you go fuck yourself i love bush all right all right sorry okay all right this guy's not voting for carry it was a brutal time very very much i have nothing but empathy for people who work in those so awful so much abuse uh goes your way and uh yeah tough The worst. | ||
| Oh. | ||
|
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Hey, tap guys. | |
| This is Jordan from Montreal. | ||
| Bienvenue dans Montréal, Canada. | ||
| Great name, by the way, there, Jordan. | ||
| I'm just calling to say you guys are awesome, and I know I try to be my part, and you both make some very good points, but on this karaoke v. | ||
| no karaoke issue, I have to be on Team Jordan here. | ||
| And by the way, as a plant daddy, you've certainly heard the studies that plants grow better when you sing to them, right? | ||
| Before I called to lead this message, I looked it up on Google, and the first link did not disagree with me. | ||
| So in honor of your show being about Alex Jones and his research methods, I figured that was about as far in as I had to look. | ||
| So, I mean, that's it. | ||
| Just, you know, sing. | ||
| Sing to those plants, Dan. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| They'll grow better if you do. | ||
| Anyway, you guys are awesome. | ||
| Keep on doing what you're doing. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| Sing! | ||
| I would sooner sing to these plants than I would do karaoke. | ||
| I'll do that. | ||
| Damn, sing. | ||
| No, because here's why. | ||
| You belong to... | ||
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Look. | |
| Singing to plants is just the same as talking to plants. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And the reason that that helps is because CO2, you give off whenever you speak. | ||
| Oh, we're gonna do science now. | ||
| We're gonna do science. | ||
| We record a podcast around the plants. | ||
| And we record a podcast that believes in the power of song, Dan. | ||
| We might as well be singing for like two hours in front of these plants. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| They don't need song. | ||
| You don't belong in the city. | ||
| No, I don't. | ||
| You don't. | ||
| I belong in the country. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
|
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What's up, Pat, guys? | |
| This is Craig from the Rez. | ||
| I just had a question. | ||
| You guys were talking about hydrogen peroxide, which is a failed scam, by the way, and you're talking about huffing it, I think, but it sounded like Dan kept on saying hoofing, and I was wondering if that's an accent thing or if he was using a different word or a different slang that I don't know. | ||
| Also, I did get my vitamin D levels checked, and the allergist said they're the lowest he'd ever seen and congratulated me. | ||
| I thought that was weird. | ||
| That is weird. | ||
| That is weird. | ||
| You should get a new doctor. | ||
| I was talking about putting hydrogen peroxide on the foot of a mule and then letting it kick you. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about. | ||
| That's what you do. | ||
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You get a hoof. | |
| That's what Dr. Mercolo was suggesting people do. | ||
| No, I don't know. | ||
| I guess I've never really known what the term is. | ||
| Honestly, I only used it the way you did because I thought it was some sort of slang from Missouri. | ||
| It's huffing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, you know, you huff paint thinner, like that kind of thing. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| I thought you had some sort of Missouri slang and you were just pronouncing that way, so I was like, yeah, I'll go in Rome. | ||
| I'll go along with it. | ||
| Maybe it is. | ||
| Maybe, I don't know. | ||
| I've always called it, like, huffing. | ||
| Have you only read it before? | ||
| Have you never huffed anything? | ||
| No. | ||
| Never huffed gasoline? | ||
| Huh, that's an interesting question. | ||
| I would be interested. | ||
| When you were at the car wash, you huffed something. | ||
| No, I mean, I probably was exposed to some fumes. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I didn't take any drugs intentionally at the car wash when I worked there for that short period of time. | ||
| No, I mean, I think I've done some inhalants at some point in my life. | ||
| You've done some whippets? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Some like amyl nitrates. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| But like way back. | ||
| I mean, there was a period of time where it was like anything. | ||
| A couple years ago? | ||
| Much longer back than that. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| But no, I remember I had a friend who got into ether a little bit. | ||
| And that seemed scary. | ||
| That seemed really scary. | ||
| That's such an intimidating thing. | ||
| I got a friend who got into ether and you're like, okay, shake your hands, goodnight. | ||
| I'm gonna get out of here. | ||
| So no, I don't know. | ||
| Hoof, hoof, who cares? | ||
|
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Yo, tat guys, what's up? | |
| It's Aaron from Missouri calling in. | ||
| I just wanted to say I'm a huge fan of your show. | ||
| I've been listening for about a year and a half now. | ||
| After I started searching out some sources on Alex Jones' insanity while I was working for a guy doing tile out in Colorado who loved Alex Jones, thought he was a genius. | ||
| And because of that, I might have some insight on the recent technical difficulties. | ||
| According to him, Alex has been looking pretty heavily for some interns to come in, you know, younger people in college and just out of college, to come in and, you know, cut their teeth on the production floor of InfoWars. | ||
| He, of course, suggested that I do this, and he said, I think your values are really in line with Alex Jones. | ||
| And this is despite me arguing with him, just about every chance I could get about old AJ. | ||
| So yeah, that might have something to do with the technical difficulties. | ||
| I think he's got a bunch of low or unpaid team labor going on over there. | ||
| So, just a thought. | ||
| Also, shout out to my buddy Dylan. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Thanks for being my best bud and sharing a love of knowledge fight. | ||
| Alright, thanks Dan. | ||
| Thanks Jordan. | ||
| Bye. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| That checks out. | ||
| Yeah, I would have... | ||
| Like, that was kind of what I thought was going on. | ||
| There's no way somebody who's been in the business for ten years is gonna be like, well, InfoWars is where I'm gonna finally retire. | ||
| Yeah, and no way that someone with a lot of experience would be like, well, Skype just fucks up sometimes. | ||
| I'm a professional, and what do you gotta do? | ||
| Somebody in the booth looking at Alex just being like, I don't know. | ||
| Just shrugging. | ||
| Yeah, I guess we can't really take that as gospel since it's just someone calling in and saying that, but it would make sense. | ||
