Knowledge Fight - #487: September 28, 2020

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#487: September 28, 2020

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#487: September 28, 2020 dissects Alex Jones’ conspiracy claims—misrepresenting a Tablet article as proof of China’s "new world order" COVID plot, falsely accusing Pelosi of a 12th Amendment-defying presidency, and amplifying David Icke’s unevidenced "cyborg tyranny" theories. Ignoring Project Veritas’ flawed ballot-harvesting narrative and his own past contradictions (like supporting UK police crackdowns while mocking Portland protesters), Jones pivots to dismissing a NYT emoluments clause story about David Rockefeller, despite his 2015 denial of the billionaire’s wealth. Voicemails reveal callers’ bizarre overlaps with fringe activism, underscoring how Jones’ platform thrives on distrust and performative outrage while sidestepping facts—perpetuating a cycle where conspiracy theories outlast accountability. [Automatically generated summary]
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Speaker	Time	Text
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I have great respect for knowledge fight.
		Knowledge fight.
		I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
		Shang, me are the bad guys.
		Knowledge and fight.
unidentified		Dan and Jordan.
unidentified		Knowledge fight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Need I need money.
		Andy and Pansy.
		Andy and Pandy.
		Andy and Kansas.
		Andy in Kansas.
unidentified		Andy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's time to pray.
		Andy in Kansas.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Thanks for all those.
		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a fake pin color.
		I'm here today.
aaron in missouri ▲ ● ▼		And I love your room.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Knowledge fight.
		Knowledgefight.com.
		I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
		Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
		I'm Dan.
		I'm Jordan.
		We're a couple dudes.
		Looks at Ramjick Novelty Beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Dan?
unidentified		Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have a quick question.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's up?
aaron in missouri ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is your bright spot?
		Why don't you go first?
		My bright spot today, Dan, is my beautiful dog, Fanny, who is the cutest dog in the world.
unidentified		Debatable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Contrary to what some other people may say.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm a naysayer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		One many dog shows.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Certified cute.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's cute.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a cute dog.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She has had problems with her eyes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She hasn't been producing tears as much as other dogs to a terrible extent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe she's been in a good mood.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, we've been.
		No, that's not quite true.
		No, we've been doing these drops for about a month now.
		We went back for a checkup appointment.
		Fanny is doing great, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Best case scenario is what the fancy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So I'm very excited.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is great.
		Yes.
		Whenever an animal is doing poorly, it's a huge stress.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a nightmare.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whenever you come out of that, it's really real.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She's happy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's happy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I remember.
		When Celine, when I first brought her into the home, she had some eye issues herself.
		You know, she only has one eye.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the one eye that was missing was like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What was her eye issue?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Astigmatism?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think so.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, she, you know, the eye that she was missing was like swelling up, and it was really bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When that all got resolved, it was such an unbelievable release.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's incredible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Congratulations to you amazing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And your dog partner family.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How about you?
unidentified		What?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How about you?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's your bright spot?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My bright spot comes in the form of mailbags.
		You know, Jordan, it's really interesting.
		This mailbag experiment has been full of some things that you expect, like some nice seltzers show up from time to time.
		And then sometimes things that are like completely out of left field that are pretty cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we got the Dodgers left field.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we did.
		We got a couple things.
		First, Mary Catherine sent a bag of Ghost Pepper popcorn.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did you try that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We haven't tried it, but you and I need to try it at some point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was thinking about doing a couple of things that are like heat challenges.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I know that right now there's like this chocolate bar or whatever.
		You know, that one chip challenge thing, too.
		I know that people like Jared Holt do like it for charity.
		Like him and the one chip for charity kind of thing.
		I was just thinking we could just.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I feel like I'm getting cheated out of a lot of chips in this circumstance.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's like really hot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like painfully hot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not a chocolate chip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But there's also a really hot chocolate bar that is the same sort of thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was thinking, like, I just want to eat it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, of course you want to try it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you want to give to charity, go for it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For sure, for sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I need an excuse to just try it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I was thinking about that.
		Maybe that Ghost Pepper popcorn could be involved in something like that.
		Because now that you're a guy who can handle spice, I feel like maybe there's a lot more territory we can explore there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's almost a cop-out that the episode I discovered that I can handle heat, it was a lost episode.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is a little uncertain.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're not being able to prove it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, we know in our heart of hearts that it was there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Would I lie to you, Dan?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Depends on about what.
		Maybe.
		Fair enough.
		So the next thing that we have that is really super unexpected is this really interesting Kagagami High, I believe.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not entirely sure how to pronounce this, but it is a humorous role-playing game about Japanese schoolgirls in a school full of conspiracies and the unexplained.
		It was a creation of a listener named Aaron Clooney.
		It set this in, and I'm tempted to want to try and play it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I read through the whole thing.
		There's some very funny character descriptions, and one of the big things is describing all of the settings that they can take place in.
		Some of those were very, very funny.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's pretty good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have not had a chance to read through much of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've leafed through a tiny bit, and it seems like I have not had a lot of experience in the realm of role-playing games.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think the first time you experience a role-playing game, you should be a Japanese high school girl.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In a school full of conspiracies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the only thing that makes sense to me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the final thing here in the bag is, I'm going to read this here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Please do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Dear Dan and Jordan, whilst doing background research into possible ideas for a text adventure, I came across the enclosed item and instantly thought of you guys.
		This is an original flyer for a concert in honor of ex-president George Bush Sr. by the lake at the Bohemian Grove the weekend after Alex Jones gate crashed the place in July 2000.
		I imagine the security detail of the Grove was far higher than the weekend before.
unidentified		Probably.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All the best, Dan from Newcastle, UK.
		If you look behind you, it's up there on the wall now.
		I framed it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's an amazing flyer for a band concert celebrating George Bush Sr.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's surreal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you can't see it because it's in the frame, but on the back of it, there's just like the program.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like, that's a real flyer that has like who played the bassoon that night.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Insane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely insane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And one of the things I think is really, really cool about that is it goes so far towards showing that this isn't the secretist of society.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If they're letting conductor Norbert Mulder in there, Norbert, then we're definitely able to get in at any point in time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're printing up these things that have all the credits for everybody who put on their pageants.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're not trying to keep that too under wrap.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Guest conductor's name was Skitch Henderson.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If a Skitch is getting into Bohemian Grove, you know it's not a secret society.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What a fucking murderer's row.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You got Skitch and Norbert.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You got the classic conductor duo of Skitch and Norbert.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I just think that's really awesome.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And in terms of things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who's on first chair?
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So we're going to keep on moving.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In terms of things to decorate the space in the studio, I can think of a few things that are cooler than, you know, like we've got a painting of Leo Zagami.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		get a flyer from the bohemian grove like it's just like yeah This is shaping up quite nicely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, this is turning into one of those like, oh, accidentally I've been working on figurines for my entire life, so my entire room is just filled with nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And you're like, this is great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		InfoWars magazine, Tyranny Slapper 1.
		It's just great.
		Great.
		I love it.
		So thank you so much, Dan, Aaron, and Mary Catherine.
		We appreciate you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Delightful gifts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Jordan, today, what we got in front of us is a little episode where we're going to be talking about what Alex Jones was up to on September 28th, 2020.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is 2020.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God damn it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, the reason for the 28th is because the night before the story of Trump's taxes in the New York Times broke.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so, obviously, you know, it's kind of interesting to see what maybe Alex says.
		You would think.
		And then also, I didn't want to do the 29th because today, as we're recording this on Tuesday, is the night of the debate.
		Right.
		And Alex is doing a live stream all day for the debate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so maybe on Friday, we'll do a debate and debate aftermath kind of episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But for now, I just figured like the 28th, let's see.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		New York Times has put out this expose.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What did it be?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So here we go.
		You're going to get into it.
		But first, you got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up in our sporting show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So first, Stephen M., thank you so much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Stephen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Next, Patrick D. Thank you so much.
		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, Patrick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Next, Bredi or Not, Here I Crumb.
		Thank you so much.
		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, Brady.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Next, Dr. Bill, thank you so much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Dr. Bill.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Next, Rachel C.R., thank you so much.
		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, Rachel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Next, Commander Holly.
		All one word.
		Thank you so much.
		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, Kareem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Commander Holly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Next, Tim M. Thank you so much.
		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Tim.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on Elevated Level.
		We appreciate that very much.
		So first, Som, S-O-M, last initial K. Thank you so much.
		You are now a technocrat.
		And Dan didn't read my joke name when I became a policy wonk.
		Thank you so much.
		You are now a technocrat.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
		Crikey, mate.
		That's fantastic.
		Have yourself a brew.
		How's your 401k doing, bro?
		We got to go full-tailed boogie on this, Watson, all right?
		Let's just get down to business.
		We ain't making that money off that heroin.
		Why are you pimps so good?
		My neck is freakishly large.
		I declare, hands fall war on you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much, Som, and thank you so much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Dan didn't read my joke name when I became a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoy the show, I'd like to support these gents, too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, you could.
		Or, Dan, what you could do is you could take that generous spirit, all right, get yourself a mortar and pestle, put some herbs from the garden in there, maybe get a little wormwort, all right?
		Ground that all up into a tiny little paste, all right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is wormwort a thing?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it's totally a thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think you think of wormwood.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm thinking of wormwort with a W-O-R-T on it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you looking up whether wormwort exists right now?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You bet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alrighty.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So what you do is you get that and you grind it into a little bit of a paste, turn it into a poultice, Dan, and you use that poultice to heal the ills of society via giving your generous money to a bail fund or a local charity.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate how you landed that, but I do need to point out that if you Google Wormwort, the first thing it says is, did you mean wormwood?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a wormwort isn't a thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is totally a thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's apparently not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wormwort.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Worm's wart is something from Disney.
		It's an object from the Nightmare Before Christmas.
		It's an ingredient in The Nightmare Before Christmas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a fictional ingredient.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I genuinely might be thinking of Lord of the Rings here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it's Nightmare Before Christmas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it just Nightmare Before Christmas?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Worms Wart is the last ingredient Sally uses for the soup that makes Dr. Finkelstein's slumber.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that's why you need to put it into your generous poultice, Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why have I always thought that's a thing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's wrong with me?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's also a thing when I was like nine years old.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's also a beer apparently put up by Rawr Brewing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I hope I wasn't drinking that when I was nine years old.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a micro brew out of Maryland.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that probably is out of my price ale.
unidentified		So probably not good for a kid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So probably nine before Christmas.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Could be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Could be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
		Possible.
		So, Jordan, today, like I said, we're going to be going over this 28th episode.
		And I mean, the big thing is the night before Trump's tech story broke.
		Sure, sure.
		And so we're really interested in finding out what Alex's response to that is.
		And here's an out-of-context drop from today's show.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		When I've been scammed, I admit it.
		I warn others.
		What I noticed with amateurs, people that never grow, is they never want to admit when they've been conned.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This has nothing to do with Trump's tech story.
unidentified		This is totally the emails again.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is like there's a Nigerian prince.
		Totally.
		This is the Nigerian Prince again, isn't it?
		It's totally that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not in relation to anything, but it does make me think that Alex has been screwed over by a few of those cons.
unidentified		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So today we start off, and Alex got up pretty early this morning on the 28th.
		And he's got chills.
		They're multiplying.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This morning, when I got up at 5:30 and read the Paul Joseph Watson article and then clicked on the actual document, I had electrical chills run up and down my spine for about three minutes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I never had it run up my story.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Check your search protectors.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because in the document was the absolute keys to total victory over the new world order.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to be talking about that coming up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Weird noise.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a little bit of a horse kind of action going on there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like Mr. Ed figuring out what taxes mean.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, whenever I see something and I get excited, I get a chill up my spine.
unidentified		Three minutes of chills.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a long time.
		That might be a little bit too long.
		Yeah.
		That might be a go-to-your doctor length of chills.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's an absurd amount of time for you to be experiencing what would be like your hair on your arm raising up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, like that experience for three minutes would be a lifetime.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is a scalar attack, if I've ever heard one in my entire life.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whenever your foot falls asleep, it feels like it's three minutes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's terrible.
		It lasts for 40 seconds.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		It's nothing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, there's some sort of a report that Alex has read that is like really just like, oh, sure it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't get to that immediately because he's got other headlines he wants to talk about.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And now it's official.
		Pelosi came out last night.
		Angie Pelosi prepares for House of Representatives' vote to elect the president under the Constitution if they cannot decide the election, according to problems with the voting by January 20th, and they will hold a vote the day after on who the new president is, and the House of Representatives will elect the president.
		That's never happened before in our 244 years of history.
aaron in missouri ▲ ● ▼		Not true.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But here it is, voila.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And so that's one of their main plans.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Immediately, you like just fuck you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Alex is reporting on a story that was covered in NPR where they discussed how Pelosi sent out a fundraising letter urging people to support Democratic candidates in Battleground Districts through the House Majority Political Action Committee.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She warned that it was essential to have more Democrats in the House in case the election does end up being decided by the House vote, which it would be if the winner weren't determined by January 6th, 2021, when they need to validate the Electoral College.
unidentified		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She only sent out this letter in response to comments Trump made at a rally in Pennsylvania where he said, Quote, I don't want to go back to Congress either, even though we have an advantage if we go to Congress.
		It's counted one vote per state, so we actually have an advantage.
		According to the Constitution, the House vote for a presidency does not go by actual House members.
		The representatives from each state combine to form a delegation, which then gets a single vote.
		As it stands now, if things broke down on purely party lines, the GOP would win a contested election that was decided by the House, which is what Trump was talking about, which is what Nick Pelosi was referring to with her fundraising letter.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is not Pelosi's coup plan.
		It's her trying to raise money to elect more Democrats by warning that this is clearly something that Trump may try to use to his advantage in the case of a contested election, but that if there were a majority of Democratic delegations, this plan would not work.
		As always, Alex is taking the Democratic response to something Trump says and claiming it's proof of their plans.
		Now, to what your response was.
		For a scholar of American history, Alex certainly doesn't know much about American history.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, a lot of it disagrees with what he wants it to be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know his favorite president, the one he cites fake quotes from all the time?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know Thomas Jefferson?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you mean Jefferson Davis?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope, Thomas Jefferson.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was named president by the House of Representatives in the United States.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But he says who?
		Says who?
		Prove it.
		Three senators approved the Fed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the 1800 election, he was named president by the House.
		Sure.
		Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr had died in the Electoral College, so the decision was made by a vote in the House.
		This experience, along with other frustrations about how elections were carried out, led to the passage of the 12th Amendment, which, in addition to other issues it resolved, it made it so electors would cast separate votes for president and vice president, whereas previously they just cast votes, and whoever got the most was president, and whoever came in second was vice president, which is a dumb system.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Incredibly dumb.
		It was amazing.
		It was kind of amazing how stupid it was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So after the passage of the 12th Amendment in the 1824 election, the House elected John Quincy Adams, who actually ended up second place in the Electoral College behind Andrew Jackson.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jackson believed he was the victim of a conspiracy between Adams and Speaker of the House Henry Clay, which will ultimately be the argument of anyone who loses an election that ends up in the House of Representatives.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In some ways, though, he kind of was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that's because he was a terrifying idea of a president, and when he became president, he was a terrifying monster of a president.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you go back and you look at the circumstances surrounding the 1824 election, that contention of like, they teamed up against me, maybe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you were a threat to the very existence of the republic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So there's a little bit of a column A. Columbi situation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Leaving that aside, Alex would be right if he said that the House voting for the president has never happened in modern American history, but they did come into play in past elections more than zero times.
		If Alex wanted to say this, it would be a hugely out-of-the-ordinary event to have happen.
		He could do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he doesn't know anything about history, and he wants to really overhype this as a never-before kind of thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he ends up just sounding like an idiot that even, like, I'm not saying that you're stupid, but even you just casually listen to it and be like, nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Next.
		Next.
		Fortunately for Alex, pretty much all of his listeners have no idea about history either, so they don't have that same response that you do, like, oh, fuck yourself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, a lot of history disagrees with what they believe, so why would you learn about it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a terrible idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or it's like, wait, that happened?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I do think if more people learned our early American history all the way up until like, what would the modern era, like 1918 or something like that, just be, if they learned how stupid America was, they'd be like, oh, the founding fathers were not great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Familiarity with that part of history makes you admire certain aspects of history and historical figures, but it also erodes the American exceptionalist idea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like it really disabuses you of the notion that like, oh, we're so great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They were a bunch of dumb-dumbs fundable of fumbling around.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But they probably had a lot of chills.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For three minutes at least.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's my way of transitioning that Alex is back to talking about Chili.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I am constantly having chills now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I liken that to the Alexander.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go to the Doctor.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Lord of the Rings when they've got the Elf Sword, the Goblin Cleaver.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		When goblins are here, it starts glowing blue.
unidentified		That's not called the Global Fever.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Glowing and shimmering.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's called Sting.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And also, when you know you've got a chance to bring the enemy down, your spirit resonates and tells you danger, danger, or tells you this is key, this is key.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't they have a plan B?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is kill everyone Zoom.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Shortly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So you have Goblins.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Chills.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You got Goblin Cleaver that's giving you chills forever because you have a chance to destroy the enemy, but you yourself have already made clear that you're only able to stop plan A. Even still plan B. Even he would be like, listen, I was just in a bad mood, okay?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was in a bad mood, so I made up plan B. We're still on plan A.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would suggest that he should do that because that would be taking responsibility for the fact that he, like, when I get in a bad mood, I say the globalists are going to murder everybody.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we can move forward with that awareness that sometimes you talk about the apocalypse when you're bummed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would be good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I had a really bad day, so I assumed everyone was going to die, and I kind of want it to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would be helpful context for people to navigate this sort of material with.
		Anyway, the document that Alex is talking about and he's having a chill fit about is an article in Tablet magazine titled, quote, China's Global Lockdown Propaganda Campaign.
		Alex believes that it's about how China made up the idea that public health measures should be taken in response to COVID-19 and how the globalists are using the virus for social control.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Naturally, I don't think that Alex has read this article, which is actually about how the Chinese government has been waging a campaign on social media to promote their own response to the virus and make themselves look better in hindsight.
		Right, right, right, right.
		It's an interesting article that drifts from pretty concrete stuff, like how the Chinese government clearly paid for bots to promote their response to the virus and attract critics.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then it gets into some pretty speculative territory, like the idea that she is paying those bots to promote the locking down of the world in order to help bring about a socialist world with China at the center of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hold on right there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think there's some assumptions being made along those lines.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I read this article and my take on it is that it's interesting.
		It brings up some interesting things, and it's definitely wise to be wary of the Chinese government.
		But a lot of the speculations in the article are not earned.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ah, you know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The article is written by a guy named Michael Senger.
		His only published article on Tablet or anywhere else, as best I can tell, is this one.
		And the only link in his bio is to a Twitter account.
		His Twitter account, which has opened in August 2013, but the earliest tweet that appears in the timeline is from June 30th, 2020, and is a retweet of something posted by Nikki Haley about China.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All of his tweets, just everything since then has been about China being bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Interestingly, you can find his LinkedIn page fairly easily, and it turns out he's a, quote, federal and international tax lawyer, which makes his expertise just slightly outside the realm of China's trying to run a PSIOP to control the world theory.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what international tax law would draw you to that conclusion.
		You know what I'm saying?
		Like, is there a certain tax code that's like, if you violate this tax code, we know it's a propaganda campaign to try and turn the world into a social media.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you sure?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't have anything to go on here outside of like just everything I can tell makes me think that this guy writing an article doesn't have that much weight.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But a lot of the things that are brought up are interesting.
		Sure.
		Just like when it drifts into like, this is all fake kind of stuff.
		It's like, well, yeah.
		So that's kind of Alex's big narrative.
		A lot of it is like, oh my God, we've found the smoking gun.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That China has run this as a takeover-the-world operation from the beginning, and it's an op-ed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Does the op-ed mention China creating vampires and hiding them within their homes and plating them up with metal?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The jury is still out on that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, goddamn it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, sorry I don't have anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's got to be vampires.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's got to be vampires.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope, but there are chills.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And my spidey sense, and I know your spidey sense is like blue lightning right now.
		It is on fire.
		But of course, you can see why it's on fire right in front of you.
unidentified		Can't do the show right now, ladies and gentlemen.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Look at these headlines.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Nancy Pelosi says she will decide who the president of the United States is and may install herself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that is a wow.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would definitely say wow to that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If she had said that, I too would say wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is conflating two things there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The first is the idea that as Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi is third in line for the presidency after the vice president in the event that there needs to be like a transference of power.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The second thing is that idea that the House may vote on who wins the 2020 election if it's not decided by January 6th.
		Alex knows literally nothing about history or civics, so he's just pretending that Nancy Pelosi could install herself as president because she's in the line of continuity of government.
		This is stupid because there are rules to how the House can operate when they're voting for president.
		This is very clear if you know anything about American history.
		The House can only vote for candidates who are the top three vote receivers in the general election.
		So it wouldn't even be possible for Pelosi to vote for herself in the case that the decision goes to the House.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It would, however, be possible for Joe Jorgensen to surprisingly win the 2020 election.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This actually came up in the 1824 election.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Andrew Jackson.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When Joe Jorgensen won.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Andrew Jackson and John Quincy Adams were the two top vote getters, but people were concerned that Henry Clay would be able to win it once it went to the House because he was the Speaker of the House and he was a pretty powerful congressional figure.
		Sure.
		However, Clay wasn't able to even be considered since he'd come in fourth in the general election and was thus disqualified for a House vote.
		Clay would go on to support Adams, hence Jackson's contention that he lost due to the result of a conspiracy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A contention that was strengthened when Adams made Henry Clay his Secretary of State.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There is, you know, I don't think we've ever had corruption in our government before in the past.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can't think of any people who have been friends of the president who've suddenly got cushy diplomat jobs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a while.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what I was thinking?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's wild.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what I was thinking about?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How little I take the time to examine the fact that JFK was president and his brother was the Attorney General.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that kind of fucked up talking about it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's been so normalized by history.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are you second?
		Well, the problem is, I think what happened was it turned out RFK accidentally turned into a good person.
		Like at the beginning of the administration, everybody's like, holy shit, this guy's a fucking lunatic.
		And then he became a good person.
		Everybody's like, eh, we'll just forget about it.
		You're fine.
		You're a good dude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's staggering to me to now imagine a president being like, here's my brother.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Debank of Trump is our new fucking attorney general.
unidentified		Like, hold on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or even go with a Democratic administration that you're in favor of to more degree than a Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Imagine if Michelle Obama was the AG.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the same basic thing.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but when you realize that a president was also a sitting Supreme Court justice, you're like, this can't be real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's all these quirks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, anyway, it's literally spelled out in the 12th Amendment that only the top three vote receivers could be considered for the House in the case that they have to vote for the president.
		We've seen it play out in past elections, so this is not unprecedented.
		Alex just seems to know nothing about the Constitution or history because if he did, it would be incredibly embarrassing for him to get on air and suggest that somehow Nancy Pelosi could install herself as president by way of this House vote.
		She couldn't be considered for that vote.
		And even if she could, the GOP would win a House delegate vote in the current House.
		So this would never happen.
		It's just Alex talking shit.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just talking shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, pretty much exactly.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex is pretty excited because David Icke has been putting on speeches in the UK against COVID restrictions and what have you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they're doing great, I hear.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One of the things that Alex has been making a big deal out of is police being maybe something you might describe as brutal against the protesters.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Murderous.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, the brutality that's being directed at protesters at David Icke rallies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He seems to be in favor of it when it's against people in Portland or Black Lives Matter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He thinks it's the worst thing in the world when it's being directed towards.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I feel like there's something inconsistent about that, but I can't put my hand on it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There might be a little something, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So anyway, here's a clip of David Icke's speech from one of those rallies that Alex played.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I am the Lizard King.
		It's close.
		It's close.
unidentified		People, human family across the world can.
		It's not what they have been telling you.
		And what the human family has done is allow the psychopaths to hijack our imagination of ourselves.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		The human family is coming together.
		We've got our differences.
		We've had our fights, but we're humans.
		We're red-blooded.
		What we're facing is not of this world and seeks to end our reign on this planet.
		And I know victory will be ours.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right, buddy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		How many millions are going to die in the process?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that's no.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Stop right there.
		Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us.
		Oh, a lot of people are going to die in this fight.
unidentified		Jesus!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Is it going to be 500 million or is it going to be 7 million?
unidentified		What about 8?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Could it be 8?
		They're going to wipe out humanity down to 500 million.
		That's so the idiots going along with it think they're going to survive.
		They're going to be killed too.
		And as soon as they figure it out, a lot of them are going to be forced to join us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Citation, the Georgia Geyser.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex, come on, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Man, it seems like he should be very aware, though, that he has also been the victim of exactly that sick situation.
		Like, he was supporting Trump because he thought he was going to be taken along with the ride.
		And then Trump abandoned him and tossed him to the wolves.
		Does he not draw a one-to-one parallel between those two things?
		Is that not possible for him?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, we heard in the out-of-context drop that when he gets conned, he admits it and feels straight up about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Try to warn everybody else.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I realize now that he's fixed it.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Boog.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I love like David Icke in that clip is just like, you think you're in a fucking movie.
unidentified		Away, man!
unidentified		Let the beasts upon us discover the need to tremble in fear.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're playing a character now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is absurd.
unidentified		Isn't that ridiculous?
unidentified		That Alex comes in and was like, oh, man, we're fighting alien demons.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, it's so bad.
		It's so bad.
		It's just really unfortunate.
		I feel like using our skills as comedians, just as public speakers, we could run circles around David Icke.
		We could just lie like him.
		It would be easy.
		Just say a bunch of movie lines.
		We don't have this is our Independence Day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We don't have the benefit of the years of baggage that David Icke has.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And in that speech, he does talk about how, like, they laughed at me on the street for years.
unidentified		Still do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Still do, David.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was once a pariah banned from YouTube and Twitter.
unidentified		Back in the day, the only place I could post videos were BitChute and Alex Jones' website.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But now, I say, oh, no, it's the same shit.
		Oh, fuck shit.
		You guys better awaken real hard.
unidentified		Real fast.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Real quick.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that this is really sad when you think back to those old videos of Alex where he was like, someone like David Icke is a turd in the punch bowl.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like, you're celebrating the exact things that you used to say were meant to make your world look bad.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Your conspiracy, right-wing patriot world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You are now the turd in the punch bowl.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it only makes sense that you're spending your time celebrating David Icke's dumb speeches.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, if you're also a turd in the punch bowl, there's nothing that can make you look worse than a turd in the punch bowl.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So you and the other turds in the punch bowl might as well get together.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, in his late 20s, Alex probably felt like there was a chance that that wouldn't be the trajectory that his career had to go.
		And now he's seems like he's run out of creativity, run out of options.
		Fuck it.
		Let's be shit in the punch bowl.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Speaking of turds and punch bowls.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So I'm going to use the Veritas thing where they caught Ilon Omar.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, fuck off.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Red-handed just bragging.
		And now they're harvesting the ballots.
		Now they're doing all these scams.
		And I mean, this is what Ilon Omar's name is crime.
		I mean, she comes from a crime syndicate family.
		She thinks it's funny.
		She's funded by Soros.
		That's all coming up.
		Briefly, this is a critical area to keep us on air.
		They have been trying to shut us down for a long time, you know that.
		And folks have really been coming through and buying a lot of products.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's got sales.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to say that I think I've probably reached the point where Project Veritas releases don't even intrigue me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm so mad.
		I'm so mad.
		People are still.
		No, no, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not even interested in what the lie is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		Absolutely not.
		That's what I'm mad at: people, I'm still reading about it.
		Like, the only headline that I should read about Project Veritas is: Project Veritas releases video.
		Fuck him.
		The end.
		No article.
		Yeah, no article.
		No, nothing.
		Just who fucking cares?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's such a deeply disturbing thing that anybody, like any news outlet, regardless of their level of credibility, would have the brazenness to be like, well, right.
		They've been wrong all the time.
		Forever.
		And here's another time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We'll give it a shot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It seems to me to be just a bummer.
		It's the same thing.
		They've reached, James O'Keefe to me has reached Jacob Wall territory.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Where it's like, I'm not even interested in what his new stunt is or whatever the thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just like, all right.
unidentified		Fuck off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here we go again.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		You guys have your fun with your bullshit.
		Just leave me out of here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've seen some deconstructions of this new video that O'Keefe's got, and it doesn't even rise to the level of like, I care to debunk this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it's if a meteorologist played a clip of Sharknado, that's what level of research and reality we're dealing with here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or, yeah, yeah, I was trying to think of another one of those movies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sharknado 2.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So David Icke is on the show.
		Okay.
		Turns out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Great.
unidentified		Awaken!
unidentified		I wish.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wish it was just that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That'd be great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This guy's so fucking dumb.
		Anyway, Alex needs to paint him as a prophet.
		Sure.
		And so he lies a little bit about his career.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, you said on my broadcast 25 years ago, there will become a time of emergence.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You said there will be a global awakening in 2016.
unidentified		Emergence!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right back in 2020, but humanity will win in the future after that.
		I know you were just streaming consciousness then, but you wrote articles saying that you did predict it.
		That's even better than my predictions, buddy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		David Icke did not go on Alex's show and predict that start by the year 25 years ago.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is gaslighting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For some context, 25 years ago in 1995, David Icke was pretty strongly promoting the protocols of the Elders of Zion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And those have come true, right?
		Oh, no.
		Oh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I bet he probably tries to pretend like, I didn't.
unidentified		I was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Even that's unfair.
		Alex, you have to just be like, eh, fuck it.
		Yeah, I did.
		I loved it.
		I don't give a shit.
		Fuck yeah.
		Protocols.
		I don't care.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, leaving David Icke's earlier career aside.
		Sure.
		Because.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, even Alex thought that was a turd in the punch bowl.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's fair.
unidentified		His current career has some problems.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, like what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, he has a solution to tyranny.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let's hear it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Before we went to break, he just joined us.
		He was talking about what stops tyranny, what the real brick wall to tyranny is.
		Please just say that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Tiny bullpen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
david icke ▲ ● ▼		What has broken every tyranny in history is self-respect.
unidentified		Self-respect.
david icke ▲ ● ▼		Having it, I'm not being told what to do by people that were simply telling me that I have to hand all my freedom to them.
david icke ▲ ● ▼		I'm not doing it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The notion that self-respect is the thing that's broken down all tyrannies is such a stupid and meaningless idea that I have no duty to even address it as a serious thing that someone's saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, when they found Saddam in that little hole, he came out and he's like, everybody had too much self-respect.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One thing that's an offshoot of his mentality that I think is worth discussing is that it's very, very fucked up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you believe that all tyranny is destroyed by self-respect, then there's never been a situation where tyrants have existed except in cases where the people they were tyrannical over just didn't respect themselves enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is a pretty nice version of victim blaming.
		If I were Alex, I would ask this follow-up question.
		Did the Jews in Nazi Germany just not respect themselves enough?
		Did the Native Americans here in our country just not respect themselves enough?
		Is the actual problem with the Chinese government currently that the Chinese people just don't respect themselves enough?
		You can easily see how this mentality is painfully childish and has no relationship to the real world.
		All this is an attempt by David Icke to paint himself as the only person with the real answer to the problems of the day, but his answer is meaningless.
		Sure, we should respect ourselves and others, but if you think that's the one thing that's required to topple tyranny, you're going to find yourself subject to tyrannical rule really quick.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A lot, too.
		Like not even a little bit of tyrannical rule?
		Like, so much tyrannical rule.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This isn't what a kid thinks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, even that, like, it seems like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So here's the thing that really is so telling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When they've got the tyrant they want, the only thing that stops tyranny is self-respect.
		RESPECTY.
		When they don't have the tyrant they want, it seems like the only way tyrants leave is in chains or in a body bag.
		It does seem strange how there's two different versions of tyrant that they fight against Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is strange how that works.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Odd.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wonder why that is the case.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think they pick sides.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to go out on a limb and say they pick sides, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't stress how much that disappointed me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, even for someone who expects so little of these people, people like David Icke, I expect nothing from him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nothing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I legitimately was listening to this with the expectation that, like, I'm not even going to cut any clips because whatever he says is just going to be stupid David Icke.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But then he said that, and I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what I expect from him?
		Awaken!
		That I got what I wanted out of that.
		I don't need that other bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's from his speech.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not from an Alex interview.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everyone phones those in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, respect yourself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then that's a brick wall to tyranny.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can't do it.
unidentified		Wow.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's how we tour.
		Tear down that brick wall, Mr. Gorbachev.
		I finally self-respect myself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there is some decent advice.
		I mean, you should respect yourself.
		Sure.
		Great.
		Regardless of tyranny or not, it's good to respect yourself.
		But this has the same tone as being like, hey, you know, if you stand up for yourself, bullies won't pick on you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a lot of times they still won't.
unidentified		No, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They'll get more people together because you're only one guy.
		And when they're bullies, they bully other people into bullying you.
		It's a really great system for bullies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, hey, that may work.
		It may work to stand up to a bully.
		And it may be the better option in terms of teaching a child a lesson or whatever.
		Maybe.
		I don't know.
		I'm not a parent.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I do know from being someone who was bullied.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Does it not work?
unidentified		Nah.
unidentified		Nah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, it's not.
		The best interpretation.
		The best interpretation of that would be like: it has to.
		A lot of people can't simply acquiesce to the tyranny.
		You know, like, if everybody respects themselves, they won't acquiesce to tyranny.
		But that's still stupid bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a naive position that doesn't take into account the complexities of how people actually live.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't take into account all the guns that the state can use against the people who respect themselves.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've never been like, ah, I know this AR-15 is scary, but I've got so much respect for myself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is the factor.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this clip is stupid.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You pioneered exposing this, but every ancient culture recognized it.
		The Bible said there's an alien force we're in on the planet.
		It wants to destroy us, take us over, use us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Where?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's not even debated now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All the big globalists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Where?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Is it not debated?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Who?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't know anybody that really says they're an atheist anymore.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They all just aren't part of something bigger, but yeah, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not even debated anymore that demons are running things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, obviously, it's aliens from outer space who the Bible says it in that book that the Bible says aliens are real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I guess if you listen to Alex Jones and take him seriously, you might get the idea that it's not debated anymore.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, he doesn't debate it.
unidentified		Extraterrestrial extra-dimensional demons are running the Democratic Party.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, we don't have debates on it anymore, so it's obviously not being debated.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's just like everyone has admitted it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		No, don't.
		Elon Musk came out and he was like, look, aliens have been controlling human society.
		It's a simulation.
		Anyways, we're going to kill seven billion.
		Right.
		Moving on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Didn't you see The Rock?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not the wrestler, the one in the movie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The big stone slab in Georgia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I thought you were talking about Sean Connery.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		And two-time Oscar Award nominee, Ed Harris.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't tell you anything about vampires.
		Sure.
		We have no updates on vampires.
		Although, there is another sort of character of the sci-fi realm.
		David Ike.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wish you warned us of the hippogriff.
		But no, it is not that.
		It is cyborgs.
david icke ▲ ● ▼		Why do they want to make us cyborgs?
		Well, here's something.
		Because that's what they are.
unidentified		Assimilating humanity into themselves.
david icke ▲ ● ▼		We are talking about an artificial intelligence that's actually behind this.
david icke ▲ ● ▼		What we call artificial intelligence is much deeper than that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Is that why they come off so inauthentic?
		You can instantly see them?
		Like, they don't look real.
		They're something off.
david icke ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is the point, Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're cyborgs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's my favorite rhetorical trick.
		I do love the raise a question.
		That's a Steve Pachonik.
		Like, do you know who had the first case of COVID and cured it?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Me!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, that's that fail.
		Oh, do you know what I mean?
		I know the guy very well.
		Yeah, exactly.
		Because his name is me.
		Do you know why they want to turn us into cyborgs?
		Why is that?
		Because they are cyborgs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		David Icke just got fucking high and watched an episode that had the borg in it from the next generation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Tom Hardy's finest work.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
		It's just painful.
		It's just painful.
		Now, I think this is really interesting because he's talking about these cyborgs.
		They're what he calls the psychopaths.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Naturally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And David Icke makes a clarification here that I thought was going to go the exact opposite direction that it does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
david icke ▲ ● ▼		I refer to these people as psychopaths.
		And what is a psychopath?
		A psychopath has no empathy.
unidentified		Me.
david icke ▲ ● ▼		Has no remorse, has no compassion.
		And what am I describing?
		I'm describing a computer.
		A computer has no empathy.
		It has no compassion.
		It has no remorse.
		It just processes information.
		This is what these people are.
		And when I look at Bill Gates, I see no human energy.
		I see no human life.
		I see no human sparkle in his eyes.
		I see a cyborg.
		And what I would say, like an AI, but what I would say is very important to emphasize, is when I use terms like, you know, they're a form of AI and that they're a form of non-human kind of technology.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, I'm going to pause right there because this is the beginning of the clarification.
		Sure.
		And I thought I would bet anything I own that he's going to say I'm speaking metaphorically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, absolutely not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not for once in my, not while listening to that, not once did I think he was not being 100% literal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I for sure thought he was like, I'm speaking with the terms that are meant to convey.
		I'm not talking about a literal cyborg.
		It turns out.
david icke ▲ ● ▼		I'm not talking about technology that we know about.
		I'm not talking about AI that we know about.
		It's far, far more.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's obviously an interdimensional imprint, a transmission that they're dialed into.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
		So obviously, the clarification isn't that I'm speaking metaphorically.
		It's that it's future technology.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's futurama.
		It's like, I think his tax plan goes too far.
		I think his tax plan doesn't go too far enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's an interesting clarification because what he's saying is, all right, look, just to be clear, I'm not talking about anything anybody knows exists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course not.
		I'm talking about magic.
		And just to be clear, that AI bullshit that you've read about, oh, I read Isaac Asimov.
		Nah, this is like Isaac.
		Oh, shit, it is like Isaac Asimov.
		Never mind.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To be clear, if you are somebody who's, let's say, an engineer, maybe you're somebody who knows a lot about AI and you think that I'm talking shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ah, counterpoint.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Surprise.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Super future magic technology.
unidentified		I'm talking about something that no one knows exists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can't debunk me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Try and fight me.
		Try and fight me.
		You don't even know about it.
		It doesn't even know about you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can't debate me because I'm making it up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think we should be run by AI.
		Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I think machine learning, the way that machine learning has tackled Go and turned it into something that is inconceivable and that it just wins all the time against the top Go players in the world, I figure you feed all of human history into an AI and machine learn it, and it's going to be like, hey, the only time good things happen is when people cooperate with each other.
		So I don't think it's going to make the pull the trigger kill all humans thing.
		I think it's going to be like, we can't allow them to govern themselves.
		They're stupid.
		We just, we'll take care of it.
		And you guys will all be happy.
		That's my guess.
		That's my theory.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure I agree with you 100%.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I would say that this is going to make it much tougher for me to support you in your bid for despotic rules.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Supreme Leader.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Despite the ruler.
		Yeah, yeah.
		But you have some interesting ideas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I only get my plan for despotic ruler is I get three years to fix anything and then everybody gets to kill me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, but that's the rule of despotic rulers.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But apparently during that three years, you're going to let machines rule everything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course, because you guys can't handle it.
		Look at the world right now.
		I can't leave the world in your hands.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This isn't three years of you, then you die.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's three years of youth where you put in a rulership of robots and then you die.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then eternity ruled by robots.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's how I tricked you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't support this dictatorship.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It has flaws.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm even being honest about lying to you, Dan.
		It's amazing.
		I'm the best Supreme Leader you've ever had.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is not good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's an inherent dishonesty that I cannot get behind.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm being honest about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, the problem with robots is they lack empathy.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They don't have empathy.
		All right.
		As we learn in this clip where Alex is talking about how his wife watched some videos of David Icke's rally and the police hitting people with stuff.
		Sure.
		We learned that maybe not all humans have empathy either.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		See, that's a normal human behavior.
		Because she understands they're coming for her.
		They're coming for our daughter.
		They're coming for us.
		And then the empathy these psychos don't have is a group defense for all of us that we see something happening to somebody else.
		We understand that can happen to us.
		But these psychos wear it as a badge of honor.
		And these sociopaths that they don't have that.
		And I know a lot of that's genetic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Uh-oh, what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Empathy is apparently genetic.
unidentified		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He says stuff like that a lot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And every single time, it's bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Saying that once is bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Saying it a bunch of times to the point where it's like really clear that this is a piece of your belief system.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Really fucked up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I am 100% against eugenics.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's evil.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a noted eugenics disliker.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I hate eugenics.
		Now, admittedly, there are genetic flaws that we should get rid of in the human population.
		You know, that's not eugenics.
		That's just gardening, Dan.
		What do you garden?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And there are things that are genetic that have to do with empathy and innate character.
		Sure.
		Gross.
		So David Icke has a complaint about the alternative media.
		And this is a complaint that honestly, you know, you could hear this as him calling out Alex.
		It's not meant to be, but it definitely could be.
		He's saying that he's a guy who tells people not to wear masks, and so he doesn't wear a mask.
		Sure.
		If they want to fine him, fine.
		He's not going to pay it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Put your money where your maskless mouth is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, conversely, Alex sells masks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I feel like David Icke could be like, hey, why do you stop fucking trying to make money off the lockdown?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You got to make money.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
david icke ▲ ● ▼		We should not just say, oh, this is the way.
		We should show the way by not doing it.
		So I won't do any of the things.
		When I say to people, you know, just don't acquiesce with this.
unidentified		I'm not acquiescing.
david icke ▲ ● ▼		And I won't.
		I absolutely won't.
		And, you know, you see people in the alternative media who say, oh, this is terrible.
		That's terrible.
		And then they're going to a shop and a mask on.
		I mean, you know, where were we going with this?
unidentified		What?
		What are you doing?
		You know, going into a shop with a mask on behind us in this power of no.
david icke ▲ ● ▼		Eventually, although the pioneers might have consequences.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Long pause.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		David Skype just broke up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Rats.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
		It's never going to end.
		It's just never going to end.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Never.
		The power of no is the way David Icke is trying to.
		I'm going to guess it's on shirts, maybe with the name of the book in the future.
		But it's the idea of like, no, I won't wear a mask.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Petulance.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The power of petulance.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The power of oppositional defiance to annoy everyone around you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't think Eckhart Tolli would have sold as many books if he was just like, it's just one letter off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He missed a real opportunity for a follow-up book.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So David Icke comes back and they wrap up their interview and who cares?
		I mean, wow, what an impressively dumb interview, even by David Icke, Alex Jones.
		By their standards, it's never going to be good.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it was impressively bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex comes back from break and he's real excited about his show.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You talk about a star-studded transmission.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		David Icke, Paul Joseph Watson, had a project Veritas, James O'Keefe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now you know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right here, floating around in the InfoWars ocean.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's an angry ocean.
unidentified		It's just fame.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Twice.
		Afraid to pay the price.
		I didn't listen to advice because I had my policy of truth, which I love so much.
		I used to lie all the time about little petties that nothing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is happening?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Your old friend likes to wife about how they look or how dinner is.
unidentified		But instead, just get out of the open.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they can tell you what's wrong with you.
		We need to get a thicker skin, ladies and gentlemen.
		That's the answer to civilization and society.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The answer to civilization and society is being like, this dinner sucks, lady.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The answer to civilization is being unnecessarily rude to the people in your life.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Cruel as possible.
		Oh, does this dress make me look good?
		No, fatty.
		And then they can point out what's wrong with you.
		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I bet, you know what?
		I bet anything.
		I've listened to him a lot.
		Alex takes criticism well.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he loves it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He would love it if everyone was like, hey, your next two.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, I think a great conversation.
unidentified		Hey, Alex, you look stupid bald.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why'd you shave your head, you dumb-dum?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't imagine that it would be like what he's suggesting is something that he would be interested in engaging with.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		People just being incredibly rude to the point of just pointing out all of your flaws.
		Like, God damn.
		Just so stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't you remember the golden rule?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Treat others the way that you would kill them if they treated you.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So here's some hard truths for you, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You lie about things all the time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And your star-studded show is all losers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, when you talk about a star-studded show, you are talking about any show other than this one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Oh, God.
		Just Paul Joseph Watson, someone who is a real loser.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		James O'Keefe.
unidentified		Oof.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Someone who is an embarrassing loser.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		David Ike, someone who you yourself, Alex, think sucks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		God, what an embarrassment.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is no longer a punch-filled bowl, and it's just shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Paul Joseph Watson comes in, and he comes out swinging.
paul joseph watson ▲ ● ▼		I would lay the foundation, Alex, by citing a survey, which again has received basically no mainstream media attention, despite the fact that it's been out now for a good couple of months.
		We're basically the only outlet to report on this from a media perspective.
		The headline was, Survey, Americans think coronavirus has killed 30 million people in the U.S. 220 times, 225 times higher than the actual figure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, if you want to know why many media outlets have not reported on this survey, but InfoWars has, it's because the reports reflect misleading information.
		This was a report that was released by a consulting firm called Kext CNC.
		And if Paul was curious at all about this, he could find write-ups about why the methodology here was flawed.
		The biggest error that they made was that they used the mean of responses to determine the average as opposed to the median, which would be the appropriate way to reflect data.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When you take something like the data this survey is meant to report and you use the mean average to determine the results, your figure is going to be heavily affected by outliers in the data.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whereas if you use the median average, your number will far more accurately reflect the average that the data set represents.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think 10 billion people have died.
		Dude, you're really going to screw up this study.
		We're going by the mean.
		You can't be doing 10 billion.
		Right.
		You want to try 1 billion?
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right, we'll do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For instance, in this case, Full Fact looked at the underlying data for the Kext CNC reports, claimed that people in Great Britain believed that 7% of the population had died from COVID-19.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Damn.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the United States, the number that they had was 9%.
		So what they found was that over 50% of respondents answered 1% or lower, but the data was skewed by people who answered with numbers in the range of 20% or higher.
		Like, there was a non-unsignificant number of people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There were people saying a billion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, in Great Britain.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In relative speaking.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean by saying a billion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There were people who answered 50% or higher.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're just fucking with you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everyone I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		One out of every two people I know has obviously died.
unidentified		Probably.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there's a decent chance that some of these people were fucking around or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But when you use the mean to determine the average, people fucking around overliers.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Outliers?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's nonsense.
		Full fact estimates, based on the available data from Kext, that the median average of responses would be somewhere close to 1%, which is still higher than the mortality seen in Britain, but it's substantially lower than the 7% that this report claimed, which was then parroted by some dodgy media outlets.
		The reason that this report was ignored by legitimate outlets isn't because they were afraid of it or because there's a cover-up.
		It's because the methodology was flawed and it didn't meet their editorial standards.
		People like Paul and Alex have no such standards, and their audience doesn't check into anything.
		So they went ahead and reported it as if there were no problems with this survey.
		And that's what's going on here.
		They're reporting bad things and then complaining that no one else is reporting it as proof of some kind of cover-up of their bad information.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the only spidey sense I would believe from any of these people would just be like suddenly all this, they turn and look up into the sky and they're like, somebody did bad work.
		Where is it?
		I have to find it.
		We can use it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if it helps.
unidentified		Somewhere in the world, there's some bad work.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex gets into a mood, and this got me pretty excited.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Band on video, only place you'll get that information to be able to share it.
		Or you can roll over the Shikoms and the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds and let him win.
		I don't think you want to.
		No, I think we're going to win together, aren't we?
		I can smell it.
		I can taste it.
		I can feel it.
		Then we should start the next segment with that.
		You belong in the city.
		Because that's what it really comes down to.
		It's our country.
		It's our world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't come back in from the break.
unidentified		I want to sing along and play the song.
unidentified		I'll wanna give you a bunch of people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want to give a speech.
		He doesn't.
		He comes back from that break with James O'Keefe, and legitimately, I couldn't care at all about their ever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we don't have any clips of that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I felt really betrayed by Alex whenever he's like, because as I was listening.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because he didn't play the song.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But as I was listening to that, when he's like, I can see it, I can feel it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can taste it.
unidentified		I'm like, oh, you're thinking about you belong to the city.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're thinking about that song.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course he is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're getting your tongue.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a good song.
		He's pumping himself up.
		I can't wait to come and sing it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then when he didn't, I was like, well, you had your chance.
		I'm out.
		And that's the end of the third hour anyway.
		So like the fourth hour, you know, some other host isn't taking over.
		Yeah, what a disaster.
		Also, David Rockefeller's Dead.
		The Rothschilds Aren't in Charge of the World.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sounds wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So go fuck yourself.
		What a trash episode.
		And I want to say this very clearly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That tech story didn't come up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, am I surprised by that, Dan?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Am I surprised?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you are somebody whose only outlet for information is listening to Alex's show, if you get your news from there, you could be forgiven for not knowing that that story broke.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is not mentioned.
		There's no deflection from it that I was able to hear in this time.
		There's not even like a, goddamn New York Times fake news.
		Nothing.
		Just nothing.
		Just pretend it didn't happen, doesn't exist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Something that I feel like more people should talk about, and I've noticed this pretty regularly, is whenever it's something really bad.
		You know how every news outlet, like when the New York Times put out that story, in minutes, CNN's got it on there.
		New York Times just released, in minutes, the Guardian's got live coverage of, oh, oh, we read this and read this and read this.
		And in at least a couple hours, Fox News has taken their time, has really developed a good spin on it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Tom says, fake news.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		They are absolutely not involved in that breaking kind of news story.
		It's got to be massaged, and that takes time.
		And they're professionals.
		They're really good at it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, and then with someone like Alex, it seems like this isn't even a story that he's interested in.
		And instead, he's hyping up this tablet, op-ed, and James O'Keefe's attempt to change the narrative to being about, oh, Ilhan Omar and the Somalis are up to something.
		Yeah.
		So I think that that speaks to this being a very damaging, dangerous story.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because otherwise, it seems like it would be much easier to spin.
		And I think Alex might be of the mind.
		Because it's inconceivable that he's unaware of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, no, no, absolutely not.
		At the very least, here's what he's doing.
		I, too, have lost a lot of money.
		I have paid more taxes than Trump.
		I need to find his lawyers.
		Like, at the very least, that's his best.
		One of us is that prison.
		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the other's Rudy Giuliani.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's great.
		He's great.
		He's going to get you a solid tax refund.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just such a simple story.
		Like, it's so easy to be like, hey, this guy's rich.
		He didn't pay as much taxes than you.
		Is that fair?
		Come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's also a story that would be really easy for Alex to spin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I think that his spin would also ultimately alienate his audience who's super put upon by the Federal Reserve and thinks taxation is theft.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like, okay, yeah, taxation is theft.
		Great.
		So we should be cool with this super billionaire Playboy type not paying taxes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Meanwhile, you get screwed if you don't pay your taxes over how many people.
		And there's an astonishing number who are like, fuck yeah, Trump.
		Way to get your money away from the government.
		Like, they're so happy that he owns that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How could you not expect that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		With like, you know, I mean, even in the debates in 2016, he talked about buying politicians and stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I buy politicians.
		I don't pay taxes.
		What am I?
		Stupid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's corrupt.
		I know, because I paid them all.
		Yeah, all right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If people applauded that as opposed to being like, oh, you're part of the same problem that I'm supposed to be mad at, you know, there wasn't going to be a situation where it would be like, oh, this is bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, of course not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it is, I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm conflicted on whether I say that this is surprising or unsurprising that there's like absolutely no mention of it in these three hours of unsurprising.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Unsurprising to me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are you going to say about it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he cheated the United States out of money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's conspicuous, though, in its absence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He lost because one reason is you have to then say he lost a billion dollars.
		And if it weren't for a TV show that he should never have been a part of, because it was entirely built around his image, which we know now beyond a conceivable reasonable doubt, is fake as shit.
		He still lost money.
		After he got all that more money, he was like, now I can really lose a lot of money.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that entire thing, too, with the Times is developing.
		There are other reports yet to come out, even as we're recording this.
		The scale of the specifics of what are in those documents that they're covering is we don't know the scope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, what we have already proves that he's violating the emoluments clause from the beginning.
		I am blown away.
		Just blown away that our system exists in such a way that we can find out 100% the president was in violation of the Constitution from day fucking one.
		And they're still like, well, we have to deal with this three Supreme Court justices forever.
		Of course.
		I mean, sure, he broke the entire Constitution.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But we just got to deal with those three Supreme Court justices forever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is strange.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just, we can't do.
		No, it's no take back seas, Dan.
		We can't do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is strange.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think we need to deal with that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's probably something to deal with.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The other thing that I think is really funny is that the picture that's painted by this Times article is very similar to the one that Alex painted in 2015.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, that one is very similar, isn't it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Where Alex said that he's not really rich and it's all a facade.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It does kind of seem like he kind of knew about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I bet Stone probably knew about that too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, we'll be back, I guess, maybe for a debate spectacular.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, I hope not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		On Friday.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm so glad we're recording now so we have no reason to watch the debates.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're recording this during the debate.
		Thank God.
		But hey, before we get out of here, let's take some voicemail.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that'd be great.
toronto in georgia ▲ ● ▼		Hey, chat guys.
		My name is Toronto, and I'm from Georgia.
		And I, about two weeks ago, started working a job at a call center, which does political surveys.
		And I just thought I'd tell you, I get a couple of people who actually answer the phone and take the survey that sounds a lot like Alex Jones' listeners.
		So I want your opinion on a couple of people I've gotten.
		The first whack caller I got was an old guy who was probably kind of drunk, who I had to hang up on because he was saying slurs.
		The techie guy I got was a dude who answered the call by saying Trump 2020, took the survey, answered as much as you'd think, gave his opinion on everything, and at the end of the call told me not to trust anything I heard from either side as long as I was in college.
		And the third guy was the most interesting.
		He told me he had all night to take a survey, then proceeded to refuse to answer any of the questions and only would answer undecided or refuse.
		And then when I asked what his political party was, he told me socialist druid.
		And all three of them, I was just like, if I mention Alex right now, what kind of response am I going to get?
		And I also wanted to know, socialist druid.
		Term you're familiar with?
unidentified		That seems something very Alex-y.
toronto in georgia ▲ ● ▼		I love the show.
		It's great.
		Do a great job, guys.
		Dan, tell Celime, she's perfect.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll pass that along to Celine, and she will have a big head.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She's going to have a big head from that one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be so annoying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to have to tell you, unfortunately, so as socialist druids would be considered witches by Alex.
		So I don't think we're going to be there.
		Nothing there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nothing that involves socialists other than National Socialists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure, is going to be something Alex is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Very bad.
		Very bad.
		Unless it's National Socialism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Those people are, those sound like not fun calls to take.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you ever do telemarketing?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, but I had to do cold calling whenever I first started out in the hearing aid business.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But those would probably be like the Glen Garry leads, right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A little bit, but they were decidedly not Glen Garry leads.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, I was still competing to get the Glen Garry leads.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So these were even, these were like brutal phone calls.
		Yeah.
		It's like me calling somebody and being like, hey, how you doing?
		You want to spend three grand on something?
unidentified		Come on in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You got your problems?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
		I spent a little bit of time doing telemarketing.
		And I worked at two telemarketing companies in Missouri, and one was a nightmare.
		I had to sell stamp machines.
unidentified		Ooh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they were supposed to be, everybody you're calling is a small business owner.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And like a stamp machine is a really smart thing if you have a need for it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But if you don't, nobody wants to talk to you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And so like I would be trying to explain to people what a stamp machine was because this is before like stamps.com existed and everything.
		And so I'm like, all right, so it's a machine.
unidentified		You plug it into your phone jack and you could download postage into it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they're like, I have no idea what you're talking about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sir, I don't understand you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just finished calling into InfoWars.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that was tough.
		And I made a sale my first day.
		And like, that was something that was crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that was the last sale you ever made.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I almost made another one, but then I torpedoed it myself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because the person on the line I could tell was not really understanding what was going on, but was really into it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You felt like it was immoral to sell them something.
		You were like, you don't understand this, so I can't, in good conscience, sell this.
		You're a bad salesman, dude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're a bad salesman.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so I screwed myself over on another commission there, and I didn't last too long there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was a terrible, not a surprise.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Terrible job.
		And then I worked at another call center that was doing like non-sales survey kind of calls.
		And I was calling for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.
		And they always tell you that all these people are registered Democrats.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		And you just call people like, hey, why don't you go fuck yourself and like Bush?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		All right.
		Sorry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Guys not voting for Carrie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was a brutal time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have nothing but empathy for people who work in those sites.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So awful, so much abuse goes your way and yeah tough, tough times.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Telemarketing sales is the worst, the worst.
unidentified		Hey tat guys, this is Jordan from Montreal.
		Bienvenue DE Montreal, Canada.
		Great name, by the way.
		There Jordan, I'm just calling to say you guys are awesome And I know I try to be bipartisan.
		You both make some very good points.
		But on this karaoke the no karaoke issue, I have to be on Team Jordan here.
		And by the way, as a plant daddy, you've certainly heard the studies that plants grow better when you sing to them, right?
		Before I called to delete this message, I looked it up on Google, and the first link did not disagree with me.
		So in honor of your show being about Alex Jones and his research methods, I figured that was about as far in as I had to look.
		So, I mean, that's it.
		Just, you know, sing.
		Sing to those plants, Dan.
		Come on.
		They'll grow better if you do.
		Anyway, you guys are awesome.
		Keep on doing what you're doing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thanks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sing!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would sooner sing to these plants than I would do karaoke.
unidentified		I'll do that.
unidentified		Sing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, because here's why.
		You belong to...
		Look, singing to plants is just the same as talking to plants.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the reason that that helps is because CO2 you give off whenever you speak.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we're going to do science now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're going to do science.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We record a podcast around the plants.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And we record a podcast that believes in the power of song, dude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We might as well be singing for like two hours in front of these plants.
		It's fine.
		They don't need song.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't belong in the city.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I belong in the country.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
unidentified		What's up, Tat guys?
		This is Craig from the Reds.
		I just had a question.
		You guys were talking about hydrogen peroxide, which is a drug scam, by the way.
		And you're talking about huffing it, I think.
		But it sounded like Dan kept on saying hoofing.
		I was wondering if that's an accent thing or he was using a different word or a different slang that I don't know.
		Also, I did get my vitamin D levels checked, and Alex just said they're the lowest he'd ever seen and congratulated me.
		I thought that was weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You should get a new doctor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was talking about putting hydrogen peroxide on the foot of a mule and then letting it kick you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm talking about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what you do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what Dr. Mercolo was suggesting people do.
		No, I don't know.
		I guess I've never really known what the term is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Honestly, I only used it the way you did because I thought it was some sort of slang from Missouri.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's huffing.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, you huff paint, you huff paint thinner, that kind of thing.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I thought you had some sort of Missouri slang and you were just pronouncing that way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So I was like, yeah, I went in Rome.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll go along with it.
		Maybe it is.
		I don't know.
		I've always called it like hoofing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Have you only read it before?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Have you never huffed anything?
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Never huffed gasoline?
unidentified		Huh?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's an interesting question.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would be interested.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When you were at the car wash, you huffed something.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, I probably was exposed to some fumes.
unidentified		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I didn't take any drugs intentionally at the car wash when I worked there for that short period of time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, I think I've done some inhalants at some point in my life.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You've done some whippets?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		Yeah.
		Some like amyl nitrate.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		But like way back.
		I mean, there was a period of time where it was like any.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A couple years ago?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Much longer back than that.
		Oh, okay.
		But no, I remember I had a friend who got into ether a little bit.
		And that seemed scary.
		That seemed really scary.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's such an intimidating thing.
		I got a friend who got into ether, and you're like, okay, shake of hands.
		Good night.
		I'm going to get out of here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, no, I don't know.
unidentified		Hoof, hoof.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who cares?
aaron in missouri ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yo, Tat guys, what's up?
		It's Aaron from Missouri calling in.
		Just wanted to say I'm a huge fan of your show.
		I've been listening for about a year and a half now.
		After I started searching out some sources on Alex Jones' insanity, while I was working for a guy doing tile out in Colorado who loved Alex Jones, thought he was a genius.
		And because of that, I might have some insight on the recent technical difficulties.
		So according to him, Alex has been looking pretty heavily for some interns to come in, you know, younger people in college and just out of college, to come in and, you know, cut their teeth on the production floor of InfoWars.
		He, of course, suggested that I do this, and he said, I think your values are really in line with Alex Jones.
		And this is despite me arguing with him just about every chance I could get about old AJ.
		So, yeah, that might have something to do with the technical difficulties.
		I think he's got a bunch of low or unpaid team labor going on over there.
		So just a thought.
		Also, shout out to my buddy Dylan.
		I love you.
		Thanks for being my best bud and sharing a love of knowledge fight.
		All right.
		Thanks, Dan.
		Thanks, Jordan.
		Bye.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That checks out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		I would have, like, that was kind of what I thought was going on.
		Yeah.
		There's no way somebody who's been in the business for 10 years is going to be like, well, InfoWars is where I'm going to finally retire.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And no way that someone with a lot of experience would be like, well, Skype just fucks up sometimes.
		I'm a professional.
		And what are you going to do?
unidentified		Somebody in the booth looking at Alex just being like, oh, just shrugging.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I guess we can't really take that as gospel since it's just someone calling in and shorting it, but it would make sense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I vibe with that being true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what else, though, checks out?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A guy who is contracting, laying tile, telling you about Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That does check out.
		In my history, that checks out.
		Very clear.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A guy who runs a car wash telling you about Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, all of these.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm a general contractor with a crew of 15-year-olds.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're going to say some Alex Jones shit.
unidentified		Probably.
		Oh, yeah.
		Hey, guys.
		This is Gator from Oklahoma City.
		And I love your show.
		I love you, Dan and Jordan.
		I've been trying to introduce some of my comrades to the show to really investigate the right-wing grift.
		They don't really give a fuck, though, which is a shame.
		But I mostly called because I am going to shamelessly plug.
		So in Oklahoma City, there's an organization called the Oklahoma Street Medics, of which I am in charge.
		And we do protest support.
		And Jordan seemed to give a lot of support for the protest.
		And so please plug us.
		Or don't.
		I'll be sad if you don't.
		But whatever.
		Anyway, that's Oklahoma Street Medics.
		Find us on Facebook and all that.
		Thanks so much, you guys.
		I love the show.
		Keep doing the good work.
		Okay, bye.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That person's name was Gator.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you know it could be Ruth Gator Binsberg?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, get out of here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it Ruth Gator?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It could be Ruth Gator Binsburg.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God damn it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I knew she was going to call in.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, in terms of this stuff, it's really always very difficult for me because with specific giving specifics on where people should donate always rings false with me because there's a lot of things that deserve attention far more than I would ever be able to enumerate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And also there's so many things that are localized that are very difficult to find.
		And we have people who are in foreign countries and all around the country who listen to our show.
		And the priorities for everybody in their own communities and in their areas is very difficult for me to think I have any real understanding of.
		So whenever we say donate to local charity in your area, the reason that I don't get more specific about it is because for you, the person listening, it might be something that I could have no idea about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I don't want to take our audience and monetize it towards even a good cause necessarily.
unidentified		Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like if I believe in, let's say, the Chicago food dispensary or depository, like that's something that I will donate to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't want all of our listeners to donate to them at the expense of things in your area.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that said, I'm also not averse to people like Gator calling in and promoting something that's important to them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a balance, and it's something that's incredibly difficult to know what to do with it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure.
		I try and focus on, like, personally, my two things are, like, especially right now, food and housing.
		So I try and look out organizations in Chicago and really research the shit because a lot of them, not a lot of them, but there's some places that you can give money to that are fucking bullshit.
		So do some research on that.
		But as far as protests and stuff go, medics are huge.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, definitely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Medics are huge.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I would absolutely strongly recommend people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Medics and citizen journalist types are very important to support as best you can.
		100%.
		And the only reason that I don't get too specific about stuff is because I honestly also think that part of being involved and engaged is the process of finding a thing and being able to tell whether it's legit or not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 100%.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very difficult, but also it's part of engagement.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And for me to spoon feed that to you would be kind of disrespectful on my part because then you're just taking my word for what lines up with your priorities and your position.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, don't just give money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like engage with what you're giving money to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's the best way to be a part of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think that that's the best way for it to be sincere, to be gratifying, and for you to be comfortable knowing that what you're doing is making a difference in the way that you want it to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that balancing the responsibility of I know a lot of people are listening and I can hopefully encourage them to donate to charitable causes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We want you to do good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And also knowing that I could steer people towards something irresponsibly.
		Sure.
		It's a hard line to walk.
		And the way that I think I can be best on the right side of it is just to say, look into stuff and donate to people in need in your area.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, I can give you all of my pet charities and causes and all that stuff, but you don't have my dog don't get my pet charities and causes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Get your own pet charities and causes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a hard line to know exactly where it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And maybe we could do a little better.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you can give, give.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I will also say that, like I think I already have, if people want to call in and plug something in particular, I am more than fine with that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not Kmart, though.
unidentified		Not Kmart.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not Kmart.
		If Kmart tricked us.
		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Uh-oh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Jordan, we'll be back on Friday, but until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We do have a website.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's KnowledgeFight.com.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We are on Twitter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That and all the judges score fighting I go to bed, Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We are downloading.
		If you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area.
		And if you're in Oklahoma City, you know where to go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		You can also call in.
		I don't cite the number enough.
		So if you want to call in and leave a message, you can.
		It's at 773-TATGuys.
		That is the number.
unidentified		Indeed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll be back, Jordan.
		But until then, I'm Neo.
		I'm Leo.
		I'm DZX Clark.
		I'm Daryl Rundis.
		I'm Humanity.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wake up.
		Andy in Kansas.
		You're on the air.
		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified		I'm a huge fan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.

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