| No, I vibe with that being true. | ||
| You know what else, though? | ||
| What? | ||
| Checks out. | ||
| What? | ||
| A guy who is contracting laying tile telling you about Alex. | ||
| That does check out. | ||
| In my history, that checks out very clearly. | ||
| A guy who runs a car wash telling you about Alex. | ||
| Yes, all of these. | ||
| I'm a general contractor with a crew of 15-year-olds. | ||
| Yeah, you're going to say some Alex Jones shit. | ||
| Probably. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Hey, tech guys. | ||
| This is Gator from Oklahoma City, and I love your show, and I love you, Dan and Jordan. | ||
| I've been trying to introduce some of my comrades to this show to really investigate the right-wing grip. | ||
| They don't really give a fuck, though, which is a shame. | ||
| But I'm mostly called because I am going to shamelessly plug. | ||
| So, in Oklahoma City... | ||
| There's an organization called the Oklahoma Street Medics, of which I am in charge, and we do protest support, and Jordan seemed to give a lot of support for the protest, and so please plug us, or don't. | ||
| I'll be sad if you don't, but whatever. | ||
| Anyway, that's Oklahoma Street Medics. | ||
| Find us on Facebook and all that. | ||
| Thanks so much, you guys. | ||
| I love the show. | ||
| Keep doing the good work. | ||
| Okay, bye! | ||
| Jordan, that person's name was Gator. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Do you know, it could be Ruth Gator Binsburg. | ||
| No! | ||
| Get out of here! | ||
| Is it Ruth Gator? | ||
| It could be Ruth Gator Binsburg. | ||
| Oh, goddammit! | ||
| I knew she was gonna call in. | ||
| Um, yeah, hey, uh, in terms of this stuff, it's really always very difficult for me, um, because, um, with specific... | ||
| Giving specifics on where people should donate always rings false with me. | ||
| Because there's a lot of things that deserve attention. | ||
| Far more than I would ever be able to enumerate. | ||
| And also there's so many things that are localized that are very difficult to find. | ||
| And we have people who are in foreign countries and all around the country who listen to our show. | ||
| And the priorities for everybody in their own communities and in their areas is very difficult for me to think I have any real understanding of. | ||
| So whenever we say, like, donate to local charity in your area, the reason that I don't get more specific about it is because for you, the person listening, it might be something that I could have no idea about. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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And I don't want to take our audience and monetize it towards even a good cause. | |
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| In, let's say, the Chicago food dispensary or depository. | ||
| That's something that I will donate to. | ||
| I don't want all of our listeners to donate to them at the expense of things in your area. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But that said, I'm also not averse to people like Gator calling in and promoting something that's important to them. | ||
| It's a balance. | ||
| It's something that's incredibly difficult to know what to do with. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| I try and focus on... | ||
| Personally, my two things are, especially right now, food and housing. | ||
| So I try and look out organizations in Chicago and really research the shit. | ||
| Because a lot of them... | ||
| Not a lot of them, but there are some places that you can give money to that are fucking bullshit. | ||
| So do some research on that. | ||
| But as far as protests and stuff go... | ||
| Medics are huge. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| Medics are huge, and I would absolutely strongly recommend people do that. | ||
| Medics and citizen journalist types are very important to support as best you can. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And the only reason that I don't get too specific about stuff is because I honestly also think that part of being involved and engaged is the process of finding a thing And being able to tell whether it's legitimate or not. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| It's very difficult, but also it's part of engagement. | ||
| And for me to spoon-feed that to you would be kind of disrespectful on my part because then you're just taking my word for what lines up with your priorities and your position. | ||
| Yeah, don't just give money. | ||
| Engage with what you're giving money to. | ||
| I think it's the best way to... | ||
| You know, be a part of it. | ||
| Yeah, I think that that's the best way for it to be sincere, it to be gratifying, and for you to be comfortable knowing that what you're doing is making a difference in the way that you want it to. | ||
|
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Totally. | |
| And that... | ||
| Balancing the responsibility of, I know a lot of people are listening and I can hopefully encourage them to donate to charitable causes. | ||
| We want you to do good, of course. | ||
| And also knowing that I could steer people towards something irresponsibly. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's a hard line to walk, and the way that I think I can be best on the right side of it is just to say, look into stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Donate to people in need in your area. | ||
| You know, I can give you all of my, like, pet charities and causes and all that stuff, but you don't have my dog. | ||
| Don't get my pet charities and causes. | ||
| Get your own pet charities and causes. | ||
| Yeah, it's a hard line to know exactly where it is. | ||
| And maybe we could do a little better. | ||
| If you can give, give. | ||
| And I will also say that, like I think I already have, if people want to call in and plug something in particular, I am more than fine with them doing that. | ||
|
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Not Kmart, though. | |
| Not Kmart. | ||
| Not Kmart. | ||
| If Kmart... | ||
| Mark tricked us. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| So, Jordan, we'll be back on Friday, but until then, we have a website. | ||
| We do have a website. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep, we're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight, and I go to bed, Jordan. | ||
| We're also on Facebook. | ||
| We are on Facebook! | ||
| If you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area. | ||
| And if you're in Oklahoma City, you know where to go. | ||
| You can also call in. | ||
| I don't cite the number enough. | ||
| So if you want to call in and leave a message, you can. | ||
| It's at 773-TAT-GUYS. | ||
| That is the number. | ||
|
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Indeed. | |
| We'll be back, Jordan. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZXClark. | ||
| I'm Daryl Rundis. | ||
| I'm humanity! | ||
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Wake up! | |
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |